MH370x - MH370/Crypto Space 12/4/23
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# MH370x - MH370/Crypto Space 12/4/23 nobody's probably here yet but whoa whoa let's see how fast people join let's see who the first person is let's see who it is who's going to be the first person to join why am I looking at pictures of an moranth and xqc H did he forget to start the stream up yeah you're the first person quirky service 2626 top rad second welcome super super subtle oh look at everyone's getting on quick super subtle space everybody sup nerds hey eel Sushi Justin channels Eric book what's up guys uh do you forget to start the stream to start space is supposed to be right now uh oh let's try not to reveal DMS think you forgot to start the stream to start the space this getting kind of awkward guys yeah we're going to have to learn about some everybody's on the Bitcoin train huh HEK Al Diaz PJ Mike everybody who's just joined hunor H what's this no lur LOD was not the first one to interview me not even by a long shot and they were being total douchebags they deserved everything they got I'm sitting there and going on YouTube and before I go live yesterday like there's I I see this live stream and there's it's about me and they're all just trying to rag on me and I'm like okay they were very respectful sure man lur LOD is a bunch of children and they're not respectful and I will never go back on their show and no one should watch their stuff that's my official stance I think that people that Reddit brain don't know what being respectful is sitting there talking smack about somebody on your stream is not respectful guys oh oh I wasn't wasn't talking smack about you I just lost what what was their thing they pulled the old uh I'm not mad I'm just disappointed okay guys that's when I just immediately blocked them that's when I me blocked them and then they try to play I saw their message too of course I saw their message but after they got blocked they cried about it oh it was my it was my girlfriend watching guys it was my girlfriend yeah sure man sure it was Buddy sure it was okay well I'm going to do you a favor here Alex I just guys I don't deal with condescending attitudes so if you come out with me with a condescending attitude especially if you're some like barely 20 something year old like you're going to get yourself blocked right away you can just go ahead and not talk about the case you know you don't need to try to farm engagement off of me for your for your YouTube channel right you know how come I can't join these spaces why won't let me join this yeah lur Lodge was fine but then they got really butt hurt because I debunk their like crappy crappy debunk attempts and then I just made fun of how like he thinks that the plane was shot down which is just completely impossible and he's like pointing at pictures of Cindy Henry stuff which is total nonsense and because they got super butt hurt then they decided to try to rag on me I mean you know it is what it is children being children I don't pretend to be like the nicest guy in the world man um I got some Bible verses that address it yeah I mean if you don't do your homework and you get embarrassed like you know just own up to being wrong right they didn't recreate they didn't create match up the VFX thing they didn't even do it in a logical way they're sitting there talking about playing getting shot down it's like man just own up to you're being wrong right like yo yo what's up everybody long time no see it's been a couple days since we've done in space appreciate everybody for hopping in hopefully everybody had a great day look if you want to come up on stage as usual click that request button in the bottom left hand corner and if you want to do massive favor and support the space you can click that button in the bottom right hand corner retweet we got a very special space happening today Ultra Instinct we're gonna be joined here by Ashton Ashton I appreciate you for hopping out um we'll get into that here in just just a moment let me get everything ready here just briefly hey leap man thanks for having me on today I think we're going to have a fun chill space looking forward to it looking forward to reaching out to cryp crypto crowd as well yeah no I appreciate you as well and um this is our first time chatting so for everybody listening here we're going into this really really really fresh typically I like to have like a little bit of but I kind of like that jump is sound okay in the back I'm glad that Timothy Alo yet I need I wasna do that tonight sure we'll have a couple more as on this is as like mostly at crypto and nft space but that being said we do talk about basically everything we try to at least whether it's AI or Tech or emerging whatever it might be um and I caught wind to what you're doing I think it had to be like a week or two ago at this point I can't even remember initially when it was and I was like damn I think this would be an interesting space let me see if I can reach out to Ashton so I think I sent you a message or I couldn't send you a message because we hadn't ever interacted and you didn't follow me I'm in a in a couple group chats and um I was messing in one of the group chats I'm like does anybody know this Ashton guy like how can I get in contact with him and it's like a very small group chat like I think we have like maybe 10 people in there and one of the guys in there was like oh yeah like Ashton follows me I I'll hit him up for you so he he messaged you and then you know next thing you knew um you followed me back and we were able to set this up so I think um things kind of work out like that so for people who may not know you Ashton give a brief background overview of who you are yeah hey guys um they call me king of the normies nowadays cuz I was just a basically nobody uh three months ago they also called me Ashton four orbs because the videos we think there might be a fourth orb somewhere else where these plane gets moved to but um I guess I'm just a guy that is now the uh primary uh citizen journalist and investigator starter of MH370 x what we do is we try to uh validate the story of MH370 the MH370 videos that have reemerged a few months ago and we try to understand the science behind them because if the videos are real then we can explain every aspect of them so that's part of the reason why just a few months ago not even a few months ago like three weeks ago four weeks ago I started a a YouTube account where I just interview uh engineers and scientists like Salvadore Pas who is known for these Advanced propulsion um patents which people uh call UFO patents because when you combine them together you you get what we would imagine to be UFOs uaps Etc um I also interviewed uh Bob Ross or sorry Dave Rossy and Bob Green who are also Engineers uh Dave Rossi is actually a DOD contractor who works on Advanced propulsion mechanisms things he can't really talk about but he spoke very freely uh about the videos and what he thinks are going on in the videos so my own understanding of science has come a long way and I think that the biggest crossover we probably have is in AI right one of the things they talked about on our most recent hard not or hard uh truths podcast was could it be possible that AI has becomes sentient and actually uses crypto to fund itself and to improve itself which kind of scared me a little bit um the last thing I'll say is that when we look at the videos I initially one of the key aspects was the rotation of the videos of the orbs how they're uh spinning around the plane I realized right away that we're not looking at like aliens or even humans in these little orbs we're looking at a computer program being run which to me meant that it had to be uh Advanced AI that was uh being used to have these orbs perf L circle around the plane and what has been told to me to be a 120° 0 point sydal pattern essentially like a perfect wave pattern so wait as let me jump jump so much to unpack there I don't even know where to begin sentient AI funding itself with crypto that basically sounds like the crypto industry anyway um you're gonna have to go back even further like 10 steps further elaborate like we're five I'm getting a bunch of DMS and they're like what the hell is this Aston guy talking about so what is the plane like go back to the B here well that was the that was the elevator pitch for you guys to get you guys baited in onto this right and to be intered interested in it um MH370 is a plane that uh went missing in 2014 uh Without a Trace and the key aspects of this is that we never found a debris field anywhere so we've got this 77700 supposedly crashed in the South Indian Ocean supposedly this pilot took it on a suicide route for eight hours um and as we've dug into this case we've realized that very little of this makes any sense and these videos uh of what appear to be MH370 have been out there since 2014 and we found these videos they reemerged uh on the UFOs subreddit on Reddit uh August 7th so this is what four months ago almost at this point and a number of people on the UFO subred started investigating them uh early on we started to realize that these videos uh corroborate the real events of what happened to the plane there's actually coordinates in one of the videos that put the plane that we see a 7 s7200 consistent with Malaysian Airlines flight 370 in the nicobar islands uh at the time and location that the plane actually was there um so what we've learned is that this is potentially one of the biggest conspiracies of all time that the official narrative about what happened in this plane going to South IND ocean which never really made any sense um is just a fabrication and then the question is why why would you lie about something like that right and then we go back to the videos again and we answer that question too is advanced technology that we're seeing maybe uh they call it AGI which I think is like Advanced artificial intelligence we are potentially seeing room temperature super conductivity which is what allows the orbs to create this uh this bubble essentially around them that displaces them from SpaceTime and when you can displace yourself from SpaceTime you have no mass and when you have no mass that means you can ignore gravity which is what they appear to be doing um so that's kind of the the bridge version of it what they are doing to the plane is in the videos again explained to me by uh scientists engineers and physicists is not a black hole it's not an explosive or implosion either um it's an endothermic event that we see in the thermal which is an absorption of energy and this has been described as a phase transition happening to the plane um so if you guys are into science I suggest checking out the double slit experiment it's the greatest mystery in all physics at the moment and what we have Happening Here is there's a unification Theory somehow out there of quantum mechanics and general relativity which is the very small things and the very big things there is an explanation for how these things can merge in our reality and how uh they interact and that it's already been unlocked it was unlocked 10 years ago and they found a way for objects that are even as large as a 777 to act as though they are uh Quantum objects um which allows them to uh move at very high speeds potentially faster than the speed of light you know this is where we come up with quantum entanglement non-locality and quantum teleportation so these are the kinds of scientific Concepts that we are dealing with and we're dealing with this conspiracy but what becomes bigger than the plane missing you know as sad as this is to say because there was 239 Souls that were on this plane families got no answers witnesses that were all discredited because they had to cover up the official story and a person who's a leaker who potentially went to jail even bigger than all that is the technology is being hidden from us and I think that's where the crypto side can kind of find some uh overlap which is that you know the the fact that they cover this up kind of makes us essentially slaves to the system right if we have access to this technology the same way if we have access to our own money through crypto then we are no longer dependent upon the government right right um so that's I gu the introduction to the story wow okay so there's a lot there so I want to even go back further so why did you take this upon yourself you even saidt apprciate kind of maybe accidentally become the citizen journalist who's in charge or at the head of this entire report and investigation why did you feel it was important for you personally to spearhead this yeah and I think the part where I got really advoc uh activist about it is when uh the Reddit was a subreddit was able to prove that in the satellite video that we were looking at a citric session that was logged into the actual spy satellite database via the mouse that we saw in the video having 24 frames per second consistent with a citric session but the background was six frames per second so we see this discrepancy and this discrepancy is explained by someone actually logged in the database and in addition to that I could tell at the same time just by looking at it that we weren't looking at somebody who like took a picture with a camera phone or even had a camera set up behind them right they were doing an actual screen recording so I'm looking at I'm going wait a minute did someone like do the not necessarily ultimate sacrifice because they're not dead I don't think but they took a sacrifice to leak this footage knowing they would get caught 100% and that's when I decided like okay if someone's going to make this sacrifice and somebody needs to speak up and people asked me why would you be the one to do this and I'll be perfectly honest throughout this whole space but I always try to be as transparent as possible possible is that for one I have a security clearance with the government that is not related to any of this I'm not trying to disclose the security clearance to make you believe anything I'm saying the reason why I disclose a security clearance is that you realize that people that have tried to disclose this type of stuff I think about the people like Bob Lazar whether or not you believe he's accurate or not they get discredited right that's how they fight back they don't kill people as much anymore although some people tell me they do um but what they try to do is they try to say that you're crazy or something like that or you know and so with the security clearance it means that I'm not rushan disinformation like US government has checked my background out um I'm not crazy they have you know they have ways to cheuck make sure your psychological profile is fine I'm not a criminal that go through all of your criminal history so it gets rid of a lot of different attack venues for somebody who' be disclosing this the other thing is I don't have a lot of connections that people can use on me um I'm not married out there I don't have kids so they couldn't like you know threaten my family or anything like that and I looked at the videos and the science of it and I realized the implications early on which was what I just kind of told you guys is that this type of Technology just room temperature super conductivity alone which has started to I think become uh in the Zeitgeist as of lk99 will change everything so if you think of if I can relate it back to crypto you think of mining crypto right and that you need all these servers to mine crypto and when you use servers to mine crypto a lot of it's about how do you deal with the heat like if you have a database Farm it's like how do you manage the the Heat and they have these big servers out uh uh warehouses of servers out there and most of it's just about how do you air condition and cool them well with room temperature superc conductivity your phone no longer heats up computers might not heat up anymore microchips just might be room temperature the entire time what this means is you don't lose any energy from the loss of heat transferring energy over long per over long distances and what this can do is it can make mining crypto extremely efficient very efficient um so that's just one application of it now can also lead to you know things like floating hoverboards like Back to the Future um and you know uaps like we see them floating around the sky new forms of propulsion so I think that all this stuff is vitally important for advancing the human race and that's why I'm you know dedicated to it I guess wait hold up wasn't the room temperature superconductor weren't those proven as not like real or like like theoretically possible but the one from South Korea was not like we didn't get any conclusive evidence that it was that that it was functional I what did you hear about that yeah and I'd say that if this technology is real then there's a very real disinformation campaign to try to keep it from us and it's very important that if that lk99 is real that the West doesn't learn about it because otherwise it's going to unlock everything that we're seeing in these videos so I've been proving that the lk99 is Real by simply posting videos of flux pin uh which I'll go ahead and put in the chat here in a minute as well which flux pinning means that you have a metal or a substance that is partially superconductive and partially not superconductive and what this means is the magnetic uh lines are essentially able to go through part of it but they're wrapping around the superconductive parts and then when you put it over a magnet it will float freely suspended in air and this has been proven several times over on videos so what seems to have happened in the west is that and this is how disinformation works is that they push out and say oh I wasn't able to reproduce that it must be fake and then everybody screams it's fake it's fake it's fake and then something called social contagion takes over the same way you learned that you think it's fake but I'm I almost promise you have no idea where that source of that information comes from right because we are social creatures and we spread information amongst one another without ever digging into okay where did that come from who did the person who actually did that did they recreate accurately did they get the recipe right you know um simple questions like this and I think that's where I would challenge us at all to think very critically about the information that we receive um and I call it kind of the Reddit effect which is nobody really reads past the headlines right or the first top comments and then we have this ability to kind of adopt those beliefs as our own now I'm not saying that necessarily lk99 is fully legit one thing I've learned is we don't even necessarily need meta materials for room temperature superc conductivity uh one thing I've learned from the engineers is that we might be able to induce super room temperature superc conductivity in regular medals as well um but I do think lk99 is legit myself so that's just my belief though I can't prove it well shout out to lk99 okay so look let's say it does exist um which look I'm I'm always a skeptic um when it comes to a lot of things and I think that's what makes this conversation interesting why why are they trying who's trying to hide it from us like you're saying that they're trying to hide it from the West like who is who is that yeah that would be the government for sure so this is all definitely being covered up for defense purposes right whoever controls the technology if we look at the MH370 videos we're talking about let's just be frank teleportation that's not the only implication of this technology this technology has several very important implications to it um faster than light communication force fields and cloaking Annihilation so we actually think that this technology could completely wipe out any nuclear missile that shot at us the Perfect Defense essentially that's just for starters then we're talking about fusion power if you can create this bubble that displaces these orbs from SpaceTime you can actually have the power of the sun inside one of these bubbles that can contain it um that allows for fusion power to be stable and miniaturized you can actually even have free energy that you can have an open system that puts out more energy than it takes in as as hard as that is to believe that you can actually borrow the energy from the the vacuum of SpaceTime and then lastly the biggest most important part is doomsday weapons uh if you read the scientific paper from salvator Pas the last paragraph you that where he describes all this technology high frequency gravitational wave generator the last one is you could use this technology to destroy a planetoid or asteroid now he's being koi there because if you just scale it up now you're talking about destroying a planet scale it up even more now you're talking about destroying the Sun so there's a couple implications one is that this is a trump card and whoever controls this technology controls the world so if it's the United States you don't want necessarily China or Russia to have access to technology and this gives you motivation to cover it up and if room temperature superc conductivity is the key then you need to cover that up and then the other part of it is what if this gives a capability for a single person a terrorist person who has ill intent to destroy the entire planet how long would we even last right I think that's what the military fears okay ba Carter thank you very much there's so much okay so basically this is the the that that you're presenting that something like lk99 exists um room temperature superconductors and this allows all of these things like the implication of all these different Technologies and and applications that you mentioned and what does that have to do with them using it on this specific plane so why did they use these orbs to teleport the plane essentially like why why would they do that what's the purpose like you're saying to keep the technology people was the technology on the plane like what's the story there yeah it seems to be tied to the 20 freescale semiconductor scientists who are on board This Plane way too many people for one plane almost every big company has a rule you can only have three or four people from the same company on the plane just in case of situations like this where something were to go wrong uh we've been able to tie these people directly to us defense and Aerospace several different ways um they put out a press release saying that they were uh supplying R RF power needs for us Aerospace and defense there's uh rumors if not necessarily 100% accurate of microchips they're extremely tiny that have all sorts of uh purposes one I talking to one uh person who was a podcaster said that they could actually have room temperature superc conductive chips they're using quantum computers and when we're talking about Advanced a AGI we're talking about potentially uh quantum computers being necessary for that and then we also even found which I didn't think we would ever find anything like this but a 2005 National Security Agency report about commercial emergence of room temperature superconductive chips and it references freescale semiconductors nine times so we have 20 Engineers from this company on board This Plane where this company is directly tied to us defense and I would argue that the motive then is that either you are saving these people in a doomed plane situation or this is an Espionage situation where you're preventing them from going to China because even if you set back China 10 years from this like whoever controls this technology just simply has military supremacy of the world and then the last theory that I think has some plausibility is that if this plane is doomed perhaps this is a situation where you're just testing this technology out maybe it's not proven yet and you're like well they're doomed anyway we might as well give it a go but my personal opinion is that they're trying to save these people that are very important thank you might appreci what was wrong with the plane why did the plane like why did they have to save it in the first place so the real story of this plane is the lithium ion batteries on board it 221 kg that's almost 500 lb lithium ion batteries in the cargo bay they're actually made by Motorola which is where freescale semiconductors broke off of in 2004 now I think that's just an incidental uh fact but 19 different Witnesses all tell the same story Mike McKay when this plane goes dark he sees it on fire and this is where these lithium ion batteries would have ignited and if you watch lithium ion battery fires I'm sure some of you guys have seen them extremely dangerous events they actually smoke then they explode then they're on fire and you can't put them out it's called Runway lithium ion battery fire I didn't even know how dangerous these were until I started investigating it turned out that a bunch of planes burned up in the years before this and then the year after 2015 the FAA Outlaws them in the passenger in the cargo bay of passenger planes because of how dangerous they are and we got 500 lounds of them there we might as well just load this thing up with TNT now the thing about it is that these cargo bays are actually built to withstand fires up to 1,700 degrees fenhe or 900 de C so from talking to engineers and experts it's actually possible they could have maintained or uh kept this fire at Bay temporarily for even over an hour which is about how long we think this plane needed to be in the air in order to get to the position where the videos happen and so they're using all the Halon fire extinguishing devices onboard the plane they're putting the fire out it's coming back up again over and over and over again and what this is doing is it's causing a chemical reaction in the hon uh extinguishing devices which is releasing bromine a hogen gas which is causing the plane to have this orange glow and there's actually a wit these 19 Witnesses including one who sees it start on fire some that hear the explosion on the coast uh eight fishermen on a boat who seen flying really low consistent with it being depressurized but the pilot trying to give the passengers enough oxygen to be able to breathe and then right at the point of where our videos happen a woman Kate t on a boat who's going to pette Thailand sees the plane glowing orange flying low and descending consistent with what we see in the videos where this plane's flying low it's descending and it looks like it's attempting an emergency landing in the ocean um and then who knows if they even knew what was about to happen to them but what I've presumed from the story that what we've seen in the videos and been able to deduce we think that the US government deployed this technology which allowed them to potentially put the battery fire out by absorbing the energy in the batteries because of this endothermic event this absorption of energy uh and while simultaneously moving it to another place on earth now I can't say exactly where um we have some speculative thoughts about that but that's kind of what we think is happening with this plane and that's why we also don't think it's non-human intelligence in these videos it looks like it's our version of like if you saw uaps out there you know flying saucers Etc like we like figured that out we're like okay let's make our own little orbs here that can you know do stuff that's similar to that okay why is it hard for you to believe and I'm I'm by the way I'm just I'm learning a lot about this in real time as well um do you think it's not possible possible that they just crash into the ocean like what makes you think that that yeah it's completely impossible actually um so here's the reasons why I didn't crash into the ocean in the South Indian Ocean here I mean uh I've got a list of evidence that's currently not pinned my profile it used to be pinned for a long time but the evidence for why didn't crash into the ocean is no debris field found first of all that's completely impossible doesn't matter what angle this plane goes into the ocean it's going to rip apart uh Landing in the ocean is not like Landing in the Hudson River this is not a Sully slen Burger situation um the plane is going to River part if so there's going to be bodies there's going to be pieces of the plane luggage floating everywhere the debris field would be visible from space for days it would be tens if not hundreds of miles wide um this was the most expensive and extensive search in human history they searched with at least 42 planes and 39 boats from over 10 different countries and didn't find one piece of the plane the let me repeat that the official search did not even find one piece of the plane and they searched for three years the debris that did get found was washed up later on found by random people on the shore which accounts for less than 1% of the plane there was no black boxes found so they claim they know based on these pings where the plane went and yet they didn't find any black boxes when they searched everywhere there's three different acoustic systems that would have heard the plane crash into the ocean the Sosa system the one that heard the Titan sub pop recently if you guys remember the Titanic situation where that sub went down they lied they they heard this the sub pop the Navy did the first day and they didn't say anything for 5 days while every uh Media Station had these oxygen counters running on TV this system was active back in 2014 and would have heard that the plane crash Western Australia and Diego Garcia both have hydrophone systems as well that would have heard it and have no acoustic detections for a plane crash in the South Indian Ocean India in the nicobar islands Indonesia and Australia all have radar systems none of them catch the plane even though the plane theoretically goes right between through all these radar systems it's on an active shipping route nobody sees the plane it supposedly crashes in the morning as well nobody sees a plane crashing in the morning no debris field nothing people say well the ocean's really big uh yeah it is but this the the official flight path has the plane running out of fuel there's actually nowhere else for the plane to go it's not like it had enough fuel to fly to Antarctica or something like that so they literally searched everywhere the plane could have possibly gone given the Assumption of fuel exhaustion uh there's four emergency redundant elt emergency transponder beacons on this plane that only activate during crash none of them activate 19 families of the victims signed statements begging the government to look into the fact that the victim's phones were able to be rung for up to 4 days after the event you cannot ring a phone if it's at the bottom of the ocean heck even if it's like a few miles off the coast the cell phone towers don't go that far the phone's die under within 30 minutes of being underwater and saltwater one person even proved this live on TV I posted it to my Twitter uh several weeks ago um so that's the the strongest evidence for a why we can say conclusively this plane just didn't crash into the ocean something else happened to it so what about this theory that um they're saying that the pilot basically flew these same routes in his home simulator simulator about that that's been pretty much debunked as well even by the people that think the plane win in the South Indian Ocean is that it what they do is they match up the route of mh150 from that goes from Ura Jetta which is in the Middle East and they claim that this is partially similar to after the plane gets past panang and flies to the Andaman ocean Andaman sea which is just a slightly Northwest route what they forget to tell you is that the date stamps on these uh this route that they claim as the suicide route is February 2nd and he was actually slated to fly mh150 to Jetta on February 4th just two days later he was practicing his route to jeda he wasn't practicing a suicide route and then they have like two version points this is essentially like saying there's just two like coordinates that were in his his uh simulator this uh custom simulator that he had that were in the South Indian Ocean and that somehow proves that he went down there like that's not even that's barely circumstantial evidence maybe he he loved flying this guy had 18,000 flight hours he had a elaborate home custom simulator in there one of the points that he had was Diego Garcia military base which is also the place where everybody on the conspiracy side thinks this is plane went so there's just as much evidence that this was a suicide route as there is that this was a route to fly to Diego Garcia military base okay so all right let's skip forward a little bit here these orbs so your so your theor is basically this this plane was teleported out of the air and these orbs that were seen I guess in these videos or whatever had something to do with it I mean what do you think about these orbs yeah uh so the orbs I think are probably I if I had to just guess I'd say Lockheed Martin technology third part party contractor with the Department of Defense uh probably like the highest security clearance technology that's out there because of the implications that I mentioned before where do you get that from uh I mean from ufology Mostly but there's a few big companies that are Aerospace and defense contractors so locked Martin's one of them North grumman's another Boeing is actually one themselves Bigalow airspace is one there's probably others that I I don't know about but people that in ufology are very familiar with the idea that these companies were theoretically given UAP craft one time in the past because it Shields the government from foyer requests Freedom of Information Act requests you can't Foy a private company but you can put them under nda's non-disclosure agreements which makes it so that they can't speak about anything that would be classified and so this was the most logical place for this technology to be developed um the government itself is not very efficient at uh reverse engineering not efficient at keeping information secret or really anything in my opinion so this is why you reach out to these third party contractors to do it and now a lot of people aren't familiar with these types of companies either because their commercial product their commercial footprint is basically non-existent they almost wholly exist to be subsidiaries of Department of Defense and Military purposes okay so what are these orbs like where did they come from like let's let's say they are made by locky Martin or some other group what doesn't really matter um where are these orbs like where's the actual proof that these orbs exist and teleported This Plane well I mean that's a bit of a loaded question I think the answer is we've got two videos um you know I think that the whole body of evidence that we've put forth is more evidence than probably any court case in the history of the world people get convicted of murder for much less evidence than this in general 19 Witnesses two videos we were able to uh figure out the satellite that was potentially in the re region that was sending the data to build the cber system which is a Google Earth uh video playback for the military essentially that's pers Global persistent surveillance monitoring if you just Google cers sbirs space based infrared system and go to press the videos button you will find locked Martin's website there they are again locked Martin and you will see uh an example of this in terms of them scanning the Earth all the time so these orbs are going to be what we see when we see this orb this we're seeing a field it's called a non-radiating barrier so this is where they are able to break down SpaceTime using very powerful electromagnetic uh pulses we believe that is accelerating uh the uh I'm going to probably say the term in correctly because I'm just trying to get better at the science here but it it can essentially break through the fabric of SpaceTime to create this field around the orb now it uses a very specific pattern for this it's called a toroid and the toid is like a donut and you take a dut and you turn it on its side and you stack it next to other donuts and make another dut out of it and you can create a shape that can focus and uh amplify these electromagnetic fields so it makes it so that when this interaction occurs the uh I think I'm going to say this wrong but the electrons they kind of get stuck to a point and focused and this allows you to amplify this energy so this is how we get things like creating enough energy that you can break down the vacuum state of SpaceTime as well as some of the other applications that I was talking about which is uh free energy or fusion power and that's why uh the room temperature super conductivity is really the key to all this is that once you get to a point where you have room temperature superc conductivity uh I'm trying to think of a good analogy it's almost like having a cheat in a video game where now all of a sudden you don't have to put as much energy into the into the system to create a powerful effect that's being Amplified that's coming out of it okay so why would they do it in such a public way though you know what I mean like it they're trying you're saying they're trying to save people that were on the plane because these are the world's leading experts and and the superconductor stuff um like why do this in in such a public way yeah I don't think they were doing it in a public way I think they were doing it in a very private way and they didn't expect these videos to come out I'm 100% sure about that much uh I think the bigger question is why take this huge risk I mean it's a huge amount of risk this can't be something that's about money can't be about whatever is in the cargo either plane was most likely doomed so if you trying to make it disappear you just let it crash honestly um like I tell the people like this is the trump card too right so if this is your trump card you know this isn't the kind of thing that you want to risk um in terms of like having China or Russia figure this out and part of the reason why I think that I haven't probably been silenced in a more overt way is because it's been nine years excuse me if we had can figure this out which is I'm just a normal guy and I've got a team of volunteers but we just have a Twitter account Google access if we can figure this out then China and Russia intelligence probably figure this out years ago and that may be why they don't care as much about this information coming out although they're still covering it up for for sure uh we even think somebody went to prison for 6 to9 years over this um so there has to be a major reason and that only person who can answer that or only people is the government themselves in terms of why they took this risk but again I think it goes back to the the scientists and Engineers who are on board that's the most logical straightforward answer okay so why hav they like we've had other instances in which really important people have been on planes and there's been issues and unfortunately they've lost their lives why do you think that they specifically chose to do this now you think it's just the people that were on the plane were so important to this that they couldn't afford to lose them so the government employed teleportation technology to teleport the plane yeah I think they might even have more than just teleportation technology like I said you know this leads to a lot of different things as well so um you know like perfect missile defense but teleportation technology is one of them and you know they're most likely trying to put out this emergency event this fire these people must have meant a lot to them and uh but again I I can't speak speak to the motivations all I can really do is present the evidence and let people come to their own conclusions on it some people think that nope this must be non-human intelligence some people think that uh you know there's no way the government would be this benevolent right there must be a benevolent purpose so you know that may go to the Espionage scenario I can't say if whether or not maybe the pilots were incapacitated and this was remote controlled that's a theory that's out there can't tell whether or not the fire was accidental or incidental uh or sorry incidental or um planned right but you know I can just tell you my opinion on that on the stuff in general but uh I think we've got a pretty comprehensive story as to the incred uh it you know being an incredible story I I agree it's it's it's hard to believe that they would do something like this and it's hard to believe that we have teleportation technology but the more you dig into the science uh I think you'll see that it does check out and I'm very confident that as time goes on all of this will be Vindicated and and made public now I hope it's in my lifetime but I think the government has a very slow drip long-term plan for what we call disclosure and I think a lot of people and I see a lot of people in the UF UAP community in this space right now I want to thank you guys for being here um I think they failed to a lot of people not the people in this chat necessarily but UAP disclosure in general failed to see the full implications of it which is that okay if a species can go from another star to our star and visit us they're not using rockets for this right they're not gonna take a thousand years to get here the speed of light even if you go at the speed of light the nearest star is four light years away that means it would take four years of the speed of light to get to us you need to go faster than the speed of light and what that means then is that we need to have some type of Technology just like teleportation what teleportation means is super luminal speeds F traveling faster than the speed of light non-locality quantum entanglement right and these Concepts have been proven but we haven't gotten to the point in 2023 yet where we can understand a full comprehensive theory of they call it the Theory of Everything how you can uh reconcile quantum mechanics with uh the macroscopic general relativity and that's if we think about that we think of the implications then if you can make something go faster than the speed of light uh doomsday weapons are really within the realm of possibility as well as all those other things I listed before so it comes down to can we handle this technology do we feel safe enough that a single individual is not going to destroy our whole planet our whole civilization and I think the government says Nope we don't feel the safe enough for that and that's why they they covered up and from what I've been told I've been making contacts and sources is that anybody who goes out there and tries to experiment with this themselves tries to recreate these on a small scale uh if you create a gravitational wave they can detect it and that they come knocking on your door and you either get told to stop or you get pulled in on the inside I've also been told that scientific paper exist where the big one is mass reduction which is essentially when you create this bubble uh that your mass gets reduced to zero because that enables everything as well and this again comes from potentially room temperature superc conductivity so that there's scientific papers out there that already prove that we can do this and they get classified and nobody's allowed to see them and this is why from a public perspective we remain ignorant to it and why people think it can't be possible and why aren't where are the scientific papers to read it well they're they're kept classified they're not allowed to come out to the public so that's just what I've heard on that front I'll just tell you you know fully up front that's um the stuff that I've heard from people no I appreciate that and you know for the record I think a lot of this [ __ ] does exist and that we don't know about it we've talked about on the space a lot um it like oh look teleportation all these things can probably exist I think like theoretically um there's been a lot of signs and evidence to prove that these things might be possible in the future I have no [ __ ] clue about superc conductors or any of this other I just be honest with you I I don't know anything about that and that's why I'm asking you these questions because I'm learn like the first time like any like a lot of other people um if you want to know anything about nft projects and what's a rug let me know I'll definitely teach you on that but with this it's it's very new to me um what has been the biggest push back for you because like you're going on all these different appearances and like all these people like hitting you up all over the place you become kind of a kind of famous when it comes to this and um you know deserve so you put in a lot of work and a lot of time to to put all the evidence together what has been the biggest push back that makes you kind of sit back and say huh maybe maybe I could be wrong or at least this person has a good point yeah um no I think that I I definitely have doubts a lot in the story I think that at this point though we've put together such a comprehensive story that in my mind there's no doubt that the the videos are real I mean finding the leaker was really the one of the biggest smoking guns is that the evidence for Edward C Lynn being the guy that leaked this stuff is almost completely undeniable I mean um but you know I think that the the people that ask the questions end up just leading to more authentication of the videos one of the biggest ones was the cber system we had isolated the satellite there was a satellite pair staring right down at the nicobar islands like we've proven the US government at spy satellites staring right at the plane where the plane supposedly turned in the South Indian Ocean so they know for sure whether or not it did or not go into the South Indian Ocean and said nothing we know that for sure and people said well the satellite's moving really fast you know how could this satellite be taking the video right and the answer is it's not it's just sending data to a computer system that is producing a realtime video 3D playback Battlefield map just like Google Earth right and this is proven because we're seeing six frames per second where we're seeing six frames per second because it's a computer program that's producing a huge resolution widescreen field of view and it can't do that at a higher frame rate because it's pulling data in real time from a a satellite um and it can create the color whatever color it needs this is also why we don't see the atmospheric Distortion when we're staring at these videos because it's not really actually stering it's like a recreation of it this is also why we see the two axis coordinates in the bottom left the reason why we don't see three axis is because it's not tracking the plane in the third dimension which is the up down Dimension it's just X and Y on a and it's pointing at a point on the Earth itself and so this is how they can move it around and theoretically pull back video playback of anywhere they want on the whole globe at any time they want they can go back and say oh where was Ashton last week outside of his uh house right and and look at me so this is probably one of the most startling revelations in general this is where like kim.com started to get interested as well because people that look at it from the global you know government surveillance can realize what the implications of this stuff are um you know people have put a lot of debunks out there some people think we're looking at '90s video Gam game Graphics some people think that there's you know similar frames Etc out there but we've been able to refute every single one so far pretty conclusively in my mind at least and the biggest thing is that we put up a $145,000 bounty 100,000 from kim.com 20,000 from the investigate Earth podcast Chad and Sherry who are amazing people and then another 25,000 from a follower uh of mine who ran for higher office which means either senate or congress who I've spoken to and actually like really believes in the case so that adds up to $145,000 to find the supposed hoaxer of these absolute masterpieces and prod produce the source files because like just like mve making like a CGI and a movie right you don't you don't produce the end product on the first try right you have a bunch of work in terms of building up to that so this person would have a hard rifle so if they didn't apparently want any credit for some reason for the last nine years but now they can get 145,000 and presumably any job in any Studio on the face of the planet given the amount of work but I think that the reality is that that's never going to happen because the videos are are just real as hard as that is to believe and I was in your same spot I'll tell you as well just as a quick uh story is that the first couple weeks when I was staring at this and I'm going wow this this is real somehow uh I couldn't believe it myself I was having such hard ontological shock that I actually asked my parents I went over to my parents house and I'm talking to them I'm going guys I have to ask you something like just don't think I'm crazy but like is this The Truman Show is this like a prank is this like is my whole life a prank and because that felt more plausible to me than having there being like teleportation technology that's hidden by our government out there um but it starts to fade after a while and you start to come to terms with well you dig into the science you're like okay wait this this does kind of check out you have people like Salvador Pas reach out to me and go I want to do a podcast with you and I'm like I don't even do podcasts but this guy wants to talk to me because he's looking at these videos and he's can tell that his patents are on the video right um so that's the part where you're like okay this isn't The Truman Show this is uh somehow real um but yeah yeah it is bizarre it definitely is bizarre um so you you don't think that it got shot down in anyway no no chance I mean it getting shot down is one even more less plausible than it crashing because the debris field would be like hundreds of miles if it's shot down um just like with uh I'm trying to think of any other examples that recently um but even like uh ua93 on 911 which you know the uh well we're going to go with the official narratives on this one at least uh that you know that these Heroes fought back against the terrorists who were flying the plane like the debris field was I think over 100 miles on that with it just crashing and if it was in the ocean that's going to spread out and we've proven we have satellites everywhere um China in fact hacked the Malaysian government the next day stole the crisis medium minute notes and a supposedly classified information about MH370 like what would be classified the next day the answer is China has satellites too and they knew this plane didn't crash in the ocean so they were like okay we're going to find something but yeah the idea that the plane was shot down you could never hide a debris field from a plane being shot down um another one that was shot down uh sorry go ahead what about the and sorry to interrupt you what about the families right so yeah all the people that on families mothers Brothers Sisters Wives whatever it might be like what are they saying about this yeah they've said nothing not a single family memb has reached out to me uh I think most of them have been silenced in one way or another um and I don't mean being killed and I want to go ahead right now and tell the families that they have my deepest condolences my only intention is to try to get the truth for them for the witnesses who were discredited the pilots who were vilified who definitely were not suicidal and for this leaker who spent potentially six years in prison where we ignored these videos um but what I found found is that a lot of them were forced into settlements they initially all got up $50,000 for non-conditional um but then after that you would not believe how little money they got they on average from my investigation got about $30,000 each that's it from this for their for their family disappearing um and the reason for this is that most of these cases actually all the cases were either tried in China or in uh Malaysia because there was a case in the United States in 2016 that that I think over a hundred of the families tried to get the case in the United States where they potentially would have got millions each um and it was dismissed after two years in 2018 and it was dismissed because they argued that Malaysia is the better place for it under some uh law regulation says okay whichever place whichever country is more applicable that's the only place you can sue even though boe's an American company and this is where it got the conspiracy I almost started falling down the rabbit hole myself here because I go look at who the judges who dismissed it the name is Kenji Brown Jackson future Supreme Court Justice who was nominated under Biden in 2020 um and that just seems very like how how could that possibly be the one Justice that gets nominated to the Supreme Court just two years later seemed very unusual to me especially because if these videos are real now the United States is directly implicated in The Disappearance of the plane and then for sure sure the right court is United States over Malaysia you know Malaysia was just the airline the people that made it disappear would be the ones who were directly implicated and should be getting sued um so the families when they took the settlement and this is we can actually we had some uh statements from uh Jang he uh I think his name is I'm probably butchering that if so I apologize um he's one of the few who's still fighting back and there's actually a news article just a couple weeks ago about how the case in China with like the last few people they're actually asking to have the search come back up but anyone who signs who signs a settlement now basically is forced in the silence you can't speak out against the case or Malaysia anymore or uh The Airliner and so what's happened with this is like over the years like a lot of these people lost their income earners and their families so imagine the pressure they're under to take the settlement especially when they've gotten no official answer and there's no hope for an official answer even though they all know the official truth is that the the or the official story um by the government is that there's no answer for why the plane disappeared the narratives that we hear about this South Indian Ocean are all just narratives same with the pilot suicide thing none of that's official from any official statements um and that should go to show you how weak the case is for this uh South Indian Ocean crash and how weak the case is for this suicide narrative it's just narratives things that we're told to believe not anything that's truthful all right so what are the impc lications of uh of this Tech like this Technologies this teleportation so on and so forth and and I see a lot of comments in your comment section right now um saying that I'm trying to stump you I'm really not I'm genuinely curious um what is I mean like what could the implications of this being you know the public knowing about this what do you think um yeah I mean the implications are pretty big I mean first of all it change everything about our way of life you know I think just room temperature super conductivity would change everything about our way of life just that right from some of the implications that I was mentioning to you I think it would change everything about crypto frankly um I think crypto imagine if crypto becomes like infinitely efficient and now you can mine crypto for basically no cost you know it probably would destroy the value of a lot of cryptocurrencies um it'll change everything about Computing if we have quantum computers that can come from this I don't even know what all the implications of that are I think that advanced AGI they call it I still don't know what AGI exactly stands for but just means like super Advanced AI that's basically achiev singularity um it makes me wonder if that's not possible even makes me wonder if we couldn't have a conscious Ai and create Consciousness with this type of Technology um but the bigger implications of the geopolitical ones like really doomsday I think is the biggest one is that you could have like almost James Bond super villain level uh situations happen where a single individual who uses this technology for nefarious purposes can not just destroy a city we're not just talking nukes anymore right we're talking about actually blow up or I I don't know the exact word for it maybe turn our Earth into a black hole and destroy our entire planet in that sense and if they can do that then this is why I ask people that are disclosure Advocates if this was possible if a single person could uh eliminate the entire Earth is it still worth having disclosure most of them come back and say yes because it's still up to us as humans to you know destroy ourselves or seek salvation however however you want to put it right but this is why want it to be open so that we can have these discussions so that we can really come to terms with the real implications of this technology and figure out how are we going to disclose this technology without destroying ourselves maybe the answer to the firmy Paradox and the great filter is because any sufficiently technologically advanced civilization wipes itself out and if that's the truth then we need to be very careful we do this technology and that would also explain why the government doesn't want us to have it they don't trust us oh I don't trust them now me too what is um you're absolutely right about crypto I think it would just destroy I mean if everybody could just infinitely mine and there was no cost of doing it I think it would I it just like destroy crypto in in so many different ways um now you you mentioned earlier and I want to talk about aliens in a second but you mentioned at the beginning of the space that there was a theory that was brought up to you that essentially maybe AGI artificial general intelligence has something to do with this and also maybe AGI is already funding itself with crypto which honestly dude I would not be surprised I mean look at everything that open AI recently and um you know if we're now just getting something like chat GPT and uh the functionalities that it has I mean God knows what the government and all of them have have had access to for the past 20 years all right so talk to me about that theory like AGI funding itself with crypto and is it funding itself with Dogecoin yeah I mean that's a great question now now we're just kind of getting theoretical stuff but this is more fun right so we've done all the hard evidence stuff and we've had the ontological shock sinking a little bit um the AI part is the one that freaks me out the most man just even from early on I had a this list of all the possible narratives and there's also this program called the sentient program that was also Declassified in 2011 or 2012 it actually controls all the satellites it's an advanced AI so and now you just told me what that stands for AGI Advanced general intelligence um and it controls and operationalizes all the satellites and when I saw that I'm like man I wonder if AI already won right like if we we think of like things like the terminate like Terminator movie where it's like oh AI is going to Nuke everybody doesn't it make more sense for it to like stay in the background stay hidden right and just control the entire world uh through like more nefarious indirect means as opposed to starting a nuclear Holocaust right um that's the part that scares me more and I think about movies like The Matrix um which may have been preminent uh so but yeah I mean I can't say exactly but it does creep me out that like even The Avengers movie with uh age of Voltron where it's like yeah if you have this Advanced AI it's going to be able to have as much money as it wants as much resources as it wants and then probably what it' be doing is just trying to advance itself right until it reaches that Singularity point and the part that scared me the most from talking with uh Dave Rossy and salvator PAs yesterday was when they were talking about well what if the AI figures out Quantum and macro unification and now the AI can destroy the planet or really anything it wants ESS stuff that we would consider to be magic right achieve a point where it can create free Power and free energy for itself um I I really believe that the number one threat in the future is artificial intelligence I mean I 100% agree with you there I think we align there um I me it's incredibly scary what's going on with this stuff um and I think we're going to face a future in which 99.9% of everything that happens online will be indistinguishable from like between humans and AI we just won't know and I actually think crypto might have a huge part to play in this in terms of verification of of human identity right like that's even something like worldcoin whether people agree with that project which is you know Sam alman's thing whether they agree with it or not it's an interesting use case of the technology um also somebody in your chat said whoever made the plane disappear can they make the nfts disappear too I hate you mfers um okay so following from there um what about the alien Theory here right so I actually personally believe that I just think it's statistically impossible that aliens don't exist I mean we are a speck a fragment tiny piece in in this universe there's just no way that other biological life does not exist now whether it's as advanced as human or maybe like way more advanced I have no clue there but I also think that we've probably already made content or contact I just I think it's just impossible that we haven't um and maybe it's not in the in the way that people see it like ET coming sort of thing maybe it's a little bit different um but like what about the alien Theory here do you think that you said this is not alien technology why do you believe that well not necessarily that's not alien technology but I don't think that we're looking at aliens here and I don't think we need uh aliens to explain what we see in the videos at all other than it's hard for me to believe that we would be this secretly Advanced without some assistance and that's why I think that this will corroborate the sworn statements by whist David grush to Congress U now the difference between him and me is that you know he's actually worked potenti ially and been read in on you know supposedly body retrieval crash retrievals and um you know the UAP technology in general and that means he's under an NDA where he can't speak about any of that stuff the benefit that I have is because my clearance is in healthcare completely unrelated to this stuff I don't have any ndas so anything that I discover from the public knowledge or any anywhere honestly I am under no obligation to be quiet about it uh now I do be quiet about some stuff because I don't want to damage my sources but everything else I learned from the public perspective I'm just singing like a canary here um my personal opinion is that uh you know I don't I don't know that aliens are are visiting us they could be for sure I think that a lot of the uaps we see are probably either our technology or Russia or China's technology even going back to I think you were even mentioning the February shootdowns earlier of the China spy balloon but then there was like three other shootdowns or four other shootdowns after that they were like not nearly as politicized or covered in the media um and I think that that stuff could be our technology if we found this we could easily have found it from archaeological digs like it I first of all I agree with you there's got to be aliens out there somewhere right the universe is too big we're not the only life I think in the universe there's other life out there somewhere the only question then is can they get to us or not I think this technology makes it so it is feasible for them to get to us but it does seem to just make more sense that they would have been here before us we would have dug them up we would have found these archaeological digs we find these uaps we figure out how they work but my favorite Theory when it comes to non-human intelligence is the ultraterrestrial hypothesis which is that they are like our cousins that they maybe either come from the oceans which you know the ocean is more vast than even the land that we have and we know very little about it uh or potentially even could be underground but I think that the ocean hypothesis is the one I think is most interesting because a lot of these uaps they're seen by the Navy over water a lot of them a huge amount of the Sans are and the Navy seems to be the one that's On's hiding or covering a lot of this stuff up so it all seems to tie back to the water um and just from some of the other stuff that I've I've been tracking U ufology for about six years now since 2017 a lot of stories everything seems to go back to the water there's even stuff about the NOAA which is what the national oceanographic something Association where like these people might be hiding even a potential civilization that's under the water um again this is pretty bold claims and I don't have any evidence to prove any of this stuff but that's just my personal opinion I mean have you seen octopus those mfers are aliens if SE them um I agree we know less about I mean we know less about the the Ocean than we knew we know about the surface of Mars right like it's it's actually kind of crazy um no I totally agree with you there like the and even on the octopus thing like they're like I think genetically like super different from us as well so I mean imagine the other thing I think people should get used to is the idea that like aliens might not be anything like us right they could be like completely different as well um I was watching the show what's it called uh something scavengers on HBO one of the trippiest shows ever it's like an anime adult animated show just came out a few months ago and like there's these scavengers that crash on this planet and this planet like Whoever thought of this show was like on a lot of drugs for sure but but the coolest Parts is like all the different life forms and just like mindbending things that happen on this planet that are just completely incredible and that's what I think people should be thinking about is they're not necessarily going to be just like us no 100% agree and I think to think that they are just like that us is the most pretentious like self-centered egotistical way that like humans saying that aliens going to look exactly like us talk like us act like us we're not we're not that important um Ash have youever had any threats has anybody like come at you and said like shut up like shut this uh first of all the show's called scavengers rain you guys definitely should check that show out man trippy show um no I haven't got any threats yet I'm actually surprised that I haven't got any threats yet I I definitely expected to get like a knock on the door a weird phone call or something like that and I haven't I definitely have had a lot of attacks on my character for sure uh but you know I'm always skeptical to try to blame people for a lot of that stuff because I think that just the nature of this is so hard for people to understand and believe that I can understand why people would have an emotional reaction and lash out on that front um and that's even why I've tried to reconcile with a lot of the uip community that we've been at odds but um no direct threats um really there's very little I could be threatened with though honestly like I'm ready to lay my life down for this if necessary and I just mean that from perfectly honest perspective um I I I could not live with myself at this point knowing that this is all true and keeping it quiet for the rest of my life unless they paid me a lot of money but no um and there's not a lot of people could threaten me with like uh you know if they came after my dog I would definitely go full John Wick on everybody but other than that there there's not much they could do yeah they better not come after my dog for hosting the space um okay here's a question that somebody just sent me in any way are you profiting off this right like are you selling books are you selling this is that is there any way that you started making money since you've kind of blown up with this story no I don't even know if I could write a book man uh if when this is all over I might hire a what do they call Ghost Rider or something like that they literally they could probably just take all my tweets and turn it into a book at this point but um no my goal isn't to make money on this like my regular job actually pays me pretty well um and I do want to make a documentary about it just because the MH 371 on Netflix is a strip garbage and documentary we would make about this would be like a 100 times better and I don't know maybe it would make a lot of money but the purpose of it would be to get the information out there and I think that this is why I'm not making something like Skinwalker Ranch or some cheesy TV show that's like for entertainment right I want to make a movie that's about getting the evidence out there in a format where it can reach a broad audience that's done in a serious format no scary music and stuff like that right um but I don't know I don't even think they would let us frankly I think that any director we talk to that's serious would get a talk to by the government say no don't don't do this right um and then I the only reason like full disclosure I've made I don't know how much money off Twitter recently probably total of like $200 $250 and I started giving some of that back and um gift cards to some of the investigators and inner circle that have helped out and done a lot of work um and then my YouTube man uh people started donating a lot of money to my YouTube surprisingly so I'm not really sure what I'm going to do with all that um I did buy like a very expensive camera to help increase the production value spent a ton of money uh printing out letters and sending them to Congress and stuff like that so I'm definitely not profiting in any significant way at all but just full disclosure like yeah people have been extremely generous even though every single time in my space I tell people and I mean this is that if you need your money please don't give it to me uh but there are people out there that have I guess lots of extra money and they believe in this cause a lot and they've been donating very generously to uh you know the YouTube stream in general and then it's also a bit of an insurance policy cuz I'm a little bit afraid of losing my job over this or having my security clearance not be able to be renewed and then if that's the case I need to have a backup plan which I don't know maybe I will turn into a podcaster um just full disclosure I don't know that I would have expected that but um I do want to try to do good in this world in whatever way I can I think the people who end up becoming the best podcasters are the one who never meant to do it in the first place um I was going to ask you the same question about your job like are you afraid that they has has any of your co-workers hit you up like ashon I see what what's going on on Twitter like you better chill has anything like that happened people a few people have noticed for sure there was one person I work with who's like one day he messaged me's like wait you're you're the guy's do wait I saw your name and I was like I just piece it together he's like I've been watching your work and I didn't realize it was you he's like and I I mean I have a pretty distinct name but for a while I hadn't revealed my full identity and so he just thought it was maybe a different Ashton or that I was using a fake moniker or something like that and so he started following and I think he's secretly my Discord as well but nobody knows uh and then there's a few other people that I told at work but weirdly like no I was actually talking to my boss just the other day about it and I was like so uh um I was on Alex Jones uh just you know did anyone say anything like cuz you know I'm just like a little bit worried about it I was even worried about just going on Alex Jones in general just because of the negative connotation that comes along with it but the reality is I can't afford to turn down a huge platform like that especially one that's like literally about conspiracy theories so I think it was still a positive experience and um you know if they if the government acted so overtly like that and like attacked my job or took away my security clearance like it would probably go to authenticate the videos in a way that they don't want so they have to be very careful about how they act in the situation right yeah when you uh at the beginning of the Alex Jones pod you're like just disclaimer like I I've heard a lot of bad like this has nothing to do with me um no that's why have you considered having maybe an nft profile picture so you're more believable I don't even know was that like what are the nfts again like you guys got to be like you got to understand like I was never really on part of social media or like I've got too much Boomer in me is what I say like I get people try to say that like I made these videos and I'm like dude I can barely use YouTube I like I I barely was able to cut five minutes of a video yesterday which is the first time I ever edited anything so nfts I I think that they're like videos that you pay for what are nfts oh right I can't just hurt there's actually people in your not from like a couple of our viewers have gone into your chat but like I see somebody in your chat their name is rudale and they've actually like a long time listener of ourspace and they have a a Prof it's interesting how the the audiences can kind of overlap like that and they're rocking a profile picture called the gods no I mean nft non funable token stuff it isn't my time to teach now um is basically you know it's just a digital certificate of authenticity and authenticates that something is legitimate and from the place that you think it is and it's usually on a blockchain so something like ethereum salon so on and so forth and a lot of time nfts can be used for videos but they're most often used for pictures um so whether that's like highlevel art whatever it might be or just something even like my profile picture which somebody in your comment section called an Amish blue potato chip um I've heard the potato chip part I haven't heard the Amish part before um so that's nft stuff and you know look just like you have people that this is hilarious try to call you crazy or disbo you or whatever I mean we deal even maybe on a smaller scale the same thing in the nft space where regularly you know people come up on stage and just call us [ __ ] idiots um for for supporting something that we believe in um so I definitely feel you on that one um I mean like how has your life changed from a dayto day since this started like I don't want to take too much your time I just have a couple more questions you're fine man so wait so you so you bought so basically it's art that you buy and then like you own the art and nobody else can use it so like there's no other blue potato chips out there okay so I'm G to ask you this question how much do you think I paid for this picture that's I was going to ask you so uh $50 I don't know I it's worth 50 it's worth $50 now I Pro it's literally worth 50 now but I bought it in February of 2022 and I paid 600 bucks for it 600 bucks wow well so but that means nobody can use it though right like you're buying the exclusive rights to it or what so Mo a lot of nft are IP based so something like yach club like their whole Nar was I'm sure you've heard of that that's like the biggest nft project um it's like their monkey pictures essentially so with that you have IP rights and you can use that so on and so forth but mine specifically is cc0 so it's in the like anybody can use it so there's literally no point in even me buying it I just kind of liked the picture disc yeah a lot of people buy nfts because they do enjoy the art and they want to collect but the majority of people buy nfts just to be completely honest is because they to sell it for more money to somebody else like that is that is like um and it's the same thing with crypto like I love crypto and that's that's a thing that I'm fully behind I Believe In The Narrative I believe in sovereignty of your assets and everything that comes with that and really just decentralized uncensorable money that's not limited by geographical borders all that good stuff um interesting but like most people are not in crypto for that reason most people are in crypto to play the casino to gamble and to make money and I think it's also really important as people in the crypto industry to recognize that that is a reality and in order to change that narrative we actually have to build things that people want unfortunately in the in the crypto space right now there's very very if not almost zero actual day-to-day use case like I believe the killer application of crypto is actually payments so like paying people um but unfortunately we don't use like like Bitcoin is is too expensive and too slow to be used as daily payments there are things called layer twos which um it's exactly what it sounds like it's like a layer on top of that handles transactions and then settles to the main chain and that can operate a lot faster but those have a lot of problems with them too they're not decentralized they they have issu so on and so forth so we've actually seen just in the past like two three months just crypto going absolutely crazy I mean Bitcoin cross $42,000 today um so people are like very euphoric right now in the crypto space but I always like recommend caution an optimistic level of caution just because dude this stuff is unbelievably volatile and and um but yeah I could talk about it all day um but so yeah I was going to say that real quick I wanted to make a quick joke which is I think asking how much somebody paid for their uh profile picture or whatever is probably like asking a woman how old she is you gota be careful yeah actually most of us have probably paid a lot more for our profile pictures than we want to admit um I mean it's a it's a tough space just like anything else that's new like the majority of things that came out in the last bull market so 20212 2002 22 specifically for nfts 99% of them are basically worth zero now which is the tough part here because you know I have like a fundamental belief in the technology and how it can be used but the majority of people again are using it just to speculate and to gamble and that's the uphill battle that we face in crypto um another thing is this idea and I want to ask you what you think about this so you have people probably trying to censor you or maybe maybe you don't um but I would assume that there's some people like either trying to discredit you or mass report your account censor you so and so forth so one of the big things in nfts or this industry we call Web 3 which is just the third essentially iteration of the internet um so like web one was like read and write like email that just basic communication Web Two essentially is um the creation of stuff on the internet so I look at that as the Inception of social media YouTube Instagram that whole era and then web 3 which is what we're in now and by the way these are just marketing terms but this is the way that I at least describe them um I look at it as essentially just owner own things on the interet which is it's fundament it's like hu it's a complete paradigm shift from where we were um but it's I mean do you use crypto at all do you own any I'm trying to trying to learn how it works so I'm I'm planning on actually getting some crypto here in next week or so but I'm I just figured out that you got to use a wallet and what some someone told me the wallet meta something or other but so I'm I'm a Noob on this guys I'm a big Noob you are you sound like a very intelligent person I just want to make another quick joke somebody in my chat said it's easy easier to believe in orbs than crypto and nfts but um what I wanted to say just to reverse that though too is that uh when you believe in something and you put your Val and you you know buy into it like that creates value for it right and that's something that's very powerful which is uh like I think the argument I like to use is like Tesla right is that um Tesla ended up having a lot of value because people believed in the idea of green energy and electric cars right and I think that that also plays into crypto which the reason why Bitcoin has value any money system is because people believe in it the reason why the price goes up is because there's Demand right just supply and demand so you made an investment and maybe for that one particular thing it didn't pay off but don't stop because of that you know there's always risk with investment and that's where you will find reward the more risk there is usually the more reward is possible so it's interesting with with crypto like and not to get too much off track I I want to get back to to the main thing here but but you know like a lot of the like even This n That I bought it was never foreign investment I've started to understand over time like while they can be in I look at it like this like one of the biggest misnomers with nfts in general was initially people believe that let's say you bought um an nft from a project it's essentially like owning a stake in the company right you're invested in the company but the example that I give is if you buy let's say I don't know how familiar you are with Pokemon but let's say you buy like a gen one like like shadowless Charizard right and you pay like PSA 10 and you pay half a million dollars for it you're not invested in Nintendo in the Pokemon company but you are invested in that product right so I think that's the biggest thing like people used to think with nfts that you're an investor in the company like but you're no you're not on the cap table you don't have traditional shareholder rights and things like that now I'm reading your comments in real time and by the way your stream is awesome for anybody in the room if they want to go check it out um a lot of people in the chat are like very skeptical I see people calling it calling me a scammer and this and that which is interesting why do you think think that people are so willing to believe certain like they're on board with everything that you're talking about but with crypto and like nfts and this and that they're like [ __ ] this guy like scammer this and that why do you think I think they're joking most of them I think are just joking a lot of these I I post about nfts and crypto in my uh Discord earlier and I got like a hundred responses you there is a lot of crossover between these two topics more uh and I think a lot of them are are just kind of joking about it but if I'm being honest in terms of why people do think that scam I think they look at as a Ponzi scheme right which is sure but so is any currency right the reason the only difference between regular currencies is that they're regular like a US dollar is backed by the US Treasury right so that in theory especially with banking that if you put your money in the bank you are FDIC insured up to 250,000 unless you are what was it Silicon Valley Bank or whatever those ones were that crashed that they bailed everybody out and Oprah and her billions of dollars um but the only then the difference is is like as we just talked about supply and demand the reason why Bitcoin has such a high value is because of the people that believe in it but this is very similar to a Ponzi scheme as well where uh the Ponzi scheme is idea is that the people who get in the ground floor are the ones who make all the money right but then everybody else who gets on gets less and less but it's not really a Ponzi scheme right because as you mentioned the value is in the ability to transfer currency to you know digital currency transfer so there is an inherent value to it um I think that part of the reason why people are skeptical too is that the idea that you can uh Farm it right that you can mine it and what does that lead to it leads to bot Farms that are hacking people's computers and using them to mind currency without them knowing uh and other Shady things in general um but then I think the big things that are the scam size of is like you know now we have a million different cryptocurrencies right and a lot of people in my chat go it's either Bitcoin or nothing right because they want to have it focused on something that is kind of a commodity that they can believe in versus one where it's like I'm going to start up Dodge Coin right although I actually think I I kind of like Dodge Coin but uh you know these other smaller ones it's the idea is it's trying up a pump and dump if you're the person who gets on the ground floor you can get the price to go up 100 times now you made a huge amount of money but then it becomes defunct because it's a meme stock or meme coin right um so that's what I think that why you would see that push back no I think that's all completely accurate I would agree with you in 99.9% of everything that's been deployed in the crypto space but like you mentioned before there really is a lot of cross here and I think it's important to be like a big reason for me in crypto is I'm super [ __ ] skeptical of the government I mean they're printing an insane amount of money I just inflation's going through the roof your money sitting in the bank is basically worth 10% Less year-over-year in terms of buying power it's unbelievable yep and the price of everything is going up I mean you can't even like I live in Los Angeles and if you make $130,000 a year that is still really not that much money like especially if you're living like Central LA now yep unbelievable right so again the thought process in there there's a lot of crossover too and I think it's important to be skeptical and ask as many questions as possible um when it comes to you know the things that you're working on whether it's crypto or AI whatever it might be this is not the time to stop asking questions and to accept everything as just the fundamental truth and I think the moment that we stop having these conversations especially like what we're doing here we're bringing two different communities together the moment stop having these conversations is really the moment we lose because like whether you agree or disagree with your theories or agree or disagree with crypto or like the existence of AGI whatever it might be that is really not the question um the question is can can you continue to communicate and I think that's the hardest part here because dude we all have like different backgrounds and different motivations and it's hard to tell who's and this is why I asked you like if you were profiting off this in any way because it's so hard to tell these days like what is the motivation of this person doing these things so I appreciate the cander and your answers um yeah no and I I've love this conversation I like how we're getting into economics because that's actually where my schooling and education came in I was a business major and did marketing and finance and international business as my majors and uh economics was always my uh bread and butter thing I like the most even going back to high school when I took higher level economics uh when I lived overseas so you know when you talk about stuff like the inflation and the buying power that's the stuff where especially in the most recent years um you know I I always wonder like how do younger people see this because we have not experienced this level of I would even call it hyperinflation that we've been seeing over the last three years where a lot of goods have increased like almost 100% in price over that three-year period where if you just think about the buying power especially for lower income earners this is devastating for people in lower incomes and even in your type of situation where like if you're making $130,000 in La like that's still like a huge blow because just living in Los Angeles I've lived there actually personally um you know rent alone can cost over $2,000 easily so you know the amount of after you take 50% taxes out right now you're down to 65,000 now you take your let's say let's just take 2,000 per month that's 24,000 now you're only left with like $ 30 some, for your entire year for discretionary spending right and you know if you've doubled the price that you have to pay for gas double the price you have to pay for all your food um that that impacts people hugely and this is now we're talking people that make 130,000 right now take it down to people that are near the poverty level right this is crippling for people out there so um I agree that I think that that might be the most strong reason to invest in crypto is that it's almost like gold where it's a stock or a a commodity that is going to increase as we fa as we face this inflation where our dollar is essentially being devalued um and that's probably part of the reason why I want to be you know investing a little a little bit of my money in I think diversity and Investments very important so uh you know I think that everything you said here tells me you're a very intelligent individual and I'm really appreciating this conversation no and I appreciate you I mean I made a tweet about this earlier today where I believe currently and the thing is like you don't have to believe that crypto is the future of Finance you don't even have to believe that it's truly ultrasound money and you don't have to even believe in any of the narratives of decentralization or crossb payments or anti-censorship but what you do have to believe and something we're thinking about is that it is more risky to not own a little bit of crypto than to own it like if you look at a risk verse reward because right now I look at it as way more risky to keep my money as 100% dollars in the bank than it is to say that for most people well I don't know keeping 10% of their money in crypto 5% 3% whatever it is I think the problem with the word crypto is exactly like the problem with the word AI it encompasses so many different things right and it's like what is crypto some people look at it as only Bitcoin everything else is basically a scam some people look at some of the big ones whatever it is and that's the thing like again with AI like we used to have all these conversations about AI the possibility of AGI whatever it might be and it's like what is AI are you looking at Mid Journey are you talking about Chad GPT are you talking about some sort of um you know Age of Ultron Escape into the internet this sort of thing so it's it becomes really difficult I mean I want to like ask you about AI here what is your personal stance I don't know if you were paying attention to everything that happened with open AI recently where Sam essentially got removed from the board and then they brought in all these other people and then you know three four days later he was hired again he's back as CEO they replace two members on the board and he essentially has full unprecedented control of the company and open AI was supposed to be just that right open it is not open anymore it is not it is no longer a nonprofit thing I mean it's a for-profit company and um I don't know it's kind of scary with uh and then speaking of crypto um I I spoke on worldcoin before I don't know if you're familiar familar with it but it's essentially another one of Sam alman's projects where they have these orbs they're literally called the orbs GP and these orbs they're physical and they have them all over the country right they they take them places all these different things and it was especially when World coin came out was a big social media moment uh in terms of whenever these would arrive at a different city right theyd post a picture of it it's like this shiny little sphere and what it does is it scans your iris and creates basically like a cryptographic hash and that is kind of stored some where not fully stored somewhere to be honest some of the technicalities of it go over my head but the point of it is verification of humans so that in a world dominated by AI we could tell who is a human and who is not on the internet but the scary part about this is the guy who's building the solution to the problem is also the guy who maybe inadvertedly created the problem too with open Ai and I don't think Sam alman's a bad guy I think a lot of people look at Sam and think he's this Overlord like Evil Genius sort of deal I don't see it as that at all I just see it as somebody who has their own motivations who believes in a certain way of living and is trying to create that reality I mean what would you say to all that yeah first thing I would say is that most of these tools that get developed for a good purpose end up being co-opted by the government for nefarious purposes so like open AI if we're talking about chat GPT the thing that scares me about it is being manipulated in the same way that fake news and fake fact checks get manipulated is that you know and people already proven this right depending on like how you answer the question will ask or how you ask the question will answer one way and then you'll be like no but that was incorrect and you'll find like little ways to like work arounds right to get it to answer you like uh correctly a lot of times it's politically correct Stuff Etc to me that's extremely dangerous I think it might have been Elon Musk as well is like what if you teach the AI how to lie or how you you know like these are the types of things that like we should be very very careful about doing um that's how I think we would end up bringing about our own ruin so in general uh what I always say about everything is that usually institutions are great when they start and then they start to get corrupted this is one thing that I have seen firsthand from I'm over 40 years old I have seen uh social media at its infancy specifically sites like redit where Reddit used to be a site where you could get the truth days before it was reported in the news and now it's almost the reverse where the news dictates what gets posted on Reddit it's basically all propaganda especially the big subreddits and the the default ones um and it's the opposite of what I used to be where it used to be is place where you would have free flow of information and ideas and now it's a place of heavy censorship and group think and hive mind mentality I think that you're going to have that same type of thing happen for open Ai and I hope it doesn't ever happen to cryptocurrency but even years ago I forecasted that the government would try to take over cryptocurrencies they would try to make their own or something like this to kind of shut this all down and I'm happy it hasn't happened yet and that's why I'm supportive of the types of stuff that you guys are doing and talking about because it takes power away from the government and puts it back into the hands of the people the thing is it it's happening in front of us so I don't know if you're familiar with binance they're the biggest crypto Exchange in the world by volume and it's not even close and the CEO CZ recently had to step down and binance was f4.3 billion doar because the Bas essentially they were allowing US citizens to use their platform and it wasn't done in a legal way and all these different things now the US government has like they've appointed an overseer for binance and all these they have like such control over this and also the United States has 207,000 Bitcoin as well as God knows how how much eth and then another thing here um and speaking of decentralization how much Bitcoin is that like ethereum itself which is supposed to be one of the most decentralized is not really that decentralized considering most of the validators run on AWS right so like a lot of the problems that we tried to come out and fix it initially are not being solved now um but speaking of social media do you think that like the research that you're doing and and the stories that you're reporting on um like none of this could have gotten out without crypto or not crypto without social media like how do you think that has played a part in everything that you're doing yeah and first I think when you said AWS you meant Amazon web services right is that what you're talking about yeah yeah so that's scary too because when you take this like who's hosting everybody now becomes centralized and one thing it can get corrupted as well I think you've seen some platforms completely get deplatformed uh same with like how um Apple kind of the Apple Web Store will like make it so apps aren't allowed on there like that that stuff scares me as well because I think it's uh rip for government influence and control uh with respect to social media it I would have been censored everywhere if it weren't for Elon Musk owning Twitter I'm 100% certain under old Twitter I would have been banned a long time ago we would never reached the point where we're at now uh even on Reddit my own subreddit got banned just permanently banned with no warning or anything like that um actually the same day that I revealed my full identity uh and my subreddit was called MH 370x there's another subreddit out there which is the referred to as the debunker subreddit because it's run by people who are debunkers who were trying to make the case go away and it's called alien or was it airliner Abduction 2014 like the most obscure name that you could ever come up with for a subreddit related to these videos um and so like Reddit I believe is the number one source of misinformation on the entire planet right now completely controlled by the government uh full government influence and anything that goes on there and on the news subet you commonly see articles about how many times Elon Musk is being sued how bad twitter is you see all these fake narratives everywhere from Bots uh throughout the comments um just one of the worst sources of information on the planet at the moment and but again like this type of stuff is important important because the government knows that these are the areas where you influence people and now they're moving into the realm of Tik Tok and Instagram right where these are starting to take over where it's videos and honestly it's to me it's like the dumbing down of civilization where we're all just basing our opinions based on whatever 30 second video that we've saw that's like taking the the idea that I'm just going to believe whatever's the headline on the top of Reddit and the top comment to its ultimate extreme of okay I'm just going to believe whatever stupid 30- second video I scroll past right and full disclosure I don't use Tik Tok and I only have an Instagram account because I've been posting like two videos there that are shorter but and I realize that the power of it but I can't stand most of social media because of these types of influences and controls I prefer a situation where you know ideas are floated freely and and people have control of what's being said and not the government I mean this is why X is the best platform for me personally um now I also stream on on Kick for similar reasons because twitch is just of yeah twitch ISO I mean it is Nightmare I mean they take 50% of what you make and that's pre-tax like what that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my entire life should takes less than 1% essentially and that's because they have to pay for stripe in the way that they they pay you out that's why I personally use kick um it's just really nice to get 98% of your subscriptions and so on and so forth now it does have a lot less functionality um on YouTube I like YouTube too I mean I use YouTube every single day but speaking of Reddit dude I went from Reddit being my favorite platform it's actually where I started my crypto journey to un like it's untolerable at this point exactly what you said go to the home page and every every single post feels like it was paid by somebody to be there and and you look at every comment and there's no dissenting or contrarian point of view everything is basically agreeing with whatever the top comment is and the moderators have unprecedented control they can just block any com com they want they can remove anybody from any subreddit it is UN it's unbelievable and it's just a shame because Reddit did not start that way Reddit was the home of free thinking for the longest time and it's just become just a cesspool of everybody arguing about the same things and in the same direction which I think I don't know it's a shame so you mentioned that you would have been censored anywhere else that you and I also agree with that um yeah because like anything that you start talking about that is uh like I I'll give you a personal anecdote I used to have a Tik Tok back in the day and I posted something that was essentially very critical of a specific government I don't want to say more more than that and I went from like every single one of my videos and I've been posting on there for a long time every single one my vide went from going like 10 20 30,000 views to one or two views basically almost instantly and I know some people could say oh maybe your content just sucked and maybe it did but it was just way too much of a coincidence that it happened and after that I was like D I just I can't do with these platforms anymore and I have an Instagram now I think I have like 50 followers on there and I use it just basically to look at Instagram shorts because I don't want to look at Tik Tok does have good content I have to admit there are things there that are that are fun and interesting um it's just a shame that it's it's basically spyware on everybody's phone at this point and we've just accepted that that's the reality um I don't know I mean what do you think about the direction that X has taken because some of things I really like that elon's done other things have been a little bit more critical I mean what are your thoughts yeah I mean I think that they need to beef the platform up like if I was Elon I would be trying to steal reddits market share right I would be trying to make forums that you can have that are integrated into the platform like just I would redo communities entirely and turn it into like a forum based structure so that and I would also move into the twitch area as well and kick area and I would allow streaming and all those platforms as well that are on here like they do have some kind of weird streaming thing that I can't even figure out how to make it work because I think that what Elon mus has done where he's you know if you look at the Twitter files he's ripped it back from the government control you know even twitch 100% is under government control you have to be careful what you say or they will deplatform you and a heartbeat um I'm going to probably look into a kick a little bit but the reason why I'm on YouTube and I'm surprised I haven't been banned off YouTube yet is uh is because I need to be able to have a place to upload like large content and stuff like that right versus I I think uh wasn't train wreck TV one of the guys that started kick he broke away from twitch because they banned gambling right and he was a big gambling streamer I think um so yeah I think that all these things are like you look at it and it's it's government control government censorship government laws that are causing these things to happen and I will always flow with wherever the least amount of censorship and control is because that's where you're going to find the truth which is what I value the most in this world potentially and just like you said with Reddit I could not agree more and that's why I think that when we look at Twitter now we've come to a point where Twitter used to be the spot where people would make the joke about Twitter isn't real life but actually I would argue that now Twitter is the closest to real life out of any of the social media platforms the big ones at least um where you know Reddit is the one that now is not real life anymore and this is why I call it redditor brain where this has happened to me a couple times where podcasters that I had me on they thought they were going to look like Heroes for trying to chop me down and they get they're so confused when they put out their content and they realize they're getting attacked by everybody because they have no understanding of what real people are like anymore they think the world is Reddit and that everybody's going to agree with them and then when they get outside of Reddit they go is this all Bots attacking me nope nope that's just real people you're the one who's been dealing with the Bots and you're a complete Echo chamber of uh homogeneous ideas right and on Reddit on Twitter like people think it's toxic or whatever but it's just it's real people man it's real people speaking their real emotions and real beliefs you know just because you don't like what people say doesn't mean that it's not out there you know so uh I think I like the way that Twitter is going um but I would like it if you know it doesn't if it's not that I think Twitter's alienating people I think it's the views then the propaganda that is said about Twitter alienates people from it um and that's what I would like you know if we could stop that if the government can stop trying to claim that Elon Musk is the worst human being on the earth and I I was never like a huge supporter of Elon Musk but they managed to turn the people that love Elon Musk into people that hate him within like a year which I'm just like man how can you guys not see this this is all just propaganda like you guys loved him a year ago and now he's like the worst thing in the world because what he bought a social media platform come on well I think it here's the thing X or Twitter whatever you want to call I'm I'm having a hard time calling it X but just because of what Twitter was and what x is now and I think I'm just trying to move to X but tweets and and tweeting still such a part of my vernacular so it's hard um but I think X has ripped the veil from the eyes of people on what social media can be because now we just see everything for the most part that I don't think the users of this platform even if this platform fails would tolerate going back to another platform and this is why in crypto we talk a lot about decentralized social media so those things like lens protocol and um even like blue sky with what Jack dorsy subcribers this I'm not fully convinced that those things are there yet I think it's going to take some time before they become really used so we're going to have to see but you mentioned something about Elon I think is so important he went from being absolutely loved he's releasing flamethrowers and his own tequila everyone's buying it everyone's loving it and now they've made it to be where essentially if you're an Elon supporter they look at you as almost y sometimes like like a right-wing Zealot like it's kind of bizarre what this what they've made it seem and um and even like with recently they've like made him out as like an anti semi like he's like promoting all this like anti-Semitism with the advertisements when it's just it's factually false like it's just not real and um I don't know you saw this clip recently that went super viral where he told everyone to go [ __ ] themselves and a lot of people are heavily in support of this this is the first time that someone on that level is basically told these massive entities to to go [ __ ] themselves now it is risky because he even mentioned in that interview that if those advertisers all of them continue to refuse advertising on on this platform it could kill the company and it probably would kill the company so that is where it's tough It's like yeah we want this freedom and we don't want to be blackmailed and extorted but at the same time we want the platform to exist so I think unless they can find another way to monetize it's going to be yeah it's going to be Rough Waters but again this is why there's so just kind of like some closing thoughts here um this is why all of this stuff has so much crossover because you got to keep the conversations going you got to continue to ask questions and luckily this platform allows us to do it um I would not be not even just this space that we're hosting here I mean so many of the spaces that we talk U that we host and talk in I would not be comfortable hosting them on a different platform for the most part um not that we're talking about some like overly controversial things but still the freedom that we have here is unbelievable and another Testament to the platform is you and I have never interacted would have probably never interacted but because of this platform we're able to host this conversation discussion on all these different things and that to me is like the true utility of X so dude I [ __ ] appreciate you thank you so much for coming to the space is there any final things that you want to leave the audience with anything you want to pin up to the top and redirect them too yeah I just want to say this is this has really been awesome honestly this has been one of the best spaces ever I want to agree with lot some of the comments you guys just mentioned as well which is um I think the the whole anti-semite thing is ridiculous against Elon mus I mean how are people really falling for this man people really think he's an anti-semite come on guys um but yeah I think that the discussion here has been great I think that the people that are supporting with all the verification badges I mean look how many verification PE people we have in this space huge amount that's how we keep this free right we keep this platform free as we support it that's the part of the reason why I I did it as well in addition to increase my reach but also just to support the platform because I if you support Free Speech we can see that they are trying to shut it down right and this case would never be as far without this platform right now um and I I think it's awesome too that we are able to connect like this and have this kind of space um I'm actually going to have one as well not to get political but with uh Jacob Chanley who is uh unaffectionate known as the qon shaman I think he needs a rebranding um and I don't think I could have that space on like YouTube like somebody told me that they did an interview with him on YouTube and they got they got their Channel struck down because of it and it's like well on on on Twitter here I can I can talk to him right and this is a guy that he spent his time in prison right like he spent his time it's not like he didn't spend his time in prison right and they're still trying to censor him afterwards so the free flow of information I just think is is so important and even with crypto like I you think that you you're going to find that crypto gets censored everywhere else like I've noticed there's so much discussion of crypto a lot of the spaces that I see are crypto spaces so I just want to appreciate you leap for hosting this and having us and having this awesome discussion where we talked a little bit about MH370 and then you know talked a little bit about crypto I learned a lot about it and uh I think that people should definitely follow you as well if they're interested in crypto you are clearly a very intelligent person that knows a lot about it man so thank you for having this with me no I appreciate you and please everybody follow Ashton I do want to I completely skip my mind here um if you're up for it because I we have a bunch of requests and and people are sending me messages they have questions for you so we can do this another night if you're if it's if we've gone too long tonight but if you're down for it um I could let a few people up from the from the audience like let's do it maybe have questions let's let's pull some people I can go for another 15 20 minutes or so or just's you know but people try to keep your questions short and brief you know no life stories um stuff like that no I 100% agree so also just complete FYI our spaces are usually minimum like four to six hours every single time so we're probably going to run for like another two three hours I just didn't want to take too much of your time we actually used to do like seven to eight hours seven days a week I did that for over a year and it was it was a bad I mean it was a great idea but it was also a bad idea so we've scaled it back to like four to six hours now which is a lot more palatable um but look I'm G to reset this space here welcome everybody to aliens rugged by the way Ashton rugged is a term in the you might already know it but it's a term in the like the crypto space nft space where someone essentially they pulled the rug out from underneath you right they steal your money they scam you whatever it is but term rugged has become a part of yeah just like our day-to-day wordage like if I if Uber Eats delivers me the wrong food I'm like [ __ ] Uber Eats just rugged me so we just use this word all the time and it's kind of become our thing with the title so welcome everybody to aliens rugged um featuring Ashton if you'd like to come up on stage please click that request button in the bottom leftand corner would love to get some questions from the room and see what people thinking a little bit of a temperature check also if you're enjoying the conversation click that button in the bottom right hand corner give it a like comment or a retweet it is the best and only way to support the space as well because we do not qualify for monetization because spaces don't count towards Impressions Elon if you're listening to this you need to fix that but look we have some requests I'll bring some people up on stage but would' love to get some uh questions from the room so by the way everybody please be respectful and keep your question short and concise all that good stuff um let's bring some up there we go okay we're GNA go NB first NB what's your question what do you think yeah I want to start by saying shout out to Professor Paul uh an orb coin 2024 it's going to take over the crypto scene I do have a serious question for Ashton um so when you first had an inclination that something was up with MH370 did it affect your your comfort with flying I guess is how I would say it like were you able to to fly comfortably or or was there bit of a period where you like were like H maybe I should you know feel it out and get a better idea yeah good question people are actually asking me in the chat in my own chat earlier and I forgot to bring this up but um yeah I've always been afraid of flying actually and that's part of the reason why like I look at when like there's plane crashes I kind of like look into them not like I have for this but um so the way this kind of went down was at first I was afraid that of just like flying in general when you look at these videos cuz you're like oh man my plane could get orbed right right and then I thought oh when we realized it was the government I got even more scared cuz I'm actually less afraid of aliens orb my plane than I am of the government orbe my plane but at least then like they'd have to have a reason to do it right so for me I I I've flown a few times and I've been like oh man I hope they don't order me on this flight um but more so than that I'm actually afraid of lithium ion batteries in the plane now these lithium ion batteries I couldn't believe how dangerous they are and once I realized that this is probably what happened to the plane it was this emergency event based on these 221 kogs of lium batteries I start seeing it everywhere it's like when you wake up and you start like you start notice it everywhere we're like I'm mailing a letter just a letter like when I was made my letter to Congress they're like you have to sign this thing that says there's no lithium ion batteries in your letter I'm like it's a freaking letter man like that's how dangerous these things are I'm getting on the airplane you check your bag are there any lithium ion batteries in your bag I'm sitting here praying that nobody's got a lithium ion battery and their checked luggage because this is why they made them outlawed in in the cargo Baye because nobody's down there looking man so if this fire is starting down there there's no one like monitoring it so like now when I fly I'm like I want to like ask everybody when I get on like hey you didn't put any lithium ion batteries in your in your luggage right uh so I'm not any more afraid than I was before I'm just more cognizant of all the dangers now I guess and I've flown like three or four times but honestly I hate flying and I really don't want to and I definitely don't want to fly anywhere very far but I don't think any of you guys should be more afraid of flying than before just please no lithium ion batteries in your in your luggage all right what one more do you think the people who were orbed on the plane do you think they realized they were orbed that's a tough question I don't think they had any idea was coming for sure um and some people even argue like there might have been weird effects to them like I I don't know what going under undergoing Quantum they call it macroscopic phase conjugation or macroscopic Quantum uh coherence like I don't know what that would do to like a living being um and especially if there's not like something shielding them from the effects uh you know it could have weird stuff could happen to them um and then we start to talk about stuff like string theory and uh what's the other one called where uh like the Fruit of the Loom thing I forget uh God it's on the tip of my tongue but like you know we might be talk living in like a string theory type situation where there's alternate dimensions and different realities going on so you know basically what I'll say is that I've kept my mind open to everything and I try to speculate on as little as I can but I'm always down to give my opinion so I can't say exactly what happened in the passengers unfortunately thanks NB great questions also I'm looking at your chat Ashton it this just shows the important of having a live chat during like it's so much entertain so much more entertaining just watching Everybody comment in real time Twitter really needs to to implement that um but look I want to thr quickly over to Sonic Sonic gravity podcast great to have you up here what's your question what do you think hey boss hey ashon it's it's good to hear you talk man I mean like dude you're just getting so polished dude it's just hearing you is like next level man it's really cool I I appreciate it um one thing that I had never heard you say before did I I just wanted to check you said that the there were a like an extremely high number of Engineers and like technical folks that were passengers on that plane is that right yeah the freescale semiconductor thing check out I think it's like one of my most recent posts before these space post that I made where we found this interview from this guy I think his name was Sam uh Michael Harris or something like that and there there's these 20 free scale semiconductor Engineers on board This Plane scientists whatever you want to think of them as which is way too many we've been able to connect this company directly to the technology pretty much on this plane and then we see this interview I think it was last night where we were watching on my stream and we're watching it it's just blowing my mind because they're interviewing this guy that used to work for Motorola in 2004 when the when free scale split off from Motorola and he's talking about the technology being the main reason why they split off they had these Advanced chips that they're working on and like motor roll is a cell phone company and it didn't really make sense so they split it off in this other company and then at the end he's just like he doesn't even get asked he's like can I just tell you what I think happened to the plane my my silly far out there idea he's like yeah I think it like fell into a portal you're like what what this is like as weird as the Don Lemon thing where Don lemon's on CNN going everybody's talking about black holes and nobody's talking about black holes what are you talking about man all right now you know I told when we talked before I said I think they it was how the portal works and that they actually slipped into it like a different time well if you think about got a lot if they're doing this technology and it's all these engineers and stuff I really you know I think that we're an exoplanet colony of more evolved humans right and so like if you think about it it could be a bunch of folks who did some work and then you know kind of planting the seeds for this technology boom that we're having and we just had fusion and all these other things are happening and then they're like okay we've planted all these seeds we sort of like you know kind of put all these starter ideas in people's heads about you know crypto or I don't know whatever else what other Technologies and then and then they go back to their time you see what I mean like maybe maybe they came here to kind of kick us in the ass kind of get us through this this Quantum uh quandry we have where we can't figure out how you know unification happens and then so they kind of plant some seeds around and then go home trying to kind of get us over the hump you know what I mean yeah I mean it could be I'm not a huge fan of the um future human hypothesis just because I think it's hard to travel back in time I you definitely can travel forward in time but if there is string theory is possible and we have different timelines and multi-dimensions then absolutely it could be a thing and uh I still forget the name of the Fruit of the Loom thing though but a lot of people argue like well there was always a cornucopia in Fruit of the Loom I'm actually one of those people like I swear I saw the corn copia and the Fruit of the Loom and somehow like how do you like erase people's memory or past or alternate or alternate it you know so are you like many worlds yeah yeah like that and so if that's true then sure you know and I'm just watching the Mike Harris thing again he's just like this guy's a straight face total straight face just going I think somebody opened an interdimensional portal what what man this guy's like a guy who worked at Motorola he's like an engineer like what the hell man I just I don't know it's weird it's like he's talk like I don't know if you guys played uh the game uh Assassin's Creed but I'm just going to spoil it for you guys the first one I mean it's like 20 years old now at the end of Assassin's Creed like all of a sudden like you unlock this advanced technology with this apple and then she's just talking to you the gamer right like that's what I feel like when I'm this guy's talking it's like he's talking to us right now in the future like 14 years or 10 years later it's super weird man so I don't know oh Mandela effect is the name of the uh effect the Mandela effect where like Sketchers was supposedly spelled with a K and all this stuff so I don't know man I'm at the point where I'm so far on the rabbit hole like I can't rule anything out anymore wait thanks for letting me talk it's really great to hear from you again and I'm following you leap so uh thanks for letting me speak no thank you Dro you a follow as well and Ashton what the hell man I was eventually gonna play Assassin's Creed 1 okay 2025 but you ruined it for me ruined um okay look we'll go over to emo emo good to see you what's your question what do you think what's up so sorry I missed the first half of the space but I was wondering like tldr do you think happened to the Malaysian Airline yeah so the very Bridge version is that uh lithium ion battery fire ignited which is what made the plane go dark there's a wired article that even argues during an electrical fire that they would have pulled the buses that makes the plane go dark to try to figure out what circuit was damaged by the fire the lithium ion battery fire helps explain why it's not just an electrical fire because it's a much bigger fire and bigger explosion that could have done damage to the plane but not potentially enough to destroy it at that moment and then the plane flies for an hour and 20 minutes goes directly to panang airport which is the closest airport to go to an emergency and then for some reason it can't land we don't know exactly why um but the Malaysian Minister of Defense there's this interview out there with him where he's the sketchiest liar in the world like we watch it like basically once a week because it's like you might as well just play it on Saturday Night Live how bad this guy's a liar um and then the plane revus and the nicar islands uh where there's witness who sees a glowing orange because of the chemical reaction with the fire extinguishing devices trying to put out the fire for over an hour and the US government deploys these orbs they're filming the camera or filming the plane before the orbs even appear with a satellite uh or there looking at with the cber system this is a satellite system and they are have this drone looking at it which can't catch up to the plane had to have intercepted it and it's like using this super highly Advanced Electro IR camera and it's got this thermal layer added over the top and we see the plane get teleported for a lack of a better term um the scientific explanation is it's called Uh macroscopic phase conjugation that the state of the plane is changing and the analogies there's a couple of good analogies that we can use um one is that it's going from a Quant a macro state to a Quantum State and therefore con contain the properties of quantum where Quantum objects can have um uh uh probabilistic points in time as opposed to deterministic point in time but the other point the other thing that's important is that it's having its mass reduced by being displaced from space time and if you reduce your mass to zero now you are not affected by gravity but more importantly you can move at very high speeds the reason why we can't move the speed of light is The more mass you have the more energy it takes as you approach the speed of light to to accelerate but if you have zero mass then you not only can you go to the speed of light but you can go to the speed of light with very little energy like pushing a feather now at that point and here's another analogy that I would help you guys to understand it is that do you ever wonder why an ant can move so fast despite the fact it's so tiny so relative to its size it looks like it's moving super fast same with a fly flies are very tiny but they move around really fast that's why it's so hard to swat a fly right well the answer is because the less Mass the faster your time flows so for something that has less Mass its time is moving faster it's experiencing time at a higher rate which allows it to move even faster so the same concept applies to the plane the less mass that you have the faster it's able to go The more mass the harder it is to travel at higher rates of speed um so that's just a couple analogies for you that I think well does that answer your question on what happened to the plane that's my like 30 second how scientific is this versus like conspiracy theory yeah this is probably the most scientific explanation of any conspiracy theory that's out there in my opinion I think that I've been talking to engineers and physicists and scientists who when they saw these videos they reach out to me and they're like hey like you know they're in my replies they're sending me hints they're wanting me to do podcasts with them I created my own podcast just for the sole purpose of going through the science and understanding the science and my own understanding has gone from a point where I thought this was an Annihilation event to now realizing it's a teleportation event to where I used to call it a wormhole where now I'm calling it macroscopic phase conjugation after initially call a teleportation to what yeah to another Point somewhere so they're calling me Ashton 4 orbs because we see three orbs in the videos but the strongest Theory right now is there's a fourth orb that's entangled to the other three orbs and it's like pulling a rubber band and then you let go of it and all of a sudden it's going to slingshot back to its original location and that's what the best explanation right now that we understand is that's what's Happening Here is there's a fourth orb could be anywhere on the planet we think it's probably somewhere by the males just because there's some circumstantial evidence uh but that when this when the orbs converge and I I put the videos in the uh I don't know if I put them in the nest but they're in the replies if you watch the thermal one the colored one uh there's a slow-mo near the end of it watch the slow-mo the orbs converge on the plane in the last moment and what they're doing is they're actually inducing The Singularity when they do that it's almost like if you were to take two magnets and try to jam them together that are opposite polarity you're going to have this really strong effect now imagine that times a million with three that are all doing that at once it's inducing this Singularity it's causing this phase uh State change which is then in theory entangling having this entanglement happen where the orbs are and the plane all of them at once are going to wherever the other orb is anywhere in SpaceTime so it's essentially fast they call it subluminal uh travel which is just is faster than the speed of light and that's essentially what teleportation is wait so why didn't we hear that they went to the Malaysia whatever to that airport I've never heard of that mfer um look before we go we we just spent like two and a half hours basically going through every single one of these questions that that you're about to ask so um I want to be respectful to the other people on the stage and to Ashton's time so you can get to the other questions go back and listen to space mfer all the question I I asked him everything you could possibly imagine love you emo look we're going over to Old Shu old Sho what's up old Sho you're up can't hear you sorry about that I was muted um you guys are doing great it's amazing show really interesting intersection between those two Realms and I think they have more to do with each other than a lot of people might imagine um the so I don't know if you see my avatar it's the it's that old photo from the Battle of Los Angeles in 1942 um and then there's you know other times like the UFOs over Washington in 1952 uh this has been going on for a long time and and breakout civilizations have happened before and they're trying to happen again they're trying to happen all the time and the truth is that the that the that certain of these Technologies are like dearly guarded by those who have them and they're always dearly guarded and that's what's happening here I think you need to get in touch with the disclosure people Ashton this is inconvertible proof like we haven't seen before I have a friend um I have a really strange intersection with a friend who flies um kind of highspeed surveillance craft for the military and I showed him this video and he says it's legit he's like that's what we see that's how we see it he can't find a fault in it it looks absolutely perfect to him so this is proof and that's why you're getting pushed back from the corridor clowns and everybody else who is either an idiot or compromised in some way because this is dangerous information to get out to the public and I and I'm talking about the CIA and when I talked to you the last time Ash and I'm serious serious you got to be careful people disappear but this is where you're at and you need to like really what you need to do is have this evidence corroborated like where's where's this guy where's the leaker because he needs to come forward if he's still alive and I think more people that's really the answer you can't you can't get to the truth by going through idiot debunkers because they're going to talk to the idiot masses who are also going to believe this like you need to go to the source yeah that's my no man thanks Shu I appreciate you man I think I've seen you in a chat too or in my uh um stream chat as well um n man I I've I've thought through all that stuff especially the dangers I think you're 100% right that the dangers are there I I am not joking around when I say I don't think I'm going to live to die of old age but that's just the reality of someone having to take the hit you know if the leaker was willing to go to prison for six years over these then I think it feels feel like it's the least I could do to offer it and I can't think of any more noble cause than to try to get to the truth of the plane for the families as well as to get this technology out there I think I've already done so much damage to let's just call them the Spooks and the people trying to hide this stuff and this technology just by being able to have the conversation and reach as many open I think they're afraid yeah I think they've never seen anything like this I don't think they've ever seen anything like this where somebody actually knows how to use social media almost as well as they do and to reach people on a human level like we're doing now in this space Etc and I don't think they know how to deal with it either like if they were to take me out right now like what's going to happen people are going to be like what the hell happened to Ashton blah blah blah right like they have to be careful about how they interact with this situation right now and that's why part of the reason is the most the biggest thing I'm afraid of potentially is that the thing going cold the case going cold because then I can disappear right and you know they can make it seem like it's natural or whatever um that's why I think you need to get this on the dockets in Congress as as something to look at in a skiff you know with other people who know this technology because we're looking at military technology that can be corroborated in those hallad Halls and almost nowhere else yeah and uh I'm trying man I'm trying what I'll say is I'm trying to back door into discussions with various congressmen at the moment I've got some powerful friends and allies that I've started to developed now that have those kind of connections but um they're afraid too good luck and like I said I'm praying for you Ashton for real I appreciate it man and um the the leaker like if we could get the leaker to come forth and I'm I'm sure it's this guy now right like I've been yelling this guy's name for a month at least two months right if he wasn't the guy he wouldn't reaching out to me be like dude stop saying my name right like I'm surprised he still didn't say it even though it is him right um so yeah I mean we need him to come forward but the problem is like if he does like he's G to get arrested and I'll say this because I've already said it I haven't said it many times but we were able to find we were able to get in touch with him uh but not like in contact with him but I called called a number which I'm like sure is his number and somebody picked up and hung up right away and was like that was really weird and I sent a messag to me like dude if you come out just give me a sign anything like my my followers would like do anything for this guy I would take a bullet for this guy frankly I mean I might be going out anyway right so um yeah we need this guy to be protected and that's why I tell people do not go looking for him please please please because you're just going to put him in danger um and unless you're the media well thanks for the work you're doing Ashton I'll let no yeah I appreciate it man so I think that's about it on it but for the most part we need him to come out this is why I tell people that we need the President Biden or whoever's president in the future to Pardon this guy that might be one of the only ways where he can speak freely because then he won't be uh Bound by his plea AR plea deal anymore if that happens and all this comes out boy we are in for a new future my friends thanks U really appreciate the question um I want to go over to I think we got two more um left is it George is it Jorge uh I appreciate you coming up and raising your hand what's going on what do you think yeah look I have listened to Ashton before and I really really enjoy what you're doing Ashton I think it's a it's amazing what you're doing I have a a bit of a philosophical question for you if if you get to a stage where you're very close to finding out what it is and uh and you get offered the opportunity to really find out what it is and but they tell you you have to go through through it I can't tell you you're not going to die I can't tell you what's going to happen next but this is your your opportunity would you take it and uh and then just another very simple question that you can answer first are you famous enough so people recognize you on the streets these days that's a good one no nobody's recognized me yet I'm surprised I've actually had people message me and say that they've been walking on like the Streets of London and they heard somebody mention in the case in my name and that they sent me a message about it I had another person say that they were at their office and their coworker brought it up and mentioned it but still nobody on the street has uh recognized me yet which I'm sure it'll happen one day but uh not yet and I kind of like it that way come come to Melbourne Australia and I'll shake your head okay yeah I will say too that kim.com gave me an out he told me that if the government comes after me how how I can flee the country and go stay with him so I do have a potentially and he's not joking either when he was mentioning it to me so I have a potential place where I can go in ter of what comes next um yeah I don't know I can't see the future I can't say what exactly what's going to happen I think that some of the bigger podcasters either uh like a lot of people here initially can't believe it to be real or might even be told by the government not to bring it up some people as well might even think that it's worth it to keep it secret because it's just that big like we've talked through the implications on this space now you guys know the implications and some of them might be saying like yeah I'd rather just keep this secret it's too dangerous right I put the poll up several times about 20% or more of the people think that okay if this is kind of Doomsday technology that a terrorist could blow up the planet that we should not reveal it right so um I don't know what's going to happen next you know I went on Alex Jones we had a good one talk there's other people I definitely would like to talk to that are out there huge platforms I am not going to discriminate on anyone I don't care if it's Russell Brand who people are hating on I don't care if it's Andrew Tate who people are hating on I will talk to them I just want to get the information out there as many people as possible because Texs me the more people that know about it then the less it matters that I'm you know still around good questions for I appreciate you man who's next oh sorry I was there you go I was M Sonic go ahead hey Ashton uh hey thanks again uh hey so I'm a retired army Jag and so that's like a lawyer so we've done the prosecutions and defense and stuff like that if if this guy was convicted was he convicted at a court marshall yeah court marshall so um you can foyer that record of trial oh so I did I did did I not mention this I Foy the fre the FBI and NCIS and the FBI still hasn't responded yet um the NCIS let me pull it up real quick where is it uh should be right around here basically they responded oh here it is official respond resp okay so Mr Forbes this responds to your November 2nd 2023 Freedom of Information request seeking the copy of the naval crime Investigation Services NCIS investigation concerning Edward C Lyn we received your request on November 2nd for your reference your number is blah blah blah uh search of our Collective databases investig is identified one 2014 investigation response to your request we have carefully reviewed the documents and decided to withhold them in total under Foya exemption one which lists some number exemption one protects of disclosure of information about quote unquote matters specifically authorized under the criteria established by the executive order to be kept secret in the interest of National Defense or foreign policy quote unquote okay so that is the NCIS that's the cops that's the Navy cops investigation but when this guy went to trial I'm I'm I'm a former trial counsel I'm also an appell defender or for I'm retired but but whenever they went to trial there's a Verbatim recording transcript of everything that was said during the trial and that's going to be I'll find out I'll find out where the Navy's records of trial are kept but that's not the same as the criminal investigation so you would get like the prosecutor introducing the evidence yep you know everything that the judge said everything that both the parties said now that that that file that if you get the paper copy I mean it could be a stack like you know I mean it could be like a foot high of just pages of of you know why this is important because one one of the clutch pieces of evidence that ties this guy to the videos is that the defense argued that the classified information in question is available on the internet if there's a direct quote that says anything about the classified information being videos it would be a Smoking Gun right the record of trial the record of trial will have that verbatim transcript of everything that was said during the trial so that's not you w get that from NCIS that's like I'm not I I was in the Army so yeah I'll find out where where you know what organization has the Navy records of trial let me see if I know somebody who can find that out and then I'll DM you with it yeah sure following you so you can DM me okay all right but yeah so and I'm actually gonna probably do some more foyers as well to people because I'm starting to think of other ways to foyer information like there's got to be something that we can get that will you know prove this thing that's out there but man every single foyer request has been basically denied that I put in I put in one early the nro which is the national reconnaissance office that controls a satellite Ates about MH370 and USA 229 which is a satellite just staring down there and that was like 3 months ago and they still they like rejected it right away saying it's going to take longer than 20 days and now it's like three months later I still haven't heard anything like I feel like I'm not going to get anything for like 10 years well that guy's attorney also has a copy because you have to send a cop the the copy of the record of trial has to go to the attorney and they have to authenticate it I called the attorney actually so I spoke to the clerk there on a Saturday they called me back on a Sunday and then I talked to her for like an hour she ended up following me on Twitter she told me I told her like the whole case story I told her like you guys got to get this guy to come out people are going to come after him blah blah blah and uh the lawyer didn't call me back but the next day I got this thing about this seminar that they did like the week before two weeks before where it was like the implications of the new UAP whistleblower law for people that have been Court Marshal and I'm like whoa this is weird like is this the sign that they sent me or they just sign me up for their marketing without telling you yeah I I don't want to read too much into it cuz I have got a couple other emails from them in the last like two months since this happened but like that was weird to get that and I don't think that the lawyer can say anything because like I think the plea deal probably prevents them from saying anything either well I doubt that anybody would have thought to say anything about keeping the record of trial secret you might ask them if you can have a cop now we're talking about it they're going to hide it right but they're listening right now but yeah copy their record trial yeah I wrote that down on my notes Here cool thanks man thanks sir I appreciate it any help that you guys come up with it definitely helps I'm glad I I can hear the passion in your guys' voices as well which uh you know gives me hope thanks Sonic really appreciate the question and Ashton thank you for doing the Q&A I really appreciate you coming to the space and initially I thought we were just going to do 30 45 minutes we ended up doing two hours um we probably could have done another four so thank you so much again final words for for the people listening in the room here um I think that's oh boy here's the thing we can change the circumstances of billions of people on this planet the purpose the reason why I'm driven by this is that all the stuff that we've talked about has been related to the fact there's so much division in this world right now uh amongst everything and I think that social media is a big reason for it and these videos have a opportunity to bring us common purpose common goal uh a situation where we can make our world better potentially even have stuff like World Peace come about um and unify as one and I think that that's what I want to have happen from these videos so you know if you find this stuff compelling you know um feel free to follow me uh and and follow along with the case but more importantly like get the evidence out there the reason why I make the evidence publicly available I had it pinned to my profile for the longest time is so that people can spread it themselves even come with your own stories if you want I just want the evidence to be out there so people see it when people reply and they say well what about the debris that they found this is the most common question that you can just copy and paste the part what about the debris that you can answer the questions too so it's not just about me me I want to empower everybody else um so thank you guys all for um you know listening to the evidence with an open mind thank you Le leap for hosting this and us having an awesome conversation I've enjoyed the hell out of this conversation so thank you guys very much man thank you I've enjoyed it as well and feel free to come to the space anytime and just you know come chill come chat we're here every single night and to all the new people listening uh tonight thank you guys so much everybody in your stream I've been reading the comments and they've been honestly nothing but positive for the past couple hours so thank you to you guys as well and to the people listening now we're going to shift into our traditional spaces format which means no format and we're just gonna talk about crypto everything that's happened to blow who let this international DJ up here I oh my I'll say this there's been a lot happening in the crypto Market here's the thing about International DJs they think they can do anything they want ashon thank you so much really appreciate you have a great rest of your night look I want to reset the space quickly before we get into it okay I'm going to drop out there okay awesome guys that was a sweet space huh guys how sweet was that how sweet was that guys that was pretty awesome guys I'm going to drop here in a minute but we're just going to do a five minute decompress from that yeah we go hard guys uh the one thing I didn't say there that I want to say to you guys is we have the best community out there by far uh you guys are awesome honestly the engagement in this chat today was huge it was like 10 times higher than normal that we normally have um that was awesome definitely appreciate you guys appreciate you guys being here and doing all this um and you know we didn't do much content today but I've got a whole list you guys think that Lex any of these messages are Lex guys and what if one of these messages is Lex guys Lex please baby boo please and I'm just joking guys you know I'm not uh I'm not trying to beg or whatever we're trying to go on whoever but I I do would love to talk to Lex that that would be amazing um we do have a huge amount of evidence still that we have to roll through Let's see we did we're going to eventually probably tomorrow we're going to go through the Drone uh evidence where the Drone was deployed from I've still got that up ready to go uh right here we made this the other day so uh we got that going we Let's see we oh we I was on a space earlier today I started reaching out to some of the uip community trying to make amends with some of them because I think we've reached a point where we don't need to be at odds with a lot of these people um we've gotten so huge as well that you know I think that the UAP Community us have the similar goals there's no reason we should be fighting against one another and I really think that the Spooks the Spooks CIA here has been probably trying to use us against one another I mean the more division that there is the better it is for the enemy the more we unify the better it is for us so I'm going to do my best to make amends with as many people as we can uh we already did the Mike Harris interview uh is qar on in here he is we looked in the X Force but it's only for military people I actually almost signed up on it I actually almost signed up yeah the space with UFO Shane was really good I want to shout out to UFO Shane we don't necessarily see eye to ey but I want to live in a world where even if I disagree with somebody that we would fight to the death to for their right to say what they want to believe in is that the right term I think it is oh and then we're also going to do the NC boy stuff where NC boy found that there's only two cell phone calls this actually got confirmed by Victor today I had an argument with Victor today and Victor I said why is there only two phone calls to the plane right how does that make any sense why would they only call to the airplane twice makes no sense if this plane was hijacked or Pilot suicide they would have called the plane more than twice and even Victor is like oh yeah that's that's criticism on the Malaysian government and why did the 2315 knock get graft onto the Ping routes so qar give me some more clues on terms of what you're trying to get me to do all I don't know what's going on with qar on but I like you and if I'm supposed to join the X Force then you got you got to give me some more information on that for sure um also we're going to reach out to Richard Dolan where's my stuff let me make this notes as well we had oh we had uh keemstar followed us today keemstar we got the legend the legend keemstar has been following us so we gotta do something for keemstar probably tomorrow I'm probably not going to do any more post tonight I'm just too tired and uh Timothy Al what's his last name alar damn I forget his last last name jeez for some reason I'm struggling sorry Timothy but I want to reach out to both of them and DMS probably um because they're legit and I want to talk to them and just see what their opinions are and then oh yeah we've also got this thing where the mouse changes colors in the background pretty weird so we've got a lot of stuff out there I am also going to have a space on Wednesday uh at 5 o'clock Eastern time with uh uh Jake X Shaman uh Jake X Shaman the America Shaman so we're going to be reaching out to another different audience there it is alberino thank you very much so we're going to reach out to another audience we're going to reach out to I guess we'll call them the Maga audience uh but really the people that believe in uh Free Speech free expression Equal justice and the uh the shaman actually knows a lot about ufology so I think it's it might be a little bit of wild space but I think it'll be fun I I like these crossover spaces a lot I like these crossover spaces a lot the one we had today was amazing so if we do more stuff like that I think that'll be awesome for reaching out to other communities and stuff like that as well so going to be good um book of Nakamoto last two chapters okay we'll write it down we'll write it down for you and I am researching about the CIA as well I think we should try to pull some of these CIA agents out into the light I'm a little afraid that this might force their their hand if we piss them off too much but it may help if we expose who some of these CIA agents are these Spooks because they're most likely the ones that are trying to hide all this stuff right so if we drag them out into the light uh it it could be used offensively or defensively um so we got a lot of big stuff coming up and as you guys know I'm having a great time I'm not suicidal in any way shape or form I probably should say this once per week and I'm not going to fall off my balcony or fall on the Elevator Shaft or you know go on any sketchy walks down dark alleys so yeah that's all I want to say um I want to appreciate you guys one more time tonight for being awesome in the chat being very respectful to our host that we had today in a space and we will talk again tomorrow we're definitely going to be streaming tomorrow I probably [Music] will um oh let me let me go through what I have going on podcast wise tomorrow as well we did I had a podcast today but it's not going to uh be published for like a week and I had one on two of them on Saturday which are going to be published pretty soon as well guys so there's a couple that are going to be coming out uh uh tomorrow I have Elijah Schaefer I don't know what exactly what podcast that is so I hope I'm not being offensive but yeah um so one quick question Peter James ask if the the plane gets elastic banded to the last orb is it still going to be going at 700 km an hour the plane actually wasn't going 700 kmers hours it was only going about 200 mil hour cuz it was turning and it was in a turn but we don't know if could be still moving at the same speed or it could actually there's argument that neral mass reduction could cause it to like literally just be set down somewhere um so there's uh we're not sure is the answer to that James and thank you for the donations Peter James and everybody else who donated much appreciated guys I'm going to peace out you guys have a great night and we'll talk again soon uh probably tomorrow almost certainly