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I I want I want to talk about something real quick because I mean we we have to at least make this a known statement on this show on this podcast is that although I do not think that Israel killed Charlie Kirk the criticisms of Israel are valid in my opinion. >> Let me address that too if you don't mind that >> yes >> is I believe that there is probably a genocide happening in Palestine. Absolutely. I don't believe that the MSAD is good just like I don't believe the CIA is good. I believe that the CI and the MSD are like this. I'm the one who actually one of the only people that reported on the fact that the MSAD assassinated nine nuclear scientists a few months back. You can find my Twitter post about it. I mean, it's pretty scary because I Why am I talking about that? Because Zero Point Energy is connected to nuclear physics 100%. So why are they taking those people out? because they know that these type of people that are deranged that will literally use a weapon like that and possibly eradicate all of us, including themselves, can never be allowed to have this technology. And they're right. They're right that I don't it's hard for you guys to hear that, but it is. Now, I'm not saying that we're going to have to let Israel win or Palestine win. I don't really care. I just care that we can't wipe ourselves off the face of the earth. >> Yeah. So, so Ashton too, I mean, you know, with people like Ian Carol and Candace Owens, which are immediately Israel, everything's Israel, no matter what. Like, if you get an ingrown toenail, Israel probably did it, right? And they're going to make sure they know that. >> But I promise you, >> that way a while. >> But I promise you, there are people on the other side that are 100% Israel does nothing wrong. And and I've seen these people on social media. By the way, one of these people actually retweeted one of your posts earlier. uh misfit Patriot and and I saw he had retweeted. >> Yeah. I I I saw that he had posted this and I've actually a couple times went back and forth because no matter what misfit Patriot if you want if if you want to see and by the way for anyone doesn't know there are paid assets on both sides. You know, when leading up to the election of Camala Harris versus Trump and you would have these posts that Camala Harris would post and you would look at these, you would look at the tweets, just scroll through them. They were all pretty much identical. You could see probably a hundred posts that were almost damn near identical. These are bot farms. These these are bot farms that are propping up these posts, making the narrative, creating a narrative. And then on on top of that, you also had people like the Crescentine brothers. You had people like Harry Sison. You had all these on that side saying, "Oh, Camala Harris is the best thing ever. Oh, Biden is not scenile whatsoever. He is the greatest president we've ever had in our entire life." And these are the people that would prop this up. And so then you pe you you also see people with the Israel narrative. They'll do the exact same thing. And these are not just bots. These are actually assets to whatever that faction of the narrative is. But here's the question, Ashton. I know for sure there are people that are pro- Israel out there that are being funded probably either by Apac or some type of faction to where they want to make sure that the conversation stays alive about Israel. And then think about this. Charlie Kirk being dead now. He he was assassinated by a >> left funded this. >> No, but No, I'm not saying funding. I'm I'm saying >> even did this? >> No. I'm not even saying Israel had anything to do with this. All I'm saying is is that you have these people that are funded on the left that supports and props up Israel. And then you look at when Charlie Kirk was assassinated, this pro-Christian, pro- Jesus movement has just I mean it's the biggest thing I've ever seen in America. >> Um but you you know you have it on both sides. The question is like if Ian and Candace are pushing this so hard, who would be funding them if we know >> exactly who is funding them? >> Guys, like a lot of people think that and they might be it might be getting indirectly funded but unlikely honestly. I think that this just we're in the middle of a holy war. It's a holy war guys. There's a huge amount of propaganda on both sides. I don't I don't like think one side is better than the other, frankly. Like that's just the reality of the situation. And yes, and I talked to people on both sides. I'm following Nick Fuentes. I just followed the Misfit Patriot guy. It's not because I agree with his stuff. I've seen his, you know, kind of like pretty far out there and obviously propaganda takes. They're in the middle of a propaganda war. That doesn't give you permission to use Charlie Kirk's death for it. >> That's why I'm doing this. Because if you want, The first question I was gonna ask you is why do you think I'm doing this? >> It's not because I'm a Zionist shill or I, you know, am not because I'm Jewish. It's because you're literally pulling Charlie Kirk's death into the middle of your propaganda holy war. That's the reason why I'm coming down on these people. And if the other side did it, I would be going just as hard on them as well. It just turns out in this case they didn't. >> So what is the holy war ration? What is >> that's not my wheelhouse. I'm not going to get into that whatsoever. But what I do want to get into is last thing I'll say is this. In terms of the evidence, in terms of the conspiracy, here's the thing. You need to be able to ask yourself, and this is what I would have asked you. What is it going to take for you to admit that you're wrong? That is the question. If you can't answer that question, then you are you have the blinders on. You are too biased in that case. People ask me that question. What would it take, Ashton, for you to admit that the MH370 videos are fake? And I do have an answer. >> Find the plane or find the hoaxer of the videos. These are things that would absolutely prove the videos are fake. If you find the plane in the South Indian Ocean, then obviously it did get zapped to Diego Garcia or whatever. >> Did anyone claim >> if you find the host of the videos, >> then obviously they're fake videos, but there isn't a hoaxer. There isn't a plane. >> This also, if you don't have some boundary to say this is where the boundary is of of proof, then your ste story doesn't make any sense. And I was going to ask you, what is your story? And I know his answer is I don't know. This is what they say every time. I say, "Okay, if you think all this stuff's fake, if you think that Israel did, what is the story? Give me the timeline. Give me the evidence. Throw it out there." You notice in that video that he showed, he said, "There's plenty of evidence to blame Israel." But he doesn't list any of it. >> And then he just shows that video clips that are just like, "What what is that video clip of Charlie Kirk talking to Megan Kelly? It's like, oh, he was he was just slightly critical of how Jewish people are super defensive of their of the, you know, people that attack them and anti-semit. I do think they're overly sensitive." Absolutely. But I'm happy to talk to somebody like Nick Fuentes. >> Yeah. >> And I've been thinking about like what would be the pros of Israel assassinating Charlie Crook? What are the pros? Is there any pros for them doing that? >> No, I don't think so. >> Listen, but let's talk about this for a second. So for for Ian and Candace's stance on this is that, you know, he was getting a little more pro anti-Israel or than pro-Israel. I don't I don't believe necessarily as a case like you said Ashton and I do agree you know if you want one of the most staunch supporters or supporters of Israel you have Charlie Kirk but also at the same time you have Charlie Kirk which was the biggest movement turning point USA and it probably is going to be even bigger now I mean after Charlie Kirk's death you're not going to have Charlie Kirk again >> oh but Erica is going to be the CEIO or C sorry CIO was like >> CIO CEO >> CEO Yeah. >> Yeah. But that doesn't matter. Charlie Kirk is gone. You're not going to have another Charlie Kirk. It doesn't matter what it is. And this is not going to help Israel. This is not going to help their stance >> in any way, shape, or form. But the reality of this is is that, you know, you have all of these things and whatever Erica Kirk says Wednesday on her on on on the show, um, will she will she actually kind of talk about the Israel and the conspiracies and people like Candace and Ian? We have not talked a lot about, by the way, yet Candace. Um, we've talked a lot about Ian, but let's briefly talk about Candace because Ashton, you've went on Candace Owens podcast. Candace uh brought you on. She wanted to talk about MA370 because what I will say, and I think this is why a lot of people like Candace or you know, she she's not scared to talk about the things that is kind of taboo. And so with the MS370 thing, she brought you on. She said, "Hey, let's bring Ashen on. Very smart guy. She wanted you to present your case for MH370." And I literally saw a tweet or post or X or whatever the hell you want to call it the other day and they said, um, for Ashton to go so hardcore against Candace knowing that Candace supported him with the Mustere70 thing, it he must be he must have got contacted >> or bought or something. >> Yeah. So, that's been a big narrative. But what exactly like what was the big thing that Candace said? Was she 100% kind of blaming Israel? What was some of the uh arguments that she had with Israel and Charlie Kirk's assassination? >> Well, I mean, I showed you the tweets, so you know, I saw those tweets a second ago where she was claiming they killed him, they killed my friend, all this stuff. And then she was saying that she has some messages and stuff, but she can't show them or she won't show them. And initially was going to put them behind the payw wall, never showed them at all. Nick called her out on that. Said that she needs to release those messages 100%. They just don't exist, right? Like in my opinion, she's just a pathological liar. And let me play this clip here because when she's claiming to be Charlie's friend, she released a message from like May. >> That was probably the last message she had from from Charlie. Somebody's your friend. Do you haven't talked to them in what five months or something like that? >> That that's just an acquaintance. That's not your best friend. Not even close to your best friend. So, and I didn't seem that, you know, incredible that the conversation was like three messages back and forth. Like my buddy Dave Rossi just did an interview with Eric W. Davis, who's one of these UFO whistleblowers. I talk to him like almost every other day. So, that was somebody like I should be able to show messages, you know? So, she claimed to have these receipts, doesn't have them. People are calling her out. I'm calling her out in her reply. She's not addressing it. She's not addressing any of these major questions that are being asked about her supposed evidence that she has. She convinced Dave Smith and Tucker Carlson the day after or two days after to come on and and try to help build up this narrative that Israel was turning on Charlie Kirk. Dave Smith released some text messages and they were totally mundane as well. And Dave Smith, I could tell, was super uncomfortable. He did a podcast the day before where he was like talk, he says, I think he mentions Ian Carol and he's like, "Dude, what's the evidence for why Israel's involved in this?" And he was super awkward because he didn't want to be attacking his friends. And this is shows zero integrity. Dave Smith should get dragged over the coals for this because then the next day he goes on Candace Owens and starts promoting her skitso conspiracy theory, right? It's like, dude, you have no integrity if that's what you do. So just because Candace Owens had me on, that doesn't mean I owe her anything. She's the one making money off me in the story. Uh, so you know, you may say, "Oh, well, she gave you exposure. Great. I don't want that kind of exposure. If this is where she's going to take it, if if she had done this now, I wouldn't go on her show anymore." But back then, if she was just like you guys said, I thought she was exposing stuff. We had great conversation. >> Expect when I went in there, there was nothing no nothing had been set. There was no ground rules for how the conversation was going to go. I went into the lion's den thinking that I'm going to be able to, you know, whatever. She might attack me. She might try to debunk it. I didn't know. And she was respectful.