Hard Truths w/ Eric Hecker, Antarctica Secrets and Directed Energy Weapons

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# Hard Truths w/ Eric Hecker, Antarctica Secrets and Directed Energy Weapons [Music] [Music] welcome and good afternoon everybody this is the hard truths podcast I am your host Ashton Forbes today I joined by a very special guest Eric Hecker he has been to some of the most sensitive secure facilities in the entire country as well as Antarctica and he's going to be uh here with us today to share his story his experience um talk about uh some Hardware that we that he has uh seen there um what the implications of this Hardware are uh the scientific implications and the implications for us as a species um and what people should know uh about his experiences and what type of Technology might be out there and then we're also going to talk to him a little bit about his uh experience when he was sharing this information with our government organizations specifically AO so without further Ado Eric Hecker welcome to the stage my friend how are you doing today I'm doing fantastic Ashton um thank you so much for having me on I've been really looking forward to this conversation um I had a friend of mine named Avon who recently turned me on to the work that you had been doing and to be quite Frank it just um was a breath of fresh air it's been a long time since I've seen people connecting the dots um with facts and and research and effort so my hack goes off to you sir I'm happy that you've become interested in the information that I'm trying to get to the people as well because I believe much like yourself some of us are starting to learn that there's technology going on around us to a level that is almost Beyond description yeah and I'm glad you brought that up because that's what I've just independently concluded this is why I wanted to talk to you uh so much is that um you know I I saw your story probably almost a year ago before I dug into any of this and I thought wow that's incredible if that's all true and it took me digging through going through my own experience of what kind of Technology we might have might be out there to realize wow this guy's like me he's just had a incredible experience digging through um what kind of Technology we have that was capable of that we're capable of out there and um you know that this information needs to be out there to the public um so as we get started I guess the first question I want to ask you is there's been a lot of drama going around on the UFO Community here today uh this I guess last few days so when you were down in Antarctica did you see any uh blue aliens or any nordics or anything like that or is your experience more on the non- esoteric angle it would it would absolutely be from the non esoteric angle from my from my direct experience right but I H I have joked around like that in reality down at the South Pole I mean I I have suggested that it would be like an air traffic control center for you know on andof world activities of higher level Technologies and and yes people often wonder about aliens in the such and and I have to admit like although I can say I've never seen anything with my own two eyes it's very interesting that that environment affords people and num minity by being completely covered up every inch of your body and everything with cold weather gear so it does make me laugh and give pause to I mean there there could have been something just covered with gear so I mean I I I get where people make suggestions and I I have to give pause and go you know something it's it's on the possibilities list but I can't technically say that I have any confirmation of seeing any form of alien at the South Pole station but I I did see um what I now consider a UFO of some sort which was a large massive um ball of flame that went from Horizon to Horizon at the South Pole which is at Great elevation and unobstructed and it went so fast and it was completely level flight it wasn't descending and to me I Now understand that to be a controlled flight path versus just a a meteor event of some sort so I I will go as so far as to say as I I did see one UFO at the South Pole station during my winter day well yeah and I think that I'm just making a joke there because I don't think we have the luxury of you know discounting other people's experiences when we're disclosing stuff that is already pretty incredible and I think both of us are are kind of doing that you know we have to keep an open mind in my opinion out there so I hope nobody takes offense to that I absolutely think that there can be aliens out there haven't personally seen any but um we are going be delving into a little bit of the implications of that with uh this technology and this discussion here today um so let's get right on into it um uh how did you end up in Antarctica um you know how I think i' I've read the stories that you uh you know with Ron out there how did it get to the situation where you ended up being part of that and getting out there with Ron what what can you tell us about how that all played out wow that's that's actually really um interesting and important question but rather complex one to answer I I gather through looking at my life's history that it was a very complex and yet convoluted path that got me somehow to the South Pole station in Antarctica for a year um I had a a brief encounter with the submarine service in 1994 I didn't get to the South Pole until 2010 I've met all kinds of peculiar people um from my youth until South Pole station and I firmly believe that there was um a lot of assistance in getting me into that program if that makes any sense at all I mean I I it makes me think of this there was um I and I bastardize and steal phrases from people all the time and never give appropriate credit but somebody once said that I've only gotten as far as I have because I've been able to stand upon the shoulders of the people that have supported you know that that whole thing um I feel as much as there are a lot of Rogue factions and agencies out there that are up to no good that there's somehow factions that are up to good and just like those other more nefarious cells can put folks to activity that I think there's good guys out there that are um putting guys like me where they need to be at the right time to see things yeah I do wonder about that as well is what it is at this point in terms of like the it might be factions that want this information out there that want the technology out there maybe other ones that don't want it out there it does make you wonder and it makes me wonder about what kind of covert means might be happening behind the scenes what was your impression of uh rathon you know before and while you were working out there as a company my impression of rathon through my life of crossing paths with this cooperation has brought me to the Contemporary conclusion that they are the devil incarnate in corporate form they don't seem to be one of the noblest companies on the planet doing the best for all humankind got it and so you know and I I'm St to believe the same thing about many defense contractors that are out there rathon is one of them and my personal opinion is that disclosure is really a matter of getting the information technology from those companies so when you were out there what was your primary responsibility and what kind of team were you working with I guess what I'm getting at is are there other people that had similar experiences to you did that you did while you were out in anarctica gotcha um basically I was contracted as a plumber for the summer season 2010 at South Pole station and during that summer season I applied for the winter position as well and did well enough in my summer season to get that second contract in that capacity I also had to serve as a a co-lead on what they call the fire brigade team so basically we you know we used to joke around and say that the you know day-to-day life at the South Pole station was just absolute boredom but broken up by moments of sheer Terror and it was the it was the it was the sheer Terror parts that were the most fun and make the best stories um but in reality that's that's what I was actually there for was that when things went catastrophically wrong I was the guy that was basically charged with figuring it out making the first call breaching into the hot zone for you know whatever the predicament may be at the moment for whatever alarm bell rang but that was my job you know so people like to give me a lot of grief for being some sort of you know lowly plumber SL firefighter at this facility but for all practical purposes it was um an extreme L important role that was relied on heavily to make rapid decisions to maintain life support systems that I assure you when mother nature encroaches upon your life support systems in such a harsh environment it's very important to keep that stuff um back online as fast as possible because things can get really bad really fast in those conditions what it's it's the South Pole station in Antarctica folks this was not um it wasn't a party yeah and also I mean I think people should realize two things first is that it's not the people at the top that know necessarily all the uh comings and goings of what's happening at these bases usually you're going to find is to people like Eric who have a key to every single door in the facility because they need it for maintenance for example and uh some people are probably wondering you know why do you have fire uh fire P fire in the uh the coldest one of the coldest places on Earth well we're going to get to that in a little bit as well um there are legitimate reasons but also you in terms of uh you know just being a plumber you know I think you're going to tell us as well it doesn't just mean that you only work on pipes is that you know you have to make sure these devices are not on when you're going and you're making maintenance and repairs and I mean the pipes exploding and in a very cold place when you have water running through them is absolutely a real thing that occurs so so we're going to dig into some of that here I urge people not to try to discredit people just because of what their their role was as opposed to the information that they're presenting forward um now on that same front then what was what was your team how big was the team of people that was with you working with you that you had that and you know did you guys talk a lot about the stuff that was going on down there for my winter season which would have been through 2011 we had 49 members of the winterover crew and that was and that was it we came uh intimately familiar with each other what we were interested in it was you know kind of we were we were cut off from the world we had no outside Creature Comforts we didn't have internet 24 hours a day we had we had short opportunities with limited access so our world was the South Pole station and and we had respons responsibilities and obligations to to each other um to keep that place up and running the um the science that they were doing was being presented as very important and we certainly were trying to do due diligence to you know to make sure we kept things functioning it was it was it it was like being on the Moon I mean even Buzz Aldren when he showed up to the South Pole was you know beside himself on how similar it was so what can we let's talk a little bit about the hardware that was down there I want to give people the idea of you know what were the kind of systems that were down there can you give us a rundown of I think it's three primary systems that were dealt with or what you go ahead and I'll let you absolutely yep so the the major system that I'm bringing to everybody's attention is the Ice Cube neutrino detector which they're presenting as its primary function is to search for for neutrinos and it does do that but it also has the ability to transmit which now you know puts it in in a whole other venue of what it can potentially do and I'm just trying to point out to people that these are directed energy weapons platforms so the Ice Cube nutrino detector having the capacity to transmit makes it the world's largest phased array transmitter currently now a lot of folks don't realize I had mentioned to earlier that the the device is slated to be increased by tfold on its size this is this is this is Extreme stuff this is you know people need to pay attention to what these Technologies can do potentially and then start to inquire as to whether or not those activities are going on um I I don't even know how to like sugarcoat this to like it's a it's a bitter pill for people to have to swallow but we are currently in war there's like war going on but at a technological level that people can't really comprehend so there is a an activity of war going on with weapons but we no longer can identify the Contemporary walking wounded because we're not familiar with the Weaponry being used or the wounds that occur from the technology applied so there's walking wounded around all of us right now in this ongoing battle but the wounds are different than what we're familiar with it's not bullet holes like of old it's Havana syndrome symptom lists items it's it's mental degradation it's the ability to apply fatigue to to a population now how did you find out or how did you come to determine that these uh systems could transmit or at least that the Ice Cube nutrino detector could transmit was this I was directed to I was directed to find information that was already already publicly available information and it basically comes out of the University of Wisconsin's um like owners and Operators manual for for the Ice Cube nutrino array so it's just like having you know the owner's manual for a Chevy truck it's it's one of the pages in the owner's manual but this happens to be the owner's manual for the Ice Cube nutrino aray states that each of the Doms has the ability to transmit at up to 2,47 volts there's yeah and there's the Doms right there so yeah a lot to consider like you had stated about the structure of these Doms and how you know we've all been utilizing the phenomena of electricity but it doesn't mean that we really wholly understood what it is that we're doing with this phenomena but there's other things to be considered when you start applying the structure of sacred GE geometry to this phenomena that we don't wholly understand there's certainly room for other things to be realized or utilized or whatever you want to call it we have to open our minds to the fact that there's more going on around us than um the science we've been told to trust as of late yeah and these devices when I look at these they just look really weird really suspicious the fact that there's I think what is it 5,000 160 or something like that of these things and each one has 2,000 volts um and it happens to look like I did an interview last week uh with Tom Monto about scalar physics and in his presentation he has a spherical capacitor uh that looks just like what this looks like and he says that that is the type of device that could uh basically negate the electric field or make a uniform electric field within it that can produce these types of scaler effects um which to me lends credit to your um argument that this can be used as a type of transmitter of of energy and uh so I I guess what I'd like for you to repeat there or to say in your own words is you know what would you like the world to know specifically about these this device and what you found down there like what does the world need to wrap their head around in order to catch up with what's going on in these military uh project you know third party defense contractor projects and Facilities I guess to answer that in this regard for this device specifically this device is responsible for earthquakes that hit Christ Church New Zealand in February of 2011 so this is the reality of some of the new directed energy weapons platforms that exist contemporarily in the hands of many factions is that they can manifest earthquakes and it's not really that hard to do um it's how did you find out that or like you know did somebody tell you I found that out fir hand from my crew that we were involved with that so rumors were circulating around in the in the crew there while you were out on on assignment that hey this earthquake no it was it was it wasn't like that at all actually it was um many years after being at the South Pole station there were multiple members from my crew that were starting to talk about medical issues that they were having and it was in those conversations that uh a lot of folks decided to put all of their cards on the table and in those cards that were then dealt it was discussed what was really going on at the facility which was the application of these systems in secondary and tertiary capacities above and beyond what they were pre presented for as their primary purpose of science was also the ulterior motives and what that could have done to the crew which was us yeah and it was in those types of conversations that there was realizations for some yeah it's the thing about the Christ church thing that's really weird is there's no fault lines down there and all of a sudden they had I think it was over a 6.0 earthquake I can't remember maybe it was even stronger than that um so I I did dig into that a little bit and I thought it was very unusual um the thing I keep wondering about is are we talking weather control or weather manipulation you know and there's a little bit of a subtle difference there that's semantics at that point yeah because the the the difference between one and the other is just called practice yeah that's true it's just getting good at it right is getting good at and that's what I kind of Wonder is have we are we just shooting beams out there and then things are happening versus are we able to cause very specific events to occur this was something that came up recently with the Taiwan earthquake which was I think like 7.4 people don't realize like every time you go up one point on the rter scale the earthquake is 10 times more powerful so that was a huge earthquake what did you think about that did that earthquake was that seem suspicious to you at all when you saw that one recently I I mean ever since my eyes have been opened to what is possible I I guess I function from a very biased position of pretty much questioning every earthquake now because if if not you know us in our agenda there are certainly plenty of other factions that have their hands um available to the same technology so I believe that we the people of the planet need to start paying more attention to the technologies that are being used about us and start to understand that if these Rogue factions keep doing what they're doing which is you know it's be because we don't get to know it exist means that it can be unregulated so right now there's just certain factions that are running a muck with Technologies because they're they're unregulated it's it's not it's not worth it for them to share the technology because in an unregulated capacity it's more lucrative yeah my friend was telling me that there are potentially multiple factions you've got the faction that wants the information out you've got the faction that wants to keep the information secret and then you've got the faction that wants to profit off of it themselves and then between that you've got uh maybe all of those factions wondering what the other factions are thinking and what they're doing and I think when you look at it like that you know it gets a little bit scary now one thing I want to say for the people out there that might be watching this going oh this is all sci-fi you can't really pull this off the laws of physics say you can't do this uh I would say think again ask yourself do you really really think that we are at the Pinnacle of human uh civilization and scientific advancement right now is it possible that we do not fully understand the laws of physics and electrical engineering uh perfectly um when we're talking about scaler physics here which is the types of science that we need for these types of effects uh we're talking about Maxwell's original equations before they got uh uh stripped down to heavy sides for electrical engineering equations and when we're talking about this we're talking about the idea that you can negate your magnetic potential or your electric potential and then you're not left with nothing you're left with a scaler potential and if you can take that scaler potential and turn it into a transmitter a beam like we see in these Doms that we're seeing here potentially from something like this you make a beam out of it and then you take that beam and that beam would have if you try to measure it with electromagnetic type of measurement device you're going to measure nothing but if you then cross that Beam with another Beam at a location in the distance now you can potentially recreate the energy at a distance you can have an interference pattern we call it interferometry Zone occur and then the next question for Eric Hecker here is I want to know his opinion because when I think about that and that being the capability for inducing an earthquake or even stuff like um you know stuff like havan syndrome and other types of uh Electrical uh magnetic effects you know why do you why do you think Antarctica would be a good location for this Eric or have you thought about you know why they would have one of these devices down in Antarctica again back to the primary purpose being the nutrino detection and the Doms being embedded in the ice so just the optical activity of the nutrino detection I mean it is that that does function so it helps when the primary mission is um easily supportable but I think there's other things to consider for the arrangement of the Doms in the ice the conversation that you had with Tom montalk the other day you guys would discussing um ice and I had made a mention in the comments that it's it's it behaves like a dialectric so now when you really like I mean this is it's big brained but it's not big brained because these are still basic electrical principles so it's like you know we have these um you know spherical Doms embedded in the ice that can now transmit at up to you know such and such volts but now the ice itself is a DI electric so now is this in and of itself becoming this like directionally optimized capacitor of some sort which you know you know it's it's we don't have a vocabulary for a lot of this stuff right now that's what's going on is is problematic is that you know when you say well what can this device do what if I just simply said we don't currently have words for that well some of the other thoughts that I was just thinking is well uh a lot of these uh Quantum macroscopic effects that we are seeing with Advanced high technology require very cold temperatures uh including classic uh super conductivity um also just cooling things down especially when we're dealing with huge amounts of energy that might things might heat up but the other thought is just the location like if you are trying to shoot a beam somewhere what's a better location than the top or the bottom of the planet you know it seems like a pretty good spot especially if you're going to create a a Cross Beam somewhere else um but I think you mentioned in in our preall um the fact that when we looked at it it's it's really deep into the ice um is there potential you know some type of directional capability that you know why is it buried down into the ice as opposed to being flat on the surface do you think in terms of this threedimensional I think that has everything to do with now for the first time ever applying a third dimension and albeit a substantial Third Dimension to what would previously have been just your your standard harp antenna array which has length and width so this one having the third dimension applied and giving it all of that depth is just again a testimony to how much more profoundly powerful a phased array transmitter this is than anything previous to it and you said they're GNA make it 10 times bigger than this yes sir times bigger than the current Arrangement do you know what the official narrative is on why they need to make it 10 times bigger all no I'm really curious as to what that Spiel is yes why why yes I'm I'm big into you know paying attention to you know what's you know what is the return on investment I come from a blue collar world of slinging tools and you know I always look at things with a different angle you know like I I don't believe that you can whip people into to being Master Craftsman so I don't know that I buy the whole you know slaves of Egypt building the pyramid situation it just doesn't really make sense to me yeah no I'm with you on that I so everybody who's out there and watching or listening to this later on pay close attention to what the official narrative is about why our Ice Cube nutrino detector needs to be 10 times larger than it is right now um I'm very curious to hear because I think that like what Eric just said they've got these narratives that are out we don't even have words to describe everything that's out there like I'm using the term scalar physics but you're probably not going to hear officials use that um and so you know when they whatever they say about it's probably going to be some scientific mumbo jumbo that they're going to try to pass off on us for why they've gotta increase the size and we should pay extra attention to that um so did any of your I think you you mentioned this but uh just repeat it if necessary um anybody else in your crew so they started to have weird symptoms that I think you said after the fact people started to attribute to it was being you know too close to some of the hardware that was out there what happened absolutely and you can probably look this up right now um my winter site manager while we were active at the South Pole station um suffered from some sort of incident and it made all of the news her name was Renee Nicole duure she was the winter site manager for my crew and she started calling for a medical evacuation of herself which was extremely abnormal and gave me you know great trepidation at the time because this was the person that through my hiring process was emphasizing to me that I needed to understand that there was no such thing as a medical like it was just there you go that's yep that's my winter site manager Renee so she was trying to get a medical Evac for herself this is the person that hired me and made me sign paperwork after she made me understand that there is no medical Evac process we're just stranded there so it was the weirdest thing ever when she started trying to call for an Evac for herself and wow an Evac she need she wanted to get out of there she was feeling so bad that she just need to leave something happened to her um I I believe that she believed that she had a stroke because at the time of the incident she had no other way to have words for it but I believe that she and many other folks from my crew were the victims of directed energy Weapons Systems attacks wow so I'm TR to read here did she end up getting evacuated uh she was removed on the first scheduled Flight of the season officially it was not any privilege given for her circumstance wow so they didn't they didn't speed it up but so that's scary because um the Savannah syndrome it's been back in the news again it came out I think a few years after that um and they've been claiming that it's uh they being either the threel agencies and the media which I don't really trust either of them claiming that oh it's some type of microwave weapon which I guess it could be you know it's just a matter of what the wavelength is that we're talking about but the thing that's scary about scaler weapons is that this stuff goes right through solid matter um you can have those beams go straight through solid matter doesn't matter if you've got Concrete in the way it's going to go straight through it and then you can reproduce that energy at a distance and who knows what that does to the body um Thomas Bearden who I believe you are familiar with I've been you know going through a lot of his old videos and when he starts talking about this scalar interferometry one of the other aspects of it is a medical healing aspect in terms of this kind of like time reversed wave they call it which can kind of revert um the uh state of the cell or you know anything back to its original position it's uh definitely controversial to speak about but now the opposite of that would be you know a weapon that can damage people that can uh he argues past disease from one cell to the other or you know I imagine it can do some pretty horrific things out there so are you then of the opinion that a lot of the Savanah syndrome stuff is coming from directed energy weapons like this the stuff that people have been reporting in the military and the EM embassies Etc absolutely yep all all of these weapons are you know up the sleeve SES of our enemies six ways from Sunday this is part of the issue is that we need to realize the broad spectrum of stuff that's available in the market contemporarily it's it's not like this just one thing you know that's terrible there's there's a lot there's there's companies that have this stuff in market right now so there was a company that was previously called elrad and now they go by the name of Genesis and these are companies that sell commercially directed energy Weapons Systems they are available currently for law enforcement fire departments they're they're sold under the guise of being hailing devices or long range Communications devices for emergency use but if you get trained on this stuff you learn that there's you know there's a dial and there's a green zone there's a yellow zone and there's a red zone and you know they say that the officials are trained to never put it in the Red Zone you know cuz then you can kill people but my question would be why do you even have a Red Zone on the dial to begin with but these are the products that are commercially available to our overseers that you know in in a panic next thing you know that dial goes to red and some scared police officer just decimated a crowd with a microwave weapons blast but these are these are the technologies that exist today the trainings that are available for local law enforcement if they want to use a backpack Deployable variant of this technology also exists so that you know if you have the right money and the right paperwork this stuff is on ipresent in our society already yeah and I was looking through this document about energy and in this there is a part trying to find it down here if I can't find it I'll just dig straight to the images that I have that pretty much talks about directed energy weapons directed energy weapons have been getting talked about in the defense contractors for years if not for decades yeah here it is right here actually so energy Horizons airspace cyber inter structure under materials and systems under extreme conditions we can see directed energy listed both for air and space right here as well and also you can see propulsion listed for air as well in here um and then we can see our government uh Partners here as well NASA nro NGA you know what scares me when I look at this particular uh clip right here is that the air part would be you know we see OSD Navy NASA FAA this is where I think we're talking about shooting beams out into the sky when we look at the space one now I think okay well we've got this ice ice cube nutrino detector or these harp radar antennas on the ground imagine if we had them in outer space on satellites shooting down you have better field of view I mean one of the big limitations is the field of view and how far you can shoot it now I think they can bounce them off the ionosphere which makes them have huge huge range but if you have satellites that can do this then you can just zap anyone on the whole planet um yeah these are just different cogs in a machine at that point all these different independent systems have what they can accomplish uh singularly but then there's a lot to be said for firing up different systems and um crossing the streams so to say of different systems with each other yeah so people definitely need to be paying attention uh to these types of systems that we have out there and hopefully opening their mind to uh what we're capable of especially when it comes to Havana syndrome as well it it wouldn't surprise me I think that if uh you know that we're being kind of LED down a different path with the Havana syndrome stuff because they don't want people looking at these types of systems wondering what can we pull off there and then um you know like you said about the mass fatigue you know imagine if this is a weapon that's not just hitting a single person but you can hit like a huge body of people or a group of people a city of people with this type of Technology it does make you wonder about whe manipulation and and and those types of effects as well um now uh Eric when you were in Antarctica what was like the impetus when did you realize that something was wrong I mean you may have already had like you know you didn't trust rathon when you first went out there but was there a moment where you were looking around digging through stuff looking through the utilities or whatever where you thought um this doesn't seem right there's something going on here the first time where I I had actual knowledge that things were not as presented and on the shadier side was an event where I discovered that the EF system that we had been officially told was was disabled deenergized not functioning and I learned that that was not true that it absolutely was energized the system was up and running and I came to this knowledge just because I was trying to work on a circuit that was next to that circuit and because things weren't um labeled correctly I guess you would say um I had to you know check as to why you know some circuits were on that were supposed to be off and that's when I learned that it was the EF system is was up and running and that the circuit that I was looking to De energize was the next circuit over so it was pretty much just suggested that I should just get back onto my task and you know hustle up because now the circuits had been safely identified and what's your understanding of what the purpose of that elf Hardware is that's probably the second device right the ice cream nutrino detector number one EF is number two EF is number two and again I would say that directed energy weapons platforms are multifaceted so I'm going to make suggestions to the things that I believe can be accomplished with this type of Technology but I do not want to limit um the list of things that these things can do just to my understanding and Imagination because I think that's um one of the first problems we have with these systems is not appreciating um how manifold they can be okay that's fair yeah go ahead uh what do you think regards to in regards to the EF it's been known for years that these systems work with submarine Communications so hence there would be secrecy that would want to be applied in that capacity alone and then we get into the spectrum of the directed energy weapons side of it and we can go from weather modification to earthquake manipulation to fullblown insertion of thought into mind like a like a mind control consideration these are all things that we have to lay at the feet of these massive transmitters that are operating on frequencies and doing things that you know you know they're secret for a reason but if we start to investigate what the paperwork says is possible well then that's what should be giving us pause when when people do the research and see that you know well these are the frequencies that they suggest um intrusive thoughts can be applied and the thing that I want to uh also harp upon here and I don't mean that a as a uh double and Tandra but um the the thing with uh that I think people need to understand about radar and detection systems that you've uh said many times as well is that it's not simply a passive device that is listening these the same technology that we use with Radars what can be used to create a phase conjugate effect where you now have your waves cancel each other out and you create this scalar potential which seems like you can imagine like an invisible beam of potential energy and then you can rebuild that energy at a distance so when you think of it that way radar is very easily converted into a weapon and that's where I personally think a lot of this technology goes back to and this is where I think my investigation and Eric's um you know investigation into what happened in Antarctica have this crossover is that we're just missing a very important aspect of physics that we have thrown out and once you bring it back in it gets really scary because then you start talking about a lot lot of crazy stuff being possible you know stuff that I think that you know most people would and then it's so E I mean it's actually so easy to consider I mean one of the things that Tesla was getting at way back when was that here we are we're all we're all actively functioning in the her scen wavelength band that's the section of the phenomena of electricity that we're utilizing that's not the limit of anything like when you say scalar or logitudinal waves that is still just yet another chapter in the book of electrical frequency there's a lot more frequencies out there that we don't even bring into the conversation but it's almost Limitless when we look at the cosmos like Tesla says you know frequency and vibration there's a lot more than just simple hying wavelength activity yeah I think Tesla was right personally and I I want to talk about with you about that in a little bit here um real quick question before we move on from the elf though is I I found this diagram on Antarctica's elf website or some universities website here do you know any are you familiar with any of these other locations it's got South Pole listed here but it's also got MC Murdo and Palmer are these also stations have you heard of any of these by any chance absolutely yep so uh been to McMurdo and to South Pole I have not been to Palmer but those are the three facilities that are operating uh as the United States Antarctic program under the National Science Foundation it's those three facilities that are considered the American aspect so do you think they all have Elf trans uh antenna and transmitters on them um if if the South Pole has the ual EF antenna I don't gather that McMurdo or Palmer would need the antenna so to say but I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't some sort of Technology at their locations that afforded some sort of um I guess the word I'm looking for would be like like steerability targeting almost to assist in its delivery from South Pole that by having as you can see on the map those two other facilities that if the South Pole was to fire through them I believe that there would be something utilized through the other two facilities to help in directing it to where it's supposed to go yeah and the thing that kind of creeps me out about this image that I'm looking at here is how you can see the lines on these and the and the inter interferometry zones on them as well and in fact just like a week to or go there was a weird anomaly that was actually like this size that we're looking at on this graph in this exact location that everybody was talking about um and this does make me wonder especially when I go down to this next graph we're talking about the uh uh precipitation region and if we're talking about stuff like manipulating the weather I'm sitting here wondering like why do I have all these interferometry zones and connection points between all these locations and these VF receiver sites that are on this graph here because it makes me wonder like are we not just measuring the weather but potentially you know impacting it as well um and yes it does seem like you know for a lot of people out there that's probably you know we're pushing what they're willing to believe but I think that once you start to dig into what Tesla was capable of you'll start to realize that like our our planet is one big capacitor and if we manipulate this ionosphere magnetosphere we can manipulate you know the climate potentially and everything about our lives there was a report from the Air Force back in the early 80s and I I have this in my POS it was given to me back when it was a big deal and super secret and I was told to like watch yourself with this but it has since um become much more public knowledge but it was a report that the Air Force had about how they would have control of the weather by the year 2025 wow what if they got there a little early it wasn't a research and development project it wasn't maybe will'll pull this off this was a report on what they were going to have Direct Control of by the year 2025 some people in the chat right now too are saying that there's other other bases around that have ellf transmitters like this and if you were to imagine that all we need to do is create an interferometry Zone then you'd want these kind of all over the planet or in various locations where you can then just cross the streams on any point of the planet that you want and like I was saying before take that and apply to satellite like we were just looking at that that Navy paper which I think I've oh no I still have it open here if I pull this back up again um you look at this it's like you don't a lot of people discussing the sosus array I don't think you get a lot of people that have any idea how extensive the sosus array is that's been very relevant for my research so um little side note I've been investigating MH370 and people think oh well this plane just crashed somewhere in the middle of the ocean and we're just never going to find it we just didn't ever find it and they kind of gave away the game when the Titan Sub in uh near the Titanic imploded this is a sub that only holds four people it's a tiny little sub and the Navy just comes out five days later after every single cable news stations going how much oxygen do these people have left and they go Navy goes yeah well we heard that implode like 5 days ago we just didn't tell anybody and by the way we're going to go pick it up because we triangulated the exact position of it using our sosus system that's out there well spoiler guys that system was Declassified in like 2012 it's been out there for well over 10 years like we can pinpoint acoustic sounds anywhere in the ocean and I don't think people realize that do you have any other insights to the Sosa system yeah it pervades every inch of every wet spot on the planet really how did you find out about it I was in the submarine service for a short period of time oh so you knew about it before the Titan sub stuff I knew about it in 1994 oh wow so this is guys like if you are out there and you are in let's say ufology and you've been hearing about these uh Usos unidentified submersible objects that have been moving really fast like the Navy and the military knows what's going on in the water we've got these acoustic systems that are out there we have to be extremely naive to think that something that crashes into the ocean or is moving around the ocean that we're not that we're not hearing it out there and I think a lot of the frequencies these things give off are very unique as well it's not like oh we're accidentally hearing whales or something like that was sophisticated systems like Eric just said I actually went out with um there there was a TV series called the Alaska triangle MH so I got contacted by them and I went and filmed an episode in see season 2 episode 9 they sent me out to ketan Alaska to locate um unidentified submerged objects they basically said there's been reports out here and do you think with what you know and your skill set do you think you can go track these things down and I said sure So I actually went with the Alaska triangle crew located a underwater spot where there was unidentified submerged object activity the production crew the captain everybody was all excited as we were recording every bit of it and everybody was being all congratulatory oh you you know you found it well they edited all of that out from the episode they edited you out or just that part about you finding they edited out the activity of finding it so they played all of the parts where we were searching and hunting and there's statements being made by me like oh not finding any thing here you know just natural like they really pushed out the part of not finding and removed the part of finding wow well yeah the social system system thing is is pretty wild I was just reading through it right there on the Wikipedia of it and it goes back even much further than I thought so I think that our surveillance apparatus is another thing in my opinion people need to get their their minds around it's not just directed energy weapons but like we are seeing and and everything that's going on on our planet there is no hiding anywhere in the ocean or anything like that oh not at all and that's that's where all the real activity is going on on this planet you know 70% of the world is covered in water and I can tell you right now whatever is happening below the surface of the Waves um dead men tell no tales and history books are written by The Victors so whatever the winning submarine Captain says happened that's what happened that's scary man especially for somebody like you sir who has actually you know worked on submarines before um so what about did you have any experiences with uh or what can you tell me about the AR um the hardware system that's out there on Antarctica oh I'm sorry oh um a o I'm sorry you're getting not the double we'll get to that one later yeah yeah so a o was the atmospheric research Observatory at the South pole station it was run by Noah which um people are learning has a very interesting there you go that's a great shot green laser beams uh that's nothing nothing suspicious there yeah please disperse um and that actually looks um to not be the arrow building because it's too small so that appears to be some other facility what is this article calling that um it says the space agency's research station in Antarctica doesn't so that's a different facility with a l Concordia oh Concordia yeah Concordia station so is that a separate area in the same that is a completely different facility than the one that I was at so now we're just seeing you know more of this freaky um green ler activity the research that I have done has made me understand that these lasers especially green ones take a ridiculous amount of energy to fire for fractions of a second but I can tell you that with my own eyes I observed the unit firing from the arrow building at South Pole um for many minutes on end sorry I think I read yesterday that they fire for like every hour every 30 minutes for like five minutes straight or something does that sound right to you and what do you think that they're I've never heard a frequency on it it was um from my perspective when I was there it was made out like it was some sort of you know random thing that they did sometimes and sometimes I would see it sometimes I didn't but there were certainly plenty of times that I would not be looking in that direction and it could have been firing every 15 minutes for all I know yeah um I know all I know is I see green laser beams I'm going outside and painting my roof blue uh I'm just just to be safe uh it actually says in this article that is emitted for every every or for 60 seconds every five minutes during the winter time which uh it's pretty bizarre um it says what it's used is to measure the likes of temperature cloud formations and aerosol particles which seems pretty mundane to me do you have any other thoughts about what other uses might there might be for something like this yeah I mean I I I believe that all of these systems can provide for the benign primary purpose they're presented that's the cover story cool but then we have to as human beings apply discernment and look at what else these systems can also do and then question whether people would be doing that so in regards to what else can this system do besides um weather observations and Atmospheric considerations we have to look at what the technology of chemical lasers are and some options for very long range laser likee commun Communications these are you know technologies that are on the table for being discussed as something we might be able to do in the future but I think enough precedent has been set that we the people of this planet are learning that for the most part by the time that something gets to market for them to bill us for a product that we've already invested in decades ago for the research and development for these Technologies to be used for war for a few decades first um before we the people are then um tolerated the benefit of the technological advancement of our investment is just a sad state of where we are but it's it's observable so these are just again new technologies that we are becoming privy to after Decades of use by the military industrial complex to kill people now they're just like all right well we're done killing people with these Technologies but boy we're about to profit this is propit season now yeah and for the people that don't believe um you know just take a look at this report that I've pulled up here directly from the Air Force I mean they're taking it seriously so this is the part where it seems like a lot of that information is is just out there for people um and and that's part of scary so one of the things I've heard you say about maybe the green laser beams or maybe all of it combined is the idea of faster and light communication um do you believe that that's one of the capabilities that of these fac of potentially the Antarctica facility or other ones absolutely and I I do have um scientific paperwork in the archive section on my website which supports the plausibility of such technology is that when we get into phase array transmitters constructed similarly to the unit the Ice Cube nutrino detecting unit at the South Pole I mean this is this is how they would do it this is what we're looking for this is the science you oh you got to trust the science well trust me this is this is the science of quantum entangled you know faster than light Communications there are folks out there before me before you that have let us know that there is an off is an offworld Fleet I mean what are we going to do this is just the the cards that we we've been dealt if you're going to have vessels leaving this planet and going at Great distances to accomplish whatever it is you're putting them to task to do you're going to need to have a communication system to keep in touch with them and the South Pole station has that capacity yeah I think that uh this is something that I talked with uh Professor Simon Howell he's got a YouTube channel you guys can check out um and he has a contact that worked with I think it's like the European SEI um and seti is the organization that's trying to look for signals out there they basically told them we we've received signals but not just have we received signals but that we have fashion like communication and we've been covering it up and before people discount that I would say go look up Gunter nimts I went and looked him up and he has a very specific uh scientific experiment that he set up with prisms where he was able to show that when the light he reflects the light off of one prism and it goes to the next prism and the distance here is traversed instantaneously the moment that the light laser beam exits the one prism it enters the next prism instantly he was supposed to do a um presentation in like 2005 2006 just didn't show up it seems like a repeat thing and then 2019 some uh students or uh maybe they're I don't know if they're physics students but they were at a competition I think it was in Germany and they they proved the experiment uh worked and it's they've gone and redone the experiment to actually detect if it's moving faster than the speed of light communication and they measured it at like 24 at seconds which is some minuscule number uh out there so I would urge people not to just discount these claims just on the basis of not believing it to be possible any comments there so there's so many things that we haven't I mean our brains haven't even imagined what's possible and we're we're still limiting ourselves to a definition that's ludicrous like similar to what you were just saying they now have um gemstones for lack of a better term that can be you know cut so that the surfaces are arranged in a particular fashion and then they can rotate these gems at a high rate of speed so that when they inject light into one of the cut surfaces that now because of the rotation of the gem in its surfaces now that gem will actually bounce the light around in inside and contain it and this is a whole other New Direction of science because now if you can put this light into this gemstone and contain it there's again now there's conversations are on you know have have you just created a whole new world is this a new dimension what's going on in there yeah I read about those experiments I mean it's it's talking about holding photons into super position uh using uh specific lattice structures is usually what they talk about when we talk about crystals we're talking about like the crystalline structure of the atoms being set up in a very specific way organized way which can allow some of those it's very similar to the idea of a metam material and and then we get into peculiar rules and regulations of physics where now we start talking about things being you know superimposed in every direction which means that what we're looking at is all possibility at once it's like wait what do we what do we even talk like this it starts to get really profound and fast because then people start talking about Creator and creation and you know what what what do these things mean you know what it um oh sry someone in the chat pointed out piso electrics as well which you talked about the pyramids people have argued that the pyramid might have been a piso electric type of power plant when you talk about some of the types of crystals when we're talking about piso electrics like quartz is a piso electric Crystal they use it in people's watches that don't have any batteries because when you squeeze it produces electricity so there's already magic out there that people don't even realize on their day-to-day basis but what do you think you know given what you've gone through and what you've experienced what do you think the nature of our universe is what what is this how has this changed you spiritually or in those aspects oh great question um my my understanding of things would be it's way less material and more more energetic it's life is more verb than noun it's more about action and decision and doing than it is about possessing or having or wanting so I think that there's I guess power to deciding something and a lot of intention and investment has been spent to make the vast majority of people wishy-washy and that um if people just simply chose to do something in the world around them that it would have a lot more impact than they previously considered and that people should feel more empowered to take part um in their community and make decisions and do wherever you are wherever you may be do whatever you think is right always and do that as much as you can because there seems to be technology investment whatever you want to call it um by a new definition that wants people to do less I like that mean I like that because what I've been throwing out there is this idea of the only way that a lot of this technology is possible in my opinion is that uh that the holographic principle must be correct and a lot of people say well that means that we live in a simulation and that life doesn't matter and I want to tell people the opposite and I think that what you just mentioned it's like when you look at this it should bring people hope in my opinion it should tell you this is a world that you can make a huge difference in that you can help build up that you can make a better place for people and that's how I see it so I don't know what is your would you agree is that a good uh characterization of of your opinion absolutely I think the power of the intention of each individual and then collectively as a group is so obviously important that we can observe by how much invest m is already applied to make sure that we are of a unified opinion of something but currently it just happens to be to the to the bid to to the highest bidder but we can obviously see that there is intent and investment on what the mass of the population considers that's that's paid for that's observable we can we can speak for hours on end about what's being most invested at this point in time which is causing the most conversation amongst the most people I mean this is just marketing 101 at this point in observable but certainly that activity is going on the the minds of the masses Are Holy owned at this point social media was a mistake you just heard it right here from Eric they've taken control of our minds that's probably the only thing more powerful than a directed energy weapon or a nutrino quotquot also provable by science because easy there's an easy experiment that we can apply right now right if I'm wrong right if if all of you are not addicted to your technology the only thing you have to do to prove me wrong is simply walk away from it right now sorry I didn't hear that I was too busy uh tweeting my my fault yeah yeah I mean they had the plank challenge back in the day right you know 30 seconds of planking increased to a minute to 5 minutes I challenge people to do that with their technology if you're not addicted it should just simply be easy you know how long can you spend away from your phone how long can you exit your house and go somewhere without it and I think that's a great challenge for everybody who's out there is watching not right now make sure you still watch this interview but after this interview maybe go for a walk just get outside get away from the computer for a little bit uh I think that would do all of us um some good now going back to Antarctica real quick and then I want to talk to you about just broader suppression and stuff like that did you have any let's say scary experiences while you're out there what was the the scariest experience that you potentially had um you know being part of the uh fire brigade uh if you want to call it that or stuff that's out there yeah go ahead they're they're absolutely were moments of sheer Terror um in between the the benign m you know routine stuff um one story in particular was we had uh alarms go off which was common you know things went into alarm and we would you know get fired up and gear up and and do what we have to do but on this particular particular occasion the alarm had come in that it was for the balloon inflation facility which was on the lower level of what we refer to as Ryo so if the Biff if the balloon inflation facility was in fact on fire that means that it could continue to burn up and over to the cryogenic facility and the cryo facility had about a half a million gallons of chilled helium and it was chilled down to 4° Kelvin which is quite cold and it was our understanding in the training that we got for all the different facilities and the dangers as First Responders was that any any leak on the cryos system is catastrophic that it would go from basically contained and functioning to a leak that would then go to like a catastrophic like a like a bevy situation because the expansion rate of helium at that temperature um to the atmosphere is about 450 to 1 so it it it would have been a discharge of phenomenal proportions and on this particular event we were alarming that this building was on fire so myself and my co lead um went to our Lockers in in due form and because we would have to exit the building in Winter conditions at the South Pole when we had this type of circumstance we would start dressing the other person so that all of their gear was in the right spots for the temperature and not breaking hoses and stuff we were going we were going full asba like full bunker gear fire response for these types of events so we had to do things in a way that kept the gear from breaking and it was stuff that we learned from trial and error so we would always just make sure we would set the other person up correctly so in the process of gearing each other up we have our LMR radios which are just you know like you've seen the police and fire department Ed with the lapel mics and we were listening to team one who is our Our First Responders when an alarm or an event occurs and what they basically do is they when when myself and my team starts running to the lockers to gear up with the bunker gear and scbas this team team one just goes straight to the site of the alarm to gather Intel and confirm whether or not the alarm is legitimate so in this circumstance we were getting geared up listening to the radio chatter for team one arriving on scene and then letting us know that it was in fact uh a fully employed Fire coming out of the balloon inflation facility and that they were waving off because they they did their job so so then my co and I were the were to respond to what was now called in as a as a confirmed active fire at the balloon inflation facility and there we were geared up with you know fire extinguishers over our shoulders cuz we didn't have fire trucks we we were the fire trucks and we had our extinguishers and we were walking core wordss that building and it was um extremely dark it was moonlit it was back lit that night and I remember I was terrified because I just I kept thinking that I'm I'm about to see this building just explode I'm going to watch it go round for like a fraction of a second I'm going to get to see this building swell out and then that wall is just going to come across the ice and hit me in the face at Mach 12 and that's I just I thought that we were walking to our death the Split Second they confirmed it on the radio she and I we we just stopped communicating we just went through the motions everything just went nonverbal we grabbed our stuff we walked in the direction that we were obliged to walk and yeah I just I didn't think we were going to make it but long story short we we got to the facility there was a a a hot air furnace that had an issue and there's um smoke pouring out of that and we extinguished that situation everything was hunky dory and it was just um terrifying for the time being yeah and for people that don't uh respect how scary that is there's been several videos of like chemical plant explosions that have been on the internet over the last 10 years and they are some of the biggest explosions I've ever seen like people see them from a distance uh one I remember specifically a guy is in Texas with his daughter in the car and they see this plant exploding like in the distance and they don't realize how huge explosion is going to be and it ends up blowing over the whole car potentially blowing out their eardrums and like that's how just like in in one moment you see this tiny explosion next thing you know the whole screen is just yellow and orange and red and that's why you can imagine from Eric's perspective walking towards that going there's a fire and it's next to half a million pounds of helium four which I want to ask about here in a second how you could think that I mean if if that blows up it's going to happen it's gonna be over instantaneously all like you said all you're going to see is something coming at you and then that's it extremely scary so I think you're you're definitely Brave to do that job out there for sure now why do you think that they had I think you said in our preall there was like 450,000 pound pounds of helium 4 out there that seems pretty interesting that they've got all that uh it was actually it was gallons 450,000 to 500,000 gallons of it I should probably use my units of measurement correctly for liquids or in this case gas so the um the known uses uses of it were for the South Pole telescope that on the focal plane which is the sensor array for that device to look into the cosmos it's not Optical like glass it's a a sensor setup that they call the focal plane and the the chilled helium goes from Storage temperature of 4 degre Kelvin they then reduce it down lower to a quarter of a degree above kin and then that's the temperature on the focal plane so that they can then look outward into the cosmos and have an you know unfettered view of what's going on so this is getting me suspicious Eric because liquid helium is one of the rare elements that produces Bose Einstein condensate at absolute zero temperatures it's a super fluid so it becomes this liquid where it it creates it gets bosonic uh properties and for the people that are out there they don't know the difference between a firon and a bon is whether or not it can compact down to a single point so a firmon would be anything like my phone the structure of the atoms is my phone that means that it all is in separate spots has this mass that I hold on to but when you get to bosonic situations that's like a laser beam where you can focus the photons down to a single point and this is where the idea of a Bose Einstein condensate comes into play now you can see here either our liquefied helium 3 maybe I'm saying the wrong one here they said they found they form two atom Cooper pairs which are bonic and cond condens uh condense into a superf fluid these Cooper pairs are substantially larger than interatomic separation this is also the explanation that we are given on uh super conductivity is that electrons form Cooper Pairs and then when you read the the uses for liquid helium it says it's commercially used for super conducting magnets which the thing that I found from my research is there's two things that are extremely important for Magical technology and number one is super conductivity superc conductivity the idea of the electrons flowing freely and producing a coherent wave is where we're getting some of these macroscopic Quantum effects this is you know when I say macroscopic Quantum just imagine magic happening and then the other thing is we need very small microchips and processors and transistors um and you know this is where if you dig into semiconductor companies there's not a lot of them and a lot of them are in Taiwan and their stock values have just been going straight up into the air so when you tell me that there's 450,000 gallons of rare helium 3 that's been super cool to its uh Bose Einstein condensate levels definitely has got me scratching my head a little bit if anyone out there is listening or watching wants to leave a comment in the chat on YouTube about what they think this might be getting used for um if there is some connection to Super conductivity related to this uh telescope they have would love to hear your guys thoughts um awesome so any other um you know either uh Hardware that might be out there that we're not familiar with or uh is there any other uh stories relevant to the Antarctica um kind of uh time that you spent out there that you think are worthy to know and if not you know what would you want people to know I um you know about your experience I think I think that my experience is similar to everyone else's I'm just connecting the dots faster I think we all are suffering um like the walking wounded in this modern-day Battlefield and I just happen to be um with the team with a crew that became privy to this situation first and foremost and that we're just trying to let everybody else know because they're they're in the same throws of war and I don't want to I don't like seeing anybody get sucker punched and right now everybody's getting sucker punched and it's just not right because people aren't aware of the enemies that they have around them and so then to change gears how did you start to be able to connect those dots when was the point for you where you learned about the capabilities of this type of technology and from me digging into it especially directed energy weapon stuff people think that that's you know wow that's some new technology that's out there but looks like it's been out there since at least the 80s so that might be the old I guess I guess for me officially it would have started with my time um my short exposure to the submarine service back in 1994 and you know these are these are the facts of the matter right when I was in basic enlisted submarine school we watch the movie The huntt for Red October um because it was a teaching mechanism we were educated that Tom Clancy is not an author The Hunt for Red October is not a fictional tale you can add there's so many complexities that come from this truth right um but long story short in the movie The Hunt for Red October which is a documentary for how we got the Seawolf class submarines but there's something mentioned in that movie and that is known as the Magneto hydrodynamic drive that's the most important part of that movie that they just gloss right over but it's it's the technology that allows the Red October to provide that caterpillar pillar drive that silent Drive the interaction of massive amounts of power to the medium of water to provide thrust and flow because so is that right there is the door to walk through when it gets into the concept of propulsion systems that people would consider offworld or UFO or UAP because the only difference for a Magneto hydrodynamic drive on a submarine the the medium of the water going through it is no different from the scientific standpoint then the medium of the atmosphere which is just a l a less dense version of the ocean so it would just simply require more power and it turns out that more power isn't actually a problem like our in military-industrial complex would want us to believe that having power at infinite Amounts is a challenge um when you overcome that obstacle and you have copious amounts of power available for any harmonious system that you want to build I mean literally the sky is the limit is a funny way of putting it because it certainly wouldn't be a limit at that point W that's a really good Insight because I had never really considered the idea that submarines might use this technology but I did watch a couple months ago a YouTube video where someone built one of these um using a 3D printer and they you know made it more and more efficient there was no moving Parts it was just magnets and electrical current and it created a uh propulsion effect and was actually pretty powerful and it looked actually very similar to this picture here on the right um yeah that looks like a hub battery design yeah and my guess is that given if some guy on YouTube was able to put one together that you know produced like you know you could see the thing moving like pretty fast that the the Navy and the government with their defense contractors probably can make some pretty incredible stuff with this so this was your first for okay in The Hunt for Red October and you experienced that so you if I'm gathering correctly you saw some crazy stuff with your time uh you know working on submarines and that led you to you know ask the question what are we really capable of absolutely yep I I became aware in 1994 that Los Angeles class submarine was pretty much the greatest Testament to the technological advancement of man that almost no man will ever get to see that there was stuff going on that people it was just beyond their understanding and and we know this stuff we know this is how the government works we know this is how our money gets invested I'm just letting folks know that yeah I happen to get my foot in the door in the submarine service and witness firsthand that yes it's nuts how far ahead of the curve they are that's wild and I have heard some rumors that some submarines might even use some types of overunity devices because the benefit there is you're not there's no like electromagnetic signals coming out from your your submarine the idea is you want to be quiet in your submarine right you don't want anyone to be able to know and quiet by definition is just uh not putting out observable frequencies by any definition so if you can switch your frequency to something that's not being observed well there's a win yeah so guys I hope you're listening to this we might be giving away military Secrets here um but I think our adversaries already know about it so hopefully we're just educating the public if there are any government people every everything I do is for we the people of this planet because unfortunately lunatics by every definition have decided to represent we the people of this planet as if we're all against each other which is obviously not the case yeah we the common people on this planet have everything in common and we deserve better than what the lunatics that pretend to represent our best interest have been providing with the money that we've invested towards them and that's something we have not failed them yeah that's something my buddy uh Jake Chanley uh has said a lot I've run across him he was he's known as the uh the shaman of January 6 but turns out he's a really smart dude and one of the big questions I asked him is well is it safe to get this technology out to the public I I quarreled with it internally myself uh he came back and said well the worst people on the planet already have it so how how can it get any worse than that might as well let some of the good people have some access yeah right yeah I can follow that logic a th% I believe that um we the people are way more resilient way more adaptable to the truth than those that would withhold it want us to believe and these statements to the opposite that you know oh people would freak out people couldn't that's that's part of the paid propaganda to get people to believe that we the people can't handle any real of course we can handle any reality it's reality we're real people we're part of it we'll always be able to deal with the punches for life let them rip let's just let's see what's really going on and watch how rapidly the people can mitigate any problem that they become aware of so how do you think do you have any thoughts on how to get this information out there um to the people like uh the Y files just did a big episode about free energy and they said well uh just make the schematics publicly available you know don't patent it um I'm not sure I necessarily agree but and I'm not sure there's any easy answers but what is your thought I I think that I kind of do lean in the direction of that suggestion because it does seem that open- sourcing stuff would be the faster Avenue to the Freedom of Information and the use of the people with that being said the question in general like what do I feel to do about this stuff um is just continue to fight the fight I have been trying to get the truth out for a few years now and what I'm learning again in this is this is my direct firsthand experience that I need to warn all of the listeners about there the vast majority of these content creators are shills charlatans conmen profiteers federal agents you name it what they don't care about is the truth what they do care about is is who likes them and making sure that they um speak stuff that's pleasantries because they don't want to offend any part of their demograph wow that was really well put I might have to clip that later because that's exactly how I view um a lot of the UFO Community a lot of the podcasters and reaction tubers there are some real ones that are out there and I appreciate them a lot but I have far between yeah it's few and far between it's a lot of people is a problem is once you put the profit motive in there and I call it the Reddit syndrome as well where it becomes less about what you're saying and whether or not what you're saying is the truth and more about how what you say makes people feel and yeah it's like a post-truth world at that point it's oh you're telling me everything's all love and light and if you don't raise your frequency high enough you're not going to impact anybody positively because you're so big and mean yeah it's just it's it's ridiculousness at this point and to me these are just other programs that have been inculcated in our society to you know slow the role of the energies of people that are trying to do the right thing yeah so tell me how did you obviously you're somebody who I think is a proponent of Tesla and his theories out there I think that anyone who digs into this will very quickly find Tesla and realize this goes back to him and that he probably is one of the smartest people out there what was your first experience with finding out about Tesla oh jeez um being being from Long Island Tesla to me is a big deal his Warden Cliff facility was right there on the North Shore of Long Island and a lot of students of Tesla will tell you that he said that you know there are certain points on this planet that are better for the study of energy than others Tesla identified the area on Long Island that he called Warden cliff and apparently nobody's ever disagreed with him on this location because you have the shm nuclear power plant which is a Stones throw away and you have Brook Haven National Labs also Stones throw away so apparently the study of energy on the East End of Long Island right where Tesla said was a good spot to study it there's just ongoing studies um by different factions and different names so I think there's a lot to be said about where he was coming from in his understanding of I would say the harmony of nature around us versus what a lot of people like to call science because science often times has a lot to do with our limited observations whereas folks like Tesla were working in Realms which afforded and understanding that there were certain mystery aspects that were being utilized in the equation and although you can certainly lack um calculations so to say to these mystery Sciences or understandings there were still certain observations that you couldn't deny so contemporary science wants really hard to um answer everything when real scientists function from a direction knowing that you have to be able to operate with certain voids of information that will always be there those are the Mysteries we don't get to answer certain questions but yet that's the reality that we function in and it's observable yeah and that's what science is I think a lot of people forget that science is the study of observable reality a lot of people in today's day and age think science is whatever their favorite science influencer YouTuber tells them which is not how science works it's the other way around science is the scientific method developing a he's the physicists at South Pole I mean these are some of the the biggest brain physicists on the planet working these experiments right and I would I would hammer them with a cold hard fact because everybody you know they get Egos and stuff like that and I would say you know you do realize that the only thing a physicist can tell you of value is what they just saw that's all they do and everybody wants to make it out like it's some big deal but all they're doing is observing something and defining what they saw well thanks Guy so how did you find out about Thomas Bearden because I know that's a a you know a a synchronicity I hate using that word but I guess I'm GNA use it that you and I both have as we both found out about Thomas I found out about Thomas beard many years ago with an exceptionally peculiar client that I had and it was in this interaction back and I guess this would have been a prox 2004 or five that I met this person and he started educating me on the Thomas bearded information a lot of stuff about um Nicola Tesla what the current state of our technology was at that time that we were discussing things and where Tesla technology was already permeating into um some aspects of the military-industrial complex uh as an example Le would be the um oh there you go that's um that's the basement from the client that I went to his name was Toby circus Balentine and he is a man with quite the reputation in family history in regards to the alphabet agencies such as the OSS in World War II and also the creation of the CIA right on the heels of World War II so those are those are two Tesla coils in that image that were both um in his basement when I first arrived to do work for him and he was quite the character I think that's just incredible that you show up to somebody's house and then they got Tesla coils in their basement and telling you about Thomas Bearden you know that that to me is wild especially he literally sat me down and we would we would watch videos he was he was he was a very Innovative person Toby so when we would watch videos he had also gone in so far as his he had a he had a projector screen but right in front of the projector screen he had put down he had purchased a large piece of like um like window screen like if you were going to repair your own window screen so he had a large section of this material and he had it hung a few inches in front of the other projector screen so that when he projected um it caused a 3d effect and this was like his own way of making his own little 3D projector so it was you know the the the screen in the front with the projector screen to the rear and there was a difference in depth from the one to the next and it was a it was a a functional workaround to give you like a 3D image so I mean this is what it was like dealing with Toby is that everything was um a bit more intelligently done that sounds like holography which is very interesting because Optical phase conjugation is how you get to holography and from digging to the um MH370 investigation in case I I I found out about holography and Optical phase conjugation from the Thomas beard and stuff and then I found out about macroscopic phase conjugation which is do you remember um way back when when National Geographic first had sticker appliques on the cover that showed Holograms MH so when I was a plumber on Long Island I had a a client I had the weirdest CL I just I it was amazing all the different people that I met one of the people I met I worked in the guy's house he had his laboratory set up I looked at this guy shooting lasers across his lower level of his house it was in like mutton toown or something but he was the holograph that the National Geographic tapped to make those covers that was him really yeah it's weird how there's this stuff that seems mundane that we just see it and we don't think twice about we just go well that's cool looking but you never think about like how does that how do we actually do that why is that a thing that we can make a hologram like that I worked I worked at a laboratory in saset on Long Island that at the time they were working with sheets of glass and a liquid crystal in between the panes of glass and they were trying to make the Liquid Crystal have letters show up like a computer screen it was it was just the dawn of liquid crystal display laboratory work and I was there working on a sink listening to the scientists scream and yell at each other trying to make it work that's funny um so I want to talk a little bit about suppression and the a the all domain anomaly resolution office so you told me before in a preall that you actually talked to the a Aro what was your experience like talking to them and what is your impression of I thought that the gentlemen at Arrow were decent folk that got dealt cards it seemed like they were generally interested in the information that I was putting forth it seemed like they had a general appreciation for the veracity of my statements and the documentation that I presented to the point that the conversation came full circle and they quite bluntly asked me what are they supposed to do in the future when they run information like mine up their chain of command that they absolutely believe that there's you know information like mine and other information out there they said what do they do when that stuff just gets wholly ignored which was what they were anticipating is that you know they're getting good Intel but they're not going to be allowed to do anything with this and they just basically said like you know like like human being to human being like what do you think we should do and I just told them straight up I said you you need to quit your jobs and start working for the right team I said that's just that's just how life goes I said if you if you're going to ask me that's my answer if if you're taking good Intel and you're going to watch it get brushed under the rug I said you you only have one direction to go and I said that's as you know as far away from this as possible POS you know that was my interaction with them as well is that I remember the guy that called me in in January and he was telling me about the football game because it was like you know national championships and bulll season going on and you know it was just like talking to a normal guy which was great but um it did you know he I talked to him a little bit about some of these like February shootdowns from last year which were this UFO event that happened and you know he's kind of telling me Oh no that was just balloon and what have you and I'm sitting there just going man like I feel like this guy is never going to be allowed to tell the truth about what we are really technologically capable of which made me a little bit sad you know how do you think do you think that that is a main uh mechanism of suppression or I guess the better question is how do you think that they are suppressing this information I think um so many people are job scared that they found themselves in circumstance that they don't feel financially free to exercise the decisions that they want to make and I think that's something that we need to pay attention to the mechan of society around us because I believe that most people will find that they themselves have allow themselves to get into such a circumstance and this is one of the main control me mechanisms of society in general I mean everybody was threatened with losing their job if they didn't wear a mask so they put a mask on I mean it was it was pretty obvious that there was an operation going on yeah so money worked money that's all it really takes it takes away somebody's job you threaten them with their job um and you know I work in healthcare it uh um I'm no big proponent of wearing masks I personally think it's silly I don't think that I don't believe in my Asma Theory and I don't think that a cold virus is going to be stopped by a cloth mask over my face but I did wear them when I went to the hospital because they made us wear them and I I like having my job and I didn't want to lose it um so I think that that's a that's an underappreciated aspect of how this is kept quiet you know my opinion is that there's not as many people out there that know about this that what as what people think um and therefore you know a lot of people just do whatever they is going to give them that paycheck and then they go home y but what about the idea of you know do you think a lot of people are under ndas related to this technology or you know what's your thoughts in terms of I think a lot of people have I think a lot of people have absolutely found themselves in some sort of non-disclosure situation um which also gets them right back to having their their finances threatened so it just it's par for the course nowadays that people will gladly sign an NDA on the front end having no idea what that means on the back end and you know what that means for We the People is that we're getting Bamboozled six ways from Sunday because it's going to take some really bold people to step up against these ndas um one of the things that I was interesting about the work that Greer did recently was that he made folks realize that you know if if you sign an NDA or an organization that's involved with illegal activity well the NDA doesn't mean anything then because nobody you know it just it doesn't work like that so I think that's another thing for folks to consider is that if the stuff that you are covering up is not good stuff well then the NDA probably doesn't apply anyhow I mean these are people that should just be charred and one thing I heard I think it was on a space the other night is that people were saying well if people are doing illegal stuff who's going to prosecute them anyway well I think a lot of people don't realize that like people who are doing the prosecuting are also under the thumb of everybody else and they don't want to lose their jobs either did you have to sign an NDA with the arrow in your thing with them or at all I I signed I signed an NDA with arrow for the provision that I would not speak about the location of the facility or the people um that were questioning me got other than that I am free to discuss any and every other aspect about my meeting with them because this again this is this is where people don't realize is that you know everybody wants to say you know oh this guy's full of crap because if this was the case he'd be dead but you you know what that's just all cowardly crap and the fact that I'm here doing what I'm doing uh is is actively thumbing my nose at all the people that say that cowardly crap we as individuals have a lot of power and people need to start exercising it could I have gotten shot in the back of the head when I entered a skiff for the Senate intelligence committee or Arrow you know technically yeah I could have but I still had something to do I still had things that had to be said so I went and lo and behold I'm fine so all this baloney about you know you if this guy was legit if he had something to say that's that's part of the program to keep people from talking I'm I'm here living testimony saying if you know something that's going on if what that faction is doing that you're aware of is to a detriment to the vast majority of the people on this planet if you don't speak up fast and furiously you are part of the problem and people will be coming to get you that's a good point and that coincides with what Arrow told me presuming that I haven't I'm skeptical about everybody I talk to now because I've been scammed and what have you but they only thing they told me was they said I can talk about anything related to our conversation and this was just over a phone call but that they didn't want me to reveal their names uh which makes sense I mean they get a lot of lot of hate out there um what was the experience like when you met with arrow you know uh in terms of like they were experience was they were extremely appreciative of me spending time with them and explaining what my observations and understandings were of what was going on at the South Pole station it appears that there are aspects of our own government whatever you want to call it our checks and balances system that have run a muck I I mean I can't argue that again this is all easily observable but with that being said it appears that there are concerned aspects of our government that are completely aware of Rogue factions and activity that have sprung up through our own systems that are now going on without oversight and there are people that want to reel this back in but there is uh a substantial amount of bureaucracy even to such a noble task and how secretive was uh you don't I don't want to know specifics about where the location was but you know were there people armed guards outside where you had to go in and meet with them or was it more unassuming uh in terms of oh so the um for the Senate intelligence committee it was right at The Heart Building so it it was a known location it was their headquarters and um good luck trying to get in there yes um but then the the other facility um I was gagged on discussing the location but what I could state is that it was just it was how do I put it it was um a right under your nose location in the middle of civil ization some place you never expect would be there was no signage up that said top secret there was no barb wire fence there was no official guard you could walk right into this building and out of it you would have had no idea and this is um these are the types of facilities that I have oddly enough found myself in through my entire career on Long Island was I was always coming across these weird fac facilities so then you know when it came down to this Arrow testimony I was there with um my roommate who was also stationed at the south pole with me she was also coming to give testimony um when we entered the the building I immediately pretty much soon as we walked in we took a few steps and I was like come here come come here walk right back outside come here and um I clarified her I said you remember all those different facilities that I told you about on Long Island I said said watch what's about to happen when we go back in this building I said you saw it said we walked in took two steps in I said it look like a regular building right she goes yeah I said watch what's going to happen and then we proceeded to go through the motions of you know go in go to this elevator Bank hit this button hit that and next thing you know it was like full-blown it was like to start to get smart with all the different barricade doors and this opens and that opens and now all of a sudden there's a a massive amount of security personnel and Pat downs and questions and wanding and this person is officially from the Secret Service and this person is here to you know check on behalfs of this person and this person needs to check on behalf of there's all different organizations giving security inspections to represent different departments that have access to the conversation that's about to occur and it was just it was you know it was a sight to see it was there was a lot going on that day that's awesome man I think that's just a fun anecdote for people to understand because it shows how it's just hiding in plain sight you know it's a good analogy to the technology as well the technolog is hiding in plain sight as well you know we looked today during this conversation that all these websites that are showing technology lockie Martin's websites has a whole section undirected energy weapons that are out there um and people think that it's not possible or it's just magic and it's not just possible but it's been in effect for decades you know the Magneto hydrodynamic Motors and the submarines that Eric found out about in the 90s guys this is a long way out there and they say well why would they just kill Eric or kill me and the stuff that I'm talking about because that's not how it works you know General Flynn mentioned on a space he said well there's a lot of forensics nowadays you know if they kill somebody there's a lot of evidence Left Behind somebody's got to go do the deed as well and you got to silence that person and you know maybe they did that more in the 60s and 70s and what have you and maybe the 80s but now it's just a matter of disinformation it's matter of disc's another thing for folks to consider in the grand scheme of keep hope alive uh the other reason I'm not dead because I'm on the winning team that's how that works in life too yeah is that currently there are folks that are scared shitless of what I'm going to do next or who I might divulge the next conversation that occurred yeah well a lot of people lot of lose right that's a reality too that people haven't considered um is that yeah there's there's a lot of activity going on there's all kinds of different factions doing all kinds of different things and I would assume that if somebody wanted me dead I'd be dead or if someone was scared shitless to make a move on me I'd be alive I'm currently alive me too thankfully so Eric I I really appreciate the conversation that we've had here today um I find your story uh you know very interesting I I do find that there's a lot of credibility to the stuff that you say you know you don't go out there and make a bunch of claims that are unknowable information you know you make claims that is uh science that can be looked into that can be verified uh and I wish that Arrow would look into what's going on in Antarctica and with these defense contractors because I think that they'll find the stuff that you're saying even some of the opinions that you've made about what's possible with the technology I think they'll find that it is true as well and that the public deserves to know that so in the last few minutes I'd like to give you opportunity to uh plug anything that you want to plug I know you've got your website deciphering dotv where people can watch a lot of Clips go over your experience um see a lot of the uh scientific references that you post out there um and then is there anything else that you want to tell the audience or anybody else that might be in your shoes or our shoes let's say uh disclosing information and and what advice you would give them I I would appreciate if folks can go over to deciphering dotv um that is my website that's my my platform for freedom of speech so I hope to do what I can to get more information out there and it'd be appreciated I'm just trying to trying to help get the truth out there so more things coming from deciphering dotv in the not too distant future as I try to grow a platform to help others get the truth out there but with that being said you know what what can we do now something that we can start today together to make a better future for all of us is what I call become unmanageable because contemporarily we as a group of individual consciousnesses have basically become too manageable and they are managing us um to our own detriment so I would ask everybody in the audience do whatever you can to become unmanageable I appreciate the advice and I think the audience does as well Eric Hecker everybody Antarctica advanced technology and suppression thank you guys very much for joining us here tonight um also we got to get you Eric we got to get you on X Man X is the place to be these days a lot of people in the chat were asking about getting you into a space you know interacting with you I don't know what your opinions on are e on are about on Elon but um it seems like it's the least suppressed place out there um I think it can help to grow your the knowledge that you're trying to push out there to the world so thank you everybody appreciate y'all and have a good evening thank you sir