MH370 & Free Energy X Space

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# MH370 & Free Energy X Space [Music] out in the fields where the skies are wide talking about a journey through the cosmic ride Einstein and Thorn they set the stage for trip through time across the Space Age worm holes connect distant points in space traversible paths to a far off place no black holes pull no crushing weight just a cosmic tunnel to a distant gate talking worm old Stargates negative energy travel through the cosmos it's our destiny MH370 where did it go B Triple S through a wormhole but we're talking Wormhole Stargates negative energy travel through the cosos it's our destiny MH370 where did it go B Trip 7 through a wormhole flow [Music] [Applause] [Music] exotic matter negative energy the key to stabilize the Wormhole for you and me Quantum vacuum squeeze so tight creating conditions for this wondrous flight static fields and lasers in the lab they play generating forces in a new kind of way gravitational squeezing Castle me Force negative zones we need to stay the course talk worm star Gates negative energy travel through the cosmos it's our destiny it Mak 370 where did it go bow and Triple 7 through a wormhole FL s shell formalism play so fine spherical geometry we realign energy conditions that we must defy for a stable Wormhole let's give it a try [Music] on forces balancing the plat creating the throat opening gates from Earth to the stars in a single bound a shortcut through space profound engineers and dreamers hold the key to Future worlds and what we could be with science and hand we Forge ahead through the cosmic paths that we now [Music] tread we're talking wormo Stargates negative energy travel through the cosmos it's our destiny it Mak 370 where did it go B Triple 7 to a wormhole flow from the fields to the Stars we break the chains understanding the universe we make the gains l will crunk shines bringing truth to light through this music we'll explore the night with worm holes and Stargates our path is clear exploring the cosmos our future [Music] here what up everybody Welcome to the stream tonight appreciate you guys mods in the house William Bill nice to see you man hey everybody I'm glad everyone's here tonight with us we got a good audience already uh people jumped in uh early on um uh Kimberly James says Ashton drop a link for the song yeah let me find that for you guys real quick uh so we got a space starting in 10 minutes so if you guys are interested in MH370 if you're interested in scaler physics if you're interested in free energy that space is starting up in 10 minutes and uh I was going to go over the counterfactual teleportation protocol before that but we're going to just chill before that answer some questions because uh I'm probably have to do a eat a little bit of food here before we get going I'm I'm a little bit behind uh but no big deal so let me find that link to the song for you guys first and thanks everybody for being here um so if you've been following along guys we've been we've been blowing up man on uh social media it's been wild so here's the link the link to the song is actually on YouTube so I just put the link to the song in the chat you can see it in the bottom of the screen right here if you want to check that out uh go for it uh the space tonight's probably going to be I'm going to probably try to keep it to somewhere around two hours uh just because I'm you know exhausted but this is the first space that I've done in a while I joined a random space with tupacabra earlier and like 200 people joined just from like me jumping on the speaker panel which is pretty wild I think that it means that there's going to be a lot of uh interest tonight sorry let me get my thing set up here so it looks better I hate this thing I like sticking out um yeah and so yeah we'll talk about the ether as well guys so guys there's going to be uh potentially some big news coming up here as well uh things are rapidly advancing there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes that I'm not talking about I hate I hate saying that in general because like you know I feel like one of these UFO wannabe celebrity people when I say stuff like that oh like hey because you know you never know what's going to happen things change uh but yeah I have been making connections with people uh making plans with people trying to get this information out there and I'm going to try to be as honest and open about everything as I can and when I have uh some more news to give updates on I will do that uh but I I truly believe that this community has the capability to change the entire world I really believe that and uh we're going to give it our best shot and we're going to see you know like 50 Cent would say uh we're going to go for it or we're going to die trying that's that's how it's going to play out there's no there's no in between we're all in on this right there's no there's no backing out and I hope that if we uh prove to the world that free energy is possible that people will realize that means there must be an ether and that means these videos are real guys if I'm able to prove to the world that free energy is possible then the videos have to be real right I mean I would never have gone down this people would call it Rabbit Hole or this adventure of Discovery unless those videos are real like that is what led to all of this so I'm going to put that on while I answer some questions here while we get ready for this space tonight it's going to be a great space tonight guys I'm really looking forward to it uh may love and Dustin are a couple of the first people on Spaces that I ever ran into uh in you know while I was early on trying to dig into this and um uh you know try to get the truth out there uh so these are some people I want to pay back all the people that have followed and helped this investigation reach the point that it is including the podcasters the xace hosts everybody that's followed along from the beginning um because truly there's no way that we would have ever gotten this far without all of these people this is one day in the future this story will make an absolutely incredible movie like absolutely incredible um I I look at it like it's kind of like the Facebook movie you know where like you watch the Facebook movie and you're an outsider and you don't know what the story of Facebook was and then you watch it on the inside you're like whoa this was crazy and dramatic this is like a hundred times crazier than that I mean we're talking like everyone thought it was crazy we got this whole UFO Community drama and the trolls and the debunkers and it ends up leading to free energy so tonight's uh xace is going to be pretty awesome I'm going to answer all questions in the xace so if you want to answer question ask questions uh you can jump in and you can um you know ask me whatever you want as long as it's not going to get somebody killed I'll answer the question let's leave it at that so uh as I always I've been as open as possible about it if even people want to ask questions about you know debunk stuff I'll even address that if people want um although at this point I think we've addressed all the debunkers for a while um super position proves ether exists I don't know I mean super position is pretty damn crazy this idea that like you know schinger schinger cat the idea that uh the double slit experiment I believe that wave pilot theory is the most likely explanation and it's funny because I think it was bom that came up with that as in aof bom uh and you know these are all these little connections where like logically and intuitively the same things that I had thought were the most likely aspects in physics before I dug into all this end up being the things that are you know the things that have been suppressed and hidden whatever however you want to think of it who do you think would Play Your Part in the movie um who was it that they said uh what was the dude from uh Sheldon or whatever from The Big Bang Theory what's his name guys or probably someone like Michael Sarah or Jesse Eisenberg how funny would be if actually Jesse Eisenberg plays me in a movie about m 370 when I'm like oh it should be like the Facebook movie that would be too funny guys um I think what I'll do is I'll wait for the space to start while other people are talking I'll just eat my sandwich that I've got going on here my my WP that I've got going on so that way you guys won't have to listen to me eating uh so there's the first video guys this video right here like we're literally looking at it's even hard for me to believe it's even hard for me to believe as the guy disclosing this is that we're literally looking at the first ever publicly available filmed Wormhole this might be the first ever filmed Wormhole ever like we don't know I mean maybe there's other stuff that the military's got out there but this is the first one that's been ever seen in the public in high quality Ryan goling goling playing me would be like so bizarre Bert Reynolds there you go Bert Reynolds there there was a drink called The Bert Reynolds we used to drink uh right after I graduated in my first job and it was uh joerger and Red Bull it's like the worst things you can possibly put in your body uh we would call it the Bert Reynolds with the mustache that would be great Johnny Knoxville Johnny Knoxville's Ashen Forbes Johnny Knoxville uh he got in some drama he was tasering um what's his name Andre uh forget Andre's last name Eric Andre yeah the dude from Silicon Valley yeah I forget what his name is you guys pick all the nerdiest people but honestly those are those are pretty good guesses like honestly for who would probably play me in a movie Joseph Gordon levit guys cracked me up dude I might have to make a post there's no way Brad Pit would be the guy I might have to make a post about um like who would play me in a movie Jesse Eisenberg is that's like Aon favorite right for sure too funny guys you guys cracked me up man uh yeah uh just to confirm we are absolutely in the apocalypse um guys I can't rule it out at this point because if you had told me a year ago I'm going to be disclosing warp drive and wormholes and what happened to MH370 and somehow this would lead to free energy I would not believed it so to me at this point us literally being in the apocalypse right now is not something I can rule out I actually can't even rule that out um pretty wild guys so so it's it's nuts guys oh man I really don't know what's going to happen like we are at an inflection point right now where the attention on social media people are paying attention all the debunkers have been addressed we've got debunkers and MH370 investigators running from us in debates we've got physicists too afraid to even engage us because they're afraid they're going to be wrong and we've got uh like huge influencers like promoting our stuff we've got uh Elon Musk being in trolled about this because he's got a he's got a um an NDA and like he wouldn't be able to talk about this like this is real satellite surveillance footage like he can't even talk about this we've got Andrew Tate is following me on on Twitter Andrew Tate the Andrew Tate like the guy who all the drama about the Romanian uh sex work stuff and getting completely attacked one of the biggest influencers in the world he's got over eight million followers he only follows 800 people and he's following me we've got a general following me General Flynn literal General Flynn Timothy uh chalom or whatever you say his name that that would be yeah okay guys there's actually more possibilities for who would play me in a movie than I would have thought ter Terence Howard yeah you know what Terence Howard like whatever man let's just race swap it I don't care whatever I'm I'm Progressive man don't matter to me let's have you know let's have a redheaded woman Play me Let's just do it oh oh here we go uh ven what has knocked you guys what kind of what kind of currency you guys think that is everybody guess in the chat uh I'll throw another Discord invite while we're waiting the the space should start any minute now so I'll jump in there in just a second okay we're do a new Discord invite once again guys the discord's getting like big like that's why I'm only doing like 25 at a time um so I don't want people trolling people are going to start arguing because you know you just get more and more diverse people in general that are in the Discord so please just don't argue much uh it may be harder for me to address some of the comments because like the Discord is there so many messages now so I apologize if I'm not um yeah Jagger bombs yeah Jager Bomb Bert Reynolds but we would drink the Jagger bomb like as a literal drink like with with Like the Jagger and the Red Bull like like a literal drink that you would sip on that's how degenerate we were back in the day uh hi from Australia Australia so this is what I want to tell the Australians as well the Australians led the search into MH370 and they were the ones like just them and the Malaysians got screwed over by the United States my country the most we just sent these people on a wild goose chase hundreds of millions of dollars uh you know and and and found literally nothing so there's the Discord again yeah if you don't want to do the Discord you don't have to it's no big deal guys especially if you're on X or whatever um oh that was Norway okay thanks a lot man uh thanks for the uh I don't know whatever Norway dollars are appreciate it oh JL thank you very much do you pay attention to the pole shift um not really because the way I look at the pole shift stuff like it's all over man if the pole shift stuff happens like that's there's nothing we can do about it like it's just straight up game over okay I'm searching for the space real quick uh so that's the reason why it's like you know whatever if if poll shift happens and the apocalypse comes then there's really nothing we can do the good news that I would say is that if that's going to happen like this um maybe we have the technology to prevent it from happening now I don't know maybe that's why we monitor the polls I just really don't know guys okay where's our space looks like it hasn't quite wait that's not even it that's trans ideology oh ma love she's going on trans ideology okay here we go we're we're we're going in let me share this actually we got the music going so nothing's happening in the space yet I'll wait a second until the space like starts up and then we will uh flip over to it but I've got it up on the side here right now so I'll answer more questions while we do that oh so the four orb sign just just arrived like literally that's why I haven't eaten my food yet I had to go run and grab the for orb sign because it just showed up I'm looking at it right in front of me over here I've got unpack it but forbin might be debuting as early as tomorrow but probably not until this weekend I'm gonna get my dad is like big into like you know uh Home Improvement stuff so I'm gonna get him to like help set up my new streaming setup so I'm gonna I'm gonna make him come help me out I'm I'm a nerd I don't really do the Home Improvement stuff I need I need my so I'm gonna make him come over and help me out um I think that the objects the recent leak on Reddit from the other day I I was told by a very credible source that that was legit okay looks like we're going here I think Bob Lazar is probably right we'll see though we have 450 people already in here okay here we go I hope you are ready to challenge everything know and we're taught about physics and energy and probably a million other things that like I'm not even prepared for yet um this this one is one I've been looking forward to for a long time Aston I don't think we've talked probably in like six or seven months um I've seen you everywhere I've seen you out grinding and just how many people I remember when you when I first met Ashton um he he came into like one of the conspiracy spaces I was just like MH370 you guys have have you seen these videos and right was just incredbly that like we had to pay more attention to what was going on I remember we finally did and it was like wow it's like one of those like you can't even believe like even when you're deep down the conspiracy trenches right and you're you're willing to think outside the box on everything MH370 and the the detail it how do I add stuff to I want I I want to get to aead myself because like I'm I I know Ashton has just literally nonstop been like doing the research building it out I texted it to ma we'll see her here in a couple minutes I'm sure we have some other like high-profile guests potentially coming like we we we reached out to the network deep because I'm not kidding I I I believe in this space we will challenge everything like if you've been following Ashton basically your whole concept of reality has to be like kind kind of gone back over like I I don't even know how to put it and Ashton why don't you why don't you introduce yourself to people like how you came into this field in particular um and then what we'll save like diving into MH370 and the rest of the deal for a couple minutes but introduce yourself to people yeah Dustin thanks a lot for having me today man um I think this is gonna be an awesome space I'm also live streaming if people want to watch that you can check it on YouTube you can check it on the X channel so we're blasting this all over um man it it is been the most incredible journey I don't think there will be anything in my whole life as incredible as this journey has been and I'm so happy that I've been able to meet people uh like Dustin like Maize like everybody else who's been following this journey I've met and talked to people that without this I never would have talked to him my entire life and I remember the early spaces where I was like you know pushing these videos and trying to investigate what happened to the plane I wasn't really sure and I would join every space I could find that was about conspiracies and UFO stuff because I didn't know what the hell was going on and people like Dustin and Ma like gave me a chance they were super nice as well as many other people that were out there um and and without this Grassroots movement we would never have gotten to where we're at right now like I can't believe when I look at my own followers like 135,000 followers like just to put that in perspective I used to have 30 followers last August 30 and they were mostly just Bots like I was never a social media guy or anything like that um I was just one of those lurkers you know and so this has been wild uh what I want to say is that there was this disclaimer that I used to say early on because I was so adamant that I didn't want people to be able to set a narrative I'd seen all and a lot of you guys are going to be familiar with this concept but that there are a lot of people that you know they get vilified when they come out and they try to disclose stuff that seems Incredible or if they're just influencers in general you know they just they get attacked they get discredited look at Elon Musk Elon Musk buys Twitter and they try to first like not allow him to buy it because the government wants to be able to control it and then when he gives them a super offer that's like way too good then they force him into Buy in it and then they just vilify him and convince people that love donon musk that he's the devil because he's bought the took the one censorship apparatus away that now we have one space where we can speak freely about stuff without being censored by the government you know and so I was afraid of that so I came up with this disclaimer it's kind of corny now which is why I don't really say it that much but I want to go through it again just because of how far we've gotten so you guys can understand the mindset and early on I was scared I was looking at these videos and like these videos might be real and if they are they have been covered up there's been this giant conspiracy at this point I'm 100% sure these videos are real and there is a giant conspiracy but I've learned more about the nature of the censorship and you know what the government will do to it's mostly discrediting so what I would say is that early on said this is not qanon this is not to distract from the UAP hearings I support grush because all these UFO people love David grush I would say this is not to distract from Trump or from Biden this is not political except the co except the cover up which is of course I would say this is not a hoax this is not disinformation or misinformation uh I used to say that I was not a spy as well I just said that I'm a normal guy who had 30 fake followers a week ago and this was when I you know this was back in August I wrote this and now I have nearly 1,600 that was again back in August you know we've come a long way since then um I want to tell the truth uh I'm pushing this but it came from the community meaning this was a community-led um investigation especially at the beginning I am just their voice uh and and that's what I've always thought myself as you know I've always thought that anybody could be this person and what I've wanted is for people to take this as a template for how we can expose corruption in the future and how we can look and the people in the UFO Community out say how you can look at stuff that's out there and watch how the disinformation apparatus works that tries to convince people that stuff is fake I used to tell people early on that if these videos are real then we can watch what the how people react to them and how they try to censor them and hide them and we've been doing that for the last nine months we've watched these debunks come out of nowhere we've watched uh Youtubers with millions of followers try to convince their their F their fans to ignore the videos that the videos must be fake Etc um so we've learned a lot on it and then the last thing I would always say is that we're doing this ultimately for the families of the victims and back then I just thought it was just about MH370 right like the families are the biggest part I remember salvator Pas when I interviewed him he goes we have to remember that there was 239 people and their families got no closure on this and the reason why that's so important is because what we've discovered since then is possibly the most profound thing that we could ever discover from videos which is that this technology that's being kept hidden from us that we're calling forbidden technology leads to literally free energy free energy has been suppressed from us I just want you to absorb that because that has the capability of changing everything so that's where we're at here tonight I'm looking forward to talking to you guys answering questions and digging into this whole thing wow ashon so good to see you man and it's been wild to watch your journey and what what what what and Maze good to see you darling one my favorite human beings in the whole freaking world we don't get to do this nearly as much as we used to because I've been caught up building something else that also is pretty pretty epic and wild but maze it it I'm struck when when like Ashton's story is indicative of so much else he brought up David gers and like we had that earlier than everybody else right like we in our conspiracy spaces when they got real big we had the opportunity to like break all kinds of stuff people would come to us and like what's funny is that the journey always leads to one of several places right like it always leads to a question of what reality is of what Consciousness is what energy is and like how we interact with that and so EV every time that you start to expand your your thinking outside the constructs that we're supposed to like think within you always end up at the same like base level discussions like what is this what are we what is going on here and this is such a perfect example because it it starts with a right the MH370 is a Malaysian flight that just kind of like disappeared right like the the official story is it crashed like kind disappeared and then crashed but they never recovered anything and we don't really know what happened with it is that is that generally like what they they they came out with the story as yeah so just for a recap on what happened with the plane so this was 10 years ago and 10 years ago on March 88th 2014 everybody woke up and we were told that Malayan Airlines flight 370 disappeared just straight up went dark and we have no idea where it is and we started this search we were told that this plane disappeared over the South China Sea but we were also told that the plane disappeared at 18 40 UTC and people started doing the math and they're like wait but that plane shouldn't have been over the South China Sea that was like an hour after it would have been over the South Tennessee so right away uh things were very heavily off fiscated and if you listen to the post I made earlier today I'm gonna try to figure out how to post some of this into the the pill or whatever it's called I'm I'm not that great with social media guys um there's this post from Joseph P farell where he actually talked about this idea that um I'm trying to figure how to do this share post I don't really know how to do it guys um maybe you'll be fine yeah okay so um he talked about this idea that like there was this all this aisc and the only reason why you would have all this obfuscation is because something suspicious happened that there potentially would be a cover up and so we find out after like five plus days of searching in the South chin sea with 40 planes and 40 boats that oh no just kidding we we had this radar military radar tracked this plane going back across the peninsula of Malaysia now as part of the investigation what we found is that the people that were searching they actually weren't searching in the South China Sea they were searching over to the West in the Andaman sea in the straights of Mala and nicobar islands and this is weird I think that I'm the only investigation that's shown this there's a video I posted of one of the pilots who was talking about like for some reason the media was talking about the South China Sea but we were searching over to the west and we didn't know why and then then on March uh 13th the Malaysian it first starts getting reported in Western media that this plane turned into the South Indian Ocean us intelligence sources unnamed ones are what led this narrative and then it started come out that oh there's some satellite pings that indicate this plane went into the South Indian Ocean and if you just think about what I just said there with all of this this is not how a situation where there's a a missing plane where there might be you know hundreds of people on rafts somewhere what should go down you know you would think that the very next day all the information should be made public you listen to The Press reports press releases from and the press conferences that were going on daily family members were screaming and freaking out getting arrested throwing stuff at the officials because the officials are just up there lying just straight up lying just saying they don't no and people New York Times literally asks the minister of Transportation can a plane just go dark is that even a thing that can happen and they won't even answer they're like uh we have to well that'll come out during the investigation like what do you mean man my family members might be on a raft somewhere in the middle of the ocean what do you mean it's going to come out investigation because the answer is no you can't just make a plane go dark one person can't just make an entire plane all of the E Equipment go completely silent that's not a thing that can happen but they couldn't even answer basic questions like that um and so ultimately this narrative started to form that somebody had manually flown the plane into the South Indian Ocean so of course the pilot gets blamed they say Well it must have been this pilot he must have been suicidal or a terrorist there was all these fake narratives that came out and it's funny because or not really funny but sad because early on that was like considered a conspiracy theory there was really no evidence of and still to this day there's no evidence of pilot suicide but now after 10 years this narrative begun to form that this was pilot suicide if you ask most people out there that's probably what they'll end up saying but there's really absolutely no evidence whatsoever of it this uh turnaround this pilot doesn't doesn't go into the air to exfix everybody there's no evidence that he locked anybody out of the of the plane um he goes to the nearest airport to land the plane in an emergency scenario which is not what you do in a suicidal scenario and if you're suicidal you just crash the plane you don't you don't fly around on an eight hour Joy Ride and if you're trying to disappear the plane you fly to the east to the Mariana Trench from the south chinae sea you don't fly back over the the peninsula of Malaysia and then down into the South Indian Ocean that's like the last route you would ever take even the simulator data that they claim that if you listen to narratives that there well there's some simulator data the FBI literally ruled the simulator data out as not being suspicious the officials said it wasn't something that could be conducted by the pilot the pilot was ruled out by everybody and so it's kind of absurd that you've got this narrative out there now the most important thing though and this is why we don't even need the videos is that we know that the United States government knows what happened to this plane like Beyond any shadow of a doubt they know what happened to this plane we have satellites everywhere if the plane had crashed anywhere in the ocean on the entire world it would have left a debris field visible from space for multiple days and we have satellites that not not all satellites are stationary some of them are low earth orbit and so they the place that they go to around the Earth changes every time they flip they make one rotation around the earth so most of these satellites end up covering the whole earth like every day so you can imagine that if there's a giant debris field in the middle of the ocean eventually we're going to have satellite that it's not like satellites are real time only we take the data and we send it to these database Farms the database Farms have the images forever and the way that we found out it really works is that they then you can log into them and potentially produce like start like a project up and you can pull satellite data and actually create video playback maybe even 3D video playback so just that alone we know the United States must know but there was more than that too we also found out about the Over the Horizon Radars which Diego Garcia Pine Gap is the like one of the most advanced military bases on the planet and it's in Australia that should been able to see for thousands of miles as well as the Jord system the Ginder operational radar Network in Australia all these Radars should attract the plane from takeoff to Landing there's no chance that we're not tracking the military is not tracking a rogue Triple 7 uh you know flying for eight hours and then there's also this acoustic data which there was a new report just today right before this space in this live stream that uh some I guess scientists in the UK want to explode the bottom of the ocean near the seventh Arc where they think that the plane crashed because they want to test what the acoustic sounds would be like and we don't even need to do that because we know that we would be able to the acoustic sounds are going to detect a plane crashing into the ocean at I think they said 15,000 feet per sec or per minute it's going to blank into a million pieces the acoustic sounds are going to pick it up we know that because the Titan sub imploded that by the Titanic and they had pinpointed the exact location of it and just didn't tell the world for like five days but there's another one as well which was AI lobe he is uh the Harvard uh physicist astrophysicist he went and picked up a couple like metal shavings from the bottom of the ocean near uh where is it like North East of Australia and if you find there's a news article about that and this was in 2014 as well when it when this meteorite crashed into the ocean and apparently he got some information from the dod where they were able to pinpoint the exact location to such high accuracy that he was able to pull off small ball bearings off the bottom of the ocean from a meteorite hitting the ocean so we know that we have the surveillance capabilities that would attract the plane so even before we get into the videos you know what I want people to know is that there's 0% chance the United States government doesn't know exactly what happened to this plane and this is the reason why all the foyer requests to the United States government to whatever agency you send it to into MH370 are always met with an exemption that says it's to be kept secret in the interest of National Defense or foreign policy man there you go you you you you have gotten to the point man where like you you have dropped so much information so fast but what what it I can't wait to dive in and I I definitely like for the sake of people who are relising want to make sure that like we kind of go through like in in some kind of order I see a bunch of people requesting we'll give everybody a chance to like chime in before we do that however like we're going to go through and try to like with Ashton lay out as much of the story as we can before we open it up to questions and like the broader audience so like hang hang tight guys like we see you we will definitely like get people up here um and right like if you get up on stage just be patient until we get through um kind kind of as much of the information as we can then we'll open up because this this is one of those like discussions that's going to touch on so many different like Elemental level topics and the the the Ashton's journey in particular chasing down what happened with the plane you can hear it from like I I I I remember ashon when when we first talked it was very much about like the plane and now it's become very much like more than that and it touches into so many other places so I'm excited you guys please repost the space you are going to like this is going to challenge the way you think in a way that is going to be spectacular you want to get your friends in here because to to to me all the magic always happens when you chase down the mysterious and the unknown and we are definitely going to do that in Spades here tonight so make sure you guys repost the space shout out to all the people on the live stream uh looking forward to what's going to be a very I I've been looking forward to this since we first set it up and Maze feels like old times I can't wait to dive in what you got for us well first of all hello back I didn't get a chance to say that after you um gave me such a nice and warm welcome it is great to be back I'm super stoked to be going over this with you and um you know the whole crew um and to have Ashton here so you know I I really am going to ask everybody to do us a solid and please repost and the reason why is because we have this convergence of like you know all this new I would say Twist on science sorry Noel all these different things that are kind of coming to the surface right now is going to challenge um you know science and and technology in ways that you know I can't even we can't fathom and then it's like it's no coincidence it's no accident I mean we can call it synchronoscope you know it's really difficult to uh you know not really understand like you're able to explain it in a way it's like oh holy [ __ ] and and you know there was a couple things that I think are also important maybe as we're going through this and and one is that um the people the the passengers what was the significance about the passengers um who they were could have potentially uh you know exposed had they stayed alive um and you know and what's also crazy is that like yeah I mean well I'll just leave that one there because I don't want to spoil anything um that that's gonna come later I'll save the second part of the question for later but yeah go ahead let's address the the situation like what's the motive why are they doing this a lot of people ask is you know you've got this drone you've got this satellite filming why are we doing this to a commercial airliner why are we you know sending the commercial airliner through a portal or a wormhole or warp drive or whatever it is going on in those videos those are those are of course some of the first questions that people are going to ask on there and to me there are two prevailing narratives based on the totality of the evidence uh early on I thought well this is a rescue operation because we've I also think proved that there was a fire emergency event on board related to the batteries there's almost 500 pounds of lithium ion batteries and this is not I was talking to this B7 pilot he's like oh we have wheelchair 40 wheelchairs in the bottom of our our planes I'm like these are not [ __ ] wheelchair batteries that we're dealing with here these are batteries stacked up unsafely in uh you know cardboard boxes and they were put together that day and they missed two security screenings when you look at the batteries you go these are clearly like this is the number one uh you know uh suspected reason for what's happening then you find all these Witnesses all see a fire every all these Witnesses every single witness corroborates a fire event and you're like okay obviously a fire that's why he's going to panang blah blah blah well then why uh why the cover up right why are we saying that it went to the South Indian Ocean because clearly the plan's not going to last for eight hours if it's on fire yeah we I talked to experts actually people that have actually testified on Capitol Hill um in the United States and those experts are the ones that corroborated to me that yes this could last for an hour 20 minutes what we needed to last to the reason for the coverup is the videos like that's the reason so I thought well maybe it's a rescue attempt so they get one hour and 20 minutes they deploy the Drone there's these uh exercises going on between the United States and Thailand in that that area right there so you've got your drone somewhere nearby you send it up you have a you find the closest satellite you operationalize it make sure it's angled the right way looking down there and you and you see it uh and we found the satellite that was in the area over the Mala Straits that exact same time when the plane supposedly turns into South Indian Ocean the best part is the location that they claim the the South Indian Ocean is the exact location that we've seen the coordinates in the satellite video which I'm like wait what the coordinates line up with that and there's a real witness down there that's sees the plane glowing orange like this shows the fire so you could say Well they're trying to rescue the plane um and then I thought well there's another narrative as well and if you listen to the other letter that I posted today The Whistleblower letter to Ashton Forbes which is the creepiest thing that's ever happened to me this was a narrative that I had only thought there was like a 5% chance and then after I read that I went whoa this is potentially Espionage Ash so I want to dive into it so but I I I want to lead people into like how you ended up like right having interest this particular story right okay so we can come back to that so so yeah no and because I I think that's next okay but right like for why were you interested in the Malaysian air like the the the flight in the beginning like what first caught your attention about it and like H how how did you first get involved and and right you you you outlined for us some of the things that were suspicious like right out of the game but but why were you paying attention to it in the first place yeah and I mean so I've always just kind of like followed various plane incidents and crashes uh and I've told this on a lot of podcasts that I'm afraid of flying actually and I have been for a long time and so I've always tracked that kind of stuff and when I saw these videos reemerge on uh Reddit which I'm no fan of Reddit whatsoever um but I had lurked there and just kind of watched stuff I had recognized the Drone B I had recognized from seeing the Drone video 10 years ago uh on the internet randomly when I was looking into what was going with the plane because everybody was wondering what the heck happened to the plane and I was never comfortable with what happened to this plane it just the whole like randomly going to the ocean finding nothing made no sense to me I knew the United States government probably had to know and this was before I even knew about our surveillance capabilities the way I do now um and so when I saw the second video and realized there was two videos in perfect synchronization that's what piqu my interest and I was already on this kick where like when I saw stuff online that I thought was being censored or suppressed I would start like saving links to stuff because you have this you guys know how social media works all of a sudden the government starts censoring stuff and it disappears um so I started doing that and I started I used my ex account and I started reposting some of the analysis that started happening on Reddit for like there was about 10 or 11 days every single day it was nothing but an analysis of these videos started posting it to me I was convinced that there was a high degree that they were real when I it had been pieced together that the mouse that comes over the screen from off the screen was a citric session meaning this is a remote terminal login and that somebody was doing a screen recording they were not filming with their camera I had independently figured out from looking at the videos they were not taking their camera and holding it to the screen like when you see a lot of leaks you see someone using their camera to film the screen and that's not what was going on here and I went holy crap whoever did this knew they were going to get caught 100% like there's no you those all have logs on those citric sessions so that's when I started really amplifying everything and I started doing little writeups and links to the content that I found and like Maize said like you know uh if I have any skills one of them is to be able to explain things to people and summarize stuff in in a concise way uh so I started doing that and then I saw the conversation get censored off of Reddit which is exactly what I expected I expected some fake debunk to appear and that people to misrepresent it and say okay you know we're done talking about this no more talking about it and that's exactly what occurred and that's when I took to the and said I'm going to take the reign of this I'm going to start up m370x I I just made up a hashtag and now this hashtag is like you know huge um and I'm GNA investigate every single thing there is about this vide anyone who wants to help can jump along with and this is the part two where I said I'm not gonna let anybody else set the narrative I'm not going to listen to anybody else tell me what to think I'm not going to have anybody tell me this is aliens or this is whatever Artic I was like I'm going to come to my own conclusions about what I see going on in these videos and I'm not going to listen to anybody else and I had to end up blocking a lot of people there's a lot of drama that happened around this people that were even supportive of me because some people were that I had to believe it was aliens in these videos stuff like that and people on the other side too they're trying to convince me no it can't be smoke coming out of the back plan stuff like that I kept telling people don't do that so I did that investigation I'll give you guys a summary of how we got here now real quick we did that investigation I started doing podcasts I would say the bulk of the investigation into what happened with the plane was like four or five months from September to like December or maybe like January uh that was the bulk of like finding new stuff and we had so many Smoking Gun moments like finding the satellite finding out how like the Drone Works finding Katherine T the the fire event all this stuff there's no chance that these videos could be fake but if we're g to find all of this corroborating real world evidence including a whole new story that had never been promoted in the media of the fire event um and from there I started reaching out to scientists like I see Roy de Herbert's up on the panel for example he's a theoretical physicist he was one of the first people that I reached out to because he came into my replies and I'm going why is this physicist like in my replies you know like these people these Engineers scientists started noticing they're looking at these videos and going these videos are consistent with what you would expect from a theoretical physics perspective and somebody told me reach out to Salvador pases I email Salvador PES he's got these they call them UFO patents but they're really not UFO patents um high frequency gravitational wave generator inertial Mass reduction for a trans medium craft and Roy Herbert and I had talked about this idea of mass reduction being the thing that would allow an airplane to be teleported and so I reach out to him the next morning he emails me back and tells me set up a podcast I I didn't have a podcast I barely can maintain it even now so I set it up with him and he just spills the beans I mean I didn't even know what he was talking about back then because I knew so little about electrical engineering at that point uh but I read I went back through it after I've learned so I decid told myself after that interview where if you watch it like I you can tell like I don't barely know what I'm talking about and I said I'm gonna learn electrical engineering people started making fun of me they're like oh he's GNA learn electrical engineering well we've been doing it for over six months so the next phase of this was talking to as many scientists and experts as I could uh including my new my buddy uh Dave Rossi um Bob Greener who's in the low energy nuclear reactions Dave Ross is a DOD contractor an engineer um you know and royy Herbert also spoke to Martin Gibson who I'll get his interview out there as well in the future unification Theory so I start finding out that there's these unification theories of quantum mechanics as well as general relativity that are out there they're just being ignored and suppressed and the more I learned about the electrical engineering the more I realized Beyond any Shadow of Doubt what we're seeing in those videos is real I think the the next big thing that came up was finding the defense intelligence agency papers you guys can find these they're called the dur defense intelligence research documents and there was one called warp drives dark energy and the manipulation of extra dimensions and then another one I may have this a little bit backwards but the other one is traversible wormholes Stargates of energy those two papers alone explain the videos like like what we're seeing in then they're from 2010 four years before the plane disappeared so so so ask can can can you can you take a crack at verbally Des desing what the videos are for people who may not have seen them yet yeah so uh yeah so just to wrap that up then basically we got to the point where the science uh began to check out you know and we had all these people on board with it I've been doing podcasts left and right and then when you look at the videos um you see a plane flying very low we can tell because we can see the cumulus clouds um in the in backround which are only low clouds we found that that weather was in the nicobar islands at the time uh low altitude cumulus clouds are there we see the coordinates in the bottom left which indicate the nicobar islands um and then we see these orbs come flying in now I had initially called them super conductive harmonic orbs because I had seen the whole lk99 metamaterial stuff where you see these floaty rocks and I realized like superc conductivity is is like some kind of magic that allows these Quantum effects to happen on a macro scale macro scale meaning sizes that we can see and the reason why I called them harmonic is because people had mapped the trajectories of them them and they create a perfect equilateral triangle around the plane but they spin around the plane like in a spheral spherical shape like mapping the plane and when you look at it from a graph it's a perfect sine wave and I had electrical engineers start jumping into my replies and they're going that's a 3phase 120 degree zero point system that's going on right there consistent with electrical engineering and recently as well we've noticed that if you were look at the front of the plane you can see the orbs are actually spinning around the plane in a clockwise Orient orentation which if you use the right hand rule in physic or in electrical engineering you find that the vector then of the the the direction of force would be backwards which I thought Eureka because when we look somebody did like a slow-mo of the uh frame right before this Wormhole opens up and the very first frame of the Wormhole and you can see the the tail sticking out of the plane in the very first frame of the Wormhole and it looks like the plane got kind of like sucked backwards and that's the exact thing you would expect from the right hand rule in physics so you see the orbs spinning around the plane they are mapping the plane because they're trying to figure out how big the Wormhole has to be to Encompass the plane and then their orientation changes into a ring formation because and they're completely vertical around the plane because they create a a 2d shape in 3D space which is the minimum like three objects like that to create a triangle is the minimum number you would need in order to create a a 2d shape and a 3D space so people have argue that's the minimum number you need and then Dave Rossy came in and said well there might be a fourth orb and the fourth orb would determine the vector of travel like the exact location where it goes to and stops like a rubber band like you take your rubber band you stretch it out the fourth orb might be entangled like quantum entanglement to the other three and then when you see the orbs Converge on the plane it's consistent with kul's law which is this electric force exponentially increasing as the distance between the charges is reduced and then you get your snap effect where the phase transition begins which is the Wormhole opening up um because what's happening is they're getting their energy levels energy density so high that is actually breaking something called the swinger limit the swinger limit is like I think 10 to the 32 Jews per meter cubed or something like this but the idea for Layman is that like this energy level is so high that it makes space become nonlinear and in layman's terms what that means is you're ripping through the fabric of reality to the underlying framework of our reality so like imagine paint on a canvas so if you have a painting you can't see the canvas because the paint's covering it but if you rip the paint away now you can see the canvas this is the idea of The Ether it's like people ask me what's The Ether The Ether is the underlying framework of SpaceTime right and this is an idea of what is going to lead to the concept of free energy when we look at the Drone video we see the exact same thing in perfect synchronization there's no discrepancies on a single frame in either video so it's like like again if somebody made made these videos they're going to messed up somewhere there's nothing messed up both videos are in perfect sync we see this heat signature in the orb that looks like the Tesla sign and this is consistent with a magnetic monopole uh according to low energy nuclear reactions which is cold fusion and this is something where the alto University paper that first discussed these didn't even come out till like late 2014 2015 after these videos had already come out this is where Bob Greener one of the best videos I have out there is that the videos are scientifically accurate and Bob Greer goes I didn't go back in time and make these videos and like he was like he's on the Forefront of that research not just theoretically but experimentally um so the the heat signatures and the orbs are one of the things where nobody can explain really how A hoaxer would even know what that should look like we even found a department of energy Twitter post that shows the same orb with the same Heat Signature in it I've been posting it and trolling the department of energy and everybody else out there with it because it's like well what why is do you have this orb that looks just like our videos in here and then uh the last thing I was going to say is the dark lines early on people thought there's these dark lines coming behind the orbs and we were able to change the color channel in the Drone video and when we change the colors around we notice the dark lines are not behind the orbs they're in front of the orbs the orbs are creating a geodesic gravity in front of them this is very similar if not exactly the same as alberry warp drive this idea of bending space in front front of you and behind you like they're what's happening is like a conveyor belt they're creating space in front of them and pulling themselves along right or like if you were on let's say a um a sled you know and you kind of drag yourself and drag the sled you know as opposed to walking around but they're doing that with SpaceTime dragging space time around them this is why there's no G forces there's no gravity effect on them this is how they can make the Maneuvers that we see in those videos uh so this stuff like when you start digging into you're like holy [ __ ] this is this is like way too much scientific detail and I'll leave it there for now because what we're going to find is that the more and more I dug into those aspects you get into the idea of The Ether and then once you start digging realizing that okay you've got this negative energy this like fabric of reality then you find out that whoa does that mean that free energy is potentially possible like how did they even get enough energy to cause this to happen and where's that energy coming from and where's the energy from the orbs even coming from you know it's extracting it from the environment so that's the the kind of short description of the videos in general so there's so much like interesting scientific stuff I I I I will openly admit I understood probably like 60% of that um right and so I I'm really looking forward to like hearing you talk about with Roy and some of the other people we have on the panel I would describe it like this like from from the like most BAS lay in terms that you've got this plane it's flying low um all of a sudden these orbs are like circling it right they're clearly like moving though in a way that seems like very odd but synchronized with each other and then poof the plane's gone right that that that you one minute the plane is there these orbs are circling it and then poof the plane is gone and I remember the first time I watched the video being like H how like the way the orb circled it you you could you could almost sense like looking at it the way that they were the the that that the way that they were interacting with the space around the plane that they they they were taking inventory of like exactly what was going on and the synchronicity of like how they move is is really really interesting and almost defies physics by itself like before you know this giant plane just disappears like what one one frame it's there two frames later it's gone and you're like where' the plane go yeah what happened to the plane like where did it go and that that that to me was like the the the the shortest hand version of like the first time I watched I just remember thinking like some something happened to that plan what do you think M yeah real quick I just want to add in there too is that um one other aspect I didn't mention is we see the smoke coming out of the back of the the plane in both videos and people have tried to argue it's contrails but the plane's too low to have contrails be forming so it literally cannot be contrails and that really just makes it have to be smoke when you look at the thermal video you can actually tell that there's a heat signature in the belly we found out that's where the AC exhaust ports are so if there was a fire in like the forward cargo bay you can imagine the smoke going through the air conditioning system and it's being poured out through near the bottom where the landing gear is and what's happening is it's wrapping around both sides of the hle which makes it look like it's coming from the engines but you can tell it doesn't line up with the engines in the thermal and the reason why this is important is because Katherine T in the location right near where the coordinates are sees the plane glowing orange flying low looks like it's attempting a landing which is actually what's happening in the videos with smoke coming out of the back of it and so that's two corroborating sources or three if you consider both videos but then there's another one as well which the day after the plane disappeared uh the China times reported that they had intercepted communication from the plane like must be a classified communication saying that the planee was attempting an emergency landing and disintegrating which is like whoa that's consistent with the videos consistent what Katherine T saw and the same day the plane disappeared they changed the time of the plane disappearing later on the day after they said that subang air traffic control lost contact with the plane at 1840 UTC well where was the plane at 1840 UTC in the location of the videos they changed it later on days later and said oh no military radar lost contact at 182 UTC which is 18 minutes earlier and it's like 300 miles uh Less Traveled so pretty wild go ahead ma well I was just going to highlight because you're bringing up ether and that was also something that was mentioned um in the latest greatest Joe Rogan with Terence Howard but for those of you guys that don't really know what that is it's you know something that was I guess kind of referred to as The Fifth Element and it was actually prevalent this was something in physics back in you know the 19th century and it was hypothetical right but it was basically um what was thought to be filling the empty space um and so it's a medium for the propagation of light and this is something that they took out of physics and and you know they there was some um you know there was a test back in 1887 which I guess disproved it and we have scientist up here so y'all keep me honest I mean I'm just trying to explain do you want to explain it Roy go ahead you probably do better than I would okay well time is more than a moment okay so if we consider time to be a moment a frame as it were okay and we experience that moment as it were and those moments change and as the properties of the moments change we perceive those moments as it were well if we consider that all things in our Cosmos are governed by the laws of conservation be that energy or motion or whatever it is okay well if we apply those roles of conservation to time itself those moments then one can imagine those moments pouring as it were like crins of rice or or sand from your palm and as as that happens conservation kicks in and applies a fluid symmetry to the grains of sand in that fall from your palm um we can see this thing with um the water fountain uh the thing where we have a hot smoke that's being burned by an incense that passes through an aperture and because the smoke shares linear motion it is turned to a fluid flow well that conservational mechanism is overriding the laws of conservation by doing so so this Law of Conservation governs all laws as it were within the cosmos and my idea is consider it to govern time itself now if we do consider it to govern time and provides that fluidity to time as it were that ether as it were in The Fifth Dimension okay so time as it were is a moment but also a greater temporal Dimension that one could consider being The Ether and yes light will propagate through that fluid like mechanical Isa the temporal domain as it were in waves because it holds a fluidity um so there you go so it explains all that and it also now explains gravity because just like with any other flow like a stream for example where we have slowing of the flow of the stream by the Banks we get a passive transversal inertia that is born that gathers the platum to the banks but if we look Midstream in our flow the fastest flow if we were to place a stick there it would travel all the way to the Sea why because it holds no inertia it is the fastest Flow In The Stream as it were so things that hold a much faster relative rate than their surroundings will experience Zer G so now this ansers all the problems with the UAP and that geodisc Independence so how does one become faster in time well some recent results came in for the ligo analysis of a collision that occur between two neutral stars and what we discovered is that those neutron stars even though they are huge okay massive impact and and quite anomalous in their cells in that they hold an extended electron cloud which is a shared property that Quant shares in the electrons that orbit the central nuclei are given the phase of Quant that means that fundamentally the laws of conservation that govern that mechanism as it were and those mechanisms of Applied symmetries apply independently of scale and to did you guys lose Roy or just me yeah we lost Roy for a second yeah okay I'll jump in while we lost him so because I'm gon to add on to what he just said there so the ether is the medium of the propagation of electromagnetic waves why is this important because everything requires a medium so for sound waves which are longitudinal waves as opposed to Traverse waves um that that Medium is air so if you were to go into space and you were to yell no one can hear you because there's air uh water waves they they require liquid in order to propagate as well so what how is it that electromagnetic waves are able to propagate well uh I'm a big proponent of Thomas Bearden and his idea of scalar physics and he would say that electromagnetic waves are longitudinal Through The Ether and this is how they are able to Traverse through space time any any medium that we want potentially now time dilation is also real which is what Roy was discussing and I Ed the interstellar example because I did not know the time dilation was even a thing before I saw the movie Interstellar which is this idea of however much mass you're near it's kind of the relative slow or increase in time is relative based on your which if you're the Observer or you're the person but the main idea is that you're close to a large amount of mass then your relative rate of time is going to be slower than the person who has less Mass so if you're on the planet like in the movie with Matthew mccon next to the black hole which is a huge amount of mass and you are looking up at a space station that is far away it's going to look like that space station is moving super speed relative to you because its time is moving faster than your time and if you on the space station and you're looking down at matth mcah on the planet it's going to look like he's moving in slowmo because he's next to the next to the uh black hole it's really important to understand because then we have to ask a question what even is gravity uh I think that gravity is an emergent property of the interaction between The Ether space time and mass which is very similar to the same Einstein concepts of mass what is gravity go ahead you're back go ahead yeah sorry I I think it was fundamentally too much truth um I was coming out with it might kick me for um yes it is essentially um for Einstein theor of Relativity requires two theories the theory of gen of general relativity and of special relativity for things emotion okay now if we go to the underlying contextual nature of our Cosmos and consider it a bit like an onion as it were and it holding a sauce say that Beyond The Ether as it were um then you know we we can then unify the two of them in that the complexities of our Quantum information change denote our dilation and our dilation stress as it were on that the ether as it were that fluid's temporal domain as it were um causes just like I was saying stress to the flow and it causes that passive inertia that we perceive as gravity um so yeah explains all that sort of thing and and all the fundamentals and it basically says that yes gravity is if fundamentally an emergent entropic phenomena okay caused by the changes of time and and the complexities of of the determining what has actually changed be that by mass or motion okay so it's all about one's relative rate of time yeah now just to add on to that as well uh two concepts I want to bring up so I want to bring up a little bit about the idea of scalar physics and people say well how can scalar physics be a thing a scaler is just a potential that doesn't have a vector on it and it's important because um and I'm just going to make some assertions here that Maxwell's equations were incorrectly reduced by Oliver heavy side and when we did that we lost the scaler potential and what is the scaler potential well I will give an example which if you're watching the stream you can see otherwise you can imagine imagine a r or rubber band and you pull on both sides equally that rubber band or rope is not going to move left or right because you're pulling on both sides equally let's say one unit of force you double the amount of force on both sides it's still not going to move because it's both equal on either side you quadruple it or 10 times the amount of force on either side still it's not going to move either direction but is there nothing happening there Oliver heavy sides equation say there's there's no no net force therefore nothing's happening but you have your stress in the medium happening the stress mean if you were to pull too hard that rope that Medium is going to rip in half so what is the scaler potential of SpaceTime itself the stress in the medium of SpaceTime itself well if we include the idea of the SpaceTime ether the stress in the medium is gravity that's what gravity is an emergent phenomenon in property so we that would open the door to well now that we know what it is that we can manipulate it and if we go back to those equations and how do we manipulate it we zero out our magnetic or our electric potential and what we get left with is the stress in the medium like pulling on the rubber band on both sides and if we can figure out a way to transmit that scaler potential either potentially using a uh high frequency uh gravitational wave generator or some type of laser uh or or using a phase conjugate uh scalar uh transmitter that there might be entropy yeah or any form of directed entropy microwaves for example would do just as well slowing time and that's the idea that a lot of people have been talking about this idea of like radar and some of these Radars being use as a directed energy weapon where you can create an interference Zone at a diff at distance between two of these scalar beams and produce energy at a distance or even absorb energy at a distance a cold explosion as Thomas be would talk about an absorption of energy at a distance which is very similar to what we see in MH370 videos now last thing I want to bring up related to that science and we can maybe go back to some more MH370 stuff is that Michaelson Morley was the experiment in 1885 that people say well they ruled out the ether but that's not really true what they determined was that either there must be no ether or that The Ether must be flowing with the Earth itself and I I would counterargument and say well maybe that was 1885 we were riding around on horses perhaps the experiment has been you know maybe we need to go back to that experiment and figure out did we come to the right conclusions from that uh um and the reason why I would say that is because I think we're looking at the literal answers in the MH370 those videos are real videos and so what we can do is we can work backwards from looking at those videos and we say well we see the cold explosion we can see the negative energy that is being produced there that ripped through the Spy space time so let's look back at that experiment and figure out what did we do something wrong and I posted a video the other day where somebody redid the experiment and they set the they did the setup and they kind of spun it around and you could see that the interference patterns don't move when you spin it around but then what did they do is they turned it sideways when you turn it sideways and then spin it around so that it goes vertically instead of horizontally then you can see the interference patterns move so it begs the question of is there not some kind of time dilation effect that is causing it just like what royy Herbert said because the closer you are to the planet relative to up in the air you're going to have a time dilation effect it's going to be very small but it's a measurable amount very tiny measurable amount um and then the last thing I want to bring up which is the more esoteric stuff is that people ask and people have asked in the chat about Consciousness because I do think that I I don't really delve into the esoteric stuff as much but this idea then that like if there's this extra Dimension this ether like are we just bodies for the Transmissions of our Consciousness and even in the UFO committee a lot of people say that well Consciousness is the grand unifier that's the thing that brings everything together other species together existence of reason for living together um so I just think that's kind of a beautiful thought how all of this stuff tends to fit together with these concepts of The Ether like Terence Howard was talking about when I I I definitely want to dive more into to time debt dilation ma Mass reduction right because that I I I know that like this ties both of them together in order for us to see what we see the so so we have two videos where where where how how did we capture this from two different videos like where were the cameras where were they pointed like can you give us like the the information about how we ended up with two specific videos recording the orbs going around this plane and then the plane seemingly just disappear yeah and can I just real quick I just wanted to say hi to Gavin I I appreciate him coming we talked about a lot of this stuff he's very he's also um um in in physics and exis and some of the stuff we've been talking about he has taken the time to explain to me and my audience um you know and occasion so thanks for coming Gavin and welcome uh feel free to jump in whenever go ahead Ashton yeah and thanks Gavin for being here because I've listened to a lot of Gavin stuff as well because he I I kind of put him up there with like Roy in terms of understanding like a lot of the concepts of dilation he's got his existence Theory which kind of unifies these Concepts as well uh and I love that everybody's got various unification theories and I think that you know the answer is in there for sure and I don't know who's is is the best or most accurate but when I listen to these guys it definitely has or a ring of accuracy in terms of what I've learned personally um so they are the same essentially they are actually the same um Gavin's ideas um indicate that time is conserved and which is what I'm postulating so gin's ideas are Sigma yeah so we'll dig back into the signs in a sec let's let's flip over just for a second so I can go through some of the motivations again so we talked about the idea of it maybe be a rescue attempt so you could have operationalized the Drone the satellite would had just been luckily in the right location now the the motive for why you would do this is going to be the 20 freescale semiconductor scientists and Engineers on board this plane now I do want to uh debunk one of the conspiracy theories that's out there is claim that like there was some four patent holders and that the patents reverted to the Roth Childs um you know this is somewhat correct in the sense of the freescale semiconductor people on board This Plane are clearly Stand Out 20 people is way too many from one company these were important they were engineers uh they were tied to us Aerospace and defense they uh supposedly see money Penny on the channel here uh found that you know it's potentially they were working on like Advanced cloaking technology as well they were also connected to the United States uh Aerospace and defense through serving RF power needs radio frequency power needs which is potentially what we need in order to be able to pull off that technology we see in those videos um but the way that patent works is none of those people that that patent Roth trial thing none of those people are actually on the plane and that's not how patents work anyway patents don't they would be owned by the company not by those individuals like that but that doesn't mean that the overall idea is not wrong I don't know if that's been pushed out there from some sort of disinformation to get people to ignore that so that they can put a debunk and say that no that's been fake blah blah blah but we looked and those people are not on board the plane um but those people in general I think are the motivation and so if it's not a fire event or if it's not know it's a fire event but the people ask is the fire accidental or was it deliberate now the other narrative it's not a rescue attempt would say that this fire was set intentionally those batteries were put on the plane intentionally because why are those batteries even on the plane it's really dangerous and if that's the case then this is a United States Counter Intelligence operation that these people were going to China with that information with that technology and that China wanted that technology because it leads to the type of Technology we see in those videos which is a super weapon you know whoever has that technology control controls the whole planet nukes are nothing in the face of some type of teleportation Wormhole technology that's out there and I found out recently that um Chinese Nationals that work for American companies are the number one target of intellectual property theft in Espionage by China they steal $600 billion dollar worth of intellectual property every single year so you can imagine that United States was fed up with it and they're going n screw that and if that's the case then this is a planned counter operation potentially months in the making that they knew these people were all going to be on this flight from palur to Beijing that they planned this operation as a show of force where you say you away from China away from the South China Sea back to the West they might even have remote controlled it using awx that were in the area because the French father who lost his wife and children was told on the Netflix documentary by a Mr B an intelligent source that the Americans know exactly what happened to the plane and that there was two awaks in the area and if that's the case then your drone is already out there waiting to go right you've got it set to be out there fly out there the satellites you know the satellites going to be there at the exact right moment you've got your Rondevu point and at that point it's been Espionage the whole time that's really where I lean now after the letter to Ashton for presented this idea and I started to piece it together and I went yeah why did China hack the Malaysian uh Min uh Ministry of Transportation the next day well because they were trying to figure out what the heck happened to the plane they they did a a social engineering hack and they stole the crisis Medi minute notes of the plane and classified information about the plane which why is there classified information about the plane the next day well probably the communications that they stole and that they they the China times reported on so they knew this plane didn't crash they've got satellites too and they're smart so they're trying to figure out why but then there was more five days later the same time the South China or South Indian Ocean narrative gets formed China just leaks some satellite onto the internet and there's no explanation for them they get reported on as debris in the South China Sea which is weird because we weren't even searching in the South China Sea at that point and they look and there's nothing but if you look at those images you can Google them right now MH370 China satellite images it looks like three orbs around an object three different images and the letter to ashon forb says if you know what happened to the plane then you know what you're looking at in those images I'm the only person on the planet that reported those images as potentially being a spycraft like a message saying we know what you did we saw we can't prove it we don't have super high quality video but we have some satellite images and that could be China saying yeah we saw it or you know we give up like we you beat us whatever and then this is the idea that this was a message to our adversaries not just preventing these people from going to China but a message because the public is never going to know what happened right they're never going to know only people that are going to know what happened is Russia China maybe Iran North Korea whoever else right is going to hear and what can they say you might say well why don't they come out and say like well you know the United States Zapped the plane away because everyone's gonna laugh at them no one's going to believe them United States disinformation apparatus will come out they'll have every single major Media Station say Russia is spreading disinformation saying that we stole the plane or China is spreading disinformation and it says all the earmarks of Russian disinformation just like they did with the hunter Biden laptop right then they'll make the whole world convinced that you know that that's all nonsense that's why they don't come out and say anything um so that's what I think and this is what Joseph B farell up in in the nest also said like I don't know how he this guy figured this out without even the videos but he already figured out that the United States potentially used a super weapon on the plane that was a message to the adversaries he even talked about the 23 scale semiconductor employees what he didn't realize one thing semiconductors are what allow this technology to take off if you guys look at these stock prices of semiconductors they're through the [ __ ] roof I mean look at Nvidia gained like 15% today um these things are through the roof and it goes back to the idea of super conductivity what royy Herbert said your extended cloud of electrons what is super conductivity superconductivity is when electrons flow freely without any resistance and they begin to form Cooper pairs we don't even really understand Cooper pairs it's a Quantum effect now what normally electrons do is they bounce and they hit atoms and this is why it causes like wires to heat up because they're hitting everything they're hitting resistance that's what resistance is essentially super conductivity there's no increase in temperature they just flow freely when you get this superconductive state this is where you start to get potentially in my opinion based on researching uh some of these anti-grab rese researchers like ning Lee and polenov and even even Amy ESD is that's how you can start to get some of these macroscopic Quantum effects room temperature or uh high temperature super conductive uh effects going on so that's the story I think the best uh motivation for what happened with the plane got to be tied to those Engineers I think and in my opinion it's probably counter Espionage the United States government's the only ones who could pull this off like we and the reason is because we control all the world's media we're the ones that can convince the whole world that cell phones can ring for four days while they're underwater or uh you know turned off or whatever and that a suicidal pilot when there's literally no evidence for it whatsoever um we're the only ones who could do that well it's funny because I I was thinking earlier I had the thought of the Titanic submersible and how we knew like right it it was clear and they let everybody like consider the idea that those people were trapped somehow and air was running out um when when we knew that was not what happened right and they they would later admit that they knew it um so that that there's definitely the element what I I I love the censorship and the media element and the counter Espionage right so the the the the question is well first let's answer the question like where where did we get these videos from like what angles were they shot from who shot them like where did where did the videos that we've seen the two corroborating videos where did they come from where were they shot from yeah and so one is an mq1 C Great Eagle it's also possible it could be a different variant of the Drone they have the same body uh not all of them but most of them so like there's an mq9 a couple other mq1 variants as well but the mq1 C we found images that have cameras underneath the wings we actually don't think we're looking can you explain what that is to people that don't know what mq1 is yeah so these are uavs unmanned aerial Vehicles these are drones these are what we use to bomb people in the Middle East during the war in Iraq and Afghanistan and Syria uh and they can be controlled from you know the United States uh and so we found images online if you if you Google mq1 C uh you'll find images that they have cameras under the wings because there's these manual loadouts that they can like put Hellfire missiles on there or cameras or whatever they want we don't think we're looking at the wing in there we think we're looking at the housing of the camera which is like there's a like uh like the top of the camera itself is like a line that cuts off um and these are very very Advanced multi-spectral cameras that have night vision capabilities and that uh have thermal layer capabilities as well like we see that might be the default layers when we see this blue instead of like the black and white that we would normally see um and then the other one is something called we've identified it as being the cber system space-based infrared system now people don't even really understand what our satellite capabilities are they satellite capabilities are some of the most guarded technology on the entire planet and we are well past the days where we look down through a satellite down at the ground there are only five Optical satellites in operation today uh and we have dozens maybe even more than 100 uh most satellites are either going to be infrared or radar based and what this means is what's happening is they are relaying information to groundbased computers and then those groundbased computers are rendering like a 3D environment based on the data the same way where we send up uh like an object into space and we go monitor Pluto or whatever we're not using optical things to to monitor it they they take the data and then they rebuild like a false color version of what the you know Pluto looks like things like that very similar concept here in this case so these things these satellites are constantly scanning the whole world all the time in a constellation and the cber system if you guys look it up in locky Martin I mean my God P Global persistent INF Fred surveillance that's the very first words of the video um so they are sending this data they potentially are scanning the whole time it can be used to track objects as well it's mostly supposed to be used to track missiles but there's not a lot of missiles getting shot off all the time so you can imagine this has secondary uses like tracking planes boats anything that's moving on the planet um so that's what we've identified as this system and and the reason why we've done that is because in the bottom left of the satellite video there's coordinates that are accurate to six decimal places consistent with Google Earth and it turns out that the Google Earth was partially funded by Keystone which was a CIA partial operation and that the literally uses Google Earth in conjunction with quick trrain modeler integrated which is a 3D rendering software uh and I looked at that what that website up that company and they literally support all of the military the dod and the intelligence Community which is a pretty good indication they won't pick up the phone when I call to ask them for a comment but pretty good indication that what we're looking at here is a groundbased computer system that uses that modeling and use that satellite data in Google Earth but on addition to that we see something very important it says nr2 2 in the bottom left whoever leaked this video wanted to give us proof of what we were looking at n22 stands for National reconnaissance office launch many people don't even know what the nro is nro is the ones that send the satellites up in outer space that's the the agency um and nrl22 is the first launch of the cber system in 2006 which is pretty convenient considering we think we're looking at the cber system here as well and the constellation related to it so we've assumed that nrl22 USA 184 is the specific satellite designation is some type of command satellite that's relaying information because it's got this oblong moleno orbit or molia orbit I think it is actually probably saying that wrong um so we presume that it's relaying information from the geostationary satellites from the low earth orbit satellites and we found USA 2229 which is a naval ocean surveillance satellite that has signals intelligence capability which means signals intelligence is how all these assets it's like the network of all these assets talking to one another including the spy planes the Drone the satellites we found that was in The malaka Straits at 1840 UTC staring down right at our coordinates that we see perfect shot to potentially be sending the data that we need that could build this video um and and we can tell from the satellite video that it was recorded later on just based on how the person's tracking the plane and after the plane disappears how they move the screen to to the right we know this was recorded after the fact um and they've cropped the screen they've cropped the Drone out of the satellite video this is all very intentional like you know minimize the damage to the United States intelligence as opposed to the Drone which was of course a recording of what what really happened in real time and in that one we can tell the operator they're already um you know scanning the plane or filming the plane before the orb show up which indicates this isn't aliens or something like that they this was a operation from the get-go they Zoom zoom in to get the best intelligence on the heat signatures in the orbs CU this is literally going to be used for intelligence purposes to figure out like how did the operation go and then they zoom out right before the Wormhole right before the zap which indicates they knew what was coming and then after the plane Gets Zapped and the Drone video they don't even freak out like if I'm watching a a plane a seven Boeing Triple 7 get Warped into a wormhole that camera is going to be flying around going what the f just happened but instead of just like zooms out a little bit it's like okay operation let's go get lunch so this is the reason why it's not aliens in these videos the more look at it realize that this is something that was very planned out and had ahead of time um and then couple which video did you come across first I'm curious sorry I just wanted to know the sequence so you got one of the videos and how did you how did you like by chance I guess come across it when they leaked it and um just so that people can kind of get an understanding of how it it landed in your awareness yeah so reges side and non was the first upload that we've been able to find I saw the Drone video back in 2014 many other people have chimed in saying that they saw one or both of these videos back in 2014 so they definitely go back to 2014 they only exist on the way back machine on ronon's channel because his Channel's been wiped out he or she we don't know um but the when we saw them reemerge they both reemerged at the same time uh but there is uh uploaded metadata as well as in the description of the satellite video on Reger side it says received March 12th 2014 which is four days after the plane disappeared if reeside aan is not the hoaxer and they would have no reason to lie then that date is damning because four days after the plane disappeared we're still searching the South chin sea and they've got coordinates that says the nicobar islands now it says published May 19th 2014 which is like 70 days later and even this is significant because the raw Telemetry data uh from the those satellite pings was not released until May 27th 2014 in a 47-page report which is eight or nine days after this video was published so how the heck did they know to put this plane in the nicobar islands at this location there's a lot of like uh Maps out there before that you can find that show the plane flying directly over Indonesia instead of flying around Indonesia and that is indicates that like this person had to have essentially been psychic in order to know where to put this plane or just randomly guessed the right location of this plane out there so that Satur video was the first one to drop and then two weeks later it says received June 5th 2014 on the Drone video published June 12th 2014 so you can imagine now there's this story building like somebody leaked that first video they had to convince the people they leaked it to that the video was real because when you look at the satellite video no one even knew back in 2014 we could even do satellite video most people look at the satellite video and they go wait why am I looking up That's how little conscious perspective we have we're looking down in the videos we're not looking up but this goes to show most people have no clue at all what we'd be looking at and so they potentially would have to be convinced and then you know that video comes out and the person who leaked it or got it out there is thinking I'm solve the case of MH370 tell the world and then what happens well the media is controlled by the United States government so no one's going to talk about that video and then they leak the second one and they go well here's a second video so if it wasn't good enough that we have coordinates and a satellite video with nrl22 in it here's a second video from this from a completely different perspective from a drone from a horizontal perspective from the other side of the plane they're both in perfect synchronization this drone video's got you know you can see the black geodesic in front of the orbs and those lines are cold yes because we can see the thermal in there we can see this endothermic event which I didn't even realize to recently this is the first ever recorded endothermic event ever anywhere like there's nothing like this anywhere on the internet this is the first ever wormhole in the public view ever seen before just ever right but recorded I I just want to make sure that I understand here because from the angle that I've seen action I I'm so sorry good evening everyone Ashton very interesting I just want to make sure that we're talking about the same video first is it the the plane that was uh circled by three orbs is it that are you just joining us because like we we're going through I'm going to drop you down you can come back up in a little bit Yeah like uh okay yeah that's fine yes I'm I'm gonna open it up I know the hands have been we I know everybody's been patient um but right if we're asking if it's the three orbs Circle in a playe like uh you you must have not been paying attention to the first like hour and 15 minutes that we've been doing this thing um so I'll bring you back up in a minute but all right so so Ashton um I want to dive into the science I know money Penny pay to play we have Roy here we have a lot of brilliant people yeah real quick before we get to that though if that's okay I I want to just say that because people ask me what happened to the passengers where did the plane go right so that that was going to be my final question let's do that and then we'll get into the question so because everyone knows first of all I am not psychic so I can only prove what we can see into two videos what all the evidence shows so I don't know how many passengers lived but my speculation would be that probably not everybody was even alive to the part where we get to the Z due to the fact that we've got this fire going on and that Boeing aircrafts are apparently pieces of garbage and that there might be toxic fumes from the fire perating throughout the plane um but based on the right hand rule that that Vector that we have from the right hand rule the plane get sucked backwards we can tell the planes going to the east based on mapping the satellite coordinates that would make the plane going somewhere to the West this plane did not go to another dimension it didn't go to a Bizarro world or whatever it's going somewhere else on Earth and it's probably not going 10 years in the future it's not a man manifest situation like that although theoretically we can we canach those topics but that's not what's happening here and the reason is because there's a b 7 fire suppression device that washes up in MDES gets reported on as a bomb and completely ignored as well as 20 Islanders that see the plane in the early morning hours flying south to Diego Garcia military base and then there's the Philip wood exf data picture Philip wood supposedly posts on forchan a black picture saying I'm being held prisoner and people go look at the exf data and it says coordinates indicate Diego Garcia turns out Diego Garcia is a CIA Black Ops site that houses prisoners so I can't explain why Philip wood would have posted a picture on forchan and hit his phone in his butt or whatever it was uh but the circumstantial evidence would say this plane somehow ended up somewhere near the Maldives maybe there's two other videos out there showing where it showed up I I really don't know that'd be awesome if we saw those in the future uh but Garcia and Di Garcia is the really where every cons out there thought this plane ended up people were saying oh it got remote controlled there whatever it might be partially true but it got warped there too so um that's that's what happened and then with respect to what would happen to the passengers like I'd say that maybe some of them had survived if so they would have become either liabilities or words of the state meaning that you would have to silence them one way or another so uh either you would uh you know give them the special pancakes as as one of uh the alien addict guys would say which is know you just go to sleep and you don't wake up I don't want to think that our military would do that we would force our military personnel in the United States to do that so to me I think that then the other option would be you would make them get new identities and go into witness protection or something like that or that you quietly return them to China and China doesn't ever let them speak ever again either um and the weird part why this kind of makes sense is that the families never spoke up the families never reached out to me the families have been silenced but the reason why there's evidence against it is because many of the families moved on and got remarried and things like that where if your family members were still alive you're not going to go marry somebody else so once again guys I don't know that part will remain mysterious the only people that can tell us the true story is the United States government we know they did this we know these videos are real they're the ones who got to tell us why did you do this exactly is it like we think you know was it Espionage was it a rescue attempt we know it's related to these free scale semiconductor people and how many people live and what the hell did you do to them with them so so Ashton I want to thank you again for taking the time for all of these incredible panelists for joining us you guys repost the space um we are far from done with the discussion this opens so many can of worms as far as energy and Science and physics and like conspiracy and censorship it it literally touches on nearly every interesting aspect possible when you start diving into this we have some brilliant scientific Minds on the panel so repost the space get it in here one of my favorite people is in the house Nick money Penny you have your hand up so I will call on you well hello darling how are you I haven't seen you for ages Where Have You Been U I've been having fun yeah having fun you look good and Jennifer looks amazing not that she looks any better than you oh by God I'm G to get into a domestic here um yes there's so much to say on this I've been looking at the why um of MH370 because uh nobody can compete with the Brilliance of Mr fors when it comes to doing all the techy stuff um but I've been making some very interesting connections uh going through some very old findings I'm going to give you a connection in a minute you're going to have to come back to me because I'm it and I I'm going to give you more than one source of why Nidia the share that the equity that is shut up and rocketed through the financial world in the last few days is connected to The Disappearance of m837 and I have it I just can't find out on which device I stored it so I'm just going to go and get it come back come back and all will be revealed I I I can only imagine trying to go through the Nick money Penny files on like evidence that she has on everything like we we serious sock drawers I can't find my socks and yeah it's all getting very messy really well Nvidia semiconductor I I I I could see I'm I'm curious to see how you tie it together specifically but I think it makes sense um so all right well maiz do you got anything I'm I'm still processing like where we take the conversation from here like which one of these can of worms do we open up what do you think well yes I wanted to highlight the reason why I asked that question is because it shows how improbable it would be for someone to actually make a fake video that close to the event and for it to actually 10 years later begin to make sense and and once pieced together with you know it's just it's completely mind-blowing I found that um to be really relevant just so people understand like that's it's crazy and it's highly unlikely and by the way way Ashton even hearing you now go through it with such detail like pointing out that somebody you know how they were able to capture it with with the mouse what that told you and how they cut out and the zoom out right before it went into the Wormhole like these are very significant details guys like how did they know that that was going to happen at that point for them to be able to zoom out like it's just it's phenomenal so um I have one quick tiny question just before we move away from that do you or have you looked into and is it even possible or worthy even looking into um about those batteries potentially serving as some sort of function for what happened before the Wormhole I don't know if that makes sense but were they functionally um you know you potentially could it have been with the science part of it yeah good question uh it's inconclusive at this point I I think that the thing about uh lithium ion batteries they they have this huge energy density in them that's why we use them for everything and this is what causes thermal runaway is that you can put them out but they just come back up again repeatedly so you can't keep them out and that's why it's extremely dangerous that's why this plane was essentially doomed and this is why also it didn't necessarily this is why I think there's a very very low probability that's an Annihilation event we see in those videos because if you just need to annihilate the plane you just let it crash at that point you don't need to break out your super weapon you're only doing that as a show of force to teleport the plane somewhere else and hide it um but yeah so you could say that like you know there's this idea as well that like we see this endothermic event this absorption of energy the first ever endothermic event recorded in the public view on High super high quality military videos that's an absorption of energy You could argue as well that that sucked the energy out of the batteries and put the fire out because again thermal runaway is what causes the batteries to keep lightting up again I don't think my intuition if I have any superpowers by the way it's I would say that my intuition is very good and this is why a lot the scientists and Engineers wanted to talk to me is that even without being formally educated in the science like I was hitting the mark like hitting the bullseye over and over and over again on the guess doesn't mean I was always right about everything but generally pretty accurate and so my intuition would say that it's not required to pull this off but there is some percentage chance that the energy in those batteries help to produce the wormhole in general or that they orbs are locking into that into the batteries in order to you know triangulate the location of the of the plane but I think that really what they're doing is they're centered on the center of mass of the plane spinning around it and then they're just figuring out how big they have to induce this wormhole in order to make the Wormhole zap away um but one thing you brought up maze which is really big is the requirements to even understand these videos to be real I don't even think I could have believe these videos to be real until 2023 like nine years after the plane disappeared one of the biggest surprises to me that right before I went on my first in-person podcast with Tony of the confessionals great podcast by the way even to this day um and back then I didn't know what the motive was back then I I thought it was either a UFO event or an Espionage event and I had read a bunch of Wormhole papers before that and one of the things that I found was super surprising was that wormholes are humanly traversible which means that you there's no Event Horizon uh relative to like a black hole that's the main difference when you look at that it looks like a black hole but black hole you're going to get ripped to shreds there's too much gravity that's the Event Horizon you go past the Event Horizon you can't escape on a wormhole there's no Event Horizon there the G forces are not going to rip you to shreds and I read three different papers one of them was written by Juan Malina who actually is the proponent of E equals epr with Leonard susin which is the idea of a a traversible wormhole being equivalent to quantum entanglement a unification Theory and so I read all that went holy crap wormholes are you can go through a real Wormhole is really real you know so like the just to understand the videos to be real you have all these requirements and also the Trump satellite picture that was leaked in two or he posted on Twitter in 2019 shows really similar capabilities to what we see in the videos what uh Dustin was talking about with the Titan sub popping before that Titan sub popped we didn't know they could just pick up any sound anywhere in the ocean anytime with perfect pinpoint accuracy and they lied to all the media about it where everyone's like how much oxygen is left on these people they were dead for days and so it's like you know without all that we could have understood it and then with respect to the videos even if that's not enough for to convince that these videos must be real um then also the requirements I'm not going to go through all the requirements but just some of the requirements is like $150,000 real Bounty real Bounty nobody came forward to with the evidence they made these videos or anything uh some of the most difficult requirements are like the science that we talked about the engineering of the plane that's a real Boeing Triple 7 descending pulling off a real maneuver of the plane this is like to scale a plane down like that into fake videos is probably the hardest aspect which is why the Recreations are so poor is that once you see the turn of the plane in the fake videos that people try to recreate it looks completely wrong because that's like the hardest thing to fake out there as well as the idea of how do you know we're never going to find the plane 10 years later it's 10 years later people go oh they're gonna it went into the ocean somewhere we're gonna find it I'm like guys it's 2024 the plane disappeared in 2014 uh it's not like the search gave up like six years ago they searched for three years and didn't find one piece of the plane the debris that washed ashore there's this huge misconception about the debris it washed ashore in Africa when the debris first shut up in Africa and some random guy finds it not the search at all everybody wondered how the hell the debris wash up in Africa they're saying the plane crashed off the coast Australia somewhere you go look just go look at the currents ocean currents flow to the east down there like just logical Common Sense would say the debris should have all washed all across the Western Australian Shores and they have somebody do some crazy model and claim that oh this model shows that this one flapper on can show up in the reunion Islands that's the closest piece the rest of stuff there's like a piece of engine Colony wases up in South Africa 3,000 miles away like the debris is actually completely inconsistent with a crash in the South Indian Ocean but you know where it's not inconsistent with that it being thrown in the water at Diego Garcia military base you go look at the currence relative Diego Garcia military base and all those currents have the debris showing up right there in Africa where we found the debris so uh yeah guys the last thing I want to say real quick and then we'll just get some more questions that I know these videos are real and I'm planning on also proving that free energy is real I'm stepping up the game we're cranking it up 100 times over people thought that I was might be in danger before well we're going Full Throttle there is no going back we are all in uh I'm G to try to prove that the ether is real and I'm G to try to prove that free energy is real to the world because that's what this all leads to and when I prove that free energy is real to the world if I'm able to pull that off I don't want to hear any [ __ ] about the videos being fake the only way I could even figure out that free energy is possible if those videos are legitimate damn let's go beware do you know the United States has a law against inventing anything that they deem would be a threat to National Security this is fascinating I found out just today the invention SE seccy act I mean you you couldn't invent it this is just so barmy it's so ridiculous the invention sequency act Dustin are you aware of this littleit sorry he's got a mouthful of something isn't he he's having a burger um but it is basically saying the United States uh patent and trademark office has the right to stop you patenting or inventing to an extent that you would talk about it publicly explain how it works anything that they deem to be a threat to Nation security because I was watching a documentary which Michael curri kindy sent me um going all the way back to Tesla and it went through the history of the amount of people that have already proven free energy that have run cars have driven cars from the East to the west coast of the United States on water or even taking water to its constituent Parts using it as hydrogen and oxygen and using them as free to power a number of different types of engines um so Ashton you don't have to prove it and you don't have to do anything about it because it's already been done the problem is the last person that did it which I think was Michael ly or something uh he died a few days later in susp circumstances and unfortunately as we know with a few Boeing people going missing um it does feel that I think you should be wearing some cotton wool around you looking after yourself in all seriousness um it's not a good place to be in and I know you don't care you say you don't care but we care for you yeah so what I want to say respect to that is that yes I am not uh I don't deserve a Nobel Prize for figuring any of this stuff out because I didn't figure any of this stuff out in fact I would argue that the people most of the people that figured this stuff out and this science out are already dead sadly the people that deserve the real Nobel prizes that are out there and what I've said to people is that you know somebody's probably get a Nobel Prize for figuring out the ether but they were not the ones who probably will deserve it but that's how it'll end up playing out and if I were to get any prize the only prize I would even want is a Pitzer because I feel like I've done more journalism than most mainstream media and I'm on record saying that if I get that Pulitzer I'm going to rip that [ __ ] up on stream in front of everybody just to show how little I respect mainstream journalism um but to the point of the science yes free energy I think has already been proven many times over I mean even Stanley Meyer in his Hydro powered car hydrogen powered car um that's not really the point though because that's not the issue is the issue isn't discovering and and coming up with new science the issue is promoting it proving that it's real Beyond doubt getting the media to pay attention to it not getting killed when you try to put it out there those are the things that I'm afraid of so if I were to even get credit for proving the free energy is real I wouldn't even probably really deserve it I would just be the guy that was able to push past the propaganda because what we're in is an information War the information war is a matter of disinformation and misinformation that is misleading people into thinking that only Main stream acceptable science it can be true and nothing else can be possible and that free energy cannot be possible and anybody who tries to promote it is full of crap um and that's what we're up against here and that's also true for the plane everybody's thinking oh it has to be some suicidal pilot had to have crashed into the ocean right it's all an information battle which is why this the last thing I'll say you see these debunkers personally attacking me trying to take stuff out of context to attack me and they're what they're trying to do is they're trying to discredit me as a person and in other cases they're lying about debunks they're literally paying hundreds and thousands of dollars to promote fake debunks on X to get people to stop looking at these videos one of them literally admitted it um and so this again shows that this is literally information war and they know it is too and they know they're pushing disinformation intentionally so that's the battle we're up against here and my thing is I'm trying to figure out what is the strategy to be able to prove free energy is real to the world a with killed and disappeared and B in a way where I'm not going to get discredited because that's the first thing that they're going to do when I start to do that if the media does pick up on this they're going to try to promote me and paint me in the worst possible light but in all honesty what I've been trying to do is help you in that by connecting what you're doing sence did you already about Lieutenant Edward C Lyn did you already talk about him I haven't talked about Edward C Lynn yet uh is that Darren is that how I say your name Darren Tuttle yeah okay uh yeah so Edward see Lynn stuff so I'll just do the very brief recap of that so in October this was months a couple months in I'd already been doing podcast I was sitting there one day and I'm just going wait I I've got like I just explained all the stuff about the videos to you guys right in terms of all the you know it seemed like it was intentional I went I've got a psychological profile for the person who leaked these videos like I could tell this person's a US military operation uh Personnel they had to be pretty highly ranked they probably had to have some pretty serious access have access to both these videos they were a patriot they were not somebody who was trying to harm United States intelligence cuz if so they would have cropped the video they would have left out all this stuff they wouldn't even have probably shown it publicly if they were a spy if they were a spy they would have just given this to China and never put it on the internet you know uh so right away I okay I started looking around on the internet and I found it's kind of difficult to find information about people there's like Wikipedia lists of everybody who's been charged with Espionage and uh will for attentional classified data and I found all the big people that everybody knows Edward Snowden Chelsea Mannings all these people that were out there none of them even remotely close to who I was looking for and then I started doing it took me like two weeks I started doing like date range searches because I figure they must have been caught right away and you know by the time they get their charges it maybe be a year year and a half two years and then bingo I find Lieutenant Commander Edward Clin and The Moment I Saw the first article about him I went oh boy like just give me more and I just kept pulling articles up and every article I pulled up just corroborate that he is the guy I mean his he was on a spy plane he was Lieutenant Commander he was a patriot we had given him uh we had trusted him with nuclear weapons uh he had Above Top Secret access black budget uh black program access from the Navy uh he flew on these spy planes that have that literally fuse data and have real-time video capabilities his specific role was relaying that information upper command a bunch of art talk about signals intelligence and that was what we had pieced together how all these things are are connecting to one another they had redacted everything about his charges they wouldn't say anything the government was was afraid of going to court because they were afraid they would have to show the evidence uh to the public if they went to court with him uh the defense argued that the classified information was available on the internet and the government came back and said well just because it's available doesn't mean it's not classified and then that was interesting because what we found out recently too from some of these whistleblowers and like the that have been posting on social media is that some of this stuff is so secret that they don't even classify it because just trying to classify it reveals it to more eyeballs and more people to see it so you could even argue that maybe these weapons weren't even classified and then they classified them after the fact because of what happened because they got leaked out there um and this is what's so wild about it then he also gets caught with flight manifest that includes search and rescue code names and the timings are extremely daming he gets part of this vpu2 wizard Squadron super secret spy plane Squadron his deployment is February of 2014 right before MH370 the lawyer his lawyers on record saying that the investigation into him began April 2nd 2014 and it seems like the government added all this [ __ ] prostitution charge and stuff there was no evidence that he was a spy they ended up having to just admit that so they just they tried to offc everything around it but you can imagine from the government's perspective these videos get out there and you go whoever leaked these has to be a spy but then you look into them like we've looked at them you go really a spy I speculate and this is just speculation that he show showed these videos or gave these videos to one of his like Taiwanese counterparts because he was also he was one he was it's been argued that he was a spy for us against China because he was Taiwanese descent and a naturalized naturalized American and uh so he had these Taiwanese contacts still so I would argue that he potentially showed one of them maybe gave them the files and then they leaked it on the internet and then that's how it got back to him so um to me he's the guy I've given all this information to the AO the all domain anomaly resolution office underneath the Pentagon and the dod the the uh person that I spoke to who I don't say their name because they told me not to uh said that they would be able to look into the videos they would be able to look into Edward celan's case I don't think they expected that this would end up being real and I think I redpilled the hell out of them uh because the last response I got back was on April 11th which is a month and a half ago and they said that the initial investigation to MH370 revealed the United States search efforts aftere went missing from radar and that they wanted to know more about the Genesis of the videos and that they wanted to call and talk to me again and then they've ghosted me ever since then I've sent them four emails in the last six weeks I've called the phone number that the person called me at several times the phone number is consistent with the Department of defense's area code I I checked that as well today um so it's it's like I gave them potentially absolute proof and uh they don't want to respond right now so uh Guys these videos are real and like we've got the government like in the the corner right now like what are they going to say what was the end result for Lieutenant Commander Lynn so I did reach out to him and called him one time and somebody picked up a phone and hung up and that was really suspicious because like don't when somebody calls the wrong number you usually pick up and like hey wrong number but like pick up hang up right away and I had already been saying his name on the Internet so he might have been expecting it he he got a plea deal so instead of going to prison for life he took a plea deal they gave him 9 years after a plea deal that is a lot of time and he got three years shaved off because he worked with the NCIS which is the Navy criminal investigation service whatever and the FBI uh possibly to say like how he got how the videos got out there or whatever um and I foyer the NCIS and they rejected my Foya in total for interest of National Defense and foreign policy um so we I also called his lawyers up as well I ended up speaking to two different clerks for about combined out about three hours and then no lawyers ever called me back and I I got a couple weird emails one of them was like about the new whistleblower law that was being pushed at uip whistleblower law about like what it meant for whistleblowers who uh had been convicted of Court Marshals and stuff or Court Marshal and things like that I just thought that was bizarre because it was a seminar that had already happened not like one that was upcoming or anything and I've only ever gotten two emails from them in the whole time that that's all gone down so uh uh I think we're getting to the point as well where like someone needs to find Edward Lynn and maybe he'll end up lying to I don't know because you can imagine the psychological state of somebody who was convinced they did something wrong put in prison for six years and now is probably has like a a defense contractor job because they don't want him to talk and all this stuff and if he talks about the videos he could go back to prison because he took a plea deal so it's it's a sketchy situation that's why I went through AO that's why I've called the FBI three different times and reported this because I want to go through people I don't trust FBI just for the record but you have to go through the official channels not just because you want to make sure you're doing it by the book but also because if I were to get disappeared I want to make sure there's records of me like talking to all these people and doing all this stuff so there you go well so so so this this leads to my other question maybe one of the reasons that I'm optimistic about your personal welfare Ashton is the reemergence the timing of the reemergence of the videos seems to also align with some other disclosure stuff you brought up David gers earlier and right we we know what that looked like it almost feels like we are we this stuff would reemerge for us to find it and start PE like for people like you to start piecing it together because I have a feeling that my my my and this pure speculation but my personal guess is that they understand that the advancements in AI are going to lead us to finding this stuff anyway and therefore like they would rather get out ahead of it and kind of give us the crumbs to start putting the pieces of the puzzle together um so that it it feels more organic um and there's also like that lead in time as these investigations come together but it's not just the reverse engineering the testimony of David gers on Dimensions um e even the skinwalker R Ranch like TV series right which kind of ends like right it's monitoring all these unusual frequencies and events on the Skinwalker Ranch and I believe I haven't watched the last season yet but I I people have told me that it ends with like a wormhole theory about like what's actually going on there it feels to me like we are being prepped for Revelation on this and some of yeah the the the these more complex Technologies and so what one and and to me that's why I'm not overly concerned like about your personal well-being I want you like again I I would I we like you a lot I it would be tragic if anything happened to you but I I encourage you to continue to drive forward on all of this stuff because I I I believe the exposure of this technology and this information leads to a Renaissance it leads to a a dramatic shift and takes power away from people who have wielded it and used it to abuse control uh people and puts it back in the hands of all of us and so so no nothing to me could be like more powerful than that and so I I I I I will say I just there's crumbs that just like we see them left all over the place and I think we're meant to put this piece like this puzzle together so yeah you know one question I have is anybody hey Darren can you hear money Penny stand up Darren please just I'm in the UK I'm five hours ahead I'm very tired can hear me now just please let me do my thing my I don't think he can hear you I'm gonna drop Darren I'm gonna drop you down bring you right back up like uh I'll bring you right back up but I don't think you can hear money P go ahead money P okay I'm really sorry but I I just want to say this because I will piss off that I will get out of the way very quickly I I know that I've done loads of stuff on semiconductors but I found out today something quite interesting which I just wanted to share I know that people will be aware Nvidia and the share price and the rocketing and all the excitement about all the advanced Ai and the semiconductors and you have three or four maybe five will'll say top semiconductor people in that space um but one of them is AMD which anybody who anybody should know about so Nvidia and AMD I found out today both of them are run by family members so Jason Huang of Nidia CEO and Lisa Sue AMD CEO they are related they are in the same Chinese family that it is actually a Taiwanese family from a small part of Taiwan they don't publicly ever talk about it it's only once ever come up in one article in print I trace their genealogy and there is a link between the family of those two they're actually second cousins um let me just read it yeah uh remarkable familiar relationship um hang's mother is the youngest sister of Sue's maternal grandfather making them first cousins and Sue confirmed this in a 2020 webinar by mistake but I believe and it's difficult with Chinese names that one of them or both of them have relatives or a relative that was one of the 20 semiconductor employees of freescale which was taken over and became nxp and then taken over became part of qualcom which as you will see in the nest were the companies that were responsible in 2014 for producing the first stealth technology that enabled the invisibility of military avionics and at that time that was crucial to winning wars it was the first military use of cloaking technology and that to me is one hell of a big reason to potentially take out a plane thank you I will now piss off yeah thanks we never want you to go anywhere Nick um Darren did you follow up yeah so so one thing is so I've been following this you know for a few months now and I remember um that uh kim.com had put out an incentive a long time ago right and had said hey like if anybody is able to recreate these videos I'll give you $100,000 um like that payout has never happened right but uh do you know like what kim.com involvement and all of this has been and you know maybe like what his intentions are um yeah I can speak on that um so and I had kim.com had come out and said he would pay $100,000 for somebody to show the videos without the orbs in them meaning that somebody had added the orbs to the videos that was specific exact uh what he had stated uh we had private conversation after that and I said no I want it to be that the hoaxer has to come forward with the source Works a proof that they had created these because you don't create these videos one go and just have the end product right you would have your your leadup work and as you're adding the various elements to them um and what I want to say here is that kim.com has no say whatsoever in regarding the authenticity of these videos he's not an investigator he never did any investigative research um he is just an influencer who tried to tie himself to these videos I believe his motiv motivations to be impure he is a career criminal as well as a career fraudster he's been convicted of fraud in the past um he has turned to the state multiple times as well uh he is currently facing extradition to the United States for extortion and uh I believe it is is uh whatever something about committing conspiracy and his money he told me directly that his money is being the mega upload money from the website that was the you know file share place is controlled by un States government and he gets paid that money back to him now who's implicated in these videos the United States government is so kim.com never believed in UFOs or aliens or anything like that and for some reason wanted to connect himself to me into this case and then to later on to try to convince people that the videos were fake and that people should move on so I do not trust kim.com nobody out there should trust kim.com and once again no money was ever paid out to anybody not even one penny was paid out to anybody kim.com offered somebody who claims to have found or that claims to have took some pictures that have some clouds that they claim are in the videos we were able to conclusively rule that out it's actually literally impossible for there to be a 2d picture of clouds in the videos because we have two videos from different perspectives we have 3D accurate lighting we have uh two videos where you can see the clouds in both of them as well and the clouds not only do they move they also evolve uh so this is Natural Evolution of the clouds this is not somebody that put some kind of filter on the clouds or something like that this conclusively rules out 2D clouds plus there was an analysis that was just posted in the last few days by Bobby O that he went and did a full announ independent of me I didn't tell him to do any of this stuff went talk to the website there's no evidence these cloud pictures existed on the website before the videos and they have weird manual updates on them that shouldn't exist and the website owner says that there was a script that was run but why is there a manual update if this it was a script but the most daming thing is that there's a set of like four or five photos and two of the photos the metadata says they were taking two seconds apart and they're completely different angles if you're a photographer you're not taking pictures two seconds apart from completely different angles that's just literally impossible so I'm not going to necessarily speculate exactly what had happened here but the United States has a lot to lose if these videos are real uh creating a couple pictures of some clouds using the original Source videos or cers data is basically trivial when it comes to relative to uh using bending SpaceTime and warping an airplane from one location to the next so hopefully that clears stuff up just to recap kim.com is not to be trusted his say whatever he says about the videos has absolutely no credibility at all he never investigated anything around these videos uh he didn't even promote my work he had like never retweeted anything that I posted either so shouldn't be trusted oh and nobody nobody no payout ever occurred not even for anything in fact the picture taker last thing I'll say is that I was in a three-way chat with the picture Taker and um kim.com he told me to record it so I did uh the picture taker in that recording said Kim offered him $10,000 just for having taken the pictures and he said that he would do that but it was contingent upon signing an affidavit saying that the pictures were legitimate he said he would take that and then weirdly the next day he was telling people that he had never agreed to that and like I I let him dig his own grave because I don't think he knew that it was recorded and then I posted the recording of him saying that he would agree and then he immediately started backtracking and saying oh okay now I'll take the money and I'll try to give it to the families money never got paid nothing ever went to anybody that was out there take that how you will you know it's crazy because like even when people say like anything about you know you potentially faking it like what would be in it for you who would choose to put themselves under such scrutiny and spend so many hours genuinely trying to understand what is in these videos to also put yourself as a Target because of what you're revealing like why would anybody do that like this isn't you know and and to me it's like you're just such a genuine person that you know I mean this is after like you know being in spaces with you hearing how you know humble and down to earth you are like it's just crazy that um you know I don't know whatever but I I I can understand that there might be um those that have a reason to want to discredit you but what would that reason be it wouldn't be a truth Seeker that understands that we have a government that probably has technology that they have I mean doesn't it blow your mind that if they do know about ether why is our periodic table still the same why why hasn't any of this been revealed in in science as taught in education across the country or across the world like what you know I think these are the questions that you know we need to ask like so if if this is something that you know I mean I think that anything that is in the UFO Community especially when it comes to um technology anything that's not being revealed is because of that it's because we're seeing derivatives of that technology let's just say you know via like whatever the products that they're selling but also because they don't the free energy um or just the idea of being able to uh tap into an energy that does not have the overhead that is not also um causing any pollution or damage to the planet that doesn't have to be rationed would completely change the world it would change the dynamic of the world would change so much and I think that this is something that is going to be um suppressed and so I think people need to come together with all the research that you've done all of the expertise that we have kind of within our networks here the Six Degrees of Separation I really do think that we could especially with all the the stuff that's coming out with the science and things that that are coming to the surface right around the same time Ashton I mean that's crazy you could tell the universe is supporting you whole wholeheartedly like it is literally supporting you it's like everything's falling in line so I think that's amazing so I just have a question and guys I don't know if you if if you're sitting in here and you have not checked out these videos they're literally mind-blowing please go to The Nest or I think they're up there in the nest right and look at them watch how you know there's I mean he's he's got it all laid out it's explained very well but it's also just the videos itself are mindblowing um and you know with all the research that you've done so far what do you see the next steps being and you know how can you get support from the community yeah great questions Maz and and great comments I appreciate it a lot of people in the Stream are saying that that's a that's a great girl there uh definitely ma is really awesome I think she's always very empathetic as well which is I appreciate about my conversations with her and yeah I I fell into this this wasn't something that I plan to do you know I could never imagine a million years there would be videos like this couldn't even imagine the science could be real and suppressed and be out there in the open and I think the most important thing is to be genuine and that's why I've tried to make everything I do publicly available nothing behind a pay wall I do every podcast appearance that I can you know do even though now it's getting very difficult um and then try to live stream as much as well because it shows that you know I'm not a perfect person I'm a flawed person like every human that's out there uh but that I am genuine in my intents and goals here with respect to this um I think that a lot of the people that are trying to debunk it as well what you find is they're not trying to solve the case either which I think is a big tell you know the first question people ask me is why are you doing this and it's usually because the families and to help change the world and if you were to ask people who were trying to make the videos go away why are you doing this they they don't want to answer right because they don't have any Noble reasons for doing it um the uh the reason why these videos would be suppressed and why free energy would be suppressed and The Ether would be suppressed is is probably multiple you know power money control uh and then for more practical reasons like these these videos literally break people's minds they like literally break people's minds uh that's not even a joke I'm not exaggerating um people literally told me they would harm themselves if this ended up being real and that's not a joke either there's some percentage of people that would commit harm to themselves if they found this would to be real because it proves that everything that they've been told their entire world view is a lie and mean you take look at the people that I would consider to be CNN brains that think that whatever told on TV is true and the authority doesn't lie to them and they're not capable of a cover up uh for example the number one debunker Mick West even in his skeptical Inquirer about this said that if this were to be real then you would have to also give credit to the idea of like elections being stolen which to you can tell this is his own projection of his own insecurities right is this idea that if they can commit this kind of conspiracy and and have the and the media can lie then he would also have to question some of his own preconceived beliefs about other conspiracies being possible um and then the other side of it and is the the scary side that this is weapons of mass destruction people go well nukes can already do that no guys no nukes can destroy a city okay this is a weapon that can destroy the whole planet okay that's a major different we're talking a million times more powerful than a nuke this is the next level and people already freak out about nukes imagine freaking out that one terrorist in the Middle East or wherever anywhere Kim Jong Il or un or whatever could blow up the whole planet whenever they want with access to this technology people are going to freak out and then you have the whole National Defense angle as well which is that this is an arms race I don't know where this technolog is coming from if it goes back to the Philadelphia Experiment if it goes back to the Nazis if it goes from flying saucers that we figured out or that we dug up from past civilizations the more I dig into this the less I know about where it comes from I don't personally care where it comes from but I know that what's going on is it's an arms race between Russia China the United States I think that we're probably way ahead but that you know we don't want other people to catch up and you're trying to maintain this military Supremacy over the planet related to it and so that's the reason why you know inertial Mass reduction uh as well as everything going on those videos uh would be getting the highest levels of secrecy that are possible that are out there it's like the Manhattan Project all over again um couple aspects I do think that there is a slow drip acclamation process going on to get people used to these ideas like you talked about the Skinwalker Ranch the Wormhole stuff I think a lot of movies as well it drips into I mean anything that Christopher Nolan is is making um like tenant Inception uh Interstellar all these movies like a lot of these scientific concepts are like getting people used to these ideas and I don't even know about the time aspects but I've been told that like tenant like this idea of time being deterministic where you could like maybe travel in time but you if you met your your future self you always met your future self and you can't change anything like pretty bizarre stuff but you know maybe that's true um Congress has no idea uh I'm not going to go into details about how I know this but Congress has no idea he's even the UAP caucus Tim Brett anapolina Luna uh Matt Gates and Jared MTZ MTZ they're not being shown anything like the way it's being presented in the media is like they're being shown alien bodies or whatever they're not getting [ __ ] um and they have no idea about this technology and how advanced it is the people that know are the intelligence the Senate intelligence committee those are the people like Marco Rubio um Chuck Schumer whoever else is on that you guys can Google it and see who was in that those are the people that have the security clearances to learn about this and they know it's National Defense they know they can't say a word about it um so all these like these bills and these uh Congressional hearings they're doing nothing is going to come from it they're all too focused on alien and alien bodies and that's what the government wants them focused on because when they're talking about that they're not answering and asking questions technology and that's the stuff that's really classified that's the stuff they really don't want people to know about um let me see I think I another another Christopher Nolan movie uh The Prestige science reaches the level of magic basically is very in line with a lot of this stuff I might watch that movie later tonight that's like one of my favorite mov movies ever and one of my that's one of my favorite movies too you know you know Ashton one thing um that I watched recently that I think is part of the drip campaign is by Jesse Michaels or um he's at Alchemy American I just put it up in the nest here he talks about a Thomas Townson Brown uh who found a link between electromagnetic ISM and gravity um it had a device that he was showing to uh you know top brass in the military Edward Teller who uh was the inventor of the hydrogen bomb Bill leer from Learjet um and it's it's really well done um by Jesse Michaels it's you know high production quality I think it's really worth your time because I think you know it tou I've seen it it's great yeah yeah you guys should watch that the Thomas Thon Brown documentary Jesse Michaels did I actually talk to Jesse Michaels every once in a while I hope he doesn't mind I mention this but um and he's concerned that if this stuff is real then again like the National Security implications and the idea that like I also used to question like if this is real I don't want to be responsible for the end of the world because honestly this logical conclusion of free energy and all these weapons is like we're going to destroy ourselves with this that's another reason why the government might want to hide it maybe all governments want to hide it because two Waring factions have this how long does the planet last uh now I believe in the good inh human and I believe that we determine our own destiny so that's why I've pushed forward with this is that we deserve the truth and the worst people on the planet the government already has it so it's hard for me to imagine that it can get much worse way um but yeah and so that's why I think he's uncomfortable in terms of talking through some of this but the Thomas Thomson brown stuff 100% starts that's like the history of some of this he worked on the Philadelphia Experiment uh Tesla did not want to work on the Philadelphia Experiment um and that might have been the first time where we accidentally learned uh how to manipulate SpaceTime as money Penny said there's a there's this connection between uh Advanced stealth and uh cloaking and and manipulating SpaceTime where if you bend all the electromagnetic signals to a very high degree that that you don't you can't that like radar can't see it that now if you just bent yourself right out of SpaceTime um that that could be the missing link I don't know that for a fact but it could be um but then Maize did ask oh so the other thing I want to say that the UFO Community First of all two things China and Russia know about this technology because if I was able to figure this out MH 37x together and figure this stuff out we're just I'm just a random dude who's in healthcare it right like if we can figure this out and find the science out Russia and China figured this out years ago it might be part of the reason to Dustin's point where I haven't been off maybe there is like I actually I've been told that there are people that like want me to push this out there because there's so much red tape in the government like the people that have ndas can't talk talk about it that's why the UFO Community is so [ __ ] uh you know there's good people in the UFO Community but a lot of these people that you see in the UFO huge percentage are just full of crap they're controlled whatever out there and they're they're on a agenda there might as well be an Excel spreadsheet that says this is what we're going to release on this day you know because a lot of these people ndas and they know and all they would have to do is just come out and do an Edward C Lin and just say what they know to the public and the whole thing would blow up right that's what I'm doing I'm just but this is catastrophic disclosure right we're just blowing that away we're ripping the rubber ripping the bandid off telling people exactly what's out there and you know a lot the people out there they know this they're focusing everything on Aliens and alien bodies and crash retrievals and nobody's talking about the weaponry and the science and the Vana syndrome stuff you know only a few people are talking about those those links so I don't trust anybody in the UFO Community whatsoever certainly none of these Pudo celebrities or journalists that are out there that most of them are either ignorant or they're being used as useful idiots for this slow drip disclosure process um and but that yes there are Waring factions in the government some of them that want it hidden some of them that don't want it hidden and it comes to the same moral quandaries that we're talking about here like if we were to destroy ourselves is it worth it or not worth it and these are tough questions and that's why I want to do spaces like this and talk to you guys about it so that we can really grapple with the magnitude of the significance of this to figure out like is this really what we want and how do we prevent ourselves from destroying our eles so last thing on Ma's question what's the next step what do we do first of all we just keep ramping the pressure up you know the more Impressions I'm getting on social media the more awkward it is that the media won't touch this mainstream media won't touch this even though I've done over 80 podcasts I was on bar bar stool Sports podcast with Billy football right and then media won't touch it not one media station government won't issue a statement on it AO won't come back on it so the next thing I'm going to do is I'm gonna try to prove that free energy is real I'm not going to go into details at the moment about how I'm going to do that but when the time comes I'll bring them up I don't know the best way to do it because I do know that the moment I start making strong claims like that the disinformation attacks are going to increase tenfold so if you have ideas on that I made a post about it the other day you can weigh in some people said you know make a device and and and and film it and record it or whatever um you know what I'll say is I've read I'm reading all those comments even though I haven't replied to all them and going to be trying to think about what the best way to prove it is so M to you like the the but it's a perfect segue to the question I was like uh right interested in asking because the salvator Paya stuff is one of those things that like he's kind of a mystery and yet you were able to get him and I know a lot of people who were like taken back that you were able to have the discussion that you had there about the technology and the way that he just fullblown loan opened up to you and so that that that was going to be my next question like how did that happen and like can you can you share with people like what you took out of that conversation because I I think it leads us to some of the underlying science in a way that' be really helpful yeah and I what I'll say is I 100% believe that Salvador Pas has seen possibly even very orbs that we are looking at the MH370 videos I think that he only put those patents out because he's seen it firsthand either he's seen the stuff that we reversed engineered or that he's maybe even helped produce some of that stuff the very first thing he did was like a 9 Minute disclaimer about not helping our our enemies out and the idea of like how dangerous this technology is which coincides with exactly what I've kind of determined about it and what I want to push out there um and like I said before when I first listened to the first interview I did with him I was asking most of the right questions but I didn't know any of the scientists that he was talking about and stuff like that but after you learn about electrical engineering you learn about the Maxwell thing you learn about how pointing vectors work you learn about um how gravity manipulation Works in general you listen to him he was giving away all of what you need to understand to understand how it's been suppressed exactly how it's been suppressed and what it takes to produce um gravity and then if you watch Thomas beard you realize thas Bearden was talking about in the 80s so my opinion is that Salvador pasas heard me saw me on Twitter saw me in social media these guys all talk to each other behind the scenes by the way these engineers maybe even politicians Etc they have their group chats just like we have our group chats and stuff like that so they they know I've been told they know about me and what I'm doing and that he was probably somebody that wanted to get it out there and saw me as a good Vector for helping to do that because I don't have an NDA I can just speak freely about everything and then I'm already in using my intuition to figure out that how it's all working and he had faith in me one thing that I think about that creeps me out every single freaking day and I'm just being fully vulnerable here to you guys is that South P has told me I was going to be a great person that I was going to figure this out and the thing I that just really boggles the mind is like there's a Time aspect to this technology a time travel aspect and I keep wondering like has this guy seen the future like the way he spoke about in such certainty where like I'm even doubting myself and he's sitting there knowing that I'm going to be a great person I'm like does he know how this all plays out is there some kind of weird retro causality angle here where he just knows like it's very creepy to think about um so yeah there two interviews I've done with him uh if you watch those guys like they're probably some of the most important interviews on the planet especially if you understand how the science works and you'll understand what he's saying there um and what I'm led to believe he hasn't this correctly uh is that I think he's been uh gagged for the most part like he did like what five or six interviews two of them with me and then just disappeared again and um I'm not going to say exactly what he said to me but just the impression I get from what he's told me is that like he's been told not to talk about this anymore um because he was given away you know too much information and and that it can leak to our enemies to to teach them too much so um kind of crazy stuff is is it possible so like we when when we first started to discuss David gers right and we we we had that very early lot right before everybody else and and the blowback with Josh uh Josh Reed like that whole Saga last year was pretty nuts um is it possible that he's part of like the the whistle blowers that gers was representing like that the the technology seems to like kind of match up um it yeah have you considered that as a possibility what I'll say is this is that and again I'm answering all the questions I can as freely as I can is that I think a lot of these guys in the background talk to one another and they know the whistleblowers like that and they potentially met some of those whistleblowers as well I don't know that for a fact but I have a pretty good authority that's the case um and so yeah like it's a much smaller circle of people than the outside public realizes and that's part of the reason why it's so easy to be kept supressed uh is that you know it's it's not hundreds and thousands of people that know about this it's like dozens of people and the engineers the ones you want to go to the ones that are the you know Navy Engineers like Salvador Pas the contractor Engineers uh like my buddy Dave Rossi you know these are the people that are in those small clicks uh people like Hal POF Eric Davis uh and some of them I'm not actually you know I'm getting names I think Eric Davis is willing to lie in front of people because he's one of the people I think that knows that it's real but gets off on the idea that he knows and nobody else knows um and I think that some of them just get so much money and get paid so well that they just don't care and other ones and if I had gu I'd say how Poff is one of the ones on the side that wants it out there because he did that interview with Jesse Michaels and Eric Weinstein you guys should listen to that if you haven't Jesse Michaels's content is is topnotch and how P off is guy that's sitting there talking to Eric wiste Eric Weinstein is a guy that doesn't realize that this has all been suppressed and how Poff is just like it's he's like a guy that's just annoyed that he has to explain to somebody else the reality of How It's playing out and he's just straight up saying that the they're hiding the technology and their fence contractors and he knows there's magical technology going on and Eric wi's like no can't be possible like if it was physicist would rise up like man he's just so naive you know and then you can just tell how P off is just kind of like okay God I got to tell them tell they set it up like with a foyers to Shield them from everything this is why nothing's going to happen in Congress because it's not in the government like even if we pass a law that says like like brette put forward that says like oh well the government has to tell everything they know about UFOs they don't know anything about UFOs because the everything theyve released the CIA documents have already been released out there all the Roswell stuff the stuff is all in the defense contractors that's where the secrets are at and they're all shielded from foyos you're never going to get them to be able to testify and what have you um and that's the difficulty of this that's why it's got to happen like if disclosure happens it's going to happen by like somebody like me or you guys where we just find these videos and then we just push it and we figure out how the science works and we just tell the world like that's how it's really going to work yeah I was asking people oh sorry Dustin no no it's all you well I was just because when we talk about disclosure you know often times there's like this expectation that's never talked about we always are in reactive mode like ah he's full of [ __ ] or oh you know but like what do we really expect from disclosure right and and if they were to disclose what would be their motive um and kind of just based on you know based on what we know I think that it is going to be there there's a point at which they're going to have to um you know come clean our access to information in today's age is like ignorance is a choice right and So eventually they're gonna they they they're gonna have to contend with with truth Seekers and very smart ones at that right especially with people that can know even Network Within These these virtual spaces and so I think that just kind of better um defining what we expect like I I do see disclosure coming from people like you and from you know I don't ever see it really coming from the government I see them pretty much trying to maybe assimilate stories and narratives to be able to explain certain things but never are they going to be like are you ready for the truth and for some reason it's like is that what people expect I mean we just need to like I don't think we consciously ever thought through that like what what would disclosure really look like like we're I guess you know just waiting to be surprised by government I hell if Biden comes out and says that aliens exist like I that's when I'm gonna stop beli exist like I would have beli the opposite what he said so it's like that's like again guys we're never gonna get disclosure from the government right I'll tell you guys that right never gonna happen them no I agree with you I I um also just when it came to um oh what was it I was just about to comment on well I do know one of the things I wanted to comment on was the orbs because so this is something that um you know it's kind of been categorized kind of in the the UFO type of um I guess category um and also one of the most interesting thing about orbs is that they were used or they were you know I guess um observed in making crop circles and so the reason why I think this is relevant and very important is because whenever they were able to do testing on crop cir CES what they were able to see between a real crop circle and one that was um a fake one that was done with the planks um was that just kind of like a microwave if you were to put broccoli in there it would cook it from the inside out right and so what was happening with these crop circles is they would go grit the they did scientific um testing they took it to the lab and it was like the inside the reason why there was so much steam coming from the crop circles is because it was kind of like a microwave whatever that orb was it was this it was this electromagnetic energy yes it was microwaves maze by directed entropy okay so that's how exactly if you hold a zero inertia State and any for of directed entropy makes you essentially fall you're basically Contracting Universe in front of you thank you Ray yes thank you um and so that's I think maybe something to think about because you know like what I don't know I just I just feel like there's there's something there to explore oh yeah and what I was going to tell is for those of you guys that are not familiar with the Philadelphia Experiment this was like back in the 40s I want to say 1949 where they were trying to I guess test some sort of cloaking technology and they accidentally moved this huge ship that was like what was it um it was some huge naval ship like 200 miles away and back like within seconds and um so you know that does show to Ashton's point that let's just say there was some sort of if they even if they accidentally did it um you know there was some sort of warm it was a bending of of SpaceTime in order for that ship to be go there and come back and you know I guess maybe the best way I can explain it in terms of the condition of the ship and the people when it got back was that they were all like melted together which is crazy and I I will say that there's you know know a lot of um you know this is there's a lot of this that we we hear stories about how people were melted into the ship and and I don't know exactly how much of that was evidence-based or whatnot um but it is it is quite interesting but it seems like they took everything into like one frequency and then you know brought it back out um of sorts right and so I don't know I just I think that you know just in case y'all didn't know that that's what what the Philadelphia Experiment was and that's why it was relevant to this yes they changed the phase of State essentially so that they changed it to a different state of existence just like we Chang the state of existence for Water by boiling it or by freezing it we change the properties and it changes the state these things we call conservational geometric symmetries and basically what it is is that role of that conservation as such applies independently of scale which gives that us um that macro to micro Behavior Uh leap as it were and it also provides all that temporal domain to time and it's the manipulation of that temporal domain of time that is that teleportation as such maze so that's why things can zip away to a distance because speed time and distance time is the variable of the equation h h h so I I I keep think about the batteries as we talk about this right and like how how unusual that is and I I get maybe the simplest answer is it was designed to cause like the the right re ason I think you proposed that like the fire was right it would make sense that they they would have this issue to redirect to where they were planning right it's basically based upon the principles and and Ashton actually touched upon it and perhaps gabin could come in and then and pull in on to this one because it's about the densities of energies um with nuclei of of atoms for example electrons can't sit there because it doesn't have enough energy to do so so there's a a balance of energies that work here that one to create that state as it were one must have those balances right as it were and so the the the thing I was thinking about right because I the the battery seem to almost and Comm just again shut me up if I'm just completely off base with this but it almost feels like you had to have that Center energy source right in in order and then the orb seem to move in almost like uh sacred geometry type pattern right the the the the circles and triangles the the pattern that you see with it seem to like form just basic circles and triangles and I I think you described it as like a 2d a 2d Motion in a 3D environment um can you just elaborate on that a little more I don't know if I did a good job articulate I want to think there I want to address what Maize said about I think crop circles are really interesting um and I think what Roy was saying is that like the orbs could theoretically use the same engine they use to move around to actually create the crop circles uh which I think is pretty cool I you know and I don't know who's making them or what have you but I don't believe two guys with boards were M around making crop circles all over the world um I think they were probably just full of crap and they were trying to you know um take credit for something they didn't do I think that the idea of the shape of the orbs is very important I think when you look at complexity if if a very complex human intelligence had Advanced anti-gravity technology then you're going to see more advanced shapes as well where you know we've seen pyramids triangles we might even see something like the board a cube which would be a very complex shapes I think the simplest shapes would be spheres and orbs like we see which is why I would argue if I had to guess that a lot of the orbs we're seeing are that are being called drones are like China's versions our versions Russia's versions of this type of technology and that it potentially can get much more advanced people look at this and they think well this might be thousand years more advanced than we are these orbs that we SE in these videos is probably just like one of the first iterations of this kind of floaty technology and that it's going to get way crazier than that which is that's what I want people to think about as well is that this is even though this seems very Advanced it's also just the beginning with respect to the Philadelphia Experiment thing um you don't want to touch the edge of the Wormhole that's one thing that I've read about the papers so I think that's probably why it could have gone poorly is that those fields that they're creating the very powerful electromagnetic fields if they are not tuned the right way to be around the ship and they're like going through parts of the ship that's where're going to start to see some weird effects like imagine the time dilation happening in only part of your body uh you don't want that to happen um and then with respect to what types of engines you guys can these things can create I want to um explain a few different aspects you have this idea of em Drive which is what Charles uh Bueller was promoting recently which is idea that you can push off The Ether the the the negative entropy state of reality which is like Star Trek impulse Drive um so that becomes POS possible but that's way different than warp drive which is pulling space around you which is what we see the orbs doing and that's different than straight up SpaceTime manipulation which is making a wormhole so there's three different concepts all based on the same ideas I think all three are proven in MH370 videos and then also then just this idea of straight up free energy um so anyway those were just some thoughts and then you can go back into the stuff about the batteries or what have you well no listen I I'd be happy to dive into the free energy part like uh I'm I I'm open to like just free ranging on the conversation I guess the crop circles got me thinking about like the pattern the orbs make yeah let me address that I forgot so um Thomas Bearden in one of the videos we I I think I did five different video uh summary or video reviews of his content from the 80s and one of them is Phase conjugation and I'm now not 100% sure but I think there's a couple different aspect could be just a pure Wormhole or could be a phase conjugation event where like the plane is being a phase State change to a wave function which is like the double slit experiment where now your location goes from a deterministic location to a probabilistic one and that would require Mass reduction like once the mass becomes zero now you can move the speed of light now you can be here now you can be there Quantum effects become possible and what CH what um Thomas Bearden explained is a 0 system is what you would need to pull this off and a zero point system can be two lines angled at directly at one another 180 degrees out of phase but it can also be a triangle that is 120 degrees out of phase an equilateral triangle and that's exactly what we see in the videos so what I argue is that potentially what we're seeing there is those are the pump waves where they're creating some type of scalar beam a scalar potential a stress in the medium the gravity manipulation and they are shooting that at the center of mass of the plane and what that's caus is that all three beams cancel each other out at the center of mass creating a gravitational effect centered on the plane which is why they're mapping it because they're trying to figure out how big does that effect have to be and then when they're enclosing on the plane that's what's causing the exponential growth in the energy levels to achieve what they need to create the the zap the Wormhole effect and then so they would be called the pump waves uh and then because they're the ones that are creating the events and then you have this idea of the fourth orb which is shooting another Beam at the interference zone of those three and then what's happening is you're getting a phase conjugate reflection back at the location of the fourth orb that's what causes the slingshot effect from band where the rubber band snaps and now once that that zap that happens essentially it's creating a gravity wave the plane is riding that wave to its end location so pretty cool concept huh oh and Thomas Bearden was explaining that in 1985 so pretty cool huh dud you you my my my brain the wheels are turning incredibly quick I know a lot of people want to get on stage so I do want to like cycle on and off so if you guys have questions please throw up your hands chaotic I'll give it to you hey guys so I put a whole bunch of stuff up in the nest for us to look at a lot of this kind of supports what Ashton's been talking about and maybe might help Give A visual representation for the folks that uh you know really need pictures and I'm one of those types of people I like to see a visual representation and then um I also added we talking about shapes as far as uh so on page 13 and 14 of the the Stargate and Wormhole packet Ashton it describes in pretty great detail and also includes the ma the math behind why um the an orb is the most efficient shape because to to generate and harness that negative energy you need basically a set of free rotating uh mirrors a mirror system so more than likely the orbs that kind of fly in that Tesla pattern around the ship while they're calibrating um are part of the the Mir the rotating mirror system so I highlighted that in case that's helpful but I think um oh no I'm sorry go ahead no that was I was going to say just going oh oh so so I think part of the reason why the military is downplaying why uh they don't they don't really want everybody looking at this it has to do with the technology I think there's a good chance they probably wanted to paperclip those semiconductor scientists if that's what if it was part of an Espionage situation there's a good chance that we wanted them to work for us so it wouldn't shock me I I don't think that they would just like kill a bunch of semiconductor scientists for no reason and just like how just to show that we could because there's a lot less elaborate ways to make that happen I think that we probably wanted them for our team maybe maybe we were trying to capture them and it didn't go so hot uh to say the least but I mean the entire the fact that Diego Garcia exists at all was based on a lie they were never supposed to have been able to build Diego Garcia the you know as far as the M military base the island is had was home the whole the whole system of violence there was home to a native population that was forcibly forcibly uh displaced and rehome to other uh British owned territories because the whole deal was it was a joint situation between the US and the UK military and we were only allowed to do this if the islands were uninhabited that was the whole point that was the only reason we were allowed to build this military base on Diego Garcia is because we lied and told the whole [ __ ] War that nobody was living in this island chain and we we lied and we we would not have been allowed to build that military base if we had told the truth and um didn't try to cover up the fact that we completely destroyed an entire indigenous population in the 1970s y'all in the 1970s this happened this isn't like you know old history but colonialism this is this is colonialism that expanded well into the 1970s and we're still trying to cover it up and all this information was available in 2014 they were aware of it then yeah you made some good points I mean I think the one too is that maybe this was an operation just didn't go well right like maybe it was supposed to go better and then there was some you know some people died they weren't supposed to die or something I don't really know you know again I'm not psychic I can't say but um and and that's why I think there's definitely some interpretation that you know we can we can figure out so obviously we don't know everything but we know most of the broad Strokes at this point and yes what they did I think they were like called the chch quins or something like chch quins or something like that the native people of Diego like all kicked out we killed like all their animals too just really horrific stuff it was a humanitarian Cris yeah they were home into the whole the whole island chain they were um originally and they're you know they share a lot of similarities with the the people of Louisiana because they're they're you know originally French colonized to a certain extent to the point where they do share that Cajun Heritage uh which is kind of interesting because you wouldn't expect to see a little pocket of Louisiana on some tropical island halfway around the world but I mean they ripped families apart people left left the island on vacation not aware of what was about to happen and they' suddenly just like hey we went left to go visit some family in another part of the world and they just didn't allow us to come home and they just forced everybody off uh on purpose as you know in at the time it was easier to cover stuff up like that because the media wasn't like what it is now but yeah and um the thing too is it must have been a very important location in order to you know to rationalize doing that and displacing all those people um and so you know there might be something more going on there because it's on this like mountain range that's like you know in the water there uh and I and I think we've speculated found some contracts there might be some underground stuff there's a lot of dredging contracts going on there so definitely curious to know more about that base I think uh Mark Duan famous French author who said that the you know plane ended up there from United States took it was told to stop looking into it as the rumor as well so lot lot of sketchy stuff going on there uh quick I am gonna have to drop off in about 15 minutes so if we want to do some more quick few rapid fire questions before we close out I just gota I gotta say something to the haters you know what I'm saying because I'm checking the comments people like oh my God you have no proof well no [ __ ] Sherlock if there was conclusive proof this would not be an unsolved mystery you know what I'm saying I mean he's he's BR in his research like I just don't get it some people you know and it's like you know it's fellow truth Seekers you know to be very emotional and just opinionated about how there's no meat in the Buns it's like really I mean I don't know I just feel like it's it's I just had to address that yeah I mean and this is the amount of evidence we have here is about the most possible for a public investigation I mean I am not afraid of going to court because I can convince R 12 random people that don't even believe in teleportation that we teleported the plane that's how much evidence we have at this point as well as the verifiable evidence that like the videos could be confirmed that they're real videos that are of those assets that we've speculated that we have the leaker that could have leaked it like this is more we have two videos 19 Witnesses we got more evidence than most people convicted of murder on Alex murd was convicted of murder with no videos you know so it's like there's just a lot of people that are just coping out there right because this information like I said breaks their brains you know challenges their conception of of the world in general um but what I'll say on that front is I'm extremely that's why it's so important people are people's are con I I think that our our education system might do it um I guess but also media and everything we have such limiting beliefs right they literally are in deep in our psyche where we just think oh my God that's not possible and what's crazy to me is that we're going to continue to be mind blown by what is possible right and we just have to be open to it I think that when when we get stuff like this like that Ashton brought this should be heart heart opening mind opening you know like intriguing wanting you to go in and research and and see like what else is there that we don't know I just don't get you know the the um reactions especially from people who are just like so adamant that this can't be real I think that whoever is sitting there and and having these conniptions you know you should probably re-evaluate why you're doing that what is it about this that scares you you know I think that um I don't know I just I feel like it's self-limiting beliefs but go ahead Ash and and not to get too much into the politics but I mean there's people that wear masks outside and in their car still and the whole Co P ended years ago and you know and that was because one time they were told by the government that they should wear a mask so for the rest of their lives some people are going to wear it right so imagine that the mindset of those people that are so indoctrinated into whatever the authority tells them must be true um you know that's just that's just the reality of it this stuff's going to it's going to hurt people to find out the truth and there's also people now at this point that have been so polarized that they can't ever admit that they're wrong you know there's a lot of people out there that can never admit they're wrong one thing I want to say too on this front I'm probably gonna make a post about maybe tomorrow because I'm getting tired but people should not be afraid to fail and they should not be afraid to be wrong I think this is something that we struggle with is that it if I do have one ability it's that I'm not afraid to put my ideas out there and be wrong about something uh I'm I'm not a liar but I can be wrong about stuff and this is how you learn is that you go out there you say I'm G don't be afraid to take the first step I said I'm GNA figure out how electrical engineering works it's not some impossible feat I'm probably going to get a lot of stuff wrong I'm probably going to misinterpret it I'm probably GNA get and and every time I fail you learn more right and then you come back that's how we get better at stuff everybody just wants to be told what to think told what's right or wrong no everybody's afraid to make the first step everybody's afraid what other people are going to think about their beliefs and then if they're wrong they're you know going to get ridiculed or whatever that's what's wrong with our society today well I I I also it's everything that's right about this community particular which is once you start doing that you get access to people like Roy and people like Gavin right and the the the the experts you need just seem to come out of the woodwork to be able to connect the dots for you and what to to to me like the most powerful thing about all of this stuff and it's why always say the secret sauce is just leaning into conspiracy right which is if you just lean into thinking outside the constructs that like everything is and you're willing to challenge everything you would be amazed at at the people who are also outside there in like one area or another who are thrilled to find somebody else to bounce ideas off of because what by by definition once you go outside the con constructs that like we're the media wants to enforce the education wants to enforce the Academia wants to enforce on whatever it is Graham Hancock's done amazing work okay like I haven't read his DMT research paper yet but I'm looking forward to that ancient apocalypse all of this stuff once you go outside you you you are going to be in no man's land and need people to like bounce ideas stuff you're not going to have like a stable this is absolutely the only way it could be you're going to have a bunch of hypothesises and theories that like you want to bounce off other people to like come to some some kind of better resolution and to me that's everything that we have in this community like more than anything like the the secret sauce is in finding free thinkers who are just willing to go outside and be like you know what maybe I was wrong or maybe what I learned is wrong about anything absolutely anything and when that happens you get spaces like this where you just have a lineup of people from all kinds of different backgrounds with all kinds of different expertise who are willing to come in and be like all right I've thought about it this way and balce ideas and it's it's a cool thing to be a part of it's also been just Asing just I I know you gota go I want to give everybody a chance to ask questions who got their hands up but I I I want to say before I kick it around to everybody just how cool it's been to watch your journey right Ju Just how amazing it's been to watch you just track down like ferociously what what what whatever it took like what whether it was learning about the different drone types or the different satellite Technologies or freaking electrical engineering or the Sciences around like Quantum mechan like the whole thing man and just watching you get like clear and clear and like get closer and closer it's been an amazing just to watch it so thank you like it it's been really really awesome thanks man I want to appreciate the podcasters I want to get some other people here as well I just want to say real quick you know science is a study of observable reality and the whole point of science is questioning our preconceived notions there's there's gaps in our science scientific understanding right now so we should be open to new stuff and not just saying like oh well this is what the science says that stuff can't be possible you know as continuous Improvement so anyway thank you very much okay two quick things and then I'm going to go on mute and we'll go to all the other hands so first of all I'm going to repost everything that I see I'm going to even go and backtrack and repost it because I think it's through the the hour networking and reposting that it will land on you know in the awareness of whoever might be able to take it to the next level so I encourage everyone if you know to support in that way just a simple retweet that's it and then eventually it's going to travel and it'll it'll go where it needs to go secondly all right conspiracy you brought it up Dustin I have to do this real quick 30 seconds okay the helicopter all right the president of Iran so the pilots the there was two other um helicopters involved okay that they were uh fall they were all kind of heading the same direction um the this I this is crazy mindboggling the timing of this so the the statements that the pilots made about what happened is that the first one that he that he was actually in they saw there it wasn't even the conditions weren't that bad there was one Cloud that was above the hill and they went in in the cloud and they basically radioed to other pilots and said you know what Ascend you know XY amount of feet because you know this this um basically I don't know I guess it hard to see the visibility was low in the cloud so when they go over what they did is they looked down and looked back and the the helicopter completely disappeared they could not find the helicopter they were like it and they did not see the helicopter again until they had found it crashed which was like 15 hours later but um you know there's just I think that there's a lot I think you know investigating this type of stuff um will just keep you know I don't know it'll keep our eyes open and peel um for nefarious uh stuff like that so I just thought that was a interesting coinky dink Alpa jump in love oh huge shout out to Ashton and it's great to see you continuing this fight because I know it's gone hard a few times one thing I wanted to bring up you know especially for the haters on on what you're working on is how much evidence is there to support what the mainstream is is pushing and it's pretty much nothing uh outside speculation so so to challenge Ashton's Theory when he brings more receipts and more evidence than what the mainstream explanation is that is baffles my mind but I also want to jump into a little conspiracy with this too but first first before you go Ash in if you don't mind touching on the passengers that were on there because I I I don't remember that they were Chinese scientists or what but I remember something interesting around the scientists but I also want to remind everybody that those three Americans on this flight uh one adult man um who was an IBM executive and his two kids a four-year-old and a two-year-old so the fact that there's three Americans missing if you're an American that should um at least concern you to what's the truth that really happened here and here's the little conspiracy sauce that I'll throw on here uh Jet Lee do you guys remember him being alive or dying after he did his last film because a lot of people say I thought Jet Lee was dead but if you go look at jet Le right now jet Le is alive and what's interesting is jet Le's uh martial arts double was on flight MH370 so I just find that weird as as hell and I just wanted to throw some of that sauce on but if you you don't mind Ashton kind of talking about those scientists sorry I didn't realize that jetley stunt dou was the person that was on there that's interesting we might have to look at that m7x find out about jet Ley guys um yeah his his name is his name is Jon jukun okay uh guys you heard it here Jun um so yeah first thing I want to say too is that the number one thing you should say to debunkers if you ever get into an argument about MH370 is just say what do you think happened because that pretty much immediately shuts down the conversation because they don't have they don't want to expose themselves to the sa level of scrutiny that they're trying to put other people's beliefs to this is common amongst people that have very authoritarian beliefs is that they just AB they absorb and they assume that whatever the authority tells them is true the moment you question what they believe in their evidence then they immediately back away and say well I don't know I don't know I don't want to put my my theory out there and again goes with this idea that people shouldn't be afraid to fail shouldn't be afraid to put their information and ideas out there uh the 20 frees scale semiconductor scientists in my opinion just like the batteries these are the two things that stick out the most when you look at this flight uh the eight of them are Chinese Nationals 12 are Malaysian Nationals they work for the American companies free scale semiconductors tied to an NSA National Security Agency report in 2005 that H talks about the commercial emergence of super conductive microchips by free scale they're also connected to serving our us Aerospace and defense like these guys it's just red flag Central right 20 people way too many people on one plane from the same company they're all sitting next to each other as well which means that they must have booked their tickets together so this is like why how did they not get flagged for this you know how' the company not Flagg them company even said these were important people and Engineers some of them even had their whole families with them like well you're going on a weekl long business trip to Beijing you bring your whole family with you uh I've traveled a lot for work never brought anyone with me um so yeah really suspicious stuff um good questions ultimately at the end of the day like the United States government has to tell us exactly what the motivations were for why they took this plane and at a minimum like even if people don't want to believe the videos are real because it breaks their brains we we prove the United States government knows what happened to this plane like there's the silian capabilties is proved they they know 100% so everybody who's trying to get to the truth which is not everybody out there everyone who's trying to get to the truth should be wanting the government to issue a statement about MH370 what do we know about the plane what happened to it where did it really go we know they know thanks and thanks Alpa man you're awesome dude I I still tell people that the podcast interview I did with you was one of the best out there and it really helped open the door what I want to tell people too is that because I'm being kind of open and vulnerable is that I thought when I was initially exposing this that people that were of the like conservative political persuasion would be the most resistant to this information because I had my own bias what people thought and it turned out to be the exact opposite it was that the people that are the ones that are more conservative the ones that are less trusting in the government the ones that are more religious are the ones that actually have less time believing in the science and everything that we did here and it's the people that are like more on the left not not consistent like always but ones that are more authoritarian in their beliefs of the current regime are the ones that think there's no way that this could possibly be real and you see the same political um Dogma and divide in the UFO Community too which I never would have expected so thank you very much Alpha and thank you everybody who's helped to you know Elevate this case all let's fire a couple more people have been waiting we'll go to you uh uh uniso and then we'll go to Antarctica and then ashy I know you gota run thank you man for making the time no thanks for hosting thanks uh Dustin and Ashton and Ma for hosting this I've got a a cple notes I'm going to try to go through it in a rapid succession hopefully you don't forget anything so I think the physics is at the the ground Foundation the most important thing I'm in full agreement with Ashen here um modern physic um physics has been completely derailed over a hundred years ago so we were talking about the Michaelson Morley experiment back and um little few people know that they actually did a follow-up experiment on top of a mountain and they found that when you have um when you're free from the surface of the Earth and you're at high altitude you can get Aether drag you can actually um get a positive result so they went and did that but by that time the science Community had moved on and they mostly just disregarded all of the um the positive result and then you know there's we don't have to throw Einstein out with the bath water we know that certain um aspects of special relativity is true but there's definitely an ather and we've known it for a long time in the um far past when we were first figuring out electromagnetism uh Faraday he did an experiment where he took a disc and it was a solid disc of copper and he rotated it next to a magnet when you do this you get a current but there's a interesting phenomenon it's called Faraday Paradox where um you can have the magnet attached to the disc and rotating with it or you can have the disc um station the disc stationary and rotate the magnet and you still get this um this current flow and so in the 1980s there was a Laboratory um scientist working on it his name was uh I think uh Bruce dealma he came up with a design for a free energy generator it's called the the Palma in machine and this was uh verified um by the Indian um Institute of nuclear technology or Nuclear Physics they had uh basically done a repr reproduction India in the 1980s and the the scientists working on that was name Pam Mahesh or P mahasa tari he wrote a whole research paper on the nature of electron and the positron how they're related it's all based on this but what's interesting is that scientist U Bruce to he died um no one knows what happened he's very young but then his brother named Brian deama went on and made a movie called Mission to Mars this came out in 2000 is a very kind of strange film it had to do with like the history of Mars and um the human race but I think the the critics probably panned it but it was actually a very important movie so um that goes into where's human Origins uh what's the relationship between Earth and Mars and so there's some interesting um information that's come out the last couple years that Mars may have actually been uh it may have actually had a biosphere once and that was completely blown just SMI Rines there's evidence that there's a mass and nuclear explosion on Mars um they're starting to admit that now just type Mars nuclear explosion on Google and if you have the AI turn it will tell you about this um so that's a research from a guy named John E Brandenburg he worked with NASA but there's a bigger question when it comes to energy and trans dimensional Technologies um Mars is sitting right next to an asteroid belt so where did that asteroid belt come from um there's a lot of different theories about it and the formation of the solar system but it's possible that it could have been a larger planet and Mars was a moon orbiting that planet and that planet was blown apart the only way you can do that is this type of transdimensional technology I mean you take the most powerful nuclear device we've ever made the SAR bomba and that's nothing compared to what it take to build up a plan you need like 100 million or 100 billion of them we had the largest event in in Earth history since we had the development of Life on this planet that's the chick salop crater that's something like 100 million times the the amount of energy released from the S bomba and that didn't that only made a tiny dent barely even made it to the mantle so what we're talking about is is the technology of a type one or type two civilization that's being unlocked and so one other thing I was going to leave you with so in 19 uh probably the early 2010s like 2007 to20 there was a company in in England named steorn s o r n now they basically came out and posted a um they posted a ad in The Economist magazine which said that they had free energy and they wanted to invite all of the best physicist and scientists were come in inspected they were like a um electrical engineering company and so they did this and um their whole thing was based on principles of magnetic saturation in a uh an iron core it's called The hesis Loop they found that if you do a particular motor design in such a way you can have um it's a different completely different design but you can get more energy per rotation of um of the motor the rotor than you can from losses to heat and so that was completely covered up but they they had it that was in the early 2010s um and there's a uh very interesting person named Adam tromley he works on uh the end machine but in uh 2010 I think uh Foster gamble who was one of the airs the to the proct gamble family he came out with a documentary called Thrive one what on Earth will it take and he basically laid out the entire history of the free energy movement up to modern day and he tied in crop circles and a lot of other things and so I recommend everyone to watch that movie and then last thing I'll leave you with this is so you know sometimes say uh does does uh fiction imitate or does um art imitate reality or does reality imitate art well well the X Files is is completely replete with stuff like this so there was a episode called Dreamland came out where um malder went to Area 51 he got in touch with an agent and then a UFO pass overhead and he essentially body swapped and things were reset back to normal but one of the things he left with was a little coin where he had like two quarters that merged into each other made like a cross and so the only physical evidence he had that actually happened was that that goes back to the Philadelphia Experiment you can learn more about that by um a guy named John Hutchinson he had a lab um all his equipment was taken away and they make him look like a crackpot now but he actually cracked so we have video evidence that he was able to levitate things and get anomalous effects so yeah thanks for the insights I've heard the John Hutchinson stuff uh Dr Brandon Berg actually sent me an email we're we're talking on the side and I knew a little bit about his Mars stuff but I had never heard the theory of Mars being a moon which I think is a really cool thought um there's a lot of things wrong with uh like for example the largest moon of Mars it's like a giant asteroid it captured it just looks it has something called orbital resonance where the Mars's orbit is far more elliptical than what you would expect and there's been papers um I think it's been scrubbed off the internet but they trace it back 3.3 million years ago something catastrophic happened that knocked Mars's orbit off before that it had a more C more circular orbit and they trace it back with orbital resonance Theory between the different plan that might have been the creation of the there's a lot of weird stuff on Mars too in terms of seasonal methane which is usually a product of biosphere there's a monolith on Mars and on Phobos cool stuff uh can you send me the followup experiment that was done on on theous oh yeah it's um Mount Wilson Observatory it's on the official Wikipedia page too um they just they act like it doesn't exist but oh one other thing about that there's a uh another phenomenon called the sagnac effect sag NAC effect this is used in laser gyroscopes very high super precise gyroscopes there's no you know there's no relativity theorists who can explain how this works this is for me direct proof of the ather awesome it uses light thanks un social yeah so I think I got time for one more question then I've got to drop guys because it's been a long stream but I appreciate it oh thank you thank uh thanks for having me up Dustin M Ashton oh wow I'm grateful to be up and um so you the last question as well don't worry guys I'm not going to give anyone any monologues or anything like that um but I do want to mention about one test of free energy that we're all doing um is electri culture electri culture to me is one of the easiest experiments to to get um the El electrico particles from The Ether direct through to make our own food and the the types of food that is being created is incredible like pest free almost like the size is incredible the speed of growth is incredible so I wanted to put that out there and oh little brain fog um oh damn oh excuse me um oh it's going no I'm I I've I've I've gone Can it can I that happens to me too where it begins to fade away you can remember you can do it that was it I remembered sorry it's been a long that I'm in the UK so I'm like money Penny we're like hours ahead um yeah Ashton what I'd like to do is possibly every Friday on X going through Saturday like for long periods of time we do flat Earth Fridays some amazing amazing minds are in those groups I'd love for you to to to invite you to come in to share some of your knowledge because we talk about everything and there I've never known groups like this to exist that are so open um free thinking and such level heads and we're literally disseminating all theories that have been absolutely excuse me the English bollocks you know that they they've kept us oppressed in our understanding we you know obviously this goes into massive um tributaries but would you mind coming in he doesn't have to be this week we just done um a 100th episodes so it's been going for two years you'd be W more than welcome to come in to share and I think you feel quite comfortable in that in that room thank you ala yeah I appreciate it oh go ahead is there another question no no no ashon I I know you gota go I was goingon to wrap it for you um happy to put you in touch with sacred and our Flat Earth homies that's wild space are brilliant dudes the thing is like yeah so for right now the reason I there was also uh I forget what the guy's name is one of the prominent dudes uh who's very knowledge I saw him do a um debate with lur Lodge the other day yeah yeah I and IED back to him that said in the future I I will happily do that in general I'm not not somebody who believes in Flat Earth um but right now I'm not going to do that because uh as you can see this is an information War and the people who are trying to discredit me are taking everything in anything they can out of context in order to apply labels to me to get people to ignore the videos so uh tying myself to Flat Earth is not something I can uh do at the moment even if it's a situation where I'm literally against it so I I do appreciate it I'm sure you guys are very open-minded people and in the future when we do get some resolution to this case I will be happy to dig down into that and every other kind of rabbit hole that exists down there and and it'll be a great time talking with you guys so I just I want to make that clear for everybody out there and I respect everybody's views and opinions I'm not the kind of person that goes in other people's replies and tells them what they believe is fake and stuff like that because I just well that's not productive and I don't think that's how science should operate in general um so that that's just the statement I wanted to make so thank you very much Dustin take it away oh also just thank you guys very much everybody sorry I missed it guys love you all what's up Ian I'm glad you you made it though um and Ash you know that's actually very smart because I will tell you uh I get that's that's the number one thing that's used against me all the time like oh my God she's a conspiracy theorist she believes in Flat Earth and the thing is I actually don't believe in Flat Earth but I I love listening to them debate it because it's fascinating how they can poke holes in both sides and I just find it you know it's something that I find interesting um but yeah they would definitely use that against you yeah real oh go ahead oh no go ahead yeah I was just gonna say just cuz Ian jumped in I just want to shout out to Ian Carol uh I have like the highest regard for this guy um amazing journalist amazing investigator uh his presentation is awesome I love his sarcasm as well I think if you haven't watched our interview you should it just it's one of the best ones I've ever done uh really open-minded guy the reason why I clipped him with investigate Earth not just because got a name shot out but his view on like you know why we should take some of this stuff serious and the idea that if the government's hiding this technology we should just assume that they are and if we're wrong so what but if we assume that they don't have the technology and they really do then that's a huge risk for us because they could be using against us and this kind of goes as well like when I've talked to Jake Chanley in the past where he's like of course we should release this because the worst people in the world already have it it can't get any worse by having the people have we decentralize this technology we take power away from the centralized Authority um and if you're a Libertarian kind of like I am then you're all in on that idea so thanks Ian appreciate it man if you want to say something as well or comments I'll hang out for a few more minutes just because you jumped up appreciate you brother oh I just want to say I appreciate you all and I'm so glad that you're fighting this fight man sorry that I was late I just got back to the hotel no problem man I can't wait to see what you do in the future uh you know if you ever need anything from me uh you've got an ally like the difference between people like kim.com and Ian Caroll is like Ian doesn't ask anything in return he's just an openmind guy just trying to seek the answers out there and um you know I get completely different vibes when I talk to someone like him he's just somebody that's T you know uh on the supportive side same way honestly with like the Hodge twins for example like those guys are really cool I didn't realize how awesome they were but you know occasionally they retweet one of my things or they ask Elon Musk about it you know and they're not trying to like tie themselves in a situation where then they're going to like discredit anything you can just tell they're coming at it from an open-minded View and and that's what I think like is going to happen with this it's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger to the point where like eventually the Dam's going to break so thank you everybody who's been part of this thank you everybody who's been in part of m370x uh this thing will eventually make an incredible movie I can't wait to watch it myself because like I sit here and read some of my own stuff and I'm like holy [ __ ] how is this real this is a crazy story uh so anyway guys thank you well so so actually I am listen I'm going to wrap it it's it's crazy the day I had because I spent like six hours going through the Michael shellenberger Twitter files drop where right like the intelligence community embedded and the way they hide [ __ ] and shield [ __ ] attorney client privilege like e e even for me somebody who who who did and went through all freaking two tzen of the Twitter files I found it to be maybe one of the most relevant like I I I I was almost mad because it's it's almost like they buried the lead with some of the stuff that we got today in a major way and so I I spent no joke six hours like diving through that and then through three hours from this but I I don't know what it is but these conversations literally restore my batteries like I I I for like having this discussion diving into all these different elements and that there's so much more I wanted to to to get to and would love to talk to you further about The Whistleblower letter we didn't really get into in the kind of detail I'd like to at some point but Ashton has talked about all of this stuff and you could go through like just go through his timeline and you can find literally all of it and SE the truth more than anything else like just be willing to ask the questions and don't trust anything the government says and take it if face value like the the the craziest thing to me is that one thing we can almost certainly rule out is whatever the official story is that's like the the one thing we could probably pretty conclusively rule out as being what actually happened is what whatever we're we're supposed to believe and whatever the media and the government are like hellbent on making sure and enforcing that we believe and so with that said what a freaking phenomenal space can't wait to see anything you need from us as student as far as the free energy experiments or to push it out we are always here for you and uh excited to be involved and watch as this thing continues to develop out we got your Batman and and like I said earlier like I I actually I don't know what it is but I'm not worried about your personal safety I I actually believe we were meant to find this stuff the crumbs have been laid out it's up to us to put the pro like the the pieces together and unlock this stuff because it's gon change everything and shout out to you for just having the absolute tenacious drive to get it done if you're not following Ashton like I don't know what to tell you man like get on it right now all the incredible speakers Roy and Gavin and the freaking unbelievably like genius scientists who always contribute to all this stuff freaking amazing all the way around uh I'm gonna take a couple days break from spaces uh and then check out my boy Alex Jones check out what we're creating as far as content to be able to break through we are changing blockchain and AI technology to create absolutely new stuff in a way that I am crazy excited about but I'm looking forward to getting back doing more these late night spaces hey Dustin DUS now would be a good time to drop the uh the alpha that the uh together with Dustin The Alex Jones project is gonna be working on these docu a docu series that uh goes down the rabbit hole of conspiracies and Ashton Maz Ian we'd love to have any of you guys on our show to cover these stories um you know we're gonna be working with Dustin so if you guys are interested just reach out and we'd love to have you on oh yeah now listen those are going to be bangers like again we're we're trying to create the kind of content that we can push out that is entertaining and fun and different and it is absolutely absurd because there's no censorship involved and we're having crap tons of fun doing that's where I've been if you guys have been wondering I I kind of helped build this entire ecosystem where we've got 25 different projects creating daily content that is literally poking holes in everything like I could not be more proud of like what we're doing with that way I got through a whole space without Shilling it so you best believe I was not going to go all the way because uh I'm passionate about it but ashon shout out to you maze love you uh Alpha and the crew Everybody in here thank you guys so much for another amazing space let's do it again very very soon go ahead Chris I'll give you the last word thank thanks I just wanted to say that free energy um look at the battery that you use for alignment to run a little clock as a kid experiment you need anode a cathode and the and the lemon the ocean is the Lemon you just need an ADD and cathode the biggest battery on planet D I can't wait for the free energy stuff maybe that that maybe that'll be the next Spas we do we'll do that in like a week or so right there there's so much out there that like again it feels like we are right on the preice of like fullblown not government disclosure but us just tying all the loose ends together and like dude can you imagine what the world looks like the day after free energy is like Unleashed we get we get back to Tesla and right like energy generating architecture man I could go on and on and on but I I really can't don't forget about tartaria you know what I'm saying those coils on top of buildings and in the um those fireplaces the star fors all of that [ __ ] and rating architect baby oh man I I literally could do this all night but I am absolutely wiped so I'm G shut her down we'll see you guys next time love you all appreciate you Ashton you're the freaking man keep on the path thanks Dustin thanks Ashton thanks everyone okay I think that's think it just ended okay let's switch this over remove that okay guys uh thank you very much why is this not closing there we go sweet okay guys awesome stream tonight appreciate you all out there somebody asked who Mike Harris was he was a contractor that was working for Motorola as a contractor when freescale semiconductors broke off from them so the fact that he made this weird comment about the plane going into a portal or another dimension was pretty damn bizarre especially because he just offered it up there like that's not the kind of thing you say unless you have some real weird inside information I almost felt like he was talking to the Future there guys uh I'm going to drop guys I'm exhausted I'm probably going to retweet the man in America um interview from the other day because I didn't retweet the the actual interview and I don't think I'm gonna post any stuff tonight I'm just too tired uh but I do have some other I'm gonna do more like once per day like long form content where I like either give my thoughts or updates on the case or stuff like that um so I hope you guys enjoy that and when I have an update on the the plan for trying to prove that the ether's real or whatever uh I will let you guys know that um I do want you to know that things are moving the background I am trying to you know get some kind of answer to this case and closed out so just thank you guys very much honestly from the bottom of my heart thank you for watching thank you for being here uh and we will talk again soon next stream will probably be tomorrow and we'll go over uh science guys have a great night everybody peace I'm GNA play you out with the play out with 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