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The thing that I've struggled with the most when it comes to fusion is is the system closed or open. And what I mean by that is when we are dealing with our fusion reaction, is the textbook definition of the energy release all there is to it or does the scalar term add another element? And this is a small difference but it's also huge at the same time because if we say that there's an additional term there is an additional input of energy the 0 point energy for example into our fusion process. Now we can design a system that is infinite coefficient of performance infinite energy. And this is what Dave Rossi was alluding to in our Sunday conversation. He was saying that what if what we have to first do is couple to the system and get negative entropy. And when I was basically saying, well, we have to hit these huge energy levels and then all of a sudden we'll see these effects. He goes, well, what if we just have to couple with the system and produce a negative entropy system and then we can kind of do whatever. That's what he's implying. So, I've been on the fence both ways on this conversation. I don't I can't decide if we really need this extra input or if we can explain it all from our conventional understanding of nuclear physics, nuclear science. I'm now leaning back towards there is an extra input and it represents infinite energy. And the reason why I'm leaning that way is because of Randall Mills and Hal Pudof that both essentially are saying that there is this source, this reservoir of energy and that when we're doing things like cold fusion, we're tapping into that. Maybe it really is just unlimited energy forever. Like not even the difference between we could burn up all the hydrogen which would take forever anyway versus just nope we can just pull the energy straight from space time. That's the difference. The difference between conventional fusion is well technically we're using up hydrogen when we're fusing hydrogen and turning into helium technically. But there's so much hydrogen that it wouldn't really matter. It's the number one most abundant element in the universe. Right? So, it's a difference that seems slight, but it also matters a lot. Also matters a lot. And I'm not necessarily that sure and confident on which conceptual view of unification, the idea that quantum mechanics and general relativity can be combined. I'm not sure which is the best or which one makes the most sense at the moment, but zero point energy, I think, is the idea that makes the most sense. So, electricity, I was sent another video by actually the nuclear engineer who was like he wasn't debunking, but he was poo pooing on helium fusion cuz he didn't understand a neutronic fusion. I think that's kind of ironic because the thing he doesn't understand, the reason why he doesn't get a neutronic fusion is potentially the very thing I just mentioned that there's this extra input of zero point energy. If that's the case, then that means all the nuclear engineers in the world don't know what they're doing, which is pretty crazy to think about. At least the vast majority of them don't know. And they've been doing the math all wrong this whole time, which is pretty scary. Almost all forms of energy that we produce right now, electricity that we produce, not energy, but electricity, are essentially just a turbine, steam spinning a turbine. Basically, we heat stuff up. We use that heat to boil water and then we use the steam from the water to spin a turbine. That's essentially no matter what form of power you're looking at, nuclear, oil, coal, essentially all of them do that. All of them. So what you're talking about when you're talking about climate change and its effect on the climate is you're essentially talking about how much carbon you're using. you're essentially talking about how efficient the process is and um then you're talking about whether or not it's renewable or not like how long will that run for and these are not simple answer questions but let me just skip to the end the answer to those questions in terms of what are you trying to achieve to optimize all those things fusion fusion is the answer. Fusion is a source of practically unlimited. It's not technically renewable, but you have so much hydrogen that it doesn't even matter. The efficiency of fusion is unparalleled. Only nuclear would even come close. Solar, wind, they're not even remotely close. And then on top of that, a neutronic fusion is direct energy conversion. What that means it's the highest possible efficiency into electricity. When we think of we want to just pull electricity out of the atoms, that's only a neutronic fusion because a neutronic means no neutrons. Neutrons are the heat. So if you get rid of the heat, you're doing direct energy conversion into electricity. I was asking Grock about fusion. I was looking for stuff related to rtor and fusion and the connection to zero point energy 1996 cold fusion and zero point energy. So here it says on June 23rd 1996 Dr. Bob Heronymus conducted a live radio cold fusion special with Eugene Malv of MIT, Professor John OM uh Bakris and Dr. Hal Pudof. What follows are transcripts of the separate interviews between Dr. Brockas and and Pudof. Even though propagandists like Rush Limba say that ecological disasters are nothing more than left-wing media hype designed to tax big businesses. Our environment is not in good shape. And yet there's a great deal of hope that new energy technologies can do a lot to keep us from entertaining an ecological no return zone. Before we review cold fusion and zero point energy, would you assess in general terms the possibility that new energy technology could revise our environmental problems? What does Pudaf say? So this is the moment where Pudof could have gone, yeah, turns out, you know, we're we're destroying the environment. We got to clean up the environment. We got to make everything cleaner. Blah blah blah because, you know, we got to go invest a bunch of money in uh solar power. He could have said that, but you know, he ain't going to say that. Actually, Bob, I'm quite confident that will be the case. Before we knew of atomic energy, we thought we were running out of coal and maybe oil wouldn't last too long. And then we came upon atomic energy. Now, as it turns out, atomic energy has its pluses and minuses, as you realize, but still, it was a new source of energy that hadn't been thought about before. But once we had it, we could exploit it. I think about this at a time we are entering a new phase in which a lot of new energy research is going on. Whether it's solar, wind, and so forth, but also so-called zero point energy that we will be speaking about tonight. I think that holds out a lot of hope for our future environmental situation and as far as we know it, a completely benign energy source as far as ecological concerns go. So Hal Pudof says right here, this is something we've said a lot. He says that if you think about zero point energy, he says if you look at microscopic scale, it's more of like the base of the waterfall with a lot of frothy sething activity going along. Talking about quantum mechanics, zero point energy rather than just something like placid empty space. He's saying space is not empty. This is 1996. In fact, John Wheeler, John Archerald Wheeler, one of the developers of the hydrogen bomb, likes to point out that the volume of a coffee cup, for example, in empty space, there is roughly enough energy to evaporate all the world's oceans. This, by the way, is not a fringe concept. This is the basic underlying concept in modern quantum theory. There it is, Chad. This is one of the earliest references I can find ever out there related to that coffee cup reference. And now we know, no doubt, that coffee cup reference is referring to an empty coffee cup. Empty cup of empty space has enough energy to vaporize all the Earth's oceans. Think about that. Now, go back to the beginning of this live stream where I said I'm at a crossroads trying to determine if fusion is really restricted to just the chemistry of the molecules involved in fusion or if there's an extra source or if there's an extra source. Hal Pudof's ground state of the hydrogen atom scientific paper argues that the atom the electron spinning around the atom should be radiating energy away. It should be radiating energy away and in the process the electron should slam into the the nucleus should slam into it. But that doesn't happen. And therefore the model that he developed is that the 0 point energy is feeding energy to the electron orbital as the electron orbital is losing energy in an equilibrium in an equilibrium. And what this implies then though is that if you could squeeze the electron orbital down then it would release energy. It would release energy and in theory then that energy would go back to normal afterwards. This is almost identical to Randall Mills hydrino theory. Now, I'll go ahead and say Randall Mills does not agree. I've been emailing him and we've had some interesting emails back and forth, but he thinks that he's got it solved and nobody else has it solved. The government doesn't have it solved and he doesn't believe that there's this 0 point energy out there. He thinks that when he squeezes the orbital that's just potential energy, which that's an interesting thought. You what you're saying there is we've got this potential energy there and if I squeeze it, I'm releasing that potential energy out. The same way if the rock is on the hill and I push the rock down the hill, I'm releasing potential energy from the rock being up at the top of the hill. But the alternative approach is the one that I just told you, which is that the electron is radiating energy. It's just absorbing energy at the same rate from the 0 point energy field. So those are the two different theories on this. Okay. Well, now we can get to some cold fusion. Earlier tonight, we reviewed the progress being made in cold fusion by Dr. Eugene Malov and Dr. Brockus Bakris. From your perspective, what is cold fusion? Is it a fusion process? He says, "I guess at this point I may have a minority view." This is Hal Pudof. I don't actually think that it is fusion. One of the complaints that people have about fusion is that all the heat coming out, I would expect, one would expect that there to be a lot more radioactivity, a lot more neutrons, x-rays, and so on. Yet the amount of actual heat that comes out is extraordinary at least as claimed in some of the experiments in comparison to some of these so-called fusion products. So I am entertaining the possibility that although there may be some low-level fusion going on and certainly professor Brock is going to go over the data of transmutation of elements makes it look like there is some fusion going on. I think that it may be possible that a greater amount of heat energy is coming out as a result of zero point energy extraction process. Hello. Well, well, well. Would you look at that? And there are a couple researchers in addition to myself who've been trying to work out the theory of how that might be the case. I think that so-called cold fusion phenomenon are very complex and may involve more than one process. Of course, being a zero point energy chauvinist, I think that it is zero point energy. Maybe I can be forgiven for saying well cold fusion is probably from zero point energy but actually we've gone beyond that and we've made some predictions that we are trying to check out in the laboratory. I think that at this point to be honest we just have to say we don't know what the phenomenon is. So I think this is pretty interesting because I would love to know if there was ever a followup to that testing that he did in the laboratory. I think that if Pudof was taking it seriously even at this point in 1996 then he probably knew it was legit. He says when the idea of the hydrogen atom was first put forward in the form that you often see it in textbooks where it looks like a tiny little solar system with the electron planet circling around the nuclear sun. One of the questions at the time was why doesn't the electron simply radiate its energy away and spiral into the nucleus in a way similar to the way our satellites have certain losses and spiral into the planet. At the time the answer was simply well it's just magic of quantum quantum theory. It doesn't obey classical rules and for some reason hydrogen atoms are like little perpetual motion machines. But in fact from the standpoint of zero point energy approach we now recognize and the calculation has been done. In fact I published it myself. This is how putoff we show that indeed you expect an electron in a hydrogen atom to radiate its energy away but it picks up energy from the background zero point energy and is therefore sustained by it. What that means in terms of physics is that it shows why atoms can be seen as perpetual motion machines. It is just that they always have an energy input from the background to make up for the losses. One of the embodiment of cold fusion we are looking at is the possibility that when the hydrogen atoms enter into metal lises the conditions for that balance changes and as a result calculations can be done to show that some energy is released. There you have a case where by playing by very smart by playing very smart with the hydrogen atom, you have a chance to change its orbit under certain conditions and possibly get a release of energy. Yatsi chat. Little yatsi for your Friday night right there, guys. Um, the secret to all of this is getting your hydrogen trapped in your lattice of your metal. That's the secret to all of it. All of it. That's the secret to thermonuclear weapons, too. Do you know what the fusion payload is on a thermonuclear weapon? Deuterized lithium. Do you know what that means? Take a take a wild guess, anybody in the chat. What do you think deuterized lithium means? It means they squeeze the hydrogen inside the metal lattice of the lithium. They have to use a special process to do it. They have to do a special chemical process to get the chemicals to mix together. And then the duterized lithium can basically be molded into whatever shape they want after that. So you basically force your hydrogen to get into the lattice point of your metal just like they did with the cold fusion experiment when they had their duterized hydrogen would get stuck in the palladium lattice. Same concept same exact concept so there's how pudof saying what's going on here and his view of zero point energy. Now this is I'm going to give it two different perspectives. One perspective is the Randall Mills perspective. Brilliant light power. Randall Mills is saying there is no zero point energy. But then the question is, okay, when you squeeze your hydrogen atom down, how is it going to go back out? How's it going to go back out? How is it going to regrow? Where's the energy going to come from for it to go back to normal again? Assuming that it does. So, I guess this would be the way to test it. If you find a way to squeeze the orbital of the electron of the uh electron on the atom, if it goes back to normal, then we know zero point energy is the answer because the only way it can go back to normal is it has to get an input of energy somewhere. If you squeeze it and you release energy, the only way for it to go back to normal is it has to suck that that that energy that same amount of energy back in. This is the reason why I don't agree with Randall Mills. Random Mills is saying, "Yes, you can squeeze it down." And now this is a hydr. If I squeeze the electron orbital down, it'll be stable down here in this smaller state. This is my hydrino. That's what Random Mills calls it. I call that negative energy. This is the standard amount of energy. Squeeze it down, get some energy out. So the secret is the lattice structure of that. So I was looking at RTOR. I said, you know, tell me everything that you know about RTOR here. said, "RTORE claimed to use a high explosivedriven shock waves in lithium dutyium mixes to trigger fusion in small containers, producing energy without uranium. There's no way that he hit the nail on the head like this and it wasn't legit." The fact that they discredited him, that said it didn't work, that it was pseudocience, I don't believe it at all. In fact, that this might have been the first situation where we began to suppress this technology from the public. At this point, mainstream history views him as a charlatan. So, he went to Argentina since his death and he said that he saw how do he say Richtor studied physics in Prague, worked at particle accelerators in Germany in the 1930s. He claimed to observed anomalous phenomenon in plasma experiments in 1939. That's from the document that I linked. RTOR was aiming for clean fusion without fishing primers or radioactive waste using dutyium and lithium in plasma arcs. Chat, are you kidding me?