Hard Truths #4 Salvatore Pais & Dave Rossi & Ashton Forbes - Quantum and Macro Unification

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# Hard Truths #4 Salvatore Pais & Dave Rossi & Ashton Forbes - Quantum and Macro Unification yeah OBS I don't know it makes you like wait 10 seconds before it goes yeah yeah yeah okay I think we are Live on YouTube right now we're going to start up the recording right now as well record on the computer recording in progress okay we are recording welcome everybody hard TRS number four the Epic podcast with Salvatore Pas who is a engineer with the Navy who has patents out there of advanced scientific Concepts that we're going to go into today as well as Dave Rossy DOD engineer self-taught genius as well as two of my favorite people on the entire planet I can't wait to get into it with you guys here today so let's just start it up and do it s we're gonna let you start go ahead thank you sir we just want to say right off the bat and I I think I can speak for for brother Rossi you are our favorite person put it this way without you uh the high frequency gravitation wave generator induced propulsion paper would have never seen the viral what you talking about what you mentioned one 1.5 million I I yes that's like whoa that's the highest I've ever gotten for anything so God bless you thank you sir I owe you but anyway so let me just um give a disclaimer of the bat uh again I'm Salvador pz I'm um let's call myself for now a a Navy engineer and um I'm here as a private citizen and any of my opinions my statements and so forth are mine and mine alone they're not repres representative of the United States Navy nor the United States uh space force um that said also I would like to ask my brothers in arms over here to to make sure that uh uh we do not um Ebe in other words we do not um educate or Enlighten the enemy in anything we say that being said let me just go directly into the Super Force and this is something I found recently which which totally it boggled my mind I I didn't believe it at first but I did I I did the math again and it works out the beckenstein Hawking entropy expression the formula for it is on the order of the bolman constant divided by H bar c times the Super Force times the black hole surface area in other words the area of the Event Horizon and I see brother Russy smiling because he knows what that means because it talks directly to the holographic principle it is the super force acting on the inventor Horizon that gives rise to the amount of information in the bulk of the black hole this is a first and new heart heart truth podcast this has not been published yet this is the first so if anybody publishes this how should I I say the wrath of God will come down upon them because the three of us we are The Three Amigos as they say so um put it this way this shows something very interesting because the Super Force Now talks to what remember the beckenstein Hawking theory is one of the things that string theory was able to show I believe that it is possible that the Super Force may actually Aid in showing that the string theory the string theory we're talk about the string as a vibrational filament of quantum stuff for lack of a better terminology but you understand what I'm talking about so again String Theory may be the final Theory and it may be proven with the Super Force the Super Force is essential in eventually possibly driving an experiment that who knows possibly brother rosi Ashton and I will put together down the road and um if we can actually show that string theory is the ultimate final theory if you remember what the great Weinberg said you know what this means we will be the Beloved of the academic Community forever more so this could actually what I just said right now could actually may may start a third revolution in string year the second being the great wh of course of course I'm I'm not saying that how should I say that I just gave it away this has a lot of work to do with it but the Super Force must be looked into again the C to the fourth the C speed of light to the fourth power divided by Big G is essential absolutely essential in even determining what the entropy of a black hole and remember that this so-called black hole this quote unquote portal that's that is open out by the orbs that we're going to speak to is very essential in determining quote unquote quantum teleportation and the ability what if for every black hole there is a white hole what if every entrance has an exit it talks to Wormhole yes but this is different and brother rosi I'm I'm pretty sure has a lot to say about it but before brother Rossi goes into a certain very important experiments let me just I have three points to make I like the number three as you well know can't help it it's the Tesla Factor now I called okay so the first one I'll touch on the tri of sension I believe that these orbs and by the way we have to speak brother Rossi we have to speak to your fourth orb hypothesis is right on the money thank you right on the money because you have an XY so in other words you have the three orbs that determine the cartisian coordinate system XYZ or R Theta Pi in spical coordinates and you must have a destination that must be your fourth orb so anyway so we'll go there for sure now the tri of sension speaks to the possibility of these um uh of these orbs being um artificial intelligence agents as well so so in other words not only are they endowed with with Collision of voidance capability which is something that most likely was in effect by 2014 for sure because I remember they were doing work on the uass the X-47B they called it that's when unman had class but I I'll just leave it there and and U okay so the track of sension again speaking to the um the uh control of of these orbs possible self-control which is amazing I mean these are autonomous units once they're engaged once they basically switched on they're on their own and this is what makes them incredibly powerful now again the tri of sension speaks to this first in my opinion uh you must have very high level computational power possibly achieved in a m in a miniaturized system using parallel processing of GPU GPU units graphical processing units remember that these are possibly to be linked in a certain way that could give tremendous power capabilities ah brother Rosy I I love when you smile because you know when you smile that means I'm on point so thank you I appreciate that b time now I'm I'm smiling because I think we're basically saying the same thing I just I I want I just don't want to say too much okay oh oh thank you for that right EQ it cubed it cubed but I never gave numbers keep numbers no no frequency spectrums nothing remember just keep it General keep it in the realm of possibility conditional possibilities now um so the second one speaks to these most likely were trained these units are based on a multimodal model so it's not just a large language system this must have Incorporated images must have Incorporated 3D objects must have Incorporated a sound so these uh particular orbs let's call them artificial intelligence agents most likely have AGI capability can you imagine AGI possibility in 2014 gentlemen you you you realize just by extrapolation that we might have we in the black we must have achieved Singularity but anyway I'm not going to go there I will not touch that now anyway Hot Plate now the third one the third one is Big the third one is Big because once you train them on textbook data which is the second part the second branch of the track of sension you must train this multimodal models on on um textbook data highly approved ver validated verified data this is not internet stuff that you pull from Reddit this is stuff that you put out of holiday and Resnik fourth edition uh Caron's Collective electrodynamics The Road to Reality by R sorry Lord Roger Penrose Charles in Charles hint hint now now U so that was the second Branch once it's trained by by textbook data these multimodal models must have the ability to generate an original concept that is the third branch that is a must if they cannot generate an original concept which has never seen never been seen before not in physical review letters nor any other great publication nature science none none if they come up with an original concept for example for example and I I know people will accuse me of great huus but say you take Maxwell's equations I'm not going to go to the Super Force not yet even though that's you know I have a certain anyway so once you take MTH equation you realize just from from from Faraday's law the idea of the electric field strength equals c the speed of light times B the magnetic induction okay you take that you couple it to the fourth equation you know what I'm talking about I'm talking about the maxle Amper displacement current now right you you must come just those two alone will give you what basically the P effect was all about if that AGI is able to come up with that from just those four equations B based on what you fed it that's it that has achieved AGI capability and I'm not calling myself you know superhuman or anything like that I'm just saying you need a breakthrough of that nature to actually be called AI you need to originate a highly original concept never never to that point seen before okay so that's the tri of sentence now number two and this is very important I believe that physical mathematics must drive our current physics which must not be a physics of of Destruction must be a physics of creation what I mean by physical math mathematics I mean the physics must drive the mathematics not the other way around what we currently use is mathematical physics and yes the mathematics is beautiful it's usually uh this mathematics is usually there are four branches that are currently used that are AB beautiful and when fused together give for example rise to string theory one is calculus of variables then linear algebra then group Theory and then differential geometry and that's the genius of Einstein in general relativity Theory hence the the gravitational field equations so these four branches of mathematics once combined with the idea for example of harmonic oscillated what is this vibrational filament of quantum stuff for want of a better terminology I'm I'm pretty sure people such as Brian Green Brian King um um David Gross neemar Kan Hamed of course the great Juan malda Sena which by the way he said something um uh recently that totally took took me by surprise I did not know it it was in conversations on in quantum gravity the between him and Jac Aras Professor Aras of Cambridge of University asked um Professor Mal of the institute for advanced studies at Princeton University he they were talking this seems to be experiments back in 1968 they were based on trying to find um the strong interaction and there were experiments that actually showed that this physical entities may actually be experimentally solved and then for some reason they went somewhat quote unquote into the dark could it be ladies and gentlemen could it be that string theory is the ultimate final Theory and maybe something like the Super Force can bring it into how should I say maybe we need the greats like Whitten um malasa suskin um I believe his name is saskin sorry Lenny I yeah Queen's guy anyway the the the whole he's from Brooklyn you know can you believe the man started as a plumber and now he's one of the greatest we've got I mean he's one of the CH of string theory people like they they should especially the great win should engage into seeing whether this Super Force concept could actually be incorporated within String Theory eventually leading to experimental verification because that's all there is once One String Theory is even minimally or indirectly verified and you could say from the beckenstein Hawking entropy equation that it was verified through the um through the uh through the discovery of black holes I mean this Sagittarius A star that basically dictates the whole right H bar the sorry um the bolman constant kab bid by H Bar C which is that factor Believe It or Not gentlemen and ladies that factor is on the order of 100 so you can just eliminate you know gently nudge it out of the way because what comes the super force acting acting on the Event Horizon surface area again the genius of Malena yes ads equals CFT I was completely wrong by by saying certain things in the past I did not understand the the holographic principle is key because it shows it shows that information within the bulk actually resides on the Event Horizon surface area but what brings it into the Forefront what makes it talk is the Super Force that's what leads to the amount of of of of uh goodness gracious sometimes I I wish I had all the terminologies in the world sometimes I'm lost for words I I apologize but the whole idea is this look what the beckenstein Hawking it's funny because it's BH and that's way I Rec I remember it so the entropy of BH you know BH is in black hole that's interesting okay so the haing the the Hawking the the the beckenstein Hawking equation speaks to the amount of information that's within that bulk of the black hole which which is really what and brother Rossi knows this well what what is this it's basically the arrangement of micro States into the macro state that is representative of the structure we are talking here it could be that the Super Force will one day prove string theory and as the ultimate final Theory of physics a Theory of Everything String Theory so from people giving up maybe they will once again Revitalize this I think the Geniuses omala Whitten others David Gross oh my God Frank Wich bring in Wich oh my God bring in Wich will Che will between the four of them I mean if they can't figure it out you know what I'm saying but they will I mean these are four of the greatest we've got and uh of course Brian Green he has some very interesting ideas you have to see some of the some of the some of the podcast but anyway I digress I don't okay so that was the second Point okay eventually I'm pretty sure hopefully brother Ashton will have brother Rosy and I again sometime and then you'll hear some more crazy stuff now anyway so the third point is vacuum breakdown and that doctor hey I said Doctor then means I think of you as a doctor but you know what Dr Rossi all right so Dr Rossy no I mean it hey I have a PhD supposedly supposedly according to academic criteria I have the right well once I've achieved a certain level of professional ability which I think sorry I did when you're when you're Ashton when you're done s Ashton if you can give me a couple minutes I want to stand on the shoulders of what s is saying before we go to the videos absolutely okay so so the third point is vacuum breakdown how do these uh four actually it's very interesting because I've I've been thinking how how how does the fourth orb know exactly where that white hole is to be formed because that speaks exactly to how this warm hole is being formed that four the fourth orb hypothesis is essential to all this there must be a fourth orb otherwise God forbid MH370 will never materialize on the other side you know what I'm talking about right Dr RI okay so so so so no from now on I'm not kidding I'm addressing you as Dr Ro I apprciate you're saving you you're saving me words and I tell you sometimes I'm lost for words and like brother sometimes I call Brother Dr Rosy there you go sometimes you know I'll go to brother Rosy but okay so the third Point vacuum breakdown you need what are these orbs doing they're depositing great amounts of energy around them because we have to discuss the nature of plasma plasma may not just be the fourth state of matter as we understand it you have to you have to go back to Origins who coined it Irving langu in 1932 Nobel Prize winner why did he call it plasma because it reminded him so much of what of blood this he believed that these could be actually um capable of life and it's I I know a lot of people say oh he's G of the deep end but no look into the work of of Hans alvan Hans alvan the father of Magneto hydrodynamics wrote I believe it was called Cosmic plasma it was in the it was in the oh goodness gracious sometimes I wish I I had another head but okay it was in astrophysics and space science volum 82 I think published in 1981 so again astrophysics and space science I believe volume 82 Hans alvan called it um the uh the monograph or whatever you want to call it it was called Cosmic plasma and in it in it Alvin speaks to plasma not only being capable of action but but intention intention gentlemen this is a theory of Consciousness this this is sence these could actually be a type of life form could you imagine not only capable of hii but a life form this would totally break the understanding of academic physics as we now under again I strongly believe that we are in the infantile stages of physics we may be a two or three or four mon Sol tops we're definitely not o octogenarians and hopefully we'll never meet with Dr Kissinger's end because he did achieve that end at 100 years so when physics is of 100 years old then it has a right to how should I say bring in new physics until then we talking about New Perspectives on Old physics because after all we very young okay I've said enough um of course the third principle of vacuum breakdown speaks to um the schwinger limit and we've already spoken to this so brother Rossi has covered I covered it with Ashton in number one so anyway yeah you've had enough of that stuff it's called the B effect okay never mind okay sorry brother Ashton the floor is yours yeah I'm gonna pass it to to uh brother Rossy here in just a minute I just want to address a couple coup things that you said there CU I heard a lot of really amazing stuff one AGI the way I understand it it's Advanced artificial intelligence that can basically get to a point where it achieves a singularity and becomes sentient in itself and that you know that's something that I'm very interested in learning more about um I also heard I think which was essentially a unification Theory of physics and Consciousness which I'm also very interested in as well when you were start talking about plasma getting to getting more and more complex to the point where it obtains consciousness you know because the universe in my opinion is alive you know we may be part of a larger organism to some degree I agree 100% um and then the last thing I think I heard there was that we are still cavemen I think that we have this hubris amongst us as humans where we think we are at the Pinnacle of civilization and science where we're really at in infancy State you know we can get so much more advanced to where we are right now excuse my language but I sometimes think with a bunch of Apes clanking rocks sometimes yes sorry for the language playing without balls and calling it magic yeah okay I'm done yeah Dave Rossy and I on his podcast we're actually talking about this just the other day so I can't wait for that to come out publicly um and go ahead uh Dave it's that the floor is yours sir sure thank you so I just wanted to say that this is something that I I want to I've been writing down as s was speaking a beautiful Intro by the way s and this is for uh Ashton your of course yourself and of and your lovely audience because I know a lot of people I noticed in your audience Ashton they want to learn and so that's that's amazing so I'm not claiming here to know everything anyone who does in my opinion is full of crap but a couple of things I wanted to stand on uh Sal's brother Sal's shoulder on which is that again without giving specifics um a lot of what um s has been discussing seems to be supported by what's called uh Boman coherence and decoherence that Carlo relli has uh avidly looked into and I fully agree with you uh on the black hole white hole side of things largely because of Carlo rll's work s um the other thing that's very interesting in terms of you know uh we could say many decades ago literature that seems to have been suppressed is that Halper and Lauren in the 1960s had a couple of papers that basically were titled the gravitational radiation of microscopic systems and interestingly enough it was deemed by certain institutions that I won't say the names of we know them very well today the the attempt to even take it to an experimental stage was deemed not feasible so it it just makes you think why do they why are there certain you know yes men or no men saying what can or can't be experimented on that's another thing um the one thing also I want to point out too is that I I encourage uh your audience Ashton to when we bring these concept Concepts up whether it's Brother s or myself or even yourself Ashton one of the things I found in my in my self-learning journey is that you need even though it may be difficult you have to go back to the actual um authors who wrote the paper not what someone wrote about the paper because then that's where a lot of things get fuzzy you have to go for example to the original origin Origins Origins Origins right right exactly there are a lot of things in for example I'm just gonna S I think you know what I'm going to say here but there's a lot of people that don't know what the source charge problem is for example I'm I'm going to leave that there um Dr Rossi you're a remarkable man I must say truly remarkable this is what I mean that's what no this is what I mean if you ever tell me that you weren't able to publish in physical review letters I will take apart that freaking Journal as much as I love it as much I I would love to publish in it I make sure that certain things are done to it period I appreciate i' very grateful s the other thing I wanted to clarify as well very quickly is that um just to respectfully say Ashton um I'm not a DOD engineer I'm a con contractor consultant just to be clear so I'm not employed by the dod I would just like to clarify uh for anyone that may have uh any misunderstandings there um the other thing that's very interesting is that Fineman said something that's very interesting which is that when charging a capacitor the actual energy is seen on the edges of the gaps and not from where you're charging it from which goes back to what s Brother s was saying about this Quantum vacuum if nothing is there then how is the electricity coming on the edges of the oh hey there we go the super exactly how is the electricity coming in through the edges and it's not coming from the part where you're charging it clearly there might be a sort of kinetic friction going on there now the final thing I want to say with regards to the fourth orb that I brought up which in my opinion sort of completes a quadripole uh system is and please tell me S if you think I'm wrong with what I'm about to say here but to give a visual for everybody what I Envision in my mind is the three orbs circling the plane and what happens is the same way you stretch an elastic band you have a fourth orb there and the second that that P the Super Force and P effect occurs it's the same way of letting go of the elastic and then it shoots back to the original point it's basically stretching and expanding space in that sense so we keep one orb here three orbs go to the plane once everything is locked in Let It Go Boom it's there that's and not only that think trajectory TR what we seeing a trajectory for black hole or quote unquote portal even though I choose black hole because I truly believe every black hole has a white hole there are no such thing as SpaceTime singularities I I I I I apologize to Lord Penrose that's the only thing that I will disagree with him on the man is amazing my God Spinners twist Twisters oh yeah anyway now now the basically okay so so the the the the point of origin is described by what a cartisian system XYZ say in sperical coordinates would be R Theta PI right right your point of destination where you sending this thing has to be one point that's all you need is one point so hence this four orb must be there it's it it really is no it it needs no more explanation than that even though your explanation of the rubber I love that I absolutely love it that sounds like something that R would love to okay oh wow thank I appreciate that that's a philosopher have you heard him have you oh not too much but I can tell through his philosophy of physics is beautiful truly beautiful I think well if I could say as well in from a philosophical sense C I think your your eloquent description of the Super Force shows that the limited of the The Limited aspect of the Super Force once the vacuum is uh opened up gives rise to the Limitless so you have this vast sort of you know the diria it's been called and uh the other thing I wanted to mention for your audience Ashton and the reason I'm not going into describing all of these things is because we can spend hours just on one of the terms I brought up but for those interested the uh the sagnak effect S A naac the SAG neck effect in certain conditions is an example of absolute rotation and what I what I mean by absolute rotation is again arguably creating a sort of bubble or void around you that voids reality or the space-time metric and this is why in my opinion as well when people see craft and on their cameras it's very blurry and things like that they're just seeing the flat intersection because you were not seeing from the external Observer point a three spatial Dimension and one time Dimension that the occupants in the craft are seeing which is why I'd love to give a quick thought experiment which is when people see Craft um you know for example in a certain spot how many stories where people have heard oh my gosh you know the craft was there for 6 hours and it was just moving just a little bit here just a little bit there what if I'm not saying this is what it always is but what if the CRA the occupants inside the craft are sort of like playing through a movie re different points in time in the same space but from the external observer's point of view time is just because time is just linear so they don't see they're just like what the crap has been there for six hours but on the inside what is time right Dr Rosia I want to ask you in you okay would you say time may be how should I um an energetic property of nature which which basically makes it in such a way that everything doesn't happen at once how how would you define time yourself would you say physical time is real it's not just something that's measured by clocks but very real 100 here's the thing there's a lot of stuff I want to say but well maybe after the stream s because I know basically if I the best example think the study of time is tremendously important well one example for your audience time crystals yes yes oh my goodness and you know what it talks to it's interesting how all of a sudden Professor wch is not in the public eye anymore I very very en tiing yeah let me just yeah the way the way so basically for Ashton's audience the best way I I visualize time uh for those that may have seen the film tenet by Chris dealing with entropy so the way I sort of visualized it without getting into the numbers and all of that is all around us right now there are these longitudinal waves that are there but they're also not at the same time now each time we do something there's sort of it's kind of like a long Slinky now every time I pick up my pen and put it down one Loop has been completed sort of like a film reel and then you move on to the next one and that these these Loops like fil res are moving like up and it's hard to that's the best way I can do it without giving away uh ecbe things if you know what I mean so you know what really gets me Stargate the movie the way they open up the way it actually shows what looks to be a watery effect remember yes my goodness my goodness whoever whoever advice for that movie yeah knew something did you see that did you see that guy in Arizona open that portal allegedly on Fox News no no no but I just remember I it's just fascinating how how close the movie Stargate yes to the truth of exactly what would happen if such a portal was open it makes it makes you think because even for example it speaks to the possibility that there are anti- verions of us if that makes sense and all of these different yeah it gets it gets interesting but anyways Ashton um I I said all my little pieces and parts and this can go in a hundred different directions so wherever you'd like to take it brother so I think I want to start by saying that you know I want to shout out to Roy de Herbert who has his time dilation Theory out there we were just talking about or dilation what it's called right and um you know the big thing there is a time a fluid Symmetry and time flows differently depending on how much mass you're near right and so I just want to reiterate there for that for that for people because I think not a lot of people in understand that time dilation is a real concept and a real proven thing that's out there so when you guys are talking about time going slower faster for the Observer versus the occupant this is all real Concepts that have already been proven can I bring something up actually quickly Aston there have been cases of sence and what I mean by that is there have been investigators that have seen that when a craft is close to some plants in a garden and the craft takes off they go the the investigators approach the plants and the plants have aged three years in 2 minutes and that speak to acceleration that speaks to sell yeah yeah Dr Rossi let me bring it to something there are a lot of people that may disagree with my statement but there's great Geniuses in a certain man that is not over he is a doctor but he's not of what what I would call a physics pedigree but if it wasn't for this man I would have never known of Gabriel cron I would have possibly not even yes and I believe he knows Eric Dollard as well but anyway anyway I would have not really knew about Charles PR assments I would have not known of some very very great people his name is Joseph P farell I believe Farrell maybe yeah Joseph farell he writes a book called secrets of the UniFi field that I I would like every one of your audience to look into he has a latest book called the demon in the E I believe the pronunciation is Aur because it's Sumerian supposedly this was the Gathering Place of the seven gods of Suma the Anu Naki the children of Heaven and Earth but anyway I will not bring it there just look into what Dr Joseph farell frell I believe has to say about plasma it is extremely important because it talks to the orbs these orbs may not just be featuring AG I but they may actually be some form of sensient life form yeah the line gets pretty blurred right and when we start to figure out what what even is sentience at that point so I appreciate you guys in this intro kind of going through a lot of the scientific Concepts especially for our academics who are following along um and then you know I'm just been trying to break it down for our laymen who are out there as well like me and I think it's just been mind-blowing we Al also just want to touch quickly on the holographic principle that the idea that all all of this is only possible because our universe is a construct of sorts and that the science then supports this idea of there there being this construct of this if I could say quickly construct that can be perhaps infolded and outfolded if that makes sense yeah why not both a hybrid of the two right remember the great line from Ando oh I love this line oh please please indulge me Ashton I've alwaysed to go for it if if a certain Jack saot is known as a Wolfman to certain physic Circle then I'm a hybrid half lik half vampire but stronger than both that's uh thank you I I'm gonna throw another quote out here too from uh something you said early on S which you just reminded me which is this quote that first they ignore you then they laugh at you then they fight you and then they build monuments to you guys so you know we're somewhere in the middle at this point and we're working our way towards it you Ash do you a pullet surprise will not only be given will have to be given but I tell you you really have the tenacity and perspicacity over a shellock Holmes combined with a patient and perseverance of a St Augustine and why St Augustine because I love what he had to say about time it's all about that so sir we salute you both Dr rasia and I salute you thank you very much I don't know how you do I tell you I could not put up with some of your detractors yeah not name names I've seen certain things that really truly piss me off and we're talking about saf kind of piss me on but I won't I won't say that more than that you know not everybody's an idiot okay I I'll leave it there yeah um and if you're talking about s Augustine I'm just going to go ahead and quote that one of his quotes is that God is love um something to keep in mind and love is God so you know this all kind of comes together in uh maybe that's a little bit of a sappy way but uh I think that it's important that we treat one another with respect and dignity yes I think it's it's it brings up the question which is if we were to quickly Circle it back to these orbs if they're having some type of plasma deployed around them perhaps or you know a Bose Einstein condensator something like this is it possible perhaps that they are interacting with the we could say the daxy of the quantum vacuum that transmits information from the non-material to the material and is expressed through the actions of the orbs which then makes one think holy crap is this alive so to speak and I yeah yeah that's really interesting yes um yes so let's you want to go look at your scientific experiments first uh sure sure yeah I want to while Ashton's pulling it up I just want to be clear um to Brother s and to the uh and to the audience as well what we are seeing here is not anti-gravity I want to be very clear it's a form of Magneto hydrodynamics using a super super conductor and Ashton uh brother before you play it um if you could just let me break down what we're seeing before we play it sure go for it to give everyone um just want to make sure uh is it everyone could see it oh yeah I'm pulling it up right now so I thank you okay so very simple what we have on the uh is a bowl just a you know like from the kitchen an aluminum bowl that has inside of it a super conductor with a magnet in its Meisner state above it filled with liquid nitrogen and that's it now the bowl with the white uh wire is connected to a high voltage DC generator and then it connects back with the red wire to an electrode that creates a spark gap U that we pulse the bowl with now we pulse the bowl and then at the below the bowl is an electromagnet we pulse the bowl with high voltage first and then we pulse the electromagnet and we're going to see the effect that we'll see in a moment if uh if you could play it brother yeah this looks pretty awesome and this looks like something that you get a knock on the door if you do this without permission just I'm not going to get I want to say very quickly that for those looking to replicate you do need a specific type of uh how can I put it superconductor geometry and I'm not going to reveal that detail when I Tobe when I hear to Enlighten or in any way educate the enemy right so when the electromagnet is then pulsed we'll see in a second wow there's instant now this is liquid hydrogen liquid liquid nitrogen in the bowl yeah you see over here now this thing's gone flying so is the idea behind this that we are seeing another mechanism of potential propulsion here that we're able to create by this force that is being exerted precisely yes yeah this my calculations have shown for example that this type of propulsion can get us to you know for example certain planets within days instead of months or years um do you see what I mean by far from equilibrium phenomena This is highly nonlinear this is what you talking about the secondary effect it's all about far from listen to me I have a feeling the the trick here is the engineering of the priorin effect and it's not easy it is not again plasma will not be subdued it it it will not be coerced it's extremely hard to deal with right plasma has a mind of its own period Yes actually one of the things that I I unfortunately for the sake of ebed will not be showing publicly is it's interesting no numbers no yeah no no no yeah it's interesting to see if one implemented plasma into the setup what happens so I'm I'll just leave it there but yeah yeah especially a cold plasma right I'm not saying yeah right right right anyway this is really cool you very the my my idea with this was very simple very basic kind of like the AER andof bom effect you know it can very simple it's not some fancy you got all these things going on and uh just perhaps to show a second order effect now this is again same concept uh where it's uh the superconductor is is uh pulsed and we'll see in this particular case just a slow motion version of the instant liftoff yeah I love this slow motion one it goes backwards as well definitely the M effect this is not lens this is mner right y definitely but notice how it's almost instantaneous and it doesn't persist it's a transient phenomenon based on that particular yeah go y so one of the reasons I wanted to show these videos to your lovely audience Ashton is because I just want to show the how can I put it um I want to encourage people to to see that the Simplicity is really the complexity is in the Simplicity but at the same time I you know for for uh various genuine National Security and other reasons I can't go past this point but yeah this do not mention the material do not mention anything else please thank you no no problem got you sir yeah and I'm not a spy none of us are spies here we all love our countries and uh you know all that stuff in general so well we also just love science right and we love we we I think we all believe that um the science behind this should be made available to the public because for various reasons but because it can change our world for the better um this is the physics of creation not the physics of Destruction what Dr rosi has just shown is exactly that case in point and again it actually shows I'm sorry brother uh Ashton to just jump in like this but I gotta say this in my opinion the most complex of problems has the simplest of solutions yeah depending on perspective the again the hardest of problems has the simplest of solutions depending on perspective yes but it is important it is important to do away with the Box obliterate the Box the thinking outside the box should not again open system just leave it there yes if you remember Brother s when I brought up on asht brother Ashton's show open Pac-Man's mouth basically I love that analogy that's that's very good very thank you well Ashton brother thank you for showing that um hopefully it uh it it motivates some people in your in your audience to see that it doesn't um sometimes it becomes so easy to bridge from Theory to practicality if you take a different perspective on 1800s physics so yeah that's the other thing I think both you guys say that I um there was somebody in the space I did yesterday when was doing all review that you know couldn't believe that all this is true because it goes against everything they've been taught for Academia some people say this breaks their laws of physics it does not break the laws of physics we are taking the building block science is a matter of continuous learning and advancing on what we knew before and uh you know kind of changing our understanding of it and that's where I think we're looking at here is we're taking the old physics and we're looking at with a new approach with a fresh set of eyes and that's how we can achieve what we're achieving here in these experiments what both uh Brother s and Rossy are talking about as well as potentially what we're going to be looking at here in the uh MH370 videos yep yes so people are calling me now Ashton for orbs and to be honest with you I love it so please everybody if you want to keep calling me Ashton for orbs I really like it um yeah goad like I said Ashton I'm not I'm not a betting man I don't gamble but if I were to bet money I would bet big money there was a fourth orb in that operation you one I'm my my instinct and I tell you very few times in my the only time in my life that I didn't listen into my physical Instinct and I I I went really wrong my instinct tells me you're 100% on the money there is a fourth orb this is not a hypothesis this is the real deal so yes AC for orbs I love it oh let me just discuss a little bit that black hole that you see this you you call it a portal I call it the black hole and it also talks if you see carefully there's like a refraction wave into the Su remember Curson w the idea the way he describes that we most likely are living in a super fluid Universe well if you were that that that second ring around the black hole is like a refraction wave into the Super fluid which is away once you do away with the atmosphere what you have is that super fluid that defines the quantum vacuum that you and I talk to it makes you think black hole look at the black hole carefully yeah I'm sorry Dr Ry I'm sorry as but I got to talk to this before I forget remember I'm of a certain age if you know you know what I mean that that certain level of senility kicking in know I try to do you know I drink espresso like some people drink water you know I'm not talking about the I'm talking about dop you but anyway yeah I know wait to have coffee with you guys it's gonna be great we'll have some dop oh it's gonna be epic oh I have if you have a a visit you know where I'm not going to mention uh we got to go to this place oh my God they make they give you they actually you know like certain people don't give you the espresso and those little ceramic cups you know the that you hold with the two rings oh my God they still have that they still have that and your mik it is you have to smell it before you drink it if you you're talking you're you're talking to you're talking to an IT s you're talking to an Italian you should see my grand oh hey I mean right anyway um okay so that black hole it speaks directly to the temperatures okay remember the genius of Hawking the idea think what a black hole a black hole a black hole is a structure A Spacetime structure it resides at the intersection at the intersection of quantum field Theory general relativity and thermodynamic and this was the genius of hockey he actually came up what the formula is what um H bar H Bar C cubed because that's how the Super Force eventually comes in h Bar C cubed divided by 8 Pi G Big G times the mass the mass of whatever creates this black hole so for example a a a solar mass say a solar mass black hole would give you temperature on the order of uh 10 Theus 7 degrees Kelvin so we're talking about again the CNB the So-Cal Cosmic micro back uh background is on the order of what 2.7 degrees Kelvin so above absolute uh zero that if if say if you were to to trans to basically put the mass of this aircraft just take that mass put it in that formula it be like on theod white 10 the minus 3 degrees Kelvin 10 Theus 4 something of that nature I'm pretty sure your audience can check me remember the formula H bar CQ divided by um 8 Pi Big G times that mass okay that's that's the genius that's a temperature that sorry times times the times the mass or the mass density sorry it's it um on the bottom in the denominator it's 8 pi G mass the mass the mass most likely in kilograms because if if you look at the units right yeah um H bar is what is on the order of uh 10 to the minus 34 juw seconds because it's really a we talk about Quantum of action right that's what each bar is all about it's a reduced Quantum of action but it's got like 6.3 times 10 to the minus 34 but if you do the reduced it's got two Pi on the bottom so bum bum right so you get 10 Theus 34 seconds on the top and you do the math on the C Cube anyway the the idea being the idea being that this is in between CMB and on the order of 10 to the minus three Kelvin that's why you see that in that that incredible intrinsic Blackness because this thing extremely called it's called as it makes you it makes you think as it makes you think as well uh to Ashton and to brother Ashton and your audience brother it makes you think from the perspective of scaling in fractals what if perhaps these craft these things we see are inducing effects that are Miniature versions of what we may be within perhaps this is just speculation just the thought uh thought experiment but it speaks to this idea that perhaps again these are smaller versions the same way that these flat SpaceTime models are subsets of higher models arguing ably we have to wonder is it possible that when we scale this up the Super Force can then be tapped and do things way more than what we see here actually but oh yeah yeah say no more say no more yeah just one thing to add and and nothing else after that because I have a feeling that we're about to give numbers numbers are not required right right but but what if from a General Physics perspective what if there's a way to nudge the Super Force at a different scale than the plank scale look carefully look carefully at slide eight in that aiaa scitec 2019 that Ashton has um on the MH370 board look carefully at that um at that um AI presentation slide eight talks to something called solving the vacuum catastrophe there's something I want to say but I'm not gonna say yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm completely with you s by the way completely yeah and you guys didn't see this earlier but I was posting the flight path uh the MH 370x proposed flight path and I think it's very interesting that we've come to similar conclusions I just lost it now but I had it up a second ago um and that flight path we have in we can see in these videos actually it looks like in the final frame when this zap begins to happen the plane actually moves backwards a little bit and this I gotta talk to the zap we got to talk to the zap because we talk about cring disc remember black holes everybody saying how come you you know in the thermograph you seeing totally black but in the other one in the real image you're seeing this tremendous flash of light yes right chistian this look up black hole thermodynamics come on okay I'll leave it there I'm sorry I get a little yeah are you going are you speaking of Hawking radiation or are you speaking to just the accretion disc around a black hole when you speak when you say that because I was actually going to ask why you think there's a flash neg entropy perhaps as well that's possible as well yeah a couple possible reasons and yeah I was I'm going to try to pull it back up again but if we think sorry if we think one last thing if we think of the quantum vacuums as sort of like a negative resistor perhaps these effects on a grander scale could would explain that perhaps right POS yeah and I was showing uh the chat as well our proposed route you guys can't see it at the moment but it's interesting because in this zap right as it occurs and I'll go to the slowmo here as well so that you guys can see it a little bit better um you can actually see that the plane seems to move backwards a little bit which I think would go to the point that you guys here's one um you can see this this is the plane here but look at it's getting sucked backwards if you do the overlay over it you can see it being pulled backwards slightly which could indicate that maybe the fourth orb is in the direction of travel that's backwards where it's being pulled back just as you like that slingshot you guys were just elastic elastic band right so that's interesting because we've got this flight path that I'm pulling up uh that is currently overlay over the screen on my stream and if this plane's going to the East and this plane's getting pulled back then it would be getting sucked back towards the West which actually puts it over here in the Indian Ocean which I'm not going to speak to exactly where this is but this uh happens to be near location where we think the plane might have gone so um that's just very interesting theory for our people in the chat people who are inves ators out there uh that are looking into this um so let's speak a little bit about more about the orbs CU I think the orbs are the most interesting part about these videos I mean obvious Z if I could say one more thing before we go into the orbs I say this very serious but also in a joking way uh Brother s I need we have to find a way one day at some point to get in a lab together or something yeah absolutely we must but uh it has to be done in such a way that maybe for a crow or something we we need we need the hups yeah in the Navy in the what whatever it doesn't have to be just the dod could be the intelligence Community realizing that we know what we're talking about right and bringing us in as a think tank right because I'll tell you right off the bat brother what I think is coming and I will not go into politics but I'm also a student of History right okay and I think what is coming is is is is very very very almost surreal a things that you could not imagine the United States going through I think will happen to the United States and I am very afraid that our enemies are forming as we now H are having this this beautiful this beautiful Gathering of the minds they're forming an Unholy Alliance right let's just leave it at that but does this does this have to do I'll leave it I'll leave it very vague here does this have to do with an event starting with letter A I will give absolutely no clues as to what I have in mind my thoughts brother Rossi I know you and I and and brother Ashton we think alike in many ways you you know what I'm alluding to yeah okay so I got I got have vibrates on on a certain frequency I got you no without even words it's scary brothers it's scary because these people have us in the cross and I do not understand the hate yeah how can you hate this much we're all Homo sapiens sapien that's another thing that excuse my language pisses me pisses me to no end why must this be ET Tech are you saying that homo sapiens sapien is not is not capable of such Grandeur of thought no we are the skillcraft of En key and if you go back to Sumerian times you'll understand what I'm talking about has certain I creativity inventive purpose in mind we are capable of such things and maybe even grander so please enough with the ettech also said so it's funny what you say why you say this s because I was saying to Ashton just yesterday that uh in my opinion when Tucker Carlson a few nights ago did that big Premiere about UFOs um I would have preferred he said that laid out the different options maybe some of it's ours maybe some of it's not but not to take a jab at him but he seemed to be very sure that it's not ours and that's why I'm saying we have to we have to watch because I would make a bet humbly that some of it is yeah and if I can just jump in as well not only did I think the same thing as uh brother Rossi here about the Tucker piece with bersett I also had posted a piece from that Matt gates from these uip hearings and he posted the same clip just a few days ago and the part that astonished me was he said this is clearly nonh human technology and I'm just going looking at it not according to my evidence uh not according to the people I've been talking to that scared me because it told me that Congress is completely in the dark about what's going on Matt Gates was the one saying I'm the only person who's seen this and I'm going okay well then nobody really gets the implications here of what we have going on but I don't think people I think people have underappreciated how much progress has been made and how little the public has been shown that progress I think that's why I think that we need to form a new alliance right an alliance of people of the minds like we have here that can fight back against the Tyranny and oppression that's trying to hold us back that we can get this information out get it to our lawmakers who seem to be completely in the dark about it I don't think personally we need more UAP hearings I think we need conspiracy hearings to the people that are hiding this information from us and we need to get it out in a way to Sal's point that is safe that is going to not lead to the ruin that I think that you know ultimately that's the conclusion that I am coming to in my mind we need to come to a way where we use use it uh for the good and where we can set boundaries and regulations for the good of humanity as a whole not just weaponizing this technology to the destruction of Earth that will not benefit any of us we either unification not polarization that is the only way to save this Godly Nation I agree unification not polarization we must come together otherwise We Shall Perish apart period righted so um and in frame of that I want to talk a little bit more about the videos and then we can kind of philosophize a little bit more if you guys want um but I have questions for you guys that I want to I want to ask and I want to understand better so some people in the chat actually are mentioning they think that these orbs have two toids per orb in them so a toid is this doughnut shaped very um kind of continuous like uh doughnut within a donut type of shape and I'm just curious if if you guys agree with that or how you would explain the toroidal um could they be rotating could they be rotating they are there oh you can tell me oh Dr Rozi did I hit out something anyway please go ahead and elaborate for us because I think somebody mentioned that they're spinning counterclockwise let me I will let Professor RI discuss know what I'm talking about oh my gosh you counterwise because I want to say something as far as I'm concerned you and I are no different you and I are of the same pedigree why because we vibrate on the same frequency we understand each other the three of us are truly put it this way all for one one for all remember Quantum coh vitim of the Musketeers Alexander Dumar was was a totally creative genius and a great man a great man of philosophy because he understood her medic principle all is one one is all right without his belief everything goes to yes yes um beautifully said to answer your question or the audience's question Ashton I'll be honest I I I don't mean to be be so you know maybe this maybe that but I would be certain there's toroidal geometries occurring now I would honestly I don't want to say that I know more about it unless I had a look at one of them like in the lab or something so I don't want to say I know for sure there's a there things I'm sure of conceptually but I don't know how those particular orbs were engineered so it's a little difficult for me to to say um I'm certain toroids are involved counter counter rotating toroidal is something that I heard that's just I'm just gonna keep that in back mind think why do you think do you um I'm sorry brother Ashton sometimes I will do that and and and and please forgive me I truly but I have this tendency and they told me at work too you got to stop interrupting I have a bad tendency you know you know and I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm going to try to do better but I gotta get this again senility sending in so I got to get it out before I forget it no problem now the whole idea do you remember how these orbs right before the event occurs right before that black hole opens up portal whatnot teleportation portal right before then the the the the prob the orbs start doing what they pulsate the medium around the craft right yeah yeah so I'm alluding to when they're spinning around it in the ring formation don't take it don't take it further yeah it yeah no I'm trying to sorry Ashton when I Ashton when I go like break down vacuum break down yes when I go like this Ashton it's basically me trying to find ways to describe it without giving away any Trade Secrets basically if we ever meet and and do you guys everever do do that that meet up where in the lab you know I'd love to be a conscien Observer even if I have to sign an NDA I I might be willing to do it have to but will have to be careful it will have to be a skiff of some sort I know everybody look I like grush a lot I think what he's been putting up with is absolutely again yeah let's not forget alzando what he has been going through I mean these are people that one day will be called Heroes but until that point they will be called what they're called today right yeah unfortunately that is the way we are that's that's the way of humanity it's exactly what brother Ashton was saying earlier first they will call you a crackpot yeah then they will you know and eventually they will say that was their idea all along it's true it's it's like in it's like in the movie very quickly like in I think it was was Ford versus Ferrari where the the the the CEO of Ford or one of the big Financial backers he leaves before the race starts and he only he said he goes I'm only coming back if we win and then they win he comes back and he pretends like he he's orchestrated the whole thing he goes hey yeah yeah um so I want to ask a few more questions on this and then we can kind of just talk off the cuff I appreciate all the discussion we've been having I think that people enjoy probably the discussion about disclosure as well we've got a lot of people that are part of those communities here um one first thing I want to ask that's kind of fundamental which is what is breaking the schwinger limit is this what's required in order to in this Frame here we see begin this uh Singularity that we're seeing if I could say very quickly for me visually it's you go and I'll go sure sure this is already out there so I'll give numbers because this as a matter of fact Eric W Davis dror Eric W Davis and Mar Miller speak of this in Frontiers on propulsion science which by the way wait wait right before we break off into what you have to say I have to say this for the glory of mankind and the ability as Homo sapiens sapien to to actually say you know what we can do this ettech and we can do better for that glory and that Glory alone we must learn of new propulsion methods to do away with these uh these these these oversized Action Reaction dildos for L for lack of a better terms I'm sick and tired of freaking seeing Starship whatever you want to call it I want to see Enterprise yeah I don't want to see you know anyway I'll just leave it there sorry I sure breaking the swinger limit and I say this just for the sake of trying to do my best to translate to for those not as scientifically oriented and please brother sell tell me if this is not a good way to put it to me the schwinger limit is turning is basically getting a square to spin fast enough to to where it eventually becomes a circle and I'm oversimplifying like crazy but that's kind of for those maybe not as uh the analogy is beautiful from a a spatial temporal geometrical structure point of view and I I I I agree with it in in in many ways but I like in this point of view since they have given numbers since Eric W Davis and Mar Millis have given numbers in Frontiers um FR Frontiers um of prop science it's an aiaa compendium it's a heavy volume but it's it's a it's a beautiful book and I know Eric W Davis is not exactly how should I say a fan of mine but but I I can say that in in some ways I'm a fan of his so there you go so so Dr Davis if one day you find it in your heart to say maybe this guy is not such a crack out anyway so the the whole idea is we're talking about energy densities really energy densities on the order of 10 to the 25 Jews per meter Cub that translates again if you think of the point in Vector the man and and and Dr John brandenberg knows the the the the essential importance of the pointing Vector the um the Brandon Murad equations of GM Theory are very interesting they should be looked into and I believe Dr brandenberg will one day also be um hailed as a hero of of alternative quote unquote will become propulsion science Advanced prop let's not call it alternative let's call it Advanced propulsion science there you go so the whole the the whole idea being um your the magnitude of your pointing Vector would be on the order of of speed of light times epsilon0 the electric field strength Square okay so basically your electromagnetic energy flux that talks to that energy density I gave before it's on the order of 10 to the 33 watts per met squ I ask you do you think that's easy to do in lab especially in someone's garage no no exactly not using an electrically charged system but there are ways there are again where there's a will there's a way there are no where there's a will there's a way there are no impossibilities there are no physical impossibilities just conditional possibilities the trick as you will know Dr RI the trick is to find that engineering condition whereupon you can actually do this in the garage but I strongly advise against it right because I think you will find a a a team of of experts that are ready to um how should I say put an end to your experimentation that's funny that was my next question which was what would it take to reproduce this privately and how quickly would the government come down on us so it sounds like you just answered that question very I'm just going to be very open I this is one of the ways that actually the way that I practically got noticed was because I did exactly what Brother s said about two two and a half years ago and I I know this is going to sound crazy to some people but they they can pick up gravitational waves they have sensors course they can of course they can yeah and thank God for it could you imagine could you imagine the enemy on our territory engaging in anything else T forget that there other ways to to to achieve great harm right thank God they have ways of detection yes goodness listen to me we must be on the side of the good guys enough and that's why I'm saying ebed we must not educate and in any way Enlighten the enemy General General no numbers and for goodness sake don't try this in your garage right it I see that yeah who knows you see you know what I'm saying no don't to go wrong right and accidentally do something that we're not trying to certain things I won't I won't say here publicly but I I'm certain Brother s and brother Ashton I know they know for a fact but yeah there's certain things where if certain things went the wrong way I wouldn't be here I'm just being very honest yeah so the other thing I if I could point out very quickly from the science perspective quick for your audience Ashton is that um we have to realize as well from the theory side just the theory with no numbers or anything when we look at the pointing Vector is it possible maybe that the potential for the pointing Vector is maybe infinite because when you see some of these textbooks that talk about you know for example certain things like uh you know the magnitude of a potential for example both not the electric and the magnetic field and matter but what gives rise to those and you know yeah potentials itself this is the genius of Aron of bom yes again this is where relli is going great and Dr relli if you ever listen to this keep on going brother but be very careful because certain theoretical things could be put into practice by very nefarious agents yeah we have to watch out brother we have to watch out because there are a lot of people who want to take the easy path and the easy path is always toward destruction it is extremely hard to create it is very simple to destroy we when we talk when we talk about macroscopic Quantum coherence that's particles making love when they when the particles when the particles yes when when the when the particles when the particles fight like I said on your show Aston when the particles fight they create what we call explosions and that's the thing we don't want to do basically yeah yeah harmonious resonance harmonious resonance remember remember what Tesla was able to do in his freaking apartment using what an acoustic hydraulically this is a Pneumatic a pneumatic device right oscillator oh my goodness he had to basically break it down and this thing was about yay B remember he was pneumatic it was pneumatic it was air driven look up look up what I'm talking about hear did you hear my rant did you hear my rant on Ashton's thing with the pneumatic the back yeah yeah yeah brother if you know what you're doing you can do Marvels put it this way a pencil can kill you if you know where to put it yeah if you know what I mean okay y I'll just leave it that but I would say if if Jeremy's out there we've been uh talking about trying to do experiments sounds like uh you know theoretically get done but we should be very careful if we do that and very careful what we well I wanted to actually ask S and this is also for everybody watching live too I I would love your opinion Brother s on the how do we and I'm not saying I have the answer too it's very hard how do we make how do we make scientific progress and publish in papers so others can see without you the you know what I'm saying like this is the problem I that's the this between you and I yeah and I advances of this nature that's why I keep everything I do theoretical you will never you think I don't have experimental knoow who do you think put together the high energy electromagnetic fi generator they ran and and trust me that team that team that team and we talk about 15 people tops they're the they are so smart a lot of them just out of college there was one guy out I I will not name names but this guy is amazing and his put it this way his last name is the name of a great great great actor that I love so anyway this this I I'll call him kid because compared to me he was a kid very intelligent dude and every one of them was so interested but again all we could do is get a 10 to the minor s kulam because it's not about solid electrically charged system as you well know it's about other systems and other things so I'll just leave it there yeah but again again please do not try this in your garage because all you g to do if God forbid what happens if you Neighbor Next Door is not exactly how should I say does not have the love of the nation in mind but is an agent of a certain foreign entity then what what are you gonna do yeah again there's no need to Enlighten and educate the enemy we have far too many right far too many no need for that right I stuff Starbucks can teleport the coffees to me so I don't have to go pick it it has could you imagine what Amazon would do oh you know you know you just think about it it's on your front door you know as a matter of fact you think about it's in front of you anyway yeah all of the I that's why I brought up the the purse example for the ladies on Ashton's show because you know how often you know the both men and but especially women would love to go and say oh my gosh I forgot something at home and just reach in and they grab it through a portal or something that would be absolutely somebody was actually offended by that and then made a comment to you Dave and said that uh they said you need to trim your beard oh I saw that I left it up I didn't remove it that was funny after if it means anything your beard is absolutely great oh it's wonderful we we love it I I don't grow mine because even at my age believe you not I have such a fat face I got zets all over at my age can you imagine so that's what I mean 18y old and hot you know but you're what 45 oh 40 you you just want to be my best friend yes you do yes you do but anyway uh no no I'm all I'm all bro so a couple more questions for you guys and then we can just kind of shoot the breeze for a few minutes um one that has been asked by somebody who's been a top donator uh the last couple days that I feel like it's uh important and if you guys don't feel comfortable answering in detail it's fine but he wants to know is energy density achieved by amplifying plasma through a toroidal pattern containment field so that the free electrons resonate with the underlying temporal wave function can you guys speak to that at all dude okay let me go first and then you okay please again look at equation seven in the i e transaction on plasma science paper called plasma compression Fusion device equation 7 speaks directly to what this gentleman by the way very very arodi very intelligent man very highly educated in in the physics of things let me just leave it there R roazzi all you now could you sorry could you repeat the question Ashton I just want to make sure yeah yeah one more time um so where am I question there it is energy densities are they achieved by amplifying the plasma through a toroidal pattern containment field so that the free electrons resonate with the underlying temporal wave function hopefully I'm saying that correctly maybe I'm just gonna I I I I apologize it's complicated yeah I apologize it's Poss there might be something there there might not we I don't know it's just it's hard to say okay sounds good than when you're talking when you're talking drive driving any sort of plasma especially a cold one a non-thermal so we talking about the the uh a plasma whose's electrons do not obey a Max or bolman distribution whenever you drive anything of that nature part from equilibrium especially at certain frequencies dot dot dot what do you think will happen especially remember remember remember I asked everyone to read the 1973 it's a short it's a short Nobel lecture by Ilia prosi yes chemistry Nobel Prize non equilibrium thermodynamics 1973 called time comma structure fluctuations read it and read it very carefully because this man was a pure genius and people don't realize the the strength of engineering the preion effect especially dissip structures remember that gentlemen and ladies dissipative structures think a plasma is a plasma is a nonlinear medium especially one that obeys a certain nonm anyway I'll leave it there I would say perhaps to your to your your um your lovely gentleman there Ashton that asked the question perhaps look into uh and what I'm the two papers I'm going to mention here um please read the original copies not what someone wrote about them you have to look at Le always go to the source do not yes I agree with you% lean Yang uh the the the the paper that won them the Nobel Prize in 1957 um as well as a paper very difficult to find by ET Whitaker from 1903 um I would say yes there's two of them yes yeah yeah yeah yeah I know exactly what you're talking yeah yeah yeah that that interestingly isn't it weird how how people hardly even know of the their existence is it weird anyway yeah and again again Homo sapiens sapien are extremely creative just give us a chance it doesn't happen right right ready for the next question yeah sure this is one that I think that just from a investigative standpoint people want to know is could people survive this event that we've seen in these videos you know if you are inside this airplane are those people going to be able to survive this is there a potential where you can have a field around the object that can protect them and I'm now thinking about salvator P's patent for Trans medium craft and inertial sorry a is the question if they were in that plane or in any in this particular plane here or I mean I guess if we want to speak more hypothetically we can you guys can address the question any way you want I think that and I want to go ahead at this point as well extend my condolences to the families the reason why I do this investigation is because I want to get the real answers for these families that they haven't been given whether that whatever that answer is I don't know right um a great loss a great loss and my opinion is too that even upon getting to this point I think that the chance of survival is pretty low in general just because of the circumstances that we've uncovered from the investigation but people still want to know you know can you survive this now what I'll preface as well as saying is that I read a few Wormhole papers before or I even met you guys that said that we don't need exotic matter to create a wormhole that wormholes are humanly traversible in the sense that the gravitational forces would not kill someone and that the third one was that you could create a double-sided electromagnetic shell that could allow for an object to safely transport through one without being ripped to shreds so would you guys agree I guess with that concept and those theories uh yeah look at the latest papers on um written by Mala on the subject also sukin and also uh a certain uh Professor Lisa Randall very interesting lady very very intelligent let just leave it at that yeah one thing I can say in general all right one thing I can say in general is that you can be from the inside of the craft I mean people talk about you know these craft having all these G strong G forces and all of that it's of my opinion that you don't experience any of that from the inside now with that said I say that carefully because it also depends on it might depend on the outline of the craft and that's why it's hard for me to say about the plane in particular I would not to put him on the spot but I would rather have Brother s maybe see if hypothetically s would would that be survivable in that plane or would you need more protective coding remember remember please remember remember that at the bottom of all this we talk about human life and we talk about families that have been greatly impacted by this if God forbid anybody that was related to would have been on that plane would not even be able to stomach listening to this podcast I will tell you the truth no matter how interesting the physics may be because it's a human condition man yeah these These are emotions we you know so I cannot comment I Fair my thoughts are my own just remember one thing exactly what brother Ashton said God is love God is love that's what may St Augustine so incredibly awesome I love St a not just because he said what he said about time but remember God is love there's no need to come and for okay that's fine I think I agree with that um now let's go into something that's a little bit more uh less controversial which is around the technology in terms of getting it out there I think that this is the big question the discussion that needs to be had which is how do we get this out there what type of treaty or International agreement do you guys think would be necessary in order to safely deploy this type of technology for just say the energy purposes um prot let me take this sorry to interrupt okay let me take this you remember I think in your first interview I brought up the idea of uh weaponization of the physicist how you bring them over in a special room whereon let's call it let's not use the ew very strong let's call it adversary potential friend of you just sit him down you show him certain things okay his physicist looks it over your physicist talks over goes on blah blah eventually again the physicist their physicist turns to the commander the commander salutes goes outside the political representative comes in and all of a sudden we have peace on Earth this is what I'm talking about an era an Epoch of deterrence is feasible by by basically bringing the adversary in on these things and actually saying look we either destroy each other or together we build a better world because I will tell you that I am 100% sure and I do not need the anybody of out there I don't need the well I will not name names but I don't need them for them to to let me know that possible the Earth has enemies out there in Intergalactic space because I'll tell you right of the bat this so-call Third Rock From the Sun it is such a beautiful place natural resources we have so many things you think the apple of the eye has not put it this way sensed a certain eye of saaron all of a sudden turning toward us to say whoa I want that so that's what I'm saying only by coming together will we be able to stop what I think is if not on the way already here in some shape or form or God forbid yeah I don't want to make it too Bleak so I'll just leave it there to answer the the from my perspective um sort of adding to what Sal was saying is I'm reminded of the scene in Oppenheimer the the recent film where uh Heimer goes to Einstein and there was at one I'm not spoiling this for anyone's just heads up there was at one point a calculation made by Edward Teller which indicated that perhaps when they set off the bomb even during the atomic bomb during testing they would cause a chain reaction that would ignite the atmosphere so what Oppenheimer did was he saw teller's equations and he said holy this may happen so what he did was he goes I'm going to speak to the one person in the in this field of physics I disagree with the most which is Einstein to get the which is the best thing if for example if s and I disagreed I actually want to work with Sal Moore because we disagree but anyways he then Oppenheimer goes to Einstein and says what do we do like what what do we do about this Einstein says if this is true the Chain Reaction he goes you stop now and you show the Nazis and you so both of you don't destroy the world basically now yeah yeah yeah yeah that I don't either come together or we shall definitely perish apart yeah and I didn't expect and I will tell you right off the bat I have a feeling I have a feeling that Earth has far more dangerous enemies than we have on it yeah right that's my opinion just an instinct a little birdie in my head and I don't mean to be so conspiratorial but what if maybe some of these adversaries have are right in front of us and we don't know it it's God forbid brother yeah God and that's fun I did not expect you guys to have those opinions although I mean I didn't know exactly what your opinions would be my opin why they say ignorance is bliss if I if I sometimes better be stupid I'll tell you the truth this here's honestly that Ashton I say this to you in your audience and I don't I'm certain I don't need s doesn't need to hear this because he knows better than me from where I stand from where I you and I equal footing remember I really mean what I say you and I have the same pedigree that's why I call you Dr Rossy I I believe an academic standpoint I have that ability now whether it's true or not I I leave it to my betters but I think of you as doctoral level I think you would have survived a certain PhD qualifying event that makes people cry makes grown people cry I qualif everybody should go through it one time in your lifetime to see what how should I say it puts you in your place yes right very well one of the things Ashton is I wanted to say and and forgive me to the audience if this sounds like a bleak sort of um answer but one of the reasons I think brother s and I are speaking publicly like this is because we're so frustrated with what we're seeing behind the scenes and I I say that carefully but um this is where it's it's a tough thing I I I'm of the view humbly I don't think any of this stuff for now is going to come out and everything's going to be happy and everyone's going to be fine I wish but I that's just have you have you seen something recent from um someone that I hold in great respect because I know his Origins uh Senator chak Schuman CH yes um they plan if you look at that Amendment yeah for the next 25 years am I wrong in in what I understand this will never see the light of day this this kind of physics will never ever see the light of day and trust me if a certain event in the past that I will not name but everybody and this stream will know exactly what I'm talking about if that particular event can basically go from epac to epac to epac never having been Declassified right you think this this sort of physics will just no need to answer that question maybe not not to put you on the spot but maybe one day s we should do a paper together on the Super Force a different different ver a different I'm trying to work with some uh now with Dr brandenberg him and I are are trying to come up with something on engineering the Super Force he he he knows a lot more people again he he's of the physics pedigree he's a plasma physicist he's done a lot more in the past and remember what he said about Mars remember Xenon 129 yes yeah if if just half of what he's come up with is correct y talking about that not only are we a civilization with amnesia a certain person says but thank God we are a civilization with Aman perhaps we came from Mars and we destroyed Mars and now that's where we're at now that's a theory that I've wondered about a lot I know that's what you're referring to Xenon right is the nuclear why did this is a sort of Prison Planet Prison Planet hypothesis definitely in an interesting one I think this is why I like talking to you guys because you're extremely smart and you come to a lot of same conclusions that sometimes I wish I was dumb as yes lot the same stuff that I think about last I would be a lot happier if I could address a couple of the comments you guys made as well and you guys can keep going is think that one thing is that I try to imagine if people are in there doing these Advanced experiments maybe you guys are some of these as well I mean just imagine the mindset of somebody who goes and SE I just say I'm so sorry I have to say this because you Ashton you created a beautiful environment for me to say this is not to anyone in particular do you know what it's like to be in a lab working on something dare I say magical and then you leave that lab and then you got to go on a in a car or in a plane run by oil and you see everyone it's I think I can relate to it I've been going under through that ontological shock myself just looking at this as somebody who was just a normal person four months ago right and then I I had this happened to me while I was sitting at the airport and I'm just looking at everybody staring at their phones realizing that the world can be a completely different place everybody just absorbed in their own little reality and you know this is where I thought of you Dave and and uh S as well where it's like we've got people out there that are looking at the technology that can change the world and then they've got to go back to their normal life In Reverse this is part of the reason why I don't think I can go back to a normal life after this either it's just it's so much to take in right and so much to think about what are the implications Brothers let me have your take on this I'm gonna put something out there's something that's being said a lot day to day that that bothers me somewhat see if you if you resonate with what I have to say they keep on saying that data is the new oil I believe back in the 18th century or rather 19th century at at the CP off at the transition thereof they used to say that oil or rather yes oil is the new call do you see the transference because I see Alternative Energy being the new oil not data you see what I mean it's as if on purpose we're being derailed yes yes anyway I I want if I could say as well one of the things I find so interesting is when you look at that it's almost we're seeing for example I'm in uh I'm in Canada right now and in Canada they they're trying there's a business model some companies are trying where for example you buy the car but you rent the battery like a Netflix subscription and you can never own the battery and this this is interesting because this can go very good also very bad in my opinion U it's very yeah it's it's hard it's hard the idea that you're everything is like a Netflix subscription for me personally I I I don't know especially when you look at and I brought this up before but it makes one Wonder before World War I we see these images the ones that haven't been edited World War II and even before of these pneumatic forms of transportation and it makes you think where the hell is that today like it it it really makes you think and I say that carefully but people were sending messages and you know they you could see these old paintings and even schematics of they put their cat in a tube and this is just compressed air for transportation so it it makes you think and even that's not even talking about potential anti-gravity and all these other beautiful things just compressed air like yeah you could do a lot for example sound as you know something something that you said in your podcast with with with Ashton immediate at this point at that point in time when you said what what if the phone on is a spin to part it spoke I mean acoustic levitation again you are of a certain mindset sir I'm not kidding if I wore a hat I would take it off you and that's why I call you Dr Rossy I don't say that to be funny I I want to thank you I want to thank you so much pedigree a person's Origins mean nothing if what they have achieved it's what they have achieved the level of intelligence the level of intellect they have been able to achieve that should matter it's something that I hear Ashton say a lot that it's it's not who you are it's what you have to say that matters I would take someone if I'm hiring employees I would take someone with heart over someone with 10 degrees that's just that's just me but so so yeah well S one thing I want to say quickly first off thank you a million times over but for me it was very simple I I went on Google and I look and I go what is a a a phone on what spin is it and it says Google says it's a spin zero and that made no sense to me at all I said what the hell is this and you know how how how how can a vibration of a crystal Attis you know do you know who could settle all this and I I'm pretty sure in some lab somewhere maybe just Theory somewhere Professor Wich is doing some unbelievable work Professor Wich if you ever listen to this you ever hear of this if someone says you got to look at this whatever you're doing I wish I was involved with and Dr Rosy here was involved with and Ashton was involved with because we really belong in that world brother we really do yeah come couple more comments I want to make I think we can uh start to wind it down but I know we will definitely talk again and we can you guys are welcome back on hard TRS anytime you want I do want to say a couple other things too just my own opinions on a couple things which is I don't think the government will ever give us disclosure like you guys mentioned with Chuck Schumer and the amendment going through there you know the time frame for this stuff happening it's never going to happen I think they may think that National Security um it's got to be forced by our hand and the other thing I want to say is if I was President I would be seeking peace with every country even our enemies because when I look at this technology as you guys mentioned I think the ultimate answer for how we get this information out there is we have to have peace amongst human race entirely because otherwise we there's no need for anyone to go hungry yeah there's no need for to be hungry there's no one no need for anyone to be homeless there's no reason why we should have wars and be fighting amongst one another which are just for money like this we should end this and we should be looking globally I want to just read part of JFK's Moon speech just a few lines from it for everybody right now and he says but why some say the moon why choose this as our goal and they may well ask why climb the highest mountain why 30 5 years ago fly the to the Atlantic we choose to go to the Moon we choose to go to the Moon we choose to go to the moon in this decade and the other and the other things because not because they are easy but because they are hard because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills because that challenge is one we are willing to accept one we are unwilling to postpone and therefore as we ask go we as we set sail we ask God's blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and Greatest Adventure Venture that man has ever gone I think about that almost every day with respect to this technology and why I think he was a Visionary at his time and saw what the world would look like a hundred years from then if he was allowed to do what he wanted to do I think everything would be different in my opinion that's my that's my opinion he was gonna do yeah yeah I completely it's sort of like the the quote from equalizer number two when the young kid asks Denzel Washington why me why me and Denzel he goes why not you exactly and that's my that's the way I see it why not if I ever if I was ever asked would you like to live in a par reality do you know which one I would choose one in which JFK is still alive too and that goes to one point that people had in the chat which is about time travel in general and I think that you can't break causality but if we're talking about String Theory which is what salvator Pas is talking about just now is that there may be alternate real not through the timelines right so we can't really rule anything out especially when we're dealing with what appears to be essentially to be looked into again please someone out there the great minds we're talking about Whitten we're talking about a Stringer we're talking about gross we talk about will Che we're talk about green we're talk about kak why not okay fine God equation fine have it your way if that's what it takes fine please look into this Super Force thing look into it and see whether you can adapt to your ideas because I think this may crack it we may actually be at the cusp of a third revolution in strings and strings may actually be the final ultimate Theory and I'm sorry Dr Weinstein I I know what you think of strings but let's give strings another another goal it might just be in weinberg's in weinberg's own words dreams of a final the if I could say quickly Ashton with regards to the causality comment I um I would be I would revisit that in terms of the notion of uh you know reordering causality via entropy and to give a practical example very quickly there remember that case many months ago maybe you guys heard about it or not where um it was some family claimed there were aliens in the backyard and they heard all these footsteps and in Las Vegas I think it was what if it's what if I'm not saying this is what happened but what what if when they claimed they heard footsteps but it sounded like thousands of footsteps what if that was just the footsteps of two beings let's say but the PE the family was experiencing those events all at once and so they heard all of the footsteps that otherwise would have been linear you know step forward step forward step forward but they heard all of it at once in one sort of causal notion it makes you think about maybe you can reorder the arrangement of things for example I I think my my and this is crazy ass speculation this is beyond speculation so please guys if the great ones will ever which I doubt but if they do you never know some sometimes we'll someday Stringer grows with we'll check again we'll listen to this podcast what if what if our understanding of reality is completely how should I say infantile what if our senses are not truly walking up to the possibilities of true existence what for example there's one incident that that there's one thing that that in my mind have you ever heard of the Jin d j i n n yes in Islam they're thought of as quasi the but not quite they were the first they were the first brought forth um by by God they were the first Creator before us before humans the Gin supposedly were creatures of smoke and Fire doesn't that sound like plasma to you any I'll just leave it there the things there things we must be open to yes but understand as Supernatural right I would love to you said it perfectly I I just want to give one more point to what s said and also to the whole concept of causality Ashton so we view I just drew on a paper here we view time as you know linear so if we wake up we have breakfast you know we go to work now what if we took those same processes but in a circular sense you you went to work before you had breakfast you see what I'm saying and then so it makes yeah did you see geometric Unity by Dr Eric Weinstein yes yes yes the idea of multiple temporal Dimensions temporal Dimension yes yes yeah yeah what wouldn't it be a beautiful thing if all this could I don't want to give up on strings I think somebody should should look into seeing how Super Force can bring us out of this love would you say sell the Super Force would you say the Super Force is a semi classical unification of string this is why yes yeah why would the plan Force why would the pl Force why would the planks Force something that does not have H bar in it reside in the theory of of the great Albert Einstein we talking about the gravitation the g g equals right one divided by Super Force times Tabu right take it on the other side as a linear operator why is it saying why is it saying that it is possible it is possible that the super force acting on a spatial temporal geometric local structure give rise to energy density hence matter could we 3D print Under certain condition stop ban you understand what I'm talking about materialization dematerialization oh my goodness maybe the hick field but anyway yeah just leave through polarization operators and yeah yeah yeah so yeah I want to say on the time thing as well I just I put in the chat the egg which is uh I think Andy Weir is the one who made this video and that video I think describes time in the same way that uh Dave Rossy just did just now brother Dave did which is a beautiful concept that we only experience it as linear because that's how our minds process time moving forward but there's no reason why someone looking from the outside From Another Dimension couldn't see it uh flowing in other directions or completely sto entirely um so I think that if people want to understand it better watch that video I put in the chat I think it really explains it pretty well speaks to it speaks to the one electron universe theory and the whole notion of Fineman and Wheeler talking about how a positron is really an electron going but yeah that's that's and then that brings me to the film tenet by Christopher Nolan how we may be moving forward but we see the environment is backwards but from the environment they're going forward we're back yeah yeah so um guys I think we're going to uh you know slow this one down here now and it to an end but I want to give you guys each an opportunity to plug anything you want to plug we'll start with salvator Pas brother Pas here anything that you want to plug for uh the chat and for the the people watching I just want to say uh please guys uh look very carefully what Ashton has to say about the incident I think this may be the closest thing we've ever had to disclosure we should definitely we should not go the way of naysayers I will not name names but you know who I'm talking about a certain gang of hyenas but let's just leave it at that and and uh uh just just um how should I say there's far more important stuff to to to Natural phenomena than derision let's give it a chance let's let's look at it all of a sudden in a serious modality could this be it okay so this number one don't forget demystify sigh podcast would NASA and Shiloh great guys s doctors Dr RI doctors both NASA and don't forget alien scientists don't forget Jeremy RIS don't forget uh Jay Anderson okay Jay Anderson Project Unity don't forget Theory of Everything with KJ mongle he's doing something incredible oh my goodness I wish I was on it again too but I think uh I think brother brother J mongle forgot about me anyway it is what it is but but the the whole idea is this look into these things and don't dismiss them yeah don't dismiss them yeah think of how how could this be possible if it is possible why why was it done because that speaks to the great heroism of this certain Lieutenant Commander that I will not name which is another you know right up there with Alexander grou cold heart the the whole deal put off the all these are heroes Davis yes I can't believe I'm saying it why not and you you know come to think of it even Safar in his own crazy Wolfman way and Jack please come on man if anything let's share the Super Force but I'm sharing with Dr Brandon right now you got to talk to him if he shares fine but anyway so in other words their ways to get past this this this this individualistic U uh man man doggy there's no need for that together we shall overcome unification not polarization this is the only thing that will save our Godly Nation otherwise gentlemen it's over it is over the enemy has Us in the crosshairs and I am afraid that unlike a certain Commodore Perry who said those Immortal words we have met the enemy and he is ours yeah this may not be so this time around that's all thank you very much Ashton for this tremendous opportunity thank you well if I could if well thank thank you that was beautiful S one thing I can say um to the audience maybe on a little bit more of a technical side is for those interested look into um the possibility that electricity and magnetism may be two different expressions of the same force and if we sort of view that sort of in a philosophical transitioning into a physical sense we may be able to see that some like the accessing the Super Force oh god oh my god oh Dr Rossi sorry to interrupt beautiful I just gotta say again senility somebody should look at the the one thing in Max Maxwell's equations that's already got me all you know anyway up in the twist it's that grab. b equals zero the whole idea that there no such thing as magnetic monopol but remember what the Rock said yeah yeah yeah what if that gr. b does not equal zero what if it's a different zero what what if it's a different zero than the one we're used to being taught after all the great canor said there are many sets of Infinities why not certain zeros that are not exactly zero just leave it there but yeah very interesting okay I'm sorry I'm done sorry Ashton okay fine I would like to leave your audience with one thought which is and this may sound out there to some some people but what if this goes all the way back to Pythagoras's theorem in terms of understanding this what if there was an understanding that pythagore had that when we see for I'm speaking to quadriple unification cell and that geometrically what if for example we think just basically looking at things in a different way I'm not saying they are but what if for example um you know those graft generators when you touch the capacitor and your hair goes up what if what we call lightning strikes are large versions of when you pulse a vandergraph generator as we see with we have if we start to think of things like this perhaps as you know people see uh you get a volt meter and you put it into the ground and there suddenly you get current and all that what if what if we start to view things as so in our face that it may work that maybe something does and that's I what what I would like to leave everybody with awesome yeah and again Dave Rossi is the generation Zed podcast so make sure you guys check that out make sure you follow him on Twitter as well Salvador Pas avoids social media so you have to just get in touch with Tim vura Tim vur yeah Tim's great yeah oh my God he's had come on man Lord Martin Reese oh my God if I was in the same room with him I think I'd lose it I'd talk all kind of speculation answer he start laughing and say goodness where did you get your degree from that oh one if I could say one more thing for those interested because I I would love to do sometime a space either with Ashton or or whoever but at podcast Zed no spaces no capital zed spelled Zed um on Twitter for anyone that's interested and uh also phas helix.com is the name of my company if anyone's interested um Consulting to anything in that regard with regards to the physics in certain areas and that's about it I want to thank you so much Ashton for doing this brother yeah no highly recommend both these guys if you guys are trying to get any opinions any uh you know contract work reach out to these guys 100% this is Ashton for orbs here of the hard I I work for the government only only Rossi yeah don't don't go the only way you reach out to me is through a certain gentleman in public affairs office at a certain office that works for the Navy thank you right so yeah just to close it out then Yep this is Ashen for orbs and this is the hard truth podcast where we bring you the hard truth the things that people have a hard time understanding to be real and thank you everybody here very much everyone in the chat for your time appreciate it and uh yeah have a great day guys recording stopped