Advanced Technology Suppression with Jake Chansley 2/14/24

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# Advanced Technology Suppression with Jake Chansley 2/14/24 a song as much as it's like it's kind of a weird shock to the cognitive system it's only it's only about two minutes or so that I'm going to play here so um I think many of you may have already heard this but you know just for the for the sake of being fun I'm G to going to play this really quick while we wait for the room to fill [Applause] up hey chat welcome everybody to the stream here we are going to be doing the space with Jake Chanley tonight we're going to talking about advanced technology suppression Etc should be a fun talk so welcome everybody let's see if we can get this working how do I make this did that not work I think should be say coost right I don't know what he's talking about here um way to change [Applause] this that's oh that actually is [Applause] better [Applause] hey what's up everybody always an interesting little song if you want to call it a song what's going on Ashton how you doing I can't get my voice to work one sec let me rejoin uh you got to take yourself off off mute there brother yeah something's wrong hold on all right well um hopefully let me see if I can get that fixed my thing is messed up got try to get this fixed here oh God what is this um hold on [Laughter] all right well um thank you all for your time and attention time and attention is universe and I appreciate you spending it in investing her with myself and with Ashton Ashton um oh there you are hey how's it going bro I can't get my thing done maybe not let's try that again I don't know what's going on here hi Jenny my requests aren't working all right can you take yourself off a mute now there Ash hello can I can't it's broken how about you Jenny can you take yourself off oh can you guys hear me now I man weird okay yeah I'm here I'm not ignoring you I'm just uh my like my application I'm using here is like all messed up but yeah no Hey Jake how's it going man hey Jenny how are you guys doing doing well thanks for having uh thanks for having us do this man this is always a really interesting conversation really interesting topic you you have been going down the rabbit hole on a lot of this stuff for a while um what have you found anything really interesting um yeah yeah I've found a lot it's been quite the rabbit hole for me in general so um you know first thanks for everybody for being in here right now you know I asked Jake if we could do another space cuz we had one a while back where we dug into uh like just the history of kind of technology and ufology in general and this felt like it would be a good followup in terms of what type of technology is out there and available um how is it being kept hidden from us and the reason why I like Jake to help with this is that he's so well versed in the history of everything that's been happening in ufology the uh and even ancient cultures in terms of how they might have been familiar with uh technology uh some of these technologies that we would consider to be very Advanced and specifically I'm talking about the idea of like a unification theory of quantum field mechanics um and general relativity the very large things and the very small things so what I'll say is that in my journey here I uh this sounds a little bit cliche but I've had a bit of an Awakening myself in terms of um as some people know I've been investigating the MH370 case and as the course of that I've talked to a lot of Engineers and scientists who are relatively connected um very smart people and I've come to realize that there actually is technology that's out there in the uh covert space if you want to call it the military-industrial complex that is classified um that is consistent with a video that I posted yesterday that Jeremy Corbell was on some TV or uh some news station in I think Arizona and he was saying how the types of technology that we're talking about about be classified above nuclear weapons like that's how serious the situation is and that's what I've independently come to conclude and confirm is that this is the type of stuff where the reason why it's not getting out there is because it's a so dangerous but so life-altering for every aspect of our civilization and that's what I was hoping that Jake and I and a panel of people who want to ask questions and and Jenny can talk about a little bit because I think there's a pretty important discussion to have around it inms terms of what does this type of technology mean how can it change our uh civilization and then what do we do to get the information out there safely and can we right I mean these are very profound questions and I think we were also hoping to talk a little bit about we had some current events happen today and uh we had this Russian or like they're calling it this Russian space situation where there's some major threat potentially and that uh it was reported on at least right now that's related to Russia and related to to outer space but we'll dig into that more later I think that's something that will be interesting to talk about with everyone as well so thanks Jake do you have any thoughts before begin oh no dude I think you covered it quite well and yeah this whole scop of the Russian this and that and National Security and oh my gosh these people in their their freaking Playbook is getting so old they just keep running the same old plays over and over and over again it's like what you you think that we're not going to figure it out like come on man this is this is the same [ __ ] you've been feeding us for decades and all that's ever happened as we've continued to trust you is we lose more freedoms and there's the whole whole other new crisis that we have to freak out about right around the corner so why why are we trusting these people why are we trusting proven Liars again what do you think about the nuclear threat remember the stories about um extraterrestrial shutting down like is it malstrom and Montana or you know so if the Russians are thinking of deploying some sort of a nuclear weapon in you know supposed space and I know I've had lots of arguments with whether or not space exists but I'm not going to have that argument today hopefully um but um you know what what do you think about that do you believe that that happened and do you think that that would happen again should we just start in with the the the current news I think that might be a good place to start actually it's kind of fun sure well I'll say I'll say right now Ash if you don't mind to answer her question most if not all governments on the planet have come to conclude that an allout nuclear arms exchange would be bad for everybody however it is a great way to scare the ever loving [ __ ] out of everybody and keep them in fear over oh my God it all could end in a big bright flash and everybody screwed so like they tried this months and months ago they tried it while I was in prison they were all over the TV World War III nuclear exchange Putin is going to launch nukes blah blah blah blah blah give me a break the it's it's so old and it's all about keeping people in fear and so if covid 1984 isn't working to keep people in fear if you know monkey pox isn't working if the idea of uh the war in Ukraine is becoming very unpopular or the war in Israel is becoming very unpopular they need to ramp it up in order to gain some sort of like oh we're all on the same page kind of thing what do you think Ash first of all they really need to Rebrand monkey pox you know you just can't take something you call Monkey pox seriously enough I think they tried but it was just it was too absurd man um but no I I agree with you and actually this is feeds directly into what I wanted to say about it I think that the narrative that I'm hearing right now uh and this may be like really Fresh So if I'm a little bit off let me know is that supposedly Russia is trying to put nukes in the outer space to shoot down satellites now what I want to say here is we got that's [ __ ] [ __ ] we got to learn to think critically here guys like I know that everybody just goes I I feel like I'm a little bit afraid I'm going to have another jetpack situation here where people are breathing down my throats about how there's people flying around in jetpacks at 3,000 ft um there's no reason to use a nuke to shoot down a satellite it's completely absurd uh you would just use some other type of like electromagnetic weapon to destroy the satellites you don't need to shoot a nuke at in with your plane why don't you just put that up there and disappear it yeah I mean there's a lot of other ways to do it and I'm not even sure like do uh weapons of mass destruction even work that way in outer space I'm not 100% sure maybe someone can dig into that for me as well as I feel like if we did shoot down a satellite in our space now first of all keep in mind the geostationary satellites are 40,000 kmet away so they're very very far away um in fact there's an asteroid in 2029 that's going to come closer than the geostationary satellites are to us Aus you can look it up um and then the low earth orbit ones are only 1100 km away so very very low 40 times lower if you were to shoot a nuke at a lower orbit satellite I feel like the Fallout would be very very dangerous to the planet um and then to your point yes I think that nukes have always been used as this threat even going back to the Cuban Missile Crisis right that they want us afraid that there's going to be this thing that's going to be happening that's going to um you know just wipe us out in an instant and that really distracts Us in my opinion from uh what our really what our topic here is is the advanced technology because if they are taking out satellites they're using something way more sophisticated than just shoot a nuke at it a big boom go big and blow up all the satellites so that's kind of my opinion regarding it I think that it's a good lesson in terms of us thinking critically about the information that we're being fed and putting it through a lens of Common Sense out there um now I do think really quick just one s I have to say this and what you're saying about launching one of these nukes into space to hit a satellite that would end up affecting a bunch of satellites within the vicinity because of the EMP so this notion of shooting down a satellite with a nuclear weapon is ludicrous but it just goes to show how easily the public is baited into [ __ ] and that's all I want to say no 100% man and that that's it too right it's like what's the thing that we can come up and when they start saying that it's like I often think to the uh Joe Rogan line where he was mentioned on one of these podcasts maybe it was David grush where he's like the moment they tell me that aliens are real now I'm going to stop thinking that they're real right it's like okay and in this case I don't like to say everything's a distraction from something else but when there is likely something right that is this story didn't come out of nowhere but then the question is what are they how are they framing it right so what's the real underlying truth that's going on here you know maybe it is about Russia but I highly highly doubt it's about them putting nukes in outer space and and taking out other satellites right so what is the information that they are protecting and that's kind of what the topic of today's conversation is right is that I know without any doubt that there is advanced technology that's being kept hidden from us can I prove it right now no but that's okay we can still talk about it you know and then the question is how are they hiding it right and they hide it the same way as they hide this is let's just say that there is some kind of advanced technology let's say that Russia has figured out uh finally they've caught up in the last 10 years and now they've got their own orbs that can disappear planes and stuff like that right that would be a major threat and I'm just speaking speculatively right but let's just say they've got some advanced technology it's even uh more dangerous than when Putin's talking about Hypersonic missiles right if they have that they don't want the public to know about that because if it gets revealed that Putin has something that's more powerful than that then the public immediately going to think well what do we have right I didn't know we had something that's that crazy right and we probably have something that's more than Russia so instead they put out this Narrative of oh well it's space nukes that we're shooting right and that gets us distracted from the real topic which is advanced technology that we don't know about you know one of the fellows you were on a podcast with recently brought up um perhaps some sort of a like a sentient entity which is in plasma and the activities of plasma I found that kind of interesting that fell towards one of the end of the podcast he brought up that question so there is you know we're delving into a whole new type of science that we know we've had access to I mean Jake's brought up the patents that that you know Trump I know that these are patents that may seem like that they're individual but once you start to put all the technology together from all the places that it's been buried you know then you begin to see another clear picture of what's possible yeah and so I posted a video too which is that was a weird thing because this uh plasma idea that plasma can be sentient I had kind of shrug that off back in I want to say it was early November I was talking to Salvatore Pas who is the one who's got these patents for these uh what you would call UFO technology but it's really just like anti-gravity technology and trans medium craft technology and he had actually said something about that and he quoted or um uh name dropped Joseph P frell and then all of a sudden now in early 2024 you had people there was a paper that came out about it is Plas could plasma be sentient and that's why I posted that video I think it was early today or last night where I was just like huh maybe I I've got to open my mind a little bit up to that but in my mind I'm trying to keep it very grounded you know um in terms of I want to really just dig into the tech I try to avoid a lot of like sacred geometry type stuff as well even though I I think it absolutely could be correct I think that there are basic geometric shapes that are what enable this type of Technology specifically toroids but in the end of the day it doesn't matter if everything's connected just matters how you can prove that it works right so this kind of leads in the first question I want to ask Jake and Jenny which I think is probably the most basic important question is what is disclosure Ure to you guys right to you guys is it finding out that there's other life out there is it finding out that we can fly amongst the stars is it finding out that there's technology can change the world is it something more profound go ahead well I'll start by saying that first of all disclosure [Music] is the government the lesson one percenters the military-industrial complex the corporations all of these people essentially the Deep State admitting that they have been lying to the people for decades that is Step number one the military industrial complex is ever since like World War II they have been advancing anywhere from seven to 10 years ahead of the general public per year seven to 10 years ahead of the general public in advancements of Technology per year since World War II and it's been quite a long time since World War II right or the end of World War II what little over 70 years or something something like that at this point going on 70 years more like um so or yeah anyway case in point the technology that we have in the deep underground military bases the it is literally hundreds and hundreds of years ahead there is a breakaway civilization underneath our feet in these dumps so admitting to the American people and to the people of the world all of humanity that they've been lied to for decades explaining what those lies were and what they were trying to cover up um admission of guilt for lying and deceiving the the people is the first and most important thing otherwise there's going to be a a lot of confusion even in especially when we start trying to disseminate the truth because if lies were used to cover the truth up then they lies have to be admitted to be lies first and foremost then you can start disclosing the truth otherwise there's going to be people that are like well no this is the narrative over here no this is what we were told no this is what we were told Etc so total transparency the JFK assassination MK Ultra project Monarch cloning geoengineering stratospheric aerosol injections 911 the Vegas shooting the list goes on and on and on right these are the things that must be released to the public in full before any sort of other things are released to the public we have to they have to first admit their lies then we have to kind of do a dual disclosure thing where we bring people slow slly but surely prog like one step after another and disseminate spiritual understanding and technological understanding and how it is that the spiritual understanding and the technological understanding end up merging into the same field of understanding and then we can get into like the technology we had in the early 1900s like Nicola Teslas Tesla Towers Dr R's machine and cures for disease Zero Point Energy engines the tr3b and then slowly but surely trickle it out as people begin to understand how that technology works then they will be able to understand step by step how more advanced technology works and how these things end up coinciding with communicating with Angelic or demonic or interdimensional entities higher levels of consciousness and all that stuff this is why the spiritual stuff and the spirit and the technological stuff have to be disseminated to the public in Tandem and in stepbystep format how do you justify that with with National Security and defense knowing that our nation is one of the most advanced supposedly then our assumptions that that type of a release would be safe we still have countries that would happily behead us you know in Gross Maneuvers so I think that sometimes there's a very weird aspect we have to look at as there are countries and there are people who are still you know money hungry and greed including us right but that will nefarious so how do we release and give transparency knowing we have active people that want bad things to occur yeah and Jenny you just got to one of my later questions that I wanted to get to because I mean that's a whole topic right is how do you disclose this safely so as much I want to talk about that but uh I want to kind of first uh do a follow up of what Jake was saying and then ask your opinion as well Jenny um because I think that the one thing that the reason why I like co-hosting with Jake is that Jake has this deep spiritual ual understanding as well and one thing I've realized about the technology is it does get to a point where the lines start to blur between technology and spirituality and what these kinds of things can mean especially when we talk about stuff like could plasma be alive right or so one thing I wanted to ask Jake is do you think disclosure to you has a spiritual component then I mean I think you kind of alluded to it but in terms of like you know there being a soul or how that how that impacts our uh lived experiences and what might happen to us you know after we die and then I'd also like to hear Jenny's opinion about what disclosure means to her as well yes in short yes there the two are essentially probing at the same invisible phenomena or the same interdimensional realm of being so we talked in one of our previous phases you and I that we did together about this idea of the human being basically being plugged into or like a part of the very fabric of the universe itself and how it is that we can go Quantum to Cosmic as far as like astral projection is concerned because we are tightly knit into this Quantum entangled hole and then we said but what they're trying to do with these craft essentially is mimic those same conditions that allow the craft to go Quantum or Cosmic based on a certain field surround rounding the craft and enabling it to Traverse the dimensions both macro and micro right so if we if we understand that that is essentially the name of the game that creating vehicles that do what it is that the human Spirit or electromagnetic field are capable of doing basically creating a craft that is able to blend into the very fabric of SpaceTime itself the way that the human body does then we're beginning to understand how and why it is that this technology does have a spirital element to it that the bioplasmic field of what what what they call the bioplasmic field or the Consciousness field the electromagnetic field of the human body is Transcendental it is hyperdimensional and that is essentially what they're trying to use these craft to do is to to bring reach into those other dimensions using metal and using electricity and volumes of energy that will allow it to transcend physicality and merge into these other dimensions that are essentially spiritual in nature good answer Jenny so what is your thoughts on what what does disclosure mean to you personally you mean from our US Government just in any way you want to answer it right terms of yeah if you look at terms of like the ufology sphere right they keep talking about disclosure coming disclosure coming and I think I want to try to like Define it for people because I think it's also first of all different for everybody as well you know Jake basically said for him it's about the lies and then it builds up from getting the lies out there uh and disclosing those and then it comes to the element of where it kind of reaches all the way up to a spiritual element which is somewhat consistent with this idea that I put forth of like starting with this foundation and working your way up and you get to the top level which is this spiritual aspect of what all this type of Technology can mean what does it mean to use I I followed Greer for a long time now and I've been part of the C5 I've joined groups I've had the app I've watched the original movie disclosure which is when the buzzword kind of came around and at at one point in time we trusted the government to tell us what we needed to know and to keep secret what we didn't in order to provide a safe environment for us to fill out the American dream and raise our children in safety and educate within institutions that were um beneficial right to train our children for the next step in their lives and since then that's totally changed so disclosure to me is no longer um what it was before I'm not going to trust the institutions any longer um what we already know that's in the public sphere should be uh validated so the conspiracies supposed that that that are around people should know the truth about the ones that have already been disclosed and then I would imagine disclosure is If someone knows from either information that's gathered from the earth that we found and we've learned of Technologies in religion and spirituality in the innate human you know abilities that we have for you know remote travel the release of space and time in our mind to gain information from this stuff whatever we can do individually it's a very fine line and to be honest with you I'm not the person to do it it would be the leaders of the world and they the ones who would know who was our enemy and who wasn't I'm I I wouldn't be me to be honest so disclosure to me it's not really a personal thing because there's so much that we don't understand about the world and to assume that you should know it all is terrible because if you know it all so does everybody else and everybody else doesn't have the same intention awesome good answer Jenny yeah um from that perspective I think it may be difficult because we have to I think not think of the world in black and white right we have to start thinking about in terms of Shades of Gray and that's where gets really murky on some of this but this is why I like this conversation because we're building up towards what you were saying earlier which is how do we get this stuff out we first have to Define what it is that we're trying to do right I brought a couple people up on the speaker panel uh I think well if you raise your hand we'll call on you but if you can keep it somewhat short as well I think the plan here is to kind of get through some of the subject matter and then kind of open it up to broader audience but go ahead Derrick I see your hand up hey yeah uh it's good to see you up here Ashton I I remember uh a retweet of your video I did uh went viral I was happy to see that so um I wanted to just say Jake and ason what you guys are talking about when you were talking about um the truth and the LIE the truth and the LIE are always in the same line and I'll quickly explain how that happens NIS the National Institute of Standards and technology that did the 911 investigation their statement about explosives at Ground Zero was we found no evidence of explosives at Ground Zero um they didn't because they didn't look so the truth and the LIE are there at the same time um there were explosives and many independent investigations found that nanothermite so that's what I'm saying YouTube right now think about how that's been done to us on a large scale through the religious texts that's why they can independently and confidently say it's the truth luciferian agenda is always they have to tell you the truth but they can also lie to you because they really rely upon manipulating you that you believe the lie always instead so um they have plausible deniability hey it's not my fault they did it we told them the truth that's how everything works that's how you have to find going back to the spiritual component that's why you must find that spiritual aspect of you so you can see between the truth and the lie you can discern between those two things and Christ did a lot of those things just him saying you know think about this they people believe that they were healed by think about today with everything that's going on there are people that are literally being treated for diseases they don't have because they believe they have it by the tens of thousands we have people that are manipulated believing they're sick when they're not and this is why some man could come up with such confidence that they believed in him he disclosed the truth from the LIE from the mass formation psychosis that had happened at his time which we also just experien and so he concerned at that time if they believe in me then they can heal themselves that's why physician heal thyself that's why he said Do you believe I can heal you yes I do well then according to your faith in me you are healed you did it not him amazing how easily this takes place so I just wanted to point that out and appreciate for the mic and Jake always good to good to hear from you yeah and feel free to stay up here as well I think that like I said we'll take some comments here and there but we're going to try to get through the main bulk of it so but what I do want to read a big point that you may which is this idea of mass formation psychosis and that's a term that came around during the covid uh era a few years back as well where I think this is something people need to really think about because this is part of the way that they're able to lie to us right is they just keep repeating a message over and over and over again and then everybody starts to believe it and creates this feedback loop especially with social media now where then people start posting around social media the politicians read social media and they go oh this is how I should react and then it it just kind of feeds itself and gets worse and worse and worse until you get to a point where I don't even know what's real anymore after that right and that's how we get to a point now with this technology where we've been lied to for so long potentially that now it's hard for anyone to understand what's true and what's even possible and I think that that and that's and that's why I said that we have to start by admitting the lies yep perfect that's why we have to start there because if we don't admit if and look good luck getting government to admit that they lied to the people okay it what Jenny was saying earlier was actually kind of true though about like we are depending like she thought that there was going to be a time when the government was going to come forward and admit and tell us what was what we needed to know we now know that that that waiting for that to happen is not a good idea that it's we're gonna be waiting a very very long time because we're essentially asking the government to give up their power go knowledge and the application of knowledge is power and these people have been keeping the masses in a collective subjective universe or Collective subjective universes that are in many ways at war with one another all the while less than 1% of the population knows and understands a collective objective Universe they understand reality as it exists for itself and how it is that it can essentially be hacked either through human consciousness or through technology Hey Jake your Congress you know one of your big things with Congress is you were talking about this corporate um messing around it would seem to me that the corporate interest is one of the reasons why there isn't a mass disclosure because business is coupled right next to information technology in the government so you know the 50% classification materials when since fouchy started making money on you know different medication patents within the NIH and within the CDC with these private agencies or independent agencies that that's when it got meddled is because then it was financial interest at a at a public level right right like you talk about moving money from government to private private entities that's kind of something that you could make a difference in in you know in Congress Perhaps Perhaps absolutely um whether or not that is going to take place I mean I really don't know there's actually been like and this is totally going off subject but there's there's been a lot of people that have had a lot of trouble getting the signatures necessary to even get on the ballot and they just recently moved the date of the primary up a week so all of the signatures that they had gotten that people had gotten they said that they're going to count them but if they continue down like the same digital signature route with the the primary date as of the week later as opposed to a week earlier then those signatures are not going to count they're just they're just screwing with everything they're they're trying to make it difficult I think they're trying to make it to where certain people don't get in office it really anyway case in point it what we are talking about here is first of all over half of the government's documents are classified I don't know if you guys are aware of that but over half of our government's documentation is classified that means there is no transparency whatsoever and that is part of the problem now I understand what Jenny is saying about how like well there are entities around the world that would seek to exploit vulnerable information or seek to exploit vulnerabilities based on the revealing of information Etc I understand that however one thing that's also important to note here is that when we're talking about the corruption that's in the United States we're not just talking about corruption in the United States you guys we're talking about global corruption here okay we're talking about a massive military-industrial complex soulless machine that spans the entirety of the globe and it is they that are the ones keeping this technology from the masses the Breakaway civilization that is underneath our feet is not just local to the United States of America it is all over the world and because it's all over the world we are talking about a literally a Global Empire that we are up against and that is keeping this information from the public and we're not just talking public in the United States we're talking about on a global scale so when we talk about nefarious International entities that would seek to exploit this information their governments whether it be China or Russia or it be Ukraine or the UK Australia whatever Brazil their governments is are just as much a puppet government as the oiden and Administration is a puppet government right now and that is what is really important to grasp that's why I was saying we have to start with what are the lies tell release all the JFK files for example release all the JFK files no ifans or buts no redacting release the files so that we know what's true when it comes to like 911 or something or it comes to the Vegas shooting declassify it release it give it to the public don't freaking hold it back then we can know what's real and what's false release the MK Ultra stuff release the project Monarch release the stuff we have on human cloning release the stuff from Dolce and Los Alamos these are the kinds of like research studies that I mean [ __ ] they they the CIA has already come out and said that that remote viewing and astral projection is real and people are like what what did Kim Kardashian say last night did can you believe that can you believe she got another botox injection into her ass you know it's like come on man they just admitted to you that you have superhuman capabilities that you're able to like fly to you know Jupiter or to other dimensions and you're all worrying about Taylor Swift kissing her boyfriend at a rig Super Bowl yeah I was going to jump in and say that you know the whole Taylor Swift thing too right it's like it's just bread and Circ or whatever bread and circus for the masses it's just entertainment right it distracts us from the stuff that we could potentially be thinking about and just kind of bring it back as well is that you know I'm even I'm considering or I'm not considering I'm going to make a post too about my own Awakening to this stuff because it's kind of transcendent in the way you realize when you find out that there's technology out there that's so Advanced that it could change every aspect of our civilization it changes you as a person you start to have this motivation where it's like I don't really care about what's on Netflix anymore what the next video game that's coming out or which celebrity is talking to which other celebrity it's like all I want to do is learn how the science works now all I want to do is figure it out for myself and figure out how we can get it out there to the public where we can actually make a difference in this world um and that's what I kind of want the message to be for everybody out there who's listening now real quick Tupa you've had your hand up did you want to talk about what disclosure means to you because I'm actually curious what it means to you as well sir oh uh yeah this is kind of awkward I was going to give you guys a Taylor Swift update just in case anybody know yeah disclosure is a super interesting thing you guys were talking about some interesting stuff um and I could go on for a long time about what I think disclosure is and means but I can't tell you how in line I am with Jake about his views on um what's going on like what is it what exactly is going on uh from the rosar crucian spiritual aspect to you know the actual like documents that we have and that we're following um as you know I've been trying to look look through some of these even the remote viewing ones uh from like remote viewing Mars to just what what remote viewing is uh but you sparked on something I think that's a little bit more tangible maybe maybe more relatable too and more scientific to a degree which is the uh the plasma thing now I'm just going to reference a couple names and what they do and I think you guys should all look into it yourselves and um and Salvatore pasas has talked about this and one of those guys is uh Anthony parat and he's a plasma physicist and what he found years ago was that the petroglyphs found all over the world carved by man the symbols are kind of universal and he is a plasma physicist he just happened to be looking through some of these symbols and he realized that they all of the ones that are Universal across the world uh are shapes of plasma formations that would form naturally and uh a lots of theories have been built on top of this that talk about plasma cosmology there's a great documentary by a man named David talit called um symbols of an alien sky and it talks about how these plasma formations are on a grand scale not just a small one just like how like a static spark shock from when you like rub your foot on the carpet and go to touch somebody it looks just like a tiny little Electrical uh like a lightning bolt because the electrical those formations are kind of fractal-based so they enlarge almost directly in the same way um so it's it's an very interesting aspect look look that up and he kept bringing it up with other physicists on podcast and I just thought that was really interesting um because it's it's so so direct like he created these plasma forms in his lab and then you can go around of these petroglyphs and see the same shape so yeah the theory is U that these things might not only be alive but might also be you know parts of our history that we can kind of look back on and see this is where humans maybe develop the idea of symbols and these letters in the first place but yeah just an idea check it out dude really quick if you don't mind Ashton go for it I I I it's so interesting you say that because when I was meditating in the wilderness I got this download that basically said exactly what you are saying that that the reason why we're seeing these certain symbols all around the world carved into stone or what have you petroglyphs is that they were seeing something that was in the very fabric of SpaceTime itself and for for example the what some people now call the swastika was actually for thousands of of yours a symbol for peace and so it made me go like well wh why was this thing all over the world and this is where I got this download of like dude that that is like a symbol that is etched into the very fabric of SpaceTime itself and if a if a civilization or if a Vortex an ecosystem is at peace then this symbol can end up being like in the in the ecosystem on like a plasmic or spiritual level and these ancients were able to perceive it because their third eyes were open their pineal glance were open they were able to perceive Dimensions beyond the five senses Beyond physicality so you saying that just verified and and this is part of why I tend to just go with what it is that God shows me in these Revelations that I have because they always turn out to be [ __ ] true and it's w it's so cool anyway I'm sorry go ahead Ashton no that's great I love you guys having that con ction right there as well um Prometheus I saw you kind of coming up to speak if you want to go ahead just try to keep it brief but uh go ahead and give us your thoughts as well before we move on to the next topic hey guys good to see you Jake uh Jenny Ashton um Derek everybody here man i' I'd rather be not doing anything else on a Valentine's Day than spreading the love with my with my fellow truth Warriors right here on stage yeah but promethus I think I should be like a good girl here for all My Ladies down there if this means you guys aren't like busy right now does that mean we should put you on like a singles list so you guys could like DM me I'll try to help you out ladies with any of these fine gentlemen that are up on the stage they're perhaps maybe all free for interviews how do we do this yeah Jenny that'd be great but uh going back to our topic there's two of every day yeah well look you know Love Is The End folks this is how we defeat these idiots um guys in a few days I'm going to be launching an eore where you will be able to purchase a free energy device that my team and I have developed um you'll be you can attach Bitcoin miners to that [ __ ] and it'll perpetually you know generate income for you so I'm I'm just sharing as someone who's not just talking about this stuff but act actively working on this um with a team I've got some great physicist friends who are helping me and engine as well but generally speaking folks like everything Jake and Ashton and Jenny like have been covering um this is very real there are Breakaway civilizations they have seriously Advanced Tech and they look at us in fighting over stupid [ __ ] and they're just like what the [ __ ] like why are these you know surface civilizations still you know archaically bombarding one another over this [ __ ] when there's a universe out there okay of billions and billions of kilometers unexplored okay with God knows how many other amazing other civilizations and Horizons of physics and you know all of this stuff that they explore in amazing shows like Star Trek like the best of Star Trek there's some crappy episodes in there too but you know the best of Star Trek and and and you know all these or or Stargate that's soft disclosure folks there are definitely Stargates in our um you know in in our midst uh they found one I believe in Iraq and and a bunch of other places but clearly you know space and time that [ __ ] can be folded like a paper all right and we can we can technically move from one end of the galaxy to the other for anybody who can you know figure out the high-tech quantum physics behind it but um put very simply folks like you know we're we're at the Kitty end of the pool okay like the advanced civilizations and the enlightened enlightened ones you know they're they're looking at us as like okay they they haven't yet escaped the play pen just yet okay let's let's make sure they evolve out of this whole you know destroy each other with nuclear weapons and you know nanotechnology and everything else kind of mindset and once they evolve just a little bit maybe maybe we'll let him come play with the with the big boys all right so you know that's that's just where we're at at least that's how I see it at this point Jake I don't know what do you think [Laughter] bro well thanks for your thoughts Prometheus no I appreciate it man and I think yeah we're going to dig more into that it kind of leads into the next question here as well uh which I want to keep this flowing which is like how advanced do we think the military-industrial complex is has it really achieved Breakaway status and I guess I'll start with my opinion which is that I think it is like at least 50 maybe hundred more years than we are Advanced from the public perspective Jake was saying I think that he says that as we have been progressing every year the military industrial complex has been progressing by several years and um that does in my mind lead to a level of breakaway civilization Tech and you also kind of have to look at it through the Paradigm of how much it would change our civilization right if we would have the capability of overunity which I I know for sure is real um and I think that's something Prometheus was bringing up uh then yes that alone would change basically everything same as potentially room temperature super conductivity as well as other stuff that's even harder to believe you know in terms of being able to move at at or faster than the speed of light have faster light Communications um all of this stuff is is huge and so you can understand why someone would hide it um going back to the comment I was making earlier about like Jeremy Corbell mentioning it is that whoever gets this technology first game over you win right and then at that point you're just trying to prevent all the other adversaries from Catching back up to you and that can explain then part of the reason why they might keep it hidden Jake Jenny what are your thoughts well I totally agree that but this is this is also why I think that we have to come to the realization that for and I'll I'll tell you why it is that I'm saying that what we're dealing with is a global phenomena Global corruption a global Breakaway civilization if you take for example Antarctica and the treaty that they have in Antarctica and how all nations are basically allowed to go to Antarctica and do whatever and basically have a seat at the table and everything is kept secret then we can get into how it is that it actually is similar in outer space as well that it's basically international territory there's no we're not Waring over it everybody's coming together and just sitting at a table agreeing with each other so what we are dealing with when it comes to this military-industrial complex is a global phenomena the Swiss Alps are filled like with like with holes like swiss cheese with these deep underground military bases Ukraine is filled with deep underground military bases created by the Soviet Union everywhere the the United Nations goes they create especially in like third world countries and stuff they create these underground bases they create these infrastructures whenever they move in uh it's the same thing with the UK it's the same thing with the United States with Canada with Mexico everywhere that we have expanded the Middle East everywhere that we've expanded there are these bases and they all interconnect with one another so I did the math and so I I was incorrect so from 1945 until now it's 79 years I'm not very good with math off the top of my head so 79 years now if we do the math and we say that every year since 1945 the military-industrial complex has progressed 10 years ahead of what's on the surface then that means they are currently like over like 790 or so years ahead of what we're at here on the surface the government you guys the government had what's that you'd make it cumulative like it'd be 10 years per every year like yes yes not just 10 years ahead each time no so so like they would Advance 10 years ahead of what's on the surface how long have they had Ai and and how many pieces of TCH I know and that's what I was going to get at was that in the 1960s they had the internet they had cell phones they had computers so these things are just making their way to the public in what late 80s early 90s how long have they had it and how many advancements have they taken with it that where they feel comfortable just disclosing it to the public and be like oh yeah the kids the kids can play with that we've got this much better thing over here right and yeah AI falls into that category as well that if they're allowing us to experiment with things like grock or chat GPT or what have you then what other kind of tools do they have in the dumps what other kind of AI is there um and this also goes to things like cloning goes to things like transhumanism and like cyborgs and things of that nature now if we say for example that um these 79 years they've only been progressing at seven years ahead of the surface then that still puts them 553 years ahead of anything that we have and if we look at the exponential rate at which just the technology on the surface has grown then those hundreds of years are actually in many ways like light years or thousands of years ahead of anything that we can possibly conceive of because as they build upon say for example Zero Point Energy and tr3b level technology which they had in the 50s and the 60s as they build on that technology they're going to get to a Next Level that's even better even greater than that technology and then from that technology they're going to build something even better and even more intense even more mind-blowing even more physics defy uh uh defying etc etc so those 553 years or those 790 years are so far beyond the mental reach of the average individual that's living in an illusory world where they are like obsessed with who Taylor Swift is dating or you know who uh when the Kardashian Keeping Up with the Kardashians comes on again those those people are living in an illusory world and that's why it's going to be difficult for disclosure to take place unless unless we first admit where the lies are coming from and then we start to disseminate the spiritual and the technological advances that have and research that have been done kind of uh in tandem with each other Ashton do you mind if I ask you a question real quick yeah yeah go for it what do you think about the um Beyond Majestic after the panel who up here has seen that and and is there a percentage you'd agree with that movie uh I haven't seen it but can you just tell me what particular aspect it's basically secret space program it it basically defines the secret space program it goes back many years it has the 20 in back Cory Goods on there they say that we have civilizations all over the place we first began with a um submarine which that's when we began to you know fly and use so it's a it's extremely Advanced they blame the trillions of dollars missing in the 9911 on um that program so it's it's basically a very highly developed interplanetary you know whatever it's yeah honestly like I so like I was saying in the beginning I start from the ground up and work my way up to it so the reality is I don't know how much of the stuff that gets to be really unbelievable is true but I know already that some stuff that I would have found unbelievable even less than a year ago is true and so you know it makes you wonder how much of it is stuff that they're trying to throw out there distract us from stuff that's more grounded uh or how much of it is is really possible I think that I keep my mind open to everything that's out there especially if you're talking about the ability to move faster than light um I think like Prometheus was talking about folding the paper and now being able to travel anywhere if the thing is once you open your mind up to the idea of a unification Theory uh that allows for there to be an extra Dimension if you want to think of it or a matrix underlying Matrix now you can start to do stuff that would seem like cheating that would seem impossible to anybody else who's trying to stay really grounded in what they see out there um so yeah I think that some of that stuff could be possible but um to me it's it's really one step at a time what I know for sure is that there are some Concepts out there that people think are impossible that are not uh like overunity I also very very strongly believe that faster than light communication and faster than light travel are possible all because of the same basis of there being an extra Dimension out there that space is itself is not empty and if space is not empty then you can uh collect energy from the vacuum of SpaceTime beyond that what I would say is that the people and this is kind of something I was going to talk about later but I think it's a good time to bring it up is that the people that know about this this stuff have no incentive to let everybody else know if you're getting paid millions of dollars to sell these types of devices or research this technology you don't give a crap about what people on Twitter on social media people on the TV think is real or not real or you know that type of stuff and that's probably part of the reason why I kept is kept hidden and and this is the part two where like I want to be careful about when we talk about stuff like a deep State and what have you I do think that there is an administrative Elite that does hold back a lot of this information but I think we also have to look in the perspective again it's not all black and white is that everybody's got their own individual motivations and what they do and then when you add it all together then it leads to this pretty toxic type situation where you can't get the information out anymore and no one has an individual interest in doing it I even partially think that I might be somewhat being used in a way where the people that do want the information out they don't want to be the ones to put themselves out there the ones to be attacked where it's like they want the People Like Us in this chat right right now where we're doing it for them right where we've been told information that this stuff's going to be true we've seen it we've read papers on it and and helping to get this information out there we might be getting in indirectly used to soft disclosure if you want to think of it like that have you found stuff Ashton in your research that just kind of happened upon you that you don't know really how you found it but you did and it added a lot to your research not so much that way but there's definitely been situations where I've had engineers and scientists coming up to me reaching out to me or connections that almost feel faded to run into you know um one of them in general was when I was watching this ape panel on the alien scientists who if you guys haven't checked out alien scientist YouTube I I definitely recommend checking it out he has really awesome panels with people that are like literal like a government engineers and scientists and one of them I remember is now one of my good friends Dave Rossi and I'm staring at him watching him on this panel and I can just tell right away from listening to him that he knows more information than probably most people know like just from the way he's talking the way he's presenting himself the stuff he's talking about and so I'm like I got to talk to this guy and I remember to going to my Discord being like hey I got I want to reach out to him I want to see if I can get him on my hardre podcast and next thing I know I'm getting a message from a Dave and it turns out i' had already been text messaging him he had he was messaging me under a different name and I'm going wait what I'm like you're you're the one I was just trying to get in touch with right so it's like those kind of connections and the same kind of thing I had happen with Salvador Pas right or the same thing where Bob Greener is uh sitting here doing low energy nuclear reactions and it turns out he's hanging out with Malcolm bendal who's talking about uh Vortex generators and now he's I I literally posted a paper guys that shows Coop greater than one that's coefficient of performance greater than one we're talking about literal total energy output higher than the energy that's being put in and it's just a matter of understanding what those papers mean in terms of Layman's perspectives right and then just kind of figuring out okay well if we uh extrapolate that then what can that lead to I personally believe that coefficient performance much greater than one are possible not just 1.05 like that particular paper um and that will change everything so yeah does that answer your question Jenny it does I appreciate it awesome so then I think the next question logically is we're kind of building up here towards um an end goal of how do we get this information out but the next question I think we have to tackle is what are the implications of this technology do you believe that this type of advanced technology can lead to weapons of mass destruction I think we need even a better term because when you think of wmds you think of nukes and we're not talking about nukes anymore we're talking about weapons that make nukes look like little child's toys that they're throwing around right we're talking about weapons that can destroy entire planets uh can potentially destroy a sun can potentially create a big bang like that's the scale we need to be thinking of I think even Prometheus was talking earlier about if there are hypothetically other beings out there and they have been around their civilizations have been around for hundreds of thousands or millions of years then we are literally ants to them and even with this type of rudimentary forms of these Technologies where we could even let's say teleport an airplane that's nothing compared to what they can do because they've already got it scaled up to a degree where they might be able to take out our whole solar system right um so that's the type of thing where to me I think that that this technology absolutely leads to that I think I've gotten quotes from basically every ufologist out there that I don't know if they even themselves realize the implications of what they're saying but that this is why this type of Technology would be classified higher than nuclear weapons the highest possible level um what are your thoughts Jake and Jenny well I'll start by saying the answer is an emphatic yes these things can be used and weaponized to do incredible amounts of harm this is why I was saying that in order for this technology to be release to the public we also have to release it in tandem with spiritual understanding and spiritual knowledge because not only do the two coincide with one another but it's like what musk said about if you want to play with big toys you have to be a big boy we need to mature spiritually before this kind of Technology makes its way into our hands as individuals and as a collective we are still territorial primat with thermonuclear arsenals that are attempting to use fear as a means of uh poke pushing in everybody's face this idea of oh nuclear war nuclear war nuclear war Putin this Putin war criminal that we have to go to war in Ukraine we have to go to war in Israel war war war right so that kind of mentality that childlike mentality with weapons that could destroy moons or plan planet or stars is it's like giving a a a group of children that enjoy playing with fire a book of matches in a really dry old home and saying have fun kids you know we'll see you later eventually that house is g to get burned down and the kids with it so and then eventually that you know that that will also spread to the forest you know especially if that c is like you know out in the middle of the woods you're going to get a forest fire and something that started out as that could have been totally prevented if you just didn't give the kids the matches or if you had at least educated them and before you had given them matches like for example and I I'll kind of I'm not trying to get too far away here but this is a great example of the kind of level of understanding that we have to create in order for this technology to be released um my grandparents when they caught my uncles as kids playing with matches my mom and my dad actually did the same thing to my brothers from what I remember um when they caught them playing with fire and they caught them playing with matches they forced them to light a match and to hold the match in their fingers until the fire made its way all the way down to their fingertips and then they got burned it wasn't like they you know beyond that they got burned they had dropped the match and then they put the match out and you know they understood no fire is not a toy it can hurt you it can hurt you really really badly don't play with matches don't play with fire not a good idea so that's just saying go Ono well well so when we talk about this kind of Technology it can it also has the capacity to create it has the capacity to heal it has the capacity to literally allow us to colonize other worlds and terraform places like Mars and turn it into a paradise it has the capacity to do incredible things beyond our wildest imaginings not just destroyed but the question is is whose hands are the Technologies in and what kind of research is going to get funded if it's the military industrial complex well what is the military-industrial complex do they go to war they fight they kill so then if it's in their hands what are they likely going to do with that kind of Technology they're going to weaponize it if it's in the hands of somebody that's like a botanist or somebody that is like an artist or some sort of like an engineer or something then what are they going to do they're likely going to create with it they're G to do something with it that has long-term ramifications that will be creative in nature that will be addition an addition to the human culture and species as opposed to a destruction of it and so I think that is really what it comes down to is whose hands are these Technologies in and currently the technology is in the hands of the military-industrial complex of less than 1% of the population who seeks to have a you know this depopulation agenda they believe in Eugenics they believe in transhumanism in this notion that human beings are these like stinky meat sacks or something so that we got to get this stuff out of their hands and the only way to do that is for us as individuals to kind of it's like a Do-it yourself disclosure we have to do the research we have to talk to people like Salvador Pas we have to do the research we have to look into people like David Adair are you familiar with David Adair Ashton uh no I'm not but I I can dude dude you will love David Adair this guy uh built Rockets out of his own backyard when he was like 16 17 years old and they they brought him into the military industrial complex uh Space Program when he was a kid in like the 60s or the 70s and uh this guy's a genius you'll love his work David Adair he's he's also really kind of funny too some of his stories are freaking hilarious like he talks about how he was brought into this like hanger where there was this craft that was like a gig antic metal Bean of sorts that was reflective and it was it was like reflective not just of His Image but also of his emotions and stuff like that like he could go up to it and and it could like react to his Vibes and uh one of the things that he said I think uh to I think it was to one of the military people that was taking him through the base he said uh something like that that's not one of yours is it that that this isn't from around here huh and they gave him like the stern look because they're you know he he's taking it a little lightly but he was a 17y old 18y old kid something like that but you'll love him anyway he talks about the secret space program a lot too yes there is a breakaway civilization yes these tools are being used to hold the Earth Hostage to hold Humanity hostage these Technologies like what you're talking about about like infinite amounts of energy or the ability to try travel and stuff like that they are being used in these higher Dimensions to manufacture a timeline where these less than 1centers stay in power where these Technologies are used to keep Humanity hostage the way a gun can be used to keep a person hostage these Technologies are being used to keep the planet hostage so we have to do do it-yourself disclosure we have to get this information out there and the only way that we can do so is by understanding how the technology works yeah I think that's a good uh uh nice little uh speech there I appreciate that and I think that you're right in terms of you know what it takes to get the information out there um as if I summoned him actually Dave Zed uh just jumped up here in the speaker panel I want to hear his thoughts as well in terms of what the dangers are of the technology in general or anything else he wants to say regarding um what we were talking about so welcome Dave nice to have you up here buddy thank you Ashton thank you everybody for um for being here this is great and yeah the timing was was actually quite ideal um forgive me if there's any background no but to be honest uh there's not much that I can really add to what Jake is saying because to a large degree uh Jake sorry we don't know each other but I very much strongly agree with what you're saying um um for me I'm more of a you know a technical person in terms of uh finding a way to cor or explain the correlations between the example of how you know a human or a person would walk or Mr Adair would walk up to the craft and there would be this sort of sympathetic resonance but um in terms of the overall I guess you could say landscape and dynamic of of how things are going and and the battle that is still ensuing I can only say that I just want to uh double up with what Jake has been saying essentially yeah do you think this technology could lead to uh you know doomsday weapons is what I guess I call them it's higher than mass destruction is that a fear yeah it would it would be what we'd call uh you know dual use technology like a hammer right you can use it to fix something or hit someone on the head with it so it's the same thing we can either use it to heal um if scaled up uh in various regards with you know whether it's lasers plasma uh Bose Einstein condensates Etc it can also be used for propulsion Transportation but you know you for example if you build a propulsion Thruster a prototype and please let me preface this by saying that what I'm about to say here does not mean that I believe this should stay hidden uh or stay suppressed uh with that said though the other side of that is all it takes is someone who is not um dare I say spiritually mature uh to you know have their girlfriend or boyfriend call them up and break up with them and they they turn that Thruster sideways or they make it handheld and you know they blow up someone's house with it it's it's that it's that genuine of uh of of U power the density is that strong and if if I could say very quickly what I'm about to say here was calculated and proven theoretically and then the experiments the experimental discoveries were later classified on this but Richard feeman and John Wheeler amongst some others as well calculated that there's based on the Zero Point Energy concept there's enough energy within the size of a coffee cup um to evaporate the world's oceans if one would be able to tap this energy experimentally and so again this just goes to show that there's more than one way to skin this cat for better and or worse so that that's that's where I would stand with that no that's good and I think that goes to our next question uh and the kind of thought process too which is that then how do we disclose this type of Technology if it does have uh these huge implications of Weaponry right I think that this kind of kind of goes back to the space where I think I first met Jake oh no no it wasn't the when I first met him but a space that I had with Dr Greer and uh kim.com was in there and I have respect for kim.com but this doesn't paint him in the in the best light is that he asked Dr Greer you know why don't the aliens and beans just give us the cure for cancer because the reality too is if you look at the interview that Jesse Michaels had with Hal pudol and Eric Weinstein even Eric Weinstein says it's a Pandora's box right it's not a situation where you're just giving someone the one specific fix for the one specific ailment right it's a situation where you need a unification theory of quantum and macro and when you've got that now all this technology starts to leak out it's like Dave just said is you might have a Healing medical healing device you might have an over Unity device but now you turn it sideways and now you've got like a rail gun right or something much much worse so what are your guys thoughts in terms of how do we disclose it without either revealing the classifi information because I think that or the the dangerous stuff and this is what Dr Greer responded said when I asked him if it could lead to that he said yes it can lead to Doomsday weapons but that we'll just keep that stuff hidden how do you do that what are your guys thoughts Dave do you want to start I know you were jumping in then maybe go to Jil sure um I don't to be honest I don't claim to have the answer here um I I to a very very very minimal degree I can understand many decades ago why it was decided to be sort of put on the Shelf but that also doesn't mean at the same time that it should have been put on the shelf for as long as it has so um it's it's tough it really is because the thing is is that when one accesses this Zero Point Energy or this what the Germans called in the 20s and 30s under Heisenberg uh the zitter buag gang uh speaking to the notion that uh everything that we think of as empty space is actually at the quantum micro level constantly oscillating um so when we think of something like that and we think of the the possibilities that can come from that I I very respectfully but strongly disagree with Dr Greer when he says well we can just keep the rail gun stuff aside because again I'm not looking for anyone to blindly believe me because if they have if you guys haven't seen it yourselves I don't expect anyone to to do so so take this with a grain of salt but some of the things I've seen experimentally in the laboratory with a couple of uh you know additions to some amplification of a resonant frequency by taking a certain experiment under the conditions of say you know a few hundred Hertz and then amplifying that up into the gigahertz range um or you you begin to uh how can it gets very dangerous very quickly and so it's not that simple as to Simply say well we can bring the healing stuff out but we we can keep the weaponized stuff aside because all it takes is an electrical engineer or even a garage inventor to say wait a minute if I just attach an amplifier a couple of you know uh RLC circuits and a few things here or there all of a sudden I've turned this microvolt Quantum healer into a literal directed energy weapon I mean we've seen for example uh I'll finish with this we've seen people in the past from DARPA who have publicly gone uh stated like Dr James jordano uh he started earlier than others discussing this in terms of uh coming out in 2017 2018 2019 um you can use uh the garbage bin um Lids to actually reflect some of these beams and utilize as a direct energy weapon so it it really becomes that simple once you have the access to this this technology um and so that's why I do differ with from Dr Greer in that aspect it's not as simple as just saying hey we can put this stuff aside and bring this stuff out it's it's not that easy yeah and I think that the thing that I think I don't know if other people are thinking it but I'm thinking it is like man how do you prevent a mad scientist right is the moment you open this up like the problem is that it doesn't take an Army in order to uh deploy this type of stuff you know and especially if we think back in the early 2010s when we had terrorist organizations and literal you know Islamic State that you know uh was uh beheading people and it wouldn't necessarily be them but it could be any nefarious actor right you open the door up and it's like how do you then stop that it almost seems like this could be the logical reason for why you might have this military-industrial complex this covert Elite that is potentially hiding it um Jake or Jenny what are you guys thoughts do you mind if I real quick I just want to put in something from philosophy here and and make sure we're looking at this appropriately if we design a progression in a regressive State then your final result is going to be it's going to reflect that meaning if you look at technology and you direct it in the form of what you fear you're actually predetermining a path that the technology itself will take based on fear so from just looking at like you know development of human ity which direction can you go based on the fact of a boogeyman around every corner and where will that lead you in the end so philosophically just look at a creative state and then like a fear State it's completely different in the way and means which we do things like we have where all of our money has gone to technology for war for things that we fear so the new Society based on what Jake is talking about where and I believe 2 and wherever really somebody did a soft disclosure that it is time for us to begin within and and learn the powers that we have you know an internal locus of control to deal with the technology we're going to be seeing so I think in essence we have been preparing of this Age of Enlightenment when in actuality it's just gaining control over yourself and your thoughts and your emotions and acting accordingly so you know these are really important things to look at but the the the end of the road and how we we progress is important yeah what I'm hearing there is like almost reaching the spiritual enlightenment like I call it raising our Collective conscious to a point where like we don't feel like we're going to destroy ourselves and that we realize like what's important and what's not important you know and that's something that I I worry about because if that's true I don't know that we're necessarily close to that Jake what are your thoughts man well one thing I think that we're kind of failing to realize here is that we're talking about creating Technologies right based on tapping into the fundamental laws of physics and then weaponizing them right we can obviously do the same thing when it comes to Healing now if we also factor in what we were saying earlier about how we're attempting to create craft to do what it is that the human Mind Body Spirit complex can already do on its own then I think we're failing to realize that we have the capacity to do many of the things that are currently being weaponized as far as technology goes but these abilities are being suppressed by suppressing our Consciousness now that may seem a little far out there but think about it if we have the capacity to astral project or remote view the ring around Jupiter then what else can we do is it possible to use the sun to create a solar flare that targets satellites is it possible to do some sort of uh uh emit some sort of frequency that causes an earthquake is it possible to do what shamans have done for thousands of years and bring a rainstorm and lightning and thunder you see and so the question then becomes not so much a how do we disclose this information how do we disclose this technology but more so how do we disclose the information itself so that it is packaged in a way to where people don't want to use it to destroy they would much rather use it to create themselves into this incredible being and achieve all they possibly can to reach the height and the level of human accomplishment and achievement that is how it is that we need to package this information not so much that people want to use it to destroy now here's something that a lot of people don't quite realize I think is that yes this technology can be used to do X Y and Z and that could be destructive but in order to do that you need to get your hands on the hardware to make it possible and so having a limit on the kind of Hardware that would make such a device possible is one element that could stop something like that from happening also it's also important to note here you guys that like you know the kind of psychopaths that we're talking about or they were worried about having access to this kind of Weaponry guess what they already got it you know what I'm saying like they're working in the government like so like hey hold on a second here what it is is that they want to keep their technology weaponized and keep the capacity for it to heal or to uh positively influence agriculture or to start mining asteroid Fields Etc they want to keep that technology from us it has nothing to do with the Weaponry they've already made it they've already made it and they're the Psychopaths that we're talking about that we should all be worried about they've already gotten there what they want to do is keep the technology to themselves so that it can be used and weaponized to hold Earth and Humanity Hostage to to keep us in a prison basically and not allow us to not just reach a technological state of evolution but and this is really important a spiritual state of evolution as well because we can do incredible incredible things that they are trying because their spirituality is handicapped they are trying to use technology to get to a certain level of development that we can get to spiritually yeah if I could jump in there too I would say that from my own kind of Awakening I guess I like that word um regarding this you know I used to be somebody that started off as a I was raised religious I was an atheist in college I became agnostic and from just this undergoing and in the last few years understanding the capabilities of science have again now looped back around and becoming more spiritual where you look at the science and you go oh wow if there's an extra Dimension like this has profound impacts to the idea of there being a construct the idea of what life means and what happens after you die and all of this stuff as well and it's it really wakens you up to the stuff that's really important um to your degree Jake one thing I want to say is this is why I support you for Congress is that you have great ideas on some of this the question of how do we stop ourselves from destroying ourselves with this type of technology is not an easy one to answer and you said we put limits on the hardware right that's the way we do it that's the way we do it with nukes as well is we try not to let people have plutonium or whatever the requirements are in order to create the weapons we can also potentially create detectors where if somebody's making a gravitational wave or something we can go figure out where that is and and go knock on their door right they might already be doing that for all we know um so I think that there are things and you have to kind of think outside the box on that type of stuff so those are really great thoughts and then then the next logical question is okay we've now addressed that there's this technology that's being kept hidden um you know one thing I'll say real quick as well is that I am 100% certain that there is technology out there that as is being kept hidden that normal people that have not had this type of Awakening will have a very hard time believing and that's fine like Dave just said you know I'm not asking you to believe me I understand it's very difficult um but I am speaking the absolute truth as I know it um that's out there and that there are Elites that are you know hiding and hoarding this technology and they don't give a crap if other people figure it out or not right so then the next question is well how do we even get it out you know my view on it is comes from a weird letter that was sent to me through a YouTube channel the weirdest thing that's probably ever happened my whole life and at the end it says I I'll just kind of paraphrase it for you guys it says how do you stop somebody that has unlimited power that has complete control over the media that can craft a perception of events that has the whole world eating out of the palm of their hands think about that they say after a decade of serving in their life orever lifetime is serving in them they say that the answer is you talk about them and you don't stop talking so that's my answer as well is that you just talk about them you do what we're doing right now which is you talk about this information you try to wake up every single person that you can one at a time if necessary what do you think Jake I think what you got to do is first of all you have to know them better than they know themselves then you have to develop a strategy where you use what they want in your own favor you have to use what they want against them and so I'll give you an example um I'm sure many of you have seen the most recent Renditions of the Star Trek uh franchise the movie movies and the one called Star Trek Into Darkness where KH is one of the is the antagonist there's a part where I like that movie The K's crew and KH species are in these like torpedo like Chambers inside of the ship uh inside of the USS Enterprise and Khan ends up making his way somehow on to this other more Superior militarized ship and then he ends up holding the other crew hostage uh uh on on the Enterprise and basically saying I want all of my crew beam them over to me and then you know uh I'll let your captain go he held he held Kirk hostage and so what Spock did is he removed spoiler alert Spock removed all of the crew all of um Khan's crew from these Torpedoes and he activated all the Torpedoes so that way when KH used the you know beam me up Scotty uh teleporter to move all of these Torpedoes that he thought had his crew in it he was actually moving a bunch of torpedoes that were rigged to blow over to this other militarized Superior vessel and in this way Spock used what he wanted against him this is the kind of thinking that we have to use we have to think several moves ahead and yes talking about them is one thing but the thing is we have to also recognize that if and especially when you get an individual that knows and understands this [ __ ] and is able to articulate it in a way that other people can know and understand it then you're going to have infiltrators coming in that try to control that opposition they either try to disrupt or they come in with lots of money or they come in with you know secret government documents that are going to blow the lid off the whole thing and those secret government documents are actually like bait to discredit you Etc so you're going to have to know how it is that these agencies work how it is they infiltrate how it is that they bring movements down and you're going to also have to be very wary of um of individuals that are going to take what it is that you're saying and twist it just enough to where they mislead people and they lead them down a road that isn't true it's it's so it's not enough to just talk about it it's it's you have to to do so in a way that not only makes sense but that can be relayed to somebody else in a way that cannot be uh misinterpreted or fumbled in any way shape or form and then you have to anticipate the moves of your opposition which are this extremely powerful you know less than 1% of the population and then you have to know them better than they know themselves and you have to use what it is that they want against them so final Point final example they are trying to take over the world through the illusion of the climate crisis right so they've programmed through neurolinguistic programming and critical Factor bypass and mass formation hypnosis they have programmed Millions if not billions of people all over the planet to believe that pollution is somehow destroying the planet which to a certain extent it is but they've created the illusion that it's CO2 and then they're pushing winter turbines they're pushing solar panels they're pushing lithium batteries they're pushing getting rid of natural gas they're pushing getting rid of oil all the while they're not talking about these Technologies whether it be Tesla Towers or it be Zero Point Energy that could solve all these problems no problem and so think about the idea of if they've brainwashed all these people into believing a lie so that they can take over the world we have to know oh they want to take over the world so they've tried brainwashing all these people now we can use all this momentum that they've created by informing all these people that there is a some sort of environmental catastrophe or something that is imminent we can use all of those people to then inform them that Tesla Tower technology infinite free clean wireless energy and Zero Point Energy engines are real and all we have to do is release this and the problem will be solved the planet will be saved and in a sense they've already in that way they have undercut their own agenda they've undercut their own base to monopolize all of our resources all it takes is getting this information to that group of people know them better than they know themselves know their agenda better than they know it themselves and use that momentum that they've created to destabilize or to throw off balance their strategy and use it to push Humanity in the right direction that's really well said a couple big points I want to mention on there is um the first thing I think I like as well is about you know I don't like to get too political in general but the idea of climate change is something I've never been too worried about because I think that humans are very uh ingenuous uh that we will figure out a solution to any problem that were to arise same thing in terms of fossil fuels in terms of them running out is doesn't it's not something that concerns me the moment you get to a point where we need to change Humanity will adjust that's my personal opinion in general um and I think that same with climate change is that I think we already have the capability for green energy um and it's just a matter of getting out to the open so I don't worry about that very much and then with respect to knowing the enemy or you know knowing the people who are hiding this absolutely that's how I've been approaching everything since I began my investigation into the missing plane um knowing about the technology potentially being real is you want to learn everything we can about them the way they think what they're doing right look for that weakness just like in the in that movie Star Trek I love that movie by the way that was one of the better ones where you know Khan is this super intelligent quote unquote alien that looks just like us I think that's interesting analogy um and that you use his own weaknesses against him his weakness what is it it's his friends it's his his allies in that situation the ones that he's trying to save right it seems kind of dark but the reality is the world isn't black and white you know it's Shades of Gray so I I don't know that we're necessarily going to get the answer here today but I think that now we we know what we need to do we need to learn we need to watch we need to see how they're acting when we see stuff like oh Russia's putting nukes in space to shoot down satellites we should go wait a minute what that doesn't make any sense what are they what is really going on here what's the real technology that Russia has that we're afraid of that we need to get Declassified to all of Congress right and who knows what it is but at least we know we can do something which rri who's been requesting to ask and we'll get to the people who want to jump up here in a minute uh kind of talk me or we talked about which is you prove the LIE when you prove the lie all of a sudden the truth begins to present itself and if we can prove the lie in this case that yeah doesn't make any sense to shoot down a salot with a nuke then you start to wonder okay what is the truth in that situation um Jenny did you have any thoughts on how we get the technology out um no I was actually looking at waveforms and and I'm really interested in observed reality and light so that's where I am sorry no that's good um and I've been going down the science path myself I'm still very at the very beginning of that journey in general there is a lot to learn but what I would tell people is that go ahead well back in the day I was a massage therapist right went to Tean to be with pyramids and learned the toltech path right from dagel Ruiz this is when I was a kid and then I I en enrolled in this Quantum University in California near um long I'm talking like when when um AIT bwami you know like or goswami excuse me when these guys were coming out and people were making fun of them in Mass so this is this technology married now with censor ability noticing it it's just I'm so excited to Finly be able to like what I think Jake's gift is is to bring together the physical and the non-physical to give us a whole new structure of reality we can work with where we're creators and and I think Jake seems to believe from you know what I'm listening to him about how that this closer should work you're kind of trusting human beings given the technology and the state of life where poverty isn't an issue where suppression isn't an issue then you may not have as much um you know as much what would you call that like uh inside evil you know given an entire adjustment to the way that we live yeah and I so I think that part of this goes to my my next question too which is how do we know what's real and what's not real you know and and the answer is we learn we teach ourselves I think that there's probably a lot of people listening and there's some people might chat as well that have been clapping or agreeing because they've been trying to get this technology out some of them for years some of them for decades right I think it's been out there for that long in general now how do we know what's real and what's not my journey in terms of researching electrical engineering reading papers Etc is that the answers is they are out there and in a lot of cases what you'll find is when people push back on them they push back on them with forms of disinformation and when you find something that's out there and then the people are arguing back and and a using disinformation without logical arguments just saying oh well that's not possible because the one thing you hear a lot is it violates the laws of of physics or something well then you go well it doesn't really violate the laws of physics if there's an extra Dimension that we don't perceive in that situation then or if we can wrap SpaceTime around an object now we can move at superluminal speeds without defining the laws of physics as we know it and with over Unity if we open our system up to the vacuum energy of SpaceTime itself which is not empty then we can realize that there is a capability where we can have uh de we can get more energy out than we put in it's not that we're creating extra energy out of nothing it's that we're borrowing the energy from vacu SpaceTime itself that's the way that we have to think and when you read the papers and you read scientific discoveries the one thing that I would really impress upon everybody don't just read the news about them when you read the news you're reading editorial you're reading opinions read the papers themselves dig into what that paper actually means and then we can use a tool that's now starting to become really prevalent called AI you can ask the questions for anything you don't understand any concept you don't understand I think it may even be possible for AI to actually figure out disclosure and the reason why I've come to that conclusion here is that if you look at what just recently what I've been doing with this crowdsource investigation into the missing MH370 plane all of that information is public knowledge all of it is there was no secret information that I got behind the scenes or people in dark alleys passing me folders or anything like that and AI pretty much just Aggregates the information that's out there it's been pretty impressive when I've asked it questions has being able to pull back stuff like the cers system and how that works right and people just didn't even know what out there but there's videos out there and multiple different press releases and uh technical capabilities of these systems so it may be possible that we can even use AI to aggregate the information pull it together and get answers out of it and one example of this has been recently popular Iz is the idea of that AI might be able to figure out additional meta materials um you know stuff like lk99 elements that have new properties when you combine them in very specific ways so I think that that's a really interesting aspect one other thing I want to mention as well is just based on this discussion if there are traditional scientists and physicists that are out there that are going these guys are all in the woo whatever I'd say there's probably some aspects where we are pushing that boundary but this stuff is real it's out there and what I would challenge those people out there that think that way that think that this stuff can't be real or whatever is go read the papers read the scientific paper that I posted in nature regarding the vortex uh generator producing cop greater than one you know read the other scientific stuff that's out there including unitel which is something that I've come across which essentially combines all of the aspects that I've been talking about and this uniel stuff was deleted off the internet looks like over 10 years ago and they're literally talking about using a macroscopic observable superconduct inductive state to be able to propel a craft fast as a speed of light or faster and using Quantum tunneling to basically cheat physics as we know it to be able to move faster than speed light to fold SpaceTime to a degree to rebuild the wave function and allow a macroscopic object to achieve super luminal speeds I mean it seems absolutely incredible but if you go look in the math I think you'll find out that it actually checks out so with that being said guys what are your uh I want to bring some people up for the panel part but you guys have any other uh kind of last thoughts uh in terms of the Round Table around any of those topics that just brought up yeah um I just want to say that we have had the capacity to create infinite free clean wireless electricity for over a hundred years Nicola Tesla released this patent it works he filed it it works he he released it to the public and anytime every time anybody has tried to start implementing said technology they get a knock on the door and they are shut down or they are killed now I am all for keeping weapons out of the hands of insane people we currently have weapons in the hands of insane people though and interestingly enough the only way to wrench those weapons from their hands is to use the very technology that they are attempting to use to keep us Hostage to use it to create a better system that makes their system obsolete they there's a lot of talk that oh well you know if you release this technology then it's only a matter of time before somebody weaponizes it well yes and no Tesla's Towers I mean you you can you can use those to create a massive surge of energy that could be considered like an explosive but the only way you could do that is if you build up the energy and to a point to where you will end up creating a signal and you can also create Hardware that doesn't allow such a thing to take place and you can also create Hardware that scans the environment to ensure that if and when a certain amount of energy is reached then then a a a red flag goes up or something and people know that somebody's trying to create something that's destructive I'm sorry what I'm sorry you cut out there Jenny um so my point is this currently we have all of the technology that we need to create a parallel economy we have all of the technology that we need to create a better world one that is symbiotic with the rest of the environment and one that is symbiotic with other nations we have the ability to create Heaven on Earth with massive amounts of surplus and abundance we can use this technology for agriculture we can use it for communication we can use it for transportation we can use it for energy acquisition we can use it for all sorts of other things the like healing medicine the the getting rid of pollutants cleaning up the environment purifying Water Supplies the list goes on and on and on and on and on the question is how mentally and emotionally ready is Humanity to use or to understand this technology and to use it toward our betterment as opposed to toward our detriment the real Battlefield is the mind understand how the technology Works understand how Tesla's towers work understand how the tr3b works understand how the Zero Point Energy engine works understand what Ashton is talking about like he said read the scientific papers and if you don't get it the first time around don't throw it away just read it again and believe in yourself that you can understand this stuff and if you have to look up a word of I don't know what quantum entanglement is for example okay well look it up what is quantum entanglement can you understand that okay good now in order to understand some of these really big Concepts the the real trick and Ash maybe you can attest to this point it's not so much about digesting the whole thing all at once that's not what it's about it's more so about understanding all of the little Concepts that seem somewhat esoteric Within These much larger Concepts and then putting all of these little Concepts which are actually in and of themselves kind of big Concepts putting all of these Concepts together in a way that creates a synergistic understanding where you have this conglomerating understanding about all of this stuff and how all they inter how all of them interrelate similar to making a cake you you need eggs you need butter you need flour you need sugar Etc but all of those things separate from themselves or from each other they're not going to make a cake and if you have one uh too much of one ingredient or too little of another you're not going to get a cake you need a certain amount of X Y and Z to get a and c and this is the understanding that comes with understanding this technology is that you need a little bit of this you need to have an understanding of that you need a dash of understanding of this and once you understand all these Concepts and how they or late then that creates a cake then that creates this much larger understanding and once you understand it once you stretch your mind to those New Dimensions there's no going back and you've also expanded the Consciousness not just of yourself but for Humanity as a whole and that is part of the name of the game here ladies and gentlemen is getting the collective Consciousness to shift and on that I will I will end yeah and so I absolutely agree Jake I think that for the people out there that think oh not smart enough you're wrong you are it's a matter of starting from the foundation or working your way up I literally started with looking at basics of electrical engineering YouTube videos several months ago and in only a few months I feel like I progressed several years of academic uh learning in general and all the information is out there now if you want to go more traditional route take classes absolutely you can do that as well and you'll learn more traditional routes of of learning science and and stuff like that but it really comes down to learning that framework and when you've learned that framework then going to more and more advanced concepts and not necessarily just believing what you see in editorial and in the news but actually digging into the potential scientific papers that are out there opening your mind to this concept of there might be an extra Dimension there might be something underline to our universe um and that space itself is not empty and then when I think you realize that you realize we don't need to redefine the laws of physics in any way shape or form we just need to look at them through a new lens um and again what I would press upon the traditional academics that are out there to look at we don't need to redefine them we just need to look at them through a new lens keep this last thing in mind I've already mentioned it once before is that a lot of the people that if you're somebody who knows this stuff's real you don't have any incentive to come forward what what's the point if you go on CNN everybody's going to call you crazy or whatever right the the level of the collective conscious hasn't risen to the point where it'll be accepted and so there's no incentive for them to come forward nobody's going to go and wheel out the alien bodies or the crafts for you right you've got to figure out how the science works for yourself and come to your own conclusions and hell if Joe Biden Wheels out the alien bodies I'm going to be the first person to go okay I don't think alens are real anymore um so you know we we really just have to teach ourselves and come to our own uh conclusion about uh reality in general now just real quick shout out I want to do is um to this new organization that's been developed in the UF Community Skyfire news they have been doing a lot of amazing work tupo was up here earlier today red panda I saw him in the chat um and they've been doing amazing work kind of collecting information out there why is this important is that yes there's like this drama aspect to it in terms of what's going on in the UFO Community which gez there's more than I would have more drama than I would ever imagined if you guys like keeping up with Kardashians there's your UFO content related to it but the better part is that they're getting the information out there where you can then vet it yourselves and figure out like if you look at what these people are saying these ufologists these UFO celebrities whatever you want to call them through the lens of the conversation that we've had today I think that you'll find the truth rising to the surface you'll start to realize oh wow the implications that Jake and Ashton and Jenny are talking about this technology this really explains why these people are acting the way they are why they're koi about information why the people with the ndas can't just come out and say everything that they know because you realize these implications are much much bigger than oh I'm just going to clap some alien cheeks or whatever it is right um so yeah that's uh kind of how I wanted to end my part of this before opening it up Jenny did you have any last thoughts I saw you jump up you guys are good I was just fighting off aliens in the background go for it bring them up awesome okay so I'll bring up some people and then uh Jake maybe if you want to uh you know call on people or however you like to do it I know you're pretty good about that and also guys like Jake says this a lot and I agree is like try to keep your stuff short we you know I know everybody's got their stories and wants to be heard but but um I do want to go get some dinner tonight so let's try to just keep your your points pretty short we'll answer any questions you guys want Etc so I guess Brant go ahead Jake I'll let you oh no go ahead I was just gonna say I know you said something about olrick um earlier um he's been having his hand up for a while he's been waiting a long time so uh let's go to him hey what's up guys I'm on on my airpods I hope you guys can hear me it's pretty quiet oh really one second no problem uh is this any better much better way better yeah uh Jake Ashton Jenny it's awesome you're you're holding the space um I I really do believe that uh there's some lwh hanging fruit in the failures of Institutions so I think there's lwh hanging fruit in government because government has been lying to us and I think a new route for trust is to be bold and expose people for their fraud so I think rather than looking to earn people's trust by giving them a new truth I think anybody who can really prove a lie expose fraud whether you're running for political office or or anything else I think being bold in the exposure of Lies um is is the new trust uh of of 2024 I also think that for me personally disclosure has to be catastrophic if you're not uncovering any certain lie um then nothing that was really hidden uh there was nothing that really needs to be disclosed in the first place if Biden Wheels out the alien bodies and says hey we made contracts we let people get abducted we lied to you we even killed some people to keep them silent um and we lost the keys to the UFO we accidentally handed them to our own contractors and now they have more power than we do we don't want to tell you that because it's embarrassing to say that we're no longer even in charge of our own country then I will believe him right and so that that's the that's the condition where that's the new trust if you're willing to to reveal your own fuckups or somebody else's um then last thing I'd say that you know I think and this is me you know I've I'm branding myself as as Doomer Daddy on the UFO streets but I think we all feel something big is is coming and I'm thinking a lot that maybe we have to choose World War I in order to avoid World War III I think no nobody here wants to actually fight stupid Wars and lose human lives uh for problems that we should already have solved a hundred years ago and I think something really big is at stake and it's no longer even a question possibly about maturity um we may need uh this Advanced Tech and this Advanced propulsion for our own self-defense um against whoever knows what's coming there might not even be time to mature the human race spiritually because as Jake said the Psychopaths actually already have the weapons we might just need to force them in the hands of six and seveny olds so that we can all defend ourselves and I mean that metaphorically right but that might be actually what's coming right here um and it might not even be the US military who has these weapons I think in fact the US military is no longer the strongest force that's me well really quick I have a question for you so if what you're saying is true then would not the Ultimate Weapon be teaching people their true intrinsic spiritual capabilities basically turning people into like a warrior monk of sorts from childhood like really creating a very real education system creating a very real information system like something like the Mocking Bird media except instead of dispensing lies and falsehoods is actually dispensing truth and and helping them to understand reality because if the planet is filled with Enlighten Souls that have spiritual capabilities Beyond most people's wildest imaginings and then that ends up Shifting the collective Consciousness then these weapons I mean they're they're nothing compared to the will of the masses let alone the will of an extremely enlightened individual do you see what I'm trying to say yeah yeah I I do I do J and I think you know you and I what you don't know is we share a love for Shamanism and if you deal with really good Shaman you know that shamans have to recognize real evil and have to sometimes go to war but it's for the sake of maximizing the the spiritual Virtues Of of men and women um there's there's no avoiding facing Darkness we really want to protect what's good so I I resonate with all of them you also at a young age Jake like you're saying you teach people to be able to discern the truth from falsities as well as you know provide and that I think that that is one of the keys to combating this is to educate people we know with all kinds of things at a really young age I'm talking kindergarten because if you're told this as a baby as a mother of raising quite a few children you know if we were told this at a young age we'd naturally develop those things so these Technologies in AI should be used to enhance our innate abilities just to discern and have confidence in our decisions well and it's like what um Julian Assange said that if Wars can be started because of Lies then peace can be started because of Truth well said well said guys both of you guys have really good uh insights uh let's go to some other hands too because I want to try to get to everybody we can if we can't get to you guys I apologize but we'll try okay then do you want to go over to uh who Mr Cotter or I mean because people put your hands up so we can have some sort of order here yeah M down for chaos and Jenny um guys thanks for doing this as you know Jake and Jenny you know I've been following you guys for a while Ashton I've been following you recently love what you guys are doing um my question isn't if it's not on it's obviously about the whole topic but if if it's a big can of worms please let me know um the false flag you know what the government um over history of time has made the uh the the per aliens bad right or extraterrestrials bad when I know in my heart that's not the truth um and you know they they may do a false flag to have a fake attack to have us scared [ __ ] in our pants um and I just wanted to see what you guys thought about that if you have any thoughts yeah I'll jump in first on this because um my view on it is that we shouldn't believe them either way but we should try to verify what they say against the evidence kind of like what rri was just saying I think he brought up a good point which is it's not necessarily just that if if Joe Biden brings out the alien bodies I'm going to automatically disagree it's I'm going to take exactly what he's saying and then I'm going to compare it to what you know we've kind of uncovered right so if you were to come out and say oh yeah we've been hiding the information we've been killing people and we gave the information to the third party contractors now they've got a breakway civilization we can't control like then I would potentially believe it right so if they come out and they say oh the aliens are here they're going to attack us they're going to harm us whatever and they don't give us any other like point of views then I don't think we should believe that in general but if they were to come out and you know we were to see some alien crafts down come fly down and Destroy homes or do something like that then you know we can come to our own conclusions on and I'm just you being hypothetical here but that's my personal opinion is that either way we shouldn't assume that they're here to love us we shouldn't assume that they're here to hate us uh we should just verify based on the evidence of whatever happens hey Ashton when you said that I'm thinking of the ex canadi or excuse me Canadian defense minister okay that he's already said that we've got aliens for a long time he said that in front of a disclosure event this is a expounding fantastic military career as the head of Canadian defense okay so he no problems in his past in his career and he said disclosure of multiple different types of you know aliens as well as him having to be deployed to create a landing pad and the US government is entrenched with these beings as well as the isra space command defense guy who after his career he comes out and says that yes there are aliens and Trump knows about it these are National military leaders so then we go in with false flags and and you know false information what a cluster you know what it's interesting isn't it yeah in my personal views I don't know if there are I mean the way I think it's pretty logical to assume that if we've got this kind of just crazy advanced technology that we probably got some help in order to get there right we found a craft or something I don't really know the nature of exactly how but I think there is some possibility extensive history yes that's it and that that what we deal with now is gladio which is a nationwide paramilitary group that is directly you know entrenched with some of these old folklore we hear about you know Nazis being exposed to Advanced Technology so I'm just putting that in there there's so many different you know things that are starting to reflect now as appropriately right here right now well really quick I I want to throw something in there if you don't mind I think that first of all we need to remember whenever these people get into deep water they bring out the aliens whether it be Jeffrey Epstein's list getting released and then lo and behold there's aliens in Miami or Hunter Biden is getting indicted lo and behold they found mummified aliens in Mexico how about that you know like then they did that whole other thing I think it I forgot what exactly they were trying to cover up but then when there was that thing in Vegas where there was that downed alien craft and there was the family that ran into the aliens in their back yard Mex yeah too well so my point is this anytime they get into deep water they pull out aliens okay so if we look into things like Operation Blue beam then we can really start to understand or Project Blue beam we can start to understand how it is that something like alien uh craft can easily be a hologram if you guys have seen the movie uh Spider-Man um far from home where all of these drones are creating this like projection that and the drones themselves are weaponized to actually do physical destruction in the real world but it looks like this projection this thing that this hologram that is being created by the drones that it looks like that is the one that's doing the destruction so like if we see quote unquote alien craft coming in destroying a city and then the government steps forward and says in order order for the humanity to be safe then we have to lock everybody down and we're going to start chipping everybody and blah blah blah blah blah then we know what's what's going on similar to how what was being said earlier about how like if Biden came forward and or anybody came forward and said yeah there's a breakaway civilization we lost the keys to the craft that were create that were government issued money to this Corporation to create there's a breakaway civilization they they went rogue they've killed people we don't know what the [ __ ] to do then you know okay well that sounds a little more accurate whereas if they came forward and said aliens and you got to give us all the power in the world then we know okay clearly you're you're you have ulterior motives here right right and the last thing I want to say too and thank you for that explanation that really clarified things in my head um is you know if we reverse engineered a lot of this technology from down crafts or however we did it uh and with a black group that no one knows about undercover above the CIA that you know our president does even know about or maybe they're learning about I truly believe from what I've read and learned and what I feel in my heart that if that those extra civilizations wanted to wipe out planet Earth they could press a button and wipe us out and because if we are scratched to the surface of that technology that we reverse engineered imagine what they have and they haven't done that yet you know and I don't think they intend to do it so I brought the question up because I kind of know the answer but you guys really clarified it for me but for the audience here is we have to be educated ourselves like what you said between what's false and what's real and what the what the what the objective is based upon what our government telling us and it's you know is it compar comparable to covid and the last thing I want to say to Jake and Jenny and Jake um and Ashton you know I've been on a few smaller uh UFO spaces I'm watching people tweet at each other it seems very clicky what we have to do as a community here on Twitter is not not throw blame to other people oh this person's a grifter or this person's That We're All in This Together everybody needs to chill out have some fun with this and and let's make sense of it all together as a community that's all I want to say thank you yeah well and let's and let's think critically I think that's not reacting emotionally I also think is really important I just want to make sure that that is out there because a lot of people are reacting emotionally based on these aliens in Miami if if it's all over social media then you should probably think a little bit more deeply about what exactly is being said because I promise you the they have cyber weapons to ensure that something is viral or that it never sees the light of day so if it's getting out there in Mass you got to ask yourself why yeah and the one thing I say too is that it seems logical that you could say that okay they they if we got this technology from somewhere else they would be far more advanced than us and that we would have no chance which then you'd say okay if we haven't been destroyed yet then they could be B benevolent or benevolent but at the same time you may say there's a lot of possibilities guys and that's why I don't think we should be assuming any one thing at all we could be living in a prison planet where if we reach a certain level they just show up and wipe us out it could be a situation too where um we are them and that we are just like actually like we're the aliens and that we were just we stranded on this planet like like Australia and the convicts or something like that there's so many possibilities it could even be some sort of extradimensional thing going on right so let's keep our minds open let's not call certain people like like you said grifters that believe one thing or another thing let's just compare it to the evidence all right so let's move on um I know that I know that you said you wanted to eat and I gotta get going to the gym here soon so um let's go to um I guess we'll go to you know what let's go to money Penny really quick I know that you guys kind of have been working together at least a little bit from what I understand stand let's let's hear what she has to say and then we'll go to uh Prometheus then love then uh is it Eli it's Ellie Ellie Ellie okay go ahead money Penny I knew you were gonna do that I was in the middle of sending a hilarious joke I'm watching Ashton on YouTube in stitches listening to you about the the fake ghost button I I can just imagine it it's bloody brilliant what you're doing um it's like Kim Jong Y young with his green button on his nuke thing uh 10 years ago when had his Lego set out um but it was just an awesome allergy that you see you said there the minute something goes [ __ ] to you know [ __ ] up the trolley um they hit the alien button in the CIA FBI and shoot out some you know journalists to go and spread some horrid rumors um spot on just brilliant stuff um do you know the the unfortunate thing about this well I mean there's many unfortunate things about you know the corruption that we all live with today and that unfortunately is growing by the minute um is that when we look back at the wars of the world the wars that have killed people even the Iraq War which many people would still today say oh weapons of mass destruction all that sort of lot it was nothing to do with weapons of mass destruction all these all these wars first world war oil because oil for the first time played a role when they had oil tankers that could uh travel faster on the other side and the Allies won the war based on oil second world war oil oil in again became the source of energy the repeated um resource that everybody wanted it was all about bargaining paying making money oil exploiting it and the biggest worry is you know Iraq was a was an a fight you know the US and UK went in there to control the Iraqi oil fields and to make sure that they had the Middle Eastern Oil laid down sewed down to make sure that their military would be powered by oil it was all about oil it will all be about you know power the whole of the Malaysian drama the biggest world's largest financial scandal in Malaysia was all down to Petronas and the Big Oil companies and that is pretty much what is driving everything so if we bring out as we are now discovering this hidden bloody free energy source from you know reliable witnesses that Ashton myself you and many others have now had it uh fairly certain that it is being hidden and there is a new energy source that does not require oil and all the things we are used to paying for you can see how desperately terrified UAP disclosure people will be to stop us getting at this it really is pretty crucial it's a fantastic room thank you so much thanks Mony Penney appreciate it yeah I think that he really puts it in in scope and in scale in terms of what we're really dealing with here and that's why I like talking about the implications of Technology why we had to build up to the point too now then we can figure out okay how do we get it out because it's not as simple and I think that when we look at these I like to call them the UFO disclosure celebrities I do kind of Wonder do they know the implications I think some of them do some of them probably don't and I think then then we can look at what they're doing through that lens which I think is really important that way we can uh get away from this idea of just trying to tear everybody down which I see all over the place okay hey Aston too while you're working with this technology it'd be interesting to look at the ancient religious Hindu texts to compare some of the activities there with you know the things that we see today seeing that there are representations of weapons and you know different technology within those and that's not just some ancient an BS I mean that's real I mean it's really there you could read about it it'd be interesting to see you know how ancient this technology is seeings that you know we notice massive Technologies with pyramids and electric you you know what I'm saying I think that that'd be some hidden gems yeah we'll do I think there's a big aspect to the ancient side of it that I'm very curious about there's a lot of connections to some of that stuff and I'm big into anthropology and archaeology too so I I may look into some of that thanks trenny so who's next on the list uh uh let's go over to I believe it's Prometheus and then love hey guys thanks for having me back up I I actually didn't want to leave the space like it uh kicks me out sometimes like go figure but um yeah like uh I I just wanted to briefly say first and foremost guys if you're listening to this please make sure you retweet it okay there are thousands and thousands of people who have absolutely zero idea about half the stuff that we've discussed here tonight okay Jake has some fantastic resources as usual as does Ashton um you know and Jenny so just please do us a favor and put this out there this is this is how we're organically going to put the word out you know um it's it's the only way disclosure really happens I wanted to bring it back to just us here and now what it is we can do and um moving forward forward all right so the first thing to note is that even with these incredibly Advanced civilizations in the past okay whether it you you look at you know the ancient Egyptians or in India with these incredible temples you know that were built out of granite stone with laser Precision whatever else um all these Advanced civilizations guess what folks For Better or For Worse they are no longer here or if they are here they are hidden okay and why is this important it speaks to the easy danger and the and the and the vulnerability that we actually possess uh well we don't possess as such we're in right if if if we aren't careful with with these you know big toys we're playing around with that J Jake was mentioning right we need to have this higher order spiritual Evolution to to come into contact truly with with these things and I and this is also where I believe I have some hope in in some regard as well and here's why I I say that um as someone like Jake uh who studied Consciousness quite deeply and not just studied it but actually you know like put in tens of thousands of hours of practice at this point um of meditation and inquiry and looking into the nature of Consciousness first and foremost I believe our own consciousnesses are Stargates or black holes or singularities in a sense because go deep enough within this I am frame and you actually have access to Z Point uh energy you actually have access to the akashic records you actually have access to you know the people resources tool so the the the first and most important thing if there's anything you take away from tonight's conversation get to know who you truly are who you already are okay you are a magnificent technology Beyond Comprehension all right um and and and you know that word doesn't even cover what what you truly are and as fractal expressions of The Great I Am energy we're all here and we're all being gathered together in my view for a Divine Purpose um the good book uh you know the Bible I you know say what you will about it I believe that there's some profound truths there and I believe that a lot of the data points that the ancient prophets spoke about they're all coming into fruition right now okay um all these before all all these things shall happen before this generation passes away we are that generation folks okay we are that gener generation prior to this you know prophesized Millennial Reign that is coming up and so you know like I can I can go into all the data points you know Nation rising up against the Nations earthquakes the increase of knowledge Daniel you know like but study this stuff for yourself anyone who studies that for themselves cannot help but walk away and think how is it all these different prophets at all these different times and societies keep talking about this time period in which you and I are alive right now listening to these words and the words of Ashton Jacob and everybody else you know like this we are here for a Divine Purpose and I believe this time it is going to be a wiser iteration of humanity that does you know take on the Technologies of time travel and Zero Point Energy and all these things that we're playing around with right now and actually move ahead with some Grace rather than you know just fumbling the ball every time I'm not saying it's not going to be messy cuz we are dealing with Psychopaths at the highest order but this High Vibe crowd that's here right now right here right now in this space and Beyond folks we are the ones we are looking for as cliche as that is we we we got to stop externalizing you know the power and recognize who's here how how it is we're being divinely guided and and per you know um appreciate you but I want to can you wrap it up because I want to try to get out of here and I a lot more hands to get to so I I messages sorry just I get real passionate about this stuff the last thing I'm going to say is that I am going to launch like I said a solution for everybody to access um you know these perpetual energy machines and and you know linking up with Bitcoin Miners and whatnot so you know just keep an eye out for that and turn on notifications for for all the speakers here and keep spreading the love look this is this how we win don't don't live in fear um yeah I I've said what I needed to say thanks guys thanks ber appreciate you and I think you know the big point there is that yeah we have a chance here where we can raise a level of Consciousness in a significant way and that we can get this technology out and hopefully get it out in a safe way uh where we can use it intelligently to make our civilization better um love I think you are next hi Jake how are you hey Jenny um sorry mind don't mind me I'm uh nursing a cold right now and my voice is like barely coming back but um I hope you guys can hear me okay um so many points have been spoken of but like you know the questions are there right the disclosure so you know I'm going to make it rhetorical right like so who is going to disclose this information and who's going to be right and because at this point we're going to go into a you know we're going to be self-governed right we're going to get rid of these people that are governing over us right so like who's to say who is gonna you know say who does what with what right so um you know like are we going to have another person govering over over us and and who is going to be in charge of disclosing this information and and the um well we're in charge right now of disclosing the information but who's going to be in charge of disclosing these Technologies who's going to have it in their hands right when these people it's only going to happen when these people are gone um another thing right like what if we are the quantum you know we can already like Prometheus was saying we're already telepathic I think they have replaced us like you said Prometheus that are the technology within us we are the quantum we are the technology they've replaced us with these devices with all these things with you know these are things that we can already do um but um you know Jake I got to tell you I love your rant and I can listen to you all day and I feel like you know exactly what's going on um you know just trying to wrap this up I know you guys want to go but you know that right just that like we're gonna be self-governing right so that's the thing and then you know when we do come to a point where disclosure has happened okay and we've had that spiritual you know Ascension to where you know and we have that abundance let's say right so you know I I don't think people are going to want to be malicious I don't think you know people are going to want to steal people are going to want to harm anybody you know I don't think that energy is going to exist you know um and like who knows what's going to happen to those people that haven't Advanced to the majority of the population's level to where they're still living in fear they still want to do harm they still have malicious thoughts right what's going to happen to that small small small percentage of people that's going to be left with those thoughts and um you know again it's the people right it's not the technology right um but yeah that's all I can come up with here now so many things have been said um I should have uh made notes Oh no you're fine it was very important I think there's a big Paradigm Shift coming up right and that's what you're getting at is how do we address this turmoil that may come up when people realize that they've been lied to um versus the people that have had their eyes awake or been wide awake and and know this stuff is coming right and that's that's really I think part of what talking about it's all about and hopefully we'll have more spaces in the future where we talk about it um so I think I we're probably not going to be able to get to people who already been already been able to speak I think we'll just go to Ellie George and potentially I saw may love jump up uh she's somebody I really admire so Ellie let's start with you all right thanks for letting me speak um yeah love kind of just said it uh she just said hello can you hear me yeah can you guys hear me uh yeah sorry we're going with Ellie first and then George I think go ahead okay yeah love just said how you know are we gonna be self-governing in the future and you know you guys were saying how we're we're already held hostage by the technocrats but I just believe they're going to get absorbed into the AI and just go to that Quantum plane of Hell while we have dominion over the Earth and these Technologies and what happens is after a certain point think everyone just evolves spiritually so if you're in the back of the class you're going to see everyone else growing and in your mind you're just going to wake up overnight because I don't know if you heard of that um that experiment with those monkeys and like their their Consciousness after a certain percent of them had like a higher Awakening uh so I think that's what's going to happen with us and there won't be any more evil there won't be any crime no more people trying to hurt others because also we're going post scarcity and the source of lot of the evil right now it's multi-generational it's a cycle it's from our scarcity and being traumatized when we're younger so when we create that that better world and we're raising kids that are no longer experiencing all these traumas they're growing up to be better people so the evil dies with the last evil men that die in this generation in our lifetimes so I think we do have that ultimate future ahead of us and we are going to share something very very special thank you very much Ellie I think that's uh really nice words in terms of you know looking at the Outlook in a positive lens I think that that's what we all kind of need to do and I think something that Jake would say too is that our Collective Consciousness can shape our reality so if we think about positive outcomes then that can potentially lead to positive outcomes um that's awesome George did you have a thought I know you've been for a long time oh sorry go ahead one more thing yeah I just want to toss one more thing I read something back in 2021 that kind of gave me that interpretation it was called Utopia 2030 and it was the blueprints for how we can create that more utopic future with our technology and I'd recommend you guys to get the free ebook at Utopia 2030. thanks Ellie George go ahead I know you were trying to get your hand some thoughts in there for a while no all I'm sorry I had some connectivity problems um as Ashton knows I want to thank you all for this has been a wonderful uh space just like the one that Ashton did recently on um his retirement from the uh Airline issue um but it's just wonderful to hear everybody's perspective and so many intelligent and wonderful people with good attitudes and and open minds it's really it's really I never thought I would see anything like this in my lifetime I've been following these issues for my whole life I'm in my 50s and and uh it's only in the last few years that these things are now mainstream and they're able to be talked about and there's so many people who are uh you know Awakening to them and it's really wonderful to hear uh as Ashton knows I am a uh I'm a researcher I gave up my career as a lawyer to start researching into uh anti-gravity issues and I've been doing that for about five years now and I do it full-time because the prospect of what I was seeing um I I couldn't really live with myself if I didn't work on what I thought was incredibly important uh and and for the future of humanity the I mean I don't know how you can bear your head in the sand with these issues but um I one of the things that I heard about uh people talk uh about these issues today was the idea of like we don't know and as Ashton said with the with the airline issue once you prove the LIE then that's where you start you know it's that the official story that whatever it is is is is a lie you don't necessarily know everything out be after that is is speculation but you know that that this is the lie and I think that's true for this issue as well is we know that this system that we live in that this world the the the levels of technology that exist but are suppressed uh the nature of the governments and the intelligence agencies that that spread disinformation and so dissension everywhere we know that's all real we know that this this system that we're living in with regard to this issue particularly is a lie so where does that leave us uh I believe the most plausible explanation is that we're not the Apex Intelligence on in let's just say this planet we're not we're somewhere probably in the middle and if we're in the middle then that what is that are we in a prison are are we in a nursery being raised to emotional spiritual maturity well from my perspective my belief is that the difference between a prison and a Game Preserve and a nursery is really just a matter of perspective and the all we can do is to try to strive to advance all the ancient religions every an religion in the world is all about uh you you don't do harm but Ascend get off the wheel transcend and the only way I can think of to transcend is to literally get off the Rock and so that's what I'm working on and if that gets turned into a weapon then it's probably happened a thousand times already but we have to ascend that's all we can do about mov uh no that but I I agree with you the Matrix is a good uh We've quoting a lot of movies uh I think another good one to point out would be Planet of the Apes um the recent remakes of them are very underrated uh the only issue is that we're the Apes we're the we're the monkeys in the cage we're the people in The Game Preserve we're the ones being experimented on we are the uh the inferior species that is not believed to be fit for uh technology and uh only by uh um uh getting out uh and trying to be better is the only way out either that or we're just going to live in this Game Preserve I mean let's be charitable and just say it's a nursery and it's about growing you know in the Hindu or the or viic tradition of of of the karmic wheel that it's about ascending well this is it this is all we can do uh what else can we do lives we have to wrap things up the H um has a prophecy on a stone in in Arizona and there's two paths One path is um you know technology is what they think and one is not what I would challenge everyone to think about is that as we have this social construct on this planet that is foreign if you really look at roads buildings you know different materials Plastics these are not things that were found in the beginning not something native to Earth I would challenge that there's two paths One path is within there is ancient TR Traditions as well as CIA documents saying that we can look at things to a a a blueprint level small print to see fine as well as the collapse of matter with observance and the double slit experiment these are all things that the human consciousness which we haven't even fully understood yet is capable of so if I was to see two paths one that involves me you know doing ancient traditions of meditation as well as going Within Myself for Technologies I would take that path I think that constructing an outward reality that's not based on what exists is actually a shortcut and that we may actually be able to do things much better at a technology that we're naturally aware of so I would challenge that we are not technologically sound enough for for technology I would say technology would actually drain what we naturally have I agree it atrophies our capabilities um I know I know that sucks what I'm saying I'm sorry maybe I can't hear Jake because it's is Speak oh yeah I think you probably can't hear him so yeah M love do you have any quick last thoughts and then I think we have to close out the space um if anyone else we didn't get to I apologize you know next time we will uh get to you and thank you guys for being here am love do you have any last thoughts thanks for coming up sure well I just um kind of caught the tail end of it I'll make it less than a minute because I know you guys want to go but um I think that it's really about balance right it's it's just being able to embrace change and advancement because that's the way that we're going and I think it's a beautiful thing but also remaining grounded and being coherent with nature and also as as you know I think that one of the major points of this Mass critical Awakening is unpinning all of the self-limiting beliefs that we've been indoctrinated into and conditioned into believing and it's just a part of like moving into that self-realization I am optimistic about the future I know that there's a lot of um things coming our way a lot of fearmongering that's been happening and I I understand that there there are um you know I would say there is this like there it's a hero's journey I mean there is this um group that wants to get um you know all of the Power that's centralized into one location and I mean whatever those Ambitions and dreams are it's it's our belief in them that would bring it to fruition and so I think you know it's it's a very uh exciting times and I do think that we are he brought up the hundredth monkey effect which I agree I do think that at some point there is that Collective um conscious the power that's within it has been untapped and so I don't want to go on too long I did have a lot to say I love all of Jake spaces um I'm glad I got to catch you know you and Ashton together and thanks for bringing me up and um yeah I'll hopefully I'll catch the next one earlier awesome thanks ma love yeah so my final thoughts are are once again I am definitely asserting that there is advanced technology that is basically beyond our wireless dreams that mainstream Academia would think to be potentially fake that is really hard for people who uh you know watch a lot of cable news and cable TV to really believe but it is out there and it's actually a lot easier to cover up than you would think and that was the whole point of having this space is that we can get it out there we can talk about it we can move the needle forward even if we wake up one person I think that this would have been worthwhile uh I love talking with Jake um he's one of my favorite people that I've run across on all of social media thank you very much Jake for uh doing this space with me greatly appreciate you man everybody should vote for you for congress because we can make a difference and I love your grassroot movement that you are developing um related to your run for Congress so thank you very much thank you Ashton it's been my pleasure and anytime you want to do this I totally down to do it again um I'm sorry that we have to cut things short you guys but Ashton's got to get food I got to go to the gym um we also want to keep this short so that you guys can share it out there and this information can get to as many people as possible so thank you guys for your time and attention very very very quickly I just want to put it out there guys I'm going to do a follow-up space for everyone who wants to continue on the discussion so just come on over uh to that one but again huge thank you to yourself and Ashton this has been a Quality quality room cannot wait for the next one thank you Prometheus and yeah and if you guys want to continue the discussion feel free to go to his space much love everybody Namaste okay chat that was awesome uh the spaces with Jake are amazing uh I love doing those uh I love that it triggers people as well because there's no way you can listen to this guy and think that he is some kind of Traitor or a violent person or anything like that so this was awesome if you guys want to catch the next one I'm going to join the Skyfire news thing address some of the drama that's going on around there based on the stuff that I said yesterday um and based on stuff that people are putting out there so uh come join that one if you want a little bit of fun I'm