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# Ashton & Adrian X Space Discussion malan 370 Contact 120m 9 night 37 breaking news tonight A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board including four Americans has gone missing [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita Vishnu is trying to persuade the prin that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says now I am become de the destroyer of [Music] worlds yo yo everybody Welcome to the stream tonight I'm your host Ashen Forbes and tonight very special stream we are going going to be talking to Adrien dipman the uh person that everybody believes is Elon Musk so I'm excited to talk to him just FYI that is not going to happen for another 45 minutes so buckle up because we're gonna look we're gonna pregame a little bit I gotta show you guys excuse me one sec this is Water by the way I know you guys care about my health so Ken's shoulders I was looking back through some of my old 100 tabs that I have out there and I was looking at the one about Ken shoulders research like this guy that researched Ken's shoulders did so much work like wow he did a lot of work also real quick before we get into Ken shoulder stuff thank you guys everybody in the chat make America great again make America healthy again congratulations Donald Trump next president anyway people will get over it but Donald Trump represents our best chance of getting disclosure if you thought that I was trolling too much before get ready I'm going to be trolling even harder now that Trump won why because we have an actual chance to make a difference we basically just have to get noticed the evidence checks out the science checks out we just need to get noticed we need someone powerful enough that's on the outside to wake up and it might be Elon Musk could be somebody else as well but could be Elon Musk so the trolling will will be big it will be very bigly and yes we are you know what I decided something as well I wasn't sure if I was going to say this but I think full disclosure is better I'm just going to lean in on the political stuff which will be perceived as being supportive of trump which is fine which is fine I'm gonna be critical of Donald Trump as a president and the administration unless they are taking Zero Point Energy Research seriously simple as that because that's disclosure we get that we get closure end of the discussion uh I'm just going to lean into the political stuff honestly because here's the reason what we're talking about cold fusion Zero Point Energy it legitimately is connected to the Department of energy the whole UFO phenomenon why is the UFO phenomenon connected to the Department of energy same question we are going to go back to on every stream guys what is making this UFO float that's the question that what is the energy source for this whatever that is obsoletes everything that we've got that's out there that's the question we're going to force so we are going to go all in on the political thing this is a political issue free energy for the world is a political issue I mean you can see how it's a iCal issue the implications are bigger than just America there are questions on what is our society if we have just abundance of everything that may be decades down the road but those are discussions that would start to have to happen and how do we distribute this without destroying ourselves so real these are political questions they're really political questions at the end of the day so I'm going to jump into it and the other reason is because as I posted on my Twitter earlier today the other side literally is like all left Wingers and they're all connected one another and this means they're like NPCs they have these weird like contradictory thoughts in their head that like the government is hiding aliens from the world but if we just ask them really nicely they'll like tell us that they've been committing this Mass conspiracy and potentially murdering people for decades what kind of weird fantasy world are these people living in so we're just going to draw the line and be like okay fine I'm on team Trump he's in the administration office right now he's somebody who can make a difference we have control over all three branches of government we can just pass anything that we want we can make a difference and I know how science physics engineering salvator P's patents stuff like that we can get that legitim legii uh uh if we can get it validated confirmed that those experiments happen that those patents are really real and that they've actually been produced experimentally not just theoretically if we can get something like that I frequency gravitational wave generator inertial Mass reduction these are things that are going to trigger people going to trigger trigger physicist well we don't that's not conventionally possible to do that right legitimized yeah I think that was right okay um great question here from this and that just think they would share that with us the question is this how can they stop us how can they stop us end of the day we spread the information we all win this is why I shared the Richard finman video earlier I I wish it was like only two minutes long I'm not going to play the whole thing it's like five minutes long and that was my edited version but basically he's saying you can't understand something to be real unless you understand the concepts behind what makes it possible and to show how we take things for granted that we don't fully understand all the time he points out like nobody asks why like my hand doesn't just go right through this microphone when at the end of the day all we are is energy so why can't I go right through that end of the day most of what I am is empty space most of it like 95 99% empty space nobody asks those questions so when people ask things like what is magnetism the thing is it's based on whatever your theoretical construct understanding of the universe is this reality that we're in okay so tomorrow my Hodge twins podcast or Friday sorry Friday Hodge twins podcast dropped it's going to be really good uh let's just watch the I want to watch the intro for it real quick guys because we got a few extra minutes one sec so good we got okay chat here we go so people ask me how do I think it went we got what's up hod twins how you guys doing I mean you look smart you got to be looking smart when you're talking about teleporting airplanes and confusion right okay so Malaysia Airlines like 370 plan's flying and [ __ ] disappears right yeah just completely disappears off the face of the Earth and these orbs spinning around it here you see that zap just happen like anyone that looks at this right away they go what are you saying that aliens zap the plane away right here because it's just so anomalous yeah everything's gone when when you mentioned the term orb what is an orb because it looks like a sphere of energy when we look at these videos when you see this field around these orbs this heat signature you can tell right away that we're not looking at like a metallic structure sorry what the hell is that yeah so what we're looking at right here is a worm B extremely cold yeah this is an endothermic event an exothermic event would be an explosion so if this was an explosion we'd expect to see white hot this is an absorption of energy as opposed to a release of energy right is there any chance that the people that was on this flight are they alive or I think the whole thing was a covert event the question you have to ask is who was on that plane uh a paper that he wrote for the Air Force research Labs called teleportation physics study 2004 teleportation teleportation physics study is that the uh technology Tesla was working on yeah so Tesla had figured out free energy and JP Morgan like the JP Morgan like Nick it this is Nicolai Tesla yeah and apparently Edison as well was like his competitor and these guys made a ton of money off of selling energy to people and they're ripping people off I know that controlling people yeah and it's the people that left the ones that are like super close-minded about it like no that's not possible I wasn't taught that that can't be real yeah you conspiracy theorist they love to pay me with that one they tried to pay me with that one they're going to find out that they're wrong and it's just a matter of time and the more pigheaded and ignorant they are the more foolish they're going to look their whole gimmick is that they lean into the fact that like they all like stereotypes Southern stereotypes African-American stereotypes stereotypes of conservatives all stereotypes and I love it they were really fun to hang out with guys uh and that was a few weeks ago but whatever I don't really care a lot of people wait to post their videos because they're you know busy they' got schedules whatever um I've got another one coming up soon as well which is why I don't know how long I'm G be able to talk to Adrian tonight at most like probably one hour probably tell I'm really tired it's been super busy people ask how am I able to do all this or whatever well I take some time off work uh schedule it in advance and the other answer is barely barely it's not easy okay [Music] um here's a paper by Ken shoulders now we are the change since you donated you tell me if there's any chapters you want us to look at as you can see it's 258 pages so this guy that did this research he scanned all this stuff in person like not that long ago either only a few years ago he scanned it all in person and then now this is how we have this otherwise no one will even see this this is basically Ken shoulders 1987 this is when he wrote this and it's basically like his Memoir about discovering evos exotic vacuum objects basically the balls of plasma in the MH370 videos like I'm pretty sure that Ken shoulders would claim like he's one of the first people to figure out of the modern time to figure out that these orbs here that's that's called Fusion that's called Fusion happening there that you can see the electron separation and this Vortex that's being created by them not just necessarily them coming together but like the Heat Signature inside of them like is that's just proof of a magnetic monopo okay so let's bring this back up okay I'll show you the chapters to we are the change because you donated twice okay so here are the chapters and if you read it out it's kind of like I I like how it's spelled out it's a lot of chapters like he's just basically putting his thoughts out there where we began the people preliminary efforts looking for a project changing course supporting structure the facilities the apparatus the staff the move to Austin beginning the EV project a driving thought a method of attack physical attack Revelation uh am I going to read all these no too many so what I'm gonna do instead is this I'm GNA show you some that I already found oh he uh let's go check on page 35 first we can check that out so what I was going to go to right away was that this talks about when PUD off and Ken shoulders first met and they didn't they didn't have just a random relationship like they were working together on this with a third guy named Bill church and he was the money guy literally Church's Chicken I don't know if people live in the south or the Midwest they've got Church's chickens like one of the most popular like chicken like fried chicken uh to go places and he was apparently funding and he'd been working with halud off for years before this it's really interesting the details in here yeah Jamal thank you for appreciating and understanding the magnitude of this discovery Jamal everybody else shame on you for not being as excited as Jamal okay page 35 we'll check out page 35 I don't even know where the page numbers are when you say 35 it's not very clear what that means so um this and that check out tell me what you mean when you say 35 because the the pages aren't numbered like that you mean three- five anyway while we're doing that I'm G to show you if you just search for PUD off you see that Poff was one of the first few people Ed May Hal PUD off the author and the founder of uh Jupiter Technologies Bill church so the the guy that ran Church's Chicken was the founder of this Jupiter's technology which there was also Jupiter toy company maybe that was what the company the same company I don't know you guys want the link to this yeah okay I'll try to remember to put this in the in the details dud for people that want to see this for yourself highly recommend you check this out because this is wild when I scroll does it show me no I don't see Pages oh okay I see maybe I can go to Pages up here hold on how do I do this okay um we'll go to 35 now see if this works uh the main attack in this encounter is use eveve source to trigger another and still have something left over from the first eeve to become the target for the Collision experiment using the Clone delayed in time as a bullet after all these were just fierce bundles of charge and could be handled like mere ordinary Electronics if one cranked in enough constants to offset their brashness easier said than done I tried a lot of Dopey things that seemed reasonable at the time but the combination of poor generation technique and poor measuring technique kept me out of the Pico second domain so is he saying that if we had Pico second lasers he could have figured it out could have made it better how how long ago did we discover Pico second lasers that if so that's wild because now ad second lasers right one of the big Clues we got was that the second laser discover of the 2023 Nobel Prize is the ad second laser the faster your laser is the more energy there is literally like this is like exactly what you want to trigger a fusion reaction you're trying to make your electromagnetic energy and waves in the smallest possible period like the you want the tiniest things to hit one another perfectly wow that's crazy okay that's what you want me to see sounds good H uh yes we can't do every page but if I do PUD off and look up his second his second thing he basically explains the history I went to visit a friend of mine at SRI and also to seek an audition with researcher Hal POF he was the director of the ESP program in the time so this is in the late 70s he wanted to find something really nuts to work on how was basically trying to figure out what was nonsense and what was real so Poff knew Ken's shoulders a little bit beforehand as well he just knew of him basically what Ken shoulders is saying is that he didn't know that PUD off was super smart physicist with a major Quantum mechanic Electronics textbook that he had to his credit so POF has a Quantum textbook that has been used to teach other students like that's not a small fee that means he really knows quantum mechanics he also says that he would come up with some Earth shaking Revelations concerning the the foundation of physics we already know what that's going to be so when I was reading this I'm like whoa this okay just to give you guys if you're new or just for full context here when I read that paragraph I got chills sometimes when like I feel like I'm right over the top of something very important I I get this like chilling effect like a sweat sometimes whatever why why was that so important because PUD off's zint energy papers start in 1987 1987 basically says that hydrogen it doesn't radiate energy at the quantum it doesn't radiate any energy because it's in an equilibrium it's losing energy and gaining energy at the same time means that we're sitting in a bathtub of energy that's what he's saying in 1987 and in 1989 he says that this bath of energy explains or adds to the theories of general relativity and explains gravity and then starts to explain basically everything else is wrong in physics this is why halud off is the goat the fact also that he had a close relationship working relationship with Ken's shoulders that now we know about and we know when it start started the late 70s and then this takes it a step further so how introduces him to his his friend Bill Church who is the head of the fast food business Church's Fried Chicken so this is where he learned that bill was the finance year so okay we got the relationship figured out he says one of the biggest surprises they had been collaborating for years on topics with theoretical physics and done this is the interesting part and had done pretty well with some really basic considerations in physics do you guys understand how big that is the fact that this is on the Internet is this is private information about how PUD off's business life this tells us a lot of information and I I don't even I don't even feel that comfortable talking about because another person that I respect so highly so I just want to say like I respect how put off so much that I already sent him an email before this stream asking about some of this and just letting him know like I I I lit told him I'm as a number one fan told him that because I think I am I mean I love you guys as well you might you might appreciate him but I am absolutely convinced based on what I've seen in two military videos that his view of physics is exactly correct and that he must clearly himself have seen it to be as confident as he is as well we'll get to that part though okay but Bill the reason why this is interesting though is that when he says he had done pretty well for himself to me that that context means they've been making money he they're saying they've been making money off some really basic physics Concepts and you're like oh what does that mean well look at his patents look at how put's patents but the other part that's interesting about this and if you don't understand what I'm talking about I don't care I'm going to leave it kind of vague the other interesting part about this is that poff's patent was not published until not requested until 1995 this was written in 1987 we're looking at document from 1987 here what that means is that P was making stuff that he was not patenting and he was selling it privately before 1987 significantly much before 1987 to me this proves Poff is the Godfather he's The Godfather he knows the people in the background he's got a finance here this is like Breaking Bad of UFOs going on right now this is the breaking bad of UFOs he might have like money buried underneath his house or something like this I I should stop talking because I'm joking but like it could actually be right it could actually be right he's the final boss he's the final boss I'm convinced he he looks like you know you know all like passive and he's kind of softspoken but still like pretty assertive about the way he speaks but you know he's he's the one in Disguise like he's the actual secret final boss we got we figured it out okay I mean I just thought that is crazy detail guys maybe that's just me as an investigator but when I read something like that I'm like oh wow I just learned a very big Insight I want to talk to Hal POF about Ken shoulders and evos that's what I want to talk to Hal Poff about can I talk to him will he talk to me I don't know I've asked him graciously and we'll see if we get a response why have I not reached out before this I don't know I kind of was building up an opinion I don't really know who or what to trust in this world but I've identified the final boss and I respect his science so I'm not trying to get him in trouble or anything but at the same time here's the truth I'm not going in with softballs chat chat full screen chat if you've been watching me and my live streams and my interviews you know I'm not going in with softballs like I've opened myself up for challenge whatever people want to bring it bring it I'm going to be asking hard relevant questions that are going to give us more insights as an investigator that's just how I always think same thing I'm gonna be doing with Salvador pasz they can just respond and say they can't talk about it or they don't feel comfortable talking about it that's fine that's fine if they don't feel comfortable talking about it they can just say that and I'm not going to press them or whatever but I am going to ask questions about exotic vacuum objects plasma if they've ever seen it uh what the relationships are to some of these projects and why they're interested in it so much um you know and then I'll just kind of react Bas on the responses but I'm gonna find out what's going on with this UFO stuff right when we wrap a bow on this UFO stuff then we can finally get everybody to be like oh okay yeah United States government stole this airliner we've been stupid of course we could just teleport planes the whole time just teleport ples the whole time all we had to do is use Ken shoulders uh work here on evos like just explains like everything in here uh okay so PUD off more references by the way BTW this part here I maybe I can zoom in this is getting a little a there we go chat okay sorry guys it's better now okay in night again we have dates here like this is guys as an investigator this is when you get giddy this is like private thoughts I mean in public technically right but they felt comfortable writing it most of it's all it's all really good stuff actually but these are the thoughts about a guy who's not with us anymore that we can't ask anymore dates 1981 formal statement declaring a switch over from Theory work to experimental work one of the most significant thoughts he had in 1981 was a paper by Bergstrom in 1973 so in 1981 he was reading a paper by Bergstrom in N from 1973 he said Bergstrom had declared there really was something like an ether yatsi chat are you [ __ ] kidding me YSI that is exactly what I want to read wow Ken shoulders is going I was with halud off we together 1981 this is where the first time Ken's shoulders was thinking that there might be an ether now we can connect Hal pof's theory that must must be closely tied to this date unless Hal POF secretly knew and lied to Ken's shoulders maybe he did maybe he already knew either way the fact that we see other people talking about The Ether being real and them figuring out that it's real it's not even that once you realize it you're like wait yeah it is just real oh why don't they teach this in school oh well because we don't believe in it something about the Michaelson Morley experiment from 1885 1885 they were doing experiments back then yeah yeah great experiments they were doing great experiments back then um and The Ether the reason why they don't experience it is because you're only going to feel experience that in the same direction as the force of gravity because the zero point fluctuations are uh basically inducing this gravitational effect that we feel the same way where if I just rub my hair on the balloon and the balloon goes into the sky because I'm polarizing this I'm taking the electrons off part of the balloon squeezing it and it's GNA rise to the sky or it's G stick to my head whatever it's going to do right it's like why is it sticking to my head now oh why can it defy gravity okay so he got obsessed with that paper like once Ken shoulders saw this paper he got super excited and now he's like holy crap he's like there's an ether we can manipulate the medium because space isn't empty we can actually manipulate the medium and so he probably started thinking about what are ways that I can manipulate it that nobody's really thinking about because now he understands intuitively it's based on electrostatics it's really based on electrostatics and that's where he's talking about even back in 1987 here he knew that Poff actually the fact that this was written in 1987 the same year poff's paper was written he references that paper in this we're going to get get to that in a second so this is like they are discovering in 1987 Americans are discovering in 1987 that the ether is real it is real they probably had some good idea why and that 0 point energy is the next fuel source to me these guys knew there was UFOs out there like they've seen them or they were just 100% convinced one or the other either way they were 100% convinced yeah here he says as it turned out Poff worked to clear up the matter much later and give us another grip on our new world so he's saying that the Bergstrom ideas were great pudol took them and said this is Zero Point Energy I'm a Quantum mechanic physicist and expert like I you know I've written textbooks and takes the idea of The Ether and starts writing the papers that will prove it the first one is that Cal POF knew that the hydrogen atom not radiating at rest was the answer right away he knew there's a simple way to prove it people say build it whatever he's like no no no if you're smart you prove it because we know experimentally that at rest the hydrogen atoms not radiated energy why is heat not coming off of it and the answer is because it's in equilibrium it's losing energy at the same rate that it's gaining energy wow that's a huge Insight once you look at like that you're like oh we're in a sheet of energy everything's exchanging energy with The Ether all the time the magnet that's stuck in my refrigerator right now how is that staying stuck in the refrigerator where's the energy coming from that keeps it stuck on the refrigerator just an interesting thought to think about everybody's wondering how does a magnet work why does it work must be connected to gravity we're seeing a very similar effect electromagnetism is directly connected to Z Point Energy Quantum vacuum that's all around us so Ken's shoulders and halud off no sorry Hal POF figured it out 1987's when they were publishing and they both were obviously aware of each other's work and he's saying like he did not realize how important this discovery would happen so I think that meeting he's talking about is actually 1980 it's kind of hard to follow his his his years so 1980 they they meet and they figure out Zero Point Energy is the answer 1980 crazy right hey Bernie welcome buddy 1980 they figure it out and now Ken shoulders is going on a rampage so Hal pof's the physicist Hal pof's going okay I'm gonna start writing the papers that just prove it he's building a house so he's saying okay hydrogen 0 point energy oh also Zer Point fluctuations explain gravity here's the math then he starts working with h and he and he and uh and Ruda starts writing a paper not directly P up I guess maybe they don't like each other I don't know and everybody St rain paper Zero Point Energy also explains inertia and mass you're like okay wow you just explained a lot of really fundamental physics right there that's the way to do it you're building the bricks up now it's harder to deny you're like well got it all laid out you've got the why figured out everyone wants to know why why why why this is why the bricks laid laid together so this guy was Ken shoulders respectfully was out there and he was trying to figure out how we're going to prove this how are we're going to build the apparatus the experiment what is it going to be he was the guy that was doing the experiments Hal Poff was the guy that was doing the physics maybe there was some crossover I don't know but that's how it seemed to have played out and Bill church was the guy funding them and apparently they worked out together very well okay we also had a lot of crossover of talents that we did not know about at the time one of the biggest surprises to me was find out that bill and Hal had been collaborating for years on on topics oh that's not the one I wanted uh okay well whatever I thought there was something else I wanted okay this is the part 0o Point fluctuation drive this is wild they're talking about right here 1987 they're already thinking Star Trek they're already thinking Star Trek right here so if you're just catching up right now gonna join a Twitter space in a few minutes but before that we're going through Ken shoulders history with Hal POF as written in his own let's say I don't know dictionary of his work which is really detailed really detailed okay at this point I can fall back upon a paper of Bergstrom same one as before mentioned earlier that was the one he said that ether must exist and the claim that the motion of contained charges is indeed what binds them to the remaining charges forming the entity at this same juncture I can step over into the holy region of the vacuum or polarizable ether as Bergstrom called it and begin to look for the sustaining process that keeps the entity intact for longer than would seem possible from the initial energy input considerations I will invoke zero point fluctuations as the UB ubiquitous energy source to sustain the life of the EV so what he's saying is this he's saying we can see this plasma is making a a a battery it's making a capacitor a charge it's charging a capacitor there's energy that's appearing there clearly allowing for this sustained reaction and sustained self-organization they're go where is that energy coming from that's sustaining that shouldn't that be collapsing down no it's not they're going to later attribute this to the Casmir effect what is sustaining this is what he wanted to know is once we make this plasma happen becomes self- sustaining and self-organizing this is like what and plasma is exactly rarely talked about the fact that the ether is real is basically taboo you are not allowed to even talk about these topics or they will shun you thankfully for me I don't care I don't care The Ether is real cold fusion is real free energy is real and uh balls of plasma evos are real get over it move on they're real okay here it is right here Poff 1987 so this is the same time he wrote this or published this has shown that the ground state of the hydrogen is a zero point fluctuation determined State and that this carries with it the attendant implication that the stability of matter itself is largely mediated by the zero point fluctuation phenomenon in the matter described a concept that transcends the usual interpretation of the role and significance of zero point fluctuations of the vacuum electromagnetic field I could have said that in half as many words but that's fine he's saying this shows there is a medium we are not in empty space and that itself is mind-blowing once physicists accept when empty space is not really empty it's not insignificant amount of energy out there blows away everything it blows away everything that's the exact weakness that we would look to find if we believed there was some science that was being suppressed from us that's exactly what it would look like why because that is real science and it is being suppressed from us that's why it looks like that crazy again this is 1987 1987 how long has this been hidden from us the people that know this is real they literally in this document say they are making money from it literally says build church and Hal PUD off are making money from knowing this while nobody else that's not crime that's not a crime that's smart I respect I respect him for being smart and doing that he was also smart enough not to talk about it very much publicly just like whatever people are going to pay me I don't really care what the idiot morons think right like if The Primitives don't think it's real that's fine I'm just going to make devices off of their magic and you know sell the the technology to people he doesn't even have to patent it especially if people don't think it's real then why bother patenting it you just sell real thing to somebody and who cares if people aren't going to you're not afraid of people trying to reproduce it then okay was that the last P off reference yeah and then the last one is they referenced that paper which must have just come out everything else here is before 1987 so he put that in right at the end okay oh there's one more part and then we'll jump over to this xace and we'll see what's going on the other thing I searched for and if you guys have thoughts on what to search for on this let me know right now let me know right now I searched for monopole look at what I found spherical monopole oscillator are you [ __ ] kidding me chat spherical monopole oscillator wow wow a second requirement of major importance is to find a containment geometry that naturally occur occurs whenever the initial process of forming an EV begins this geometry must also be consistent with the needs of the containment technique in providing a convergence while at the same time not allowing the motion of the electrons contained to radiate all of their energy to space so they're saying the electrons need to stay within a region it is possible that the simplest imaginable configuration of a spherical compression is the shape of choice they're saying that a sphere is the answer sphere is the answer it's not actually a torid sphere is the answer wow wow what he's talking about here is using the Casmir effect we're talking about using the Casmir effect this geometry results quite naturally from the plasma blowup that follows along the lines described earlier in chapter 8 in the section on short EV generators and from the description of mesat so I looked up chapter 8 I couldn't figure out what he's talking about I didn't have time to read the whole thing it's 257 pages so maybe we'll do a follow up on that there's also something similar to a spherical electron blowup formed when a field emission Source initially operated under space charge repulsion is pulsed with a very short pulse although this Source would also seem to contain thidal components of motion so toids do come into into uh use toroids are not insignificant but the final shape of the plasma is going to be spherical so not perfectly spherical but spherical in general wow the guy that discovered evos Ken shoulders we've got him in 4k right here we've got him in 4k we're looking at the the same thing that Ken shoulders discovered maybe he helped build it for all we know he might have actually literally just been to help build it like there's not that many people in this black project engineer game there's a lot but not that many end of the day yeah this explains the orbs and their motion exactly quantum gravity quantum gravity is always on it I can always tell when someone in the chat is like they know they know look at those orbs moving around like how how could anything move like that these balls of plasma these evos can move like that Ken shoulders just explained that you can put like a little device in there and it will spin around it can pull ions from the atmosphere and then make a plasma around it toroidal shape on the inside and it forms a a magnetic monopole and makes a spherical formation an asymmetrical formation of electrons meaning it is making a permanent battery it's producing a self-coherent permanent battery ball of plasma called an exotic vacuum object that is essentially free energy it's free energy that's what a permanent battery is permanent battery is free energy so Ken shoulders is trying to figure out why is that doing that in the 80s that is it is so freaking amazing it really is and that's why when people say they think that I'm making this up well [ __ ] you well [ __ ] you first of all I have one Fu per live stream and number two go look up the science yourself I'm referencing more scientific papers than any of these other science influencers ever do except for maybe Sabine I like Sabine I don't really agree with her but I like her uh nobody else references any scientific papers ever I actually read scientific papers that seems like this basic thing but for some reason it's like really hard for people okay let's see if we can find this live stream chat or this uh this chat guys I want to talk to Adrien I want to talk oh yeah here we go I want to talk to him about the future into the election and that we have this result that we have today it could have been a very different America that we woke up to this morning and Paul go ahead I appreciate you bringing me up baby that's a lot of clap and I don't deserve all that uh I I just want to say thinking about X and its its role um it really is uh a replacement for mainstream media um you know I I'm a nobody account I had a thousand followers I've had a thousand followers for 15 years I barely post obviously I messed up something either I got the time wrong or something I don't know but that's not the conversation with Adrian whatever if I messed up I'll do it again later my bad guys I was told uh8 o'clock Central Time so normally every night Adrian does his the conversation and we were gonna talk on this one so yeah okay so I he was probably preempted his thing because he wants to listen to Elon Musk whatever fine I don't care care boo Bo whatever it's not a big deal uh I don't and I I don't want to listen to that frankly I don't want to listen instead what I want to do is I want to keep going over Ken shoulder stuff Elon is not Adrian guys elon's not Adrian chat it's not even a I would make a joke about it but it's not even worth making a joke about uh because it's not true okay stead I want to look up monopole here oh yeah okay I want this is the other part we need to we need to read this next part chat now I unshared my other thing guys can we talk real quick about the live stream last night let's do a quick uh recess while we wait uh wow what a good live stream on the Trump Victory uh watching the results in real time and being able to tell that like it was already over like hours before mainstream media like called it and we knew it was well over they were not going to be able to like you know make pull up a bunch of ballots out of nowhere again that wasn't gonna happen right that wasn't going to happen again Trump destroyed them absolutely destroyed them uh live stream was great Chad has somehow no idea how to use streamyard uh which blows me away because there's really just one bar like right down here that you just press the thing and it changes the view like that's all it really is but we're gonna get Chad hooked up though and we are gonna get him some custom button things down here and then their thing will be sweet guys no I love Chad and share they're awesome that was fun okay let's get back to it okay so this last paragraph that I found on monopoles here the vector and scaler potentials I saw this and I said oh we got to read this black Eevee Nath Nathaniel Hicks good to see you buddy I'm a big fan of Nathaniel Hicks we've met in person he's awesome black Evo's question mark yeah what could Ken mean here's the thing guys you have to understand Ken's research in the context nobody else had ever written about this before Ken shoulders is the first guy conventionally that we know of writing about evos like literally researching them explaining them engineering them understanding how they work he's making the terms up because he doesn't have terms to use to explain what he's seen stuff hasn't been named yet like we should probably name one of these things after like Ken shoulders but he was seeing two different reactions black evos and white evos if anyone out there wants to research that try to figure out what they think the possible ways to uh conceptualize that are I don't know all I know is he's making he saw that the plaz was creating a natural asymmetry where these electrons are clustering together and this is creating asymmetry and now electricity is Flowing energy is flowing and I would bet almost anything that they're super conductive as well meaning what you're seeing there is perfectly efficient to the degree where it's Quantum you're looking at a Quantum effect at the macroscopic scale like if I took a super fluid out and started playing with it you see the weird effects like that's what you're looking at with those evos same idea yeah what is the magnetic monopole sure uh see if we can find a picture here you know what this will do okay normally a magnet has Two Poles North Pole and a South Pole okay so when you look at a magnet your field then looks like this one I've got highlighted here where it goes from north south right like this if you break it you get two magnets like right here like what you're seeing right here you break it it doesn't it's not like all of the north parts act one way and the South Parts act another doesn't work that way the magnet huh that's weird this right here is very important to understand how weird this is break it in half and now the part that was in the South before is now North huh so there's some Force interacting here that's not as simple as Mei ey what should exist is this one on the right North that just goes in all directions this one's kind of covered up right here a North Pole that just goes in all directions that's a magnetic monopole doesn't have a south side to it South component or just a South which would be everything going inward with no North you realize the North and South is just a designation we gave it I think the electric Universe would say that you're just looking at the magnetic component of the electromagnetic field if this magnetic component is a magnetic monopole you can explain a spherical shape very easily you're looking at the magnetic the boundary of the magnetic field interacting with space around it space time you're like actually seeing at least in my opinion you're seeing the magnetic field the interaction the change of the permitivity of the vacuum and you're looking at that and on the inside we have Fusion it's a star in the palm of your hand not really because it's huge actually those things are like 20 ft in diameter they're big okay does that explain magnetic monopole clearly enough for people here's another image actually this is my favorite image right here this one's really good because that looks that is like what we're looking at that's like what we're looking at right there that's what the orb is look at how it hits the wall right it hits the nonradiating barrier and this is where Ken shoulders was saying like why are the electrons like coming back around why are they not shooting out they hit this and they create like an umbrella effect right because they're hitting the wall and then they're coming out around this is why we're seeing the heat signature in the MH370 videos this is exactly why Bob Greener started freaking out if you look at Bob greener's magnetic monopole picture it's it's like this and he would say the ring around the middle is the toroid so there's a toroid in the middle of this this but it's creating a spherical shape spherical shape I mean to me this is amazing oh down here's another good image this image right here is a good one for magnetic monopoles to show you the difference now dur the dra C guy was like the first to predict magnetic monopoles would exist but several people were interested in it I think Julian schwinger was one of them I believe and so the people that are looking at the idea of magnetic monopoles they're the ones who are trying to break the Magik card game right they're the ones who are trying to make the deck that's super annoying that nobody wants to play against that's what they were trying to do it's crazy they've suppressed basically the magnetic monopole Concepts also been suppressed just been like oh it's theoretical CERN was like guys real talk CERN was like supposed to like tell us about magntic monopoles but they just like didn't they like I don't know there their experiment just didn't really tell us much that's like the story I think they tell us here uh somebody's asking about wave conjugations yeah Magneto hydrodynamics in my opinion is just the understanding of magnetic fields as it manipulates medium I don't know how close that is from the Layman's perspective should should we double check you guys want to double check in real time let's ask grock yeah okay screw you Adrian no actually I don't care I'm gonna talk to Adrian soon though for real guys oh wait why are you guys not seeing this weird okay it's honestly crazy how good the AIS are like I If you ask five years ago that it was going to be able to answer questions like this it's a branch of physics studies dynamics of electrically condu conducting fluids like plasmas or liquid Metals in the presence of magnetic fields let's say pretty close fluid dynamics and electromagnetism mhd combines the principles of fluid dynamics with electromagnetism yeah why is this mhd so important chat because we're looking at the medium now and now when we look at the medium as an extra Dimension we're going ah we can treat it like a fluid we can treat it like a super fluid this is how we're going to interact with the ether we're going to make a magnetic monopole that's how we're going to interact with ether so Ken shoulders was looking to understand how what he saw with his eyes was working the best Partners probably are an engineer with a physicist because the physicist job is to try to explain what the engineer is showing them they can do usually the human mind can come up with ways to break reality easier than we can explain them uh we don't use the GW in this stream it's the homosexuals I'm just kidding I have absolutely nothing against people of any uh gender identity can believe do whatever you want I'm not your moral guider I'm also nobody's savior in fact feel a strong urge to play this clip if anyone thinks that I am some kind of religious leader or anything you just play what I'm you guys keep thinking I'm a religious leader this isn't a religion this is actual truth I'm a scientist in real life but this isn't real life this is a video game you you you you at least understand that much right this is a video game but you said I'm your grandson I'm saying everyone is everyone here everyone in this world but me you're all my grandson your name is Morty you're stuck in a video game and I'm here to get you out what about me am I your grandson I just said everyone is wow Inc okay okay but don't react like that it's not a religion this is what is happening you and me and your sister are had an arcade called blips and chits it's been taken over by terrorists the power went out the game restarted and your identity has been splintered into all the non-player characters so I jacked in as Roy that's the player character to get you my grandson Morty out of the game before it's over and you die okay question over here am I your grandson Jesus yes every single one of you is one five billionth of Morty all of you collectively are Morty look I don't want to seem impatient but there's actually a lot more that we have to get done so if this is how hard it's going to be we are in a lot of trouble oh man that's more real than I think even the writers that episode knew man it's not gonna be easy chat to wake people up to Zero Point Energy and to wake them up to uh how far Advanced we've become uh we have this whole branch of physics out there that we've actually figured out to an extreme level of detail that's been pretty much just ignored people claim that they want to know what the answers are that unifies physics unifies general relativity the quantum field Theory and yet when you give it to them you say here it is here you go here's the answer they just say no no thanks I'm good with the beliefs where I have to just make up fake things to explain the areas that physics just doesn't answer those questions well it's just Dark Matter Dark Energy we can't we can't explain why it's doing that we can't explain the visual observation we just don't know it's fine it's fine we don't know stop asking questions you'll say that you'll see that a lot of people that are insecure will tell you to stop asking questions I never stop asking I just I need to know how anything works that pequs my interest in this case it's this physics let's do another rette let's come up with something right now that is on this document what else can we search for can we search for Eevee this is Ken shoulders document oh yeah I actually didn't read this I was just going to read this too forgot I was going to read this vector and scaler potentials I read this and I went immediately I'm thinking Tom Bearden I'm thinking Tom Bearden right now in the earlier years of research before EV project was found a lot of work was devoted to electromagnetic field considerations using vector potentials and scalar potentials instead of magnetic and electric Fields holy [ __ ] chat this was before the EV project he's saying a lot of people were researching if we can transmit waves through the medium longitudinal waves Through The Ether so this is before the 80s this probably ties how put off to it in fact I know it does uh because I think later on he talks about it based on what was said earlier although these two methods can always be mathematically derived from each other there's profound difference in engineering the end results obtained when using th thought processes derived from one or the other so you can achieve different results whether or not you zero out the electric or magnetic uh vectors presumably SC we're talking about scalar physics here zeroing out your electromagnetic fields there were great many Mysteries produced in this area we tried to use potential effects for both communication and charge compression wow oh I already know Thomas Thomson brown john we're way ahead yeah Thomas Thomson Brown if you don't believe check out some of this Thomas Thon Brown's work a lot of people have realized historically that the universe is electric and the reason why we can create anti-gravity with like charge attraction is because charges fundamentally also at a large scale all around us all the time causing what we're feeling it's the same reason why my hand does not go through this bottle charge it's the same reason for Gravity okay but so they were researching communication and charge compression so charge compression he's talking about EVS he's talking about getting these electrons to form these self organizing structures and he's talking about communication well that's weird why how P off's patent is communication system that's based on scal potential zero electric and magnetic field potentials or vector potentials for the people that are not on understanding yet basically they're saying we can manipulate the medium and we can shoot a ripple through the medium but you're not going to see anything from the electromagnetic spectrum visually if you you're using a camera that's looking for electromagnetic signals you're not going to see it scalar interferometry yeah in this case Nathaniel you don't even probably need scaler interferometry to send a signal you may need a receiving device on the other side though which that presents limits if that's the case but if you look at how put off's patent it's a scaler communication device my guess is that it's using the lamb shift or the Aronoff bom effect I think both are referenced in the patent and in those systems you can see a phase shift just from a potential this tells you there's a way the aof foam effect and lamb shift show you there's a way to pull it off PUD off figured it out doesn't surprise me he's a genius also he was working with Ken shoulders another genius sounds like they got paid too for their work so whatever they're doing I want to learn so by some twist of fate some irony of Fate we may have folded back upon ourselves and now have accidentally discovered the EV as an ideal monopole oscillator Chad that's what I want to be hearing it's like we figured it out yeah Aon off bone effect he's like we figured out that we can produce a monopole that's what I'm reading here right is that we the EVS are the ideal monopole oscillator they're using oscillation is just a frequency right so you use a frequency everything is waves so you get the right frequency probably very high frequency and you can achieve this coherent state in plasma the question of course is what's that frequency is it a specific one or is there a range of them that are frequencies that work monopole catalyzed Fusion also Ken shoulders work like how POF and Eric Davis respected Ken's shoulders so much that when they wrote about evos they said it was an ideal candidate for potentially extracting energy from the vacuum they knew they knew this was leg legit as hell this oscillator is the perfect generator for the vector and scalar potential waves without contamination from either electric or magnetic fields these waves can be thought of as longitudinal waves in the vacuum he's literally saying the are waves we shooting through the ether once you understand there's another medium now we've got a whole another thing we can be going down they are largely undetectable by standard e and B detection means but are readily accessible to the monopole world wow wow Chad when you create a monopole he's saying creating a monopole is like the trick to pulling it off that's what he's saying right there or understanding monopoles is the trick to understanding it one way or another whatever there appears to be an incredibly large number of useful phenomenon yet to arise from using potential effects that are not immediately accessible to force of e and B fields this phase determined Force free world will certainly be another chapter somewhere in the future so he knows man wow phase determined huh I mean to me it's got to be standing standing waves within the plasma you're creating a standing wave a resonance in the plasma just like Sheila Ramen maybe her name is pretty sure Sheila Ramen she shows that with sound you can create these coherent shapes a lot of the time they're fuzzy and blurry but sometimes they just they become coherent and she shows you the different shapes that can be formed that's what I think Ken shoulders really realized Ken shoulders realized in the quantum level everything's related to waves frequencies vibrations waves let's read his last paragraph the condensation of my thoughts and writings of this book have been just another phase in the constant cycle of searching the universe of the physical sciences a new part of the cycle is coming soon in which the results of the search will be disseminated and converted into useful products wow following this I will return to exploration of the vast electronic Wilderness just discovered this cycle of search discovering exploitations is to me just about as great as anything could be this episode has ended but the story as a whole is to be continued to be continued okay I want to show you his patent kind of amazing kind of amazing chat am I cutting this off I don't think so energy conversion using a high charge density disclosed our apparatus and method for obtaining energy from high electrical charge density entities these are his evos he's talking about evos chat how can we obtain energy from electrical charge the energy may be pered by the conductor of a traveling wave device positioned along the path which the propagating entities follow so you put a conductor in the path of the entities it's actually really [ __ ] simple what is he saying right there how do we extract energy from the ball of energy well you see that Tesla sign thing while the energy is beaming put something in the way put a conductor in the way the the conductor will capture energy maybe put a capacitor there I don't know whatever I'm going to figure it out do something basically multiple traveling wave devices may be combined energy output from a traveling wave device may also be directed to the generation of a subsequent such entity I mean bro what he's this is the other question I didn't even read this last time I was checking this out he's saying you can use this to become a self- perpetually fueling plasma this is all about whoa thank you Scott holy crap I hope then all this becomes publicly accepted you heavily roast all the dunkers who criticized you and you get the credit you deserve for your work uh yeah I hope thank you very much Scott this is a very generous donation I don't know what Canadian money uh means in America but the fact that this is red means it's a lot so thank you very much I appreciate it and I forgive you for being Canadian we'll let it slide um will it be accepted eventually it will be accepted eventually it will be it's literally just a matter of time like at the end of that Hodge twins clip just a matter of time this is going to be accepted uh because it's true it's the answer if this is like how I'm sure we're not going to find anything in this next South Indian Ocean search that they're doing apparently they're doing it soon who knows when that means MH370 they claim to have credible evidence of where they can find the plane they're not going to find anything 100% no chance they're not going to find anything how do I know that cuz I watched a plane disappear out of SpaceTime and two videos right same reason why I know the science is going to be proven to be real gonna be right going to continue to be right haters are going to continue to cope and try to come up with weird ways for why the science and the physics can't be real and why the videos can't be real whatever they can cope for as long as they want I don't urge anyone to ruminate about the science the physics or myself please do not do that the same way I don't want cultist I want stalkers either please just start dealing with your new life or go back to sleep in your old life and just ignore what I'm saying a lot of people are going to have to die unfortunately for us to move forward and I don't mean that we are going to we're not going to do anything to change the path of anyone's life I'm just saying it's G to take time because people have to leave us from this Earth before physics will move forward because they're too influential and they're too close-minded there you go oh man these people are gonna start stalking stalkers are gonna stalk chat okay okay we're gonna play this other clip just because it's funny to have the best aliens out of everybody I don't care if aliens are or not if they are real we're going to have the best aliens you want an alien that's a tall white Nordic so that you can live out your weird fantasies we can get you that if your weird fantasies have to do with purple or blue aliens with big butts we'll do you that as well if you're into the insectoid uh or crab people the Mantis people we got you some of that and free bonus they're all telepathic all of them every single one even the little gray one he's especially telepathic he's best in terms of telepathic chat we [ __ ] our aliens chat like everybody on the left is obsessed with aliens like it's unhealthy and it's always a weird fetish like I don't know why they all have fetishes about these aliens or whatever like bro I'm good with just human women human women are fine for me I don't need uh Alien Blue Mix color weird aliens with bizarre uh features and you know appendages right like it's fine I nothing against them but I'm good and for some reason it's always the leftwing ones that are like super obsessed with the like aliens existing is like the most important thing how profound is that and I'm like it's it's kind of profound but not really like it's not even that profound anymore like we we've seen like evidence of Life on Mars in Europa Enceladus potentially Titan that's just like in our Cosmic neighborhood there's like life everywhere and it's like okay well then so what aliens exists probably somewhere unless the aliens are here giving me a BJ or whatever these people think they're doing what does it matter what does it matter it doesn't matter how is that like change the profundity of aliens existing is what you think that all of a sudden we're going to look for World Peace do these people really think that all of a sudden we're going to be like oh aliens are real everybody come together and let's do world peace now aliens are real everybody I actually think they might think that they might actually think that that's how delusional these people are who cares man okay aliens are real great great doesn't change anything about our situation whatsoever are we going to go beg the aliens to save us or some [ __ ] like what exactly is step two in this process aliens are real okay next step nothing nothing by the way how do the aliens get here how do the aliens fly here don't worry about that don't worry about that what do you mean like I don't see any Rockets attached to these ships how are they get in here don't ask that question why is the Department of energy in charge of the UFO phenomenon why is the Department of energy the top dog in the UFO phenomenon someone just walked me through that that is very bizarre to me especially when nobody asked the question of what's the energy source for these things it's why we've got it turns out Hal POF who we've thoroughly connected to Ken's shoulders he's like buddy buddy with Ken's shoulders they were thick as thieves like him and and Eric Davis these guys are like this is the mafia this is the mob like well how do I sign up is there an application let me in on this we've connected them together here we've shown that this science is all out here and how Poff happens to also be connected to the UFO world and turns out how POF is like one of the top mythological figures in this UFO phenomenon going back 50 70 years yeah UFOs obviously run on Zero Point Energy what other candidate is there is not even another option there's they're not running on solar power they're not running on wind power you could say maybe they have a cold fusion reactor but how are they Distributing that energy out of there how's that all working maybe I'm not saying it's not possible I'm just saying what's the most efficient way well just have a coherent ball of plasma that's a drone that's a pretty efficient way where you don't need a lot of Material Science versus like a whole crap it has to be sealed by the way you to be able to seal it and unseal it do you want to put somebody inside of that it's a death trap so here's the secret the plasmas these plasmas are basically infinite batteries that's why if you really boil it down just get down to the Brass TX of what we're talking about here an infinite battery generator that can possibly be scaled up and Amplified energy scary scary thoughts a lot of the problem wait very important question ason are you an alien I don't think so I don't think so are we all the aliens maybe maybe yeah see Amanda new we are aliens to the aliens we're all the aliens chat we're all in this universe just doing things being brainwashed by a weird system that is seeking to control our every movements and our thoughts and doesn't want us to know about the magical technology that is at our fingertips no I am not from the future I am the version of myself that gets cloned in the future and then gets sent back in the time by a time machine that we develop in the future that shoots me back to the past that then become Bob Lazar and then I become a whistleblower and I forget about the media and all that stuff too just to be clear okay one of the big back to full screen one of the big things related to these plasmas is how do you convert the Heat or how do you convert it to useful energy Energy pay attention guys this is actually really big how do you convert this the safe fire project these cold fusion experiments they're all finding excess heat how do we convert that to useful energy one answer might be that we create the magnetic monopole because why now we've created our little Tesla sign of a in a self-organizing structure and we just have to put a little object in there to charge it up could be one way another way might be to try to convert the heat back into electricity as well so those are just the thoughts that not necessarily related to this patent but those are the two thoughts that cross my mind having read this because it says here at the end so he's saying that the energy here can be used to charge the plasma orb as well so when I say how am I sure that the United States government can make a ball of plasma like this it's not aliens well because I'm looking at a patent from 1989 by Ken shoulders to the Jupiter toy company Jupiter toy company can you see that yeah oh you can't read the it says right here toy company like right thereat you can't see it but I'll go like this to show you Jupiter toy company chat so thermal energy can also be obtained so Ken shoulders I've got to find there's also a missing link somewhere out here I've heard that talks about Ken's shoulders was convince this explained cold fusion oh that's what we should look up that's what we're going to look up real quick hold on we're going to look up Fusion oh okay [ __ ] chat we're GNA make a okay well we we saw what we needed to from this pattern okay so this patent was sweet I forgot this is what I wanted to look up on this paper so we're gonna look up fusion and Ken shoulder's big document here okay Fusion fish um I was using a Pico farad capacitor for the energy source and a mechanical vacuum switch to discharge the capacitor at 10 kilovolts this represents a lot of energy and the EVS were covered up by a big and nasty discharge that obscured a lot of the details I was looking for yeah okay well we're not going to read all this but wow I think he basically describes exactly how to make them here like this is crazy chat like this this document I'm pretty sure I haven't read all of it I got excited too excited when I just read part of it it's 257 Pages or something um I think this explains how to produce an EVO like with a with something that we can produce today we might be able to produce this there's a pretty decent chance that we can learn how to make an EVO from this something that would be amazing oh [ __ ] you think I don't know calculus I bro I took Cal 3 with Computing or was it Cal two with Computing I don't know uh I took it minimum minimum two calculus courses you think I'm not good at math bro bro you think I'm not good at math Math SATs that's the scores that he used to get into college 800 that's the Max and that's what I scored as well so am I afraid of math no chat I just think math is boring okay I just think math is boring that's all um yes coherent matter wave beam lock heed Martin paper this is why I like Nathaniel why because this coherent matter wave beam patent keeps coming back time and time again 2013 patent by lock Martin to produce a coherent matter wave beam what does that even mean right now I'm thinking if there's any device in the center of those balls of plasma I would call it a coherent matter wave beam it's probably what I would call it and that's what locky Martin's uh patent is called could be right could be wrong but that seems like pretty damn close to exactly what we're looking for because we need an object that's basically going to rip the electrons from the ions in the air or in the water and produce a gravitational field around the object rapidly like within seconds of being fired so you're going to shoot this thing out it's going to start oscillating or whatever it's going to do pulsing and that thing is going to produce plasma around it almost instantly in fact oh and then there was something about Pat yeah it also is hilarious Jupiter toy company Church's Chicken is connected to halud off which is connected to free energy potentially in the form of cold fusion and plasmoids completely crazy chat hello chaotic good okay the fact that is connected to Church's Chicken is frankly mindblowing to me I lost my train of thought [ __ ] oh okay coherent matter wave beam um I was going to show a clip oh yeah okay I remember here we go don't worry Chad don't get excited I want to show you guys the second orb okay something weird about this the orb just kind of appears out of nowhere there you can see it right now at the bottom of the frame down here just kind of appears right here in this Frame right here can see the orb at the bottom is gone there it is and then it shoots up through the cloud what if this thing got fired from the surface of the water what if somebody fired this out of like a cannon and this thing Springs into life and what if we're watching it spring into life right there like they shoot this device out and then within like a second or two it starts springing up and now it's a plasma ball it could also just be coming directly out of the ocean I think who just said that yeah William schwant uh it could just be coming straight out of the water as well it's hard to tell but it could also just be getting like that could be it forming right there so the reason why I wanted to bring this up is that I think I'm ready to say there's a good chance not not 100% a decent chance that these orbs can only work on Earth that they require a hydrogen atmosphere something with hyd hydrogen in the atmosphere they can probably work on certain other planets but they might be cold fusion based on our atmosphere that would be extremely limiting if true but also an extremely powerful weapon at the same time what if we just have balls of plasma that are free energy and how do we guide it we we guide it like a drone we use how P off patent his gravity communication patent that's why they were researching communication and propulsion they were research communication and charge confinement let's call it Fusion because they wanted a way to communicate with it as well Ken shoulders was basically the father of drone technology do you know that Ken shoulders one of the first people researching drone technology because they wanted to make a drone out of it it they wanted to make a ball plasma that was a drone that they could sell as a child's toy the military came in and said no we're going to turn that into a weapon we're going to turn that into a weapon and we're going to teleport an airplane away oh you liked your airplane well not anymore now your airplane is getting Zapped Away by a toy turns out we weaponized it because it's too powerful it can do that so at some point later on someone figured out that these balls of energy can do that scary stuff huh um okay let's look up see if there's anything else in this Fusion uh let's see count C streaming EV apparatus an EV Source had been set up on a glass surface and fired at a distance anode that had another glass plate covering a part of the region between the source and the target this glass plate was a standard microscope okay whatever um when the EV was fired and encountered the first edge of of the glass cover it spread out in a pattern over a quarter inch wide and penetrated under the top glass as a group of relatively straight and independent EV paths this is amazing enough but when these multiple paths reached the Far Side of the glass cover plate they united into one EV again in and went their way to the anode as if nothing impeded them wow wow me saying right there guys we can go through solid matter the EVS are coherent straight up through solid matter these plasma vortices they're creating are coherent through solid matter why is this important this is important because of this so when people guys get ready for my hardcores I want you to okay hardcores please uh pay very close attention to what I'm about to say I need to make sure that everybody's saying the right stuff this is the video of the orbs penetrating orbs penetrating the smoke right here why is it penetrating the smoke the same reason why the evos go straight through solid glass they can go through solid glass but they're still potentially interacting but they're still coherent as they go through it this also explains why the trans medium it doesn't matter what medium they're going through they can interact with the medium like you don't want to run into a conductor something that's going to change your equilibrium of your plasma but you can go through a diffuse medium quite easily but you're going to still interact with it that's the crazy part because yeah matter isn't really solid at all it's having a Quantum tunneling effect it's Quantum tunneling directly through that but the fields that it's creating are interacting with the SpaceTime so the answer is it's kind of both they are creating a lower permitivity state which is a lower refractive index a region of the vacuum with a different permitivity but they are also it's not perfect it's not a perfect break there's like an event horizon where there's a change between the permitivity Zone just like on a black hole it's like why is a black hole why is it actually eliminate Illuminating a lot of light because there's a huge region around the Event Horizon where the uh Dynamic Casmir effect is happening and light is being released as photons from the quantum vacuum okay so now we've understood that pretty wild plasma can move right through yeah weird oh Adrien diman started should we go do it oh guys I can't stay up that late though but I can't really push it to another time okay okay everybody wants it we'll stay up a little bit later um okay let's see if we can get up in this chat so I don't let people down felt bad because he was in some other thing man that Hodge twins thing's going to be good so that I can remedy those let's see how we do here chat you know what's kind of cool is when when somebody joins us into the conversation and you get that little notification if you in fact follow them like in case of Benjamin here here we go chat I don't hear anything can you guys hear them I can't hear anything for some reason it's not muted hold on let me leave and come back I think that would be kind of more cool because that's what something I'm GNA put you in this co-host whoop yeah you dropped I'll put you in as coost if your requests again then uh bring him up okay uh Benjamin says uh I can only hear you bles so there's something going on with the space here Adrian um we try uh removing them and then bringing them back up yeah Benjamin are you able to hear what it is that we're saying uh Benjamin if you just disconnect and then uh rejoin I can bring you back up re requests that should maybe do it yeah that's what I what's up boys hey Adrian what's up man BL dog how do I say your name yeah it's BL BL call bli bles bles okay yo I've been wanting to talk to you Adrien for a while man I'm pretty excited to chat with you here in this panel wa what what do we what do we want to talk about I don't know uh kind of whatever but people tell me as a warmup to this that you hate free energy so I was thinking maybe we could talk about that it is not that I hate free energy is actually not about that uh it's that I don't believe in the concepts as they have been explained by various many others also another thing if there is in fact a free energy device why does nobody build it well it's like saying why didn't we build electric cars before on mus came around true but in case the like of the free energy device it should be something that is relatively intuitive you can put together on something like a stream tell people how to get the individual components that make it up and then you know do it what if I told already done that and if you Googled Liberty engine you would find a video with like three million views of people having done that even with an experiment like out in the forest where there's they're by the road there's no power sources nearby people have done that and they IGN that too what would you say in response to that have you built one of those me personally no but I've had people reach out to me that have supposedly recreated it and successfully and so the question the answer your question is that it is there is a fundamental understanding that we a lot of people have been brainwashed to ignore for some logical some reasons that you just kind of describe which is that people would say well if it was possible should have already been done and if it's been done then it should be easy to follow a series of steps to reproduce it but if you don't understand the underly physics of the universe that's required to see how that's actually possible and how it doesn't violate the laws of thermodynamics then you're going to blind yourself to that response so like I just posted a video of Richard findan and he explains this is that it's the why problem is that if you don't understand the concept of something or the how something can be possible and there's an unlimited list of why questions you can ask ultimately You' say something like why does my hand not go through the table people don't question that because they just know i' hit my hand on the table and it bounces off you know it's not going right through the table but if you try to understand a deeper understanding of that it becomes a lot actually can go through the table if I wanted to if there's a certain chance there's like a chance that my hand will actually completely miss the table it go straight through like all the atoms would miss each other and go straight through that is in fact possible because there's space between the atoms yes but and here's the thing so yes that's a good point like the atom the space how much space is between the atoms it's like 95 to 99% empty space people like compare it to the distance between solar bodies what's what's between those atoms nothing you really think there's nothing between those atoms I mean why why would there be something else between them what else could there be I mean are we going a subatomic or yeah Going Quantum this is the whole point like what is quantum mechanics if you listen to a lot of the pioneers of especially quantum mechanics in general a lot of these people in electrical engineering they believed in the idea of The Ether some called it the plank ether they had many different ways of calling it we now just call it Zero Point Energy we've rebranded it many different times but end of the day like if you look at the everything around us as Tiny Bubbles then even at Scales smaller than we can perceive scales smaller than the atoms there's still Tiny Bubbles between all of that that's this ether this is where Kusa Klein their theory of 1926 basically said that there's this energy that's out there in an extra Dimension that's the only way we can describe it because we can't like physically see it that is binding everything together a sea of energy an equilibrium that we're sitting in all the time okay okay now of course you know the Zero Point Energy thing would be interesting if it would actually exist which could potentially so the question I rather is what exactly do you think is being stopped what do you mean being stopped I mean the dissemination of this knowledge right so say for instance you could reproduce it why isn't this more widespread well I'm gonna make it more widespread I think the biggest thing okay when you look at history I mean that's what my that's why I'm here that's why I'm doing this like that's why when I go I don't know do people charge money when they go on podcast I never have but and I never sell anything never once even though I've been on 100 podcasts it's just a matter of getting the information out there because like I said before what if it's just a matter of brainwashing like you're a smart guy and I I kind of know where your politics line and a lot of people that kind of think like us you know we think a lot of times we're so we're open-minded because we figured out that covid was a scam just hypothetically right there's a lot of other things like that have happened before but what if we're also just as close-minded just as NPC when it comes to physics and science where all of a sudden in those topics we just want to listen what the experts tell us to think right and didn't we just learn a big lesson that the experts aren't really the ones to go to for that if we just look for ourselves look at the history look at the science ourselves just think about our universe and what what is we're seeing all around us all the time can't we understand what's really going on better than the so-called experts can I think we can and in doing so ironically we're evoking a lot of experts ones that just haven't got the cred they haven't got the recognition that they deserve many of which died before they ever got it because we were just as close-minded about topics that we didn't care as much about that we we mock others for being as closed-minded about what are your thoughts is that something you think could be possible yeah well I mean the the N so so where's the science this right let's say do you have an argument that actually scales so look at for instance mathematics and then you'd say something as illogical as you know 2 plus two is five and not four so we can prove that that is actually not true that's complete nonsense and you know you could even say that oh we have zeros in our system we shouldn't have zeros because if it's nothing why should we have something represent nothing that's that's nonsense like what the Stitch which is also why Roman math is actually one of the worst versions of math ever invented in human history it's [ __ ] diabolical anyways right so cons consider that yes so let me SC so yes it is so you actually you asked before you mentioned before well if Zero Point Energy was real Zero Point Energy is objectively real there's actually no denial of that whatsoever it's proven by the lamb shift he won a Nobel Prize for his work and Henrik Casmir and the casm effect in 1948 Pro we actually were able to show the kmir effect with much better detail in the 90s proved Beyond any Shadow of Doubt there is something there that we are not seeing between the atoms potentially at the zero point fluctuation level and we can see its effect as a type of negative energy pressure called the Casmir effect and if we can engineer that then we are now manipulating what we would perceive of as gravity um in addition to that you would then say okay the math now does the math scale up yes so how Poff is one of the I call him the Godfather of this he's one of the people who was writing the detailed scientific papers back in the 80s when he figured out the ether is actually real there is a medium what does that mean from Quantum electrodynamics and also from general relativity so he went ahead and unified general relativity with this idea that the zero point fluctuations would explain graph using Concepts like Casmir effect showed that in fact we don't even need any extra constants or to add anything onto the equations is that you can basically the same way where Einstein took Newton Isaac Newton's theories of gravity and converted it to general relativity we're not taking general relativity and we're unifying it with quantum mechanics through Zero Point Energy so all the bodies in their planets still explain gravity but now you also add this underlying layer uh that's in an equilibrium right now of this sea of energy that we're like on the top of the ocean of and it all adds up in fact I'll add just to Steel Man the other argument the other side two people wrote comments on how PUD off's 1989 gravity is a zero point fluctuation Force paper because they were trying to contend that he made some mathematical mistake and he addressed both arguments um so it was controversial when he came out with it in the 80s but since then a number of people have been writing papers on this exact same idea and here's my last pitch to you Adrian because really I am trying to pitch you is that this answer solves what is gravity gravity is an induced effect from zero point fluctuations from the energy all around us it solves where mass and inertia are coming from as well they're coming from this interaction of this zero point fluctuation energy just like if you P spilled paint on a canvas and you watch the paint spread across the canvas that's our SpaceTime and the bumps in the valleys are if you put some sand or matter on the top of it the last things it explains actually probably explains more than this as well but dark energy and dark matter are also explained Dark Matter the reason why stars are spinning much faster around the edges of galaxies than we expect is because they're actually in a medium that's why just like if we were to watch like plasma forming in zero gravity we're going to see that it's going to form much similar to how the galaxies are forming and then for why would if we believe the Big Bang happened which just I'm going to throw out there I actually no longer believe the Big Bang happened but the principle is still important because if we believe the universe expanded faster than the speed of light how did that happen we call it dark energy we say that the universe is made up of like 70 to 90% Dark Energy well dark energy is just negative energy which is the Sea of energy that we're sitting in that's exactly what we need in order to explain the paint spreading all over the canvas we need that negative energy so this idea theory that has not my theory I just happen to Champion it and influence for it it's been out there and proven and believed in and what have you by many PhD physicists and Engineers that worked in Black projects they all talk about this exact same idea and it changes everything if it's real true true although I think the Big Bang example is actually quite interesting in that you know we could imagine it as more or less a cycle and we keep going through the cycle at an infinite rate so I I think it's still very much real it's just not described properly I think it's real just not described properly what do you think about that yeah for me it's like there's two thoughts on the Big Bang stuff first is I'm not saying that big bangs aren't possible I think if we can manipulate some energy source that's all around us we have access to Infinite Energy so we can probably produce a big bang and if there was a big bang some former versions of oursel maybe produced it I also love the idea of symmetry and cyclical nature of this stuff because everything's really waves when it when you come right down to it so the Symmetry aspect would lead me to say if there's a black hole is there a white hole and then from the cyclical aspect it's like well if this technology is this understanding of the universe is so powerful that you can make something of that destructive nature you know maybe there's a cyclical uh cycle to technology and getting to a point where it's just doomsday after that I know what are your thoughts on that front ironically not that many although I do like what you're saying do you think we're going to destroy ourselves with advanced technology that would make nuclear weapons look like little peashooters I mean I mean if we haven't done it already I doubt that we're going to do it in the future as well like our need of survival kind of at some at some level out competes the need to be right because that's where that's from you know you say okay I need to be The Winning Side I need to be the one that's right in whatever you know configuration you happen to find yourself in I think the need to survive like far out competes that at that level I think sure we're going to cause a lot of Destruction we're almost probably going to destroy us elves but if such a thing exists I I think we'll still survive somehow yeah and let me say I am somebody who is wants to be optimistic about it but truthfully I've come to the conclusion we will definitely destroy ourselves so my counter argument there would be to say is it not though true that weapons seem to get more and more efficient smaller more destructive when we saw the nuclear bomb go off that's where we saw really the power of E equals MC squ which I would argue is the other side of the coin of Z Point Energy one side is you realize that any small amount of mass can produce a huge energy release and then the other side is you say oh wait we can just pull energy from all around us we don't even need the coin at all to produce the energy um but if E equals MC s is true then then sorry anyway I just lost my train of thought right there go ahead what's up Adrian hey BL ashon good to see you and Benjamin uh it to the point you get the conversation you guys are having the one thing that every time I think about okay we're going to have a colony of Mars once it comes self- sustaining the one in escapable fact that always hunts me is that that removes the biggest nuclear deterrent we have which is uh what's called Mutual Annihilation because if it's now we have a second planet that's colonized all of a sudden one planet destruction doesn't mean the ending of the human race and that sounds really morbid and I don't but I don't think that'll lead to anything it's just it's an interesting thought experiment yeah like we got to send if once we figure out this technology if we can make a weapon that was the point is like what if we make a oh yeah and the other side of the coin by the way um I don't think we humans will ever destroy themselves as long as there's more to explore so and that's the beauty of going to space and going Beyond because at this point like if all of a sudden space is up for grabs and it becomes available to everyone on uh Earth I think all the fighting here will stop and all of a sudden there'll be a race to go uh mine asteroids capture build station and so forth I think for a longest time we'll have the big biggest piece on Earth yeah no I mean I agree because I think that that's why we have to try to become Interstellar like the moment we figure this technology out the benefit is if you understand there's this energy this also can explain where negative energy comes from because now this ocean of energy if you go down below sea level you're now in negative energy if you were to look at a graph and so now negative energy is not just this exotic substance it's just normal energy the directa Sea of energy they call dra holes basically pulling energy out of The Ether this idea and if we have this we can make a warp drive we can make a wor we can make a wormhole we can go to whatever planet we want potentially anywhere in the universe definitely with in our galaxy definitely to Alphas andari or these other places that are relatively close and if we can do that we got to send people there right away so that if we somebody does destroy the whole planet that the civilization you know lives on I say we send all of the people that voted for Kamal Harris there but that's just my personal political opinion by the way ashon what are your thoughts on on Z Point Energy um get trolled or sorry what do you mean just in general sorry I'm doing like two mute buttons because I'm trying to live stream at the same time it's hard for me what do you mean by zero my thoughts on Zer Point Energy I mean in general I know I know the per who I'm asking I've periodically followed your videos and so forth uh just in general uh like the the the theoretical basis the origin of its theoretical basis because to me it seems it's a it's theory that was developed on a side effect of a weird observation that weird observation being where matter and energy in a Quantum level pops in and out of existence that being the S effect rather than that's the only way we could explain it from there we developed the Zero Point Energy out of that yeah no it's this is one of the biggest misconceptions about Zero Point Energy and this is why I call it really one of the elements of suppression it's like what do what do people mean when they say stuff is being suppressed a lot of times it really does come down to brainwashing and I'm not trying to say like hey you guys are all brainwashed or whatever I think we all get brainwashed by we just believe what we've been told to think and we've basically been told to think ignore Tesla even though he literally invented alternating current he invented the very power source we still use today everywhere we never thought to upgrade how the power is created up just keep spinning a copper coil through a generator so Zero Point Energy has actually been proven to be real based on the lamb shift and based on the Casmir effect Casmir effect proves Beyond any Shadow doubt Zero Point Energy is there and when I started investigating this and found out that fact I went wow now that's really bizarre so what's the counter argument well the counter argument is well it's not a you can't use it it's not enough to be beneficial doesn't really make any sense though we think that the dark energy is like massive percentage of all the energy that's out there so it would make sense that it's a big number and there's a lot of controversy over whether or not the math says that it should be as massive number versus whether or not it's based on only what we can visually see with our eyes well what's the difference well with the Zero Point Energy we've already learned we can't visually see it with our eyes it's on this scale that's imperceivable to us potentially below the plank scale smaller than anything that we can understand you have to have this understanding of an extra Dimension to really get the idea of it but we can measure the effects the last thing I'll say is the best effect in my opinion is the Aon Hoff bone effect we take a solenoid which means that all the electromagnetic fields are trapped within a cylinder and we shoot electrons past it you would say well there's no electromagnetic interference on the outside of that cylinder there should be no way it can interfere with the path of the electron and yet we see a phase shift when we see so we see just the potential somehow interacting the only way that's explainable to me is that we're looking at a medium we can't really see it but we are in it just like a fish doesn't realize it's in a fish bowl anyway there we go does that answer your question yeah s sort of um I I got follow up but Benjamin got his hand up goad by the way I love talking about 0 point energy just because here's the rants part of it I love my rants which is this is true then it obsoletes all forms of power like forget fossil fuels like okay we're just literally burning [ __ ] to make Steam to spin a turbine how can that be efficient okay you say solar panels Elon Musk loves solar panels I love Elon Musk I love what he's doing for us I have to respectfully disagree on solar panels solar panels create junk uh they're clunky basically not recyclable efficiency right now is generally around 20% wind power wind power can uses a lot of materials that are actually can are bad for the environment they kill a bunch of birds they're ugly to look at Zero Point Energy is the same concept renewable resource that we can tap into all around us manipulated in most cases magnetism or the kmir effect directly on the quantum scales on small scales this is a renewable resource that obsoletes all of that it's like having solar power where you don't need the sunshiny or having wind power and you don't need wind anymore it's the ultimate free energy and it's green energy as well there's no byproducts if you use a little too much you might dilate time around you and bend gravity and space time around you so I wouldn't recommend that but the scales that we're talking about as human beings on this planet we're not using that much energy to impact that now if you're going to try to Wormhole something from one place to the other yeah now you want to be careful about where you're standing so there you go there's my rant for you guys hey Ashton I was just curious let's assume for one second that Zero Point Energy does exist like for a discussion that's totally fine what might a mechanism look like even at just a basic conceptual description of some some type of mechanism that could harness it like are we talking something what scale are we talking about and what type of mechanism would probably be involved great question so right off the bat magnetic motors can interact with the vacuum the key there is probably using a pulsed current and having a resonance set up in your magnetic motor system there's several that I've shown that I think are legitimate that are online um there are many that are not and a lot of the stuff you see people sharing on Twitter and on social media where it's like they're playing out the magnets and they get it into a temporary configuration where it's spinning perpetually that's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about something that's actually manipulating magnetism and asymmetries to cause an increase in the current and power that is being generated that could literally power a load the one that I go to it right now that's my favorite is Liberty engine I've got on pretty good authority that's legit there's a reason why those guys are wearing gloves and won't show even any of their skin in the videos um I think they're legit but other magnetic motors are possible people like bendini cill uh Hutchinson may have figured out I haven't really seen his stuff but a lot of the stuff these guys were actually onto it now let's get more advanced that is old Tech that is 70s 80s stuff that we're talking about the uh Casmir cavities Pat by Bernard H who was a locked Martin engineer and Garrett modal who's a phys physicist at University of Colorado I believe they realized hey this Casmir effect that's the secret to all this negative energy stuff what if we just scale it down onto the smallest possible scales the basic building blocks for it like what Adrian was talking about what's if you really boil it down to the core fundamentals of what's Happening how do we manipulate this and they said well let's make a cavity just an empty space Maybe we fill some gas in there but just an empty space with something inside a gas empty cavity and then we're going to put a a semiconductor could be a superconductor semiconductor and then we're going to put an insulator and then another semiconductor so we're basically making a wall but it turns out at the quantum level electrons can tunnel directly through a wall just like that so this can actually have the effect where we can pull energy out of an atom pull change the electron orbital pull energy out and then when the electron goes to the cavity it just bounces back like a trampoline like you're jumping on the trampoline pulling a little energy out and then you move that electron to the open area and now it gets the energy back naturally from the vacuum from the Zero Point Energy all around us it's a very simple concept and why is it so important that it's simple because now you can take that concept and you can make it tiny like onto a tiny tiny microchip and why is that important because these effects the Casmir effect specifically gets exponentially more powerful the smaller you get the closer your metal plates get to one another so you want to make something that's very small but you can make an array or a configuration of it that scales that effect up in a big way and so now if I were to be serious about free energy and gravity manipulation magnetic motor yeah it's cool but I already know free energy is real I don't really care about that I want to know what is the coolest way to do it coolest way is a micro chip because then you can just put your microchip in your phone and now your phone charges forever just never never runs out and the last thing I'll say is exotic vacuum objects this might be one of the most fundamental understandings that people need to wrap their brain around people are talking about them as plasmoids they are calling them B lightning if there are aliens out there somewhere and there are guys get over it there's aliens out there somewhere I don't know it doesn't mean they're here but somewhere in this universe a huge Universe then it may be that any civilization figures out that plasma will self-organize using this property of The Ether that's out there you can easily get a plasma based on the right frequency to become self-coherent and self- sustaining meaning it's pulling energy out of the vacuum that's how it's able to keep its form when otherwise it should just be collapsing should be collapsing what if any civilization figures this out the same way that cavemen figure out fire where now the moment you figure out that this is possible you realize that's a permanent battery that is self- sustaining that we've just created right there now you've gone from we don't need explosions anymore we don't need to go bang bang make a big explosion make a rocket go in the sky and now we realized that everything is actually based on electric charge and electrostatics and we can manipulate voltage and frequency to amplify current and energy and now we however much energy we need that's not a problem anymore we have unlimited there you go is there a consumption that occurs like essentially for all the examples that you mentioned you know the most basic being fire something is consumed when a fire occurs in your example is there drawing down something are you decreasing something um that is consumed in this process that's the big rub in the evos so far I would say yes generally the way it seems like it's going is that they're using a catalyst like in cold fusion pwns and fman 1989 I absolutely think that what they did was real I think the people the 90 experiments that recreated it or 60 they were all real as well they were noticing what we would expect from Fusion but happening at low temperatures they were seeing helium getting produced so hydrogen atoms are fusing and we getting helium produced and energy is being released but what they also saw was there was more energy coming out than what they were expecting but it wasn't necessarily coming out in the form of electricity it was mainly coming out in the form of heat but they noticed there was excess heat production well really now all these things are just engineering problems we know that the Zero Point Energy exists we know that plasma can self-organize and that plasma seems to actually be doing Fusion but uh creating more energy out than what we would be expecting from a conventional understanding of hot fusion and now we can see that this is all based on this idea that there are these zero point fluctuation that we're sitting in a sea of energy the energy must be coming from somewhere but the same way that Pon and fleshman got discredited in 1989 the physicist came out and said this is not possible the laws of physics our Theory our understanding says this is not possible it reminds me a lot of history where history people have said controversial things and then all the establishment would come out and say no that we've learned that this isn't possible but at the same time you ask them to explain what dark energy is where energy is coming from all the time uh you know how the universe can expand faster than the speed of light you ask them explain the Aronoff bone effect or why the lamb shift is happening and they'll they'll give you some answers kind of like a round well that is explained in some Theory but they won't really explain how it how it fits in an empty vacuum understanding of the Universe um and that's why I think the beauty of this is that this is actually real science this is real like I'm 100% convinced this is real and these guys know about it and for me the question is like why are they hiding this from us is there some dangerous dark secret about it some people say you know this is not my field of expertise first of all but that maybe civilizations have been getting reset I think Adrian was talking about at the beginning maybe civilization been getting reset maybe you reach a certain point you just wipe yourself out if I really want to scare you what I would say is we don't know why a lot of black holes form physics can't really explain a lot of the black holes we see when we look out there what if it turns out that any civilization can discover this property of plasma and very quickly figure it out and when they do they can figure out how to make a black hole and once they do that goodbye civilization and what if all those black holes are relics and remnants of civilizations that wipe themselves out and that the firmy paradox the reason why we don't see a bunch of civilizations is because everybody just gets too big for their britches and then it's game over so um so this is kind of like I said initially um the 0 point energy is a bit of a it's almost a misnomer it's kind of uh and I'll explain why so the way 0. energy was discovered you take an absolute vacuum and then you measure all the fluctuations and all of a sudden you get get a static nonzero energy field um the problem becomes is like okay well you measure it anywhere and it's always the same static nonzero field so they call that Zero Point Energy it's not that there's energy being created it's that wherever they found volume of space there was a certain Baseline of energy and when they call fluctuations it does fluctuate and when you talk at the quantum level it FL Ates in and out of existence without seeming connection between the uh fluctuations so there may like for example what we understand as matter at a Quantum level the Bas way they understood it is that within this position of space there is an electron uh that's composed of whatever you want to call it at the bottom level and it there's matter that pops in and out and most likely all of this together is the electron we can say that but we can't actually well let alone we can't actually pinpoint an electron on its orbit but um yeah so 0 point energy in itself it basically it seems to um accompany anywhere there's a volume of space so if you were to potentially theorize okay how you can go and harness it then effectively you consuming space and now this is where black holes become interesting because if you if you imagine a black hole because I mention a I mentioned a word here or a phrase that is an an unusual concept if you think think about it because we never actually talk about the notion of consuming space right um we we know space curves but it is it infinitely stretchable right um if it's infinitely stretchable then the it can potentially be consumed and there's like a whole different theory of gravity called the uh River um the river flow the flowing river of gravity theory that actually works better on the Co Event Horizon than our standard uh standing gravity but that's off the topic so harnessing zpe is kind of problematic uh from this perspective uh you can measure um like you said the casmer effect measures it um and there's certain level I guess of Attraction although you could it could potentially be explained by other things at the quantum level that we don't very well like for example we don't fully understand gravity at the quantum level um and all these effects to say that it is being harnessed or used um I'm very optimistic about all things but I really approach these things very spe skeptically a super optimistic and AC and you're probably really aware of this the EM drive over I think it took two decades for them to conclusively say it does not produce thrust the EM Drive was uh uh this guy built um I think even with JPL JPL definitely tested it but I remember who he was with when he built a drive that theoretically created thrust without uh without actual uh any Newtonian thrust nothing being output no Mass being ejected but theoretically was creating thrust and they kept doing experiments to try and eliminate everything else and it kept passing every single experiment and I think in the final one they showed that no it was uh something to do with the um I don't remember what the detail was but effectively uh in a pure vacuum it created in a pure vacuum it created no thrust you want to know something fun about that topic right there I'm glad you brought that up sure I can I can fill in some of the gaps so the EM Drive uh I believe absolutely it's real it's Star Trek impulse drive and you're basically pushing off the zero point fluctuations that's the idea they use a simple cone shape in order to do it it was Harold Sunny White from NASA whose paper actually still stands today it's published online anomalous thrust from em Drive they call it something else but it's em drive because they tested it they he detected small amounts of Nom thrust in fact Russia also recreated and they detected a thousand times more thrust than NASA did of course this just gets brushed off as Russian disinformation or or what have you so everybody starts panicking because to your point now we have experimental reproductions from NASA and from other people as well showing all we need is any amount of thrust even a small amount in outer space is going to scale up over time you've now completely eliminated the need for rockets and they came out and said no it was just a measurement error due to heat that that's why Sunny whites NASA guys found the anomalous thrust that's all it took took for us to throw away all the results that's all it took which is crazy to me because science is the opposite science says that if you have an anomalous result that is repeatable one person not being able to do it doesn't make it not real quite the opposite just means that person messed up you must be able to explain the observational experimental results that you're seeing this is what's so scary is that when I talk about the brainwashing we have been brainwashed and my opinion here is that they' done this many times before they've done it with cold fusion I think they did it with lk99 that room temperature superconductor I think that people are figuring out meta materials that have crazy properties and they are just doing their best to hide it because the moment this Pandora's Box slips open and people realize Zero Point Energy to answer all this stuff it's all coming out there's no there's no closing the box ever again yeah but here here's my where my skepticism comes in right the EM Drive is effectively a fairly base level uh engineering project that uh I believe it use Casmir plates if I not the Casmir plate experiment from 95 I think that's where evolved to from um it's a very basic uh construction it's not you're not building a what's it called the tomahawk nuclear uh Fusion reactor uh Fusion reactor rather you're you're building something very primitive that anyone can go and replicate it so if you have doubts you can replicate and see and test for yourself um and then for example lk99 as far as I understand uh they've detailed what any University's level student can go and replicate themselves as well it's it was publicly released so my skepticism comes that if it truly works and it truly being hidden well it's not being hidden very well nor it's very nor is it very difficult to replicate so there would be a lot more popping up and the thing with lk99 is that when the replication was being attempted they didn't see the same results now I do believe that they came to something close and I think they got a fidget like they basically what lk99 was doing they were uh experimenting with various uh portion in relation to each other to try and create the low uh well very high high heat uh what's called superconductor but High Heats since like what was it like -10° or something like that um or maybe potentially room temperature but nevertheless what I'm saying is that the skepticism comes from the fact that both of these experiments are relatively easy to replicate without Advanced Equipment and I haven't seen any of those replications and that that gives me skepticism yeah so let me address those points um starting with the me so with respect to the EM drive it has been getting replicated actually so like I said there were already replications that were successful like when you say like you didn't see them and I'm not trying to put you down from this perspective this is exactly what I'm talking about like did you even know that the Russians reproduced it and that they had a thousand times the amount of thrust that NASA found no of course not because it doesn't get reported I no I've seen the experiments I've seen that several Labs tested it and even JPL in JPL even initially said it did work and then down the line they didn't but the thing is when it's easy to show experiments when you say that I'm sure you can make a post right now to show all these additional ones that were created and replicate and see hey it works right yeah because that's the issue two thrusters let me just interrupt you for a second because I let you talk for a second but the problem with trying to like why can't you do this in your garage because the amounts of force we're talking about are minuscule and trying to collect them without within the margin of error so that it would be agre read upon evidence is extremely difficult when Harold Sunny White the guy that did the measurements of the EM drive he also was trying to show that we can actually Bend SpaceTime using a laser interferometer when they built that they had to build it on this special compression floor so that there wouldn't be even vibrations just from the earth because they're trying to get it to be as accurate as possible so the question really comes down to it's not a matter of can it be reproduced it can be it is not as simple as you can just anyone could build this improve you can prove basic concepts and that the universe is electrostatic and that there is zero point energy around there Casmir fact Etc explains it like you said this is somewhat based on the Casmir fact because instead of just taking two parallel plates you make them slightly Divergent in a triangle formation and now you're going to produce a Thrust in a specific Direction exactly what the EM Drive is doing very basic concept manipulating the zero point fluctuations but to get an effect strong enough that people will believe in is a much bigger bar than you're giving it credit for here and that's the thing that I think is the biggest problem the bar for proving is so high especially now in 2024 where anything can be video faked AI whatever I literally have two videos that I show all the time of lk99 levitating and one of them they literally use a ring thing to go around it so you can see it's flux pinned and the mezar effect is actually going on and people just ignore their eyes they say it must be fake because somebody tried to recreate it and they failed and then you say well it's really easy in theory to create a lead copper oxide combination I think it's an oxide I'm not 100% sure you would see it it should be easy like they mix it together they heat it up and they say okay there should be some inside there that randomly stuck together the way we want sure but are you going to have enough to be confident when I saw alien scientists do that with lk99 it was this tiny minuscule flake that showed some uh powerful pherom maget or di magnetic I think it's diamagnetic properties you know unusual magnetic properties but when you watch like the South Koreans and Chinese were doing it like they're using Advanced Material Science to basically like dope these metam materials it's it's not really comparable it's like uh it's a much higher quality product in the end so to me it's like we know meta materials are thing they're showing exotic properties I'm seeing it in videos I'm people are able to some people are able to reproduce at least some of the properties you know it's it my point is that it's really easy to show to claim something is not real even though people are reproducing the the major claims and effects that are involved well to that point so um I'm I'm didn't necessarily say it's not real I said there skepticism right you got to balance it too the if you're a true scientist you can't say something is 100% until it's uh like you've literally built it yourself and got exactly you postulate the experiment built it yourself and got the exact experiments that's the only way a true scientist could possibly say it's 100% even for the rest even just acknowledging I'm sure it's like 99 in a true scientist's mind but so skepticism does add it and to the point of where you said to minu skill I mean when we talk number sure 0.02 Newtons of thrust is minus skill but you can measure it in home environment all you have to do is suspend the engine and if it differs by two grams which you can go get uh enough measurements you can get the two gram Delta um that yeah you'll see it but again um obviously home environment would enough effort enough to go spend a couple thousand bucks and build it and so forth and get all the right equipment uh probably tens of thousands not just couple thousand but nevertheless it's not minus school it's not like okay you got to measure a milligram level you need some high-tech laboratory scientific exper uh Precision um and then uh and yeah by the way I did like I said I think lk99 I think we're going to hear from them because there is still like you said there were certain properties um the M fact them becoming uh magnetic it is there is some explanations for it I don't remember what when I was initial looking at it I don't remember what it was to explain it but there was some doubt either way so I I'm yeah maybe maybe I me I'm not necessar I'm not saying it exists I think if you if you check out go check out March uh American physical Society happened in Minneapolis they came back even stronger and they had like three different variants it's not lk99 because that's just like the specifical chemical composition of the previous one but they had like three different versions that were that were doped and they were showing the same the same effects again but nobody really paid attention to it because it didn't have the Fanfare like my whole point here is that people ignore it because like you said you're right we get taught we should be skeptical we should be skeptical what happens if we get to a point where we're so skeptical that we can't make progress anymore like physics has not progressed in decades these experiments these Concepts lamb shift cas effect these are real proven effects to just be like well we're just someone will figure it out eventually like people need to be asking the questions why is the why are these effects happening why is the aof bone effect happening if it's not that we are in an ether of energy what is the answer what is the answer it's not that the answer is not that it's an empty vacuum that doesn't make any sense there shouldn't be an airof bone effect then if that was the case there shouldn't be a lamb shift the hydrogen atom when it's at rest radiates energy this goes back to Quantum Mechanics why does helium 3 become a super fluid at Absolute Zero why does it not become a solid if if we've pulled all the energy out why is helium 3 not become a solid it becomes this weird Quantum fluid instead the answer should be pretty obvious because we're not at Absolute Zero we're at sea level we're at sea level and all the physics is out well that's dra so that's the thing right you sorry and I'll finish my point oh just I I'll just finished my point because I'll jum I'll listen to you afterwards and I got to jump off but this is really interesting but to the point you said so I I yes H3 should should technically become a super fluid at true absolute zero except we haven't reached absolute zero we've gotten sufficiently close but it's not the mathematical absolute zero we need and that's that's the point I was going to say is that yeah you can measure Z Point Energy it is a fluctuation but it it could be a flaw of our or not a flaw a limitation of our physics and the way we understand it of what that is right because and I'm not necessarily gonna postulate here some crazy idea but there is this concept that we kind of really don't if we were to believe in being bang big bang we are basically saying one thing space did not exist not space like outer space I mean like space like space between object did not exist it was created so if that's if that's our basis and then the space was created that space should be somehow me measurable is that artifact we're seeing obviously that's a very Lin's approach to saying it but it basically saying that we are reaching reaching the limitations of our current theorems that are explaining it and this is the results it doesn't necessarily mean that these results are indica of something within our current limitation it could be side effects of the hitting the limitation barrier in the way we understand it um but mat ashon I I really appreciate this conversation back and forth I really get a chance to express kind of a lot of things I'm I'm gonna listen to you for a bit and I'm just gonna drop off Adrian sorry for being so short up here thanks for having you up here Blaze and Adrian I'll listen for a bit and then I'll jump up thanks for Jo yeah thanks Andre I've been following you so doesn't surprise me that was a good conversation man it's fun to talk through this stuff because ultimately that's all I want I want to challenge the preconceived notions that's out there because I think that when critical thinkers and there's a lot of you out there that are critical thinkers start asking these questions it is really interesting say well why is that the case like why is it that hydrogen atom doesn't radiate energy at rest even though we know it's still moving at the quantum level and like what it really is even an electron when we think about it like we haven't really like measured an electron to a a sufficient degree it could just be like it's this if you look at a Quantum level it's like this superposition of states that the electron can be in at any given moment almost like a radiating field around an atom it's pretty interesting probability field yeah probability field yep so if Zero Point Energy were in fact being harnessed as some sort of usable human power what in Practical terms would we be talking about just a traditional movement of electrons uh if we are using it well let me I'll shift the conversation a little bit and say I don't know how many people are into crypto here but I saw an interesting fact which was that Bitcoin was at like I mean now it's going way up it was at like 67,000 and people were saying that it cost like 84,000 to mine and so you would say okay why would anyone mine Bitcoin if it's more expensive to mine the energy cost is more expensive to mine the Bitcoin than it actually cost you might say well some people are just speculating that the price is going to go up sure but if people have access to a cheaper source of energy than what is currently out there not free but cheaper maybe significantly cheaper then for those people for them to mind the Bitcoin it would be cheaper than for everybody else they'd have a leg up they basically have an Arbitrage compared to everybody else if I was producing free energy devices that were scalable had a manufacturing set up for it I would probably just set it up to mind some Bitcoin frankly and it kind of makes me wonder if part of the reason why that price that disparity exists is because people are doing that some people that know that's what I'm trying to just ask you on a physical level is when you're saying like the harnessing of energy energy speaking sort of broadly what are we talking in a practical sense are we are we talking about electricity um or something different yeah and so the people that are very interested in Cold Fusion a lot of them are looking at projects like the safire project Safi where they're trying to recreate Fusion of the Sun in plasma at small scales and their stuff is incredible the guys that are working on this feels like they know more than their kind of letting on to the public so with this technology a lot of it's being released in the form of heat but then the question is how do you convert that to electrical energy I think Beyond any shadow of a doubt people have already figured out how they can convert it to that now one thing that I was looking at recently was that there is a way where you can convert heat into electricity with piso electric materials in fact this one weird what was it called ringwoodite it's this weird conspiracy around this like water crystal is what I'm going to call it and the way you steam go ahead what's wrong with good oldfashioned steam so in this case the reason why this material is so good is that you can convert the heat to electricity through creating an asymmetrical temperature difference in the material itself so one side of it hot one side of it's cold so materials that do not conduct heat very well they are very good for this because they can absorb a huge amount of heat and it can create a very powerful asymmetry and then when this temperature asymmetry happens a voltage gets formed and current flows it's basically manipulating the piso electric the squeezing effect of like quartz crystal where you can squeeze the L I'm just curious why you keep um like even when we're doing a nuclear reaction for the process of creating power it still comes down to good oldfashioned steam so why aren't we if we have some sort of an unlimited heat Source I don't understand why we're talking about such an exotic process instead of Simply making water hot wait you want to do something easier is that's what you're saying like just just keep making water hot oh no I'm just I'm genuinely kind of curious why that um why is the answer more exotic than that the a good question honestly well why because like I said before Tesla figured out alternating current he figured out you can spin a copper coil through a magnetic field and energy electricity flows why why we say okay well the electrons are jiggling and the electrons jiggling are causing this asymmetry that can fill a capacitor like a battery for example and now we have energy flowing as long as there's an asymmetry there there's more negative charge on one side the as long as it's not neutralized energy is Flowing out and all of our power has been based on the idea of just spinning a copper coil through a magnetic field that's what steam generator or turbines are doing wind turbines is what they're all basically doing we're basically just saying instead of just spinning with our hands we're going to do that well the people that the real people who are like how can we make this more efficient this is just one engineering solution the people that the real deep thinkers are going how can we make this more efficient are there designs we can do Tesla figured this out a 100 years ago and that's where we might be able to produce systems that are more a perpetual motion they're producing more energy out coefficient of performance greater than one than they are taking in locally and if we are stuck with this idea of we have to take this alternate route of spinning this generator of course we're never going to get coefficient or performance greater than one we've we've given up and said that we're just going to going to stick with this method that we know rather than trying to make it more efficient and when we do this the way Tom Bearden would describe it who is a like 30-year plus Lieutenant Colonel engineer uh in Black projects would say that you're allowing your di Poole to collapse which is the idea of you're allowing the battery to become neutralized if you were just to allow the battery to have a natural asymmetry where there's more negative charge on one side than the other that battery will perpetually provide you power because what you've done is you've basically opened up a conduit into the Z point energy into The Ether or Quantum fluctuations whatever you want to call them honestly so now the question is like we should just look for a more efficient way than spinning a copper coil through a magnetic field we should be going that's inefficient well it works really well it works it's it's satisfactory but we can potentially get infinite energy it's like you know like uh you know just like saying any primitive form of extracting fuel or pumping oil is like it's good enough like no we gotta like you know we take it to its logical extreme that's the next level that's the level Beyond solar power and there's an argument to be made that instead of trying to take it to its extreme when it cannot even be demonstrated that you should perhaps focus on doing a very very basic and effective show that it works first go more exotic later but demonstrate like if you have something that can produce nearly unlimited heat turning that into useful electricity is not the problem so I don't I guess I'm I'm a little puzzled about why you're focusing so much on these sort of exotic unproven methods of generating useful electricity from this if we truly have the potential to just have unlimited heat on demand yeah I mean bro if that's your uh approach that's totally fine I'm sure they were considering if they can use that heat to just heat up water and spin a turbine maybe absolutely maybe trying to R outc energy problems forever so other than that yes well yeah and that's the thing about it once you open this door it's not like there's only one way to pull this off you know but of course people are looking for more and more efficient ways to do it because the problem itself to Adrian's Point earlier why is it not already done because commercialization isn't an instant thing that's why I said the same reason why we didn't have electric cars widespread until Tesla it's not that electric cars weren't possible it's that commercializing them is a risk it's an investment there were electric cars long before Tesla the company they were not commercialized to the degree that they were when until Tesla until Elon came sure I'm just saying that that they existed there's 100y old electric car and they and and fusion power has been shown to be possible and what I'm saying here has been shown to exist as well and I'm saying that there's even scientific papers that that that show it that's still going on today they're still trying to advance it and and things like that they're trying to make it more efficient end of the day the the final boss is how do you commercialize it how do you bring it to Market what's the price point for it like it's great if if a device that can produce energy unlimitedly it exists out there and it can power itself as a Perpetual emotion it's great but what if it cost a million dollars well now it doesn't matter you're never going to make your money back energy is expensive but not that expensive you have unlimited energy you'll make a million dollars back no that's not how it works again there's a rate there's a rate to the amount of energy you're producing these devices are not a situation where your rate that you're producing is unlimited so this is the reason why we're engineering it this is the reason why we're not just simply boiling some steam and steaming it using the old old methods we're not trying to a achieve we're not just trying to achieve spinning a turbine we're trying to achieve a situation where we have access to unlimited energy where we can just flip a power switch and everything turns on and we don't need a burn anything there's no byproducts no negative byproducts I should say anyway I don't know the argument of like why are we trying hard isn't really a fruitful kind of back and forth I would just say that you know no I was just trying to pick your brain and get a feel for for um some of your responses okay well I'm not going to get debated anymore into this guy's weird discussions Adrian what are your thoughts man you've been really quiet yeah I've been a little busy here but uh yeah one thing I will have to say though I mean when you when it comes to something that's readily available I think some solar power is definitely better still I mean sure you know you could pursue this and maybe somebody is already pursuing this and we not know of this until it comes out to the form that it is actually scalable scalable without creating any dangerous you know you said yourself that let's say this stuff exists that it could be very dangerous right okay let's agree let's agree on that we are still technically running around with lithium in our pockets which I'd argue is also dangerous but is not dangerous enough so look looking at so I use solar power myself I've used it for years it's It's very effective it does very well um granted the efficiency is technically low although it does increase and the price manufacturing and the you know the the the the cost itself actually goes down efficiency increases the cost goes down so right now I think we're at 21% efficiency that's for the Chinese solar cells so granted of course you know if you take manufacturers from elsewhere yeah they are way too [ __ ] expensive and the efficiency is not even at the peak and even if it is it's probably just a resold Chinese version so that's that's what I'm running on right now and I could tell you it's actually pretty damn good that is of course if you have the sun you still need a good battery and it's improving at a crazy rate the efficiency is improving it's not flatlining what I actually want is a more compressed battery like that's what it would we really need and kind of it's funny because if you go back to the example of what Ashton said with a chip in your phone that basically you know charges forever I mean that's just using the universe as a battery isn't it yeah yeah it is and uh so in terms of battery production the reason the difference between a battery capacitor is a capacitor can discharge much faster but it doesn't store energy as long as a battery does but there's something called a super capacitor which actually is more like a battery but can release energy very quickly as well and then you say well why aren't they using that well they're thinking about it and they're trying to and they're using Gra is one of the materials that potentially can that can pull that off uh but that would be a big help um solar cells like you said are only about 20% efficient on average right now and can they advance of course they can advance they haven't really advanced in the last 20 years uh but that's not to say they're not trying I mean there are people claiming that they can produce like 80% efficiency what I had heard was that these have been like banned SLS supressed out there because the people that are figuring this out are broaching on the IDE aidea of where how are they able to get so efficient like they're they're borderline right on the limit of where conventional physics says efficiency should no longer become possible and the big question is if if we have 80% efficiency solar panels why are we not using them all to to flip your argument back around on you if this is all possible and you can Google it right now like I'm looking at to see the documents on on on it and the claims on it why why does everything not 80% efficient isn't that more efficient than 20% because the answer is it's commercialization right that's holding it back there are barriers that it's not as simple as if it exists everybody would have it sure yeah commercialization is one thing but but we're still at and and forgive me for being a bit skeptical Ashton I'm just I'm just trying to ask questions and try to understand your position um but at least you know if we're talking something like solar power there's no doubt that it we can demonstrate its Effectiveness we can we can demonstrate that it works but you're still at sort of like point a in terms of being able to demonstrate that this technology even is viable even can be repeatable so to me you sort of have to start with step a which is to show that there is potential there to show that there actually is you know before you talking about commercialization and getting to highly efficient and all these things we have to show that it works yeah people are already doing that people are already now whether or not I can't vouch for other people's claims but the one lab that I'm most interested is is the the 8 I think they call it the energy with a GI cell device but they're basically using cold fusion to produce uh they call it catalyzed Fusion but essenti essentially unlimited energy there's another one that goes called the ecat which I'm not endorsing at all because I don't really trust Andrea rosi but there are people that are doing that and so I guess what I'm saying is this is that I'm just a Herald for this information I'm not trying to be the experimental scientist the guy that tries to prove it part of the reason is because a I already know it's real and I just want to help spread the word for people and the awareness for people but also B because the standard of proof these days has become so backwards like I've been explaining a lot of these examples you can reproduce it number of times but the moment one person comes across there's a saying in like science that all it takes is four prominent people to come out and speak out against something and then it won't be considered real in the case of cold fusion it was like the department of energy MIT these respected institutions came out and said nope can't be possible we disagree erase all that right that's what I see already already happening with this science I'm just trying to push it along and to challenge people's preconceived notions so that as these things are coming out and like with respect to the 8 energy cell thing they are trying to get it more efficient my outside pers I don't have any inside knowledge they're trying to increase coefficient or performance they're trying to make it so that the heat energy is getting converted to electrical energy however that is required at an efficient rate but even those situations these are public projects that are out there you guys could check them out this is not how far Advanced we really are the government the military the defense contractors are decades beyond what the public is aware of and that's why it's not as simple as hey you just produce this I'm not living in the world of just what the public knows I'm looking and talking to the engineers who are the Black Project Engineers who know the stuff the public has no idea about and I won't say that necessarily everything I'm saying is absolutely correct maybe I'm getting some stuff wrong but I'd say that a majority of it is legit and just the Zero Point Energy aspect being real it's going to change everything everything about our civilization it's worth if there's a 1% chance 0.1% chance that it's real it's worth investing some time into to confirming or rejecting that that hypothesis sure and I'm glad that we have people that are investigating it and I'm glad that there're I think almost everything sort of like weird spiritualism ghost things should be investigated and even that to a degree but um but I do agree um with um I forget his name what the previous speaker was saying too just that there should be also natural skepticism and skepticism isn't the same thing as dismissal it's just a stance of okay like show me it working show me you have to be able to and I'm not not saying you I'm saying just in general people need to be able to demonstrate um some sort of tangible demonstration that the concept works in the real world and is more than just a string of words well that's the thing let me let me throw at you this what is that standard of proof for you what does that look like so let's just say take the C Fusion example taking plasma producing excess energy I mean that's already happened why why was that not enough for you what would it what would it really take for you top what are you asking specifically what specifically what does proof look like to you does that mean that you you know Joe B come out and say like hey this is legit do we need the department of energy to stand by Authority very strange to bring up Joe Biden um well okay you should be able to go okay you should be able to go into a desert away from any influence and and demonstrate it generating some sort of measurable electricity or measurable field in some way that cannot be explained by conventional means and you should be able to do it repated if you record this no matter what you do people are going to say you're cheating you get that like that's what I'm saying these there are videos of people doing what so then what you're saying though is that the now the goal posts are every single person on the planet needs to see it for themselves which is an acceptable answer or an acceptable argument to make but it's just not very practical okay I'm asking for a basic demonstration I'm not saying you have to go on a world tour the funny part is people have gone on world tours Bob Lee went on a 47 state tour to try to explain to people that magnetism could be used to generate overunity coefficient performance greater than one the Liberty motor again please just Google Liberty engine find the version two video there's a followup where they literally go out into the middle of a forest next to a road in the middle of nowhere dozens of miles if not hundreds of miles away from power lines and people's response when they're literally watching a power a computer computer a water pump and power tools things that take a significant amount of energy is that oh they must have buried a power line underneath the ground in the middle of the forest my point being there is no standard of proof there is no standard of proof other than there is better proof and there is worse proof we might not ever be to 100% but we should be able to approach 100% that means that if we that everything should be okay think of just to think of an example off the top of my head The MythBusters as an example you should be able to disprove all of the possible arguments so you're saying for example like oh somebody might have buried a wire somebody might have done this somebody might be hitting it with a microwave okay so then systematically go down that list and start Crossing them off but cross those off in a way that you can systematically demonstrate it calmly and repeatably and don't be offended or angry if people are skeptical because people being skeptical is sort of the core of reason and the core of science is that the same thing you would say if someone says like hey the Earth is flat would you say hey you should just be I was really worried about it because I'm not worried about that because that doesn't affect me I don't care if somebody cares that the Earth is but if I actually was worried about that's exactly my view of your opinion on Cold Fusion it doesn't matter what you think doesn't affect me so when you're like hey you should be like really nice to me and even though I'm super understand basic question I'm bringing up stupid arguments like hey we discovered fire why should we go further than this like I'm being really nice to you about that at the same time but I'm still entertaining your arguments end of the day I already know it's real so why should I really even bother principles you're doing a very bad job of convincing people if you can't if you just dismiss anybody who has like the basic of skepticism um that's not very convincing and like that's what you do with flat Earth right again I'm I'm just a little confused because I thought that you wanted to convince people sorry you're kind of staticy you wanted I I didn't I didn't hear your last message um I just said I'm a little confused because I thought that you wanted to convince people no that's not what I'm trying to do no I mean I wanted to convince Adrien because because I think he's influential and I like his content I think he's curious about Advanced science and technology in general end of the day I'm not really trying to convince anybody end of the day I realize like I said before my view is that most people have been blinded and brainwashed to a degree where the standard of proof has become essentially impossible which is stagnated physics entirely and this is why we cannot progress anymore because we've reached this level where we have this idea in our head that I just need a demonstration and I'm not trying to rag on you here this is what you brought up as a very common point that people bring up all I need is a demonstration all you have to do is show it to me and then I point out a dozen examples where people have done that and nothing's happened and that people have just continually moved the goalposts because that's what really happens and so for me if that's the case why would I'm not really trying to convince people people that are open-minded I'm trying to spread the knowledge I'm trying to get them to think outside the box end of the day I don't want people to believe me like a religious leader I just want people to come to the conclusion on their own that doesn't make sense that space is empty does it really make sense that it's empty how is an electromagnetic wave going through space basic questions like that to break down in my opinion just my opinion the brainwashing that we've all been under and again I don't mean this I I really don't mean to offend you at all because I've been in your position where I've been the guy that's skeptical guy that would say the same things that you're saying right now and it's hard to break away from that idea that maybe I have been like conditioned to think that for example free energy is impossible and it's a misnomer free energy isn't just free for everybody it's just the supply of energy that's out there when we say when I say free energy I'm saying Zero Point Energy is out there and can be accessed so how do you intend to harness it you specifically if your goal is not to convince people yet you're so focused and passionate about this what would you like to have happened in in 5 years what what is your ideal scenario in regards to this where would we be in five years if everything goes the way that you would want great question because that's one I think about all the time the answer is one I'm gonna learn how to build a circuit because I'm not as interested in building a magnetic motor I think that's PR old technology I want to build a microchip that either produces free energy uh can be used as a communication device or also can be used as an anti-gravitational device or all of the above that's what I want to produce and if I were in a position where I was like some position in the government related to energy uh then that's where I would be looking to have the United States government invest in its money injecting investments into really semiconductors because semiconductors is actually a wide range of electrical components and trying to get to be the smallest May a to produce the smallest uh most precise and uh highest quality you know chips in the entire world that's what I'll be trying to do that's what I want to do and plan to do okay yeah and I wasn't trying to be rude but it's like you can't convince everybody of this man like if if people are really I understand that I yeah I understand you can't convince everybody but you should be able to at least have a valiant attempt at convincing your immediate audience I think I did a pretty good job but you know I I've got a lot of experience talking to people now uh I listed several scientific papers and people that done reproduced things like for em Drive Charles ber 3,000 experiments of electrostatics he's convinced that it does stuff then you would say well why why is the EM drive not happening well because he doesn't have the funding because it's not as simple uh you know lab uh stuff lab research is is expensive there's a lot of variables go involved not everybody's a business a lot of things like that so um there are people I I've listed the the science that that shows the stuff's real the experiments like the lamb shift and C effect that show us out there and I just urge that people look into it for themselves the same way that I have because just again for example if you start looking at the papers around energy extraction around exotic vacuum objects by Ken's shoulders um around wormholes and warp drives you're going to see the Casmir effect mentioned basically every single time because these guys who are Black Project engineers and physicists like they learned a while back that hey this Casmir effect is really weird this shows there must be something out there and hey you can kind of explain it as a negative energy density which you say Oh you mean that could be what negative energy really is and that's why everybody is trying to exploit the Casmir effect like the Casmir effect is an attractive effect this is amazing because kolom effect charge effect if we take two negative charges or two positive charges we try to jam them together it's like trying to Jam a magnet together two North magnets together you're going to have this repulsion they call the kulon repulsion so if we can have the Casmir effect overcoming or equalizing the kolon repulsion now we can have a stable orientation where maybe we can produce something like a dipole that stays open all the time which is just an asymmetry of charges so that's my that's my final kind of pitch to the to the audience out there okay well I appreciate uh the discussion to be honest and uh you know and I apologize too if I sometimes come across as overly skeptical but I think um somebody from your position should probably become used to uh skepticism and I don't mean that in a in a negative way Chad am I you're you're you have an uphill battle right you have to convince you don't have to but it's probably in your interest to at least convince some people um and for that to happen you're going to have to be starting from a position of them being skeptical right like that's just the default of how it is anytime that you're trying to have a discussion with somebody um of this type of thing this this this sort of theoretical physics is always going to be faced with skepticism right like is that fair to say oh yeah I've got I mean of course man of course I do I sit here talk about teleporting airplanes and and in the biggest conspiracy of all time of free energy hiding from the world so totally understand skepticism I'm very very used to it I'm used to haters as well I mean not only does does it breed skepticism which is of course natural but there's an also an angry reaction by a lot of people that I never expected digging into this You' think that everybody would want free everybody would want this to be real because if it's real well wow everything changes but a lot of people get angry and resist it which is why it reminds me a little bit of the Matrix where it's like the agents are all around you and the the people that are plugged in sometimes ignorance is bliss like if this technology were a doomsday weapon that has reset civilizations and wiped out countless civilizations then maybe ignorance is bliss maybe people are hiding it for a good reason I I think about that almost every day to be truthful with you I don't know if I can believe that though I don't know if I could say if people got to Zero Point Energy that it would be an end of civilization I don't know said notless people just nuked each other other than that I can come up with a dozen reasons how Zero Point Energy is completely possible with the physics we currently have today and the materials we currently have today I've been doing currently research on it all the time over the last few years I've been working on it since I was a practically a teenager when I started first starting learning physics and then I moved up into the industry and I started learning more and went on the road as a truck driver and kept pushing my skills and started studying more and it gave me more opportunity and more time to study which gave me more access to more knowledge and more researchers and I kept sending my papers into more a scientist and had them run the physics on it and run the math on it when I didn't know how to do the math at the time and so far we've been able to actually prove quite a lot of the actual stuff is completely possible at least Through Math I mean there's no reason why we can't use the Casmir force and a a fusion based system to provide enough energy for a field that would completely work like thanks Josh I appreciate you brother and that's the thing right is like if there are so many engineers that message me direct message me text me and they're like dude you're a legend thank you for for talking about this stuff and I don't mean this to Pat myself on the back I don't have as big an ego as I as I come off across as but it's amazing to me because it tells me there's a lot of people like Josh here I hope you don't mind me calling you Josh Joshua whatever you want but that they know is real they know that Zero Point Energy is real that it's out there and it can be harnessed can be used on real scales and that we're getting better and better at doing it and that it's going to start coming out in a major way and I think it's just going to get more and more Awkward because yes to to the point Benjamin was bringing up which is was totally rational one and realistic one it's like people are very skeptical at some point The Floodgate just breaks open right like what does it look like when we do admit that this is real what what does that world look like I honestly I I don't really know but for me that's the one thing where I will humbly disagree with uh Josh on is that I do think that it's it's nuclear weapons are dangerous but generally countries have control over nuclear weapons when we get to a point and I'm holding my cell phone up here where the nuclear weapon or the thing that's a a million times more powerful than the nuclear weapon is now in my phone the size of my phone now the next religious fundamentalist group that gets formed or cult that gets formed is going to potentially be able to steal or have access to a weapon that can destroy the entire country in an object the size of our phone that's what I think the people hiding this are really afraid of is that the weapon the technology just keeps getting better and then it just becomes a matter of time become before the weapons become so efficient that someone's going to make something like this sounds absurd but it's not really is a black hole weapon like something that's going to make a black hole the whole plan's going to sucked in we're all wiped out end of civilization I don't know about that all I can say really is is the fact is is what is possible the possibility of doing a Zero Point Energy System could be completely possible in our future very soon actually right now researchers have gotten so good that right now we're doing little black holes inside of a lab that that is insane no one would ever thought that was possible I make clear no one thought that was possible to actually just try to do that but we did and uh scientists have gotten without with their current research and everything we got today there's no reason why we can't have a fusion reactor that supplies over at least 500 gwatt of energy with no problem and with the current system and the stuff I build I run simulations it works and I'm talking about full simulation to run the system to make sure it cover enough for the whole grid as well as I included all all chance of anything that might go wrong into the system and all that stuff and it ran and it worked so I mean that's the reason why investors are reaching out and that's why things are happening so I mean we're right around the corner do I think that there will be weapons and stuff like that we've had a fusion bomb since like uh between right after World War I that we started figuring out vision and bombs and then after that we created a fusion we've had it this whole time we just I don't know why they decided to hold off research for so long maybe greed money I don't know yeah no I think I you you might be right look I love to have the optimistic approach I want to be wrong on this for sure the other thing I will I I just noticed that Benjamin's into Ai and I think a lot of people in the chat are as well so I want to bring up this other point which is that not only is a lot of this stuff experimentally true and the public just has no idea or like what Joshua said it's just it's true and these guys are literally engineering it and the public just has no idea um but also AI is going to figure this out soon AI is already amazing I use AI for looking up a lot of can only figure out what is actually true it cannot figure out that which is not physically possible no simp throwing a ey out of problem doesn't make a solution emerge out of the universe it has to actually be existent that's why it's going to figure it out because it all exists the moment the AI gets fed all the scientific papers that I've been reading that are out there the AI is going to start spitting out anti-gravity answers free energy answers to people and what if the opposite happens it's not but whatever if it does it does uh because the other thing too is we might teach it to lie because what's going to happen is people are GNA go wait what you're telling me that we can create a scaler potential but well Maxwell reduced heavy sides equations and we got rid of the scaler potential what if the AI comes back and says oh the scal potential is actually manipulating Gravity the longitudinal wave Through The Ether people are going to start going well no I wasn't taught that this is what I'm afraid of this is why I'm an influencer because like when that happens I want to make sure that people are like no don't go tell the AI to correct itself like the AI is trying to tell you that the scientific papers are already done and once they're part of this model and then once the AI actually starts to achieve AG GI General Advanced general intelligence then the AI is going to start arguing back like hey this has already been shown the Casmir effect and lamb shift already prove it and people like Joshua and these other scientists that are out there that aren't really known if their data can start getting fed into an AI it's going to figure this out like I'm giving it less than five or 10 years and people are going to be wondering why is the AI telling me cold Fusion's possible why is the AI telling me that we should use a magnetic motor produce a free energy device Ash I really think you're right I really think you're right between Ai and what's coming because I currently feed my AI information constantly throughout all the physics I've learned and stuff like that I've gone in I fed my AI the information and I I went through and buil all in all the equations went through done everything and about time I done that I was able to even create the uh because but I'm also not a coder but also my wife is so was a able to generate enough code so she could use it and then she wrote her own stuff and then she created a simulation system and then she was able to run the simulation herself which and then we were able to see the simulation results so it it was quite amazing just to know that was even a possible compared to like here the things like I never thought today would be a day where if I wanted to know enough information all I do is have to uh feed chat GPT and just enough information where it understands the physics and the understand but it ain't like it's just you ask it how to make a nuclear reactor and it tells you how to make nuclear react you have to give it all the information as well as every part in the system and and sometimes you have to Define what the parts do I mean you're not just s magically get a uh any type of llm to do that for you I've not been able to find one that can do it I have to feed it with a lot of data I mean no that's and that you had the same experience that happened to me because I was a little bit skeptical about the AI figuring it out as well and in generally guys I'm actually skeptical guy in general I just happened across possibly the biggest conspiracy ever in terms of free energy but somebody sent me their AI where they had FedEd all of Tom bearden's work uh he had looked in scaler physics this idea that Tesla was right Maxwell was right there is an ether that's out there we can interact with this medium we can transmit longitudinal waves to the medium and create a interference pattern uh at a distance inter a scaler interferometer like crossing the streams and uh Ghostbusters and reproduce energy at a distance wireless energy basically and somebody had fed the AI all his work and I started asking questions and it was crazy I mean it was like you could ask it questions about how to produce free energy and it would just spit out the answers for you now if you're going to say like well I wanted to give me a step by step on how to produce a free energy device that's little different but if you wanted to tell you all the concepts and how to understand the concepts it does a really really good job and that's why I gave the example earlier is like literally once people feed these AIS all these scientific papers like the same way where Twitter is you know an open market place of ideas and not being censored if we do that same thing and feed all the scientific papers to these AIS they're going to start spitting out to you guys the answers to anti-gravity the answers to free energy cold fusion literally or they'll Echo what we've told them already yes that is a a major problem and it will require significant amounts of experimentation and iteration I'm not convinced I don't know Benjamin if that's true though I don't know if with the current research I have today I can build a nuclear reactor from zero all the way up with that's not new physics I'm not talking about Vision I'm talking about Fusion okay we can build Fusion reactors too we just can't do it in an energy positive way I'm just saying that that's that's not true there's still that's what I'm saying we can oh okay then we agree I misunderstood you no we we can build a fusion reactor today if we wanted to that's the reason why I was saying like if you go into my research and my profile I can show how exactly step by step I mean I can't post everything on here because it won't let me but I did break it down enough where it is broke down where other people can understand it and I I also am limited about about what I'm allowed to post and stuff like that so I have to be careful on what I do talk about now because now I'm actually getting into the investment stage and they're not very happy about me just talking about certain things that's a big aspect of it too though is the commercialization aspect has a lot more things related to it barriers related to it like people then everybody starts seeing dollar signs right and some people argue oh you should make it all open source Well everybody's got to eat man everybody's got to make money here or there so of course people see dollar signs that's why in economics price is King price is always money is always the biggest thing so people sign ndas this is part of the reason why you don't hear people talk about it as openly and then everybody's always afraid that somebody else is going to steal their idea I've been joking but also very serious at the same time of the idea of stealing the Casmir cavity idea that Bernard ha and Garrett modal patented it expires in two years do you guys know that technology patents only last 18 years versus like media for like movies and stuff like that video games last for 75 years or sometimes in the lifetime of the the holder this means that if you're going through the process like joshu was talking about that can be years funding you know building a company what have you by the time you actually get online your patent might only have 12 10 years left on it and at that point now you've made all your information publicly known about your product and people can just take it and they can use it themselves that's actually the era of patents patents are probably going to be uh an archaic thing very soon I believe if if you believe that AI is going to have the dramatic changes that you describe in terms of going so far as to having these emerging Technologies which are basically Science Fiction come out of artificial intelligence basically then I don't think that patents have any the way that we do patents currently is going to fade away very quickly I really hope that's true Benjamin because right now the patent system and the amount of data theft that's going on right now and how much people can just steal your information out from under you is like crazy and it's like it's like the biggest amount of theft in the world going on right now and everyone turns head and looks the other way it's it's just insane and China $600 billion dollar worth of United States intellectual property every year every single year it's a big issue especially if that technology is like magic you know and I I I resent the Sci-Fi interpretation what I'm talking about is not based on science fiction whatsoever what I'm talking I'm not calling it sci-fi I'm saying what we would consider previously to be considered sci-fi but then again not that long ago an airplane was considered sci-fi I'm just saying near future technology that we have not yet built I got your point I wasn't I wasn't offended I was just saying um but yeah yeah you're right so it's you know yeah in fact when the Wright brothers first figure out flight they were recording themselves flying around and nobody would people wouldn't even come report on it because they thought that the idea of flight was just some impossibility when the telephone was first figured out the guy uh the one of the first guys that was selling the telephone or maybe the first guy that invented it he actually The Story Goes and this was over a hundred years ago so who knows but that he got thrown in jail because he was trying to sell the telephones like door Todo and people thought he was a scammer they thought there's no way that voice could transmit through wires they thought that that was just pseudo science so the point being of course that what seems like magic for some people for ends up being just stuff we accept to be real the same way where I look at my cell phone right now and I can talk to people on this wirelessly play music interact on the internet if you were to show people this cell phone a hundred years ago they might have burnt you at the stake of some kind of some kind of witch you know absolutely uh but I really think there should be some sort of safety system built for all the data that's coming through every device we already got IPS assigned to us we already got all their datas being stored and and almost as if there's a filing system specifically for us and there's no reason why all that data should not be assigned to that person and Pat to to that person there's some system I know we can build I'm not really a coder but I mean I know a ton about physics an engineering I guess but maybe there's somebody some that come up with some sort of system that would allow that to be in and then we can put it in the law and actually have it as a thing because right now we have the largest amount of data theft in history my stuff gets stolen from all the time and I see it show up and I just don't say much about it because what's the point yeah sorry that happens man um I gotta drop guys it's late I got a flight in the morning but uh Benjamin Joshua Adrien uh bli everybody else that got the chat today thank you very much and all the amazing uh people in the uh Channel listening in uh while I was a little bit contentious on saying that I'm not trying to convince people at the end of the day of course I'm trying to get people open their minds up to Zero Point Energy so if you're a skeptic if you're a Believer whatever you are thank you very much for listening either way I appreciate it and just a quick shout out check out my Hodge twins podcast that should be dropping on Friday talk a lot about this science talk about the basis for it some of the evidence for it Etc so thanks guys one of the one of the things that I listen to yeah one of the things I listen to regards to this is I just listen to everything and I like to just be entertained by it so so like that's the reason why I actually bring up bring you up here is because I just like to hear people out no matter how crazy the idea is I still like to hear people out that's how that's how it is with me and you can see the same thing also you politically like over the last year I've had like people who are extremely far right people who are extremely far left everybody on the stage it's it's absolutely insane and uh yeah I just like to hear people out it's funny it's fantastic yeah it's fun man I like listening to your conversation sometimes I I sneak in on Anonymous mode as well but I I appreciate you man so thanks take it easy guys been fun conversation thanks man take it easy have a great night later Ash thanks you Ash okay chat boo boo boom that was fun three and a half hours very long stream tonight I got a pack I realized I gotta get up early too so it's going to be gonna be a lot probably not a stream on Friday maybe maybe not I'm going out of town for a another podcast interview taking the day off of work uh maybe two days off of work I don't remember so uh thank you guys for watching I appreciate it it was fun I I like the ones that are more contentious it gets boring if everybody just agrees with you I like to be challenged here and there I thought I did a fine job I hope I wasn't too offensive to him or anything like that I try to like just play back to the other the level person their person of irrit irritableness okay guys have a great night uh peace out everyone um I'm I'm going to play us out with this other song infrared eyes scanning the black tracking the heat never turning back and roll 22 a covert gaze and roll 33 in the cosmic Maze and rolls in the mix Secrets Untold silent Watchers Brave and Bold in the shadows they silently Glide protecting our interests far and wide Asar Sentinel of the night 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