MH370x - Troll Hunting Special Edition feat. John Greenewald 2/15/24

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# MH370x - Troll Hunting Special Edition feat. John Greenewald 2/15/24 Malaysian 370 contact 120 decimal 9. Good night. Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. [Music] God. [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita. Vishnu is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him. Takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." Okay, everybody. Welcome to tonight's troll hunt. Happy to have you here. I am your host, Ashton Forbes. Tonight, we will be looking for them trolls in them woods. Uh we're gonna start with that. But first, before we get into the fun stuff, let's start with a recap. So, yesterday we had an awesome space with uh Jake Chansley where we talked about advanced technology, technology being kept hidden from us. I saw Keemstar pop in and I was like, "Oh, Keemstar popped in near the end." Turned out that they wanted to do another space because I'd had this uh like psycho guy named Chris or average Chris on on Twitter um just go lose his total mind, right? Start writing like whole diary uh whole diary passages about me. Like just completely lost it. And and then he called in all his ground support as well. So what what's been going on the last few days? Well, so I you guys know I talked to ARO. So I either talked to ARO or somebody was impersonating uh a an officer, which would be I'm guessing that's a felony you go to prison for. So I'm yeah 99.9% sure I was really talking to ARO. And then uh one sec after I want to fix my camera here. It's a little bit better. So after uh the ARRO thing, this is where this average Chris guy who was inside, he was in the UFO um Skyfire news chat and he kept posting all this fake crap like all these editorials and things and he's like claiming that he's debunked all these people and in the UFO community and stuff like this and I and like the whole Soul Foundation too. He's like sitting there thinking he's got like uh Colonel Nell and stuff and like lies and I'm going, "Dude, you quoted an editorial from the Skeptical Inquirer. It's not exactly a fact-based uh organization, right?" And so he loses his mind, right? And so then I start calling him out trying to ask like why what are these people's deals? Like these skeptics out there, like the militant skeptics or whatever you call them, like why are they wasting so much of their energy like attacking people that they have nothing to do with? and like they'll tell you it's like, "Oh, they're not telling the truth." But the truth is not that simple. It's not like they're the arbiters of truth, right? Um and so he can't like admit the fact that he's got some kind of weird savior complex. This average Chris guy and a lot of them do. Like a lot of these debunkers have this savior complex where they think that they're like saving everyone from the dangerous misinformation. Like it's super weird, man. Like you should, no one in their right mind should ever act that way. Just if something you don't like something or you think something's wrong, just move on and live your life. Go do something productive. The average Chris guy, this is what I told him is he needs to go like get a job or get a hobby, you know, like do literally anything else. So he flips out. He starts writing dear diary passages about me. And then he calls in his buddy uh Osiris who apparently his name is Jeremy McGawan. And today earlier I was finding out someone was posting that um that there might be some kind of weird like harboring a pedophile connection to this guy. Weird [ __ ] Um so anyway, Jeremy McGawan, he he does a foyer about my ARO thing because he and Chris get in their little nutty heads that like I'm lying about and they're going to prove me wrong, right? Right. And I and I literally tell Chris, "Yeah, good luck, man." Cuz like I literally know I'm not lying, so you're just going to make yourself look like an idiot. Um, and so of course he doubles down on it because that's what idiots do, right? They double down. Like they can't just be like, "Dude, maybe we're wrong. Maybe the guy isn't lying about talking to AR." No, they're like convinced that they're going to bear some fruit from this foyer request or something. And I'm just sitting here like, "God, these guys are morons." And that's not enough, right? So then the Joe Rogan stuff happens. And this happened days ago, like honestly a week ago at this point, the Joe Rogan stuff happened, right? And I had decided um I was even thinking about before the Joe Rogan stuff to like, you know, retire from the investigation due to all the nuttiness that's been going on and like how insane a lot of these people are, which you guys heard it on display and we're going to go through it a little bit tonight, like how literally off their rocker these people are. Um because I was thinking like I need to step away from this. these people have they've gotten like emotionally invested in like they've created some weird parasocial relationship to me that doesn't exist in their minds and like I either owe them stuff or like you know I don't know why they're so connected to me. It's just it's super super bizarre, man. Um, and so I had retired there. And so in their guy's mind, the thing is I had made the decision like days before this weird a stuff, right? And I even told a couple people. The first person I t told was Florence Ducheni. And then all of a sudden these guys, because they're nut jobs, right? Like average Chris and this uh Osiris Jeremy McGawan guy and this other local 5.56 nut job. These guys are literally nut jobs. Um, I actually mean that they actually need mental health. It's not like a joke. Like they need to go like talk to a psychiatrist or whatever. The one guy we're going to see is like walking around in Iraq with guns pretending like he's like guarding people or something, right? Like if he's actually a military contractor, the type of nut jobber that he was doing in the uh in the chat and then posting pictures of himself like on operation or whatever he's doing, like he's going to get his clearance taken away. Like that's just guaranteed, right? like there's a reason I don't talk about my job, right? You're never supposed to talk about it. And so immediately these idiots like they think that oh well since I made the announcement I don't even know if if my announcement came before or after their weird a [ __ ] cuz I wasn't even thinking about them. Then they decide that oh in their nut job brains they think that oh we made Ashton ret we made Ashton retire. It's us. We're so like this is how narcissistic they are. They think that it's like they think that I'm actually afraid of a foyer request to a where I literally talk to a receipts. So they think that I'm retiring because what I'm going to be embarrassed or something like these guys are so [ __ ] stupid guys. So these idiots, right? They are I just can't believe so. And so like why would I even correct them, right? I could show the DMs with Joe Rogan anytime. So they get in their mindset that also I'm lying about the Joe Rogan stuff, right? So this is how like uh if you're like too deep in the conspiracy where you're like a nut job where this is what happens to you, right? Is first of all they think I'm lying about Joe Rogan. So they make a bunch of posts about that, right? And why would I correct them? I I'm going to give them as much rope as they want to hang themselves, right? Like I just don't it doesn't matter to me what they think, right? And I have the proof I can break out at any moment I want. Right? So like let them go look like idiots. Let them dig themselves into a corner. And they all did, right? They all did. And so then I show the the partial DMs to Keemstar, even though I didn't really want to do it because stuff was leaking out of that chat. But I show it to Keemstar. I'm like, "Here you go. Here's the proof that I was talking to Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan invited me on. I have I have more proof, too. I just don't need to show it." Right? And um so then they they realize that they're wrong, right? And so then they start backtracking. Oh, well now he's retiring because our ARO foyer request when logically like if you're going to come up with a a scenario, you should at least blame it on the Joe Rogan thing, right? Which is what Skyfire did. So Skyfire puts out this post that says Joe Rogan influences Ashton Forbes to quit the MH370 investigation, which is also not true. I mean to a point like you I you know what I said is like all the big podcasters are you know if they're going to believe these debunks then there's not really a way forward anyway. But the real reason is because of all the haters and the nut jobs like on both sides, you know, and my opinion already is like I've already come to the conclusion that the science is real. And I know that's hard for people to believe. I just don't really care like I like I mentioned yesterday. Um so it's fine by me if we wait a little bit longer. Like the science will eventually get out and these people will be proven wrong again. Um but you know, in their own minds though, like they think that it's all about them, right? They think that somehow everything's about them, that I'm all the stuff that I'm doing is about them. And they have a huge emotional meltdown yesterday. I never even heard of this local 5.56 loser. He's just some random loser. And uh I never even heard of him before. For some reason, he's on the space and this guy's having a fullon emotional meltdown. Like I have never met him before. No idea who he is. And it's like you'd think that he was like my ex-girlfriend that I had cheated on her or something. Like that's how angry he was. It was just bizarre, man. We're going to go through some clips because wow. Um and then oh boy. So so much stuff happened. So of course those people in their foyer request has nothing to do with the reason why I'm stepping away and we still got a month to go. So we still got work to do. Um so then today the Osiris guy uh what was it? So I call out how did this even play out? Let's let's take a look chat. Let's look together. God, I can't even remember how this all played out. This is just so goddamn weird, man. And it just goes to show the whole community in general. So, I post this MH370 uh repost this because it didn't get enough views and back in September, right? Where some of these idiots think that like this hurts the families or something. Dude, you've got the families on record here saying that the plane that it was a cover up and that the plane didn't crash. Like literally, the families are saying that, man. Um, and so then I don't even know how this played out. Oh yeah. So then Chris does his whole spiel. So I make a post on Chris's post and um this is where uh John Oh yeah, because Chris basically clips the space that we're going to listen to here at the part where I'm telling Grant that he's a loser and I don't give a [ __ ] about what he thinks, right? You know, of course, without all the stuff where Grant is sitting there like trying to talk about how I owe him uh peer review and all and I have to like answer all his questions and I I don't listen to criticism well enough. Well, I don't you I don't give a [ __ ] about their criticism. You know, it's pretty simple. Why are you even coming into my DMs at all? Go do your own thing. And you're going to find out here in a minute. That's what I told him in our DMs in a very nice way, right? And so, of course, Chris clips it out of context and then I post about how Grant is just some freaking UFO wannabe researcher has been loser, which is what he is. Just be honest about it, right? I don't pull any punches. And then John Greenwalt comes in, right? So John Greenwalt comes into the replies and I can't show the replies because after John Greenwalt bitched out after he's sitting there like gaslighting like a lunatic talking about oh you don't have uh enough cheese on your cracker and dodging every debate and he won't answer a question about whether or not Susan Gao is passing him information right he he dodges the question four times and gaslights tries to make himself out to be a victim somehow in all this is like completely just sociopathic behavior from John Greenwalt. John Greenwalt. I couldn't have lost any more respect for somebody from the beginning of this to that. Oh, we're going to get to 13 3220. We're going to get there. Or 3240. Yeah, we're gonna that's that's on the list. The Lou reviews. God. And so we have this space, right? And um so, okay, so the John Greenwalt stuff, right? Like John Greenwalt loses his mind. He gets destroyed again in my D in my replies. like he always does cuz he's not even a good troll. He's just an idiot, right? His whole job, John Greenwald's whole job is putting foyer requests in. I do that at night after my real job, but that's John Greenwald's whole job. Also, selling dildos online apparently is his backup job. So, I mean, everybody's got to make a a dollar bill, you know. So, John, you know what? I hope you sell some extra dildos, you know, this month. Um, if you want to get one where we can have an MH370 type branding on your dildos, let me know. We can make that happen. Call me John. Um, so anyway, John Greenwalt of course blocks me, goes and has his little pouty fit or whatever the hell John Greenwalt does. So yeah, the drama, man, this just it's insane, man. So, this this space after our awesome space with um Jake Chansley and with uh Oh, does he have a discount code for the dildos? Good question. Let's find out if John Greenwald has a discount uh phone or discount code for the dildos, guys. Um but these are the people we're dealing with, guys. People who sell dildos and their jobs are putting in foyer requests who literally beg people for money to be weird. I don't even know what the hell John Greenwald is, to be honest with you guys. I really don't even know what his position is in the UFO community. I even ask him and he won't even answer. Like that's these are the people that are criticizing us. People that can't even answer what their opinions are because they're too afraid of not being accepted by their peers or whatever. I don't know what it is. Oh yeah, we got the sad music coming. Oh, and just for the record, guys, I'm not retiring from everything, right? I'm just retiring from the MH370 stuff for a while at least. Maybe a new thing will come. Maybe they'll find the plane. No. Um, so where should we start with this? I We'll come back to the the space here. I think I want to start with the DMs. So, let's get that out of the way because so part of this space, you've got Grant in here talking about how how I act a different way in my DMs and how he was so oppressed by me in my DM and when he came into me my DMs that he had to start making jabs at me and posts about me and stuff like that, which is just again these people are off their rocker. I mean, it's just what it is. like all the people in the UFO community, the the ones that are pro disclosure, against it, whatever you want to call them, like they're all equally just completely insane. Um, and it's just it's a lot, man. Like, you got so much drama and crying and all these expectations these people have. And then Lou Reviews is in this space, too. So, we're going to get to him, too. But my god, Lou Reviews, I mean, there's so much to say about how much this guy is just a stinky piece of crap. like all around just terrible person. Uh when you guys listen to him in this space, you can just tell he's just completely unhinged. Um you know, it's like it's he's a failed actor and like, you know, you can tell that he's got nothing going on and like he takes it out on the whole world, you know, like he just needs to have a whole attitude change. He needs to stop eating so many cheeseburgers, you know? Like I actually worry about this guy. He's actually in these spaces and like you can hear him like basically having heart palpitations while he's like screaming. He's worked himself into such a froth about what? Why does it even matter? Right? I never really came at these guys ever once. But here's the thing. I'm going to stand up for myself. So, sorry guys. Let's dig into it. Sad piano music. We had three people yelling at us yesterday. Oh, they were just taking turns yelling. Oh, they were so upset. so angry they had to get their emotions out. Grant Grant, what's his last name? Grant Lavak. Grant Lavac. Very serious. Very serious guy. Grant Lavac is he's serious UFO researcher. Um he is, let me read his profile. He is the unexplained rundown. Husband, father, filmmaker, student of Foya. Oo, UAP UFO activist and creator of the unexplained rundown from down under. My opinions are my own. Filmmaker, too. Oh, I can't wait to go check out his YouTube. Uh, the unexplained rundown. Okay, let's look at the DMs, guys. 3,000 followers, guys. Pretty serious. Pretty serious. How do I get to his profile? Oh, we got him. These guys really just love to embarrass themselves. This is going to be fun. Okay, see what we got. One sec, guys. [ __ ] The screen is doing weird stuff. Okay. Come on. Come on, man. What the hell? Sorry, I'm trying to get this thing over to the left. Okay, here we go. We're good. Full screen. Yeah, you guys know I don't take any crap, right? Let's be honest. I don't take any crap. The difference between me and other influencers is some of these other influencers, like they're say they care so much about their brand and how they look, right? Oh, you want me to turn this down? Oh, yeah. Hold on. Volume's a little too loud. Chat for me. It's just like, yeah, I don't care, man. You come at me, you better be ready to get clapped back. You can go ahead and wait and make whatever edits you want and do whatever [ __ ] you want. People are going to see right through it cuz they know you're not honest. Um, where is the cut? Where's the thing? Got too many tabs up, chat. Oh, here it is. Sad piano music. Okay, there we go. Okay. So, um this was early on too, right? When I didn't have a lot of followers. So, I saw somebody with four follow,000 followers. I was like, "Oo, this guy, look at his he's an unexplained rundown." You know, you look at his thing, you think, "Oh, maybe he's somebody that matters in the UFO community." Wrong. Wrong. Just another guy. Doesn't matter at all. Let me know if you have any questions. What I'll say is this is not a joke or hoax. I'm just a regular person put into an extraordinary scenario. I'm no fool. I've seen what happens to people who try to get uh who tried to do similar things and every move I've made has been calculated. My goal has been the truth at any cost. I won't make a misstep. Well, I guess I made some missteps, guys, cuz we didn't get on Rogan, but we came we came close to the sun. So, this was back in October 28. So, that was like 4 months ago. If you had asked this person here, this Ashton four months ago, would I have been talking to Rogan? I'm not sure. I would have said yes. But I think we did a pretty good job. says, "Kudos to you for investing all the time, energy, and effort you've put into date. You've had any luck securing peerreview data and analysis." Huh. Interesting, guys. This is exactly what he was talking about a month ago. Peerreview data analysis for the biggest conspiracy of all time. Who am I supposed to peerreview that with exactly? I've been talking to literally all the independent group. Half of them had me blocked for up until like a month ago. Um, and the only other person I talked to is Florence Dangi. She doesn't think it's that crazy, although she doesn't agree. So, that's hard to answer. Most academics are too close-minded to even look at this data. I have two physicists who have supported me. Roy de Herbert and Salvador Pas. It's no coincidence that Pas responded to me in less than 24 hours. He recognizes his own work on display. Florence and Chuch Florence Cheney and I have been talking a lot. She's not close-minded like the other independent group. I can't tell who's controlled by the government and who is just asleep at the wheel. There's no chance anyone who looked at the ping data or the witness cargo couldn't realize this was a fire and that the ping data is super sketchy at for 1840 UTC, which is still true. My background is health in healthcare IT and I look at spreadsheets daily. So noticing the obvious anomaly at 1840 UTC was really surprising to me. Victor of IG just screamed it's normal over and over again when I confronted him about it, which is true. He still does. Um, even though now I think that they some of it's at least a phone call, but it's weird. If the answer was just a phone call the whole time, it could have just said that. This is literally the biggest conspiracy of all time. And I don't know who is lying and who isn't. One guy emailed me and told me he matched Danica Weeks in a dating app and all of a sudden she went cold after telling him she's been watched. That's what we're dealing with. Another guy told me 15 years ago, a drunk military friend of him told him that we had a teleportation tech and until I started posting he was never sure about the story and it always stuck with him, but now he knows it was real. Another person DM'd me claiming to be from NASA and so they couldn't go on the record, but they showed the team the videos and they're real. Plus, there's a guy who came to me early on and told me about the nephew of the general showing me saying uh the nephew of the general showing him the video, his friends with the nephew. He begged me to delete the article with all the messages I posted. So, I did after a day. I didn't want him to get hurt. All true statements, guys. All of those things have happened in my DMs. Every single one of those. The physicists are telling me that Congress is hiding the papers about inertial mass reduction because that's how sensitive it is. That's what enables faster and light travel. Somehow, I'm in the middle of all this. It spooks me. So, that's why I'm disseminating to the world to protect myself. These are Grant Levox DMs. Okay, so that was that was the most of it. It's probably going to be me. Now it's all about this guy trying to debunk it. Get ready. Separating the wheat from the chaff is never easy. Good to hear you have some engagement with PZ. I'd be cur interested to learn his thoughts and hypothesis and the data you've collected. Best of luck success with your engagement in PZ and others. Thanks. We just proved the fire scenario in the last hour. I'm going to go uh uh I'm I'm going to get people on the record because this proves everything. The biggest story in the history of the world. Lol. And I was just thinking about this was the day where the fire scenario where we found out the belly of the fire. And this was huge. It's crazy that even after we were able to figure out that there was a fire scenario, even after we figured that out, people still still thought everything was fake. We figured out a whole scenario related to the videos because we could see smoke and a heat signature in the belly of the videos. And then that's how we figured out that Katherine T the plane was glowing orange because of the fire and the 487 lbs of lithium batteries. Incredible. Still think this was an incredible turn that on October 28th. Good to know we have that date now. Hi Ashen, great interview with Salvador Pas. Thoroughly enjoyed your conversation. I had a question for you. Oh, here it goes. On the thermal footage when the HUD is display disabled, do you happen to know what the opacity settings for the targeting box and the crosshairs are? The what? Thanks, Grant. I really liked Salvador Pi. Really intelligent man, highly credible. He's an engineer. Clearly, I think there's a chance to unify his theories with the theoretical physics that I've been tutored on. No idea. I know it's a General Atomics drone and the cameras are like Rathon, but we don't really know anything about the settings unless we had someone who controls how it works directly. I'm not even 100% sure on the drone. We were looking at the other option. Seems like 95% MQ1C. Uh, but there's a newer model MQ9 variant that would have had been brand new in 2014. They both look similar, but the only one we could find pictures of is the MQ1C. Copy that. Thanks for the comments. I imagine it'd be tricky to get a baseline comparison with other thermal footage from the same from the same drone camera. Exactly. All these systems are classified. It's 9 years ago. Okay. Now, what curious to know your opinion on these thermal variations, possible structures? Okay. I wonder that too. Seems like windows. I would guess there's some logical explan I don't know. I would guess there's some logical explanation though when I show them the vid picture here. There's probably some physics explanation based on thermodynamics and these temperature differences are probably very minor. Manny thanks for opining. I appreciate your thoughts. You have if you have any thoughts let me know. I'm definitely not a scientist listening to alien scientists right now with Salvador Py and wow these people are smart as heck. Make me feel really dumb. This is actually I think when we met Dave Rossi. Hey, you're not alone. I had to I had to consult the oracles Google for your PZAZ interview. Great. LOL. I need to upload a very high quality one. Blah blah blah. I hope this message finds you well. I have another follow-up question. Okay. Couple weeks later. Regarding the lithium-ion battery hypothesis, do you believe lithiumion battery was isolated to the cargo bay? I think it was mostly isolated, but the smoke definitely broke free from them fighting it. Hard to say with certainty as the smoke appears to emit from both engines. Not only do you do you think that the smoke has found a way to engines despite the the fire being primarily isolated the the plane's underbelly. I don't think it's coming from the engines and I'm not sure why people think it is. I'll admit that was that was my observation on first glance. I'm not seeing a big smoke emanating from the underbelly. I'm not really interested in discussing this in DMs, but thanks. If you want to work on your own theories, no one is stopping you. No problem. I respect that. If you're open to discussing this on your upcoming videos or ex threads, I'd be interested to hear your take. I don't have a hypothesis. I'm just listening commentary on yours as it pertains to the smoke trail. Thanks again. And then he immediately goes and starts making posts about me. That's it. Nothing intense there. I just got tired of dealing with this guy. So, you guys be the judge on the Grant Levant story. Honestly, this is probably the tamest one out of all of them because we look at his profile and where's the link? Let me find it. [Music] [ __ ] I don't know where I saved it. Oh, hold on. I know where I saved it. Okay. So, then he makes this whole dear diary letter about me. You're not really interested in discussing in DM. So he starts just taking me out of context. [Music] Well, I applaud the research has gone into MH37 hypothesis. I submit the following critique on a little debated facet. Ashton, you voiced your opinion both publicly and privately that a lithium ion battery fire and cargo bay was mostly isolated, but the smoke definitely broke free. Regarding your claim of the smoke trails being depicted in both videos, you further indicated that you privately don't think it's coming from the engines and that you're not sure why people think it is. You also make it proud that you're not interested in discussing this in DMs. It's happy. I'm happy to bring the conversation into a public sphere for your comment. Who the hell does Grant think he is? Who the hell does this loser think he is? Who makes a post like this? Jesus. I just read you guys all the DMs, right? So, you know what he's doing here. Just trying to snip things. Like, what is this? Why do I Why does this loser think I owe him anything at all? I shouldn't even had to reply to all those messages to this guy. Like, this is clearly just some kind of backhanded slap, right? Just totally wild. Like, if you want to ask something, just ask it in not the most pretentious possible way there is. and realized I was getting like 25 DMs a day and I don't have time to respond to every single unhinged lunatic that comes into my DMs. No offense, but Jesus man, like you just clout chasing for sure as people are saying in the chat. 100% clout chasing. Like these are just the kind of like weirdo parasocial behaviors I don't got time for, man. And we start making posts like this. This is you being disrespectful, man. It was disrespectful of you to be coming in my DMs at all. Don't do that crap. I don't owe you some kind of answer. You're not like the arbiter of what's true and what's not and what the UFO community should believe. You're just literally some loser that doesn't matter. Okay, so we done with you, Grant. And then there was another post he made later on. I'm not even going to bother going into it, but he then took another shot at me out of the dark like a month ago or something like that. It was super cringe because I unblocked him because this was before the unblock, guys. This guy's been blocked twice. Grant Lavak is such a loser. He's actually been blocked twice. Okay. Guy's been blocked two times because he came back and then he made another post which I I'd have to dig for it or whatever but he makes another post attacking me again. Right. Just I don't care about you, Grant. All the haters. I don't care about you. I don't think about you guys ever. Never. Ever. Oh yeah. The music's not sad music. We got the synth wave going. Here we go. So, it's just like, dude, what is what's wrong with you, man? And then I unblocked him for this nonsense. I should probably block him again cuz Jesus, man. It's it's the thing. It's like he's just as bad as the like debunker trolls are, but he does it in even more pretentious way. And then the way he gaslights about how I don't take criticism. Well, [ __ ] off, Grant. You [ __ ] loser. I don't owe you a goddamn thing in this world, man. Go do your own [ __ ] You know what, Grant? I'm passing over the MH370 investigation to Grant, everybody. Officially passing it over. Uh, March 8th, Grant Lavank is taking over the MH370 investigation chat. I can't wait to see what he puts out. I'm excited for it. I've made all the evidence available for him, so he has no excuse, right? Obviously, he wants to dig into it, right? Obviously wants it. Grant Lavant, passing you the case, buddy. MH370 is your case at on March 8th. Don't come talk to me about it, but take notes. Okay, we dealt with that, dude. And we might have some clips. Let me see what we got in the clips department. [Music] Troll hunting tonight. So, yeah, this is like the smallest tier troll that we've got, guys. Um Oh, yeah. Okay, so this Chris guy who had a complete meltdown. Jesus, dude. Jesus. Um, so I kept the screenshots from the last time because I knew this Chris guy was going to like completely lose his crap. Like there was no way. I knew he was completely out of his mind. Anybody that sends you uh DMs like or uh private messages like this has got serious issues. Go to Metabunk and see if I've ever contributed. You won't because you're a literal conspiracy theorist that profited off a tragedy pushing a BF BX host hoax. You're a literal scum of the earth and hide behind a screen because in reality you won't step to the plate and say that manto man. I always back what you say like you're going to lose your teeth defending it. That's what I do. 100. Keep that 100. New copy paste has dropped chat. This is average Chris. Average Chris. You're the biggest [ __ ] in the face of the world. You never would do [ __ ] What a [ __ ] loser. I handled dead bodies from a tragedy. I was deployed to Jakarta, Indonesia for the tsunami that wiped out over 200,000 people. Got medals for that to back it up. Do you? You don't. So yeah, I don't take it lightly when people like you push [ __ ] theories off a [ __ ] hoax video and profit from it. So go to your [ __ ] podcast and keep pushing [ __ ] You're on par with the Sandy Hooks BS Alex Jones pushed out. Same [ __ ] different pile. This is what happens, guys, when you just don't ever think for yourself in your whole life and you do nothing but absorb cable television and MSNBC. This is what happens to your brain, dude. So guys, don't let your friends do it. Having them watch cable news turns you into a average Chris. My god, what a loser. Holy [ __ ] Unbelievable, dude. And so then he has a a this guy's like out there writing whole diaries, dude. Whole diaries about me. Like he goes in a whole diet tribe where he's like pinging every person in his life that he's thinking about. I'm just sitting there imagining him on the computer all day long just writing long letters to everybody he doesn't like, right? Everybody he thinks that what they're saying can't be true because what is his experience? Oh, he read the skeptical inquirer. He went on Google and Googled skeptical inquirer. And so that told him uh what the real truth is. Jesus. Yeah. Tell us more about your 300 purple hearts, too. Jesus, man. The ones I I love the military and I respect the military, but people like this that give the whole military a really bad name, man. Yeah. People like this give the military a whole bad name, man. If you're a badass, you don't talk about your stuff, you know? It's like when you're uh like super um emo emo kid like uh real fragile ego like that's when you talk about your um your medals, right? When you're super self-conscious but you don't want to put it out there but everyone can see it. You can read them like a book, right? That's when you start talking about how many people I saved in the the tsunamis that killed 200,000 people. So basically, you were just there helping people out. It wasn't combat or anything like that. Um, you got deployed there. Yeah. The problem is a lot of these people need self-help, right? And I just wish the only thing I'm asking them is leave me the hell alone. I mean, I don't know why I have to say it so much. If this is your beliefs, go somewhere else. Do something else. You're not saving anybody. This guy's got a clear savior process or pro uh progress uh complex, right? Like just straight up savior complex. He thinks he's got to save everybody from their own dangerous ideas. He's never even looked at the evidence. Why would he do that? How are they this invested? Exactly. Why is a loser like this this invested? Like, can you just imagine him sitting there like his wife's like, "Honey, come. I want to have sex. No, I there's somebody wrong on the internet and I need to correct them." Jesus. And then he's trying to act like he couldn't join the space yesterday because he was too busy on Valentine's Day at like 9:00 at night. after he was out all day to hang out with his wife. Yeah, right, dude. Yeah, he was just scared. Yeah, anyone anybody who says that they are the king is no king, right? Anybody who has to say that they're the king is no king. It's kind of like the Game of Thrones quote. Um I'm not even going to go to the rest of that guy's tweets or whatever. I don't even want to look him up. He's just such a waste. But if you'll find too, if you go to his profile, it's nothing but diary entry after diary entry, right? Even the even the Luinons hate him. Everybody hates him because he's just just this completely pretentious like thinks he knows everything and has to let everybody else know when they're wrong kind of person. The difference between me like where's the line people wonder between arrogance and ego and just being confident. Where's the where's the line? The line is when you start telling other people that they're wrong, right? That's the line. The moment you start trying to lash out at other people and say what other people wrong, just do your own thing. Chat, remember how much how often I say you're one of two people in the world. You're one of two types of people in the world. You're either somebody who's building things up or you're tearing things down. Chris, average Chris is somebody who's tearing stuff down, right? 100%. He doesn't build, he's never built anything in his life, most likely, right? Complete power trip. Probably adrenaline junkie. And so is this area 5.56 guy who I literally never even heard of in my whole life. But he's definitely a Redditor. Like you know right off the bat he's a Redditor. You can just tell from the interactions like he's probably one of these nut jobs who's on the AA uh the debunker subreddit like talking about us 247. Like you can tell they have the same personality, right? Like somehow I'm living rentree in their heads. I'm their ex-girlfriend they can't get over, right? Um it's just bizarre. Okay, so Chris stuff, tough guy nonsense. Okay, so then it starts to heat up, right? Um, so let's find it. And so I blocked all these guys, too, by the way. Like Chris and Osiris and uh um not I didn't block Grant because whatever. Grant's just not doesn't matter to me. Um but I block Oh, yeah. Let's Let's watch this on here. stage. We always have like bunker in the space. Average Chris on stage as well. Oh, there's the average Chris. We have multiple different people on here with multiple different opinions. So to describe our stage is just, you know, one position would be incorrect. And we have you on our stage. You're calling yourself a news station. You guys are calling yourself news station. That would be like, you know, um, uh, I don't know, you know, [ __ ] who's in the news, like Pete. Diddy [ __ ] co-hosting a show on CNN or Fox News, you know, just to take away the attention of his lawsuit. Like, it's [ __ ] would be fire though. Be more funny. The end is great there. That [ __ ] would be fire though. Like, it's [ __ ] would be fire though. be more tuba, man. So, yeah. Okay, let's let's we'll get back to Lou at the end. My god, we got some clips to play in a second, too, guys. Okay, so Osiris, where is this Osiris guy? Okay, so this Osiris guy, full on meltdown. This is the nut job who is like making up these fake stories in his head about how they foyed Arrow and they're going to get me or whatever as if like I'm going to lie about something like that and then that like I quit the investigation because of them. How absolutely out of your mind do you have to think how out of your mind you have to be to think that? Right? Just totally wild. So, he replies to the thing where I say because this is after um John had already jumped in to defend his his boyfriend Grant. Uh so then after he jumps in, I make a post about that. He has this whole whole meltdown all day long. And then this Osiris Nutter, what's this guy's name? Jeremy McGawan or whatever. Apparently, he's like a he's a retired vet as well, which man, you guys are not making the military look good here. Like find something else to do with your life. Anything else? Like literally anything. Delete your Twitter account. Go do something else. Never come back. Live your life. Touch grass. Whatever you got to do. Jeremy McGawan. Take the advice. It's free. Um, so this guy, he thinks that a a good response would be perhaps Ashton should visit Chris Leto and spend some time playing shuffleboard on faculty grounds. At least Chris admits he's facing a real and that's commendable. are fa the issues he's facing are real and that's commendable. Hope he recovers and comes back stronger and healthier during his resppite. Ashen may need to make some more time off to self-actualize though. Holy [ __ ] How much of a [ __ ] insane person do you have to be? Just a sick demented individual do you have to be to make a post like this? Like these guys like it's embarrassing that they were defending our country. embarrassing. This is like you're going to go after people's mental health. You're going to attack Chris Leto and make jokes about going shuffleboarding. Dude, if he's having a real situation and you're making posts like this, you're a sick individual, dude. You're like, you probably like did some dark [ __ ] that no one we don't even want to know about cuz that is just messed up, dude. Bringing Chris into the discussion is lower than low. If this guy's not embarrassed for the way he acts, like then holy [ __ ] he's one of the worst people out there. I thought King Milk fart is bad. This guy's like, I'm going to try to be the next King Milk fart. Sorry, I should just call him Milk Farts. He doesn't even deserve to be called the right name. So yes, this Jeremy Maccgawan guy. Holy crap. And apparently he's got some dark stuff in his closet. This guy potentially has some really dark stuff in his closet. So when your closet is 10 10 ft deep, guys, full of skeletons, don't make posts like this ever, man. Ever. So, you're the nut job who is foying my communications with the ARO because you invented a fake story in your head that I was lying, right? Then you were too much of a coward to even show up to a 45minute space where it was revealed that I wasn't lying about Joe Rogan. These guys, he was such a coward. On top of that, like this is a guy who's trying to be a hard guy and he can't even join for 30 minutes to a space to talk through his weird insane drama that he's in like these weird stories that he's building in his head. He can't even talk through it, right? And then he tries to make some claim yesterday too about how, oh, I'm hanging out with a Valentine's. No, you're not, dude. You're sitting on the internet like a loser, man. That's what you were doing all night. It's just crazy. So then he says, "Oh, so um so I end up blocking him as well, right?" And then so here's this local 5.56 guy who's screaming at us and wouldn't let anybody talk and is cutting people off nonstop. I think at one point even called me like a piece of [ __ ] or something. I don't know if it was him or one of the other guys, but honestly, I don't I try to tune it out in general cuz some of these guys are so unhinged. Um, so this is like how I'm going to show you guys this post because I'm going to show you how like people that aren't all right there in the head come up with weird fake [ __ ] and then they get mad at you because they think you believe fake things. The ultimate irony of anyone like this, like Local 5.56 or um Osiris or any of them believing like saying that I'm pushing fake stuff out there when they literally are pushing fake stuff out there and then I correct them and tell them they're wrong and they don't correct it and then they double down on it. Like that's the very definition of hypocrisy, chat. The very definition. You claimed you were able to report to air when you don't meet the requirements, Ashton. Now, I know you won't be able to answer because all you do is gaslight and and talk hollow smack. This is coming from the people who are literally gaslighting me non-stop. Like, they project their own insecurities all the time. I don't even know who this guy is. I've never even heard of this guy before. Right. But here are the requirements per AR. You have to be a current or former US government employee, service member, or contractor personnel with direct knowledge of UAP activities. Yep, that's what it says. and I still applied and they didn't arrest me. How does that make you feel, Local 556? Does it make you feel like an idiot? Cuz you are one. Hopefully they take away your security clearance so you can stop protecting people with guns cuz anyone who's this unhinged, in my opinion, should not be protecting anybody else. And I don't know if you should even have access to weapons, firearms, if I'm being perfectly honest. How does being a contractor with a government health provider meet the requirement for not direct knowledge of programs related to UAP? Please do tell because I'm staring at two videos that are real and uncl and I don't know if they're classified or not, but they're real and I investigated them firsthand and came together with 14 pages of evidence. That's my direct knowledge of the situation. I can say that there's two videos, 19 witnesses. I can explain the event. I can say the time that we zapped it. I have a pretty good idea of who did the zapping as well, including the US government that are filming it. Um, we know the person is that went to jail over it named Edward C. Lynn, and he went to prison for six years. So, that's what gives me the direct knowledge. Is there anybody else who has more knowledge about that than me? That's not somebody who's stuck behind an NDA or can or potentially a um a plea deal? No, there isn't. Do I? And so what did I say when I talked to them? I said they should go find Edward C. Lynn. I said that they should go look up those videos to see if those are real assets cuz that's all verifiable information. And you know what they told me? They told me it's fine that I'm not that I'm not person with firstirhand knowledge. They said it was fine. I actually asked about that. First thing I said was, "Is it okay because I know your thing says you want people with direct?" I said, "Yeah, well, in general, we're looking for people with firsthand knowledge, but you know, it's okay because I said, I don't want to get in trouble, blah, blah, blah." Right? So, that's the answer to his stupid question. And I had, for the record, I had already stated this on another space. So, this guy is like obviously just out of the loop or gaslighting, making [ __ ] up. I'm not really sure what the answer is. Please explain how you claimed you had a CAC and then later changed it to a PIV and said you lost it and didn't matter while you were supposedly a current contractor. I'm not going to explain that because that's already enough information to figure it out for anyone who were to look up those terms. And I'm not in the interest of giving away what my job is. And the fact that he's revealing this personal information that I told in private to the that idiot average Chris, this is where like there's no chance that any of them a have any credibility. Average Chris is a [ __ ] Local 556 is a [ __ ] right? They're out here like trying to dox me and my information as well, which they shouldn't be doing because this is extremely extremely not just unprofessional, like they need to take away this guy's security clearance, make sure he doesn't ever have any job ever again with the government, right? Um this is just it's messed up stuff, man. Uh but I must be Nostradamus because I know you're going to gaslight and go on with the unhinged rhetoric as well. Yes, this is extremely unhinged, man. The fact that you even made this post, Local 556, throws into uh question your mental uh wellness 100%. I don't know what you're thinking in your mind that you're doing making this post. Like I imagine you think that you're trying to get me or that you think that in your mind that you have a proof that I'm lying, but you are literally a nut job who made up some completely false thing in your head because you didn't talk to me about it and instead decided to try to attack me about it. And you need help. I mean this seriously. You need help. Go do literally anything else. Go touch grass. Whatever you got to do, man. Um I don't like doing this to you, but you need to just leave me alone. I'm going to have to get a restraining order if you ever come back in this country because after yesterday and all your weird [ __ ] like I've never seen somebody so emotionally unhinged and attached to something that they actually have no basis to be attached to. Okay, so the other posts, where's the other guy? Did he delete his post? Where's his post? Oh, here it is. No, that's not it. Guys, where's the other post? Oh, he deleted it. You delete it. Oh, here it is. No, wait. Oh, I think he deleted it. Did he delete it? And look, look how look how nutty these guys are. They think that every account that hates on them is me. They actually think that I have multiple accounts. Like I have no other accounts. These people are like everybody Ashton's everywhere, man. Ashton's on the walls. He's harassing me with all these other accounts. Nope. Just straight up right here. Um I don't know cuz I can see his post. So let's go back. Let's go back. Oh, here it is. Here it is, guys. I don't know what happened. Here it is. Oh, man. So, after I told him he was the nut job, listen, you pathetic excuse for a human. First, I submitted to Foyer to verify and to attempt to get a real on how a arrow received, ingested, analyzed, and what they discussed about it. I would assume that you would you would find that information interesting as it could lead to potentially credibility for you. But instead, you attack the very idea of foy like a sniveling child. I literally have the DM. I have the the emails, man. I talked to them personally. There's nothing that you can foyer that I haven't literally already shown or talked about. Like the only reason to do this is because you're some psychopath nut job who in your mind has built up a fake narrative about me. Of course, I'm not afraid of your foyer request. I have nothing to hide whatsoever. I mean, you could literally go back through my other streams. You're not going to find any inconsistencies about anything because clearly I'm just speaking the truth. My god, man. And it gets better, chat. Second, I don't get goated into coming into a Twitter space. Not by you, not by Keem, not by anyone. Well, then what are you doing sitting here talking smack about people? If you don't want to talk about it, then go away. Go do literally anything else with Osiris. You're a retired guy. Go find some hobby to do that has nothing to do with the internet. You really need to just get outside and talk to real human beings, man. Additionally, and I'm sorry for your life structure. What? But yesterday was Valentine's Day, a day that is planned in advance and filled with roses and candies and dinner and family with time with my wife and my daughter. You hang out with your daughter on Valentine's Day? Maybe that was a misstatement, chat. Your ego is so inflated, you actually believe that I would rather spend time on a ridiculous conversation with the likes of you than my own family. That is a textbook example of narcissism and delusions of grandeur. No, I'd say this this post is one for sure, though. You're absolutely no one to me. Your trit mentality, unstable ranting hold no effect on my daily life and therefore doesn't exist in a universe in the entirety of the multiverses across the timelines where I would give you any time of day that it takes away from my family. What? What is that, dude? Is that just straight out of a Marvel movie? Is that a straight out of Marvel movie, chat? I mean, clearly you are mentally unwell and have some absolute obsession with me. If you didn't have an obsession with me, I don't know why you're in my replies. I don't know why you're doing foyer requests with me. I don't know why you're obsessed with me and obsessed with the case and how you and your boyfriend, average Chris, are talking about whatever. Like all three of you guys and your little like nut job debunker chat. Like, you guys all need help and you all need to go do anything else with your lives. Just literally anything. Just turn the internet off. Go outside, go enjoy the sun, walk around with your family instead of waiting for Valentine's Day or whatever weird crap you're doing. But it's clear that I'm not absolutely known to you. It's clear that like I'm living in your head 24/7. 24/7. You're absolutely one of the most self-important manchilds I've ever had the displeasure of making a being made aware of. I hope to sustain a concussion that erases the memory of your existence. Wow. This is how triggered we've made people. This is how triggered just existing has made other people. Can you imagine coming into somebody else's replies uh in inserting yourself into somebody else's business with that level of ego and that level of narcissism and then gaslighting somebody else and projecting it onto them when all they're doing is trying to follow their own path and that you are sitting there trying to block them, trying to get in their way, trying to get into their replies. Like that is the definition of narcissism, man. Thinking that everything's about you. Thinking that I'm quitting the case because I'm afraid of your foyer request. Um, thinking that I owe you anything and any explanation and any answers about anything I'm doing in my entire life. That's narcissism, man. That's ego and that's narcissism. And it's also fragile ego. Like it's it's it's easy to crack you because when you're this mentally unhinged, it's like all I have to do is give you a nudge and you're just going to explode and lose your mind. And that boy oh boy that's what you did. Holy crap is that what you did dude. Anyway, read the replies. Lots of triggers in there. 100% projection definitely. Um bot also also true. Also true. Totally totally totally totally pathetic. And if you're somebody who's got a bunch of skeletons in your closet, too, like apparently this guy does, I'm not going to repeat some of the heinous things that I've heard. But wow, if any of that stuff's true, man. Wow. Get off the internet, bud. Anyway, so let's go to Okay, let's listen to some clips. Oh, no. Let's Let's check out this Osiris guy real quick. He's a real badass chat. [Music] Maybe he'll tell us how many medals he has. Oh, even UIP Mike's uh dropping bombs on uh on John Greenwall as well. Oh, here it is. Here he is, guys. And one of the things I wanted to read here. So, he's got to tell us all his thoughts, guys. Has this He doesn't like Lu Alzando chat. Made up Rambo. He doesn't like Lu Alzando because he thinks people turn him. He doesn't tell people that he's not a Rambo, which I don't even care about Lu Alzando. But me that it's obvious that this guy's got to give his opinion on everybody else and all their business and he's got to insert himself into everything, right? And this is why for no reason this guy's not even involved in anything that was going on. This guy inserts himself and starts raging on our Twitter space yesterday. Local 556. There he is. to send up to. I'll post oneish. We literally had uh Oh, yeah. He posts a bunch of pictures about his service and where he's been as well. So, this is the guy who like he needs to lose his military. If like there's anyone here who's like in the military and this guy's protecting you, find somebody else, man. This guy is not not all there. Super well trained badasses. And that's the other thing. Super well trained badasses. Yeah. that he's being for the things. This is Guys, you ready for what a badass sounds like? Let's start with this. Want to care? Not saying what we're saying. Yeah. And people want to know the truth. Yes. And you're not the arbiter of it. Do you get it? That's what gatekeeping is. Neither are you. Neither are you. Does he just not get Is this guy just a [ __ ] idiot? Neither are you. Yeah, well, I'm allowed to say whatever I want. You don't get to be the guy that tells people that this guy's lying and you can't believe him. Just do your own thing, man. Tell your own truth. If you don't believe it, move the hell on. You're certainly going to tell people it's not true because you say it's not true. You're not a scientist. You're not anybody that matters, dude. Your opinion doesn't matter, Area 556. So get the hell out of my replies. I mean, you're banned, so you're never going to be in my replies ever again, but [ __ ] off. Go do whatever [ __ ] you're doing in Iraq, guys. Neither are you. So why are you Neither are you? Jesus. You're already getting defensive. You're already getting defensive when all I'm doing is attacking you out of nowhere and I don't have any reason to be here cuz I'm local 5.56. Let's bring some scientist. Shut the [ __ ] up. Oh, and look who's getting unhinged. Oh, and look who's getting unhinged, guys. It's like the guy literally won't shut the hell up for even one second throughout the whole space. Interrupts me like 10 times. I asked him to drop him down cuz he won't stop talking. Huge. Like, these guys are off their freaking rockers, dude. Like, he didn't get bullied enough in when he was in school. Like, I don't get what the deal is with these people. Oh, boy. Someone's having a meltdown. Look, man, I'm I'm going to explain it. I don't look man. I don't cut you guys down. I don't talk about you because I don't care about you. You're the ones who are talking about me. You're the ones making up [ __ ] about me. So get it straight. Boom. Boo. Yeah. Does it Does it sink in yet? Area 556, I don't give a [ __ ] about you. You're the ones talking [ __ ] on me. I didn't even know who the [ __ ] Area 556 was yesterday. 3 days ago. I didn't even know who the hell Osiris was. Apparently his name's Jeremy McGawan. Got a bunch of skeletons in his closet. I don't know why you guys keep coming at me and who you think you are and why you think I'm your ex-girlfriend or boyfriend or whatever you're into. I don't really care. But I have nothing to do with you and I'm only doing this right now because you went off unhinged off script and went a threeon-one weirdo psychopath attacking of me. Go do anything else, dude. You put yourself in the center of the stage. You put yourself in the center of the stage. Like, how mentally unwell does this guy actually have to be? local 5.56. Why? Why does he thinks I put myself in the center of the stage? Now he's building up some fake reason for why he should be allowed to attack me. This is like what the hecklers do, right? When they're watching a comedian and they think they I paid to be in here. I have a right to heckle you, right? And then they get kicked out and they have a complete meltdown about it. You're going to get have attention, guys, guys. Guys, I'm going to I'm going to mediate. I'm going to mediate. Okay, so let's go to the next clip. 44 Red from knowing him personally. I But yeah, I'm not saying that that bleeds through Skyfire. I'm just saying I know who Red is and I know he's one of the people putting stuff out. So, but uh yeah, just an FYI, I'm in Iraq right now. My internet is [ __ ] I'm in Iraq right now. So what, dude? No one gives a [ __ ] [ __ ] Um, it comes and goes, but I'm and I don't know any experts regarding this particular thing with I don't know any experts, but I'm adamant that whatever you say is wrong. Even though he just says now he now the truth comes out. Now he gets real somber, right? He's yelling the whole time, the whole time, interrupting the whole time, screaming, claiming that I'm a liar and all this stuff. And then now he's just the moment the experts start getting called. Well, I I don't know any actual experts. I'm going to get them together though. I'm going to I'm going to get the experts together. Dude, you don't know a single expert in your whole life, dude. Nobody's coming to your rescue. MH370. So, I'm going to have to go searching. I'm going to have to go talk to people. But I'm going to do all I can. Lock people and shut down conversations. Just listen from some like weird malicious angle. But I think you're wrong. And I think you're really uh headstrong and I think you're terrible at taking criticism. And I think you don't terrible. This this whole idea I'm terrible at taking criticism. What is up with this idea that I'm terrible? I don't owe anybody that I should have to listen to any of their criticisms about anything. I'm doing you a favor if I interact with you and you you want to criticize or come up with whatever, right? Like being that saying that you are bad at taking criticism is literally what a bully says to somebody that they're trying to abuse emotionally and verbally. That's what somebody says to somebody that like I if this guy's in a relationship, I fear for the person he's in a relationship with. I'm sure he's not, but Jesus, man. The type of like psychological manipulation and nut jobber these guys do, they need some serious help. Don't engage with people that genuinely want to get to the bottom of this. No, this guy doesn't want to get to the bottom of this. This is just more gaslighting. None of these people, not Grant, not Local 5.56, not Lur Reviews, not Chris, not Osiris, none of them want to get to the bottom of this. All they want is for it to go away. They want to go back to their fantasy lives where they imagine that the plane crash into the ocean and that the TV tells them the truth and everything is safe and comfortable, right? And they can go play Rambo with their guns and pretend like they're badasses when they aren't, right? That's all they want. None of them want to solve anything. And that's the issue I have. every time someone wants to actually hash things. I don't even know. Just keep in mind, guys, I had never even seen this guy before. And for some reason, this guy's acting like we've been in a relationship for over a year, right? I've never seen anyone this parasoccially nut jobber attached to somebody. What is this? Is this what happens when you go into the military and spend too much time overseas out and have a way to verify those things to We don't need to verify anything. I don't know why I would have to verify anything to this random guy. I don't have to tell anything to any of these people. Like, if you don't want to believe it, I don't care, man. Move on with your life. Please move on with your life. Verify because that's the most important part is the checks and balances. Every time someone tries to get to the details, the nitty-gritty with you, you start getting defensive. And a lot of people in your space the other night were applauding you for your character and the way you This guy Oh, so this is where it comes out, right? So, he was in the space the other night and he was hating the fact that I got attention, right? That's what this all comes around to, right? He was getting offended that other people liked me and he didn't get any approvals and oh no, Ashton's being told that he did a good job. Verifiable. Dude, I got 14 pages of evidence that nobody has debunked. Nobody has debunked it. Nobody's even tried pinned to my profile for the last three months, man. Area 556. cuz you want to pretend like you know something, go take a look at the evidence, buddy. Go read through it. Let's see if you can read 14 pages. I'm not sure you're even capable, but you know, prove us wrong. Act in public is one way, but I've seen your DMs. I've seen your DMs. So, why is this nut job reading my DMs? Who's giving them to him? Oh, average Chris is. You've seen my DMs? How many DMs of mine have you seen? I've literally shown like no DMs that are in any way upsetting. So, this is the part where he reveals he's a Redditor, right? Because you know what he's talking about here? He's talking about the Jonas DMs. Those are the only DMs that he could be talking about, right? Unless he's talking about the stuff with Chris. And even that, it doesn't feel like it, right? It feels like he's talking about This guy's one of the debunker Redditors, right? He's one of the guys on the AA24 subreddit. This guy might even be Alpha Debacle. Honestly, chat, remember when I called Alpha Debacle a puss, you guys? That is the thing that would make somebody act like this like right. Yeah, he needs to change his name to local clown cuz he's definitely a clown. But you can tell this guy, this is really personal for this guy, right? Considering I've I never even knew who the hell he was. So obviously this is some dude who's been stalking us on one of these nut job Redditors, one of these pretend military guys that pretend on Reddit that they know everything on there, right? Like, oh yes, I know everything about the military drones and I've been military. This is how these guys work, right? cuz they think because they've held a gun and they guard some guy, they think that they know everything about how drones work and all this other crap. Like this is why this is one of those guys is lying on Reddit, right? Um claiming that he knows how all this stuff works and how it's obviously all fake and he's been deployed and all this [ __ ] Almost guaranteed. Almost guaranteed. This is where he revealed it in private. And you're a whole different person. You're a whole different person. Like what DMs is this guy looking at? We looked through the Grant DMs. See Grant doing a 100% there. What the [ __ ] is Grant talking about? I showed the most passive, calm, respectful DMs ever to Grant. And when I told Grant I didn't want to talk about the case anymore with him, totally lost his mind. Acted like everything was about him. Grant's doing a 100 there as if like I act differently in my DMs. No, what I do is I clap back to any [ __ ] who's trying to come at me. Don't come at me with your [ __ ] your weird psycho lies that you develop in your head. If you do, I will shatter I will shatter them because you know what? I tell the truth. That's the easiest thing. So, if you're going to come at me, you're going to try to claim I'm a liar or whatever, you're always going to be wrong. And I don't really care. I mean, if you want to keep collecting losses, like I said in this discussion, go for it. So, when you come out, he is here tonight, though. He's here tonight, right? Taking criticism from Grant. I'm not saying he's not a man. I'm not saying he's not willing to stand on his two feet and own it, but I'm just saying what I see is not what I see. What I see what who is this guy, dude? The best behavior in private DMs. This guy is guy trying to opine about what appropriate behavior is. guy that has a literal meltdown on a 45 50 minutee long space that just the whole behavior and all the weird stuff he's been doing and the pictures that he posted about himself afterwards as well, which we can bring those up. Like he posts the pictures and the replies of himself, right? Like the same ones that he posted on the stream, right? Like this is that guy like act pretending like he's a badass when he's just a [ __ ] loser. Like dude, what are you doing, man? You're talking about other people's behaviors, dude. You think that us and you even put boxes around yourself? Like, dude, you'd be lucky. Hopefully, you don't have a security clearance, man. Cuz I don't know why you're posting all this crap and why you're coming into my space and making a bunch of my fake [ __ ] up about me. But like, this is the kind of stuff that will get your security clearance taken away, right? So, hopefully you don't really have one and you're just making this [ __ ] up and you're just laring. If you aren't, I suggest you delete your account and go do something else. And the way you go at people and I think the way you go at I've literally never even heard of this guy, guys. Before yesterday, never even heard of this guy. Never heard of him ever once before. And this guy is opining about my behavior like he's like my dad or my parents or some [ __ ] Like this is just social media straight up perpetually online loser syndrome. Normal Chris. I don't think he was ever disrespectful to you. Paranormal Chris was ever disrespectful. Well, that's wrong. I We might go through those DMs as well, but Paranormal Chris got slapped down because he had multiple meltdowns in the group chat related to Skyfire News. And I the huge irony of it is that he kept posting a bunch of fake stuff and fake editorial content and then making like all these posts about how this proves somebody's wrong. And I'd be like, "But that's not really fact-based, right? That's just an editorial." and he would have a meltdown and immediately just make it personal, right? And he couldn't take any criticism, right? No criticism whatsoever. Paranormal Chris could take. And now this guy's like, you know, white knighting him, claiming that, well, Chris was super respectful. Chris is a bigger loser than this guy is. Chris had a full panic attack like a little girl and ran away from this on ran away from the group chat because he didn't get enough affirmation from everybody. Because when I shot him down and asked him if he had some kind of weird uh savior complex, the other people didn't come to his rescue. So, he left. Just ran away and retreated. Unbelievable. In a manner that deserved the way you came at him. You said some pretty nasty [ __ ] in those DMs. I'm not going to care about This is them gaslighting some more, right? You said some nasty [ __ ] Well, it's a lot nastier tonight for both of you guys. Honestly, truth hurts a lot. You know the thing about the truth guys, I wear the truth like an armor, right? If you are just honest all the time, then it doesn't really matter what comes out because reality is people are human. But when you lie and manipulate and build weird narratives like these guys do, your web of lies, it gets to a point where it's just it drains on you, right? And it becomes harder and harder and harder to maintain. And that's what happens to these guys is I'm happy to have them go out there and make up all these weird lies, right? And then I just bring the truth down like a hammer on top of these guys and they're so fragile and they have so much insecurity that it makes it so so easy to, right? I mean, I can see through this guy a mile away, right? We can figure out he's a Redditor probably just from his weird parasocial connection to me and how he's completely unhinged. Why he's even in excuse me in the space to begin with, right? So when you're somebody like this who's living in a living your whole life as a lie like you should the last thing you should do is come at other people because it's always every single time going to backfire on you. But any of you guys in your [ __ ] anger or whatever this is what you say nothing to me and then you rage out. This is what you do. You get you get defensive and you blow up. This is good for people to see. This is good for people This is good for people to see. Like who does this guy think who does he think he is here? Like this guy talks for like literally half the space. I've never met a bigger loser than this random 5.56 guy, right? Like what is wrong with this guy, man? To see that this is who you actually are when people criticize you. This guy interrupted all space long, screamed all space long, gas lit the whole time about somebody he's never met in his whole life, pretending like he's known me for 10 years here, trying to come down to me and make up a whole bunch of crap out there about me and then he thinks he has some kind of moral high ground. The amount of projection, dude, you're just living a projector, dude. Living in a whole projector, man. My god, you can't handle it. you. So, he's a he's a human. I I I And then Tupa finally jumps in like, "Yeah, so he's just a normal guy telling the truth, right? And you're just making a bunch of bullshit." The irony here is that I was being so respectful and so quiet even while this guy is just coming at me with a bunch of fake crap that he has. He's never met me in his whole life, right? Even Tupa couldn't take it any longer, right? Even Tupa's like, "Okay, this guy's got serious mental issues. We got to we got to cut this guy. We got to stop this guy." I can I can list on of the people on one hand of people who can take who I know personally who can take criticism. Well, nobody I know like you know what I mean? It's such a rare quality to do it and and like local. Haven't you been coming at Ashton like hella hard tonight? And Tupa just straight up calls him out like why is this guy coming at me? Right. You melt. Oh, the part where he was talking about when I melted on the concrete podcast. This guy's off his [ __ ] rocker, man. to you can just tell like he's not living in the reality we're all living in, right? He's living in some parallel world where he's the main character and everybody else is just there and anything he doesn't say is wrong and that he's a badass cuz he was in the military. Like if you think that I melted on the Danny Jones podcast, you need to get your head checked, bro. You either didn't watch it and you you have no idea how it went down and you read the headline and you thought that it went like that or you watched it and like you're living out the ash conformity experiment lie. like you're living it out every day. My guess is he never even watched it and that's the truth. He probably never even watched it and that he's so full of [ __ ] that he was just sitting here making up fake stuff based on literally the name of the podcast of the podcast because it says exposed on it as opposed to actually watching it and realize there was no exposing that happened to to criticize him or to call him out for defending himself and to say like look now he just admits that he did too. Like he just admits that he just nut job guy came screaming at me the whole time, right? Just admits it cuz he thinks he's justified in his own head. He doesn't realize how he seems to normal people. Now look how you're acting. You're unhinged. I don't know. I think that's a little bit He already said I was just gaslighting. You are. You're mentally unwell. You need a lot of help, man. Please stop talking for just one second. I know you can't, but please just stop. Please just stop talking, man. I'm begging you. Stop talking. Obviously, like I literally beg him to stop talking and he can't. Like this is what's wrong with this guy, right? Like they literally cannot stop talking about me even in the middle of the space. Like let me get the sad music going again. Like I don't know what is wrong with these trolls, but I do wonder about it. Here's the thing about it, guys. It's important. You know why this is important? Because The issue that we face is not just one for understanding uh the science or even proving the videos are real. It's it's realizing the sociology that's out there. People like this, right? You got to realize that like I don't know what percentage 25 to 40% of the people out there are like local 5.56R, right? Where they can't accept anything in their world view that's not in their tiny myopic little world view that they live in, right? And they just can't stop talking, right? They can't stop screaming. The the the hard the hard thoughts just can't get in there, right? Like it's no, I can't I can't listen to that. No, can't let him talk because if he talks then he may say the truth and it might tear me down. This guy definitely is a Redditor. I'm actually going to go out and say on a limb right now. 99% sure this guy's a Redditor. 99% sure this guy's one of those psychopaths who's been posting on the debunker subreddit pretending like he's an expert. Um, and that this is why he's so emotionally unhinged in this space cuz there's no way anybody else would be this invested otherwise, right? This is supposedly an adult, guys. Somebody who carries a gun around. Not me projecting. It's you projecting your emotional inse. It's him projecting his emotional insecurity. That's what it was. It was pretty heavily on display right there. Uh, not much more to say on the person that came out and said I was unhinged. You were the first person to wave that out. People clearing the spaces. Okay. I'm not I'm going to Man, I don't think anything I've said tonight is unhinged. He doesn't think anything he said tonight is unhinged. This is a guy who's never met me before, who has been railing about me, trying to say pretend like he knows me. He doesn't think anything about what he says unhinged. This is the exact problem, right? When people are crazy, they don't even recognize it in themselves, right? This guy needs to talk to a psychiatrist. I mean that 100%. He needs to go talk to a psychiatrist. He needs to talk about all these weird issues that he's got. Why he feels like he has to lash out at everybody. Get to the deep uh whatever it is that happened in your childhood. Whatever trauma you dealt with, like your parents didn't love you enough or whatever it is. I honestly don't know. But go figure it out, man. And get get some time. Like delete your internet account, delete your Twitter account, go do something else with your life for a while. Don't come back to the internet. Um you know, get talk to real people in the real world for a while. Figure your weird [ __ ] out and move on with your life. That's what you need, buddy. I don't think I know you don't see it that everybody else does. So, can you just stop talking for a second? I don't think I think what people He still can't stop talking, right? Still can't stop talking. Not even for one second. Won't let anybody else get a word in. Completely embarrassing person. Local 556. I I really hope that you feel shame. Okay, let's look at Lou cuz holy [ __ ] Lou, man. Care, man. I'm not trying to convince you. Like Tupacabra said, you clearly have really serious issues about the idea that this stuff could be real, and you have decided to take it out on me and therefore assume that everything I say must be false. And I'm here to just tell you, I have not lied one single time. Boom. This was after initial just yelling at me, right? And I just jump in and say, "Look, I don't care what you think. What I'm saying is true. Go ahead and prove me wrong." If if if it upsets you that much that you think I'm lying, you know what? Spend every day of your life trying to prove me wrong. Go for it, man. You know why it's going to be so hard? Cuz I'm not lying. Feels bad. Feels bad. However you deal with that, however you determine that, I don't care, man. Listen, and to be clear, I'm not here to back up Ashton or to, you know, [ __ ] on Ashton. I'm here to defend Skyfire News for covering Ashton. You know, there's a lot of Okay, so this is it's going to get good here. Yeah. No, I have a literal army of trolls coming at me. It is wild, man. I was threeon-one on this uh space as well where these guys are all just airing out all their personal grievances. I I've never interacted with like any of these people. Um other than like what you saw in the DMs, I've never made a post about any of these people ever before, right? And everybody is just holy crap. You'd think that they'd be relieved. I'm I'm uh handing off the MH370 investigation to Grant. Grant is going to take up the MH370 investigation, guys. Obviously, he wanted to uh otherwise he wouldn't have been sending me so much information. I can't wait to see Grant, UFO researcher and filmmaker and student of Foya. I can't wait to see Grant's work. Oh man, it's going to be wonderful, guys. I'm absolutely sure Grant's going to get up to uh how many followers we have? 79,500 from his 4,300. I'm sure he's going to get up there, chat. I'm sure he'll get there. handing it all off to him. Lot of people. So, here we go. Reviews now over us reporting what Ashton is saying and it makes no [ __ ] sense. Did I see this coming? No. I came in here. I thought I was going to be here with like average Chris and this Osiris guy and instead I get these other weirdos who like why are they so obsessed with him? Yeah, they're just mad they don't get attention. So, that's why we're doing it tonight, chat. We're going to give them the attention that they want, right? We're going to validate them and their like fragile egos. give them the attention that they want. Uh, you know, because obviously they need it. Otherwise, I don't know what they were doing in here, right? We must be all inside working for the government as he claims. We must all be inside working for the government as he claims. Ultimate gaslight 101. I have literally never never accused anybody of working for the government on disinformation. Not anybody. The closest it comes is probably the post that I deleted related to Ross Kolhart and um Lu Alzando and uh what was the other one? Uh James Fox. I've never accused anybody of working for the government. This guy just keeps gaslighting like he he's got this whole story in his head about me, right? Like this is definitely a Redditor. 100%. Now I'm going from 99 to 100% he's a Redditor, right? Um, he built this whole story in the background about me. He's got all this stuff in his head where he thinks I'm lying to people and taking advantage of them and he thinks he's the hero that's going to come and save us. Like, dude needs to take it easy from the internet for a while, buddy. Can I Can I come on? Okay, now we got Lou reviews. Yeah, this is kind of equivalent to you chose violence, isn't it? On that, is that L reviews? Yes, please. L review. Uh, go ahead. Um, I think the issue, Keem, is that you guys have these spaces. Sometimes they're super long and it seems like almost every single one is either co-hosted or or, you know, kind of like a group session with Ashton Forbes. So, you guys want to know the truth? He says that Skyfire has really long spaces. I think the longest spaces Skyfire had was like 3 hours. There might have been some other spaces, like one space that went long, but I don't even think it was a Skyfire space. All the Skyfire spaces have been really short. I've never co-hosted a single one. I didn't co-host any Skyfire spaces. Now, let me make sure that I'm not lying about that. No, I'm I'm like 99% sure I didn't I did not co-host a single one. I've literally just been on the panel and it's never been about MH370. We've literally just talked about random stuff. that's out there. Lou Reviews is so jealous that I'm allowed to have an opinion and he feels like he like Yeah, it's almost like I'm not invited. Why was I not on the panel? And you have two guys on the Skyfire News team that are not journalists and that have been shown a few times. They're not journalists, dude. Journalist is just a label, man. Like Lou Reviews thinks that like oh someone's gonna bestow upon you the title of journalist. Like this is how Lou thinks in his like completely like tiny universe that he lives in, right? He thinks that there are se there are experts out there that tell you what to think and it's because he was like just a waiter, right? This guy was a waiter. He's a failed actor. Um you know and he's a failed podcaster as well, right? So everything that's wrong in his life is somebody else's fault. the fact that he he he says that basically like you can imagine in his mind he's got no control, right? All the bad things that happen out of his control because everything else is run by the elites or whatever else that um decide what's true and what's not, right? that they have a heavy heavy heavy bias towards believing and when you guys have Ashton as part of your panel for everyone what's that Lou reviews got burnt by Le is that Lou Alzando had a meltdown and had to bail out of the UFO YouTube community wow yikes Lou reviews that's some dirty laundry is that true lur really get burnt by Lu Alzando have a meltdown then have to bail out of the community no wonder he's so jealous and bitter. Holy crap. If that's true, wow, that explains a lot. Where where Rona single thing. It's You're platforming him. You're platforming him. What? This is like he shouldn't be allowed to have a voice. Like, what do you mean, dude? It's a speaker panel on Skyfire News where I'm literally endorsing them and I'm on the panel. How is that? Well, you're allowing a guy. Well, I've got 79,000 followers. Of course, I'm on the speaker panel. Lou Reviews, how many followers do you have, bud? 6,000. Yeah, of course. They're going to put somebody who's going to get a lot of people in there on the panel, right? Just makes common marketing sense. And the issue is is that people are trying to get some honest answers out of this. and he's claiming that he's he's found the solution for anti-gravity technology. So obviously like what is none of this has anything to do with one another, right? Like you can find out right now this is some weird bitter personal vengeance vendetta against me, right? He doesn't want me on the speaker panel. He says he's people are trying to get the the truth. I don't know what that even means. is like it's like one of these weird gatekeeper things, right, where like only whatever Lou says can be true. Ashen says he's found anti-gravity. Well, we found several theories of it. Absolutely. And like four theories of unification as well. That's a fact. Whether or not you believe those are up to you. I don't care what people believe. Um and now he's so offended by the idea that somebody else figured something out and he wasn't told by the authority or the TV that it could be real. It wasn't on the news that obviously Ashton he shouldn't be allowed to be able to speak. That's his claim. That's his claim. He's claiming things, guys. He's having opinions. Can you believe this, guys? Someone is having opinions that I don't agree with. I'm L reviews. I do a failed podcast that nobody watches. Even though I've been doing this for like how many years has this guy been doing this? Forever. Imagine crying like a little [ __ ] like this. Jesus. Why are we even He feel like this guy's going to have a heart attack, man. Like, don't work yourself up this much, L reviews. Like, you're going to literally like I worry about your blood pressure, my dude. the the videos that he's basically the videos the videos he's basically like what can you imagine having this much hate in your heart in your heart I cannot imagine being this hateful all of this information off of comes from an anon account somebody posted a video anonymously this is unacceptable it didn't come from Jeremy Corbel or Luisando or James Fox how can I believe this with fake [ __ ] videos on it of fake [ __ ] videos on the YouTube account. So obviously this can't be real. That's my logic. UFOs. That's what they teach you when you're an a failed actor and a waiter, everybody. So why should we take anything past that fact? Why should we take anything past that fact? Jesus, man. My god, guys. There's more. I got more Lou reviews stuff. Lou is on. He was cooking everybody. It's a waste of [ __ ] time. Everything I don't believe in is a waste of time. I'm L reviews. [Music] Everything else is a waste of [ __ ] time. He found a video that was on a YouTube account that had fake videos on it. This is all a waste of time. I wasn't told this is true. And it's frustrating. Of course, it's very frustrating because people believe things that you don't believe. It's very frustrating. You could just I don't know. Let me think. Live your life and go do something else. No, I can't do that. I can't live that way. It's frustrating when you guys have him on here just spouting all of this pseudocience and [ __ ] The reason he he might have gotten an invite from Joe Rogan. Okay, great. Oh, he might have gotten an invite from Joe Rogan. It might have happened now. He was the first one lying about it, saying there was no chance it happened. Uh, you know, and now, did they ever admit that they're wrong, chat? They never admit that they're wrong, right? It's just they move on to the next weird fake narrative that they're building around me, right? It's like, and this is why I give them rope. They wonder why I don't show the DMs or all this other [ __ ] cuz I'm happy to let them hang themselves, dude. Just go be lie as much as you want, right? And I'm going to bring the hammer down on you and make you look like the jackass that you are, right? So that it's just wild, dude. Hey, but Joe Rogan decided not to have him on because it's a [ __ ] [ __ ] theory and he said that himself and and you're right to have that opinion when you describe how is he so mad, dude. Like there's no way Lou reviews I don't know if Lou Reviews realizes this, but Lou Reviews is actually anti-disclosure entirely, right? Like it's not even a matter of sides, but like Lou Reviews is actually working against his own best interest, right? Um, you know, like it's just wild. Like he he wants to be asleep, right? He's like the NPC in the Matrix that wants to go back to sleep. Like he can't he can't deal with the reality that the Matrix is real, right? Like he needs to be asleep that he needs the agents to protect him, right? Like like totally like Yeah, fascism. He's he loves it. You're right to have that opinion, Lou. But when you describe when you describe our spaces as uh you know, Tuba Red, two believers, and Ashton, who you know, obviously everyone knows Ashton's position. Um, that would be fine if that was our stage, but that's not our stage. We I love how through this whole thing, too, Keemstar is just I know he's probably laughing when he's muted or whatever, but like he keeps it 100% calm, right? Why do people wonder why I don't like why I like Keemstar? Keemstar even says here he thinks the videos are probably fake, right? And why? I'm not going to attack him because I don't care, right? He just says it in a calm way. Who cares, right? He's not sitting there trying to prove that I'm a liar or or yelling about how I shouldn't be allowed to be on the speaker panel because he doesn't believe it. Like he just he wants people to be able to talk, right? Lou Reviews, on the other hand, is like straight up complete fascist. Like anybody I don't believe shouldn't be allowed to talk. Total nonsense. We always have like the number one debunker in the space. Average cr. You guys are calling yourself news. That would be like that would be like, you know, um you guys are calling yourself news Twitter account. Relax. [ __ ] who's in the news? Like P. Diddy [ __ ] uh co-hosting a show on CNN or Fox News, you know, just to take away the attention of his lawsuit. Like it's just this [ __ ] would be fire, though. It's it's a little it's it's there's never any push back from a news so-called Tupacabra. I love Tupac. How can anyone not like Tupacabra, guys? How can you not like Tupacabra? Just perfect comment right there. Yeah, the amount of entitlement from all these people tonight, guys. Through the freaking roof. I've never seen this much entitlement in a in a space before. I was actually done doing troll hunts and holy crap today was I just getting it from all sides and how much they project their insecurities is just incredible. I mean you could do psychology uh uh um uh what do you call case studies on this stuff all day long all for a whole semester. News network and I think that's what you can't call yourself a news network. Like who does Lou reviews think he's like the arbiter of what's a news organization and what a journalist is and how everybody needs to conduct themselves? Like maybe if he's acting, man, that would be good. Imagine if he was actually acting here and not being honest. But he's being honest with his emotions. But if he was actually acting here, I'd say, "Holy [ __ ] maybe this guy could get a role as an actor." But no, no, it's failure at that, too. Where the frustration is, it's like I it's I have an appreciation for what you guys are doing. I say it almost every time I do a live show. So, it's not like this is coming from a hater perspective. It's just It's definitely coming from a hater perspective. 100%. It's coming from a hater perspective. We just listened to you ranting for like three minutes about how I shouldn't be platformed and you don't like me and the stuff I'm saying is obviously fake and uh you know that it shouldn't be allowed. Like, that's just straight up fascist [ __ ] Uh, it's it's censorship of people and ideas that you don't like. Um, it it really doesn't have any place in America whatsoever. Uh, it's one of the most unpatriotic, unamerican things I've ever heard anybody say. Uh, L reviewviews, I really hope you're ashamed. I really hope you are ashamed, man. If you take anything out of this, me railing on you guys tonight. I hope that you guys feel some sense of shame because I'm going to be honest. Here's my best advice for you guys. The best advice for you to come out tomorrow and apologize for your aborant behavior in this space and your crazy psychotic messages that you've been making about bunch of [ __ ] lies you've been making up about me because you guys invent these silly narratives in your head. Best thing you could do would be come out tomorrow, admit you were wrong, say you're sorry, say that you didn't mean any harm for me uh and that you're never going to talk about me again. If you did that, people would actually respect you a little bit. people would actually respect you a tiny bit. If you do anything other than that, you're doomed to the anals of being just the butt crack losers of society, right? That's the truth of it, right? Whether or not you take that advice or not, my I guess you're going to probably double down. If I had to guess, I'd say you're probably going to double down. Um, but you know, that's the true advice. The people that don't take my advice usually end up regretting it and they end up taking the advice at some point. So the information is so frustrating and it's so difficult to combat because the information is so frustrating and difficult to combat. Like what, dude? Yeah. Because it's just factual information that we've been digging up. It's not something that we're building some weird fake narrative. We're literally looking up the evidence. We are using the scientific method which is using a hypothesis matching to the evidence and then coming to a logical conclusion as opposed to going which expert told me that like idiot ass Lou reviews does he has no idea what science even means because it's six hours of verbal diarrhea that is pseudocience and it's frustrating as [ __ ] because and as if Lou reviews is the arbiter of what's pseudocience or not right Lou reviews probably doesn't even know a first thing about any science science whatsoever. Right? When you're trying to be an actor, the last thing I think you really are educated on is when it comes to science. I mean, if I had asked Lur Reviews what science meant, he wouldn't even be able to answer the question. He'd be like, "Science is what CNN tells me or what NASA tells me in their announcements as opposed to realizing that science actually stands for the scientific method. Skyfire's never hosted a six-hour long space. I don't think I I can assure you I can assure you uh without doubt that we're never going to be part of the or the believers or they're saying, you know, all this is [ __ ] and Ashton Forbes needs to be deleted from the internet. He literally was saying that, right, chat? He was literally saying that everything that Ashton says is [ __ ] Ashton has to not be allowed on the speaker panel. No one should be listening to Ashton. Like just straight up whack job stuff, man. Imagine saying that about somebody else and thinking that you are in any high road position. The best thing that anybody could do out there is unsubscribe from Lou Reviews's YouTube channel. Unfollow him, right? He's just a baiter like react wannabe like going nowhere kind of YouTuber, right? Um this is probably his job, his real job too. So, the sad part is he probably depends on that uh to get by, which is I hope that's not the case. I mean, he needs to go get a real job, you know, do something else other than this, rehabilitate his image, whatever he's got to do. But rants like this are just no place whatsoever anywhere. Like, nobody's going to want to ever hire you if you're coming out with rants and attacking people like this because they think that you're going to come into their workplace, right? And that you're going to just start making enemies out of everybody, right? for no reason whatsoever because you start to build these weird narratives in your head about Jenny stole my sandwich from the from the refrigerator yesterday and Jenny's like, "Dude, I don't even know who you are. I don't even eat sandwiches. I'm a vegetarian." And he's got a platform to say it. Lou, I never said he should be deleted from the internet. Bro, you can't put words in my mouth like that. Um, my bad. You know what I mean. You know what I mean? You Okay, so where is the next L reviews? Oh, so Lou Reviews gets on in again here. feels personal for a lot of you guys, you know, and I think that's part of the problem, right? Is that you've decided that you think that the videos that I've been promoting and the story that I've been promoting are fake and therefore everything I say must be wrong. And you're so desperate and adamant to prove it to yourselves and everyone else. The reality is and now they just they always interrupt me, right? Like I literally can't say anything at these guys, right? They it's personal to them, right? They've decided that whatever I'm promoting can't be real because it breaks their uh fragile perspective of reality. Um and yeah, and that's what this all comes down to, right chat? That's what this all comes down to. Zero days UFO sober. I mean, the dude needs to definitely take a break from UFO for sure. I've said many times, relax, relax. I I I Hey, chill out, man. Let me speak. They don't even like literally wouldn't even let me speak, right? They have the three three people going on me at once. I can't even speak for 15 seconds without them cutting me off. And it's just like this is what trying to deal with these like whack jobs in the UFO community is all about, right? This is why I'm stepping away. There's definitely a huge element of jealousy here. There's an element of their world views are being threatened. There's an element of we don't know this guy or like this guy. He can't know anything. and the official experts that I know, you know, don't tell me this is true, so therefore, you know, it can't be like all kinds of just super weird [ __ ] No class. Um, yeah, just just bad people, you know, just bad people, man. Address that. I want to address that. I I've said many times on my show that your research, who knows, could Lou Reviews has like basically reamed us on every single show that he's been able to ream us on non-stop. Right? He's never given this case any chance whatsoever. He's never honestly or uh unbiasedly look at the evidence, right? He is a typical Redditor brain, right, who his opinion is based on whatever his peers tell him to think. He's never had an original thought in his whole life as far as I can tell, right? Um that's what kind of people, honestly, a lot of these people, but definitely Lou Reviews is right. You know, like could lead to where maybe that plane is. And if that's the case, awesome. [ __ ] F. He literally just went on a whole rant talking about how I shouldn't even be allowed to be on the panels and everything I say is a lie. And now he's trying to claim that the investigation should be able to show or could show where the plane is at. Yeah. Uh, okay. That's kind of a weird shift. Fantastic. Okay. But it's everything else that comes along with that. So it's not personal. It's not that I [ __ ] hate personal, you know, like you're a gamer. you're nerd. Like I think there's a lot of things that a lot of people in here can relate to you on, but it's just like the the frustration. His compliments are that I'm a gamer and I'm a nerd. That's the compliments that he's giving me. Really good compliments there, Lou. Uh I've basically played no video games in the last six months, but sure, nerd. I guess I'll take of like you just completely ignore facts and that I ignore facts, chat. I I'm pretty sure Lou doesn't know what the definition of a fact is because for Lou, a fact is whatever everybody else thinks is true, right? That's the difference, right? That's the problem with a lot of Redditor brain people is that for them, what a fact is is what everybody how people make them feel, right? And how many people they But I'm not. That's right. The thing, man, the science is real. The people that debunked it didn't use any science whatsoever. I've actually gone out of my way. Let me speak, Lou. He like literally won't even let me say like one word, you know? Like the guy goes on for like a minute and a half, won't let me even get a word in. I the I literally am learning electrical engineering myself in order to prove it to be real. I'm literally talking with actual Navy DoD engineers and scientists who are saying it's real. Who's on your side that's saying it's not from a scientific perspective? Nobody. Man, that was even funnier when you listen to yourself do it. Like this guy, why is he thinking that he has science on his side? What does he think science even is? Which scientist does he think is on his side? And why is he so adamant that there's no possible way that you can move fast as the speed of light? Why is he so adamant about that? Does he have know anything about physics at all? What does he think? What does he think about like Einstein's equations? You know, I'm pretty sure the dude's never taken a science class in his whole life, right? let alone even thought about what's possible. I don't Let me just say one last thing. Yes, I can. Yes, I can. Yes, I can say it. I'm allowed to say whatever I want, Lou. And I can say I'm allowed to say whatever I want. I'm allowed to have my own opinions. And even if it's not really true, I'm allowed to say it as long as I believe it. That's what free speech is. Now, in this case, it's also true. But you don't have to agree, right? But the idea that I shouldn't be allowed to talk because Lou is somehow the arbiter of what's real and what's not, or that Grant is, or this local 556, or any of these morons out there like average Chris, or this Jeremy McGawan guy, or even John Greenwalt, whose whole job is selling dildos and doing foyer requests. None of these people know what's true. None of them have ever done any science in their whole lives. None of them are arbiters of the truth to anybody. The best advice I would give all of them is never say my name again. Go do something else for the rest of your life. Anything else. And when you find out that it's true, I'm not even going to demand that you apologize for all the [ __ ] you said here. I'm certainly not going to accept your apology if you do offer it. Cuz if you act like this to me or like John what John Greenwalt did today and then the science ends up being true and you come back go, "Oh, oh well CNN told me it's true now, Ashton. So sorry about being a [ __ ] to you." No. [ __ ] off, dude. You're a piece of [ __ ] You should have learned your lesson before CNN told you, right? Don't be an [ __ ] to people. It's pretty simple. Otherwise, you get troll hunts like this. I got an idea. You're right. They can't be an idea. I got an idea. Okay, let me just say one and get the So, what's the last? Uh, can I just say I got to go. I just got done cooking dinner for my girlfriend. We're going to go eat Valentine's Day dinner. Um, if the science is so great, write a paper that gets peer-reviewed and put on a scientific murder board by your peers. And Grant Grant again upvoted. These guys are just full CNN brain, right? Write a paper. Um, I'm literally posting the papers on my Twitter account. Literally posting them. I posted a cop greater than one paper. Bob Greener is actually an author on that paper. It came out like a month ago, right? All we do is look at papers. Here's another one talking about the potential for I believe this one is some type of gravitational uh waves being Oh, this is uh this is Eric W. Davis, right? Um higher uh orthodoxy of physics, six layer model for anomalous phenomenon. I've got papers all over right now, chat. I've got more as well where that comes from. So, this idea that I need to write a paper, I don't even know where this guy's even coming from with this nonsense. Uh, is this not the right one? Let's see. Where's the other one? I got too many windows open, chat. This isn't the one either. Oh, Grant Lavox YouTube stream. Oh, there it is. Sorry, J. Here we go. If it's so great, you're not going to figure it out in a space. That's just entertainment. That's not science. Write a paper, man. Write a paper. And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first guy in line to apologize to you. Lure reviews. This is the part, too, where like they want to treat other people like crap. They want to pretend like they're superior and they're smarter. uh they want to defame me and say all this crap about me and uh you know whatever and then they they just want to have it both ways too where like oh if it turns out you're right well then I'll say sorry you didn't say sorry when you were wrong about Joe Rogan and also I don't want to hear your apology I just want you to stop attacking me if you don't believe in it fine move on do something else with your life is it clear yet I've had to say it like four times move on do something else with your life. Anything else doesn't involve me, doesn't involve MH370. Whatever the hell you want to do, dude, do it. Okay? It's really that simple. But I don't care. The papers are already out there, man. No one is trying to prove anything to you. No one cares. That's the point. You're too egotistical. You're too up in your own head about thinking that everyone has to prove to you the reality. They don't. Boom. Honestly, that's that's really the hammer, right? These people like Lure Reviews are so up in their own head making up fake stories about how everything works and what have you that when something comes in that breaks that story, this is their this is how they lash out, right? This is their reaction. They think that the other person must be lying because the story they built in their head must be the truth. You know, the woman in the replies really nailed it. Um I I'm trying to remember which reply. Let's let's find it real quick, chat. Um I think it was this one. Yep, it was this one. Where is she? Here it is. By the way, this is what it's like just being a woman in public. I thought about that and I think, "Wow, that's that's true, guys." Like, these are the kinds of sociopaths that are like building stories in their head about like women that they're going past thinking that they're being slighted by them or their girlfriends and making these imaginary stories up in their head, right? And I said, 'I bet. It's scary how these man children invent weird stories in their heads and then act out on them. When I listened to that nut job scream at me for 30 minutes straight, I realized how disturbed some of these people are, right? Like this has actually broken these some of these guys' brains. And like I don't know why this guy has such a weird personal connection to me that I'd never even heard of before last night. Right. And he's just again saying like we are like he thinks that I've like kicked his dog or that I cheated on his girlfriend or something with him or cheated with his girlfriend. Like this is not normal behavior for people to be acting. And then the girl comes back and says, "The scary part is how these people have to create an imaginary relationship with you in order to be comfortable being that abusive. Imagine talking like that to a guy just sitting at a desk in the library face to face, right? Like none of these people, at least I hope to God that none of these people talk to other humans in the real world like this, right? I hope to God that they don't because if they do, man, they are going to get arrested at some point. Like this is psychotic, abusive, emotionally abusive, verbally abusive behavior. Um, it's unhealthy. Like I can't imagine thinking about someone all the time like these people are doing uh and building these weird bizarre stories, fake stories about people. Like these are the kinds of people that like I'm not going to say any more mean stuff about them, but you guys can imagine that they probably don't have very healthy relationships. Um and it's just a situation where you like the best advice is they just need to go away and do something else. Go outside. Get off the internet for like a while. Take a break, you know? Don't obsess about what other people are doing in your life. Do something else. Yeah. I think it's just they have issues, right? And then I'm just the target for it, right? Um and then I say, well, you know, that's a great point. You know, what they've done is they created this imaginary relationship with me. I don't have any relationship to Lou reviews. I have no relationship to Grant other than like 10 DMs that we read out earlier. I have no relationship with uh this I didn't even know who the hell this local 5.56 guy even was. Never even heard of him, right? No relationship whatsoever. And yet they're acting like they I owe them uh to act a certain way to respect their criticisms and they're opining about the way that I act and stuff like holy [ __ ] And then they're the ones who trying to say that I'm narcissistic or egotistical. Wow, buddy. Wow. Like, wow, man. You need to stay away from weapons. You need to stay away from other humans. You need to go talk to a psychiatrist. You need to work out all these issues you've got. And I think we've run through them, right? You've got Chris who's got the savior complex. You've got Lou reviews who's like clearly been like slighted or whatever by Lu Alzando and it's just broken him and broken him as a person. He's a broken man. You've got this uh local 5.56 with total psychopath who has no reason to even be connected to me whatsoever. Who's got probably a mixture of a savior complex as well as like this idea that everything he knows is right and he's trying to and nobody else can know anything that's true and that he's got to save everyone from the angry people who are lying to people. And then you got Grant who's obviously just jealous and for some reason feels like the world like he's the arbiter of what's true or what's not in the UFO community and that he's going to be the one to peer review somebody's conspiracy or whatever weird [ __ ] he was thinking. Like he didn't even come at it from an honest place and I knew in the chats right away that he wasn't right because that's not how people do it. They don't come to your DMs trying to argue with you about little elements. Um so like these guys all have issues they got to work out. Um, and the best thing they could do is not interact with me anymore. Like if they if I knew they were like in my area around me, I would get restraining orders against every single one of them. And I would just literally play that recording and I would just get a restraining order against them because it's weird parasocial [ __ ] like this is what turns me off from the UFO community in general. And these are, if you want to take credit, these are the reasons why I'm stepping away from MH370 in general because it's psycho [ __ ] like this that I don't want to be dealing with in my life. And I think these people just need to cool off, right? So the idea here is that I step away from the case for a while. Let me flip this over. I step away from the case for a while. I don't know how long, months, years, not really sure. Uh till something else pops up or whatever, right? Till until I feel like people have chilled out. Let these people chill out. Let these people realize what kind of nasty, weird psychopaths they've been. Um maybe they'll come to terms and realize that I'm a real person and not some whatever weird thing they've built up in their heads about me. I'm not sure if they will. Um but I hope that they do. I hope that they, you know, find Jesus or whatever they need um in order to relax. I hope L um Lou reviews um does goes on a diet maybe cuz like honestly some of the way he's breathing during some of this as well like I I really get worried he's gonna have a heart attack in the middle of one of these spaces. Especially the way he works himself up like you know I want him to live for a long time. Um, so you know, but that's the reason. So I mean, if you guys want to take credit, it's it's psycho stuff like this that I just don't need it in my life, you know. Um, you know, I've got other stuff going on and I'm happy for all the people that have made related to the case. We've done almost all the evidence. Uh, we do have a few more things that are coming up, guys. So, we have uh a few posts that I'm working on actually right now and after the stream tonight, I'm gonna work on a little bit more. Let me find them. Okay. So, we've got um should I show it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, we've got the Immersat post, which there's a lot of juicy stuff about Immersat here. Um related to Immersat, they had airplane in the sky while it was still on the ground. They also had a situation where the terminals are ripe for malware exploitation. And the person that even posted about it was actually Victor Ilano. And not only that, but there's also a weird angle where the plane might not have actually been the MRO model. It might have been the other model. Um, because MH370 was actually seen flying on flight radar for like 15 minutes. Like I think it was in December of later that year. So, there's a lot of weird stuff that kind of aligns to this idea that the tracking, the satellite tracking might not have made sense because if you could hack the satellite, all you have to do is change like one number and then all the analysis would have the plane going somewhere else. And the general way they're talking about this is they're saying, well, this means that the plane would have gone north instead of going south. But I'm guessing that this could be the way this is manipulated, it can probably be anything, right? They could play, could have gone anywhere, you know, even Diego Garcia. Um, debris. So, with the debris here, Jeff Wise, I'll have to dig around for it probably, but he made the post about the debris and this this account here dug into it and found out, man, you're drinking that water hard. Uh, they found out that the debris, like the debris would have had to drift 3,000 nautical miles. 3,000. I think the idea that the debris drifted 3,000 miles is pretty insane. There's almost no way, right? And this is the whole thing and why they had to falsify these debris uh um tests that they did. One of these posts right here in these links actually talks about that the debris couldn't have drifted that far and that the they actually failed the first debris test. The first debris test they did had no chance the debris would have made it 3,000 miles and then they did another one, right? Because they have to falsify a different one and then they quickly say, "Oh yeah, well we looked at it and yeah, now we we're convinced that the debris would have made it there." It's not exactly scientific, right? Um so it seems like the debris situation and that's um corroborated by the lepus, the little things that grow on the u debris itself. were apparently not consistent with the angle or the wind or any of that stuff related to how the debris would have floated there. So, it's actually in my opinion going to be a really strong argument that the debris would have come from Diego Garcia instead of coming from the South Indian Ocean because you think about it too in terms of even if you modeled the debris uh like the water patterns um it's going to be hard to put the debris into the location in the ocean where you think they're going to search for it, right? And we would have found it too. So, yeah. And I'm going to write that down. Here's the thing. If the debris was deposited in the south Indian Ocean, we would have seen it, right? So, it probably didn't originate from the South Indian Ocean and most likely they falsified the debris uh drift pattern analysis in order to falsely justify that it somehow could have traveled 3,000 miles just drifting in the ocean. That's a long way for some of the debris to shift and to drift. Um, then there's another one for espionage. Again, the same idea that they switched out the planes. This is basically going to be a review of the um letter to me, but there's a few other things I found out. So, they could have switched the planes and they could have then hacked the satcom ahead of time to manipulate the the routing. This would actually also be supported by the IR the fact that it never switched over to P. Um there's a huge mountain range as well um that goes up to about 7,000 ft. And this would actually explain why they flew to Pinang instead of going back to Qualur because it would have been nighttime. And if it's at night time you're afraid that you're going to crash into the mountains if you're flying too low. Really dangerous because you can't see anything. It's not like there's lights on the top of the mountains, right? So, this is why they went to Pinang. It also zigzagged before the plane went dark. Probably due to the explosion of the fire alarms going off and then the pilot is taking manual control of the plane and the plane's on fire and they're trying to figure out what they should do, right? This, I think, is why they zigzagged. And then, of course, the free scalers sitting next to each other. Pretty bizarre stuff. Um, then there's two more. My hero. I'm going to write another one about Edward C. Linn. Uh, I'm probably going to call this one I might change the name. I don't know. I might call it the SCOP because the reality is I think they scoped the world into thinking that this guy was going for uh, you know, that he was a traitor that like why would you have this prostitution charge? Like that's super weird. We're charging you with espionage for life, but we're also going to put a prostitution charge on there. Like, that was definitely used to manipulate the media into thinking he was a bad guy because he wasn't a bad guy, right? And they knew he wasn't. That was the problem. Like, he was a through and through patriot. And the nice thing about this piece is that no matter what, even if somehow he wasn't the guy that leaked the videos, um, this guy's still a good guy. Edward Cin's still a good guy. Um, like I'm 100% sure I he didn't do anything. He did not They admitted that he didn't do anything that that was considered espionage. He exchanged nothing with anyone from China. So, no matter what, this guy's not a bad guy. I'm sure of it. And then awakening. I haven't started this at all either, but awakening would potentially be a piece where I talk about um my own personal awakening in terms of believing whether or not stuff's real or not. I mean, I you know what I wonder a lot, chat, is that would I have been Lu Alzando or Local 5.56 or even Grant if I hadn't seen these videos? If I hadn't done this investigation? I sure as hell hope not. I like to think that I would not have been somebody who's as unhinged and rude as those guys are, but maybe, man. I don't know where the line is between when you're somebody who's awake or when you're somebody who's a CNN brain and you're asleep, right? Not really sure where the line is on that. So, that's what I want this piece to be about is about my own awakening in terms of what matters. um the nature of the UFO disclosure in general, advanced science that's being kept hidden from us, and then um how we get the information out there, right? Of course, the stuff sounds really crazy, right? Like when you're talking about a plane being teleported, that's so far out there from the scientific perspective that it does seem impossible to believe. But we're looking at in two videos, so you can't just ignore it. That's the thing, right? you can't just ignore it. So, when you look at two videos like this and you've got you've got a thermal video like this that shows the drone that shows the plane, the plane's in exact coordination with the second video which indicates that you need to have a 3D render environment. Like, you've already got too much evidence that you can't ignore this, right? You can't just say, "Well, it doesn't look right to me, right? Like this is already way too much evidence. Not the fact just the fact that the dates coincide when the plane really went missing for a fake video like this. That alone should be enough to prove the videos are real without anything else. Right? The only thing holding people back and you hear it and you hear it in their anger and their voices. He's talking about aliens teleporting a plane to the other dimension. Right? Like you can tell that that's what the hangup is in people's minds. If there were no orbs and we were just looking at a plane here, nobody would be trying to debunk this video. If we were just looking at a plane flying around, everyone would go, "Yep, this is the United States government tracking MH370." No question. Everyone would be on board with it because you see these orbs. This is what makes everybody immediately think it can't be real because it defies it breaks every aspect of what their belief system is. Every aspect of it means every single authority's been lying to them. It means that we've had technology that would change the world and we've been living like idiots this whole time. Um, so yeah, you just can't ignore it, right? Even this video, which is even harder, this video is even harder to believe because we have no frame of reference for it. The other one's clearly a drone video from an MQ1C Grey Eagle or an MQ9, right? This one it's like you we actually had to figure it out and it wasn't that easy to figure out. And you can see all kinds of stuff moving in the background and um either waves disappearing or clouds moving even though it's only a few seconds long, right? Um but even in this video, you know, just the fact there's a Citrix session and this weird movement of the camera, nobody ever sees that in any kind of fake video. None of the all basically every everything you see in these videos is completely unprecedented including these coordinates you see in the bottom left like this is either some super elaborate hoax right or this is uh just real right and there's no the hoax makes no sense the raw data on this wasn't even the raw data on the telemetry wasn't even available till a week afterwards so they were either some kind of superstalker of the original case that came up with these fake videos cuz they were like I don't know paying attention into like the cruiser forums and uh Katherine T and they believe that Katherine T was telling the truth even when everybody else said that she wasn't and they made a whole fake video around Katherine T's sighting or these videos are just real because the data was raw data wasn't even available but when these videos came out and we have literal telemetry data with six coordinates six posi decimal places in the coordinates indicating the real location of the plane that was only known after the raw data was available Everything before that was highly speculative. Everybody's arguing about where it went and where it could have gone, right? So that's why we can't ignore it, guys. So what's coming next? Oh, I was not showing the videos that whole time, guys. Jesus, guys. Okay, so we've got the video. This was the the drone one. I should have showed it again. I was sitting there talking to the chat while I'm staring at it. Okay, so we've got one drone video and then we've got our satellite video, right? We've got our coordinates that weren't known. Um, we've got our perspective changes. We have our Citrix session, right? We've got perfect uh engineering 100 120 degrees 0 point sinocidal pattern going on here. Nobody's going to be able to come close to recreate anything that we see here. Um, even the one guy, Tony Adams or whatever his name is that made like probably the closest recreation just cheated on all of it except for the parts that are original, including the plane, the orbs, and the zap. And he got all of them horribly, horribly wrong. Like, not even close. Those are the only three original parts. And he spent days on it. He spent days on it. And he claimed a while back that he was going to try to recreate the other one, which per obviously failed, right? And the reason why they don't stream it is because a they know it's taking way longer than they're they're claiming. And then b they don't stream it because when they fail, they don't want anybody to see the failures because if they see how hard it was to actually recreate it, how these people have failed at it, um like people did early on in the investigation. Some VFX experts tried to recreate them and all gave up saying it would be too hard. Um if they did that, then it would, you know, hurt their side. And sadly, this is the craziest part. Like these people might not even be getting paid by the government to cover this stuff up. They might just be literally doing it because they're like literal NPCs that want to go back to sleep in the matrix. And if the stuff's real, then they get woken up. That's the crazy part. This is the part where like that local 556 saying everyone's an agent. And I'm actually saying the opposite. One of the things that I've learned as an awakening is that it's not a bunch of agents hiding this information. It's just normal idiots that are fighting against uh the reality of this stuff being real. And that's what makes it so easy to hide. They don't even need agents to do it. And it might be a situation where it's self-fulfilling at this point where um the people just do it because of like weird savior complexes and being like so personally threatened by the idea that somebody knows more than they know and that they might be in the dark. You know, it's like a it's a it's a matter of like some primal fear. Yeah. Okay. So, I'm going to only address this one last time. One more debunk. I have addressed this debunk several times. There are no debunks out there that have not been refuted. Every single one has been refuted. Um, there's somebody named Estimate of the situation that he's also off his rocker like the rest of these guys. He's a grifter that sells comic books at comic at some of these UFO conventions. His whole livelihood is threatened by the idea of disclosure actually happening. Right. A lot of these guys, the whole game is that the UFO community disclosure is a process that will never happen, right, for a lot of these guys. And this estimate of situation guy is one of them as well. And that's why he's a debunker, but he's also somebody selling comic books about the whole disclosure process, right? Because it's just a big industry to him. Um, he came up with this debunk that's been refuted and conclusively refuted um by a bunch of people and he refused to accept it, right? and he claimed that there was two frames that were a match. He's wrong. There are no frames that are a match. It's already been addressed. Um, people tried to point this out to him that the frames don't match. They they even falsely like all the debunkers falsify their evidence, too. Like they modify stuff and then claim weird things like the the jittery thing. They claim stabilization, but they don't address the fact that the stabilization actually modifies the video. Um, same thing with this as well is you can actually see where they use like editing software to uh soften out the background so that they could get it to try to match better. Um, and that's why you see this uh somewhat white part here, but it's not totally white because if these this is an overlay of uh what is it called? Like a reverse overlay of the two images of the two frames. So, if those two frames were the same, then this would be a fully white image and you wouldn't see anything else. What you're seeing here is the difference between the two images. And you can see very very clearly that they're not the same. This would be a white image otherwise. This is a overlay of both of those frames over top. The ones that they've already edited, by the way. So this is after they've edited them to try to get them to match as best as possible, including removing as much of the noise back here around the plane that they could. Right? And so you can see that the noise pattern's completely different. The outline of the plane is completely different. Um, and so this is the part two where I even showed this to the estimate guy. I told him on the in a space about it. And this is the problem with the debunkers is they can never admit when they're wrong. And like it's like we're just looking at it. And oh, am I not showing it? Here it is. Sorry. Here it is, guys. God, I was I wasn't showing you. Okay, I have to do it again real quick. So, this is the one that would be the white frame, right? If this was a perfect match. But you can see that all the stuff here. It's not a perfect match. So, this area around the plane is the part where they've used the editing software to try to get the two frames to match better so that they could lie to people, which is what the debunkers do is that they present false debunks just like they did with the Pyromania one. They edit it that they don't show or tell people that they edit it and then say, "Oh, it's a perfect match." And then you go, "Wait, but you edited it and they go, "Well, of course I edited it." You're like, "Well, that's not how it works, though, right? Like you said, it's a perfect match." And they don't show you this, right? Because even if they show you this, you'd see it's not a perfect match. So, they edit it and then they only show you what they edited and then they claim that they're a perfect match, which is deceptive and it's it's called lying. Um, and then they don't show you all the other frames that aren't even remotely close. They don't even address that, right? That's not relevant for them. And some of them even lie and say the other frames are a match, which is really bizarre. How could you claim there's more? Even one frame is not a match. There's no matching frames. It's not an opinion. It's a it's a fact. Um, and like this is why we booted somebody from our Discord earlier today because if you can't be honest as a debunker that it's not a match and I and people go some of them will even go, "Nobody's claiming it's a match." I get people all the time claiming it's a perfect match. Literally, I had another guy today that I blocked that screamed in all caps as a perfect match. Even after I showed him this literal video, showed him the video. It's just if you can't be honest enough to admit when you're wrong. I'm not going to take anything you say seriously no matter what at all. And this is why I told the debunkers way back when they don't have any credibility. No debunks that show up on Reddit have any credibility. You know, all you're doing is you're damaging the situation where I could help get disclosure out quicker by going on Joe Rogan, right? And if you're so convinced that there's nothing here, you should not you should want me to go on Joe Rogan, right? Because you think I would make a fool of myself, right? If you're so confident in your debunks, then you have no reason to stop me, right? So why are all these people calling podcasters up, telling them not to talk to me, making defamatory stuff about me, having completely unhinged nut job spaces where they act super parasocial as if they know me. Um, it's not healthy and it's it's very dishonest, right? And this is part of the reason how you can tell there's something to these videos. This has never happened anywhere ever in UFO. No videos have ever ever had people completely become so just lie to themselves, right? Like people do about this debunk. Same thing with this debunk. Like we can just see it's not a white image. This is just an overlay of the two images and where the differences are. We can see that they don't match. End of debate, right? Somehow it doesn't end the debate with these guys, right? Somehow estimate of the situation is still telling people that this hasn't been addressed. even though I've addressed it probably three or four times at least. The reason why I don't continue to address it is because it's been debunked. It's not even close. It's not even close to a match. The reticle is not even in the same spot. You can literally just see the reticle is not in the same spot, right? But it supposedly it's a perfect match. Like I don't know what these guys are thinking. Like it doesn't make any actual sense. Like their thought process and their logic is works backwards, right? They start with the videos must be fake. So, I'm going to come up with some sort of confirmatory arguments. And and he's not the one that made this, of course, because they don't they don't actually do what would be required to prove it. And this is why I say how many pixels match because they don't actually do a comparison of pixel matches. If the Pyromania VFX matched, right? Um, then the pixels would match 100%. And they would just use their editing software to show that the pixels match 100%. They don't do that because it's not a match. And if they did that and they did a pixel comparison, they'd find out that because of the blue in the background here, it's probably like a 1% match or less, maybe almost a 0% match. It's not even the right colors, right? So, it's silly. So, and what I'll say too, to the person that we kicked out of the Discord, right, because I know there's some Redditors who are watching, right? We told what was the name? C no bite 78 or whatever. He he lied and he refused to admit that he was lying. He said it would be easy to do. We told him to do it. He said no. I he he refused to do it. And then we could tell that he was lying. He's not actually a VFX artist or expert. He was pretending to be one. He was pretending to have expertise he didn't really have. Um and then I told him all you have to do is get on your stream right now. Turn the stream on. Pull up your editing software. Modify the Pyromania VFX, the one we see here, without comparing to the background. Modify it blindly until you get it to perfectly match the MH370 video. When you think it's perfectly matched, you you say, "Okay, I'm done." And then we'll do a comparison and we'll see if it perfectly matches. And we'll see how long it takes you to do that. And then, you know what? We'll even let you do it again. When it doesn't match, we'll let you try again. We'll we'll mark a strike down and say you didn't get it. Um, and then we'll see how long that takes you to do because I watched the Lodge do it and I watched them fail because it's not as easy. And and he was comparing it in real time side by side. So this idea that somebody blindly changed this into the thing that we see in the background here where it has all these extra explosions here on the inner side. It has this these things that you would delete here for some reason. Extra dots that you would have to delete for some reason. There's no logical basis for changing it like that. you would just do. And the funniest part is he posted the Starship Troopers thing. These debunkers are so stupid. They're so dumb that they actually dis they break their own arguments. He posted the Starship Troopers. I wish I Oh, he deleted it or I deleted it when he got banned. But um the Starship Troopers VFX, that's a huge budget movie, right? Did they modify the Pyromania VFX? No, they put it directly in their movie. They didn't make a single adjustment to it. You can see the Pyromania VFX when the asteroid explodes. You see this exact Pyromania VFX, not modified, not turned black, not changed around, just this exact VFX in Starship Troopers. So, major big budget studio takes the VFX and puts it in there because that's how VFX works. When you use an asset, you just put it in your movie and you add it into your your fake video. your fake video that's a still video of asteroids with one of the asteroids exploding. You don't painstakingly move all the pixels around and change it. You wouldn't do any of that. And that's just the one frame that's close. These other ones are like literally 0.1% of the pixels match or maybe just none of the pixels match. Like it's not even remotely close on the rest of these pixel on the rest of these. So that's why he got bl banned because he lied and he couldn't admit that he was wrong. And this is the problem with the debunkers is they never admit they're wrong and then they project that insecurity onto me because they can't admit that they're wrong, right? And they get angry about it, whatever. I'm stating objective facts. It's not an opinion in this case. I'll tell you when I'm giving an opinion. I'm telling you the fact that these don't match. And I'm telling you how you would have to prove it. You'd have to stream it, not make a video about it. literally stream it live so we can watch so we know you're not cheating because you guys have been caught uh falsifying evidence multiple times, including with this stupid frame matching thing as well. You you persistently falsify evidence. And when you falsify evidence, we can't take anything you say seriously anymore. So, I hope you guys understand that. I mean, I it doesn't really matter at this point anyway because I'm stopping the investigation in a month, but it needs to be on the record for why the debunks don't count. these they don't count because they're not accurate because you falsified fake evidence to fake debunk a video and honestly that kind of thing when you do this right and you're claiming you're the one who did it. If these videos get declassified now you set yourself up for criminal conspiracy charges because you went out of your way to falsify fake evidence to get people to think that those videos weren't real. That's sedicious conspiracy, man. Sedicious conspiracy. You don't actually even have to be a perpetrator. As we found out during January 6th, just people that were at home, part of the riot, who supposedly organized it or part of it, they got 17 years in prison for sedicious conspiracy for something they were not even a part of. So, if you are out there and you are debunking the fate of 239 people falsifying fake evidence in order to do it, you are s I mean, in my opinion, you deserve to go to prison for the rest of your life if you're doing that. If those videos end up being real, if they get like proven, I'm not saying like me saying they're real, but if the government comes out and says, "Yep, you got us. Those those videos are real." You should go to prison for the rest of your life, right? This is not a UAP video of an anomalous random tic tac flying around. This is 239 people's lives where they had thousands of family members that were lied to by the media, by the governments, and you are helping to cover that up. You need to really check yourselves. Cashley, you are a [ __ ] Cashley, am I clear enough? Stop making fake arguments about what you don't know. You're not even a VFX expert. Cashley TV. I hate these idiots like Cash Chrysley or whatever her stupid name is, where they all come out and they all fake pretend like they're VFX expert. None of these people are actually VFX experts. The same way the corridor crew is not even really VFX experts. What they do is they adopt the ideas of other people and then they absorb them into their own. I saw this a lot during COVID as well. I saw even my parents doing it where people literally just make up fake stuff and fake expertise that they don't have. And I literally told them what to do. Cashley, if you if you if I'm wrong about you right now, Cashley, I'm calling you a fraud and a faker. Cashley TV, right now to your face, I'm calling you a fraud. calling you a liar. You are not a VFX expert and you're potentially a piece of [ __ ] If I'm wrong, this is what you have to do. Pull up your stream right now. We're all going to watch you stream it. We're going to watch you pull up your VFX tools right now. We're going to watch you take this asset right here. This one right here. We're going to watch you take this asset and we're going to watch you modify it to the back one right now. I will keep my stream up for you right now. And I will do it. I'm watching right now. Cashley, do it right now. You can't you cannot compare to the background. You can only take this one and you have to blindly modify it. We're all going to watch you right now. We're going to your channel. Let's check it out. This is supposedly our VFX expert, everybody. You got four videos on here and 99 subscribers. Yes, I'm calling you a straightup fraud. We want to watch it right now. We're waiting, Cry. We're waiting for you. The challenge has been set. I want you to take this frame right here. Don't compare it to the background. No comparing it. And I want you to modify it. And when you think you've got it to be a perfect match just from guessing, you tell us. You lock it in. Lock your answer in. And then we're going to compare it. We're going to see how close it is. Let's see it. Are you ready to go? We got your YouTube channel up. Are you done? Christley, are you done? We have the night off. Let's get it. Yeah, that's what I thought. Nothing. Okay. Well, I guess we'll just see you tomorrow then. Make sure you get it set up. Yeah, I'm just sick of the bullshitters, you know, and the frauds and the phonies or whatever. Um, you know, I'm just going to let you know right now, Chrysley is not going to get it to match, and then she's going to have some excuse about why she wasn't able to get it to match. Um, because that's how they work, right? Uh, the debunkers are not living in the realm of reality. Um, and that's that's just the way it is. So, after you fail with the first one, then I want you to try with the second frame. And I want to see how long it takes you to get the second frame to match as well. Since you say it's so easy, I imagine you'll be able to do it very quickly. We'll be looking for you tomorrow, Crashley. I'll be excited. Make sure you you you make sure that my people know so we can watch it. We can all watch it in real time. I think that'll be a really educational experience for us. I'm glad you set yourself up for this. I appreciate it. Okay guys, and I think that's going to be it for tonight. I've been streaming for two and a half hours, so I hope you appreciated or enjoyed at least the troll hunt. I don't really like doing these troll hunts. I don't like calling out the dishonest liars and and the frauds and the phonies, but you know, there was just a lot of it today. So, we wanted to get it out there um and keep it honest as possible with these people. The best thing that people can do is just let it go. If you think it's fake, let it go, right? Yeah. Make sure you set the notifications. We'll we'll get in there. We'll check it out tomorrow. Should be it should be entertaining. Once again, I want to set the ground rules again for you. You cannot compare it to the videos. You can't have the videos up on a second screen. You need to blindly change it without looking at it just like the person who created it. And then when you think you've got it as an exact match, then you can go ahead and lock it in and let us know. And then we'll watch and we'll see how long it takes. Seems exciting. Okay, guys. Have a great night. This was fun. And tomorrow, uh, we're going to probably do some actual science because I think that I've had enough of the [ __ ] drama and what have you. So, there is a Skyfire space, but um I don't know. I'm probably gonna only do that one for a little bit and then we're gonna dig into some science because I have some uh better stuff than that. Chley, you're a clown.