Conspiracy Space & Investigate Earth and Ian Carroll

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# Conspiracy Space & Investigate Earth and Ian Carroll [Music] it's h37 until you do some research don't talk to me I'm going to find the truth while I sit this Mar your opinion it means to me it's m m m m m x37 not all heroes but capes I wear glasses to see I'm going to find the truth while I S this Mar the trolls hate seeing me [Music] succeed but guess what m m h37 [Music] what M 70 not all heroes gles to see I'm going to find the truth while I this Martin your opinion me SP to me your opinion m m h37 now hero glasses to see I'm going to find the TRU I thisy [Music] [Music] what's up everybody good to see you guys um have to mute this hold on good to see you guys here tonight um this is tough I've got the I've got the audio playing in the background here uh welcome everybody to the stream tonight appreciate you guys William nice to see you s23 jml truth speaker cat can Z alapo Kimberly good to see you high for Orbeez good to see you guys hubba hubba what are you saying Steve uh Buster the two my channel how's it going did I send up entropy donations no I have no idea what that means but soon I think you're gonna be able to donate on Twitter so maybe that make you feel better uh sr1 1977 appreciate you um gonna request to speak on there Casey uh aack sniper nice to see you uh Christopher Zen hit the like appreciate you very much man uh Michael cheers Che cheers yeah no Martini tonight Michael sham 6 good to see you the last hard Tru was pretty good I agree crispy nice to see you Joe Moss Alex uh Michael Jackson good to see you yeah that was an AI song it's pretty funny I like it um ano nice to see you MN nice to see you as well bad Sama good to see you uh let's see if I missed anybody else thanks for being here early guys Devin I see you up here as well wow there's a lot of people guys here early PJ Mike I see you UFO nut what's up how's it going manga collector good to see you uh s23 as well wow lots lots of people here appreciate you guys okay so what are we gonna doing tonight first thing we're gonna do is we're gonna jump onto this space with uh Chad and Sherry from investigate Earth I'm trying this out with the new streaming content so let's see how this works with this space right now and hey meem Weaver hey my channel good to see you guys as well let's see if this works yeah so first thing we're going to jump into this stream here give me let me see if I can get this to work I'm going to try to do this with the audio guys let me know if this audio works please flags that were placed in the snow there so that's interesting so if you think about that though if there are multiple Flags multiple Nations over Antarctica then how does that play to do or even or even direct energy weapons like how does that work okay they can hear it right I mean we figured it out chat possibly the biggest question we figured it out because if that is the case and and say if you believe Hecker which as just had on his podcast um and by the way I do believe heger I I I I I believe what he says and he's not the only one that said that I mean you got to go back to Admiral bird um and and many others I think there have been like 11 technically whistleblowers of anarctica that have talked about what what was actually going on in Anar either a potential hollow Earth theory or direct energy weapon type uh system that was place in anarctica but if you have multiple Nations that have some type of joint resolution in an Arctica how does that work like you can are we not seeing something in our and and I know this is supposed to be prop Palestine we already we already went over that but how does that work if you have some system like this does is is Russia people that are they able to come into this facility are they able to know what's going on the same way the United States are um and is there a we don't know about whoever wants to answer that or even want to touch on that I don't know yeah go ahead sorry Ash let me just jump in real quick this is not necessarily Antarctica but this is going to touch on I'm not sure who was just talking about their grandfather or their father that worked there um but I actually just posted in telegram today about the Poseidon um nuclear Torpedoes that apparently Russia has been working with and was looking at an article that was back from January and they apparently have been doing some testing I think it was in bikini atal so you know that the whole point of that would obviously be to create these huge um waves potentially tsunamis I don't think they completely know the um the full effect that it could have as of now but that kind of Tes could be related to some of the anomalies that are being seen also that's good I like that I'm pretty sure that bikini ATL is part of quagan ATL that's pretty spicy pretty it's in the same area I just want to throw out there to Ashton's point when he talks about next Generation technology and we know there's bases in Antarctica no one talks about this with the height of the wave if we don't have physical confirmation of like visuals they work on buoys I believe that go up and down that are able to sense has anyone thought of like a magnet a gravitational anomaly that's moving overhead gravitation yeah and you know Antarctica so sorry for guys I was just getting my stream online but I'm testing this out I think this works right now which is pretty sweet I've never had this uh desktop Twitter thing working correctly but I think I've got you guys in the in the space in the space audio showing up correctly um you know I talked to Eric Hecker about it one of the big questions is what's the significance of the location of anarctica and I would argue there's a couple significant points one for sure is that it's really cold and if you look at Super conductivity which I think is one of the essential prerequisites for a lot of this magic type technology to function a lot of it needs to be very cold um the other aspect is the specific location now there is a magnetic anomaly that's actually in the Indian Ocean um but for Antarctica you know if you look at the Earth like a giant magnet and you've got the magnetic line going from the North Pole to South Pole you can imagine that the South Pole is a pretty unique location that's where all the magnetic fields are kind of connecting down there on the uh the south side of your of your magnet there and if you are trying to shoot a beam somewhere else which Eric Hecker says that the uh Ice Cube nutrino detector if you look at it it's like buried into the Earth uh it's actually like a three-dimensional uh antenna if you want to think of it like that and this can allow for directional manipulation to directed to a specific location that you want to send it and Thomas Bearden would argue that with scaler physics you know you're sending an electromagnetic beam transmitting it and if you were to try to measure the electromagnetic spectrum like the EF or um what are those call them those Ghost Hunter things that they've got you wouldn't detect anything but you can rebuild the energy at a distance through interferometry you know crossing the streams antartic is a great spot for that can shoot it wherever you want out there so I don't think it's any coincidence that we've got this set up in Antarctica now for Chad and Sherry if we get Eric on your show I missed a question that I want you to ask him which is if you you know those pyramids and all that other stuff if he thinks there's like you know wasn't a civilization out there or whatever I'm curious as to what his thoughts are on that because we mostly talked about the the technology and the hardware that's out there and what it can do um last thing I'll say is so you know you have this idea that you can use these devices as a transmitter um the there's the uh what are the AR the things called one of them is called the AR o which is like uh I forgot what it stands for but one of these things shoots a beam a green beam into the sky as well I think that you could argue that some of these are you know being used for communications I think is what he said so that this could be some kind of fashion like communication device that's out there um a lot of really crazy advanced technology that might be happening yeah and Ashton by the way I think that your uh episode with Hecker was amazing I think it was really good um yeah I would love to kind of dive deeper into the uh civilization side of Antarctica I don't know what he knows about that but did did you feel like Hecker was um maybe a little uh not off-putting I don't want to say that but did did you feel like he was more fearful of what like maybe he he kind of stepped back a step based on on uh what was the podcast Sean Ryan do you feel like he stepped back a step on your episode or no how do you feel about that not really I had a preall with him our pre-call went like an hour and a half as well I felt like we could talk for hours I mean I got the impression from him that he's just a normal guy and that he also you know discovered that there is technology out there based on Tesla that's well beyond our understanding and people want to like dismiss him because he's technically in utilities you know as a plumber but these are the people that make everything run you know these are the people that see the inside of how everything works and have to maintain it and fix it and so he went out there and he had this experience where he realized like there's more going on here than what is the official public facing explanation for what's occurring now to answer your question when he talked to AO they did not make him sign any ndas the actually that's not true they did make him sign the NDA but the NDA was only for not disclosing who he was talking to when he went and did his skiff with AO and not to disclose the specific location to where he went um but everything else like he pretty much freely talked about and in fact on the podcast he even mentioned um Toby I'm gonna butcher his last name but if you look into this guy like he's like the son of one of the major CIA uh guys that was out there and he goes to this guy's basement and he gets invited out there to this guy's basement he goes in his basement he's got Tesla coils set up in his basement and he's got a weird projector back and this is like you know early 2000s he's got this weird projector that's projecting in like hologram 3D and he's showing him videos on the internet of Thomas Bearden and this is you know pretty early internet still you know not not Advent but pretty early on showed him videos of Thomas Bearden talking about all this stuff too you know um so he and I had a very similar experience I think where and one one last thing I'll say is that he was uh I think he was in the military and submarines he was on submarines doing maintenance on them and this is where he learned about Magneto hydrodynamics which is the idea of using electricity to produce thrust and propulsion which the big benefit of this for you can imagine for a submarine is a you don't need to have a huge fuel source but also it's very quiet and if you're in a submarine you want to be as stealthy as possible in your submarine um and it wouldn't surprise me at all that we have advanced technology being used in submarines decades before what people think is possible out there so I know I don't think he was being quiet at all about his stuff I think he's the kind of guy that is trying to speak as freely as he can about it he had his own personal experiences uh related to his time out there and he was just telling people about that you know he reiterated what he said on Shan Ryan which he wants people to understand that there is technological capability out there like directed energy weapons that people have no idea is possible and I totally agree with them what do you think the purpose of the hydrant collider who what's that all about what are they actually doing there yeah so and what I've been told and you know take this with a grain of salt whenever I say if this something I've been told you should take it with a grain of salt because it's just you know a story and stuff that people told me but is that you know CERN with a hard large h on collider that they could be coming out with way more findings and discoveries than what they're claiming this thing's been going ongoing for what 15 years longer maybe I I don't remember when it first went online maybe 2010 and um you know if there really is an ether another dimension to our universe as I I personally think that there is and the Tesla talked about they should have been able to find that thing right away and I have a feeling that a lot of the information is being suppressed or you could think like you know intentionally sabotaged so they don't discover uh some of these findings because the big thing about all this is like the it's kind of like a cascading effect like the moment people start to realize this it's possible it all becomes super self-apparent you're like oh of course there is that's why we can do all this and oh that means that we can make direct energy weapons and then you start to think of those implications and eventually you get to the part where you're in Star Trek and you're warping space time um and so that's why I think they have to keep even basic things suppressed even basic findings so they found out about the higs field and you look at the higs field and you go you can almost argue the higs field is like you know describing The Ether and now in science they'll talk about stuff like oh virtual particles popping in and out of existence and space isn't empty well yeah they're talking about The Ether they're talking about there being an underlying Dimension to our reality uh it's exact same stuff that Tesla was talking about they's using different terminology for it yeah and by the way I I believe Ashton to what you're saying is I think you can go a lot of different directions with um CERN I mean you know with higs BOS and particle uh which by the way isn't it very interesting that he died on the same day that um yeah the solar eclipse and when they started that back up that was in extremely interesting um but nonetheless I I I think to your point yes absolutely there's there's a lot of things that they don't want you to know but also go back to there's a lot of things they're starting to find out about things they always try to disprove and you can say that spiritually you can say that biblically you can say that in a lot of various ways and you could also say that in argument to technology that we have or have been able to manipulate uh to our advantage of what they are finding but I just feel like you know without getting biblical or any of that stuff it just seems like science is always trying to disprove things that have been known forever and it seems like they just keep getting back to the same point um and it's like if you look at reality today everything is trying to be disproved everything is trying to be completely taken down and destructed um America is being destructed from within they want you to forget your past they want you to forget all of this stuff there's obviously a very um big initiative to that to your point I think CERN is something that is extremely concern in um see what I did there and uh and and also they want to build a much larger collider um which they have just I think I believe got a grant for which is gonna be way hugely bigger than than what's going on now um does anyone have any thoughts real quick I want to mention that the thing about like I think that's the biggest distraction that they you got to make it bigger keep making our collider bigger this is one of the posts that I got um community note I've been getting attacked by Community notes and one of them I posted this uh device it's basically just using magnets and uh either DC or alternating current and when you put this plasma or this electric charge between the alternating current you can actually see the interference Zone where you can actually see argon particles colliding with one another and I I think that there's you don't need to make a bigger and bigger collider you know I don't think that that's necessary I think that's the the distraction is that I think that we can produce cold fusion um which is you know the interaction of these uh atoms um at lower temperatures than the sun in confined spaces using superconducting magnets and actually the large hron collider uses superconducting magnets and maybe there's some extra benefit to having it travel further but to me it's more of a situation of I just want as many of those particles colliding at once and I want to see what happens there not necessarily shooting one particular particle and having them hit directly on some huge distance that they travel so I think that's something where like generally normally people are just going well bigger is better keep making it bigger and that will that'll do something when in reality it's more of like no we want to miniaturize it we want to get it to the point where I can have the sun and the palm of my hand and when you guys look at Super conductivity especially some of these meta materials that are are coming out you know you can imagine just looking at these floating rocks how you could confine uh atoms to the point of compress them to the point where you can get these exact type of effects cold fusion in my opinion is really just smashing the atoms together and with pressure and um that type of stuff which Salvador Pas has a patent for that as well hey Ashton let me ask you this question real quick um because there's people probably out there wondering what you're going to answer this um as much you had Dr Stephen Greer in your space before right or aace I was in a space and I was yeah I was on the panel with him I only asked him one question but he actually answered most of my other questions for me it's like you know I I'm I'm uh planning on doing a collaboration with some other big people I think a lot of people know out there but I want like fresh blood because I've been looking at a lot of people in the UFO community and I've been trying to get a beat on them in terms of what their views are what their opinions what I should think about you know what they're saying is true or not and I gleaned a lot from Step Greer in the December 15th or December 16th uh space that we had with him the only question I wanted to know after I listened to him speak was does he think that the quote unquote alien technology could be used as a doomsday weapon and his answer was yes absolutely and then the only thing I would even criticize him on I said well how do we how do we protect that and this is where everybody glosses over it listen if I wanted to clip something right now I let me let me ask you this question do you believe that Dr Steven Greer in C5 events where they summons UFOs or aliens or being do you think that's real I'm pretty skeptical let's say of those claims that's the part where I don't see ey eye on Dr stepen Greer I highly respect him because he was an emergency physician so that's why I call him doctor he's literally was a doctor um and maybe he's seen the information you know along with the technology I think he's dead on with the technology dead correct you know in terms of he's talked about overunity liter he's literally mentioned teleportation on Shan Ryan I'm not calling it teleportation anymore I'm calling it warping because that's what it is you're warping SpaceTime you're not dematerializing or rematerializing an object you're just warping SpaceTime um so if technologically lies I think he's on the point but when it comes to the C5 stuff I'm just I'm skeptical I'm open-minded to it I'm just skeptical to it and then like I said before is that and even I think Eric wein mentioned this is this technology the problem with it is it's a Pandora's Box this explains the suppression as well is the moment you start to understand the technology you get everything you start to understand that we can warp an object we can create a doomsday weapon we can get medical healing and this is why I thought it was so absurd when kim.com was pushing back on Stephen Greer but they had like a little like a little back and forth Tiff during that um and Kim's just going well why can't you just Why can't the aliens just give us the cure for cancer technology and put it on the blockchain you know and I think he's not even thinking about the problem correctly because the problem is that once any of the technology leaks out it all leaks out and this is my criticism of stepen Greer as well is that he says well we'll just keep the Doomsday we technology behind the veil that's not how it works the moment you tell somebody how free energy works in over Unity now everybody can make a doomsday weapon so that's to me the reason why the government h it by the way I I think that we should do you know Ash and I have talked about um with our podcast which this was a very impromptu space but uh we've talked about our on our podcast and in in in private um we should get Stephen Greer to do a C5 event to where we can record uh in all angles to prove or disprove uh what he says about C5 what do you think about that so here's the problem with that is that from what I've heard you know shouldn't take it it's not firsthand information but you know I think that a lot of you have to like pay him to show up and do your stuff you know I think everybody's got to eat but the big criticism the way he opens himself up to criticism is because he charges you know thousands of dollars for people to go out into Joshua Tree the desert and do the C5 stuff and if you want them to show up on your stream or space it wouldn't surprise me if even that space that he showed up to that I was on it was like kind of weirdly sponsored by this bcoin like you know Meme coin wouldn't surprise me if they paid him to show up on that I don't know that for a fact just wouldn't surprise me but that's where a lot of these UFO people where this becomes their job and the moment you do that you're trying to make money off of it and now you open yourself up to criticism where everybody says well you're just doing this for the money or what have you and uh I'm skeptical of that too like what I'll tell you guys is that I was invited to go to an event uh I won't say exactly when but an event where Lando and Danny shean was going to be there and uh coming up pretty soon and I declined it because it felt like it was going to be like a kind of fundraising event and it was going to be really awkward and um I'm skeptical a lot of these guys too because I don't think they see the real implications I think for the people out there that are younger um and I'm over 40 but the people that are younger I think that they look at the problem with a new set of eyes and they look at it like I want to live in a world where we have magical technology and then I think there's a lot of people that are experiencers and older people out there that for them disclosure is always meant tell me about the ET the Extraterrestrial and I don't really want to spend too much time with the disclosure people that are just trying to figure out the ET situation for me I want to spend time with the people that are trying to figure out disclose the technology how do we use that technology to improve the world the 670,000 homeless people we have on this on just the United States and the people are struggling dayto day just to pay rent and get by I agree with that ashon and and and and also I I do think though that there are people just as passionate figuring out the ET side of things because of spiritual and religious implications um and so to your point absolutely 100% that is a very worldly like what technology do do we have what are we hiding from the public but I do believe that there are a lot of people um that I think that the more I look into the UFO Community the more we've done this for seven years the more people are just freaking trying to find answers and and they're trying to find answers especially in spirituality and and you know I could be wrong we a lot of people could be wrong if if we're starting to maybe figure out that some of this stuff comes back to spirituality who knows it could be some scop we don't know but at the very least there are people that are just as dedicated and you know this ashon I mean you know there are people just as dedicated as you on the ET side etsp spiritual side of what these things could be um as you are with the the physical slash technology advanced Weaponry side right and so um um so it's interesting I mean and I know that your your goal was like Hey how do I how do I get from point A to point B to point C to point D with this um and and try to prove this to be true because I by the way I believe that what you're saying and and the technology and everything you're talking about is true um but I also believe the etsp spiritual side of things that are happening also could be true you know what I'm saying and yeah I mean don't get me wrong like I absolutely think that there can be uh you know aliens honestly I think it's a prerequisite if you think that aliens are visiting us from another star system or Galaxy that we have to be able to travel faster than the speed of light it's just it's otherwise it's just the distances are too far um but I keep my mind open to any of the phenomenon like I was just talking with Chris from alphabets earlier which shout out to him uh that was a really good uh podcast and we were talking about all the different possibilties of a phenomenon I think people should be listening to Tucker Carlson uh you know when he went on Joe Rogan he spoke about this idea that it could be spiritual um I think that he's kind of broaching this idea of extradimensional this idea of Angels and Demons certainly within the realm of possibility um also the idea of the ultraterrestrial hypothesis so AO came out and said there's no evidence of extraterrestrials but if you go look at the big graph of spectrum of what the alien phenomenon can be that's only like one column like there's a lot of other stuff that it can be it can still be you know spiritual in that respect it could be from our oceans it could be under I had to interrupt you for a second because know if I don't I'm gonna forget this point um you're you're talking about uh Arrow comes out and says there's no evidence of ETS of of of aliens does that does that help your case with MH370 advanced technology that you government has or does it hurt your case I'm glad you asked that because that's you know the funny part is that Arrow report came out in the UFO Community was losing their minds and just for everybody out there who's not familiar I have no extra love for the UFO Community I say we have a contentious relationship probably in general um but they were super upset everyone's angry the arrows lying I'm just sitting here going that doesn't hurt me at all like I'm just going all I care about is technology I don't care where technology came from if that came from aliens that came from interdimensional beings future humans whatever it might be doesn't change anything about the laws of our universe and whether or not we can have anti-gravitational technology or what it might be so no I I don't think it hurt at all and I think that arrow is actually now ghosting me because they're afraid I've got so much evidence that there's no way to Gaslight like they could have to just straight up lie and whoever lies is going to put themselves in legal liability because the amount of evidence that those MH370 videos are real is overwhelming and it means that we've got gravity manipulation and SpaceTime manipulation the difference being that one of them is just counteracting the force of gravity um I think that the eem drive as they call it which uses like microwaves bouncing out through like a cone that produces what we would consider Star Trek impulse drive and that can be a form of anti-gravity I think that's real but I think just straight up bending spending SpaceTime with gravity manipulation is also real which is warp drive and then I also think this leads to Cold Fusion which is producing excess energy like the sun and also just straight up free energy which is creating like a Perpetual emotion machine using magnets or other properties that are you know not moving so for me none of that impacts me at all and I think that that's what they're afraid of they're not afraid of like if you think about it you know you go well aliens might be real is government going to hide that maybe but who cares you know we got weird octopuses and squids that you might as well just call aliens the bigger thing the government's afraid of is losing control over the people and the way they lose control over the people is decentralization of power which is what free energy pretty much tells you is possible yeah but do but do you believe scop is more um you know and I want to get back to this point for a second do you believe the S up is more when arrow and the government comes out and says there's no possibility of aliens does that make it more like if you wanted to hide technology right would you not come out and try to blame aliens versus not does that make sense oh yeah yeah so if they and there's people out there I got a lot of people my followers especially that are like aliens are not real and they're going to Blue Beam us with an alien invasion I swear guys you got me on the record right now if they come out and try to claim some alien invasion [ __ ] I'm going to be the first person calling uh you know calling them out on that I absolutely don't think we're going to have some weird alien invasion crap happen that's definitely I could see that scop happening where they try to claim that yeah we've got a band together against the aliens and you've got to fall in line with the WF One World governments or whatever [ __ ] that might be nah man n we've what I've discovered from digging back into the history of this technology like it first started with the videos and you know the plane and then finding out we have this technology trying to determine whether it's aliens or if it's us determin that we can have had this technology ourselves to the point of digging back to the history of it and realizing this goes back to the 40s another thing that Tucker Carlson mentioned that people should be listening to is that he floated the idea that I've never heard anyone float before that even Atomic nuclear bombs could be reverse engineered technology now where that reverse engineering comes from I think that's the debate is did we dig up some archaeological dig where we found something did we figure it out ourselves from the Manhattan Project and we also figured out kind of the opposite of nuclear which is Fusion which is you know unification of the forces or did something crash here and we figure it out you know well I I don't really know but I think that's a really interesting concept because if you were to ask people in the 30s like hey we can blow up a whole city they would say that's fake they would say that's fake the same way people are saying that warping in a plane is fake right now and that's the kind of thing that I think a interesting thought is that we forget that until we see it firsthand it's really hard to believe something is possible I agree with that all right um you want to hear from someone that actually seen them firsthand three times and has been studying it for about 20 years absolutely go ahead all right um all right the first time that's probably about 12 13 I'm about to be 32 now sorry if I sound like crap I had a cold right now but uh I was out ice skating at my grandparents house and like me and my cousin he was facing the house I was facing the Christmas tree fun and he was I like looked up and there's this giant white orb up in the sky it's like a bluish whitish orb and by the time I could say what the f is that it like really warped like just out of I can see it it's like War like pretty much what you see in the movies it's War coron was gone and then I seen the same exact thing with him we watched it for about a half hour it was probably within a year or two difference or after that um we were like looking I we lived in the country so we were just like looking up the stars and stuff we seen like shooting stars satellites all that and then uh we seen two they look like stars but they weren't stars and they're like the same orbs i' seen but they're the size of stars up in the Stars we watched them for like a half hour what would do would like zigzag around the star and the other one would follow it do the same exact thing like far as I could see like left to right out in the country we could see them for a half hour so they traveled probably billions of miles in a half hour I'd say then this third one them ones I think they're like I don't know some kind of light energy Spirit or something like that and the third one we seen me and four people seen this one we're driving down the highway in Michigan and uh there's this giant triangle with like I want to say nine lights around it and uh I was like Hey when did we get this giant street light over here then uh like I don't know like they're like that don't look like a street light like dude that's a giant UFO this like something off of like Halo or something like that and we uh had to turn back we turned back around see if we could see it it was gone then we had to turn back around again because it was the highway and we're going back that way when we went back the third time there was a helicopter there with the spotlight on so it was on the radar at the local airport oh I can do live captions no that's crazy I mean there's a lot of people that have had experiences right I mean and and even Ashen to your point I mean um to the point of kind of what we're talking about is there's a lot of people that have had those experiences and not just those experiences there are people that have claimed uh definitively that they have been abducted by beans or craft of some sort but then you even go back to like remote viewing and governmental programs to where they specifically talk about Advanced programs to where they try to investigate uh anomalies or scenarios to where people have either been abducted think about what tuger cson talked about where there were a 100 plus uh potential I guess service members that were injured or died from um close interaction with these crafts now to that point to Ashton's Point obviously that could absolutely be advanced technology of why they were close to craft and died or had some type of traumatic brain injury why would you have a governmental um anything near um near these service members but then also even the fighter pilots that are they've literally had to move entire squadrons out of certain training areas because of uh the amount of um I guess activity that was in an area of uaps or things that did not know what it was How likely would it be that we have programs that are completely opposite of our military that our military doesn't even know about in training scenarios as yeah you know and that's the part where I it kind of leads into Havana syndrome like could these UFOs be having negative effects on people I absolutely think they could when you look at some of these electrogravitic effects electromagnetic effects you could you can easily imagine how that might mess with somebody's brain um I would not stand underneath a UFO uh if I saw one floating around I would avoid it for sure um and I you know I guys I've been posting about um not negatively but I've been posting about Gary Nolan who I think is on the Forefront of some of the Havana syndrome research out there looking at people's uh you know CT scans of people's brains that were supposedly affected and there are people out there claiming that like they it's actually physically changed the chemical makeup or the the structure of people's minds which is scary stuff and I just want to say that I have the UT most respect for Gary Nolan he's a Stanford uh PhD and Professor um so I think that's something that people should definitely look into and then the other side too of it is the nukes you know a lot of people ask about you know maybe the UFOs are some kind kind of connection to the nukes I think Robert Salah was one of the people who was uh a serviceman on one of the nuke sites where supposedly the UFOs were shutting down the nukes which definitely begs the question on if there's some kind of connection between just not only UFOs and nukes but you know UFO or nukes give off I think a a strong electromagnetic pulse when they go off if I'm wrong on that feel free to fact check me but I I think that a lot of this has to do with electromagnetic properties so it wouldn't surprise me at all if there's a direct connection there oh and one last thought before I forget uh and I want to ask you guys about cloning in a minute after this as well but people wonder how UFOs could get knocked out of the sky at this point I'm very confident in saying that radar can just knock UFOs out of the sky because it uses the same way they fly is essentially a form of of radar phase conjugation and if you just disrupt that it's it's like taking the steering wheel and just crashing them into a tree so even though technology can seem extremely Advanced it does not make ship or a craft Invincible um everything has its vulnerability just like how Superman is vulnerable to Kryptonite it's that UFOs that might fly around using electromagnetic effects become very vulnerable just to straight up radar beams we shoot a scaler Beam at it might just fall out of the sky yeah and Ashton by the way to to your point um I've been in aviation for a long time I don't I don't ever talk about the capacity of what I am in in aviation because of our podcast and what we talk about but regardless of the fact um yeah absolutely I mean there are things that can disrupt either GPS or um or or all types of instruments and aircrafts on a on a regular basis and if you think about even the UFO um you know hypothesis as far as how these things might move electromagnetically you can just probably grasp that if you can disrupt the magnetic field or or the actual frequency if you if if if you even think of like radio frequency waves potentially they're going through that um phase um if you can disrupt that then you could technically knock that physical manifestation even if they are From Another Dimension um you can knock them out and bring them down to the ground I know that sounds crazy but it is a it is all about almost like a um electromagnetic SL radio frequency Warfare and um and I think we have an ability to do that same way that you know they say these things are very interested in nuclear weapons and our nuclear facilities um why are they interested in that because you know if you understand what you know nuclear does in radiation well you know that disrupts a lot of electronics and especially in EMP type weapons how much of these nuclear facilities I actually have EMP weapons intact on these nuclear weapons a lot of these nuclear weapons in Modern Day actually have an EMP type Weaponry on almost all nuclear weapons uh I read an article the other day most of these things can completely disrupt electromagnetic pulses um in which if we think anything about health maybe these things operate then you have to think exactly what you're just saying asht um magnetic frequencies magnetic pulses magnetic energy um that's where potentially they operate and if you have a system to disrupt that maybe that explains some of the disruption or crashes of these Craft um side with the um you want to talk real quick one more thing then we can jump to some questions on there because Eric Hecker also uh one of the things is that you know might be dealing with warfare that's going on um that is electromagnetic in uh its properties you know when we talk about mapping the ionosphere or mapping the magnetosphere you could imagine that not only are we just doing that to see what's going on to the Earth but we're doing that to see what our enemies are doing to manipulate those things if we have electromagnetic weapons that we can use and Eric Hecker mentioned that a lot of his people that he was out there in Antarctica with experienced havan like syndromes havan syndrome like syndrome uh symptoms and one of them even asked to be evacuated I found the news article and I posted it in the middle of our conversation I was having with him like she was named and everything out there so you can imagine just being near those kinds of uh that kind of Hardware that's doing that have detrimental effects yeah frequencies I mean I mean uh for people that don't know what Schuman resonance is the Schuman resonance which is basically the Earth's heartbeat they call it um is a frequency I think it's what 7.83 hertz I could be wrong about that but that's essentially the Earth's heartbeat that is the frequency the uh radio the RF frequency of the earth um and and if you look at the human resonance you also then you start looking at what is the frequency that our hearts beat our brain waves connect it's the same frequency which is very weird and so if you think about people and by the way the qinon shaman uh what they call him the shaman um you know he he's very like Earth grounding shamanist uh approaches on on a lot of things but regardless there's a lot of people that believe if you ground yourself with the Earth you ground yourself with yourself um because you literally have that same frequency that kind of connects you to reality in a lot of ways um and frequency is everything I I really think it's everything and I also think that that you know just like they control social media control Mass formation psychosis control psych uh psychology and and what you believe and what you think and and all those things they can also control frequency and I think that's what they're using now for Weaponry um go ahead with a side with Constitution what's up n that is exactly what I was going to talk about Schuman the uh Schuman residence resonance it is 7.83 exactly it's what your heartbeat is at it's what your your mind is at it's what the Earth is at and they are absolutely [ __ ] with us with that they have the scaler waves yes they can uh operate different frequencies to screw up that resonance and at a c certain scale of resonance that they can it can help you but if they increase it it can hurt you it can hurt you badly um the other thing I wanted to mention is that we actually do live approximately 50 miles of the crow files F flies from Area 51 and my husband is very interested in tracking what happens not only down at the border and where these flights go from there but we track a lot of stuff that goes on at Area 51 we see a lot of weird stuff going on there and that goes around at least 50 to 75 miles in a circular area around Area 51 and we know they have something that they're flying I don't know if it's us or something else coming out of Area 51 that is not anything like we've ever seen them fly ever it's Dave what would you call that thing that you tracking the other night it was something that was anti-gravity wasn't it definitely something that was anti-gravity was not like any kind ofces yeah vast dis distances and a split second I mean it was it was unlike anything that we've ever tracked before coming out of that area and it wasn't wasn't a drone it wasn't a a ship it wasn't anything like that it wasn't anything like they've tracked of those little whatever they call those little Tic Tacs it wasn't like that it wasn't like anything that I've ever seen on any of the UFO videos it wasn't anything like that it was so fast it was going if I don't even know how to explain the the perverse course it took it was just it was like nothing we've ever seen and it's the first time we've seen anything coming out of uh Area 51 that was like that we've seen very strange stuff but this was really odd and the other thing that I was going to mention I don't know if any of you were in that space where I think his first name was Christopher melan the billionaire oh yeah yeah we know who he is for sure okay I'm old I'm not a conservative I know it sounds like I am with M side with the Constitution I'm an oldtime classic liberal the rest of these guys that call themselves liberals they're not they're leftist Progressive posers they are not liberals I'm telling you right now they not don't have no tolerance they don't believe in free speech they don't believe in listening to other people's opinions what they're doing to Trump is Banana Republic stuff whether you like them or not and believe me I'm highly suspicious of them I got a problem with the zionists I know what they've done to in 19 67 they went after the USS Liberty and they killed 47 of our guys on that ship and 100 plus were seriously injured and I believe it was mamera that they got a message out but when they the pilot on the um planes were almost there he called them back our government and the Israeli government covered that thing up and that's not the only time this kind of stuff has happened so believe me I've been researching for a very very long time I know what's been going on in our government and what's going on now is absolute treason absolute treason so I'm you'll have to get forgive me right now but what I see going on has really got me very upset I'm very very upset with what I see going on because and with the Constitution let me ask you real quick we I think all agree one 100% with what you're saying um 100% and we've heard so many people that were once liberals that are saying this is not liberalism right and um but nonetheless how did how did you defer from what you guys tracked out of what you're seeing based on all the videos you see what was the difference like did you see a light in the sky no we were using a a plane tracking software okay okay and we were seeing the flight path from this plan tracking software we want we we track the flights out of Las Vegas that take the um employees over to Area 51 and back we track all the they have all they have all kinds of weird stuff that happen and you'll have times where something happens where it's almost like something escapes or something happens that they're not prepared for and they go on a uh almost like a a search mechanism where they've got drones out and they've got Blackhawks out and they're looking it's like they're searching for something and it's very odd because we it come the these lights will come over the area of I live in a place called prump I don't know if you're familiar with the old time Coast to Coast um radio program they now do it out of bir bank with um what's the guy that does it out of Burbank who this lady's great oh George Nory it used to be Art Bell art was the Coast to Coast AM that did all the B things that bump in the night at 12 midnight um I don't know if you guys remember that but and I used to listen to Bill Cooper who didn't trust Al Jones and what was the ride a pale horse or got the book Behold a Pale Horse I don't know if you guys and if you are old enough to remember any of that stuff but I've been researching for a very very long time okay let's Okay Ashton you you know what I'm talking about okay yeah behold the pair horse yeah I think that's that's a book that I've been recommended to read several times but I would read it there's a guy on X that actually has it his uh handle is it's got to be K2 I think it is that he's got the full um Bill Cooper reading it doing a readout of that book but anyway I have I don't know why I am but I'm both left brain right brain and I was born at Fort wuka Arizona the actual fort my dad was a an intelligence instructor for the Army and when the Navy opened it up on February 1st 1951 my father was stationed there with the Army February 8th 1951 and I was born there August 12th 1952 my dad never told me what he what he did there but for I've been learning skills on how to access my conscious and I was able to pull out that he was an instructor there and I don't know but I've been able to access stuff in my subconscious about things that went on there I know that sounds really weird and I know what I'm going to say next is going to sound even weirder but they're doing something to me and my husband we're smart we're not Mena smart or although they've really lowered their their expectations on intelligence scores but we're pretty smart people we used to follow um Tom beard do you know who he is he's dead now she just dropped Tom Bearden guys oh yes I know Thomas Bearden Lieutenant Colonel yes lieutenant colonel in the Army that's the guy we used to follow his stuff all the time now I can understand the theory but I can't do the math proofs that well I'm not that strong in the um the math analysis and I can do the the geometry and the that kind of stuff but I don't have enough of the math analysis and that um so I get the theory and I can tell you right now that I have never agreed with this Big Bang Theory never ever ever I don't think it's right at all I'm sorry I don't I think they've thrown in the string theory I think is [ __ ] they've thrown in crap to throw us off Smart path on our physics don't ask me why I can't explain it to you mathematically but Theory wise it makes no sense but I think they're doing something they're so throwing something our way at my house in particular that sounds really conspiracy theorist and we are conspiracy theorists we are but there's something going on that we're getting following we're having problems with our ears we're getting these I know it sounds weird I probably shouldn't even go any further but I think they're attacking us with some kind of scaler wave or something and I just found a report on how they I know they continued on MK Ultra and there were some other projects that were in line with that and I just found something on what they can continued on with and frankly Reagan was part of this I know the conservatives don't like to hear that but that's a fact I hate to tell you but that's a fact you don't let all the people out and set them back on the streets there were a lot of people that I ran into back then that should have still been in those asylums I'm sorry but that's what part of the problem with these homeless people out there they should be in asylums okay that's all I have to say um but I just wanted to add that to your your conversation so oh thank you very much uh people in my chat uh first of all they called you talking about scaler stuff which was awesome Thomas beard in reference awesome people want to know if you have a Blog uh I think I got I don't oh that's too bad like 50 people in my chat said that you're uh based apparently so you got some good praise here ma thank you I'm so glad I was afraid to talk because a lot of the conserv is they get I started identifying myself as a liberal because I just got tired of stop denigrating liberals there's a lot of them out there that you could catch if you'd stop prejudging them I don't prejudge anybody I GOP to try to get rid of the rhinos and the neocons I don't believe in war unless they're attacking us is this lady why would you you're you're missing so many people that you could draw in if you stop using that word liberal to denigrate everybody don't you remember Brendan Striker yes total died in the wol Progressive somebody showed him what they were doing to Trump's speeches and that's how they got him in now he's with the walkway campaign you're losing so many people by doing that stop doing that it drives me nuts that's excellent Oh no you're good that's an excellent point and it's to hear somebody who's not necessarily identifying as a conservative but does share a lot of like-minded ideas so thank you for that I definitely don't think you're alone in that whatever and I do think it's important that we try to reach those people also so absolutely there's lot yeah and Shane I know you've been uh waiting for a little bit so we'll get to you and then American CI you can go ahead and go oh no thank you so much for sharing truly we appreciate it oh it's no worries at all it actually I was going to say afterwards she wow that was awesome you guys should have her on the show but no I was just going to say when you were talking about the military knowing about these things um so I had my own experience uh back when I was about 19 years old and I haven't really told many people about it uh you know everyone thinks you're nuts but I you know I I figured I might as well say something about Chad and Sher you know this place very well h Hilton Head Island um I was there for a vacation I was there for a week before this happened so there's no nothing no military anything happening on the beach um and I I I'm an avid fisherman so I'd gone out uh everyone was in the uh everyone was in the hotel uh you know like drinking at the bar and stuff like that and I know it's like 11 o'clock at night and I just wanted to go see if I can catch something so I'm out Shor fishing and then all sudden everything got quiet and you know I'm like why I'm not hearing w I'm not hearing anything and I look above me and there's just this black triangle that's like probably 100 feet above my head and like this is not a dream this isn't you know this is like this actually happened to me and and the crazy thing is too is I went inside after because I had ran inside I didn't say anything to anybody because I was just like in such shock I went in and I went to the bar with my X but I went I was out there and I was fishing and it all went silent and I looked above me and it was like this it it was blacker than the sky and there was no noise whatsoever and then lights on the sides turned on so it was a triangle and I just dropped my pole and I was St I lost my pole and they actually asked me like what happened to your pole and I was like oh I uh I don't know I I it got pulled in and I I just started running and I looked above me and it was F ing me up and then I looked above me again the bar was like at the back of the hotel so it was like a not a hotel but like a Whatchamacallit like a a it was like a nice hotel or whatever but it had a bar a resort Shane because you're in Hilton had we go to hilet all the time that's a resort bro you're yeah a resort yeah exactly so sorry yeah ex I'm trying to think of the the name for it I'm just being stupid um and yeah no I I look back up in the air again and it's gone but so it's gone but I'm still running I run to the back and my my ex is there and she's I'm like Breathing heavily and she's like what's wrong I'm like nothing nothing nothing can I get a margarita but like still like that will like sit with me for the rest of my life the next day though so this is the moral of the story the next day you know I'm not thinking about it anymore really because like I don't know something like that happens and you know you kind of like put it out of your mind but me and my ex are laying on the beach and you know everything's normal and and we got out there about 9:00 in the morning uh about 10:00 in the morning two Apaches go down the beach back and forth about 10 times there was no military whatsoever before that and I'm like to my ex like she's like wow those are like military I was like yeah those are [ __ ] Apaches I was like I've never even seen one of those fly through the sky before but yeah I just figured I'd add that just because that you know seems pretty you know interesting wonder if we by way before we get to anyone else I I got to say we go to Hilton Head all the time and I think you're one of our listeners but yeah we go to Hilton Head all the time um and yeah I've never seen an Apache of hen head ever um I gotta say you might see by the way you don't even see fighter jets they they do have um Marine Corp station bufort there which is they do have f-18s they do not have Apaches though that's an army thing but um but that's interesting you saw that and there has been weird stuff happened at Hilton had while we're there long story whatever but very interesting story holy crap and and I think I want to say this before we get to someone else I think because American is wanting to speak um American citizen um what I will say is like I I think that so many experiences or so many things that we that we hear or start to realize or or we have an Awakening I think that's why even the people that are here right now is why you guys are here I think that our listeners that we have all around the world those people that listen to us is because they have these experiences they have these Awakenings to where they're like holy [ __ ] what is going on let me go try to find answers um and and that's why it's always tough sometimes for us to dude there there are times we do podcast we we're like holy [ __ ] how do we how do we get the best possible message for this topic because people are so desperate for answers and we have to try to we have to try to find some way to like portray what we're really wanting to say because we know that Shane and people like uh side with the Constitution and all these people are out there listening and it's like do you understand how big of a freaking yeah I don't know what is it a a duty that is to to try to do that and and I know passion feels the same way as far as m370 and and what he's trying to betray to people and that is so tough but also it is so uniting because we are all here um there's very few of us here tonight but what I'm saying is there are there are so many people out there that are desperately trying to find the truth and we are on the front lines guys I whether you realize it or not I mean yeah we're not out battling like the Civil War or 1776 but we are in a different way we are for the information war and I think the front lines of the war today is information as though when I often hear people say what can we do how can we do this I don't give a [ __ ] about what happens in the end result I just care about what you know and what you understand and what you believe and and and as long as you at least believe the truth as long as you at least see past the BS that's all we want thank you wiang Wang appreciate I thank you too by the way um like seriously because like this podcast like after seeing that and then like like after that I was kind of like questioning everything you know then also after Co especially but like um I think I started following you in like 2019 um and I became a truck I'm a trucker and so obviously I listen to you guys the moment the Pod the podcast comes out I start listening to you but like uh I mean like to be able to listen to like you know you guys and like or people that come on and like that and like to be able to hear you know all that and like you know to hear that you know I'm not you know I went out there and I saw that but like I don't tell anybody about about it I've I think I've told like two people because it's like you know you tell people and and it's like's Tupa what are they gonna say like I'd rather just keep it inside but like you know here like people understand but like to be able to listen to your podcast you know it makes a big difference I just wanted to let you know that you're bring people up holy crap that that means I just wanted to Echo for sure what Chad said and like thank you for sharing and this is definitely like a judgment free zone so anybody else that has anything that they want to bring up like this is definitely the place to talk about it this is a place that we can all get together and like share these stories and a lot of people I'm sure are on the same page and Shane you definitely are not the only person that's had experiences like that but to your point I think a lot of people just don't talk about it because I can't bring people up taboo and in a lot of circles you know you get labeled a conspiracy theorist or you know worse so um worse up Tu but uh the house willing to actually talk about that and if there's anybody else that has anything that they want to discuss um definitely a request to speak and we will add you um as a speaker and then if you are ready to say something just throw a hand up but Sam Sam Sam before you before you go on um we're gonna get to probably American Next or whatever um American Michael Tupac Cabra I see you in here um we have you I want to ask you a specific question as far as UFO Community after we get to American because American a while how do we get sounds good yeah oh he is up somehow oh yeah I just wanted to chime in on what Ashton was saying about the Havana syndrome I don't remember if I heard it on your guys's podcast or a different one I listen to him about 12 hours day wild network uh one of them I heard though that the Ice Cube neutrino research facility um there was you could find like the specs for it and stuff online and they found it and it actually emits and transmits frequency and that could have something to do with the Havana syndrome there I was thinking but and then just chime in on what Shane was talking about that triangle I'm pretty sure that's the same one I seen it had to been at least the size of a football stadium I'd say it was hard to tell because it was dark when we were driving but that's pretty much all I had thank you Wang Wang yeah real quick so another crazy thing and I don't think it's after you learn about scaler physics which uh scaler granny in here I hope that's not doesn't make you feel bad calling you that that's what everybody wants to call you now I was talking about scaler physics and Thomas beard and when you learn about phase conjugation you begin to learn that radar is not simply passive receiving and listening detection but that it can be used to potentially transmit energy through scalar potentials out there um and the they actually planning on taking that ice cube nutrino detector which has 5,160 Doms in it that each have 2,000 volts and they're planning to making it 10 times bigger what the what the hell you know what Eric and I were talking about I was like I want I can't wait to hear what explanation they give for the forward public facing explanation why they need to make this thing 10 times bigger than it is now like what [ __ ] are they going to come up with like oh we've got a the tech neutrinos from the earliest form of the a big bang or some nonsense it's like come on man there's gota be something else going on with this thing by the way uh Ashton to to Ashton's Point Ash and Tupa you can probably agree or not agree I don't know but um Ashton is so smart and he is he's researched so much [ __ ] I I just want I just want to point out real quick can you guys still hear me hopefully because I'm yeah we can hear you we're good yep so a neutrino detector I want you guys to understand I don't know is what even a Cube neutrino detector is but in in particular a nutrino detector um a nutrino detector is a physics apparatus which is designed to study neutrinos because neutrinos only weakly interact with other particles of matter neutrino detectors must be very large to detect significant number neutros and by the way they believe that neutrinos when you hear of Ice Cube nutrino Det detector what are they doing in Antarctica what what does that even matter if you think about CERN CERN is a particle collider but they're also trying to figure out the uh the building blocks or at least the be able to harness antimatter right antimatter is everything that is opposite of what we see it's very hostile very chaotic but neutrinos and the and and then in particular neutrino detectors um they believe neutrinos interact possibly with antimatter and so it's almost like neutrino detectors are are are kind of the in between potentially of matter and antimatter and so when you think about a ice cube nutrino detector what are they trying to detect they're trying to detect the in between of everything we see which is matter and everything we have no idea about which we don't see which we do interact with which is antimatter and also maybe even physically and even spiritually emotionally affect us right so I know that sounds freaking nuts right um yeah it does either way I just want to try to explain what a nutrino detector even is and what is neutrinos neutrinos potentially interact with matter and antimatter but it may be the in between particle or semi- particle of uh of matter and anti- um Michael go ahead and then Tu coer we'll get to you yeah I just want to bring up a couple of things um one thing that Sherry mentioned about social media um about one side taking the able to get the platforms and other side's um getting censored well as for me is I work for as a probation par officer for the state of Arkansas right so we catch so many people with weapons and drugs all over social media all the time so I just want to say because of that I agree with Sherry on that it's like that's what they're trying to promote you know saying it's okay but when someone try to speak their mind they get um blocked from like Facebook or whatever on that so I just want to say I agree with her on that um and that's about all I have to say on that on everything Michael by the way we appreciate you as a listener man we see you all the time on our Telegram and all that um we appreciate you very much and Shane you too I know we I know we know Shane um tabra uh we gotta get to you because we have to ask you sure you being in the UFO Community what do you feel like is another now you obviously showing up late to the conversation we're talking about crazy stuff but we were recently talking about the UFO Community versus interesting um let's just say UFO Community versus uh kind of like Joe Rogan versus Tucker to where you have Joe Rog going against Tucker in some ways saying that a lot of what we're probably seeing is advaned Tech right it is government technology reverse engineered maybe at the at the latter part so you have Ashton which is saying the mry 70 was potentially kidnapped uh or teleported based on US government technology or other technology and then you have you which are obviously involved in the UFO community um with Sky far new and so on um what what what do you feel like like where is the Divide what do you believe and and and and is there a correlation with both good question I mean that's a big that's a big question I think um with Ashton the The Divide really comes between like almost a religiosity and um more of a scientific mind um as much as people would love to exclaim that ufology is full of scientific people and we're looking for the science um if you really listen not even like dig deeper or lift up the rug if you just listen you'll find that a majority of us ufologists are very much um Faith less and looking to the subject for some type of um bigger than than the self kind of belief system which is fine I mean that people do that right what did uh Russell bran say we are species who worships you know it's a matter of where do you what where and what you want to worship and um the the truth and the science of it all is sometimes left to the Wayside you know and with Ashton he's gone for like The Logical provable reliable uh facts that you can back up and really have a conversation about and a lot of people took offense to that a lot of people in the community were very threatened by that because you know in the same way I think a lot of atheists look back on um you know like let's say the Dark Ages right they they think oh you know religion was the devil it was holding everything back you know and the idea of like um you know getting through it getting some new information out uh it was viewed out viewed as heresy it really was it was heresy to to ask strong questions and to bring real answers and so yeah I think right now what we're seeing is a clash between an Old Guard who got away with um dictating what the world was uh in terms of paranormal and and fringe science right Advanced science they got away with dictating that through their books and through their Book Sales now with media as immediate as it is the that's gone and people who worked on that model or who lived off of that model they're having a hard time you know and so I think one of the things they resort to is slander and so you see a lot of the Old Guard I'm not calling any names you just see a lot of them gatekeeping and Ashton found himself uh at the front of that gate you know you you know what funny Tupa is that there are a couple different things you said number one you can't be um you can't be atheist and be a Christian right true to true but you can be Pro um or not pro but I guess let just say you you cannot also be saying that we have such advanced technology that some of this UFO stuff is possible and then you could also say that UFOs are also possible but to contrary you can't be atheist and a Christian or believe both could possibly exist does that make sense I know it sounds crazy but well yeah I believe with that that statement 100% you can't be an atheist and a Christian you know I believe I think that that's absolutely correct but yeah but you can be Ashton and you can be Jeremy Corbell time yeah if I can jump in on that I mean you know my opinion is is kind of you know I think Tupa hit the nail in the head he's very introspective guy I appreciate tup a lot this is why I've always gravitated towards him um is that yeah there's a lot of people that are gatekeeping information in the UFO community and if somebody comes in and they say nah you guys are all wrong this is what really matters like that's threatens a lot of people's perspectives of things and I came in and I went you know what aliens could exist but I don't really care and that right alone just divides the community in half and then I said you know what I care about is the technology side of this and you know if there are aliens visiting us you got to explain how they're visiting us and hey look this is how it happens and and dug into that so I personally feel like I found myself a little niche here but to give I don't want to like put down all these people who are these UFO celebrities and Community type people because I think from their perspective they look at me and what I propose is so far beyond the Paradigm that they Wonder am I disinformation and I think it just becomes kind of a you know that's a that's a skeptical type of opinion that you can have you can say well this guy's spreading information it's so contrary to what we've been pushing out there that he is trying to distract us he's trying to derail us but the thing that throws that out the window is that nothing's been going on nothing was going on at the time that I've been looking at this there's been no major developments the last thing was this UAP hearings that we had last summer that was before I even started coming out of the scene with any of this one real quick one last thing I want to say is like you see that my opinion like with this Jeremy or Jason Sans thing that came up is that a lot of people are just looking for someone to validate their experiences to comes out that they can you know Elevate to this this higher level and go this is my hero this is my Champion out there and I've come on and said no I'm not going to do that I'm just going to show you that I'm gonna make you come to terms with it for yourself Ashton how do you compare yourself to uh listen next topic Mick West um well actually let's do it I have a better idea for topic do you tell me if you agree or not but I kind of want to talk a little bit about cloning I haven't really ever talked about that very much but and I will present it like this so you know I've lived through the bush era Administration and in the Bush Administration in the early 2000s they outlawed cloning and I thought that was very weird because we were entering an era in the late n 1990s where it felt like anything was going to be possible and people start cloning sheep and you start wondering can we clone people and what would happen if we clone a person you know especially with respect to the idea of like there's a lot of these studies done about identical twins and things like that and does make you wonder especially now with the age of crisper where crisper is like we can do genetic editing of people and where Putin is literally talking to Tucker Carlson a month ago two months ago and saying that we can create super soldiers do you think that we can actually clone people and if so when is my Scaro clone going to come I've been waiting for a very long time Ashton Absol freaking lutely listen that that's a weird thing because it goes back to a little bit of both like that exactly what you're asking goes back to can we have Advan advanced technology but can you have that much advanced technology without the spiritual realm the UFO the that whole entire um I don't know tuba what tuba what do you think briefly buing back to what I was saying Mick West and and I know what you're saying Ashton with cloning but we can incorporate this um is Ashton to the UFO Community Mick West in some ways just on the other side I mean Mick West is everything debunking UFOs like it it everything that he posts is balloons doesn't make a [ __ ] what it is like if you see an actual craft and and you have a highdef picture going under the ocean he will say it's a balloon I think definitely apples to oranges you know these are two different animals uh M West well Mick West is almost pathologically skeptical right and I think he looks down on the UFO community and the anyone who believes anything that's not Ashton does not I have not caught this from you at all Ashton that you look down on the community or people who believe and stuff in fact you know you catch Flack for making bold claims I think you got a lot of respect for people who make bold claims and can at least back them up or at least go toe-to-toe with them um but you're not out here trying to check people and call them out on their beliefs uh if anything you check them and call them out on their behavior uh as it pertains to like their bias and their uh the way that some people gloat and have people have tried there people have tried to celebrate Ashton's downfall and every time I think it really does come back to bite him in the ass dude it's one of the funniest things to see is everyone celebrating right um there's something about you Ash I think people think they can take you down very quickly and then it just doesn't happen and then they start to now they play victim instantly like it's it goes from let me I got this easy this easy [ __ ] right here then you you you fight back and then you win they're like oh this guy's a [ __ ] Russian op and I'm like dude I'm hearing I hear the craziest cope from people who go toe-to-toe and just fail because uh I think they realize um in the process you're not pushing something that you made up in your mind you know you actually are one of the few people in the community who's like hey look at this I've looked at this and then um you know I think that the the microcosm here is the videos right so many times they were debunked and every time you're like no no and at first it sounds like stubbornness right and a lot of people think oh this guy's a [ __ ] mule he's never gonna budge on this no matter what we show him but like let's take the um the contrail for example right Mick West posts a contrail video is like this is the only video you need to see and they're more videos but this is the only one you need to see the contrails aren't moving because of some V effect dude there's no way you know and then sure enough I know it got a lot of people to be okay that's in the coffin for me because this guy came through sh get spicy and confident about his debunk um but yeah the risky move is always believing the risky move is always like taking the risk and and and sticking your neck out there and in that sense I I want I want to say this real quick um to your point what you're saying is that Ashton is desperately trying to speak the truth but they have done everything they can to destroy him um what does that mean I mean is is it to your point is it that Ashton is a good speaker or is it that they can't you know there was something that the Tucker Carlson actually no sorry it was Graham Hancock episode of Joe Rogan where they said that if you have to continue to debunk that's a problem right I mean if if you have to continue to debunk and and and TBA do you believe that m370 according to Ashton happened let me ask you that and then number two think about this did you see the Chinese government there they said there were three floating objects although there is a variation of people that say was that in the ocean that the Chinese government said their satellites picked up three orbs um or was that meaning potentially it was in the air okay could that be could that be a defining moment in in my370 investigation I am new that's the first I've heard of this Chinese report and if so yeah it could be a huge thing um a huge issue now like um my interest in MH370 isn't because the videos are so compelling uh videos can always be faked although as every day passes and every time I watch the video I'm you know I'm I'm so for those who know my background's in video uh I was actually in film school learning all of the top-of-the-line techniques for visual compositing and VFX uh around 2012 so like two two years before this video came out so I feel very confident that I know what was possible and how to achieve certain things uh back in the day especially from your home all right specifically from your home uh which is what the claim is that this video is hoaxed by some Rando who has yet to come by and collect any credit or money um my interest in the case lies solely in the reaction to Ashton's persistence and it is it is an immune system response and the only thing I can attribute that to is the secrecy uh system that has kept UFOs and and advanced technology out of our view for so long that's my conclusion thanks T and real quick if I could respond and then also I think we've got Ian Carol in here as well if we could bring him up that'd be awesome because I've been wanting to talk to him for a long time um but you know with respect to the debunking and stuff the difference between someone like Mick West as me is like when you see Mick West talk on the debunking side like you said it's it's pathological you know he's the kind of guy that he comes out there and he says this is what it is I know that it's this but my Approach isn't like that my Approach is here's what the evidence shows I'm going to show you the evidence and then I'm going to give you my opinion on it and you know this is why like I've a lot watched a lot of what Ian Carroll's done with respect to conspiracy stuff as well out there and that's why some of his stuff so compell as well is he shows you the evidence straight up and he gives you his opinion as well about it and that resonates with people because you know what it's authentic it's somebody who's going out there and they're not trying to tell you what to believe they're just going I'm just a guy here's this crazy stuff that you do with this information what you will you believe it or you don't believe it and I think that's why a lot of these people who tried to attack me Ambush me you know whatever they always backfires always backfires I didn't even tell him ahead of time it's going to backfire when they do it and they still try and then it still backfires every single time so that would be that's the recipe for people out there just be an authentic person who's just trying to figure out the truth absolutely I agree um and and here's the thing um to your point Ian I I have watched a lot of your videos and and by the way we've actually used a couple of your Clips on our podcast and I think you do an amazing job of explaining uh kind of what we've been trying to explain tonight is like how do you explain to people the reality of what's actually going on and I think Ian you do an amazing job on video explaining that and I think that's why you're going to go down as in history as as someone that's like hey when when the times are going really tough and people are trying to divulge truth like how do youge it right um Ian how do you feel about number one MH370 and what is your outlook on America because I I I think that I think that if you know if if anyone watches your videos does have great hair you're like holy [ __ ] I I know what's going on um what do you feel about inry 70 and then what do you also feel about where we're going and I don't know if he's uh I don't know if he's spaces be glitching yeah they could be all the time also strike them down for using your content Ian strike them down yeah yeah you strike no it's fair use brother brother brother he probably so yeah anyways um but has anyone okay so to your point Ashton I um oh he's okay Ian are you are you here thank you did you hear my question earlier you might have to resay it it gets there's like a delay when people get brought up yeah I mean he's trying to talk it's can you guys hear me right now yes there he is what's up cool yeah thanks uh I'm on really bad self service right now I'm having home internet problems um but it sounds like you can hear me right now yeah we got you got you we got you now yeah I left and came back cuz investigate Earth was not coming through for me um if I cut out or whatever just roll with it and I I might Ian did you did you hear our question our question basically was you have done an amazing job trying to tell the story of what is actually going on in the world today right um and number one my my first question was do you believe about MH370 to be possible and then number two what drove you to do what you're doing now as far as going viral dude with what you're doing I mean you're doing amazing things video content short form telling people what they need to know um number one IM 370 what do you believe and then number two how did you how did you get to that point of hey how do I tell people very fast what's actually going on [Music] uh oh no Ian you might want to hold your phone out of a window no we were so close to getting his opinions Ian Ian hold your phone up in the air get on a chair and then stand up and then talk into no I just I gotta go out on the porch I think and get some Sky there we go yeah how about now right yeah it's better that'll give me a little bit um cool yeah I I didn't know much of anything about MH370 before I saw Ashton's reporting on it and Ashton did such a good job of doing what he was just talking about of sharing the evidence and presenting and Ashton you do a great job of addressing debunkers like with respect but also with uh with with facts um which is always a good sign of someone who uh is honest and like here for information and not for Dogma um so I lean towards MH370 seems very real um and in general it just ties into the larger network of like disclosure is happening from a lot of angles right now and every angle it happens from ignites a hundred new angles of like not just skepticism but also what feels like uh like immune responses to quote whoever was saying that just a second ago um and I I tend not to operate in certainty about anything like anything could be true or anything could be false but it certainly there's enough possibility of it being true that we we should all be considering it and investigating it because you know what's the worst that can happen you investigate something that's untrue and eventually we find evidence that it's untrue and then sick like now we've learned something right but but the only time when you shouldn't investigate something is when you're like beyond all reasonable certainty that it is untrue or if it's like completely inconsequential but the more cons qual something is the more reason there is to investigate it beyond all reasonable doubt that that's the way that I see things so smart and there is no more consequential question right like I mean that that's an opinion but I don't think there's any more consequential question right now than the alien question and I am honestly starting to lean more and more and more towards the word alien being the wrong word um based upon like the things that people like Tucker are saying based upon the things that people like the government officials are saying based upon the evidence that we have of like I mean this is where you get into a lot of speculation but I lean a lot more towards the either ancient uh like ancient civilization theories start to get really interesting to me um future civilization theories start to get really interesting to me I don't see any reason to rule any of that out and I also see that it could be a total possibility of things through the atmosphere and down to earth though Tucker had a great argument in his recent interview with Rogan about how like all the observations are on earth and we have like blanket visual on the atmosphere and we don't have any sightings of things coming through the atmosphere I don't think um but we have a lot of oceans that are unexplored on this Earth so I'm at the stage of just being like so curious and having so many questions and for me the biggest red flag is always people that are not curious like if you're quicker to say we know everything than to ask questions you're probably not very smart because because inherently you don't learn without asking questions and so the people that aren't asking questions are probably the ones that are not as smart umun about it Ian I I recogniz I recognize something in you that I recognizeed something in Ashton it's like you guys have an inherent ability to think out out of the box and I think I think what um what person that has made us who we are today has not uh been able to think outside the box you have to 100 per. yeah and it's I I think that we are all like especially in America I don't know how many of you are Americans but we're trained to think inside the box like our school system inherently is supposed to teach us to fill in bubbles um and so it is kind of rare breed of people although it's becoming more and more common as everyone starts to realize that the box is [ __ ] but uh it's kind of a rare breed of person that thinks out of the box but then it's you know it also takes a lot of being a connector of ideas like because a lot of times we're operating on partial evidence in a lot of directions we're operating on a lot of like little tidbits of stories little bits of leaks and so you have to do a lot of connecting of like I think that a lot of people are that are smart and skeptical are hesitant to to um like not jump to conclusions but to let themselves be imaginative in the process of Journalism and in the process of you know inquiry but you inherently have to be imaginative in order to learn what we don't know yet and in the topic of UA UAP is like there's no better example of a space where you absolutely need imagination in order to be able to arrive at the next truth that we don't know um but I think that same thing applies to even like basic Financial corruption any kind of Journalism where you're uncovering something we don't know yet and so I try to write a good line of like being skeptical and looking for evidence and looking for facts but being imaginative enough to know that like well we know this is the pattern of organized crime and so in this story do I see any of those patterns and if those patterns were real like what would be the next thing to look for because that's you know how else are you going to know what to look for and then maybe you'll find leads or maybe you'll find dead ends who knows but that's that's my take on that and as for what what brought me to where I am I don't know I invested in GameStop and then we learned that the whole stock market is a [ __ ] fly and then uh I got bored of waiting around throughout Co and was like well I could probably be pretty good at making videos and so I started making videos and I don't know I got real lucky on Tik Tok and was I I don't know a combination of luck and skill and one thing led to another dude you are definitely but actually there is there is one other thing I should say about that um because that's kind of my joking answer but the sort of more serious answer is what the question that I started with that I sort of am continually honing in on is like if I'm gonna be making content that's a job and you're gonna be doing it every day for the rest of your life so you damned well better enjoy it and like if my job was going to be learning information and sharing it what's the most like interesting information to learn I'm the kind of person that to me me the most interesting information to learn is the most important information like so to me the question is like what's the most important [ __ ] to understand in the whole world and I started out thinking it was money because well for obvious reasons but then that inherently led to actually like kind of like power the way I see it it's like the most important thing from my perspective to learn about is how the world works and like yeah that could be science that could be religion but but it kind of for me it centers around power and who's controlling the world and who's influencing things and who's controlling our government and our monetary systems and and I mean that naturally spirals off into things like uaps and so all of my investigations even though I like dig into a ton of different directions they all center around like being some of the most important things to understand in order to understand the most important parts of our world hence here we are talking about potentially being able to travel through space and time in ways that we never imagin possible it's awesome man uh real quick uh and then Samantha I'll let you jump because I just want to make a couple quick comments based on what Ian said first of all one thing I love about Ian is that even though I've been disclosing scary stuff like I'm pretty sure he's gonna get taken out by the government before I do so he's like kind of a buffer for me but um yeah I got you bro I appreciate you man uh I really love what you said about people that are certain you can't really question like somebody who claims to be certain about something you really have to second guess them but people that know that they don't necessarily know everything they're investigating they come off as more credible the other thing that I love that you said is this idea that the more significant something is the more we should look into it and not just dismiss it I think that's a beautiful thought about it and that's part of the reason why you I can't let these videos go until we get a response from the government because of how significant the idea of us being able to manipulate gravity in SpaceTime really is it's just so huge and the last thing just another little quick joke is that like I actually for a while I thought you were so good at what you were doing and putting information out there and making videos so quickly that like maybe you were being information by the CIA or somebody else I just thought like is this guy controlled opposition how is he so good at this so I can't wait to learn more from you sir appreciate it sorry Samantha go ahead Oh no you're good and I just wanted to thank you so much for joining and I know we've gotten off topic but this has turned into a great conversation and we've got a ton of new people who so um for one thing guys if you are new and you're not already following our host investigate Earth podcast go ahead and give them a follow we're going to keep doing spaces like this and never know who's going to drop in just like tonight um but if anybody has any question actually a pro Palestine College protest space or is the title wrong I was confused the title is correct but we started out there and we've ended up in uh UFOs which is kind of standard so hell yeah cool exactly yeah and um if anybody's got questions wants to share anything wants to ask in anything or Ashton do me a favor and just click on the bottom left on the speaker option and I'll give you the ability to speak and then go ahead andow throw a hand up if you would so we can make sure we get to everybody in order um an American citizen I know you've been waiting for quite a while did you have something you wanted to add with what we're talking about right now oh yeah I just wanted to add what I think's actually going on with the UFO stuff uh I think what's going on is pretty much like what Alex Jones said to where the Fallen Angels there was like either hundreds or thousands we don't really know of fallen angels that were cast out of heaven and they were sent to so I think what's going on is they gave the United Nations knowledge to make craft and they the ones that look like the orbs that we seen could possibly be fallen angels or something like that I'm not really sure so them orbs that are in that video are the exact same ones I've seen twice um and that triangle I don't know something about that looked like it was back engineered or man-made for sure that's pretty much all I wanted to add in okay thank you I appreciate that and um Antarctic can't read the second part right off but what did you have going on ah thank you sorry to break the chain we got an English guy here speaking um oh wow Ian Carol and Ashton in the same space brilliant uh two two of the people that I've been uh they're like two of my people from 2024 I follow you both um for obviously different reasons I can't hear Antarctic so if Antarctic talks to me someone else talk to me about it he's thaning for being here and you're his [Laughter] zero yeah um it was made up up the um I was following Ashton at the time on YouTube and I it was me that brought up the cloning um questions and I'm glad that he brought that up but um I was wonder what Ian what Ian think about um not just the cloning but the masking um of politicians what you know half of Hollywood it seems I just wanted to know what um Ian's view was on on um on all of that and Ian can you hear him Ian no but I can hear you so if you want to Reas a question he asked to me feel free yeah he wants to know what you think about cloning and what you think about masking I think what he means is like literally people wearing masks but yeah cloning and masking cool questions I've intentionally avoided this topic in my content because I you guys you you'll probably notice that I avoid the topics that like might have truth to them but but could easily get my whole platform kind of like put into the conspiracy boat in a way that like wouldn't necessarily be productive to me disclosing things when we have stronger evidence so to speak um um I think I was hearing Ashton talk about cloning just a little while ago when I first came in as a listener I was listening anonymously for a second maybe um and yeah I think that it's fascinating how much cloning technology just like publicly does exist and is disclosed but then there's this weird like like pay wall that imply that pretends like we can't clone humans um I do think that there's a a a not a knowledge Gap but like a a leap of that's not being totally addressed in that a lot of people are theorizing that like we're cloning celebrities and [ __ ] like that but that's totally skipping the fact that cloning doesn't mean you clone someone how they are today with all their memories and their brain and their age intact like cloning is like the con the technology of cloning is cloning the being as like an embryo or as a as an infant in a t like it would be a whole different technology to clone someone like cell for cell as they are today and that might exist but that's just like so much more advanced than the actual just concept of cloning and so I reserve judgment like I'm not sure um masking I mean like the CIA was using masks all the way back in the Cold War like that's like old school Tech and I mean that that's not that complicated I think that the complicated leap there is like holy [ __ ] would they really do that like with the [ __ ] president of the United States and I intentionally have not commented on that because like I think anyone that wouldn't that would outright say that's not possible is like dude you're an idiot they could like I could wear a Biden mask like audacity do it that's in question right and uh and like I don't I I try to stick to topics where I can put evidence on the screen that is sort of like we see hard evidence or somewhat incontrovertible um and so I leave those topics that are more more fun and speculative to the other people and in the realm of speculation but my personal opinion on it is that both are completely possible and it would be silly for people to think they weren't yeah thank you and I think you raised some great points there um and thank you for coming into our space and talking about these things and I I know what you're saying actually this conversation sort of started out that way that the censorship is definitely real um and I understand you having to kind of keep it to one side to even be able to still have your voice out there so definitely understand that um we're going to try to catch a couple more people Antarctic monkey if you'll drop out and come back in we'll read you as a speaker that way if you have more questions for in he'll actually hopefully be able to hear you hey by the way hey Sam Sam let's get to Ian or sorry not Ian's chat um maize maze go ahead yeah Ma love in the chat hey guys ma is the legend thank you thank you oh coming from you that's a huge compliment if Maz is a speaker though I can't hear her just so everyone knows y might rotate yeah we might have to rotate I think Ian might have to rotate and down I think I'm the problem and what I'm actually kind of bored like I'm chilling in my house internet is down so what I think I'm actually going to do is get in my car and drive into town where I have good internet and I can charge my phone and stuff so I think I'm just gonna drop out for like you know five to 10 minutes and I'll be back on when I hit the service in town and I'll just jump back in with you guys sounds good I'm setting up a a GoFundMe to get you some better internet Ian Ian I got I got starlink it's just that my cable got fried and so it's a new one is on the way ah 370 satellites the end so we're gonna see where you're at yeah I'll be back in in just a minute guys I'll see you in a sec sounds good thanks all right maze um go ahead how are you thanks for the invite to the space I wanted to pop in and show some love even though I'm late I apologize profusely um well I guess just a comment really quickly on the cloning and the um the masks I don't know about the masks I've seen a lot of stuff on social media about that but I definitely to go down the cloning Rabbit Hole to better understand what what do like you know evidentiary support can I find we do know about the raan ism um where you know this was something that was brought up many years ago and in fact he did almost a decade of interviews talking about what he was planning to do and then um they actually even reported on the progress of it and you know they're claiming at this point that there was a young um a baby or I guess a baby that was cloned named Eve and they made the announcement there's actually some litigation I don't know exactly what's you know some something U some legal stuff going on with Bridget um around it so it's the potential that there is one at least um I think there's more but of course again it's not provable that and I'm kind I'm on the same boat with um Ian because what that does um in a sense if you can't necessarily provide solid evidence then um it does kind of you know mess with your credibil credibility but um on the the pro Palestine and the college protest I don't know exactly which direction are you just getting General opinions about that um yeah Ma Maz basically what we're doing is um I by the way I know your s Maz um because and and by the way for for those that don't know um Maz and I really started well account wise we started basically the same time did we not yeah we did yeah we and and the weird and the weird thing is like she's got a lot more follow because she has participated in many spaces um we do not do that but um she's also just a lot hotter than you Chad absolutely 100% that's that's the other day I mean but also but maze also look look you can be hot and be dumb as [ __ ] and she's not so um so there is that um but regardless maze um Pro Palestine PR I think our consensus here is is that what we talked about earlier is that is the government or some type of scop trying to disperse the uh ability for people to believe that it is not okay to kill civilians because of what the media is showing you on the TV every single day about how [ __ ] protest are right I mean because I think maybe we can kind of agree with this is like these protesters what the media is shown is like holy [ __ ] dude like we do not want to deal with these people like we wanna like if they if they interject us and going to work or or to the airport like it makes you want to run these people over right I mean kind of right I mean it's like if if you come up to me and you're like you know whatever but is that a a scop to tell you that like hey just because civilians are dying in in Palestine like don't worry about that you got to be pissed off at this that that is kind of what we've been talking about okay well let me let me I guess kick this off with a question um you know I know the type of content that you um and you have on your podcast and I would say that most of the people in here have already awakened to at least one thing if nothing else all hands up and that is mainstream media okay it's driving a narrative it is driving something it wants to capture the perception of the people around this topic so what is it trying to tell the people in America Western propaganda it is basically showing and and if you'll notice that the tricks that they use prop Palestinian is often intertwined with pramas or Pro terrorists usually the pro terrorist won't be necessarily in mainstream but it has been um but that's kind of in the talking circles but you'll see Pro Hamas and also pro-iran I saw that and what trying to do is make it seem like these people are unruly they're coming for your country what are you going to do and then a at the same time they begin kind of um you know Finding ways to criminalize protesting and how would they do that would they do that the same way they did with BLM and let me tell you I I want to make this very clear the protesting is real it has been massive they have un they have broken the chains okay of the suppression around it this is something that Palestinian advocacy was highly suppressed for for many years I mean forever I mean it's it's people's jobs would get you know they lose their jobs they'd be unable to you know get good jobs after that even it would just destroy their lives so but now it's gotten to the point it's broken out of that and that's never going back into the bottle and there's been protests going on for quite a while in fact a million people went to Washington DC and it was so peaceful there was not a there was no like and yeah um I just the reason why I'm highlighting that and when I say all over the world it's back massive so I don't I want I want you guys to understand that there is a real um movement happening and that's not fake now what I do ma do do you love do you love America yeah I do why well the reason I'm asking is because there is a very clear divide between protesters that show up to these events that are anti-america and there are protesters that show up to these events that are pro- nonkilling civilians and that's why that's why I ask you do you love America because if you do then we gotta at least establish some baselines of like why are you processing are you processing because you hate America are you processing because you don't want civilians to be killed in Palestine first of all I think that anybody that is on soil here screaming death to America is a [ __ ] scop and you should know that you of all people should know that because people this is something that is a this is a age-old type of like back to you know the war on terrorism this is something that they would use to turn the the minds of Americans against a Islam and against um you know to kind of cause that divide here's what I'm telling you right I am an American I love America in fact I've had many spaces where I'm trying to get the pulse check on the American perspective around what's going on in in the Middle East and you know why because I think that people lack the tolerance for difference and that is why we cannot get United over the very fundamental things that we do care about and in fact if we could get past the surface on those issues we would be able to connect and unite for more important things but right now when I say that is like I mean our freedom I mean our rights I mean the right not only for free speech and and and all those things but right now our entire government has gone Rogue okay if nobody has noticed we literally are going broke from sending all of this money under these crazy foreign policies that is a neoconservative movement that's happening over there in the Middle East and people are not paying attention to that what I want you to know is that I'm not sitting here like I I I am not only pro-american I'm Pro Palestinian I'm prum okay and and what's going on right now is um an attack on many levels what I want you to know is that even though there's boots on the ground and tanks and everything happening over there in the Middle East there's been a war declared on the minds our the minds of the Americans have been occupied okay illegally illegally occupied and that's why when we're looking at this situation I really ask everyone to consciously be objective okay okay zoom out and think what is it that they want me to think and why do they want us divided right now this is the perfect reason for for people to say yeah you know let's let's compromise let's let's make our right to protest and and censorship let's make it conditional because when it comes back around on a different I would say let's just say a different issue um this will be held as the standard so all I'm saying is I'm absolutely pro-american and to be honest with you there's many there's many of these protesters are American just so you know it's not like a whole bunch of yeah if I can I agree the last thing I want to say is I'm glad you said that because I mean we've known each other for a while and um or you know connect scar me and I see some of your posts I'm like okay I I might have some a little worried here beliefs but I also understand that's why I wanted you explain um your Viewpoint and I think that we are so divided based on little things like it's like if this person goes for this then we have to hate them and and I think that's that's the big issue Ash I want to ask you's another question um and uh first thing I want to say is I kind of I'm GNA play the role of Sher here Chad to you know your opposite which is you know I think it's unfair for us to judge people who are protesting and where and try to figure out where we draw the line because if you go back to covid for example I was one of the people that was protesting against the restrictions there and should I have been arrested there was a lot of people calling for people who were protesting as covid restrictions to be arrested and I think it would be unfair to say that those people shouldn't be arrested but then be calling for the people who are the pro Palestinians who are uh protesting now and so that's why like May said is that if we draw the line one location at one spot then we have to apply that equally as well that's what you know equality under the law means so I think we need to be careful about that and then what I want to know with respect to Ma's opinion is I don't know did you see the Joe Rogan interview where they had um the guy that was uh pro-israel justifying the number of civilians that were killed um I I thought it was kind of uh shocking to me because they were arguing that well tens of thousands of innocent civilians have been killed but Hamas was like hiding within them therefore it was justified and I thought that was kind of silly to make that claim that that somehow justifies murdering innocent people is that there you know these terrorists are hiding within them but did you see that and what was your opinion on that listen I have been fighting or I should say when I say fighting debating that argument since like the git when they were just literally after week one it was insane right and that's what they kept saying oh they're being used as human Shields and it's Hamas that's under the tunnels and what tunnels show me a tunnel right they haven't showed a real tunnel everything they showed was debunked and this is why I this is why I have a lot of resentment towards Israel the government and obviously the the I would I would I would lean to say Psychopathic I've never seen such so many um apathetic people that have come together as a military in my life to where they can literally dance on the graves of those that they killed and and stream the the torture and abuses of the Palestinian people as they're you know carrying this out I don't know if you guys know about that but with that aside there's been this sentiment that Palestinians lives a Palestinian life is far more inferior than that of of um Jewish lives or Israeli lives and they're you know I and although they're probably being politically correct in how they're trying to you know I guess quantify what one Hamas you know member would be but the numbers that they put like for what do they call high value is you can they don't they're basically stating with this AI that they're using that a hundred casualties can be killed for that one and it's like I don't when they say that this is I want you to understand that this this is what I've uncovered this is this is again moving into my opinion but the what Israel is doing with impunity is not only changing the rules for engagement but it has violated every International laws it pertains to war crimes they are also just pay just pay attention for one minute there this is a military okay one of the most advanced in technology and they have Unleashed havoc on a a strip with 2.3 million people highly dense you know population of civilians okay and they have literally like just completely they went Rogue not one country can step in and even the the um the international Court could not stop it and if our country is now codifying in legislation a stronger relationship with with Israel it's literally all in our legislation many and i' I've held spaces on this there's obviously an economic potential that they're chasing right now with imch to extend connectivity between Railway and Port all the way through from India to Europe This is massive this is a huge deal right so when people aren't really thinking about all these other factors that are in it I mean they're not killing Palestinians just because they feel like that's an existential threat these are the narratives we have to separate the [ __ ] from what's real and I really want you guys to start doing this not for the sake of picking aside or fighting with me for the sake of a for your own expansion of consciousness but B for for us to be able to find ways to connect on real issues so that we as a majority can exercise our power against this this like totally corrupt I would say um I'll just say globalist move now one last thing I want to say is that we are watching um you know this at this point I feel like every dollar that goes towards the defense budget in my country because of how tight they are and how much United States has supported it it could be funding my own demise why do I think it'd be any different here and I think that one thing that most Americans forget is that as they're complaining about the border and they're complaining about how they're all these terrorists and everybody speaks Arabic why do you think they are at our border bro and if you want to continue this Allied relationship with Israel just know that the plans that they have which I have all that data we can go through it if you like um the greater Israel is going to require them to continue to have to fund and fight and disrupt and destabilize and there's going to be way more Arabs over here and many of our troops over there okay and so not that I mind I mean listen I love my Arabs I'm just saying that in general as an American we don't want our borders flooded we want them to go through the process that they're supposed to be going through but all of this is happening and and everybody's sitting your pointing fingers at each other fighting each other and it's like bro wake up okay your mind is captured let's get our perceptions back yeah yeah one last comment I want to make real quick Chad is that um you know a lot of people think that okay well there's this scop with respect to these protests that are going on but look at what the sides are when we had the black lives matter protest happening was the government stopping them no not at all they let it proceed as much as they wanted um with this protest you can see that the government's stepping in right away and shutting down the protest so to me if the point of this quote unquote scop is to you know disrupt things and you would be letting it go on which is which is not what they're doing and I and I have no side in this by the way I'm not on either side with respect to this particular conversation I mean I I I agree Maz and and Maz listen to your point and to Ashton's point is Ian I gotta ask you if you had to make a video on Palestine versus Israel how do you portray that in your video that's a good question I don't do it in a short form video that's for [ __ ] sure I mean I have many times like little aspects of it but actually I made a long form video on my YouTube well I think I didn't put on YouTube I only put on Rumble actually like the week before October 7th happened just kind of by coincidence because I realized I needed to talk about Israel relative to 911 and I realized I wasn't educated enough to like handle that before all this you know and what I actually wound up doing kind of just intuitively as I started researching it is the first thing I researched was the propaganda surrounding it because the conflict has been going on for so long and the moment you start researching it if you're perceptive you realize that everything you're reading is propaganda in one form or another and so I actually just started researching like all the way back to the beginning the like factual information about like what factually happened that found it Israel and then what what what led to the media environment within which I'm now receiving all of this skewed media about it um and it led me to a documentary on Rumble called the occupation of the American mind and uh that's that's the tack that I take first especially with people that are like I mean anyone who's seen my content knows that I'm generally like extremely critical of Israel and I'm not like I'm not pro Hamas but I'm definitely Pro inocent Palestinian lives um and anyone who holds an opposing view to that when I have conversations with them or or like get into a debate with someone I I feel like you can't AR like you can't find Common Ground if you try to argue over things that you think you are both right on you need to start with common ground or like common understanding or rewinding to just like understanding the other person's point of view and especially on a place where the media the information that people are taking in is all so skewed by very very well-funded uh media machines the first thing to do is to unpack who is funding that what kind of like effort is going into that propaganda how like what sources are people taking in I mean I think that's the first thing to unpack in in the space and I could not agree with you more and actually you two Ma and this I'll throw something else out the because otherwise you just wind up arguing over statistics that both people think they're right and both people are getting information from different sources um yeah if you're president Ian um what do you do uh tomorrow you become president tomorrow what is your what is your that's a big question I've never been asked it um obviously this answer is gonna seriously lack Nuance but um it's so good [Music] I I ask for an immediate review of all operations happening around the world um particularly in relation to the Ukraine the Middle East and the and the Border um I I don't know as the um vice president yeah 100% um I would need your I would need your expertise and your level head on it for sure I uh I don't know exactly what the presidential limits of Power are but I would enact some process of of trying to uh uh initiate peace talks and or stop stop military funding to both Ukraine and Israel until contingent upon peace talks um and then I reroute all that funding to the southern border and into the US economy particularly into things like uh whole task forces completely dedicated to auditing corporate um corruption in the banking military industri pharmaceutical and agricultural complexes um because like if you I don't know if anyone saw the uh recent Congressional hearing where they were talking about how much uh how much a bag of bushing C bushings cost when the US government is paying for like a plane to get built and how the military-industrial complex is like overcharging the US government by like 100x when we're built when we're buying weapons and planes and all this like and I would I would imagine that the amount of money that if if I didn't get assassinated on day two and we were able to called it examine those systems we could claw back so much money that we can fix all of our own problems here domestically um and take care of our own people and make it so that young people can afford a house and can afford a life and can afford school because inevitably like all the money's going out into weird covert operations into secret like UAP undisclosed UAP Tech technologies that aren't being used for the benefit of anyone and uh all that money is then creating an economic situation which puts the kind of pressure on us that we don't no one in America has the time to be educated well to be un to because the thing is when you're stressed when you're stressed financially that leaks into your interactions that leaks into frustration and anger and fear that leaks into the kind of uh social situation that is not conducive to discourse or to Unity and so putting economic pressure on the American people only SWS the seeds of divisiveness um and I would make sure the FBI is investigating Jay-Z I think that would be my no I agree Ian Ian you are dead day two I'm writing in Ian for president 100% I'm dead yeah I would I would need a vice president that was like ready to take job you know what I would do as vice president I would ramp up your security like insan I me we could talk about we could actually fantasize about how that would happen all day but we would dismantle the CIA and in order to do that we would have to completely um change what the Securities like and then I'm G fire Congress while you're doing all your stuff over there like I'm telling you I I would we have to I think that we're gonna have to actually my buffer in order to to really do reform what's happening only as soon as possible because guys it's not what Ian's talking about about the how they've been stealing money like they've exploited on every aspect but that specifically has been known for a very long time why are they just now talking about why is mainstream just now talking about it this has been known for a very long time we have people here struggling barely with even a couple hundred dollars in their bank account for for you know emergencies this is like an average family that's that's scary and it's only because we have all lowed to continue you know was somebody on a podcast president is really important we should quickly highlight what you said because there's this like overwhelming sentiment that gets propagated that like oh who president doesn't matter it's just a figure head or like voting doesn't matter it's just it's and like yeah there's elements of Truth to that but like when you actually like if you read about the history of the CIA it's just a specific example the president's office has massive power and that's baked into the like legal structure of how our country is formed and so yeah the president is just a figurehead if the president is a figurehead but if the president is a jnf Kennedy then the president has immense power to do things that can change the whole system America's working and the problem is that they like the CIA learned that very astutely when they almost got shut down and uh it's been pretty much top of their list to make sure that presidents that are you know manipulable or aligned with them or blackmailed are in power ever since yeah Ian can you hear me by the way can you hear ason I don't know yeah I got you okay oh I was just going to say um there's two aspects of that that I wanted to hit like first of all this is part of the reason why we can't pass an audit you know that all these audits can't pass is because we're paying all this excess money and it's just being funneled away and you know the military has it set up in a way where you know we can never figure out where it's going but there was another thing that came up on social media recently where I don't know who said it exactly but they said we should stop sending money to other countries until America looks like Dubai where everybody has the money to you know live and to me I totally resonate with that so once again I'm glad you're my buffer in terms of being assassinated before me appreciate you brother I got you man I just wanted to highlight that we used to have the right to veto um just so you know uh with the Federal Reserve and that was taken away in 19 I believe uh 17 or something like that I'll I'll check but that that was you know I guess one of that kicked off the the end are you guys able to hear me um do do you guys um last last thing last kind of sub um mazee I agree with everything you're saying about Palestine like I mean I think the protest like we we were discussing doing a podcast right on the protest uh and I was thinking I was like how do we how do we talk about this um because I do feel like it is infiltrated but at the very least um Ian do you think and then and then we can get to some questions here we got a lot of hands up do you think what is going on now is a mass scop like how how deep are we in in the reality of what what what is happening I mean you know you have a president that cannot talk barely um you have uh Advanced Tech you have UFO but also um H how much are we in a scop and then also Ian what is your religious take on the UFO phenomenon good questions um the op question is vast and I can only address parts of it obviously if you are going like everything how much of it is it a scop um I've done a a fair bit of digging into the Biden family and I think that the Biden family is heavily controlled on far more levels than most people realize from far more angles than most people realize I think they were installed um for the specific overt purpose that the what I just said about the Office of the President being so powerful like there are critical Global events happening in in a timeline and it is essential in the current time like postco like various it's really necessary for all these people with billions and billions and billion trillions of dollars worth of plans going forwards that they had a US president that would do nothing to like that would literally just walk around and hopefully say what they wanted him to say um but as far as like the protest themselves right now is that a scop um I think it's organic movement that's that's forming and I think that it's like it's it's similar to like the Tik Tok question like is Tik Tok a CCP thing it's like it's all user generated content like like this protest is user generated content like if you if you think it's not you clearly don't know any 20s somethings like you clearly don't know kids these days like they are so [ __ ] fed up and everyone has been just like when are we gonna make change when are we gonna make change when are we gonna make change and then all of a sudden you have all of the young people in the country agree that Israel should stop bombing Palestinian civilians and then they actually do something about it and suddenly everyone is like why are you doing something about it it's like bro what did you expect but that being said I think I think you're a fool or rather just uneducated about the history of the CIA or covert operations if you think it's not being infiltrated in every possible way right now because that's just the nature of covert operations is like they have never since the Inception of the CIA they don't create movements they find movements that exist and then they infiltrate subvert push and pull they do what they can to use movements that already exist in order to affect whatever they need to affect um they did it with BLM where it was like At first it's like this is about inequality and then suddenly it's about burning police stations and like off gassing tension they did it with January 6 in a way that like at first it was about like we stand for America and then suddenly it was like cool now we got our our footage that we needed um I mean I'm hugely oversimplifying um and so I'm just of the opinion right now that I hope that all those protesters and all those colleges are aware enough of that that they are being highly Vigilant to infiltrators and they are being very cogent of not falling into mob and group think because it's really easy to get led by scop tactics when you fall into mob think in the moment during a protest during the chaos are you guys able to hear me yeah I can hear you Sam okay um I just wanted to jump in for just a second ma thank you for joining um at this point we've got a lot of people that are requesting to be speakers I know there's a lot of people that want to be able to say things um with Ashton and in and Ma all being in here we're going to limit it at this point to people who actually have questions for the three of them so if you do have a question put your hand up or leave it up if not we're going to go ahead and remove a couple people as speakers just to get some other people in in case they do have questions take it away guys thank you Samantha um as to the question about the spiritual aspect of the UAP phenomenon I am highly fascinated by that aspect I'm actually on a personal quest to find God over the last year or so um and I think I'm not going to arrive at like a classical religious take on it but I'm so glued to like what people like Tucker are saying about the spiritual aspect of it despite having wildly different police than him um and for me the main the main thing there is like if every otherization in history has you know it's evidence B that they had interactions with these things in some forms and they thought they were Gods it's like well I mean it's interdimensional they're telepathic is what we probably know so I don't know I'm learning and by the way um Ian I I I agree we have done um quite a few biblical episodes the past two years it's like I am on this journey what do we have to I don't know man there there's so many things I thought I knew growing up and and now I don't and now I'm back on the journey but also science is starting to prove that there is more of a realistic aspect of IAL things I always thought I knew back in the day and then then I question and now we're going back to science science is proving I think the possibility of God which is weird you know it's really I love this topic tomorrow I'm doing a space with Gavin we're going to go into exis sixs right which is like the the study of existence and it and it takes in quantum physics and it kind of goes beyond that I mean and he's announcing something that is going to disrupt science science in a major way hoping um you know it's going to be huge I hope you guys come it's going to be great um but I also want to say that if you have not read The Celestine Prophecy I'm telling you this is one you have to buy don't do the online buy the book sit somewhere and read it I promise you something about that it it lets you kind of um I guess the insights and how the how everything in the universe is very very coherent everything even in its own silos you see the perfect coherence of how a worm much it does for agriculture right like just a worm a worm like we'll make a little hole goes down it does it thing and then that actually allows five other processes to happen that you know are seemingly disconnected or not related but they are and we are part of that right and so like how could it be so perfect right and so in essence with that I think um we see God in everything like to me that is that is that is in essence that same energy that is allowed for that EB and flow and The Celestine Prophecy talks about the current of how all of that happens it's so amazing the insights talk about energy and all that [ __ ] but um I just love that you guys said that if you're on your journey because that's that makes me smile I I love discussions like that um and yeah in terms of the what we're seeing in the skies like I don't think that that is aliens what I will say is that I do think that there are aliens I just don't think that they're going to need a I think that there's a whole different like another layer of science not yet um I do believe that these are probably maybe derivatives of some of the technology that they've already acquired a long time ago and they're not going to tell the American people because they or or the world because they're spending their money trying to you know build this out I I just feel like that these are most of them are technology of course there's definitely some real ones but most of them that we're seeing is I think human technology yeah one comment I want to make on that is I was just on with alphabets today which shout out to him and on his Rumble Channel and we actually spoke about this idea that uh technology is making people more spiritual again which uh you find out I think that a lot of people look at science and think they're trying to disprove the idea of God but when you start to look into quantum mechanics and the idea that the holographic principles specifically you start to realize that our reality is potentially a a simulation or a you know it's a construct I guess and if there's a construct then there's a Creator so for me looking into science has made me more spiritual um I was going to say uh what I've uh looked through right now is the the Nephilim and uh I think that that's an actual thing I mean like you know we we see like as like Bigfoot is not a real thing or what you know the government doesn't want us to think that like all these things you know like reality as we see it right now is almost like a skewed uh it's all skewed for us like everyone wants to see like their own thing like with you know they'd rather you watch like you know the gramms or that I think that that's all just garbage I think that what we should be watching is like you know what is like the reality of this of this plane that we're in and that where there's multiple planes I mean and you could call me crazy everyone can think their own thing you know uh that's the way that I think right now I think that we're in different planes and that things can hop into different planes like that so I just figured that that's what I would say you're you're not crazy Shane you're definitely not crazy good insights thank you thank you thank you hey ashon mer you guys cool if we take some questions yeah that's cool I just I did want can I ask um can I ask in investigate p i don't I forgot your first name forgive me I apologize profusely but what is your first ER what do I call you because I when I came in here I could sense what is your name sorry okay you did mute what is it that's all good it's it's Chad but yeah investigator Chad and Cherry well I wasn't sure what you wanted me to call you I guess that's what I should have asked so I I've noticed um I'm a very you know I could I could tell that you um potentially take issue with what I've been posting and you know it's it's okay like I welcome conversation and dialogue and you know better understanding the difference and I think we could make a great example out of a dialogue where I have my differences you have yours but I would love to know what it is that you take issue with and and you know potentially if you want to elaborate on why uh oh chat okay damn all right here here's the thing so I I don't spicy chat I think ma um when we first uh kind of met or I guess first interacted with with each other I mean we had well first of all the Israel Palestine war was not happening right so you know we had a lot of the same uh discourse a lot of the same feelings and thoughts and beliefs um I don't know I mean I I I think actually s to you tonight I was like damn you know what it's like it's weird because I think you have to be passionate about what you're speaking about and I think that you are and then but also I think how we portray things and how we say things at times um it can make other people feel a certain way um more I guess vividly or passionately on the other side of things um and although we don't necessarily understand Maybe by some of the things you post for me for my perspective from our perspective um I I think that was what it was for me but then hearing you talk tonight and then asking some of those questions and when we actually have a conversation um it makes me understand why you feel the way you do as passionately as you do and so um so I will take back like you know and and we've talked back and forth I actually sent you I don't agree with what you're saying at all um and and you were like why would you say that I think you said something like that I I can't remember what the what the back and forth was but nonetheless hearing what you said tonight and why you said it and why you're passionate about it and why you care about that I think those things are very important I think I think that caring about civilians no matter who they are um is very important have to care about civilians I think we have to care about people because I think the disconnect here is is that you are fighting against the overlords which make those decisions to kill innocent people just as much as we are with what we're fighting for um and although there are some little disconnects maybe it may be based on religious aspects of it or maybe it's based on belief systems or whatever the case is but the reality is is that it's all the same people that are making those decisions to influence um what our beliefs are and so so when I you know but but also in Nuance when you post certain things or you know from the past you know you would see those things and maybe you have like View and you're like well I don't agree with that and and that's that's not what I agree with even though if you hear what you said earlier um you know you you don't get you don't get what you said earlier in a tweet or a post or whatever you don't get the the Nuance of like why am I saying this and why do I care about this and I think we often times let little things or belief systems getting in the way of relationship and the reality is we're all fighting for the same thing we really are no matter no matter how we're fighting for it I think most human beings are fighting for the same thing we we just have varied um routes that we're doing that and so I I I don't I don't I don't I don't hate on you at all Maz I I'm glad you actually came in and said that and actually I think I came into space a big space that you were in at one point in time and talked about this as well um so yes and I think we have to take something from that to drop here guys guys I I know we think we understand everything we don't and they're going be fighting on both sides but how the hell the the number one question besides aliens is like how do we all come together as human beings and actually realize that we are fighting a a a a dictatorship a world dictatorship that is that is really trying to control all of us out with the junior wow I really appreciate your answer and also it does have me intrigued because you know and and knowing like which posts and what not because I want to defend or to say what because I want to understand how they come across because I want to be able to communicate in a way where people understand I'm talking to all of us I'm not necessarily like might have ask one more question trying to uh feed any divide at all and in fact I think that if we were to do an inventory about some of the belief systems that we have that kind of really push us in some sort of political position like how did how did we adopt those over time we've had a TV sitting in our living room for decades you know kind of feeding us these narratives and we we can't help but allow these little seeds to get dropped in our psyche and I think that that is still what we're operating from if we're not conscious about it I've literally had to unpin a lot of beliefs that I L like I'm still kind of acting I'm like but wait why do I even think that right and it's it's crazy to know I mean social Behavioral Sciences on like how to get people to act and react and be emotional and to consent is weaponized there's think tanks for this and I think that we are going to continue to fall for that um because our emotions will get tapped into and when our emotions are tapped into you know um rationale kind of leaves and we begin to react and and that's kind of what's been keeping people divided but I would love to know because I think it is more important than I can't I had a space to get all the Americans in there to talk about the Middle East to get just the American perspective what is it that you guys really think is going on and it was all my people I couldn't get all the other you know the other side because they're not going to come to my space and I realized that it's gonna be very difficult to pull this off if I cannot get you know an audience you know that's in there that's willing to kind of really talk about this at a deep level and not mudsling which I can handle that I don't care who it is when they come on my stage I can usually alchemize that but I just couldn't really get too many it was a thousand people in there but you know not not many that were speaking up for I would say you know what their feelings are that didn't really align to mine so anyway we can um at least maybe start communicating better if you see something of mine that you feel like is highly offensive you know I think what's been happening is people trolling the comments and it's just gone to straight War within the Twitter streets like I think if we're able to you know have the dialogue like what is it that offends you about this you know um maze Maz by the way I I I look I'm I'm not offended or or sensitive to anything I mean I I I know everybody has opinions for sure okay yeah I was just saying I was saying that in essence for everyone that's listening to us is that if we're not taking responsibility for building I would say productive relationships within this so that we can begin collaborating on you know some of the most important issues we have elections coming up we have I mean our cyber security you know who's running that what are these bills coming down do we even know what's going on like there's so much that if we're not partnering and organizing to some degree in some capacity um it could it could really be the downfall it's on us and I I'm I'm willing I'm open and willing and 100% ready and I just hope that we find a to make that happen whether you know whatever that looks like me I love starting fights on Twitter I just I love it so much nothing makes me happier than [ __ ] talking on Twitter I've seen very few people attack you though Ian like how do you get around the toxicity out there what's your man I wonder the same I wonder the same thing it's like I do get haters plenty of them but like I I did start what what the dialogue that investigate and Maze just had was really interesting because it it does encapsulate a lot of what I sort of like came I came into the game like old enough and like thoughtful enough that like I had a blank slate on my on my stuff and I wanted intentionally to make a platform that would be very much in the middle and not divisive and not like for example not address trans stuff at all because trans stuff is so divisive and a lot of it's opinion-based and so I just like ignored it and I I think maybe that built like a central base of respect even though now I am a lot more divisive especially on Twitter and I don't I don't know why I don't get more I mean I got into a fight with Hank Green on Instagram or on Tik Tok I think about science and sunscreen like I I got into lots of like heat on Tik Tok but uh it's kind of faded away know what's going on there you gotta teach me the secrets cuz I've had trolls that coming at me like crazy out there but yeah I see you out there and I did the same thing with like you know there's certain topics even the Israel Palestine stuff I mean this is why I think what Maze and investigate Earth Chad there were talking about is that a lot of it's just very heated there's a lot of very passionate arguments on both sides and I try to avoid a lot of the social issues that are out there as well you know like the trans stuff and what have you although I'm I'm definitely making fun of people without pronouns in their bios but that's a little bit separate I'd say I mean to be fair too Ashton one thing to keep in mind too is that when anyone whose account starts to grow very quickly I my my theory is based on my experience and watching others is that at first your accounts are getting pushed to wide varieties of people because you haven't niched out yet so to speak and you're following and people haven't blocked you and people haven't because every time that an account has not yet interacted with your content and your content comes across their feed they are an unknown quantity and so you're being shown to way more haters and over the first you know six months of creating content that's going far beyond your initial reach you're getting all those haters but over time the ones that hate you will start will start scrolling past your posts they'll start blocking you they'll start not interacting and then their feeds won't fill with your posts and so there's a natural sort of algorithmic flow that makes it so that eventually you kind of Silo in a little more which is not necessarily good but it does make it so that some of that hate just doesn't come your way because they just already ignore you and I think maybe part of it is also that I'm like reasonably good at engaging with the ones that I know I can like AB absolutely Smash and smashing and uh and send and then they don't come back and I try I like I try not and another part is actually I try not to get in fights where I'm wrong like if I'm wrong I'm like oh [ __ ] I'm wrong like I think it's really important to be have the humility on social media to be wrong and to not know and to like and to admit like you don't have to be an expert and when you actually get something wrong like engage with that learn from it have a discussion like it's not the end of the world and I think that that g gains a lot of respect from people and then in the future when they see you say something they don't agree with it's like there's a lot more grace around your platform but it also means that over time you start to get less things wrong and people start less fights with you because like there's nothing like there's no better defeat than like trying to like gotcha someone and then them just being like oh [ __ ] you're right man like thanks for enlightening me and then they're like what what the [ __ ] was that like what was that we were supposed to have a Twitter fight and then you were just like a humble rational human the [ __ ] um and I think there's nothing more I think you do a great job by the way of Towing the line right you had said it's like how do you tow the line like we're we're huge on Spotify which Spotify is great right now as far as like if you want to say [ __ ] that you can't say on say Facebook or X or Tik Tok or whatever Spotify is a good way especially if your audio because they're like hey you know we we got these numbers we got that money the ad revenue is still coming in but Ian does a good job with like Tik Tok and and those platforms X and who especially Tik Tok but to where you tow the line somehow so where you get your message out but you don't go too far and you kind of and I'm sure you probably think about that on a probably regular basis like how do I to the line just enough to not get banned right A lot of it especially Tik Tok is like the most sensor happy platform not necessarily for any logical reasons it's just that they have so much scrutiny that they have their AI censorship algorithms just like cranked to a thousand and so Coming of Age so to speak in the Tik Tok environment got me really good at sort of like rhetorical techniques like sarcasm or like leading a sentence to a thing and then not saying the thing and letting the evidence on the screen sort of imply the thing things like that that that allow me to not not like overtly say the hard Parts the controversial Parts the parts that'll get you banned but to provide all of the the building blocks for all of my audience to get there on their own um things like that really help I appreciate those in I've got drop guys um real quick just really quickly what I love about you is that you are very um kind of happy and eager to share information that you just found it's like you're going on a journey with your audience and and I have seen you say okay y'all I was wrong about that I appreciate the feedback you know and I remember it was pretty yeah because I'm all about regenerative agriculture too so that whole thing kind of you know it it was something that I was pondering at first as well but I I saw that you got a lot of the feedback and you took it you're humble and this is this is what makes you real and accessible and you know so I I thought that um I think that yeah you do a great job yeah I just want to thank some people because I have to drop here as well uh this been awesome space thank you Chad Sherry thanks you Ian for jumping on here as well looking forward to talking to you more in the future Maize everybody else T I see you guys up here uh just quick plug I'm going to be on the blaze tomorrow morning uh at 6:00 am if you are a subscriber otherwise I think it's going to post uh like noonish I'll be talking about MH370 stuff uh can't wait to talk to some of you guys more it's been an awesome night tonight guys have a great night thank you very much thank you a thank you May Ashton I hope you come to the um space that I have tomorrow if you want to co-host with me with Gavin yeah by the way Ashton is uh man we we had okay closing that guys okay thank you very much I'm gonna do a couple questions uh real quick that people asked I wrote down on my thing over here that I would help you guys out with before I go to sleep so as you guys just heard awesome space holy crap did not expect that guys didn't expect Ian to jump in have ma love jump in to babra jump in we had some of the uh most awesome people that are out there all of a sudden jump in this space I was playing on you know talking about more MH370 uh 370 stuff but instead we'll talk about it tomorrow I'll probably join Ma's space tomorrow with Gavin uh he talks a lot about quantum physics and uh extens extens it'ss I'm saying it wrong you guys probably figured out okay uh what is my favorite book and my favorite movie Gladiator was one of my favorite movies for the longest time favorite book um I see I don't read that much but when I do read um there's a series that I liked a lot that was called The Saga of reuse and I'm you know kind of a nerd so I like those middle eval medieval kind of RPG is kind of books so I like that a lot um another book that keeps coming to mind is timeline uh the movie sucked don't don't watch the movie time timeline but the book timeline was really good it's about going back in time in general uh people asked how do you teleport your plane well I did pin that to my profile so if you want to check out how you warp an object we're not talking about dematerialized and rematerializing uh what go ahead and read that I think I I lay it out you can Google the terms and you can check it out yourself uh it's not just making stuff up that's out there but the four things that I'm saying are real uh I'm saying that well maybe there's more than four extra Dimension is real space is not empty the ether is real this means that we can produce cold fusion which can achieve over Unity like the power of the Sun in the palm of your hand straight up free energy the ability to uh extract energy from The Ether itself that there's an unlimited well of energy available to us in that extra Dimension that's out there uh and then gravity manipulation uh and this comes in two forms so the first form is like em Drive being able to negate the force of gravity using like an Impulse engine electromagnetic effects just to create a force that's the opposite of gravity that's one form the other form is literally bending SpaceTime around an object to create a warp bubble and uh I'm saying that all of these things are real and I think that once you proved one of them you proved all of them essentially uh so that's what I'm saying that's out there uh let me see what if there are any other questions I wanted to address I think that's about it guys so um oh wait somebody asked a question are you master of the universe or a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle age 40 plus right uh both actually but more of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle age than the Masters of the Universe but I am familiar with both absolutely that's out there um so yes I'm hope you guys enjoyed this tonight I hope you enjoy the Eric Hecker uh hard TRS podcast uh as you may have gleaned from that conversation I am planning on hopefully talking with Ian Caroll again in the future uh definitely feel like a little bit kindred spirit with him now he's much bigger than I am especially on Tik Tok and what have you but I like the way that he goes about his logical thinking process uh just I I feel like I could talk to that dude probably for hours and hours and hours so hopefully there'll be some new content with both of us together collaborating in the near future I'll let you guys know when there's anything official that I can announce on that front um so yes thank you guys again and then tomorrow check me out on the Blaze and tomorrow night check out the stream I may stream the the space that Ma was talking about otherwise we will talk about more MH370 stuff I know there's been a lot of developments we found out a lot of information about how the videos are potentially 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