X Space - Jonathan Caruso Interview
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Analysis of 'X Space - Jonathan Caruso Interview' (S1x75P7z1Hg). Topics: MH370, UAP, ZPE, military_tech.
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- June 8, 2024
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# X Space - Jonathan Caruso Interview hey everybody we're getting started in just a minute here welcome to the stream sorry get I'm running a little B welcome everybody to the Stream we are going to be doing a xace here I'm going to be getting interviewed on this xace street um join that if you want to listen in I'm gonna go ahead and pull it up real quick actually once once I get started here okay wow hey everybody how are you guys doing tonight he's uh so Jonathan Caruso is going to be interviewing me here uh we're going to be talking about I don't even remember he gave me a whole list of things but we're just we're winging it guys I'm excited to talk about stuff I'm excited to be honest and give you guys my insights and what have you tonight been talking a lot with people behind the scenes it's been really interesting been fun I'm excited for this thanks everybody for being here okay Jonathan Caruso show I am joined as always by my beautiful co-host Miss s also my ALT account this you can hear me right some of it's explained on YouTube and a very special guest tonight Mr Ashton Forbes we're here to talk about MH370 free energy and life in general Mr Forbes thank you for this interview and welcome how are you doing tonight hey Jonathan man doing great uh you know I just got back from dinner had some Indian food it was delicious and I know we've already got a bunch of people in the chat here uh like one of the things that I'm most proud of is fostering this MH 370x Community uh we've got some of the smartest people involved in this community people that have been on uh that know a lot about kind of the type the history of the technology and the suppression around it that we've been digging into and uh I couldn't I couldn't be here at this point without all of those people so uh thank you guys very much from bottom of my heart and you've got a uh Discord Community as well is that right yeah so uh early on uh probably like like a week in to this whole MH370 investigation I thought you know this deserves its own like hashtag in community because it really wasn't just about MH370 it was about like well how does this technology work behind the scenes and there's like this kind of conglomeration of the two aspects so I started this community I just thought well I'm just going to put an X at the end of it to be here to tell you guys a quick funny story is like when I saw the UFO X thing I thought that the X meant like because that's like UFO Twitter and then there's UFO X I thought the X meant like technology it actually just meant like X is in the platform X so when I added the X to it I just thought oh it's like technology plus MH370 and it just sounded cool um and then I started a Discord pretty quickly uh had some somebody helped set it up for me I didn't know how to even set up server discords or anything like that but it's pretty self-sufficient uh I think we're built up to almost over 700 people or something like that it's pretty big um and yeah it's just been it's been a wild ride um you know a lot of people I can't even really keep up with the Discord anymore because there's so many people in it um but there's people like I go to I've been to a lot of communities that are like really toxic as the like for lack of a better term and this community is really the opposite of it like rarely are there even arguments amongst people and you know not everybody has the same views not everybody has the same political views or the uh same view on the history of the UFO phenomenon and the nature of it so I just think it's really cool that everybody can kind of get along and not really uh you know get out each other's throats so that's what I love about this community I love about our Discord that's awesome and we've got some people uh at least one person asking for a link to the Discord so if you want to drop an invite if it is open invitation or uh how can people join it yeah it's funny because I literally I was talking to the the live stream I'm live right now on X and on uh YouTube right now we're live streaming this simultaneously uh I pretty much always post a link every day when I stream so for people that don't know the best way to catch an invite is to join the live stream this is how I kind of keep it so it's got a gradual growth we've had a lot of trolls that would kind of jump in so that's why I don't have permanent invites out there so I did just post one right now uh in the YouTube channel so you can either check YouTube or X it's it's on the screen on X right now and um if you're not familiar with these servers like most of them have a verification process we have a channel called verify go there press the button or whatever it makes you do and then you wait like 10 minutes and then you have access to everything so there you go awesome thank you very much and before we do start I want to have just a moment of silence for the 239 Souls that were lost uh on Malaysia Airlines flight 370 thank you Ashton how did you how did you originally get involved with this I know the videos were put out by the regicide and on account on YouTube um back in what was it May 2014 and I know 's been some talk like in the description it says that they were obtained on March which you know that that date could have been um you know just written in there there there's no way to to prove that that was the date that regicide and on that account ascertain those videos but how did you um come into you know this this investigation yeah great question and you know the history of it is that this investigation started started on social media it started on Reddit I'm not a big fan of Reddit in fact I think that Reddit is the um number one most uh Federal controlled social media that's currently out there right now and I think it's the biggest platform of disinformation on the planet currently um I think that people used to think that stuff like 4chan was and now I think it's places like Reddit unfortunately um and then what you'll find there especially if you're in the UFO Community is that there's a huge amount of suppression that happens there's been like at least three or four cases in the last year where people have had their posts like deleted that were like whistleblowers that were posting there one person in real time I think it was the ebo scientist was literally answering questions and got their account deleted while they were answering questions which is just crazy to me but they uh these videos had they've been they've been posted every so often I didn't go look and see all the times they've been posted on the internet but I remember the most recent case we looked up was in January of 2023 that the MH370 videos have been posted on the UFO subreddit and I remember looking back right when they reemerged in August they were posted again on like August 7th um and that's when things just started to take off but people looked back and they found that January post um it was actually by Ashley berlitz or at least the YouTube video that was posted was by Ashley berlitz and um it was like all these negative comments about how offensive it is to the families that people are posting this blah blah blah really weird comments like that um but when PE when it reemerged in August people right away were doing analysis and and they were already finding stuff that made the video seem extremely authentic um for me the biggest one and I didn't my social media guys just be honest like I didn't have a Reddit account back then I was just one of those people that was like lurking or whatever I had one before but I deleted it around 2020 um and my YouTube or my sorry my Twitter account or X account just had like 30 followers on it i' had had it since 2014 but I had never really like used it very much I replied a little bit but never like posted anything and uh when I saw that like if you guys go look back you'll find all the analysis threads from early August that were out there but for me the moment that I was convinced was a couple days in where somebody had pointed out that this was a citric session that was a remote terminal citric session for people that are not familiar that means that you're logged into a remote database and a lot of times this how big companies operate all the companies I've ever worked with like whenever I log into the domains and I'm in healthcare it you usually log in into a remote server and when I saw that and that explained the mouse on the screen and the frame rate difference between The Mouse and the satellite video in the background and between that and then having seen the Drone video 10 years ago and and just dismissing it like everybody else had uh in combination with the fact that myself when I was looking at the videos one of the things that I noticed right away like I was trying to think about like how these videos were filmed and I realized it had to be a screen recording that this wasn't somebody with like a a phone a lot of these like leaked videos it's like somebody's got their phone and they're recording a screen a computer screen and that's for safety purposes so that they can't be tracked as easily because when you're doing a remote terminal session like that's going to be logged for sure so when I saw that I went holy crap like that's weird this means that somebody actually did a screen recording it's a citric session they're going to get caught and that's for me when I was like I've I I was at that point had high suspicion that what we were looking at here was really authentic military leaked footage it didn't make any sense for anybody even hoax something like that or how they would even think to hoax it especially when a lot of the people in the public don't even understand what a citric session is what a remote terminal session is so the body of knowledge somebody would have to have it was huge and then of course lastly the biggest thing was just what is satellite video in general nobody even knew like most people that looked at that satellite video the first thing they thought is like am I looking up or am I looking down they didn't even know a lot of people now you say you're looking down like oh that's water wait what because we have no frame of reference for what we're even looking at there um and I thought well that's interesting because maybe we do have some crazy satellite technology that nobody knows about so I started posting about it um I started amplifying a lot of the analysis that I saw because I had a feeling it was going to get suppressed uh I had seen lk99 get supressed in real time uh when people were looking into this metamaterial substance and I had already like suspected Reddit of potentially being fed controlled and sure enough that's exactly what happened there ended up being these little Wars where debunkers were trying to convince people that the videos were fake and for them to go away and then people were doing more and more analysis that proved all these small details were were legit uh and then eventually this Pyromania debunk appeared from a one- day old Reddit account and I saw when I saw the one day old Reddit account I knew that this was some Shenanigans going on right away and um they claimed that this non-matching VFX was a match to the videos which objectively is not even now at this point the debunkers their argument is that somebody modified it to get it to match the videos even though it's not the right number of frames it's not even the right frame rate in terms of the speed of it um it's just a similar blast effect now um what ended up happening after that people dug into like where that asset came from found that the asset came from the doe DOD it was like a contractor to them as the person that made it and that there was like update updates on it recently as well and that the where the place would have been um downloaded from came from like January of 2023 they found a lot of sketchy stuff but the UFOs subreddit moderators just banned all discussion from that point going forward and you would see all these comments about thank God this is going away thank God we don't have to talk about this anymore and stuff like that which was just not I'm not saying that all these people are disinformation in fact we can talk more about that later I think that very few people in the UFO Community are government disinformation uh but I just knew there was more of this case so that's when I started picking up the Reigns myself started my own investigation you know we're nine months later and I think that I'm up there in the upper echelons of MH370 investigators I would put my knowledge up there with anybody else uh in terms of experts on the case and investigation and uh now now you know as you guys have seen in the last few days the science has led to this idea that there is an ether and that if there's an ether that you can produce uh what we would call free energy which is really overunity um and I found a backdoor way to prove the videos are real which is if we can prove that you can actually achieve overunity with a device that can run freely basically persistently you know a perpetual motion machine as people would call it then in my mind that's a back door proof to the technology and the videos being real because never would have gotten to this point without that so sorry that was a little longwinded but there you go no that's that's okay um what what do you think anyone would have to gain from hoaxing uh the videos like what what do you think let's say let's just assume for a moment that the video is showing the uh the three orbs coming in and circling the plane and teleporting it away um let's say someone faked those and put it out what purpose do you think that would serve yeah that's the big problem there's none you know like what's the psychological profile for the hoaxer there's none you know what this all comes down to is that when people ask me like or you know what's what kind of Investigation I'm running or they say why don't you write a scientific paper a lot of people say that and I just kind of laugh and I go I'm not out here trying to conduct a scientific experiment although I do follow the scientific method because I think that that's a good way to determine the truth I'm doing more align to a criminal investigation and what I say by that is that it's not that every piece of evidence has to be like a hard Smoking Gun it's a matter of putting all the evidence out there and then coming up with a comprehensive story that makes sense this is how a criminal case is is uh you know fought in the in the court system and so you take all this evidence and you go okay what's the story that fits all the evidence keeping in mind that some evidence is stronger than other other evidence and we do have some smoking guns as well like the satellite ordin and I think somebody else made a post recently saying well with respect to the story for them being fake there's nothing that makes any sense like this idea that somebody's some kind of monster that's tracking the case better than the public was tracking it that has insight to military knowledge and classified assets where there was never even any drone videos Declassified until 2017 uh and then knowing more about physics alternative physics that really nobody in the mainstream knew about um and knowing also about like the engineering capabilities of a real Boeing trip 7 because that's a real Boeing trip 7 we're seeing with a real turning capabilities there's just no story that makes any sense even if you don't even disregard the timeline you know what you said the the first reg side non satellite video says received March 12th 2014 on it that's four days after the plane disappeared and so the first thing as a debunker is you'd have to say well reide must be in on the hoax because otherwise why would they lie about received March 12th 2014 only a 4-day window I mean we weren't even searching we were searching the South China Sea still then it wasn't until March 13th that they came up with the South Indian Ocean narrative and it was us intelligence sources that came up with it so there's really no comprehensive story that makes any sense and today even nine months later no debunker has ever put forth any type of comprehensive story if that makes any sense um no debunker has ever tried to find the hoxer there is no hoaxer they don't exist they didn't come forward for $150,000 real money by real rich people um and I think that's very telling especially because the debunkers claim that they found uh a cloud picture that could have only been downloaded less than a handful number of times and they know they literally know who the owner of the website is so there's no excuse not to find that person versus the story that I've put forth uh which I think uses no I don't think I know it uses more evidence than any of the official expert investigators stories by far it's not even close actually um and that's the thing where I think a lot of people struggle with is that they don't realize they say oh you don't have any evidence not only do we have evidence we have more evidence than every single other story out there by magnitudes um and that's why I'm very confident that the United States took that plane and those videos are legitimate do you think there's a nonzero chance that it could be a very elaborate you mentioned that you know you would have to have knowledge of the Boeing trip 7 you would have to have knowledge of the available satellite footage or and be able to knowledge of the citric systems do you think that it's possible that it is a very elaborate C Counter Intelligence operation in order to misdirect or um cover up something else um maybe more nefarious well yeah so I mean what I would say is that the only thing that's even plausible is the idea that the United States government made those videos themselves uh which also just makes no sense either unfortunately is like what were they trying to convince people that aliens took the plane like what what's more nefarious than covering up gravity manipulation SpaceTime manipulation and and making it look like they took the plane like if if some you show those videos without any of this investigation to random people on the street you say these are real videos they're going to say okay wait so the United States stole this plane because no one's going to believe that aliens took at least not you know people in the UFO Community might but people on the street certainly aren't so the question then is like well you're just implicating yourself if you're the United States government you made those videos and they've never promoted them if anything they're still trying to hide them right now you know I've given this information to AO and they're not coming out saying yeah guys we hoax those videos ha you know or even like trying to promote them or any way anything like that out there um so I don't really see any narrative that makes sense uh plus the biggest issue the biggest issue that is against the videos being fake entirely no matter what your scenario is if it's a hoaxer or the government made them is that we never found the plane there's no plane they claim that they know the plane crashed in the South Indian Ocean based on some satellite pings and they claim they know it must have been along this seventh Arc based on these pings the seventh ping actually comes like 10 minutes after the the sixth ping I think and that's how they determin that must be like where when it crashed and they have a plane running out of fuel there is nowhere else for this plane to be the only logical conclusion is the satellite pings are wrong we searched up down there the official search not only did they not find a plane the official search found literally nothing nothing not any black box is not one piece of the plane that's just impossible I mean the thing I joke about with people is that you don't have to be any kind of expert to solve the case of MH370 you just have to be able to use basic critical thinking capabilities not even a complicated critical thinking just basic critical thinking planes don't crash in the South Indian Ocean without leaving a debris field they clearly sent people to the South Indian Ocean because it's the middle of nowhere and the plane can't be somewhere else because we've got satellite pings that say where the plane should be and we've got the plane running out of fuel in this scenario as well it can't fly without without fuel so where exactly is the plane and you go look at those videos and you go oh okay well a this explains why they covered up the real story this explains where the plane is it's not where they think it is somewhere completely different um and and I think that that's where again people just have to look at the evidence in totality and try to come up with a scenario that makes sense and what you'll find out is that the fire scenario the emergency event scenario by far makes more sense than anybody else's and at least let's say makes more sense Than This Plane randomly flying in the South Indian Ocean for six hours and then somehow not leaving a debris field out there let's shift gears just a little bit I'm curious are you familiar with uh Colonel Carl Nell's comments at the recent salt conference uh is that the one where he said the extraterrestrials exist or something like that that's that's it I'm gonna play the uh the clip for people real quick it's very short and so Carl here's here's the million-dollar question do you believe that a higher form of nonhuman intelligence has visited this planet right so non-human intelligence exists non-human intelligence has been interacting with Humanity this interaction is not new and it's been ongoing and there are unelected people in the government that are aware of that and so Carl that is quite a bold statement um I'm wondering and I'm curious how confident are you that that is true there's zero doubt so Colonel Carl Nell uh has worked he's an aerospace executive um he's worked at the Pentagon uh Bell Telephone Laboratories Lockheed Martin uh TC caci enco uh he's he's done a lot he's not just some Fly by Night military officer that they pulled out and stuck on stage um there's also been several other whistleblowers uh you know David grush testified be uh before Congress uh that there is a UAP um retrieval program and so I'm curious what are your thoughts you said that if you took these videos out on on the street and showed people and said that it was aliens that they wouldn't believe it but what we've seen at least in the UFO Community is this really big push for controlled disclosure um that there is nhi non-human intelligence aliens so to speak so what are your thoughts on on disclosure that's coming from the government people like Colonel Nell yeah I mean what I would challenge people is so what if aliens exist a the universe is extremely big and it's now we just pushed it back another 10 billion years we were used to say it was 13.7 billion years old and we're really also talking about distance in terms of light years as well um and then now we're saying it's well 26 billion I mean that's a really really really really big Universe to me I believe that life is abundant and life is probably everywhere now when it comes to Advanced life I think that's a different story uh but if the technology we see in those videos is real then all the cards are on the table the more I learn about the technology the less sure I am about the nature of where it comes from and the nature of the non-human intelligence question so I have no reason to doubt people let Carl know it wouldn't surprise me if there is some non human intelligence the only question to me would be what's the nature of it I think that everything's on the table it could be aliens from somewhere else aliens from another dimension it could be future humans and there's some retrocausality thing going on could be Cryptids or ultraterrestrials could be that we are the aliens and we're living in a prison planet uh I really don't know but the end of the day I don't really care that much to be honest with you neither none of those things will really surprise me at this point I mean the fact that we've been covering up gravity and SpaceTime manipulation technology ology probably for decades uh is really damn dark and it makes me question like you know how dark the government goes with hiding in suppressing some of this and why they've been hiding and suppressing some of this if it's just as simple as well we're going to destroy ourselves or if it gets a lot darker where it's like we're the aliens and we're living in a prison planet if we get too technologically advanced our big brothers are going to come in and slap us down or something like that I really don't know but I'm excited to look into those uh answers in the future and and try to figure that out um what I would say though and this is a little bit as a tangental point is that a lot of people think that the UFO Community is infiltrated by disinformation agents who are you know spreading a bunch of lies and everybody thinks that everybody else is a scammer and what have you and I see all this infighting I never expected it when I when I first jumped into this community and was trying to disclose the the MH370 videos but now I see everything a lot clearer and what I say is there's far fewer if any disinformation agents the community doesn't need disinformation agents to be dysfunctional uh the UFO community in general is just at each other's throats all the time everybody's talking smack about everybody else everybody's spreading lies about everybody else that's the reason why all this stuff gets ground to a halt and that's the reason why you know when Carl Nell says something like that it's like oh he's people say he's just telling stories or what have you but then you'll say like you know he's got all this background he'd be in a position to know and you say well what's the way through through that how do you get past that that inass of uh cool story bro basically and the answer is you go into look at the technology you learn about the science if you can prove the technology is real everything else will just fall into place and this is why I tell the UFO Community um you know it's a little bit arrogant but like I'm giving you guys disclosure on a silver platter because if we have gravity and SpaceTime manipulation technology I I personally don't think that we've uh figured that all out by ourselves without some type of help um and I think it people would stress uh or it would um you know be ask force people to ask a lot of questions about you know the idea of non-human intelligence and I don't think they're ever going to wheel out any bodies to say you oh here's the bodies and ironically like if Biden came out and wheel the bodies out I think a lot of people would be like no now I know they're fake so this is the struggle that we're in in this post-truth world where it doesn't even matter and as long as we're sitting here and talking about this person said that they that aliens are real and this person says they had a telepathic communication with aliens what have you we're never going to get disclosure and I think that's what the government wants because the more we're sitting here fighting about I heard aliens are real and you need to trust me and no I'm not going to trust you that's just a story nothing's going to ever move forward but if people are actually focused on trying to understand the science about how a ship could even get here from the andram Galaxy or how we can have hovering crafts um then I think that we will end up getting disclosure automatically as a byproduct what do you see as the best way to disclosure of all of this information the gravity control suppression the energy suppression uh the existence of nhi what is the best way forward for complete disclosure yeah first of what I would say is everybody should do their own thing and I don't want to discourage anybody from doing their own thing um and I know actually that there is anti-gravity type technology that's out there it's incredible and I would say that the secrets from what I've figured out is that comes down to uh semiconductors and plasma physics which is you know there you go there's a little Head Start maybe for the people that want to dig into it and look into it it's all hidden in plain sight as well is that all the puzzle pieces are out there for people to understand um but with respect to getting out there for disclosure I think that really what we have to do is we have to wake people up um I've went through my own Awakening process uh if you had asked me a year ago about pretty much anything that I was talking about right now I probably wouldn't believe it myself um and I think that goes to show that everybody has to see the evidence for themselves and and start to wake up is that the biggest thing is disbelief that holds people back uh and for the record on on the non-human intelligence thing there's it's quite divided what I found is even amongst my own followers significant percentage of them are certain aliens can't be real and another percentage of them are experiencers who know aliens are real uh so I think that that is a very challenging thing to push past now what I've chosen to do is I found a backd door way to potentially showing that the MH370 videos are real which is that when I looked into the science I found oh well all these scientists that explain this technology also believe that there's an ether that the space-time ether uh that SpaceTime is not empty and if that's true then we can also harness Zero Point Energy free energy over Unity these are all pretty much synonyms for the same concept it's not that we energy just becomes free it just is that we can extract energy from the environment using an open system that gets more energy out than it puts into it and you would say oh well that's free energy but you still need to be able to produce the devices so that's the reason why I've been pushing for overunity and free energy is that if we can prove that that's real then deductively you can say oh well that means this other science can now be real that means that what we SE in the MH370 videos can be real and once people accept that that stuff is possible here's the way that brainwashing and uh propaganda works is that you need a critical mass of people to believe it a lot of what propaganda is especially on places like Reddit is consensus cracking or building a false sense of consensus if it seems like everybody else agrees with you then you agree with it as well people just read the headline lines they read the top comments that's how they form their opinions and you'll see this a lot I've actually seen it in my own life where people literally adopt other people's beliefs and stories as their own and then they become their own stories so how do you break that well you do the opposite you wake people up and once enough people accept that this technology can be real it becomes self-evident and then it just all starts spilling out so that's what I've been trying to do is I I pushed away from just like really trying to convince people and then just try to show people you know here's the science that shows that Quantum quantum teleportation is out there uh here are the scientific papers and the scientists who were studying anti-gravity here's how they like disappeared or got sucked into the black projects you know as opposed to just telling stories about who I saw this and I saw that so that's my opinion on how it's going to get done but ultimately I wouldn't say I'm some expert on how to achieve disclosure I'm just one guy who had his mind blown and now is trying to figure out what the best way is myself thanks very much again for doing this interview if you haven't already folks please like the space it is free if you feel so inclined please repost it if you have questions for Ashton uh we are going to be bringing people up on stage later in the interview or you can post them in the comment section make sure you're also following Ashton on YouTube where he is live streaming this space right now hello YouTube chat also uh I Ashton I wanted to ask you about a comment that someone put from hetl I'll share it up into the Jumbotron AKA The Nest uh she said MH370 while the search has been going on more than 20 pieces of possible debris have been found by members of the public on the African coast and islands in the Indian Ocean and she linked to a uh BBC article um so I'm just curious if you could give your thoughts on that I'll uh share that up right now oh yeah for sure um and I've got a couple images that probably should post as well but I think that the two things that people say are well we've got these satellite pings where we found nothing um and that oh the ocean's really big and I think I addressed the ocean's really big thing I mean if the satellite pings are real then it doesn't matter how big the ocean is if the satellite pings are fake then we have to question the whole South Indian Ocean narrative to begin with since the only evidence that the plane win the South Indian Ocean is the satellite pings now we know the United States government is lying about this plane how do we know that well there was five radar in range when supposedly Malaysian radar lost contact with the plane five Radars from three different countries Thailand India and Indonesia all would have been tracking the plane they've all been silent about it that makes no sense and that was all in the location where the plane supposedly turned into the South Indian Ocean we also have the Sosa system sound surveillance system that heard the Titan sub pop that would have pinpointed the exact location of the crash of the plane and there was two hydrophones that they looked into scientifically actually the beginning of May about a month ago and only one of them even picked up any sound that even anywhere near the times when this plane was in the South Indian Ocean out of the two of them and both of them should have heard the plane crashed into the ocean and the one that heard it the time is 20 minutes after the supposed plane would have run out of fuel so you can pretty much rule out the one the only Acoustic sound that they detected so there's essentially no chance it could have even crashed down there and there's at least three additional Radars Diego Garcia Pine Gap uh which are two military bases of the United States and the Jord system gindely operational radar network of Australia Over the Horizon radar can see for thousands of miles potentially could have tracked the plane from takeoff to crashing so all all these systems didn't see it and no satellites saw anything either uh We've shown if those videos are real that we have video satellite surveillance that we can pull up in uh hindsight and track objects after the fact um and that even if you don't believe that we're doing real-time tracking like that or that we have those capabilities the plane crash into the ocean we have satellites that are mapping the whole globe every day the debris field would been visible from space for days and they all nothing now you say okay well what about the debris that we did find well if you look at the 20 pieces of debris and uh I think that's it's arguable how many are from the plane first of all none of them were matched with unique serial number when the media talks about the serial number situation they leave out the fact that it's just a part number that the unique cereal plate on the flaperon which washed up in The Reunion Island was missing mysteriously missing even though it's bolted on now I think that this story that I present is the only story that actually assumes that all that debris is of MH370 the problem with the South Indian Ocean narrative is it's literally impossible for that debris to have washed up in Africa the debris that they found and again this was not the official search but this was civilians found debris in Africa but the crash site is off the coast of Australia the currents down in Australia flow to the east I've repeatedly posted several images of the currents which I'll put in the replies here in just a second for you guys as well the debris if you look at the drift analysis should have all washed up in a western Australia not in Africa and if you remember if you're old enough to remember what happened people were very confused why debris was being found in Africa it made no sense it's actually literally impossible for that stuff to have gotten there especially because a lot of it was found within like 16 months after the plane disappeared and that's not enough time for the debris to even get there um and so this is then some of the debris even had burn marks on it which is interesting because the scenario I put forth is a fire event one of that the plan's being teleported to the West near the malds and that it ends up in Diego Garcia and if you look at the images that I'll post here in a second I put a little dot on the map on this ocean current map that has Diego Garcia on it and if you look at those currents you'll find that a much better location for the debris to have gotten into the water is at Diego Garcia now the last argument I would make is that not only now do I think that we've ruled out the South Indian Ocean because the debris is not consistent with the South Indian Ocean crash that there's not even enough debris to quantify a crash there should be thousands of pieces of debris not just 20 tiny pieces that account for less than 1% of the total plane not one body not one piece of luggage not any significantly sized pieces of debris the flon is probably the biggest one uh which is 8 long but the wings of the plane are 100 feet long so just to give you guys some perspective this is how as well and I don't want to be rude to anybody but this is how the media lies to you is they present these ideas to you without the context they don't tell you about the serial number using a part number and not the unique plate number they don't tell you that the debris is too far away that it couldn't have drifted that far they just all the facts that would break down the LIE they just don't tell you about and this is what's sad too about the Netflix documentary is that the Netflix documentary touches on like 10% of the evidence I would say based on what we've uncovered um which is probably why it's such a terrible terrible documentary and why people like when they watch it they just doesn't really feel as good when you watch like a really good documentary that educates you because a real documentary would dig into all this evidence and and have you come up with the conclusion and that's what I tried to do so uh that's a great question though it's probably one of the most common ones I get around the debris so I'll go ahead and post in the replies right now so that people can see um the actual um debris drift as well as the um the one that actually shows all the where the debris was found with Diego Garcia with the currents and with the search area as well so that you can see you know if you just use your common sense once again there's no chance this playe crash in the South Indian Ocean thanks very much and I posted um the radar uh picture that you shared on the um what was the podcast you were on the other night I was watching it yeah alstein yes that was an excellent interview he did a great show um you're currently on a a bit of a a podcast tour I appreciate you doing this space what else do you have coming up right now oh boy yeah you know what like I've been it's been wild I've been trying to pull back because I've just been doing so many but got like already four set up for next week so gonna be talking to Diamond Oppenheimer Ranch Daryl who I feel bad because I don't know Daryl's last name on this but um uh Mel from the project Veritas uh which is different than o'keef James O'Keefe's project Veritas um I do have a thing uh set up as well with um Mike from Health Ranger in the future and currently working through some other uh some others as well but end of the day at this point I'm not really in like a huge rush for any of this stuff like as you saw I've kind of pivoted towards the free energy side I mean I had um retired from the case on the 10 year anniversary and then uh I had done the redacted interview and that was really big and then the debunkers came back out of the woodwork to try to debunk the videos again and I wasn't going to let that stand unabated and then so things got really huge again people like the Hodge twins started retweeting um but now once again I want to be trying to focus on proving the science is real and if people still want to talk about you know the M37 zero stuff I think it's fine but even the debunkers at this point kind of admit that this thing has entered the Zeitgeist now like this this these videos are never going away uh this case is never going away um and so it's not really a rush like we've waited 10 years for answers and like I said before we have to get people to wake up to what kind of Technology the military industrial complex and the private defense contractors have and as that continues to happen I think more and more people will want to talk to me and uh help get the information out there so I'm just taking in stride treating like a marathon um not in a rush to you know try to prove the case or force the issue or anything like that go ahead Miss s thanks for the mic Jonathan hi Ashton it's great to meet you uh by voice anyway um I'm wondering if the if it's true that the like pieces of debris there's like about 20 that the first one is the only one that wasn't found by the same person that I forget Bill something bla Gibson yeah Blain thank you is that true that he 16 months later in a short period of time is the one in different locations Africa and um Madagascar he's the only one that's found a BRI um he's not the only one I don't know the exact number but so Jeff wise went hard on this guy on the Netflix documentary it's funny because I hated the Netflix documentary before I even like watched or saw these videos just because I thought it was just so terrible especially when Jeff wise was trying to vilify this random ex patriot who was like 60 years old this guy is not a spy and Jeff wise needed him to be a Russian spy because for Jeff wise's story of the playing going to Russia all that debris has to be fake and this is the problem with a lot of some other people stories they need so much of the evidence to be fake uh the only evidence we need to be falsified is the satellite pings after 1840 which is when we think this plane is getting warped out of the sky in the nicobar islands uh and that's that's the difference between some of these people's um narratives out there also any narrative that says that the plane was shot down anywhere basically but especially the ones that say it was shot down like the South China Sea or something like that debris is not get into Africa from those places either uh so all of those those people basically need this debris to have been planted and who else to pin that on than this guy blae Gibson who's just some R random uh American ex Patriot if you don't know what exp patriot means just means like an American that lives overseas uh and I knew when I'm watching Netflix docum just I'm pretty good at a Jud judge of character some of you guys probably are as well I only have to watch this guy for like a couple minutes to know this guy's a genuine guy he's got some Russian plant or anything like that yeah definitely not a Russian plant I so I have not um I was not aware of the videos that you're speaking about um can you just kind of tell me what's in them so I can keep up that h370 videos oh you haven't seen them no we got yeah can we post those somehow uh somebody can go through my profile or something put them into the nest I think I posted them like a week and a half ago or so I'm probably overdue to post them again honestly I usually try to post them every couple weeks but uh one of them is called satellite video airliner and UFOs that's the first one that came out and this is one where people this is the one where people have no idea of what they're even looking at um and what we were able to figure out and deduce and now I think we've got a lot of corroborating evidence is that the military uses Google Earth mixed with uh it may be quick train modeler but let's just say some software that allows them to pull satellite data from the satellites that are in orbit and use their sensor data to like rebuild like a tracking system that they can use and uh I haven't posted this but I also found some evidence that seems to show that they can like log into the system and then like start a project up and like probably pick a location and pick a time and then you know like make a a video based on that what I did find which I thought was really interesting is that there's only five Optical satellites left uh in orbit in the United States uh and yet we probably have what over a hundred or so um so that means that most of our satellites are not Optical we're not looking through satellites anymore we're pulling sensor data this is similar to what NASA does like when NASA sent their probe past Jupiter or I mean not Jupiter but Pluto probably Jupiter too actually they're not optically looking there just they're pulling sensor data and then they're rebuilding an image um and that's most likely how it works nowadays it seem it's more efficient um as well as like a lot of these satellites that are low earth orbit uh they're moving too quickly to be looking down through them that way either um so this satellite video uh both vide show a Boeing uh trip 7 um and they shows it doing a what we think we is an emergency descent SLT turning maneuver like it's going to land in the ocean or something like that the satellite video I think the thing that's amazing about the satellite video is you can actually watch the orientation of the orbs in this perfect 120 degree sinyal pattern which is like an equilateral triangle spinning around the plane right away most people notice like what are they doing they're doing something like doing something with purpose and what we've been able to deduce from that is that they are actually mapping the plane like trying to figure out exactly how big this uh endothermic event this Wormhole if it is actual Wormhole how big it has to be and then after they get about halfway through uh they switch their orientation from mapping the plane to then going into situation they're in a ring formation around the plane and this is potentially because they're getting ready to you know induce this Singularity I'll call it um so the first one that one is interesting because you're tracking the plane and the person has cropped the screen they've cropped out the Drone they this the perspective moves which I think is a very hard detail to fake because this means that if somebody faked this video they faked a giant field of view and then they cropped it why would you do that in a hoax video if you're doing it in a real video because your screen is much bigger like because it's a real tracking system that it makes sense for a hoax video to do more work than you need to and then to crop it afterwards makes very little sense and then the the thermal the Drone video which I technically they're both infrared but these are at least the Drone video is like a multi-spectral camera so it's it's well beyond any type of commercial infrared camera and it's got a thermal layer on it so we can actually tell the the temperatures and this one was definitely filmed for intelligence purposes uh you can there's so much you can glean from just the way the camera operates Ator uses the camera from this we can see accurate Shake uh when the camera Zooms in indicating that we're looking at a real camera there's a lag as well where the operators have struggling to keep the plane in the in the center of the screen or in the field of view uh whereas if it was a hoax video that the plane would just be like in the middle of the screen or on the screen the entire time and we can see heat signatures on the orbs like you can you can tell when you see the heat signatures on the orbs you see this dark cold lines in front of the orbs which is hard to see in the original but if you do color changed versions of it you can very clearly see this black line in front of the orbs and that's what's pulling them forward along it's like some kind of a warp drive creating space in front of them or like a gravity well if you want to think of it like that and these details nobody's ever seen any details like this they've never seen these heat signatures on orbs nobody's ever seen these gravity Wells ever not in any fake video or real video um and I mean when you just look at the plane in the Drone video it's like you're looking at a 100% overlay of MH370 not just a Boeing Tri 7 but like you just put it right over the top of MH370 if you just click on my profile you look at my banner that's MH370 with a drone video superimposed right over the top of it um and you can see it's extremely detailed as well when you look at that uh it has the videos in general when you look at them they have this Aura of like what the hell am I looking at this is crazy you know and um doesn't doesn't stick out like CGI like a lot of stuff does when you look at CGI doesn't have some cheesy feel to it uh and then the Drone video as well the biggest thing is probably when the orbs Converge on the plane uh and this is because everything we're seeing is scientifically accurate it's just not scientifically accurate with like mainstream accepted science uh but when the plane converges it is consistent with kum's law which would state that the electric charge increases exponentially as the distance between two electric forces converge these two OPP or same uh attracting forces um so the idea that if you like you take two magnets and try to jam them together similar idea where the the repulsive Force becomes stronger the closer they get together same kind of idea with kum's law and this is why the orbs converge at the last second as well I think that they're increasing their energy and like a field of energy around the plane so high that it breaks something called the swinger limit which Salvador pz he had to fight with the patent office to convince them that it was even possible to break the Scher limit to get energy densities that are like I think 10 to the 32 or 10 to the 33 extremely big number um and that's what I think is producing The Singularity maybe even producing a gravity wave if you want to think of it like that uh where then this is allowing this plane to like teleport now I'm not talking Star Trek teleport but like like a slingshot slingshot this plane from one place to another like a shortcut in SpaceTime and that's where like you look at that and especially the way that they zoom in the operator does and then zoom out right before the event happens it tells you they were expecting something people say well why isn't this aliens well because we weren't just randomly filming a plane in the middle of the ocean people say well who's filming this and why are they filming this why is there a drone filming this plane that that is a very smart question but there's really only one answer isn't there they didn't randomly CT film This Plane while orbs all of a sudden showed up they this was a planned operation and you can tell from how close the Drone is to the plane that it must a planned operation um and that those orbs must be our orbs there's no little aliens inside those orbs they're when you look at them from the satellite video their movements are too exact it looks like it's something that would be run by a computer program that like or they're being controlled or they have some kind of homing capabilities or something like that uh so my opinion the Drone video is being filmed because they want to give this intelligence back to the engineers that that built these orbs so that people can see how they work plus my opinion at least I think if unless someone can show me another video This is the first and only video that's ever been in the public sphere in public realm that shows any kind of endothermic event which is an absorption of energy that's why it's black and cold in the um drone video it's it's an absorption of energy that nobody's ever seen before Thomas Bearden called it a cold explosion in 1985 and it may also be the first ever Wormhole as well if that is really a wormhole uh and then you could think well that's why you would record it right you want to have that recorded if you have that technology so you can show people and go okay how do we make this better how do we advance this technology so I truly believe just to close this off is that or um finish this thought that those videos the most important videos in the history of humankind um at least from the public realm there might be other crazier stuff out there if they've got this but the most important videos we've ever seen because they prove that uh not only is gravity manipulation possible but SpaceTime manipulation is possible it goes beyond just hover UFOs we're literally talking about being able to create a wormhole here and teleport an object and this also then leads the idea that free energy is possible because if we can produce negative energy like we need in order to be make a wormhole or warp drive according to all conventional science right now then we can also potentially extract unlimited negative energy from the from The Ether itself um and that's how I ended up getting into this idea of free energy in there so I know that's a little bit long-winded but there's your answer on those videos wow that's fascinating um it has my head going 3,000 different directions yeah let me address that real quick too because when I first saw those videos and started to realize that they must be real um just because of all the small details I've never experienced such ontological shock in my whole life like like I said in the beginning of this a year ago I probably wouldn't have believed any of this stuff myself so it actually got to the point I've said this before but I actually I went over to my parents place one night and I went guys is the are you is this Truman Show is The Truman Show happening right now is is Aston coocher Punky me right now is this some elaborate prank that you guys are all in on that you're like hoaxing on me because I couldn't even understand because I follow science and physics and stuff like that and I was just like how is this possible um I expected pretty much anything to happen before this so for the people that do start to come to terms with the I call it the Awakening of realizing that we're getting lied to about some pretty crazy advanced technology is that you have to take it in stride uh is that you have to just kind of like let the information absorb don't try to think too hard about where this all comes from and why Etc because you can kind of drive yourself a little nutty with respect to some of those answers and you have to remember that like even if all this is real even if our universe is like the holographic principle people say simulation whatever it doesn't diminish our lives or anything like that in fact I look at it I go wow this is awesome because this can mean that like we could enter Star Trek age like tomorrow if we could get this technology out so I look at it in a good way yeah yeah I I totally understand what you're saying I it very much I think the word was ontological shock my day at least for our government and having that kind of shock was January 6th because it I it was this moment that I'll I'll never forget on the phone my family's telling me what's going on and that isn't happening in front of my face and some other things and there was a point at which I realized exactly that it was completely it was the corruption is that deep so I might be a step closer to because I fully believe that that what you're telling me is can absolutely be true I know that they have technology that we've paid for for the record um that they keep power with basically and money and all of those other things so um it's not it's not that big of a leap for me to um believe these types of things yeah yeah I kind of want to agree with you there I don't generally try to talk politics too much because I think that this issue should cross political boundaries but I was surprised to find that more people on the right were open to this information than people on the left when I first started because I would have thought that people on the left would be the ones when I was my dumb CNN brain thinking like oh the people on the left are The Logical ones that will come to terms with this information quicker and the people on the right are the the dumb dumb religious people blah blah blah and first of all I want to say is this information has made me more spiritual and religious as I've dug into it but it actually was the exact opposite of what I expected exact opposite it was the people on the left in general not not unequivocally but in general that have a harder time believing that the government would lie to them about something this this huge and the people on the right like you said like you had your own experiences that you know the government's hiding and lying stuff and that they can lie to the whole world and the media will lie to the world and convince people that it was a suicidal pilot that crashed without us tracking it without leaving a debris field and all this other stuff and I had a similar experience as you where for me first thing was probably covid when that started happening and I went I work in healthcare and I don't see people falling over dead everywhere that was a big wakeup call for how people would have this Mass formation psychosis develop and everybody would just start believing something because social media was hyping it up and I'm not to not to diminish Co in general I know that people did die but it wasn't the plague as people as the media would try to convince us it was and then I actually was following all the the BLM riots that happened up until January 6th I would watch all the streams online uh I remember watching January 6 riots and people were telling me while I was watching it like are you watching this this Insurrection happen and I'm like well I'm watching B Alaska call for a pizza from like Nancy Pelosi's office or something like that it doesn't it seems more like a lar than it seems like an Insurrection um and I know people will get very political about that as well but that's also where I realized like whoa you know and then after that they were talking about how many officers died and no officers actually died and all this stuff and you start to realize that the media really does craft a perception of events for people out there and that's what they did with MH370 10 years ago was they crafted a perception of events that was countered all the evidence and that the whole world Aid it up um and that's what I think is the darkest thing about this for me is realizing that the me the United States government controls all the Western media and that they can convince people of basically anything even counter to complete reality that's out there but it's important the last bit I'll say is it's important that we understand that because then we can craft our strategy against it with respect to revealing this information and also helps you understand why it's very difficult to get disclosure from any type of disclosure you're trying to get because you're going against the most powerful propaganda and misinformation apparatus on the entire planet um so just I'm going to tie this real quick to the free energy thing people go well why aren't you open sourcing it you know and I go well what did I just tell you with respect to the misinformation the moment that that's open source you're going to have like 10 people looking at your open source model and going this is fake this doesn't work they're going to say I replicate and it doesn't work and then everybody's going to say that's been debunked I know that because that's exactly what they did with lk99 exactly that um and so for me that's not the approach for me the approach is I know the overunity system works I know the person who's built it and I've seen how it works and been told how it works I'm just going to sell it to people and then people are going to have it and they're going to know it works and they're not suing me because they know it works and eventually it'll hit a critical mass where then people will realize oh this is this is not a joke this is real um so that's my Approach that's why my Approach is not open source although I uh you know support everybody that does want to try to open source it I truly believe that that information's been out there in the public realm and nothing's ever happened with it so we got to try something different so let's that's a great segue um into the free energy because that was one of the questions that you know people have told me they want to ask you is is why don't you open source this because it seems like you know for the benefit of it it would it would benefit all of us if we had equal access to this technology so is your plan to commercialize it and and sell it in the hopes that getting it out there and then the more that it's out there that it will be able to be duplicate excuse me duplicated in the cost brought down to where it's available to more people because if the numbers I heard tossed around for how much one of these devices let's let's say a whole home device would be anywhere from 30 to $60,000 can you confirm that yeah and the nature of it is that we don't really have a set price it's going to really be based on some factors including how much energy people want but yeah you know that's a fair uh assessment I would say and people say well that's a lot of money and I would say is if you look at some of the other uh free energy devices that are out there overun devices that people reported they're going to be much more expensive than that I mean somebody showed me one that was in Africa that was like the size of like multiple portal potties stacked on top of each other uh so devices like that are in the hundreds of thousands of dollars and I don't even know how easily reproducible they are so yeah first of all what i' would say is that a I don't want to open source it because I don't want a million people fake debunking it um and then the other side of it is eventually the information's going to get out there for sure the more you sell it to people eventually somebody's going to squeal break their NDA or put on an anonymous mask and show it on the YouTube or whatever and then it's going to get out there but I want to hit critical mass with people that I think are credible that will speak to the fact that it works before we get to that point so that it can't be suppressed um and this is why the strategy that I worked out with the entity I signed the NDA with when they told me how it worked was to do an alpha roll out where we would select people that we think a you know obviously have the money that that are willing to do it people that are we think are credible that will be um you know quiet about it and not get it out there and adhere to the NDA and then various other factors which I've put out there as well so we're trying something a little bit different um I don't there's no guarantee of it working absolutely uh I also think that there's like maybe like you know the people in the background that know this stuff is real in general maybe they're giving us a you know go ahead and see if you can make it work kind of thing like because they clearly they haven't shut it down yet um but we'll see we'll see how it plays out I also think that the fact people say well why would they partner with you and the answer on that is I've got a big reach you know they've seen me going through the science and I've been told through back channels and sources that you know some of the scientists that are the engineers that are in these private labs are like rooting for me on the background you know uh because they can't talk about a lot of stuff openly do their ndas but if a random person figures it out and has no NDA you know and as long as I'm doing it in not a way that's going to you know threaten the world or threaten you know us defense then you know they're kind of for it I think there's a lot of people out there I think there's Waring factions in the government some of them want to keep it hidden some of them want to get it out this is why disclosure is so tough in the UFO community and um the ones that want to hide it it's pretty tough to stop a guy who's got 140,000 followers where if they were to just disappear it's going to be extremely suspicious it's still possible but tough and then the people that want it out that's a big Boon is that this guy's just putting the information out there so end of the day the way I see it out is pretty much what you said Jonathan which is that we get it in the hands of some people that can afford to buy it early on while the price is still high try to get the prices down uh potentially by having you know scaling up production afterwards if if we don't get shut down uh so that we get more economies of scale and then we can start bringing it to more and more people that can afford it uh while at the same time you know somebody will probably end up leaking it and then from that point hopefully people don't incorrectly build it because if You' watched my uh stream I did with Thomas Bearden who I think is probably one of the most important Engineers of the last 30 years he talks about that it requires tuning for some of these devices as well it's not a situation where like you can just put it together and it's you're going to get to work like you actually have to like set up the I don't know if it's the flux or the fields or whatever it takes for it to be able to produce energy from The Ether correctly so that's my big concern similar to like lk99 where people they were like oh you just mix copper and lead and cook it and then you'll get lk99 but like you have to follow the recipe correctly and a lot of the people didn't follow the recipe correctly and then they didn't get the lk99 results that Korea and China were seeing and that's my concern with this as well is that if it gets out there people are going to follow the recipe incorrectly they're going to claim to have debunked it and then they'll it'll die out again as opposed to going through a source that can produce a correctly that can prove that the device Works um and so the next step for me is to now that I know and I've seen it remotely uh go there in person and do a filming session where we somehow don't show the exact inner workings of the device but show with meters that is actually producing over Unity One thing I was told that I could say U where's my list here is that the prod the device for example has 11 volts in and nine watts in and it's producing 11 volts out and at least 18 maybe up to 21 Watts out which if you guys can do math that's like cop of two or higher um and so to be able to show that and and potentially have devices charging off of it or running off of it so that they can see that and try to figure out a way where we can show it where it's convincing enough so that we can get people on board now last thing I'll say is I've already had a bunch of people reach out either directly uh or through the email and I haven't read all the emails yet but I've gotten over 30 or 40 already for people that are seriously interested that seriously I think do have the money and and want to try it out um and I put out the challenge out there so if there are big YouTubers or podcasters or whatever that want to have their electrical engineer experts look at it that we can prove it to them if they're willing to sign an NDA and some people I think have already seen some criticism oh well I'm a random nobody but you won't let me do it well yeah I mean we literally can't just let every single person do it plus if I let some random nobody see it and you come out and say yeah it's right like who's going to believe you no one the whole point is we need like credible people that have big platforms so that if they they see it and they have to admit that it's real that then there's some level of credibility behind it so if you know anybody out there uh any big podcasters I try to follow the people that were linked to me that have several hundred thousand followers or whatever um let me know if they're interested um because that is a real challenge uh I will say that I am interested however I do not have 30 to $60,000 but I will take one uh if one is available um all joking aside I did post a link to an archived web page uh that goes over several I think about 60 examples of energy technology being suppressed and the methods used to suppress it uh also a link to lk99 which is the room temperature superconductor um what are your thoughts on Malcolm bendle's thunderstorm generator have you done any Research into it oh yeah and I I talked to Malcolm he messaged me earlier today um yeah I'm going to meet him next week actually at Cosmic sumach so shout out to Cosmic sumach and George Howard's thing there I don't know if it's sold out I'm going to try to get some people some virtual passes to watch online uh I'm also going to probably try to bring my camera and record a couple of things it's gonna be tough because I'm not gonna have my computer but I'll try to do my best for you guys um I think the thunderstorm generator is legit I think I was talking to Bob Greener about it uh a couple weeks ago as well the only question is whether or not it's truly an overunity device I think that it absolutely is producing um basically no emissions uh which is huge because at a bare minimum you can hook this up to your car as like a extension or like a downloadable content if you want to think of it for my video game players out there and now your car basically produces zero missions so uh I don't know if it's carbon monoxide I think it's carbon monoxide is the big one versus carbon dioxide I can't remember which one both of them go down a lot but one of them goes down by like 99% um and that's already huge uh you can imagine just for a green energy purpos and then whether or not the plasmoids in there and the configuration he has actually produces over Unity is a separate question but I do believe that plasmoid research is the the secret to Cold Fusion low energy nuclear reactions and I and now I'm sure as well uh my own opinion that this is also requires an ether to be able to achieve overunity from cold fusion um and that I think that they use basically the same underlying science and Concepts and that's probably why that's also been suppressed and difficult to obtain uh so the device that I'm uh promoting though is an electromechanical device it's not based on Plasma Research it's not a fusion uh device or anything like that but I do think that the underlying science is the same and I think that Malcolm bendle's legit he's been on he's been actually on an island in the MDES for like seven years working on this stuff which is wild to me um and apparently he's had some attempts on his life supposedly I don't know that for a fact but that's what I've been heard and um you know I think there there's other stuff going on behind the scenes where people are testing those devices now he's doing it open source as well I believe so like you can see how it's set up and it's it's relatively simple his set up like you can actually like buy those components at like the pet store and stuff like that uh and then the hardest part is just having somebody who can do like metal fabrication to create these like circular Dome inside of a dome at the right ratios um because like one like you think you pump water one way and then the other direction you pump the CO2 or something like that or the the exhaust and that's how kind of the main mechanism works so uh I think that's really cool um and I'm a big supporter of it and I can't wait to see how how it works let's uh if you're okay with it we've got a few requests in the audience I know some people are trying to stay up um are you good with bringing people up now I mean yeah let go nuts man for the record like I'm I'm an open book like one thing about me I think that why people gra towards me is that I pretty much answer every single question as openly and honestly as I can you can tell from my answers that I'm not making stuff up in general uh I think very rarely If Ever I have to say that I I can't say or whatever um so the only thing I can't really speak to respect to the NDA uh because a lot of people have the questions about why I signed the NDA and what it means and the The Entity I signed the NDA with not trying to silence me you know they give me assurances they I just can't speak any specifics about how the device exactly works I can STI gener gener uh speak in generalities about the concepts um and it doesn't stop me from talking about any of the other mh37 Z or gravity stuff that I talk about either so just want to put that out there thanks very much and miss S I apologize I can't make you co-host right now um it's glitchy as hell but uh before we get to the questions um Ashton Doomer Addy Doomer daddy down there in the um uh please mute your mic thank you uh down in the audience wanted me to pass a message that gamech politics had some new Intel for you regarding radar data so he said you uh knew him I'm passing the message along uh so consider the message passed yeah if he's out there listening or anyone knows uh gam Tech I know he's a guy who's seemingly has some connections out there um have him just direct message me and I'll look into that later but thanks dmer Daddy's all rck if I remember correctly yes yes that is rri uh we're gonna go to Connecticut uh kid 82 first and if anyone is disrespectful to the guest you will be removed from the stage so go ahead Connecticut yes sir thank you Jonathan I uh just gave you a follow Ashton thank you for what you've been doing this is very very interesting um I just wanted to ask Ashton he spent any time uh or any effort trying to reach out to Dr Steven Greer I know Dr Steven Greer is kind of trying to focus on the the government aspect of UAP disclosure um but I know he's touched on the overunity tech um I'm just curious if that's something that was on Ashton's radar thank you yeah a great question that's honestly one I get a lot um it's funny because before all this I didn't know what to think of Dr Steven Greer um and the reason why I refer to him as Doctor versus a lot of other people he's literally a medical doctor he was a ER physician um and I'm and worked in healthcare my whole life so I always respect people that work in the healthcare facility or Healthcare um industry and that's why a lot of the nurses that follow me if ever I see a nurse follows me I immediately follow them back because I have the highest levels of respect for those people um I was very skeptical Dr Greer for the same reason a lot of people were around like the C5 stuff and some of the stuff he says about aliens it's kind of like hard to like you know he comes up with his own motivations for the aliens and things like that which could be plausible um but what I've learned is from the technological perspective he's dead on like he's on the money I think the biggest mistake he made was not learning how the science worked himself especially as somebody who's a doctor I feel like he should have dug into it and figured out how it worked himself so when he did interviews he didn't just have to say oh yes and we have these teleportation Technologies and gravity manipulation Technologies then he would actually be able to explain them in detail but a lot of the interviews that I reviewed are actually from Step Greer's archives um where Dr Greer talks with Thomas beard and Paul I think it's size or cheesus I I don't know how to say his last name correctly but the thing that people really should be doing I think and this is goes back to the question earlier about how to get disclosure is like talk to the engineers that are working in the private Labs the ones on the special access programs those are the ones that know what's really going on especially regarding the technology so 100% agree with Dr Greer on the technology side I'm not sure about Ambassador beu andram Galaxy E5 stuff um might be real I I just don't know right yeah that's what I was I was kind of you know focused on the tech aspect of it that's all I was wondering what you thought about that yep thank you yeah but he's solid on the tech stuff and I did uh try to reach out like through intermediaries I am in contact with one of his like he has like ambassadors or something like that he's like ambassador program and one of them does uh direct message me back and forth a little bit and I remember she told me that he had seen that m370 videos he was familiar with them I think that he's more interested in people that are firsthand whistleblowers out there but I also generally see Dr Greer as like a different faction than some of the other people out there like I would put Dr Greer in one faction and then like the Lu alzando camp in a different faction that's out there and L alzando is probably allied with people like you know Jeremy Corbell uh maybe Gary Nolan and I don't know this stuff for a fact I just that's how I kind of see it um and I think a lot of the people in like the soul Foundation are probably more on like the Lando side whereas Dr Greer is kind of on his own Island out there um so I just think it's interesting all these little factions and what have you and for me I'm not I don't want to be allied with any of them honestly as much as I think even Dr Greer is right about the technology I would rather just see the stuff about the technology and see if it corroborates what I've been doing and not tie my wagon to them I've learned my lesson I'm not tying my wagon to anybody after kim.com great question very much question Connecticut kid let's go to from hey thank you um obligatory uh you know I always have to join the spaces and just say guys uh Ashton's not a liar he's not a grifter this technolog is real it's been suppressed for his long as uh as far back as Tesla maybe even longer um I implore everyone to look into some of these scientists and these defense contractors uh definitely Thomas Bearden uh definitely revisit Tesla's work um you know Malcolm bendall is a great suggestion um just a ton of these people and the people who are on the precipice of this information um Ashton absolutely a noble cause I consider you like a hero for really pushing this stuff out I know you wouldn't but um keep doing what you're doing I'll support you the whole way um guys look into this stuff yourselves you don't have to believe us uh it's real it's here we're bringing The Ether back it's it's been misunderstood suppressed um it's really not hard to understand and it's not boring okay dig into scaler physics uh plasma uh plasma physics particle physics um like this stuff is not boring it's literally the most interesting thing you could ever look into um I'll rest my case there you know the the whole videos thing I don't I never put too much weight into it anyways um if there's any debunkers listening get um you know I've had good conversations with some of them thank you for keeping this case alive thank you for making us dig our heels in and really get to the bottom of this um it's just amazing what what's happening right now um and just you know keep paying attention follow Ashton follow Jonathan um we're not done here here this is the beginning so that's all I got to say thank you yeah thanks crom and thanks to everybody else who's been pushing for the information in general um yeah I don't generally consider myself a hero I'm just I'm a normal guy and uh I make mistakes and I'm flawed like all humans that are out there and uh you know I I don't know I hope I I'm able to speak freely about this stuff for a while to come but you know enjoy it while it is for sure where where I can talk about it as freely as I can because who knows what'll ever happen in the future if I ever get that scar Joe clone um but I just want to say that uh you know that like uh crom was saying you know the technology and the science is out there if anything I think what I've done is given like a framework for how people can investigate stuff like this and I would also agree that like the the wildest part is we don't even need the videos anymore because of how much evidence around the missing plane we were able to find as well as all the evidence around the suppressed science it just happens that all that suppressed science and all the evidence around the missing plane coincides with the videos being real as well um and I just think that I I like watching the videos even though I'm glad we did that moment of silence at the beginning because I think it is really important to remember there was 239 people on that plane that I mean we don't know for a fact that they were murdered or killed but they're not around nobody's seen them in 10 years so it's a safe assumption um but you know when I watch those videos especially when I watch like the blue and black uh color change one I mean it's beautiful to watch the the technology the perfect movements um it it is like you're just seeing something that's just incredible so I like to watch them from time to time anyway um that's all thanks crom thanks very much crom let's go to Rolling yeah we're bringing The Ether back hey I just wanted to say it's been a great space I learned quite a bit here but I did join kind of Midway through I wanted to make some remarks about uh some comments I heard earlier about how do we uh kind of force disclosure and you know somebody else said earlier uh people often believe you know the top comments so I just wanted to say to people when you start to see the comments that are relevant to this field you know make sure you like them interact with them and it's a good way that we can kind of force disclosure on that front and I also had a question for Ashton regarding this device um are you going to be doing a demo with it and if you are what's that going to kind of look like yeah great question still trying to figure out exactly how to do it but the biggest problem is we can't show the actual inner workings of the device so that's that's the biggest drawback unfortunately I think no matter what any demo even if we showed the actual device there's going to be people that still won't believe no matter what so the way I imagine is either just blur out the device or cover it up have the the um the readers or whatever the electrical readers that show the out puts and inputs set up on it so that people can see that it's actually producing overunity like I was describing a few minutes ago explaining how there's like nine watts in and 18 Watts out which is like cop of two or greater um to show them people that way um and then for individuals like because again I'm not trying to convince everybody out there so it's like the people that are want to buy it those people we would want to make sure that they feel comfortable and that if they want to see it firsthand they can fly out and and see it firsthand because I mean if you're if you're willing to spend the kind of money to make to get one of these devices then buying a plane ticket for a couple days isn't really going to break the bank uh and then they could see it themselves firsthand and see how it works firsthand as long as they've signed the NDA um and then same thing for like the challenge this is why we're not this is why the challenge is really targeted on people that are big influencers in the electrical engineering space uh because we just we can't have every single person come out and see and have every single person sign an NDA the more people like that we do the more risky it is that everything gets out there um and you may say well what's the downside of it all getting out there you know I think it probably will happen uh but you know it's not my intellectual property to give away and what I tell people too is that um you know would you work for free you know and at the end of the day even if it does get out there the te the technology like that's where I think the problem's going to come in where people are going to say that it can't possibly work it's really just a matter of like people need see it with their own eyes um so that's why we're going about in this controlled fashion related to it if anybody does have ideas on how you can prove it without like actually showing the in working of the device let me know uh that is the thing I'm thinking about probably the most between now and I'm not going to say exactly when I'm going to go out there because I there is some chance of like literally getting disappeared I don't I don't really buy into that too much but I'm not going to exactly like say what my travel plans are to the world um but yeah if you guys have insights onto that DM me or post in the Discord or in my replies or whatever so yeah thanks hey that's a great response uh one one other quick question real quick regarding the device um is I I don't know if you can speak on this or not but is this like the first iteration of this device like Mark one and uh what what do you kind of see like a the endgame being for this device like at its full potential so the device devices have been built to spec so far and over 30 of them have been produced I think they're all based on the same Concepts um and they can be scaled up or down so this is why I don't there's not like a set price for it in the alpha roll out part of the information we be gleaning is where where's the demand for like how much power um and to try to have an idea of like okay if we built a an alpha or like a model mark one exactly what should its configuration and size be um and so for this this uh roll out it's going to be like very customized to each individual's needs built um for each one uh for each person that we you know consult with or what have you and then for the end game the way I see it playing out in Ideal World is that we get you know at least one maybe two electrical engineers uh try to attract the attention of them to be willing to sign the NDA and come and see that it works and that be willing to you know put on their YouTube social media whatever that yes it does work and then to have I don't know I'm just going to throw a number out there like at least 10 people that have buy them and that we produce them for them over the next six months probably uh and that those people then are the early adopters that can also confirm that it actually works so that we could have uh if necessary testimonies from those people and then from there we'll see how it goes then we'll go into the Beta phase or whatever it is and maybe have a specific model and a price point and all the stuff like that and maybe even do investors and try to scale it up um bigger right now I'd say that I'm giv as much information as I can which hopefully helps ease people's mind is that I think that we can produce like two or three at a time or something like that right now um so it's not a situation where it's like one by one but it's not like a ton so that's why we're really vetting down the people to just people that like we can kind of trust related to it and that have the disposable income and are you know excited about this kind of thing I've already had some interest actually in people reaching out so it's cool hey great respons thanks thanks for letting me speak appreciate it thank you for your question uh before we get to El Hefe I did post um a link on archive.org to all of Nicola Tesla's uh published Works uh Declassified military scientific paper abstracts FBI documentation um it's about I think it's at least over a gig um of documents PDFs there is uh one of his books uh the secrets of anti-gravity so check that out there's a lot of like Ashton said this information's out there um it's it's up to us to find it you know find it again and to replicate it so I think um it it would be good the more people that are looking into this the better and as far as how to show the the energy you know the overunity without showing the device what if you just could you show like a multimeter that's on the input showing the input voltage and wattage and then a multimeter on the output and just obscure the rest and show those is that a possibility everyone say well it's two separate devices but yeah what do you think of that idea no that that like actually is what we've talked about um and multimeter that was the word I was looking for multimeter yes multimeter um yeah having one on like either end or however it works to show but then people are still going to say like oh they're hiding a battery in between or something like that's the problem in general with like people that are debunkers is that there's a million excuses infinite number of excuses that people will be able to give um but that's why at the end of the day some people are going to have to take some leap of faith um in terms of you know okay yes I'm I'm convinced um but that's also why we would allow people that are buying them to optionally come see uh the demo model the firsthand and I will say that the demo model is something that I've invested in uh with with the manufacturer with the entity uh that I've had that going uh for several weeks maybe even maybe even up to a couple months we've been planning that out um so this has been there has been machinations behind the scenes before we got to this point it wasn't like this just happened and then I started announcing it we've kind of been planning behind behind the scenes on it uh because we we both thought yeah we need to have a demo model that people can actually see if they want to come and um you know be convinced because all the other ones basically been built ad hoc on demand and they're with people who are clients out there so it's not like we can go to somebody's house and be like hey show me that model I sold you you know and bring people over um so that's the idea too and people also say are you g to have one well technically technically I do because I I I paid in for the demo model um but I'm not going to people coming to my house to uh to see it so uh for the short term I don't have my own running right now but I I would think probably if this goes well then I absolutely will because I want one one other idea is and you know I know people would say that it looks kind of like a magic trick but let's say you're filming an open room and you roll in a opaque barrier and then on the left side you roll in the device and you would have to blur it in uh post so that people couldn't see it uh and then you show the multimeters or multimeters being connected on the right side so that they can see that there's just the one device being brought in I know that there's no perfect way to do it without showing the device but just spitballing some ideas there yeah it's a good idea I actually thought about just blurring it is probably the best way to do it too especially now in 2024 where that's pretty easy to do with um software uh and then I might even be able to figure out how to do that myself even though I'm not really good um because the other way I was just going to put like a a sheet or a cardboard box over or something but that's a little bit more mysterious as opposed to just blurring it and then yeah what I was thinking me what you thought about rolling it in is good I mean I thought about just putting it on an elevated platform so that you can see that there's no excess wires or anything connected to anything else but uh yeah I don't know it's a good recommendation still thinking through it still got a few weeks ago in terms of trying to figure all that out um somebody also mentioned in my chat like just have a live stream on it 24/7 or something like that maybe I'm not too worried about that in general like probably what we'll end up doing is I don't know if we're going to have that configuration be able to be available um but you know have the thing continuously running like a fan or something like that for over a day and then coming back to it to see that it hasn't run out now people of course will say you pulled some movie Magic or whatever but once again we're not trying to convince everybody we just want to have some uh plausible reason to believe that it's real for people that are out there that are doubters but still you know open-minded I guess let's go to L Hefe and then I have a question from the audience and then we'll go to chaotic hey thanks guys a Ashton as a fellow data science analyst nerd in the health care space how in the world did you find the time to research all this and not burn yourself out and what is your uh current job said now that your name is out in The Ether yeah good question man uh you know I I wonder about the burning out thing myself I will say that I've taken a lot more naps than I used to and I just don't have any like free time anymore for anything like even for watching TV I I used to play a lot of video games and I haven't played a video game oh I played a couple here and there people know but um very very very rarely nowadays um so even though I was a nerd now it's like my normal job and then it's been working on this and right now I'm basically working like three different jobs which is like my normal job my social media and then also now this ether Tech uh company all at once which at some point something's got to give um I will say too that uh various people have been like told me like hey you need to make sure that you're rested and your mental Health's good that's the most important thing at this point um and yeah and I just tell them like I'm I'm doing good if I needed a break I I would take it uh my company I did get in trouble for the first time uh last week when I was on that space with the debunkers or whatever because I guess I was technically on my lunch break but and ended up going for like four hours so uh I guess my my influence has gotten so big now that people are noticing at work so I didn't lose my job which is nice but uh that's the reason why you guys didn't see any posts for me mainly during the day except around my lunch break where I made a couple quick posts was because I I definitely needed to make sure that I was you know making sure I hit all my obligations at work um because I am trying to keep my job as long as possible if this you know free energy device thing this ether Tech thing works out then obviously I would be able to make the jump um but until that happens uh you know probably not going to happen and also I'm not uh I really don't want to like try to be predatory with respect to the ether Tech thing like I want to take it in stride and you know the reason why the stuff costs so much is because it literally is just that expensive to make unfortunately at this point um so I'm not trying to like you know rip people off from that kind of thing um which is what would be required probably for me to be able to quit my job even if like 10 of these devices sell you know between me and the other entity it's it's still not going to be like the kind of money that I make at my normal job um so yeah I will say lastly is that it is kind of stressful a little bit to think about like well if I lose my job how am I going to make ends me the benefit is that my social media has gotten big enough now where I wouldn't be making I would I'd be making just like a fraction of the that I make in my normal job but I could live off of it like frugally but I could survive so that does make me feel like a little bit more comfortable in general but yeah just a heads up people think you make a lot of money off Twitter you you really don't um you know if you even if you get millions and millions and millions of views like I'm pushing like 10 million views a week or something like that uh you still make probably less than you would make if you worked at like a minimum wage job so it's uh it's not as glamorous as people make it out to be although it is you know I would say I am blessed and um uh privileged to be in a position where so many people are interested in what I have to say all right thanks man appreciate it and uh do you have any just quick tips and tricks in researching because you were able to put a lot of things together a short amount of time so do you is there any tips yeah you're breaking up but I think I got youare us yeah I mean the first thing would be just kind of pace yourself now with the MH370 situation where it was a unique situation where there was this bulk of information that was out there already um and like I mentioned on a lot of my live streams I've got like over a hundred tabs open or 100 windows open related to stuff that i' I've seen I I can't even catch up I get more and more I that I find that I can actually close out and post so I've got content for like the next year or so out there um and with ad 27 zero stuff like it was there was so much I couldn't even believe how much stuff that we found that was out there so that's why you don't even see me like retweeting a lot of stuff of my older content because there just so much um and then when it came to the science side of it uh yeah there's also I've been reading like two or three scientific papers every night and uh that's helped me catch up a lot on a lot of the scientific Concepts and it really need to start at the beginning with a lot of that stuff but just kind of take it in stride and with respect to like how to approach social media uh I follow this guy Alex Flynn who gave me some tips and stuff like don't spam hashtags don't spam at adding people like minimum maximum never more than two hashtags never more than two ATS make your content pop out to people so one thing I I'll criticize Nim uh harim I think his last name is you know he's a guy who I think is understands the science but when I read his content it's just like one fat paragraph that's like a page long like just don't be afraid to hit the enter key you know and separate your thoughts a little bit um and you know be uh be kind of exciting don't be afraid to ask questions as well uh but don't engagement Farm in terms of just like your thing being like so you guys think the aliens are real you know like you know be it something that's a little bit original out there uh and then and with respect to presenting the content as well like I always try to add images or a video for almost every post I make it's not required but I find that that helps to engage people so you'll find especially in a lot of my research usually there's at least one and a lot of times four different images I which is the maximum number you can post uh so that people can actually see the images and stuff and I think that all of those factors are the reason why my content has such a high percentage of Engagement compared to other people that have similar numbers of followers um and that's you know you got to know how to play the game when it comes to social media to how to get your message out there and this is the reason why people uh like the like the entity wants to partner with me is that a I I break down the content for the Layman as well like I take the scientific Concepts and try to explain it in normal terms uh I try not to be very rose I try not to repeat any of my stuff I try to keep all my my video content very streamlined like I have little scripts that I do for my content when I post it out there my clips that I take and I edit them down um so that you know I just think about like when I want to read something what do I want to see so um yeah that's pretty much what I would say on that front uh I don't have any special tips in terms of how to search for Content uh honestly this is where MH 370x has come into play and they've post a lot of the stuff that's out there sometimes I find other people's stuff on Twitter and what have you people tag me and stuff um so yeah just keep your eyes open really thanks very much for the question L Hefe and I want to add my own response because there's some interesting synchronicities in there uh so fun fact I used to work for Nim haramain I was his it manager and later project manager that's about all I can say because I am under NDA I no longer work there um but yeah that's I haven't heard his name come up since I've been on X and that's just really um quite a funny coincidence whoa that's weird that's cool though so yeah this mean right yeah I forgot I sorry butcher's last name but that's interesting that you're under NDA with him and his content out of all the people I've seen out there is probably most closely aligned with what I think is the real science out there if I had to criticize um which I I'm not trying to necessarily put them down in any way but I think that where a lot of people get lost is when you start trying to connect a lot of the esoteric Concepts and I'm not even saying it's wrong but even when you start to dig into Consciousness like if I'm trying to get to technology out there I just want to focus on the tech and the hard science and that's been my path um so I think then once you start trying to come a lot of people try to connect to remote viewing which there definitely is a connection you know if like there's an ether and all points in space and time are connected then it does open the door to the idea of uh remote viewing but what I like to tell people too and also like stuff like sacred geometry like you know sacred geometry can be the answer for Malcolm bendle's thunderstorm generator and stuff like that end of the day though to me does it really matter what the foundation is for it I just want to know that it works and you have to kind of I think of it like building a house and building your way up like start at the bottom with the hard concept the hard scientific Concepts and work your way up towards the other ones and try not to dilute uh your message because the more that you uh try to link to a lot of that stuff the more you open yourself up to criticism and the last thing I would say is that if you look at what Terence Howard did on Joe Rogan like he opened a lot of people's minds up but he also then opened himself up to criticism where people were attacking 1 Time 1 equals 2 they always look for the weakest link in whatever you say so they attack him on the 1 Time 1 equals 2 the numerology stuff they attacked him on the periodic table stuff as well but they didn't really attack him on The Ether stuff they didn't really attack him on phase conjugation um so just keep that in mind if you're somebody out there who's really trying to wake people up uh great um great points and yeah mentioning the NDA you know I signed one was hired so it's it's still in effect um essenti I need to get a copy of it though anyway uh as far as the research goes I would recommend a tool called obsidian obsidian MD is the website uh it's like an open source version of notion and I like it because it's all offline uh so it's all text documents that you can link together and you can visualize your notes and see the links between them you can add media uh you can also set it up with something like Dropbox or I use uh a sync uh I think it's sync trayor which is an open-source um syncing tool so you can sync it between your devices as well there's a mobile app uh so great research tool to take notes and then see the connections between them um also the algorithm stuff uh you mentioned Alex Finn I also discuss the algorithm on my spaces occasionally so if uh you're not already following me I would appreciate it if you like X algorithm content um or I also have an X analytics website that I built it's in my profile ex elizer XL YZ er.com uh right now it's free you can download your CSV of your post from analytics. twitter.com upload them to my site and I've got a lot more um feature packed visualizations you can see who you respond to the most for example um see when your posts do what time they do uh the most Impressions uh and Ashton if you are burning the candle at both ends like I am then I hope it is a carusel Candle Company candle um if it's not then you can purchase one for about $25 on Caruso candles.com link also in the bio it is hard to to make money on social media so you got to plug occasionally um with that being said real quick I wanted to say that um the obsidian thing as well as what uh Ian Carol told me that he was using which when I saw it I was very impressed so I might move to that because guys if you want to know my secret I literally just been using notepad I literally just use notepad and a bunch of notepads up and then I just put like little Links at least notepad Plus+ do you know notepad plus just straight up notepad guys and I have a folder that's got all my little notepads sa so guys I when people think that like I made the videos I'm I just start laughing cuz I'm like guys a I don't even know how to edit a video until like I started trying to edit my own clips and I use notepad out here guys so it's uh I'm low like I'm a boomer when it comes to technology guys at least when it comes to computer technology okay as an as an IT person you're hurting my heart right now we need to talk later um let's go to chaotic before I get to the audience questions hey guys can y'all hear me okay yep you sound great I had to I had to step outside for a second I just got done making a cash roll so I've been Milling about listening to this and I'm a little disappointed to hear that Ashton's not going to hook up this anti-gravity machine he has to a bounty castle and invite us all over to sleepover I was promised that explicitly and now I'm incredibly disappointed and I might even file a lawsuit you've been Debon just kidding I'm so I'm so sorry I'm so sorry goodness a real one not a pretend one like all of my other best ideas what if we hooked this up to to a crypto mining rig and allowed people to watch it progressively mine crypto in real time through the blockchain on a wallet yes yeah no I think the bouncy castle thing is probably the best idea honestly maybe I we I'm not turning you down I'm just I'm gonna you know what I'm just going to throw it all against the wall and see what sticks I'm cooking up like spaghetti and tonight in this in this space we we can do it all man let's do it all yeah the um biggest dream first thing that sounds great actually um but yeah the first thing is this device is not powerful enough to lose weight and become anti-g gravitic I know a lot of people that look into free energy devices uh you know they argue that they actually they lose weight and that there is I do believe there is connection between uh overunity devices and anti-gravity but you have to it has to be much much more powerful to be begin to get those types of effects and also this means like you're not going to have like SpaceTime distortions in your house with this device which I think it's good I don't think anyone wants that out there although I got enough of that going on already man I don't need any extra um but yeah in terms of uh you know what was the other thing about hooking it up oh yeah to the crypto mining stuff uh I I do Wonder like what's the implications of this type of device on crypto mining what's this type of implications on database FS um I had the opportunity to I don't think this is breaking anything it's long ago enough that I don't think it matters but I did a tour of um switch Communications which is one of the largest uh commercial database Farms I think one of their clients used to be like PlayStation Network for example and it was just a giant Warehouse filled with computers and they the biggest thing is like how do you power all of that and so you can imagine if you had a giant or multiple overunity devices like you can imagine what that can mean for the internet in general because now you're not dependent upon power you know you can have your power lines go out and your your network still up you know it's pretty cool to think about uh and then what would that do for crypto minding you could have a bunch of computers that are all mining crypto is that going to crash the price of crypto uh I don't think it necessarily will but it probably have an impact and then who's saying it's GNA crash anything uhuh no no no no no you always got gme guys you got G help you um I'm saying basically it's a license to print money at that point on a self fund that's how you do it use them things to mind crypto man I think some people who are entrepreneurial will think of ways to to do that the levels of power we're dealing with that are probably smaller than that I mean you can build this device up to actually be able to do those types of scales if you want but the ones that we are currently working with are more of like just powering your house which yeah you can power a few computers off of it but you're not powering a whole database Farm off of it um the other no man I just need something that can power eight uh graphics cards eight Graphics oh okay yeah I forgot you can just do it based on graphic so yeah maybe you can off man let's let's look up let's figure this out I feel like this is this is the way um and I did talk to the the NCD about it and we're not super eager on reaching out to businesses at this point but that will become a thing and I don't know it doesn't mean we're not ruling them out but it may become a thing um the other side of it too is that the other businesses I think would be interesting is the the marijuana growing operations because they use a lot of lights I guess um that seems interesting as well and they might be cashr um so that could be another market so from a business perspective it's fun to think about these types of ideas that are out there and that's why I think that there's definitely a market here there's definitely an industry and right now I think what we're just trying to secure his like first mover advantage and then presumably people might even find better ways to produce over Unity for cheaper and I hope they do if they do I'm not going to feel bad about going out of business because somebody did it better uh I think that'll be great if that happens um and but yeah and then eventually it'll leak out how the device works and get out into the public and people will start trying to reproduce them and hopefully they won't mess up because then people are going to claim that it's all some big scam um so we'll see how it goes but thanks K good also I like your content I still can't tell if chotic Goods content is like AI generated or or what's going on with it but she seems fine I guess I figured that's the point right yeah he like you're blurring the lines between reality and fiction a long time accuse me of being a rogue sentient AI or a time traveling space pirate I you guys not hot takes has the screenshot thanks so much chaotic uh and before we get to uh the next hand I've got a couple questions uh from people who were not able B to request up this one came uh via DM from nwabia uh also is making a awesome uh UAP uh based video game you guys should check out in his profile uh his question for Ashton in the video right before the plane flashes out with the three drones you can see they're spinning aligned at the halfway point of the plane then they all vanish the Heat Signature footage shows they're leaving a cold trail behind them do you think the drones have on board Zero Point Energy do you think they're just used as scanners or Telemetry for a larger remote installation to warp the plane that's a great question and that's what's so amazing about the orbs I think they're all of the above I think they're able to map the plane I think that they have Zero Point Energy on board um whether or not that's cold fusion they're definitely extracting energy from the environment somehow um and then they're also able to produce the the dark line is actually in front of the orbs when you look very closely it only looks like it's behind them because they're moving so fast as that the dark line then moves behind them it actually dissipates pretty quickly if you look closely it's very hard to tell because you can only see it in the Drone video and the and the camera operator keeping focus on the plane um but it's definitely in front of the orbs and then there's also potentially a different effect where they're inducing The Singularity and the reason why I say it's potentially a different effect is that you can actually still see let's call it the geodesic the gravity well uh in front of the orbs even after the plane disappears for a brief second you can still see the line still there which says that even until the last moment they were creating the geodesic in front of them potentially even while they were right before starting to converge so there's like multiple different effects going on here at once and that's why I think that these orbs are very Advanced and why when people first look at them most people's thought is that's got to be alien technology it's just it seems magical to us but once you start to dig into the science around it you start to realize like no all these components do exist they are in Black projects it's a matter of putting all the pieces together to into whatever the orb is and I think it's a smaller object inside that's creating a plasma field around it um and so you know that's where it's wild because I remember the first week or so I was sitting there thinking this technology is alien technology it's a thousand years more advanc than we are and then after I had dug into all the science around it I was like wait we actually can have this and then for me it's just a question of like how long have we been hiding this to develop it to the point where we have like to call them floaty orbs that are out there because I imagine when you look at Thomas beard and stuff it started with like radar dishes that would shoot up and then have their scaler beams cross and create an interference pattern which would allow for these similar type of effects like a directed energy weapon or a cold explosion an endothermic event and then after that the next iteration would you be you would put those weapons on satellites and then your satellite would be aimed downward and you would create the same interference pattern but from satellites aiming downward um and then the benefit there is you have a wider field of view uh where you can have this cross the streams at a bit bigger distance and a bigger range and then after that the next best thing is well you turn it into some kind of mobile platform and what's better a mobile platform than some floaty orbs that can just circle around an airliner or a boat or really anything you want to disappear and then just have it poof away I truly believe this technology goes back to the Philadelphia Experiment the more I dug into the history and I you guys probably know more about UFO stuff than I do in terms of the history but the Philadelphia Experiment project rainbow stuck out like a sore thumb I mean you've got all the smartest scientists are linked to that Thomas T brown Einstein Tesla they're all linked to it and there's this connection between like uh disappearing and en cloaking something and teleportation or bending SpaceTime where it's like if you remove all the electromagnetic waves like imagine we're in a sea of electromagnetic waves we just don't see them imagine moving all those electromagnetic waves away from a certain area like what's left I would argue what's left is the fabric of SpaceTime The Ether of SpaceTime and perhaps that's exactly how you create a wormholes you just bend everything away from a certain point and now you get this this Wormhole or you get a gravitational effect or something like that so I think that when we were trying to cloak the what is it the um the eldrich I think that we accidentally bent space around it and that we didn't do it in the right way and that's what caused it to have this weird time dilation type effect and potentially get a bunch of people sick and maybe even kill a bunch of the people on board and then it was the 40s 1943 so it was super easy to cover up because there was like no video of it or anything like that all you had to do is silence a couple people and the people that talk No One Believes them anyway so that's my personal opinion but um that's where like you know I just think it's it's pretty wild to dig into the history and figure out like H how long have we been hiding this kind of stuff you know and where did it come from I I truly don't know I I wanted to chime in here real quick you mentioned the Philadelphia Experiment and all that uh and it also ties into the plane as well um I I pait that the uh orbs were uh detecting matter to this place and uh it went to a parallel reality I mean that's my theory and that's what I think uh happened with the uh Phil Delphia experiment as well yeah yeah and the only reason why I don't think it necessarily went to a parallel reality is because the phones were ringing uh the pass the families were adamant that they wanted the people look into the fact the phones were ringing and a bunch of Islanders on an island in the MDES saw the plane in the early morning hours um and then that that that debris read that they found I think is from MH370 I just don't think it means the plane crashed I think that you could have just disassembled the plane and thrown some in the water at die Garcia or or it could have burnt off the plane um from a fire event and not caused it to crash um so those are the main reasons why I don't think that's the case but I do wonder and I of course I can't know I mean people ask me like where' the plane go I'm like guys I'm not I'm not actually psychic so I can just tell you what we SE in two videos and the crowberry and evidence but after that it's like you know it's just educating guesses um but I would say that there's a pretty good chance of there being some type of time dilation effect that's going on you could even argue when you look especially at a conventional quantum physics that's got on the last few years that you could even like potentially trap light which opens the door this idea of like super position where the plane might disappear at one point and then you can like release it later on at a different point and then everybody goes well manifest manifest or you know lost in these other shows where the plane appears later but uh if anything in this case I think the time dilation effect wouldn't be super long like I'm imagining at the most a couple hours but again just speculation so uh last thing I want to say is that I'm happy for anyone to believe whatever they want to believe about the videos in general so long as people just don't um misstate my personal opinions on it because I get enough people that are like Ashton thinks that aliens warp the plane to the Zen new dimension and stuff like that where I'm like no I'm like the evidence says that you know it it was our technology and that it was a wormhole but that the plane you know show showed up somewhere near the malds and and what have you and it's important because I want people to to that are Normy people to take the case uh seriously and not misrepresent my opinions yeah yeah absolutely we we know something happened and this this is an excellent conversation to have and it's the only way we're going to figure out what actually did happen is by discussing it so you're doing great work I just wanted to chime in about the Philadelphia Experiment and my own crazy theories thank you appreciate you man thanks very much we've got a couple more questions I've got one more from the comments uh two people on stage and then we are probably going to be wrapping up so if you do have a question and want to come up now is the time um so Ashton are you good for a couple more yeah yeah let's do those last questions sounds good all right uh so the next question is from arugula um and I had it pulled up and then there are speakers so just a minute here what is there to say about the research involving wspr data that Richard Godfrey has been publicizing uh the whisper data The Whisper report was probably uh one of the first reports that I read um because I was early on thinking this plane crashed in the South Indian Ocean like all the narratives it said so it actually took me a minute to realize that that was all just a big lie uh and the thing I I used to tell people a lot I used to talk about the whisper port a lot in the early days um and it's funny because you can just tell right away I was skeptical about the whisper report The Whisper report up until the area where we think the videoos happen in the nicobar islands is is pretty legit because it mostly just uses the radar data so we have really good corroborating data the pings and the radar data say this plane went near the nicobar islands um but after that the whisper route gets really weird in fact it gets weird when it first gets into the malaka Straits because the whisper report basically says that the plane overlapped with UAE 343 uh which is another airliner United Emirates airliner which the United AES Emirates airliner would have seen it if it's going past a Boeing Triple 7 but they talked to those pilots and those Pilots didn't see the plane um so right there people should start become skeptical and then the whisper report claims that the plane like huged the coast of IND India and went around it and it claims it did that to avoid radar that makes no sense at all that's not how planes work planes don't like hug coasts that's they're not on the ground and also that's not how you avoid Radar Radar extends way out into the ocean so there's already some big red flags in Richard Godfrey's whisper report and then you have to keep in mind that using these ham radio signals is like trying to track somebody in a white shirt in a in like the state fair or in a crowd of people with white shirts on and how easy it is to mist track that person next thing you know you're tracking the wrong person they're just piecing together these ham radio signals and the person that developed the whisper analysis says that he's on record saying it literally cannot be used to track planes the way Richard godfre is trying to do that which should be pretty much a death blow to the analysis when the person who developed it says it doesn't work the way the person's trying to use it uh seems like wishful thinking at that point um but even more after this plane supposedly gets past Indonesia and starts flying south and Richard Godfrey's got it doing a cut back to the west and he even puts like weird fanfiction in there where he says in his report and I'm probably one of the only people actually read all 300 pages of this report I stayed up all night one time and uh it says like he cut did a sharp cut back to see if anyone was behind him I'm like wa how are you inferring this from some radio pings uh and then right after that all of a sudden he just has the plane doing a 22 minute holding pattern and obviously the reason why he put the holding pattern in there is you couldn't find any radio pings that like fit with the plane continuing to fly somewhere um and he was basically trying to fit these radio pings in with the SAT imrat pings and the known capabilities of a Boeing trip 7 to make it work and so this is already you start to get a lot of confirmation bias at play here when you do this type of stuff the only reason why I was even on board at all with it is because he had the plane like targeting a bunch of different airports while it was in the South Indian Ocean or flying down through the South Indian Ocean and I thought oh well if this plane is desperately looking for somewhere to land that would make sense you would Target a bunch of different airports but once I found out that the end the videos happen in nicobar islands and that there's this weird anomaly in the imrat data right at 1840 UTC where the data is just like becomes very sparse all of a sudden for the next five hours for like no reason uh and then I found out that whisper can't really even be used to track planes uh that's when I was all out on the Richard Godfrey stuff I would say Richard Godfrey bless his soul doesn't have any credibility when it comes to trying to find the plane in terms of MH370 the other person that I would kind of poo poo on is this guy Larry Vance who you'll find some reports about British analysis knows exactly what happened to the plane and he went on with Ross kohart uh it was him and and Florence dangi and you can just listen to this guy he has no credibility like he's already coming out there saying I know exactly what happened in the plane and I know all of this because I looked at the flapper on and I was able to infer based on the tear and the flapper on all this information that you couldn't possibly know about the Pilot's mindset and all this stuff and knowing that it was a suicidal pilot and the biggest red flag in any community no matter if it's investigators UFO or whatever is when people claim to have unknowable information um versus when I try to do my evidence-based research I say here's what the evidence is this is the story the evidence tells as opposed to saying I know what happened and why the pilot did this and this uh inferring based on how this fla Ron was torn that it means that all of this stuff must have happened uh that's unknowable information and when you do that that damages your credibility and you can tell based on how flustered the Larry Vance guy got with Ross uh Ross actually asked him about the fire scenario which I thought was funny because I told Ross to ask people about the fire scenario and I think that's why he asked him and he completely dodged the question he wouldn't even answer it it was very weird so um that's my long-winded answer in terms of the whisper report uh some of the other investigators that are out there a good question I'm glad people ask about that thanks very much let's go to all things unexplained hey thanks I appreciate the space um I want to preface my question by saying that we should always treat this subject with respect because this is real life tragedy and uh our thoughts and prayers are always anytime we speak about this with the families that were affected by the this tragedy um ason we were recently reviewing the Reddit whistleblower disclosure that happened a few weeks ago and we had this Epiphany um when we were going over part of it and in part of it the Whistleblower says Additionally the algorithm accounts for the Craft's place and time I don't think this means that the craft time travels in the way we think they can but rather go so fast that they experience dilation and can hit objects in the future and potentially in the past at their target destination it's possible they do this on purpose sometimes and we were instantly like wow we had two thoughts one the space shuttle and two image 370 I wondered if you were aware of this statement in the Reddit whistleblower disclosure what do you think about it a really really good question and first thing on the families I want to point out too is that no families have ever reached out to me and basically every family out there is on record saying they think there's a conspiracy I play Sarah who is the girlfriend of Philip wood the only adult American passenger basically has said on the record she thinks the plane was abducted now she's not talking about aliens she's talking about like bu another country um and so it's funny because a lot of people say oh well don't you think you're hurting the families when I go if you've listened to what families have actually said then you would think the exact opposite like the families know there's a cover up at play here um and that should have been the most telling thing is the people that are the most invested it think that there's a cover up they don't believe the story of the pilot suicide narrative they think it's all because they're smart enough know planes don't crash in the ocean without leaving debris Fields um now fact the Reddit whistleblower thing um I did have a very credible Source tell me that that was real now people may say hey didn't you say this thing about some um uh the Eisenhower and your source told you blah blah blah that it had been sunk and you were wrong about it um that was a different source that was a source that I first time i' ever heard anything from them I thought they were credible might be wrong not sure uh my source on the Reddit whistle blower thing is Rock Solid never let me down on anything before and uh they told me that that is very accurate doesn't mean that every single detail is but that that person was basically who they say they were um and I found that very interesting because I didn't really give it the time of day at first and then I went back and read it again and I was like whoa and it by the way I think that got deleted uh off Reddit as well that was one of the examples I was giving earlier on um and and generally when those things get deleted off Reddit you want to pay extra attention them we have a copy of it by the way if anybody interested yeah yeah make sure you guys spread that around I I have it on my Twitter profil as well whenever I see stuff get deleted that's when I'm posting it for sure um and yeah there was a few aspects of it that I thought were really interesting one of them was that class some some of this technology is so secret that they don't even classify it because if just going through the classification process opens it up to too many eyeballs and I thought that was interesting it made a lot of sense especially around maybe the technology we've seen that M 370 videos is that that technology might be so secret that they don't even classify it and that could explain where like Edward C Lyn the guy I think that leaked it he might not even known what he was looking at when he leaked it and then they have to come back and say like no you damag National security were going to put you in prison for that because that was our technology when he thought maybe he thought that aliens Za a plane he was like I'm going to show the world that aliens Zapped a plane uh and that would be super awkward and then they have to classify it after the fact because somebody just revealed it to the World um I think that might be actually what happened with respect to your I think it was like how they navigate the UFOs or what have you I thought that was really interesting about the DJ or it starts with a d uh analysis but basically like taking three-dimensional space and adding the time Dimension to your navigational system which seems like that would be necessary if you are obtaining super luminal speeds because yes there is going to be even approaching the speed of light you're going to have a time dilation effect where for you you might travel to Alpha centuri and you might show up there minutes later but from your time perspective but for the perspective that people when you show up it's four years later because it's four light years away um um and then you could see then why you would need something like that because in those four years for you it's instantaneous but for those four years that are passing stuff has moved around a lot because time is just motion through space through distance um and that's where stuff gets really weird so there's also some other interesting stuff in there I'm trying to think like one thing was that I think that's the one that said if you say the name of the organization that could get you killed and they were afraid of saying that and that it's like all in private private this is why the UAP disclosure stuff is going to yield nothing like I'm going to give you guys a spoiler I think the news the last couple days was they're going to pass this bill that's going to force the government to reveal everything it knows about UFOs the government's going to come out and say they don't have anything and they're not going to be lying because they don't because they put it all with the defense contractors and that's what Shields all the good stuff away from them um and that's why unfortunately like I think that a lot of this stuff is a show I have it on really good authority that people like Chuck SCH and um Marco Rubio all the people that are in the int Senate intelligence committee they know about this stuff and they know that it's like being used as a arms race and a weapons race and these people are smart enough to not talk about it publicly and not talk about it on CNN and what have you um and that's why unfortunately I think that the disclosure that we get from the public perspective is all a big show where it's not meant to be successful it's meant to satiate the people that want there to be the next thing to come out and a lot of the UFO Community is just happy with give me the next thing I just want another bite you know versus me I'm like no I don't want any Next Bite I'm just ripping the whole Band-Aid off I'm just going to tell you all the crazy that we got going on that's out there um and I don't and I want to get us to Star Trek realm like tomorrow not like a hundred years from now um so there you go we'll see how plays out but once again like I promote I support everybody who's honestly trying to get to the truth uh so hope that stuff works out I just don't have any hope for it thanks very much and if you have a link to that handy go ahead and share it up in the Jumbotron I've got the post copied and pasted into obsidian which I linked um earlier but and that's a free tool you know I'm not promoting that for any reason except I think it's super useful um Ashton I also linked to notepad Plus+ if you're if you do nothing else at least look into notepad++ because it adds tabs along with a lot of other things um great tool so also free also open source I'll have to look into it yeah it's it's I mean lifechanging I'm gonna link The Whistleblower thing in the in the pill even though I know we're not going for much longer but I did find my post about it where it was so long I had to actually do two posts uh I'm going to post that up there right now for you guys though so you can check it out if you are interested it's a really read but a lot of these reads are really long people are like just spilling the beans out there um interesting stuff yeah and Jonathan we should make sure everything's in the actual pill down below so that how I share this when people relisten to it they have access to it to the information excellent yes I've posted most of the stuff down there um but we'll try and get everything else uh down there as well in the comments let's go to uh we are going to be wrapping up very shortly probably after this last question uh let's go to Robert E um and I believe uh he also has some information related to The Philadelphia experient Experiment I don't know yeah if you're familiar with Al belck have you ever heard of him yeah funny you mentioned him um I was talking to Tim Ventura Tim Ventura talks to a lot of these engineers and I had watched there's like a 4-Hour interview with Al Beck I only got through like an hour and 20 minutes I'd already decided the guy's definitely legit definitely knows it like way personal friends with him for about two or three years back7 years ago I want to hear your opinion uh we attended the same Meeting House on every Wednesday for about about two and a half three years and I was his personal mechanic at his house and the guy would tell stories about the Philadelphia Experiment but the one that really sticks out the most is how it all went down and he talked about people wailing were alive that were embedded in the ship's Hall but the one guy that came off was having a panic attack they thought he was having a heart attack at first checked him out he was okay as soon as they got him stabilized they radioed out that there was a Survivor and a helicopter and guys in suits and glasses picked him up and that was it but Al was over to hear able to over hear that what they saw wasn't what we see here like they were in a different dimension it was completely different interesting and he mentioned uh doing a lot of work for the government in the 50s early 50s him and a friend that he was partnered with there was another Electronics guy from the military uh supposedly came up with an Impulse drive and that was when his name was changed to Al and his wife and two sons disappeared that at the same time and he was relocated but Al did come off as a really legit guy in person now I hear like wfil said that he was involved in the mon talk experiment that sounded a little out of character but of course I'm meeting the guy years later people change over the years yeah that's interesting I wouldn't surprise me if some of the stuff was disinformation against him to try to discredit him as well especially if he was actually connected to the Philadelphia Experiment it's hard to say right guy just he was just legitly intelligent uh I'd seen some of his notes he was definitely advanced in physics uh my stepdad that I grew up with for a few years would worked at Los Almos Laboratories so I was familiar with seeing serious calculations and he definitely had the skills there was no doubt yeah that and then from when I listen to him too he's no question intelligent guy and he feels like he's speaking off the cuff when when you listen to the interview where he talks about the Philadelphia Experiment which is why like I I think I'm a pretty good judge character I that's why I believe that that experiment really did happen um the only thing I would say is that and this is overall with respect to UF I think there's been this focus on this interdimensional aspect and my gut tells me again this is just my gut so take it with a big grain of salt that this is a bit of misdirection because you could I think the the idea of the SpaceTime ether represents another dimension and so you could argue that a lot of this technology like space warping technology Wormhole stuff is another dimensional aspect but at least from what I've looked into it it's not really like a place where you go hang out in the extra Dimension now I think it can still be consistent with what albc said about the Philadelphia Experiment because if you're inside that Wormhole if you're inside that time dilation bubble it's going to feel like you are in an extra Dimension relative to what's going on in the outside um so that's where I think though that and it the reason why I'm skeptical about the whole extra Dimension and the aliens coming from the extra Dimension is that it's a really good way to tell the truth while also lying distracting away from the stuff that's like important because it distracts away from the technology aspect and gets into this woo area where people then say oh well the aliens are coming from this extra Dimension and they're watching us whatever now I could be wrong and maybe it is um but it I don't know just it feels a little bit weird to me so we'll see that's all I would say just be cautious about those narratives that are out there we really don't know and if you look at the list of all the non-human intelligence answers the list is so long that uh I couldn't believe how big it was it at least like 40 different options that are out there so I let's just keep open-minded and again focusing on technology and my opinion is the way to get to disclosure that everybody wants thanks so much Robert and I also posted a link to Alfred bick's website b.com ble k.com uh we are wrapping up folks so I apologize uh to any requests we're not bringing any more people up we're not going to do any more questions the Jonathan Caruso show is Fridays 8:00 P.M Eastern to 10 p.m. Eastern or a little past and we are that little past so Ashton before I close this out do you have any parting words for us I just as usual I want to thank everybody out there whether or not I'm right or wrong about everything I hope people understand that I'm not a liar I've done my best to be as transparent as honest as possible about the investigation everything I've looked into and the whole free energy stuff I can see why it could be very hard for people on the outside to believe I face value and I'm not really asking anybody to do that I want to thank MH 370x all the investigators that have dug into this all the people that have been watching and following along keeping this thing alive keeping it going and I want to thank you Jonathan for having me on to talk to me about this I appreciate this conversation I think it's been great thank you so much Miss s any parting words uh just to thank Ashton so much it's been a fascinating space and um I I'm hoping that trusting each other becomes um more in par with reality and real life here on X because we're able to connect just as human beings and and believe each other so thanks so much Ashton Ashton sorry thanks Jonathan yeah follow everybody that's up here on the speaker panel as well guys a lot of really good discussion that we had and you know I think this is the way that we can help get to the truth as we have open conversations like this um where all the information just gets out there thanks very much and again thank you for the interview I am going to mute the stay I think he just muted himself did he just mute himself I think he muted himself and he didn't know is he on a second account is that what's going on oh yeah yeah he didn't he he muted himself he doesn't realize I can you you guys can't hear I think he muted himself and he doesn't realize he muted himself I'm pretty sure he's talking and he hases no idea okay guys well while we're waiting for Jonathan to figure out he's like probably doing a closing thing right now and nobody can hear him um Jonathan there you go are you there I think you muted yourself Jonathan ether took him the Globes where are youn he definitely muted himself that was the best punking ever Jonathan he went away again wow we appreciate everybody coming by yeah and I don't hold on there he is here I am wonderful so here's what happened folks this is the Jonathan Caruso show we got you so I I muted everyone and I'm talking from my this unexplained Universe who's not a co-host it so they were muted and I'm sitting here just telling you stuff and and wow um okay so that happened moving on yes let's go [Laughter] so great uh so next week I'll be interviewing uh Richard Dell he's an author that wrote a book forgotten Unity a true story um it is in the Jumbotron but his user name is OE L lore l uh I've read the book it's great um he says it's a true story about how an ultra secretive cult in the Pentagon called the Zodiac assassinated his father uh he he and his father were working with um Dr I believe it was Miley uh George Miley and uh they came across this um zodiac group who uh suppressed them in the most mortal way possible and so I am interviewing him it's going to be a great show that's next week uh after that I will be interviewing on Thursday June 20th parcore corx p a RSI uh he is an orb experiencer down in Australia the great land down under he sees orbs all the time uh has lots of videos on um and then on the 21st uh from UFO Twitter UFO Twitter UFO X's own John strer and so then that will be a great interview he just got back from in the desert where he uh brought a lot of new to spes and so I figured it would be a great him also on the 28th I will be interviewing Doomer daddy who runs the Doom room with uh tip tastic and Fringe and so that's what's coming up in my world um also there's the UFO log contest being put on by UFO talk radio I am a finalist in that along with seven other people uh the next uh I think it's due the next monologue is due on June 14th if I'm remembering correctly so keep an eye out for that I'm going to be putting out a 20 to 30 minute monologue on disclosure and uaps and nhi and all that fun stuff so would appreciate your support there is going to be a community vote uh if you haven't already liked the space repost it so more people see it that helps us we appreciate you if you would like to support me I do have tips open and I do have a small business Caruso candles.com uh where me and my lovely fiance Ashley uh create 100% soy candles here in America and sell them um right now only in the US but uh Canada is coming soon and later the world so again I'd like to thank uh my wonderful guest Ashton I'd like to thank everyone in the audience who asked very respectful questions an excellent MH370 space um thanks very much folks and Miss s of course you as always uh thank you so you let's go I can't let's go I can't play the stars hold on let me see if this if I broke this or not yeah I'm gonna probably drop out here when you muted I was I'm just gonna drop right about to say don't do it it was a very Star Trek type oops how come I can still hear it's weird I could still hear there even though I I dropped out okay well uh big thanks to Jonathan and uh was it Miss s trying to remember who that was um okay guys I'm gonna put a link to the another link here to the Discord for you guys thanks for being around thanks for checking it out uh appreciate it here's another link to the Discord I just added a new science channel to the Discord guys so if you're interested uh for the people that are part of the Discord I'm going to put this in the message in a second but for the Science Channel please only post links I don't want to have a lot of discussion in there I want people to be able to see all the science links without having to sift through miles or discussion so uh thank you guys um I'm going to go get some sleep tomorrow we'll do a science stream haven't really decided 100% we we have like four days of streaming in a row so we've been going hard everybody we've been going hard also tomorrow I'm going to start sifting through some of the requests already uh related to Ether Tech uh might start reaching out to some people what I will say guys as a little um little kind of spoiler Exciter thing is I've had some pretty big people reach out to me regarding the devices um not anybody huge in terms of wanting to like try to like debunk or whatever them yet but I expect I'll be able to bait at least somebody in who's got a decent sized following um so we'll see but it's already looking exciting it's only been a day so thanks everybody have a great night we'll talk soon m370x I'm going to play us out with um what we 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