Classified Technology and DIA papers X Space ft. Jake Chansley

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# Classified Technology and DIA papers X Space ft. Jake Chansley [Music] meant to fly PLS ain't supposed to fall from the sky but if they do they'll leave behind more than be S too ples just be flying I know you think I'm ly the USA Baby hi the truth and night ples they meant to fly PL L supposed to fall from the sky but if they do they'll leave behind more than to they'll leave behind more than you FL I'm ly the USA Baby hi the truth and I ain't [Music] fine planes they're meant to fly planes they ain't supposed to fall from the sky but if they do they'll leave behind more than are to just be fly and I know you fake I'm lying the USA they be hiding truth and I ain't buy they leave behind more than a piece of two they'll leave to hi More Than A P or two everybody Welcome to the stream okay welcome to Friday night fun we are going to be doing an xace here in just a couple minutes with Jake Chanley we're going to be going over the DIA papers uh we're going to be talking about some science should be a good time so thanks for being here everybody uh while I'm getting ready here uh welcome everybody who right away this is kind of an impromptu stream William Sigman Noble uh Mr Hawaii glass Todd Turner jet stream Surfer Nicole good to see you hey West hey John B here for as long as I can stay awake says the blow welcome uh hey hasatu I think I already said hi to Jess if not Hello uh yeah lots of solar flares says Sigman uh I don't think that we're going to get wiped out today so we'll see uh JT Donnie Darko airplane engine it is pretty damn weird uh flimsy Greenberg how's it going uh Christa Marco I see you uh thanks again for that that's a nice comment to make great day for fishing fancy Flint good to see you or Flint fancy John Johnson awesome ditch the music nah we're not ditching the music how's it going Jack uh let's see what else we got Richard everybody else how's it going guys okay so um waiting for the space to start up here in a second oh it looks like it just started so here we go hold on how do I can I open this in another one sec guys I gotta get this set up just right there we go there we go I think it's looking pretty good here we go um I'm sure that is busy but um what I'm going to do is I'm going to play a little bit of music here while we wait oh there he is hey Ash they have 40 people in the space right now so my thinking is if all 40 people end up R tweeting the space we could get even more people in here and then that can help us to create the demand for this technology to be released and thus we will have a supplier um Orlando Salazar I see you there uh I don't know if Ashton asked you to come in or not um Ashton if and when you want people to come up and you and get a mic I will allow you to by all means do that if you want somebody to come in if you've told somebody to come in that's cool what I would like to do though first is kind of Bounce things back and forth between yourself and myself let's let's condense this jargon and this esoteric knowledge down into language that most people can comprehend and uh then kind of field the questions and stuff like that does that sound good to you yeah Hey Jake how you doing tonight man we today this afternoon I'm doing well man I'm really excited to do this yeah me too yeah no sorry it took me a second I was just getting my stuff set up uh we're live streaming as well over on YouTube and on X if you guys want to watch as in addition to participate um I I hadn't asked anybody else to come up so I thought we would do it the same way we normally have so for people who are new uh Jake and I have done a number of spaces and streams about advanced technology stuff about the MH370 uh and then just some other streams as well they've all been really good usually our our format is we go for a couple hours for the first hour or so usually Jake and I kind of opine about you know the technology what it means Etc and then usually the second half or you the last 45 minutes or so we have people come up ask questions what have you so uh Jake is that cool with you if we do it that way again absolutely I'm looking forward to to it um I'm going to play a little bit of music here while we wait uh for people to retweet the space um and sweet uh share this info with others see if we can get this room full um I certainly hope you like the my choice of Music I've chosen a I think very appropriate song uh written by Han Zimmer so let's uh let's put that on quick while we wait and here we go okay this is going to be good okay we got a little background music chat when I go solo layout can you still hear the background can you guys still hear the music while I have solo layout like this people who are watching on the stream okay let me see little epic music ooh uh how am I going to do this God ha it always tries to clip it think we're going to start with the warp drives paper can't read it like this though if I put this up here okay you guys can still hear it yeah yeah it's very quiet it is really quiet I think that's just because he the way he's doing it so okay everybody who's in here we're going to be doing this space today for the next couple hours uh I'm going to go through some of the same stuff on these Dia papers I will I may uh switch the view over so you guys can see the paper while I'm talking through them maybe not I haven't really decided uh so if you guys have seen the some of the recent streams we have it's going to be somewhat repetitious but repetition is good for uh understanding the concepts so Jake and I kind of have an agenda it's going to be uh we're going to talk about The Ether scaler physics quantum entanglement uh faster than light travel wormholes vortices magnetic fields electromagnetic fields um and then Quantum travel entanglement and then we've also potentially talking about some radar plasma physic semiconductors so we've got a lot of stuff to talk about here it's going to be good everybody's a Critic this is from Interstellar oh interesting I know that good to know this a little bigger Twitter like supposedly has copyright strikes but um I don't think it's as harsh like they don't really people don't really enforce it on Twitter yeah I can never repeat the science enough I'm probably going to do restreams of the Thomas beard and stuff now that we know more as well like maybe next week also those it's better to do those streams for me because I don't have to have so much preparation takes a lot of preparation for some of this stuff yeah Interstellar was pretty crazy uh that's where I first learned about time dilation pretty big we've already got 100 people in the Stream or in the space which is pretty [Music] big close that okay then I'll move these papers over here can't get this thing on the left to go away huh yeah there's no way to get that to go away oh there it goes okay now we're much better situation to read these papers there we [Music] go I might have to get a beer [Music] chat maybe a beer and a root beer I don't know so John B asked a really good question do you think that the ether is too much of a catchall no that's the beauty of it the thing about physics in science that's wonderful is that it's it's elegant it's elegant solutions that are elegant are what you want to find you know the fact that the ether solves the problem of dark energy is that's honestly mind-blowing it really is for that don't recognize the song it's the interstellar main theme by Hans Zimmer which uh God I love that song Hans Zimmer is so good and yeah that movie is really relevant here too that's the first time I learned about time dilation and I remember I watched that movie and I was like wait a minute you can travel to the Future like time dilation is a real thing like what happens to them on the planet when they're by that black hole and I so I spent like all night just like Googling it looking it up finding out that yeah like we actually tested this like decades ago and like we sent up airplanes into like near as near orbit and we sent them in opposite directions at like different altitudes or different orbit and said that we found out there was like a slight difference in the clocks that they put on them afterwards enough to like prove that time dilation is 100% real which means that you experience time flow based on your frame of reference as Einstein would put it which is that like you yourself are experiencing time at a different rate than potentially somebody else is experiencing time which becomes very important for what we're going to talk about today when we talk about uh quantum entangle uh and teleportation and uh super luminal speeds uh because that's going to come into play yes it is this is why I chose that music I was really kind of rocking my brain like what am I gonna put thanks that's the perfect one and you're right time dilation is a real thing time is relative Einstein told us that a long time ago and we're I think just now kind of catching up so let's for I mean do you want to start with the DIA documents yeah I was thinking okay so have yeah go for it well I saw in the comments that somebody looked up the address that was placed on that document and it took them to some random Suburban home in in Vegas or in Nevada rather and I'm just sitting here scratching my head and I'm wondering because I I know that how the intelligence agency like to do things is they will release a bunch of stuff that may very well be factual but then they will alter the documents ever so slightly in ways that most people wouldn't realize or recognize like the seal that they use for the agency or the address or what have you or the signature of of the bureaucrat that signed off on it all of these things or one of these things might be off slightly or not official and then the intelligence agency will point to these inconsistencies and say ah see this is this is debunked this is bogus even though the info in there may very well be real or there it might be partially true or whatever so I'm curious about the authenticity of these things have you investigated thoroughly enough to identify the markers that this thing is in fact real yeah that's a good question because a lot of people have this idea I think it's called limited hang out or something this idea that we would throw stuff out there to just throw adversaries off which of course we do stuff like that in general but when you look at these scientific papers the thing about them is that they're consistent and they have real equations from Einstein and what have you it's not like it's somebody just made up some mumbo jumbo on there so they're they're written from a perspective of not an experimental perspective but from a theoretical physics perspective and in this sense there's no like throwing somebody off with respect to that because that's the stuff they describe in there is like einsteinian uh and Rosenberg you know um uh physics that that we see here um what I'll say too is that I think the person that wrote them is uh Eric or um Eric Davis Eric W Davis who and and the other part too is that they want you to think that it's stuff can't be real that they wrote you know because that's also a tactical Advantage so you can almost think of it in the reverse as well is that some of these people like Eric Davis I have it on pretty good authority that he will come out and even just say that like oh no we can't you know we can't warp an object teleport an object but he just knows like firsthand that we can and potentially even has walked through a real Stargate himself which is just Stargate like you know a portal similar to warping two areas in SpaceTime so um you know you can take it or leave it in terms of believing it but what I would say is that what like how we analyze fake news in general should be that we trust and verify so we shouldn't just take the headline of what we read we should look through the facts in it and that's what I want to review with you guys today is like what's the meat and potatoes of these papers so the ones I'll list off what we're going to look at here today and then you can uh and I think what you realize right away is as well is that there's a lot of common themes between all three papers that would say okay if we're spending all this effort to write all these papers that's a lot of work for dis information that all lines up between three desparate papers the first one is warp drive dark energy and the manipulation of extra dimensions and this is really important because Einstein Rosen ER is an Einstein Rosen Bridge which is a wormhole and uh dark energy is these stuff where we know that from based on uh let's say classically accepted physics there was a big bang but we know that the Universe expanded faster than the speed of light but we also think the speed of light's the speed limit so how is that possible this is where physicists came up with dark energy which they think encompasses like 70% of the Universe um and then the last one here is manipulation of extra Dimensions which is going to come up with this idea of The Ether and the ether is this idea that you have potentially unlimited negative energy it could be like the canvas on which our reality is painted on which we'll talk about here in a minute as well the second paper traversible wormholes Stargates and negative energy so we were just talking about this idea of warp drive and now you can take this idea of having a traversible wormhole which is can you actually survive a wormhole if you were to go through it and that's what this paper deals with Stargates which would be like taking that concept to the next level and saying like Okay we can actually create a portal that's always there not when we just induce like a wormhole and then it can just be like a living thing like the TV show Stargate um and then the last one negative energy is essentially like like we talked about The Ether the extra Dimension if there's unlimited negative energy this can account for Dark Energy so you could postulate that dark energy literally is equal to negative energy and that can be the reason for why we had that expansion in the big bank and then those are going to be the main ones but there's also this third paper uh and there's actually more than this as well I'm going to review but these are the ones that are all kind of like linked together which is anti-gravity for Aerospace applications and this one talks about something that uh that there's more than one type of manipulating like gravity for propulsion a warp drive is like creating a hole within SpaceTime itself and going from one location to somewhere else but you can also have this idea that you could create like an Impulse engine that just pushes off that uh negative energy essentially or pushes off that extra Dimension and that's what this paper digs into but it has topics for Dark Energy anti-gravitational application for dark and vacuum energy and it also talks about something like zero point fluctuations which I think is just another term for you know the ether extra Dimension so that's what we're going to dig into today uh Jake you have any initial comments well I it wouldn't surprise me at all if the DIA gave a bogus address for their paper because they don't want to identify where their locations are where they're doing this kind of research of course if they're going to make something public they would either redact it or put something that's not necess that's going to be like a false Trail there so the concepts behind what you're talking about are very real and if we understand the laws of physics as they are practically able to be applied then we can and will be able to do things like go through wormholes or Einstein Rosen Bridges whatever you want to call them um the fabric of reality from what I understand is held together by Quantum and Cosmic black holes and white holes or vortexes and so if we learn how to Traverse these vortexes and these bridges that they create in time and space then something like what we're talking about really isn't all that far-fetched let alone using harmonics energy frequency and vibration to manifest wormholes or Stargates vortexes that allow us to Traverse massive amounts of space in a very short amount of time yep and here's the thing I want to let people know ahead of time and this is this I rarely like to do the trust me bro stuff but if youve looked through my work if you look through what Jake's talked about um I think that you'll find that we have very significant amount of evidence that the military-industrial complex potentially other governments other than United States but definitely United States is secretly way more advanced than what the public perception is I think the public perception is that like oh military is just real stupid they can't get anything done but that's the thing like if you look at strategy like when you're weak you want to appear strong and when you're strong you want to appear weak uh and we Dropped a Bomb the nuclear bomb uh 79 years ago so you know it's not like we've been doing nothing for 79 years what I think Jake and are proposing is that you know the government and potentially other governments through private Labs have acquired uh technology that's essentially the level of breakaway civilization F via you know a unification theory of quantum mechanics and general relativity and especially the Quantum Mechanics Parts brings up a lot of uh more spiritual aspects like Consciousness and the nature of reality and you know uh energies and things like that which I which I I like to listen to Jake talk about then the other thing that I think we when we open it up to the crowd we can ask uh everyone as well is like how do we think we got here you know like this idea of advancing that far secretly even in an 80e time span B brags the question of like did we find this technology somewhere did we dig it up did some be visit us is uh Did we tell ourselves from the future because when you start to get to faster light travel you start to wonder about stuff like time travel um or maybe other answers that are out there um so I think it's going to be a fun conversation here I totally agree and all of those things are plausible and on the table um so let's let's kind of dive into the nuts and bolts of this stuff if you don't mind where would you like to start yeah I got it ready to go so I'm going to start with just some overviews of some of the concepts from the uh warp drives dark energy and manipulation of extra Dimensions so um as I already mentioned uh uh warp drive kind of functions like an Einstein Rosen Bridge a wormhole which is a connection between one point and another uh it means that we can achieve super luminal relativistic speeds and when I say that it means that if you were the person who was Going Through the Wormhole or object going through it it would look like going through a doorway but if you are the person who is looking at that Wormhole it's going to look like that person just went from one location to another location within the blink of an eye um and this is the kind of travel that we would need in order to be able to go Interstellar distances because even the closest star to us is four light years away it means it's so far away it takes light to take four years to get from there to here um if we were to use conventional Rockets it would take hundreds and hundreds of years to get to the nearest star that's out there so we really need something like this in order to be able to achieve those types of speeds um and then in addition to that we wonder okay what is a warp drive what is that actually mean what what's the physics that we're talking about so if you've seen Star Trek we're talking about Star Trek warp drive Drive literally the same thing alberry Drive Al alberry was a Mexican physicist who came up with this paper of how we could achieve warp drive in like 1994 I want to think so we're talking about 30 years ago it's not that long ago um and the idea here is that you're bending space in front and behind your object to create essentially a warp bubble around your object when you put your object in a warp bubble now it's displaced entirely from SpaceTime as we perceive it but this is not a situation where you are like going to some other Bizarro Dimension it's more of like a shortcut between two points the idea that all points in space and time as we perceive them are connected by the extra Dimension and how can that make sense the answer there is that if you were to strip away our reality to the extra Dimension the ether as I like to call it we're bringing The Ether back the speed of light is no longer constant anymore the speed of light is now potentially infinitely fast Tesla measured it supposedly at 50 times what we considered to be the speed of light so now that speed limit that we were talking about in terms of how long it takes to get to another star system for light years now it becomes instantaneous potentially if all points in the universe are connected um so this is a huge jump up from the idea of what we have from propulsion and this is why it's there's so much resistance and why this concept is so Paradigm shifting is because we are still using chemical rocket propulsion The Next Step Up from that would be some type of electrogravitic propulsion that just like like Star Trek impulse Drive where you're just like pushing off of the vacuum this is what we're talking about here with Drive is like you're just literally like teleporting to another location um so it's huge now I'll bring up a couple more things and then I'll let uh Jake jump in on this one is uh so we need something called uh negative energy in order to produce a wormhole bubble now there was a recent paper that just came out a week ago that says we think we can do it with normal matter energy and that we don't need negative energy um but if we do need negative energy then we would expect it to look similar to a black hole which is an absorption of of all it's that where the matter is mass is so strong there absorption of even light cannot escape from it and the main difference between a black hole and a wormhole is that a wormhole doesn't have an event horizon so in the movie Interstellar Matthew mccon falls into a black hole in the real world he would have been ripped to shreds because of the gravitational forces and the moment you go through the Event Horizon there the the uh gravity is so strong that not even light can escape so there's no way to ever get out of it um now in a wormhole there's no Event Horizon so that means you can have this absorption of energy event but you're not going to get crushed in it which is really big it means that wormholes are humanly traversable um yeah and then the way that we know that there is dark energy or negative energy is something called the Casmir effect and if you were just to take two plates and stick them next to each other I think uh copper plates or they may be different uh materials that we can use I'm still learning a little bit but you take two plates and stick them close to together to one another a force or repul or a attractive force will occur and those plates will stick together so this is uh like a negative pressure that we can see exists and they say that it's because of quantum fluctuations in the vacuum and I would uh suggest that perhaps it's because there is an extra Dimension and when that happens what they say is there's certain wavelengths can't fit between the space between the um the plates and that's why it occurs now if you can scale scale this up um and find a way to utilize that energy on a much larger scale then you might be able to achieve the negative energy densities that you need for say a wormhole so the Casmir effect is something you want to remember for sure if you're trying to understand the physics behind how this is possible um and then extra spatial Dimensions so it right now we're trying to explain everything in terms of quantum fluctuations and um these virtual particles which my new phrase is that this is just the ether with extra steps because the ether potentially has unlimited negative energy in it if there is like a canvas that our reality is painted on and with unlimited negative energy now it's just a matter of how do we tap into it and it begs the idea of free energy which we can talk about later um but Kusa back in 1919 came up with a unification theory of gravity and electromagnetism which involved adding an additional spatial Dimension to general relativity and populating this extra Dimension with two mathematical Concepts called a Vector potential and a scaler potential and this is the part where he the theory got added to clu a clim but this is important because somebody's already come up with this idea of adding an extra Dimension and Tesla had come up with the idea of the ether as well and this is how they were able to figure out how we can take stuff that's very small these Quantum fluctuations and how we can have it make sense with respect to stuff that we see that's very large general relativity that's out there um I would say that we had figured out the answer 105 years ago in 1919 and ever since then we've just been trying to build on physics that made no sense and this is the reason why public physics can't explain stuff like dark matter and dark energy it's because we just threw out this idea of creating this extra Dimension um the last thing I want to say on this one oh no okay so then the other thing is the energy requirements so I think there's three ways to solve the problem these massive energy requirements now we need negative energy which if we have an ether we have the answer to negative energy but how do you get the enough negative energy to be able to create a warp bubble around your object three ways one way is that one of the equations uh Dr Jack sarfati proposed that we can reduce C the speed of light which is one of the requirements we need for energy and you know the speed of light is a huge number so if we can reduce that number in the equation then we can reduce the amount of energy that we need for a warp bubble significantly uh and I I posted a clip like last week where it was proposed by somebody else on the panel with the alien scientist um I think his name is Santiago but if I'm saying that wrong I apologize that we could potentially use a plasmoid for that so plas research in physics is another aspect of this that I think the public doesn't really realize how advanced it is but if you can use a plasmoid which is like an exotic vacuum think of like ball lightning we call them exotic vacuum objects some object like that that's a self-sustaining ball of plasma that that can actually reduce the requirement we need for the energy um the other option that we can do is we can create the shell the bubble very thin so imagine the difference between a very thick shell around your object and a very thin one and the answer is when we're warping SpaceTime creating a bubble to displace an object our shell can be extremely thin can just be a tiny thin shell so this significantly reduces the negative energy requirement and then what Dr salvator Pi said to me directly in my heart TRS podcast is that we can amplify energy as well if you read his high frequency gravitational wave generator patent it says you can amplify energy to such a degree that you can destroy a planet or PL or asteroid or a planetoid or asteroid now how does that possible if you look at kum's law which is um how much force you can generate from Electric charges if you were to take like forces or like charges and jam them together the electric force increases exponentially based on the distance as it gets reduced because the bottom the denominator is distance squared so the more that number goes down the more your Force exponentially increases so we might have three ways we might be able to reduce the energy requirement we might be able to make our shell really thin and we might be able to produce basically unlimited energy through uh exponentially increasing it so I think that wormholes personally based on this paper and you can do your own uh analysis seem like they could be practical we just need the idea of an ether to be real and then we need to have our very Advanced Plasma Research and the next thing you know we've got the the makings for a warp bubble what are your thoughts Jake well um first of all very well explained um that the fact that there's multiple ways of doing this I think is indicative that the understanding of physics is one that becomes all-encompassing and allows for multiple ways to shall we say hack the system or use this understanding in mathematics and harmonics to Traverse massive amounts of space and therefore time and if time is its own like little Dimension now then that would make sense um one of the things that I like an analogy that I like to draw for people is that when we talk about these wart Bubbles and the traversing of The Ether or the traversing of the this other dimension the reason why we see for example this object pop up in one spot and then a couple of minutes later pop up in another is because what's happening is that this field that is around this object allows it to act access this other dimension and essentially skip across the dimension of time the way that a rock can skip across the surface of water and you'll see the ripples where the if you're like a fish in the in the water you will see the Ripple of where the stone hits but you're never going to really see the stone as it's flying through the air because that is this other dimension that's outside of the water right so you're just seeing these crafts skip across the dimension of time and space like a a rock skips across water now when it comes to things like The Ether or even things like dark energy or dark matter um I am proposing that this negative energy that you're talking about that is not necessarily visible or detectable with the limited amounts of tools that we have at our disposal in the public is in one way or another the vibratory nature to Creation itself in that so if we factor in something like simatics right simatics is the use of sound to create certain patterns in especially in certain mediums like water or grains of rice on a speaker grains of salt on a metal plate what have you and when the vibration is put through these mediums then the Vib of this field this simatic field ends up moving the the matter the physical objects through vibration into a very specific pattern based on this much larger field and so it is my contention that what we are witnessing when we look at things like dark matter or dark energy or what you're calling negative energy is actually the vibration of creation and the movement of of physical objects or energy into a pattern and the dark energy that we're seeing the the negative energy is actually the vibration of this simatic frequency that is moving physical objects around in time and space in this extra dimensional element to the universe now if everything is quantum entangled which it is then that means that everything around the universe and within this negative energy space is interconnected therefore if we understand the vibration of this larger simatic field then we can Traverse across space and time using this vibratory frequency to Journey from one galaxy to another or one Galactic supercluster to another because now we're using this extra dimension of this negative energy to do the journeying as opposed to trying to journey in between the grains of rice or the grains of salt what we would think of as stars planets and galaxies um I do see the requests that are there we will get to the requests please keep your requests active we're not trying to ignore you we're just going back and forth me and Ashton on this for a little bit and then we're going to open things up now when it comes to things like vortexes and wormholes and stuff like that one of the the ways that I like to kind of help people to understand in layman's terms how this stuff works is similar to a guitar you have a guitar for example with six strings and you can hit one of the strings without putting your finger on any of the Frets and you will get a certain sound but if you go to the string above it or below it and you place your finger on a certain fret and then you pluck that string you will get the exact same sound you will get the exact same harmonic frequency that you would get by plucking the string above or below it if it was just without being touched on any of the Frets so in this way if we look at the universe like these layers of dimensions then and or strings right based on certain frequencies of vibration or densities of matter or energy then we can then liken this metaphor of the guitar and wormholes to the idea of placing our finger on the Fret of a certain string to produce the exact same harmonic resonance that you would get based on where it is that our world or our string would be and then if you can do that you can then Traverse from one dimension to another simply based on harmonics and the holding your finger down on a fret or technology in our case using technology to create a certain frequency that can then allow us to journey into this extra Dimension that is quantum entangled to the rest of the universe does that make sense to you Ashton am I on point here no I think you are for me the big question about like frequency and what have you um you know that's the part where I'm not really sure but I do know that resonance is extremely important and that that to me speaks to the idea of frequency um I think you hit on a couple of really good points and I want to also uh you know basically say that the analogy for skipping a stone on water is a really good one especially when it comes to this idea of what are UFOs that we see out there um and I'm pretty much open to anything on that front but if these if this technology that we're talking about being able to create wormholes warp drive Etc is real um it does open the door to there being a lot of answers for the new the non-human intelligence question and if uh other beings other than us than humans have this type of Technology people wonder what would it look like you know what does it look like if I'm looking to seeing something out there maybe why don't we see more UFOs out there if there is life out there well maybe they've discovered this technology and they're just skipping across the the Galaxy the universe you know and this is why we don't see them floating around because they're not using conventional propulsion the way that we would think and the question there is okay well what do you use as your uh direction of travel how do you determine where you go and that part is something that I think I I've I believe I have a pretty good concept in grasp of now because uh of the investigation I've been looking into it's something called phase conjugation and this is again the idea that you can have your waves uh kind of cancel each other out perfectly or be in harmony with one another and amplify one another um the idea that if you have two waves you just line them up exactly over one another or an exact opposite orientation of one another um and if you do this and you have a zero point system which would be a system where you have your vectors going against one another perfectly your zero point system could be like two lines uh intersecting or going at one another like imagine two cars that are driving right at each other or the other way that it can work is you could have like a triangle where you have a triangle where like let's say three cars are all driving towards one common midpoint this is would be your zero point system and the way that the physics would say that would work is that you would have that zero point system uh basically what we mentioned with kums law You' have that system collapse on itself the distance Clos now you have this electrical exponential increase of energy uh now three points in SpaceTime is the minimum number you need to make a two dimensional object like a triangle so if you were to imagine that you were going to warp an object then three would be the minimum number you need if you had two you just drew a line you can't get something there's no your Wormhole have no depth or have no uh face to it that you could go through um and then the question is okay well how do you determine the vector of travel based on that okay you went through a wormhole where are you going well the answer there is twofold if you have let's say three objects that are spinning around you have something in electrical engineer called the right hand rule which goes this idea of vortexes which Jake was just talking about and if you take your right hand then and you curl your fingers and you point your thumb and then you point your finger you can determine the electric field direction as well as the magnetic field as the curl and then you have this Vector based on where I think it's your thumb hopefully I'm not saying this wrong it's either your pointing finger or your thumb where the vector would determine your direction of travel and so if you were to look at your object and say okay well they're spinning clockwise then the vector of travel would be backwards from wherever the object is if you're looking straight on on and this could determine which way you go now entanglement could also determine exactly where you go so if you imagine that you have those three objects spinning around and they're creating a wormhole now you send another object a fourth object an orb let's say somewhere else and now when those objects converge you have that fourth orb shoot a beam at the three other objects at the center point of those three other objects and it creates a phase conjugate which is an exact reflection back the other way so you can imagine rubber band snapping and then you in that way you've entangled your object to your to your pump waves as they would call them using phase conjugation and next thing you know your objects goes from one location to the other not even just the object but all the energy around where the object was at in SpaceTime as well is now just moved from one location to another in your warp bubble um the other thing I want to point out real quick is an analogy of the stress in the medium which I really like a lot because I think it's true uh which is if we uh take uh classical physics and we say if we pull on like a rubber band or a rope in two different directions like tug of war and we pull equally on both sides then that rope's not going to move left or right it's going to stay right in the middle there it's not going to move we could pull twice as hard and it would still the sum total of the forces would still be zero in the middle and then if we pull four times as hard same deal but if we pull that rope super super hard this rubber band that I have in my hand really really hard the rubber band's gonna snap it's gonna snap in half so what that means is that even though we've canceled our forces on both sides it doesn't mean that there's nothing left it means that there is a stress in the medium so if your medium is a rope or this rubber band and I'm playing it and this goes to Jake's idea of the guitar and the sound with the guitar is that if I'm pulling on this this is how you create uh this stress in the medium so now instead of a rubber band or a rope or you what have you let's imagine that it's SpaceTime itself that we're pulling on SpaceTime itself in both directions we're making our force equal to zero What's Left what's left is the stress in the medium of SpaceTime what is the stress in the medium of SpaceTime the answer is gravity Gra the stress on the medium of SpaceTime so this is this idea of how we can use something called scaler potentials which is the stress in the medium to produce gravity now why haven't we able to figure that out why I mean it's you know 2024 how we not figure out how gravity and propulsion works if it's that simple uh the answer is because we've uh forgotten how uh the equations were initially written by James Clerk Maxwell James Clerk Maxwell wrote 20 electrical engineering equations that had the scaler potential in them in addition to the fact that we just just WR read about that paper where Kusa Klein came up with a scaler potential in your extra Dimension um and then what happened is Oliver heavys side came in and said no that's too complicated I'm going to um make I'm going to reduce this down to four equations and in doing so we lost how to manipulate the scaler potential the stress of medium and the saddest part about this is that even with all of our heavy sides equations we can still do everything that we're doing right now from electro electrical engineering or electromagnetic perspective so we can have streams we can be talking through a microphone you guys can be hearing it all this stuff TV everything that's cool we just forgot how to manipulate gravity so I would uh then suggest the idea that the military government especially has figured this out a long time ago and they have just had no reason to tell the world all the textbooks in the world are potentially written incorrectly and the people in power probably know that and they keep it that way for whatever reason for greed for geopolitical purposes for defense purposes whatever it is so um let's see the last thing actually that's it that's all my things so Jake good job on that part uh any other comments on that before we go to the next one well yeah because you brought up the the three points like the Triangular element to this and this brings me to the MH370 and the video the the live that I was watching that you did where you were talking about how it is that these three objects rotating around the the airplane in a perfect wave form and each of them emitting a very specific electromagnetic frequency and when they when they all came together it like created this pressure that allowed for the creation of a of a wormhole or created a double tourus field within a double tourist field that was like this Wormhole that allowed the plane from both the back and the front to be basically transported to another location so is that kind of how like like is that how this is working that you have these three objects that you're like you're talking about because you create another dimension right you you can't just have two objects because then it's just a straight line but if you have these three objects and they are rotating creating and they're all kind of like feeding into this electromagnetic potential and then they end up coming together and then creating a almost like a pressure wave or stress in the medium of SpaceTime itself then that ends up creating like almost like a a double tus field or a collapse of this energetic potential which allows for this Vortex or this Wormhole to open up and for this object to then Traverse through it right yeah so that's I mean you honestly nailed it so I will just give a little bit more context on some of it as well is so that when we want that to achieve then that scaler potential which is the stress in the medium the gravity what we need to do is we need to zero out our our magnetic and or electric potentials so instead of this there being electromagnetism we have this idea of electrogravitics so if we can manipulate our uh magnetic potential to be zero so we can take our magnetic normally a magnet like if you imagine the Earth is going to have like bend around from the top to the bottom if we can zero that out somehow uh and or zero out the electric potential then what we're left with is the gravity manipulation the stress in the medium the same way where if I'm pulling on the rubber band on both sides cancel it out it's not that there's nothing left there's a stress though so how do we do that the answer seems to be something called a Taurus a donut a donut shape so make a circle with your hands the doughnut shape is what allows for that to have a zero at least at a certain point a zero magnetic potential which can create that stress in the medium that we need so that would be the toroid whenever you hear the word Taurus toroid what have you so when you look at plasma physics as well um you'll see that shape come up all the time when you now that you guys have heard about it you're going to see it everywhere so when in MH370 videos we see these orbs spinning around the plane and early on I was able to just tell by looking at it that we're looking at some kind of field like a plasma field uh there and then we can tell from the heat signature in those videos that's what we're looking at so you can imagine the idea that there is a toid inside of there that is producing that Electro that that plasma field and that's why we actually see the heat signature in those orbs a really weird Heat Signature looks like a Tesla symbol and that's exactly what would be predicted based on a toid with a plasma field so they themselves are Taurus they themselves are a donut and what they're doing is they're producing a higher level Taurus a fractal Taurus so people wonder what is a fractal moment what is a fractal Taurus it means just something inside of something so like a toid inside of a toroid a donut inside of a donut so you've got your dut your your sphere your orb and they're spinning around the plane in a zero point field and they're producing a higher level toroid between them you could draw a circle between them and now that is the electromagnetic feel that they are creating around them and why are they doing that because they're going to create a gravity wave they're going to manipulate Gravity the stress in the medium around the center point of their formation which is in the case of MH370 videos a 777 and just like Jake said they're going to create a gravity wave which then the question is okay where does it go and how far does it go and how are you limited and to something else that you mentioned earlier Jake is this idea of entanglement I love the idea that everything in space and time is connected and we just don't perceive it because think it answers a lot of questions about Consciousness even some stuff about like people having like psychic uh powers or experiences like remote viewing and stuff like that um and I think that even with this technology for a lot of people when they first heard this they went no no not possible and I did too and then now I'm like oh my God not only is it possible uh I think we've already had it and to me the question is how far can you take this how far can you advance this like a lot of people kind of think of Technology like a step Stone but it's kind of like a thing where you can get much a lot better at it like a lot lot lot better so even if we have this technology right now you can imagine a thousand years of advancing this technology we might go from a situation where we can produce these kind of effects with radar on the ground people talk about like Antarctica harp stuff like that those could be used for these types of scaler waves to then putting them on satellites where then we can shoot beams down from the sky and at their intersection point we can you know either create energy or move energy at a distance and then The Next Step Beyond that would be that you make some orbs that can float around themselves that are self- sustaining and that they have beams on them so now anywhere you want on the planet you just deploy the orbs and you can create those effects anywhere on the planet without the Restriction of uh line of sight like with the The Radars on the ground or with the satellite um and then what's after that that's the real kicker is that you can imagine well if every Point like Jay just said is quantum entangled and it's just a matter of tapping into that entanglement then maybe you could just create you know literally beam me up Scotty put you from any point in the universe to any other point of the universe the snap of a fingers and this opens the door to the next paper as well which we'll also talk about well why couldn't you create a Stargate then like why can't I just go down to my basement create a giant Stargate and connect that to anywhere else I want in the universe create a Stargate on the other side and now I don't need to induce the Wormhole the Wormhole is just permanently open however long I want maybe I drop an electric charge through it and now it just opens up just like in the TV show you know Stargate sg1 or what have you um so I would challenge people to think that like not only is this technology really possible but if it is then let your imagination like push how far you could take the technology I think it truly is essentially the equivalent of magic go ahead Jake well I'm wanted to address something you you said something earlier about the vector I think you said Vector potential right yeah so like the direction of travel simply right right okay so if you look into sacred geometry and the notion that the vector equilibrium is the fundamental building blocks of all of reality because it is mathematically stable because this and I have it up in the nest here it's the the image that is in the top right hand corner of the assets that I have in the nest the vector equilibrium is basically two equally powerful forces colliding together and because they're equally powerful they create a stable structure in the dimensions of space and time and at the center of the vector equilibrium is the energy that creates all things so everything is made up of energy everything is made up of the exact same fundamental Parts whether they be Quantum particles or celestial bodies they are all made up of energy and in this way this kind of explains quantum entanglement because if everything is coming from the same Source then it would kind of make sense why it is that just for the sake of balance of the universe itself we would have quantum entanglement now because the vector equilibrium is a stable geometric structure in space and time it can be built on infinitely endlessly from Quantum to Cosmic and that's why I have in the bottom leftand corner of that post up in the nest I have an image where the vector equilibrium is built on top of itself over and over and over again this is where we get the whole uh star tetrahedron or Mera and the double Taurus field because when these two equally powerful forces Collide they don't just stop they don't just stay there they actually begin to rotate around one another and we get a clockwise spiral going upward and a counterclockwise spiral going downward and this creates the double tourist field now when we talk about things like the creation of like an anti-gravity field or um some sort of a Quantum wave affecting field around a craft it is in fact a double tourus field that has accessed this Zero Point Energy this energy at the core of fundamental core of all things it has accessed that and it is basically through that accessing that other dimension and then enveloping itself with that frequency or with that extra extra dimensional waveform and then this allows the craft to go from a physical object a macrophysical object to then using the quantum entangled nature of reality and this extra Dimension to begin to Traverse the universe or space and time now that being said when we're talking about like the uh these Vector points or these uh double Taurus Fields if everything in the universe whether it be Stars galaxies the universe itself atoms Quantum particles if they're all based on the same sacred geometric design then if we can learn to match certain energetic frequencies then we can vibrate reality or SpaceTime itself we can manipulate that to the point where we can Journey from A to B and back again instantaneously because we're essentially tapping into the quantum entangled sacred geometric structure of reality itself and then using that understanding to circumnavigate to these higher Dimensions so if you look at the asset I have in the nest and you look at how it is is that the vector equilibrium can be built on top of itself then what you're seeing with these different layers of the vector equilibrium is different frequencies of energy different amounts of energy being pulled to and through space and time to create certain physical objects so the sun has a lot more energy than the earth the galaxy has a lot more energy than the sun Quantum particles have a lot less energy than atoms and atoms have less energy than molecules etc etc so the idea here is is that we have all of these different infinitely nested Quantum or Cosmic vibrations of energy that are cycling this infinite amount of energy within the universe to and through themselves and all the way down to on a Quantum level all the way down to the same omnipresent source which is at the core of the vector equilibrium at the core of all existence so if human beings are kind of like right in the middle of the infinitely large and the infinitely small and if we have this double Taurus field that surrounds our body it the electromagnetic field if we have a vector equilibrium within our heart and that's what creates this double tus field this electromagnetic field around us then we have the ability to create a technology that allows that electromagnetic field to Traverse to these higher Dimensions or these lower dimensions and circumvent the ud usion of Separation circumvent the illusion of space and time am I does is any is all this making sense to you in context of what it is that you're saying there Ash yeah so there was this letter that was addressed to me on a YouTube channel that just randomly got created had a couple other weird uh pretty well produced AI stories in it but then there was a letter to me it was about the case I was digging into it was about a lot of the science that we've been talking about too which is weird um it mentioned the idea of a magic fed which was very similar to this idea of like warp drive or what have you and near the end of it it said it was like telling me to find a guy that was on Joe Rogan but got his episode pulled and I just thought that was weird and said you know find this guy that's this gray bearded man and I had no idea what the hell it was talking about but I was like I'm interested this is crazy and uh it mentioned this idea of sacred geometry and I had never heard of sacred geometry before that um and I looked into a little bit and it looks just like what Jake has up in the nest up here at the top with these uh really simplistic geometric structures and shapes which one thing you can imagine there is this idea of zero point structures so you know like we have two lines going intersecting or a perfectly equilateral triangle you can build that up into different shapes and there's many different ways you can create a zero point system um and then also the idea of a Taurus which potentially could be itself a sacred geometry type shape because it has you just natural properties that are consistent with how maybe even the universe was created um from something that was relatively simple itself but the letter said so to find this guy the great beard man so we find out right away that it's Randall Carlson that there was an episode he was on with Malcolm Bendle and that he's huge in the sacred geometry um and my my followers found it out within like hours or less and so I look into them I find out my buddy Bob Greener who does low energy nuclear reactions cold fusion he's hanging out with Malcolm Bendle in the Maldives like the same day this video drops and I mean to me at that point it was just like now you're living in like a a mystery movie you know pretty bizarre um and he'd been working on plasmoids exotic vacuum objects same exact thing that we were seeing in these videos same exact thing that we think we need to reduce the energy requirement for a wormhole I to me that's a pretty damn weird coincidence um and so I haven't talked to Randall but have talked to Malcolm um but if you guys watch a lot of randle's work he's been on Joe Rogan a number of times he talks a lot about how important sacred geometry is one of the weird things about the letter was it said you know the gray bearded man might not even know how important the stuff he's talking about really is and when you look at Randle stuff he's a lot into like some of the old uh ancient archaeology type stuff and the pyramids and things like that but he doesn't talk too much about like the high science aspects of it like can you create like a PL you know exotic vacuum object of ball lightning with this and what else can you do the other thing that the letter mentions is the idea that what it requires to do these magical types of things like teleporting aircraft are simple structures and low energy phase Transitions and this opens this kind of brings up the same thing that we just mentioned with respect to that first paper which is this idea that you could potentially lower the amount of energy that you need maybe you don't need this huge infinite amount of energy to be able to achieve some of these magical type effects maybe it's a matter of efficiency and using very simple structures to create very efficient ways of forming a phase transition which is what we see in those videos happen to the plane we're not looking at a black hole because we don't see everything get sucked in there's no Event Horizon it's a phase transition that's happening that's really what you could argue a warp drive or Wormhole is which I think they're just synonymous with one another at this point um and then for me the reason why I haven't harped too much on this a lot of people might go whoa this is like you have like the answer for how you could achieve this stuff is that for me I like to try to build up from a foundation a basis for a lot of people even what we're talking about now is too much so for me it's like I don't really care how it's possible that we can warp an aircraft what I want to know is just show me like literally what it takes to make it happen and if that's a Taurus or if that's some other sacred geometry shape great you know I don't care to Jake's Point that's why I think he's like the yin to my yang is that Jake will then go okay well you know these shapes also from the esoteric aspect are like the nature and shape of the universe this is like explains Consciousness and potentially like our internal energy like why we even are alive why we even exist why Consciousness even exists it can even just be like you know if people are searching for the meaning of life you can look at it from a couple perspectives one of the ways that I look at it personally is just my belief is this idea that our bodies are like avatars and like our soul comes from this you know Cosmic ether if you want to think of it or higher Dimension and it manifests itself in in our physical bodies as we see it I mean that's what it feels like to me when I'm living uh and the other way you could look at is this idea that The Ether itself if there is this extra Dimension that our reality is painted on that we're constantly interacting with all SpaceTime is that that is almost like the underlying computer code of the program that we're in the holographic Principle as people would say and some people go no we don't live in a simulation I would say don't look at it like that at all I mean we know we're alive we know we're interacting right now and and that's what life is is enjoying these moments that we're having right now with one another uh so there's no the the world Universe being a holographic principle doesn't doesn't diminish any value of life in fact I argue and this is one of the more surprising things I'm GNA make a post about it later is that the more I dug into the science the more spiritual I be I became because I came to the conclusion that like our reality is a construct which means that somebody would have had to design it um which means that there would have to be a Creator so anyway go ahead Jake well no I'm I'm right there with you and the funny thing is you mentioned about the yin-yang is that yeah I totally get that we what you're saying about the into your yang for sure bro um and I would like to take that a step further because it it made me think about how the double tus field technically is a 3D yin yang it is a positive and negative electromagnetic field and the yinyang symbol is a two-dimensional image of this three-dimensional electromagnetic field now if the entirety of the universe is based off of electromagnetic fields being infinitely nested with one another which Holo Cipher is uh down there requesting I I want to bring him up uh when we open things up for questions because Ashton I think you're really going to like this guy um he he blew my mind when it came to the science behind the things that I'm talking about conceptually he understands the science and has done a lot of investigating much like yourself um I think that the three of us together would be like the three points of the triangle here and if we came together we could create a wormhole man I'm telling you um but the yin-yang field the electromagnetic field because everything is infinitely nested with these electromagnetic fields of higher or lower frequencies an atom has a yin-yang field right the galaxy has a yin-yang field our planet the sun Etc all of these yin-yang Fields our physical body has a yin-yang field then this is how the universe remains in Balance this is the how positive and negative charges and quantum entanglement all correlate with one another and coming back to what you're were saying about like negative energy or dark energy or dark matter then we could basically use this understanding of the yin yang positive and negative to say travel from one part of the galaxy to the other if the universe is in fact encapsulated by a what we could say maybe un Al or multiversal yin-yang field and if for example matter is the positive to this electromagnetic field or the yin then the negative energy could be the the Yang to this Yin and then if we learn how to Traverse through the yin we can move anywhere in the Yang or I'm sorry if we learn how to Traverse in the Yang we can move anywhere in the yin if we learn how to Traverse through the negative energy we can move anywhere in the positive energy because this electromagnetic yin-yang double Taurus field is intimately connected it it's Quantum entangled and if we understand the vector equilibrium and how it's able to be built on top of itself then we and we look at that asset that I've placed in the in the nest there then each of these different levels to this vector equilibrium are different harmonic wave vibrations that if we match them then we could very well be able to Traverse in that Dimension and then pop up elsewhere within physical SpaceTime and that's that's pretty much all I have to say I uh I just I I like that Yin yangang thing you said no we've been nailing it uh so yeah let's go to the next paper um so the second paper and this one will go a little bit quicker because a lot of it what you realize when you read these papers and I definitely recommend everybody out there read them for yourselves is that there's so many common elements they talk about so this one is traversible wormholes Stargates and negative energy and we've already talked about a lot of this is that negative energy is potentially just the exact equivalent to Dark Energy um and negative energy is essentially what The Ether the extra Dimension is filled with which is why we can have dark energy exist why the universe can expand faster than the speed of light um and then the idea of traversible wormholes is this idea that we can survive that we can walk through the Wormhole and this paper has a equations in there that show that you won't be ripped to shreds the gravitational forces of the Wormhole won't rip you to shreds but it also does mention the idea of not touching the basically like the edge of the Wormhole so you don't want to be like half in half out of the Wormhole you want to be fully inside that shell and you don't want to touch it now in your perspective it would appear as though you're just like walking right through it so it' be very tough but imagine like not touching the doorway you know you don't want to touch the door when you when you go through and why this is kind of interesting to read from the paper is that you can imagine the idea of the Philadelphia Experiment and in the Philadelphia Experiment supposedly it didn't go very well and what they were trying to do with the Philadelphia Experiment is they were trying to cloak the ship from electromagnetic signals using extremely powerful de gusers and you imagine that if they created a field and they didn't realize the field didn't encapsulate the entire ship and maybe it went through parts of the ship any of those people that were part touching that shell like that's why you have these pictures where people are stuck in the wall with half their arm going out or why you like messed up their brains because this kind of stuff can like mess up your internal you know thinking your internal organs all kinds of stuff out there which is the idea of like Havana syndrome and some of that stuff just imagine it like extremely powerful so I think that this technology could go all the way back to 1943 which was the Philadelphia Experiment and that that is potentially when we accidentally figured out oh whoops we actually can manipulate gravity we didn't realize that we screwed up when we rewrote those equations and ever since then government just been improving it for decades and decades and decades and potentially when quantum computers came out or super Advanced supercomputers that's when it just took off where like now you can like literally just have a supercomputer having these orbs create these perfect triangle formations that you know no one could actually fly like that um to produce some of these effects that otherwise we wouldn't be perfect enough to be able to recreate because like Jake said a lot of this has to do with harmonic resonance and things like that um but a computer can pull that off no problem problem um so the other thing this paper mentions is the idea of Stargates and so a Stargate is the same application of the technology of a wormhole but now you're making a permanent gate that is permanently entangled between two locations in fact some might argue that's even easier than creating a wormhole is that if you can entangle two points you set down where those two things are they're entangled then the only other issue is you don't want decoherence to occur and decoherence is what happens with supercomputers so supercomputers use entanglement themselves and the problem with it is you have to keep them very cold and even like disturbances like observing them like the double slid experiment just looking and a measuring can break down the coherent states of the cubits and if you get decoherent now your thing doesn't doesn't work anymore because now imagine you're looking at your Stargate and somebody got too close to it with a magnet or whatever and now your Stargate collapses um that's the kind that's the idea is that you need to be very stable but there's actually was a recent paper that said that they might have figured out a way to keep uh these types of systems cerent long enough where you could create like real potentially macroscopic Quantum effects teleportation and quantum teleportation has been proven uh it's been proven for actually many years at this point there's even records for how far people have teleported uh energy or potentially in the future uh information with faster than light communication using that um so Stargates are something that I would have thought would have been completely science fiction and now I look at it I think wow that's not even that's probably one of the more trivial aspects of this type of phys physics and Technology that's out there and it would be funny if there's people that actually have been through them and there's some pretty fun animations in there where people stick their arm through one side and then the Wormhole comes out the other and it looks all bizarre and funky um we already talked about the no Event Horizon with respect to a wormhole but that's another one of the big requirements that everybody should know because a lot of people think you're going to get ripped to shreds and you absolutely will not be ripped to shreds if you go through a wormhole or a Stargate um the energy requirement again is the big limitation if you go and watch if you like Google wormholes warp drive this type of stuff you'll find that physicists will say that it is possible uh what they say though is that the energy requirements not realistic that it would take this huge amount of energy but this is where we're already proposing Solutions right now on an X space we're saying that you can potentially reduce the energy requirement through two ways potentially by being able to slow the speed of light down which if you guys Google looking uh checking out stuff like where that slows the speed of light down there's actually experiments literally working on this right now and if plasma physics is the answer then there's one of our ways we can ruce we can make our shell very thin and then the other thing as well is that we can potentially amplify energy and if we have access to unlimited energy through the ether then we have all the negative energy we could possibly need then it's just a matter of engineering it to get the properties that we want um now with respected that some people may say okay well what about conservation of momentum like let's just talk the real physics with with respect to a warp bubble we don't really have an issue of conservation of momentum because if you put something inside a bubble and it from a perspective of the person inside the bubble they're going to appear on the other side instantly again like going through a doorway so if you were to walk through the doorway the mo you're going to come out on the other side the same speed you were going in this is true for any other object we have out there and because of that we have no issue of conservation and momentum but there are some physicists and Engineers that I spoke to that said no actually we can uh we can achieve inertial Mass reduction and if you're going to reduce the mass of your object this is the idea that you can actually defy Law of Conservation momentum and potentially just set something down so the idea that someone could go through a wormhole at 100 miles an hour and they come out on the other side and they come out at a rest or at like five miles an hour super slow and that's a big difference so this is another one of those things where it's like it may be that the initial uh um engineering of this technology doesn't allow for Mass reduction but potentially in the future it can be Advanced to a point where we can do stuff like that where all of it kind of seems like magic but it just gets even more more and more magical um and then the other one's conservation of energy so with respect to conservation of energy uh we have to think as to get around this idea of well you can't energy is neither created nor destroyed we have to think about opening our system up so I take Pac-Man's mouth close Pac-Man's mouth he gets hungry you open Pac-Man's mouth up now you have an open system and now this system you can put in a certain amount of energy to it it can actually use energy from the environment or from The Ether as we would call it and then you can get more local energy out of the system so in essence we haven't really violated the law of conservation of energy we've just reimagined it now I would still argue that you probably have to rewrite it so that you include the The Ether and the unlimited negative energy into your equation because it's kind of like cheating the system but if our ether has unlimited negative energy or practically unlimited essentially an infinite amount um then that is like that's how we can achieve some of these energy requirements and stuff like free energy that would seem otherwise impossible um so I think that's pretty much all the points in this second paper um it also goes through a lot of the images in terms of what the geometry of SpaceTime would look like in terms of SpaceTime being flat and this is where you just take like a in this case I'm taking a napkin or a piece of paper and you just bend it and you bend it and then you puncture a hole through it and that's the equivalent idea of a wormhole or a Stargate and that's just if you want to be able to visualize it um any thoughts on that Jake um well I guess I will just I guess I'll just say that the military-industrial complex as Eisenhower called it is comprised of not just governments but also intelligence agencies and corporations that are contracted with the government that are able to do things that the government uh is not able to do and um in the in the getting of these contracts their employees sign ndas they have security clearances they get massive checks that would incline them not to go public with this kind of information because they don't want to disrupt their Cash Cow and because the ramifications of opening their mouth or violating their NDA or their security clearance are just enormous we're talking being locked in a prison cell for 20 years or or more possibly being executed on charges of treason um their families being ostracized and harassed no way of ever getting a job or living a normal life um and if we look at for example the um the Manhattan Project and how that whole thing was so compartmentalized that nobody even knew we had the atomic bomb until we had it dropped it and then it went public uh and how it is that there was like I think something like 10,000 employees in a city that the military built out in the middle of the New Mexico desert and they worked on it for years without anybody knowing a thing that was going on so the type of technology that we're talking about is easily compartmentalized through non-disclosure agreements security clearances and large checks also it's important to note here that the types of technology that we are talking about would and it's this is just a matter of fact disrupt the current economy that is being used to generate all of the funds the taxpayer money necessary to fund these government contracts Etc so if this technology were to go public then all of the people that are working in this economy and generating all of this money now all that money goes out the window because there's no there's no eon the way that it existed before and all of these slaves doing slave labor with minimal understanding of physics or of technology and the advancements are now privy to the secret also with respect to what it is that we're talking about about compartmentalization and ndas Etc a lot of these scientists they don't necessarily know the totality of the big picture they are just given a little compartmentalized piece of the puzzle they then work on and then people above them are the ones that put the puzzle pieces together and have this larger compartmentalized understanding of the projects or the special access programs the black budget projects that are being worked on by these individuals that are compartmentalized that being said um the military-industrial complex has from what I understand Advanced something like seven to 10 10 years for every year that they have been around since like World War II so if that is true let's just say it's the low number of seven years and World War II was over oh what you know 80 years ago something like that then what's I'm not a math Guy what's seven times 80 right yeah so that means we are literally hundreds of years ahead of what is on the surface and this Breakaway civilization that is literally under our feet is very very real and it's all compartmentalized and the final point that I will make regarding what you were saying earlier about Stargates and people just being able to walk through them is I don't know if you've done a lot of research into secret space program whistleblowers or what have you but there are stories many different stories of how it is that these individuals say go into what normally seems like on the surface a normal looking building they get into an elevator they slide their little key card in they get their ey scanned they press a button and then the elevator takes them through a wormhole and then lo and behold they're on the other side of the planet or in some cases some of these people have said they're like on the moon or on Mars so this type of technology has been spoken about on several different occasions and the final point I'd like to make is is that now some people may roll their eyes when I mention this but Looking Glass Technology is also something that can be factored in here because if you understand how it is that everything is quantum entangled and if you understand the laws of physics then you can essentially use the types of physics that we're talking about to both peer in the past and to peer into the future through one of these Bubbles and access the quantum entangled information that exists in this probability wave that is in the quantum realm so there's a lot of testimony that corroborates what it is that you're talking about Ashton the thing is is that a lot of people have been written off they have been uh maligned they have been uh just completely ignored um and people like Bob Lazar and this is the final point that I'll make people like Bob Lazar were one of the few courageous people that came out and started talking about this stuff and he talked about Element 115 long long before we ever even knew it existed and was placed on the elemental chart yeah the sad part about Bob laar if you guys watch his Joe Rogan appearances you know gets asked like if you could do it all over would you do it again and his response is no no I got to play with magical technology got his life ruined had nobody believed anything he was saying and he goes no I wouldn't do it all again and for the people that would say how do you keep this stuff secret well that's how cuz nobody's going to believe you if you come out anyway the people that do come out they send all their disinformation apparatus to destroy their lives you've probably seen that from any half a dozen or maybe even a dozen people that are out there anyone goes against the the Deep State or the elite cover Elite whatever you want to call them you know they use all the media to go after them they find something in their past use it against them it's a big information War that's out there that's just the reality of it uh for it to be kept this secret this long that's what it would have to be now I agree with Jake that the military is a breakaway civilization I think that they've achieved that level if you've achieved the ability to warp an object uh just like a plane or some other car with some crazy super conductive harmonic orbs um but what I would say is that the technology is not an invention so it's not that there's like a Time requirement to figure it out doesn't take you 500 years to figure it out you can actually catch up because it's a discovery it's equivalent to the discovery of fire for cavemen it's something that was always out there you were always able to make fire you just had to figure it out once you figure it out it became trivial after that that's the same thing with the unification theory of uh Quantum field Theory and general relativity quantum mechanics and and stuff that's macro siiz very large um so how do you do this people would ask well and going back to what Jake said about SSP or what have you or special access programs I know the special access programs are real out there and so we're talking about these defense contractor Labs like north of Grumman uh locked uh Batel Institute Boeing Phantom Works uh saic a lot of these people have got private labs and they do contracts with these Engineers people like Bob bzar uh people that are either work independently through llc's or they work directly for the government so salvator pasz Works directly for the Navy I think Eric Davis Works directly for the government as well like I don't know if he's independent people like Shanker Patrick who is the head of AO has his own LLC now I'm sure he's working on these kinds of labs uh I've intr I've interviewed other people that work on them as well and and they will pretty much just be open and say that yeah they're dealing with technology as magic the government goes through them so they're protected from foyer requests this is how they keep it secret and none of these people have any uh reason to talk about it they don't want to risk their lives their family's lives they don't want to risk their money they're getting paid a lot a lot of money to do the stuff they do and they get to work with magic like Bob Lazar said so now you understand how it's kept secret in order to produce uh the effects that we need one of the things that one of these papers actually just tells us it says you need Patt lasers that are essentially only available in these private Labs so it's not the type of situation that in order to make a gravity like a you know some type of effects that we see like in the MH370 videos we need something more than just like a household offthe shelf you know $20 like laser thing pointer that you're going to buy at Walmart you know we need something that in I'll just read it off to you guys so you can hear it directly in a handful of labs scattered across the country pwat lasers are being built and tested these are lasers with profound capability able to generate short laser pulses of uh of intensity of 10 uh oh crap oh 10 to the hold on I the thing messed up um here it is 10 to the 15 watts per meter squared with Peak Focus power densities greater than 10^ the 27 watts per meter cubed and energy densities of 10 to the 16 jewles per meter cube now why is this important is that the swinger limit where uh SpaceTime becomes nonlinear which you could argue is like ripping through the hole in the fabric of reality is potentially I think 10 to the 32 uh I think it's Jewels per meter cubed I don't think it's Watts I'd have to double check but the idea here is that we're looking at lasers that are essentially half of the requirement that we need or more in order to achieve what we think is going to break down through the fabric of reality um so these are extremely powerful lasers and then it says if it were possible to construct an exotic device whose energy output had W less than less than one then the calculations identical to those uh generate Table Three which is how much energy you need to produce a wormhole it would seem straightforward to show that the energy density produced by an analogous Dark Energy laser would translate into a local expansion of space corresponding to V warp equals 10us 13 or 10 Theus 5 m per second I believe for every meter that the space that the laser travels so basically it's saying there that we are going to create a dark energy laser it's going to create space in front of us by shooting a laser beam and then it says at the end it may be possible to construct an experiment that could measure the modified expansion of space along the length of such a laser to test the predictions of this paper so it's basically saying we can potentially create dark energy or tap into The Ether here by creating a pulse laser effect of extremely high energy densities uh maybe we shoot two lasers at each other and then we have the laap and then maybe that's how we can produce it I'm just speculating um now the one of these papers also mentions the idea that you can actually produce negative energy in a lab and it's actually already been proven so essentially what we just described right there has been proven on small scales and Labs out there already so we know we can produce essentially small amounts of negative energy the question is how do we produce very large amounts and we talked about that before now one of the other things one of these papers mentions this idea of this lensing so if we know gravitational lensing gravitational lensing if I look at a black hole has a huge gravitational force if there's a star behind it what you see when you look in the night sky is you see like four points of light like bending around like in a in a circle formation around the black hole we can actually see behind the black hole and that's because it's bending SpaceTime around it and to such a high degree that it creates this uh almost like you take a wine glass with water on it and put it on your on a table and then pick it up and you're going to see this ring there that's essentially what we see with lensing and the reason why this is interesting is when we look at the MH370 video we see in the last frame right before the Wormhole the mouth of the Wormhole opens we see the orbs flatten entirely there spheres and all of a sudden they flatten we can even see the plane bending and actually gets a little bit smaller and blurry which is the idea of a similar lensing effect happening in the very frame right before the Wormhole opens up which is a pretty goddamn weird detail pardon my French to add into your hoax video if it was fake now this is also what I'll say in those videos when we see this uh phase transition occur in the satellite video we see a flash a lot of people wondered why are we seeing a flash especially when we look at the Drone video we see this cold endothermic event which is an absorption of energy you would think if you see this absorption of energy that's kind of like a black hole you wouldn't see a flash well this second paper says this when black when background light rays strike a negative energy lensing region they are swept out of the central region thus creating an umbra region of zero intensity the lensing of negative energy region is not analogous to the diverging lens because in a certain circumstances it can produce more light enhancement than does the lensing of equivalent positive energy region which to me if I'm interpreting that correctly says that all the light that would hit your Wormhole is going to sh bounce off of it like a mirror and potentially even be Amplified to some point like a diverging lens it says and it can potentially produce more light enhancement than does the lensing of an equivalent positive energy region which is basically saying that you're going to have a flash happen from that which to me is wild when I read that because then it brings up the idea of like okay especially for what I've been digging into if that m270 videos are fake why are there so many details that nobody on Earth would have ever predicted in a paper from 2010 which I don't even know how many people had read it in 2014 probably not very many and how many people less than that took it seriously um so I'm just going to say these last few things as well related to this because we're we're going a little bit over here but so Quantum coherence is another thing that you hear a lot in a lot of these papers so you know I kind of look for some of the patterns and some of these papers and some of the terms they bring up Quantum coherence is one that comes up a lot and this is analogous to what we're talking about with having your waves cancel each other out uh it's also analogous in superconductivity when superconductivity electrons they say form electron pairs Cooper Pairs and then they begin they get this coherence and you can imagine a coherent wave of matter coherent wave of electrons is essentially what super conductivity is and Quantum coherence seems to give rise to second order effects which is uh like creating a new type of effect that the original would not be able to create um and one thing that we see this in is like holography which is Optical phase conjugation there's the idea of turning a 2d picture into a 3D hologram and you use Optics and lasers in order to do that actually it's very similar to the idea of macroscopic phase conjugation but that's just an example of something that would be a second order effect so what is a second order of effect of two lasers shooting each other two phot beams of photons concentrated photons maybe it's anti-gravity maybe it's bending SpaceTime you know I'm just I'm speculating there but I'm trying to give you an analogy to think about um so plasma physics and semiconductors seem to be the secrets to this advanced technology now I'm not telling you what to think here but I'm just throwing some ideas out there based on what I've seen uh based on what I've heard the idea of superc conductivity is extremely important superconductive microchips are used in like all advanced technology including quantum computers um a as well as potentially what we see in those MH370 videos you can potentially create a wafer which is like a microchip right and then um you know have something that could produce some of these Advanced effects and I say that because there's a Lockheed Martin patent for a coherent matter wave beam which goes back to this idea again of quantum coherence I think that's the secret personally uh of how you produce these types of effects and how the government has produced them and this would explain why semiconductor Industries their stocks have just been going crazy and why it's like such a highly protected industry with respect to intellectual property is that whoever has the best semiconductors the smallest semiconductors that can produce these types of effects you're going to have the best output you're going to be able to do the craziest most magical stuff uh and then the last idea here is radar so radar we would think it's like ranging and detection whatever that's what radar stands for we think of it as a passive device but if you Radars used from uh they use electromagnetic signals and you bounce it off your object and phase conjugation this idea if you bounce your electromagnetic signal off an object like a mirror it's going to bounce directly back in in the exact opposite of what it came which is going to potentially cancel out your your wave function which is the same thing we were trying to do when we're trying to get things in harmonic uh resonance and it turns out that if you do this as we pointed out with the max will equations is if we cancel that out well what do we get we get the stress in the medium so then opens up all of a sudden this idea that radar when used with phase conjugation can produce scal potentials so you could imagine this idea of creating a scal beam that you can shoot and Thomas Bearden in the 80s promoted this idea that well it looks like there's nothing there because you've canceled out your wave functions perfectly from electromagnetic perspective but the stress is still there and if we then take two of those beams and we cross them we can create an interference Zone where you have constructive and destructive interference and this is how you can either produce energy at a distance uh or you can potentially remove energy at a distance a cold explosion um and so this is I think opens the door to scaler physics the unification of uh quantum mechanics as well as macroscopic effects and tapping in to that ether because the only way that we can produce these types of scalar beams uh is the idea that our wave is propagating through a medium that we don't perceive which is potentially The Ether and what that means is going from a transverse wave imagine like a sign wave or an oce wave to a situation where it becomes like a sound wave a longitudinal wave Through The Ether um and so this is kind of how we unify a lot of these Concepts and potentially the exact types of technology to create this stuff so the last thing I would have you remember and think is like what Eric Hecker said on the Sha Ryan show is that people need to learn the idea of directed energy weapons because radar is not simply a passive device electromagnetic uh um anything that can transmit electromagnetic signals can potentially be used as a weapon which I think is kind of a mind-blowing thing at least for me there you go Jake well grab another I want to start by saying that the human body the electromagnetic field of the body actually emits scalar waves and they affect the longitudal lines of the earth so this is intimately connected into what you're talking about about like scalar waves and scalar energy affecting longitudal lines of the universe and if the longitudal lines of the universe and the Earth are intimately connected also with our bodies then this may be how it is that from a physics standpoint we are able to Traverse wormholes and move throughout space and time in that regard because we are intimately connected to the very fabric of the universe itself now that being said I think it's also important to mention based on what you were saying earlier about the there being no Event Horizon and the Flash of light that came out of or off of the the Wormhole that was created in that video of of the MH370 is are are you familiar with tensor networks uh not really but stress tensor is definitely one of the physics Concepts I want to get a better idea on because I do think it's related to this idea of stress in the medium well tensor networks from from what I understand are basically how it is that the universe is quantum entangled and how it is that we can have multiple different realities that are kind of based Bas off of a similar frequency but if and when the quantum entangled frequency of certain particles changes enough then you can end up getting like a bifurcation or like a splitting of the bubble of the tensor Network and you can get dualistic realities that kind of overlap one another or at least are tangentially connected to one another and basically like the creation of a universe that is like a Quantum entangled version uh like the positive and negative charges for like what would be normally Quantum particles and how they are quantum entangled but also like that on a macro scale so this is how it could involve like the creation of different universes within the Multiverse and in order for something like a wormhole to be traversed or even created you would have to intimately understand things like tensor networks and how it relates to quantum entanglement so so that you could move something from one place to another within that tensor Network without moving to another version of reality itself or another version of the Universe I want to add something real quick in there too which is that the brain you have your left and right hemisphere as well is that I've seen some arguments that that's you know inter scaler interferometry Network itself you know both if you imagine like Consciousness like interacting with reality which I think is pretty cool um just because we are running a little short in time do you want to pull some people up and then we can have them ask questions and you can kind of opine a little bit more or whatever absolutely um I'm going to bring Holo Cipher up real quick because uh this dude blew my mind and I I would love to hear him and you Converse a little bit and then we'll get to some other people okay yeah I'm on my desktop so like my thing's all kind of buggy I don't know or not so I'll leter go ahead brother if you have something you'd like to say or questions you'd like to ask maybe I surprised him he's not uh unmuting his mic um Holo Cipher are you there sir okay well then we will go to somebody else until he is able to get to his mic um I think I saw D dcoin has been there waiting patiently um I don't know where Source just went but I was going to bring him up um a part of one and uh um let's see love of humanity has been waiting a while um Prometheus has been waiting uh AJ I got you um oh where where did H suppos to ask questions or just you know talk about let's try to keep it to questions okay yeah yeah good call yeah because then you know we'll go way too long um Holo Cipher can you hear now yeah I don't know that was weird you brought me up and it just cashed out my network connection so hopefully you can hear he me yes sir feel free to speak ask questions um Holo Cipher this is Ashton Ashton Holo Cipher um ashon I'll just tell you Holo Cipher blew my mind in space and ever since then I've been I I really like hearing what he has to say I like how it's at is fractal universe so uh or fractal verse that's pretty cool well there's a good reason for that isn't there I mean the further you dig into this um the further you start to see that there is a uh whether it's from a cosmological sort of standpoint that you see fractal displacement through the clustering configuration of the say the local star cluster um we see that there's uh batner and Kalisto came up with the egg carton Network Theory which isn't much of an egg carton it's more of an octahedral lce structure which I guess is a good way to enter into all this right but uh there's also fractal uh just to finish that off fractal verse fractality fractal nested networks within the brain uh itself within the microtubulin and within our you know our bloodb brain barrier and everything is essentially uh we have crystals on the inside of our skull for example tuned very specifically to the Resonance of the planet uh and so we have a fractal identity on the micro and the macro scale and obviously our job right now is to pull those two uh ends of the pool together so they can talk and so I've made some notes of everything you guys have said you kind of where I chimed in and started listening to you guys you were talking about the uh the vector equilibrium which had to do with uh I don't know how much I missed before that but uh of course like having read through all Buck Mr Fuller's material I could definitely say a few things on that uh because my starting point other than you know perhaps a lot of people had read you know Graham Hancock and got their their feathers wet a bit there and got kind of more curious as to how this technology was uh clearly utilized and ancient Past Times and when you you kind of start pulling on that you see there's a sacred geometry principle behind that and now we're sort of getting back to that with respect to kind of how to implement that on different levels of technology so I think what's interesting too is that the uh the vector equilibrium um it's uh for me kind of special because uh I have my job is to kind of bring out the temporal topology or temporal mechanics and just explain this last sort of vage of of uh physics where uh say for example uh lee smallen uh he had discussed in several of his books really that the critical component that we seem at least from his point to be missing out on is time so what does time have to do with the vector equilibrium well isn't this interesting when you take into Buck Mr Fuller's system accounting which was always done with the tetrahedron tetrahedron was essentially like his bottom like his Penny if you will and in terms of volume metrics it takes 20 of these tetrahedral pennies to account for a vector equilibrium well isn't that interesting because we have several ancient calendrical systems um not just calendrical systems but what integrated into some of the actual uh social political integration such as uh in ancient Norway they used the vemal system but also in Sumeria and in the Maya uh all three of the Maya calendars all used vjo its base counting um obviously they had individual days but the 20-day was quintessential for time count for whatever reason and so when we're looking at Quantum topology as say vector equilibrium or as Buck Mr Fuller he thought it was so important okay um first of all I should briefly outline quickly that the vector equilibrium is something that Bucky thought was capable of being at the heart of all the topology so if you started with the tetrahedron you can kind of truncate that down in half what he called wavelength or Edge elements so you can truncate a star tetrahedron becomes an O octahedron an octahedron then becomes a Cubo octahedron and through this self uh well this is having to do with station and truncation of topologies and through that process we can actually discover more inner nested features so while you guys are looking at uh Jake's description of self- nested um Cub octahedron or vector equilibrium so Bucky gave it that special name he actually kind of put it up on the the pedestal of saying it needs a new name because of how you replace the the meeting points of those edges with sphere centers and you start to see the spherical representation of this which gets us into a lot of how biology nests itself and so forth so there's an interesting interaction that I want to get to though I don't want to stay hung up on uh sacred geometry too too long but for those of you interested certainly there's lots of material with uh there's a book written about Bucky's work it's much easier and much more approachable than synergistics it's called Everything I Know by AMC Edmonson it's a great book to get your beak wet on that um moving forward though trying to connect more so than just Quantum topology with time but actually getting to some of like for example I'm going to jump a bit around here but we I'm sure a lot of you are familiar with and we got to get to of course wormholes and natural wormholes that are going to be taking place in this next few days which is what they readily admit are called electron diffusion regions or edrs this work is being done mostly by University of Iowa um and he discusses this is where the uh entanglement of the solar wind uh meets with the geomagnetic uh filaments if you will so we got filaments from the Sun and we got filaments on around the earth and it's when those connect that we have moments to observe and we have a satellite cluster configurations that can do real volumetric analysis so they can give us a breakdown of how these events happen they're very brief but they give us a glimpse as to Natural worm holes and how they work of course as uh Ashton was saying to open up a sizable Wormhole that as the standard physics will tell you takes the energy m equivalent of Jupiter which only denotes how disparagingly uh remote current physics is to approaching this but it still gives you an idea of the sort of Leverage that you need to have but you know if you get over to what Hal POF was saying uh with Eric Weinstein on American Alchemy he discusses for example there being enough energy within a glass of water um to essentially boil off the entire oceans we've heard this probably from several others as well but this gives us an idea of how a potential amount of energy is available in a given amount of volume and that if it just takes a little bit of rejigging with our physics to get there things that we're seeing that seem magical they seem beyond our approach other than maybe through a Sci-Fi lens become a lot more approachable as does traveling super luminal etc etc so we have very good examples that did appear in the public for a very brief period of time such as ugv pnov in the late n well mid 90s he came out with several papers addressing uh gravity impulse uh capabilities and that in that case was a superconductor of like kind of like a ring at ring if you will that was made out of a basically a type two superconductor and they had noticed that it was shielding about 3% of gravity at that time because they were smoking in the lab and I know they weren't supposed to but the smoke was being attracted above their a superconductor and they got to measuring weights above it and of course they found yes indeed not just in that floor in that room they noticed every floor above them impeded not by matter that there was a 3% Mass reduction and that's literally the only real example we have of mass uh reduction in the sort of public prview and as per there's several Papers written on it uh we found out through later studies that early 2000s he he published some papers that showed that gravity potentially was traveling at 60 four times the speed of light uh which may denote the frequency of gravity has an ability to travel at different velocities or you know factors of of the speed of light um and so this gets us into sort of T towns and brown um which we found out from another American Alchemy interview that t towns and brown in later stages of his life was very interested in this thing called siderial radiation which gets to how planetary frequencies are affecting potentially gravity which is also dovetailing into Rupert sheldrick's work where he discusses the Big G changing as if it was like the stock market and how Metrology people in in the UK had standardized and fixed it to the speed of light so uh or to the sorry to the second uh as a you know SI interval of Imperial standard of measurement so that they would fix that and not take note of the fact of what was changing that that's where the critical uh intersection lies now I just want to touch on Quantum coherence real quick because obviously the uh Declassified work of dro hobo Greenberg silver bomb from the 90s we found his papers released in the early 2000s from the CIA reading room which showed uh coherent states which are obviously Quantum in the brain which we know from the work of uh whether it's sarfatti and bom with the buium theory or Penrose and Hammer off with the orc orc Theory so there's you know plenty of theories to go around but the fact is it's the quantum coherence state that actually has this which he called cgic Theory which has the ability to essentially take neuronal fields or neurological fields that are around the head and around your body and through coherent States interact with the SpaceTime metric which gets back to what Koff was saying with Weinstein that they could engineer and alter me and new these so factors of altering the SpaceTime metric the permitivity and permeability they said was engineerable like holy people like that's crazy that we're actually broaching these topics that were always fairly classified so it's like slowly but surely if we keep pulling on the string I swear to God if we could get help bu off in his space and we could actually like ask him like a like I'm sure between the three of us man we could really go to town with this guy but I don't is he ever going to get cleared for a conversation with the public I don't know but I question I've asked and apparently doesn't have any doesn't have any um will to want to do it uh oh come on speaks to the idea though of like a lot of these Engineers that are in the know that are part of these Labs like they they don't have any there's no cost benefit for them to go do that like what they don't want to be famous you know they're not trying to be a celebrity uh they're getting paid maybe even millions of dollars you know they're well-endowed they don't want um you know their families whoa okay hold on whoa whoever unmuted themselves do not do that again um so by all means go ahead Ashton thank you um so then the other things I want to say Hollow ciper you had some really good points there I think especially near the end where you were talking about the put off winstein um Jesse Michaels uh interview I've I've spoken to Jesse Michaels a few times myself actually and he's of course he's pretty skeptical about like the stuff that I put forth related to some of this but he's open-minded about it I think he's an incredibly smart guy and I think that it's because one of the aspects if you want to learn this uh a good skill to have is to be a student of history and that's one of the things I think Jake is really good at because he knows history really well and Jesse Michaels was a history major I believe as well because it turns out that all this stuff we don't have to discover new science the science is all out there that's the saddest part you just have to do a history lesson and look into it so like all you were mentioning I think pot kov as well uh who did worked with uh superconductors superc conductors again it's just a perfectly conductive semiconductor you know this is why I talk about the idea of semiconductors are one of the main aspects to make this technology work and uh a lot of these anti-gravity scientists were working with semi superconductors so po kof was doing it uh ning Lee uh which I posted about and people talk about a lot you know she quotequote disappeared but really the rumor is she just like went into DOD Contracting for private labs including like locky Martin um and that's what they do they just suck you in um I know that because people have just told me directly um and then Amy ESD is one of the more recent ones where she passed away a couple years ago um the official story is that she committed suicide just in case people want to know um and even if she did you could imagine like if you know this technology is real they have to have staff psychologists on hand because imagine you go and you're working on like straight up anti-gravity and then you got to jump in your gas powered car when you know we could be living in a world of zero ution free energy for everybody and you got to go fill up and pay $5 a gallon for gas in your completely obsolete car like imagine what that does to your psyche and then if you come out and tell anybody they're just going to think you're nuts like how that's just got to mess people up so Amy is with us in spirit right now uh I just I know that I just feel that um she's somebody that wanted Tucker Carlson to know about this uh the clip I may post again later where she says like Tucker Carlson will be the guy to to bring this forward and I think he is because he talked to Jake Jake talked about the Salvador P patents I think Tucker's interested in this ufology and what it means um so I hope that one day we can bring this information to him and uh get it to a huge audience uh think that's all I wanted to say thanks a lot holl for great comments man yes thank you y thank you all right um since we're kind of running low on time here we're gonna try to hop around as fast as we can um I think that somebody that's been waiting a long time was God's Source or I need a little break I was happy let and we'll go to love Humanity after that you want me to post a clip of what we just said right there Source that's you man I can probably do that later okay check there we go okay go ahead I was waiting for you to open your mic we couldn't hear you he dropped down um I'll try to bring it back up next we will go I'll to talk later I think it was uh actually no we're gonna go to a part of one and then we'll go over to love Humanity uh how y'all doing how y'all doing oh I wanted to um not clarify but give some some importance on what y was talking about about um the Earth having like this electrical magnetic field that uh is influencing the body and basically this uh crystals in our brain is called magnetite crystals and every Animal Planet that's know uses the magnite crystals to navigate you know the weather and where to go when it gets cold when the season changes and we we uh as humans we not trained or you know live or studied this type of information on a reg basis so I feel like if we try to understand this more often and understand how inter interly connected that our body is with the universe these technologies that y discussing will be more um accessible to the world Roger that I agree um let's try to go over to love Humanity if we can if we can try to keep this to questions you guys really running low on time and I while we have Ashton here and his knowledge available I think it would be really good for us to use this uh Prime opportunity to to get some clarification on the things that we've discussed in the space so go ahead love Humanity okay we're not going there sorry about that your mic's all funky so removing you from speaker sorry all right so let's go to God Source uh again hey how's it going wonderful space nice to meet you Ashton um trusting this this new era of um big S institutionalized science when um basically knowing what we do about Quantum uh collapse Quantum function collapse just just the basic stuff would tell you that you really need to trust your own eyes and not instrumentation that has to be converted into binary and given back to you because it's going to show you what if this if this is a simulation or or whatever uh it's going to show you what that would would be but not maybe what it is or maybe not what it potentially could be if you didn't even look and um so yeah the idea of like us sending out satellites that are looking you know potentially billions of Miles off into the Yonder and collapsing those probabilistic places that you know maybe there's nice nice cultures of who knows what existing in those probabilities and we're collapsing them all um I don't know it can we even trust that that's legitimate or is it just something that might be pulling the over our eyes how we this if this was a simulation could could we trust our instrumentation or is it basically you know is that not within our reach thank you very much yeah I think that's a tough one to answer in terms of if our reality's holographic principle where does the magic end and where does the the foundation basis for science begin that's certainly one thing that I uh you know I'm careful about I want to say is that I try even though we may have stuff that seems like magic okay well what is that that mean there's still got to be limitations out there doesn't mean that every possible thing is Magic you know there's still got to be some foundation for it so this is where like I'd like to talk about trying to build up from a scientific uh standard to these ideas that are uh bigger and bigger bigger questions um now I think the other thing you said uh what was it um related to what what what can we trust uh that's out there um again I think that that we have to use the scientific method and old scientific method is uh science is the study of observable reality so this is the thing too that I think a lot of science wrong where it's specific go ahead I'm sorry go ahead Ashton and then we'll go back to you Source I just want Ashton to finish this thought please yep so I was just going to say science is the study of observable reality and a lot of science would say that okay your science is built up based on scientific papers or what have you but people forget that like no science is actually what we see and observe and then the paper are us trying to explain what we see and observe go ahead yeah yeah um I completely agree with the the methodological aspect I was kind of wondering why certain Nikon cameras that are now discontinued and only being used by NASA seem to show a perfectly magnified version of what the eye sees versus a digitally reconstructed um is is that really what we're looking at it's almost like your you know DSLR camera or whatever kind of digital um binary you know telescope is is reconstructing this image in a way that is completely different than how the eye sees it in this place and um you know we it's like I was trying to look for these cameras and they're all discontinued now I have to find a used one and I just started thinking like what is the difference physically like what are they doing that that doesn't collapse the wave function are are you asking that based on the notion that digital cameras or telescopes in general are actually absorbing far more information than the human eye and that because of that what we're getting back must be in some way shape or form kind of doctored so that we could see it as we would like to see it versus as it actually is is that what you're getting at I have a very good visual Acuity and I've watched the stars for so long and when someone shows me the the weird Nikon image of the dancing simatic sphere it's like yes that's what I'm seeing that's what I'm seeing up there and it boggles my mind and then when someone else is like no here's what you're looking at this is from NASA it's like and they're discontinuing them for for you know commercial use but they're keeping them for themselves and it's like something's happening here and I think it's it's like I don't think they have to doctor every image I think it's built into the simulation yeah well I think Ashton and likely Holo Cipher would agree with me when I say we know NASA is not telling us everything that there is to know they are and have been a Nazi front for a long time you know Vernon was a Nazi a paperclip Nazi so um there's a lot that were not being told I think NASA's also kind of like a money-laundering machine for special access programs and the secret space program so um Ashton did you have anything you want to say on that before I move on to somebody else no it's not really my area of expertise but I will say NASA is definitely not a straight answer so yeah don't trust a single damn thing NASA says totally all right um let's go to um I think we had AJ media has been been waiting a while we'll also go to AJ um Holo Cipher I'm gonna come back to you we will I'll let you have the last question just because I'm sure there's going to be a lot of things that you can go into or here and uh we'll have comment on um then after that we will go to Prometheus so it's going to go AJ media AJ Drome metheus then we're going to go over to Soul and then 33 um a part of one is if you can make it brief then cool we'll come back to you and then holos Cipher and then Ashton I'll wrap it up oh and don't take it personally if and when you're done with your question I'm going to drop you guys down hi Ashen so in in terms of the uh the radar system so you you talk about how uh you know the radar systems are what produce the scaler potential via phase conjugation and and that they're not just you know you know basically detection systems is there some uh references of things you could look at to look at the specs of how these radar systems work if you kind of want to learn uh more about the the technology of that um and then also a couple other things um you you mentioned that you had submitted to the AO uh the names of a couple folks including Joseph Dunford with lockie Martin uh can you talk about that because it seem like there there were direct connections with these agencies that uh that did uh testify to their knowledge that these videos are real the technology is real uh and then just lastly you know if you're kind of doing in you know kind of your own independent research trying to assist with the case what what do you think is the next thing that should be done in terms of looking looking at just Solutions what what can be done um like say you're trying to do your own independent research trying to assist with the case to you know try to get this information uh more known or try to get responses from some of these you know government agencies and such yeah great questions let's start with the last one so I can keep them all in my head here um if you want to do help out I think just bringing awareness is the best thing and I know that doesn't seem very proactive but it's really the problem we face is one of conscious awareness and waking people up and when we reach a certain level of Consciousness I think that the truth will become self-evident out there um harassing people isn't really going to get us there trying to force people to believe the stuff's not going to get us there um I have it now on really good authority that the videos are real and that people that are very prominent have seen it and are talking about them in ways that uh that they're that they're taking it seriously and they're saying a lot of the same stuff that we're saying here from a physics perspective as well um as well as the stuff that Thomas Bearden had mentioned as well and even other stuff as well which is honestly just blows my mind um but you know Joseph Dunford is one where I've told a story many times where supposedly his nephew was shown the videos and somebody who's friends with the nephew told about it and if the whole thing seemed very credible there was no gotcha at the end they never came out like I lied to this guy you know he like literally begged me to delete the post about it because I showed the screenshots of the communications and that person had to delete all their social media after that so it was pretty damn bizarre um and They begged me to delete the post which I ended up doing and then I ended up reposting it later on with uh removing all the social media tags of the person um so I I and Joseph Dunford would have been the guy who potentially would have been in charge of the mission and he got promoted to the highest ranked military officer afterwards in the entire United States like literally the adviser of the president Joy Chiefs of Staff Secretary of Defense uh for four years under both Obama and Trump and then he retired in 2019 became board of directors on looh Martin and this is a good plug for what just began which we'll go to after this is the um my interview with uh Ian Carroll uh just started um we recorded it a little while ago and in there he pulls up the board of directors locky Martin he's like I heard you talking about this guy and he goes to Joseph Dunford and it turns out that he's on like some special committee within the board of directors at lockie Martin as well and there's a bunch of like ex-military generals and stuff that are on their board of directors so extremely sketchy in terms of the fact that this guy gets this huge promotion he's also the one that started space force for president Trump um so like if there's somebody hiding Secrets guys like Joseph Dunford is a guy he's a guy who I didn't even know who he was before before this person drops his name to me um so yeah I think that's I think that answers your questions um yeah so I think that they know about it and the question is like holy like how long are they hiding this and how many people know so anyway hopefully that answers your questions man good questions all right we're going to AJ let's try to make it fast so because I know Ashton probably wants to get in the chat that he was a of the video that he was in with the Ian you got it Jake I just wanted to ask the hosts um uh what's your opinion on De ja Vu cuz like in the movie The Matrix uh the guy sees the cat cross his path twice and they say it's just a glitch in The Matrix I wonder if that's more than just an allegory like it does it have to do with alternate realities or um you know or is it just our BL brain playing a trick on us I just I know it's a different topic but I've been waiting to ask since you were talking about alternate universes about 20 minutes ago yeah and I'll go real quick on mine and then Jay can take it because I think that I don't think that the ether represents an alternate universe but that doesn't rule it out uh if you listen to my interview I did with Tom monok guy's a genius and one of the things he brought is this idea of like time loops and you can imagine a Clos time Loop like the show TV show dark or like the movie tenant where whatever happened always happened but you could also imagine what if there's multiple loops and every person has different loops and those Loops are constantly interacting that could create this idea of alternate timelines and it definitely comes up with a respect of super luminal travel uh faster than light speed because it does beg the question like okay we know time real we can travel to the future but can we travel to the Past like can we teleport from Mars to Earth and then look up and see ourselves waving at ourselves uh pretty weird Concepts to think about for me personally Deja Vu has been instrumental in my life I have had numerous Deja vus where I have had visions of the future that later came into fruition and came to be re a reality and in many cases there was very spefic specific messages and information that were almost encoded into the deja vu that if like I had this Deja Vu at this time then that meant X Y and Z and if I do an act on X Y and Z then I can do an act on a b and c and affect the timeline so in Shamanism visions of the future where Deja Vu what have you Dreamscape and in the dream world they all kind of interlace and inter weave together to create a larger view of SpaceTime so with that said let us not forget that everything is made up of energy and that includes our Consciousness our Consciousness is essentially this what Quantum physicists call non-local Consciousness it is the signal of self-awareness that permeates all creation and impregnates all of matter with some form of life this also plays into Shamanism and the notion of animism so if Consciousness is essentially or mind is creating reality then we if we have the ability to create vehicles that can Traverse SpaceTime then we can also use Consciousness to do the same thing and when it comes to Deja Vu or visions of the future I would have you look into tachon and the fact that tachon travel so fast through what we consider space and time they basically travel backward through space and time from the future to the past as opposed to you know things moving from the past to the Future so if there are other Quantum particles not just tons which there are I just can't remember the name of them that travel backward through space and time then they are encoded with information this is how and why it is that you are able to if you're thirsty get up from your chair walk across the room and grab yourself some water because in your mind you saw that future of you getting up moving your three-dimensional body through the fourth dimension of time to this fifth dimensional probability that exists within the larger probability wave of SpaceTime so that means that if you expand your Consciousness to these higher harmonic vibrations to these higher octaves of self-awareness beyond the physical then you can essentially tap into this extra Dimension that talking about being tapped in through into through technology and you can essentially travel through SpaceTime you can skip across the dimension of time the way that we talked about earlier these vehicles are doing you can skip across these dimensions of time the way that a rock skips across water and you can end up perceiving information from the future and then act on it so I think that Deja Vu is similar to that I also personally think that it is evidence that we're on the right track mentally emot emotionally spiritually physically um and that being said uh I think that when we understand that the stuff that we're talking about achieving technologically through craft or the understanding the laws of physics are also able to be done with our Consciousness field because as I said earlier the human body emits scalar waves and they affect the longitudal lines of the earth and if everything is quantum entangled then that means the scalar waves emitting off of our body and affecting the longitudal lines of the earth also affect the longitudal lines of the universe itself and if you look into things like the doorway of the Gods in Peru and the way that shamans have been using that to literally Traverse the cosmos for Millennia and I actually know a story this I talked to this guy that knew the shaman in Peru that taught him basically the key to journeying through this Wormhole or the Stargate the the song or the the words that he had to say and his wife he got the guy walked up to the the doorway of the Gods he said the magic words and sang the magic song and lo and behold his wife saw him dematerialized in front of her eyes and then he said he was like going down this light tunnel and all around him were all these other light tunnels and then he wound up in this room this white room filled with light with these massive light beings that basically said what are you doing here why what are you doing how you're you're like a child wandering around you're really really lucky that we found you because you might not be able to get back so we're going to send you back we going to send your ass back to where you came from and don't do this again and so then his wife saw him within a minute or two rematerialized and for him it lasted way longer than a minute or two rematerialized in front of her and he was messed up just totally up for like three to six months because of this experience so understanding this notion of natural Stargates natural vortexes natural wormholes how it is that they intricately weave within SpaceTime understanding the human body and how it is a part of this interwoven pattern this tapestry of the cosmos and then fathoming the totality of that big picture and then taking that understanding and then creating a craft that's able to do it you have two ways then you can do it through technology or can do it through using the physical body as a technology and the electromagnetic field around it to gain access to future or past events and that comes into like Looking Glass Technology and stuff so you have the ability to do so with technology you can look in the future of the past or you can do so with your Consciousness and look into the future of the past um let's go over to Prometheus wow my brain is just expanded to light years across right now uh thanks so much Jake Ashton amazing conversation um Ashton I wanted to ask you about um Quantum Computing uh and I tagged you guys on a um uh post uh so I I work in the field of technology and um recently there are um there has been some breakthroughs in terms of creating uh warm holes supposedly uh using Quantum Computing um technology so um I wanted to know Ashton if if not something that you'd explored yourself and uh yeah like if um what do you see in terms of like uh Wormhole uh creation um and information exchange uh when it comes to uh Quantum Computing and Technology uh there we go um yeah so from the spe to the quantum the quantum Computing there's something where it always feels like there's something there where they're not really telling us I mean we've had these quantum computers for like 30 years in the late 90s and like conventional uh media would say well we don't really know what to do with it which is just really weird to me like well why do we develop it must have developed for some reason I would speculate that we have the military de developed it for some purpose that we don't uh really utilize it for the public perspective yet maybe something really powerful one of the things that it's been proposed to do is like uh develop new meta materials which I think is another way where we can increase our material our Material Science and thus technologically evolve significantly um the letter Dash and Forbes also mentioned this idea of that we've had this technology for a long time in terms of like you know teleporting an object warping an object but that quantum computers in the early 2000s were when it really started to take off we really started to be able to do magic with it because we were no longer limited by human limitations like reaction time and things like that and I think that's a really interesting concept because if you look at the papers we talked about they came out in 2010 if you imagine that that was people writing up science they already knew was real from the black projects in the black world then that could line up with the idea of us first having like really took had this technology become Star Trek level in like the early 2000s um so that's my thoughts on that just to let you know Prometheus I just did a live on Quantum Computing and how that works and how it is that the brain is a quantum computer I placed it up in the nest um so check that out if and when you uh have the time it's only like an hour and 13 minutes if you're so inclined would love to bro that's awesome alrighty let's go to I believe I said Soul s so Soul if that's how you pronounce it it's got the Emoji have the sun in there giving you an opportunity to speak here Amigo okay moving on 33 hello hello good Great Space tonight guys um 33 from the naughty conspiracy chat Ashton I believe the um question might have been proposed at the start is where did the microchips like come from and there's a little Theory um ahead and I'd like to back it off you um we we went back to the uh the Roswell engine in the technology way back then but um for the microchips um sorry sorry sorry um the ships do you think that a hydron collider could speed up a particle fast enough to to be able to shoot it down like the the the conspiracy is is that alien space crafts and Technology crashed in the Roswell desert and um that's where we gained the technology from my question proposes do you think the technology existed for us to shoot them down because as we know with rockets and technology that we currently use in the military we we would not be able to hit a anti-gravity machine that is moving at proportional speed so yeah what do you think about that do you think the US has a US yeah good question yes because the question is like really if you could create A Spacetime bubble you can create like a force field essentially I mean that's kind of what it is so what you know could anything even get through if you can create some type of gravitational manipul potion like a white hole the opposite of a black hole and I would agree Conventional Weapons would be of no effect against that type of Technology uh but actually I think it's a little bit simpler than that is that just because something seems very Advanced does not mean it's Invincible uh even Superman has a we a weakness which is Kryptonite so in this case what's the weakness to anti-gravity if anti-gravity is based on electromagnetism well how do we produce a scaler potential we use scaler beams and we interfere them so what if we shoot our radar at a UFO what is that going to do to it imagine like it's the equivalent of essentially taking a surfer and pushing them off balance or taking somebody who's riding a bike and hitting their handlebars now all of a sudden your craft is going to lose its uh stability that it had before I personally believe that we used radar to knock down UFOs that we've taken down they we're not using rockets and and missiles to knock them down uh that would generally be ineffective we might have accidentally caused craft to fall because we didn't even realize the capabilities of r at the time this is why I harp on radar so much uh radar is potentially directed energy weapon as well as capability to take down something that's using Electro gravitic effects so that becomes the next uh Battlefield in terms of uh the Cold War you know um the technological advancement happening behind the scenes good answer all right let's go over to Soul if you're this is your last chance before before I drop you Amigo alrighty um part of one uh try to make it fast okay uh what is your thoughts on brain heart coherence in the 40 specialized 40,000 specialized cells called sory neurites and within the brain what uh are the correlations with that and the electricom Magnetic um frequencies of the universe Jake I'll probably let you take that one I don't really have any uh I don't really know in general I mean when it comes to a lot of the esoteric stuff or like the uh neurological stuff like to me it's not really necessarily my wheelhouse I do think that uh there potentially is this idea of like using scaler weapons to damage people's brains I think Gary Nolan has looked into a lot of that people who are like too too close or too exposed to either some of these craft that use these effects all I know is that if there is some kind of hovering object I'm not standing underneath it staying away from because it could be giving off some kind of crazy radiation I'll just say that the heart brain coherence um is how it is that we create reality there the human body is a standing wave of energy the electromagnetic field around the body is a standing wave of energy and it is based on harmonics and therefore mathematics what you want to do is harmonize all of the chakras you want to harmonize the waveforms coming out of the brain and the heart and the heart is actually more powerful than the brain as far as electromagnetics is concerned and there are actually neurons inside the heart believe it or not that kind of tell the brain what to do for the longest time we thought it was the brain telling the heart but no actually it's the heart telling the brain so if you look into Greg Braden's the Lost mode of prayer he talks about how it is to create a coherent pattern that ends up affecting the quantum Realm by combining an emotion and a thought of the same frequency and then creating a feeling in the heart space that ends up informing the quantum realm as to the reality that you wish to Branch to in space and time that being said we are intimately connected to the universe and the universe is comprised of numerous different harmonic standing waves of energy part of the role of these directed uh energy weapons or things like psychotronic Weaponry or whatever is to and all as well as all the propaganda that's out there is to create decoherence within the human electromagnetic field field in the human brain in the body so that your heart and your mind are not creating a similar waveform so that you don't create the reality that you desire but instead instead You observe reality the way that you're told and if you are not buying the propaganda that is being shoved down your throat then that's where things like psychotronic Weaponry comes into play and how they can manipulate the neuroconnectivity in your brain and even do things like muscle twitches affect your dreams all sorts of stuff because the human electromagnetic field is intimately connected to the physical body um I I think that pretty much answers the question I'm I'm not trying to go too long here so um Holo Cipher uh if you can let's try to wrap it up make it fast we're gonna give Ashton the last word here yeah I think there's just a couple of things to tie in here uh including perhaps uh a note that we should probably make on incoming solar weather having to do with uh you know another driver towards uh our Quantum cortical uh coherent interface often what they call a cortical uh coherent interface um this has to do with the brain heart connection and how basically through modulating of the same we can alter not only a perception but our interaction with our local and surrounding SpaceTime but this also modulates not just local SpaceTime but the potential for these uh non-local uh entangled uh which I refer to as the entanglement coefficient is changing as the so activity changes so just like Hal POF was saying that we could potentially engineer the SpaceTime metric what's happening to give you a more down to earth kind of example of this is what's happening right now with the ionosphere otherwise called the Schuman resonant uh cavity this is changing with the solar plasma coming into the ionosphere it changes both uh the Q value which is essentially a fancy word for denoting the quality of the resonator this changes the conductivity and permitivity of uh essentially ionosphere which changes the way that the even if the frequencies didn't change it would change its intensity but the in actual fact the osphere shifts and because of that it shifts the base frequency and the and the way they calculate is pretty simple you just take the circumference uh at least in terms of the mathematical uh backbone of this it's just the circumference of Earth which I'm sorry we have to use metric uh yeah I'm gonna quiet that because I want to close up as fast as I can do it here which is I've got the Ian uh interview is live right now on X it's also live on Rumble for some reason it's not up on YouTube you can watch on Rumble uh please follow Ian uh Carol on rumble on YouTube and I just retweeted right now the link to the X version of it where I'm live in the chat with them on X um hopefully it's work correctly so watch that right now there's 177,000 people watch at the it's about 20 minutes in you start over watch you can watch live on yeah I am live right now with it's a prerecorded interview but I'm in chat and I'm G drop after this after this space and then I'm G jump into the chat there and I'm gonna watch I'll interact with people um so I posted link I'll post another link for you guys here's the link this guy long winded chat not working chat gets stuck sucks give me a sec I'm G basically there's one little interesting thing that ties this together with our DNA which is the work of Luke go to Luke moner he was a Nobel Prize winner for his work on one virology but more so having to do with AIDS but later on his work became very controversial because he started using Schuman frequencies to essentially teleport DNA expression to me diens essentially the internet using the seven Herz as the modulated or incubation about sort of frequency so we have the idea that DNA is integrated into human at a fundamental resonant level and if that's the case then any small changes as Dr Persinger has already pointed out and many others including Decades of Russian research uh have shown that small changes in the Schuman could create very small changes within genomic expression which then unfolds into a whole different type of expression it doesn't take aate a big that's where the analogy of the Butterflies Wings flapping over there creates a big tsunami effect over here it's just to give you the impression that small effects can have big changes in the world and it's a maybe a cascading effect but that's where I wanted to finish just tying up a few little things with how the Schuman resonant might be the key to all of this and it's something worth keeping our eye on because we are neurologically and hormonally connect get to the link go to my TT means our performance capabilities as a species is connected to it and of course there's a t towns and brown connection with all this which we need to start taking all these separate strings and start weaving together a pattern that's for the public because clearly as Ashton has pointed out there's very good indication that there's a pretty good picture of how this works through the billions of dollars that have been spent in private uh labs and it's time they they have no way okay I can't listen anymore um guys so check out my uh check out my Twitter profile guys you can do a little bit of work you can go to my Twitter profile you can find that stream right now Ian Carol's live with me right now I want to go listen to that um we've been in here for half an hour longer than I was going to be thank you guys for joining this stream I appreciate it again go over to Ian Carol go to the twt either his Twitter or my Twitter you can see the the stream it's live right now uh we're talking about the Kona Blue we're talking about uh some of these papers as well very much for the space and thank you for everybody for uh chipping in I really enjoy thanks holer appreciate you man and I don't know much about the Schuman residence but it does seem interesting Bazar talks about if it's a secret then that's great um I just want to thank everybody for being here thank Jake Chanley for uh you know putting this together for talking about this stuff thanks Hollow Cipher for bringing up your insights everybody else who answered questions as well uh I do have to drop but this has been an awesome conversation and I look forward to doing more uh make sure you're following all the speakers on here uh following Jake following Hollow Cipher uh the rest of us make sure you're sharing the information with as many people as possible and if you are interested after this come check out the live stream that's going on it's pre-recording with Ian Carol who I think is in my opinion probably the best investigative journalist on the planet uh we actually do talk about uh one of these papers in there as well so thank you guys very much have a good one thank you Ashton God bless okay we're dropping as um at some point in the future I have an orb story for you oops well oops too late dropped okay guys thank you very much today for this stream jump over to the Ian Carrol one listen to us there I'll be in the chat you can chat with me guys if you want have a great night m370x thank you Jake thank you everybody in the chat appreciate you guys peace