Nov 13th UFO Hearing Reactions - X Space w/ Jordan Sather

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# Nov 13th UFO Hearing Reactions - X Space w/ Jordan Sather Malayan 370 contact 120m 37 breaking news tonight A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board including four Americans has gone missing [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita Vishnu is trying to persuade the that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says now I am become deaf the destroyer of [Music] worlds chat thank you very much for being here on November 13th after the UFO hearings we have to jump right in and talk to Jordan sather we're going to do a debrief summary of what happened and it's happening right now chat corporate contractors really has information surrounding Zero Point Energy and our our theories I guess as to what's going on with this current mainstream Congressional UFO disclosure so there is Ashton let me bring him in make sure I hit the right buttons and I sent him the invite so he should be jumping on up every in just a minute here welcome oh now you have sound right unfortunately Ashton and I were a bit busy today so we couldn't watch the Congressional hearings live but I have been that looks like it was started in 2017 you guys can hear us both right and honest honestly guys I thought this whole hearing and even this Immaculate constellation secret UFO program that's getting disclosed now I thought it was kind of boring but that's just me I I've been researching this subject for probably 123 14 years and maybe some of the stuff I've researched was clickbait probably was but I'm confident that some of it was not and with this Immaculate constellation this this UFO hearing it was kind of boring number one trying to frame everything as a threat number two just dealing with like photos this Immaculate constellation project just dealt with images and radar images and things like that so uh anyway what's hey Jordan what's up man sorry took me a minute to get this thing all set up and good to go I'm also live on my YouTube channel but I'm excited to talk to you about this today I mean there's been crazy amount of attention on it lot of eyeballs on it in general and I want to Deep dive into it with you so looking forward to talking here let's go so what have you what have you seen I know you were uh working today so you couldn't watch it live and I was traveling today so I couldn't watch it live but what have you seen in terms of clips from the UFO hearing or things you've heard and what are your thoughts yeah I've seen pretty much the whole thing now uh I missed parts of it but uh I did go back that's part of the reason why I'm late is like I've been watching so many clips from it and this is my first impression is this is people that are on the outside that are really uh uh maybe not fully aware of exactly what's going on or in some cases people even who understand there's something going on here might not seem like that there was anything really special that was asked you know it was a lot of the same stuff that we've heard before aliens are real we we can't tell you where it's coming from you know like if if you ask anything about the government's interactions with it they say oh we we don't know what have you uh they fly underwater great uh but the thing is there's little little bits of like if you understand what's going on there's little bits of clues that being thrown around here and there a lot of it which can corroborate some stuff that's publicly available information um and so that's what I want to kind of dig in with you as well on in terms of like what do we what do we get when we read between the lines on some of these guys and I'm coming at it from my background if you're not familiar is like a completely neutral perspective I don't really care what non-human intelligence is all about um and you know I'm willing to believe there's Science and Technology that's hidden from us if if it's something that we can understand but I'm not one of those people that believes that like there's some Physics of the universe that humans can't possibly comprehend like I'm not really like I I believe in like empirical data basically yeah no and that's why I wanted to have chat with you is because you're you've been diving deep for a while now into the alternative sciences and all that and my background coming into this is one of skepticism but also somewhat open-mindedness open-mindedness but also having a tough time trusting the government you know rightfully so having a tough time trusting the intelligence community and wondering if if we're just being played by some sort of half-truth some sort of softballs bubble gum disclosure they throwing at us to try to cover up even more right and I I noticed a lot because I want to I want to ask of on that so it's like I would say yeah there is that going on and doesn't it kind of feel like there's a little bit of that going on like when they get asked questions there's a lot of National Security I can't answer that National can't talk about this let's talk about this in a Clos setting I can't the B tweeted about that she said like if anyone says this again I'm G to shoot them to the moon and the Spy balloon or whatever it was but that's uh that's a big thing so what is it they're holding back they admit they're holding something back right and so this is the thing too is that they're they're telling the truth that they're they're holding something back for National Security tells us two things the stuff they're telling us is not National Security so when Lando says there's aliens are real we're not we're not alone that's not really national security issue then right why would it be right why would it be and he he's he's open about you know what I wrote in my book and all the things I've said I've been cleared to say but the other hand I've noticed inconsistencies and contradictions a a year or two ago Lou alzando and many others in the media this is a big aspect of this sort of mainstream UFO narrative since 2017 is that none of this is ours none of this techn none of these craft none of this technology it's definitely not United States government it's nothing we have it could be aliens it could be Russia or China but it's not government and this Lou alzando was even on a podcast not too long ago saying that but then in his testimony today he suggested oh it could be corporate contractors when he was being asked by Nancy ma he he briefly said oh well it could be I I don't know so he's kind of contradicting himself you know and uh 100% And we caught him too in the Jesse Michaels interview he actually mentioned free energy as being the example of the technology that would be something that's so far beyond our current Paradigm that you can just see how disruptive it would be the idea that this free energy can be a thing breaks people's minds but the contrary view is well once you understand it once you actually go look at the physics go oh they're really talking about Zero Point Energy here and our current understanding is that it's there but we just can't really extract it you're going oh that's like it's a good candidate to explain a exotic fuel source that these craft might be using but even if they exist what do we what reason do we have to believe that it's aliens if we really just critical about that question for a second and have we seen any aliens have we seen any maned people coming out of these orbs and spheres that they keep referencing in the hearing today no has Lou alzando or Tim galade have either of them ever seen an alien no I don't think so they've been on a lot of interviews so why do we really think that it's aliens because the technology is beyond our public understanding so we just think that's that key word there public understanding you know when I was on the airplane today I was sitting there reading a book and it's called the secrets of Antigravity propulsion by Dr Paul Lavette it's probably the second or third time I've been through this book but Paul Lavette digs into how a man by the name of Thomas Townsen Brown back in the 1930s and 40s was figuring out how to make metallic discs levitate with high voltage electrostatic charge he called it electrogravitics and there's a lot of evidence to suggest that town of brown was working on projects for the military maybe even the Philadelphia Experiment and other uh other projects dealing with this kind of levitation technology so if the military or corporate contractors were doing this back in you know 50 60 70 years ago that that's what I'm wanting to get disclosed right I don't care about this a tip program that was in 2008 dealing with I don't know again photos or reports or this Immaculate constellation program dealing with images in 2017 like what what's been going on for 6070 years right yeah now if this whole disclosure of Immaculate constellation everything else we're seeing now if it's a part of some agenda to soft disclose these big ideas to the public so the rest can come out okay I can understand that I would be for that but I'm worried that this whole a tip Immaculate Concept stallation everything since 2017 I'm also worried that it's being used as a limited hangout disclosure to keep secret the [ __ ] that it's been going on for 60 70 80 years so yeah that's a good question and thing it's like yeah we've seen this document but it's probably not an official document it's probably a transcription from somebody who's a source quote unquote and even if that's the case though it still can be real you know it doesn't mean it's necessarily fake but yeah I think that to a certain degree for sure there's it's it's a s up in my opinion that they really aren't being asked a lot of questions about what the energy sources or you know the technology in general in terms of you know when are we getting that technology out in the public you know like kind of a big question sounds like you got some crazyy that could change our entire civilization you don't get that question because that kind of scop they throw out there at you that oh focus on this alien stuff might be real you know that then you're not thinking about oh how do I try to understand this technology because yeah if we find that that would change everything about our plant that's what um Luna asked uh gold and he said that the energy source or she asked him about the energy source and he said that's a national security issue he said if there's something out there and people are getting it then whichever country you know has it including our adversaries that's problem to me that's what this is all covering up that that that phrase there he says there is that's what we're covering up we're in a a war a covert War behind the scenes with China and Russia trying to figure out who's going to get the best technology here and uh you're right with TT Brown you're 100% right electr gravitics this was actually figured out by Kusa Klein in 1926 they had a unification theory of of electromagnetism and gravity using an extra Dimension and now we understand that ether is like Maxwell would call it is really just the Zero Point Energy that's all around us but these are old ideas that have come new again and the question there is like where can you take this how far can you go with this to me the thing that was important about the immaculate constellation you're right like it's what why is this really important well if you have two videos that are in sync from two different perspectives filmed by the military and you can see in there literal giant airplane getting disappeared now you say oh well this understanding of physics that was withheld from us explains that weird video that we're seeing in infrared and thermal and those Immaculate constellation documents basically say those are two of the primary sources of collection mechanisms that we were getting that they were using to track quote unquote UFOs so they can still have that program that program can exist and The Narrative of them using aliens can still be a cover up especially because how can other countries not have this technology right now in fact how do you even differentiate between who's weird orbs or whatever people can make you know flying saucers whatever you want to believe how would you even differentiate those things you know you'd have to have an a really good collection mechanism and it last thing I'll say I know been ranting is that it brings up the Public's perception of where we think our surveillance apparatus is right now if you ask people comment person that's not really in the know right now that on this you know um xace what kind what do you think our our satellites are capable of doing they'll be like I don't know taking taking pictures or something it's like they don't even understand we've got constellations of satellites beaming data and infrared and radar uh synthetic aperture radar that we can like map the whole planet and why if that's the case why I can't you just have like video playback well you can and we do have that and if we have that kind of system if there's UFOs we're seeing them everywhere and that's what that Immaculate constellation program is basically saying we've got this program and nothing on this planet is hidden and we're tracking it all yeah something's still sketchy to me with with all this we got a couple of requests for speakers which we'll get to if yall have questions um I got one rant to go on real quick and then we'll get to the questions uh we're seeing a lot about the uh crash ret retrieval teams and reverse you know crash retrieval teams going out and finding some down craft or whatever there's a lot of theory or suggestion of that Within These mainstream or these government disclosures but you and I Ashton have been talking about human inventors hundred years ago who were working on their own personally unified field theories largely ignored by science and the establishment but people like T Thon Brown Tesla had his Dynamic theory of gravity John Hutchin was working with electromagnetic fields magnetic charges and making things levitate so there's a lot of human inventors that that can do this and have done this they've just been either ignored or suppressed I I wonder I theorize if this whole crash retrieval aspect of this mainstream narrative now is a way to cover up the fact that humans can and have done this and so they can kind of sanitize that out of history and not have to admit fault over that again kind of like the in the name of limited hangout disclosure and then they'll start disclosing some of this exotic propulsion or this Z Point Energy technology but say they got it from a crash they retrieved like three years ago that's a that's a good point there's a person you need to add to your list like I can give you more physicists that you need to look into right off the top of my head Ken shoulders should be on your list he was actually in interview video a video interview with with John Hutchinson actually and Ken shoulders got an apology letter from Richard feeman Richard feeman and Julian schwinger won the Nobel Prize in 1965 for Quantum electrodynamics which was pretty much some of the early found earliest foundations of really modern quantum mechanics and the idea of Zero Point Energy and um the other people you need to know in addition to Ken shoulders oh sorry Ken understood this idea of plasma having this self-organizing property which if you go look at videos of plasma in outer space you can see it self-organizing um but it would have this kind of Perpetual uh pulling of extra energy that he couldn't account for without it coming from energy all around is zero point uh K uh Hal Poff is another person you need to add to your list because he's in my yeah he's yeah um I've heard of how PUD off familiar with that name a lot he's quite connected to Stanford Research Institute in the CIA though so I got questions on that one I'm but I'm bringing it up because he might be like the final boss he he might be like the ultimate go like the Godfather of the technology like I have tremendous respect for his work but he also might be like a primary gatekeeper you know I'm just saying I'm just throwing it out there I told you I'm an unbiased person um yeah no that that makes that would make sense to me salvator pasas yep somebody had it in my as well Salvador Pas has to be talked about on these lists like this guy has five patents man five patents that are all US Navy patents and we just kind of fact his Pat get classified weird 5D disinformation campaign like no dude those are just real patents like what we should be asking is when were those tested who tested them what were the results like you know why did we why did we patent this right now like are we afraid and I'm also with salvator Pas I'm also asking how the hell were his patents approved and publicized and not not stricken Secret Under National Security under under the invention secrecy act in 1952 so that also makes me theorize and wonder if there's some sort of like battle for full disclosure where you have some groups in the military industrial complex pushing for half-truth limited hangout and other groups in the military pushing for more of like a full disclosure let's get more stuff out there more sence because here's the thing right if establishment what if before you go to next what if it's go for it one group's pushing the limited hangout half disclosure half not and the other one wants no disclosure at all what if there could be yeah there could be multiple groups one wants full disclosure one wants half one wants none this is why I want to talk to you though keep going I want to hear more of what you had to say there uh where was I gonna go with that oh I was just gonna kind of finish that thought of um you know the whole crash retrieval thing maybe that's their way of not having to admit what they've actually been doing for 80 years because the thing is if they ad if they admitted that humans have meddled and figure out some things Within These alternative science domains exotic propulsion 0 energy if they admitted that that has been going on for 60 70 80 years then that would destroy the Paradigm of Science and physics they would have to admit so much wrong sorry we got so many things wrong we P we pushed these you know incomplete laws of thermodynamics incomplete relativity Theory promoted them as fact we we lied or we messed we [ __ ] up for this long we're sorry they don't want to have to admit that plus they would have to admit that oh we've been raping you guys with oil gas and coal or this green New Deal [ __ ] for all these years and siphoning your tax money blah blah blah like you could have had age climate change carbon taxes you could have had you know you could have been going into the Jetson's age decades ago so they don't want to admit that so it that that's why I postulate that idea of them pushing this limited hangout disclosure in ways to keep a lot more covered up that they wouldn't have to admit so yeah that's where like those Engineers a lot of them have stuff where and and when they talk generally like you know you talk about it and you're like oh okay we could have figured this out because yes in these hearings a lot of it's like I mean two of them even got asked directly uh whether or not it was aliens by I'm looking at my list here to see I can't find it but either way it's not that relevant oh I think I heard get asked that by yeah Garcia he asked both of and and alzando and galade both say it's definitely aliens like 100% and the other two say they don't know shellenberger and gold they're saying like I really have no idea and I think the the last two I think are telling the truth the first two I think they're telling the truth is they know but it's just because they don't they just really probably don't think they're not exposed to technology like if this technology is in defense contractor hands then it's completely outside the realm of the government means that like right there's no oversight can't fo you a private company yeah and so and you're right and then when you think about the consequences of okay defense contract cont contractors have had this they share it with their buddies and they basically also use this NeverEnding money that's coming from the government in terms of Defense contract spending they've become literally a breakaway civilization there that there's no negative consequences you're getting this free money from the government every year in defense contract you're inventing magic world has no idea in fact the world's understanding of physics says it's not possible and you know now it turns out oh that's we're just shining a light on that that's been going on these civil liabilities for the cover up are huge like we've been playing favorites with certain defense contractors it's not it's not a free economy so now companies can sue they can sue company a like locked Martin uh or any of these other companies that are doing this like we have like basically a cartel going on in our own government right now with these defense contractors so how can they even let this come out all the psychological operations turns out climate change was a big scam the whole time we've been hiding technology that is infinitely better than solar and wind just iding that we know that there's energy all around us we can just extract it directly through several different mechanisms okay so that's a whole scam and that's just one example there's many many more so I'm also with you on the kind of the idea that it does seem like they're using this alien stuff and they oh we have to talk about in a skiff whenever you talk about anything like does the defense contractors have this do we have this because of course of course like at some point how would we not have figured it out you know like it's been 80 years or so like you said this can go back to the Philadelphia Experiment 1943 by the way guys Philadelphia Experiment Thomas town of brown was connected to it Einstein was connected to it Tesla was connected to it some of the biggest mines ever so of course at some point we figured it out and I think now we're at the point where it's so obvious that we can't you know we can't hide it very much longer but we have to blame it on something we need a scapegoat blame it on the aliens yeah it's the aliens we found the technology from the aliens but you know again I'm open-minded to it and the funny part is even if we do blame it on the aliens it doesn't mean aliens aren't real like aliens can still exist out there somewhere just the real Hurdle from the scientific perspective is like how would how would they get in here so go yeah no I I definitely believe that that there's life out there in the cosmos but I think most of these UFOs or uaps or you know what we have to focus on is what's going on right here on the planet and figure that out and then we can start dealing with with Cosmic Galactic things all right we got a few requests for questions so let's kind of rapify through these questions I think uh I don't know who was first I'm just going to touch on the first person that comes up in my app here so Zero Point Energy disclosure all you bud go ahead might be muted what a crazy day in uh this Twitter space just stopping in saying what up what up Zer energy disclosure this is like he's like the earliest person to get involved in the Zero Point Energy influencer uh Community that's being developed here right like we're we're kind of moving away from the question of aliens in fact that was kind of brought up today too which is like look enough talking about aliens like what's going on with the technology are we hiding it why are we hideing in it is it going to be doomsday are we afraid our adversaries have it why aren't we giving the you know free energy technology to our own citizens who are suffering and you know homeless and have nothing can't pay for food you know like this is where we want to move the conversation and this is a great time to do it we got a new Administration coming in right we got you know Screw the old Administration we just got all these appointments that just came out today as well I mean I'm excited guys zpe disclosure what I mean [ __ ] if if the Chinese have this technology then the way they got it is by stealing it from us yeah that got brought up too um was that brought up today I didn't hear that part um I'm getting some of my stuff mixed up because there was another great podcast I was listening to yesterday uh but the Chinese have been stealing technology from us too and it gets and it's important that if they're stealing technology from us trying to steal this technology from us what level and by this I mean gravity manipulation free energy technology weaponization of anything you're IM your imagination can come up with what limit Would we not go to to prevent China from getting this even just to delay what lengths Would we not go to you know what would we do did did China steal it or were they sold some of that technology by Hillary Clinton and cabal Folk um maybe somebody was saying um Trump trump said that Obama sold out our Hypersonic missiles to Russia that was a bold claim for him to just throw out there out of nowhere um it does make me wonder how much backdoor dealing goes on and I'm done with Obama Biden Kamala and I think you could argue you know they they were even connected to the clintons too I mean there's a group of them that have been like controlling power and it kind of goes beyond either party I guess that's why they call it the uni party but I mean you know we gotta get well that's what that's what makes I was gonna say that's what makes me wonder about all this being a big old limited hangout half troop scop is because you look at the Wikileaks emails from John podesta that in 2016 Not only was all there all the questionable food code words and ped stuff and that but there was the uh they were talking about Zero Point Energy and Tom along Edgar Mitchell others emailing with John podesta I mean it's like if the The Establishment was planning on Hillary winning and they were prepping this whole UFO disclosure to come out if Hillary won in 2016 you could see the pre-planning for that and uh yeah why was that didn't win that email real quick with John podesta and Edgar Mitchell there there's SE two of them where he's like I straight up say Zero Point Energy yeah he's straight up says it he says we straight up need to get zero point for exactly the reasons I just brought up he's like climate change you know we can end climate change immediately like this will change everything about our civilization and I think the world just kind of like oh he's an old kooky astronaut just saying Kookie things but it's like what if you just legitimately knew I agree with you like I actually thought they even before that election that they had planned on Hillary Clinton being like the disclosure person I'm going to tell everybody alien are real and it's funny because back then I would have thought y aliens are real I've been one of those people that's mystified by the puppet yeah then you look at the puppet strings you're going wait what's powering that UFO how did how did those aliens get here exactly like what on physics wise there right it's like they were planning this disclosure in 2017 to probably be way bigger and more drastic than it was but then since Hillary didn't win they had to slap some together real quick and then Lou Alando and Chris melon had to like take these black and white videos that were never classified they were Rush him over to the New York Times and say ah [ __ ] we gotta slap this [ __ ] together and get it disclosed I don't know but just weird me point out a few other things quick summary for please do and then we'll get to some more questions yeah and then we can uh so Tim galade and Michael shellenberger both brought up points about our surveillance that we have satellite video I don't think this has actually been mentioned in the public before today uh by people at least not a congressional I've been saying it for a year um and that we film in infrared and thermal and that we also have low earth orbit surveillance which I have a feeling we have more low earth orbit surveillance out there than what the public really knows which would mean that you have extremely high quality imagery uh um elzando uh was specifically asked like you said do we know if the contractors have the technology very good question right Dodges it have have to ask that answer that in a private setting very telling answer you know because that means that basically he knows they do have it but can't talk about it because the person pulling the strings is the private contractors um Masha witz asked you can't talk about Fight Club if there's no fight club and I thought this was a great point because there has to be a energy source like that's kind of the whole point I'm trying to bring up when I say like if anything is getting to us if if even we see an object that's floating in the sky defying what we think our laws of gravity for a prolonged period of time you ask where that energy is coming from that allows it to do that it's nothing that we can possibly understand because of E equals mc2 whatever fuel source would be getting used is going to weigh the craft down and that causes it to take more and more energy to do what it's doing so our conventional view of fill the tank up and burn the fuel that must just be we've come up with that way of doing things but that's not the most efficient way and looking at the world from that perspective is going to that's the secret that's what's going to change everything um last couple comments gold says this is this NASA witness guy the vast majority of what they're seeing are drones I have this feeling they're using this as a code word now where they're saying drones and what they really mean is like we're not showing you what our drone quote unquote technology is same with like maybe China's drones quote unquote you know if what what what stops a ball of energy from being a a drone just whether or not it can be sustained if it can then now that's a drone so I have a feeling a lot of that's being used because we just for us drone is this mechanical flying thing with propeller on top of it very vague word that brings in this uh baggage of thought with it but it could really mean anything when people using it so yeah it could be code word that's a good point couple last a few they actually were all asked about hybrids by uh uh I saw that yeah she had actually really funny uh thing that she brought up about Jo's 80 million votes in the Earth being flat um things she's just trying to go viral but yes so they none of them know anything about hybrids which I think goes it really separates they really want to be seen as not conspiracy theorists like they don't want to be Alex Jones I think in their minds that's what they're afraid of even though some would argue Alex Jones has been right about quite a few things that are out there not everything but some stuff um he they get asked about why over classifying it why why is this being over classified I think this is the thing that people really have to go back to is why are they allowed to talk about aliens well they're allowed to talk about aliens because that's not the national security issue the thing that you're over classifying if we go back and look at history the stuff that's been the most classified ever is surveillance capabilities that's what was brought up related to this constellation thing and then the other one is our weapons nuclear Atomic the atomic energy energy that's been the most secret thing in fact the doe has been in charge of the UFO phenomenon people should be asking why is it the do is in charge that's kind of weird I would expect it to be space Force Air Force really anybody before the doe but then once you ask the question hey what's the energy source of this floating object I'm seeing perpetually in the sky you go ah so there must be an energy source that the doe is aware of that the Public's not aware of right now or maybe we're aware of it but they're doing it better than what the public is aware of like in the case of Fusion for example um and that this energy source is something where it's so secret we're not going to tell the public and we in fact have to Gaslight the public with scops to make them think it's some other reason because there has to be this reason for these these things that people are seeing um and we're going to do that to protect our ass to protect all the horrible [ __ ] that we've done all the people we've discredited the fact that we've literally hidden a branch of science from people you know that's that's what I just trust the science Ashton just trust the we got science like actually have meaning again the two things that allows the most credibility are government and Academia you know especially in the last four years I'm not even going to say why you guys know why but they were always corrupted for a while back true story uh Julian schwinger am I hopefully I'm saying this right uh no so um I think it was schwinger hope I hope I'm right on this near the end of his life he was looking into Plasma's cold fusion he believed that cold fusion 1989 actually was legit and it was being suppressed and he resigned his post in the uh American physical society which is like the number one physics academic institution that's out there because that was right after that was right after those two Utah scientists figured out cold fusion their laboratory right temperature yeah and it's funny because well actually not funny but you get my point is that when you look into this guys and all you guys can look into this yourself you'll realize all the history of this suppression of the actual the real questions of the science of the the history of the science of what is the history of this science that's been hidden from us there are signs of it being suppressed all out there ponds and flashman's results were very were recreated 61 times across the world 61 times the biggest claim was there's more energy in terms of heat coming out the energy that was going into it that's a huge revelation where's the energy coming from I was taught that space is empty so that must be impossible right and this and all it took was the department of energy an MIT to come out and say we tried to recreate it and doesn't work it's fake everybody just said it was fake and now you look back at through this new lens and we go [ __ ] okay there really can be this suppressed energy and Source that's out there this science that's out there and we can see the history history of it but guys when you start to look into this especially when you look into people that have been like quote unquote free energy developers or the people that have been doing cold fusion Stanley Meyer with his waterp powerered car was actually like a cold fusion device and you see what happened to them all doesn't end well so then you go oh okay [ __ ] it's not just civil liability that's at stake here like there's we potentially killed people over this like murdered them straight up so it wouldn't come out you know and some of it yeah greed right like yeah there's greed but some of it too is a matter of uh the danger just to hop in here jump in did he just say just to HPP in here and disappeared for years yeah Eugene moff going back to the fleshman in pond when he was claimed to be beat up by a bunch of thugs yeah and Eugene Malo worked at MIT right and he also resigned MIT because he believed they were basically cooking the books against cold fusion and and then he started new energy magazine I think it was and then I think Eugene malow mysteriously died in early 2000s like Beat to Death In His home if I'm getting that correct yeah it's crazy that there is just a huge branch of physics that's been suppressed and all it really took to mess us up to really make us forget that we can manipulate gravity was changing one set of equations Maxwell's equations James Clerk Maxwell father electrical engineering he had like what 19 equations something like that that included a scaler potential and we just decided Well scaler potential can't really measure it so it must be zero really this is what we did and so Oliver Havey I really reduced it down to four equations but we have experiments that prove that we we can't just get rid of that scal potential there's effects that we're seeing that require there to be a medium going on and the best one is the Aon Hof foam effect this is one that triggers physicist the most if you want a real experiment that triggers people you say what about the a inhoff bone effect you take a solenoid which traps all the electromagnetic fields within it just a cylinder and you shoot uh beams of electrons or phons past it and you will see a phase shift versus having there be nothing there and you go well wait there's no electromagnetic fields there so how can that on the outside of this solenoid so how can this be causing there to be a reaction and is oh there must be potentials on the outside of this solenoid that we are not accounting for and once you take into that concept you realize oh ultimately you get to this idea that space isn't really empty like we are actually fish in a fish tank that don't realize that we're sitting in water it's not just air that we've got all around us but at the smallest scales we've got like energy all around us and that's what's really G to you know blow people's minds from the mainstream Comm uh perspective and then how do you know how do we even deal with that how do we deal with that all right man let's get to a few more of these requests here going [Music] to UFO timeline how's it going man oh good oh it's tuba what up man how good to see you guys wow uh dude yeah so I were you on the stream earlier today I wish I could have joined but I had work going on I was over in Red's stream today uh it's his birthday today we were celebrating Happy Birthday to Red if you're out there brother um yeah that was so what did you think of the what was your view or what's the common person's perspective of how the hearing went today what do you think oh I think it was terrible uh it was it was a lot of hype build up which seems to be um evidence of like a marketing scheme like that's you know as a videographer media person that's how I'm looking at this is it feels like this alien disclos closure effort is all a marketing ploy to push certain agendas those agendas are laid out with you know just directly in these hearings uh big promises built up beforehand by Associates or mouthpieces of the people who are about to testify and then not no real follow through followup with it it's to maximize kind of attention and I agree with you that we should stop focusing on the alien aspect of this and start really looking and diving into what the tech is I think you're 100% right that there has literally been fields of physics and and Mathematics that have been completely kept from society in order to you know pursue these agendas which seem anti-American to be honest uh we shouldn't be over here learning about the string theory and all these weird theories if the reality of it is much more simple much more fluid and much more accessible which is what it seems like especially when we talk about Zero Point Energy and stuff um a lot of the stuff has just been kept from us due to due to keeping us in the dark like about big big Ideas not so that we don't get the answers but so that we don't even know what questions to ask and the hearing today from shellenberger gadet alzando and um gold like they were all offering like nothing it almost seemed like some of them were giving 10% not even like 50% um as soon as they were pressed it was I can tell you in a skiff or secured thing I'm here to drop very specific pieces of information about very specific things that are going to be built up later on or in the next Netflix show or the next whatever when I sell the next book and and all this stuff uh the time to to I mean they should be proof this this hearing today should be the last straw for people who are thinking that they're going to get answers from these people and uh instead of going out and looking for themselves I think it's time to start looking it's time to start forming real groups real committees uh that are homegrown and Grassroots uh to find locate identify and explore these ideas these topics these discoveries ashon your your MH370 Community along with your efforts as well like it's completely Chang the idea of what UFO research can be at an independent level right I mean you're you're the way you're tackling it the thing you're looking for is truth you're looking for truth you're looking for Hidden Truths you don't seem to have an agenda to press some some idea that like you know a lot of people who press the alien agenda they're always judging human but saying that the aliens are judging Humanity they're always they're always criticizing everything and then coming to the conclusion that the that they they actually are in line with the aliens opinions of us that's so weird it's so much projection it's so yeah it's just D it's a dangerous thing to do as well is to assume these aliens share your feelings your criticisms your judgments about Mankind like who are you you know what I mean So to avoid all of that and focus strictly on the science on like the the paper work on the foundational science on these moments you know like you mentioned Thomas towns and brown earlier we're talking a guy who was working with anti- gravitics in the late 20s early 30s you know this is kind of it's bananas but through your community through your research I've actually been able to I don't know validate a lot of stuff when it comes down to this hidden physics idea because there's a lot to it I honestly think if I'm critical of UFO commun I think there's a lot of people out there that have they're looking for meaning we all are we all we're all looking for meaning in this world and I think that there's a lot of people that think that oh well if aliens end up being real then everybody's going to accept that and we're going to enter this Utopia where everyone's going to change their perspective and you know and some people's like we're not going to have Republicans anymore they're all going to realize that Democrats were the right the whole time blah blah blah and in other people's cases it's like oh well this religion is going to be right or this it's not really what's goingon to happen like at all like the alien thing is not going to change what's going on uh around our world at all right now um and it it is a big profound thing but I'd argue like we we've kind of moved past that like like 10 years ago or more like after we started like looking at just like moons and planets and our own solar system and seeing that we're seeing stuff that is like powerful indicators of life like we're looking at Enceladus and we're seeing like I think it's Enceladus don't don't add me guys we see there like Rifts and we know there's an ocean and some cases we can see this like uh coloration that might be indication of like some type of organic uh process happening we look at Mars and we see seasonal methane which is like a powerful indicator of biological process happening somewhere that's not geologic and to me it's just like okay life has got to be out there somewhere like if we're just seeing like even bacterial life just in our own backyard universe is a huge Place probably out there somewhere great you know for me though it's like what are you doing for me lately and then the last thing too is that how are you how are you even getting here or even if you're on our planet and you're more advanced than we are like what is it that you understand about physics Universe reality that we currently don't understand you know and and there's big questions that we are trying to answer in physics turns out there's a direct overlap here yeah UFO timeline you bring up a great point about these mouthpieces or influencers or whatever you're going to call them just wanting to sell more books or more TV shows or just get play for their own you know maybe their own selfish means um I know some some of these UFO influencers that have been doing these you know writing these books doing these conferences for years and years and years years decades even I know some of them have made millions of dollars with their super expensive Skywatch weekends and their books and their TV show appear appearances and the History Channels some of them have made millions of dollars so one of my questions for them is well why don't you put that money to use trying to like crowdsource some kind of lab or getting some disruptive technology out there do something really meaningful instead of just uploading another YouTube video or writing a new book that you're going to sell for 30 bucks or whatever the case right it's like I just wonder I just wonder like you know I think for some people it's a matter of you know they think you have to be like a PhD to do that you know or it's like if disclosure happens what's their job GNA be now right maybe they just want to perpetuate the machine why do you think that a lot of those people have never like broughten my research up related to this airplane like I'm staring at and these are not my videos I don't have a copyright over these videos I didn't make these videos nobody's ever copyright strike them they've been getting hundreds of millions of views they've these other UFO influencers have never brought these videos up ever and when they're ever asked about it they get super sketched out about it early on for me I thought one of the only reactions that makes sense here is that like if the gig is up on the UFO thing and it turns out a lot of the stuff they were selling was like a narrative that they were pushing like there's your your money's drying up right there pretty quickly right like it's kind of a threat from that perspective of like this little career has been there really is a niche it's been there really is a threat there is a threat it's it's just you Ashton but the best part is like I haven't ruled out aliens at all my own conclusion is similar to what you said which I think that whether or not aliens are real the the alien thing being used as a narrative tool to avoid tougher questions that they will then say I've got to go to a skiff to tell you that I can't can't can't talk to you about that in public setting oh yeah I'm I'm confident intelligent life exists out there and I'm fairly certain that it's already been here at least on this planet in the past watching us and meddling in our Affairs but I do also think most of the UFOs we see in our skies over the last 80 years have been man-made craft yeah and that's a big shift man that is honestly that's what uh Dr Steph Greer's been saying and I only call him a doctor because he was actually an emergency room physician so he was actually a guy that was helping people um but yeah he's been he's been one of the only people out there and why has he been so on point and again this means like no matter who he's also never gotten censored though which I wonder I got some questions he did get censored his Joe Rogan interview is pulled you can't actually find it right now yeah but he's got Netflix shows and documentaries and all kinds of stuff I wonder about GRE one of Greer's angles is that all life in the cosmos is positive except for on planet Earth which I also highly so this was my point is that just because he might be right about some of that doesn't mean that he's right about and nobody he puts a lot of great information be right about some stuff and wrong too you can be as well right like we should try not to be tribal about it you know because that but there's also a difference in being wrong on purpose or being wrong unintentionally and I wonder if sometimes Greer is wrong on purpose it could be and he could be corrupted well right like this is the thing when I brought P off you're like yeah well like you know have you looked in like who he's connected to yeah he how Poff was connected to Ken shoulders as well and not just like uh hey I kind of was an acquaintance like they were like business partners and like people don't even realize that or know about that but just because somebody might have been gatekeeper also doesn't mean they're still a gatekeeper and even if they were the situation is so much more complex right than what the public really wants to it down to a lot of people wanted to boil it down to the aliens are going to save us this is the thing I disagree with Greer on is they're like we know the Aliens Must Be benevolent I I don't like that view as much as I don't like the idea that like Lou alzando and some of these guys are poting out that it must be benevolent must be evil it's like I dude I don't know my personal view would be like they probably don't give a [ __ ] about us and treat us like ants if they've got why not both yeah right like both know [ __ ] they can be some good ones they can be some bad ones this is where I was joking the other day I'm like yeah you know what we're going to just have the best aliens whatever aliens you want we're going to have them universe is huge bro we got everything happy aliens sad aliens angry aliens we got blue aliens purple aliens maned aliens white aliens for some reason everyone loves the white aliens mandatory Dei training we're shifting all Dei resources space racism that like the nordics the most yes there's so much space racism pling the topic hey Ashton I just want to say real quick man I uh have I've gone ahead um and put the MH370 case in the timeline you can find it in 2014 uh your research your interviews a lot of the better ones are in there please let me know if there's anything else I should add in there as far as in the video or image category um and yeah I'm I'm also going to go through and add in all the supporting paperwork and uh patents and amendments I have the Mansfield amendment in there already um anything like that I'm that's huge dude I heard that your resource Tupa has like the best UFO resource out there if you're like a UFO nerd or if you're just curious about like the history of some of these cases some of these ones that have like a lot of documentation to them check out the UFO timeline like literally that's what the name of it is that's his website it's awesome and interactive followed sweet it's pretty interesting so you can check that stuff out and he put the MH370 but he's putting dope stuff in there like the Mansfield Amendment which was the amendment in you probably have to refresh my 1969 1971 somewhere right around there basically moved all research from anti-gravity from the military to private contractors military was no longer allowed to research it because it didn't have direct Comet implications because it's gravity based it's not weapons but it turns out it kind of really is weapons in the end so this stuff is important to understand because you need to understand the context of the suppression and how things have gotten to the point they're at today that's right that was 1973 by the way you could find it couple years okay just a couple but I mean there's so many more um little pieces of supporting science and advancements and discoveries that lead up to the MH370 videos right there's so much there because you look at them you're like okay well there's no way I've never seen anything fly like that so that's that's not real your mind almost can't comprehend it and then there's this ontological shock when it starts to process it you're like well what the wait a second and then you go through and what you've done is expert level research going through and finding the foundations that that make the videos real that make them realistic that make at least what you're seeing in there a a viable option for what we know about physics now it's it's incredible so yeah I'm going to keep building that out thanks brother yeah no I appreciate it man and yeah for me I mean it's just a matter of getting the truth for this missing airliner that's still missing today 10 years later but then also just for our civilization to because there is something being hidden here like there's something being hidden here I think even if you're a hardcore skeptic and you're like okay aliens are fake I can't believe that all the media would lie to me that's that's not possible experts are the real experts and they would never lie to me science science can't be bought out even if you're one of those people uh you've got to admit there is something going on here this UFO thing and we're yes we're calling it UFOs we're not calling it uaps I I'll always call it UFOs I I and I'll always call it Twitter I refuse the rebrands it's just and the UFO thing it's just it's stupid because it's like you can tell that people in a boardroom were like the focus groups are not they're not doing UFO there's too much stigma no connected to it it's like this is the same [ __ ] they did with cold fusion where then they just start calling it low energy nuclear re actions and now they're calling it catalyzed fusion and there's other names the two that Niche people use because they're just so afraid they're like literally terrified of just calling it for what it is and I'm like I not you know what if we're doing anything here we're breaking through all these barriers we're breaking through this [ __ ] barrier we're bringing back free energy we're bringing back cold fusion we're bringing back UFOs you know just cut the crap let's just make it simple and obvious for people I want to get to uh couple more of these requests so sorry I've got a good rant per hour going right now it's all good the first Speaker I see with a thumbs up I will tap on uh but I got a quick rant and that uh speaking of the Rebrand I've noticed the past five years or so from the mainstream science media they've been calling a lot of this sort of alternative science they're trying to form it into the mainstream mold so they're calling it quantum quantum's the new buzzword so they're talking about Quant Quantum communication systems and Quantum energy and Quantum this Quantum that it's like they don't want to use the term Zero Point Energy or free energy or what have you so they're just using that vague sort of meaningless Quantum word to quantum gravity quantum foam Quantum exactly like it's all Quantum and it's like they well what does that mean they're just avoiding ether like all the people that invented all this stuff all believe there must be a medium like electromagnetic waves all waves need a medium so they're like space can't be empty there's got to be something there we even say like we think the space between atoms is like the distance between planets scaled down you're like well what's in the middle then nothing there's nothing there more particles let's just build a bigger CERN with a 100 billion more dollars to you know pocket books and like what I've realized too about a lot of that it's like I a lot of that's just kind of nonsense like okay we need to be able to name all these subatomic particles that are out there it feels like what we're trying to do is we're trying to explain the stuff that's in The Ether we're trying to understand it but at the end of the day it's like I don't give a [ __ ] like there's energy also trying to launder money energy we can't see right like yeah there's this energy all around me and mass around me then stuff that's just at the quantum level right there's there's stuff happening there but you know why is there stuff that why is that stuff happening there and yes I think they're just trying to Rebrand the stuff and when they don't have an explanation they just literally make up imaginary terms like dark matter and dark energy like we literally just can't explain why the universe or How the Universe could expand faster than the speed of light which is funny because when you're talking about warp drives teleportation wormholes this is and and when you talk about the UFO phenomen you're like oh that's exactly what a civilization would need to figure out as well if you want to travel to any anywhere honestly even if you want to go to Mars like I'm not going on a a Boeing rocket I'm not going on any Rockets I'm not going to waste nine months of my life yeah it's like the six months at best to go to Mars [ __ ] that to a dead Planet you guys are crazy you guys want to go there go nuts like there has to be a faster way just has to be a faster way so that's your answers there uh and and how it connects to this topic you know like Sabrine hossenfelder right she's a physicist is out there uh very very popular I think probably one of the most prominent ones and a lot of these people they're popular because they're skeptic they just poo poo on everything else that's out there and she's kind of that way and she did a thing about The Ether the new ether that's consistent with Einstein's relativity which is what I've basically been yelling here for the last year or so but then the end she says well we use dark matter Dark Energy because it's simple it's not this idea like a God damn it it's like okay well you know you were right over the target you you almost had it you just had to reach out and grab it but just admit some of these foundational principles are wrong is it that tough it is it people won Nobel prizes yeah so much ego yeah won Nobel prizes for stuff that's going to be considered fraudulent now in the future so it's like oh boy okay how do we how do we get through these bru used Egos and uh all these Personalities in Academia to admit that like wait hey we didn't get it like a great quote there's several great quotes one from Max plank the guy that is UN first understood quantum mechanics Max plank said that science advances one funeral at a time that is so true we just need all the people and this isn't just true of science but it's true of like conspiracies too the only way we can can everever let the conspiracy come out is when everybody who perpetuated it is dead now and look at JFK we knowk happened right and it's like why are they waiting to hold it back well there's people that are going to be like legally liable still you know like they're like waiting out the statute of limitations basically and I think that's the same with this UFO stuff like I think it goes way further back than what people think and even when Lando's like hey no we have to look at this temporally like people have been reporting UFOs since like the 20s and sometimes you know way even further back than that so therefore like humans can have figured this out but you're like well that doesn't mean that like what we've been doing nothing for 80 years trying to reverse Engineers making no progress or like is this um Independence Day and we're waiting for the mother ship to come back before all of a sudden the power comes on like no man like we clearly made progress on this if that's the case if we did reverse engineer it or whatever so um sorry you don't think you brought up Independence Day and one of my favorite quotes from that movie which which I think is truth and plain sight yeah you don't think they spent $10,000 on a hammer did you exactly where'd all that money go exactly and that's ex that's literally what's happening in the real world and the problem with chasing the money in this case is it's impossible the defense contractors are too good it's way too easy to launder government money um than what people probably really imagine and they do exactly what you says like we just upcharge you for some random thing now there's no paper trail and they literally use umbrella corporations as well exactly like they would do in the movies or whatever where like you just make this Umbrella Corporation now the defense contractor sells out through that that's like a middleman for your contract and your agreement for this black project with the government and government agrees too because they also don't want to get ever caught with it and now anything that happens with that it's there's no way to ever find it ever again yeah the re the real companies that are dealing with these black projects we probably don't even know the name of you know we we focus on lock heat and Boeing and Ron the big names but they've created umbrella corporations and shell companies for their shell companies so we probably don't even know all right we're gonna get though uh there's another topic too is that and this is just something that needs more awareness is these defense contractors these large companies have really achieved a level of power um that we don't give them credit for and it's not just physical uh physical power but they do literally have their own Security forces and they do literally have their own like cyber they call them cyber security but they're basically hackers that they are that work for them and they can use those umbrella corporations so that even those people are like basically you know they're not even they're hard to find on the books basically right this is something that's very scary because in a lot of these conversations in the UFO uh hearing and stuff like like that it's like do the defense contractors have this and like this is the biggest one this is for Tupa as well I'm curious for you guys to weigh in is that Tim galade said that he was the victim of a like a intelligence operation or basically they tried to convince him that the Tic Tac was us technology that's right go ahead tuba yeah he said that he was basically brought into um arrow and he they he felt defensive as if they were trying to basically reprogram him or convince him that this stuff was mostly American Tech uh and he was like on guard from that I mean but that sounds so strange to me why wouldn't you just believe this exactly how weird is that or at least get not believe it but at least give it the time of day like huh maybe come no I know it's aliens it's like you can tell that now he's biased well you know I don't if you guys know this but he took part in a like Paranormal show a couple years ago or I don't know how it could have been 10 years ago I'm not sure but he was part of a paranormal show where his daughter was in it and he was claiming like she was like psychic and that these like beings surrounded her like he's he's he's bought in to this was it on the History Channel I think so I got yeah I'll find it yeah he was getting hit with that too and that's what you realize about a lot of these guys too is that like they've got this like weird it's not quite a fetish I joke a little bit but you know we call like this fet they've got a bias towards there's this aliens have got to be out there and I need to be validated and the crazy well the the part about what I'm disclosing is that even though I have no Affinity toward I have no bias ahead of time I've come to the conclusion that it's being used as s even in that situation aliens can still be real still be out there so the other thing that was interesting though is that not only was he told just straight up this is us technology AO is trying to convince him it's us technology I have a clip which I'm not going to play now because it's weird through the xace but uh you can probably find it on my my feed of Jeremy Corbell saying that Commander fraver one of the witnesses last year one of the fighter pilots that the CIA tried to convince Commander fraver that it was locked Martin technology that he saw with the Tic Tac the very same incident same Tic Tac incident so now we have two cases and when Jeremy Corbell says CIA he might be using the term loosely he might just be people he thinks are CIA this is why I don't like these guys guys is they tell all these stories but it's like I want to just get down to the facts but in this case two different sets of cases where people were being told it's United States technology and they're rejecting it you know locki or um Commander fraver was basically like no I would know if that was us technology no he wouldn't so confident he doesn't know [ __ ] about the defense the black yeah you know about planes but you about things that don't have wings oh we don't have that capability dude do you realize that like I'm literally saying that lockie and Martin has gravity defined technology while they're selling you uh f35s for billions of dollars every year yeah like realize the implications what I'm telling you this is fraud on a scale that is like massive this cover up has greater implications than whether or not life exists somewhere in the universe right but here's the third bit I was just listening to a podcast yesterday it was a great podcast Hal POF was on it Ryan Graves was on it as well and a guy that I don't know he seemed quite in the note but Ryan Graves said and I had heard this before that the Tic Tac or some of these other it may have been the Tic Tac or different UFOs I think it was the Tic Tac he said was returning a friendly signal and if this is true how how can you think that that's an alien if you're getting a communication back using our communication mechanisms do do they just think that it's like the aliens Super Brain can communicate with like every possible mechanism or like I don't know I just think that like we've got potentially at least two maybe three instances where we we're getting we're basically being told that it's United States technology the defense contractors have it and people just don't want to believe it because you look at it right away and you just go well we must have figured it all out people have got to shift their perspective and go we are not at the Pinnacle of all understanding of physics right now in fact if you were to like make a a chart out of it you know uh we are basically at the bottom right now we're still the very infancy of understanding this one of my favorite memes is showing the exponential increase in Technologies like the iPhone 10 years ago was rubbish and now it's just this incredible device or all these different Technologies and their exponential growth yet energy generation has not advanced in however many years like barely all right let's get too far got I've got about 15 more minutes here so I want to get to a few more I want to get to a few more uh of these requests so let's bring in Star cap I see you w waving over there and you are on speaker now aoy aoy I was gonna share something with you guys that I thought was uh interesting from the hearing that is uh relative to what you're talking about with lock um wed is in the hearing he um he explained that he was trying to talk about the differences of atmospheric mediums um that the crafts were operating on and there was a point where Lou kind of stalled and he was kind of like uh I don't know if I should really kind of talk about that kind of thing and it was talking about the mediums in which the craft were operating and I think this is very Essen IAL because what I think is what we have as the Tic Tac is it's a nuclear submarine that is also an aircraft carrier that is capable of flight and if you have something like this it basically it changes the dynamic because now you have an aircraft carrier that can go underwater can go go in the air and potentially go into space and that kind of Technology if it existed if there resarch searching and developing um such Technologies would have come after World War II there was a flying submarine in World War II there was an aircraft carrier submarine in World War II so if you combine those two technologies with exotic propulsion you have a Tic Tac that is exactly what it potentially is and I believe that loed has acquired the former i400 technology or enough information and the former flying Reed submarine and combine these Technologies with some sort of exotic Energy System and that is the Tic Tac flying submarines Bros um okay you know what I think that's that's a good thought you know whatever if they're emerging out in the middle of the ocean beside our carriers and if these things are controlled by NATO for the purpose of nuclear deterrents well I'm pretty sure you could hide them in other countries and then you wouldn't be able to see what they are where they are it would explain why NATO's budget is so big and explain why the rest of the world is very interested in this nuclear Shield if it can shoot down UFOs and also deliver them and and at post Hypersonic speeds I I wouldn't tell them about that if we we had that capacity I would tell them we have it not tell them how to how it works but you know realize that we could warp people to Mars or we could warp a nuke into to the enemy and do they really want to find out or make peace because if that's the stance they really don't have much to play with oh I'd argue we've already we've already kind of done that but yeah I mean subs are like some of the most powerful equipment there was a clip from who's that guy who was who I thought was getting defense uh secretary position but he didn't end up getting it but um God I don't know his name anyway he was saying that our most valuable assets are in space and in the water talking Kos Patel yeah kosel thank you very much I knew you would you're just reading my mind over here Kos Patel he said that the most valuable assets are in space and in the water I just thought that was really interesting isn't that yeah the Normie brain the Normie brain could think oh yeah satellite submarines but if you're trying to read between the lines maybe Kos Patel is trying to get people to read between the lines and think oh you know craft outside public domain using different propulsion systems and on your point star cap about the nuclear powerered uh flying craft or levitating craft there is some Theory suggesting that black triangle tr3b if it was really called that or not was powered with some sort of nuclear reactor uh to create the electricity for it and then also use some sort of electrogravitic principles to generate the thrust so so maybe there is something to that those Tic Tacs being actually man-made using those kinds of propulsion and energy generation mechanisms yeah I want to throw another out there for you well put it on the record maybe for both you guys whoever's on the panel here is that an idea that is maybe it's my own or I borrowed it whatever is that what if these plasmas you know it's not as simple as hot Fusion like they may have a catalyst that they're using but they're also just pulling energy from The Ether and by doing that they now don't need a fuel source like they don't need a fuel tank they can get away with much less fuel than we conventionally understand what if it turns out that the basis for that like the basically like figuring how to rub sticks together to make fire the equivalent of that is realizing that this plasma wants to self-organize into like a spherical shape and when it does that it Fusion when we're we're trying to do Fusion we're trying to get a self- sustaining reaction where we can start it up and now the energy it's producing is allowing it to just perpetuate and then we can peel away some of that energy so what if we figure out that cold that Fusion doesn't have to happen at hot temperatures and there's other ways to do it with nature and that once we do it it's now just self- sustaining what if that's like a law of the universe and now any civilization anywhere like once you figure that out once you figured out exotic vacuum objects or this plasma whatever you want to call it now you figure out fire and some people are going to go and turn that into a combustion engine some people are going to turn that into a repulsion mechanism some people going to turn into a weapon or something that can warp uh a nuke for example onto somebody um what it's what we call a cosmic deterrent if uh if ET wants to [ __ ] around and find out you know have the technology to return send them home we could send them a surprise too okay real quick let me mention something on that so salvator pz had a message that uh my buddy Dave Rossi read out on video a couple weeks ago a few weeks ago now and in that he mentioned that he believed in human power human engineering human science and it was such a weird thing to say that because he almost presented the argument that like what if we were Fig what if we figured out some technology but we don't know how advanced another civilization had gotten it or what if they did the same thing that we did where they just thought you could only take it so far like we thought oh all there is is combustion engines never gets better than that there's no no no reason to think about how we produce energy anymore and now what if we figure out a way that the aliens don't know right like that's a super crazy thought which I I don't necessar think it's real but it's fun to think about is like what if we reverse engineering the alien technology to make it better than the aliens to fight back against them secretly the aliens are trying to reverse engineer our technology right maybe our Tech Tree is better than theirs on certain things and that's what they're actually looking for maybe they want us to engineer things that they're not familiar with building because it never existed on their Planet maybe they had no reason for certain technologies that we have if they underwater they wouldn't have the same technology as a civilization that lived in the air and that may be why we have divide between us and them for sure that reminds me of Stargate sg1 there's this one episode in that show where they meet the Stargate team meets some alien race and they've got all of this energetic technology but their energetic technology can't work in this scenario and then the humans have just guns shooting bullets mechanical things with controlled explosions and the aliens are like wow we those guns are amazing they're so accurate and all that it was maybe who knows that's I like this conversation because it's a matter of thinking outside the box yeah that what we've been getting fed in the media all media for the last decades 50 70 years has only been a partial truth and so when you get to the if you're playing a game of telephone and you're going backwards and you're trying to figure out what was the original message that keeps getting distorted you know in the end is rarely the same as what it came out as in the what it looked like from the end uh the beginning is very rarely different the same as what it comes out at the end and so in this case we need to be prepared for something that's Stranger Than Fiction and we also need to be able to have a mechanism by which to judge it to make be consistent with what we're missing in physics and science that's out there as well we would also have to map their civilizations um cultural perspectives so that you know we don't offer them a fork and they consider it an insult or uh understanding what their communication systems are understanding um how how often they reproduce or if they reproduce longer than us or stuff like that I I've actually created something I call the cosmic scales of civilization that we could use for that purpose and once we categorize that data about these different civilizations we can start establishing Cosmic foreign relations based on that data that's great I mean I think that we're getting a little bit ahead of ourselves but that's that's that's a good good thing to bring up in general um but yeah I mean it's it's big questions in terms of you know if there are even species out there how would we interact with them you know is Earth the only planet in the universe that actually has an atmosphere like we have or are atmospheres like we have relatively common I me I don't know why people are so excited to go to Mars but as far as I can tell our human beings can really only live on this planet unless we make an artificial atmosphere and environment somewhere else and that's a pretty big hold back that's a pretty big limitation on a lot of this stuff that I don't know if people are really considering out there we gota make we got to make like Noah on a cosmic level build a fleet of space Arc so that we can literally take our biome with us our planet's terrestrial um genetics to be able to potentially install it on other planets so that we can spread our biome because it's essential to us to live we need our food we need our water we need the things that we have in our environment to live so if we're going to go to other planets we will have to carry a lot of those things with us as well in which case we might want to make like Noah and start considering arcs yeah and be colonizers we're colonizers bring back the colonizers uh do you have any other questions I think there's probably some people that requested I don't know if you want to bring other people up yeah let's bring a few more people up and then uh finish up this conversation cool so Hollow Cipher oh Hollow Cipher what up bringing you on friend yo what up guys what's up so that I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the weeds here um so I've been following solar Cycles because in my brain we're talking about all these Energy Systems why not study the biggest nuclear you know event in our local system and one of the things I'm sure most of you guys are aware of that these neutrinos haven't been adding up as per the normal physics take on the nuclear model and so it's been kind of my my job to sess out the the the bad physics and point out where anomalies are reoccurring now as of this year um there was a very interesting publication I've been following these uh there's two main uh nutrino detectors down in Antarctica I'm sure you're familiar with them one's the uh Ice Cube array and the other one's the Anita for Antarctica uh transient antenna it's a balloon that basically they send up to about 30 kilometers now here's here's the kick ER and this gets into the Casmir effect what's in the vacuum what kind of energy are we talking about and so what did they measure they published this paper March of this year and they found a very unusual energy signature how unusual well first of all we're talking about is a nutrino called the to nutrino it's the biggest baddest of the neutrinos and let me put it in perspective CERN at its Full Tilt full Max Capacity can punch out a uh a power at 10 to the 12 which is a ter electron volt right that's Full Tilt what we measured over Antarctica is 10 to the 15 it's a PTO electron volt and I got to just stress how unusually rare this is not to mention the fact this is quote an upward shower event so it's not even coming down it's coming up as if it's either reflecting from the ice which goes to the Russian radiation Effect called the escan radiation effect which is a coherent type of beam so this is very interesting because this is so rare that we cannot there's no chance like if you asked and I did I asked J jpt like what would it take to like make one of these like pedo level not pedo sorry PTO p p level electr pest lasers yeah and it's like you would need an array that's like several time like it's 10,000 kilm Ray CERN it so we're talking about like black hole Supernova like massive massive energy levels that were detecting in our atmosphere so this is only thing they can do that is the Sun so yeah what we're getting at is so here's the kicker is that I've been this just because of this publication came out this this spring I've been analyzing the actual events we have about uh just under 20 of these events measured and it turns out there's a pattern to these events they're based basic rhythms that are based upon these fundamental torque What I Call torque fundamental harmonics that the planets in fact induce onto the Sun and as we're finding out from the Juno satellite that Jupiter has a magnetic field so large that if you were to add up all the other planets and the sun's magnetic field combined it is still not as large as Jupiter's magnetic field now the relevance of this is as we getting to these exotic Technologies we're going to have to master part of the vacuum with magnetic field cycles and this is where I'm going to drop a little hint something called a wake field laser this is a titanium Sapphire pulse laser at fento second pulsing and this is able to recreate basically High particle accelerations without all the hoopla of what you see at CERN and so I'm going to just drop jum right there because I was looking that laser up last night actually I was looking literally titanium Sapphire laser um they're they can range up to like 5,000 to 105,000 for one but you just brought up a great point at the end which I need to echo which is that these lasers we've created lasers that are so powerful that we don't need particle colliders anymore they're more powerful than the particle colliders are yep people just think about that for a second in your head this means that CERN is a scam this this La uh large hydron collider is a scam and it also means that they've either been suppressing discoveries that they've they've figured out that they they probably just explain ways they say oh we don't know what we saw here it's noise or something or it was just an incompetent waste of money either way not a great answer and we can actually achieve energy densities this is one of Salvador pas' biggest arguments much higher than what is conventionally understood I think it's one of those situations where the plasma and this is why I call it like basically like fire this is the easiest way to be able to achieve some of those energy densities that we currently do not think are achievable based on standard understanding of physics um but if we can get those then that's when the magic just starts to kick off and it might be the point now where lasers are advancing I read a a statistic by a power of 10 to the three so three zeros worth of extra power every decade every decade uh this is significant this is like we're vast we're quickly approaching the part where lasers are becoming so powerful that they can actually now start to to break through what we would consider to be the fabric of our reality um and there's going to be no way to hide it after some point in time technology Material Science is just getting more and more advanced now to shift gears what I would ask you Holo Cipher is what I your thoughts are on which I like your your presentation there I think that ai ai is something that came out of nowhere for me and now all of a sudden it's everywhere and it's getting better and better and even if it doesn't become sentient just the language learning model version of it's extremely powerful the language language learning models that I've seen that have scientific papers pumped into them are incredible incredible and I think that the that these AI models are going to prove all this science including that we can like break the swinger limit we can achieve these energy densities that are super high I think that's going to happen like soon sooner than we expect you know I'm just throwing a number on it don't hold me to this but like five or 10 years people are gonna be wondering why the AI is telling yeah totally years it's going to be two years when that the 2025 um or the 20 250th anniversary of the states happens and at that point when they have that year-long fair I bet you a lot of the technology is G be demonstrated at that fair interesting yeah Hollow Cipher go ahead um well first of all I love hearing you and Jordan working together you guys are like peanut butter and jam and uh I wish you guys would do more of this [ __ ] together so uh good on you guys and um yeah you know I've been feeding AI uh perplexity Chad I mean it's super helpful I mean even when I like somehow prompt it in the way that I wasn't wanting to and it points out something that I've like apparently like just overlooked like I had these two frequencies that I had reduced down from two different sets of data and I've been working with them for years and it pointed out to me like dummy these are a two to1 ratio this is a perfect fifth and I was like no [ __ ] how do I like I've been looking at this data forever and I didn't actually know that and it just pointed out to me I'm like holy [ __ ] so yeah like apparently you know we're smart as we're as we could be but the AI will sometimes point out the obvious to that maybe you didn't even you know in incur but I just wanted to throw one other little I think highly relevant detail here about things in plain sight this is a patent from Tesla from uh April 18th 1905 it's titled art of transmitting electrical energy through the natural mediums check out what he says here I'm just going to take take one Little Slice out of this but this to me is like mindblowing that he says this in 1905 he says third the most essential requirement is however the re irrespective of frequency the wave or wave train should continue for a certain interval of time which I've estimated to not be less than 112th or probably 084 seconds and which should takeen passing to and returning from the region diametrically opposite of the pole wait for it over the Earth's surface with a mean velocity of 47124 kilometers per second so when you divide that into the speed of light I mean staying in in metric here it turns out to be exactly 1.57 times faster than the speed of light which is exactly half of Pi so I thought that was kind of interesting that he dropped that all out in a patent in 1905 if you know what I'm saying yeah uh Tesla understood the idea of radiant energy and I just think something it's super important for people to understand is that the energy we use today is still alternating current which is what Tesla discovered the very person whose mechanism of energy that we use everywhere in the world today is based on Nicola Tesla uh based on his idea of spinning a copper coil through a magnetic field and It produced current electricity if you really boil that down you realize that the thing that's changing the variable that's changing that happens there is time time time shifts coil changes Direction the current changes Direction now we have something called alternating current there and if we can imagine other mechanisms that are different than how Tesla invented that then that can change not just how we consume uh electricity and energy but potentially where that energy can come from can change as well we might be able to tap into uh tap into it in a more efficient way uh on top of that so you know to me it's just kind of lazy that we've we've we've gotten ourselves into this sense that everything is plain Jane and to the point that holoc ciper is bringing up harmonics are actually important because everything is waves and you look at wave Behavior you see that there's something called a standing wave where the waves just kind of become coherent where it almost looks like they're not even moving and these harmonic frequencies when you get to a frequency where you have a standing wave um you know that might be the secret for how we can amplify energy or manipulate energy or interact with it uh at the you know Quantum scale as Jordan and I were talking about yeah he wrote don't use that evil word he wrote letters to Herz right and asked him about these quote non-h herian waves which he then later dubbed radiant waves right so and the fact that he's labeling them out as going super luminal should tell you something that he he was already on to like whatever it's tach on whatever the hell you want to call it like he was aware of that somehow that you could transmit energy at that rate would you know defy all of our laws of physics at this point yeah we believe that energy falls off by the inverse Square law and that's why we can the big question people should ask is how are we actually even wirelessly transmitting energy at all if the space is empty that shouldn't be possible right and the big question is how do we do it over long distances conventional physics says that's not possible Tesla certainly believed that it was possible because he believe he understood there was an ether he understood there was a medium and if there's a medium just because we have our electromagnetic field cancel out to zero doesn't mean that there's nothing there again a inhoff bone effect if you want to trigger physicists mainstream physicists that are out there you say well what's your explanation for the Ain Hoff bom effect and they'll go well it's it's explained and you're going well what's the explan what's the like give me the five-year-old explanation of how this is explained because space is empty you can't really explain the airof B effect uh you know it shouldn't be seen in this phase shift that we're seeing that's out there um so Tesla yeah he there wasn't even a quantum mechanics didn't even exist when Tesla was around we didn't have Zero Point Energy he just called it radiant energy well it did come it did come out during his time and he actually during the later part of his life he referred to it as a quote dead Alleyway end or something to that effect it was a dead end and that's fine too because this is the thing we shouldn't not just no one scientist is right about everything no one person is right about everything this is some parts where people get too obsessed with Tesla like Tesla deserves way more credit than what he's been getting way more heck I used to think he was a mythological figure I didn't even think he was a real person you realize he's a real person you're like oh wow why are we not treating him that well Einstein probably deserves a little bit less he deserves a lot of credit great guy but probably deserves a little bit less and in some Cas is like it's we're really just like kind of leveling up these theories but at some point with modern physics we've just reached a roadblock where like we can't go any further forward because we've been just making up too much [ __ ] for too long and because we didn't want to admit that people were right years and years and years and years ago and that goes all the way back to literally Tesla when he was talking about beaming radiant energy and people even took it a step further and they realized that well we can make these scalar potentials like basically imagine like a beam of scalar potential that you can't detect Electro magnetically but we can send we can beam it anywhere we want distance-wise and they realized if we do that with two beams of electromagnetic of zero electromagnetic field and we interact them at a distance interfere them at a distance so we create constructive and destructive interference with those wave patterns we can produce energy at a distance and we can absorb energy at a distance and that energy has to go somewhere you either have to beam the energy to that location or you can pull the energy from that location and now you have that energy wherever you want and there looks to be a German group emerging uh that's saying that they can actually use graphine layers to essentially uh uh like we almost seen the piso electric effect they're using graphine layers to absorb these uh neutrinos and they're saying that it's actually a viable uh uh energy source for us so it's gonna be exciting we should actually do a deep dive on that soon enough so on the topic of Tesla's radiant energy uh this weekend actually today I just got to South Carolina for the Badlands media conference and here this weekend uh will be Lieutenant General Steve Quast he's a retired Air Force General he was a pilot and he was in some command posts in the air Force years back uh but he is now working with a company called space built space BT and one thing they are working on is putting satellites in space with giant uh so with giant solar panels on them to more effectively get solar energy from the Sun than these solar panels would be on earth and then from the satellites would use Tesla's idea of radiant energy transmission and beam that energy directly to any device whether it's a car or a home or cell phone here on this planet so uh as far as I understand there are currently people and companies working on these kinds of Technologies and trying to get the decentralized tech out to the public domain so check into uh Steve qu have you SE have you not seen his clip from when he was yeah yeah I've seen his clip for sure I've talked to him a few times in person I had him on my podcast yeah I've talked a few times in person I had him on my podcast earlier I think last year but it's fascinating dude and and apparently he was one of the guys that was instrumental in creating the space force um few years back urging Trump to do it how do you spell that last name k w retired Air Force General Lieutenant St Lieutenant General Steve Quast yeah he's a guy who he knows more than what he's saying up front like he so for people who don't know there's a clip I'll probably play it after the space if you're on my YouTube channel where he's talking about be a wirelessly beam energy from outer space and that's not conventionally thought to be possible because of the inverse Square law long distance Wireless beaming of high efficiency transfer of energy is considered to be impossible practically right now and that was weird because he also in the same clip mentioned that we can transport a person from anywhere on Earth to anywhere else in under an hour and I went what saying right now bro like what under an hour like start to finish anywhere to me that's you're talking about some kind of propulsion system that nobody knows about or just straight up tep they got the war warp gates underneath bro there you go anyway go ahead Andrew Bago was a 2012 and 2016 presidential candidate who claimed that his his father was involved in the DARPA project that used these um jump Gates and uh they they even claimed that Obama was part of the program and the White House officially denied that Obama went to Mars because of the rumors that this guy had created in his presidential run yeah I call [ __ ] on Bago but that's just me in my opinion yeah I mean honestly the funny part is warp gates could be something that be possible but material science-wise it seems like pretty far beyond where we're at unless we dug them up in Star Trek or Stargate sg1 or whatever is like a do a documentary um but you know you know what hey when you're talking about wormholes and teleporting stuff you know you got to just be open-minded basically anything at that point so uh so yeah anyway Steve quas very very interesting person has made some pretty interesting claims and what I will say regarding his claims of beaming energy and how we can transport people some or whatever like that uh you know when when people are making some of these powerful claims you don't have to be in a specif specific position in the military to be exposed to this technology it's that like we they're buying stuff from defense contractors that is what they call pfm uh pure [ __ ] magic is what that stands for and if you get exposed to that and you see that that you see that somebody bought some kind of scale a weapon communic or communication system or something that you're just smart enough that you know like hey that's not supposed to be considered possible but you know some branch of the Marines Army Navy whatever wherever you are they're bu buing this spending big money on it or using it and deploying it now you're exposed to it now you know about it now you know it's there you might know who they buying it from stuff like that so the weird part of the military is that you might be exposed to it on any level just from being kind of in the right spot at the right time but you also might be at the top levels like generals Admirals and you're not briefed in on these projects this is why the Admiral Wilson uh and Eric Davis memos are so big that Admiral Wilson was actually the guy who was in charge of oversite over these like special access programs and he didn't even have his access himself and you had to be on these special lists to get access and this is basically the only connection between the government and these defense contractors that have these special programs so a lot of people should be much more openminded about what we as humans might have figured out you know and what defense contractors might have figured out without telling us all right guys unfortunately I have to go um fun space Sorry to yeah sorry to end this sobly we we've been going for almost two hours here so so your final thoughts what was your final thoughts I'll do mine and then we can close it down maybe also and Jordan don't you have a dock coming out can you give us the lowdown on that oh yeah thanks for bringing that up man so yeah it's actually already out um it exposes some of the fraudulent nature of certain influencers in theuh UFO movement you know I used to do work with David Wilcock and Cory good back in the day back in 2017 18 time frame and I learned some not so good things about those gentlemen and I and some others who used to work with them share their thoughts in a new film film series that came out called the dark Alliance inside story of the cosmic cons and the first two episodes are out on Amazon for 99 cents each or they're on tub so you can watch them for free uh on Tu if you want but yeah there should be some more episodes coming out soon I'll be doing uh some podcasts around the UFO circuit on that and yeah there's there's I mean the main the social media sphere is the wild Wild West right now and it's a blessing and a curse it's good that people are moving away from the mainstream media and the establishment information authorities but then they're getting swept up in the alternative Media or social media sphere in these different whether it's the Patriot or disclosure Q or UFO whatever movement and then there's these grifters that or disinformation assets at worst just grifters at best they just descend upon this open space face and they put out a bunch of BS and create these Cults of personalities around themselves and their their fake narratives so this documentary goes into some of the fakery in the UFO sphere yeah that's the big rub is that in a situation like this with extraordinary stuff happening it's easy for people to jump in and say Here's all the answers you know right and that's what I've been hesitant to try to go and do and this is why I'm I'm kind of repeat a lot about like this is an a cult I'm forming here this is just we're following science that's out there in fact I haven't really even discovered much myself I've just discovered stuff that's already out there and stuff like that but there really is something real that's here um and there and stuff that's out there that's been claimed to be fake or debunked some of that stuff's real that's out there and how do we tell the difference you know for me the answer is science go ahead and that's why I appreciate your approach is because you just say I I don't know for sure but then you posit ideas that sound like they could be reasonable and you bring up a little bit of evidence or background as to why you think these ideas could be reasonable but at the end of there you're like I I don't know for sure I'm just going off what these people said these people said right and it's it's those out there who claim they're getting Intel or classified briefings or have Insiders or are claiming these just like fantast these freaking Fantastical things and people are believing him blindly believing him and it's a problem it's a it's going to be you know like Elon says we are the news now which is a great thing but it also comes with problems and one of those problems is well you're going to get a lot of grifters or disinfo assets descend upon the space to muddy the waters yeah and I think that I prefer to be on the the side where we let that exist right where we don't censor it but we let the marketplace of ideas play itself out you know 100% you don't you don't censor them but you also don't be scared to call out the BS where you see it and it also requires humility because you could be calling out BS it's actually true so you know it just requires conversation but also getting all sides of each story and not just one person's side yeah and I'm glad people are out there that are skeptical I'm ultimately a skeptical minded person myself um but you know it is hard sometimes to tell what is true and what is not that's out there so uh you know thanks everybody for listening to our conversation here today I hope you guys got a little bit more up to speed on the Congressional hearings and I look forward to talking to uh Jordan and and the crowd here again soon you want to do another one of these soon Ashton yeah it'll be fun man pretty fun hell yeah dud we'll get it we'll get it set up sometime in the near future all right guys thank you so much for tuning in this evening talking about these UFO hearings and we will see where that goes from here have a good evening everyone take care thanks bro okay chat that was fun so uh thanks to Jordan big thanks to Jordan for uh you know doing that space I think that it's just a matter of education for for trying to get the information out there for people I did want to go and show you some other stuff as well uh I want to talk about um what are we going to do actually uh so first thing I want to go over is that there were a bunch of appointments today that are significant because in this investigation we've also learned that it's not just about this technology but who are the people that are in the know and we learned that the CI a director and the Director of National Intelligence are two of those positions John Radcliffe is going to be the next director of the CIA I don't know much about him but he has been asked about UFO stuff in the past interesting and Tulsi Gabbert was just assigned the Director of National Intelligence wow Tulsi Gabbert Tulsi wow very interesting these are the people that are going to be seeing the videos of UFOs and then briefing Donald Trump to get his White House policy what's gonna be the policy for this or that so these people are gonna know who they're going to know about the UFO technology they're going to know what the real story behind it is absolutely huge yeah wow is right and also I mean this was huge guys like I can't believe I haven't been tweeting about it because it's just these appointments are massive if you are a Zero Point Energy disclosure Advocate if you are an MH 370x follower we got like everything's playing out amazingly well right now from the political perspective we got rid of all the old guard the people that committed MH370 the people that have been covering it up they're all out Trump's coming in he's aligning new people that have basically been on the record saying they want to clean up all the [ __ ] New Perspective New Perspective Matt Gates is going to be the Attorney General Matt Gates the Matt Gates that is in this video that I'm about to show right now is in gonna be the Attorney General in a clear diamond formation for which there is uh a radar sequence that I and I alone have observed in the United States Congress one of the pilots goes to check out that diamond formation and sees a large floating what I can only describe as an orb again like I said not of any human capability that I'm that I'm aware of and when he approached he said that his radar went down he said that his Fleer system malfunctioned and that he had to manually take this image um from one of the lenses and it was not automatic automated uh in collection as you would typically see in a test mission so uh I guess I'll so wow Matt Gates congratulations Matt Gates attorney general the Deep State hates that they hate this this is their Ultimate Nightmare Matt Gates is a dude that doesn't give a [ __ ] he's gonna wipe out the Old Guard right he's I I think he said he's down with like figuring out what the real thing that happened with January 6 oh they hate that if you're coming after their scops that is the number one thing that they're going to be angry about they try to get Matt gates with some some rape charge or something like that as well which may or may not have been manufactured made up like Matt Gates definitely has been in the know on the UFO phenomenon there was another clip with him that I don't have handy where he's basically saying like it's is all like an Open Secret at this point that we've got all this stuff and I'm hearing now that Republicans are GNA say um yeah see this is the fake thing they were making up about Matt Gates something thing about him paying miners Dev this is this ended up all being fake this was all fake and they only do that when someone's really a threat oh man I didn't have my brand up in the background bring it back chat there it is we're back chat we're back uh the Republican the the fake ass Republican unip party people are afraid of Matt Gates too like Lindsey Graham May in the Senate May try to prevent the appointment of Matt Gates the confirmation of Matt Gates because they're going to all get taken out not taken out but like you know they're going to get taken to the cleaners like the attorney general I'm not really sure exact Powers they have but I'm pretty sure it's like figuring out who we send the law after like who we send the law after um you're watching a white hat plan and action it's going to be gorgeous buckle your seat belts your going to be amazed I love your attitude Paul I hope that you're right but we will find out I my expectations are extremely low for disclosure of Zero Point Energy but I'm extremely happy that we've gone into this upper echelon now where we can talk about Zero Point Energy where people are talking about it in Congressional hearings it's being taken seriously that's a huge advancement in the right Direction whoa the mo holy crap brother wow there you go steak dinner for me right there thank you very much Mo appreciate it uh yeah I'm just doing it man some people are like oh Ashton you're obsessed or whatever not really I mean I'm obsessed with the truth in general I found the greatest story ever so you know what like I've said all along until the US government ad it's what they know about this plane it ain't ending people are constantly trying to tell me they found the plane you're gonna look so stupid when they find the plane and I keep going they're never GNA find that plane every time a big thing comes out mark this tomorrow 24 hours from now greatest story in the world this is the thing that actually happened last week people going Ashton's grift is finally going to be up as if like I'm I'm grifting off of this I have not yet begun to grift chat I have not yet begun to grift and so no I'm unshakable H the case is never going away until we get the answers that we want about this plane I'm I'm a th% sure the United States government knows exactly what happened and I'm 100% sure that MH370 videos are real so let's listen to a clip yeah when I actually started grifting you'll know it probably because I will own it I'm not going to run away from it if I'm grifting people I'm just going to legitimately tell people I am um here we go Luna energy source okay so guys basic rundown of the thing we we uh talked about the hearing there was actually some decent questions I can understand let's go back to full screen I understand why the community is disappointed because B basically MH370 videos are getting confirmed to be real and all their stuff they were hoping for tell me the aliens are real actually I think I have a c clip of this yeah I think I do hold on uh I think it's this one Z it wasn't aliens that Zapped the plane it was US military this looks obvious in hindsight right because people would have had some fear cuz they're thinking oh crap aliens are zapping us out of existence I thought no I don't think they do that I mean they could I just don't think they do that though that was not the clip I was looking for but it's a great clip anyway the clip I was trying to find was that everybody's expecting the government to be like aliens are real aliens are now I've invalidated now my parent my family doesn't think I'm crazy at Thanksgiving when I'm talking about the aliens like that's never going to happen that's not going to happen in fact the next hearing should be how POF Eric Davis Salvador pz and citizen journalist Ashton Forbes if you get us that hearing next we're gonna blow the doors off this thing Eric Davis and Hal Poff and salaya is their job basically to be there and be like yes the C science that Ashton is saying is actually legit and real we're we're all phds that worked in Black because they can't say they can't say exactly what like they have ndas themselves but when it comes to talking about science there's nothing secret about that I mean there is but they can at least say whether or not what I'm saying is legit or not right yeah and that's how that that would be literally the final boss like we have to have the final battle if you want real disclosure it can only happen if you fought the final boss the final UFO disclosure boss like it literally is like Salvador pz is like the character that's like he's one of the bosses but he's on your side kind of like he wants you to win and then Eric Davis is like the second boss right before the B final boss like you think Eric Davis is the final boss but then you find out nope it was his boss he was the real boss was should have just realized it all along how P off and then you go into the room after you defeated Eric Davis you thought you won nope there's how P off been in been wrote a quantum mechanics textbook developed the first tunable laser he has been in the Stanford Research Institute for he was in that for decades one of the best friends or colleagues with Ken shoulders who figured out exotic vacuum objects has been in the UFO realm under Bigalow and in defense in private contractor private contractors for decades and he's also written some of the earliest papers on Zero Point Energy all roads lead to how P off they really do simple he's the final boss yeah I'm glad you guys appreciate it because it's funny but also 100% real and the scary part is he's ice cold chat he's ice cold like there he gets asked some questions I don't know if I'm gonna have the clips on me right now oh crap where's the thing guys I'll probably find it here in a second but he was in a podcast yesterday he mentions the DDS and he's he says though like oh we we haven't figured out how to do it yet right like he's presenting this Narrative of aliens aliens know the technology how it works but we're just stumbling through it trying to understand it but his story doesn't make any sense yeah he's got 100% Pokerface his story doesn't make any sense though he's been writing these Zero Point Energy papers since the 80s you're trying to tell me that he just divined that the answer was Zero Point Energy in 19 1987 with his hydrogen paper and then in 1989 with his and me then every paper after that just fleshing out this this whole understanding first of all obviously he saw something you don't write like eight papers in a row about Zero Point Energy unless like you saw something and now you've been inspired and then the other side of is you're telling me in that period of time where you've had your patent approved five different times you have a literal gravitational communication patent guys chat how POF has a literal gravity communication device using the a andof bom effect that's been approved five different variations of it he's probably made all his money off this patent he's trying to tell me we haven't figured this technology out what are you talking about bro I don't believe you at all if halp off tries to tell me we haven't figured this technology I just give him this look chat you give him that look bro come on come on the bigger question is why is how pudol not gone whistleblower sooner and has he been a gatekeeper where is how plut off's Allegiance when I was in that space just now Jordan presented the optimistic view what if one fact wants like this scop version and this other faction wants everything to come out I actually think that the answer is the opposite the answer is there's one faction that wants part of it to come out the stuff that's they've deemed is not a national security risk like aliens are real the other faction doesn't want anything to come out the other faction says you can't say anything because any leak of any of the information will eventually allow somebody to deduce the truth like we've done in this investigation we were able to deduce how our spy satellite surveillance system works just from one leaked video of a spy satellite that nobody knew how it operated that we had to just even deduce that the video was real to begin with and then we had to deduce exactly how it worked and today we got validation that this is exactly how the Spy satellites work so we're going to go check and we're going to watch this video right now I've probably gotten Community noted I'm actually surprised I haven't because when my posts get over a million views it's like automatic Community note basically whoa I have not been Community noted yet 2.5 million 2.5 million chat taking off chat how many times gone viral chat we're less than an hour into this UFO hearing and I've already heard some significant claims so the guys for some people this is only eight hours and this has already got 2.5 million views that's pretty impressive for Twitter um for some people the UFO hearings didn't give them any valid information for us less than one hour in Tim galade said that we have satellite videos of UFOs he gave away the game he said we have satellite videos of UFOs Michael shellenberger then supported him and said we have full motion video Fleer infrared and low earth orbit satellites why is that part huge look at what we're looking at chat the angle on this satellite this imagery doesn't necessarily have have to be getting beamed from a moving satellite but the data is coming from a satellite and the angle of perspective we're looking at here is not consistent with geostationary it's consistent with low earth orbit it's too close it's too close and it's also at an angle it's at a sharp angle this angle is low earth orbit angle it's hard to deduce exactly our surveillance capabilities with like no information at all but we've done a pretty good job I think chat so I mean this video what the information that came out today said that now the hoaxer would have to have inside information about how United States military works because we're looking at infrared and thermal as well right it we're looking at thermal here as well it turns out this is exactly what the military uses to record UFO videos exactly what they use what we learned today is what we're seeing here in these 10-year-old videos has now been admitted thermal and infrared and satellite video not just moving not just still pictures satellite video are some of the key mechanisms that they have been hiding UFO videos I mean guys what this is from 10 years ago and now just today they're admitting we have these surveillance capabilities that is crazy yeah what we're looking at here is technically an infrared video that is third with a thermal like software layer added to it I believe I've had to learn a lot about thermal videos and infrared videos military videos military surveillance I didn't even want to know all this stuff guys I didn't want to know all this but we won't just admit that we teleported an airliner if we just admitted right away we teleported an airliner I wouldn't have to go to these lengths to prove to people that these videos are real that right there one thing I want to point out for if you really think this video is fake realize you can see the Wormhole collapse here I'm going to go frame by frame here okay you can actually watch it collapse this is important first frame okay it's this size next frame it's bigger it's bigger right what's going to happen in the third frame it got smaller again it got smaller there are no conventional explosion events that get smaller like this they all just expand outward go look at a mushroom cloud that and then it's gone you can see it open and close in four frames just four frames so we've gotten 2.5 Mill milon views not yet Community noted not yet Community noted chat end of the day I don't really even care for the people that want to know a lot of people want to know how much money is Ashton making off of this my last X payment was $196 or something like that so I get more money and in an average stream some of these streams that I do random streams like this I get paid more money honestly uh I do see people that are getting paid like 10 thousands of dollars and things like that and I look at it and I go wow you actually can turn this into something but those people are talking about like Normie [ __ ] Normie stuff when you're talking about conspiracy stuff and things like this advertisers don't want to advertise with you so even though I get pretty decent engagement metrics millions of views every single week or whatever it doesn't translate into big bucks if I wanted to sell out I absolutely could sell out I could switch my account and my 200,000 followers and start doing little dog pictures and [ __ ] like that I could turn my account into a Lulu fan club account Lulu the Husky fan club account and just do videos of Lulu every day she's sleeping right there it's cute as hell it would probably get a million views and that advertisers love those views because it's stupid people it's dumb people that are just consuming just consuming it's just literally a video of a Husky dog sleeping and millions of people watch it and then they consume products consume products right I would get I probably could quit my job and do that I really probably could I'm doing this [ __ ] on hard mode chat Hard Mode no mainstream media going against the grain on what is being told To Us by Our Heroes that are out there uh literally going and learning the science to the degree where people are literally calling me physicists people are actually calling me a physicist um uh Clayton Morris called me a physicist where's the clip there it is chat I love how he paused here and he was going to say my friend he was going to say my friend Clayton we caught you in 4k he was about to say my friend Ashton Forbes that's it Clayton Morris and I are friends chat you're about to hear him say it here we we got him in 4k Ash and Forbes and Clayton Morris are friends get ready you're not alone in the cosmos I think we all know that and some very important though on the record discussions about how these alien craft travel using aetheric energy um again I we're done past the Bodies part of this whole hearing we got that we know that we have bodies right we know that I love Clayton he's like look man we know we got bodies we already know we got the bodies like let's just move past alien bodies like whatever you know and this is where I love Clayton's approach Clayton's approach is like okay I'm all in on it whatever keep it going just you know tell me what where does this story go you know you okay I'll I'll take you at phas Value that we got alien bodies right like me it's like aliens exist okay cool what next what about the etheric energy what's their energy source that we have the craft so how exactly are they traveling and finally we started getting questions about aetheric energy about Zero Point Energy I encourage you to watch my deep dive interview about The Disappearance of MH370 Malaysian airlines with my with physicist he was about to say friend with my friend Ashton Forbes we caught him right there he was about to say it chat followed up get ready anybody who says he wasn't about to say friend you're getting banned banned from the stream disappearance of MH370 Malaysian airlines with my with physicist um Ashton Forbes it's a I think it has almost two million views here on the channel I go and watch that interview he's he's Aston astonishing yeah okay so I need to say it's my bad that we haven't done a free energy followup I've just been crazy busy it's really really hard to keep focusing on my job when I've got all this stuff going on on the in the background and I've been trying to focus on my job and not do all this stuff from podcast he but yes he was about to say friend I I heard it you guys heard it friend and physicist he called me a physicist chat technically physicist is just it's since physicists generally deal with Theory being a physicist is just kind of a term that you throw out there to somebody anybody can be a physicist but I love it because it plays back against the mainstream media views that even a normie guy like me can be a physicist and they hate it because oh he didn't go to MIT he didn't get his PhD he can't be a physicist he's not allowed to have ideas you have to go on one of my accredited ivy league institutions if you want to be a real physicist this is why I love being called a physicist this is why I love it okay uh next video chat we're not done yet is is a that true b or you guys hearing the reports of that and see I think moving forward in regards to technology Mr Gold if you can answer this real quickly some of the these aircraft it seems that they are operating off of energy that we don't currently have uh but just yes or no in your opinion if we were able to obtain that would that impact Humanity for the better or negative would certainly save us some money on funding an aremis this is a national security issue that if there is such technology out there we're not the only country that might have access to it we don't want to be on the wrong end of technological surprise okay so first of all love an Aina is attitude Anna Pina Luna's attitude here you know she's like kind of sitting back just she's just kind of chilling right like so how's it going there uh Mike gold you know I love her attitude I love her posture here and then she asked the question guys it was anap Pina Luna in the office hearing asking the question what is the energy source she just asks they must be using some kind of energy source right what are they using to fly around like that she asked the question and she adds a little disclaimer there that makes me wonder maybe somebody in her cabinet in her little in her group uh watches the four orbs maybe because she asked is it going to be for our betterments or our worse our destruction whatever you want to think of it and that's the question that we need to be asking I think that anybody that realizes that this physics of zero energy is not some error in the math or something like that is extremely significant then they start to wonder how dangerous is this what can we really do if we take our theory that we've now substantiated Z Point Energy pulling energy from The Ether what can we do with this and what was Mike Gold's response that's a national security issue in fact it's the national security issue it's the national security issue it is the number one national security issue that's what this whole thing is about what do we think it is that they're holding behind their back hiding from us he just told us the energy whatever the energy source is that's the national security issue that's what we're not allowed to talk about and it's exactly what Clayton Morris just brought up the etheric energy etheric energy is correct it sounds kind of silly to say etheric energy but it's energy from The Ether energy from The Ether is etheric energy and he uses the term ether the same reason I use the term ether because that's what the people that figured all this physics out called it just you can call it quantum foam if you want sounds kind of gross to me you can call it Zero Point Energy Zero Point fluctuations you can call it whatever you want to call it it's fine but there's an sea of energy that's out there that we're skirting around in okay um let me see if there's any other notes that I missed so uh Andy is it Andy Aug agles representative uh where's my search bar chat yeah representative Andy ogles actually came in late but he made it in time and he asked some good questions at the end about like technology and the implications of the technology which I thought were pretty great actually I just remembered I have more bookmarks I think of more Clips so let me take a quick look here um yeah there's a couple more Clips we've got at a minimum MTZ okay here we go let's we're just going to watch all these clips so Anna Pina Luna was the darkh horse today that asked the question I would not have expected it to be an PL Luna uh but yeah she's the one to ask the question Tim Brett was actually probably the most disappointing line of questions out of everybody out there today which was sad I expected way more from him than anybody else Fight Club correct you specifically said the document said you can't talk about Crash retrieval well you know you can't talk about Fight Club if there's no Fight Club correct you specifically said the document said you can't talk about Crash yeah so the uh you can't talk about Fight Club if there's no Fight Club I think it's a pretty good point to make yeah Eric Burleson was a little underwhelming as well I thought he would ask more science questions on quantum mechanics he went after the the defense contractors instead but it's a losing battle you're just never going to get you're never going to get anything out of the defense contractors um what was this clip of Michael shellenberger one involved orb surrounding enforcing an F22 out of its Patrol area one involved orb surrounding enforcing an F22 out of its Patrol area one involved orbs surrounding enforcing an F-22 out of its Patrol area so orbs forcing an F22 out of its Patrol area orbs guys you think it's just a coincidence that where all all these UFO stuff is just orbs in a triangle formation nowadays just all orbs in a triangle formation just mysteriously out of nowhere uh let's watch Jared moscowitz questioning Lou alzando the first minute and a half of this was actually pretty good about uaps science data collection stigma a lot of non-believers in all of this would just ask a very simple question why why is it so hard right like why are people anytime they ask why are they always thwarted why are they always judged why is they always have misinformation spread why is there always retri tion why is it always met with an ear what's the why if it doesn't exist why is there why is it such a problem I think if you go through the history of science uh representative it is always difficult for breakthroughs and new information regardless of whether it's UAP or any other kind of Discovery and in science we're supposed to be open but when you break with the Orthodoxy of what's believed whether it's Galileo saying that uh the Earth doesn't rotate or the Earth rotates around the Sun or the sun doesn't rotate around the earth it's always challenging for new beliefs and the more extraordinary those discoveries and the more extraordinary those new beliefs it's very difficult so that clip right there is the money clip this guy Mike gold knows this guy knows about technology you only make a statement like that if you know that Academia is wrong a lot of these guys have just been treated so well they're so privileged that he can just sit up there and just know that all of Academia is wrong and go yep look Academia are kind of idiots uh you know it's been it's out there it's been suppressed we refuse to accept it we ridicule it we make fun of it we do whatever we've got to do to ignore it so that we can keep our fragile egocentric worldview intact that's what that's all about that's what it's all about just like when we said when Galileo said that the Earth revolves around the Sun and the Orthodox he said no we will kill you for that that is blasphemy that is lies that because discredited people's way of life remember like Max plank science advances one funeral at a time I I think this is natural there's natural conservatism that when it comes to science but this issue in particular has been very difficult where again even to attempt to study it becomes problematic but every hearing like this every news report uh every video documentaries I was privileged to be a part of something Dan far is putting together I think many of us have interviewed for it documentary over 30 uh different government officials every Brick in the Wall will help get us closer to getting to the truth I appreciate that uh Mr alzando did I have that correct sir I'm going to put my I'm a recovering lawyer so I'm going to put my hat on for a second you said you signed a document love that who gave that to you the US government sir okay you have a copy of it um it is stored in the skiff right now uh I do not have possession of it the US government does what department of the US government gave you this document I will say the Department of Defense unfortunately I can't say in this forum much more than that you specifically said the document said you can't talk about Crash retrieval well you know you can't talk about Fight Club if there's no Fight Club correct okay just okay I don't I can't listen to this guy anymore so basically I mean he asks him about I think I think that's when he ask him too about like the the dod and whether or not um the or sorry whether the defense contractors have the technology as well which of course they all Dodge they all Dodge it they all say can't be possible we can't possibly understood it so okay we've reached the point now in this disclosure thing where we need to talk to the engineers we we need to be talking to Engineers now enough of talking to these people that claim they're in the no with secondhand information or whatever if we're going to talk to people with secondhand information you might as well be talking to Ashton Forbes you might as well be talking to me might as well be talking to me I can read the same information and disseminate it and yet I can take it a step for further and I can explain how the physics closes the gaps in our current understanding right now um okay so let's watch real quick a clip of this guy Ashton Forbes oh I realized we're we've gone almost two and a half hours here but okay Limitless episode 28 uh with Matt Bell I think he pronounces it Bells Bell uh this was a great episode This is actually the best clip I've ever seen of one of my podcast appearances it's so good I'm GNA Put It On full screen mode okay full screen mode chat we are monitoring breaking news from Southeast Asia tonight where Malaysia Airlines is reporting they have lost contact with flight MH370 what are they hiding about a missing airline that disappeared 10 years ago there really is a cover up related to this plane the United States must know exactly what happened to this plane if this plane did crash into the ocean it would have been leaked to the internet here's Sal imagery United States saw it here's exactly where it crashed blah blah blah the person who leaked these videos had an emotional reaction just witnessed 270 people disappear and I have to tell people about this so why are we seeing a flash here because we're breaking through the fabric of reality like is that aliens oh no this is us we've got these black projects and we've figured out this technology that's well above the Public's understanding and you go well how are they hiding all this the ansers are not it's all in the open all the scientific papers are published I look at that technology in those videos and to me it's very easy to see how that could become a doomsday weapon but I think that even as amazing as it is to say that we teleported a Boeing Triple 7 in 2014 that's just the beginning Podcast chat uh check it out that I mean yeah boom that trailer is hype chat extremely hype because we've reached the point now uh we're I so I have this podcast of how P off and stuff on there but I think we're gonna have to wait till Friday to talk about it we just gone over too much stuff tonight I'm tired I'm exhausted I've got a lot of work to do tomorrow um but uh and I don't have time tonight to talk about scaler waves but I have talked about it uh several times on some of my other live streams that are out there so check out that interview with Matt the reason why it's so big is that we've ascended past the era of having to explain why the videos are real every time ascended past the era of having to dig into all of the nuance of all the evidence every time just going over the evidence all the evidence can take six hours minimum six hours and now just got to the point where like I'm talking to people that are open-minded about it that have woken up to it and talking about the physics talking about the implications of what it means to the UFO movement disclosure movement and what it means for our civilization and that's just more fun than talking about going over the evidence repeatedly over and over and over and over and over um I think that the evidence speaks for itself and if people really want that kind of Deep dive they can look through all my live streams they can look through the old evidence reviews they can go watch other some of the other podcasts that I've already gone through all the evidence that's out there at this point we need to Simply bring awareness to Zero Point Energy which is why I was hoping zpe disclosure would make another comment we need to do what this guy's doing we need to bring awareness to Zero Point Energy we need to make people realize it's not just Science Fiction it's not just Science Fiction it's a real thing and we want to be investing in it and we want to be the best in the world because whoever controls this technology control the world control the planet it's coming out one way or another we're just pushing it forward a little bit faster than what our masters want us to know and understand so okay MH370 X you guys are awesome that was a fun chat uh I do not have Jordan's Channel you can probably find it it's Jordan sather on on X probably in his profile that's out there um Friday I plan to go over this episode here which I'll show I've never heard of this podcast but then again I've never heard of like any of the UFO podcasts so uh Beyond paradigms Ultra Advanced Technologies they talk with Hal pudol Ryan Graves and Travis Taylor Travis Taylor sounds nothing like what I would expected him to sound like and that's how you guys know that I never knew who Travis Taylor was I didn't realize he was going to have like a super southern accent so obviously I've never watched Skinwalker Ranch or whatever he's on I think he's on Skinwalker Ranch this guy Larry forsley was also really interesting so I'll give you a quick hype right now on this I'll play I'm gonna play like one minute of this nuclear reactions or uh lattice confinement Fusion extended electrod Dynamics which is basically taking what we all love with Maxwell's equations and then correcting some pieces that seem to have been left out and then last the role of uaps and the the consideration for the meeting was that the power source that uaps use may very well be something like lattice confinement fusion and that the potential electrogravitics as applied to propulsion may be how they get around so there's an overlap there and that sub went to that meeting we had another one on so he lattice confinement Fusion I think they're just using fancy words for cold fusion basically uh could be wrong maybe he thinks it's hot Fusion but pretty sure he's basically saying cold fusion right there he's saying they're either using cold fusion or they're using free energy and that yeah I mean it's a pretty powerful uh claim to to make right there so we're probably yeah honestly this podcast was better than the hearing probably uh but the hearing hearing wasn't useless it just it for the Normy people that are out there the hearing is not pushing the needle for the people like you guys or me it's confirming aspects of the case that we've only been able to speculate today so okay guys you guys have a great night I'm going to go to sleep I'm exhausted thank you mhg 70x I love you guys have a good one enjoy the MH370 [Music] videos out in the fields where the skies are wide talking about a journey through the cosmic ride Einstein and Thorn they set the stage for a trip through time across the Space Age worm holes connect distant points in space traversable paths you a far off place no black holes pull no crushing weight just a cosmic tunnel to a distant gate Wormhole Stargates negative energy travel through the cosmos it's our destiny MH370 where did it go B Triple S through a wormhole but we're talking Wormhole Stargates negative energy travel through the cosmos it's our destiny MH 370 where did it go B and Triple 7 to a [Music] worm exotic matter negative energy the key to stabilize the 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