Hard Truths #6 - Chad from Investigate Earth - MH370, Pyramids, Conspiracies, and Spirituality

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hey Chad how's it going man how's it going brother hey good uh you having a good night man we are having a fantastic night we just got done with the podcast and started listening to your stuff oh did you yeah I figured it wasn't random that you were jumping and then texting me so uh what was the uh podcast tonight that you guys were doing well we were doing a little bit of spiritual stuff biblical stuff in relation to UFOs uaps and all that stuff so um yeah we actually had you know we're not very I mean I don't know we're kind of spiritual right I mean I kind of grew up in a religious household but we had someone that is very spiritual a Biblical scholar which I don't necessarily know that I believe in everything 100% I'm kind of you know neutral on that but we at least have these people on because we want to talk about their like de you know their their very devout beliefs um then just kind of mix it with a lot of the UFO UAP stuff and a lot of stuff we're talking about today I mean even the stuff you're talking about the how we can really harness the power of the world right now we're we're literally experiencing this right now and how does that relate to the spiritual realm that's kind of what we talked about a little bit tonight man yeah that's awesome I think that that's really where I'm trying to push the conversation forward is like how do you even move forward with a lot of this you know I've been very critical of a lot of people in the uip community just because I feel like you know if I look back TimeWise from when I was younger and I'm over 40 years old now it just feels like there's not much has been accomplished like sure I would say people are more aware for sure but you know we haven't nobody's shown any UFOs this stuff goes back to Roswell right it's like you know 100 years and uh we haven't got anything out there and I talked to these people that you know I've never thought I would talk to my whole life and um you know the way they talk about everything so casually about the science of it just feels like it's they're just like nobody's really even trying that hard honestly at least the people that are in the know that could get it out there you know so I'll be honest with the ash I um you know with the MH370 thing right you so let's talk a little bit about MH370 and especially about the debunkers right so the debunkers I think have come out loud and clear yeah U against you and and if you look at by the way these debunkers that come out against you these debunkers come out against anything and everything that could tell or at least um potentially prove an outside power or Force outside of our government yeah right so you could you could have two two versions of this but at the very least like um I won't even talk about names but there have been prominent people that that that's their main goal it's like how do we debunk this how do we how do we try to disprove that either technology or an interdimensional force can actually exist like we are seeing in today and so Ashton with the MH370 thing as part of your thought process is hey the United States government has this reverse engineered Tech or technology to where we have reverse engineered this we have this technology and then the other side of this topic which is the UFO UAP topic is like okay well if it isn't our technology then it is a spiritual realm or force that we is it's kind of a scary thing right so um what would be the reasons Ashton in your opinion let's let's go opposite of what your theory is for a second sure far as this is United States or adversary countries reverse engineered programs let's go opposite of that for a minute what would be the reason why government or um debunkers would want to debunk a spiritual realm potentially of inter dimensionality of this to your thought you ever thought about that yeah and I think from the debunker standpoint it probably doesn't change much because I think that from the debunker standpoint this is something I think I posted about too is that a lot of people are just fighting to keep the status quo right I think that we were just listening to Eric Weinstein as well in a space you know and he the first thing he says is I don't even know if UFOs are real and I'm going wow well that's I mean that's kind of hard to believe like there's definitely stuff out there that's anomalous I when we had the 2018 DOD Navy videos you know that were Declassified so um you know to that part I'm like okay I think that a lot of people just can't believe anything until the authority tells them right um but for the perspective of the people that are in the know that know the stuff is real that know there's uaps and let's just say again for the sake of argument they know they're aliens out there and that they're visiting us you know that's the part where I I want to talk to people understand their perspective the people that I've talked to um even as recently as this weekend you know I thought well it must be that it's a National Defense situation where uh you know this type the technology that they're going to be using is of national security purposes we want to you know make sure we're the only ones who have it Whoever has it is going to control the whole planet uh Etc but it may be even more simpler and More Human Than That from the same it may be the same thing that we see from the UFO Community where it's just like Middle School fighting that there's that same infighting that we see as well with these scientists right and they all have their own agendas you know and they're stealing each other's work like look at it kind of like this where if there is teleportation technology the public has no idea but there's people and scientists that know that it is possible so which of them is going to get the credit right yeah it's probably whichever one the like comes out with it publicly is allowed to come with out publicly first right so I think you end up getting a lot of this same Middle School drama that you get there now I'd like to hope that that's not as Petty as we are but that's kind of what I've been told behind the scenes so uh I don't know what do you what are your thoughts on it in general well well I I okay I'm G to ask you one question before I get into my thought and Theory um what do you think about C5 and uh Dr Steven's theory on that especially summoning these things I like our conversations CU almost like two podcast hosts are both going at one another I love it we're jockeying for who's going to be the one asking the questions um you know so my true opinion of that before all of this was that I thought this was some kind of scam or something like that but I was open-minded to it I actually watched Close Encounters of the fifth kind which is his documentary about it I want to say a year or two ago about it and I was never comfortable with this idea of charging people I don't know how much he charges I heard it was thousands of dollars but now I think well maybe that's all disinformation too maybe it's not really all about that um but I did like this idea that Consciousness may be linked to uh non-human intelligence or beings or something like that and I I'll just tell people right now is that I actually like kind of tried it out on my own right because I I just I don't know that the idea that like you can project your will or Consciousness on reality itself is something that I've always been interested in ever since I I was just actually talking about how I used to I played poker with um Tim Po but I used to play poker like semi-professionally about 15 years ago like when it got really big online and everything like that and I was really good at it even thought about quitting my job and there's definitely been times where I was sitting at the poker table where I wondered whether or not the collective conscious of the people at the table was impacting what cards came up and this is what I always think about when I would think about C5 is this idea of like can you project your emotions your feelings your Consciousness onto reality and even now I I certainly do not rule it out um but I you know I think that it takes more than just wanting something like there's some other element that perhaps I'm kind of missing related to it so I think that's how I would answer does that kind of get you're getting that no I get it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's that's good um the reason I asked a question about Stephen G and by the way um I see some people in the chat they're saying uh you know Dr Steven Grier is a grifter uh and and I've seen that by the way I've seen me too though so yeah I get I get that um but let's think for a minute like let's let's just say for example that Steven Greer is legit say that C5 he can summons these things um there's been by the way we've actually done a lot of pretty good research we've talked to probably 30 people we we actually did an episode on this um probably about a year ago we did an episode where we talked to a few people that have been to some of the C5 events and and I don't know what he charges I have NOA idea about any of that but what I can say is a lot of these people said it was pretty legit and I was like okay that's pretty crazy um because when I first heard it I was like yeah that sounds that sounds crazy um so some of what Stephen Greer's thoughts are based on C5 and and I guess some of his uh deep meditation and kind of how he summons these things and some other aspects of this is that if for example Steven Greer is correct let's just take for example that Steven Greer is right to where you can somehow have a theory or a methology to summons or have power and control over orbs or beings or things or energy um what does that do like say for example if the government knew that you had power and control over direct communication to an alternate power or force that was beyond their Force that was more powerful than they are right what does that create to them that creates a threat to their power right Y and so that's one of the things Dr stepen Greer has kind of pointed out in in past uh things but we've also heard other people say this like if this is a spiritual realm or being or or things that we are seeing you have a threat to the powers that be a lot of these people we've talked on our podcast many times about the world economic Forum the New World Order their their glob governance system that they really want to try to set up and their entire Mission there is to create a global governance to where they are all powerful Almighty and they are the gods and we've seen this by the way in biblical texts in the past to where even in Genesis and exodus um back back in biblical days whether or not you believe in the Bible or not doesn't matter if we're just talking about in historical text we saw um even the Jews that were Moses said hey we're going to lead you out of Egypt because they brought the Jew Jews in the Egypt uh in Egypt had all these Gods such as pharaoh and and some of these other ones but they were Kings but they were known as gods in Egypt and so as uh the Jews were being led out of Egypt away from those quotee unquote Gods um they thought they were Gods right they thought they were the powerful and much of the people underneath the Egyptian rule uh back in those days were slaves regardless of how you want to see it if you look back in those days even the Israelis that came in or the Israelites that came into Egypt they became slaves but their people in Egypt were slaves before that and it was all because of the power structure that the Egyptian kings um put into place I think we are very much back in a way of we have power structures and Kings whether we see it or realize or not that they believe they are the gods they are the almighty and they are all powerful and if you ever put into concept an actual uh you can say it's God you can say it's aliens you can say it's uaps you can say it's UFOs but if you ever put in into any um uh structure that there is a more powerful group of of beings over the powers that be in this world the worldly three-dimensional beings um they have a big problem with that because they cannot rule the people if you have another way out of them ring the people does that make any sense what I'm saying no it definitely does I mean because I think that way you're talking about you know this power hierarchy as well and that's what this technology kind of uh implies is that whoever controls this technology you have this whole control and I think this is probably why you're jumping in because I was sitting here talking about that you have the halves and the have knots right and it's to a point where the line is so blurred that normal people the Surfs the have knots whatever you want to call them right are never they're never going to catch up they're never going to believe that technology is even real it's like the perfect defense is that they just they don't believe it's real so you now have your power structure is not threatened in any way shape or form and if some other beings were going to come down and they were either delivered that information to everybody or reveal themselves and you're definitely challenging that power structure right um on a side note I I think that Dr Greer definitely has information that he was privileged uh on receiving before all this happened I thought that it was a situation where he got some information probably most of it was accurate maybe some of it wasn't and then he kind of ran with it now I look back especially after I was in the space with him a couple weeks ago and I think that like 90 to 99% of what he's talking about is probably real I have a hard time with beu from the Andromeda galaxy and the ambassadors and what have you of the alien races um but you know what I'm keeping an open mind on it I think that everything else he's talking about with the science and like this I haven't watched a documentary The Lost uh Century or whatever it is yet but I I already believe it like I think that we've this technology I think has been out there for decades and if we had access to it I think we'd be living in a different world even right now um and yeah I think it all probably goes back to what you're talking about is that it allows for the elites if you want to consider them that to maintain their power you know and even just between some of the conversations that we've been having even as of today like you see that same implication right I don't want to talk about on stream but um you know some of this stuff is real it's like man you just kind of get brought in and if you're somebody who's open-minded enough to believe this technolog is real it's a whole new world for you you know and the last thing I would say is when I was looking at the MH370 stuff one weird connection that came up was the 1 MDB scandal from 2015 where the uh I'm going to butcher the prime minister's name it's the one be after mahater and actually before mahater uh oh najib I think is what it is they found this bank account where he had $700 million in this bank account even my dad knew about it because my dad is uh worked in Singapore and he had his own business and he had a consult uh uh one of his I think I'm okay to talk about this he's retired now he had a contract where it was with the bank and there it was like he did D Disaster Recovery planning and so this is one of these emergency scenarios where're like we found this money what the hell do we do like how do we how do we like reveal this to people right and he was like brought into discuss it and I was digging into the case cuz the M M1 MDB because I kind of knew just from what the news was going on but like the guy that was The Whistleblower like put yourself in this perspective he's hanging out with people who have hundreds of millions of dollars that they are essentially just stealing from poor people and they're going and you know hookers and blow in the whole nine yards right going every nicest dinner possible and then he's got to determine whether or he's going to blow the whistle and when he Blows the Whistle they take everything from him he thinks he's safe in Thailand because it's next to Malaysia and it's a different country nope he gets arrested the the elites don't have they don't care about borders it's like the Batman movie borders don't stop them and they throw them in Thai prison where that's the last place in the world you guys want to go to prison is in Thai prison like there's one water bucket and 50 people in a 40ft square cell and you sleep on the floor in 50° Center 40° cenate heat like 110° you know just straight up hell right and imagine the dichotomy of one day you have hundreds of millions of potential dollars the next day you are literally broken a cell and living in a Cell for three years you know like man that's and that just goes to show you know how certain people live and we don't even see a lot of that in America but I lived in Singapore I went to Malaysia like Malaysia compared Singapore compared to Malaysia is like United States compared to Mexico and it's just straight up corrupt when you go there we drove to panang one year I remember which is actually where we're talking about the plane flying to um and just to give you a quick Side Story on this and we can go back to the other stuff is that when we were driving up there the first thing that happened the cops pulled us over and they just shook my dad down for like whatever money he had in his wallet that was like the very first thing we were on this like eight hour drive they pull us over like there's like kind of a language barrier and they're like just pointing at as wall and just he gives them like all the money in his wallet like I don't know $100 or something like that and then they just let us on our way and then we get to panang and like the first hotel we stayed at I'll never forget this I've never been in a building where I was more scared in my life it was tilted I was afraid to go up in the elevator and we get to the room and it's like you get in the room and it's like slanted and you're like feel like you're going to go out the balcony and fly off the edge and I'm like I'm not staying in this building like I'm just not staying in this building we are going somewhere else so just a little side story for you go ahead dude that's crazy I mean that that that is nuts um you have pyramids pulled up here by the way oh yeah I was just showing it because you we're going about ancient history and what happened yeah you're right I want to talk about that for a minute oh oh you want to talk about okay let's bring it back yeah I do want to talk about this because um you know Ashton on on our podcast the other night we talked about Robert shock now there are probably a lot of people here that don't know who Robert shock is Robert shock is a um he is a uh professor at Boston University Robert shock is uh alongside Graham Hancock even though I think Robert shock probably does a little more deep Dives in the ancient civilization Theory um as far as you know for example I told you on the on the podcast the other night when Robert shock and um and his team goes to Egypt to look at the pyramids yeah they Clos down the pyramids for his team for his people and you know we got invited by the way this past summer and they said hey do you want to come to Egypt in the pyramids with us and and we were like yeah we want to do it and then something happened at the very end we can not go which was so bad but um but they Clos down the pyramids Robert shock is one of those people he actually has a book which I will get right here is a signed book I got to figure out what the book is actually called but U well there's one myth of the cosmos and forgotten civilizations revised and extended edition but anyway um his theory on this is even the Spinx right for example was actually not a SP it was actually a female rather than a male lion um and and he thinks it was it it was because water erosion whatever but also the thought process on how did these pyramids get built what was the what was the power structure Behind these things so you could go biblical and say that hey maybe it's Nephilim these Giants that actually picked up rocks these 35- foot Giants I mean that sounds crazy but you know biblical terms you can kind of take that for example but then you could go the other example and say well these were Advanced civilizations far beyond probably even what we are today um I mean how many times do you see pyramids being built today um how many times and and if you look at our our very mediocre way of building structures today um we we we have cranes we have a lot of weird construction techniques we have a lot of this stuff but you look back at the pyramids man and not only did the pyramids were built with massive we're talking about some of these um uh I guess a lot of this was Granite uh rocks that were probably the size of uh 10 to to 20 houses in in length these things were put in place and not only were they put in place in you know specific ways but they were also aligned with certain astrological um uh what do you call astrological structures in in the sky yeah cosmology yeah and all that cosmology yeah and all this stuff what was the question is like how old are the pyramids I mean yeah and Beyond the pyramids I think the pyramids are probably older than we realized but I also think that the Earth also goes through recycling right I think we have probably been recycled three or four five six seven times we we know the Earth's probably at least multi-million or billions of years old um how many civilizations were around and how long were they around for that structure how and why did they why did they recycle what happened in the end did we did we destroy ourselves at the end of this either with our technology um or just our technology to be able to destroy ourselves and um what's your thoughts on this Ashton like have you ever thought about this especially in terms of imry 70 let's just go go there mhm just the technology we have looking at the ability to potentially you you say I believe these orbs are a product of our reverse engineering so this is the first step being able to disappear an airplane so what is the next step what if they can disappear an entire planet or civilization because they get pissed off this is human nature human nature is a very bad thing in in in a lot in more ways than one um typically if you look at Human Nature we do not have a kind heart overall um so how would you like do you think that potentially our advancements in in Civilization could have destroyed us in our past civilizations if you believe in past civilizations 100% And this is something that I've only been broaching I think it's I've been broaching this IDE idea of ancient history being pushed back longer than I've been doing the MH370 stuff um and when I watched ancient apocalypse with Graham Hancock I mean I found a lot of that stuff very compelling because despite the the nature and the name of the show he's really just doing anthropology and archaeology right and he's just he's doing stuff where like I like when people actually go out and do the work do the science right and he's doing it not just sitting there like talking about oh blah blah blah this is what the academics said no he's actually going there and doing it right and I look at structures like the pyramids and um I was actually on with Jimmy coretti he's somebody as well who I I appreciate because he throws ideas out there that people you know it's just it goes against the grain I just I like people like that that try to challenge the status quo right and I think he's one of the first influencer uh proponents of the idea that the pyramid's not a tomb which when you look at the structure of it it seems obvious it's not a tomb like it's it's clearly the way it's designed in the in the stuff inside the the pyramids there they're not designed to be a tomb it's clearly got some other purpose for it and what we see when we look at it here is what it's become after thousands of years of erosion right you know I think there was some images that I were showing where you can tell that like it wasn't just kind of rocks the way it is now they've tried to like you know uh REM uh um renovate it and all kinds of stuff as well it used to be very smooth and used to have a smooth surface to it like you said about the science related to it this is a situation where just because in some ways these civilizations were you know inferior to us they didn't have computers potentially that doesn't mean they didn't understand some of the mechanics of the universe better than we do now you know I think it's a very real scenario where they understood quantum mechanics uh perhaps even stuff like we would call anti-gravity better than we understand it here today you know um I also think Ashton by the way I I think that we talked about this on the podcast if science is if you go against the grain you are defeated and I feel like back in the uh pyramid days there were a lot of scientists right back in those days there were a lot of scientists that said hey we got to figure out how we do this I don't I know I I I have no idea why they created the pyramids or for what reason but um we do know at the very least science today is minuscule if if you go against the grain you're done we saw this with Co we saw this with many doctors coming against the official narrative or response to covid um they they got threatened to get their license pulled they got all of this stuff I think there's a lot of this today and I think we're seeing it on the medical scale when you look at Co but I think that's also what we're seeing with the MH370 thing I mean oh we have three orbs that are you know in Circ this aircraft and and this aircraft gets disappeared um but also we have to remember that you know during Co days I don't know if people realize this but DARPA which was heavily involved in Co whether people realize I mean you guys can look up the uh the Articles DARPA was involved in covid-19 pretty heavily um they were involved with uh Dr baric at University of North Carolina um as far as his uh I guess um research as far as the gain of function of uh of what was it the Corona virus into SARS Kobe 2 yeah we gota be careful just because we're on YouTube but yeah get you know you know where the line is no I get it yeah um I get that but anyway so you can look at those things and you can see that anyone that kind of pushed back on that right um anyone that pushed back on that they were they were ridiculed they had been threatened to have their medical license uh taken and this is no different by the way than what we're talking about today we're talking about if you push back on the physics aspect of what is possible and what is not if you push back on the civilization Theory as far as how old we are as civilization all of these things uh you will get pushed back and and I'm and and by the way I'm even talking about Robert shock which is a Boston University Professor he is one of the most cited archaeologist geologist and um and ancient civilization experts he is also one of those people that get pushed back um and he's got ridiculed in in his own University in Boston University um and I think what we're seeing here is is that we are in an I guess to your point just a second ago we got to be careful because we are on YouTube and you're right you are 100% correct um they have to control information because if they do not control information um then they lose the narrative because otherwise you want the truth right like is that not what Society wants like Society wants the truth Humanity wants the truth and and and and if you don't want the truth then you want a narrative and so what is it is it the truth you want or is it a narrative and an agenda and I think what we're seeing here is is that we want a narrative and in and and the agenda rather than truth yeah and yeah what I would say is this is not medical advice and uh somebody said in the chat that uh the covid-19 vaccine is safe and effective and works against minimizing the spread of covid-19 just want to make sure YouTube sensors got that absolutely and I think we've seen it too with uh Scott Jensen he is a former Senator and a doctor and he came out and just for the crime of investigating uh how many people were being uh labeled as covid deaths he got attacked they tried to take his license away I think they I was looking into him and I think they they tried like six different times um to take his license away because he was simply auditing the deaths and looking at the death certificates and uh we're not going to get too much into that but it goes to show you that anybody who threatens the narratives that are out there or the status quo just gets straight up attacked by people and I don't think those people even have to be paid or anything like that they are just doing it because they're being told by the TV and being told by their authorities that that is misinformation this is harming people Etc um now going back to some of the other stuff like DARPA you know what I'll say is that I'm like 100% sure there's even unclassified papers out there declassify papers that are into a lot of esoteric stuff we know that like the CIA was investigating stuff like remote viewing psychic stuff I've been making fun of Jack sarfati but I know for a fact that he was part of the CIA and he was you know in investigating a lot of that stuff so they take it seriously they take a lot of that stuff seriously and then they will go ahead and crap on it when people outside the you know that are not under their realm of sphere of control bring those types of theories forward that's the thing that's kind of scary is that they're out there doing expensive uh Research into all this stuff and then if anybody else says it then they'll just go and crap on them like it's not real like perfect example m370 stuff is like I had reached out to Jack sarfati about teleportation and to try to learn from him it work and you know he was pretty rude and dismissive of me and I was kind of rude back I'll just be honest Jack if you're out there you know we can make amends um but then like just a week ago or two weeks ago someone's linking to me his stuff and he's talking about teleportation's real I'm like what like why were you crapping on me I'm sitting here showing videos of teleportation you can't why would you not be aligned with me on that and it's because you know it's they have to there's it kind of goes back to that infighting they're willing to have one face and and where they know the stuff real but on the other side on the public side just go ahead and lie about it so they can maintain that control that's out there now two last things real quick are I was just looking at this picture of the pyramid this is not a tomb like looking at this like the passageways are angled like if this is a tomb you're going to have like a straight up passage you're going to have rooms right like you would imagine you would have rooms like it would be it makes sense for someone to walk into when you look at this this has like geometric and clear purpose whether or not we understand what that purpose is it's it's something Beyond just burying people right that's not what's going on in this pyramid here and then lastly what I would say is to your point about reset Theory absolutely in the back of my mind that's what I keep going back to is this ever ever since I discovered JFK's Moon speech where he talks about uh you know taking human civilization and and crunching it down to 50 years from the 50,000 years and he just starts by saying for the first 40 of those years so the first 40,000 years we know nothing about our history except for that at the end of it you know 10,000 years ago man had learned how to hunt animals and use their skins as as clothes like that's how far back 10,000 years is basically how far back we can look back at our history and look at how advanced and evolved we are as just human beings it's like this is there should be way more history like if I were to look at our civilization from the outside and just guess how long Human civilization's been out here I'm going to guess like over 100,000 years or more right and yet all we know is 10,000 years so from that perspective and to your point earlier we know that like stuff erods over time even the pyramids and I think they're probably older than what they say they are as well just really hard for me to believe that they're they're only a few thousand years old um and I agree with the Sphinx thing as well where like potentially it was like had a different face on it and it was carved out and and the water erosion around it as well doesn't really make a lot of sense consider it's in the middle of a desert so that's the thing that I think scares me if you just to wrap it up you know you take the stuff like Tucker Carlson's been saying about this idea of you know what he knows and what he's been told is dark it's scary right one of those possibilities is well what if we're in a prison planet and they're just going to reset us whenever they want whenever we get a little too smart a little too big for our britches right because your point this technology of teleporting a plane you just I think anybody who thinks about it logically it's like where what else can you do with that technology what else can you do when you see three orbs that are breaking the swinger Lim as Jeremy Reese was just saying earlier today on the on the stream um and it can create basically infinite energy or if we can even just suck the energy from the vacuum state of SpaceTime like this is free energy you're like okay well now I can start to blow up the whole planet pretty easily I have to do is scale this up a little bit and yeah so I I think that like Dr Greer says that the reason why he doesn't think that the the non-human intelligence are benevolent is because he says they could just destroy us anytime they want so absolutely yeah okay well I will say this I I didn't want to go here but we're gonna go here we're going here no this this is this is way safer than covid-19 so okay good that's that's what's I like my YouTube channel for now I don't want to have to switch over Rumble just yet yeah we don't want want to murder you on YouTube yet um by the way speaking of which before we get into that I will say that Spotify is so good at free speed um and and and I want to give them credit because we've been with Spotify for five years and by the way I I think that I think Joe Rogan going there and getting a contract probably helps that because they can't like censor other people and also let Joe Rogan say whatever he wants to at the same time so I I but I will say you know Spotify is not a US company so they you know they don't have to as of now abide by the same BS that you you know the United States abides by or what they want to push on us companies but what what I will say to your point here is um with the whole spiritual realm Tucker cross and all of this now we don't have to go religious but we can go a little bit in the realm of what happens when we die this this this is going to get somewhat deep but it's not going to get crazy deep we're not going to go you know nuts but what I will say is that I think that um and and that's one of the things when when ashon when you first came on our podcast and and and you're right by the way you came on our podcast and you said hey uh what I and and I and by the way you have done a ton of research by by this time you when you came on our podcast it was not like you had not done research you have you had been heavily invested in this before so it's not like we brought you on the podcast and and you had no idea what you were talking about um there were people there were listeners of ours that that said hey can you bring Ash on your podcast because he is saying some stuff about m370 that I think makes sense and some of these people by the way that that reach out to us uh we respected because they had reached out to us on other topics that they were usually right about um and and by the way some of these people which I think I reached out to Ashton before about these people some of these people were in the government um I will be honest we we have had government employees on our podcast like literal actual government employees now I can even say this because the reason I will say this because they said when they came on our podcast that you know hey I don't care if you say this even though they did not say we are we're allowed to say what What entity they were with but what I will say is that they were ahead of a major threeletterman3 in the United States government and they've been on our podcast a couple times and so um one of these that particular person by the way Ashton I don't if you even know this but that particular person reached out to us and that was one of the people when they said hey you need to look at this footage of MH370 and I want you to do a story on it I want you to follow this and this guy I won't say his name but if you guys listen to a podcast or whatever you can probably find who this guy is cuz we do on the podcast in this particular episode we say hey this guy is is is a part of the government he is um a big name in the government he has over over 3,000 agents and um and I even told him before he came on I said hey look man you don't have to even say your name by the way like don't say your name he's like I don't care if I say my name I was like okay that's fine because by the way when he says his name you can literally go look him up on on Google and see who he is uh but I'll let you guys figure that out um but regardless of that the spiritual realm like do we feel like that when we die that we are that we're going to see black right that I think that's I think that is something that people are scared of I think that's people I think that's a fear of ours I think that's something that also when you look at this UFO and UAP and alien and and God and all this stuff and you wrap all this in like I think until now with the UFO topic we there's a lot of people that only had faith that go on they only had faith it was like we have no evidence whatsoever they're interdimensional anything and by the way if you if you if you listen to and I I want to read something real quick because this is this is important I want be able to I want people to understand this and I'm not a Bible person at all but I I I literally just read this to on the podcast and the first thing I read I was like wow this is kind of crazy but if you if you think about what's going on today says Heaven out of this world the Helix nebula which is 690 Lightyear from Earth it looks like the Gateway right to a brighter world but the glow is actually from gases of a Dying star the heaven of scripture many say has nothing to do with the physical Universe there is no Galactic address heaven lies in the spiritual Dimension and it even says goodbye Flesh and Blood the end isn't near it's here it's a vision of the future the physical Dimension is gone is replaced by something that sounds a bit like a super physical Dimension blending The Best of Both Worlds physical and spiritual right so you hear that from the Bible and you're like okay then you look at like the UFO thing and what's going on today and you look at all these things that are you you're literally talking about um Tucker Carlson and and some of these whistleblowers that are coming out even even literally Declassified government documents and even classified government documents that that these people are saying hey there there is a realm of this that we know that is spiritual I actually think the government 100% believes that most of what we're seeing UFO and UAP is a spiritual realm it is a interdimensional realm and so the reason I bring this up is because Beyond or or sorry before we ever even thought about the disclosure of UFOs and uaps we only had Faith to depend on a potential afterlife now we are starting to see a little bit of evidence of of of of a potential other side right of a potential um realm outside of what we know that exists in our 3D dimensional realm now you can take that as as Jesus or God or Muslim or whatever it doesn't matter doesn't matter the religion it we're literally only talking about the physics or spiritual aspects of this and um and so when you look at this I think this is the most groundbreaking thing we can possibly take from this today and you can you can wrap yourselves in religion all around all of this we don't we none of us know but but one of the things that we do know is that we're trying our very best to figure out and can Cipher what we are seeing and hearing today and even with CERN um trying to look at these other dimensions with uh the the particle colliders where you're where you're literally colliding particles at light speed or or faster in some cases um and you're trying to see what that Dimension would be and you're trying to find those other particles and so the thing I want to say to people um that we don't always get to say on our our podcast because sometimes our podcasts are are are very concise and we got to we got to get it point out but what I want to say to people is that at the very least it doesn't matter if you're a God believer or Jesus believer or or if you're BLM or Hamas or Israel or whatever the point of all this is is that I think that what we are starting to uncover in 20124 and 2023 is that there is a possibility that we are not just who we think we are we are not just a physical being and structure of ourselves I think there is far beyond energy that encapsulates all of us and I think by the way what Ashton um points out a lot with the m370 thing the fact that if Ashton is right in terms of what the United States has been able to reverse engineer imagine what is beyond what the United States has been a able to reverse engineer and um and so I I think we have to I think we have to uh harness our lives and and but also we have to understand that um potentially there is something way more and way more structured and way more bevent than than what we are as a 3D dimensional physical body yeah um have you ever seen real quick have you ever seen Andy we's the egg have I shown that to you or sent you guys that if not I'm looking at it on the screen is that is that what you're showing no no no the egg so here I I'll pull it up um and I'm not going to play it just yet but I'll kind of spoil it uh for you here um now this short story and I don't want to play it because it'll also get me YouTube stried or whatever but um this is a story here where it's it's uh kind of about reincarnation is the reality of it now it's better if you kind of watch it yourselves and dig into it but the idea is early on this person dies and then they are reborn as somebody else and it's about okay well what does life mean then if that's the case right and the reason why I find it so compelling is that I'm sitting here I've been talking to uh royy Herbert which we were just on a space with him and Eric Weinstein actually and this idea that time itself is really a construct it's the fourth dimension but it's also something where you can I think I was talking to you actually about it as well where uh it's the only reason why we perceive it the way we do is because of our biology and because of the beings that we are but if after we die there's no reason why we couldn't be reincarnated say gask Khan you know from centuries ago and living essentially every life out there is just one person perhaps we are all the exact same being but because of uh physics we're all in our own local frame rate our own uh kind of little bubble reality in any given moment and that's how it's technically possible where we all could be the same person despite the fact that we may be interacting with oursel and the thing that's beautiful about this story that I'm going to kind of spoil is that it gets to this idea of every kindness that we do to someone else is a kindness that we're doing to ourselves every time we abuse or harass someone we're we're just abusing or harassing ourselves absolutely um I agree that real quick on a couple of the points you brought up um you know when you talked about the government agent who was willing to say their name or what have you I mean one thing that I think I've come to realize is that a lot of people aren't afraid in the government from because there is a lot of bureaucracy around it but also because nobody's going to believe anyway right because what we talked about is like some of this stuff is so out there that they know that like okay even if I were to just spill the beans it would just sound like I'm a crazy person mumbo jumbo right so from that perspective and they're so good at disinformation and throwing misinformation out there where we're already in my opinion in a post-truth world where people can't even understand what's real and what's not anymore um and that might be what kind of allows some of these people to come out and speak so so freely um because I've kind of wondered too like why are they able to speak so freely are they sewing disinformation and I don't think it really is a lot of time I think it's just a time where like even the government itself at this point doesn't even know how do we get this information now we've been lying for so long that nobody believes anything anyway right and we talked about even if aliens were to come down onto the front lawn and and say hi to Joe Biden or whatever like I think um you know Joe Rogan even talks about this is like the moment the government tells me aliens are real that's the moment I stop believing they're real right it's like damn that's a tough situation um and then there might be other aspects too before all the MH370 stuff and all the stuff I've learned about technology before then I was one of those people that thought that the reason why they would hide it is because religion would be threatened and that people that are religious wouldn't be able to reconcile it now I have the exact opposite opinion funny enough that I think the religion will adapt to it quicker than anybody else because the reality will mean that there is a construct that we live in and that if we then live in a construct it's the idea that there must be a creator for it which is very congruent with the idea of God and a Divine entity um but I think that the same issue the government has applies regardless of if it's the religious people or non-religious people that have a problem with it is that I think they're afraid that people will just kill themselves for a lack of a better word because of what we're talking about this idea of reincarnation that people will just think oh I'm just going to take the easy way out this is an avatar situation where our soul lives on and and personally that's what I think the situation is just for everybody who's watching what have you is that think they're afraid that a lot of people that don't have great circumstances will check out and this again goes back to this idea of the elites versus the non- elites the elites don't want everybody to check out because they're taking advantage of it all right they want the non the the the Poes the you know the the surf class they want them to stay the surf class stay working wage slaves and what have you um and just real quick the last thing I want to say is that this is just a personal story that I've had is that I've been pretty much unable to talk to my parents about about pretty much anything related to the casee um because they are what I would call CNN brains that they have you know my dad's been somebody that's read the New York Times probably every single day for the last 50 years right and he hasn't in my opinion uh come to realize that it's not like it was even 20 30 years ago where like you would go to the newspaper to get the truth right it's come to a point now where it's pretty much just propaganda that's being spread under control maybe it always was um but one thing that we have been able to connect on is he's always been a Buddhist pretty much his whole life and they believe in reincarnation and recently we sat down and I was like Hey Dad I want to talk to you about you know what do you think happens when you die and you know he told me well I'm a Buddhist blah blah blah I believe in reincarnation I said so do I you know um and I kind of told him I could just tell from the look in his face that he was kind of surprised by what I was telling him that and it was funny because I told him like I think we've arrived at the same end conclusion but from different perspectives like he came out from this conclusion of like he just always felt connected to it especially when he was even younger in his 20s um and he would travel the world and stuff like that and for me it's like I came at it from looking in the science of it like I look at the science and I go The Logical conclusion is that our body is a capsule that's holding our soul and perhaps well that's what this is all about go ahead absolutely no I agree no I I I agree with everything literally everything you're saying I mean we we said this on the podcast the other day we said you know our parents when you try to talk them about what's going on today they just cannot yeah bom it there's no way they cannot grasp what is going on I mean uh my mom I if I call her at 545 she's like hey I got uh 15 minutes before world news tonight or whatever it is comes on and and that is that is her world view what whatever that World News Tonight comes on and says that is what she believes nothing outside of that by the way nothing and then by the way I saw someone that said I was trying to cross reference like what he was saying who was this guy that was on our podcast we're talking about I will say that it the the episode where we had the guy on that is uh the government employee is the Israel war with Palestine and Hamas World War I breakdown with rashed r a s he e e d so you guys can go uh check out what he says there but I actually want to bring on rashed um to a deeper episode because me and Rashid talked before this episode actually me and Rashid talked uh for probably an hour and a half um now Rashid is in in in his position um he is in a he is in a high up position but he was in in my opinion I guess in weird other positions before the position he has now so he was in positions in the military like high up military almost scop type stuff uh before he got in the position he is in now and so when we started talking about the uh the virus right we won't go into that but um when we started talking about that and and and we were talking on a personal level he was talking about the scop aspect right of he was like man you know that whole realm that whole three years was a it was like everything I had ever learned or knew it was like I ripped out a page from our book that we were trained on and and so when he got kind of deep in that I was like Wow and although we were not talking about that with our podcast that we brought him on for I do want to bring him on um in that capacity I I I don't know that he can do that right in his position necessarily but um but it is very interesting I I think I think we're living in a world today that um people are looking desperately for answers right I mean there people are desperate for answers to try to figure out what in the hell is going on I think we're all um I think if anything as much as we are divided we are united in realizing that something is not right like there is there is a lot of things that are not right about the world right now and um and and I I think I think if I had a microphone to the entire world if I had if if I had one microphone to the entire world and by the way our podcast over five years we are so blessed to be able to to reach as many people as we do and I'm so thankful for that I I literally wake up every single day I wake up to that is my purpose and I've never known my purpose I used to um I used to feel like my purpose which I still do marketing I still do stuff like that but I was always chasing a I was always chasing money right I was chasing money a way to survive but I'm telling you guys that are listening right now when you find your purpose then nothing else matters and when you find your purpose money will come if it if it's meant to come it'll come but but it it'll support you your purpose will support you if you're passionate I gu I guess if you're passionate enough about it um your support will come and our podcast is is our passion it is our purpose and um and I'm just saying that I think now people like you Ashton uh people like podcasts like Joe Rogan or whoever people that are really speaking the truth no matter who it is um I think those people are the most uh instrumental people in society and future today because when they take that away cuz that is my biggest fear by the way for those that want to listen like what is my biggest fear in my life every single day take my microphone away like take take my ability to speak the truth or at least speak my opinion to people to verify it for themselves that is my biggest fear and um and and I think they're desperately trying to do that right now and and and if if you guys can imagine a world right now to where as bad as it is right now take what take away everything that is against their narrative take away Ashton take away me take away Joe Rogan take away all these people and all you hear all you hear is the government's message think about think about how your world would be think about how depressed you might be right now even given all the propaganda that is being spit in our face on a daily basis but then take away every dissenting voice from that as well think about how depressed you would be because you're in North Korea I we're close to that by the way I feel like we're close to North Korea I mean I I don't I don't know how far we're how far out we are from that but I just feel like we're not as far as you think and um and that's that's a very scary thing and so so Ashton with your mh70 thing I look people can say MH370 in the videos and the in the satellite videos or or you know there's going to be people say well that's BS there's going to be people that say that you know hey I believe this but at the very least I know the Ashton 100% believes us and and by the way based on people that we've talked to and even the guy I'm just I literally just talked about the government employee that said he was one of the guys that said uh check out Ashton check out his videos you need to cover this now I don't know what that means by the way Ashton I have no idea I think I've kind of told you about this but yeah I don't I don't know what that means I don't know I don't know if he knows something that that we don't know he he would probably never say it I don't know um but take away all of that what what do you have left what do you have left if you if you have no dissenting voice in any topic period what do you have you have dystopia tyrannical North Korea or even worse Reddit no that'sit you have Reddit mods you get yeah and I there's another topic that I'm afraid to talk about on the podcast but what I'll say is that I took a chance and I I made a comment on the news subreddit on a particular thing related to the date of yesterday um about somebody who died on that day and not not only did I just get downvoted and it was just basically saying that we should not uh glorify death or people that are killed um not only and there was a lot of comments that were glorifying death which should be against social media rules but none of them were being you know moderated against not only did I get moderated I got permanently banned permanently banned from one single message on this particular subreddit about news and I think it goes to the point that you just mentioned which is that when you remove all dissenting opinion what's left is you get not just an echo chamber but a literal brainwashing machine and it leads these people that live their lives from those particular social media platforms to not realize like what normal people think and what they believe and what have you and if you think about some of the podcasts that I've been on that were uh very hostile you know it's that's that's what I call the Reddit brain where they don't even know what real people believe they think that they're going to look like Heroes for trying to chop me down or whatever right and then they find out that real people are like looking at them going what why are you such a douche like what how could you possibly be so close-minded and stuff like that right um and you're right like the what the government is doing is they're taking away people's microphones they're taking away people's views and that is what reinforces that Echo chamber and this is why even when you go to Reddit and you go to like the Joe Rogan subreddit it's like 100% against him I was talking to Jimmy corsetti about this Jimmy coretti got banned from that subreddit he was like one of the only guests who's actually been banned from The Joe Rogan uh subreddit for like just trying to comments about it because everybody's just trying to rail on him and it's like man just think about the emotional and mental damage that's doing to like a whole generation of people that are out there um and that's why I think that it's so important that we do have free speech is that we do have the capability to speak publicly and open openly and if we're if people don't want that then I think we have to get rid of anonymity on the internet and I think that we have to do away with stuff like section 230 protections because if uh either everybody gets to free speak freely or nobody does is kind of my opinion and I'm fine with either way we want to go with it right because if we then get rid of social media and say okay we're not going to have it then people have to force to have interactions in person right and they have to try a different route of doing it I prefer if everybody can just speak freely um but yeah I so I 100% agree I think that that's what's been going on especially in the last few years this is what I personally don't think my political opinions have changed at all I think that I'm still the same person politically that I always was I've always believed that your uh your rights end where mine begin and then I think that's something that if everybody were live by those rules it establishes pretty clear guidelines for what is against the law and what isn't against the law in the United States of America I think that we have this Overton window where the politics has just shifted and it's shifted because of what you just mentioned is that only certain views are tolerated and there isn't anymore this idea of equal justice um the last story that I'll bring up here is related to somebody that I have come to uh find to be I mean not like necessarily A you know like my best friend but I somebody that I've come to respect which is Jake Chanley um you know he has been vilified in the media he went to prison Insurrection he went to prison and you know I told somebody at a dinner the other night I'm not going to say who it was or anything like that that oh I know that guy like I've been hanging out with him turns out he's not at all what the media tried to make him out to be he's like the nicest guy I've ever met I could never imagine this guy ever hurting anybody in ever he's way nicer than I am even and they were like I wish he would stay in prison and I'm like man this is like even people that are really smart really intelligent people well read people people that have Highly Educated everybody's susceptible to the propaganda and the brainwashing and that kind of idea of if you remove people's microphones then people start to cohere towards these peer-reviewed approved beliefs and I just kind of said I didn't want to harp on it too much but I said I think if you to listen to talk to the guy you might be surprised at what he really believes he's running as an independent he's not raising money he wants term limits on people in Congress it's like I think you'd find you might have a lot in common with them at the end of the day now yes is he consider himself a shaman have a lot of spiritualistic beliefs sure but that's not anything make somebody a bad person you know so just some thoughts I mean I I I feel like that um Chanley is a I I feel like they made him out to be a subjective um insurrectionist right I mean this is what they wanted to do they wanted to use this image and and what he stood for even though he didn't stand for that but that's what they wanted to use him for um and and listen I mean the reality of this is like j6 or we won't go too deep into this but you know there were a lot of people in in in 2020 that felt like that there was a lot of weird stuff that happened right at the very least um and you know what happened with the j6 and and all that stuff I I I do feel like I I just watched by the way did you watch the the Alex Jones um oh my God live feed debate last night did you watch any of that with the I saw a clip with was it oh was not the one with Destiny was that a different one yeah that one yeah that's the same one I I I didn't watch it all but you know he's another person that we're really bring the line it's going to give me cancelled here today but um no he's another person too where when I went on his show um I had a lot of people even my own Discord saying don't talk to this guy right because of the stuff around the lawsuit that he had happened right and the Sandy Hook stuff and I even myself like you know coming from where I used to be I'm like oh you know do I really want to go there with this but this isn't the kind of case where you can really be pick and choose who you go talk to right it turns out we had one of the best interviews of any of them with him right he even said that this was one of the most mindblowing interviews he had ever had I'm going this the same guy oh my God I'm literally just thinking about this this was the same dude yeah so he was the guy on Alex Jones Last Night Live the debate was this the same dude oh no uh so you mean Destiny or who are we talking about yeah cuz Alex Jones debated Destiny I think yesterday okay okay and it was about a lot of the topics that we were just talking about okay um and stuff like that and I think that's where that whole thread that I was reading or whatever came from related to that but is it interesting that like okay so but you agreed with this guy on your topic right um I mean Alex Jones no Destiny no I have Destiny I've never talked to so little side story though Destiny and I used to play Starcraft against each other like 20 years ago and that's how he ended up getting big was he was one of the first like video game streamers um and now obviously he's morphed into a whole like personality and what have you related to it but he was known as like people hated him because he was super toxic but now I'll tell you the truth is I was pretty toxic back then too so we would have like you know little arguments in the chat I don't know if he would even remember a lot of this but um maybe if I told him my handle name he might he might remember uh and and I you know I'd never got into all that streaming stuff like that so that's kind the different perspectives and I don't think I would agree with him on very much honestly anymore which is interesting because I used to think that I was left of where he was at from a political perspective and now if you I were to talk everybody would say I'm to the right of where he's at um so it's just interesting how that stuff changes even though you're probably middle yeah yeah I mean I'm definitely middle I think in middle of the road in general but I don't know a lot of people think that they are so that's aside the point though no I agree that um but yeah I I just I guess um I'm not going to stay on here too long we had a podcast tonight I I just want to point out that um I'm very proud of you Ashton I I and we and and we've said this on the podcast before um we brought you on I think you've done an amazing job I think that we have to have people like you um come out and talk about this stuff because and not just talk about this stuff I mean we can do podcast and and by the way when you do a podcast where you're constantly talking about different subjects it's hard it's hard because you know you have to try your very best to understand and acknowledge everything surrounding what you're talking about the very best you possibly can and that's given a like two-day scale of time right and and so so you should of of all people should know that you know hey um how long have you been doing m370 I mean it's been a while it's been six month months it's not even that long surprisingly and how much have you dove into to like the physics the science the engineering all of the stuff of that that that is that is a lot of stuff to dive into and and so at the very least um when I see naysayers of people that literally have zero clue in any aspect of what they're even talking about they they they say oh this is this or this is that and this is this dude you haven't done any research whatsoever I maybe you've done maybe you looked up some stuff on Google right um but the amount that you have thrown yourself into uh the physics and and and everything not even just the physics but you know just the uh uh the ability of the United States government the Spy satellites the drones the the aircraft how the I mean what the you know what what a what a um um I guess you can say a HUD would look like as far as a a drone um how this how this whole thing works Works Nobody Does that I mean and and the people that do do that can understand on a deeper level more so than other people and so you're obviously going to get get people that say well this is this is crazy it's ridiculous yeah um and and I watched your uh Tim poool interview which by the way I'm not going to say anything bad about timpool I I I actually think he was very respectful yeah um he um I think he did I think he did a good job by being respectful but he also had his own opinions and um based on you know things that he had um I don't know talked about before whatever the case is uh but at the very least I I think you handled yourself well um when I was when I was listening to his standpoint on the videos I feel like from my perspective I feel like he was um I feel like and I and by the way I'm saying this respectfully yeah um I feel like he was uneducated to the terms and the level of what we are talking about with these videos with MH370 because if if if anyone has followed you in your research and all this stuff with MH370 videos you understand there is a lot more involved than just oh I can do that in Unreal Engine in 10 minutes because it's not the way that works yeah just go ahead finish your thought sorry sir no sorry I mean it's just not the way it works because I've done in Unreal Engine five I I know that pretty pretty well well um but it's not going to look like that it's it's not the same it's not the same thing it's not how that works um and so I I I heard his point of view I got it he wasn't he wasn't saying it by the way in like an [ __ ] way um but he was just saying like hey here's what I think and by the way I felt like you did a good job saying well but look here's the reasons why this is not necessarily as easy or or as easy as you think um I just think that 2024 for everybody listening it's going to be a [ __ ] show I want everybody to be prepared because um this year is going to be crazy uh we have election year um we have in my opinion I think we have a turning point in America I think we have a point to where we're about to see whether we are a um whether we have a democracy or whether we don't you know I know the Democrats are using that word a lot right now but we're to find out whether we do actually have a democracy or not um there is some speculation by the way this is I can break this a little bit on your stuff um just based on a couple of things I've heard but I think Joe Biden is about to be subsequently pulling out of the 2024 election within the next few days um I have heard that from some sources and so so what does that mean well we don't know but uh well I know I was telling my brother two years ago two years ago I said I hope he's ready to vote for Gavin Nome because that's what it's gonna be there's no it wasn't a surprise that Gavin Newsome was going on a world tour guys and I'm gonna break that here right now just in case everybody we end up telling the truth the future here you can you know take this and you can post this and say at Chad nashton on random stream called it wouldn't surprise me at all I said two years ago uh to my brother over Christmas um that get ready for it you know that's what's going to end up happening cuz but if but if you're worried about if you're worried okay so if if you're one of those people that are worried about like hey de say that you're like not Democrat you're a Republican or or libertarian or whatever say that you're one of those people who is your biggest threat to run it's going to be Michelle Obama I'm just going to go and tell you that that that is that is the Trojan Horse for the Democratic party and Gavin Newsome can come run I don't think he will win against Trump probably regardless of whether you love or hate Trump I I don't think Gavin Newsome win I mean you look at California look at you look at what California I mean just look at California I'm I voted for Gavin Newsome when I was living in California then I voted to recall him so yeah I think that he's got a lot of baggage that comes with him I think uh and that was the reason when I was actually campaigning to I was out there collecting signatures for several months I was uh I guess you could say in between jobs at the time and I was out there collecting signatures of real people and I said the reason why we're doing this is because Gavin Newsome is going to try to run for president and I want there to be a blemish when he tries because of all the stuff that he was doing to the state at the time anyway by the way someone said in your chat Kennedy what do you think about Kennedy by the way yeah I I like um RFK a lot honestly you know I would vote for him for sure I think that the reality is the Democrats are never going to let him be the guy um just like they didn't let Bernie be the guy you know back uh however many boy almost 8 years ago now um because it's a selection process right and because he's outspoken and says what he wants to say and because of his stance on covid and the shots Etc like I think there's no chance to let him be the guy um and then just from a perspective of it's kind of a petty perspective but I think that his voice stuff gets in the way as well sadly I know it's disgusting to say that but when you're looking at like presidential stuff a lot of it's It's a popularity contest man it's not you know so every little thing matters and these are some of the things why people like Trump cuz he just speaks off the cuff and he's a guy that people can connect to Etc uh you know with RFK he's like he kind of stutters a little bit and this this is you know as much as it sucks to say it you know it it ends up being a strike against him but everything he says is in my opinion on the money yeah and and even uh Vivic I mean I think like I really like Vivic um but you know know I don't think they're going to let him be the nominee either I mean you you could probably see a trump Vivic ticket but I see a trump Carlson ticket person but real quick what I want to say is point before I forget you were talking about because this is a really important one about the case is that a lot of the people that I go on and I talk to on their podcast they don't do their homework at all right and that's why they get to what you just mentioned where they say oh I could have create that in you know an hour in the Unreal Engine which of course pool cannot do that right not even you look at the requirs and evidence this is why I ended up on that podcast talking through the requirements which I don't always talk through on every podcast it just kind of depends on if people start to push back on that I go okay are you sure because here's the list of stuff you'd have to know right um just to kind of push back on that but like you go through and you look at all the case and the evidence and this is why like on the podcast I mentioned like well what if these things are fake how come they tell the story of what happened in the plane better than any other story today by wide margin use more evidence than anything else and all you have to do the only thing you have to do is throw out these IMAP pings and if you throw out those IMAP pings this is by far definitely what happened to the plane right and that's that's the difference between a coverup and you know this this narrative that's out there but going back to the politics stuff which I'm happy to talk about for a few minutes as well is like my opinion of Vivic is there's something off about him right from the beginning I felt like he's a little too produced too polished he's also kind of young I mean I love everything he's saying right and this is just me from a perception perspective right it feels like he's also kind of been selected is the reality that's what it feels like to me versus you look at somebody like Trump and I'll be honest with everybody else I'm not like a huge Trump supporter in any way shape or form um but he comes off as completely honest he says what he thinks right when I look at Vivic it's like I feel like everything he's saying is he's looking at a a sheet that says here's all the things I'm supposed to say right and somebody even caught him on the conspiracy Reddit I was looking at yesterday or two days ago and uh they even caught him where back in you know right after the January 6 event he was saying how he was this is horrible blah blah blah and then yesterday he was saying something about oh you know in completely opposite vein right like how it was a detriment it's like he's like kind of flowing with the wind or you know flip-flopping and and blowing With the Wind of that case so um that's my concern with him is that I want to know if he's really genuine about everything he says it it just feels like he's just saying the right thing and okay you maybe that's fine so that's just my opinion oh unpopular opinion by the way someone said in your chat they said um let's see what they say they said well well there's one person that said magot 2024 but uh someone said Vivic if elected watch him change his tune ASAP that's what I'm concerned about y yeah and and by the way I think that's also Nikki Haley like Nikki Haley by the way I don't I don't know if anyone knows this but isn't shef she was our governor uh where where my wife Sher and I live where where we host our podcast she was our governor um Nikki Alia was our South Carolina governor didn't love her as Governor but I mean I thought we were you know she was all right but Trump came out and said hey by the way just uh wait and see how fast she turns against you like she did me and that was a great comment because you know Nikki Haley was uh you know one of one of his girls in in in his administration and as soon as everyone went against Trump you know she turned against him um here's unpopular opinion though and I'll just say this and I'm not going to say it's to you banned or anything else but I will say is that I don't think it matters who we're going to vote for in 2024 yeah I don't I don't I really don't think so I think we are past that I don't think it ever matters in my opinion man and here's I I think it's beyond I think it's beyond even what you're saying I think it's beyond like I think there is a massive system setup right now to where it does not matter at all whatsoever yeah I I think that they have a potential system that is in place that we you know we don't have a there there is no look I I I say this on the podcast and this just my opinion um just a facts um but I say that there will never be a pro-american Republican president office ever again so yeah you can take it from what it's worth yeah it doesn't surprise me and since we're just you know throwing it out there like I probably would uh vote for Trump in a heartbeat if he had fired Anthony fouchy if he had done that I think now looking back I say I think that in my opinion is somebody just looking at the outside in that was probably his biggest blunder was not doing that um I think that he disenfranchised himself with a lot of people that are probably now on like the RFK band wagon just to be honest I agree um and yeah if he had done that I think I'd be all in and but reality is my personal opinion is I think Trump's going to win no matter what I think that he beats anybody out there just because one thing I learned from the Obama era real quick um and uh you know I voted for Obama I'll say just out there I did too actually is that it's a lot about like what your momentum is right like you've got this momentum if you can really like pull people and when you see Trump's rallies like it's like wow you know he's got he pulls people um and that's something that I've always felt as a powerful aspect of politics even in in J in companies as well like I even think that that existed with like Tesla where the reason why I would tell people invest in Tesla and uh early mid uh you know 2000 2010 was like people just want it to be successful right and when you want something to be successful it ends up kind of like you said like when you were talking about you know if you say Your Truth and you follow it you will be successful it's that same kind of idea that's out there and if you come out there and you lie or you're deceptive or whatever people don't resonate with it I think that applies to all aspects of Life yeah it's it's weird I I I think that most people you know and it goes back to this like I think most people want aliens to come invade because of literally because of our our choices we have like most people are just saying look look how screwed up our government is like if come invade like what is the worst case scenario I'm rooting for Alien Invasion honestly at this point although I think it would be a big scop but yeah I'm still rooting for it you know man I wish those Shadow aliens were real and they just they were invading I'd be sitting there go yes Shadow aliens take over let's end this but do but do you realize the psychological aspect of that like the aliens thing do do you realize that the psychological aspect I really believe it's because of how screwed our actual people are like people are looking for a savior of some kind like that they're they're literally looking for like the Miami thing which by the way we still don't know what the deal is 100% with the Miami thing we don't I mean I we had some Miami officers that listen to our our podcast and and by the way this guy I can read the message to you if you want me to but he sent us a message and said hey we have some guys that um they want to talk to you about the uh about the Miami thing yeah um and I I have not got back I've not heard back from that but regardless people are desperate like they are they like isn't it sad when people are more desperate for aliens to come invade than they are our Administration in our government oh definitely yeah and I mean I've looked into this stuff now and I'm pretty off the Miami bandwagon stuff I was coming back on to it for a minute but I'm I'm like 99.9% sure now that people were just making up these stories now because of the you know because they saw oh Ashton got 10 million views and keemstar got 10 million views now they just kind of want to ride the the coattails of it but um yeah I definitely think that there's this idea that you know people just want change right and this even goes again back to Obama back in 2008 it's like that's what he was running on you know hoping change this is why also I think that um generally you find there's a flip back and forth between the parties on different election years we go the Democrat Republican Democrat Republican because everybody just wants change and then I'm old enough to realize we never get change right and this is why I'm just kind of disenfranchised with the system in general is that we always get a new person in there they never have any significant change to the part the politics to the government structure or anything else related to it um and that's why I've kind of just come to this own personal opinion that like it's really more of a selection process and nothing's really going to ever get done there so you know personally what do you feel like is the Hope for the people what do you feel like is the Hope for the people yeah I mean the hope for the people in general to me is the technology so this is I was going to do a space and a stream about what does disclosure mean to people and I wanted just people to come in and tell me what they think disclosure means you know because I think that everybody looks at it differently you got the people that want to clap those alien cheeks you've got the people that want to go fly to another uh solar system right and they just want to get the hell out of here kind of point before to me I look at disclosure and to me it's the technology it's the ability to change the circumstances of billions people on this planet um to me the things that I've been passionate about are helping people and by helping people I mean not having children go to bed hungry um not having there be homeless people with nothing on the streets because I personally believe that living on the streets has a mental impact on people uh a negative one and with this technology even with just room temperature superc conductivity we can just completely change the circumstances of the whole face of the planet pretty much and then that's just the beginning right I mean talking about flying cars and be able to have computers they're 10 a thousand times more powerful than we have right now being able to teleport different places you know um it's it becomes like Star Trek it really just becomes like Star Trek at that point by the way Ash I think I think that you're going to be one of those guys in in our time and for those listeners that are listening right now I'm telling you Ashton's going to be one of these dudes whether you realize it now or not he is going to be one of these guys I don't even want to say why or why I think that but I'm just telling you he's going to be one of these guys and you got to have these you got to have these people Ashton is an everyday uh whatever the hell he does I don't even know EXA whatever Ashton does it doesn't matter Ashton is going to be one of these guys I know Ashton on a pretty good personal level we we text and talk quite a bit and uh I'm just saying that ashen's potentially going to be one of these people that changed the course of our future and Humanity um we have to have people like this and and that's why um if we don't have people like this that tries to pave A New Path or tries to go against a narrative if we don't ever go against the narrative and pave A New Path we're never going to know anything different anything new we're never going to we're just going to settle for what it is is that the government and the the the elites say that we are allowed to know or or believe um and and it's going to be a hard battle by the way it's going to be it is going to be a a very hard battle for those people that go against the grain um but I believe in you Ashton I really do believe in you by the way and and I believe you're smart enough to to make those changes to make those advancements in in our fure future I think we have people and literally I would even maybe compare you to like an Elon Musk even though Elon Musk obviously he's got rockets and Tesla and all this [ __ ] but but I think you can I think you can be that right and I and I think um but you can be that in a different way um and so when people you know even when people look at step Greer you know he's a gter he's this you you have to not just necessarily um discredit him as a grifter you have to look and listen to what he has to say you have to take that into your Consciousness and then you have to apply that to everything else that you know and listen to and here um there there are some people that may not be completely right I mean no one's perfect right but there are people that you can take all of these different aspects and you can apply that to all of these different theories and things and I think that we can really Advance because in my opinion I think Ashton will agree with me on this um we we cannot no longer depend on the government in the United States or any world entity to advance Us in Civilization we are at a cusp of advancing ourselves as Independents as people that that get together we we start understanding learning from each other and that's how we really Advance each other and our biggest battle is the government trying to stop that from happening and Ashton I think you know what I'm talking about when I'm saying that um but I'm just saying that I think that that is that is what we have to do um and so to save Humanity how do we save Humanity we have to save Humanity with ourselves we have to we have to connect with each other and we have to figure out ways like if if Government wants to uh lock off scientists from figuring out reverse engineering or this or that they want to you know compartmentalize everything we have to open up all of that um in our Independent Media in our independent um conversations in our independent science um that's how we changed the world and I think that uh I think the Ashton M 370 thing um I think that is a huge first step and I also think that's maybe why there's so much backlash so I wanted to point that out as I I think that I think that one day people are going to look back on this and and and everything you're trying to learn and understand stand Even in our personal conversations by the way mhm um I think that's I think that's going to be huge I think 10 years from now 15 years from now um people don't necessarily understand it right now and I think that maybe you will release some information that you have been learning in the background outside of the public realm um but I but I think that people are going to understand that like it is us that determines our future it it is not it is not the the government it is not the powers at be it is us who determines where we go from here because if we Depend and only let the government tell us where we go we go nowhere and and I think if you look back by the way at history uh it was the people that went against the grain that actually made the biggest changes and the biggest Staples in our history and in our future now yeah and I that's I'm very proud of you thank you very much sir thank you Chad I love you guys so much um and I think that you just said some really nice words um you know one thing I would say I get reminded of a lot um a lot of people have said stuff about me that I think is inaccurate but one of the things that I guess I find a little bit offensive is this idea that like I'm full of myself I would say that you know that's definitely not the case I think that a lot of times when people say stuff that people don't want to hear they have this idea that oh that person must be narcissist or whatever but um I think that kim.com told me one thing before he started kind of retweeting all my stuff and boosting uh the message a lot was you know stay humble when you you know make it or whatever and I told them I'm never going to change there's nothing that's going to change me I'm I'm I'm old enough at this point where like you know who I am is pretty solidified and even if I were even if I were to become president of the United States even if I were to become an Elon Musk with billions of dollars it wouldn't change who I am at all I would still be trying to seek the same exact things as I am as this person you see in front of you here today and this is why I started MH370 X is that it's about connecting people just what you talked about and we've been talking about politics and stuff that I think is is somewhat divisive of course but the reality is the people that been following this case are of multiple political Persuasions we have people that come from workingclass backgrounds people that come from you know white collar backgrounds people that are very educated people that uh don't have lots of education but we all have the same common purpose and same common goal right is that we are looking at the science to figure out and drive our future forward and how are we doing it we're not doing it through mainstream media channels I've never been on TV never once right I'm just going on alternative media talking to real people and like you said it's you know when they take away your microphone well we create our own Avenue for it and I'll just throw a quick uh thank you to Elon Musk again even though my personal belief is that he's been getting attacked because he took away one of the government's propaganda tools which was Twitter and once he took that away he gave power back to the people and he gave power back to people like us and you know I've been using that because I think that this is one of the last avenues that we really have free speech where we can hear real people we don't always have to agree with everything everybody's saying and we're going to see stuff that we don't like to hear that's out there but that's what free speech is all about it's not just all people you agree with all the time right absolutely so I agree I agree Ashton um but listen I I think 2024 is going to be a good year for you I I believe that and and uh by the way there's someone in the chat says she's a cougar Ashton so I'm just saying I appreciate that uh keemstar was joking around that I made a joke about one of the the girls that was or ladies let's say women that was mentioning the uh um mentioned the aliens in Miami thing he's like oh we got to get you set up in a space because Ashton's thirsty out there and I just started laughing I love keemstar he just cracks me up man oh he's he's funny he's by the way keemstar has been around for a very long time he he used to commentate all of the YouTube stuff so Logan Paul Paul everything all the drama in YouTube he was huge in there and it's it's kind of funny because we start seeing him now in the UFO space he's trying to he's trying to transition into a YouTube uh news guy now he transition to a UFO guy um which is kind of interesting but um but either way uh yeah so that's all I have to say Ashen I appreciate you any final thoughts on this we had a little impromptu uh hard truths here today uh Chad I think it was a good one I may have to edit this and post it up as an official hard truth well the the final thoughts I have for everybody is that um look here's the deal we're in 2024 guys and at the end of the day um we have to realize our surroundings we have to look at every every single thing we see um and and I think that we have a opportunity right now I think we have an opportunity to um really harness the information we are giving because I think that in my opinion um probably within six to eight months and I hope I'm wrong by the way by this but I'm saying within 6 to8 months we may not no longer have the opportunity to harness the information we are given right now like do you ever do you ever think like when you are healthy for example and you take for granted your healthiness you take for granted your ability to walk to your car to go to the grocery store to go for a walk to go for a run to go do all these things right you take for granted that but but say that you get cancer or say that you get some disease or say that you break your leg or or or or or you even lose your leg and then all of the sudden you're in bed you cannot move you cannot you cannot function normally as a human being anymore and yet just the day before all of this happened you were able to function completely fine but you took for granted that you didn't do all these things that you could have done you didn't go for a walk you didn't you didn't uh horness these abilities that you have as a human being there's a normal functioning human being with no health problems but one day it comes along that you no longer have those abilities to do that what we're seeing right now guys what we're seeing in the podcast with our podc with with with Ashton's platform his ability to speak his ability to get out his thoughts and his opinions and his evidence um along with our podcast along with this exact stream right now um these are things that are like our health and I understand that you guys are listening to this right now and you're like hey man we're we're harnessing this even though you don't realize you are but you you are getting a a taste of Freedom this is a taste of Freedom hearing a conversation hearing discourse hearing things hearing people will talk about things that are not necessarily um granted in the in the realm of the agenda against uh in my opinion by the way against a globalist or or for the globalist or New World Order um you have to understand that that can be taken away very fast and I and by the way I feel like it is going to be yeah I feel like regardless of how we see this I think that our ability to do what we're doing right now is no longer going to be able to done within six to eight months maybe a year maybe I'll give it a year and I hope oh yeah land your point sorry no I'm sorry I'm I'm just saying I hope I'm wrong yeah and so I just want you guys to understand that like your fight is for information and and you guys and we say this all the time on our podcast you gotta fight man you you got to tell everyone you know like our biggest threat to society and humanity is information um and and if we lose that we lose everything we lose medical Freedom we lose freedom in general we lose uh everything that we ever have known as human beings as being just be able you know just to be able to discourse with other human beings we've already lost a lot of that by the way our last stance here is communication over the internet but once they control the internet then we lose control over our conversation they've already they've already basically stopped human communication because they they have transversed that to now internet communication or digital communication but the reason they have done that is because they want to be able to control that and it's it's so much easier to control digital communication than is in-person physical communication but they have to just they have to stop the physical in-person communication um so now what they want to do is control digital communication they want to control what your narrative and your and your discourse is and so guys don't take for granted what you have and what you're listening to um fight for the people you listen to fight for people like Ashen fight for people that you believe in fight for people that you believe in the message and uh and tell everyone you possibly know about the people that you believe in their message because that's the only way we're going to survive this um we we have to have I always say like how do you fight the the powers of be well you have to tell everyone else that hey this is what we got to this is what we got to listen to We we got to fight for the truth we got to fight for the message and if you can do that man um we have a chance but otherwise we don't yeah no and I think that you know what you're saying there is like don't take your time for granted you know that we have when we have this freedom and don't take your freedoms for granted you know either like these uh you know take it for granted and then it'll be gone before you know it and I think we've seen a lot of them disappear so I agree with everything you're saying Chad and thank you for coming on and talking to me tonight absolutely ashon well man we uh like we we always appreciate you coming on our podcast anyone who listen to us I mean investigate Earth podcast that's our podcast you guys can go check it out and um we have a lot of good episodes Ashton by the way I think we're at what four or five now I think it's four or five yeah I think five even because we had one impromptu as well so we've been having some good conversations and I I look forward to more as well absolutely but guys have a great night um Ashton thank you for having me on and we'll talk to you soon thanks Chad take it easy buddy peace out