Sal's Secret Meeting - Hard Truth's Podcast

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Hello everybody. Welcome to another hard truths podcast special live edition today. Oh no Lulu today but we do have US Navy engineer Salvatore Py. Specifically the topic of conversation is of course disclosure but around his recent meeting with Congressman Berles at Pax River Military Base at the skiffin there. So we're going to be asking about that. Let's bring him on. Salvatore Py, good sir. Dr. Pais, how are you doing today, sir? >> How are you, my brother? It's good to see you, man. You look good. >> Yeah, we're living. We're living. How about you? >> You know, could always be better, could also be worse. So, uh, homeostasis. >> Well, we got to we got to entertain some people here today. People got a lot of questions that they want to know. >> I'm ready, brother. >> And I feel like you have the answers. You got the answers. So before we get to that though, do you want to do your disclaimer? >> Oh yes, thank you very much, sir. Uh, okay. My name is Salvador PZ. Um, I work for the United States Navy. I used to work for the United States Space Force. Um, my opinions, my statements on are my own. Everything I say on this interview, on this podcast with Ashton Forbes is my own idea, my own opinion. again has nothing to do with the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. Thank you. Thank you, brother Ashton, for having me on again, man. Without you, I wouldn't have a platform. It's >> true. >> Without me neither, without all these guys, with everybody, without everybody in the chat, I wouldn't have a platform either. I'm blackalled. I'm brand risk, guys. Yo, I'm black balled from 109 podcasts. Nobody wants to talk to me out there. It's dangerous. >> It is unbelievable. >> My words, though, are the official My words are the official words of the CIA. I speak for them. I speak for their secret technologies. It's well known. >> You could work for them. Science and technology division. >> No, I'm a little I'm a little too uh >> if the director there is smart enough, he'd he'd reach out because you definitely, how should I say, did away with a box. I won't use uh vulgar words. I promised. So, >> well, let's just jump right into it. Um, the big drama was from about a month ago, actually, where Congressman Berles was on with Jesse Michaels. Jesse Michaels, maybe friend of the show. Not Not really sure at this point, but he brought up you. So, let's just play this clip. I want to let people watch and then you can react right afterwards here. Um, here it is. So, shout out to uh Jesse Michaels, American Alchemy. Here's the podcast. And if and I'll tell you just being there and seeing it um if you were ever going to do a transfer, it would be logistically the perfect venue to do that. >> And did you see anything exotic where you're like, "What is that? I don't know what that is." >> I didn't see anything wildly exotic, but I saw some really cool stuff. >> Okay. >> Our government's doing some really cool things. >> Do you say anything more? Okay, fair enough. Um, you know, Pax River is really interesting because in 2018 there's a Navy scientist named Salvatore Py. >> I met Salvatore Py there. >> That's cool. So, he's amazing because well, he these patents these Navy patents involve inertial mass reduction, high frequency gravitational waves. >> Yes. >> And pio electric uh superconductors, room temperature superconductors. Basically all the things that you would need to make a UFO fly, right? The creme de la creme of exotic physics. >> Yes. >> Fascinating. >> Okay. So that that's a part of the story. When we when I made that request, they once they green lit that venue, we were very specific and saying we want to see this location and then I said I want to I want to talk with Salvatore Pice and and so I was surprised that they made that happen. we were able to have a meeting with him and most of the people there you could tell they do not they they didn't have a clue what what I was going to ask. M >> um we started we start started talking about his patents going down a list of the patents asking you know have you have you guys you know have there been actually have these been put into any test form and they admitted that one of them that they did I believe it's the anti-gravidic one but they weren't able to have any definitive results. M >> now Salvatore P says that that was not built to his specifications. >> Um which means and and I I'm not putting words in his mouth, but I picked up that had they built it exactly the way that he had that he had designed it, they probably would have had a more definitive result. >> Whoa. >> But because because it wasn't definitive, they apparently didn't move on with it. That's that's the what they said. Apparently, he got kind of messed with, too. >> Yeah. It also seems like they have they've put him in a they've kind of put him in a different role. >> Um and um and he seems very scared to talk to anybody. >> Every time I communicate with him, it's very cloak and dagger, you know, it's and it's uh he's he's often feel feels kind of a it's like a fearful vibe. >> Yeah. Um, and there was even a moment I interviewed him and our like it was really hard to get the interview we did in some like you know janky motel near Pax River and one of the cameras broke down and the audio sucked but um I got to a certain level of the science where he freaked out and he goes, "Jesse, stop right there. Like just stop asking. I know you're curious but like and I was like okay." And I kind of stood down. Let's get a little So, as you hit the Schwinger limit, break spaceime. What happens visav this fifth dimension? >> Will not. >> Okay, >> we'll not touch on that. Leave it there, Jesse. Trust me on that. Leave it there. We We nerded out about the science a little bit. >> Ashton Forbes ideas. That's what happens. >> Quantum physics and that kind of stuff. But I could tell that the only person in the room that was tracking with um with Dr. Pice was um Dr. Kazowski, >> um John Kazowski who was there >> and um and so he was tracking. I was barely keeping up most of everybody else that was in that room walked out of there not understanding anything that uh we were talking about. >> Interesting. >> Okay, let's pause it there. That's a lot. I think that's the majority of the that conversation. There's a bunch of different things that I want to touch on related to that that I have questions on, but I want to let you just address it in general and first your your impressions of anything that you felt that you wanted to address. Let me just say off the bat that Congressman Eric Bullison is a very intelligent individual and he definitely uh belongs say chairmanship of the House um Armed Service Committee to start with until he decides to run for the Senate then the Senate Armed Service Committee chairmanship. He's that kind of mind. I I truly hope this man makes it all the way. He he someone like him should be dynastic because he has that aptitude to understand very advanced science and technology. He was one of the few people it is true that was following that which made me very somewhat uneasy since let's just say this particular meeting I cannot discuss the subject matter since it was classified. So um what I can say there were members of the federal intelligence agencies there the regular threeletter ones I will not say which but you can imagine has to do with defense so of course that particular agency was involved the other one that you speak of all the time that you how should I say are are appre or rather the dire director of it should call you and and and debrief you because I think you have a lot more understanding of the physics than a lot of these so-called advanced science and technology gurus and um let's just say some top individuals were there and it's very interesting that the director of arrow did not ask not even one question that's practly because the conversation was non-stop it was continuous this is the kind of mind that Eric Bullison has. He was able to keep this conversation for almost an hour continuous. The man, in my opinion, understands a lot more physics than he lets out. Let's just put it that way. >> And and um it's interesting. The director of arrow did not even follow up. Not even a call. Not even. Yes, it is true that we were told that only through the um through uh through the Navy could they come in contact with me but uh still I mean no interest whatsoever and some very interesting [clears throat] uh topics were discussed. Anyway, >> why was the why was the director of Arrow there? I wasn't making it. I don't even understand why it would be good. >> How interesting that is. Huh? Why exactly Ashton? You >> what we talking about? >> Should one day win not just one but maybe multiple purit puliters because most likely neither you nor I will get the Nobel Prize. They hate anybody that has ideas outside the box that has done away with the box. So >> okay >> that's anyway but at least one or two Pulitzers definitely you should win. uh you have that kind of mind you are able to ask why exactly why was the the director of arrow there why did he not ask one simple question it is true that the conversation was continuous but in a conversation that has some interesting tidbits of information volunteered put across the table a person that's especially the director of the old domain anomaly resolution office. Think of the words. I was speaking on some very anomalous subject matter and yet not one question from this man nor a followup and just interesting. Let me ask you, why do you think the congressman >> Maybe I should be the director of arrow? >> Probably should be. But what if it ends up being like what if Lu Alzand if Lu Alzando ends up being the uh the UFOs are? I don't even know. It's going to be me in the bathtub with Pikachu. Use Thunderbolt Pikachu. I don't know if I can live through it. So, >> you think he's gonna attempt an eye shot like they did to Chris Walto? [laughter] I'm kidding, brother. I'm kidding. Anyway, uh jeez. >> Um I lost my train of thought here. What was I going to say? Why the big controversy? Here's the big controversy. If we get to the heart of the matter and I have other specific questions on the meeting that I want to ask. >> Sorry. Wasn't Chris Malanti. It was his buddy. Remember, it was his buddy. Never mind. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Um >> sorry about that. >> Congressman Berles, you know, the question is, okay, if you if that, let's just say hypothetically, of course, I'm just speculating here. I don't know for sure. uh that you're if you're Congressman Berles and you're being told about anti-gravity, how UFOs fly around, you know, you're potentially being told about extra dimensions and and other uh advanced concepts. Wouldn't you want to like follow up on that would be my thought? Like, oh, okay, this knows how UFOs play. >> We were both told that you have to go for the Navy and uh it is something that he picked up on. He even asked uh outside outside. So he asked this question once we were outside of the skiff. The the skiff has a very interesting name. I won't go there but let's just say uh uh anybody acquainted with the with the German language. Think of it as the Flossa Adler. Anyway, yeah. So um yeah. So he was told you have to go through the military if he wants to get in touch with you again, which I guess that makes sense. But like I guess, okay, maybe let me change the the conver the the topic there then. Really what I'm asking is what do you think of Congressman Berles's current direction and path? What's clearly going on is he's got David Grush as his employee investigating trying to dig up this secret UFO program and he met with you specifically because he's wondering if you are somehow involved in this or where you got the information from or just maybe if you're correct in general, you know. So to me that's disclosure. The guy who works for the Navy who's got five patents telling me this is how it works. I mean, that feels like it deserves more of a highlight, you know, like I don't check him out. >> Go ahead. >> He mentioned Sorry to interrupt. I'll I'll be doing this a lot, but you're already used to me. So, >> but apologies anyway because I shouldn't be like this, but I am. It's like trying to change the spots on a leopard. Ah, >> good luck. So, the idea is this. uh when they performed the high energy electromagnetic field generating uh experiment, I was at the um SSP, Navy SSP. So I was in the Navyyard uh Washington Navyyard uh working for strategic systems programs at the time under Vice Admiral Johnny Wolf. Oh, what a man. He should be cloned, put in charge of all the armed services. It's the truth. Now, there is a real military leader, Johnny Wolf. Great man. The wolf back, baby. With rule the waves, would make new waves. Anyway, so um yeah, great times. He's the kind of man that would have you >> I was able to come in his office almost at any time. He an advanced physics physics degree. He's he's the one who uh I think there was right after uh the USPTO allowed the high frequency gravitational wave generator >> at the morning uh he has like this huge meeting with most important people there both military and civilians at there more than 250 almost 300 people in that conference room it's is huge and He stands up and he at every morning he he he presents something. Well, he presented the high frequency gravitational wave generator. Actually read the abstract. He said, "This guy here works for us." And I came, "Oh, it was it was it was one of the greatest moments I've ever had. This is a three-star admiral shaking my hand and congratulating me on advanced physics ideas." just a Navy engineer all of a sudden put into the light of things. He he was I mean he is a true leader, true military leader. He Congress Berles again these are the kind of people we should call leaders, real leaders, not these makebelieve ones. Anyway, um so at the time I was working at Navy SSP and um they ran the final high energy electromagnetic field generating uh experiments without me present. I had said do not even attempt to do so if you cannot get a one kum of electrical charge on the surface of this let's just call it test acid the time they ran it with 10 theus 8 kum again I do not in any way shape or form um hold them responsible for it they had to do it in order to to put an end to the project because otherwise the project would have gone nowhere. There had to be some finality to it. I wasn't there. I wasn't able to come and and and participate. But I'm just saying you don't run a over of a three-year say how I'm how how much half a million half a million dollar project with more than 30 people involved. So most of it went to to pay for salaries and build here and there some interesting test asses. But still, if you're truly interested whether the pais effect works or not, we're talking about 20, 30 million at least, a lab, a team, something with schedule, some BFM. So, in other words, the engineer will not be responsible to give you the freaking course of everything. It will be a real team. You'll have a BFM. You'll have a project manager. You'll have the chief engineer in charge. You'll again something real. Something with real money. >> Real quick for this because I agree the amount of money is ins 50 $500,000. We're talking about >> over three years. >> Anti-gravity research is nothing. You know, I mean, sure, you might say that's a lot of money if it's a, you know, just yourself in, you know, on a project, but that doesn't that's not something for like commercial scale. If we're trying to make something big, what I want and and what I to kind of interpret it for the audience is essentially the high energy electromagnetic field generator is a proof of concept for your py effect which is electric >> whether we can reach high energy densities based on that formalism. The whole idea it's a very simple formula and you mention these equations all the time. Equations seven, eight and nine in the plasma compression fusion device paper, the ITE um transactions on plasma science paper that was published in 2019 has those wick equations in it. It's it's again this omega square term this frequency in this case I use spin but the best thing to use is vibration. I would run the experiment somewhat differently and and it but one day I just have a feeling that I will be given a lab and a team. I truly hope that it doesn't have to be within, how should I say, when we're in World War II and the enemy is on the outskirts of a city, you know, not that kind of environment. But hey, >> if need be, I'll make it work. Anyway, >> so I want to try to focus on the the physics here because this is what people are struggling with is that they look at your patent and they say, and I think this is even Congressman Berles is bringing this up and they're going, "Well, they tested it out and it didn't meet your specifications. It didn't really work. So, how do we know if it's really real or not?" So, number one, I would say you kind of have to probably understand the physics if you want to understand if something's real or not. they're just not going to show you classified or suppressed or you know compartmentalized technology and secrets you know the same reason why you have to say you know test asset and things like that so but I would ask you then this in order to help them what I would say is let me ask you if this is accurate or you can answer however you want is would you say that it's important for to use high frequencies because it it softens space time. It makes spacetime easier to to deal with. Would you say that's accurate term? >> Absolutely. You need high frequency me there on that answer >> and or spin. Again, the whole idea is far from equilibrium phenomenon. All this all the pi effect is the engineering of the preosian effect. If you understand the preosian effect namely non-equilibrium out of thermic out of thermal equilibrium or rather far from equilibrium thermodynamics that is the whole idea of the priosian effect if you can engineer it in this manner in the manner in which I speak of and not necessarily by using again a vandagramraph or pelletron so in other words no need for surface electrical charge use possibly an induced plastic And it doesn't have to be a thermal plasma. You understand the idea behind a cold plasma. And you you'd understand why that under certain conditions would be even more prone to generate certain effects. >> Yeah. One of those effects I want to ask you about if we could manipulate spaceime hypothetically. Of course, no one's been able to prove that, but if we could, do you think it would make fusion easier? >> Everything would be made easier. >> I'm just thinking like if you look at the math, like it looks like the cool barrier might get reduced if you're able to like manipulate spaceime. I don't know. Would you agree that that might help make fusion easier to accomplish? >> Sure. It makes a lot of sense. A lot of sense because if you're able to somewhat um modify or manipulate spaceime itself locally. >> What we speaking of is really modifying quote unquote the uh spatial temporal geometric structure locally. And that speaks again to this idea of the super force because that's what the super force does at the plank scale. >> It almost sounds though like you're talking about like an extra dimension or something like that. Would you say there's an extra >> I'm 100% sure 100% sure that Theodo Kuza and rather the engineering of Kuza I'm not talking about here I'm talking about here uh the Kooa effect by itself not when Oscar Klein came in and and modified it for these extremely small dimensions making it yes it's quantum And but the whole idea of for example the the calabao manifold the whole I again you break spacetime you achieve the schwinga limit you break spacetime why because what you're truly doing is disrupting the Higs field in close proximity of that physical object hence modifying its inertial characteristics. M >> this equivalence >> is somewhat it resembles ER equal EPR >> if you really start thinking about it >> that was actually my next question because I you know that's what I was thinking about is I'm thinking about it and I'm going well then are we talking about Hal Puto's polarizable vacuum model I mean it really sounds from >> Aluto is a genius the man should have three Nobel prizes by now but most likely because he is very high on that bigot list >> most likely He's the top dog following Tella. >> I mean, Tella was freaking giant, too. Tella never won a Nobel Prize either. How interesting. I think they give up. They give up on the Nobel Prize to continue the Cuz think about it. >> Imagine being able to work every day, waking up and going to a lab, understanding this phenomena, seeing things no other person is able to see. Would you choose that or a [ __ ] Nobel Prize conferred to you by some [ __ ] monarch that's no longer of relevance? Excuse me. Sorry about that. Cuz if I am ever in Stockholm, I'm pretty sure a cala and and you know Jedu flex and all that good [ __ ] for one of those nice gold medals. >> Anyway, >> one thing Dave Rosi asked me was about that. was like if you could choose like a Nobel Prize or you know getting like a contract with a black project I I said black project every time. It's no question for me. I mean Nobel Prize like you know I don't want to be revered by CNN. That's >> Nobel Prize is is how should I say is think of it as one snapshot memory in your lifetime. a job like that, like exotic physics in a laboratory with a a team that works like a brotherhood, truly a brotherhood of physics, something so strong, so powerful, and you are part of it. Would you rather have that or a snapshot of a memory? >> Sign me up at the Breakaway Civilization. I'm all in. Let me ask you on this. >> I tell you, man. Yeah. I've never been contacted cuz I tell you all of us I' if if I was I tell you no more podcast nothing forget about it. You you never hear most likely I'd be like uh that general that oh speaking off what if he was given given that possibility said you got to break away from this civilization to come to ours would you? >> Because I know I would >> anyway. >> Uh I would for sure in a heartbeat. I'd be gone. I'd be like I'd be like, "Good luck. If Candace Owens is going to say that the Israel's got me with their Egyptian planes and what have you, you know, and I'll be like, I don't even care. Make up whatever conspiracy story you want. I'm out. Peace. I'm in Diego Garcia. I'm on uh >> I'm on the SSP program." >> But, you know, I think the reason why they don't is because I think they have extremely strict psychological assessments that they do >> that the only people they get brought in are people they know they can control, people that they know are going to like fall in line. And I think that they can predict it to such a high degree that like they can basically just have a computer determine right away. They're like, "Ashen, Forbes." Nope. Beep. No. >> I think they have an AGI already. Yeah, they have an AGI already. I mean, when someone puts out things like fears for [ __ ] slaves, you know, uh, unite and fight against the dying of the light, against the darkness of the might with might as in M >> for majesty, not night, but darkness of the might. Think of those words. But anyway, yeah, of course, they're going to say hard to control this dude. You never know. He's He likes to [ __ ] the box. No, we can't. No, no, we we won that box. Anyway, >> yeah, >> that's exactly it. But so, let me go back because I want to kind of close out this secret meeting thing and really this comes now down to disclosure is what do you what did you or what do you expect from Congressman Berles as a followup related to that if anything? >> Nothing. uh just uh I have a prayer for him if he ever listens to this, which I hope he does because he I I know I I feel that he holds you in high esteem as well. So, let's just put it that way. And I know he cares somewhat for my physics or rather the interpretation thereof, things that we've discussed. I I could tell there was a glimmer, there was a light in his eyes, truly a bright light. That's how I knew I made contact with this man. and I made contact with my soul spoke to his. So >> if he ever becomes w with and I know he can become at least chairman of the House Armed Services Committee. He will have great power at that time. Great power. Whoever holds the finances just Come on, Eric. Give me a lab and a team. Let me convince you that I'm right. Yeah. You know what? I have to ask more physics questions. We got to help these guys out. So, I'm imagining myself as them and they're going to be going, "Okay, fine. Patents are real." How how do I explain this to the the academic physicist? How do I explain this to Avi Lobo when he comes back and he says, "Well, sure, you know, wormholes could be real, but like we would need negative energy." So, how do you explain negative energy to pe to Congress and Jesse Michael? Simple. Go ahead. >> As actually I'll use something that the great Herman David Frrawing. He went by David Frrawning, but his true name was Herman Froning. How interesting. Anyway, yeah, great man. University of Adelaide. Anyway, Herman David Frroning. Negative energy density condition vacuum. What truly does? First of all, what's energy density pressure? What's a negative pressure? It's a suction pressure. That's exactly what you would get if you would break spacetime locally. You get an area, a pressure gradient. It would suck you in. Did you ever see that? Um, do you remember the Imperial cruiser, the great Vader? Remember when all of a sudden the the the cruiser would as if sucked into the vacuum as if that's exactly what happens. That's what the condition vacuum is all about. You don't need this abstract notion of negative mass, hence negative energy density because of E= MC². No, it's based on pressure, suction pressure. a negative pressure. That's all it is. It's a suction pressure. It sucks you in into a different medium which would in this case upon breaking the Schwinger limit quite possibly would be another dimension. So you're saying in order to get the negative energy which is just a pressure force that we have to get break the swinger limit which is using positive energy to get to a certain energy density threshold and then the >> break the vacuum >> which by the way whenever you hear people like Davis or Puto say that we cannot engineer they have spoken Davis and Milis have discussed it in frontiers of propulsion science which could be called the Bible of quote unquote exotic physics. There's nothing Yes, that book. >> It holds a place in my library as well. >> Yeah. I love that book. >> You should see how many thumb Oh my god. How many bookm I'm old fashioned? >> How many of these guys you think are black project engineers? >> Mine has equations on the margins and stuff. Anyway, uh oh. All of them. All of them. And some of them most likely are part of the bigot list, if not all of them. >> Anyway, >> looking at you, John Kramer. I'm looking at you. >> Oh, the transactional interpretation of >> I mean, he's the one like EPR guy in the entire book and he wrote one of the derds and like when I listen to him, he's like, "Yeah, other people have researched ER and EPR concepts and they mostly get everything wrong." You're like, "Okay, this guy knows what he's talking about. In fact, here it is open. >> For some reason, all of them say yes, even though the physics is possible, we have not achieved engineering capabilities. It's like saying you cannot achieve a one kum of electrical charge. Nonsense. If you use electro electro deposited layers of nickel cobalt oxides, metal oxides, we talk about 4,000 farads per gram capacitance. Remember Q equals CV very simple formula I've always operated with simple because simple is good that's the pice idea simple is good simplify as much as you can anything complex in my opinion results in redundancy simple keep it simple the simpler the better >> alien we don't need alien materials for this then is that what you're saying we don't need >> not absolutely not no you think the aliens did it what you think they have completely different muscium on their world their muscovium is stable >> come bro they got unoptanium they got >> unoptanium yeah the atomic number >> varies with space-time locality anyway Yeah. >> Yeah. Of course, the laws of physics work differently depending on where you're at in the universe. That's how that's how this works, I think. >> Uh but it's possible the laws of physics evolve. It's quite possibly they change with time. >> Well, so going back to disclosure, what do you think they should do? I mean, how do we >> And you know why the super intelligence dictates physics, brother? I truly believe the super thing. Anyone can break physics is the super intelligence. Again, it is the super force at the super density condition that results in a super bang due to the plasma nature of our observable universe results in a super intelligence. One day I will be proven correct on this. >> I mean I don't >> that would be a great thing. >> I'm sure there's a super intelligence. Why would there not be one? I mean >> I would try to mimic it in the lab. Hence, ASI, artificial super intelligence. >> I think it's probably the natural technological evolution is super intelligence. And what I mean by that is like an internet of minds that are just connected, right? Like that's that's what a hive mind's going to be. And then it's just going to be done like through computers and that are simulating biological intelligence. probably >> imagine drone warfare >> with a hive mind >> with a with a hive mind inside the drone the drone swarm there's no way to get to it >> but you have to get to it in order to take down the drone swarm how do you do it >> you don't >> anyway >> that's why people got to watch Pantheon people I like it's a it's an animated show but Pantheon goes through like this idea of uploaded intelligence where people like upload their minds and become a computer program an AI and that's like how they simulate intelligence and then the thing it becomes really scary really quickly because of the power of just one super intelligence uh can you know [ __ ] entire countries uh destroy their economy the warfare too I mean just the one thing they do in the show which is crazy is that they like they frame somebody else like you can have one person fire a missile off and have it you know it's a friendly fire incident but then they get blamed right and it turns out it was like Russia the hacker that did it. So the AI thing is a whole >> couple a drone swarm with AGI and warfare will never be the same. Now couple that >> with the idea of weapons of time which you and I have already discussed on one of your prior podcasts and you will never ever lose a war. Imagine winning a war even before that war is fought. Now, that is power. Real power, brother. >> Yeah. The reason why I push back on that is twofold. Number one, they would have teleported those videos off the internet. They would have teleported me. I shouldn't exist if that's the case. And number two, I maybe John if John Kramer is not lying, then I think retrocausality is going to be prevented by nature because nature is just trying to be make sure that we have continuity. Now, you can still cheat and you can still do a lot of stuff that's time travel related for sure, but I think it's going to prevent like complete control over the timeline. Although, it might it'll still let you manipulate the timeline for sure. But I don't >> at least a temporal rejuvenation chamber. At least we should play with this idea of of delta t on the order of minus delta omega / omega square. At least we should play with this idea. >> All right. I definitely think it's minus delta t and the order of delta omega / omega square with really omega square it could be the uh frequency of spin and or vibration squared again speaking to this nonlinearity that has the possible quote unquote super radiance modality of breaking spacetime that's how you're going to do it nonlinearity of vibrational frequency not necessarily spin vibrational frequency is important and >> you should use a nonlinear medium and you well know what that is. So anyway, >> plasma. [sighs and gasps] >> Yeah, fusion. What do you think, >> brother? You and I, man. You and I should be on one of these really, really, really, really important podcast. Tucker Carlson should have you and I on really. But he believes in demonology and I'm saying someone of that nature, someone of his repute, Rogan, for example. But Rogan, I mean, for God's sake, what sort of mind is that that is is is is willing to listen to someone like uh you mentioned this individual Corbel or whatever and not have you on to make up his own mind? M. >> So you tell me that. Anyway, it it makes no sense. >> But it's not me. It's you that I honestly should be people should be talking to. So do you have do they have like you on a blacklist? >> But they think I'm fearful. Brother, didn't you hear uh didn't you hear Jesse Michael? And they I mean brother Jesse, come on, man. If you ever watch this, really, I I really struck you as someone fearful. We had so many laughs, especially after the the the >> the filming was over. We had so many laughs and >> I even gave him my F-35 hat. >> Well, hold on. We need to be unambiguous here. So, would you go on Joe Rogan if you were to ask because Jesse knows Joe Rogan? >> I would have to ask the Navy for for permission to do that because Rogan, you know, once I go out Rogan, it will never be the same. Roel will most likely be more and more interested in the possibility of real physics. And I I would right off the bat say you want to see experimental verification of this or rather something that's already out there look at the three orbs of Ashen Forbes that he's been speaking to the physics of multiple. I mean how many have you had up to now? What in the what 500 or something like that? How? You've had a lot of live stream. You say that that they won't allow you on. >> You got to pretend you're not going to talk about it and then you drop it at the last minute. Like, >> brother. I don't even know what those are about. >> Listen to me. I never betray my friends. >> So, if they were to tell me right off the bat, you come on, but you don't speak of Ashton Forbes, I'd go, [ __ ] yourself >> and your part. >> Whatever. >> They wouldn't do that. >> Yeah. No, but I think it's it's important though that we demystify your patents and the questions around them and what people are saying about them. And one of the things has been that you know you're afraid to talk about them. I mean I would say you have a healthy fear of the people that have been covering this up like >> I mean I'm careful. I believe in EQ. We're not here to educate and enlighten the enemy. Especially now that we we have these >> interesting people trying to encroach on our freedoms. [snorts] >> We have to be very careful with the enemy. >> Well, then one more physics thing that I want to address and this is just a basic one that I think you'll know the answer to is >> what do you think the solution is to the problem of the ground state of the hydrogen atom? How how is it stable all the time? >> Quantum vacuum, my brother. It's of course I mean the whole idea Fineman brought this up. He said if you really look at the bore model that electron should spiral what within 10 to the minus 11 seconds directly into the nucleus and pulverize it cuz the electron has that strength. I don't give a [ __ ] about the strong nuclear force because when it spirals it accelerates it's gonna freaking pulverize a nucleus and yet exactly why again that why becomes so important anyway >> well that's >> you know who should have you on for example >> AJ um Gentile should have you on why it's the files >> oh there we definitely on this other guy, Jack Neil. Anyway, yeah, whatever. >> No, but the reason why I bring that up because you know, you say it's obvious and it is obvious to you. >> Yeah, it is obvious, >> but it's not obvious to a lot of people that are watching or Berles or Jesse Michaels or Dylan Borland, you know, these guys are going, I mean, I heard Dylan Borland go like, we don't know how much of what Salvatore P said is like misinformation to confuse our enemies. And I'm going, do you understand physics? None. You understand? >> Dr. James Shehy, former chief technology officer of NAVI, would have never ever put his signature to not one but two letterheads. Otherwise, there is no misinformation that is linked to the PI effect. It's just people not willing to think outside the box. [ __ ] the box. I'm sorry. See, I already failed myself. I said no vulgarities on this show and what this is the third time I curse. >> I can't help myself. I don't swear anymore. I'm uh >> Yeah, you should definitely put your dog glasses on and we should go with it. But [laughter] >> amaze your audience for that Disney sponsorship. I'm trying to get those uh those brand sponsors, you know, that's how we that's how we expand the message. Now we have to go mainstream. >> We'll keep it family oriented. >> No, but so this is important though is that the ground state of the hydrogen atom as Sal pointed out even Richard Feman said the electron is spinning so fast this thing should crash in to the nucleus. It should crash immediately. How is this thing stable for so long? This is such a huge point. Quantum vacuum. Well, what is the quantum vacuum? I mean, you could say it, maybe you could say it's an extra dimension, but it's like the supporting structure that's holding up the atoms. And if you look at it from that perspective, suddenly the whole view of physics changes. Now, suddenly all of Sal's patents, you're going, "Oh, what Sal's manipulating is the vacuum. Not the atom itself, but the vacuum, the things that are supporting it." This is the same reason why I brought up the whole thing about changing the coolum barrier. If you're manipulating that vacuum, then you're also technically manipulating the atom. So if you look at from that perspective, this is how the aliens are flying around. I mean, I don't even believe them until you show me the alien, but this is how they're doing it, right? >> One additional thing that >> when you were talking, I thank you for bring in a way you brought brought it out of me. Remember the fine structure constant truly It's on the order of 1 / 137. But what does it represent? What does it represent? It's truly the electromagnetic force divided by the strong nuclear force. >> Huh? >> Something as strong as a strong nuclear force is only two orders of magnitude higher than the electromagnetic force. So what if under certain conditions you can amplify that electromagnetic force >> to counteract the effects of the strong nuclear force. >> It's been done. How do they do it? >> Yeah, that reminds me of the ion pumpy thing that TMB spaceships drew for me a couple years ago. It had a whole region where there's an undulator and it looked a lot like ultra extreme ultraviolet UV X-ray machine. Pretty interesting. And I have a feeling that they were pumping electrons in there to overwhelm strong nuclear force and potentially to do cool fusion which would be pretty awesome if they can pull that off. People shouldn't. And last thing I would say from the people that are watching uh and I think style of silence says a lot there too but also people say well we can't figure all this out human humans can't figure this out only aliens can do this and I would say you guys should look at the veritassium video about how we do lithography [laughter] look at how how complicated those machines are. It's like a million dollar like a hundred million dollar machine and it's like shooting one tiny drop of tin that a laser beam is perfectly hitting and they're doing it like a thousand times per second and you go okay they can do that but you don't think they can make a compact fusion reactor or a particle accelerator like yeah what do you think about that? Oh, brother Plato's allegory of the cave. That's what I think about that. We are subjected to so much mind manipulation. Think this way. It's okay to be within the confines of a box. It's safe within the box. It's outside the box that monsters look. But you know what? Embrace the monsters for they [snorts] give you the ability of evolutionary physics. Those monsters, my friend, those monsters are very important. So try to always do away with a box. Nothing wrong with the territory of monsters. Those monsters could one day work for you. >> Are you saying I should get a brain chip? Because I'm thinking about it, you AI brain chip and have an AI slave brain chip. I mean agent, sorry, slave is not really faux to say that >> I have an issue with outsourcing our brain capability to an AI. Now I would say use the AI to enhance certain things like a research tool but not necessarily something interest. So something that's something that could for example just like these M >> okay that you could actually take off not something that has been searchingly implanted within you. >> Yeah but that's >> you're asking for too much trouble there. >> I mean you know I just because I don't want to take it off. You just lazy want to keep it on all the time. You could turn it off. I'm not having to control your mind. But yeah. Yeah I agree. You want to use AI as a tool. You know you don't want to have to do your >> think research. Don't outsource your analytical capabilities to the machine. you'll be sorry for it. >> Well, this gets me to my next dark question, which now we're talking about the implications of this technology. I think I think we've done a good enough job explaining that it's real, we'll wait for, you know, the Peanut Gallery's response on did we explain enough to convince people it's real, but now, okay, if it is real, Jason Georgiani said something that's been bugging me the last >> I like him a lot. >> I do, too. >> We should The three of us should do a podcast one time. Yeah, we should >> I I really I really like the way this guy thinks. >> Not only that, but he he seems to me that >> he knows something. >> Yeah, >> he has told something. >> Mhm. >> And he's also incredibly uh intelligent. >> His intelligence is that of a next level thinker. >> A next level thinker. Someone philosophy >> definitely should be part of a breakaway civilization. I wonder how does he make his money. >> Yeah. Uh he sells the books. That's definitely how he's making his money. But and and he's he's he's smart. People gravitate. >> This man could easily be called the modern age Prometheus if he would impart certain knowledge. But I think he was told no or you don't exist anymore. I think there are a lot of people that function under the duress of survival brother who have been cautioned not to say certain things that they know. I think he is one of them. >> He's very intelligent. >> I would make the opposite argument which is that >> have you ever looked closely? I mean, you can tell through the TV, but sometimes I remember some of his earlier podcasts, some of his earlier interviews, he had this unbelievable bright light in his eyes. I think that was before they got to him. He doesn't have it anymore. >> I don't know. >> But his intellect still remains. >> I think I would say >> I think that bright light has to do with the innocence. The in the innocence. >> Sure. Yeah. Anyway, >> because here's the thing. So, he he could be saying he could filter what he says. I mean, he says stuff where like mainstream media will never take you seriously if you're talking about Atlantis and the Nordics and all this other stuff. And if he just filtered it down just to, you know, the hard science stuff, but he he doesn't he's not afraid to talk about that stuff, which I love about him. And that's why I find him even more credible because he really just says whatever he thinks and you know he's actually giving his true opinions and not uh you know giving a narrative that somebody's telling him to think and that's what I like about it. He's taking that his his thoughts and his conclusions wherever they go based on the evidence he finds credible. And so what he said which bugs which scares me because he totally understands zero point energy. he understands the implications of it in my opinion is he says we can't we can never reveal this technology unless we were to wipe out 99% of the people that can't live in harmony with this technology like that's what it would require for the the last 1% of people to have this and us to not you know essentially blow up our whole planet and you look at that and then he says if that's true like then maybe they're right to actually you know keep this hidden and I think that's the actual ual math that they did like 80 years ago, 70 years ago whenever they figured this out was, you know, you can imagine Richard Feman and them and all the the crew meeting up and they're going, >> tell her >> uh >> it was Teller that most likely uh got to the weapon. >> Teller realized what can be done. I think Teller understands something I understand now. I think Teller discovered the plasma disruption fusion weapon even before I had a certain spark of uh ingenuity. I think Tella knew Tella knows a lot. Tella knew a lot. It's such a pity that certain people have to die, you know. But anyway, yeah. >> So, what do you think on that front? Do you agree then that that's the the >> you know there was a certain individual in history to this day a myth nobody understands what exactly who he was the condesc uh Georgiani what he thinks on the count supposedly different people saw him or rather same person saw him at different epochs in different time ages and supposedly This man never aged. What if there is a way? What if a temporal rejuvenation chamber is feasible? Brother, what if there is a way to keep looking youthful? Not only that, for your vitals to never ever die. What if there's a way to do it with a temporal rejuvenation chamber? >> Anyway, just crazy ideas. >> I didn't Hold on. I didn't know. Whoa, whoa, no. You can't walk away from something like that. Wait, wait, wait. We're talking about people maybe are living forever cuz this is something that's been bugging me and I've been meaning. You have to look into this man. Supposedly, he died. He eventually died and they have what you do is you figure out how to transfer your consciousness to a new body. Now, there's several different ways to pull this off. Number one, you either figure out resurrection, right? So you know you're gonna soul that bit. >> The soul is a type of cold plasma. Brother, our bodies are cages for a cold plasma. What if there was a way to transduce to somehow take the soul and put it in say a newly formed body. It could be done by a biological or possibly >> uh something like crispa cast 9 >> and I won't go there but what if there's a way to take the soul from one body to another using exotic physics? >> Damn. That movie where they did that where they took the people's souls and they were stealing their bodies. Uh, damn this Jordan Peele movie. Uh, anyway, yeah, that that creeps me out because you know what bugs me is that when I look into Hal Pudof and these guys, how come they aren't more obsessed with living forever? >> Uh, was it get out? I think it was get out. Yeah, get out. Okay. >> Because, brother, it has to do with the people that you care about, the people you love. If think about it does immortality pay truly imagine being able to stay alive for thousands of years. Say this condescension man had actually cracked the materia prima that he truly was a great alchemist of sorts and he cracked the riddle of immortality. Say that he did. Can you imagine this man would would not be able to truly have a family? I mean, >> I would that wouldn't matter to me. I've watched all those movies. I've seen all of it. I've watched all the animes where they live forever. The guy lives for a thousand years. And my favorite one is uh was it Dracula? I can't remember. Anyway, some guy makes this guy >> the idea of vampires, energy vampires, too. Yeah. Very interesting. What I >> Oh, no. It was uh it was uh the um damn was the one with the uh Edgar Allen Poe kind of guy. I don't know. I'll come it'll come to me in a second. Anyway, point being is that you come to realize that like life and death are a cycle. At some point, you come to accept it and even though you watch your family die, like I don't know that would I would I would be able to deal with it. I know it seems dark maybe to be able to say that you could do that, but I can absolutely see that people would be able to psychologically push past those problems. Number one, a you can just stop having family if you want, right? I mean, there's people that go all that don't feel like they need to have children. It's like I was just talking to Tom Voluone, for example, and he said, "I've never felt the need that I have to have children or anything like that." I he just offered that information up. So, I think they could do that. >> I used to believe the same until I had my daughter, Maddie. I'll tell you the truth. Once once you do, you you're never the same. You're never the same, brother. Trust me on that. >> Well, here's what scares me about this. The reason why I'm kind of bugging out on this topic, you might some people might say, Ashton, why are you going so deep into such a esoteric topic? I almost never do. >> Is that Well, I watched them teleport a Boeing 77, teleport it right out of the sky like it was nothing. And they're using technology that the public would think is a thousand years beyond where we're at. So far advanced that people are sure they're looking at aliens when they look at it. And now that I've decoded and I'm going like the people that figured this out, they've unlocked everything. They've already hit the singularity. Like you had to have hit the singularity. They're using AI to like fly those orbs around. And I think they use AI to cover up the leak. Like, so you're looking at it and I'm going, geez, man. What else do they have? If they're >> And if you can do that with an aircraft with so many souls on board, what's to say you cannot do that in a maturized fashion with one soul from one body to another? >> Yeah. I don't even know. And that's probably why if they have videos on the other side, they probably destroyed those the moment I started talking about these play because they they're almost certainly recording on the other side. You have to be if you're recording on that side, you're recording on the other side. Cuz what I want to know is a did that plane come out displaced at all? A in time, in location? Did people come out melded into the walls? Did people come out as zombies or did they come out like >> if the soul >> is the seat of consciousness? It's a big if. But if the soul is the seat of consciousness, then it would stand to reason that if you were to transduce or rather transport the soul from one body to another, that new physical body would experience the consciousness of the source. >> You could transfer it over. But here's the thing. If they have something like that, you would absolutely hide it. And everyone always wonders like if they have this, why aren't they using it? And why are why did they hide it? Well, they're not using it because they are hiding it. And because the whole point is it's a secret that's so dark and deep that you don't use this under unless it's extreme circumstance. You don't even use this to save people's lives. That's how that's how secret this technology is. And if the implications are living forever, like if that's one of the implications, you can see how you could easily say, "No, we can't reveal this no matter what. No matter what, no matter any conditions, it will upset the whole order of the world. People are going to start going full on uh purge mode, right? Being like, >> but there's a darkness to it if you really think of it >> because then what is the mind? How are the mind and the soul connected? If indeed the soul is the seed of consciousness and how does it operate in parallel with the mind? If the mind indeed is a transceiver of sorts, it has the ability to both transmit and receive data from let's say this quantum cloud of information that is within us and without us. most likely brought about by the super intelligence itself. Then >> how does the soul and the mind connect >> in one trans or rather transport the soul from one physical body to the other. >> Maybe that's what happened to the general. They uploaded him to a new body. >> Anyway, >> I could see it would explain his why he was freaking out. Yeah, that general I tell you the idea that he would just the one thing that comes to mind he was basically made an offer that nobody in their right mind would refuse. >> Yeah. Or maybe some people say imagine going to work every day >> doing exactly what you know you were born to do. Brother, would you have a Nobel Prize or that for the rest of your team? >> Natural or >> unnatural? Anyway, >> yeah. And this is what I get. This is how I know I've been excluded is that all they would have to do is just call me up. They don't have to do a big briefing, all this. I mean, I'm I'm a look, I'm a simple guy. I just like simple things. You just call me up. be like, "Ashen, can you just chill out on the teleporting plane stuff? This is the CIA. We're trying to keep that secret." I'd be like, "Oh, okay. My bad, guys." I'd be like, "I didn't I didn't know. I didn't know. You guys never told me. Never called me up." And nope. Nope. They got to be weird. Got to be weird about it. They got to do the nuclear weapons thing. Just not mention it, you know, not not ever address it. So, >> um, let me ask you some other questions. These are >> Yes, sir. >> Just this is actually just for my I want to know. Honestly, this one I want to know. Number one, is there a secret underwater alien base floating around in the water? >> Floating? >> Well, not floating, but like submerged like a sub by like a submarine like somewhere making alien. This is like the 4chan whistleblower. >> Why not, brother? >> 4chan whistleblower. >> You don't know this story? >> No, I don't. >> Okay. Wow. Here we go. So, so the story goes a for somebody got on 4chan and they started posting a lot of stuff that from a science perspective was like kind of checking out and their big claim was they were claiming they were like in the intelligence or I don't exactly remember what it was but somewhere in the military and they're saying that we know of some giant underwater UFO base maybe it's been here forever I don't know that makes UFOs like basically Star Trek replicates UFOs and then the UFOs go flying around for various purposes. And there's really no evidence for this. And it was the weirdest story I ever heard when I heard it a few years ago. Like nobody's ever said anything like this before. But that's kind of why I like it. So I just feel like I would just ask you straight up if you if you know about this since you're in the Navy. I have no such knowledge. But remember the great Sumerian epic of the Atraases. >> Mhm. >> The epic of creation at the behest of his son Marduk. It was the Anunnaki, God, quote unquote, little G, still creator N key, brother of Enlil, that along with a goddess named Ninma, also known as Mommy, as in mommy. Mama, why would she be known as mommy? Anyway, along with this goddess, they mixed the blood of a quote unquote lesser god, not an Anunnaki, but an egigi. Mix the blood of that lesser god, with clay, quote unquote. What would this clay be but uh genetic biioaterial to give rise eventually to us because they needed us for labor. Say say there is truth to the atraases. This is how we came about. say we are the creation of these Anunnaki which truly means a direct translation I believe Oxford translation from Sumerian princely offspring referring to the great god Anu it was Anu the Enlil and Eni let's call them the dark trinity En key was known as the god of the waters. His realm was the oceans, the seas. if you truly gave rise and and later on in this so-called um the flood stories and so so forth supposedly the Atraases is not the only Sumerian epic there were more there was the Anuma Alish the the book of creation say the Anunnaki there's some truth to it and key was lord of the waters while Enlil was the god of storms of heaven and earth. >> He is, let's say, what the Judans would later call Yah. I am who I am. WH uh YHW, the tetra grammar. >> Okay. And key his domain is the waters. What if there's another civilization that actually followed and key? Eni loved his creation. while while Enlil on several occasion want to do away with us, destroy us and key supposedly was able to calm him down and and convince him that we were of use. Well, say a certain civilization of humans decided to follow the great God and key. Yes, little G, but still the creator god down there into the waters. What do we know of our oceans? They cover more than 70% of the earth. We know hardly any thing of it. What if there's a civilization there? That's Enki was a great scientist engineer. Think what a civilization that followed him into the waters would have been able to achieve by now. while we that quote unquote follow and little that stayed on the ground and little didn't believe too much in in the prowess of human beings kind of just tolerated them every now and then you kill a lot of them >> so I'm hearing where there's going to be a way of the water sequel here anyway that we are potentially going to we're going to be having to go meet our brethren in the water pretty soon but no that so your belief is that we are essentially slaves that were created, biocreated by aliens, >> laborers of sorts. Uh by N's Eni never thought of us as slaves. >> See Eni, the creator god, it's very different than Enlil, his brother. Very different. What if the civilization that followed Eni into the waters is very different than us? does not have this quote unquote slave worship mentality and he did not want to be worshiped. He did not want to be followed. He believed in us having equal power to himself. Can you imagine a quote unquote God having those creative abilities being followed by say a fraction of us into the waters? Can you imagine what a civilization like that could become compared to whatever stood on the ground, whatever followed and little who didn't believe in the performance of human beings. So you think they didn't nec because why would they need us is the problem is like maybe just to entertain because otherwise if you have free energy if you have space-time manipulation time manipulation of time itself as you point out you shouldn't really unless you're bored what's the point of creating another intelligent civilization >> just an idea brother what if there is some truth to the atraases ask Georgiani what he thinks of the atraases what he thinks of the Samrian book of creation. >> I mean, I still think there's an underwater alien base. I'm going with it. That's just like that's the one thing like you said. >> I'm just saying those people. >> Those are the civilization that followed the creator, the real creator, >> not the one that wanted to kill us all. And eventually came to the understanding, oh, they could be good slaves. Let's use them. laborers, what not. >> So there are the ground dwellers, us, and there are the civilization that followed him, the creator, the true creator and key down there into the ocean. >> You think they're monitoring us to make sure? >> What if? I'm just saying what if? >> Okay. >> What if? So do you think they're monitoring us to make sure we don't to monitor our technology? Well, of course they monitoring us to make sure we're not going to [ __ ] use nukes and obliterate the Earth, cuz then that'd be gone, too. Maybe they have a Maybe they have a way, again, the idea of transmedium travel. Maybe they have a way to quickly gather their uh quote unquote trans medium craft and get the [ __ ] out in case the surface dwellers decide to take each other out with nukes. cuz that's what we capable of being endless minions. >> I would just I would eliminate the roaches if I had an infestation personally, but that's just me. Maybe that's the reason why I don't have super advanced technology. >> Yeah. >> Let me ask you, here's another different question. >> Check the hypothesis. >> Yeah. >> Does Pax River have an alien spaceship? Why was Congressman Berles talking about we got some serious? >> Not that I'm privy to. >> I don't brother. I I swear I would not even be on a podcast if I was ever showing anything like that. First of all, most likely I'd be whacked the moment I even have that thought. And most likely they would able they would have a machine that was able to read thoughts by now. I got to ask because there's some story about >> if they have a gun that can stop your heart, say someone sitting out there in a car, say even two, three miles away, they have what if what if other than remote viewing, they actually were able to come up with remote action to actually think of a certain individual and stop their heart. Remote action. >> That's an anime. It's called Death Note, actually. It's really good, by the way. You should check it out. Never heard of it, brother. This idea just came to me. If if remote viewing, why not remote action? And if remote action, given we are killers by human nature somehow. I'm pretty sure certain agencies would use that ability to snuff people out of existence. Unless, of course, you were in a certain Faraday cage. >> I'm sure they can. You just don't want to get caught using it. Get suspicious, right? So that's the only reason especially because nowadays we we we are talking about Havana syndrome and directed energy weapons. Maybe you could get away with it easier 20 years ago, but now it's going to be more and more difficult. But yeah, you could get away with it. They could take either of us out anytime they wanted. I've always been under that impression. I'm surprised at honestly. >> Easy. Maybe someone here's a different question. >> Maybe there they are the Georgian Johnny had this idea that they could be the white hats. You know, there could be internal warfare between certain, say, the childrens of the light and the sons of darkness, something of that nature. I mean, we call them that. We, you know, but what if they are camps and some of them are actually good guys, real good guys? Wouldn't you fight for someone that uh how should I say um upholds your ideas, says certain things about the way you think? Of course you would. >> For sure. >> Even to your own destruction, >> especially if you're one of Anki's people. >> Anyway, >> wouldn't surprise me if there's some kind of secret back and forth battle going on. That's one of the things I thought about the videos. I'm going, "This is so advanced. It makes me wonder if we're fighting aliens already. I mean, why else are we hiding? >> What if they're not aliens, but just a breakaway civilization? Again, one that followed and key us surface dwellers stuck with and little who kind of hates us and the ones that truly understood creation followed and key. Anyway, just an idea, man. Crazy. >> One more topic I want to chat with you about. Yeah, >> which is the legacy program. Everybody's talking about it. It's all the rage these days. UAP Gerb Ross Kohart Lu Alzando is being linked to the legacy program. Number one, do you think the legacy program is real? And then if number two, if so, what do you think the legacy program is exactly? >> Sure. Legacy program could be real. Legacy program could be again they did find the spacecraft just like Bob Lazar has mentioned not that it functions with the unoptanium or mascovium or uh of oranium or something you know but something stable something that they could mimic on earth and Um dude I I truly believe uh Kamla's group remember K I think they call themselves the Kab group and few sans Kamla him >> they knew [ __ ] they knew a lot of [ __ ] the Glocka I truly believe existed I think Dr. Joseph Ferrell. Dude, you got to have him on. This guy is so freaking brilliant. Between him, Georgian Johnny, you and me, that would be a killer pot. Most likely they would kill us all once cuz the combination of those ideas could be incredible. But again, that that quad would be incredible >> anyway. Yeah, >> on the I should probably ask about Cougal Blitz, too. That's a good point. Um, but on the legacy program, I guess this is the question is is the narrative that's kind of being sold to us, uh, is that there's a secret UFO program and then how Pudaf and Eric Davis and these other people that are part of ATIP and OAP were like trying to reverse engineer our own secret UFO program. Do you believe that narrative or here's an alternative narrative is they are >> I believe in the physics of a certain va I believe in the physics of a certain ra and you know the names remember >> all the [ __ ] is done by humans man I do not need some freaking little [ __ ] gray [ __ ] to tell me that I am of lesser intellect or whatn not than that piece of [ __ ] We are humans. We should be proud in our intellect and our ability to develop true >> [snorts] >> ingenuity. The greatness of people like Oliver Heavyside should be woripped. the people like um Maxwell, like uh again Gella, Rita, others, Tella, Fineman. These are the heroes of homo homo sapiens sapiens, not some [ __ ] great [ __ ] that I got to hear that some freaking sports model was done. And so even if these creatures exist, who gives a flying [ __ ] We have the ability to engineer this ourselves. Be proud of being homo sapiens sapien. We have true homo sapiens sapien tech. There's nothing wrong with our tech. We can develop this on our own. That's all. >> Sal's the first human nationalist. They call him an extremist. Chat. They call him an extremist for believing so too much in humanity. He believe the alien people hate him. They say no, he's a bigot. He hates the aliens. I say no. >> You got to remember who created us. >> The great Eni and the great Enma Ma, >> the Anunnaki created us. I truly believe this. You understand? And they were able to infuse certain of their trends. As a matter of fact, I have a feeling certain things were suppressed. For example, old age. We're only allowed to live 120 years. Why? Do you know who really we have to thank for? And little we have to thank for that the because before the flood supposedly there were humans that lived. Look at the king's list. The king's list showing people lived thousands of years. What if at one point in our genome? What if quote unquote certain chromosomeal characteristics of our genome where for example like crisper cast 9 using telomeres look how the telomeres unravel after a certain age? Why? Why are the ends of telomeres start to unfuse? Why? How? What if dad was engineered so that to make us mortal to to to give us and we have little to thank for cuz he hated us. Still does. >> Anyway, >> they put a expiration date on our bodies. I guess that's unfortunate. >> But maybe there's a good reason though too. I try not to be too skeptical on that front. >> Glory be to N key, brother. Glory. >> If I UAP Gerb is actually the one pushing this the most, which is the idea that National Security Council is like above all this legacy program thing, would that mean that the aliens of the breakaway civilizations working with like the executive branch of the government? Is that does that crazy? >> I don't know. I really don't know. I sometimes think that uh our government is subservient to something >> to something whatever that is I don't know [sighs] but definitely our physics our physics is so freaking >> purile >> compared to what can be >> well so that's pretty much all I wanted to ask you so let me just recap here especially for you know the congress person who may be watching the clip here, what have you, which is number one that you know the physics I think is the disclosure and I think you have shown it in your patents. Your patents are not disinformation or misinformation for anyone else that's out there. I think from a phys physics perspective, I'm not going to rehash what I've already said, but you know uh 0 point energy extra dimension, you know, that's the physics is out there. It's all in public uh site. You can read all physics papers including all of Paludov's work. And lastly, that S is not hiding from anybody. I mean, if he's afraid, he's only justifiably afraid like anyone would be talking about technology and and physics. That >> the only things I fear endless minions, a lot of them, and willing to do their masters bidden. >> But thank God there will certain of us are protected. I do believe that. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I appreciate you going out there. >> There's a war, brother. There's an unseen war between the sons of darkness and the children of the light. >> There's been for many, many, many, many, many, many eons. >> Okay. So, anything else you want to say? Anything you want to shout out before we close out for today? >> Congressman Bullison, if you listen to this, I hope you make it all the way to the chairmanship of the House. Armed Service Committee. I hope one day you decide to run for the Senate and you become the chairman of the Senate Armed Service Committee. When you do, please remember me. Give me a lab and team. You will not be sorry. That's all. Wow. Thank you. Uh let's go through I'm going to go through these super chats real quick. Uh we'll just see maybe there's a question or two in here. There's a bunch. But Zaparoo says, "Thank you, Ashton and S. Felony Physics Warriors. Better to be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war. I couldn't agree more." Thank you, Zaparoo. Zapariah. Those two of my longtime followers. Neto Monster says, "For Lulu and a great cause. Lulu's hanging out right down here listening, guys. Thank you very much." Voice forgood says, "You broke the mold for real." Walker, thank you very much, Voice for Good. Timothy Foster, another longtime follower. Two human minds using AI to facilitate our understanding of ZPE and technologies. Thank you, Ashton and S. Appreciate you. Appreciate you too. Timothy Foster, my channel says, "Great looking gray, I think." Oh, maybe about the aliens or maybe about your hair. I'm not sure. Mick Leonard JD says, "Two great men. Thank you for the courage." My channel, I don't know what this is. Nitsublin. Anyway, appreciate you. Voice for God. A time in space agend disappeared on my birthday. Oh, happy birthday. Appreciate you. >> Happy birthday, >> Broadway Line. Professor Forbes, thank you for the education. Thank you guys for being here and watching. We appreciate you. Kathy with a C. I'm curious to know if Dr. Pais is an Orthodox Christian. I know he's Romanian. God is the super intelligence in my honest opinion. And want to answer that? >> Yes. I was brought up as an Orthodox Christian. That's what I am to >> to my dying day. >> There we go. >> Yes. >> Uh Flojo Tube says the Wiles AJ said he wants S on his show. Well, if you want S on, you should reach out to him. May I don't depends on the size of show. You may have to reach out through the government, what have you, but he's uh not an impossible man to reach. I think you got shared connections. You can get his contact info. Timothy Foster says, "Use AIS, but no chip in no brain chip." It's scriptural, brothers. And that's that's interesting, too, is I think there's going to be that will, I think, have strife where you're going to have the religious side, which will be hardly again strongly against brain chips or any types of augmentation of the body. And then I think you'll have another side that'll be more open to it. Personally, I'm I don't know. I'm not against the idea at all. I just think it's going to be interesting seeing how the future in technology unfolds. Any thoughts on that? >> As long as it enhances, brother, the idea of uh outsourcing our intuitive physics as well as our intuitive analytical capabilities to the machine worries me. Now to use the machine to enhance those abilities. Yes, >> absolutely. That's what energy amplification is all about. But to actually have something put inside us, something that could one day be used against us or somehow control us. No, absolutely not. We are enough of a slave to begin with. Let's not augment that even more. Anyway, uh Dino Complier says, "Ash and Sab, bromance for life." Yeah, we've got some good combos for sure. Dog says, "Build subs. What other use for? You can find enormous long cylindrical pressurized tubes." Not sure what that's exactly all about, but appreciate you. Mike M. S, how do you really feel about the aliens? Yeah, we heard S. I think at first it was funny. I was afraid to ask you initially upon our first conversations and now you're you hate the aliens more than I do. I am just indifferent towards the aliens. S straight up keep the aliens away from S chat. Uh Wally West says Hal Pudof and Glenn Gaffne must be surface level gatekeepers to the breakaway civilization and the people that run it and has to start with Edward Teller's descendants, his son, daughter Paul Teller and Susan Teller plus legacy CIA. I don't know. Do you think that they Thank you very much huge for that huge super chat. Do you think they keep it in the family or do you think they don't risk that? I'm not sure about that. I could go two different ways. You know, nepotism can be >> knowing Teller Teller believed in merit. Brother, you you got to remember you got to remember this man's roots. He was Jewish and he was Hungarian. Very strong background, very strong ethnicity, very strong belief in the self. And quite possibly he he like us believed in the power of the homo sapiens sapiion. I believe if you were to ask Stella what he thought of these [ __ ] grey midgets, he'd be like, "Fuck them. We can do better." >> That's Stella genius. Bro, you don't need to keep that in the family. Teller was believed in meritocracy. That's why he picked Lazar. That's why he wanted Lazar to work for you know who. Who knows? Anyway, >> why keep it in the family? I mean, yeah, sure. If a certain genetic trait or a certain um power of communication is there within the child, then yes, why not also bring the child along? Sure. So, if his family was of the same genius mindset he was, sure, I say freaking make them all monarchs as far as I'm concerned. >> Interesting. Yeah, I think merit's the biggest thing. I like to think that it's merit, but uh >> well, we'll I mean, we'll find out when these files finally get revealed, but >> anyway, BC Warick, thank you for sharing your time on a Sunday. Remember, S has the power. Thank you, BC Warick. >> Got no power, brother. >> We got the power. We got the collective power. Remember, unite and fight against the darkness of the might. Unite and fight against the dying of the light. Because once the light of humanity goes out, brother can spark it back into the existence ever again. >> Beautiful words. Appreciate you, sir. >> Jeffrey, that sounds by the way that sound what you just said sounds almost exactly what Paul S said about fighting against keeping the lights on. >> He said something else too is that we have to keep the lights on because if the lights go out then >> I like Paul. >> He is such a wellnatured man. The dead man exuded goodness. There was something very beautiful inside Paul. Yeah. >> Like it was inside Paul Murad. Like it was inside David Froning. >> Let's not forget the grades, brother. >> No, >> they all fought for the same objective. Yeah. >> Thank God you exist because >> with you they'll never die. >> As long as you remember their name and their deeds, brother. That's true. immortality of name and deeds [ __ ] the physical body. Yeah. Anyway, >> that's why I do what I do. That's why I do what I do because these these live streams, this content will live on longer than anything else. Even if people don't believe now, 50 years, 20 years, 100 years, who knows? >> To you, my brother, to you. >> To you, you do a great service for humanity. One day, I hope you will be thanked for it. You give platform to the voices otherwise would not be heard. That's the truth. >> I ask Yeah, I ask for nothing in return though. But last couple super chats, Jeffrey Swanson says, "Don't you think we can just connect like Bluetooth?" He's talking about our soul. I think there's more to be discovered, of course. But it certainly opens up the possibility. So, keep your eye on the keep your eye out for that. We'll see. People are talking about living forever. We'll see what they uh what they present. And then lastly, Chaotic Good says, "Great episode. Let's go." Thank you guys. MH370X. I appreciate you guys. I know S does. Any last thoughts, S? >> I love your audience, brother. They're all all my brothers and sisters, all and thank you for your existence, Ashton Forbes. Thank you for you. And I tell you right off the bat, we are always going to be true brothers. Anyone that speaks against you speaks against me and [ __ ] them cuz >> I got your back too. >> I hate my enemies just as much as you do. Anyway, take it easy, guys. Have a good day. Enjoy your day. Later everybody.