Sky Fire News Weekly - AARO Report UFO Discussion

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# Sky Fire News Weekly - AARO Report UFO Discussion The last sliver of hope vanished in an instant. Malaysia's prime minister announced today that flight 370 went down in the Indian Ocean and all 239 people on board are dead. Most of the circumstantial evidence I believe points towards an abduction of this plane. I don't know why and I don't know by who, but I'm I'm convinced that that plane was taken by Hey guys, how's it going tonight? Hope we're doing well. Uh that's probably a little too loud, huh? Uh oh. Why is it so loud? I don't know. Anyway, guys, uh maybe we'll join Green Street Space if he's still going. Uh I don't know what's going on. Um, the Skyfire space. Maybe because they did it earlier, they're not doing it uh tonight. Not sure. See what we can find out here. Uh, Stephen Green Street. How's everybody doing tonight? Hopefully, we're doing well. Looks like you guys did not enjoy my uh video game stream. Oh, Stephen Green Street is going. He's popping off. Here we go. Here we go, guys. Oh, average Chris is up there. A lie. It's just their version of reality. Latsky strikes me as someone who's like a true believer. Um, all right. Uh, Lou Angelus, hit me. Why don't I hear anything? Oh, hey. Um, so I I just wanted to comment on you on what you said a little earlier about, oh, it's weird to get banks and the basic journalism aspect of this, but man, stepping back, I mean, oh, it's a bunch of douchebags. A few hours to explain the complexity. Now, the volume's maxed out. It's really loud. You got to check your volume on your side. goes. And you might think of it as basic journalism, but honestly, man, it it was one of the main reasons why. Yeah, that game was fun. I'm gonna definitely play that later. Did a 180 on the topic primarily because of your reporting and, you know, our discussions behind the scenes and stuff. So, I, you know, Oh god, these guys are absolute losers. Holy crap. short like that or or um I don't know not not uh you know I I understand begrudgingly we got lure reviews and average Chris and Steven Green street chat yikes will be looked at in a few years I mean it took you know the yeah it just it takes too long sometimes for people to catch I might as well just monologue right like what's the point of listening to these guys I think in a few years considered insanely valuable because people are going to come back and go oh [ __ ] lure reviews are just an embarrassment and I think you're appreciate that. I hope so. I mean, I spent a I spent a [ __ ] [ __ ] amount of time on it. No, I know. I I know you did. Well, I Here's the things that I took away from the report. The first thing that I think is very encouraging is that our military pilots are confusing. In some cases, not all cases, but in some cases, they are confusing our new hardware for Alien Craft, which tells me, I mean, [ __ ] man. Maybe we have kind of broken through as far as uh some sort of new tech uh is concerned. And I think that's pretty exciting. And I think that's a neat story. What's your take on that? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm glad you brought that up. Um, and again, you know, like the uh Hey guys. Hey everybody. Hey, we're at three conscious energies. Give me a second. These pilots, a lot of these, you know, these pilots, I don't think these pilots are liars. I think they believe they saw something otherworldly or something very, very strange that they couldn't explain. I don't think these military witnesses are just make well at le I don't know maybe that guy with the where was it where he touched the football size I don't know but most of these guys most of these people they seem like they legitimately experienced something saw something but and I initially uh with the New York Times okay so now I can't even barely listen to these guys man um sorry We I had it on uh not on full screen there. Uh I can barely listen to these guys. They're just such morons. Like now they're going to say they think they they they saw something. Like these are the idiot debunkers, right? Who think that the pilots are lying and now they're doing a full 180 and claiming, "Oh yeah, maybe the pilots did see some advanced technology, but it was just our advanced technology." Are you Are you guys freaking kidding me, man? Are you kidding me? These are the same people are trying to debunk us when we're literally talking about that we've got US advanced technology. Guys, I'm just going to throw it out there. Uh, all the people that are in this space are [ __ ] morons and I've been trying to tell them that we've got technology that is advanced technology, right? Uh, I don't even really care what people in the UFO community believe anymore. Uh, because whatever, man. It's just it's such a [ __ ] show uh with these people that it just doesn't even bother me uh if they what they believe and what they don't believe, right? And this is why I stepped away from the case because these people are just unhinged. They're mentally unstable. Uh and and this is everybody on all sides, man. And uh the reality is whatever. We're just going to abuse and and and profit off the technology, right? If you were smart, you invested in uh semiconductor stocks 6 months ago when we started this investigation when we found out that superconductivity had already been figured out. And if you look at semiconductor stocks, you'll see that they're up like a huge amount. Like 40 to 100%. Right? Like Nvidia is worth $2 trillion, guys. $2 trillion is what Nvidia is worth. Does that sound like a reasonable amount of money for a graphics card producer? No. because they're producing superconductive microchips for uh quantum computers, right? That's why they're worth so much money. This is not investment advice, but just want to let you guys know that. My god. Okay, let's listen to some Miller's crap. Thread into that. When the mil when DARPA and the military get together and create some groundbreaking technology, they don't send a, you know, departmentwide email saying, "Hey, FYI, everyone in the government, this exists." Like they don't do that. Only a select few like know that thing exists. And so random pilot A flying his F-18 off of whatever ship off Georgia probably hasn't been read into that. And so if he looks off in the distance and 50 miles away they're coming some separate test over there. I could see how he could go wait what the hell is that? and then come back and not get answers because he's not read in, you know, like so it's like no one's really at fault there. But the problem is is you have these activists who are taking advantage of that confusion and of that, you know, that story and they're they're appropriating it and taking it to mean aliens or otherworldly or interdimensional. and they're using it as a you know to platform themselves. The thing with those activists that you mentioned is that they all have they also are the only ones who have access to the guys that have stopped. Guys, there's like two competing spaces going on. And I hate both sides, right? You've got the green street lure reviews like [ __ ] PTSD wannabe CIA Chris in one the debunkers and then you've got the Cosmic Dalia UAP Mike like true believers on the other. Right. Neither of them have any concept of what the what is like what UFO is even about, right? Like they're they're all in it. All both of these sides are all just in it for the freaking drama, right? None of these people have any concept of the science. That's the funny part is nobody on either side has any concept of the science and what's and what's possible. That's what I think is just so embarrassing about the UFO community and why it's just such a [ __ ] show. Uh, I'm going to just pop off on these people, honestly. With drones, uh, a thing that was jaw-dropping to me was during the, uh, St. Patty's Day parade in New York City, which is a huge event in New York City. Um, a Post reporter and named Kevin Shehan, I should give him credit, caught this and dug into it. Um the uh the NYPD was speaking to the press and speaking to the public and at the very end they said please don't fly any drones. It was the last thing they said and they emphasized it. Um and she went up and was like why the emphasis on that? And basically it's because the NYPD at the time had no jurisdictional power over stopping drones, investigating incursions of drones. And it was like, well, who does? And it's like, the Department of Justice and the FAA. Well, is the Department of Justice and FAA going to be in New York City during the St. Patty's Day parade? Probably not. So, the NYPD kind of had its hands tied. And it was just scary kind of to think about that New York City, there was a guy in Time Square who got on top of like a 8 foot quadcopter and sailed around. He He was standing sailed around Time Square. Yeah. I I can barely even listen to these guys, man. These guys are just terrible. Um, so my options are either this terrible space or the other terrible space with cosmic dollar UAP Mike Nick Gold. This guy is like CNN brain patient zero, right? Literally thinks that aliens are visiting us, but uh them faster than light travel can't be possible because he hasn't heard it on CNN. Uh, as well as Carlos Danger is like one of the most unhinged nut jobs in all of UFO Twitter. Um, and then Kent Reynolds is a guy who's got like I don't even know how many issues this man has, but literally thinks tried to claim to podcasters that I stole his information, which guy is just complete cuckoo cuckoo in in for Cocoa Puffs. Like, man, I don't know, guys. Uh, I can't stand the UFO community. I really have I this is why I don't want anything to do with it. It's just all terrible on all sides. Nobody on either side gives a crap about the science or what's possible or what's not. Uh they all just want to talk past each other, right? Like you've got literally two different factions that are both in their own space and nobody's talking to one another. Kind of feels like we need our own space for this. It's just so garbage. Melon, you know, hey, alien girl. Do you think welcome to Friday night? the intention of bringing not only the DoD's attention to it but cities like New York and you know metro big metropolitan areas you think uh DVOS I I can't access that link because it's behind Fox News sort of like a puppet show to actually get the right people's attention on this stuff maybe we will just start our own space and talk about MH370 this is just terrible I know what you're saying of it yeah like what is there a chance that all of this UFO post stuff was just a kind of like hiddenhand uh way to kind of like promote a actual important real issue. I have thought about that but you know um I think I initially perhaps thought that but like the folks some of the main folks here the I just no I can't say that I I just their actions just both publicly and behind the scenes and privately so terrible don't speak to that there are a lot of people with actual real selfish dubious motivations um involved in this, you know, and it's I'm going to say religion, but it's the same with every religion. You have within that religion, you have your like power- hungry people who don't give a [ __ ] and they just want power and money, and then you have like your group of true believers. Hey, Arwin. Hey, Amanda. and they're they're the ones like gripping the cross and like they're they're ready to go, you know, to bat for Jesus. And you have like this dichotomy. You got total idiots and then we've got true believers group of UFO believers. It's like the same thing. You've got like your powerful narcissists and then you've got your like true like real honest to god believers, you know, like Eric Bard for example at Skinwalker Ranch. Yeah. Let's see what people want to do. You guys want to do your own space? know that like I spent an entire talk about whatever the hell we want to talk about. someone who's vi he's just true believer true true true I don't see him playing any real games you know uh whereas someone like Alzando my opinion just strikes me as someone who is trying to win you know um who's just trying to uh that there there are dubious motivations there I I think some of them have been established in my reporting some perhaps in others reportings I mean I the Jeremy Jeremy McGawan on the on on the space here. He's written his personal experiences. It's a so I don't think so. I don't think there's some like secret ploy here. And in fact, I think the government I think there is a cover up. You know, these people are the debunkers are now saying there's a cover I was talking to some UFOs the other day and I was like, "Look, we may not agree that it's aliens, but we can at least agree that there's a cover up uh to some degree." And I can't believe Steen Green Street right now. I mean, that's nothing new. It's not like military-industrial complex started suppressing and controlling information yesterday. That's just like what happens. But I personally believe that there has been a muddying of the waters with regards to Thank appreciate foreign adversaries sometimes with impunity or the debunkers are now saying that there's a cover drones and balloons over American airspace both the continental US and our interests overseas. Yeah, he literally said that little to no push back or ability to push back and this is scary stuff. Um you know look at the Paulo Verde nuclear facility in Arizona. swarms of drones capturing god knows what intel and the facility had no counter UAS abilities and there was this like confusion like wait what do we do what's going on what are these things where did they come from nobody knows and they're gone and it's like this has been going on off the coast of California going on everywhere is this China is this Russia is this you know down by the Arizona border is it the cartel is the cartel via Yeah. Uh, let's check out the other space for a couple minutes and then if that's awful, I'll take a look and we'll just start our own. I can see a lot of people want to do our own space. We'll probably get booted out of this space up front because I really really want to participate, but I forgot I had an appointment for a massage which I really need badly. Um, no, it's okay. You know, I tell you I screwed up my back today. Does everybody in these spaces have a [ __ ] soundboard? Uh um but I did I I I did have some questions I wanted to ask and I talked to Carlos about this because I think they're at an NBA game. I do want to fight back in a sense in a very legal and a very appropriate way. The only comment I have for now before I'm before I arrive at my appointment is that um I have she's going to get a massage. I chose not to read it because I know that when I read it, I'm going to be really mad and I want to be ready to channel my energy with my application to the law review journal because I anger in my application and um I want to wait. I don't even know what these people are even talking about. Um Carlos can describe what that process is like um if I have to um hang up um and go to my appointment. And I'm hoping that when I get out of my appointment, you guys are still going. Um but I Out of her appointment, where is she going? Is she going to a brothel? Kpatrick would not survive. It's 9:40 p.m. on the East Coast. Got a Nephie would have gotten kicked out of school. Nothing's open. So, um she's going to get a massage at this time. Uh the the minimum level of analysis that's necessary to draw a conclusion um based on what I've heard is completely absent. Arwin, you don't know what a sound is, even for a scientist. And I I am dead. Oh, look. We got Nicholas in the chat. Serious. Huge douchebag. This guy and his wife. total [ __ ] losers citable documents that will be citable in a court of law for 2 years of fighting back. I'm done with that. Okay, you guys remember that yesterday or was that even yesterday, guys? This woman has a complete [ __ ] meltdown when I call her by her first name, which is Carly Ray. She acts like I had just shot her or something. Like she screeched like a harpy. like what was mentally wrong with this woman where she's sitting there gaslighting everybody for like 10 minutes straight. I join the speaker panel and she's talking about how she doesn't want to be on the speaker panel because I'm on there and I call out her [ __ ] gaslighting her and her disgusting husband and call her by her I address her by her name, her actual birth name. And she has a complete and total meltdown. complete and total meltdown. And they act like I have gone and killed somebody, right? These are the same disgusting [ __ ] who are sitting here trying to say that I'm a crazy person and defaming me and this Nicholas nut job is like talking about me non-stop while having me blocked. And to them, the bigger agre uh uh egregious uh offense is to call them by their first name. These people have no connection to reality whatsoever. No connection. Nicholas and his wife Carly Ray, the rest of these UFO people, whatever. They have no connection to reality, right? Like it's the UFO community is an absolute shitow. It's really what it comes down to, right? Yeah. Ray Ray was Carly Ray. I'm not going to say her last name so that she doesn't melt down anymore on me because, you know, people watch the streams or whatever and they clip them and do all kinds of crap. Uh but this is the problem with the internet in general is that there's no there's no accountability. These people don't want any accountability for the things that they say and the things that they do. They want to [ __ ] on other people and they don't want anybody else to be able to [ __ ] on them back. And the moment you do, they have they literally have nut job meltdowns. These are literally insane people. I mean this literally. They're literally mentally ill and they actually need psychiatrists to help them out. Like most of the people in this community, unfortunately, and this is why nothing ever happens. Like every day it's like this. The embarrassment of it is that like even the streaming community, the video game community is not even this bad. Like you've got in the UFO community, you've got criminals, you've got psychopaths, you've got the worst [ __ ] out there, right? Man, it is disgusting, you know? And then for some reason, all these UFO celebrities latch on to these troll [ __ ] too, you know? Like, I'm sick of all of them, man. They're all losers. And there's no surprise whatsoever. They've never accomplished anything, right? No surprise. So, we're going to break through the [ __ ] Um, that's going to be what we do cuz the reality is it's just not it's not productive all this crap that they're doing, right? So, God, it's embarrassing, man. Anyway, uh, I guess we're going to do our own space. Whatever. Here we go. Uh, I actually kind of need to get some food, but I guess I can just do that later tonight. So, whatever. Uh, I think we'll do our own space. We'll maybe just talk [ __ ] about all of them and talk about MH370 since it's the retirement day and whatever else you guys want to talk about. ARO and all the other stuff. Um, but yeah, the the soundboards are like little buttons you press and they play as like flushing sounds and fart sounds and like all these losers have like their soundboards queued up because they're like eight years old, right? It's again just complete embarrassment on all sides. Um, nobody in this community has any idea what the hell they're doing. You've got morons like average Chris who like have he has obviously nothing going on in his life, like no job or anything, right? And he just spends all day tweeting at people and thinking that he's smarter than other people and like trying to save other people, which I mean, my god, man. My god. and Lur Reviews. I mean, Lurus is literally a failed actor who is now like a wannabe UFO community type person, right? And his takes are just egregiously bad, right? He has no concept of science. He can't even form a coherent sentence. He can't form a coherent argument. His arguments are, "You didn't agree with what was said on the TV. Oh, you're a bad person." And and just nothing but hypocrisy from these people. And then on the believer side, they just play fart sounds and uh and flushing sounds, right? And then they just scream at you and have their little clicks like they're wannabe mean girls. And of course they all hate Keemstar cuz he's somebody coming in and saying screw all this [ __ ] right? And they all hate it because it threatens their little hierarchies that they've established. It's my god, man. Um, so let's go ahead and talk about the ARO stuff. We will uh look into uh we'll look into the stuff that was posted today. We'll I guess look about U talk about UFO. I'll let anyone who wants to speak on the panel jump up or whatever. Um it'd be nice if some of you guys jump up. I mean, a bunch of you guys voted for our own space. So, some of you guys better jump up on the panel, otherwise I'm just going to end it early. So, I'm going to start my own my own space up right now. Hold on. Uh, first I'm going to search for any other spaces that might be going on that we might have missed. How do I search for spaces? Doesn't even let me search on this. Okay. Create your own space. Uh, UFO news and a report. neutral space. I'm going to call it neutral space because some of their SS crap is just awful, man. Uh, what does allow incognito mean? Sure, you can allow incognito. Um, okay. We just started our own space chat. Here you go. Uh, I'm going to copy the link if you guys want to join. See if we can get anybody to join our space here, chat. Oh, okay. We already got some people up in this business. Here we go. Taco Loco. Let's get Taco Loco up, chat. Let's get Taco Loco up. Let's see if Arwin wants to speak. Uh, you know, whoever wants to get up on this business. Oh, Arwin jumped up because we we were trying to talk to Taco Loco before, right? T= MC². Let's get you up. Anyone who wants to talk. Hey everybody in the space right now. So if you were uh joining our stream and you saw us uh streaming, we decided to start our own space cuz I was jumping between the uh Steven Green Street space and jumping between uh the the Mike space and um both of them are just kind of garbage. And I actually want to talk about the stuff that matters related to this ARO revelation and what your guys thoughts are. So here we are in this uh space. Uh T equ= MC squared. Man, how's it going? Do you have anything to say? Good, good. How you doing, Ashton? Can you hear me? Okay. Yeah, you sound great, man. How's it going? Good, good. Um so I just uh that space that you were referencing the other day was was it was probably the most psycho thing I've ever heard. I was sitting there and I was just listening and I was like I can go down to downtown Portland right now and probably find serer people that than thatation. Um but I wanted to just uh bring up one thing. I have never heard anybody talk about it but it's actually like kind of crazy. the uh have you guys seen have you guys like either heard of or seen the uh 2003 Stephen Spielberg produced miniseries called Taken? Um it was actually starring Dakota Fanning when she was like really little. And in the first episode there's a crazy scene. It's like right out of the gate. the first episode within the first two minutes they have a uh a plane being dis being teleported by four orbs. Yeah, I've seen it. It got posted on uh one of the Reddits early on and people were loving it in general. Cool. So, you've seen it. So, real quick, like that was in 2003. I mean, yeah. Do you think that's like art imitating life or life imitating art? I mean, it just seems so similar to the kind of the videos and and this whole conversation. I mean, yeah. I mean, like there's a lot of stuff like that, you know, and a lot of people are looking for meaning in stuff. And if anything, uh, at best, what I would say is that uh, yeah, it's it's life imitating or art imitating life, right? And and sometimes people say it's stuff like predictive programming in general, but uh, I don't think people can really see the future. I think it's just a matter of what happens is that uh the science that's out there, people extrapolate on what could be possible, right? So people that are like TV producers, writers, etc., they look at the science um that's publicly available and they extrapolate it to what it could mean. And that means that sometimes people do stuff that's never going to be scientifically accurate, but sometimes they do stuff that is scientifically accurate. And like you see in Taken, Lost, Manifest, all these other shows as well, like the idea of time travel is not some novel concept, right? the idea of having orbs out there. I mean, they're all over the place right now. What that means with respect to MH370 and the videos, um, you know, I think that we have just have to be cautious and not try to look to try to connect everything that's out there. Um, it probably just means that people saw some videos. I totally see that point, right? It just seems like awfully coincidental that a plane on fire is literally teleported, right? Like the thing is is is literally smoking, right? It's almost like Stephen Spielberg produced that thing. I mean, he's already got connections to the whole, you know, advanced technology, you know, UFO debates. I mean, maybe and, you know, to your to your to your points about the Philadelphia experiment on one of the streams that you did a couple weeks ago, you know, if this technology is a lot older than we originally maybe had thought. Who knows who knew what when, but that's really all I wanted to bring up. Just real quick, thought I'd kick us off. I mean, you seem like you kind of want some speakers, so I thought I'd jump in. Yeah. No, I appreciate you jumping in to speak. And yeah, definitely. I mean, I think that even going all the way back to what was it like Close Encounters of the Third Kind with Stephen Spielberg, right? Like people people definitely I think know some stuff and uh they kind of profit off it no matter if that's through the science, patents, or just through entertainment, right? Um, and that's why I'm looking forward to that that movie that's coming out, right? Called uh was it the threebody problem, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have a feeling there's going to be some weird stuff in there. And I Well, I always tell you guys everything that I can tell you until they put me under an NDA, which they still have not. So, um, like Interstellar as well, right? That was the first time I was introduced to Time Dilation. I didn't even know what time dilation was before then, right? That's a movie that when I saw that I went, "Holy [ __ ] can that be is that real?" And you go look it up and you're like, "Oh, that is real." Right? And you're like, "Wow, okay." And you find out that like they uh it was like Christopher Nolan, right? And he had talked to some scientists about like what black holes would really look like and what the sc how the science should really work, right? And it makes you wonder like is he talking to like DoD contractors or like other government scientists and that and that's how they know this stuff's real. um it wouldn't surprise me at all because the same thing's happening to me like right now when we talking about these videos is all of a sudden people want to talk to you and they want to be like oh yeah you're on it like this this is it right this is how it really works in the real world um and so that's how the stuff leaks out there and same with like the movie Tenant what I'll say about the movie Tenant you guys if you guys have been watching my streams like last week we were sitting there trying to figure out like can you break causality you know and I think the answer is like you can't but um I've been talking to some of those same scientists that I've had on my podcast and stuff and I'm sitting there like having private conversations with them going like can we can we actually break causality right because if you watch like especially the Salvador Pas and Dave Rossi combined hard truths they start talking about stuff like the Mandela effect and when I was sitting there listening to it I'm like nah these guys are nah these guys are like pushing it too far into esoteric right and now I'm going hm maybe not like if you can move faster than the speed of light like maybe string theory is the answer. Maybe we can somehow impact the past. Uh and then the question is like what does retrocausality really mean? Does it mean that we will perceive that change? Like was there really a cornucopia on Fruit of the Loom? I'm not sure. But we can chat about it you guys. And anyone else who wants to jump up and chat, feel free. Go ahead. The uh a thought just came to me when when you were just speaking there. I forget who it was, but somebody was talking about how I think it was either dark energy or dark matter was the increasing complexity of the system that yeah, it can't be seen but can be measured. Um yeah, that was um uh Roy Herbert. So Roy Herbert has dilation theory, right? And interesting about talking about Roy Herbert and I'm actually planning on talking to Martin Gibson who's his counterpart who's on the math side uh this weekend. I I've just got to book it. I've just been with all this stuff been going on. It's been crazy. But um and I want to talk to him about his unification theory. But the thing I love about Roy Herbert is so he's a theoretical physicist. And when you guys when we listen to these guys, you have there's like you've got the theoretical physicists and they're the ones who kind of conceptually understand how the universe works, right? And then you've got the engineers and they look at the problems a little bit differently. The engineers are the ones that are going, "Okay, here's a floaty craft. Like, how do I make it float, right? And what do I have to do? And how do I verbally explain and mathematically explain the equations that will allow that to happen?" And the the physicists are the ones that are like trying to simplify it, trying to logically explain how to make it intuitive. So Roy Herbert, the thing I love about him is this idea that complexity can cause gravity. So that even on very very small scales like the quantum scales the more complexity that we get that causes like minute amount of gravity but you know it kind of adds up and that the more complexity then then we this can account for dark uh matter which is the stickiness in our galaxy. So the more complex even a galaxy we get the more stickiness that you're going to have. I I I personally love that idea. I think that's a great unification theory. Um but I still don't know how it kind of fits in with what the engineers are saying. you know, the Salvador piouses and and the Dave Rossis. But that's that's totally fair. I I guess I just I feel like there might be a connection between that concept and the concept of like the longer the string, the more complex Yep. Uh you know, those two things seem like they might are awfully similar in concept at least. But who the hell am I? Yeah. And the people who are listening right now too, like that doesn't that's not the same as string theory if you're curious. Like string theory is more of the idea where if we can have some type of retrocausality, you know, how would we prevent some of these paradoxes that can occur? And the answer is well, you can have like these different string uh timelines or dimensions or whatever, right? Universes even where it's like if you change the past, then you're you're basically branching off your universe into a separate universe, right? Which is to me that's hard to wrap my brain around. Uh but I think that's kind of where some of this might be going. Gotcha. Cool. Well, I'll uh let others jump on and we'll just leave you with a prediction. I don't think this space is going to devolve into name calling and fart noises. So, excited about I hope not. And we'll see how long we go. We'll just go until it gets boring. Um cool. Thanks, Ashton. Yeah. Thanks, T equals MC Squared, man. Appreciate you, buddy. Uh Taco Loco, I know that you were trying to get into the speaker spot uh before we shut down yesterday. Did you want to jump on say anything? Uh, I was just going to mention that um, for people kind of new to this, and I'm sure there's a lot of them, there's a there's a YouTube channel called Beneficence TV, and they've got a couple of overview sort of sciency videos that with a lot of this like Bob Grer stuff, uh, and some of the other stuff related to this. Uh, they kind of take you from zero to to that and and and give a good overview. And I thought that that would be something for people to look at. And you know, then the other thing that I would just say appropo of all the uh um crazy stuff as we flip this one rock over, you know, this MH370, I've kind of been studying this since I was a kid back in the 70s and uh ended up having firsthand experience with some of this in the Navy. And like, you know, when you get into the Philadelphia experiment, you watch some of those old Alick videos and Duncan Cameron and and and the other guys involved, I I mean, I understand what they're talking and, you know, if if it's not real, it's the greatest LAR ever. Um, I mean I don't understand exactly all the nuts and bolts on it, but they keep coming back to the same stuff that we're touching against that we all came to from a completely different direction. Be it either MH270 or like the free energy thing we've been working on for years with Bob Grineer P and F on the cold fusion. You see all the fingerprints intelligent community trying to shut it down and uh um you know the same consistency you know the sacred geometry popped up. The other thing I'll I'll mention and then I'm going to shut off is you know think about the Philadelphia think about Manhattan project you know okay that was about the atom bomb and everyone was like oh you know the government could never keep a secret look at the you know the hat project uh well they did keep that secret until they didn't and what else were they working on these greatest minds up there there's plenty of evidence that Oenheimer was in on you know the area and stuff and a lot of other guys there's a guy named Sarbarker that was a peer of Oenheimer's that said, "Oh yeah, we've had him. We looked at him. You know, we saw." And then he after the second time you reported, he died very mysteriously with some kind of goop on his car door handle. So, um there there's just too many smoking guns out there. But as you get higher and higher into this stuff, it does get a cult. And a cult just means hidden. And I I think people need to realize that before they reflexively go away from it. This is hidden physics. I mean, if you showed an iPhone to somebody 50 years ago, they'd be thinking, you know, radio 100 years ago, whatever, maybe a little more than like ger germ theory, too, right? I mean, well, and I mean, I'm not even gonna open that kind of work, but No, I'm not saying that anything like like co or anything, but like, you know, 300 years ago, 200 years ago, you know, you'd have to convince somebody that an invisible molecule or whatever or series of compounds and molecules can make them sick and kill them. Yeah. Or not. I mean, that's the thing is there we're still not talk back then, they were talking about the energetic aspect of it. I mean all the we we we keep finding over and over with the MFMP that like we've gone the hard way and saw through and say, "Oh, this is the way the forces flow and blah blah blah." And I'm like, "Oh my god, it's just like the picture on this palace wall from, you know, 10,000 years ago." And it's like showing it. There's no way it's a coincidence. And um we we think about it as like we're so materialist now. uh what does cause you know they say oh well this hormone does that or this germ does that well what causes the psyia on the bacteria that's supposedly killing you to move the whole energetic aspect it's there's something different yeah and so just to kind of bring it back to I guess what the space is called with the a report right so this a or a ar a which is the all domain anomaly resolution office report came out uh I don't think that it included my report I think that it was just stuff from before. Um, but I I will be curious to find out if it is or not. I still haven't got an email back. I did end up emailing the person who uh contacted me uh about a few days ago and they came out and said, "Oh, there's nothing anomalous going on. We looked into everything. We have access to everything and we found that there's no aliens going on here and it's just they're getting confused between US classified information, right? And I don't really know how to take this in general cuz I know that there is actually advanced technology that they're hiding. So you could say that you could interpret this as okay, we don't have any proof that there's aliens or alien crafts, right? Uh but that doesn't mean there's not advanced technology because obviously there is going to be secret technology. It's just a matter of how advanced is it? And I'm sitting here saying it's so advanced that we can teleport objects. Um and and I don't we don't we just don't know, right? But I think the other part of it is this is that this they clearly don't have access to thirdparty contractors. I know for an absolute fact that there are defense contractors uh and and engineers and scientists that are going to labs that are run by these third party DoD contractors. They have to sign NDAs when they go in there. These uh ARRO would have no access to them whatsoever. um and that you know they would have no idea what they're those people are working on right if we theoretically had let's say Roswell for 1947 gotten a UFO and we gave it to the third party contractors then ARRO is not going to have any idea about it so this is the part where it's like I don't know what to make of this report in general it but it just feels like [ __ ] no matter how you look at it uh because of that like that view on it right they don't have access to the things that they need to have access to to figure it out so Um, here's your thoughts. Conflict of interest, right? I mean, you're trusting them to investigate themselves. Yeah. I don't trust the government to investigate themselves at all, right? Like they have no incentive to share the accurate information even if they were, you know, they did have it, which to your point, they probably don't. And look at it this way, like let's go back to the Manhattan Project, right? If it was 1944 and we were demanding that the government review and tell us about the advanced technology they have, is that government agency going to come out and say, "Yeah, we just made nukes, guys." No, they're not going to say that cuz they want to they need to drop it to win a war, right? It's the most classified information that's out there. They're never going to admit it until they drop the bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, right? And the Philadelphia experiment happened in 1943, which was two years before we dropped the bomb, right? So, if they have some kind of weapon that is well beyond what a nuclear weapon is, some kind of doomsday weapon or technology that's equivalent to that, right? They're not going to admit that. And they're certainly not going to admit where it came from either. So, this is the part where I look at it and I go, this is just kind of circus and peanuts for the masses, right? To keep people entertained. What are your guys thoughts? Prefontaine, I see you in there, too, as well. Do you have something you want to speak up? And since we don't have any speakers, you guys can just feel free to just chime on in whenever you want to. Otherwise, I'll just open pine. I don't even know why they would even release this report. I don't know how anyone would even take this serious at all. It just seems like I hate the word scop because it's used so often in so many bad contexts in the in this conversation. Not just this one, but all of efology. Uh but it just seems like it's just a the whole thing is a waste of time. you know, you're really just trusting that the offender is going to investigate themselves. And then, you know, I think to your someone's point earlier, it might have been my brother or whatever. On the one side, they're coming out with the 2017 video saying, "Oh, they're real, right? This is these are, you know, real UFOs." Then they come out now and they're like, "Oh, there's no there's no evidence of a cover up." It's like, well, those videos didn't like stream real time, so somebody decided to suppress them for some amount of time. And that's well known that they've suppressed they suppressed those videos as well as probably hundreds of others. Yeah. What are we supposed to think that we're looking at in that video? Like, we're definitely not looking at a jet flying away like Mick West is saying, right? Like, I don't need uh advanced computer models and the weird stuff that he's doing to know that I'm not looking at the engines of a jet in that video, right? It's obviously something that doesn't have standard propulsion mechanisms. It's obviously rotating, not consistent with the clouds rotating. Um, you know, is this a drone from China? Like, I just don't get what they want us to believe in some of this stuff. Uh, and this is the part too where what I want to say to everybody out there, whether or not you are on the believer or the skeptic side, like they are never going to admit that this stuff is real, right? They're never going to disclose this technology is is a sad state. And I know a lot of people here are supporters and what have you, but there's a lot of haters out there. And what I would say to the haters, too, is that this should hopefully prove that the MH370 stuff was not distracting from anything else. There was nothing getting accomplished, right? Like it's just more obfiscation, uh, more denials of the stuff that's out there. And if anything, like this report, in my opinion, sets stuff back because this hurts like the normie brain people out there. Uh, and they're going to go, "Oh, nope. this report came out that said there's nothing out there, nothing special, right? It's going to get misinterpreted as like, nope, there's nothing special at all about there, nothing hidden, you know, when it doesn't necessarily mean that. I mean, they also leaked a flying jellyfish like a month ago. What even is that? I still don't even know what the hell that thing is, man. Dude, I don't know. All I know is that's like it's a pretty lame version of War of the Worlds, but it's not scary to me at all, but it's weird looking. It didn't scare me. I mean, I guess maybe up close if it was like trying to like, you know, capture me in a pen or something, but I I I I just don't I think they're just trying to confusion and chaos, right? And like so that nobody knows what to believe and that so that also so that stories like MH370 where MH370 is the best example of a um a situation where you actually have verifiable information, right? Everything else is like, "Oh, I saw an orb in the sky, right? Uh oh." Like this video is this thing was turning. Great. It was moving fast. Or was it? M MH370 is verifiable. Like to your point, Yeah. I mean, your your evidence, you know? Yeah. There's stuff you can look into, right? And this is why like I I want to get an email back from them because, okay, either somebody was impersonating a military, which I just think is very unlikely, but there's a lot of psychopaths out there. um or like I gave them verifiable evidence and and the guy claimed to me just like in the ARO report that he had access where he could talk to the NRO and the Navy and what have you and validate whether or not like we have satellite video and stuff that looks like that, right? And that's exactly the kind of evidence that they should use. Like that's why when I see this report, it makes me think of the debunkers where it's like they just ignore all the stuff they can't address and then they just like cherrypick on certain parts that they want to debunk, right? Like that's what it makes me think. So, um I hope that they email me back. So, I emailed it back and was like, "Hey, man. I gave you a bunch of verifiable evidence. I hope your next report doesn't have a bunch of [ __ ] in it." And this isn't exactly what I said, of course, but you know, but that's the idea is like I gave you the evidence. I showed you orbs that are floating around. I told you which companies you need to talk to. I gave you General Joseph Dunford's name. I gave you the names of the leaker. It's like this is a lot of verifiable evidence, man. Um, so I don't know. I guess we'll see on that front. Uh, really interesting to see that you've been making an attempt to verify it on an itemized basis. Yeah, I want them to come back and make a statement one way or another, right? I want them to reply and be like, "Yes, we got in touch with the AR or the NRO and yes or no, we don't have those satellite kind of capabilities." Right? It's a little bit worrisome to me that they haven't come back to me yet because it makes me wonder if like that answer is yes, we do. And I I there's no we don't have a good response to you, right? But it's just me kind of speculating. Um, real quick, Red Panda, hey, welcome up, buddy. Do you uh I thought we were having a a Skyfire news space tonight, but I guess you guys did the one earlier that was really long, so probably didn't have one tonight then instead. So, I decided to do one. Yeah, we might do something more fun a little bit later. Yeah, we did [ __ ] or sorry, we did like four hours, five hours on this thing earlier. And uh obviously it's been a huge day, right? Everything's breaking. We're just uh super busy today. But yeah, the report is kind of uh trash. Totally. Uh think uh and in an earlier space we go through it uh super deep dive like there was just a lot of kind of inaccuracies and it uh it's basically just kind of like the Wikipedia version of American UFO history just kind of uh saying like oh blue book investigated things and it was uh all fake. you know, they don't no acknowledgement that like uh throughout all those uh early programs, Project Sign, Project Roach, Project Blue Book, there's like people along the entire step of the way who saying it's um like a cover up, there was uh disinfo, you know, no addressing that he kind of came out and said that, the chief scientific adviser, some of these other people. Um what about the um I saw somebody claim that Mike Herrera has been that they like confirmed that he had given a statement by like they were able to match the facts up. Did anyone talk about that? Yeah, we did see. And that was another interesting thing too is um because there's been this debate back and forth of like uh Arrow getting ghosted or ghosting certain whistleblowers or people giving testimony and then at the end little like section where it uh it doesn't name the people, but like if you're a super UFO nerd, you could kind of tell who they're talking about of um different people who came in. So yeah, there's Michael Herrera if you like deduce like from what the report says. He's in there. Same with uh Bob Jacobs, the man who's claims he saw the Vandenberg UFO, which is kind of in the news again a few weeks ago. Uh Robert Sales, I think you could read uh his part in there, too. This other um the Malstrom Air Force uh they had Robert Solace's thing. Isn't that a long time ago? Yeah, that is a long time ago. But uh it does show that at least I don't know at least they were they did they did also kind of just like uh debunk those. But actually, if you listen earlier too, that was one of the interesting things was um they listed a bunch of these different testimonies, right? And on some of them, they would say Arrow investigated this and like it's not true. But some of them, they didn't do that and they left it kind of open-ended and they even said like uh in part two of our report, we're going to be addressing the soy. But they did they did list some. What they didn't list, which was interesting, was I don't think there was anything in the report about the 2004 Tic Tac or the 2015 gimbal go fast. Uh, which is kind of like uh insane that they didn't include anything um to at least address those or debunk those or anything. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, let me address that because somebody linked to me Ryan Graves post from uh about an hour and a half ago. And he says, "In the actual report, the Pentagon again acknowledges that there are anomalous objects in our airspace demonstrating concerning performance characteristics. For example, the UFO videos, the 2004 Nimmits and the 2015 Gimbal and Go Fast experienced by a squadron remain completely unexplained and the Pentagon has no new update on these on this mystery. Uh the Pentagon is unable to determine whether or not these uh advanced UAP are foreign, just as the former director of ARO is calling advanced UAP a potential national security crisis. Now, to me, this is interesting because it brings up that same point I was just bringing up, which is like what is this? China, is this Russia? Are these aliens? My personal opinion is that I I think that a lot of this stuff is actually human technology, but I don't really believe that we've magically got floating orbs and stuff like this without having some help. Um, but that's what I would want the ARRO to come out there and tell us, right? And they're obiscating that. And now when normal people like my parents and what have you read this stuff, they're going to go, "Okay, there's definitely no aliens. There's definitely nothing magical going on." Right? But as Ryan Graves points out, they didn't even look at like the two most prominent situations that were declassified in 2017 2018. It's ridiculous to me. Yeah, totally right. Let's look, those are the cases, those are the videos that kind of got everything started. So to not address those is insane. And um I I got to agree with Lou Alzando tonight. You know, some of the things he was saying uh are totally true. like uh all these other foreign governments are really moving along with their UFO stuff. Japan, Brazil come to mind. Um Mexico uh and um for the DoD and the Pentagon to put this out is just very weird. But I'm also like pretty curious to see what happens next. I mean, I don't know if you saw like Lou Alzando's cryptic QAnon uh tweet where he's like the storm is coming. It's always quietest before the dawn and all this stuff. I'm curious to see what they have up their sleeve because he was also I don't know if you covered this. He was also kind of like super slighted. Um you're kind of newer around here but like uh a big point of debate these past few years has been like was ATIP a real program or not? Uh and because that was kind of uh the 2017 story that broke everything like uh it was really presented that way. And over the years through some reporting of like Green Street and some of these uh Pentagon um statements from like Susan Go, it was this like back and forth of like Alzando obviously saying like ATIP was a real program blah blah blah blah and then the other end saying like ATIP wasn't an official program. It was more of just kind of like a hobby amongst UFO enthusiasts within the DoD. And uh today that report um kind of called him out and basically saying that like ATIP was never an official program. It was just a collection of people very interested in UFOs within the DoD. And um yeah, and it's funny even today on his statement he he made an emphasis to like sign it as like Lou Alzando, the director of ATIP. So he's probably definitely worked up. Uh I'm curious to see what him and Melon and the proisclosure people do. Like I said, given their his recent tweet of like the storm's coming and whatnot. Yeah, that's wild, man. Like I I still have no freaking clue what's going on with this ATIP thing, right? People are going like it was a body, but it was named something else and like knowing the government like I I can't even tell still what's real on it. And I actually was asking people on both sides and I'm people just talking past each other. Um uh you know from my sources I you know my understanding is that you know Lou's a a regular guy. He's got his own self-interest, right? And his, you know, from his position, if you look at it, like they he kind of took a put his neck on the line to come out and be a public figure like anybody who does in this uh space. And you know, he's got to he's trying to got to set set himself up to be able to make a living, you know, especially if he's can't be in the military. I don't even actually know exactly what his job is at the moment. Um, so from that perspective, I I definitely respect him, but it's super confusing and it almost felt like he was taking a play out of my playbook where like when I was uh you know, this is my retirement day from MH370 investigation, but I would put out these daily kind of update posts that people really liked. And I'm going to read Lu Alzando's thing here because it feels like exactly one of these kind of motivational speeches, you know, that I would put out there early on in the investigation. says, "Friends, it's always most quiet before the storm. There's no going back. Some members of Congress finally know what's going on. Some officials in the executive branch are scrambling. Efforts are underway below the wave tops, the results of which will break the surface and reveal themselves at the time of our choosing. This is going to be an interesting year for those following or for those who continue to offiscate. We are hard at work for you." That's uh I don't know like the thing for me is like this seems like one of those messages where it's like if you have some information you just post it, right? You don't need to obiscate about this kind of stuff, you know. Um and this is where like my post today about Edward C. Lynn, the reason why Edward C. Lynn is my hero is that if he is the guy that leaked the MH370 videos, which I'm very certain that he is, then that's a real hero, right? That's somebody who's like, not only am I going to come forward, but I'm going to drop hard evidence, right? And people aren't going to believe it, but I'm going to drop it. I'm going to force that conversation forward. As opposed to this like, I have secret information about a 23minute video, but I can't really talk about it at all because I'll go to prison about it, right? But it's like someone's just got to say it, you know, and and go to jail and then have people rally around them and and try to get that evidence out because otherwise like it's too easy for them to and them being the government to just be like, "Nope, this is all made up. This is all fake." Whatever. Right. Like that's just my opinion. Anyone else have any thoughts? Feel free to just jump in. I'm glad that he did say that. I'll just get this out real quick. I'm glad that he did say that, right? I'm glad there's something going on. But it is almost kind of like an insult, right, to to the everyday UFO nerd or whatever that his whole like at a time of our choosing, right? It's like that just this whole like it's it's a trust me, bro, right? It's a I have info. Yeah. And I get that he's like saying it to Kirk Patrick and the DoD, but he's also saying it to like the average person, and it's just kind of I don't like that energy. Yeah, I'm with you. Uh Terrestrial Ice Cream Scoops, what's up? What's up, buddy? What's up, dude? But I'm I'm looking through this this Arrow report right now and yeah, I mean it does kind of put like Alzando and everybody's back against the wall pretty far, but at the same time it's like, dude, where are the documents from Arrow? Like when you read this stuff that's in here that says the former military members signed an MFR attesting the truthfulness of his account. Why are we not getting documents from them though either? This is all just kind of trust me, bro, on their side too. Am I wrong? Like is anyone else seeing like any actual documents from them or No. Yeah. And that's that actually again like I must have been talking to an arrow person because they were literally saying the same stuff to me on the phone about this. Like he's literally the guy I remember vividly is telling me like, "Nope, it's all balloons. We've we've confirmed that it's all, you know, there's all totally normal stuff." And I'm sitting there telling him like, "Well, okay. I'm about to show you some crazy floating orbs. Go. You better go check this [ __ ] out." Um, and yeah, it is kind of trust me, bro, on their side, right? Like I don't know if they've got like the debunker mentality or or what it is, but my personal opinion is if there was nothing here to this at all, then it wouldn't even be a thing. There wouldn't even be a UFO. Right now, whether or not that means there's aliens visiting us from the Zenu or Andromeda galaxy, I think that's a different story. Right. But like there's something going on here. And if everybody's just saying, "Oh, nope. Nothing nothing to see here." Right? Then it doesn't really get us any further. Anybody else's got thoughts? Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. No, I mean it's I know they were talking over in Green Street Space and they're saying, you know, this has been seven years. Wonder why it's been taking them so long. And I'd say, well, because even some of the smartest people in the world are going to take their time on how they're going to approach this thing, man. I mean, for me, Arrow has been just the ultimate answer for them to get the toothpaste back in the tube. I mean, look at the community. I don't see a single document in here that's that's actually proof of anything. And these people are just eating this up. It's really wild. Like I and look, I'm not on a team. If Grush and everybody's full of [ __ ] then they're out, dude. But at the exact same time, I'm requiring documents from both sides. You I don't give a [ __ ] if it's the Pentagon. I don't care about that. I don't I'm not taking trust me, bro, from [ __ ] anybody, dude. This is really strange to me. Yeah. And I haven't read it yet because I was busy playing video games all day, just having a good time and enjoying my my supposed retirement from that video games, too, in the meantime. But yeah, but I'll take a look at that later because I do want to I do want to try to see like how [ __ ] this report is um in general. And I was on Steen Green Street's space earlier and I I jumped really quickly into the the late group space and like nobody's really talking about anything that really matters. Like it was weird to me when I was listening to this the Stephen Greenspeed space where they're like almost like flipping the script now going like oh well there must be something hidden from us, right? And I'm just sitting here going, "I'm just showing you guys crazy advanced technology on two videos and you're [ __ ] all over me and now you're going to flip the script and go and these are the debunkers are going,"No, they're all, you know, making this stuff up and profiting off it and now they're going, "Oh, yeah, of course the government's hiding some stuff from us." I'm like, "What? You kidding me?" I I mean, you know why though, Ashton? I mean, they got to extend the content, bro. I mean, at the end of the day with the way that a lot of these guys are talking, like, I don't know what they're doing in the field anymore tomorrow then. Like, because to them, it's like it's so weird, dude. On one hand, they'll sit there and say, "It's nothing. It's nothing. Rip UFOs." It's like, "Okay, well, so you're not going to be here tomorrow then, right?" Because you got your answer. But they're still going to be here tomorrow. So, it's I don't understand it. It's the weirdest thing. I'm not telling them that they shouldn't be here. I'm just simply saying it's very weird that you would talk so certainly that you have the answer, but then show up the next day. It's so [ __ ] weird. Yeah. We saw that with the MH70 investigation, too, where it was like people were debunking it and they were like, "Oh, it's fake now." I'm like, "Okay, well, you can go away." and then it never would go away, right? And now we're kind of seeing some of that same stuff here, too, where it's like, well, you got the answer you wanted. There it is. You're satisfied, right? Nope. Nope. Nope. By now, I've got to change the narrative, right? It's seems sketchy. I don't know exactly what it means. I'm like you, like I I don't know. I'm not committed to any particular answer, but from what I've been told by the very smart engineers and scientists, uh, that, you know, these these people are not like just making up stories out there. Uh, at least in my opinion, I don't I don't think they are. But again, that is kind of a trust me situation. Like, you know, David Grush is going and talking to billionaires and stuff because and and these private meetings that he's doing because he doesn't care what the the peasants like us really think, right? He doesn't care what the debunkers think. You know, he's going out there talking to the money people, the people that are like, "Oh, we can invest and we can do some advanced technology and stuff that's out there." And that's what I want you guys to know is that because I'm somebody who doesn't have an NDA, like I don't want to break anybody's trust that I've talked to, but there are several companies at all the different aspects of the type of technology. Think of all the implications of the stuff that I've been talking about. Um, anti-gravity, over unity, um, you know, superconductivity, all of these things, cold fusion. There are companies out there that are working on these things, right? and they're are big money investors putting money into them because they know this stuff can be that stuff can work, right? So, just keep that in mind. Uh, Tres, any other thoughts? Yeah. Yeah. Last one would be um kind of what I stated when I came in here, dude, which is this dude Gush and them need to go ahead and do something, bro. Like, this this is like way way too far on the other side of the scale. The scale is way too tipped right now. If these guys have anything like what are they who's gonna really listen to them past like six more months, bro? Like if you really want to know the truth of what's going on and you really want to pull your bias out, how much longer are you going to wait for these guys to sit around and say, "Yeah, we got it, but we're just waiting." Dude, come on. Uh, Terrestrial, I I want Grush to go ahead and put the emails out. Put the put the oped and put the emails out that that Kurpatre didn't talk to him. Like, they've got to do something, dude. Like Alzando's tweet where he's talking about, you know, the calm before the storm. I don't think Alzando's paying attention. There is a storm. There is no calm right now. Twitter and the UFO community is [ __ ] up in arms, dude. Everybody's pissed off. Like, there is no there's no calm. And and the reality of it is is that they're losing ground very fast. And so there there's not a whole lot of more room for them to continue to make these predictions. It's at the point to me where it's like every time I hear a prediction from Alzando, I'm like [ __ ] nothing's coming now. It's like I'm I I think something something's coming until he talks and then it's like that's backwards. It shouldn't be that way. Yeah. And that's the part too where I totally agree with this idea that now like this is like a shot across the bow, right? The people that are on the UFO disclosure side like have to shoot back now, right? This is air 100%, bro. They can't keep sitting on their hands for for 6 months, bro. There's no way at this point. And that's the scary part, too, is like what do they cuz I think that what Red Panda asked is also a good question, and we can open this up to the floor as well, is like what would you guys like to see them to do? Because coming just back with stories probably isn't enough anymore, right? They already told their stories. David Grush said he saw or that he knows about bodies and crafts, right? Lazando's talked about some of this stuff like and then Arrow came back and said, "Nope, there's nothing at all." Right? So it's like what's what's the counterplay here, right? And before you guys jump in, what I would say is like this is an information war. This is a propaganda war, right? Everybody's kind of playing their cards the way that they can. And then the question is, okay, what's the counterplay now? How do we get it back to the Okay, yes, we do know about some crazy stuff. What do you guys think? Go ahead and jump in or raise your hand, whatever you want. Star Captain, go ahead. So they specifically don't cover like uh personal stories and stuff like that. it. I I did look through some parts of it. Um I think the value in it that we can look at is that there's some programs that they've talked about in there that might correspond to some sightings, but it doesn't account for all of the sightings. It just might be able to say that, you know, this one in this year might have been this program if it was in this area, right? So, you might be able to use it for that extent. Um but I I don't think it, you know, shoots everything down. it it's just what they had access to. Um and and there's still more data out there that they haven't covered, but it is a chunk of data that has some value. It's not a complete set of data, all the data that's out there. It's just what they were able to find and their their uh perspective on that may have been biased against it uh in that, but it is a collection of data nonetheless. And I think, you know, because of that bias being there, it should be looked at in that light. Um, and you know, it has that value accordingly. But it's it's not the do all end all answer. There's certainly a lot more out there, uh, that they did not look at, but, uh, you know, it is what it is. Yeah. And so, uh, and real quick, if I drop you down to speaker, it's not personal. Uh, I'm just trying to give, uh, other people up as well. and if you want to talk um go ahead and uh request as well and I'll try to shift people up and down and Red Panic can assist. Um but that's a really good point that Star Captain brought up which is absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Right? So just because they say oh we didn't find anything doesn't mean that there's not anything out there at all. Right? And and that's kind of the trick when you kind of have to read between the lines probably on some of this especially when we're looking at this report that's out there cuz you know whatever we have to be careful of what they say and also what they don't say as well. So that would be what I would say keep in mind on this and I'll probably take a look at it this weekend guys and and maybe give my feedback but I was just trying to chill a little bit today. Uh UAP Michael do you want to jump in? Do you have any thoughts on that? Yeah. Yeah. I was just gonna say I I can't help but laugh at this [ __ ] I mean, we live in an absolute clown world. You have the Pentagon sitting here. They can't even account for trillions of dollars and they're here saying, "Nothing to see here, guys. Look the other way." Right? And I don't know, you asked what my thoughts were, but you half the time you asked for it, you're already speaking what I'm thinking. So, what I'll say is I joined that green street space. You got average Chris. you uh [ __ ] Lou reviews and uh Area 503 speakers. They're not letting anyone else up. If only you knew what I knew. Unbelievable. I mean, this this is insane. Yeah. And it it's just it kind of goes to like God. But yeah, I mean there's it's a slap in the face to disclosure. It's a slap in the face to Dave Grush. It's a slap in the face to all of us and all the experiencers. I have nothing else to say. I mean, it's a clown world. It really is a clown [ __ ] world, man. Uh, and you know, I hate swearing, but it is. And I don't like jerking Keemstar off, but you know, Keemstar, Skyfire News, Red Panda, Tupa, the fact that these guys are like in the middle and impartial and everybody hates them for it. Like that's what this community obviously needs. You have like competing spaces going on where like neither side is talking to each other, too. Nothing's getting accomplished, nothing's getting resolved. one side doesn't want to let the other side speak. Everybody's trying to exclude everybody else from the conversation, right? And then you've got the Pentagon the whole time going like, "Yep, we go ahead and prove that this we did this report and there's nothing to see here." And like you said, the trillions of dollar trillions of dollars that never passed an audit, right? We're supposed to believe that, oh yeah, there's no advanced technology going on that we've been doing nothing since the 40s, right? Like absolute [ __ ] man. I mean, I know for a fact that there's people going to labs and working on technology that would be we would deem magic and having to sign NDAs to get into those labs every day. They go into the lab, put their phone in Faraday cages. That's not cuz there's nothing bad. There's nothing special going on, right? It's just it's basic logic. It I don't know, man. This community it's it's wild, but it is entertaining at least. So, uh go ahead. It is. It is. If if you uh and if anyone's wondering what I have against Chris, it's literally that he thinks that there's literally no disinformation campaign, there's there's no like active cover up here. And just for him to be the speaker up on the top of the space, even having an opinion on this is hilarious to me. Yeah. And I think it's Chris is the disinformation campaign, right, about that vaccine stuff. L reviews didn't play the full clip on his show. I can't even listen to the reviews anymore honestly after that because I was just so dishonest and stuff what he did the other day and like yeah I can only imagine circle jerk that's happening over there. It's a lot of bad faith. That's the issue, right? It's a big and and I don't think these people are necessarily being paid or directed by the government like directly and that's the scariest part to me is it would be less scary if some of these people were actually being directed by the government. instead like they're just taking it upon themselves from their own weird issues and savior complexes that they have that they have to correct everybody else. And in order to do that, they have no problem pushing disinformation and misinformation and propaganda against the other side. And that's the part where I'm like, "Oh shit." Like this is one of the things I've realized in the last six months is like it's not all disinformation operatives out there. It's just normal people acting like psychopaths, right? And that makes this really really difficult to get to the truth because like some of you guys I want to be like, "Oh, this person's a disinformation op and this person's not." But it's unfortunately I think more complicated than that. Might be like a protection mechanism. Yeah. I mean, for me, man, like I never expected the Pentagon or Arrow or any of these programs to tell us the truth, bro. But I just I just really expected that they would lie to me better. Like show me some documents. Make me make me give you a little bit of credibility, dude. Don't trust me, bro. and then blame everybody else for being trust me, bro, too. It's the only thing that's frustrating. I just want some evidence, bro. Yeah. No, I'm with you. And I think that a lot of people in here know that there's some sketchy stuff going on. Like, you can just walk around every day and you see other humans and you go, consciousness itself, we can't even explain. We can't even explain why we exist, right? So, the problem I have with uh people like UFO Chris and L reviews and some of them as well is that they think there's nothing special about our lives and our reality, right? And we know that there's something else, something more to that that's going on. And I don't know if it's necessarily that there are beings from another dimension or another galaxy visiting us, but to think that we are at the pinnacle of all science and advancement right now in 2024 seems like the height of human hubris to me and ego, right? Like clearly there's going to be more stuff to unlock. I mean, just look at the superconductivity news. Tomorrow I'm going to post like four different articles that I've just been sitting on where I think Brian Romel already beat me to like several of them. Uh but like room temperature superconductivity is coming. Like I'm sure that's a discovery that's about to happen and it's going to change everything about our planet. And they're talking about I think the MIT they use room temperature high they call it high temperature superconductors which is just another fancy word for room temperature superconductors to actually create cold fusion or to create uh fusion power right like this is all the stuff that we're talking this is the stuff that we literally need in order to have UFOs and stuff exist. So, any follow question? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah, thanks for having me up. Hey, uh I was just curious on everyone's ideas or thoughts about um what happens if as far as physics we break like uh we tap into a more un abundant energy source like zero point energy or use fusion or be able to conduct electricity with zero resistance. um what happens to like kind of our social economic system if that's the case? How do you monetize something that's abundant if there's no scarcity based economics? Yeah, that's the crazy part, right? And uh what I know and what I can prove are two different things. Uh I know there's overunityity out there and already people selling devices just like that uh to very rich people for lots of money. Right? some of these people in their bunkers that you guys seen getting built are probably have over devices in them, right? That are very very expensive, more than probably a car costs. Um, but that it's out there, right? Cuz some people out there know, and this is what happens with the science is that it seems like what the government wants is they want some of it to just leak out naturally and and then slow drip it out, right? And they don't want it to get pushed out there too hard. So if anybody comes out and says here's my overun device, then in comes the suppression, in comes the disinformation, in comes the discrediting. We're going to take all your contracts away from you, etc. Right now, your point is great. It's like, what does that mean to our socioeconomic status? What does that mean to our way of life? What does that mean to our fossil fuel based economies? Right? They're going to change for sure. And this is where like I didn't believe in stuff like the deep state before this. Now, like it's hard for me not to say stuff like the deep state because you have this enriched elite class that not are just politicians but uh some career bureaucrats, some career scientists, they keep it in the family, right? And they are they know that some of this technology is real because they're some of the scientists that are working on it and then they own the patents, right? And then those patents get licensed out to companies and then they make tons and tons of money on it. Like it's an enriched group of power elites that are keeping and enshrining the power into themselves. It it's I mean to me it's a crime against humanity. But what do you guys think on that and then we'll go to investigate earth? Hey Ashton. Hey NC boy. Is that you? Hello. Yes. Kevin here from the UK. Um so yes not to get too political but yeah I think you know my thoughts um freeg it'll never be um um it'll never be available to to us. um minions as you say hydrocarbons you know rules the the economy really globally doesn't it you know and it's much like Gillette bought the the patent ceramic razor blades probably about 40 years ago because they would you know ceramic razor blades don't blunt you know so of course they bought that out it's in a safe somewhere you know so it protects their their livelihood doesn't it um it's much the same with with energy so the the tech that they have it'll never be available to us masses unless they can tax it. You know, it's much like um in this country they moved from cigarettes to to vaping. They couldn't tax the battery and they couldn't tax the the liquids that go into it to vaping liquids because that was a food product. But slowly the the well the EU are now finding a way to tax us, you know. But um but anyway, enough about politics. Um other than just to say this is all about splitting the the left and the right and then the right again and again and again and again. It's just it's it's diminishing the army. It's diminishing the counter force. But anyway, on your last day, I just want to say thank you Ashton. Um you you've been a great um insight to myself. You know my skills, you know, and to me, I think there there hasn't been enough questioning to well Hula Packard who are now known as Agelant who are now known as keys sites. Now they've digressed into communications, fusion, all those kind of systems and they have stuff on board and me personally I I I I do believe there wasn't enough questions from the investigators and the official aviation safety report about their cargo um that either caused the descent of the plane and try to cover up by spoofing the data because they make software for insat and they make hardware for insat. So if they didn't want the plane found thinking it did go in the sea, they'll be the ones who to do it, thinking that they downed the plane, you know. Um so again, just a big thank you, Ash. I hope this isn't the last of you. Um this is just one play from the the forces who who rule us. Um so I I look forward to to your next adventures. Yeah, thanks NC boy. I don't know if we've ever spoken directly like that, but uh it was good to hear from you and hear your accent. I I I love it. Um, you know, a couple aspects on it. Uh, I think I'll start from the beginning of what you just mentioned as well, which is that they'll they'll never potentially let us have access to this, but if you think about the razor blade situation that you brought up as well, uh, I actually went and bought some razors recently at the at the Target and um, there was the the new brand, I can't remember what it's called, but like there are ways to render them obsolete, right? where now you come in as your own brand and they I I can't remember was it like men's club or something like that, right? And now they're selling probably. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. But that's the idea though, right? Is like you come in with your own thing and you undercut them, right? You hit them at a different angle of attack within from a marketing perspective or whatever, right? And that's the way that you can beat that, right? And that's what I want to do honestly, just to be blunt with you guys. Perhaps there's a paradox there. Yeah, maybe there's a way, right? To get open and this is where we have to be crafting open source and people giving things of higher value than material material gain. You know what I mean? Like different like value alignments and maybe that's something that humanity has to go through. And I had seen Jenny doesn't seem like any different from any other technological advancement, right? I mean, yes, the impacts going to be very extreme, but any technological advancement is going to have, you know, consequences, right? You're going to have short-term turmoil to be able to reap long-term massive gains due to free energy, right? I mean, if to go back to the zero point, you know, energy concept, right? Like you can't fight you can't fight that. That's just the march of history. Yeah. No, it's a discovery. I think maybe there's a paradox there. I think I think it depends, man. I mean, when you look at the weaponization like possibilities of this technology, dude, you're talking about something that's way far beyond like any kind of WMD. And I wonder after the Manhattan project and after we dropped those bombs in Japan, they realized that, wow, we just used a weapon and exposed technology that we have no defense of. That was probably a bad idea that the next time we're not going to do that. And I'm wondering if this whole time if you're going to get going to get an actual end of the cover up, it's because they finally have a defense for it. Yeah, it absolutely could be. Um, and again with respect to the technology and stuff out there, I think that we have to be crafty. I I had seen Jenny in here before, who I've done a lot of spaces with Jake Chancley on, and he has a lot of really good insights. It actually impresses me every time I talk to him. But, um, one of the things that he mentioned about like how we beat this deep state or whatever you want to call it that knows about this technology is now we know what they have, right? And we have to be cunning. We have to look for their weakness. We have to exploit it. Maybe their weakness is that we can undercut them in the market. Maybe we can find out since we know that over unity is possible that the vacuum energy of spacetime can be uh tapped into, you know, we can figure it out ourselves and then we can bring the the products to market without their permission, right? Like screw them, you know, and stuff like that. We can't wait. I hear like when are they going to let us have it? Yes. Right. We can't have you know there is going to be no let us have it. You have to take it. I mean, you have to do you have to kind of do it yourself like you're saying actually. And so the other thing I want to say real quick to NC boy thing, first of all, thank you very much NC boy. You've done a huge amount of investigative research. Kevin, I think your name was. And um I just want to thank you for that in general. Um MH370 is not going away. Uh you know, I I posted a little music video thing that I made as well and I made a Reddit post today about it. In the Reddit post, I mentioned that the world's just simply not ready for this, right? But if you are one of the people that's ready, you shouldn't be disheartened by this. What you should look at it is as an opportunity. Is that if you know that we have this extra dimension in our reality that we can tap into the zero point energy of spacetime. That's an opportunity. That's an opportunity for investment. That's opportunity for invention. That's an opportunity for marketing. Uh it's an opportunity to look at your life and look at reality in another way as well. So I think that that's how we should look at it. And we should look at it as the rest of the world is going to slowly catch up to us. And this is why like I've positioned myself and made various proclamations about what I think will happen with technology so that if that stuff does happen, people will be like, "Oh, is this guy a soothsayer?" No, I just talked to the people that knew the stuff way ahead of time, right? And that's how the world really works is that the truth is buried out there and the people, the normie people and what you see on social media, they're way behind, right? They don't know the real truth. And so that's what I think is great about the people that are in here and people having these productive conversations. Um, now real quick, I want to go to investigate Earth because uh I think it's either Chad, it's probably Chad uh that's had his hand up there. Hey, how's it going, man? You want to uh tap into anything that we've been talking about here? or just be quiet. It's super awkward. That's fine. Okay. Well, if Chad's not ready to go, we'll go to Noah. I was gonna say, "Hey, Ashton, thanks for the time, brother. I'm gonna go back to doing some gaming. I'm just going to listen." Dude, something appreciate you, dude. It's been It's been fun talking to you on Alienatic, too, man. I think Terrestra had a good point, too. And like, you know, being careful how technology is used and having the responsibility for it. I think that that there's an aspect to that for sure. Yeah. And I and just for the record for people who are out there because it is I the day I said I was going to retire from the case in general, um there's a couple more podcasts that I kind of promised to people that are going to still happen, but I'm not going to be putting out any more original investigative work from this point forward. I am I think I'm planning on doing one more to just wrap up like what I think happened to the plane in general that I'll probably push out tomorrow. Um but what I want to be doing is just like stuff like this. I'm here by the Oh, sweet chat. We'll get to you in just a sec. Yeah, I just want to be talking to like people like you guys about what the implications of all this stuff are, pushing the conversation forward, right? Not really digging into that much drama, although sometimes I do enjoy some of that drama that goes on. You guys know and you guys have listened. Um, but the bigger things too are like how we can try to talk about the stuff that will help change the planet, right? And that's what I love about the people in this space is I think that probably like 95% of the people in this space want to like know about what can we do to really change things, you know, actually impact stuff. So, uh, go ahead, Chad. Sorry. Oh, you're good, man. Um, yeah. So, when you called on me, my this screen appeared and it said your account is locked, which is strange. Oh, fs are coming for you. Then I had to go through some stuff. I have no idea. But either way, that's because of your State of the Union response yesterday. They know about you. Well, no. I think I mean literally as soon as I I retweeted this space and I said UFO community or UFO Twitter UFOX and then it said my account was locked. It was weird. Anyway, I'm not sure but I'm able to talk. Um yeah, some of the stuff you guys were talking about earlier. I mean if we talk about UFO Twitter right in a whole and the groups and and all that stuff. Um you know with the podcast a lot of stuff we talk about is corruption, government corruption, deep state. You know we also obviously have talked about UFOs a lot. But you know we also always talked about division right and so the best way the deep state bureaucrats government control the people is to divide. You know you've always heard the statement divide and conquer and most people think that is just you know yeah that makes sense but in reality that's what they do. Um, the reason I'm bringing this up is because really UFO Twitter has went um, toxic in a lot of ways really since Dave Grush, right? So, since Dave Grush came around, uh, he started speaking obviously in Congress. Uh that's when I saw UFO Twitter just go to um toxicity and and part of the reason and part of the the reason why divide and conquer works is for example the Nazca mummies or NASCA you want to call them but the mummies um if you actually want like real disclosure I believe anyway I think these mummies they found in Peru and you know what they call the Naza mummies they recently did a DNA test where it showed um The DNA is not linked to humans or primates. It is an unknown source um of DNA. They cannot pinpoint what the DNA actually is. And this is being done. Then you also have doctors that are analyzing skeletal uh X-rays of these actual creatures. Um not only do they were they not put together or paperiermâché, which is what mainstream media, you know, when that when the whole story came out, they're oh these are papier-mâché. went viral across um UFO Twitter and then a lot of people just kind of forgot about it and then they just start arguing about, you know, what report is Dave Gush correct? Is he not? But the reality is catastrophic disclosure, which means, you know, people are really about to realize that we are not the only species. Um I think that's happening. I think it's I think it's currently happening in Peru. I think it's happening in Mexico. I think it's I think it all surrounds Nazca mummies. And you have doctors saying that not only um is the skeletal remains intact and they have not been manipulated but they also doctors have talked about the fact that these the way these bone structures are and what they connect to and how they connect and you know or three three fingers, three toes also the elongated skulls plus very long leg or not legs but very long feet. Um, everything points to these things are actual alien bodies of some kind. We don't know, but we know that it's not human DNA and it's not animal DNA. Um, so all I'm saying is is that divide and conquer really works because the biggest story really in the UFO community should be this at the very least. If if you want to go historical value, you want to go science value, that is something that everyone should be talking about and they're not, which is crazy. Yeah. And so I actually have a pretty fun story about that which was that uh I forget which one of you pinged me into the fact that there's like a thing going on on the 12th in LA I think uh about the the mummies another presentation that's out there and uh the person that uh not the person that pinged me but the the person who made the post was like oh I don't want any influencers to be involved in this or whatever. I didn't or specifically didn't want me. And I kind of laughed at it because from what I've kind of discovered with this is that people are are definitely if they're not going to take the videos that we've been presenting seriously, like everything that's out there has been debunked, right? Like they're not we're not going to move the needle on this, like if they were willing to uh go ahead and claim that this was like chicken parts and papier-mâché and all the stuff they said about the NASCA NASCAR mummies, whatever you guys want to call them. I'm joking. Um, you know, it's unfortunately that even if I actually think there's a pretty good possibility that those bodies are just completely legit and that's non-human intelligence, right? That they we found some bodies on our planet. If there are aliens visiting us, then you would think that we must find some of their bodies out there, right? Um, but no one's going to take it seriously. That's the sad part even. So, um, because that's just the state of our civilization right now is that it's not even a matter, and this is just my personal opinion from what I've uncovered is that it's not a matter of proving things to be real or not. It's a matter of waking people up, right? And so, it's not a situation where like you're going to go and have a bunch of scientists show up and say, "Yep, here's some aliens, blah, blah, blah." Even if they literally had real aliens doing that, people still wouldn't believe it, right? I think that the people that are doing that presentation do not realize what they're up against in general. And that's what I told that person. I was like, "Look, I'm just an influencer with 80,000 followers who can help push the information out there, right? And I'll do it if I think it's um uh credible, right? But if you're pushing people away that have huge followers who can help and assist you, and you don't realize that the whole thing is just a big information war, then you're never going to be successful, even if your claims are 100% valid. That's the sad part, unfortunately. Any follow up on that, Chad? I was also told that, Ashton. Oh, go ahead. They're pulling they're pulling a Susan Go. The the the mummies are, bro. They're they're only having their select media and it's like we're here trying to help. Oh, that's gonna just not work at all. Right. Yeah. And I don't know what their thought process is behind that, but like that's not how you get the information out there. Like the way when MH370 was most successful was in late November when this huge ramp up at Builtin and then Kim.com gets involved and then we have this bounty and it was a big information war. We were pulling like 100 million impressions a week, right? And somebody posted and sent me stuff from like Tik Tok where one I think it was uh Matt Kim's Tik Tok video of me going on his uh podcast had 41 million views, right? And this is this is impressions that are bigger than CNN, right? bigger than mainstream media. That's what you need. You need to have a huge amount of just support and views and eyeballs on it so that you're waking people up out there. It's not a matter of, oh, yes, we had five scientists that did these uh MRI tests on it or whatever the the diagnostic test they do on them, right? It's just even if it's 100% valid, it's it's not going to wake people up, sadly. And I know that seems kind of defeist, but I think that the more we realize the nature of that, the more that we can help. And so when you look at stuff like LK99 uh and metamaterials that can be high temperature superconductors, this is what I said in the space about that is we cannot let it get suppressed, right? We need to keep talking about it. The same way the weird creepy letter to Ashen Forbes says you talk about it and you don't stop talking, right? I would say the same thing for the mummies. Same thing for any topic you guys want that you really believe in, you know, talk about it. You think that there's a possibility of like self-suppression through keeping things closed behind NDAs and [ __ ] like that? Yeah, absolutely. I think that most of it's self-suppression. That's that's the saddest part is that I think that if we were more open-minded and critical thinking uh as a species, I think all this stuff could have come out decades and decades ago. I truly believe that even the technology for even teleporting stuff might be decades old, right? And if it's really that old, it's just us hurting ourselves. You know, it's not even government doesn't have to do anything. Government just has to sit back and then put out stupid reports that say like, "Nope, nothing can be possible. It's just like it's just kind of like stirring the pot, right? They don't even have to actively uh involve themselves." And to me, that's the scariest part because it means that we are very far away from ever achieving true disclosure. That's just again my opinion. Uh Noah, hey, how's it going, man? Hey, man. Ashton, thank you for taking me on the space and uh a lot of familiar names and faces. I don't speak often on here, so um I'm honored. Uh but uh hey, there's Money Penny, Investigating Earth. Really cool. You guys are amazing, Ashen. Amazing work. Just real quick, uh, two questions. My first question is regarding one of your posts you put up of a a mini clip or an edited clip of several snippets of people back in the day investigating the disappearance of MH370. And I noticed that there were a lot of very popular at the time journalists on big mainstream outlets like CNN and the bunch. investigating the claim that there was no other way for the plane to have disappeared other than for it to be taken. And I did take your suggestion and I'm buying that Florence De Cheney book. I really haven't had the time to tear into it quite yet, but just the the writing style and the photos are fascinating. I can't wait to dig into it. So, my question was, have you looked into other of these other journalists? Because like you've already said before, there's no way that an investigation like this big can ever really leave your psyche. It's always going to be a part of you. So my question was, have you tried reaching out to any of these journalists from back in the day and getting any more possible leads from any of their sort, you know what I'm trying to ask that question? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And so I think that what you're talking about is that that music video that I made, which I'm kind of proud of. It took me a little bit of effort and I thought about it for like over a week in terms of what I was going to clip together for it. Um, and what song I was going to use and all this stuff. Um, and this is the part where uh, you know, we saw Sarah reply to Sarah Bach uh, I think is how you pronounce her name. She was the the girlfriend of Philip Wood, right? Particularly. Yes. Yeah. She's sitting there and she went did the most media appearances and she's sitting there just literally saying she thinks the plane was taken, right? and doesn't and that the families don't believe the narratives that are out there, you know, which is pretty incredible. Um, and uh, yeah, and I replied to one of her posts. I actually haven't checked my email today to see if she responded back to me. Um, but I felt uh, brave enough to to send her an email as well. Um, but you know, I don't know how she's going to take it. Like again, a lot of this stuff is is more than what people are willing to believe and being willing to accept. But people that are out there, especially some of these investigative journalists, and if you dig in and talk to read Florence's book, um, a lot of what you'll find is a lot of the evidence is the same evidence that we've uncovered. And she's a logical person and she came to the same conclusion we did, which is that if there's no debris field, then the plane didn't crash, right? It's it's really that simple. Um, that's hard for a lot of people to understand. Um, but then there's a lot of other most of the investigators out there, and I've reached out to as many as I could reach out to to tell you the truth. But I would say like 90% of them believe in the Immers pings and their whole basis for their theories are based on the Immers pings. And if their theories are based on the IMRAP pings um and those pings are not accurate, then that throws those theories just completely to shreds, right? And the problem with the immers pings was twofold. One, there was no debris field. They found nothing along the arcs for those IMRs pings say the plane crashed, right? At some point, you know, if if you're playing a game and you just keep losing and losing over and over again, you got to think that maybe there's something wrong with your strategy, right? But it's 10 years later and these people are still dying on their hill of these immers pings. And the second part is that the debris is completely the debris that they did find, and I wish I had uncovered this earlier, but the debris that they did find is completely inconsistent with the plane crashing in the South Indian Ocean. The debris, some of debris should have washed up in Australia. stuff like the engine cowling, which is just like imagine like uh not quite like a piece of paper, but like a flimsy kind of thing that is never gonna float 3,000 miles in a year. Never going to float that far, right? It should have washed up in Australia. Instead, it's showing up in South Africa, 3,000 miles away from they said claimed that the plane crashed, right? No debris washes up in in Australia at all. At some point these people got to like rethink their theories but the problem is that they get too tied to them. So Florence Changi is one of the good ones in my opinion. If you read her book uh you'll find that a lot of the conclusions are similar to us. The only difference there is that she didn't have the videos. She didn't have the the science knowledge of talking to the engineers and stuff that we have crazy advanced technology that we think is out there. Um but yeah so from that perspective yeah we reached out to them. Um, and I think that it that's why like again just stepping away from the case is the best move here. It's not that we're giving up. Uh, we're just shifting gears because what would be required for people to realize it is a more time. Uh, they're never going to find that plane in the South Indian Ocean. And then B to understand some of these scientific concepts like room temperature superc conductivity um over unity you know free energy fusion power and then uh one day I think macroscopic phase conjugation like literal teleportation of an object and when that day comes I think people will believe it but we'll see. Good questions Noah any follow up on that before we go to Money Penny. I just wanted to say that uh what you're doing now is very commendable and and moving on to other subjects and also uh conducting experiments because uh you're right, this is the way that we're going to or that you or whoever is working on this is going to have to force the action forward. Uh we're in a perilous time and in my nothing opinion, I believe that the time for disclosure is now. It has to be male. Uh we were stuck in an information prison. And the thing about prison is that you have limited resources, but you get very very creative. I think uh you're doing a marvelous job. Um not to get too political, but uh anybody who sets themselves on fire for any kind of a cause means that there is something deathly deathly wrong in the world. no matter the things you believe. And and to just discount these people as crazy, well, there's all kinds of crazy people in the world. They don't set themselves on fire. The only time you ever see this is when the world is on a razor's edge and we all know that there is something super super wrong with the world. The world is sick. So, if we're going to kill ourselves, I want all the cards on the table. I don't want the nuclear bomb to kill us. If we decide to take ourselves out with the advanced technology and the UFOs, then so be it. But I want all cards on the table. And I think that the way forward is through mutual respect and moving forward and using this technology for good. We are at that time right now. The time is now. Yeah. Anyways, uh everybody, thanks for listening and uh you have a great night. I love listening to you guys. Amazing. and any any uh support for projects that people want to do in these spaces and stuff like uh experiments, you know, mathematicians, engineers. I think it'd be great. It'd be a great thing to like What is that? Where you crowdfund for something? I don't know. I'm I'm new to all this, but uh you get what I'm saying. Yeah. And I think you made a great point too about when people are lighting themselves on fire and this is a reference to the guy that was like the free Palestine burnt himself to a crisp, right? And people are going, "Oh, well, he's crazy." Well, it's not that simple. It's that the world is [ __ ] up right now. It's so [ __ ] up right now. And there's so much gaslighting and propaganda. This is the damage that it causes to people is that you tell people that the sky is green and the sky is blue, right? and you keep repeating it to people at some point people start to freak out about it you know and this is the same issue that we have and I think that unfortunately you cannot disconnect it from politics I wish you could one of the things that I found in the UFO community too is that there's this political line in UFO community where you know if you're if you're not leftwing then I've got 50 people blocking me over it and if I'm not rightwing then you've got people you know doing some similar stuff as well right now my opinion is that because the left wing in the United States is in power and they're the ones that control, you know, probably most of the media right now is that they're the ones that kind of have more influence on what people think. Um, but I don't think it's strictly uh one party's issue or the other. You know, I look back at the early 2000s when you had the Bush administration and they're talking about yellow cake uranium and we got to invade Saddam Hussein. It was the same [ __ ] And you're the same people going, "Yeah, we got to invade Iraq, blah, blah, blah." Right? And it was just all gaslighting, right? It's all lies and gas. These kinds of distortions cause real damage to people and real damage to their psyche. And I think I I don't know what the answer is out there. But that's where you've got to break through and we've got to at least agree. Like we can all have our own opinions, right? But the facts, you know, everyone's entitled their own opinions, but you're not entitled to your own facts. Same kind of situation. So great point on that, Noah. Um, real quick, uh, we'll go to Money Penney in a second. I want to read a few headlines from the, uh, ARO followup because I I presume that all the mainstream media were the ones who were invited to this, uh, ARO thing. I don't know that for a fact, but I know it's true. Um, and so CNN, US military developing portable UFO detection kits as Pentagon says no evidence of alien technology found. I don't know what the hell a portable UFO detection kit is, but sounds like a scam. Uh BBC says US says UFO sightings likely secret military tests. Okay, maybe there's some orbs. I don't know. Um Jerusalem Post says UFO sightings in the 1960s were secret aerospace tests according to the Pentagon report. I don't know how this is supposed to comfort anybody. Uh that was a long time ago. Uh New York Times Pentagon review finds no evidence of alien cover up. I'm just going to go ahead and call [ __ ] on that. Um, NBC News, no evidence that US covered up existence of UFOs, Pentagon report says. Again, I don't believe it. Uh, Politico, US once considered a program to reverse engineer alien spacecraft, Pentagon report reveals. Now, that one kind of goes against the grain of all the rest. Another political one though says, oh no, that's the same one again. Uh, and then Washington Post says, Pentagon finds no evidence of alien visits or hidden spacecraft. Now, the problem with I have with these narratives is that I watched the Jesse Michaels, Eric Weinstein, and Hal Pudof interview. And Hal Pudof, who is maybe one of the oldest, most tenured engineers, electrical engineer, uh, tied to the the government, tied to potentially the CIA and DoD, literally says they set up the system to make it impossible to find out from foyer requests, right? They set it up so they would go to thirdparty defense contractors, the Loheed Martin, North of Grumman, Boeing, Bigalow Airspace, Battel Institute, all these people, right? And there would be impossible to get an information. So when a is just checking into the government organizations, they don't have any power to look into the third party contractors. It doesn't give me a lot of faith. Anyway, money penny, go ahead. Hi there. Sorry. Um, it's quite late. I was just dropping off. Um, the information that came out today in the UK and Europe on MH370 on its 10th anniversary, plus the information that you just run through smack so hard of the biggest bloody distraction block, it is just shattering. Um, our newspaper headlines today, I don't know if you've seen all this, presumably you have, let me just read you a couple of them. Daily Mail MH370 flight documents show extra fuel and oxygen added at the last minute, proving pilot knew what was going to happen. Then you've got the sun. Not necessarily a newspaper, more of a comic, but bombshell MH370 docks prove in capital letters. Pilot plan to make jet vanish forever after last minute changes to doomed flight. Um, and it continues in that vein. MH370 shows extra fuel loaded onto flight. That's the express, the mirror. It's in every single national newspaper. It's on every single news channel here. And all the reports say that um the uh remnants that were found, all the bits that were found were confirmed, definitely belong to the airplane. So there is the biggest cover up campaign I have ever seen on the uh same day that all that stuff happened in the states with the ARO stuff and the same day that is the anniversary, which is the one day that journalists can actually make some room in their newspapers to do something that has happened 10 years ago because otherwise they would never ever consider writing something this small. but it is just so desperate and chose to be they're bloody terrified. So well done because I think you brought this back to people's attention and I think they're [ __ ] themselves. Yeah, thanks Money Penny and I since you know we will talk about that just for a second. I mean, it is the 10 year anniversary and so for one, of course, this is where all the headlines come out, right? And I don't I'm not even convinced they're going to do another search, even though they've you see headlines that say they're definitely going to do another search as well, right? Because they talk about it when it's the 10 year anniversary cuz it's, you know, draws clicks, but doesn't necessarily mean anything. I saw that one about the extra fuel and the extra oxygen somehow meaning that the pilot meant to be that proves that it's a pilot suicide. This is the most absurd thing ever. This is where like people just have to think critically. Like if it's a pilot suicide scenario, they don't need extra fuel or oxygen. They're just going to crash the plane, right? Like this idea that it's some covert mission to fly as long as possible in a high pressure suicide situation where anything could go wrong at any moment is absolutely insane. If anything, I would argue that proves there's some kind of like uh hijacking or uh covert espionage scenario, right? Where you need that extra fuel because you got to get to, I don't know, uh Diego Garcia or some other base, right? Like somewhere that's like really far away. Um Oh, it's it's wild. Something it's this this trench that is very very deep that he was going to apparently try and dive sail into to hide it. The guy's killing himself. Why does he care about hiding the plane? It's just so it's absurd to me that people run with these kind of theories and they don't really think it through, right? Especially when you just look at the German Wings guy who literally did this scenario the next year. He locks the pilot out and crashes the plane in 9 minutes from its from its cruising altitude. Immediately descends and flies into a mountain. Right? It's that's what suicidal people do. They don't go, "Oh, I'm going to take the roll the dice and try to knock everybody out." Even though that they have oxygen masks that can last for 30 minutes automatically deploy and bet and pray they don't get into the cockpit somehow, right? Through the various different means. There's override means the uh the panels break out when the oxygen doesn't uh equalize in the plane. Uh they can they can go through the electronics bay and disable the doors. Um you know, it's just it's wild to me. But uh the other thing too is just in terms of the narratives out there like I do hope they keep searching. That's actually the number one thing I want them to do is keep searching for the plane because if they keep searching for the plane and keep not finding the plane then people are really going to begin to ask questions about it. Right. And unfortunately, I think that when you look at all those news articles, uh, at least about MH370, I think it proves what Putin told Tucker Carlson, which is that, you know, the five eyes countries, the UK, United States, uh, Australia, and I don't know what the other two are, probably Germany and another one. They control all the world's media, right? And nobody else can compete with that. They have full propaganda control. They're not talking to me about this stuff. Most of them didn't even bring up the the orb situation and the the videos in general. I think I saw one article from Australia and I asked them to correct it because they bring up Jonas Dro a guy who didn't even want to be involved and they won't bring up or even name drop me. I spoke to Florence De Changi. Uh I speak to her pretty frequently and even she got nixed from the BBC because just because she's also like implicated in the United States government and her theory is either like you know it went to Vietnam or shot down but she knows that it didn't crash somewhere where there was no debris field. Um and she they didn't even let her on the BBC. So, if they're not letting her theories go on there, they're definitely definitely not going to be letting us talk about some orbs teleporting the plane. But pretty crazy. Um, any follow up with that, Money, Penny, before we go to the next thing? You might want to listen to the interview I've just done with Tony Art and the guys. I know they interviewed you as well. Um, they interviewed me. We did a lot of quantum stuff, but um the interview started touching on questions that they really should have been asking you and not me because I just sort of through it and said ask him. You know the 1MDB stuff though pretty well, which is also pretty wild. Like and it wouldn't surprise me if there was a connection there, right? I the only interesting thing was they said, "What proof do we actually have about the um lithium batteries being on board?" And I said, "Well, presumably it was on the cargo um you know uh like the passenger list. you'd have a cargo list and you'd probably have a security thing as well. Um, and they said, "Well, what what realistic hard evidence do you have other than something written down on a piece of paper?" I didn't know the answer to that. Yeah, the Way Bills got released. I think uh there was a Straits Times article about them, how they were uh not scanned, but the Malaysian uh airlines CEO also admitted it on March 20th, which was a week after he had said that there was nothing dangerous in the cargo bays because the first thing people ask is like, "What do you got in the cargo bay, right? like this plane just went missing. Um, which to me that's super suspicious. So, yeah, we we know that there was lithium-ion batteries with hydrog certainty on board that plane for sure. Um, Craig, I I know that I don't know if you maybe can't put your hand up, but do you have uh something you wanted to say? Oh, yeah. Hi, Ashton. Uh, again, um, what I'd like to talk about tonight, and just real briefly, there's one hero that I'd like to shout out for. That's a Bill of Wood. You got to imagine what this man went through. And like I said, I only have one good friend. He's going by tomorrow and take me pick up my Jaguar. But he was on Diego Garcia. He said, "My friend, you are not getting a phone call off that attit." And he goes, "You want my opinion? What happened to that poor gentleman?" He goes, he did get that call, made that call from Diego Garcia. He goes, and I researched myself, the lifespan of a iPhone 5 is 9.75 days on standby. And he said tragically when they put when we put that hood on it never comes off because it's for our benefit and their benefit. He said that poor man somewhere in that time his body was transported someplace and it made a call. So that's my hero and he's American and people do not give that man enough recognition. Thank you very much. God bless you all. Thanks Craig. It's pretty damn dark man. Um, you know, I I think uh and I think this is something I told Sarah as well cuz she was that was her her uh boyfriend, right? Is that I like to hold out and be optimistic that somehow some of those people survived, but um from what I've heard from the scientists and engineers is like no chance, right? I mean, you've got to survive uh depressurization where they're flying low and get enough oxygen to breathe. You've got to survive toxic smoke spewing throughout the plane. You've got to survive some macroscopic phase conjugation event, which who knows, maybe you come out like the fly man on the other side, right? And then after all that, if you somehow survive all of that and you're still yourself when you get on the other side, then you got to survive the US military in a CIA black sight, right? Like where the hood doesn't come off like you just said, you know? I mean, it it odds are not looking great. Um, no matter how you shake it, the best case scenario would be that they gave him a new identity and put him in witness protection and told him he's never going to talk to anybody he ever knew ever again. Right? That's the best case scenario. So, I agree with you. I think that all the passengers, especially Philip Wood, the American adult passenger, are all heroes. Uh, made a giant sacrifice. And I think that in the in the future, 50 years from now, 100 years from now, people will look back at that and go, "Those people did make a sacrifice. They sacrificed their lives so that we could have true disclosure and no [ __ ] about, you know, we don't know anything anomalous happening out there. There's no nothing special going on in the world, right? You know, when we figure out unification theories of quantum and macro and they finally make their way to the public sphere, um, and we've got magic technology, right? That's where people will look back at that and go, "Man, those people, they they really were collateral damage. They they took the hit. They were they were heroes. So were the people that leaked the videos, everything." So, great comments, Craig. Uh, Jay, I saw you come up as well. I don't know if maybe you can't put your hand up, but do you want to say anything? Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah. How's it going? Yeah. I was uh wondering if you have any thoughts on the hum phenomenon. I've experienced it myself a couple times and I know um a lot of the investigation you've been doing has been into like electromagnetism and uh different like his historical records of like phenomenons like this. Is is there any thoughts that you have on this? No, I'm I'm not sure about the hum phenomenon. Is that just when you hear a certain hum so every so often or I mean you can go ahead and tell us uh about it a little bit if you want briefly. Yeah. Like so I experienced it last night. I just came across like that people experience this a lot like not just me. And um so like last night I was uh outside and I heard this loud humming sound and it sounded like kind of like thunder, but I was looking it up and I I really didn't think it was thunder and there was I looked up the weather report. No clouds, no like uh no rain activity. So ultimately I came to the conclusion like this is something different and and it sounded mechanical but all the conventional explanations really don't make sense to me. All all these experts say that it's something mechanical going on like in your neighborhood or something maybe um to do with auditory issues. But you can look up videos online. It's pretty It's pretty absurd. Yeah. No, I mean I I don't know much about it in general. Um, one thing I do know is that that like younger people can hear frequencies um that older people can't. And I actually remember that too when I was younger where I could like tell if the TV was on downstairs. Not I couldn't hear the TV, but you could hear this like buzzing noise. And if the universe is all uh frequencies and waves, which I think that it it probably is in general, then I guess it wouldn't surprise me if you have stuff like that um that is possible. Uh but unfortunately, I don't have any insights on any of that in general. Um but you know, you could research it, I think, and look into it and find out if there's anything to it. I would say that like don't uh one thing that I've learned in general is like I don't know where the line between reality and fiction even is anymore, right? Right. And I try to keep myself as grounded as possible and just um you know, not try to freak myself out as much. Um one thing I'll tell you guys is that I'm potentially planning about uh doing one of these like ghost hunting experiences where you go to like a haunted place. Uh you know, and I'm actually really afraid I'm going to freak myself out because the mind is probably one of the most powerful things that we have. and you can convince yourself of stuff that isn't really there uh just through the power of your mind. And that's what scares me more than anything. It's like I can imagine myself going to one of these like haunted like prisons or something like that and then just convincing myself that I'm seeing something that's not even really there and uh and just freaking myself out. So if I do, it'll be entertaining for you guys, but uh it it can be very scary. So what I would say is that I'm not saying that what you're experiencing is not real. I think that experiences are very powerful. Um, but just try to keep yourself grounded as much as you can and and yeah, look into it and see, you know, and see if other people are experiencing around you as well. Can I can I also tell a quick anecdote of some Yeah. So, I remember this exper or like I've had this experience multiple times when I was younger. I used to like get home from school really uh late and I would like after uh track practice and I would be super tired and I'd be watching like a hockey game like NHL. I fall asleep on the couch and I would be in this weird state when I wake up that the game would still be on and all the players the way they move they would be like on like on like 1.5 times speed and I don't know if it had to do with like it's just a it's a weird experience with time like how you can experience like time differently and like different states of consciousness. I don't know it seems. Yeah, definitely. Thank you for sharing that with us. Um Nathaniel, I saw you put your hand up. What do you have to say, sir? Hey there. I just um I had another point, but I wanted to corroborate Jay's um thing. Not with a personal anecdote, but just with the phenomena being called the TA hum. Uh I think Steven Greer even spoke about it and said that um it might be underground drilling equipment creating a kind of a resonance in the bedrock. Uh that's in the TA scenario, but there's also videos out there of this kind of like cloverfield trumpet thing that's uh you can hear from the sky in many different locations. And um I think it would be interesting to uh investigate because it could be a knock-on effect of an advanced technology, perhaps something atmospheric. And um anyway, I just wanted to give uh that uh data point. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate it, man. Uh, yeah, there's a lot of uh I don't know if they call it high strangeness or whatever stuff that's out there in general. Um, and the reality is I don't know how much of it's uh true or not, but I I do think that our experiences are are definitely very powerful. Um, couple last people and I think we'll probably close out here. I'm going to try to get some late night food. Um, Sandy, did you have anything you want to say? I know you've been up speaker for a while up here. I appreciate you've been following along, hanging out with us or Antonia, either of you guys. You don't have to speak if you don't want to. Yes. Um, can I speak? Sure. Go ahead. Hey. Um, I I was wanted to address that other letter to you, Mr. Forbes. Um, that came Oh, don't call me Mr. Forbes. That's my dad. You just call me Ashton. Okay. It's disrespectful. That's all. I know. I know. I'm just messing with you. Um, yeah. There was another letter to Ashton in between there that I believe you might have even been perusing at one one of your um streams or your podcast and it mentioned thermodynamics. It was uh it was um posted by um uh oh god uh nor um it's not the nicobar one is it? Yeah the nicobar one. Yeah, I listened to that one. It's pretty me to me. I'm 99.9% sure that was somebody who thought that it would be easy to create one of those videos who thought that because I listened to it and it was the robotic voice was super bad. It was very clearly like AI produced. And that's the thing about language learning models, LLMs with AIS, right? Is that AI just borrow information from somewhere else and then they like summarize it. And it's kind of like when you look at stuff that's like obviously CGI where you can tell there's something wrong with it. It's the same thing with some of those learn lang learning models. So when I listen to that I I couldn't even get through 30 seconds of it because I could tell right away that it was they added the word thermodynamic company into that and I've never even brought that to my attention prior to that. And um one thing I will not beat this drum to death, but that um British um administrative belief paper, if you look at the date, it is for u March 4th, 2014. If you put that name and that date next to your letter to Ashton, I mean, if you're in trouble with the law and you're within three feet of something, you're it's yours. You're in trouble, you know? So, it's pretty close. I mean, it's not it's might be some weak sauce, but it's it's right there. And I'm perplexed by the date that it said it all happened on a Friday. Yeah. I I can't speak too much about that. Um I appreciate I appreciate your comments, though. Enjoy the martinis. Hey, do you drink what do you drink? Um stol eater. What are you? Everyone wants to know which which is my favorite vodka. Um I I do endorsement. No endorsement. I understand. No, no. I like Grey Goose, but it's more expensive than the other one. So, usually it's just kettle one, but I like Titos a lot as well. So, keep a bottle of Stoli in your fridge. Appreciate you, Craig. Thanks, man. Uh, I think we'll just do two last people here. Prefontaine, I saw you jump up several times. Was there something you were trying to get in and say? If not, we can go over to Wes. I I saw you just jump up as well. Did you have any comments you wanted to add? Okay. Well, if not, then I think we're probably just going to close out here. Uh, we talked a little bit about the ARO. Oh, go ahead, Wes. Yeah. I'm so sorry. Mic was muted. First time ever doing this. Um, thanks for the journey, brother. It's really been amazing to follow you doing this. Um, I uh I'm really taken by the video that the the real creepy dude or organization or whatever put up about the whatever site that has the the scary thing, the operation happening on it that is generating some sort of apparently top secret uh aluminum micro element for which I can imagine a variety of really nefarious purposes at a time when stuff's being sprayed, the ionosphere is being weaponized and planes are disappearing. And I'm wondering if there and to say nothing of the Randall Carlson tangent. So, I I I I found those videos to be surprisingly provocative and indicative of somebody who I think has put quite a bit of thought into something. Um, and I'm just one guy with no stake in any of this. I've just been fascinated by those videos. I keep watching them. But particularly the thing about this this super scary tech that's being produced in a clandestine place under great pressure and and discomfort to people and consequences and then freaky [ __ ] happening in the atmosphere left and right. Is that the glitter one you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah. The glitter one. The weird part is like I didn't know even know what dendrimers were. And then it's talking about like them producing some kind of delivery mechanism for drugs that can just be like, you know, delivered through like an aerosol format, right? That was just that one was really weird, honestly. Um because the glitter conspiracy is like a real conspiracy and apparently like the biggest producer or purchaser of glitter is like the military. Um, and they're like there's only actually two glitter companies are both in New Jersey. So, a lot of that was just very unusual to me. My true opinion is that I think that those other videos were sandwiched in there. Like, if you're trying to send somebody a message and you want to do it in an anonymous way, like that's a really good way to do it where you have these Miami Aliens videos, right? Uh, and then I there would think there was one about like the the New York tunnels, right? And then it's like the letter dash and Forbes and then it does the glitter and like two-part on the glitter and a two-part on the Chan Thomas stuff and I didn't know about any of this stuff which is the weird part and then it just goes dark, right? So I honestly have no idea. Um but I I'm with you like there a lot of thought went into those at the minimum, right? And that's why at least with the letter dash and Forbes still the creepiest thing that's ever happened in my whole life. Uh, it's definitely either a stalker that knows that knew the case extremely well, that knew Randall Carlson and Malcolm Bendle really well. Um, or it was an intelligence community play by a foreign adversary or our own government. Or maybe it was really just real or partially real, right? Like somebody who's throwing some real stuff in there and some stuff in there to just throw people off. Um, well, imagine you're you're you're somebody sitting on a nugget or two of information that's really relevant, but you don't know how to try and disseminate it in any way that's going to move the needle. And then you show up and then this person goes, "Whoa, whoa. Hey, check. Hey, Ashton. Hi. Weird way to introduce myself. Here I am." And then over the course of these videos, it it goes to this place and I don't know. I've just been reading about this whatever the hell it is that they're spraying in the sky and watching and they you know the patents they that the government's registered talking about the weaponization of the ionosphere and all of a sudden there's high tech chaff glitter being produced in a weirdass facility and planes are disappearing. I I I would be surprised if there isn't some reasonably close connection between the two. But maybe that's just my conspiracy theory optimism. I don't know. But in any event, thanks, brother. I appreciate it. No, I I think that the way to approach it, and this is truly the way I approach it, is that I go I had the same thought process that that's pretty damn weird that and I thought I saw that stuff about the ionosphere as well. I'm going that's also super weird. Um, but I I try not to take it too seriously until I have really hard evidence for it, right? But you always keep it in the back of your mind, right? Because it is a little bit too weird to just completely ignore. And like you said, it's a really good way where if they there's this person getting a lot of internet traction, right, and you've got some information that you want to get out there you want people talking about, it's a it's a good way to kind of latch on to some of that. But it's hard when you don't have uh like a chain of custody over where it's coming from and it could someone could be easily be lying to you to take it too seriously. But again, yeah, I think that it's the kind of thing that you always want to keep in the back of your mind and then if something else comes out in the future that corroborates it, you go, "Oh, I remember that." Right? And that's why I started doing what I've been doing which is um you know I keep uh my own repository of articles and things related to various topics and I've been doing that for several years now and then when the MH370 stuff came around that was a really good opportunity to be doing that and then it became its own thing. It became MH370X. So, you know, that's what I would urge you guys to do as well is that when you find those videos like that, when you find articles that corroborate that, you know, make a folder, make a Discord server, make a channel, save the stuff in there. You never know, couple years down the line, you know, you might want to come back to that stuff. So, good thoughts, Wes. Um, I think we're going to close it out here now, guys. I'm going to go get some food. Getting a little bit tired, but thank you guys for talking about ARO. Thank you guys for talking about the MH370 stuff. Uh, thank you guys for being part of MH370X. Thank you for being part of the UFO community in general. Um, you know, more stuff to come on this. Uh, I appreciate everybody who's been following along on this. This is not the end. Uh, this is, if anything, this is just the beginning of a group of very knowledgeable, well-informed people who want to change the world, who want disclosure, um, and who want to know about, uh, technology that can help us all. So, thank you guys very much and have a great night. Are people dropping hard Rs in the chat? Guys, hard Rs are not good. Uh, actually, hard R. Wait, hard R as in like regarded regard. If you guys are regarded, that's totally fine. But, um, okay guys, thank you very much. Appreciate you guys tonight. Uh, I'm going to go get some food. I'm hungry. And uh I don't know, maybe I'll play some more video games when I get back, but might just pass out as well. So uh more people are interested in the UFO stuff anyway than they are in the uh the video game stuff. But if you like Unicorn Overlord and strategy games, that's probably what I'm going to spend some of my time on this weekend, just decompressing from everything else that's out there. Uh, but yeah, I'll I'll I'll be back into the UFO advanced technology stuff here in um the next few days. I'm also going to try to do Hard Truths number eight. I've got like a few people lined up uh for Hard Truths podcasts. Uh and I'm working on a few others as well that are pretty big, I think. Uh yeah, pretty big. So, should be awesome, guys. Uh yeah, I've been playing this game called Unicorn Overlord. If you're interested, it is a strategy game. I really like strategy games. Um, it's on the Switch. I figured out how to get my my setup working, but I can't I can only stream on one platform. So, I was streaming on YouTube for now. I wanted to try to stream on kick and the other whatever gaming things, but whatever. Anyway, guys, have a good one. Uh, I'll talk to you guys tomorrow. Peace everybody. Thank you. MH370X, we're out.