The Truth About Cold Fusion
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Analysis of Ashton Forbes video 'The Truth About Cold Fusion' (Video ID: ABV1YfVa7uM). Transcript length: 21995 words. Primary topics: UAP, ZPE, government, physics.
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- November 19, 2024
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- 2h 17m
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# The Truth About Cold Fusion malan 370 contact 120m 3 breaking news tonight A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board including four Americans has gone missing [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture the Bhagavad Gita Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says now I am become death the destroyer of [Music] worlds BL welcome to the live stream everybody I'm your host Ashton Forbes if you are here early I saw a lot of people in the chat hit the like button for me please guys let's get more people in here I mean we're disclosing the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world and free energy for the world so seems like it's worthwhile great to see everybody in the chat tonight guys uh we are going to be talking tonight about a lot of different things we're going to be talking about free energy of course cold fusion we are going to talk about the suppression aspect of it we're going to talk a little bit more about Ken's shoulders we've got some follow-ups that we have to get to right away uh we're going to take a look at uh interview how POF did as well that we didn't get to last time so let's just get right into it guys let's get right into it last night's space if you weren't there was really great I got to talk with uh wow I just forgot his name starts with Jay right oh Patrick Patrick Riley I got to chat Patrick Riley for the first time if you don't know who uh Patrick Riley is we uh he had posted on the block or on blockchain or something things some schematics to free energy type devices got to speak to him and really had a lot in common like we see the physics very similarly we I think we came to the same conclusions about it as well in terms of the dangers of it so check out that space if you are interested uh that was great hey my channel leave me alone don't bully me this is my live stream how dare you try to bully me sir how dare you okay we found the source of the document you're like what document Ashton okay let me let me flip this over and then I can show you the document from the stream on Wednesday the one that comes from the UFO hearing hey zpe disclosure welcome welcome welcome uh here oh wait that's not it this one's it let's make this a little bit bigger there we go okay this document right here this is the one I'm talking about so somebody put this together right now we don't know the only thing we know for sure is Rich gel 999 or whatever his name is uh something like rich gri or something like that uh I only recognize him because he was one of the first UFO weirdos to like come out super hard against me and uh be like the videos are uh destroying the credibility believing in real science and videos destroys The credibility of the UFO community right and the best part is he thinks he's like an open intelligence researcher in the UFO community and stuff like this guy's like a complete loser it's really sad honestly so I hope he didn't put this together and I don't have to give him credit for this because actually I mean there's basically no way he put this together I'd be I'd be super surprised if he did so we found this document we can't really tell like who put it together I've been asking our Discord uh hopefully we'll find out pretty soon there's no way in hell that Michael shellenberger made this guys some some people are trying to say that Michael shellenberger made this no [ __ ] chance no chance not in no chance in hell how do I know that uh I know that because the person that made this knows a lot about the history of UFOs like a lot uh Michael shellenberger does not Michael shellenberger couldn't even make one page in this it's no offense to Michael shellenberger he when it just when it comes to the UFO Community he's just not even on my level not even close let alone on somebody's level who's been researching this for a long long time I my guess would be that a random person online made this but whoever did I think was probably probably maybe in the no uh let's see yeah doesn't seem like we really know at the moment okay Richard gri but I I don't think the Richard G guy is pretty stupid I don't think he put this document together we're gonna find out okay next thing uh Stephen Greer spoke about the UFO hearings let's hear what Stephen Greer thinks about the UFO hearings oh we're going to talk about some tism here in a second guys get ready all right you know the Washington hearings Dr GRE Y what uh what the past few days and uh we're in DC and it's kind of the day after right it was what we thought it would be a nothing Burger um because you know we submitted 23 firsthand top secret guys whove actually handled the material uh the craft all that and they didn't want to call any of them wow damn it's crazy this doesn't get talked about like there's definitely a disinformation campaign where they're trying to wedge Steven Greer out of this and they're trying to pull in all these retards like Jeremy corbette and George knp and James Fox and all these other dudes who are like obsessed with aliens it's super clear at this point it's super clear and once again just because Greer is better than Corbell I mean that's not really a high bar to jump across so don't get too excited don't start adding me being like yeah but you can't trust step Greer he does C5 or whatever guys if you haven't learned anything about me the most thing you need to learn right away quickest thing right now you need to learn is that I don't care if one if I don't agree with one person on one thing that doesn't mean everything else they say is wrong this was also happening with Bob Lazar in my replies not as much anymore but a little bit so what maybe if he was wrong about something maybe he ran a pro prostitution thing who cares if he didn't go to school who cares what is the arguments for the merits of his claims is the science real are the things that he's claiming are they true doesn't necessarily discredit him so many people are so obsessed with you you have to hold somebody up on a pedestal and this is what I love about me being the UFO disclosure Advocate people are obsessed with the person who's going to be our disclosure Advocate must be a hero there must be a paragon in the community you must never have lied they need to be the ultimate thing this is what Lando imagines he is Lando's a [ __ ] loser why do I say that because he's a [ __ ] counter Intel spook and he is trying to protect National Security while still selling books and pretending to be some disclosure hero where he has no firsthand accounts whatsoever that are relevant none you should just come out and be like hey I have some information and I'm going to share this information that I've seen and not try to build himself up to be some [ __ ] hero that's what does a disservice to the UFO Community when you're not being 100% genuine and you're not telling people exact what you know then how can anyone trust you why was Lando I'm just gonna rail on Lando for a second why was this guy involved with atip or ASAP at all he's not a scientist he's not a reverse engineer guy he's not even a project manager why was Lou alzando connected to atip the debunkers are so [ __ ] stupid they're so obsessed with trying to prove Lando wasn't connected to this program of course he was all his buddies are the guys who were in it he was clearly connected to assap and atip the question is what was he doing there what was his job what was his role he wasn't commanding it there's no way you don't have some counter Intel guy commanding a UFO program but you do have them running dis disinformation for it you do have them monitoring the internet to see what people are saying about it you do do those things is is that what his job was it came out that he still has a job in the government right now actually I'm not sure about that I have to go back to the hearings on that last thing I don't want to say uh something that's necessarily false okay um just as a side note I did watch this Leonard susin interview did I not clip it it was pretty interesting but not that great the one thing I want to say real quick before we go back to that Steven Greer thing is that uh sorry I'm struggling tonight guys uh with respect to the uh science I I couldn't be the when I look at these scientists that I've revered it really brings them down to earth for me when I watch their interviews I think it was Brian Cox right is that what his name is physicist yeah Brian Cox physicist he was on Joe Rogan a few weeks ago I was watching one of the clips and I was just like man I'm further in the understanding of physics than he is he's still sitting here just three weeks ago talking about we have no idea what dark energy and dark matter are like dude I've been watching you since I was a kid on science shows we've been asking that question for 30 years when are we gonna like hey start up with some [ __ ] ideas they're like oh many people have many different ideas no no no no no let's take all the information we already have an experimental evidence that we already have and let's come up with one theory that answers the question oh look it's already out there it's called Zero Point Energy it's already out there there's already papers about it and everything it's the answer there's no other contenders that's the answer String Theory 27 [ __ ] Dimensions or whatever these people are talking about we don't need that [ __ ] we need five we just need five forward and back up and down left and right uh time and then The Ether that's it we don't need any more Dimensions problem solved Dark Energy solved Dark Matter solved Mass gravity inertia all solved source of energy solved nothing doesn't something doesn't come from nothing it comes from The Ether which is crazy to me okay so instead they called a professional disinformation expert Luis elzando and some secondhand people who knew very little and whose information if you go to uh DPI archive.com you'll see you know 120 top secret military whistleblowers and others that are there for anyone to see that areund times more impactful than the people they had at this hearing so I mean guys Steph Greer is telling you the absolute truth right here now when he's saying that Lou alzando is a disinformation agent you can argue that's true as well you can argue that's true because he's not talking about Zero Point Energy he's not talking about the power source he's protecting National Security he's Towing the line he's doing exactly what he's been given permission to do and nothing more that's what Lu zando is doing he just he admits that's what he's doing and he talked [ __ ] about Steven Greer for no reason whatsoever and pretended like he didn't know who do Steven Greer was which is just absolutely just straight up dishonest it's scummy and the biggest part about this is that he's saying why are we interviewing these useless [ __ ] people Tim galade he's a rear Admiral he doesn't know [ __ ] why is he being interviewed on Congress why are we interviewing Lando he's selling a book he doesn't have any firsthand experience whatsoever unless he's going to tell us and show us the 23 minute video get him the [ __ ] out of there why are we interviewing these people you might as well literally just be interviewing me there's no difference whatsoever in fact I will give you the truth at least that as opposed to the [ __ ] it must be aliens we can't understand this physics [Music] D so Stephen Greer is saying why are we interviewing these people that don't know [ __ ] why is Michael shellenberger up there somebody fed Michael shellenberger a document about Immaculate constellation and he literally asked for permission from the dod to publish it you're telling me there's a major conspiracy but the people that were going to go to our rear Admiral who doesn't know anything uh a guy who's a Counter Intelligence agent who is Towing the line uh a a a journalist who asked for permission from the dod to publish his paper to blow up amaz the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world that's not who I want on the team doing the job that's not the person those aren't the people I want saving me if my life's on the line the people that I want I want Hal POF up there who Lou alzando references all the time why is Hal POF not being compelled to testify that's what I don't understand I mean I do understand it is is getting blocked but you should tell the world that right and we can have Eric Davis up there Salvador pasz can be up there or literally anybody in Dr Greer's archive that are all Engineers that are still alive we missed out on several because they've died now it should be Tom Bearden up there Paul SZ all these guys have been talking about it but they're all dead now so we need the engineers up there testifying to how the physics works so that people don't have to be like oh we can't understand that only the aliens could understand Concepts like there being energy all around us like geez man are you kidding me and then Mike gold nothing actually really against Mike gold to be perfectly honest with you I he was the best out of all of them he actually answered a couple questions honestly that I could tell now when he said something about NASA being transparent or whatever the [ __ ] he said about NASA like wow I don't know maybe he's just out of touch not sure uh but when he asked the answered the question about the energy source being a national security issue finally finally we got the truth from him so anyway but why is he there too though it's like him being there is kind of like we didn't have anybody else better to bring along we're going to bring this guy along who's an executive at Bigalow Aerospace and worked with NASA okay he what' he do like oh he was just like an executive okay okay great uh let's watch like one more minute I think we got the main points though that I wanted to go through it it begs the question of whether anyone in Congress is actually serious about disclosure and investigation and because uh it isn't as if they haven't been provided personally I mean I me personally handing off this material people who are of no consequence at all and I always say this is why the Congress has a 12% approval rating you know one less than a third or a quarter of the current president the outgoing president so you know we spoke with Tim burett a few day a day before the hearings we asked him and we told him straight up why are you not bringing these firsthand Witnesses he's told us that well he's not in charge and he says Congress is afraid of them is are they actually shadowbanning each other in Congress and who has Authority on this subject and they're denying a Congressman Tim burett to bring firsthand what Mrs Ford yes cuz I've spoken with him and he's not senior on house oversight or other committees I think he's the third term uh Congressman okay so yeah he's basically saying they're getting SK they're getting blocked let's see what else what I'm warning here of is that I think there are a group of people I'm working with who are inside these black sites and in these underground bases that are going to move forward in defect with all the goods and all the evidence before um the the incoming president can act and and certainly the house has had ample opportunity and the Senate to do a proper investigation and they have not done so um okay so that's enough he's saying maybe people are going to defect I doubt it I hope so but I doubt it I hope Trump exposes the [ __ ] out of these people if not and if these people don't admit what they did to the plane and this stuff comes out I'm going to be advocating for the death penalty for the people that were hiding this that's my stance if these people don't fess up before they get exposed I'm advocating for the death penalty if they come out before they get exposed and admit this real I will be advocating for amnesty that's how serious I am about this and pissed off that we have douchebag ass deep State covert administrative Elite [ __ ] hiding free energy from the world that would change our entire planet for selfish ass stupid ass reasons I tell you what for the faction out there that says oh Russ and China and Iran are going to get this and then they're going to take over the US and subvert us or we're going to destroy ourselves because we're so dumb you know what if that happens let it happen if that's what's how our Our Fate is that wipes us out we deserve it we deserve it if that's the case one of the biggest things I've learned from this investigation of the last year humans are [ __ ] we are primitive as hell I'm not even sure we really belong in this universe that's how stupid we are that's how dumb we are and I think that the people who are hiding this know that they know that we are idiots and they're like they don't deserve it you might be right but you shouldn't have hid it both sides are wrong in this case okay just saw a huge donation come in Doc holiday wow I promised you 50 I told you you didn't have to do that I saw you make that post a man at my word thank you brother very kind of you appreciate it man okay wow huge donation thank just thank you again man thank you great you know what I there's something I haven't said in a while which is like I want you guys to have your money I don't I don't want I don't like the feeling of taking people's money at all uh and but I I make the option available for people that have extra income and they want to do it but if you need your money please keep your money um I appreciate I'll find some other way you know I have another job right now that I haven't lost yet thankfully uh I'm gonna keep doing it so thank you man okay let's take a look at some Twitter posts real quick and we are going to get talking about cold fusion here in a little bit I've also just decided oh I'm showing nothing I've decided to try to format my streams a little bit where we do a little bit of variety at the beginning and then we jump into uh um the topic kind of in the middle uh okay well just real quick some people were wondering why I'm calling out Joe Rogan thinking thinking that I was being misleading but no Joe Rogan literally canceled on me because as he says in the very beginning of this interview here um you had sent me a video of a UFO thing why so quiet Jeremy Corbell and he says it's [ __ ] which one a UFO thing that I sent to Jeremy Corbell and he says it's [ __ ] so Jeremy Corbell literally was sent these so the way this went down Kurt Meer sent the videos to Joe Rogan this was like six months ago or so uh may actually longer than six months ago eight eight or nine months ago Kurt mezer sends the videos to Joe Rogan Joe Rogan sends them to Jeremy Corbell one of the top UFO personalities that's out there constantly selling uh merch and videos and all kinds of crap that's out there uh he's the one that brought Bob Lazar forward that's going to be relevant in a second and people wondered when Jeremy Corbell was on with Bob Lazar why was Jeremy Corbell even there why was Jeremy Corbell even there with Bob Lazar it was like he was his Handler it was so weird so weird and it never really even gets addressed anyway Jeremy Corbell straight up tells Joe Rogan that's [ __ ] I can't tell you why am I coming out like I came into this with no preconceived biases towards any of these people in this UFO Community First thing I realized is that Lou alzando is just straight up Lying by holding holding back half the story and his whole argument about the temporal argument about why it must be aliens is [ __ ] scripted for sure 100% scripted it's not an organic thought he is literally uses it to deflect from the fact that we've developed a technology which is just disgusting to me the one where the plane gets circled by the Dr and then uh Jeremy Corbell he's out here promoting Bob Lazar he's right next to him trying to ride his coattails to UFO fame or whatever the hell it is and he's gatekeeping the topic while he pushes out some of the most silly videos of all time in ufology where the the silliness of about them is in some cases they're just flashing lights out there uh in other cases it was literally a [ __ ] jellyfish it looks like a jellyfish flying around in the sky and he doesn't do any he never supports his videos he never defends his videos he puts the videos out there and then just like lets people do whatever they're going to do with them he lets like the people argue about them look at what I'm doing I review all the evidence of the videos the real story of the plane promote it try to like literally advocate for it being legit JY Corell doesn't do any of that [ __ ] he just like I got this video and I don't really know here you go I don't know what it is okay well you want to tell us who gave it to you or where where this was from or any of this other information nope nothing else done that was it just tried to get on some talk shows it's just I I can't stand these people anymore and I'm happy to burn down their whole little UFO Griff [ __ ] that they got going on cuz I want nothing to do with it and it's a disservice to humanity that they are trying to in some cases too they emotionally uh take ADV they take advantage of people who've had emotional traumatic experiences and they try to give them answers which to me is on the level of being like a fortune teller you know which I just I think it's just scummy stuff can't stand as opposed to oh hey we have free energy technology that could you know change the whole world and hey you had this traumatic experience how about we change the whole world and make it like the Jetson for you that would really help people out not being like yeah oh you got implanted by an alien and whatever like here I'm GNA verify or validate your experiences by telling you madeup stories about it and I'm going to tell you I'm going to put something in a bag and pretend like this is an implant you're like what even is an implant what's the point of it what's it going to look like well it's just here you go I found we dug some [ __ ] out of somebody it's an implant aliens must have put it there like Jesus Christ man it's like that is low rent garbage if you're pushing that kind of stuff please never do that in the UFO Community okay and another point I want to point out is like hey don't burn any Bridges I'm gonna burn all the bridges I'm gonna burn all the bridges I've been extremely nice to Joe Rogan despite the fact that we just watched a clip of him saying Jeremy Corbell sent this video and then in the later part of this video here he says oh like some VFX guys like said it's like fake and it's like a video game artifact here you go ready is actually um that's video game that's from a video game no it's not it doesn't match up from a [ __ ] video game Joe Rogan you think we're looking at a video game I this is just like if somebody's so dumb that they can't tell we're not looking at a video game I really just I have no I have no problem burning a bridge with them end of the day all these people are going to end up being wrong I already know it I already know all these people are going to be wrong you might be like Ashton shouldn't you have some Grace then and try to coddle them or whatever [ __ ] no we can teleport airplanes and we have free energy I'm not going to coddle these people I'm going to shock these people so that they question every aspect of the a reality for the rest of their natural existence so that even the people that thought they were awake they start to wonder what real is anymore that's what I'm going to do it's going to be an emotional nuke that I'm going to shoot onto people so when you wonder Ashton why are you being a [ __ ] to people why are you why you not trying to suck people's balls to be their friends or whatever because I don't want that that's not how I want this to go down I want this to go down where people are so shook that they can't go to work for a week because they're wondering if their reality is real why because that's what we need Humanity to get to we need Humanity to be psychologically shook forever to the point where we go we need to change our whole existence we need to change how we're living in this universe that's the only way we don't destroy ourselves by the way it's true though so I wanted you guys understand my thought press on this so if people want to get butt hurt and they don't want to talk to me and get emotional or whatever I don't care they want to talk crap and make up lies I don't care we're we're gonna have the best live stream ever the best one ever is going to be when the government admits they took covert action on MH370 can you imagine if that happens in the future future there's an official acknowledgement by the government that we took covert action on MH370 I'm going to be smoking a blunt with one hand a martini with so many olives that the olives are just pouring off of it and they're all blue cheese olives in the other hand and we're gonna be live streaming I might not even have a shirt on and we're just gonna be not even giving an f about if we get banned on YouTube or whatever else and we're just going to go through people's comments All the heckling comments and all the people that were saying that it's can't be real and that we're idiots for believing it and we're just going to make fun of them for like six hours straight until I get so drunk and wasted that I just pass out it's going to be amazing probably will get 100 million views okay guys we got a lot to go through let's go some other stuff sorry I'm cracking myself up chat I'm cracking myself up here chat um okay this thing is hitting the zeit guys chat we're hitting the zeit guys Dennis Prager of prageru I don't really remember is Prager you maybe a conservative thing I just I recognize the name but I'm not sure anyway all of a sudden he's posting about it does anyone have explanation what's going on this video this is like the last this is like the last last thing person I would have expected to repost my content like this but he actually has reasonable take here people were making fun of him for this take I think this take is perfectly acceptable rather than some oh wait hold on let's listen to what he says right here in the beginning I hope it's aliens rather than some government that can create laws of physics defying flying object so let's just start no offense to Dennis Prager that's an appropriate response unfortunately it is the government there might be aliens out there but what happened to that plane in that video was definitely the government I mean we can tell just based on the operator I don't think aliens have a reason to take three orbs and have them spin around a burning Boeing Triple 7 and and zap it doesn't really make a lot of sense but humans yes that does make a lot more sense and um then he says defying the laws of physics this was something that uh Patrick I I don't know why I always think Jordan Patrick Riley said last night which is that it's impossible to defy the laws of physics why because the laws of physics are based on our observations so if we see something that's happening that's real it doesn't matter what our theories are you must change the theory to match the observation that's science and we don't do science anymore because now what we do is we pretend like we know it all and then when we see something that we don't think is possible we say that can't be real my theory says that's not real the exact opposite is what science is is when you see something experimentally you have to change your theory to match what you're seeing observationally this is extremely important and this is something that we also need to understand with respect to Cold Fusion this is going to be very relevant here in the next half of the stream because we're told that hold on let's see what else we got um why is my profile messed up okay here we go thought there was something else I needed to show okay yeah this uh yeah let's look at I think the Bob Lazar clip is the next one yep also real quick rest in peace to Howard Hughes the very F the first streamer to die has occurred or sorry I said that really messed up a person that did a podcast and interview with me has died his name was Howard Hughes he was host of The Unexplained I just saw it a couple days ago from Nick Pope rest in peace for him it was a good interview I appreciated it okay let's do a little Bob Lazar action so Bob Lazar if you're not familiar put Area 51 on the map he got attacked discredited they ruined his life claimed he was a liar blah blah blah this is important because we see the same suppression tactics over and over and over again somebody comes out something happens and we send into the bunkers and all we're doing is looking for one thing where we can discredit them that's all we really need sometimes you need more but generally that's it we've done it with lk99 we've done it with Bob Lazar we've done it with cold fusion before and we've certainly been trying to do with the MH370 videos we being the US government and their Affiliates so let's listen to Bob Lazar here there's what they call Omron config configuration where the craft is using one generator uh or Delta configuration where it's utilizing all three Delta configuration would be for space travel essentially the craft will tilt up on its side Focus the three gravity generators to a single point and move through space that way if you were going to see one of these crafts at night operating it would appear really as a glowing ball or a just a bright light in the sky from a distance uh even close up you know you you'd see a a glowing halo around it what you're dealing with is a high energy source and essentially a gas atmosphere oxygen nitrogen and uh when you apply enough energy to a gas molecule they emit photons they me like what how have I never seen that clip from Babar before maybe I've seen it and just never connected he straight up just says there's two configurations why is the two configurations important because in the videos we can see the orbs moving uh by themselves but then we also see the three of them come together the Omron formation or Delta formation or whatever it is and then they teleport the plane and he says in that video that uh let me I'll I'll P I'll pull a clip up while I'm talking about this they use the the one formation in order to move not between long distances basically what he's saying there is there's one configuration for short distances and one configuration for long distances well that's like looking at these videos and looking at the dark lines in front of the orbs and then comparing it to when the orbs get into locking a formation and then converge looking for my other video of this because I don't have it okay we'll go to the full video so we can tell here when it's spinning around the plane you can see the dark lines so that could be one configuration here's a better version of it so maybe that's one configuration then combining them produces the other configuration that's wild but the other thing two is that the zap is Illuminating the surroundings and the UFOs themselves are glowing we can see the thermal signature that would indicate that they're potentially producing Photon light is potentially coming out now I spoke with Bob Greener I'm G I might show the DMS might not it's not that important but he said what if the Dynamic Casmir effect or the emission of photons is nonthermal that was an interesting thought what if they produce light without producing heat is that a thing that's even possible cold photons are those a thing for some reason when I thought of that I thought wow that's really interesting there's definitely a scientific provable con concept related to this flash of photons that comes out that might even be the Lynch pin for proving all the science is real Dynamic Casmir effect I'm curious though I'm curious on the uh the cold cold light thing I'm curious if that's a real thing very curious uh okay oh I just I wanted to go to this next thing now here's the last thing I want to post about Bob Bazar and then we're going to get into this thing actually we got two more things and we're going to start talking more about cold fusion this is going to feed into it so this video chill out chill out chill there's a video that Jesse Michaels just posted not too long ago here that is of John leer talking about uh Area 51 Bob Lazard this is a really interesting story here we go what happened is mj12 whose headquarters is S4 up at Groom Lake wanted to get some information out and the MJ Personnel the original 12 uh have all passed away so they put they get different people uh into uh these positions of MJ uh 2 three four five six uh and taken over it's degraded so it's almost political now instead of like it was when Truman originally formed the mj12 it turns out that mj1 the head of mj12 is a guy named adal Mike mlen he wanted to get some of the information out because he he didn't re he didn't want to uh he thought that some of this information should be out in the public we don't need to keep all it oh okay guys what the hell mj12 what is that obviously the context is this is some gatekeeper deep State people is mj12 real I kind of thought that was some kind of conspiracy theory thing but he's basically saying that this whole thing is set up with Bob Lazar by this mj12 group with secrecy so he decided trying to figure out a way to get it to the public so he knew that uh I was a blabber mouth and I would tell anything I knew uh they investigated bzar and they knew that he was a genius uh uh but that he had a background such uh that they could instantly discredit him they okay that's basically exactly what uh Tom Bearden said about how they get you that's why I found this so interesting is that this John le guys coming out and saying they knew that if I was told something I would blab it and they knew that if Bob Lazar is the guy that's coming out with it as the source they can discredit him easily because a lot of these SCI scientist that work for them some of them don't even have degrees some of them don't even have degrees because it's not about how much you studied it's about whether or not you understand the universe correctly and you can see through the the propaganda [ __ ] but they knew that they could use that against him and they also knew that he ran uh a cat house they call it prostitution house uh and they knew they would be able to use that against them as well so they knew whatever he said they would be able to mitigate the damage he removed all his records from MIT from Caltech so he couldn't prove anything he'd go back to no I don't need see any records here well I was here well no he weren't and uh he also uh up in Reno at one time he he ran a cat house there um I forget what the name of the honey Ranch it was uh so they chose him because not only could he probably help them because he was so smart and his M he's the one that named uh an un pennium uh 115 he's the one that told them what that was and they didn't know uh when when he went there they didn't know what it was he was the one that told him that's Element 115 and then told him why and how he' figured it out but uh they I need to hear the full story on that element 115 he he added some story in there that I had not heard before which is that Bob Lazar told them that the mystery element was Element 115 that that is does not seem to track now it's possibly just a storting the story here or whatever I do have to treat John le as a somewhat unreliable witness here it's hard to tell if he's playing a game of telephone other stuff might be happening but I think overall the idea that it that it's possible that some Gatekeepers let Bob Lazar come out with this information that's dark but also kind of tracks decided to pick on Bob uh to get go up there the work at for because he they knew that Bob would tell me instantly and that I would blab the whole thing and that was their mod of separi was to get the information out and gauge what it did to the public how they accepted it and then pull back and say oh no all a mistake Bob Lazar is uh a fraud he never worked here he doesn't have any conen like that and they could back away and get out of it so that was what Mike mclen adal Mike mclen came with and that's the way they played it okay the thing that freaks me out the most about this is that this is basically exactly how they thought I thought they operated is and in in fact when I was coming out deciding like and I'm not even necessarily a whistleblower I'm just a guy that is promoting videos that I believe to be real I knew they would come after me just due to the nature of what the videos are and what have you and so I looked at what happened to Bob Lazar and kind of modeled my actions based that I knew mainstream media would never talk to me I knew that from Bob Lazar and I knew if they tried they would try to discredit me so all the information I put out had to be like solid like I had to have like sources for all the information that I was pushing and I also had to stipulate specifically every time I was giving an opinion even stuff like that because they're looking for any crack anything they can use that's what freaks me out about this which makes me also wonder like you see the same methods like they attack your credentials a lot of people say like Ashton who are you who do you have to be to understand physics that mainstream has no like literally just like doesn't look at it's like literally Plato's Cave all mainstream physicists are looking at the Shadows on the walls and they're going why is there a doorway over there don't look that direction don't look at that giant doorway over there just call that dark energy and dark matter okay but how do we explain quantum mechanics we don't don't think about it we don't explain quantum mechanics we don't try to unify them some pure genius some new Albert Einstein will be reborn and he'll tell you what to think that's what they do they care about credentials they they say that oh if you're not somebody who's approved this is in the UFO Community physics Community everywhere this is called gatekeeping if you are not somebody who's approved to disseminate information if you're not credible enough you don't have the right credibility or the credentials then whatever you say is not allowed whatever you say doesn't matter absolutely absurd that's why we're going to destroy Academia and credentialism as well because I see their methods of disinformation and I'm going to tear them down Brick by Brick that's my plan so just like when I said why are you not nice to people why are you not trying to butter up and and network with everybody why it's all for the same reasons I'm going to tear down every single stigma that's out there every method and apparatus of disinformation I'm going to tear them down and force them to rebuild them from scratch that's what I'm going to do so sit there and lie about the video sit there and pretend and don't answer any questions about the videos that were submitted to the AO pretend like you never saw them whatever you want to do I really don't care the more you lie the more you try to uh ignore the topic the more you try to attack me the more it's going to come right back at you hundredfold this is why I say don't try to send me apologies later I'm gonna drag the people that tried to drag me that tried to play like the videos were fake that tried to lie to people and misinform them I'm going to drag those people for the rest of their lives okay Gary McKinnon chat crap where's my video on Gary McKinnon oh okay yeah here we go so let's talk about cold fusion chat I was why is this doing this close this I was looking up the history I just type in Cold Fusion I get a Wikipedia article I start reading the Wikipedia article and I noticed something interesting it's a very short article this is on the suppression of free energy of uh free energy this is what I looked up when I looked up cold fusion okay and the claims of devices which exist which are capable of extracting sufficient and usable power from pre-existing unconventional energy reservoirs such as Quantum vacuum Z Point Energy well yeah there it is exactly there 0 point energy is a absolute real thing it's not made up some notable people who have been claimed to be suppressed harassed or killed are Stanley Meyer Eugene malov and Nicola Tesla Eugene malov in the pwns and fleshman Saga of cold fusion quit MIT and believe strongly that cold fusion is being suppressed notable proponents of the conspiracy theory include Gary McKinnon a Scottish computer hacker who unlawfully accessed computer systems to look for evidence of a secret free energy device what I didn't know Gary McKinnon was out there promoting free energy it's one thing to be a hacker it's one thing to be a UFO Community person it's another thing to also understand that Zero Point Energy and free energy are possible from these Technologies so I went and looked it back up it turns out he was looking for evidence of UFOs or free energy that they might be hiding from us he spent two years digging around on NASA servers looking for it that is wild Gary McKinnon is actually a legend like he it's and there's no like doubting this like he literally hacked into NASA NASA the US government has been trying to extradite him for decades they've been trying to to try him in the US they're they want to throw him in prison for the rest of his life basically computer cyber crime laws in the US are archaic it's like you might you're better off killing somebody than you are hacking into NASA truthfully so here's a quick video and I'm probably going to just shortly just show a couple clips from this was a real passion of yours in another um where's I want to see the very beginning of this interview right here okay so you knew what you were looking at to some degree here's your list of charges you hacked into the army the Navy the Air Force the Department of Defense and NASA amongst other things why I was in search of suppressed technology um you know laughingly referred to as UFO technology I think it's the biggest kept secret in the world because of its comic value um but it's a very important thing we've got old age pensioners can't pay their fuel bills um we've got countries being invaded um to get award oil contracts to the west and uh meanwhile secretive parts of the secret government are sitting on suppressed technology for free energy okay what how would I have never heard that clip before that is the most based thing I've ever heard in my life like why is Gary McKinnon not a UFO Advocate he's like hey I hacked into the dod Pentagon NASA because I wasn't looking for aliens I was looking for suppressed Technologies you UFO technologies that they've been hiding from us some scumbag douchebags who say that we're primitive monkeys you know what they're right but we still deserve it they've been hiding it from us and he's been doing it because he wants to improve the world because we have people struggling how weird is this I've been saying I want to help people because we have 670,000 homeless people in the United States alone 670,000 and know that number is low it's probably like two million people suffering starving the mental toll it takes on them and we do nothing we just throw money at the problem and then rich people steal the money and do nothing with it Gary McKinnon was legit yeah I need to clip this I'm actually clipping this and and putting this on my uh Twitter uh later because then after this he starts talking about how he got into how he hacked into it and whatever and I it was just like I said yesterday basically there was just no password on the on the terminals he just got found a thing that had no password basically I mean that was all he had to do that is a wild explanation okay we because of it comic value um but it's a very important thing we've got old age pensioners can't pay their fuel bills um we've got countries being invaded um to get award oil contracts to the west and uh meanwhile secretive parts of the secret government is sitting on suppressed technology for free energy so how do you go that's just crazy about like we have War this was during like the war in Iraq is what he's referencing there he's like United States is fighting Wars for oil people are dying for no reason we got pensioners homeless people that can't pay their bills we can't pay for food right now people can't even afford food right now because of inflation over the last four years those are the most noble reasons I've ever heard in my life for hacking into the government the dude is like Mr Robot it's like Mr Robot right here TR to find the stuff that you were looking for in NASA in the Department of Defense well I assumed that although it's part of a secret government project there must be military ties um I'd read 400 400 expert witness testimonies um ranging from civilian air traffic controllers through military radar operators all the way up to guys that were in charge of whether or not to launch nuclear missiles so some very credible people uh all of these people had said uh that there is there UFOs they are alien um we're using anti-gravity and reverse engineered technology that came from captured UFO C we're using anti-gravity yeah yeah we're using anti-gravity yeah we're using it we figured it out humans have figured it out whether or not you know what I'm even more inclined to believe we did get it from Aliens now I'm slightly more inclined than I was yesterday to believe that we we did get it from Aliens because this dude was doing this for the right reasons so there you go if you're an alien lover we you just move the needle a little bit okay let's get into some of the other free uh energy stuff so we're gonna watch a little bit of a CLI uh of this video from Bobby Brockley that I was tweeting about yesterday and you may ask Ashton why are we not watching the whole thing like you normally do well at the end of this video for basically no reason Reon whatsoever Bobby Brockley decided to take a shot at several scientists and one of those scientists was a guy named Brian Josephson you look up Brian Josephson pretty credential guy his criticism of Brian Josephson as a pseudo scientist because he was interested in Consciousness and the connected to the quantum phenomenon to Quantum Mechanics that's your criticism that's your criticism so instead we I'm never going to watch any Bobby Brockley videos after this I'm only going to show a couple clips from this video and I'm going to summarize kind of the story of how cold fusion pwns and flashmen played out um I just I I can't stand that kind of low rent [ __ ] when people are NPCs that try to take shots at serious scientists and you may say Ashton why do you care so much about this guy Brian Josephson Brian Josephson developed something that is probably one of the most uh critical and important microelectronics advancements of the last 50 years and I don't talk about it very much because it's that important and so anybody that's shooting on this guy and if you watch my stream and you've looked at the patents and things that we have reviewed you're going to find some commonalities in those patents and that's the most I'm going to say about it in general because we're all racing to get to the point where we can produce this technology and there are some key things out there that allow it to be possible that might be one of those things so best of luck everybody else out there you just got a major clue okay um switch this over to okay so in the beginning of his video he talks about lk99 and the way lk99 played out is that room temperature superconductivity the paper gets published has not yet been peer-reviewed and the media goes crazy it it was a lot like cold fusion the same feeling where this incredible claim of room temperature super conductivity and these videos start coming out he didn't even show Bobby Brockley didn't even show the best video which is this one of superconductivity and he even says people don't need scientific expertise to know they're looking at something crazy I don't need a scientific paper to tell I'm looking at the mezer effect right here I can just tell looking at it this is either the meiser effect or this is somebody's making a hoax video and it doesn't look like a hoax video to me it looks like somebody recording a laptop of a real video where they go so far as to take a little ring and swing it around there I didn't even know why they were doing the ring to begin with when I watched this video for when I watched this video for the first time I'm like why are they doing the ring and I was like oh they're they're showing people there's no string connected to it nobody's ever made a hoax video like this because nobody understands science like this not enough people in this entire world understand superconductivity let alone hoaxer random hoaxers right so here's the reason why I'm showing that and talking about it is that videos come out lk99 people are going crazy for it and what happens people start trying to reproduce it and they start failing failing to reproduce it over and over and over again well here's the thing about science we don't need 99 reproductions to make science work we just need one to prove a concept and you say Well it needs to be reproducible yes you need to have a full recipe that is reproducible that's not what scientific papers are scientific papers are not a full how-to recipe I've actually never read a scientific paper where that's what it was saying the closest ones are probably ning Le's research that's out there but even in those cases they're not giving you a step-by-step process what they're doing is here's the experiment we ran here is a high level understanding of the apparatus experiment here's the scientific theory that we were looking to test here's the supporting evidence for why we think there might be something there and then here's our results that's it that's it so everybody starts failing to reproduce it and even though there were some people that were claiming to see some anomalous stuff people immediately just say nope it's been debunked our favorite word it's been debunked lk99 has been debunked everybody it's all over the people that did it are idiots they're all uh pseudo scientists and frauds blah blah blah and it the whole topic goes away it just disappears straight out of the mainstream straight out of the Zeitgeist and then March 4th 2024 n nine months seven months ago the March Minneapolis Minnesota American physical Society committee happens and there is more about super conductivity and they double down they say we've doped our our our previous version of lk99 or whatever it was lead and copper mixed with they dope it with another thing and boom we're seeing all of the signs of superconductivity at room temperature we even have levitation and we have more levitation videos as well I don't know if I have them handy but they're out there they're not as compelling as this but you can see your your th your rock standing up just Defying Gravity basically um and does it get any news no it's already over the hype is already died down so now we get to the point where even though they've gone and they've doubled down they have more scientific papers other people are now other universities are now confirming that they were able to produce it what have you doesn't matter it's gone it's been suppressed that's what suppression is suppression is psychological suppression is not as simple as bang bang you're dead or you're gone suppression is a matter of control over your mind and your perception you hype it up and then you chop it down in fact you could argue that that's what they tried to do with me with kim.com You could argue that kim.com was an intelligence asset set to do the exact same thing big profile guy career criminal frauder and scammer he's under the thumb of the US government getting paid by the US government and he gets sent to go talk to Ashton Forbes why he doesn't he doesn't do anything related to UFOs that for some reason he wants to help be the spokesperson for ation and then immediately without anyone ever meeting the Bounty that he had set up he never had to pay out a bounty because there is no hoaxer he comes out hard against it all of a sudden out of nowhere tries to chop you down tries to make it just go away the same exact way where we've done with lk99 and as we're going to find out this is exactly what they did with cold fusion so quick highle overview cold Fusion ponds and fleshman came out 1989 they didn't have their paper peer-reviewed everything got crazy people started reproducing it Labs started reproducing it everywhere but then the dod doe Department of energy came along MIT came along they said we can't reproduce it therefore it must be fake okay and they did more than that though they started setting up commissions this thing got completely out of control control they pwns and Flashman went to Congress to get money they went to the government to get money to get funding for it hot Fusion was getting billions of dollars in funding at major universities all they wanted from cold fusion was a few million dollars they just wanted a few pennies the doe starts setting up a commission to review all the people who are claiming that they're finding cold fusion including basically surprise appearances at their Labs I'm not joking 100% they basically set up an inquisition for anybody that claimed it was real and then they went and debunked their claims and again I'm not joking at all 100% serious listen to this next part they went to each of the labs and they found reasons why their experiments must have been flawed and they came out hard against them and claim that no you forgot to stir the tank that's why you were seeing a temperature difference or your therometer was secretly heating the the tank they literally said this in in some cases they said your thermometer is this weird kind of thermometer where there's a slight bit more energy on the weekends and therefore it's heating up the tank and you're seeing anomalous temperatures from that what you [ __ ] kidding me like okay you can make that claim but how do you prove that they don't have to prove it they don't have to prove anything all they have to do is cast doubt on various aspects of the apparatus that people set up and guess what happened next the people all caved they started retracting their papers yes there were over 60 Recreations the doe set up an inquisition and started forcing the people to retract their papers by debunking their experimental setups and configurations wow wow in some cases there may be Merit to the arguments uh the one that I thought had the most Merit was that some of the apparatus were simply not sensitive enough that the instrumentation in the 80s was not that great compared to now so the in those cases they were saying like oh well you know and and some people found that if they took the apparatus and like picked it up they would see anomalous readings even with that when they didn't expect it and they thought oh okay well you could argue then that you you're going to see these extra neutrons or whatever they were looking for um with anything you would always see it because the apparatus itself the measuring apparatus was messed up I couldn't believe it when I was watching it I went wow and we're going to watch the clips here in just a second but the last thing I want to say is this we're also the thing that I'm really thinking about with respect to Cold Fusion is whether or not we really understand it correctly ly we are looking at Cold Fusion from the perspective of hot Fusion we've been looking at it like the same way that hot Fusion is going to work we're expecting it just to work at lower temperatures but is that really what cold fusion is ponds and fleshman didn't even coin the term cold fusion cold fusion itself is actually a misnomer just like free energy I think it's going to turn out that maybe none of the methods that people have been looking for for cold fusion are correct because it takes a different model of the universe to understand how it's possible and in our new model of the universe our etheric model of the universe where free energy is possible we don't have to obey the law of conservation of energy anymore because we can borrow and exchange energy directly from The Ether and if that's true all of the assumptions about how Fusion would work are wrong they're all wrong we don't have a situation where we have to have two elements fused together form a new element and then the excess energy the energy difference comes out we're not limited to that anymore think about that for a second this is profound so I'm going to say it one more time our current understanding of hot Fusion is that we're going to have two elements fused together they're going to form a new element and then they're going to release a little bit of energy and that that energy plus the new element equals the total mass energy of the elements beforehand because we're obeying the conservation of uh law of conservation of energy but what if it turns out that we can borrow energy from The Ether if that's true now there's a new variable that we have to add into this equation the addition or subtraction of energy from The Ether into our observable environment if that's a new factor in our equation for Fusion whether it's hot or cold now it changes everything about the experimentation it changes the results that we're expecting to see we necess don't necessarily need to have Fusion occurring and we don't necessarily need to see excess energy I think that's what's going to end up happening I think we're going to find out that Fusion is going to work completely differently than what we've been trying with hot fusion and that hot Fusion has been a scam the whole time I'm probably going to clip that tomorrow too guys we'll see I always say that and then I never do okay uh let's switch over to the the video where is it where you at Bobby broccoli here we go okay I wrote some clips some time stamps down give me a second chat don't freak out um okay here we go okay here here's the highlights of it 1845 here hello K con from Nova Scotia I love that people watch me from like all over the world too it's pretty sweet okay 1845 I will say that I'm very jealous of this guy's Graphics probably probably around here F forward if you wanted you could tell the story of cold fusion week by week all the way till the end of 1989 I'll leave that for the books instead I'll cover the highlights in April the Secretary of Energy James Watkins had ordered all 12 of the US National Labs to work on cold fusion and he had asked for weekly progress reports in the meantime he had also ordered the creation of a dedicated panel to investigate the issue you just heard it right April of of 1989 okay so April 1989 they form a panel to investigate all the claims of cold fusion that sounds like an inquisition to me and he ordered all the labs to start researching it that's pretty wild okay let's keep going this panel was led by John heena and alumnus of the Manhattan Project he assembled a group of 22 members including Richard Garwin of IBM Steve coonan of Caltech and Darlene Hoffman of Berkeley their job was to review the data of all Labs reporting positive results and sever look at that their job was to review all the labs reporting positive results that does not sound unbiased to me an unbiased panel would be looking at all the results overall and trying to statistically model them to determine if there's really something there instead no they were setting up a panel to only review the positive results and their goal was to debunk them that is messed up I'll replay it again for you guys chill out here we go in April the Secretary of Energy James Watkins had ordered all 12 of the US National Labs to work on cold fusion and he had asked for weekly progress reports in the meantime he had also ordered the creation of a dedicated panel to investigate the issue this panel was led by John heena and alumnus of the Manhattan press project he assembled a group of 22 members including Richard Garwin of IBM Steve coonan of Caltech and Darlene Hoffman of Berkeley their job was to review the data of all Labs reporting positive results in several cases they had members visit in person to avoid ACC they had members visit in person they did surprise appearances to people that were reporting positive results on Cold Fusion accusations of bias the panel consisted a mixture of nuclear fusion physicists electrochemists and everything in between oh so to guys there's no bias guys guys just get to get rid of the bias problem because we're building a literal [ __ ] Inquisition to debunk all the people with positive cold fusion results we're gonna add a bunch of academics we're gonna have a bunch of egotistical narcissistic academics from all fields of physics oh great well that'll solve the bias problem I'm sure a bunch of people who whole lives are going to be found to be fraudulent are totally going to be unbiased against the idea of cold fusion and free energy accusations of bias would be made regardless many of them by Stanley ponds Fusion scientist okay let's go to the next clip basically the doe uh screwed them over oh this part I think this is the part right here there's this weird Alison Wonderland thing that they decided to uh remove but before that there's something here that basically shatters potentially shatters the report that the doe ended up writing there was one bit of internal drama one of the two co-chairs Norman Ramsey had been largely absent from the panel for most of its tenure when he took the RO on he made a note to say it seemed quote a terrible job and according to John haena his co-chair Ramsey spent most of the summer abroad and so this guy Ramsay is the co-chair he doesn't even want to do the job probably because he realized it's going to be a [ __ ] show and what I want to point out is that this was a [ __ ] show from all sides it was not just P it was not just the doe pwn and fmen acted like douchebags they were not ready for the media attention they were not ready for it they were thinking they were going to be treated like stars we see the same mistake time and time again same mistake Bob Lazar made he thought everybody in this plan is smart and they'll see through the [ __ ] and they'll be able to discern fact from fiction and that he'll be treated as a hero ponds and fleshman saw the same thing they thought look we just saw something that's crazy can we get money to figure out what where it's coming from how it's working how we can make it better and they thought people would act normal nope Humanity are primitive we're cave people we're tribalistic it's not really certain whether or not we even deserve to live in this universe and so we attack them we attack their credibility we question every aspect of everything they do and pwns and fleshman cracked they cracked specifically pawns cracked the most it was obvious I watched a lot of the uh press releases or press conferences that they did and stuff like that and they were coming after these guys were trying to find anything where they could have done something wrong and these were like established scientists that were not used to this this is an information War guys it's even mentioned somewhere in this uh documentary that this is an information War it's always been an information War it's been an information War since 1989 with cold fusion it's an information war with lk99 as well it's an information war with Bob Lazar it's an information war with the MH370 videos If you guys don't get that that's what this is all about when you say Ashton well you're not a scientist what are your credentials my credentials are I can sniff out the [ __ ] I can sniff out the disinformation and that the public that the government is trying to push on us and I can tell when something is there not necessarily the full story right away but I can tell when there's something authentic there to figure this whole thing out we have to look at all the claims that are being made even by the Doe by everybody and what we should do is this assume they're all telling the truth assume that everybody out there is telling the truth the people that recreated it recreated it Pond and fmen say that there's something there that it's legit that the doe was unable to reproduce it and that these other sites were all these things can be true at the same time what is the story that makes sense that's what I want you guys to think about we're watch a couple more Clips here uh so this is really big about Ramsey because Ramsey wanted nothing to do with this he wasn't even in the country during the like three Monon period this was going on this was only going on this whole Inquisition this is the other thing the whole Inquisition only goes on for like a few months you're like wait doesn't science take like years where you have to like reproduce your experiments over and over and over and over again no because this was an information War this was a mechanism to make people stop looking at this area of science that's what I the conclusion I came to later in the year he won a Nobel Prize and was even less available when they were drafting the final report so this guy's this is the co-chair he won a Nobel Prize that same year I'm gonna answer this uh Super Chat question right after we get finish this clip he blindsided them by announcing that he was going to resign so all of a sudden before the doe issues their final report Ramsey says he's going to resign that's CRA can you imagine the top the co-chair of the Doe's cold fusion analysis resigns right before the papers the their final report's going to be submitted everybody would immediately think that there's some fraudulent activity going on that this guy must be stepping down because he's dis pleased with the outcome of the report and you guys know what the report's going to say the report's going to say that all of it's fake that's what the report's going to say we know that this is wild that this actually happened having such a high-profile member resign right before they published would severely undermine The credibility of the report so get this some of you guys might be saying well Ashton you're reading too much into it how do we know that the guy was upset about their findings wait for it chat Ramsey was willing to stay on if they included a preamble he wrote which was much less negative about cold fusion than the rest of the report buzzing he only agreed to not resign if he gets to write a preamble about cold fusion that is not as negative as the rest of the report I mean what more evidence do you need chat you have another explanation other than the fact that he didn't agree what with what was going on and what the analysis of the report was wow the panel look at what the panel doe panel rejects cold fusion as unconvincing no evidence for cold fusion Federal Energy board says is it weird that it's the government telling us that science is not real this is literal science denialism that's what we're staring at here this is absolutely no different at all than the Salem Witch Trials or any other dumb [ __ ] that Humanity's done in the past they literally did a Witch Hunt the doe and the FEDS did a Witch Hunt on anybody that tried to show that cold fusion was real that is wild to me absolutely wild here's the best part even though they did a Witch Hunt it's undeniable we just heard the evidence for it you guys just watched it that doesn't even necessarily mean that pwns and fmen are in the right and it doesn't even mean that their experiment is correct the reason why this is scary and it is scary to Joe's Point here is that the doe shut down the idea of anyone even looking into the concept what people should have been thinking is well even if if this doesn't work is there a different engineering apparatus to get those effects why are we just only doing the thing that Pon and Flashman said okay put some Palladium rods in some uh heavy water and put a current through it okay is there other ways to do that maybe there's a more efficient way to do it isn't if if instead of just saying it's fake isn't that the logical scientific approach instead of saying these people are frauds what if we say they saw something now we have to figure out how do we show what they saw or try to figure out what is the underlying physics that could allow for this to be possible and then think well maybe there's another way to pull off the same thing huh this is why I say the whole thing's a [ __ ] show this is why I say all of Academia deserves to be thrown in the trash I'm not even really on pwns and fleshman's side on this but I do think that they deserve to be Vindicated for the terrible way that they were treated I think that they were not ready for how this would play out that the what how the attacks would come and how it was going to be an information War I don't think they were ready for that I really don't think they were and I think that they got too narcissistic themselves when what they should have done is tried to be as open and transparent as possible which is what I learned and that okay the way you beat this is you are as genuine and open and transparent as possible so that nobody can argue that you're some kind of uh pathological liar because you got too much recorded evidence out there where people can just watch you answering genuinely they can watch you get embarrassed they can watch you be happy they can watch you admit you're wrong on certain aspects that's being a human that what pwn and fman didn't do correctly they were refusing to they weren't answering all the questions for people they weren't getting back to people they weren't uh making themselves fully available there was even a situation where when they went to the lab ponds and fleshman started acting or pwn started acting super sketchy about the cells and stuff like that that were there so they started like immediately getting acting super Shady about the whole thing which is like that's not going to help maybe they were mad or whatever I don't know okay just looking here um yeah this is I see the part right here where they went to the lab let's just see if this is the part with the vote of confidence attorney general Paul vanam says despite news reports to the contrary the experiments are now legally scientifically confirmed this is pretty crazy because it goes into the details here but what I just heard right there is is that like the some of the people were like still rolling with it they were just like [ __ ] you I don't care what you said in your panel or whatever we're just going to keep doing it we're going to keep rolling with it your intimidation tactics don't work on me we're gonna approve the the results what have you because again it's just about it's information control situation now this documentary goes into like how did it play out after this basically the way it played out after this is like this PE the cold fusion people got so ridiculed that they had to Rebrand into low energy nuclear reactions they had to Rebrand it which is a better name probably honestly it's probably more accurate it's not a uh it's not a misnomer like cold fusion is um but they basically were thrown to the corners of the earth pwns and flashmen continued to do their work they ended up getting funded under the Japanese government under Toyota I believe it was for several years and then they had a falling out and they never talk to each other ever again after that no one really knows exactly what the reason for the falling out was flan ends up dying in 2012 due to Parkinson's Stanley pwns is still alive to this day he left the country went to France and he gave up his citizenship in the United States he literally gave up his citizenship you guys know how all those blue-hair people were crying about if Trump wins they're going to leave the country Stanley pwns literally did that after he got rejected on Cold Fusion literally just [ __ ] said screw you media I'm dipping out of the country I'm going to France and you're never going to hear from me ever again that's that's what happened wild okay let's go to there's the Eugene malav part in this and they do some tests and it's really it's like there's a lot the tests are like in inclusive like they they've looked at the tests and they're like we it's not doing what we would expect to do from a cold fusion perspective oh yeah let's check in with Stephen Jones here at the end so Stephen Jones if you guys remember from our last stream Stephen Jones was the guy that was doing muon catalyzed fusion and he said there was no excess energy that's all [ __ ] and that like pwns and Flashman aren't doing it correctly their form of Fusion's dumb and my form of fusions the real form of fusion and I'm the person who really discovered it and by the way he was uh worked at the doe himself as well so Stephen Jones goes off a cliff and he starts talking about 911 conspiracies and so they basically destroy night Steven Jones over the cold fusion had become taboo only Wayne Owens representative for Utah wasted any breath on the topic here he is giving a passionate speech arguing for continued funding despite the earlier disappointments the way he's speaking you'd think he was addressing a packed audience but when the C-SPAN feed cuts to a wider shot of the chamber it feels almost like the camera crew has a sense of humor we should take a moment to revisit our friend Steven Jones who had spent the past several months portraying himself as the more pragmatic and rational version of pwn and Flashman he had accepted an offer from Yale to collaborate they had offered up their highly sensitive Neutron detectors remember Jones's claim was that he saw no excess heat but he did see an extremely Neutron Spike the confidence level is about one chance in 2 million right now that we have made a mistake Yale was even going to shut down its particle accelerator for a week to lower the background radiation this was a prime chance for Jones to cement his credibility but several months went by the collaboration went up in Flames I'm not sure you're doing the right experiment either motion we you have to look at the you look at just you are not sure you are not sure I'm doing the right experiment convinced that you're not doing the right Neutron counting Jones refus did you guys see that how awkward that was you see how awkward that was these guys oh wait why didn't it why does it go to them they're there these guys are like yelling at each other in some kind of conference like this whole thing was a [ __ ] show on all sides I don't think I've ever seen a bigger academic [ __ ] show like just burn down Academia and let's just start over from scratch that's that's how bad this was guys uh let's hit the super chats uh Michael $5 Don keep up the good work Ashen serious question how do you manage to stay so grounded while exploring these topics while getting so much push back uh great question you just don't give a [ __ ] you just don't give a [ __ ] about any of the redditors or the de Bonkers or any of the other stuff with respect to staying grounded the bigger question is uh and and honestly I just have so much experience dealing with trolls like you have to realize I'm 42 I internet didn't exist when I was born didn't exist and I've seen the whole internet when I was younger I used to spend a lot of time arguing with trolls on the internet going back to far.com and then read it before it was dog [ __ ] um and then I kind of gave up on I decided it wasn't worth it anymore because I realized a lot about people is that people are generally just scummy terrible human beings uh when they're hidden behind anonymity and when you meet them in person then they can be good people you know and it's like even the people that you would argue with and vitriolic with on the internet you can talk to them in real life and you realize oh like you were just trolling on the internet that's just kind of what people do people just act like douchebags they would never act like within the real world and when you look at from that perspective you know you don't really care but at the same time you can just treat them the same way right if they're G to treat you like crap then treat them like crap too it's the wild west out there on the internet what are they going to claim you hurt my feelings yeah well you shouldn't have been an [ __ ] right it is what it is chat the other thing is that when you understand there's this technology that is so Advanced that could be free energy for the world how do you do normal jobs normal stuff how do you live dayto day you just accept that life is what it is this is a this is a simulation this is a hologram that we're living in we're playing a video game where you don't want to die you want to live and enjoy the video game as long as you can enjoy it enjoy it for what it is we are A Primitive group of retards that knows practically nothing about our universe that might not even deserve to exist on it you know what just enjoy the little things enjoy hanging out with the people that you care about enjoy watching the sunrise enjoy watching the water flow down the river enjoy life and animals and taking your dog for a walk that's what I do end of the day whether or not we achieve anything from this I don't care I'm just going to try my best that's all I have no idea what's G to happen but I'm gonna try my absolute best thank you CH thank you for20 thank you appreciate it great donation love it please take a look it what Bob Greener says about the iron gr crenulated I think is what it is crenulated microspheres and evos you can literally see how they interact with matter and some spin in a helix pairs inside three Len reactors yeah I'm already familiar with this actually when you're talking about the the stuff basically CH is talking about the metals and stuff like that where they've been able to like bend them and rip them to shreds and it this is what cold fusion really is cold fusion is this phenomenon that we see going on related to plasmoids and plasmoids stand for plasma toroids plasmoids plasmoids and we see it doing things we don't understand we see it disappearing matter we see it transmuting elements and in some cases producing excess energy you know so how do we explain this this is cold fusion now we understand how cold fusion fits in with our understanding of the of uh reality The Ether because if we don't have to obey the conservation of energy or we can add another variable to our equation where we can exchange energy from this ether of energy now we can get excess energy out we can actually have energy and matter disappear as well go somewhere else in my conversation with Bob Greener he thought that you would teleport the matter anywhere you want center of the earth if you want might as well just be gone at that point teleported to the center of the sun Matter's gone so that's where I think we should be thinking about with respect to the cold fusion thing now what I want to go and show to real quick is I was looking for this one segment where there's this graphic this graphic right here so this is the three options that we think are Minal scales they were wait what didn't I just have that okay here we go observing you could see a neutron Spike from so this is the first option the neutron Spike option and 100 comments behind guys so bear with me helium 3 plus neutrons that's oneism radiation Source one room over a sodium lamp or a sudden power draw in the electrical grid nuclear the other option is tridium plus this is protons right so the other option is it could be producing tridium and proton so they have like three different ways they think that the math can work out and then the last one is that it could be producing gamma rays and helium so first option is helium 3 and neutrons second option is uh tridium and and protons and then the third option I think is gamma rays uh I thought it was with helium if I remember correctly what if all of these ways are wrong what if all three of these ways are wrong because this model that you're looking at right here all of this is based on hot Fus Fusion this is based on an understanding that you can never get more energy or less energy out of your equation than what you put into it but that's not true if there's an ether of energy that we can exchange energy with especially at the quantum levels and the atomic levels like we're dealing with here this is also going to have to make it very very difficult to run an experiment that you can prove Beyond any shadow of a doubt that this is happening and what it means is what I've been saying all along it means that we have to explain the science to people because you're never going to be able to convince somebody that doesn't even understand that this list of equations we're not limited to this if we're not limited to this the whole thing is our whole method for judging the experiment is different I think that this is what uh Ken or umz Richard fean was saying where he gets asked about magnetism and Richard feeman says basically he says you can't understand something unless you have a basis for it he says if I told you my grandma slipped and went to the hospital you don't question it because you understand that ice is slippery and that you can slip slip on ice and that old people fall a lot you don't question any of it but if I tell you that we can produce excess energy you question every aspect of an apparatus or experiment if I tell you we teleported an airplane I get a thousand questions ad nauseum and a lot that I I answer every single day if I tell you that UFOs are defending the Earth from the aliens like Patrick Jackson does nobody questions it they go yeah if there's UFOs are real because I'm a UFO Weirdo And sure they must be defending the Earth that makes sense and you go nobody ever says what's your evidence for that oh I draw circles around pictures that's my evidence no but like what's your actual like why is that theory have evidence for it makes it's ridiculous nobody questions it if you tell a story that M makes some comprehensive sense to people they don't question any of it if you tell people their whole universe is a lie and that physics is just completely wrong about significant aspects of How the Universe plays out they will question every little tidbit because they can't comprehend it it's not in their wheelhouse of understanding um let's go the last clip is Eugene Mala we're going to listen to here guys oh and for the record I thought somebody was saying something about CH chemistry ponds and Flashman were literally electrochemists that's what they were they were actually chemists but there's a direct Connection in this science because this is chemistry here right it goes direct I mean physics uh physics engineering and chemistry are all very closely related the last one's Eugene malv here we go I was wondering who's trying to cover that so basically at the end of this documentary he starts talking about the suppression aspect of it and he starts basically hating on all these people even though what there's what Eugene malov says here makes total sense will it come to pass will we ever get it so people are asking normal things because this lady calls in too and she's like why are they suppressing this from us because normal people look at what happened like we literally built an inquisition we literally built an inquisition and and took all the people that were posting positive results and we made them retract their papers I mean I'm G to say it one more time we made an inquisition of academic narcissistic egotistical people whose whole lives would have been a lie if cold Fusion's real made an inquisition in a panel of them run by the government and went to surprise people's Labs I I'm laughing because it's just ridiculous this actually happened of just the people that were posting positive results and then we debunked their apparatus and and whatever else was related to it until they got so embarrassed that they retracted their papers like on a mass scale not just like one or two but on a mass scale so people are seeing this and they're going I mean dude you're this is this is what suppression is this is what a conspiracy is like you couldn't have written the Playbook any more obviously and what do they do they just ridicule you this lady calls a nice lady she's like why are they suppressing free energy from us um sure uh among the most prominent of these conspiracy mongers was Eugene Malo at the time of the Utah announcement he was mit's Chief science writer and wrote many of their press releases he believed that researchers at MIT altered their data in an attempt to disprove cold fusion and resigned in protest he found in a magazine wrote books and even shot a documentary arguing that cold fusion was a victim of a conspiracy a widescale reputation trap field of Cal Fusion has been marginalized by The Establishment by creating certain myths about it and pajora of terminology being used which is highly inappropriate has no no no bearing at all on on what's being done called pathological science junk science it's just basically name calling the the the equivalent of demanding that cold fusion works like hot Fusion is like saying a transistor works like a radio tube it's idiotic it's stupid it makes no sense and yet that's what was demanded he will spend how can you call that guy a conspiracy theorist he literally wrote the press releases for mit's Science and he resigned his position in protest because he saw what was happening just like anybody else could see I just explained to you what was happening you're Eugene malov you're seeing inquisitions against anybody who post positive results and you're questioning whether or not they fudge the number num on the MIT results which was the main University that was used to debunk C to Cold Fusion to claim they weren't able to reproduce it and what did he also did he say oh and he says they use pejorative terms they start trying to they start trying to ridicule you that's not science that's not science at all what was the last part oh and pejorative ter oops Fusion works like hot Fus oh yeah and then the last part was that we were demanding that cold fusion was going to look like hot Fusion our whole apparatus our whole configuration for how our whole experimental bar that we had set was wrong we had the bar set wrong the whole time because we're expecting it to work like hot Fusion works but cold fusion doesn't work like hot Fusion it's not possible for it to work like hot Fusion so if we don't even have the bar set correctly you're never going to meet it if I set the bar up like 10 feet in the sky I'm never going to be able to jump over that bar because that's not what I I'm not that tall I can't do that I never could pull the bar down and I can jump over the bar I guess that's not a great analogy whatever okay so let's few more things we're going to look at tonight guys that's the story of cold fusion in a nutshell I was gonna try to find the part where he talks about Brian Josephson the part where he he attacks like I honestly don't even feel bad for Stephen Jones because stepen Jones acted like a [ __ ] they all did but when he ended up getting discredited himself for the 911 stuff like that was just poetic because Stephen Joneses was the main disinformation agent that attacked ponz and Flashman claiming that o excess heat energy wasn't possible and then he immediately goes all in a 911 conspiracy in the early 2000s until he gets discredited and has to leave his job as well it's like man everybody just getting hit on this one huh but now the more I look at more like you know I'm willing to look at his muon catalyzed Fusion I don't care how it's possible but I think that they're all wrong I think they're all wrong we're not going to look any more of this uh yeah we did enough on this on this video this Bobby Brockley guy admittedly he did a good job but when he start when he starts with the conspiracy theorists and all this [ __ ] like just get out of here bro go to go go to Blue Sky Where You Belong with all the other blueh hair people um Co so Ken shoulders on Cold Fusion guys here's the big thing so not only do did malov just say that hey we didn't set the bar correctly it's possible that the people that were doing the experiments I mean it's not even just possible it's likely if not factual that the people that were doing the experiments didn't even know how it was possible they didn't even know how it was working they didn't know the model that allowed it to be true because Engineers they do an experiment they say okay we need somebody to explain how what the observational results that we're seeing enter Ken's shoulders let's listen to Ken shoulders hopefully I have this clipped hold on let me make sure before I say this oh we might have to go to the whole thing I think we're gonna have to watch the whole thing because I don't think I clipped the cold fusion part sleep and awakeness I'm mooving that way I like this form of subliminal things in a little Transportation VI always like talking to K and trying to find the part where he talks about cold fusion or the uh cold fusion experts they can okay so so these um I think this is it the v's are circulating towards he says no it's called M Universe the okay okay I can't find it in there guys I'm sorry but cold fusion basically uh Hut uh sorry that's not hutchon that's Ken shoulders Ken shoulders basically says that all the people related to cold fusion none of them are doing it right none of them are doing it right he says this guy Edmund storms is probably the closest but he says none of them are really even that close he's basically saying I'm up here all these people like pwns and fman and all the other people they're way down here wow that's a bold claim to State he's basically saying I developed the evos which are the it's the UN it's the fundamental aspect of how what cold fusion is what it means what does it actually mean he says I found the self-organizing properties of this plasma that's out there that's real low energy nuclear Reactions where we're seeing transmutation of elements where we're seeing excess energy where we're seeing all these claims we don't need to put Palladium rods into water why were we doing it that way we are only doing it that way because Pon and fleshman did it that way people are so uncreative I can't believe that nobody tried to do a different version of the experiment some people changed what the rods were why not change the whole apparatus around and try to figure out what is it what's the underlying principle that's allowing this thing to occur if there's this underlying principle then we want to figure out how to engineer it this is the same thing where the Casmir effect the plates you put two plates close together they come together there's an attractive force and you say well you can extract energy from that if there's an attractive force a a motive a mechanical force like this we can extract energy from that and what do people say they say well you would have to pull the plates apart again if you want to do it again yeah okay don't use plates don't use plates then you use that same effect however that's happening let's do it in a way where we don't need plates when we're looking at the cold fusion experiment let's do cold fusion in a way where we don't need the Palladium rods we don't need the the bucket of water let's do it in a different me a different way it's more efficient nobody even thought about that as far as I can tell doesn't that tell us something about Humanity in general so let's take a look at since I couldn't find that clip let's just play a different Ken shoulders clip maybe I do have it maybe it's one of these other ones uh let's just play this positive things that could be useful you name something you want that's good and it' probably be the thing that does it for you if you say out of gravity propulsion properties are just incredible it will be able to push anything you want anywhere you want it and shroud stuff this is all written on some of these things on the web and when it andrs things it can allow them to disappear it does make Adams disappear in laboratory work well that's interesting you know because when they disappear I can transport all this stuff through somewhere else and it reappeared that's teleportation so it does that very nicely it's an energy source just incredible we can forget all of our energy problems we can forget all of our propulsion problems so he's directly here connecting these evos to teleportation transmutation free energy as well there is absolutely a connection between cold fusion and evos and evos and teleportation and free energy I think the issue is we've been looking at Cold Fusion wrong this entire time we shouldn't be trying to judge it on the merits of or judge it by the same measurement stick that we do hot Fusion it's a completely different Beast the only comparison is that there's energy involved and there's transmutation of elements involved that's it yeah and there were many Recreations of cold fusion there were many but then they all started getting discredited now let's take a look at uh Tom Bearden how is this possible guys how is all of this possible that was the question that I asked Patrick Riley how is free energy possible that's my test question the people that answer the question correctly will always say the same answer there's an ether there's an ether of energy that we can exchange energy with thereby always adhering to the law of conservation of energy we're not creating energy out of no where we're borrowing it all energy and mass that we see all comes from this ether if there was a big bang that energy came from The Ether as well belief of the time was that the vacuum was a thin material fluid the so-called material ether which we know today is false the ether is there but it's not the observable material fluid farity had reestablished this notion of lines of force but he thought the electromagnetic field or the electromagnetic disturbances in The Ether so to speak was really twanging strings the strings were under tension and when you had a disturbance what you really did was pluck the strings now Maxwell States very clearly that he set about to actually capture exactly what far was doing in his lines of force in the theory and that's what he did Maxwell's actual theory is 20 equations and 20 unknowns in Quan which is a higher topology algebra you can do things in that you can't dream of in doing in tensors wow that's what a querian is a querian is a higher dimensional algebra okay if I this is maybe a little beyond my expertise but is he basically saying that Maxwell was looking at the universe with an extra dimension of The Ether I think that's what he's saying is that the quorans that theory of higher dimensional algebra was based included the idea of The Ether and we said no The Ether is not real we're going to simplify Maxwell's equations and dumb them down and automatically by doing that we lost the ability to manipulate gravity we lost a source of free energy and we set ourselves back a 100 years and you certainly can't do in vectors and you certainly can't do with a theory that's taught it universities All That Remains to be rediscovered and uncovered you know what let's do one more Tom Bearden clip because Tom Bearden is just the goat just the goat the term vacuum has been used in several totally different senses uh some Engineers use it to me you just pump out all the air and that's called a vacuum and that's vacuum technology that's not what we're talking about we're talking about empty SpaceTime we know today for example the lamb shift in quantum mechanics showed that this EX change of energy between the vacuum and the charged particles is in fact real and generates real effects and you can measure it and he was given a Nobel Prize lamb was for doing that kind of measurement and showing it in the physics literature so we know it's real experimentally it's detected the Casmir shelf for example shows clearly that it's there and it does generate energetic effects in your actual materials it turns out that in the modern view the modern quantum mechanical view if you apply that knowledge that's been gained there what you find is that the vacuum is fiercely active it's a fierce energy flux and going in all directions at all times the energy density of that as estimated by various physicists is extremely high uh the the energy that's there is extremely dense and extremely Fierce this drives everything that we call physical reality from the quantum level right on up to the observed level and The observed world that we live in everything thing is energetically driven by the vacuum does that sound like I'm even starting to wonder if Tom beard and's Soul has inhabited my body because he's basically explaining just what I've been explaining people say like prove it it's already proven Zero Point Energy is already proven it's been proven for 75 years it's been proven for since the lamb shift he won the Nobel Prize again what we have to prove we have to prove that there's a sea of energy that's all we have to prove and it's been proven lamb shift Casmir effect aronov bom effect just to name a few these effects these observable reproducible effects prove that the space is not empty it proves that space is not empty it's not a debate there's no debate to be had it proves it and this is why you don't see people attacking me because there's nothing to attack I'm literally just explaining real physics and real science to you it's mostly just quantum mechanics part of the problem is that many physicists don't understand quantum mechanics the other problem is that they don't have any way to reconcile what we're seeing from the quantum mechanics perspective with general relativity but we do it's Zero Point Energy it's all these theories and papers about Zero Point Energy that have unified it all using The Ether ether is real it's the only answer it's all out there guys crazy Casmir effect can explain gravity too Casmir effect You could argue as a reverse type of gravity it's wild do I understand quantum mechanics yes yes I do I I would say at this point I'm not gonna say I'm a PhD or anything like that but I understand it I understand it well enough to go on major podcasts with with hundreds of thousands of millions of viewers and listeners and speak about it and have basically no one able to debunk me so yeah I'd say understand quantum mechanics that's a fair statement okay let's look at a couple we're goingon to look at a couple clips from how P off because they're relevant to what I just showed you we could have pushed them to Wednesday but I want to talk about something different on Wednesday oh what is this why do I don't want to log into Spotify what is this hold on I didn't even remember downloading Spotify did Spotify download on my computer okay never we got it we got it okay this is the interview I was talking about before I don't think we listen to these clips last time so I want to listen to them uh seven minutes here this is this guy Larry the consideration for the meeting was that the power source that uaps used may very well be something like lce confinement fusion and that the potential electr gravitics as applied to propulsion may be how they get around so there's an overlap there now that subsequent to that meeting we had another one on uh December 8th and we submitted a proposal to explore this between NASA and the US Navy thank you Larry and uh very much appreciate okay so he just basically says there Fusion is basically going to be the source of UFOs you know what maybe it's going to be Zero Point Energy as well let's go to the next clip now we're going to look at how P off at 18 minutes into this right around here key capabilities that we observe the ability to store or to generate electricity in a very such a maneuverable cost oh that's great thank you several years ago the Navy actually contacted me on means to verify that these were not aircraft that had a distortion of the SpaceTime metric around the aircraft itself I don't know whether that fell on Def ears or where it went Hal can you comment on what you think the power source of these things might be then okay chat Hal Poff can you comment on what the power source of these things we might have to review this again on Wednesday or Friday guys that's Hal POF that just got asked what's the power source of UFOs this podcast well I I certainly wish I knew one potential option that we've been exploring but haven't made progress in is is the fact that what we call empty space is not really empty it's full of quantum fluctuation energy and the numbers associated with it that come out of calculations from Quantum Theory show it it's enormous so if there any way of tapping that that that could possibly be a source otherwise likely some kind of fusion in in very small vies so he just said Zero Point Energy or Fusion those are the options guys so pick your poison chat the only possible even theoretical Concepts we have to how a UFOs where their energy can come from is Zero Point Energy and cold fusion now let's go play the clip so we just again I'm going to I'm keeping it as Baseline for my people out there that are not scientific based here you go this is your favorite part Hal POF Godfather of Zero Point Energy Godfather of UFO disclosure just said the source of energy for UFOs is either Zero Point Energy or cold fusion now let's listen to what Mike gold said during the UFO hearing just several days ago is is a that true B are you guys hearing the reports of that and see I think moving forward in regards to technology Mr Gold if you can answer this real quickly some of these aircraft it's seems that they are operating off of energy that we don't currently have uh but just yes or no in your opinion if we were able to obtain that would that impact Humanity for the better or negative would certainly save us some money on funding an aremis this is a national security issue that if there is such technology out there we're not the only country that might have access to it we don't want to be on the wrong end of technological surprise so this guy from NASA and big a who just asked he's asked what's the energy source and his response was it's a national security issue so let's just do basic math how Poff says the energy source is zero point energy or cold fusion Mike gold says the energy source is a national security issue okay delete energy source from both sides now you have national security issue equals cold fusion and or0 Point Energy national security issue equals cold fusion and 0 point energy and we just watched a documentary in the history of cold fusion where it literally just said that the department of energy set up an inquisition of only the labs that were showing positive cold fusion results and debunked them wow wow okay uh wait where did it go away oh there it is okay uh two more quick comments there's actually like three more comments in here how put off this this interview is wild okay then he talks about energy densities at 25 minutes here where there might be overlap in the observational science so what what might you share on the electromagnetics and some of these other Advanced physics and Quantum one more thing I want to say here and it's only GNA be very quick is that this is the guy that should be getting an interview to Congress we don't need any more [ __ ] about aliens and we it's got it can't be us it must be aliens like it's us the way we prove it's us is we talk to Hal POF and we go Hal POF explain to the normies out there how Zero Point Energy unifies everything and that we need to have an ether that'll get us disclosure if Hal POF goes to Congress and is like hey The Ether is real everybody's dumb media is gonna go crazy they're gonna go wild is there really an ether have we been idiots the whole time and then Ashton forb is going to come in and go yes you have you've been idiots the whole time here the dozens of scientific papers including the 38 DDS that all explain these physics going back decades decades and decades and decades you guys have just been ignoring it because you've been waiting for Neil degrass Tyson or Bill NY the Science Guy to come up and tell you what to think these guys are too dumb to ever even understand the concept of The Ether they're never gonna get on board with it until everybody else already has that's how a lot of these people roll there's something called like fence sitters if you're a fence sitter you don't take a position you're just like uh I'm going to wait until other people decide if it's real or not then I'm going to choose can't stand it okay an additional way you shared well in in quantum physics we know that so-called empty space is is just full of a tremendous amount of quantum fluctuation energy and as you go to higher and higher frequencies the energy density is extremely high so we can put on paper and say well if we could tap this then we'd have all the energy we need because the numbers associated with it are very high but it's the engineering to get access to it I mean in principle we know you can get access to it for example if you take a couple of plates and put them close together and just leave them there this energy will push the plates together and you'll get a little puff of energy that's known as a Casmir effect and so this has gone beyond just being an idea the energy is there and it can do work unfortunately in the case of the plates if you let them come together get your little puff of energy and then you pull them apart to start the process over you've got to put in as much energy to pull them apart as as as you got when they came together so it's obviously going to take some some really extremely creative thinking to try to figure out ways where you could tap that energy of which there's plenty so look at how Hal Poff looks at the problem Hal Poff says yes okay plates they come together obviously that can extract energy the question is if you're going to reset the plates now you'd have to use the same amount of energy so if you want a repeatable process we have to think of something different notice that how PUD off doesn't debunk it he doesn't debunk it he says we have to think of a different approach for perpetual extraction we know the energy is there we know we can extract these are factual statements the energy density is huge we know that we can extract it the question is how do we extract it efficiently that's the only question that's an engineering problem love love listening to How P off it's crazy I mean guy's a genius okay 33 minutes let's listen to this part how we get through and communicate through up to 25 miles of ice on icy worlds like Jovian Moon Europa and the saturnian moon Enceladus the same problem applies to the Navy trying to communicate through uh thousand meters of seawater this brings an interesting segue to at what point are these discussions of a concern for National Security versus something that we want to keep open to prevent stove piping and prevent pursuing that data as uh Ryan pointed out it would be very good in various settings to be able to explore the data taken by the Navy in that case at what point do we compromise the National Security one can make the case that we com we compromise it by stovepiping and classifying things so groups are not able to examine the data but I'd like if you will to comment if you will briefly on your thoughts on this what should should be exposed and disclosed and what should not be now this is crazy this is like that's the that's the number one question if I had three questions for halap POF they basically just got asked I now know what halap POF thinks he's he's literally about to be asked just was asked what do we do about National Security what do we do about National Security about free energy well uh obviously I'm uh I bring pressure stove piping is basically like you're separating you're you're compartmentalizing the data you're making it very very difficult for the public to get access to it toward the direction of that's the context of what he's talking about having uh more transparency uh because the stove piping has been been an absolute disaster when we set up the UAP investigations for for the Pentagon for the defense intelligence agency what we found was absolutely killing Forward Motion was that everything was so Stoke piped so you could have people sitting at desks next to each other but not sharing uh what they were doing so in fact uh we went to a lot of effort to see if we could get some of this information out of the stove pipes and passed on to the broader scientific Community but it turned out that was basically an impossible task uh because of the compartmentalization and so on so we took another approach which was okay if we were to get information out of the stove pipes who would we take it to to investigate well you take to the top scientists in all the various areas so what we did on the DIA program was to say okay let's approach 38 in this case actually I was responsible for this and commissioned 38 of the best scientists in the world in their various areas of expertise to say well where would their field be in the year 2050 so we figured that would be the best shot at getting the most advanced thinking so he's talking about the dirds here 38 of them the ones I just mentioned these are probably the most important scientific papers so far of the 21st century probably the most important ones because if you add them all up it's it's Star Trek future and he told them he pal POF went to all his black project engineer friends and the scientists and physicist and the academic community that he trusted who knew and understood that he believed were were actually legit not brain dead MSM type people and he got them to write all these papers about what do you think the universe what do you think the world's going to look like in 2050 that's not even that far away from now that's 25 years from now and we've looked at those papers and those papers are alarming because we already have that technology the military defense CS already have that technology so basically those papers are pretty much just telling the future for us Pretty much telling the future now last clip I want to play I found the time stamp for it is is 157 we might be able to get around that piig example of that that making that bet on the very high variance high risk High reward outcome is going to be a great way to also contribute to pushing the envelope and pushing things forward I have a perfect example of that that Larry forley and I are working on and that is once your mind is open to the idea that well maybe everything is possible so you look at a particular uh scientific situation like for example you send electromagnetic waves and they can't get through shielding you can't talk to a submarine or whatever so once you have this new way of thinking about thing you say okay well is there possibly a way that we might be able to get around that and so Larry and I both are pursuing Technologies where we realized okay if we kind of pull out the electromagnetic part of the electromagnetic spectrum and deal with the potentials that underly it there's kind of an extended electrodynamics that would get through shielding so the thing is it's having the right mind mental attitude where you start to ask questions about well is what I think is true can we get around it somehow it's actually leading to technology so for example my my present work right now with a defense contractor is developing the quantum communication process that would let us get through shielding and that's what Larry forley is also working so how off right there in our last segment for the night just talked about his patent his patent that's been out there and approved five different times since the 1998 since 1998 through 2021 it's been improved five different times it's a Quantum communication patent that can get through shielding and when he talks about shielding he's talking about seawater to talk to submarines and he's talking about plasma why would he be talking about plasma why would we need shielding why would we need a communication to get through plasma two reasons one we have Hypersonic spy planes that we need to communicate with that use a plasma sheath and two we've got plasma drones we've got plasma drones that we need to be able to communicate with and we need to be able to fly around using Quantum Communications if you haven't noticed we just use the word Quantum to basically just describe like Zero Point Energy because people understand the concept of quantum it's a it's a buzzword that doesn't really you know doesn't have a negative connotation they don't understand the concept of zero point energy and free energy and what have okay I think we're going to stop there for tonight we went for a while I'm starving I got to go get food guys uh want to thank everybody for being in the Stream peace and love to everybody who's out out there uh I hope we get the future that we all want but we can't just pretend like it's all roses out there world's not that simple I'm not really sure what will happen with this technology getting out to the public but we deserve the truth and to stop being lied to by these corrupt bureaucrats and administrative Elite who are gatekeeping this information from the world simple as that guys hope you guys have a great night I told somebody we'd play the I think we said we play the mmm song we haven't played in a while to close this out guys so I hope you guys enjoy the song am I scared not really honestly I've have come to accept death even if that were to come at this point I've grown disillusioned with Humanity in general to be honest with you guys and the only way that I will be reill usion with our future is if we get 0o point energy out there uh if if we can get it out there to the public change the world just change really that's it it's not even getting the energy out there I just want to change the world that's what I really want I want to change the world whatever that takes have a great night guys love you m7x let's talk on Wednesday Wednesday the plan so far is I think we're going to talk about cold electricity Cold Light cold cathode effect I think we're going to look at into cold electricity we heard about a lot of that today I want it sounds like a cool topic I kind of want to dig into it over the next couple days if you guys want to help out post papers in the Discord I'll post the link when we're closing out here and we'll look into this cold light Theory see if there's something to it have a great night mh2 7x love y'all peace it's m m m H7 until you do some research don't talk to 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