"The Biggest Lie Ever Told About UFOs and Free Energy" | Steven Greer on PBD REACTION
Summary
This video is Ashton Forbes reaction to an interview featuring Dr Steven Greer discussing UFO technology and Zero Point Energy with Patrick Bet-David PBD Forbes provides extensive commentary on Greer claims about free energy disclosure and criticizes Greer understanding of the physics involved He emphasizes that Zero Point Energy technology represents an all-or-nothing Pandora Box where revealing any component inevitably leads to full disclosure including weaponization capabilities Forbes argues that Greer strategy of selectively disclosing only peaceful energy technologies while keeping propulsion and weapons classified is fundamentally flawed impossible The
discussion explores economic implications of Zero Point Energy release including potential destruction of fossil fuel industries job losses and massive economic disruption requiring decades of transition Forbes analyzes political decision making around technology release and contrasts different perspectives ranging from complete prohibition to full disclosure He discusses the existence of over six thousand suppressed patents potentially containing Zero Point Energy fusion and other advanced technologies The video examines connections between Zero Point Energy unlimited energy capabilities and artificial intelligence suggesting that unlimited energy would make AI unstoppable and potentially supporting
simulation theory hypotheses Forbes addresses questions of human consciousness upload to technology as potential future scenario and discusses whether healthy humans would choose immortality through cloud upload versus biological life span He evaluates corruption motives behind maintaining secrecy including money laundering operations using USAID funds within UFO research programs and analyzes Steven Greer credibility regarding claims of refusing billion dollar buyout offers.
Key Claims (13)
Steven Greer incorrectly believes Zero Point Energy technology can be selectively disclosed revealing only peaceful applications while keeping propulsion weapons classified.
Evidence: Greer statement in interview that we can bring out safe technologies for peaceful use keep things that fly classified until world more stable
Zero Point Energy technology is an all-or-nothing Pandora Box where revealing any component inevitably leads to full disclosure including weaponization.
Evidence: Forbes analysis demonstrating disclosure of any aspect leads to public understanding of underlying physics which enables weaponization
Government suppressed Cold Fusion 1989 and other over-unity technologies precisely because public recognition of energy extraction from vacuum leads to gravity manipulation understanding.
Evidence: Forbes explanation that brainwashing prevents gravity manipulation acceptance discovered over century ago Cold Fusion suppression 1989
Patrick Bet-David producer demonstrated shallow understanding of Zero Point Energy by Googling basic definitions during interview rather than hosting expert explanation.
Evidence: Direct observation of producer Googling 'zero point Quantum vacuum SpaceTime' displaying generic AI explanation during live show
Zero Point Energy exists within quantum mechanics framework established 1915 Max Planck Casimir effect known for 70 years not whole new physics.
Evidence: Historical scientific precedence quantum mechanics origin 1915 Casimir effect documentation 70 years established physics discipline
Zero Point Energy disclosure would eliminate poverty within twenty years while simultaneously solving environmental problems fossil fuel pollution.
Evidence: Economic analysis Three billion people in poverty would emerge homelessness poverty would be eliminated fossil fuel pollution eliminated
Fossil fuel industry economic disruption from Zero Point Energy release would destroy conventional energy sector overnight though new industries would emerge.
Evidence: Forbes business analysis Patrick Bet-David recognition millions of jobs lost oil companies bankrupt overnight bigger than other financial scandals combined
Technology suppression represents political decision making with competing perspectives ranging from complete prohibition to full immediate disclosure.
Evidence: Political spectrum analysis extreme positions against touching technology opposite extreme advocating full acceptance regardless consequences
Steven Greer claim that world must achieve stability peace before advanced technology disclosure constitutes unrealistic fairy tale never achieved in human history.
Evidence: Forbes historical analysis documenting perpetual human warfare throughout history never existing stable peaceful period requiring many generations unlikely ever
Over six thousand suppressed patents exist potentially containing Zero Point Energy fusion and advanced energy technologies.
Evidence: Reference to Invention Secrecy Act 1951 maintaining approximately six thousand classified patents energy technology applications
Energy is the only limiting factor for artificial intelligence development meaning Zero Point Energy would make AI unstoppable.
Evidence: Forbes analysis connecting unlimited Zero Point Energy to unlimited AI processing capabilities supporting simulation theory likelihood
USAID funds potentially used for money laundering operations supporting classified UFO research programs bypassing auditing oversight.
Evidence: Forbes analysis of financial mechanisms enabling hidden technology development USAID expenditure patterns Black Project funding
Steven Greer claim of refusing two billion dollar buyout lacks credibility as nearly everyone would sell out for much smaller amounts.
Evidence: Forbes personal assessment that people would accept ten million or one hundred million for biggest secret in history characterizing two billion refusal improbable
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- February 9, 2025
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let's focus back on science okay like free energy that I think for quite some time you're going to leave alone the propulsion systems because obvious something that moves at that speed it can be a missile delivery system you just can't put the plans for that out on the internet and say go Bill one so right off the bat I'm sorry I have to jump in right away stepen Greer here saying you can't put the schematics for the warp drives on the Internet it's like bro this is where I'm realizing Steven Greer doesn't even understand the physics this is probably this is probably his mistake this
was the pitfall that Stephen Greer made right here guys listen up this is the most important part right here this is the most important part Stephen Greer thinks that you can let out everything but just not like the scary stuff it's not how this works full screen the problem is with zero point energy is All or Nothing the moment you open this door and realize this physics exists this ether exists that there is this energy in this zero point field all around us super high amount of energy the moment you open the door to free energy it's all coming there is no hiding just Su
of it this is in fact why the government has been hiding all of it they've been hiding all of it because they know they can't let any of it come out because if they let any of it come out even one threat of it come out even 1989 cold fusion where they weren't even doing it with plasma even that the moment people saw over Unity they had to shut it down the moment you realize you can produce more energy people have to ask the question where's the energy coming from and they have brainwashed us into thinking that we cannot manipulate gravity we can manipulate everything
about our universe but just for some reason we can't manipulate gravity we have electricity we can manipulate every physical phenomenon in our universe gravity though we just can't manipulate that one no idea where it's coming from they've just brainwashed us to think that look how advanced we are do you really think we can't figure out gravity you kidding me we figured out gravity like a hundred years ago guys a hundred years ago they can't let any of the stuff come out because it's a Pandora's box if you don't understand that reference it's a Genie in a Bottle once the genie gets out of the bottle
it's not going back in once Pandora's Box opens up all of it's coming out so this is where Greer messed up Greer messed up right here because you don't get a pick and choose and this is why Greer doesn't realize he imagines a future where we release only the good stuff and hide the bad stuff hide the weapons the government the people hiding this the defense contractors they realize that's not possible they realize it's all or nothing we have no choice because people are going to figure it out the moment we reveal any of it's true and this is why Greer has not been successful
in my opinion in terms of getting disclosure however the thing the technologies that allow for energy generation from What's called the zero point Quantum vacuum of SpaceTime meaning within the fabric of the space in this room you can generate enough power to run your building he said the name of the live stream everybody oh it's the alert he said the live stream chat with no pollution no electric bill no nuclear no oil gas coat no solar it's a bro I'm sorry to keep interrupting but whoever Patrick B David's uh producer guy is he literally Googled what Stephen Greer said 0 point Quantum vacuum SpaceTime he
literally just Googled it and he's got the a the automatic Google AI default response up chat come on man yeah you might as well just say it's space energ energ chat I feel like I I might actually just start calling it space energy unironically CU that's the level of like intelligence I feel like we're at at the moment that's where I feel like just Humanity's at he should if Patrick B David's gonna have Stephen Greer on and he's going to like have his producer like randomly Googling like this that like just basic concepts of Zero Point Energy I'll come in and explain it look pbd
bro I don't no disrespect love you I'll in and just explain it like there's energy all around us we can manipulate this energy I just did on this live stream I can do it off the cuff five minutes 10 minutes however long you want me to explain it you don't need to Google the AI and have the AI like awkwardly explain it in the background that would be the point of the interview would be explaining how it's possible how to interact with it whole new physics and that's been documented proven to exist and a whole new it's not a whole new physics either like this
is the problem like Dr Greer never went never learned the physics he never learned the science he went through med school and he probably was like I don't not going to go do this I already did all that he's like it's a whole new phys it's not a whole new physics bro it's just quantum mechanics it's just quantum mechanics it's an existing branch of physics it's existed since 1915 with Max plank this physics has been out there for a long ass time nothing new about it it's been out there for like 70 years or like even even the Casmir effect been out there for like
70 years and real quick this actually is kind of the plan by the way so this might happen thank you very much for who made this appreciate that donation this is basically the plan you are probably going to see more content more out there I don't know how it's going to play out we're just running with it guys right now we're still doing what we've been doing live streams reviewing the physics what have you um like I said what are my goals my goals are to educate people so that's why we're here thank you guys for being here with me by the way I appreciate
it yeah if you don't mind hitting the like And subscribe I I do appreciate if you do that as well okay enough enough hating existed for decades now that coming out would eliminate poverty in 20 years but it would also fix the environmental problems and even if you don't think there's any climate change you certainly have to admit that there are 5 million people a year dying from particulate matter in their airways and and heart and lungs from burning fossil fuels nuclear power is even worse you have so basically he's talking about you know we could fix poverty this is what I like about Greer
this is where we 100% agree is that this Zero Point Energy this free energy that's out there this can fix like all the major problems with the world free energy no more homelessness no more poverty no more pollution no more climate change all of that can be solved and that's huge this space energy is going to change everything but that's where the level we're at we're literally should be looking at it like this magical thing and we have just now unobtanium it's basically our unobtanium guys for my avatar fans that are out there an ionizing radiation that's around for millions of years when we so
these are great solutions that would be the I mean be the tie that would lift All Ships economically three billion people who are in poverty would come up out of poverty and so now you're now there're gonna be some losers you know maybe some yeah you're maybe you own a drill baby drill you're gonna be like wait a minute you want to bring zero point Quantum but wait wait but you know this isn't this is not like an app that you download this is something that's going to take decades to get out doesn't matter but yeah the future Market are going to go oops we
don't need oil anymore so you know I was talking to the managers of a$2 trillion mutual fund this this is disruption at the highest level I mean if if this if this is so so this is the part that I'm thinking about you're but you're not going to get the golden age by using Technologies from the 1800s yeah but what you're gonna get if if the if the you if if it's the zero point Quantum invention secrecy Act of 1951 and they released those let's just say that as is all real it is let's say that exists and that is released um millions of jobs
are lost in oil okay yeah but tens of millions are created in new industry I don't I don't I'm not all I'm see all I'm thinking about is knowing how Trump moves oh I understand for Trump to want to do what he does and he's only got four years right this actually because to do what you want to do you'll need 20 30 years yeah but it has to start sometime so this is why I want to talk to Patrick B David is can you imagine the conversation we have because Patrick B David understands business I want to talk to different people for different reasons
and the reason why I want to talk to pbd is because he understands business and he understands economics and he understands politics and Trump and this is where like he Greer off guard here he's like okay I'm with you this is pbd coming in going I'm with you okay we got free energy damn this is crazy like this would actually if this is real it's gonna just destroy the economy like millions of people are going to lose their jobs companies will go bankrupt overnight it'll be bigger than all the other Financial scandals we had all put together in terms of like like the disruption to
the economy but at the same time there will be new jobs that will be produced new jobs we have to guys we have to be serious this is really what is going to happen yeah and you might say so what who cares this is a valid point to make right now I don't have a strong opinion on what how we should view the morality of it but what I'm pointing out is that it's a political decision right now we're realizing this is a political decision look at what look at what we just learned in this live stream we've understood Zero Point Energy we've understood that
it can be produced we've understood that maybe it's from Aliens or who knows who cares honestly and now we've learned well it's not quite as simple as hey just release it to everybody it's going to like ruin a lot of people's lives and change the entire face of how our economy works as well and how are we going to deal with that and what's the right thing to do and this is where it becomes political some people on the far extreme will say that we should not mess with this technology we should not touch this technology that will be one political position another political position
would be the opposite let's go all in with it go all in With It screw the haters anything that happens happens just accept it and this was another point I made I want to address another thing that I said which was that Emerald Robinson said that she thinks Larry Ellison who's the owner of Oracle and the other billionaire people or whatever are trying to upload their Consciousness to the internet to the cloud and I said yeah I said I've literally been saying that for like weeks now if not months and I've been saying that I'm going to be the first one to do it now
I'm saying that tongue and Chic I'm saying that tongue and Chic why because I want people to think about this and then Emerald said well she's a Christian I'm a Christian so and I and in my thought in my head I thought so what what is what is the inconsistency between Christianity and AI I don't see any inconsistency at all but what I want people to think about is this is what are you going to be thinking when you're the last person who's not uploaded to the cloud let me say that again this is going to be your trippy thought for tonight guys where I'm
going to freak you guys out okay imagine a future where we can upload ourselves our Consciousness to the internet but when you do that let's say you die when you do that right it takes your your your brain or something to do that and let's decide that everybody's already doing it everybody's doing it and you're one of the last people say no it's it's my religion that's saying that I can't do that it's blasphemy all your friends are uploading themselves to the cloud living on the cloud up there huh what are you going to say then you're just going to live your life while all
your friends your family people you care about maybe upload themselves to clouds that's a that's a weird thing to think about man that might be a real reality that might be a it is kind of like committing suicide not to upload yourself to the cloud because the people in the cloud are going to live forever the people in their organic bodies are going to fade away this is dark chat and why do why do I bring this up it's not just to freak you out I want to teach you two things one I want to teach you this is a political issue you can see
political issues everywhere everything I just said right there and then I want you to think about the gravity of the situation the gravity the darkness of the situation we're dealing with what I just explained to you is a very probable scenario for our future might not be inevitable but probable future and if there is this transhuman aspect to this whole phenomenon because of like the rate at which technolog is advancing stuff like that then there is a connection between this UFO phenomenon this Zer Point Energy and this transhumanism and what's really important is that if there is zero point energy then AI is going to
be unstoppable if you have access to unlimited energy energy is the only limiting factor for an AI that's it that's the only limiting factor and so this is where you think about that and you go okay well then we're definitely in a simulation that an AI created right now we're probably already in one AI is trans AI kind it could be maybe I don't know maybe you program it not to be who knows who knows chat okay that was all that was all I needed to do to freak you out let's just finish this bad boy up it's not going to be under his and
and and then the other part is if that two Star General R mhm 30 years ago couldn't get you for 2 billion Trump's Administration is not going to be able to afford you you know what you know for four no no okay okay okay okay okay we're gonna skip ahead after this Stephen Greer did not get offered $2 billion do to sell out literally anyone on this planet is going to sell out for $2 billion and to be in the club if if you're not willing to sell out for2 billion then they would just kill you way before that $2 billion is a lot of
money chat I would sell out for way less money than $2 billion I would sell out for a100 million that's 20 times less money than two billion that's not very much money on these people so I I I don't trust anybody that says they won't sell out everybody will sell out so if you're saying you won't sell out you probably already did sell out you probably already did you're crazy two billion dollars you didn't sell out get out of here dude just get out right now full of no chance you didn't sell out no chance bro it a it ain't worth it especially when you
especially when you know the risks and especially when you know that like this could destroy the planet of course you would sell out for a two billion dollars sell out for a fraction of that I'm not because that was a corrupt Enterprise i' work I work with anyone who's honest because I'm a very honest person the problem is most people are have a price where they can be blackmailed or bribed or threatened yeah and then they flip and i' yeah and my price used to be $10 million in a Scarlett Johansson clone but do you see any Scarlett Johansson's around here I'm mysteriously missing I'm
uh devoid of scarlet Johansson [Music] clones I keep saying I'll be I can be bought out I feel like $10 million was like pretty goddamn cheap like if I'm just being honest 10 million people would be like Ashton kind of fumbled the bag he only got $10 million for the biggest conspiracy of all time I feel like that's pretty cheap that's why it's a 100 million right now at least a 100 million people will be like okay Ashton this over he you know screwed us over on free energy he rug pulled us he sold out he took the 100 million but you know what I
would do the same thing most people would be thinking that most people would be thinking that so but fine they must want it out and this is where people are like hey asht Ashton must be working with people that wanted out yeah there probably must be people that wanted out I would have I would have bought me off at 10 million I would have bought me off if I was the yeah I would have used the US Aid money I'd have been like us Aid money $10 million Ashton Forbes for um strategic uh research I don't know just make up anything that's how this works
you guys don't realize how this game works like you're either cheating well and cheating often or you're just probably getting taken advantage of this USA stuff and you think USA's all of it it's just a drop in the bucket and it's the same they're doing with the UFO research SE Arch like they're just basically money laundering and then money laundering so that the stuff can't be found in an audit and then it doesn't matter if it's successful or not on the plus side that leads to some results where you find out how gravity works on the negative side is definitely illegal it's definitely like you
know I don't know if money laundering is the right term I'm not a finance specialist but you know it's in that vein of what they're do what they're pulling off that's why I keep bringing up the Aid thing is awesome because it's waking people up and people are going to start to realize how they've been moving the money around to like cover all this up because they have been covering up these UFOs and covering up this technology 100% the scary part the parts it's going to mess with people's heads is going to be not that they hit that all this technology exists that part's not
going to be the part that's going to mess with people's heads the part that's going to mess with people's heads is how easily and how corrupt they were in lying so openly about it and lying by like omission and like ridicule and all these propaganda T tactics that like aren't based on logic and reason that's what's going to break people's minds because they trusted people to be there the people that told them the truth and it's going to turn out they were 100% full of that's what's GNA make people make people crack chat we've seen this happen long term years to tool and that's 1951
I want to know what they have there the 6,000 okay then the patents the 6,000 patents that's actually a good idea releasing the patents is actually a good idea I had not thought about that but that would be one way to say here's all the stuff that's out there that we've been hiding and it's probably a lot of stuff based on like Zero Point Energy and fusion and things the topics we've been talking about so the more I thought about that the more I thought that's actually a really good idea now a lot of the patents are going to be nonsense they're just going to
be but some of them are going to be very very legit so that's an interesting topic in terms of which patents that they hid maybe that could be one way to go about it yeah whatever it's a little over 6,000 that they have in there right whoops correct um I'm going straight if we release these um it's chaos on top of chaos it's like softt when you release a a great idea or software and it's out there and others can get access to it it's done you can never take it back right when they invented a nuclear bomb you can never take it back again
right now it's out there right if they go this Direction I mean this is this is bigger than preventing big Pharma from advertising on TV oh this is massive but but also what's the human future without it see in that moment right there I could tell that Patrick B David understood the implication he's like this is bigger than big Pharma this is like he's looking at he's like the how they' been able to hide this right right I mean I have 12 grandkids it's like what what what kind of dystopian situation are with eight billion people trying to live on this planet and destroying our
own nest because go ask for the guy driving an F-150 pickup truck as a carpenter that you know and what he makes and what what if he would like to have something in his vehicle that has an infinite range doesn't have to be plugged in and has quote unquote free energy they do so what is I love I'm so glad I randomly clicked on that say go ask that guy in Ford F-150 driveing his pickup truck would you like to have free energy okay Mr for Mr or Mrs Ford F1 in fact I'm thinking of a specific person right now Mary tiles Texas on X
I want to ask her I might I might troll her this weekend and ask would you want your pickup truck maybe she drives a cyber truck whatever she drives on would you want it to have an unlimited fuel source and unlimited range in your pickup would that help you in your daily life while you're doing your uh carpentry work or your whatever uh what do they call it trade work right would that help you out I think the answer of course is going to be yes is it yes the point being this the technology is not being hidden in the benefit of the little people
this technology could help out everyone at the smallest levels it's being hidden because the Fat Cats the bureaucrats the elites of the world they're the ones that fear at getting out they're not afraid of the Mary tiles Texas and what she's going to do with free energy they they can trust her she's somebody they need to do services for her for them so that's the big point of what Greer is making right here that I just made honestly even a little bit better than he did is in the interest of 993 and effect a life on Earth will be unaffected by it I said yes
so that kind of thought because I'm even having this meeting with you and some other researchers talk to these guys who are defecting from these black sites one of their main objectives is exactly what I describe is to start an entity to bring these Technologies out the ones that can be brought out safely that would be for peaceful use of energy and also technologies that would assist with healing health and healing and those exist let those come out keep the things that fly you know classified which they should be until the world's more stable but you forever bring out just the safe technology what are
you talking about man this is see this is where he goes in the mode now I get it why was Greer not successful because of what he just said right there it's like bring out just the safe Technologies we're GNA wait till the world is ready wait until where're the world is more stable the world is more stable chat what are you talking about we are not going to change not anytime soon not in our lifetimes not in our children's lifetimes it's G to take many many many generations for us to get to a point where we're not a violent species that's at war with
one another if ever probably never has there ever been a time in human history where we've not been at war no and you're not hiding this technology until that mythical time comes either that's not happening this is where I super disagree with Steph Greer and I think this is the view of one of the factions that's hiding this as well is that well we'll let it come out a little bit of it come out at a time but we can't let the good stuff come out because it's too dangerous and we have to wake up Humanity's Consciousness and tell them about aliens we tell them
about aliens they Consciousness will wake up and then they'll we'll get to a stable peaceful time and then we'll give them the good stuff that is a fairy tale that is a fairy tale that's not reality that's not the real world uh that's not how this works so if that was their plan if that's anyone's plan out there you need to work on a new plan you to work on a new playbook and come with a new plan yeah I want to teleport it's really it's just such a simple phrase I want to teleport I don't want to get on a tin can flying through
the sky and have my plane get hit by a helicopter or randomly get teleported by some orbs or start on fire from some batteries I just don't want to get on an airplane anymore is that too much to ask Chad I feel like this sounds kind of crazy but it's not really that too much to ask in the context of what we've been disclosing I want a portal that I can just walk through and I can get to the other side