Free Energy Discussion and Q&A

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# Free Energy Discussion and Q&A n [Music] n [Music] oh [Music] [Music] oh [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] he [Music] [Music] you he [Music] he [Music] and we're live it's free energy Friday and my God what an episode welcome Ash Forbes and the forby community MH370 mystery solved well pretty much solved still got to find the plane and hopefully the living people but uh yeah the technology and uh part of how that technology operates is through super conducting overunity and harnessing vacuum energy all of which is part of the this free energy uh science and technology which you have been covering in depth every night sir thank you for what you've been doing and cheers all right gotta Cheers Cheers definitely a martini night when you are disclosing potentially the capability of free energy over Unity to the world I think you definitely deserve a martini and you got to make sure it's got blue cheese olives in it so uh that's how I'm rolling tonight thank you Bernie uh for discussing here tonight with me all this stuff uh you know the reason why I wanted to talk to you is that you're one of the first people that I spoke to early on you know with alien scientists I know that you love real science that is you know suppressed from the world so I think it was the perfect opportunity to discuss with you and hopefully tonight we can talk uh uh you know get through some of the questions that people have around the situation um I know it's not an ideal situation for a lot of people out there a lot of people have this uh glamorized idea that someone will just tell everybody the secrets to free energy and that everybody will be producing their own free energy devices but that's not really unfortunately how the world Works uh money makes the world go around economics and business are at play but I do want to be as transparent as I can about the situation and how uh free energy over Unity devices work and perhaps overunity is the better word to use uh so that there's not this misconception about the idea that oh well just means that everything is free because there's nothing there's no such thing as a free lunch in this world even when it comes to overunity and free energy and actually to be even more specific I like I do like using the term overunity but I was corrected by Jason verelli that even that is incorrect because it isn't overunity because you're not getting free energy from nowhere it's just that you have a higher Dynamic open source system that is taking the energy from a different open radiant Source such as uh just heat energy in the gas around you in your environment or whether it's light energy Sound Energy um uh static energy AKA DC current radio waves there there's so many different sources of it and all it is is converting that radiant free everywhere existing energy into usable electrical energy within your system circuit and um load yeah so on that front that was a great way to describe it uh you know I want to describe the concepts to people so as I said I signed an NDA so I will never be able to explain exactly how the particular device that I was told how it works I won't be able to explain that to people but I think explaining the concepts can help because like you pointed out I think there's multiple ways to produce overunity I want to inspire people to make their own devices invent their own devices uh if that's what they want to follow at the end of the day these things these is not some simple thing that anyone's just going to do right at the you know at their tabletop you know you might need specialized education for it I would say it's equivalent to trying to build like a cell phone you know it's not something you're just gonna pick up and go oh okay here's the schematics I'm gonna piece that together uh but what I want to say is two things first of all is this the idea of entropy and negative entropy is very important so the idea of entropy would like if I have my system my closed system let's say a solar panel there's a certain amount of heat energy that's lost in the solar panel as it absorbs the energy from the Sun that would be entropy uh potentially we're losing energy from that system so it's never going to be perfectly efficient so it's always going to have some efficiency level greater than 100% of the energy it's absorbing uh negative entropy would be this idea that you're actually inserting more energy into the system from the outside source and in this case that outside source is I guess the quantum fluctuations of The Ether or of the vacuum which I refer to as the ether I'm just going to pause you quickly because in fact uh the example you're giving is the second case where a solar panel is actually that negative it's getting the outside source of energy from the Sun and they won't it's like oh we're gonna just label this as green energy and that oh it's open source and oh you know and trying to fuse people into the fact that that is no different than any other system and a major part of how the um system that's in place this uh control grid and waste of energy by uh the fossil fuel cartels and all of that is that they make this a as well as cars the car manufacturers and everything they don't allow any Innovation that is greater than 20 % new efficiencies right so you're not allowed to come out with any invention that has a reduction of energy usage and efficiency more than 20% and that there's thousands if not tens of thousands of cases Now by 2024 that it is it was like the 80s that there was thousands of cases of any inventure that you'd either be silenced by NDA and bought out and made a national security uh issue or whatever the labeling is of it or like um uh Stanley Meyer you'd get poisoned and assassinated if you refused yeah and those that's great thing to bring up in general now real quick what I want to bring up as well is that the difference here is that these systems will be non-equilibrium systems so you're actually getting much more energy in that's being in locally inputed as well now it the system does require input amount of energy but the energy that you are getting pulled in from the vacuum state or from The Ether can then be Jerry rigged so that it's actually you know producing that energy that you need to get the system to continue to run uh Thomas Bearden talks about this and his Meg as well so that's generally how these systems work is that they have some type of system where you can feed the energy back into it and then H the energy that's getting from the environment in this situation is uh more than the total amount of energy that it needs to run and this is how you get to co efficient or performance greater than one with respect to what you said about there are these caps that don't let things get more efficient especially with cars like miles per gallon on cars if you go measure the miles per graph out the miles per gallon on cars over time they've barely increased in the last 50 years and this doesn't make any sense considering now we've gone to like iPhones that are like literally computers that were more powerful than the Apollo 3 computers that they we went to you know the moon with uh and things like that so there's not been this equal amount of innovation in the energy markets compared to others and uh as I've said in my post I have it on good authority that these devices are already out there the one that I have seen is already operational it's not conceptual and that's the reason why people ask you know why did you sign an NDA well I'm not an engineer I never planned on uh building my own devices uh but I since I realized that there was stuff like the Meg out there I presumed there had to be other people that had produced them and a number of people reached out to me actually in private to say that they had it um and for now just what I'll say is that I went and I I spoke to the people that I trusted the most and got certain assurances and then I signed the NDA and then I was told the you know the secret sauce on how it how it operates and given what I had learned already independently I had realized that this is the real deal um again I was given assurances that these devices have already been produced and sold to people that are out there uh potentially dozens of them already and so you can now begin to understand the situation a little bit more so what people might ask uh you know what I would ask is probably like well what's why has it been why has it not been out there why has it not been kind of commercialized you know why is this not already occurred and this is where it gets to be there it's a lot trickier than what people imagine like there are in my opinion devices that have already been patented that people have tried to push and they get stalled for whatever reasons they either get you know disinformation against them they get bought out some people might get silenced in general um and there's and there's different paths then in terms of what has happened but if people were to say like oh well you should make it open source first of all it's not up for me to decide I'm not the inventor of it um and I think that people deserve their intellectual property uh but at the same time like even if we even if I did that then I don't think it there would come to fruition the thing that we're missing is what's the business model that allows it to be commercialized to anyone as opposed to just to the people who are in the know which is what I think is how it works right now um and that's something where I think that's going to be the challenge you know that's what's been missing this whole time um and so what I was looking for when I was assessing different people's models is what are the ones that are relatively simplistic in terms of the design so it's it would have the lowest cost and uh the easiest like marketability to people um as opposed to something that is like extremely complicated because I think that there are different ways that it can potentially be done out there um and I hope that like the person that I signed the NDA with I hope that that fits that bill because I think that the idea would be that you want to start early on by getting it out there to people that are like credible that can that can advocate for the fact that it works and then from there make it cheaper and cheaper over time as you like kind of make better and better models for it uh and then get it to a point where it can be accessible to like anybody um but honestly from what I've seen and this is just my opinion for now so what don't hold me to this is that even from the potential price points theoretically like it seems like it could still be pretty accessible to a large number of people that are out there um just because the amount of money you would save from your electric build month to month adds up pretty damn quickly uh so I do think that that's the reason why I'm pretty excited about it is that I don't think it's a situation where somebody asked like is this going to cost millions of dollars no it's not going to be millions of dollars um but it could be tens of thousands of dollars so I I keep telling people like think in terms of the price ranges of cars where they can you know price range of Cary down here here depending performance it's like um in Private Industry that uses a lot of electricity like agriculture like G um uh hydroponic um indoor uh hydroponic go straight to Hydroponics huh well because I'm in Canada right I'm trying I want to say Greenhouse but it's like that's not the thing so I'm like somebody's been injecting some to grow food inside in the winter in some food inside guys yeah I'm just kidding whatever you want to do with it in Canada it's legal to uh grow the marijuana now so I guess yeah in Canada for instance where it is legal to grow marijuana now there's a lot of these industrial grow operations that have extremely high power bills that something like that if it fully works and reduces your power by 90 95% a month and your bills several thousand a month well it's going to pay itself off in no time and you start implementing it through uh the industries and then like you said the next models the price keeps going down the more people buy it the cheaper it becomes to make the better the uh the more the information gets out there the more people start working with it applying it making new breakthroughs uh bringing the price down continued so forth and so forth like we have with computers and everything else on that front yeah I can see that there you know especially in business um business to residential or business to Consumer is one model you know in terms of going to individuals but then you could also have business to business so you know like you said there could be like a grow operation or uh let's say a uh industrial park or a business park you know and they want to power their whole Business Park got it Bitcoin mining right there or stuff like Bitcoin mining right you can have a you could have a or a database Farm if you're database Farm you need to power your database Farm you want to have a mega generator that can produce all the energy now you can imagine the benefit if you have a database farm that if the power goes out it doesn't lose it doesn't go it doesn't go down that's incredible you know and then you might not even lose internet connectivity at that point like we're talking about having a decentralized grid where the power and the internet would never go out even if the storms like in Texas Wipe Out the power lines so you can imagine there's these huge implications for this as well and so early on these are the things that I the one thing I'm actually am an expert on I would say or at least classically trained is economics and business I'm actually a business major I majored in marketing finance and international business and these are the things that I think about so you know with respect to the person who developed a product and can and engineer it like that's their expertise and that excites me because I've been learning all about it and I've been learning that it is real but for me it's like okay well how do we bring this to Market and and who do we target with it um that's what I'm working through so that those miners boom and Canadian pot growers two Market B markets cryp crypto Bitcoin Miners and Canadian pot growers those are going to be the biggest uh dealers probably um but this is the thing neither of them trust the government so right better but this is and I think that um that's going to be some of the next announcements is like what's the business plan what's the roll out strategy and that none of this has really been set in stone on this also like what's the business's name we have we're pretty much at the beginning points here I just wanted to build up a little bit of hype around it truthfully just to let people know and I was given the permission to do so uh by the person that I that I signed the NDA with or the organization that I signed the NDA with um because the truth is they want the information to get out there as well but they want to do it in a controlled fashion so a lot of people would say like are you going to get killed whatever and the truth is guys have you been seeing what I've been disclosing before this like compared to like teleporting an airplane and the government stealing an airplane honestly this is kind of lower on the risk scale if I have to be honest with you I mean it may be bigger impact but like we wrestling some pretty hardcore people so uh I'm not too worried about that in general H although you know whatever comes may come um maybe I'll set up or maybe I already do have a dead man Drop to you know give information out there if something were to happen to me uh but in the end of the day like we have to think practically about how do we really get this out there knowing the limitations of the disinformation and control and I'm sure I'm going to start getting attacked already about people saying oh this is fake he's trying to scam people or whatever but what I would say to head that off is that number one anyone who wants to debate me on the science I've already had an open invitation already talking about The Ether and all this stuff so if anyone out there wants to talk about the engineering the science capabilities of this then feel free we can we can set set it up anytime you want and the other side of is no one's going to force anybody to buy this so if you think it's not real then you just don't have to buy it and we'll also figure out a way where people can have their own assurances whether that be some type of guarantee that the product will work uh or that people could see it firsthand now obviously there's a lot of people out there so it's not going to be a situation where everybody's going to be able to see it so this is another one of the things I'm working through behind the scenes in terms of like okay how do we show this without giving away the intellectual property and how do we get people on board with it that can advocate for it working because it does work um and that's that's kind of the trick of a lot of this stuff so I just want to be transparent about this so people can really begin to see the lay of the land for the overunity industry in general that's awesome man and it's that you're I understand in your position especially that it's like you're an outsider coming in to sign an NDA just right that it's not that it's like you're signing something with the government you're signing something with an independent inventor so that inventor has the guarantee that his invention is safe and that he can then teach you and show you it sort of thing yeah he or she don't have to be sexist here sorry I was correcting myself right as there are female Engineers out there Bernie 100% plenty like probably just as much if not more I mean there probably is like only 5% of Engineers I'm pretty sure when I went to school like the engineers was like 95% guys but yeah they're out there they exist they exist um and people say so this is what I want to solicit to other people is like how do you prove it some people say oh well you have to prove it but realize like even if I were to show a video of it powering a bunch of stuff are just going to say well there's hidden wires somewhere there's a hidden battery that's running it so this is the difficulty of it this is where I want to again be transparent with people where there's really no standard of evidence that people are going to believe even if they see it firsthand they're going to think that it's a magic trick they're gonna say you're you're cheating somehow you've got some hidden wire I can't see or whatever uh so really that's why my minda the laws of thermodynamics it's impossible that's why I literally addressed that right off the bat because I wanted people to realize like no this is exactly how you have to understand the laws of thermodynamics to understand how this is possible but this is why in my mind the only way this can be proven is you just literally have people buying them and you give them the assurances that this is going to work and then they run it for like a month and they're like okay guys I've been running it for a month and it's still going so you know that there's no secret battery in there that's still going a month later uh you know that's to me like the only way it can be proven because you need some kind of like long scale test of it that shows it and that's not the kind of thing like even if I were to film that you'd say oh you edited it in a way where you took out the part where you recharged it or whatever so that's why there's there's just seen exactly bang on with that like with my own like I haven't run any energy experiments yet that I have planned with my own um electrolysis uh mono atomics and my solenoids and essentially saltwater batteries and stuff like that because it's that I plan on I've planned on from the beginning that you set it all up you build it from scratch like once you have the blueprints all the materials you start a live you build it from the scratch showing all the parts building it and then you leave that live stream going indefinitely and well hey argue that it's there for everything in its entirety for everyone yeah and I'm open to ideas like that in terms of trying to get you know to prove it but to me the simpler way is you just sell it to people that are willing to take the risk and they would have like a money back guarantee and then those people start advocating for it and then Word of Mouth spreads that okay it's legit to me that's the easiest way to do it and then you just hope that the government or whatever doesn't come in and shut you down or you know somebody come and try to buy you out I don't even know how much it would cost to like have me to flip on something like this but probably a lot of money um and if that would happen maybe I don't know I mean I you know I'm not Incorruptible but I I think the free energy is very important so I would probably turn down like lots of money uh just to make sure that the information were to that the product was still be able to get out to the people um some people ask a couple questions as well about are there videos online so with respect to this device I don't think so but there I I truly believe there are videos online that do show overunity I will admit that probably 90 95% of the ones claiming over to Unity are not actually producing real over unity and and if you were to like plug them into a load they're not gonna run forever um but I they think that there are ones like I even think that the Floyd sweet one that I showed a video of Thomas Bearden was narrating it uh I think that that was a real overunity device but that goes to show that that's been out there since 1987 that's uh almost 40 years ago and that wasn't enough proof for people even though we literally were staring at a device running three 100 watt bulbs and a fan from just the vacuum because people just assume oh well they must have cheated or something like that um and this again just goes to show the complexity of even if we were to recreate that and show a video of it doing that with this device people still are going to believe aren't going to believe that it's possible or believe that it's real um and then one thing I want to repeat as well real quick is that I never expected that the whole MH370 investigation would lead to free energy which is why this has just been such a incredible story just for me living through it I was watching a clip from Dr Greer I think he was on Sha Ryan or no no no he was talking to uh Dana Carvey and he was saying he doesn't watch uh like sci-fi stuff because like he he like lives through his sci-fi stuff and I honestly feel that way as well where it's like my life has been a Sci-Fi TV show like I I'm stting wonder if Stargates aren't real at this point um and so it's just like you know just kind of insane to think that we've got to this point and like I never would have expected to get to this point so this isn't even a situation where I'm pivoting this is just a situation where I've seen an opportunity and I've figured out that this is real and I want to use this opportunity that's been given here to take a chance uh there's no guarantees that this will be successful uh there's no guarantees this will end well um but it is a risk and I think it's one worth taking oh oh we definitely need to and that there are thousands of actual working patents out there that are suppressed and that over the last hundred years of people that have built these different things from nicoa Tesla Walter Russell um John Keeley uh God there's thousands of them that uh just struggling to name off off the get-go but that there's yeah been suppressed they've been taken out and they've been discredited even for instance uh uh Martin fman and H uh Pawns of their called Fusion Discovery and that that is also free energy because it is ENT quote unquote overunity but there's a reaction that's bringing in that electrolysis that is bringing more energy out in the hydrogen and then or taking less energy to make the hydrogen uh out of the water uh input that you're putting in that out of the energy you get out of the hydrogen reaction afterwards from the fuel so it's uh takeing yeah so real quick on that front I want to say too that um first of all I'm I'm not going to go to Dr Greer with this I I do think that Dr gre's had some good uh whistleblowers have talked about technology but I'm not bringing this to him I'm not going to have any connection to him on this a lot of people have actually asked me that weirdly um and this doesn't come from him either and then on the cold fusion side though that he did do Dr Greer did an interview with uh Paul SI I think is how you say his last name um and he mentioned the idea that he thought that these cold fusion uh reactions and devices were actually a form of Zer point energy or free energy the same thing as The Ether and I tend to agree I think that anything that's producing over Unity whether it be cold fusion or what have you I I think that they're all coming from the same idea of the ether is that you are extracting energy from the environment I would even go so far as to argue that even a battery is extracting energy from The Ether and uh that it's this the issue is that the system is a closed system as opposed to being an open system and the way the reason I say this even though that's a bold statement to make is if you watch the verium video about how power flows people don't realize that power doesn't flow through wires is that power power flows through fields that can go directly from the source to the light bulb or what have you and this was like one of the most controversial things I posted last week I had tons of electrical engineers and electricians that were saying no it has to flow through wires and I just I just keep telling them look at the configuration in the verium video uh look at the fact that the light turns on at one over the speed of light and that proves that the power is not flowing through the wires it doesn't matter what you were taught like that's just there's deniable proof um and once you realize that the power flows through Fields then you go well where's that field flowing through what's the medium for that field that can work in space that can work in the air how is that possible and then you realize well there we must need a medium for that The Ether again um and that's I think the basis for all of this uh you know ether-based technology who just joined us here absolutely uh we got Mike with Faraday research and he is a fellow Canadian of mine uh two Canadians and one American I don't know if I'm going to be a and not just that Mike himself has achieved several times over efficiency spash over Unity on several of his builds uh including uh I guess the centerpiece of it uh Mike is it correct that it is a DC motor with a uh flywheel essentially that's is well yeah what my device does is you know basically it's a current free potential the it's it has to do with the switching method of turning the power on and off the way I do it in my device because it it's it uses basically a disruptive discharge as a release every time you release and there is an open circuit that means the the ion travel between the plates the battery they never actually exit the battery so what you're doing you're stealing a potential voltage off the battery you're not actually extracting the current or the ionic movement within the battery plates so it never actually leaves the battery so basically you're like skimming the battery so because of this effect I can run my motor for several hours and the batteries don't wear out or several days or several weeks and the batteries like one set of batteries I've been working with for six months they still hav't completely died they're still running so switching technology is very important and I've basically come up with a system that can really take the average battery and make it put out 50 times 100 or 200 times more power but it's over time not at the event of creating power the overunity comes with the time so that's what a lot of Engineers don't take into account when they design a system right and so that's like a 50x 50 times over five so that's 500 5,000 time percent yeah the efficiency yeah it's off the charts so the way we've designed our electrical systems our grid system everything's been done wrong where Tesla back in the day he worked with very high voltages very high frequencies a perfect example would be like the street lights outside you know how many kilowatt hours those street lights put out if you were to change the frequency say from the standard North American 60 hertz say you made those lights Run at 200 Hertz well guess what you just made the efficiency of that light way higher than it would be at 60 hertz and the amount of savings and you know the amount of fossil fuels needed to keep those lights running is greatly reduced so that's just one of many examples of how what we've built today in our world you know we're running at the wrong voltages we're running at the wrong frequencies we run at a higher voltage higher frequency just like Jo going back to Joseph Newman in his motor his motor was running on dead batteries and I've actually done it with my device run my device for several days several months on dead batteries so this kind of throws all the regular electrical engineering science out the window how is this possible right yeah I think the question there too on the battery stuff is a one of efficiency is very important because there may be multiple angles of attack on the problem is one is okay can we extract energy directly from the environment or The Ether or the quantum fluctuations other is like can we make it more you know magnitudes more efficient in the extraction efforts as well which I think that all of these like this is what I want to inspire people out there uh and real quick I just want to say that I made this post yesterday about making America great again and I truly believe I mean both you guys are Canadians but you know what you your America's make North America so make we need more Engineers yeah we need more Engineers though in the west like we need all of our Engineers come from like India and China and stuff now like because Americans don't don't know how important engineering is and they don't know I think that people would be more inspired if they listen to people like you Mike and people that are interested in trying to uh not necessarily cheat the laws of physics but you know look at them through a new lens and not just assume that whatever we were taught is the limitations of this box that we're living in you know exactly I want to show you just briefly here the battery cell technology that I'm currently working on it's uh carbon mag carbon magnes turn your phone 90 degrees so we get full thank you uh carbon magnesium battery cell so I've been testing these cells here and I'm running a little light here and it's these battery cells have been running for four months nonstop so I've almost perfected the it's a solid state battery by the way so I do believe these batteries are exhibiting some kind of quantum tunneling because technically these batteries shouldn't work at all but they are so it's getting its power this is a 12volt chaser light it's running it so you're extracting blood from a stone here basically there's that should be coming out yeah yep right so then it's got a it could be this cold electricity that we don't really monitor or acknowledge then that's coming in is is that correct like what's your thought on that Mike well the quantum tunneling exhibits um where there's ion flow where technically there shouldn't be any interaction of going from the anode to the cathode but the ions are actually making it through this barrier and actually traveling with no means of you know an electrolyte or you know something to push it through right but they are making it through and you know the fact that these tiny little cells have been running for four months for three and a half months now um it's just quite amazing you know to me that I could actually get the battery to perform like this so as far as over Unity or free energy I really believe it's in the solid state Battery Technology or power cell so I've got big plans uh partnered up with somebody and we're going to make large large scale they're going to be like tiles like 12 by 12 and uh I have some other uh precious metal materials that I'm going to experiment with to see if I could get the potentials higher so I got a bunch of material on order now plus the plates uh carbon graphite plates uh magnesium a whole whack of material magnesium is a good one uh so for all of those that have been asking and mentioning the Walter Russell periodic tables that Terrence Howard brought up in The Joe Rogan interview they're actually a key uh tool in applying to what Mike's working on here with where the metals are on the octave on that uh repeating Loop going over because you want to get two metals as far apart on opposite sides that you create the largest electrical differential as possible so with you know you have um say uh I guess aluminum Ander or I guess so copper and silver on the same side but copper is closer to the center where silver is closer to the outside of the shell the further side so that when you uh use um copper versus silver against aluminum you'll get more of a charge differential from the silver than you will from the copper because because there's more uh ion or elect yeah it's it's a um what's the word I'm looking for um the polar opposite of itself inverted inverted opposite you know uh differential in materials like uh there's one guy out there that's been doing this stuff unfortunately he passed away in 2021 um he had a great cell technology he had cells running for over four years nonstop um he was using a a carbon graphite and then a carbon silicon um uh combination and uh yeah he had some very even how he used the battery was very similar to way I'm using batteries say in my pulse generator my uh I call it it's a reactance generator basically and the switching method he does that too with the cells it would be like two seconds on a load and then 7 Seconds off two seconds on a Load 7 Seconds off and if you keep that um uh cycling going like that there's no reason why those cells cannot put out power for four six 10 20 years you know provided that you use those cells in a proper manner instead of pulling just a load off it you'll kill a battery any battery you know you dead short of battery you kill it same right and so that's what's so funny a lot for anyone out there that's ever purchased a new electronic and they used to and sometimes still say oh you got to run it all the way to down and dead and kill the battery the first time for it to work really good literally telling you to kill your battery which will do permanent harm and might well that depends on what type of power if you're putting negative energy into a regular battery you have to discharge it completely this what John bini was talking about for years says you cannot put a negative energy charge into a positively charged battery so you have to discharge it and then after you discharge it you charge it with the negative energy so now you've basically reformatted the battery to accept a negative charge now from there on then you have to continue to charge it with a negative charge if you try to charge it with a positive charge it's going to kill the battery off so it can't be both it has to be one or the other so he said he would use a positively charged battery to run the bini motor and charge a battery with negative charge and you would never swap the batteries because the second you swap the batteries that positive charged battery that you were using is now going to get destroyed by the negative energy so it's counterintuitive to do it so you would have a stack of batteries that are negatively charged have another stack of batteries that are positively charged Ed so if the batteries that are running the motor start running low you take the negative charged batteries run that through an inverter and use a regular battery charger to charge those primary batteries so that way you're not destroying the battery so a lot of people get that wrong when they're doing the bendini system but um so what let me ask you a question Mike on this so because I think a lot of people's questions and um a lot people's criticisms are on the approach of you know telling the world are you willing to give away your work for free uh you know or is this sign a situation where you know you would want to be able to profit off of it well I've I've you know I've got over 460 videos on my YouTube channel I pretty much have disclosed everything that I've done um you know with the pulse charging and uh the reactant generators everything that you know like I said I've been doing this for a few years now I've got you know a pretty good following 3,000 subscribers I got text messages emails all the time uh they ask me questions I give them my personal opinion if they like what I say great if they think I'm full of crap okay whatever move on you know what I mean it's well I'm just one man and you know I don't have all the answers I'm not you know the end all say all kind of thing um you I always encourage every person out there that makes criticism to say have you actually done any experiments have you been on the bench have you actually tried any of this stuff and most of them W won't reply because all they're out there is you know you know they're just trying to needle at you but you know what I I put what I can out if there's just one little thing that resonates with you and actually helps your project to make it better hey all the power to you you know you got something out of it you know yeah that's the part where like because I think a lot of people don't realize like I think that giving the information about how the concepts work that to me seems like sure no-brainer you're educating people but if you come down to actually a specific configuration that you can patent or that you're going to Market you know that's that's now I think in my mind you've broached the the line of intellectual property like yeah I think that no one's under any obligation to work for free that's my opinion I mean I don't a lot of people out there wouldn't say that they work for free and everything out there is work there's no such thing as free anything for the most part everything costs something out there and this is just how I want to address people that go ahead yeah the one big problem with the US patent office they have a um a section 113 I think it is it's a provisionary thing where any uh any patent that goes through the office it gets a classification so say if it's a over Unity device or a free energy device get screen by the us or the military industrial complex if they deem it as National Security risk to the status quo it will be basically black blackballed and you'll never see the light of day again and it's happened actually to a couple friends of mine uh Norman Mutan he had the MRI device that basically got you know okey doy from several universities Georgia Tech MIT a few other but all those um institutions they wouldn't sign off on it because they're more worried about the reputation right you know some tests were showing 40 for uh cop of 40 some were showing cop 18 but the second he filed for the US Patent they deemed it a national security risk and is shoved in a drawer somewhere at the US patent office for the last 30 years and they'll never see the light of day so if you have a system that's already rigged a game against you the last thing you want to do is go get a patent because you know it's going to get blackballed so why even bother you know why would you you waste your money and your time and your resources like poor Joseph Newman actually took it to the federal court and still lost even though that he had the best Engineers basically in the United States say yeah this machine's for real it is over Unity it's putting out more power than is going into this machine machine and they proved it time and time again still they would never issue him a patent so he he's kind of the poster child of this don't get a patent and this this is the difficult part though because if you don't get a patent and then you sell it to somebody now what prevents that person from just telling everybody how it works and now you're screwed right this is where I want people to understand the complexity related to it is that if you get a patent you might get silenced and if you don't get a patent how do you protect your intellectual property uh and is probably going to be some of the challenges faced with trying to commercialize and Market this and I have it on one more thing real quick is that I have it on pretty good authority that the government already has these devices the military already uses these devices so because of what you just said yeah most definitely most definitely actually I just saw a really good uh it was uh energy from the vacuum series they were interviewing a guy uh William Doyle and he was talking about his father was affiliation with a company back in the 1950s in Toronto a company called designx and they were working on Project silverbug the AO Arrow um they were working on Missile projects they were working uh nuclear energy and also uh the three uh three Engineers from Britain that were involved at spa uh designx they were working on this thing called the cold heat engine so they constructed the engine it was basically like kind of like a modified refrigerator and basically they got this thing to run and when it started running there was no onoff switch since you turned it on that was it it was on forever so by 1954 and Shell gas was all over that place all through the abro arrow project silver buug the AO car they were living there they were watching everything and when they developed this cold heat engine it basically you know 1954 coold fossil fuel of all kinds was basically Obsolete and it was fact yeah it's probably been for a long time right right a really long time so since the mid-50s um fossil fuel's basically been Obsolete and this is and I just want to address cuz I think I'm going to get this all the time that PE that people demand that people give their intellectual property away for free uh I'm just going to be honest with that's not going to happen for me in this case if you want to criticize me for that then you can go nuts with it uh if people want to give their work away for free if people want to work for free they can totally do that what I again what I'm going to do is I'm just simply giving away the concepts and the science and how it works whether you believe it or don't believe it you can take it or leave it but to demand somebody give their intellectual property away for free to me is just completely uh anti-free Market um and that's like saying that like you should like that's like me asking you you should work for me for free as my slave nobody would agree to that uh and everybody would think that that's wrong so when you say you should give it away for free I want you to think would you give your time away for free would you give away something that can make you a bunch of money for free I think that most people say that they would but when it comes right down to it they would not yeah and and that's that's kind of the rut we've been in since you know God knows when because we you know all of us that are inventors that work with this stuff we know the system's rigged we know it's rigged 100% And it's very discouraging so you know in desperations a lot of people are out there and say okay if I can't do anything with this and I'm trying to make a better world you know the last thing the last thing I could do is give out bits and bites of the piece of the puzzle and if you have any you know uh intellect or engineering skill you should be able to recreate this like even John bini said I'm not going to give everything to you I'm going to give you the general operation how it works but in the end you know um you got to figure out on your own y you know there's no glory for the lazy exactly a lot of people too it's just that you know it requires highly specialized skill in order to build some of this stuff and people just think oh I just should have it for free I deserve that your your stuff for free free uh if you want to you know you've been taught the science and how it works go figure it out go make your own and then people go oh well I can't want to do that too hard well exactly that's why things cost money that's how that's how markets work you know no matter what type of economy so exactly like when I got into this I didn't know any electrical I never went to school for it you know I'm a machinist by trade so I got into this stuff oh back in early 2000s and you know I started little by little I started watching videos and readings scha and basically self-taught and you know when I me to me seeing is believing so if I build advice and it's getting the effects that people claim that's getting the effects then you know what I believe it because I see it in front of me it's real so that's I I go in with a non-bias if you're go in with non-biased approach and say okay I know General Physics things are supposed to work but what happens if you start going outside that box yeah kind of questions are you g to ask why is this happening that's when the real research starts because you can't scientific break through is by going outside the box you're not going to get a breakthrough without breaking through the realm of what the norm used to be and then by definition you will get resist by The Establishment that is that system for breaking out and presenting something new and it's the only way and here's the part twoo I want to give another example remember lk99 from last summer that was theoretically open source like they said here's how you can produce lk9 what happened a bunch of people went out and failed to reproduce it and then they all determined that it was fake and it got brushed under theed ones that did but they got suppressed or claimed that they were bunk this part where people literally do not understand the concept of Open Source and how easy just because something's open source does not mean it can be discredited does not mean that it's going be proven so this is the number one thing that people misunderstand about how the world works is they just think oh well if it's open source it's going to be impossible if you put it on the blockchain then it'll automatically get out there no it won't that's literally how they've been doing it people have been doing it the thunderstorm generator has been open source for years and it's gotten essentially no attention you guys have to realize the world is not as simple as that people have and their idealistic mindsets you had the only way to get out there is to actually have products in people's hands that they're literally using and then advocating for it simple as that yeah it's it's a very complex thing and it's nothing new you know there's been you know a few inventors in the past that were were killed ultimately for their inventions um you know Floyd swe and uh um what's his name um the water cell engine you know Stanley Meyers yeah um there's several others as well this the part where people don't realize like there's a history of people that have created overunity type devices or alternate fuel source devices and it generally doesn't end well for them like when you start messing with people's money that's when they start getting at you too right so if you start trying to put it out there for free that's probably the most dangerous thing in my mind that you can do I think that the best way is a selective slow uh slow approach where you start getting it out to the people and you start you know acclimating people to the idea of it and then it starts to become more and more accepted and then it gets to the point where they can't hide it anymore where people just generally know that it's out there yeah it's like you know you can only keep a secret so long right exactly gonna get out but they've been keeping it secret for a long ass time like I think this stuff is going back like 50 years or more it's longer than that you know it goes back to Tesla you know the uh the engineers League of uh sorry electrical engineers League of Britain or whatever they had a meeting back in around 1919 just before styz died and uh you know with the the work that Tesla was doing and JJ Thompson and all these great Engineers it B pretty much came to the consensus that you know within a couple of years with you know Tesla's work and all that that they would actually be able to build a motor generator that didn't need a power source so and it's in writing and it was from Oxford University uh Dr William Henry you know he was the head of that uh conference that they had you know they had a meeting that night they had dinner together and they discussed what is possible you know what we could actually make and that's what they said they said they can make a generator that does not need a power source that's mindblowing I want to address a couple things real quick in the there's a couple question in the chat and one thing somebody asked me about side note on the MH370 stuff the plasma stuff apparently vetted looked into that I uh have um an interview coming out with Professor Simon Howell uh on plasma physics and and some of the MH370 video stuff so check that out if you guys are interested in that because I do think there's a connection between these exotic vacuum objects and cold fusion and this free energy um also people say oh you know you're going to potentially get killed for this like I guys I know the risks like I've been I've been playing with fire for nine months regarding the United States military so I know the risks and I'm taking those risks uh with respect to this video what I want to say to people is potentially what I've heard about why this configuration is not overun is if you were attach a load to this so you you've got this motor Perpetual motor going but if you attach a load to it and try to start running uh something off of it it's going to eventually slow down and it's going to eventually stop so that's why this type of configuration doesn't work that's the only thing I'm willing to tell you guys here yeah there's a lot of stuff out there that does not work and you know when I got into the stuff you know back in the early 2000s I wanted to try some of this stuff is it real and I found out very quickly what was real what was not real you know you know I blew up any resistors and uh capacitors and shocked myself several hundred times you know because you know I did not have electrical background but over the years I've learned it become very Savvy and electrical that I've been able to kind of push the envelope of you know what science saying that cannot be done right yep you know like making you know my reactive power generator run on a battery for six months and it's still working and it'll work even on a dead battery so you know that my generator is very similar to what Joseph Newman was working with he was using all dead batteries and he was able to remove a motor that had a 7,000lb rotor this last machine he made 7,000 lbs and he's using dead batteries and it's running it for you know quite a few hours before they actually would die off you know just the weight alone to churn a 7,000 pound rotor takes a huge amount of horsepower to do it right so he was you know basically powering the motor with uh it was 84 9vt batteries they were all dead less than 50 million amps of power in each battery he was able to move a 7,000lb rotor with those batteries so he was getting about 460 volts DC at like almost no current how was this possible well he came up with a theory of kind of change in like the m equals MC squ type Theory and it turned out everybody's saying well it's not putting out much power but they didn't take into account you're moving a 7,000lb motor there's your Coop right there an energy to mass ratio right 400 volts you're moving 7,000 pounds okay took a similar setup hooked it up to a regular DC motor it lasted less than an hour and the motor almost uh caught on fire because it it just draw amps from the battery and the batteries would heat up and you know you got problems his motor ran for several hours with the same kind of battery and it's moving a massive you know rotor so you know yeah there are configurations that can work right and like I bet if I were now to look at ones that are out there I can tell much easier which ones are legit and which ones aren't so like like I just gave an example there in the one that that kid was showing which it's a cool to see because you can tell that magnets definitely seem to be there like there's something there when you watch the magnets because you can create something that's moving was that uh it was he that kid used the beard in patent the magnetic motor patent that you covered in your stream last night and then developed it into that and it's funny they they'll admit and say oh it's actually sure it's perpetual emotion motor so that's impossible but it is that but then if you put a load on too much of a load on it then it'll stop slow but there are you know the only Perpetual one sec there there's few reports especially with the seg the seral effect generator SG which is a triple DC magnetic motor that's in fact uh that the more load you put on the uh faster it spins and the better it works and that for those ones that have this inverse reaction that there uh I've seen one video of a working SG that was doing this of s's original one and they had uh the heat gun laser pointed at it and you literally saw the temperature going down by like a 100 degrees around it just sucking the energy in but yeah sorry to interrupt continue please yeah the only other one that I know of um that kind of exhibit the similar effect was the uh crom Ray generator so the more load you put on it it drew less current well the regular you know science electrical science that's completely the opposite when you put a load on it it should draw more amps well with the Chom Ray generator when you put more load on it the amps go down and the motor speeds up so you know what physics is happening in there that you know this can happen and John bini actually made a really nice one a really nice Chom Ray generator that's just an example so there are devices out there I feel that are actually legit and there are a lot of devices out there that they think they're getting the effects but they really aren't you know they're not doing the proper testing or have the proper test equipment right so you know like the internet's flooded with this stuff so you have to sift through what you think is real what's not you know the only um oh going back to that magnet motor you were talking about the only one the only person that I know that actually achieved I guess you could say quote unquote Perpetual state was Howard Johnson and uh Tom Bearden actually witnessed one of these machines and actually seen it run and he said he sat at the table for like two hours trying to figure out how the hell he did it he couldn't believe his eyes and he was a nuclear physicist he's looking at this and they go how is this possible you know but Howard Johnson cracked it he was the only guy that really made a true quote unquote magnet motor that could run basically off the magnetic field of a magnet yeah and what I can say is I know for a fact it's 100% possible like I said early on uh you weren't quite on yet Mike but I have signed an NDA related to it so I can't reveal how it works but um I can say that is 100% possible absolutely I'm absolutely certain um and then to me it's more of a matter of like how do you prove it to the world without giving away the secret that's the that's the difficult part uh because you know you want it's your intellectual property someone made up a configuration that does able to put a load on it able to produce you know energy and move on and I don't know about the thing related to um uh you know like that that it would take less energy the more stuff you put on I'm not I'm not sure about that but I do know that 100% does produce overunity um and yeah then it just becomes more of a honestly economics and business question for how you protect your investment and how you protect your intellectual property because look at this is other thing I want to say to people as well that are skeptical or what have you or the people that think you should give it away for free is that imagine you have the golden goose lay golden eggs what is your incentive to even let the world know like you can charge whatever you want for it because most of the world doesn't know it's real but in the end the device works so you can sell it to people for whatever price you want so please keep in mind that the person who I signed the NDA with who is giving this information like they are giving in a sense giving away the Golden Goose here by even making that information and telling me that I'm allowed to speak about it publicly uh because they could just hide it for themselves this whole time and just work with people behind the scenes and sell to people behind the scenes but they want the information to get out there right yeah or just put it on the shelf right yeah and for people say okay well where can you get one more to come on that guys I mean this is this was the first announcement that I've made related to this so there will be more announcements the first one will probably be what the name of the company will be that's going to do this and then how to solicit serious uh serious people who want to purchase it and what the stipulations will be there will be stipulations because uh we do need to protect the intellectual property especially early on maybe those stipulations will loosen over time as it becomes more accepted that it's real but to begin with there will be stipulations about what you can say about the device not tampering with the device things like that uh so that you can't that because otherwise what's going to happen is people are going to give away how it works and what have you to the world um and that's ultimately is what's gonna happen anyway but you know the idea is to minimize how long that takes to happen um and for it to reach critical mass where it can no longer be denied that it doesn't work yeah you know what I think with the internet and what's happening with all these inventors sharing stuff online I think more and more people are legitimately achieving over Unity I think so and you know the fact that you know you know there's probably a hundred million people out there like myself in the basement you know coming up with ideas and designing it and then sharing it with everybody on YouTube you know and all that it's like information sharing right you know everybody's kind of conversing with everybody else and putting their ideas together to make a system that actually works so it's a good thing in a way right it's it's going to get this stuff out there to say undeniably over Unity is possible Y and imagine too that if it gets out there what's going to happen the first thing that's going to happen is that the same big companies that control the world are going to get access to it and they're going to start mass-producing and they're going to start controlling it themselves again that doesn't solve anything either right so this is the part that people need to realize because people like oh it will end it will stop all the engine energy companies yeah until they get access to it and they beat us all out and then they uh start you know monopolizing it then it's just going to be the same [ __ ] we're already being stuck with so part of the reason too for me wanting to put it out there is that I can get it out there hopefully in a way that will be Equitable to people at least in the long run now I'm not talking about like tomorrow yeah but you know hopefully years down the line as we start to get it out there we can get it out there and not be an evil corporation like I would probably make the modelto of my company what Google's motto used to be don't be evil it's a pretty simple one don't be evil yeah so that's why I kind of really Embrace this power cell technology because it's you know batteries go back way back right and it's something that's always going to be in the future as well is storage of energy yeah you're gonna need it for everything so you know if you can perfect the battery to the point where you know it's actually going to be almost like an overunity device all on its own right you know you can uh charge your car and then go the Hutchinson well yeah like the battery I'm working on kind of regenerates itself so the second you take the load off it starts reaging itself naturally which is really intriguing if you were to get that say in a Tesla you drive to work you shut your Tesla off and then by the time you come back after work your car's fully charged again because the battery regenerated itself over eight hours so you don't have that anxiety of worry about you know am I going to have enough power to get home you know what I mean and you don't have to have a charge station the battery will actually do that on its own regenerate itself and that's I think that's where the Holy Grail is with batteries re self-recharging batteries well imagine too like I can see these devices being paired with stuff that are are either like what you just mentioned or like the Tesla wall battery or whatever they call it yeah where it's like you charge that thing up with the device and then you use and distribute that energy as you see fit to either charge your car up or whatever so that like you said everything's just constantly recharging all the time yeah and then you get to a point where like you just don't even really have to plug things anymore you forgot that you don't have to plug things in anymore because they're always charging Tesla's original goal was the worldwide Wireless free energy grid being powered off of the ionosphere yeah well you know like these batteries if you know I'm working with polymers and uh reactive type metals and stuff and if you get the right combination you know if I'm getting a Quantum tunneling effect or even exhibiting maybe the Casmir effect in the battery that's amazing you know the fact that a you know a stationary solid state device can actually recharge itself yeah you know that will revolutionize the whole industry for electric cars um you know you won't have need to produce solar panels anymore which are extremely bad for the environment even windmills too they're not very good for the environment they kill a lot of birds you know there's a lot of problems they only last 40 years then they got to be taken down and rebuilt you know there's pros and cons with the air and Solar Technologies so if we can make a battery that runs 247 seven days a week does not need sunlight and just charges and extracts power from well you know either from the vacuum or Quantum tunneling or the Casmir type effects that's that's I think where we should really head and it's it's better for the environment um so somebody do you see that that comment I don't know if to like your name is I'm a troll so serious or not like I'm not going to let some guy named I'm a troll randomly join a pod like wello like the thing is like Engineers say I'm a real engineer I know how stuffs really work I'm offering you anybody that says they're offering you advice when you're the one explaining how it works like obviously they're just not up there intellectually to be able to comprehend the information uh we're not soliciting advice nobody here is asking for your advice on it um when you claim to be a real engineer there's many real Engineers that don't even know how power works and that's one of the most fundamental aspects out there I found that out for when I posted how power works and I had like 50 people claiming to be Engineers that don't know how it works at all people that are literally electricians that don't know how power works so when you try to claim you know how it works well I'm telling you that there's a way we are telling you in all caps I'll put them on the screen and then we can answer them that's how we can prove it otherwise you're just living up to your need there's no there's no need to prove anything because this is the problem is the moment that people say like I'm an expert like the word expert means nothing just because you think you know better than other people doesn't mean a damn thing in this world if you don't understand that overunity is possible then you're the one that needs to be educated because overunity is 100% possible I've explained how it's possible I explained the laws of thermodynamics and one and two in my post and if you have some kind of dispute with that then you can just post what your dispute with that is and we can talk about it but if you're going to try to condescend and talk down from a position of perceived Authority this is what's wrong with the world in general is the world is not dictated by what the experts believe like what Mike just said he's not even a traditional electrical engineer not classically trained and neither am I but that's not a requirement I'm going to spoil it for you guys the people in the black projects don't give a [ __ ] about who the people who are experts or classically trained they want to know the people that really understand the real science that's been suppressed from the world the people that can figure that out are the ones that have value the ones that think that what they were taught in the books and what they're thought taught from their teachers those people have no value those are the people that okay you want to go on you want to learn how to fix a computer you go ahead and go fix your computers we're going to let the people that understand that there's more of this world than what we've been taught we're going to let those people figure out free energy so not to be rude but that's just the true situation yeah could have question in all caps I put it up and we can read it can answer ask him why he can't reverse the process to make a reactionless generator so it won't drag down the magnets Motors torque so he can produce far more power I think we was talking about the the kids project that was up there before I'm not sure end of the day like there are configurations that will all for free energy figuring out exactly what those configurations are I would say look at the streams that I've already done related to mostly Thomas bearden's work to understand the concepts uh and again like I said I think there are more than one ways to do it yeah I think you personally a real winner with my projects is the current free potential you can figure out how to do a current free potential system you'll see the overunity you not might not see it in the power or the reactive power of VR curve but you'll see it over time and that's a huge thing a lot of people Overlook time you know if I could take a small battery and make it run you know for six months without actually having to recharge the battery there's your over Unity right there it not might not be an actual how much power you're producing at that second but over six months you're like holy cow this thing put out a lot more power than a regular you know motor system right so the switching technology is part of it so I know uh Jim Murray's been working on it Paul Babcock they're all working on reactants power generators you know yeah oh sorry go ahead uh Nicola Tesla spoke a lot about reactive power so you know reactive they most El traditional electrical engineers say well reactive power is n real it's you know it's a it's a spike yeah but if you know how to catch that Spike and turn it back into real Power by dumping it into a capacitor bank and then you can do whatever the heck you want with it and if you're cycling it you know at three 400 times a minute that that starts catching up you got the time working for you now right so there are many configurations that work over Unity you just got to find out which ones are real which ones are not real yeah uh a couple questions in the chat I'm trying to address as many as I can that Bernie's bringing up one say any books now the book that I would say to read isn't necessarily about there's not books like here's free energy but if you look at non-equilibrium thermodynamics by uh Preen uh called modern thermodynamics Thomas Bearden pointed out page 459 of that so modern thermodynamics by Eli prian I believe it is uh on non-equilibrium oh you have it right there is that it oh no that's a different one okay but yeah um on non-equilibrium and non-e equilibrium is this idea that you're you're not having your system is not a closed system anymore you're opening the system up so you're now able to get more energy in um somebody also asked how to overcome the issue of the patents being suppressed that's one where I'm struggling with I truly do not have an answer right at the moment uh and when I do have one that's probably G to be one of my upcoming announcements for what the business rooll out strategy is because yes if you can't patent it that's kind of a big problem so uh yeah more to come on that don't have the answers right now uh are you able to speak about the materials no I can't speak about the materials or anything specific about the device uh but again like I can say is that look into the concepts that have already been put out there um the concepts are already all out there uh the specific way to configure it and the materials used I'm not not willing to speak on that uh because of potentially violating the NDA uh but yeah that that's the part where I leave it to you guys to figure out that's the part where you've got to be the inv who figures out what is the secret sauce that brings it all together you know what I can say is watch the video I did last night related to Thomas Bearden talking about the concepts I'm going to be using those analogies about like wind power and solar power because I think they're great and also watch the Meg uh I did a video a few weeks ago or a week ago about the Meg where Thomas Bearden talks about it for like 30 minutes as well those will give you the prerequisites that you need to be able to produce your own and then what I would say is think a little bit outside the Box there's a secret sauce that's missing somewhere think outside the box that's the best I can do for you guys I'm sorry I can't give you more what other the questions we got let's roll for some questions here I want to make sure people can answer questions that are out there um sorry I'm just try H Let's ignore the troll person as well the moment somebody's like I worked at Tesla and SpaceX whatever man um Elon Musk probably knows this stuff is Real by the way like I've gotten on really good authority that like if you're a billionaire out there or the most you know um richest person in the world like you have connections to the people that can produce these things for you so this is where I'm now like very skeptical Elon mus but I'm also appreciative because he hasn't let the government ban me off of uh Twitter which is like that's how you would suppress people traditionally just remove their voice so yeah goes both ways yeah one thing that uh Thomas Bearden talked about is not killing the dipole and it took me a long time to figure out what he meant by that but when you figure it out it makes total sense because you're not actually extracting you you're not actually having a physical connection with the dipole right you're using another force that that dipole is creating and extracting it from another uh I guess another closed circuit that's in the proximity of the dipole so a perfect example would be Tesla's uh Tesla coil if you get two coils they're both in resonant frequency with each other and if they're within close proximity you can extract power off of the second tower with not affecting the original tower that's actually transmitting power so that's kind of a perfect example of that you're not killing the dipole yeah I thought that was really interesting when he brought that up and I think that was on the video yesterday I reviewed on my stream if people want to look at that which was this idea of like it's going to slow down but how do you prevent it from slowing down will you add this electric Uh current to it this minimal electric current and then that kind of allows it to continue moving forward I I don't know for a fact if that's the answer or not but does seem like one potential solution to the problem in general so I thought that was interesting yeah like I've done a lot of Tesla stuff like his one wire setup and it does work if you do it exactly to how Tesla wired his system using the one wire system you could extract off that one wire without actually um pulling a load or pulling resistance off that off the uh primary uh circuit it runs free and you don't have to add extra power to the system everybody doesn't take into account all the energy that's in the space around the machine because there's just as much activity happening in the machine and around the machine so that's in free space while we can extract from there so if you have another antenna or another Tesla coil beside the primary testic coil you can extract all those electrons that are in free space that are now energized and you can extract off it and create power without pulling a load off the primary and uh Don Smith did this many many times improved without a shadow of a doubt that this is possible so yeah oh go ahead yeah no I've I've actually done quite a few experiments from Don Smith and they do work so I know stuff so a couple of questions khed asked well how much how much he basically asked how much energy how much wattage can you get out of a device like this and the answer is it can be scaled up so the device can be scaled up to produce as much as you potentially need let's just say a shitload potentially or it can be very small and not produce as much so it is modular from that perspective um which is one of the reasons why I like the design uh is that there's going to be it's not going to be a one- siiz fits-all type situation um and then for anyone who thinks that this is a lie or whatever I'll just tell you 100% it's not a lie 100% it is real you can feel free to try to prove me wrong give it your best shot people have been trying to prove me to be a liar for nine months straight and every single person who's tried has been proven wrong and been shot down it is always backfired so if you want to give it your best go go for it you got you got my blessing to try yeah you know what it's just a matter of uh as the technology comes out you know day by day year by year more and more is going to get released barriers are going to be broken like I've pretty much defeated lens law completely in my device and it all has to do with switching if you get the switching and the timing correct you can circumvent lens law so yeah that because I want to add on to what you just said there like the problem too is that physicists look at the problems theoretically based on what the equations say but engineers look at what's actually engineerable what's observable and then they work backwards the physicists are going well here's what the equation say here's what the math says says I can't do that the engineers go well here's what I'm seeing how do we explain it that's a very big difference and that's why it's like the answer is somewhere in the middle right and this is why I think that if you ignore the engineers and what they're actually seeing then you're going to be stuck in a box where you're never going to be able to figure out how to get out yeah exactly I totally agree you know like the lens law a lot of people say well you can't get around lens law well that's fine but if you engineer system that can go around lens law and it's how it's engineered sometimes the engineer can break that law or circumvent it or get around it right so you know it has to do with the switching technology and Paul Babcock's done it Jim Murray's done it and uh you know they're getting pretty high cops with their devices and I literally sent the troll an invite and he's trying to claim that we're stubborn and trolls sorry troll I sent it to you you didn't show you're a troll yeah I mean that person was obviously trolling uh no big deal though um so somebody says four kilowatts of power to power a home is good I don't know that seems like a lot but sure maybe I would actually like to know what the estimate amount of power is to power a home keeping in mind that like a refrigerator and an air conditioner usually take up like magnitudes more power than like light bulbs do um what do you guys think u i from what on LinkedIn like you asked sorry to interupt uh from what I've read they say the average home in North America uses about 25 kilowatt hours per day oh per day per day yeah so you know that's based you know you know you're running your refrigerator or your HVAC your AC or whatever you know those are going to be your largest consumer power but you know we have the technology right now to make a lot of this stuff extremely efficient and that's that's half the battle right there like I said with with the street lights why are they runting at 60 htz why not run them at a 200 htz you're going to save a lot of power huge amounts of kilowatt hours so it's you know the technology we have is over over 120 years old now it's time to take the next step and evolve a little bit and start changing certain things that we use on a regular basis like a street light and change it from 60 htz to say 200 htz that's going to huge a huge amount of strain off the power grids yeah improving the there's two ways to approach it right is one is produc proding essentially unlimited energy um but there's a cost Associated to scaling that up that gets more and more expensive and the other one is making it more efficient and cheaper as well and then it depends on how much air conditioning you're using because again like refrigerator and air conditioner are probably like significant percentage of people's power um and then if you have if you live in an area where you need to use the air conditioner a lot or if you live in an area where you have to use the heat a lot then that's going to have a significant impact but that does help me to understand the problem that just straight up um kind of engineering problem is you've got this device well how do you plug everything into it you so you would have to like either build your house your electricity and your wires around the device or you need to plug everything into the device with like extension cords as well so there are some practical engineering problems related to it it's not just a you know immediately here's this now everything in my house is powered it's like okay well where do you power it that's where I think it makes the most sense for like a backup or in a situation where you have a guest house or a situation where you're living off the grid somewhere where you don't have this giant house because the bigger your house is physically the harder it is going to be to wire everything to this device and then where you put the device as well like you want it in your basement or something like that but you need to also plug everything into it so this is not a situation where it's a perfect solution uh it's a product like anything else need to start right exactly it needs to just be a thing and in no time it will Revolution and evolve like no other and to the troll I literally sent it I I don't have a paid LinkedIn so I had to request you as a whatever the hell they are follow or anything it's in the request literally there's a message from Bernie saying here's be my friend or something with the link that you click to join it's pretty simple it's not rocket science if the person can't figure out how to join a streamyard invite then I seriously doubt there any engineer worth talking to so I mean it's it's not rocket science you know we're talking about little 5-year-olds can figure out how to click a link that says streamyard invite on it um if you can't figure that out then you most likely have no idea how electrical engineering Works anyway I also not really interested in having people come up here and rage out with their CNN brains about how they think stuff works and just adamantly you know making assertive uh op arguments of authority because I get tired of all that [ __ ] um so if that happens that'll be short yeah if it's like you you can ask respectful questions and if it turns into anything but asking questions and having actual scientific dialogue you shall be booted but we're here for science we yeah no one's afraid of it being challenged here um exactly there any other questions in the chat let's see uh give me two minutes Steve and I will bring you up how much it can be scaled up before it starts hitting the law of diminishing returns uh I don't think there really is a law of diminishing returns related to this in general other than the Practical engineering of the devices themselves so for the most part I think that you can you can get it to a pretty serious amounts of power um that you know just depends on how big you want the thing to be and then as time goes on and the engineering improves presumably the devices get smaller with the output getting higher oh somebody says just have a transfer switch to the breaker oh yeah I mean I don't know again I'm not really an electrical engineer but that seems like a good solution just a transfer switch to the breaker box same as a backup generator yeah same thing yep you know it cost uh about two grand to get switched over actually my brother had that done to his his because he has a UPS power system in case well he lives more in a rural area so they tend to get uh black outs more often especially with bad weather and uh yeah he just flips a switch and he could turn his UPS system on and you know you'll have power to you know most of the devices in this house not everything but you know he has that option right yeah that'd be sweet if uh we actually had somebody that literally worked for one of elon's companies because I think that I what I want to get is opinion on this stuff I mean it's crazy that he's got a company called Tesla that's making electric cars that doesn't know about over and he's got a company called SpaceX that's still using conventional Rockets to shoot information up into the sky when we have potentially uh gravity manipulation and SpaceTime manipulation Technologies which render all of that completely obsolete uh so I don't know it's weird too because I've got to be one of the fastest growing Twitter accounts by volume on Twitter on X over the last nine months and I've been talking about the craziest [ __ ] that's out there like out of anybody and had huge engagement and he just keeps dodging every like people have even asked him to weigh in and he's dodged it it's it's really damn bizarre man and I think he's the number one defense contractor as well uh or he's up there so I don't know what gonna get my uh coil hooked up to show a live electrolysis making hydrogen from water demo uh for two minutes and then I will bring Steve up so he can ask some engineering questions to Mike on his work JK Philly fan asks solid state will it require a certain ambient temperature for performance optimization um I didn't ask that go ahead you go yeah um this guy that ran the site Quantum magnetics unfortunately he's passed away uh in 2021 he was working on the cell technology that I'm working on and uh his system you noticed if you put it in the sunlight there wasn't increase of potential with thermal heat so that's pretty interesting All In its own so yeah it it all depends on um the elements used in the power cell uh you know the increase of voltage can happen due to Thermal uh increas you know being exposed to sunlight or hot temperatures and also in cool temperatures a lot of batteries they go into a sleep State you know they start losing power and that's where kind of the Tesla cars have kind of really hurt as far as you know driving in subzero temperatures they start losing a lot of their their energy uh output and capacitance so that's always been an issue with the Tesla occurs um there are systems out there that you know have battery warmers to keep the batteries at a certain temperature so they can maintain that capacitance but what the question is now you're still feeding off the battery because you have to power the battery warmer so so you know it's kind of defeating itself right there you know how much power does it take to keep the battery warm or warm meanwhile it's feeding that power off the battery right you kind of get nowhere fast with that one you know so it's you know the technology is not there yet you know like I I'm all for electric cars but my problem is is when they have to charge up they're they're still hooking up to the grid well what's powering the grid fossil fuels so you you might not be going to the gas station but you're still pulling it Off the Grid you know the regular grid that's using fossil fuels to generate that power so until you can have a Tesla car work on the technology that I'm doing where when the car is at rest and the load is off the battery the battery can recharge itself so there's many advantages with that now you could go on long trips all you have to do is make a stop have one hour lunch and you might gain back 25% of your battery in that one hour time so you can carry on your you don't have to worry about plugging in where the battery can actually do it itself um the do you need a battery question people asked the temperature could be a factor I don't know on the device that I looked at maybe something I asked about uh technically uh I'm not sure if you have to have a battery but I the idea of the battery would be that there there something you're charging actively so same idea is like the test the wall thing so generally you shouldn't need a battery for these overunity devices because like I said they're just producing charge constantly but what do you do with the extra energy that's not being used uh you know of course you don't want it to go to waste so you would potentially use and you need to be able to control how much energy it's outputting as well so these are engineering uh questions and complications so I guess the answer do you need a battery no but do you want to have a battery probably yes because you want to be able to charge that up and then use and distribute that energy as possible um how small can you make the device the devices can be made pretty small but not nanoscale small I mean maybe they can I don't know uh but that wasn't that's not in the that's not what I'm I'm planning at all in this at this time uh and I think that the size of the device is proportionate to the amount of energy output so the smaller it is the less energy it's going to Output um somebody also asked what the timeline of the roll out is and I don't have a timeline of roll out or anything like that at the moment but those would be some things that I'm you know working on behind the scenes in terms of what the roll out would look like and how long it would be in general so yeah good questions from the chat out there go ahead yeah I think it's just going to be a slow trickle you know in the next uh 50 years of you know these Technologies eventually you're going to get rolled out slowly because you know you just can't throw everything out all out at once you know society's got to reage itself to the change right the infrastructure has to go in place uh new devices have to be built for uh modifying your house Power Systems you know there's a lot of engineering that has to be rolled out over a series of you know several decades you know it's not going to happen overnight so you know as long as we have a steady trickle of technology that you know is definitely going to benefit us all in the long run maybe not for myself and you but like my daughter you know she's only 12 years old you know hopefully she'll see some of the stuff that you know Daddy's been working on for years and years and some of Daddy's ideas might actually become a reality in regular mainstream industry you know like the power cell technology stuff like that you know she might see that down the RO yeah I think that's part of the reason why the information is even allowed to be out a lot of people that say you're going to get silenced or whatever well realize there is a faction of people within the government that want this information to be out there because of what Mike just said they want their children and grandchildren to grow up in a better world the suppression has gotten completely out of control we're talking about suppression now where people don't even realize what we're capable of anymore to just literally explain what they what we see in multiple military videos people just think it has to be fake because mainstream public has no idea of what we're capable of because we've gotten into this Loop of going back and forth where only thing only things that can be possible are what people are told on TV and what they read in scientific papers that are publicly available but that's not how the real world works that's just what people have been that's how the knowledge of the suppression of knowledge works so um that's why I think there are people that want it out that's why there are people not stopping me uh and that's just my opinion uh of of why you know this stuff hasn't been silenced in general yeah yeah like I said you know you can only keep a secret so long right yeah I agreed sorry Steve I have to mute you because you have yet to turn off what you were watching uh what you were watching it on whether it was X or YouTube in the background that's what's giving the background noise there and uh my light is too messed up I'm gonna have to change the camera angle to show the actual hydrogen here so I will remove that for a sec and oh uh I don't uh sorry to jump in here um there has been a really cool invention U that's just coming out of I believe the you um Germany they came up with this new material that absorbs the hydrogen it's called hydrogen paste so you could actually Infuse hydrogen gas into this paste and now it's in a stable state that it will not explode it it could get hit whatever it's very stable storage device so now you can actually store hydrogen in these tubes of paste and it can be released you know in a controlled Manner and actually run an engine so it's called hydrogen paste you might want to look that up online so new technology is coming out I still think there's a lot of room for hydrogen stuff let's get to our new guest that we've got here Steve Krug welcome to the chat my man so why don't you give us a background of who you are and what your uh what you want to weigh in on hey uh how's my audio it it's really horrible um do you mind going into the settings the audio option there should be uh you can click on activate background noise cancellation as well as The Equalizer and then also if you have a different microphone please try switching it to it because the one you're currently on uh is causing a lot of distortion yeah we're hearing your keyboard typing so your key I'm guessing your M your mic is in your keyboard or something you're on a laptop maybe right yeah right close and it sounds like it's right next to a fan too potentially um okay yes uh the hydrogen literally is the future uh they've been been saying that forever just like they've been saying uh Fusion uh energy is the future too which they both are uh but it's that they're connected and they're it's all to do with water and a small amount of electricity and so simple and they can't let that aspect out of the bag they have to instead build all of these different facilities to mine the hyd or yeah literally mine the hydrogen out of the ground from hydrogen pockets as well as create uh different giant plants to uh do the electrolysis to get the hydrogen out of the water for a company and then they have to then do some other process to turn it into a chemical into a solid state just to make it safe to then you know up the costs by a 10,000 fold to a million fold and sell it back to us just like they do with petroleum gasoline uh instead of the Stanley Meers or there's literally hundreds if not thousands of videos on YouTube of do-it-yourself uh engineers and mechanics that do a uh jar of either salt um electrolyte so water Plus either a salt or a potassium or something to conduct electricity you have that with your two electrodes and then you have another pipe or yeah pipe going into a second jar that is the spinner jar that collects all of your hydrogen from the reaction as well as collects all the water at the bottom and from that jar then uh pushes and pumps the just hydrogen remaining into your fuel intake into the engine and boom you've got a hydrogen powered water car and you know what as far as making hydrogen it's not hard to do I think the the real barrier in storage and theology I I know it's exciting but let's get to our guests since we have a guest here with us I know you guys want to talk hydrogen but we've got the guest here I I looked up Steve Craig it took or kug took me about five seconds he's the founder at Axel attended University of Wisconsin Madison worked at space uh Aerospace development engineer at SpaceX Tesla virgin orbit and spin launch uh is that accurate do you want to give us your background is that just a troll uh message or is this your actual thing and we like that's why I just Googled him so let's just let him speak for himself though can you hear me yeah we can hear you all right cool um yeah so I am that commenter I want to apologize in advance I need to be I need to say some crazy things and get your attention otherwise I didn't think that uh you're kind of hard to hear is there can you put the mic closer to your mouth or something microphone but does that make a difference no I don't think it's picking that microphone up I think it's been picked up from my laptop or this camera um did uh did this make a difference yeah that sounded better can keep talking yeah uh how about now yeah much better sure all right yeah so my cords are getting all screwed up so this uh we can hear you a lot better now in and out all right so um yeah I haven't looked into this uh phenomena I should say um which I don't even agree with that term um because I think there's just a lot of open questions that we don't understand but I haven't looked into any of this until like the last year um before that I had no clue about um I mean any of it I had no interest in uh these things that people are apparently seeing um I only just started research once like Obama said on a couple interviews that oh there's things in the sky that people don't uh people aren't people want to are interested in figuring out what that is and we don't know what they are um and having researched this quite a bit um I still haven't found any concrete evidence that that the the Layman behind their computer um Can Say with 100% certainty that any of it is is real I think that there's a lot of preponderance of evidence so which are what are you talking about specifically though you're being very very general and vague I'm all of it I'm literally talking about all of what all like all of what real are you saying that there's you're talking about the UFO phenomenon full phomen I'm talking about MH370 video I'm talking about this energy stuff you're talking about right here so basically anything and everything in conspiracy world you're saying there's no evidence was real uh so you're not like you're not actually an engineer because you said you're coming on to ask some electrical engineering questions yeah so all right well me uh yeah when you preface like that I just want to be honest with you when you preface and make statements like that it kind of Damages your credibility because it comes across like you're coming across as somebody who's setting up kind of poisoning the well and you're setting it up saying well I haven't seen it and I've done some research so therefore whatever you're saying can't be true as opposed to just answering just asking basic questions right I don't care um you can have that anyway please continue valid opinion that you can have um so let's um let's do uh you're a former SpaceX engineer right and you worked with Tesla is that true or what's your background let's just start with that y so um yeah I've worked worked uh at those companies for a couple years each um since 2015 um and since then I've been doing my own thing uh for like the past three years at a startup awesome um and uh yeah I have looked into I think some of the things that you guys have claimed to also look into um like this power from water or hydrogen or whatever um I've looked into that um I I couldn't find anything credible that supports that you know you can have a peret m device it's I I've looked into it like there there's a reason why like just just ask yourself this why hasn't anyone who works in an industry go on these podcasts with you and support everything you're saying just ask yourself that yeah have you watched any of my content or anything did you watch my Tim pool appearance or mine like are you actually asking these questions like salth the guy that works for space force and has the Navy patents for the Tic Tacs has come on both as shows my own Show's a bigger picture with all of that there's there's hey so let me let me stop you there again for so with the Navy patents bring up all of these we'll go we'll go through these one by one let's start with no no no there's no need go back to you saying you haven't seen a single person blah blah I just gave you an example of one and now you're just acting like there was nothing let me address that point point by Point here so let me go Point by point so you said you haven't seen any credible evidence but then we said well we've got Navy engineer Salvador Pas who's active Navy engineer who works on potentially black projects who's got three patents that are out there high temperature piso electric induced super conductivity high frequency gravitational wave generator and inertial mass reduction for a trans medium craft and PS are out there there they're approved patents those patents are approved they're not in question yeah and he has spoken about electrical engineering in depth with me twice and then also I went on Tim pool with DOD contractor engineer Dave Rossy where actually spoke about the MH370 videos I heard you bring up saying that he's seen those effects in private labs and we also have thas Bearden in 1985 talking about how he's done measurements in private Labs seeing the speed of light move at eight times what we would believe to be the speed limit of light in general So when you say stuff like you haven't seen these people well they're there it just seems like you're just discrediting them am I wrong let me let me let me answer what you just said there with all those examples I think I think all those things do have credibility to them actually um you're going to learn about you know my background with all the the research I've done so far so like salador price I think there's some I I think it's very possible that there are um like super high velocity vehicles that are unmanned that the US of the US military contractors have um I think that it could also be partially a s there's probably some proportion of it that is um and also um there could be part of it that is that the US government is now that there is potential for a global conflict that they're using some of this sop to confuse the adversaries what's the what's the goal of the scop in your question because it's funny because you just came out as saying you haven't seen evidence that any of this stuff is real but then you just imagine this conspiracy theory where real science that has approved patents is being used as a scop so now you're the conspiracy theorist so tell us what is the this scop that you're inventing what is the goal of that scop what's the purpose of it so all I'm saying I'm just giving you a hypothesis I don't know if any of this is so you're just asking questions we got questions get questions so let's get back to uh you see no evidence of being able to take hydrogen out of electricity that was that one of what you said hydrogen out of electricity out of water with electricity that that's what you were saying that um are you talking about like like the water powered car from hydrogen that we're talking like Stanley Meyers vehicle right it's like I don't know what that is okay so it is a car that instead of gasoline you have water and that with a very small amount of electricity you put in it boom electrolysis happens it converts that uh water into hydrogen and oxygen which then is fed directly into the combustion engine and is used as your fuel so you have a water fueled car that is a hydrogen car so you're saying that is a scop no I'm not saying that um uh I never said that specifically um so I think that you can take hydrogen and with the correct stoch metric ratios for combustion you can use hydrogen whether it's a compressed gas or liquid hydrogen um if you have that with the appropriate Catalyst uh yeah yeah of course there's plenty of hydrogen powered cars did he did he die off oh there he is he's back um but uh there's no evidence that supports you can create energy out of anywhere in this process which I think is what you guys were proposing you can't create energy out of anything energy cannot be created or destroyed like yes so duh obviously uh yeah we're trying to we we're converting energy is what it is like Fusion or Fusion uh potentially but I guess the bigger question is uh let's just get to the big the big questions right so the idea of The Ether what do you think about the idea of The Ether um Steve right yeah Steve Steve what do you think about the idea of The Ether you think that's silly I don't know what that is so what do you think about Quantum fluctuations in the vacuum any thoughts on that I think that we don't understand it yet we don't understand it so do you agree there that we don't understand right you agree there's stuff we don't understand that's out there like we're not at the Pinnacle of all science right now I mean you agree with that right yeah and so I think that that's what us up here what we've been talking about um is what we're pushing is this idea that we are not at the Pinnacle of science there's still stuff we don't understand we're not 2024 is not the end of human understanding we know that we don't understand dark matter we don't understand Dark Energy uh we don't understand where Quantum fluctuations in the vacuum come from we don't understand why the Casmir Force exists and we're just trying to look for those answers and one possible answer to those is the idea of an ether that the space is not empty so you could call it the SpaceTime ether you could also just call it the fluctuation the quantum fluctuations in the vacuum but then the question is if there are such a thing as virtual particles that are popping into existence where are they coming from where does that come from where does energy come from in general yeah all right so so I actually agree with pretty much everything you're saying there but I do have one big problem with all this the problem that I have is when when one or either of you make a statement saying I know information X and I can't tell you about it do not do that why kills your credibility completely dude I'm not trying to okay please keep going I guess if that you're not done put up or shut up build something to prove it or don't say anything okay so I literally otherwise otherwise plan that's the plan okay I'm just don't make more posts about it Go build something dropped this guy I think I've heard enough but it was good you were it was great honestly I've got one last no I've got two questions before get hit him with some questions um one what was your this is an opportunity of a lifetime I'm an actual engineer uh what were your actual engineering questions for Mike because he's actually building this stuff and we were actually talking real science and electrical engineering clearly you didn't understand so I can only ask specific questions if I first understand what you've been trying to do it is not even clear to me what you're trying to do first so first you need to present something right can I ask a question I have a question Bernie let me ask a question first how many subreddits do you moderate me no and was that your job for Tesla and for what was exactly your job at Tesla and space what was your specific role what was your specific role what were your specific jobs I mean you can just go to my LinkedIn why don't you just tell us if somebody asked me I would say my exact role is I'm a database architect what's what was your role at Tesla and SpaceX um structures and vehicle Dynamics awesome great so I appreciate the conversation I think that when I say that I've got information that I can't say because I've got an NDA it's because I've got a literal NDA look man you're not don't don't even tell people you have an NDA I don't know why yeah there we go thank god let's get rid of this idiot Jesus Christ this is what's wrong science in general like we've got morons that down from positions of authority right sorry for letting it go on for that long I was just kind of letting embarass himself and discredit himself more and more but it was like it's embarrassing that like people he was just so yeah I mean he's not even asking basic questions but like this is the problem like this is why SpaceX now we understand why SpaceX is still shooting conventional Rockets this guy right way that guy actually worked for either SpaceX or freaking Tesla there is I guarantee like that has to be made up fake [ __ ] LinkedIn stuff I mean honestly it's embarrassing for Elon Musk that he hired somebody like that like wow because honestly if that's the best and the brightest out there we are [ __ ] doomed honestly unless he's like elon's like babies Mama's inbred brother or cousin or something so that's why he was like a former employee at both they like we got to give him something it's like oh God I mean I love the the the false sense of confidence and like moral superiority that these people have where it's like I looked into the stuff you're talking about for like a year and I didn't find any credible evidence it's like Jesus man so like basically you have no [ __ ] clue what you're talking about and you want to talk down and condescend to other people that are smarter than you to try to feel in Superior to them where it's just like what's the point of your life man go move on with your failed company or whatever [ __ ] you're trying to work on like I guarantee you're never gonna be successful well no successful this that right there I can guarantee you is an actual example of a human paid bot troll like I guarantee you he is a paid disruptor by some organization whether government or something but here's the letre that he is too [ __ ] stupid and was just on this Playbook of what to do to interrupt like he was on an interrupt Playbook no this is the thing like you call these this is what an NPC is Bernie so this is the thing a lot of people out there think these people are paid ad I know that's what I'm saying literally this guy has been replaced in the real world first in the government like when they're replacing jobs like his job was Slash first and replaced with 20 million Twitter Bots like 10 years ago that's why I'm saying like for him to still be around like so this is the problem the NPCs though they don't have the ability to critical think like for someone like Steve who just came on like I literally don't think this person is conscious like I I consider them to have the same intellectual value of like an animal that's just walking around they're just going through the motions in life you know and like they say stuff like oh you're a conspiracy theorist but then they go well I think that these patents that exist from real Navy engineer or a scop like dude you're the conspiracy theorist you have to let me on it's a once in a lifetime opportunity to have an actual electrical engineer that's actually available on a Friday right now was his begging question I guarantee available every single Friday by the way um part but here's the thing he started out by saying absolutely [Music] everything like so everything like what the [ __ ] are you talking about like that's the literal exact opposite of a specific electrical engineering question you [ __ ] fat troll so hold on let's not let's let's show bit because don't get it I want to address the arguments not the person uh and and one of the things is like okay you make up this claim that oh this is a SC but then you get questioned on your belief and you just go well I don't know I'm just making stuff up and you're like well that's the thing that you're trying to claim that we're doing right you're doing you're rejecting your own insecurities onto other people and I think a lot of this comes from a position where people are scared where like they were to realize that they've been lied to and that the world isn't like the way that they think and what they've been taught was false that it it personally attacks their world view it it threatens their world view and this is where the cognitive dissonance comes into play where they must think that oh no I couldn't have been lied to this person must be full of crap you know and this is why you see that behavior it doesn't require them being paid agitators he's still winning because it was the action of a disruptor and so let's do in the chat in all of the chat put a one if you think he was a paid troll or put a two if you think he was just the world's Ultimus loser uh but let's move back to real science and real free energy and show what the actual hydrogen is what these battery cells are the crystal battery stuff and actually get back to uh maybe Mike if you can uh while we still have you with us because it's getting late there if you don't mind um can you turn yeah I'm gonna have to drop pretty soon as well I'm exhausted and it's been a long long day so I'm probably going to go for another 10 minutes or so and then you guys can keep going but I'll probably drop after that yeah oh wow we're already over two hours yeah no uh absolutely so I was just GNA say Mike if you don't mind giving us a little live demo showing us your actual engineering work that you've built and the aspects of where you're getting these over efficiencies from and what you've been testing because uh for those that are seeing or learning of Mike and his work for the first time right now he has built the bendini motors he has built the end uh the end machine he has also built um the Don Smith generator and the Don Smith generators uh where you have a plasma Arc electrical Arc and that yeah I'll let you talk the best thing you know what I don't have anything set up right now because it's like almost 1 am here fair enough so just give description but you can you can you can actually show um on my YouTube channel the Don Smith generator by extracting Ambient Energy from um a Tesla plasma tube into uh a very simple uh inductor and you can extract that power and uh Rectify it into DC dump it into a capacitor and then run a light with it so very very simple technology like it's not hard to make like you know just get your plasma tube and make an inductor that sits right beside the tube or surround the tube take one wire put it through a fullway bridge rectifier and it has to be a high voltage one because uh the Tesla plas Tu the one I have put about 2.5 kilovolts so you have to use a high voltage hybridge rectifier dump that right into a a a capacitor and then from there you can run a load with it run a light you know it's high frequency but you know it it works it and it works very well that's just one example like I've built many devices that uh like the end machine creates a lot of current but very very little voltage and and the only problem is you have to scale that machine up huge in order to get an over Unity effect you know the one uh Bruce dep was working on his first machine was over 900 pounds so that's a huge amount of magnets so you know some stuff is practical and some stuff is not really practical because of the scale right it becomes more expensive than what it's video the setup of the Dawn Smith generator and you you're pulling the radiant energy out of the plasma Arc of the Tesla coil correct right exactly and then yeah so you'll see how fast it actually turns on and how bright it goes so I was able to sustain 130 volts um and it was running a 60 watt LED bulb which in actual wattage if you hook it up directly to a wat hour meter it's it's drying it's about n watts and the plasma tube only takes 7.5 watts to run so right there you have over Unity so 7.5 watts and I'm running a load that's 9 Watts so right there that's over Unity just a simple little device like that does the video look inside of it there that that's pretty cool look so reminds me of have you seen red Collie on Twitter by any chance with his uh like compaction Fusion device that he's working on looks really cool no no I haven't seen it I posted it once got like 2.5 million views and then I got community noted people saying that you can't can't make cold fusion or that there's no like that other guys I haven't seen any evidence it's like okay well sure man right exactly that's why I'm bringing this up and we're closing and showing this because it's like we were literally talking real scientific knowledge and education actual electrical engineering this entire uh stream all of what Mike's been describing now we're actually showing one just one of his hundreds of experiments and live builds and demos and that just as what's a average troll that has clearly not watched anything at all that just comes to attack like like it's just they the EP like it's just well that's what we Face though it's important because a lot of people argue from a position of ignorance they argue well I haven't been told that I haven't seen that therefore it can't be real and this is why we get stuck in this ER we're literally giving you examples yeah and then also you know when you want to argue from theoretical perspective then you need to be able to argue why it's not possible as well which is um that's why I'm I'm confident in challenging people with the ideas that I've thrown out there about the first and second laws of thermodynamics because what I expect people to say is well I haven't seen that well I haven't seen scientific papers that show that well that doesn't mean it's not true there's a pretty big difference and like I said like I do plan to produce the device to show people um and you know hopefully that will come with more announcements it's really just a question of even if you were to show someone like that the device then their next thing are going to say well there's no scientific paper supporting well there must be wires hidden somewhere in the background and this is what makes it so difficult is that for people like that and I don't want to put him on the spot it's just he's a good example of a lot of people world he needs to be put on the he is a troll he had there's no real science there's no anything with that he didn't say a single scientific thing at all to be honest with you yeah exact client take scrutiny that's why I was like oh I was I brought him on specifically because I actually was like oh we have a real electrical engineering because we are doing real electrical engineering that's all we yeah do in this that's what this actually is and to demonstrate that the ignorant are all that can argue against this because anyone who actually understands what they're talking about and understands this stuff is working on it and there's lots of us doing it and Ashton we should make this a more regular thing because uh Mike here myself we've been doing these Gerald uh many more Jeremiah uh the whole Apec as well and um there's just too many to name at at this moment as we end this but that uh it's real stuff happening everybody can do it Mike has built uh rebuilt like 10 other famous uh over Unity devices that are on YouTube that are out there like the bendini like the end machine like the Don Smith generator and then from all of those applied them into a more advanced model that he's built of his own device that combin all of those principles thus taking the level of over efficiency and overunity and application to the next exponential up and it's what we all need to be doing and so let me jump in because I want to first appreciate you guys who are like I'm not traditionally an engineer electrical engineer but I appreciate that you guys are out there doing the engineering because a lot of these so-called scientists don't ever do anything experimental or engineering related and the science is the study of observable reality people forget that a lot of people think that science is a scientific paper that somebody wrote science is literally studying observable reality and using the scientific method coming up with hypothesis going doing your experiment ments getting a result evaluating the hypothesis and if necessary going back and EV and creating a new hypothesis it's actually not that complicated but yet and this is where people who are not who don't do science they think that oh it's what I've been told it's what I've read that's that's not science it's not what science is guys so thank you guys for people yeah and that's why I um think Michael Faraday and Tesla for being the type of inventor um they were because you know they had a theory but they actually built what they envisioned and actually got results so those to M right yeah and I'm gonna drop guys it's it's really late for me I'm tired um but I want to thank you guys for having me on thank as for doing this uh sorry I was literally just trying to get a focus uh to end that off I don't know if it's showing bubbles going up or if videos uh I can see some bubble things if we can set up another one with Jeremiah too I've been wanting to talk to Jeremiah for a while um because I think he's really smart and knowledgeable um and it's funny because I feel like I have a good intuition for the people that are the real scientists that that kind of think outside the box they you know they take that new approach on Old physics um so would would love to do that with you guys in the future and uh if and when I have something to physically show people as well I think that would be awesome to show on a live stream that might be a good way to convince a large number of people um so I'll I'll be thinking about those types of ideas but thanks for having me on to talk about it and I want to say thank you to the four orbs fam right now as well appreciate you and thanks for being in my live streams as well a lot Bernie uh you know so everybody should be following Bernie uh follow Mike as well guys um we should be following the people that are doing the real science so thanks everybody and have a good night peace somebody nice to meet you uh thank you Ashton for joining thank you Mike uh thank you everybody and like Ashton said it's all about the real science and real science is doing Live Science where you are not afraid of scrutiny anyone that tries to ban block not listen or debate or just can't take a question clearly is not on a solid form and it's this what is reality right real is you can take it an argument and you can show and defend it and show the solid reality of what it is that is science you test it and uh right now we're testing my camera and the electrolysis and it's not really showing too much active bubbles but it is showing some and that is a live demonstration of electricity creating hydren gas out of water uh I literally have over 500 videos on my channel of this reaction working much much better than this and teach how everybody can this is actually possible anybody can do it so can you that's what we're all doing uh Mike Faraday research uh make sure you subscribe to Mike as well and all of his work and that Mike has been for years publishing on YouTube his builds testing all of these other people's uh free energy devices uh verifying it and then applying that science to taking it to the next level and he does League of Extraordinary inventors every Friday free energy Friday any last words Mr like yeah I'd like to talk to Ashton again soon seem yeah I'm I'm and uh we'll see you thanks for watching you crazy mother it's just Bernie Bernie just like last week huh weekend at Beres