Salvatore Pais & Ashton Forbes - Pais Effect, Superforce, and Superconductivity
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# Salvatore Pais & Ashton Forbes - Pais Effect, Superforce, and Superconductivity hold on Boom okay we are live sir we are live here today with Salvatore Pas one of my favorite people on the planet right now he is doing my first ever interview this is going to be hard truths with Salvatore pi and Ashton Forbes so right off the bat sir go ahead and introduce yourself never ever called me sir number one call me brother got it brother that that really goes to the soul with me so Ashton thank you very much this is an honor to be your first interview so I'm pretty sure there will be a lot more after this one trust me on that love it now and I hope to be uh in further interviews as well that'd be great now all right let me give a disclaimer um right off the bat uh I'm required to do this so I come on this podcast as a private citizen and the uh let's say the statements speculations opinions that I make are in no way implicating the United States Navy nor the United States space force got it they are my own and as such I shall present them um now can I give a five minutes sort of origin and okay the floor is yours uh s the floor is yours thank you sir um I was born in Romania I'm very proud of my Romanian Heritage you can call me American apple pie made in Romania I just love hearing that I heard it once before and I I like that so uh um I will say something in Romanian so people are convinced that I'm from that basically it says I'm very proud to be Romanian uh hooray for the Romanian people hoay for Romania and nothing without God um and as far as why I'm here uh recently A friend of mine told me that they have changed right after the Tim ventur interview where I gave an interesting rendition of the P Effect called P effect Resurgence by the way I practically implore your audience and everyone on the live stream to Google the P effect resurgence those three words P effect Resurgence it it goes directly to a Tim Ventura page we will tell one day whether it's taken down or not yeah it's you know another little point in the Spectrum let's call it that yeah so basically in in Wikipedia on October uh 18th I believe of this year they changed right after the interview almost they changed to say that my work now represents a scam a pseudo science dis information when you go into Bing now the AI agent never before has done this it calls my work crack pottery and it's almost as if my work is starting to have a concerted effort to be undermined Shadow band and uh you have to question why especially after the Tim ventour interview you have to see that to to see where I'm coming from now it is very important to also understand that I challenge the mainstream physics Community to send their best we're talking about people like caraid we're talking about people like Seth Lloyd Mex uh Max techmar um David Gross uh Brian keading um Stefan Alexander yeah others Frank wilchek um any Nobel Prize winner they have out there I I wish to have a committee whereupon I'm given one hour I'll go to the Blackboard and prove to them that the P effect and the Super Force concept are correct yep I'll show them exactly how they were derived they're extremely simple and minimalistic math I believe in aam's razor I do not believe that mathematical acrobatics should pass for great physics as a matter of fact I believe the simpler the mathematics the more important the physics especially if if you have a good understanding of what the problem is yeah many times great physics is found by accident is not actually looked for and uh one other thing that I wish to mention also is that this is not new physics this is a new perspective on Old physics W and this is what makes it incredibly interesting because there's so many things out there that have not been tried yet it is as if classical electromagnetism ISM theory has been uh put aside the moment quantum theory came in a lot of things that were introduced by Oliver heavyside into the equation of James Clerk Maxwell were sidelined and things they should have been looked at weren't uh anyway I I I will not um there's one more thing that I need to say because um it U it it um we have to be careful exactly how I answer certain questions on the P effect sure because unfortunately as almost every other piece of physics out there the the pis effect can be weaponized absolutely and it can create a super weapon of all weapons a weapon of such incredible power as to render the tulam device a popcon in comparison and this is not hubus this is mathematics and physics now it it it is also important to realize that a weapon of this nature any army and I mean any army that would feel the weapon of this nature first would become invincible number one number two and this is incredibly it's very very important to understand what the this super weapon would represent as a new Epoch in deterrence no Sayan Nation is suicidal and any insane Nation should not exist hence let's leave the super weapon in the realm of physics but let let the audience know let your live stream know that certain things numbers frequency ranges spectrums I cannot discuss that's fine this is something that can be quite detrimental to National Security if taken in the how should I say from the incorrect perspective so I will not even touch on that if I I I hope I have your understanding that if I disagree with the question I will try to be as uh as polite as possible but I will say in the interest of National Security I cannot answer that question yeah sir you already went through like four of my questions right there uh from your interview for your intro right there um and I just want to agree with you on that front you know I've heard you say multiple times you are not a spy and you are not a patriot I am also not a spy and I am a patriot as well um and to that sense the the thing I would bring up is this is actually one of the optional things I was going to bring up at the end but you just kind of addressed it is that uh my opinion is that most likely our foreign adversaries have already potentially figured out this type of Technology if what you're going to be telling to us is true and what that means from a Humanity's perspective is we need to be very responsible with this technology because I agree with you I talked about it last night on my space that Mutual assur destruction but it's a whole different Epoch of deterrence that we are it's not just nuclear weapons anymore now we're talking about something that's millions of times something that can modify SpaceTime and as a matter of fact the schwinger limit breaking breaking the schwinger limit points to that fact this is physics this is not this is not crack Pottery it's not Fiction it's just science no absolutely not sometimes I wish it was yeah me too it is not science fiction this is science fact and I'm like you if I accidentally call you sir it's just a matter of respect I do that a lot for people that I respect and you're one of the people I have the same thing don't take personal off if I do it B by it my own boss is like stop calling me sir he's a great dude so anyway so you ready to dig into this thing because I think that you touched on part of what I want to begin with which is um you've mentioned in your previous podcast and I don't want to rehash all the stuff that you've talked about before especially with Kurt who I thought you had a great interview with I listened to the whole thing and he's a very smart guy especially when he was talking about quantum gravity I just thought wow this guy is super intelligent oh k j mongle is truly a theoretical if he was representative of the mainstream physics community and he had a say I'm 100% that at least you would give me a hearing yep at least and I think that our plan here what I want to do is hopefully vindicate you in their eyes as well and get that hearing that you want CU I think that what we're going to be talking about today the physics that we're going to be going over is practical it's stuff that can really exist and we need to make sure that it gets the proper respect and that kind of goes into my first question and point is that you've mentioned that your papers were submitted to I believe Cornell and they wouldn't publish them without a sponsor right why do you think that is what what do you think your view is there it um Cornell University archive is in my opinion the best blueprint uh service of all time as a matter of fact once you publish an archive most likely your paper will be published in a highly impacted Journal if at least if not a high impact at least a moderate impact Journal so in other words 100% your paper will be published so I have great respect for archive uh the fact that they need sponsors maybe it's quite possible that a lot of uh individuals put certain physics in there that is I look Joe the plumber can write a physics paper if he understands the the the precepts the the foundational the fundamentals of physics once you understand them you can write a physics paper and even Joe deplama can publish an archive if he has a sponsor unfortunately yeah but the whole idea being is we're not living in the time of Einstein where basically a Swiss patent Clerk can get five papers published this is the ano mirabilis the the year of the greatest five papers in my opinion that open physics to a whole different dimension of of of of of um of reality of of possibility conditional possibility there's no such thing as impossibility there only conditional possibilities but to go back to the idea of why I think archive is blocking and needs a sponsor is sometimes you can just you cannot just go on archive and say look Einstein was wrong and here is the please you know there there have been so many proofs as to the fact that the gravitational field equations of Einstein must be at least partially correct because there's so much experimental evidence for it so bring if you have a theoretical argument against Einstein then you must argue from a very strong mathematical and physical background and also present experimental proof and some of these papers unfortunately do not now I understand where they're coming from however in my opinion we do not live in the time of Plank and Einstein and Heisenberg and the great ones even fan I mean fan is we talk about 1950s still it's a it's hard to and sometimes people that should not even get there because they know the editor or the chief editor please nepotism in physics un permissible I would argue as well just to kind of not to cut you off but I think that I agree with you there and what I would argue is that Academia has kind of Forgotten what science is right science is a scientific method it's the uh study of observable reality of being able to experiment uh and be able to prove Concepts you know and I think that now what you just pointed out is that it's been inundated with credentialism right and saying who do you know and what do you know um and so you know one kind of point that I would say kind of closing that bit off because I think that you have been done a disservice is that sometimes seeing is believing you know imagine if we had video proof or experimental proof out there that could prove your Concepts right maybe that would give another level of credibility to the things that you're saying absolutely sir AB experiment Trump's Theory every time totally again experiment Trump's Theory every time abolutely and it's an interesting verb and a lot of people get a little itchy when they hear that word but still experiment trumps Theory every time now can I just give a quick rendition of the P effect Resurgence oh because it's important for people to uh before u in in in my papers is actually in my patents there was one paper that I was able to publish in a high impact Journal itle e transactions on plasma science uh it's on the plasma compression Fusion device and the uh Chief editor had uh two two different um I went through two different review boards I I mean it took a long time as you can see if you look at it took a long time for me to publish this B I went back and forth argue this argue but at least they were open-minded enough to realize it was something new something worthy of being seen again this is all I ask for is a chance to express myself to express this physics that I think can have some meaning to the progress of civilization y I want nothing more I don't want royalties I don't want money for the I don't want anything except the progress of civilization we need unification of civilization in order that we do not perish from the earth I'm afraid of the future sir it look extremely Bleak at this point in time and we have we either come together and as one one unification one UniFi civilization or We Shall Perish that's what I've said many times as well actually and I think that what you said about science is um very accurate too and that the way I've seen Science 2 is that it can be encrusted very molded and that it takes somebody to push it forward break through the barrier right and with your science that's what I see is that I see that people don't want to believe in it because they haven't been told that it's possible and if they were to just look at your your math look at your models I think that they would realize that there's something there that's actually substantial and then it can push us forward the thing you said about unification I say that almost every single time is that we live in such a divided world right now where if we get that unification this this science could potentially be that thing that unifies towards common purpose right the physics of the Super Force in my opinion can bring about unification of of mind and soul yeah the two should not be driven apart they're one and the same one manifestation of the other all is one one is all this is the true basis of hermeticism and this is the true basis of all future of civilization if we have a chance to survive this is it unification of civilization it has to be a common goal a common objective and why not I remember at one point Eric Weinstein as a matter of fact mentioned one time travel maybe this should be our final objective to leave this earth break the shackles of Earth break the bounds of Earth and and become an Interstellar civilization that maybe just maybe will give us a CH chance for survival the the road that we are currently on is total abysmal and predition couldn't agree more so let's let's attack your quickly oh actually I was gonna go to that in just a second I think that's the next question if you don't mind because what I want to do is I want to debunk this there's a a debunk of a debunk of you so the biggest thing I think your detractors mention when we talk about your patents is they claim that you can patent anything now what I read from or from watching your last interview is that only three of your five patents were even approved which to me would indicate that it's not true so I would like to get your opinion on that sir there's very simple way to debunk the I don't even know what the correct terminology is anymore for example I don't use UAP UFOs you shouldn't have raas 70 years of History just because you think that new terminology would somehow eliminate the derision the derision is far more basic than that history is important sir y never forget never forget history okay but anyway let the the way to argue that is look at the office actions of a great primary examiner called Philip bonzel of USPTO oh my goodness him and I went back and forth between him Mark glut who is the uh United States navir patent uh lawyer and also a good friend of mine a amazing P lawyer this trust me anybody that can write those and also the office actions you should see what Mark did you should see what Mark glute did with the office actions in response to Philip bonzel Philip bonzel I mean he really bit into the physics he said you cannot tell me that it's possible to create electric fields on the order of 10 to the 18 volts per meter and induction magnetic induction otherwise known as B fields magnetic flux density on the order of 10 to the N Teslas and it's a easy way to remember that it's E equals CB C being the speed of light free space but anyway so that's how I remember the numbers sometimes I forget them myself but the whole idea is once once you're able to create it's not exactly that you create e and B of that it's the energy density that you can create from rendering the P effect and the P effect speaking to the P effect is it okay if I yeah I think that's a good Segway that was my next thing so Jump On In what's your definition of the pious effect for our viewers okay it it it can be thought of as controlled motion of electrically charged matter going from solid to plasma undergoing rapid acceleration transients via accelerated vibration and or accelerated spin leading into very high energy densities being formed because remember the electromagnetic energy flux is really the speed of light c times the energy density the Epsilon subot the Epsilon sorry sometimes I I drift into my my my English so the the Epsilon zero uh times um um um the electric field Square so C * Epsilon 0 times the electric field square that is your s your the magnitude of your pointing Vector let's call it that's the electromagnetic flux and and that electromagnetic energy flux if it's on the order of 10^ the 33 watts per met Square which really corresponds to a energy density on the order of 10 to the 25 jewles per meter cubed then we can break the swinger limit H if we can achieve anything past that those particular values we can actually um put it this way vacuum Decay complete vacuum Decay interesting so the swinger limit is really the achievement that all of a sudden you the the very Quantum fabric of space time it is unraveled it breaks apart it tears apart and you can see it by the formation of particle anti particle pairs mhm I heard you talk about this quite a bit now real quick on that the vibration keep going let me give yeah let me I'm sorry you're fine Ash I promise this is the only time I'll interrupt because it's important to see the the that's why I call it the Resurgence of the P effect another way to see what the P effect is all about is to say it's really the generation of extremely high energy densities yep that are up up by The Accelerated vibration and or accelerated spin of a non equilibrium plasma okay that means the plasma that's out of equilibrium you can think of of that um they have a term for it called cold plasma cold as in you know non- thermal plasma and it really has to do with the um the electrons of this plasma uh that talks to the plasma density very high I cannot go into numbers but anyway okay so what right so these the the the number of these electrons do not observe something called a Maxell boltzman distribution that's what a COR plasma is all about an out of equilibrium or non equilibrium plasma once you drive that far from equilibrium at a particular vibrational frequency okay you can EX you can induce extremely high energy densities yeah if if you do this locally think of it you know the thing popped into my mind sometimes you know some crazy stuff but anyway um think of it as a steak you take the meat tenderizer you know the big hammer Y and you keep on pummeling in the same spot over and over what do you see eventually a hoore yeah a ain't that interesting so is that the vibrational acceleration there that you're kind of describing what I'm describing is the unraveling the ripping apart the tearing apart locally of the space time fabric at a Quantum level determined by this incredible amount of energy density that is put at that particular point the more energy you put in a particular point the more that in in that locality SpaceTime will break apart will tear apart and it's possible that a hoore a will develop like a black hole almost if we truly understand what a black hole is um but you see I just like Frank wilch see Frank wilch also believes in the materiality of the vacuum in other words we we're dealing I'm not quite sure if it's a crystal lattice we're not talk about time crystals here even though that's another thing that Professor wilch is greatly known for but we're talk about almost like a um the on a at a Quantum level you can think of SpaceTime as being a material it could be a super fluid but it also has almost a A Spacetime geometric structure to it yep and that's what my Super Force speaks to what is your thought this mind it's quite possible others have come up with these ideas before but the equation one in that Super Force paper and please please post the Super Force paper and also the aiaa paper and also the IPS paper to your live stream and send it to everyone you know those three papers best represent my work I I believe in the in the number three uh like a a a great man that that once lived and uh I shall not mention because I mentioned him before and many and he trust me this Nicola Tesla will go down in history as one of the greatest we've ever had I agree with sir and the way he was treated abysmal absolutely abyssmal that dude JP Morgan watch out watch out if you know what I mean anyway yeah yeah uh so yeah I think that um interesting enough so I think for people who are in the chat you know what you just said about the papers I've posted them on my Twitter before I'll throw them in the the uh description later on on as well but share those papers s here is telling you guys that you know share them far and wide um those are very important now with respect to uh some of what you're just talking about around the pious effect you know I think that what I saw in one of your past interviews too was that using vibrations as opposed to spin is potentially more beneficial could you explain that a little bit yes sir you can um for example the we we tried an experiment uh called the high energy electromagnetic field generator to see whether we can get the um magnitudes of the pointing Vector namely the electromagnetic energy fluxes uh very high up based on accelerated spin of an electrically charged object unfortunately we could not get an electric charge more than 10 to the minus8 kums you put that in that Sigma squar term which is the surface charge density squared and you'll see it's it's quite a deterrent we're talking about 10 Theus 16 going against you and uh even though we try to make the test section very small to it's still however for anyone that's out there and wants to see further what the high energy electromagnetic field Genera experiment brought I encourage them put a fo in and actually get the unclassified report there were two anomalies there were two anomalies that were observed as a matter of fact some very highly placed people from the technical Committee of the Senate arm Services committee came to nav a px to interrogate how should I say the members of The Invention evaluation board on why they passed these five patent applications because a lot of people said that if anything these should have been classified so there was a whole team that was was sent from the Senate arm service committee to investigate I I'm pretty sure that U that certain individuals I I shall not name names but they must have said oh this was a scam this was a total uh misappropriation of funds even though we're talking about only what 0.5 million for like I don't know like 15 people over a period of three years please I mean do the math and you'll see what I'm talking about compared to some of the stuff that's going on but anyway I shall I shall not make it too dark now so so the whole idea being is there's a report out there it's unclassified and it talks about two and so even with a charge like 10 to the minus 8 kums instead of the one Kum needed to get the kind of energy densities we were truly looking for to observe certain phenomena that I cannot discuss those uh are that's anyway yeah um even with that two anomalies were reported and actually in the report so that's interesting yeah I'm experimental observations we're not talking about Theory here we talk about experimental observations and that's my next question too related to this accelerated vibration like what's the delivery mechanism can a laser do that or can you speak to that or is that uh sure sure I I shall speak with it but only in the general yeah sure just to point just to point that uh it is very interesting that the 2023 physics Nobel Prize Went For What electron Dynamics MH induced by atos second lasers yeah interesting the minus 18 second lasers very interesting we not about fto second we talk about atosc there's a reason so let me say let me just leave it there interesting yeah and okay are you're familiar with meta materials sir probably right I have some familiarity with that yes sir so but I I I would rather not discuss that portion okay it has something to do with certain things so that's fine so let's go on to the next one then in terms of your patents uh this might be a question I don't know if you can answer or not but do you think that these patents are operable today what we know about technology see a lot of people have questioned on that and said how dare the USPTO Publishers they were not properly enabled because you know the all the ingredients are there yeah but you have you have to know what you're doing number one number two it is important to understand the nature of the materials the P electrics exactly how they operate for example what is the main difference between strontium titanate barium titanate what exactly is something called the most power effect anyway I mentioned it actually in a publication of mine one of the few papers I was able to actually publish in a journal but only because it was in the beginning of the journal and I think my my opinion is is that the chief editor needed papers more than anything and and he was taken aback by by the the what's what's the best the ambition of the idea let's let's P it was actually the high energy electromagnetic field generator that paper that I published I think it was the international Journal Journal of Space Science and Engineering yeah and trust me I tried to publish the Super Force paper at the same Journal thinking you know I publish the conditional possibility of spacecraft of space uh conditional possibility of spacecraft propulsion at superluminal speeds M and that high energy electromagnetic field generator in the same volume I think it was volume three of I think I think it was issue anyway it was um they were both published in the same volume one of them is a technical note the other is a full-fledged paper y um a technical paper uh I try to publish the Super Force paper in the same Journal they they would not it's it's as if my name it is on some sort of a blacklist you know they mean oh salv toz no no no just I'm talking about sending papers and having rejections within a matter of 12 to 15 hours I wow that's interesting what I'm saying I don't know have you ever gotten the uh my results are changing quickly if I Google you right now is that gonna happen it's a bit of a badge of honor you know I I uh between you and I uh I have some friends back in New York City that how should I say they watch for my statistics one of them said dude one time I Googled your name and because he he watches he he actually has a statistical charart of he said that at one point in time my when you Google salvator you got over 300 Million results and all of a sudden it dropped to like seven million and then it went up he had no idea what was going on he said this is not possible what what are we talking about here I mean you have numbers higher than Andrew Tate but oh I I hope I didn't get anybody cancelled for from you I don't think so at least not in the sense you connected to Romania but anyway so uh I think I wanted to jump into the Super Force in your equation number one which you wanted to talk about because I read through your paper I looked through all the patents as well trying to do my best as a Layman to understand them and when I look at your super force uh you know especially with equation number one it basically says that if you look carefully at the mathematical structure of the plank Force you can realize that this is the Super Force it does not contain the H bar I've heard you say this namely the modified reduced plank constant therefore it can relate to Quantum phenomena exhibiting macroscopic classical Behavior namely a macroscopic Quantum phenomenon now when I look at that I think are we talking about a unification of quanta and macro and is that what you how you would argue your uh equations here absolutely abolutely sir equation one speaks to exactly what you're talking about and as a matter of fact page two of the it's just a three-page paper I mean anybody for goodness sake oh maybe that's why I got a 15h hour rejection because it was extremely fast but you know just that equation one yeah is so powerful because I will tell you what it says it actually says it's the Super Force that is the energy gradient at both the plank scale and the energy gradient at the Horizon scale which is when talk about observable universe how is that possible that the Super Force can be the energy gradient at the very lowest of scales signifying the lowest of our Realms the quantum realm and also the highest that we understand the observable universe not only that I believe because of the way it's fashioned for example if one day we were to find out that our universe doesn't have an observable radius say of like on the order of 10 to the 27 uh 10 to the 27 meters it has something on the order of 10 to the 80 meters or something of that nature that equation would give you how much mass is in that structure which would think what that means it means really we're living in some sort of a matrix Like A Spacetime geometric structure that can be altered yeah a construct right construct a construct of some sorts which is I'm not going to talk to the simulation hypothesis because I think this is very real I I I believe when I pinch myself it really hurts so so I Einstein said something far far far more subtle and far more um philosophical nature namely he believes the Moon is still there even though he's not looking absolutely that's a good argument yeah and I think that we can the spiritual stuff we can dig into potentially and then the follow interview because I think that that we probably are on the same wavelength there in terms of our beliefs on that and what the only thing I would say is that from my own personal perspective the more I dig into the science and dig around the science especially around this the more spiritual I actually become I thought it would be the opposite but it turns out that no I think that I have more of a spiritual understanding the more I dig into science which is very interesting and I want equation one from now on to be addressed that as the Super Force equation you know if if meaku can can say that his you know here has the god equation then you know I think my hubus level is far lower by saying it's mine is the Super Force equation okay it was your the way you explained it um I think I've heard you say before as well is the super force is acting on SpaceTime geometric structure at all points in space and time as well is that equivalent definition which means what it also speaks to quantum entanglement that means every point in in space and time is connected because of the existence of this Super Force yes it exists at 10 to Theus 35 M which is the plank length but still it oh one one more thing the Super Force equation speaks to which is when I realized that I said whoa whoa whoa oh my goodness um if you put in that equation okay so the superforce the equation for it is C to the power of four divided by Big G so it basically says speed of light to the fourth power divided by Big G and and um if you you put in um if you realize there's such a thing for example okay if it talks to an energy gradient at every scale because that's what equation one really says if it goes from the very smallest to the very highest maybe it goes for everything in between so I tried the mass of the proton yeah guess what the Super Force says okay I put in the mass so in um the Super Force being mc² divided by that characteristic length I put the mass of the proton which is like 10 the minus 27 kilograms okay and guess what I get I get a a characteristic length on the order of what the short child radius for proton so the proton is treated by the Super Force as a black hole no wonder the proton takes so long to Decay if ever got it that is an amazing equation the Super Force equation will one day be known by physics everywhere I hope I you know and I do not mind if they rederive it they call it their own but at least you know somewhere in a footnote they say you know some crackpot called P thought of this too you know we're not gonna call you that I want to be respectful about that I know that you're sensitive as well about what people call you and I think that that's part of the Vindication that I want to go through with you as well is that I tell you sir I've been I've been I mean what we talk about blood tears sweat and misery of the mind and the Soul over this because the moment they called my work U and I understand may maybe I understand I'm not quite sure exactly what why the drive war zone called my papers the UFO patents the UFO Navy patterns the moment again it it became a symbol of ridicule and mainstream physicists would not even look at that because again symbol of derision and I understand why they changed the the terminology to you AP but you shouldn't I agree because we're talk about the history of so many people who were involved in the subject matter and for them and them alone we should leave that term as is my opinion the U and UFO should be unacknowledged I agree with you I the UFO thing as well and I also don't want to link your work to UFO because it's really just science it's not necessarily related to UFOs although there's obviously a connection there because from what people see it can describe that as well so you know that's why when we look at the description of my discussion with you it doesn't mention that at all because what we're digging into here is the science right we're digging into quanta and macro unification we're going to dig into superc conductivity here in a minute as well and that's the stuff that I want to learn about the stuff that's not Fiction it's just science so one quick question one more thing about the second sorry about and I promised you not to interrupt again oh you're fine it's your show here sir no no no the this is your first interview so I should be a little more polite but this is my chance to to say certain things and who knows maybe I get a word from command sh and and I can't and this may be my last in who knows who knows anything can happen the truth is but as Andrew Tate once said I will never suicide myself yeah but anyway okay now now the the the the idea being of on the second uh page of that paper on the second page of that paper of the Super Force paper uh take a good look at the way that I prove that this is the force of unification there's a remarkable formalism very simple that the strong nuclear force divided by the electromagnetic force is one divided by the the defined structure constant U it's usually on the order of 1 divid 137 it's like 007 but anyway and it's very interesting that when you actually take the decimal of that 1 / by 137 and and do it in a calculator and you see what I'm talking about it's as if the numbers become a wave it's as if the numbers it's it's a vibration of so it's it's very strange just look at the way the numbers change and how it's trust to do one divided by 137 and you'll see what I'm talking about now um what's what's truly uh okay what was yeah so so using that idea I was able to show very simply that the strong nuclear force equals the gravitational force at the plank scale equals the Super Force so that the strongest of the forces that we know of the strong nuclear force which operates on the order of 10 to the minus 15 meters uh so one fentom meter and the gravitational force which is the highest that we know of hence the general relativity the Einstein field equations and so forth so those two scales are at the plank scale those two forces are equal and equal to the Super Force hence the Super Force is the force of un of unification that makes a lot of and and you can actually find on that same page very simple with some rudimentary math something that I called in another paper conditional replacement technique and one can Google it and see what I'm talking about the the CR key some people called it at one point cathode ray tube I just don't anyway the conditional replacement technique if taken simple in that linear equation um you can actually show that in both the D and the Shing equations the Super Force exists because it's an energy gradient at the plank scale so do you believe then it's so it's so simple this is why I love it because I like simple mathematics that points to great physics yeah that idea of coupling the two amazes I understand that a lot of people are fascinated by ER equal epr and ads equal CFT and so forth and we can discuss this at one point of in time but I'm sorry Juan Mala we live in a de vacuum as Eric valinda once pointed out I'm pretty sure Juan will be very mad at me at this point in time but anyway Lenny saskin too but I have great respect by the way Lenny susin started out his thing as a plumber in Brooklyn ain't that some speaking of Joe the plumber yeah doesn't matter you start theoretical physicist oh I would love to have him on the comittee as well he he's one of these visual mathematicians he believes in Geometry that's a very interesting mind the way his mind works Lenny and he's like a at a certain age and yet I couldn't tell I mean the man is is is is a giant it's a cerebral giant you know so age Advanced age doesn't mean a thing just like pedigree doesn't mean a thing why shouldn't the Joe the plum be able to even publish in archive because most likely if you can publish an archive maybe your paper will be seen in science nature uh physical review letters it'd be nice but anyway that's a dream all right so um I just for the viewers you know when we talk about unifying Quantum and macro I think I saw a question that was kind of helps uh for them to understand do you believe that faster and light communication is possible based on your equations that we talked about the Super Force um we have to be careful to to understand the nature of the medium okay within the same medium so in other words I I believe a medium speaks to a a given uh uh Light Speed most likely having to do the index of the of refraction of that particular medium and also couple with the speed of light in free space there's a very simple formula that you can see that's a ratio but anyway so in other words if we able to modify the medium it is quite possible that soall faster than the speed of light is is feasible but within that given medium no Einstein was correct it is a quote unquote physical barrier but only only presented by the nature of the medium that Medium can be tenderized you can tenderize it to the point a hole is formed if you putting enough energy density at that particular point in space and time cool so that I appreciate that answer I think that helps out with the viewers quite a bit and I think the next thing we want to jump into is super conductivity so can you define super conductivity for the audience and then in addition to that you talk about high energy densities can room temperature superconductors achieve those densities and how so okay uh that second one I would rather not discuss okay for reasons that I've said before got it the first one it's in the theoretical realm oh speaking of which I would love I believe Leon Cooper is still alive and Stefan Alexander knows him I would love him on that ComEd too okay and we we're talk about the BCS theory of superconductivity yeah we're talking about one of the I I should not use the term Gods to describe men especially uh since hubris may be greatly involved so but he is one of the Giants of superconductivity and I believe he's still alive and also Brian Josephson yeah squid superc conducting Quantum interference devices oh my goodness the stuff that he can do with that but anyway uh uh I hope so people are watching so that they you know your name dropping a lot of people are really smart so yeah both Brian Joseph and Leon Cooper are more than welcome on that committee I I would love to hear oh my goodness they're such Giants but kid kid has to be there I mean this is a man this is the father of true semi in my opinion of of semiconductor technology but not only that he has such ideas for example even in gravitation but because he has the pedigree as an electrical engineer even as a professor at ctech that man is not being hurt properly by the community that supposedly he's not part of science should not have limits agreed sir so what's your definition of superc conductivity for the audience super conductivity well output an electrically charged super fluid could be a superconductor so the idea uh being that it's possible that we can actually slow photons in a superconductor interesting I've heard that that's interesting isn't it very interesting it it talks to the ability of medium now a superconduct itself is is really basically zero resistance as the electron flow goes through a certain Medium say a wire let's call it a wire for lack of a better term even though the way electricity actually moves along the wire rather than through it is very questionable but anyway I shall not go there because I'm already called the crack but I don't need so even though there was a very interesting uh podcast on on veritasium as as to that illusion that uh hey okay I'm I'm diverging I'm taking so many times so so the whole okay and there's one more thing that defines a superconductor that's the MERS effect that's the ability of of the of of the superconductor to actually I believe it actually forms a magnetic field of itself of of its own some sort of Ed currents that actually form on the superconductor and something called the London penetration depth see a magnetic field will actually penetrate the superconductor interesting unlike I thought it worked around it see that's the beauty of it it actually goes to the London penetration that but what it does it forms Ed currents which talk to a magnetic field opposite that repels the magnetic field that's put upon the superconductor so yeah but there's a Landon penetration that and so and you can I actually I remember that I I I wrote a paper I think the room temperature the um the AI scitec uh speaks it was a presentation that was based on a paper that I wrote that I presented at a aiaa scitec 2019 and please make sure you post that because slides four to slide nine is extremely important I even in one slide actually solved the vacuum catastrophe you know the whole idea you know I'm looking at it right now that we get 120 orders of magnitude difference between the quantum realm and and how how how is that possible well it speaks to the idea that maybe we're not dealing with plank LMS here we're dealing with some space cells of a different dimension and terahertz frequencies ain't that some but anyway yeah that's as far as I go I should not say more than that so well I got more then it might Broach further Dr all of a sudden I you call me so the next one though is related I don't know if you can dig into this because I heard on The Theory of Everything podcast too you were mentioning that Bose Einstein condensates can allow for room temperature superc conductive effects is that something you can elaborate on um or is that also kind of pushing it too far that's more that's more the the um okay uh to understand how the room temperature superconductor that I'm talking about which is an active room see I believe believe that uh maybe one way to solve superconductivity at room temperature is not necessarily by material properties to actually find for example lk99 and so forth you know the whole idea of finding a specific material C barium strum type no maybe it has to do with a way that you can influence something that is already a superconductor at very low temperature but make it a superconductor at much higher temperature so raising the critical temperature and actually uh there's a great paper out there still on archive and one can Google it hopefully it's still on hopefully they haven't taken it down there's a lot of concerted effort to make my work look like pseudo science so so someone Google it fast before it goes it's written by Dr Victor LNO uh VI k t o r Lao or Victor with a C I'm not sure heard you Reference last name is LA k hn o LNO and he's from the Russian academ form of the Russian Academy of Sciences he uh he wrote a paper called um something the road or the way to High and um room temperature super conductivity something of that nature used to be on archive but in reference 10 he actually speaks to the idea that the way that I do it the way he believes that that my idea on the room temperature superconductor as possible is that what I'm really doing is forming a Bose Einstein condensate and then actually moving the condensate because of a certain vibration within that field because and you can actually read his paper and see the last paragraph and he references me it's the only actually the only um I believe the only paper out there you know in the academ quote unquote academic community that actually references that particular idea and I think uh he's got he's he's got quite an he's got a point somebody read that paper carefully it's the last page and he references my patent in reference 10 I believe still remember that he he actually wrote a book recently on high temperature super conductivity as well but anyway I digress sorry so no you're fine because that's actually I think you just said the last thing the next thing I was going to say which is I heard you say that uh in a previous interview that extremely low temperatures can create the Bose Einstein condensate which can allow uh things to move as one the electrons potentially if I'm saying that correctly um and that they might even talk about yeah go ahead is macroscopic quantum coherence the idea that is possible under certain conditions for example what's a superconductor a superconductor is really in the words of Phil Anderson the idea of emergence now Phil Anderson Nobel Prize w a great mind he um God I believe he's he's deceased but uh he um at one point he was talking I forget exactly how he tackled that problem anyway I digress that's fine look into the work of Phil Anderson and his idea of emergence and how he links it to something called macroscopic Quantum coherence how how how um a physical object of classical size can behave as a Quantum entity under certain conditions what's the difference that macroscopic Quantum decoherence as opposed to coherence decoherence exactly decoherent that that is the some people think for example the gravitational field could be a decoherence method by which something that should res or should have a quantum mechanical actually it was Roger Penrose that mentioned that but anyway um um the whole idea is decoherence uh it it's it's one as a matter of fact look into slides 4 to9 it's in there look into slides four uh 4 to9 in in my aiaa um uh scitec 2019 presentation it's in there it descri microscopic Quantum coherence to a T and as a matter of fact if you have it up read what I what I write in that particular slide like read the whole thing it's it's uh uh I still remember being in that room I actually got a standing ovation for that slide they were absolutely I mean people was we I I felt so good being able to to to talk to my peers and and getting some feedback that was not so negative in nature so read it do you know who presented before me in that same room Robert Zubin we actually met we that great guy too but okay you go ahead and read that please yeah because I actually I think I quoted this when I was posting these slides on Twitter because there were so many slides I had to break them up into fours and part of it was saying that this is this is a vacuum that has undergone macroscopic Quantum coherence locally around the craft as a result the craft experiences suction into the conditioned vacuum um another part of it says that this may be the very condition to achieve a state of macros opic Quantum coherence the idea idea being that we never leave the system uh let the system achieve thermodynamic equilibrium by constantly delaying the onset of relaxation to the equilibrium hence the production of Maximum entropy is delayed the system May violently react by Genera anomalous emergent phenomena such as but not limited to inertial mass reduction which we're going to talk about here in a minute I think and this speaks to what I call the Progene effect this is the work of Ilia pin you can say in a way that the P effect is the engineering of the pin effect what I call the pin effect his Nobel Prize I believe 1973 if I'm not wrong I remember that the his Nobel Prize a lecture paper being written I think December 73 but anyway uh he also wrote a book called order from chaos very or out of chaos very interesting uh he was I believe chemistry but Ilia progin was an incredible mind and he basically his his idea was The Ordering of what he called dissipated structures that order that chaos can be ordered under certain conditions the idea being you're dealing with a nonlinear medium for example of plasma you drive it far from equilibrium hence accelerated vibration or an accelerated speed Spin and then you have a constant electromagnetic energy going through it like a flux of some kind and and uh you able to uh get these dissipated structures I think he used the example or Bard something called Berard cells Berard I'm not it's it's French uh I I should know better since I took so many but I believe it's Berard the whole idea is for example in on on a thin plate um if you have a layer of oil very thin um and you hit the plate from underneath a metal plate so you need conductivity there to make sure you know if it's a dialectric this thing will never get H so so the the whole idea is they form these in in time they form hexagonal cells hence something that EV that begins chaotic the movement becomes ordered yeah and he used that in his December 19 an in incredible I I suggest everybody go and try to find the um Nobel Prize lecture by Ilia PRI I believe it was 1973 um something about time fluctuation structure anyway very interesting paper yeah you very um I think this may be similar and let me know if it is or not but I think you mentioned um driving the plasma from equilibrium that will begin to self-organize and that the electrons will begin to move and lock Stu in one giant matter wave as well comments on that yes I actually used the phrase that another great uh used volan k i i i absolutely like love Professor K the the only one to reply kindly to my emails like he you know even though he would not support my paper and archive he he gave some very good reasons for it and you I mean I'm I'm 100% sure that if I would have kept you know nudging him stuff event he's that kind of person I I truly see people like that people like that should get Nobel prizes not people that deride others and make fun of them call them cranks and crackpots please come on I've had similar experiences with Academia and the ones I I'm with you are the ones that people that are willing to talk to anyone right not regardless of what their pedigree is that's Professor K people that humble themselves people that don't consider themselves to be soothsayers so those are got his no price for BC by the way yeah he showed it I think by combination of something called evaporative cooling and Laser cooling you can actually cool atoms with lasers ain't that cool that's really cool there's a lot of stuff you can do with lasers so especially with plasmas but anyway I digress I'm gon I'm gonna press you on this next one then so is it fusible to work with uh electrically charge solids then I know we've talked about a lot about plasmas but what about solids in general any theories there hypothetically speaking it's possible under certain conditions but you need electric charges on the order of kums and um it's not easy you can use patrons and something all the patrons are a modern version of of something called a vandag graph generator so you can actually get high charges on on on a particular um uh metallic substrate but it's it's it's not simple and it's not easy to keep that charge from disar in to the medium you sometimes you need High pressures it's it's how should I say it's complicated so I I prefer simple things and I think the best way to do this is with plasmas now now I'm not saying that plasmas are easy to subdue as a matter of fact they're a very interesting animal I sometimes think plasmas have consciousness of their own but I digress um uh yeah okay they have like almost like a double layer you have to study what the Hans alane thought of plasma it's very interesting there's another great um Anthony parat the whole idea is that our universe is more than 99.99% plasma yeah so okay and hence the busard Ramjet the whole but then anyway I I'm digressing on so many levels okay go ahead I'm sure that the people who are being quoted and referenc will appreciate all of the shout outs that you're given them uh so that's why I don't want to slow you down at all so I mean and next the next thing kind of feeds into what we were talking about with your slides which is and as much as you can speak to it how does inertial mass reduction work and what does it mean for the capabilities of both technology and propulsion in general um it works the way that I expressed it in in my public domain got it papers yeah uh what I can speak to even on an experimental level is for example the one thing in my opinion is most important most important is to create these holes and space that's why when you when you show I you know I wanted to make sure that the person that I have the interview with was actually you I look this is my confessional so I actually went to a podcast called the confessionals I think merco Media or something really good a tremendous a really good dude too that dude yeah he's a good guy but anyway very very nice guy uh and and uh um by the way you you come across oh man you come across really good in that podcast bra people should check it out by the way anyway go ahead when I saw when I saw what those orbs did the local of points the locus of points that they formed and the moment I actually I actually slowed down and started because I actually saw one of them actually couple of went in front of of the nose of the aircraft and this thing was we're almost free four so we're talking about very high speeds and I kept on thinking they're trying to form a Locus like almost like a spherical bubble around the aircraft and then I thought more and more I said oh my God they're actually what these three orbs are doing they're depositing energy at a particular even though it goes with a spacecraft still I think they're moving fast enough to have a local locus of points that you can say it's like a spherical bubble that deposits more and more energy within that particular um section of SpaceTime to create this breaking of the schwingl and and if you do that you create a hole in SpaceTime and when I saw what I saw I didn't anticipate when I saw that thing the the the the the hole it formed and then I almost saw like a RI ring that formed around the hall it was like a a refraction of of the of the super fluid nature of I said oh my God this is the P effect I you and then I had to pull myself down say they would never believe that most likely you know Ashton will have to go for absolute hell to prove that this is not you know oh my goodness well we're going through it sir we're going throughway slowing down I wish you the absolute best lock in this because this is the best the best experimental proof that the quote unquote P effect is real so we'll have to have a followup then for sure where we take a look at the videos together and go through it I think the audience would absolutely love that for today though I just want to stay focused on the science just because you know I think we want to vindicate you and your science here and I think we've done a great job so far of explaining how it can be practical and real right as opposed to the detractors who want to dismiss it um now if you have this inertial Mass reduction craft uh do you know what would that look like to The Observer as they're watching that move and would they produce a field or how does that work yeah have you ever seen Star Wars oh yeah I can see your shirt by the way but which the the X-Wing oh I pred myself all the way part of the resistance baby you know anyway the the rebel alliance but I've always been truly a rebel at heart but H is it going to look like the hyperspace jump that they made that on live stre sorry anyway no no no I meant anyway nothing wrong with being a slave no I'm kidding but anyway well as long as our existence depends on others we are all slaves whether we say so or not it's a whole different thing but anyway let's call ourselves Rebels got it while we still we're the Rebel Alliance right now yes sir absolutely okay now um do you remember how the um I think they were called what were they call the the the Imperial Cruisers humongous yeah do you remember how all of a sudden they would just vanish as if a hole was formed into that's exactly what happens with that triangular structure that I represent in the back that's that's how I Envision it and that's why when I saw what I saw in that video I said oh my God but it's very interesting uh and you're 100% right they had to be autonomous and the I'm I'm I'm 100% sure these were some sort of collision of voiding software that I all I remember is that like inside the orb because you also showed the thermographs it there was some sort of a propulsion plan some sort of a power plan there difference yeah there was something going on in the middle of that or but anyway yeah I digress sorry about that no yeah but that's what would happen yeah people are loving it I can already tell so okay so it would look potentially like that hyperspace jump I think that's really cool um you actually just answer one of my other questions which was coming up which was you know do you think that these crafts could be uh there would have to be somebody inside them or could they be remote controlled you know I think that's an interesting question right with respect to your you know yeah go ahead my opinion both both would be possible I think you can make this I think you can make make it into an Interstellar travel uh that's cool I think I think you can do both but I think it's far easier to do the first of all the the loss of human life nobody wants to deal with that goodness gracious so so much sometimes so much better to have these autonomous artificial intelligent agents again this means if if it's true what we saw that means that AI is not a new thing at all but anyway 10 years ago almost right digress I digress way too much oh I I have another theory on something I call the triarchy of sension eventually we'll talk about it it's very interesting has to do with artificial intelligence for example in my opinion you can test whether something has become a artificial general intelligence by basically seeing if if it can generate given say textbook data so we're not talking about stuff that just pulled from the internet but stuff that's pulled from physics manuals something that's been experimentally proven so using textbook data given a certain computational power level I believe as long as the AI the AI agent can generate an original concept it becomes AI That's thinking of GP G yeah go ahead super intelligence is not very far off so I anyway I'm not I'm digressing on so many levels but I another thing for example the Super Force speaks to a super density and eventually I'll talk on that too something called so Super Force super bang because of the super density and super intelligence again I call it the triarchy of creation ah you know after all I'm a crackpot right so since my huus level has been you know inflated to the max why not break the shwing a I'm kid why not just change the whole world because that's what I think we're do here sir that's what I think we're looking at um if you can prove if you can prove that that video is for Ashton that is a Nobel Prize brother I if I if I was the Stockholm Community I'd freaking immediately give you a Nobel Prize in imagery or something or I don't know like creative thinking I'll just take a PO you know I don't need the Nobel Prize but yeah that's only if uh you know like you a priz I also have to say at this point that I would never hurt myself and uh yeah I'm never going to do anything like that either just want to make sure that that's on the record here uh just kidding yes yes neither Ashton nor I would ever suicide ourself thank you never never any circumstances um so also I just want to dig into a little bit kind of what you just mentioned which kind of digs into the stuff we were talking about is in your uh patents you talk about nonlinear medium using a plasma reson inside a cavity uh related to microwaves and then you also say that you can convert high frequency uh electromagnetic waves into gravitational waves can you speak to that at all that has to do with another paper I put out on I think a society of Automotive Engineers remind me to send you that paper I I also have I think yeah like starts with 204 Z that Pap but anyway it it was published in the it's it's it's a paper that was needed to to get uh the patent um that was incredible though that that office action was a first I mean they actually approved it as a first the high high frequency gravitation wave generator it could be because uh prior to this they were shown to be I mean we're talk about the genius of Kip Thorn here you know and and and very bearish and Lio for goodness sake I mean you know the experimental and theoretical Kon of course just like Penrose got it for black holes but anyway and and and by the way sir Roger Penrose or you should be called lord in my opinion so Lord Penrose if you're ever watching this there are no such thing as SpaceTime singularities I'm sorry I disagree with you we can have an argument on it I think uh ABA ashar is correct as in there's a Quantum bounds so in other words it never goes to zero it goes goes to something on the order of the plank density which talks to the super density but anyway that's a whole different ball game we'll talk about the super density one day because it talks to the super bang not the big bang the super bang all right all right sir yeah so I've got a few more questions that are kind of similar to stuff we've talked about I don't know if some of it's going back um you know and I think I've heard something on your Theory of Everything podcast where you talked about there being a thin insulator regarding your inertial mass reduction craft does this actually have to be a physical element or can this be something that can be produced by a field of some sort as well what are your thoughts on that a very good question sir I'll leave it there I love it that's I love when I get that answer honestly because uh the same reason why I send in Freedom of Information Act requests like I don't care what the answer is because no matter what the answer is I glean information off of it uh as an investigator um now I guess the next part two is kind of related to what we were just talking about with uh you know not to go into the the videos that we were talking about but the effect the what we see there in the videos is uh you mentioned I think with the pairing up of electrons causing potentially a suction effect or potentially creating a void that may create the suction effect a void within the vacuum so it's exactly what you see it's almost like a black hole Yeah is it a black hole I guess that's my question see oh my goodness I um does it matter like how you define black I have a feeling between you and I I have a feeling that every black hole for every black hole there's a white hole so I so in other words it's kind of like a wormhole kind of so you have the ability to actually transport from one point to another for so for example going from point A to point C without actually going through point B yeah I think we don't really understand what the quantum vacuum is all about and I have a feeling there there's so much more to physics that I think with still in our infancy we think we almost know it all oh no I agre I think physics it's almost I would say three maybe four months old that's a long time till this thing becomes an adult basically I think JFK mentions that too is that the greater our knowledge increases the greater our ignorance unfolds and I look back at that and I think that we think we're so Advanced but we are still potentially cavemen compared to where we could possibly be is my View and it's funny you bring up the black hole white hole situation that's always something I've wondered about too because what we see in physics is symmetry A lot right the idea if you must have an entrance why not an exit interesting yeah and so uh when you're generating this void in the space time continuum which I believe you argue with these certain energy densities getting to that um would this potentially energize particles outside of the Void do you think or any thoughts and theories on what might might happen there and do you think it would at least look like a black hole I I I I mean I could speculate I can give you my speculation yeah please I think it would be a whole local phenomena I have a feeling almost nothing uh maybe something that um uh I'm not sure whether for example the clouds because you mentioned there were clouds like where those clouds in any way could you see the move in in any way only slight I'm not sure I have a feeling that the the effect would be highly local interesting and it's it's as if a portal is open within a a fabric of some sorts but somehow this fabric has the ability to recal almost spontaneously it's weird again the whole idea is that once you remove this energy density this thing just comes back and that's why super intelligence I truly believe what we're dealing with the inner the universe is a sensient it's a sensient being and and I tell you we better be careful what we do with our planet because you know what antibodies are yeah they fight back right against anything that it doesn't unwanted things right yeah well that that makes me think about some other theories that I wouldn't mind talking with you on another podcast as well which is into more of the you know what are the implications of you know this advanced technology where it came from and what it would mean for you know lots of other philosophical uh approaches but we can save that for another time that's another thing physics and philosophy must be brid again we must marry these two agreed the divorce that went between physics and philosophy should have never been allowed I believe physics has so much to to uh to gain from rearing philosophy and I think Carlo relli others like him Lee Molen oh man that's a phys I I would love him in the committee both of them but I think Lee smolen has taken a Canadian citizenship and you know there's this so in other words the people that would be in this committee would have to be United States citizens due to certain things out yeah out say you know and I'm pretty sure the comedi would be unfortunately I would love to have it televised but I have a feeling you know my betters my superiors would not you know would agree maybe to a skip conference rather than anyway yeah I'm not gonna go there well that's I'm glad I don't have any ndas I don't have to worry about those types of things but I understand the the prickly situation that you might be in sir so again I just appreciate that you're you know able to talk freely about this type of stuff and yeah you know you can out it's just that I was super Furious when when I saw the the the changes they did to the Wikipedia page I mean for goodness they pseudo science that's like you know H vomiting in my face and then spitting on it too you know I mean what else you gotta take a and I'm excuse my language oh you're fine you know I I grew up in not children a tapestry of obscenity Second To None yeah but anyway yeah so I have only a couple other questions I was thinking maybe we' open it up to some uh live chat questions if I see some out there so um one last thing that I've been been curious about which is uh and it kind of goes into the UAP phenomenon and but it's definitely related to your scientific approach is do you think this craft or your craft that you have kind of uh patented can go through solid matter or are there limitations to it what what is your thoughts on that cuz I know that we they talk about multitrans like different being able go through different mediums right water air space but what about solid Mass right um let me just say there are no impossibilities just conditional possibilities under certain conditions everything and anything is possible the trick and this is where it all comes is how to engineer those conditions interesting so in a way I've answered your question in a way I haven't but I'll leave it at that I think a you know one of my favorite characters in in and in and shows uh it wasn't it wasn't the American version of House of Cards it was the British version uh his name was Francis erard Fu it's pretty interesting how the initials go and to say you may possibly say so I could not possibly comment I don't know but that thing stuck in my mind that show was great at least I watched the American version until the last seasons unfortunately you know yeah don't mention the name or you'll get the get this yeah I don't want to get us removed here um it's a total it's a total loss though because oh my God great Remember The Usual Suspects what what I mean whoa and great movie so um one thing I want to ask or say as well this is just kind of a general statement I have before we J into questions is that you know if your daughter's watching I want her to know that you are a great man and all the anyone who says negative stuff about you they can come talk to me because that's nonsense you you know just for you your dad is an amazing person he's going to be a historic figure potentially potentially even the history books so ignore all the nonsense that the haters would say they don't mean anything they don't even matter honestly and that's the way you deal with them is you don't let it get to you so that's all I wanted to say to her if she's watching God bless you sir God bless you for that thank you very much for saying this yeah she she she tried she she she tried so hard one time I found her crying and she was reading so I'm I said please oh my God redit of all things I mean you don't read that stuff you know but anyway yeah she she is a she's gonna be 12 soon enough but still you know she she's a sensitive get I wish she took it more from her mother but uh yeah you know she she took it from me unfortunately okay so yeah she's a great kid thank you for that God bless you sir if you have any children same goes to yours appreciate it appreciate it I don't but I appreciate that anyway I'm sure my family will be happy to know that you are able to prove this you will definitely get a prize to me it's just about truth you know let us let us reiterate neither Ashton Forbes nor Salvador P would ever suicide ourselves thank you 100% And yeah for me it's about the same name as my podcast hard truths right these are hard truths that are hard for people to accept uh but they are true and we still have to look even though we don't want to accept it we have to look so I've got a couple questions from the audience here uh if you're ready to go I don't um one of the first ones here is they want to ask you about the relationship between Pious effect and exotic vacuum objects apparently they go by a number of different variety of names are you familiar with those and can you speak that yes yes that's a very interesting uh the the whole idea of U super cavitation the whole idea of son luminescence and uh what was the name of that gentleman I remember reading some papers on him he was he he was quite a quite an engineer I shame on me for for not remembering the the the evos if they can put that in the in in the in the live that'd be great you know so you can uh but anyway um I'm not quite sure if there's similarities I think mine is a more general form of it mine is really the engineering of the Progene effect that's what it did I I think that's the best way to say it it it really deals with taking things far from equilibrium and and again the whole idea of Rapid acceleration transi and the whole idea that you don't that you don't have the the time differential of your acceleration is non zero that's very important and don't forget equation seven please do not forget equation s in the i e TPS paper that the plasma compression Fusion device it speaks to something very interesting an energy Runway that that um uh an exponential increase with time and accelerating vibrational frequency read be very careful when you look at that equation that that that says a lot of things so I hope I answered some of that um yeah I I hope I but definitely God what was his name now it really drives me crazy he he quite a character an incredible incredible mind he also went for hell uh I'll put it on the screen here for people to see for a second shame on me shame on me for for forgetting that man's name they're really God so there's the answer for that oh no problem so somebody else had another question which they wanted to ask about your thoughts on eer equals e uh what did your thought on that Einstein Rosen the Einstein Rosen Bridge equals Einstein Podolski Rosen the whole idea the quantum ENT entanglement really speaks to this bridge between these two particles but think what particles are the Super Force says that the pro proton can act as a black hole so if so why not the electron maybe the electron is also a black hole maybe all particles act as black holes and as a as a matter of fact maybe that's why we see these uh quote unquote particles not disintegrating for example the proton the Decay time is on the order of 10 to the 34 I don't know exactly the the unit of measure but even seconds would be horrendously large so so uh but most likely the proton will not Decay unless you do something again I'm am not sure exactly how the Super Force speaks speaks to for example the hix field I think for example the hix field speaks of a different scale I think the Super Force is so fundamental it exists at the plank scale It actually drives everything put it this way it is the force to rule them all yeah one force to rule them all one force to find them one force to bring them all and in the darkness find them and it's interesting they talk about Dark Energy maybe that's what the darkness refers to but anyway okay that's interesting yeah some other stuff let's see what people have well people wanted to First say that we love you back you know so everybody's a big fan of you in the chat right now just let you know they're great people people want to know what gives you hope for a better world I think that's an interesting philosophical question um what gives you hope for that world I I you know I was I I I had to turn the uh TV off in in the morning I I was I was hoping for some better news and again physics and politics should not mix so I I I am totally apolitical consider me to I'm okay but I will say this and listen carefully and I will say this in both Romanian and Russian and now I will say what I have to [Music] sayi different languages different religions yet signifying all is one one is all unless we come together we shall fall apart unification yeah that's what all these languages speak to the one truth and you know what that truth is why can't we just come together this is the only way we have a chance a unification of civilization will give us the ability ability to go to the Stars otherwise that chance will never come yeah not the way not the the path we on that's all I have to say awesome I think they also figured out who the doctor was Doctor Ken shoulders I think is the potential name think Chad had it was on top of it for you what a great oh my God remarkable yes remarkable mind as a matter of fact you know this whole idea of U the negative energy then you know the whole idea of the formation of the hall for which this thing is sucked yeah that's that's the science of someone called I God I forget he used to go by the name David froing but I believe his name was Herman Herman David froing I think David was his middle name but David Froning Dr Froning University of Adelaide I believe Australia very interesting man you have to look I think in one of my papers I actually cite him and I I I regarded him along with people like uh John brandenberg uh uh Paul Murat he he he recently passed from cancer the these were great great people these are great people some of them are still alive but I believe Dr proning and um and um and Mr mad are no longer with us uh Mr brandenberg thank goodness is still with us he's he is a good man he is a good he should be listened to tremendously his gem Theory g m gravito Electro grav electromagnetic Theory Gem Gem should be looked into absolutely it's fascinating and he also talks to the pointing Vector me he he was able to actually um um show the the the the mass of the hick particle that's huge because we really talking to the Hig field there's not that's why the whole idea of the God particle please there no suching as particles the fluctuations in fields what exists is the but anyway again digressing sorry next question you're fine no I think we're we're drying up but I have a question for you as well which is um another physicist that I've been talking to has a theory called dilation Theory and um I think that the way he would describe is that time is a fluid Symmetry and that you can essentially take gravity out of the equation and there another way to simplify the mathematics I think similar to what you do achieves the same perhaps inclusion but goes about doing it a slightly different way um and the reason why I liked his theories in general I'm just curious your thoughts on them is that you know the idea is the less Mass the faster things the faster time flows The more mass the slower time flows time is incredible it's pretty cool right time dilation time I wish I I think of time as some sort of energy field I wish I understood more for example gravity responds to time why and and it again we're talking about physical time here we're not talking about the time as we understand measured by clocks because remember clocks themselves are made out of what atoms and atoms respond to the quantum vacuum and the manipulation thereof so you have to be very careful by saying oh there's no such thing as physical time you know uh today is equal tomorrow please I don't think we really understand time what it really means yeah and since we don't understand time how can you say understand space time the unification of right yeah so so we have to be careful to to to that's why I'm saying we are only in the infancy of physics maybe two three year month old compared to what other any yes definitely not an octogenarian yeah yeah so I want to go ahead thank you here I'll let you go ahead and say you have last words I want to let you kind of say whatever you want to say can be you know anything that's to your mind I just want to say one thing and one thing I hope we have other interviews I I truly I I respect you sir I respect you 100% And I honor your your uh your investigative uh approach your research and your ability not to give up that's what it's all about no matter how much crap how much feal matter they frud you just every now and then deflect uh you know yeah smells what can you do keep on going achieve that objective and trust me Ashton if you're able to prove this wow yeah and again stating this for the audience neither Ashton Forbes nor salor would ever suicide ourselves thank you never right um I did have one last question too which I hope because you work for space force now is that is that correct uh or with them uh I since I mean uh we have people I sir to to me uh too much I don't I I can stand lies lies to me you know like this whole idea that lies layers of Lies upon lies becoming accepted truths for God's sake it's just it's just an an a total anema like like sacrilege to me so I'm not going to lie no I don't work for the space force right now I I work for the United States made got it okay but I'll leave it at that okay yeah no problem well in that case then I yeah I would just close out and say you know this was the hard truth podcast number one this is a a big one I mean I respect you more than you respect me as much as you might think that we each have our own frame of reference and perhaps it's a you know Balancing Act but you're one of my favorite people on the planet I've been talking with you offline as well um and you know I want nothing more than to vindicate you and your science that you've put out there um and you know I want you to stay strong as as well because I know that you have been getting attacked and hopefully this podcast went to some degree to you know have people take you seriously which they should absolutely anyone who I need a committee I need a committee of Highly credible highly accredited scientists Nobel Prize winners we talk about Lee Molen we talk about Seth Lloyd we talk about um Brian keading we're talking about uh even Eric Weinstein yeah I mean why not even though he's not of the so-called correct physics pedigree his idea of geometric Unity is quite interesting even though some papers uh were written against it please you know everybody should have some say but again give me a committee of Highly credible people and in one hour I promise you one hour I can prove to them that I at least know what I'm talking about at least that I'm correct and at least partially correct and if not sir I promise is never to do a podcast again never to even like publish one more paper that'd be oh no it make sure that you're successful which between you and I between you and I it's not happening anyway so it's like I'm getting I'm I'm getting so many rejections I just stopped you know like now I just go for for preprints because in my opinion it's almost as good as you know as long as the server survives and you're able to that's why I asked you please show that paper everyone you know just send it out because it's like a domino effect even if the service get shut down somebody will have that paper and somebody was say damn this crack poot wasn't such a crack poot after all but anyway so do you want to plug anything as well that was a good somebody brought that up anything you want to plug you have a Twitter do you have any place where people can find no no sir I'm I'm totally off social media oh my goodness are you kidding me and not that again that that thing of the I think between you and I having social media is conducive to that s thing that weely anyway so yeah yeah no no no no no absolutely not so um I just want to say please also go on Kurt J mongal theories of everything that was a great podcast please also go to Tim Ventura interviews also Project Unity Jay Anderson oh incredible dude and don't forget Jeremy riss alien scientist I'm in very interesting and that group people that those two dudes Jeremiah the engineer and Michael Peron he did a thing with Tim ventur on lk99 watch whoa that yeah he's a real material scientist yeah I was watching that and closely so yeah um s's going to be on the alien podcast or the alien scientist uh um stream next week so guys check that out for sure I'm sure it'll be a great followup to what we've been doing here as well I just want to thank you one more last time s I couldn't be more appreciative and we can chat for a few minutes offline here but thank you very much chat and everybody who's on here today uh everyone who's there on the podcast this was uh the very first inaugural of the hard truth podcast have a great day everybody