MH370 & DIA Papers w/ Dave Rossi

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# MH370 & DIA Papers w/ Dave Rossi it's m m m m m h37 until you do some research don't talk to me I'm going to find the truth while I sit this Mar your opinion it means to me it's m m m mm h37 not all heroes make capes I wear glasses to see I'm going to find the truth while I it this Mar the trolls hate seeing me [Music] succeed but guess what m m h37 [Music] s y m M3 7 not all heroes gles to see I'm going to find the truth your opinion to me your opinion m m h37 now Heroes glasses to see I'm going to find the welcome everybody to this special episode of hard TRS podcast this is Sunday I'm your host Ashton Forbes today I have a special guest Dave Rossy my good friend I'm bringing him on right now hello sir how are you doing this this afternoon I'm doing good brother thank you so much how are you doing great man so I'm so happy to have you on here if people are not familiar with uh brother Dave here he is a DOD contractor an engineer uh that means he uh works on uh private contract that are out there uh he has a lot of extensive knowledge about physics and electrical engineering and if you've been following the streams that I've been doing over the last uh week or two you've seen that we've gone into a lot of these defense intelligence agency papers so what I wanted to do was bring Dave on here today to go through those papers and to go through the MH370 videos today in this very special episode so Dave um first thing I wanted to ask you is are you familiar with these defense intelligence agency papers that are out there and how long have you known about them and what do you think about why they exist in general sure thank you well first off thank you so much for having me on I love the the vibe that not just you bring brother but also that your audience brings I love uh reading the chat too here and just want to say hello to everybody uh for those that have come from uh my neck of the woods thank you so much for hopping on to Ashton stream um and as it pertains to the DIA papers I am extremely familiar with them um very well versed in them and I've known about them I I had read the papers probably within three or four days of it being released on the Dia's website I think this was two to three years back maybe two two and a half years ago I think it was and um I think they're they're what these papers suggest I mean keep in mind that the papers were contracted by the DIA to essentially look I think anywhere from 20 to 50 years into the future with regards to various forms of uh propulsion communication and things like that with that said I would say that these papers are describing things that secretly have been developed and matured uh quite some time ago now without getting into a whole you know backstory and whatnot I I know that much of your audience knows this but I would say that a lot of what these Dia papers cover um both conceptually and to a large extent practically uh plus or minus a couple of areas in the engineering side were probably matured I'd say by the 50s or 60s and I know that's a bold statement to make I know that's a large claim to make but uh if we look for example at a lot of the work at sper Rand Corporation in conjunction with the Navy and General Electric going all the way back to the 1930s we know for example that the usage of Tesla's technology was in fact utilized in various forms of uh Network analyzers for the Navy um and electrical engineers were even at the time seemed to be far more prominent in being able to make some certain aspects of this work in conjunction with people like um Bondi uh DT uh Einstein um Neil's bore and so on and so forth so uh these papers are fantastic um and I think that they really represent something that is uh that connects to both your work as well as uh Mr pz's work and many others yeah so why do you think that they like the dates on the publish year are like I think they're all 2010 and I think that's when they were published I can't I don't know when they were L Declassified or unclassified do you why do you think that they were only published in 2010 if the science goes back to the 50s and 60s well I think what we're dealing with here is we have to realize that the effort from the DIA papers was part of a larger effort now what I'm about to say here can get controversial so I'm not claiming to support nor go against or attack what I'm about to the individuals involved here but if we look at this bigger apparatus of what was going on we know that those papers were contracted by the D from the DIA two Bigalow Advanced Aerospace space studies and so when we look at that scenario we see that bass at the time bass is short for Bigalow Aerospace uh was at least seeming to attempt whether for personal proprietary gain or for the betterment of humanity is not for me to say I really don't know but it seemed like there was an attempt to bring a lot of these conceptual understandings and theoretical uh uh foundations forward in ways that other groups were not and I think what we saw there essentially was that this this what these papers were uh written about discussed Concepts and topics that would have been considered highly highly sensitive and classified probably post World War II Nazi Germany and I know this because without getting into any specific names um uh for my own safety there are individuals that have since passed away but individuals that worked with the Germans both during and post World War II in an engineering sense to make these a lot of the phenomenon discussed in the DIA papers come to fruition um after in the 1950s 60s and so on and so I think what we saw with the 200920 publication of the papers um even in a classified sense was a grander picture of essentially saying this stuff is there in the classified setting and how can we bring some of it into a commercialized setting or you know some type of uh uh some type of setting in which for example you would have the Saudi Arabian Energy System underwrite a lot of what those energy principles entail and then try and bring it out in that regard now now that is my understanding and so we have to look at it as more of a 70 80 year type of big picture thing um but does that answer your question 2009 yeah I guess what I'm kind of getting at is do you think there's some element of plausible deniability where they can like if this technology were to come out they could go hey no we had these papers we told you that they were out there I mean we had all these Dia papers that say that we were working on it like do you think there's element that absolutely this is how one can play both sides against the middle again rules for the not for me so what you do is you publish a paper like what we see with the DIA then you have a handful of scientists that may or may not have contributed to the um the uh the publication and writing of those papers or authoring some of those papers we have those science certain scientists would come out and now say no well the theory is there but there's no way to practically engineer it it's impossible da d d d da but then if there is a sudden breakthrough that just so happens to favor the ones that are trying to keep control of this type of understanding of energy and technology and physics they can still then say well the theory was there so you know it it was only matter of time till we engineered it and so it can go you can play it both ways and swing it either way yeah so I think let's get to it first of all I'm wearing my shirt today MH370 didn't disappear itself now we're going to look at the MH370 videos here um and I want to uh kind of put this disclaimer out there that we're going to look at them from the perspective that they are authentic um you know we also have plausible deniability no one has told us whether or not these videos are real if they are they're probably classified vide videos um but we are going to look at them through the lens of these papers and the science that is out there that may be uh non-conventional uh so you know we are looking at them through the agreed upon laws of physics but we are potentially looking at those laws of physics through a different lens uh the lens of you know um potentially uh concepts of Tesla brought forward and then we're going to look at all those papers after and figure out how it kind of line those papers line up with what we're seeing in these videos so are you ready to take a look absolutely okay here we go let me pull up we're going to start with the satellite video and this is the highest quality version of the satellite video uh this was published later on in the summer I did a post earlier today that this version since it's higher quality Regis side and non's version's lower quality and you can't see the coordinates as well in the Regis side and non version which would indicate that Regis side andan was not the original source of these videos that they both of these sources got them from a third party that's out there which I think is really strong evidence they're real because Regis side non says they received this video March 12th 2014 only four days after the plane went missing which is practically impossible for somebody to hoax something like this now let's go ahead and play it take a look you can see the coordinates in the bottom left we can see this plane scale down accurate capabilities of a 7 s7200 we can see smoke we can see what looks like a citric session or remote terminal login and then Here Comes our first orb right out of the top side of this screen now one thing I've started to notice about this is this speed of this orb when it comes in we calculated to be somewhere around like 2,000 miles an hour yeah and what I've been calling these is a Hypersonic weapon because when I Googled Hypersonic weapons I found out that these Hypersonic weapons have a plasma sheath in front of them and supposedly that's how they get through the issue of having friction in in air um would you agree or have any comment on the idea that like PL as physics has a major component to this type of technology or the idea of this technology that we have without a shadow of a doubt absolutely I would actually say that I can say his name now because I he I know he has passed away but there was an individual I think based out of Germany that did specialized in this type of notion of uh basically plasma sheath in combination with various forms of Crystal experiments and his name was uh thorsten Von Ludwig and he he was contracted quite often by various DOD agencies and contractors to develop things like plasma sheath and and other other aspects of of this type of technology so I I would fully agree with you I mean one other thing that I I would like to mention as well is that what we're dealing with when we talk about things like you know negative energy or vacuum polarization or creating a gradients in the SpaceTime metric to develop one's own axial geodesic and so on and so forth or even using you know the strong nuclear force and resonance to to amplify these effects or direct energy weapons and so on this is all the same underlying Zer Point Energy science that tends to conflate over and overlaps into various areas so one aspect of negative energy with enough energy density applied to it could in fact enable things for example like low energy nuclear reaction called fusion and so we start crossing over into these various areas in which there have been stories in the past where individuals developing free energy devices or overunity devices meaning you know you get more out than what you put in in fact also begin to lose their weight if that you know if you know the voltage induced and the current and voltage was scaled up significantly and so we start to realize that it's almost as if nature is geometric and we know this because quite often there's a there's something that is recommended behind the scenes to individuals looking into this which is a book by John Wheeler called geometrodynamics essentially unifying geometry and Quantum electrodynamics as Sal payz is also mentioned and even what those discuss in those books is that there is this in electrical engineering we know we have the right-hand rule but we also have what has not been taught in schools a left-hand rule or what we could also call an anti-ri hand rule this is what gives rise to right angle vectors and this is also what gives rise to the notion of inducing uh orthogonality and perpendicularity within the vacuum and so in other words the least I could say is yes I agree with you fully um and the most I could say is that it conflates and in a vend diagram sense it overlaps into various areas of basically every field of science um chemistry all of it yeah it's funny because um you know I'm trying to bring it down to earth for everybody who's out there and watching but I remember the first time we spoke I had no idea what you and S were talking about you can probably tell when you look at my facial expression but now you know now you know and now it's six months later like actually the stuff you're saying actually makes sense to me now and when we're talking about like the geometries we're talking about the geometries potentially of SpaceTime itself and this doesn't mean like everything in the universe is connected but there are aspects where like this technology is a pend box where once you open it up now you realize there's all these different applications low energy nuclear reactions is one of them uh and that can be how we produce these exotic vacuum objects uh gravity manipulation um so let's go back to the videos here for a minute uh because there's an interesting thing happening in these videos which is this first orb doesn't quite lock in right away you see it spin around the plane to the left and then it locks in you see the second orb come in and the second orb locks in almost instantly and I did some timings on this and there's like about a 5sec difference between the first orb getting there and the second orb but after the second orb gets there the third orb comes in within two seconds and and connects and finishes the triangle and you can tell right here they're not creating a zero point system that's like a line they're creating like two edges of the triangle of the equilateral triangle zero point system and then the third orb comes in right away and right here when we first spoke I wasn't sure what was going on here with this orientation spin on the plan plane but now I'm pretty much certain that what they're doing here is they're trying to figure out exactly how big the singularity they're going to induce here has to be in order to Encompass the plane do you have any thoughts I do actually if I hope you don't mind I brought a pen and paper here some sketches I like to show so one of the things now that you have more of a a very fantastic understanding of this so one of the things I will say is that the orbs in Rel and some of the stuff I'm going to say here to some may seem quite far-fetched to others it may not you may find me jumping between ES postulations and known uh condensed matter physics laws and things like that but with that said the notion of the three orbs being there we talk we talked in the past I think uh late last year early this year about a fourth orb being at the place in which if there was a teleportation event the fourth orb would have to be at the place in which they would want the plane to go assuming it's a teleportation event and not an endothermic or exothermic event um with that said what really gets interesting is that we talk about this notion of completing a quadriple right which is again two dipoles overlapping each other but what's interesting is that when we notice the three orbs surround the plane we notice that the number three like Tesla always mentioned 369 is very significant but this also directly correlates to a different type of dare I say understanding of mathematics with regards to Pythagoras's Theorem the notion of two: one and the reason I bring that up is because it's almost as if the orbs themselves were trying to develop a sort of ank like uh scenario or a bifurcation uh apparatus geometrical bifurcation which is would be a fancy way of essentially saying inducing a fractal moment as even Bob Greener mentions now what's interesting is that when we look at this geometrically it's almost as if for example let's just say we had one orb on each one here say this was a positive and a positive and it's almost as if this orb the third orb was a negative orb to then bring the plane in which it's surrounded to where the fourth orb was and the fourth orb would be negative as well so now it's not a perfect X because geodesics can be perturbed and so on but essentially what we're seeing is the crossover of two different dipoles and we know that gra from an astrophysical scale it's been proposed that gravitons could be emitted even from planetary bodies even at small or large density levels U by oscillating the mass of a quadripole and so I would say very firmly that is what these orbs are doing in conjunction with much of what has been talked about in in recent from others for example I do very strongly agree excuse me with Dr Jack sarfati when he says for example uh that plasma can slow down C or the speed of light um this is something that I have not really uh I don't think elaborated as much or as clearly as he has in the past but this notion that plasma or a Bose Einstein condensate can essentially act as a so imagine The Ether right now or the quantum vacuum or empty space let's call it the ether imagine all around us we have all of these particle fluctuations moving super quickly but they're all moving at light speed so how can you snatch it it's like when you're trying to grab the handle of a door but the door keeps moving and you can't get it what plasma does and what a Bose Einstein condensate does is it essentially slows down that doorway that's always been around you but it's just been moving too fast for you to grab it and so plasma essentially slows down that doorway so you can basically grab that that door handle and open it now Translating that to practicality would be basically breaking down the symmetry of the vacuum of the local or of The Ether essentially so the idea being that you would be inducing a form of uh of negative energy so yeah and we're going to talk a lot more about that when we look at the papers here so yeah um and then just again from a high level perspective we see this that the orbs are clearly doing this mapping and then to your point about the right hand rule you can see them reorient right there which this is not an accident this is not somebody just guessing what they should look like if you were to look at the plane straight forward right here they would be spinning clockwise and if you use the right hand rule you can create your vector and your vector is going to be pointing backwards from the T from the uh where the plane's uh trajectory was and we were able to map out the direction of travel based on those coordinates we see in the bottom left Y and it shows that this plane is currently going somewhat East when we see this plane flying so if it's going backwards it's going to go over to the west and we went ahead and we pulled up uh we did like a proposed route to figure out where where that would potentially go right and what we found out here is that it goes somewhere over near the malds and more so than that here you can see that if I zoom this in let me see I'll zoom in a little bit so this plane is seen by a witness right here where we have the coordinates and then if it goes over to the West turns out there was a B7 fire suppression device that was empty that washes up in one of these islands like a week or two later and we have on this small island called cuda huaduo who I butcher in that Cuda huadu I think it's Huda huadu there was like 20 Islanders that see this plane in the early morning hours and it was discounted because the direction of travel had the plane coming from the West they thought well if it came from the East it should have come from the East so they just ignored it even though the Islanders saw steam coming out of the back of the plane right and they also saw the red and white rpe of Malaysian Airlines and they said that they saw the plane flying south and if you just scroll down what do you get if you go to the South oh there's a secret military base there that's a great spot in the middle of the Indian Ocean to uh hide an aircraft right so yeah well the one thing I wanted to mention as well too is that it's I saw some comments even earlier probably 15 20 minutes ago about people asking if the fire on the plane if if I thought it was premeditated I would say certainly because again when you this is metaphorically and literally when you bring someone or something down yourself you control the way it happens whether that is someone's Public Image when you're trying to do a damage control or whether that is literally when you're trying to bring a plane down or have a control a plane's momentum velocity and speed so that you can do what was done here um allegedly in this footage and so I would say certainly that the orbs without a shadow of a doubt induce the form of a direct energy weapon and people might say well okay where would be the where would the heat signal mates be of that event right and to that I would say well we have to understand that when we're dealing with what we call negative energy we're dealing with both a negentropic and a the an anti- thermodynamic state which essentially means that all of our Radars and detectors which are normally made to pick up heat for heat signatures will not be able to to detect the complete reverse aspect of that because what we're essentially dealing with in this case are cold currents or basically very cold uh El waves to the point in which they could actually uh freeze your finger if you touched it in the laboratory or something like that but that would be another aspect so again we are only as good as the detectors in which we make um and so I think that's also another reason why for those that may say well Dave if you think it's premeditated where's the laser beam hitting the oh there we go perfect there we go so even what that's perfectly shown okay that would be a perfect example of the direct energy weapon result where the beam itself say from you know deployed from the orb let's just say hypothetically it's shooting the orb one of the orbs is shooting a beam at the plane the beam itself would be cold but then the result of that of whatever it's uh burning up or what have you will start to show the signatures we see there so I I would say that there's certainly something there we we've seen for example even Ken shoulders uh do some work in the laboratory pertaining to a different type of electricity that was you know phenomenological that was able to cut through Stone um and and I can get the paper for you on that afterwards but yeah and so and here's I have a slightly different take on it which is that there's these batteries on board the plane and people ask were they accidental was it intentional I think if this is an operation and we see see this drone very close to the plane in the very beginning of this video uh this is set up from the beginning this is an operation right I would speculate that they if they use directed energy weapon they used it on the plane when the plane went dark initially and they ignited the batteries and then what we're seeing here is the smoke from the fire within the cargo Bays uh going through the air conditioning system and out through the air conditioning Ducks here and this is where you see this smoke Trail come right out of that location potentially just wrapping around the hall of the plane here right to produce that smoke and then we do see the cold lines in front of the orbs we actually can see it pretty clearly especially right beforehand now in this version of the video it's harder to see but these dark lines here are actually pulling these orbs forward that's that geodesic as well that we're seeing and then to your point about low energy nuclear reactions this is where Bob greener's got his video that says like I didn't make these videos and I didn't go back in time that's what he says because what we're looking at here is that Thor's hammer here uh which he says you know this is where they're changing the primitivity of free space so this video to me is the one where it's like who the hell made this and how would they have the knowledge that nobody at the time in 2014 outside of the the black world would have any idea about and this is where I would even go as far as to say that if we had detectors that were able to pick up the negative aspect of this uh of this low energy nuclear reaction angle we'd act would actually be able to see far more of a a protrusion surrounding the uh the orbs around them and so on and so forth but I'm fully with you on all of that yes 100% this this all lines up with with the different aspects of what this entails Y and then the part two here is that a lot of this goes back to Tom Bearden and I want to ask you about him in a second but when we see this event happen I mean the way it zooms out here tells me this person is expecting this to happen they zoom in we're getting the best intelligence I would speculate based on seeing this this isn't our first rodeo at this kind of thing but my guess is as well is that we're filming this to get better Intelligence on how it operates so that we can improve it in the future if I had to guess um yeah go ahead so if I could say quickly a lot of this goes right back to what Tom beon had discussed including of course the work by Nicola Tesla now one of the things I'll say that may be controversial or maybe not is that there was allegedly testing of Tesla's interferometry experiments going all the way back uh to World War I allegedly now there's some documentation providing this there are some newspaper articles and so on uh that match up with the dates of the time in relation to World War I uh but it mo more and most importantly we see that after World War II uh the likes of people such as Lieutenant Colonel Tom Bearden uh were doing their best particularly I think in their in their later years of their lives to try and devel help people develop an understanding of how this works so that people can then demand more transparency from uh their leaders and so on and so forth uh so as to be able to understand that we these things are possible um without a shadow of a doubt uh Tom Bearden was someone who I have immense admiration for and someone who really uh was decades decades ahead of his time and uh really I have much respect for him because he really went out on a limb and he he went through a lot of personal sacrifices uh just to try and essentially get the message out and this was before the era of the internet um uh I know he had done some things on the web a little bit but yeah yeah and um the Thomas beard and stuff I mean I watched like all of the videos I could find on him and when he's talking about the cold explosions I I can't think of any other time where we've seen a cold explosion an endothermic event other than this video like these videos this one particularly might be the only human record of a endothermic event that we have in the public purview that's at least of this high quality I mean we see it right there this that right there endothermic event if I could say as well for example this notion of an endothermic event uh there have been in private Laboratories experiments for example where and I think I may have brought this up before if you take because what this physics does is it dramatically increases um uh it opens up a vast amount of new types of physics in chemistry amongst many all the other Fields but say you take an acid and you take a hydroxide and you neutralize the two in a Petri dish and from that neutralization you're normally expected to get some type of um uh exothermic reaction normally you're supposed to get some type of heat but in this particular instance there is no heat after you neutralize the two substances in the petri dish right and so what that tells you is that there are some peculiar properties in that particular acid and that particular hydroxide in which it's possible the internal structures of those those um of the acidin hydroxide are enabled in such a way that they've actually implemented the open system uh or The Ether with in in conjunction with its um boundary conditions so in other words what that basically means is instead of actually observing the heat dissipate from the neutralization in the laboratory the heat itself is actually transferred in the form of other types of energy such as mass or resonance that then just sort of simmers off into the ether um in a way that normally again we would be cold and not hot yeah and Thomas Bearden talks about the scalar interferometry as well so taking your scalar transmitters and at one point I remember specifically he brings up the Ideo zero point system for your pump waves and then he goes like this in the video and then he goes like this and when he did the triangle formation that's when I went oh my goodness that's what we're looking at here kind of what you just showed in your diagram a second ago as well right it's it's the very basic visual of the notion that our models currently publicly are based on a flat space time and I would say that a lot of the diaa papers are basing it on basing those physics discussed in the papers on a semi-classical so a flat but also curve space time but they kind of they they watch the way in which they write the equation so you have to kind of go in knowing when you go into these papers what they're kind of grasping they won't explicitly state it but um basically yes it's a flat space time in which one then makes a peak in that SpaceTime now that Peak could be you know triangular it could be curved I know you know quite often we speak more about curving space time of course um but yeah that's that's that's what that is absolutely yeah these videos are very exciting and I want to give Dave credit for two concepts that he's helped out with in the past that I did not previously understand one was uh the fourth orb so the idea of like how do we determine the direction of travel and I think that I like both both you and Bob Greener have very similar approaches to it Bob Greener would say well we just turn it on and then we turn it off and that the right hand rule can still dictate the direction of travel now on yours I like your theory a little bit more because I like the idea of having a steering wheel and this is one where the orb can theoretically be anywhere but I do think that it's probably somewhere back near the malds and when I look at this technology too A lot of people look at this and they go we can't understand this and I would say yes we can understand it but it even goes a step further than that that this is not like the absolute Pinnacle of this technology like this is us just figuring it out yes we're trying to figure out how to improve it but we can potentially improve it like a ton I can imagine in the future you could have warp gates or you could have a situation where you can just send this plane anywhere you want but for now maybe we're limited to sending it somewhere else on Earth or somewhere else where we have another orb as the direction of travel and that's the part where I want people to think like this is just the beginning like this could get way crazier right right I can tell you yeah yeah very much so they it's interesting to see what's happening right now because you know I'm having conversations with many individuals and groups and committees behind the scenes that you know again they're they're kind of pulling what I call a Sean Kirk Kirkpatrick you know they're they're saying one thing in these private calls but then another thing publicly and it's uh it's it's very unfortunate because uh I do really believe that there's a way that a lot of this stuff can be developed and commercialized in a way that there's enough money for everyone to go around whether it's on the big level or the small level and um I understand the need to keep various aspects of this secret but I mean we're at a point now in which you and I discussed privately as well that it's getting very difficult to progress physics and science overall without having to reveal a lot of this and so that's why I must say that although I don't agree with him on everything I agree very strongly with Eric Weinstein when he says uh quantum physics is like a startup company that never ships a product um that was I I say arguably that's that was kind of the point people keep running in circles yeah and I want to go ahead and say people will say well why are why are they doing this why would you do this and of course only United States government could give us the official answer but yeah as somebody who probably knows more about these videos than anyone on the planet what I would say is that this is related to the 20 freescale semiconductor scientists on board This Plane it's way too many people semiconductors super conductivity see are all over this kind of Technology when you imagine these microchips and making them smaller they had just a microchip that was the size of a smaller than a dimple in a golf ball they had also had a patent for maximizing the number of dieses on a wafer or something like that which I don't even fully understand but when you look at Super conductivity especially the lk99 stuff recently you see rocks just floating freely the magnets like moving all around them and you look at this and you go that's got to be related to it do you have any comment or thoughts on that I do and uh as we talked about privately there's quite a few things that unfortunately I can't say but and I and I really apologize to the audience for that because I'm not trying to lead anybody on or anything but the semiconductor aspect is very crucial uh whether it's a superconductors or the notion of room temperature superc conductivity occurring um as you know I I firmly believe that uh I I would go as far as to say that I know and I wouldn't expect anyone to just blindly believe me but I know that for example basic uh material like aluminum or gold can actually become superconductive if uh you know certain things are done to that material now yes the procedures that would need to be done to those materials are not something that could be done at home but certainly something that with the right resources could uh enable room temperature super conductivity now the reason I bring that up is because if we think about the way in which semiconductors work which is that again they're very basic devices that both conduct electricity but also don't so they have a dialectric uh element to them but they also have insulators and barriers that stop electrical flow and charge we we have to ask ourselves well if we talk about this notion about quantum physics occurring within at the quantum scale basically at the plank level in which the smallest forms of matter exist we have to ask ourselves could it be possible that these semiconductors uh find a way to couple to this plank scale and the reason I bring that up is because if we can couple to the plank scale it may be possible then to use resonance to amplify the effects in which the coupling picks up at that plank scale and so if and We Know by the way publicly that there's very very a very very weak coupling between electromagnetism and gravity on the plank scale and so the coupling is there but the amplification is the problem and so I it's possible that a lot of these semiconductor scientists knew ways in which to amplify some of these effects whether these effects were propulsion related or healing related or what have you that I I I really I can't say um not because I know I genuinely don't know uh but because there's so many areas you can into to explore in this field I mean it it never ends biophysics the brain it keeps going so I think certainly um without a shadow of a doubt uh I am of the humble view that if there was an attempt to send a message to other countries via the an intelligence apparatus or un unofficial channels basically saying look at us this is what we have don't mess with us I really see no no better way than to do something like this yeah to me that's what this is this is a message this is a warning to people uh and when I dug into intellectual property theft the number one target are foreign Nationals that work for American companies and China steals like $600 billion dollars worth of intellectual property and if I remember John mcaffe before he passed away sorry on a Reddit AMA he had a very good description of uh terrible for us but great for the Chinese in terms of the methods and strategies used in in the ways in which Chinese University students are sent here uh to North America as you know foreign students and the way that they get into these programs or these databases is very sophisticated uh but again it's an attempt to constantly bring uh bring information back to China if there's one thing I could say from a historical perspective and I know that this is not in any official history record but it's as I understand it to be uh which is that after World War II um and after the uh the nuclear bomb was dropped Stalin had told uh basic and I think had told this story in the past Stalin had basically told and I'm paraphrasing here he gathered all of his best scientists from all the institutes across the Soviet Union so at the time you're talking about you know bellarus latva you're not just talking about Russia you're talking about all of these countries Eastern European countries and he basically said uh ladies and gentlemen to the scientists uh the first great uh re scientific uh Revolution was American but I can assure you that the next one is going to be Soviet and so what he then did was he then had all of his intelligence agencies and he also had all of his um best scientists essentially go to America and Europe load up all the literature on everything chemistry you name it uh loaded up on literally on boats like loaded up books on boats and shipped it back to to to Russia and they set up very sophisticated translation institutes and they went over the literature with a fine uh tooth uh a fine comb and they looked for anything and everything they could and that is why quite often the Soviets are attributed to having a much more better understanding maybe more back then than now of this notion of bioenergetics psycho energetics psychotronics direct energy weapons and so on and so forth um I I certainly think there's something there and I think to this day uh the Russians are some of the best nonlinear uh non-commutative non-abelian mathematicians I've ever seen personally I mean they're even far more open about their discussion on gra if you just type in you know uh Russian Publications University of Moscow or what have you on graviton uh uh generation and so on and so forth the papers are out there yeah and I actually I remember listening to Thomas be talk about that and I it would not surprise me if they were ahead of us in like the 70s and 80s maybe in the 60s and that when the fall of Soviet Union happened you know economics was the the biggest downfall for that and and so I think that's possibly where we caught up and right um like the weird letter to me mentions it feels like in the 2000s when quantum computers started getting figured out super computers that's how to me you move from like radar dishes or even satellites using interferometry to now you've got floaty orbs that can do it you know like we see in this video and I'm I'm showing these videos again this is one where it's some color changeed versions that I slowed down and put in here just to show people how much detail are in these videos you know these videos in my mind no doubt whatsoever are real far too intricate far too much science that goes into them brother if I could jump in I saw someone in the comments here say uh didn't Lazar say gravitons are nonsense and that gravity is mainly two types of waves grav a and grav B I would actually agree with all of that in the sense that uh I believe there's two types of gravity we have AC gravity alternating current gravity and then we have DC gravity so DC gravity is static and then AC gravity is essentially a fluctuation effect that we see like for example in the way that the sinusoidal wave was mapped out with by these orbs here gravitons themselves are both particles and waves simultaneously it's a nonlinear effect and they cannot be when you emit a graviton in the laboratory they do have a how can I put this they they do go faster than light and they also cannot be seen by the human eye they essentially exist in a form of hyperspace because they act as a spin to boson particle um and so you see the effects of the graviton uh but you don't actually see the the you can't at least with the naked eye you can't see the traveling wave or the traveling particle if you will um but yes great question to purposeful uh poro I think that's your username there um yeah and I wanted to show as well the uh oops that those graphs that you're showing just to show people and also this this video right here this is actually a gif right here um oh cool that actually shows the similar tracking to what we see in the Drone video as well here I'll just show actually the full video that I've got cuz to me like we we think we found the camera exactly here this is this MX uh 25 camera here and it's got the exact capabilities that we need it's got EO and IR it's got color it's got nighttime vision capabilities we found this on a YouTube channel where it was uploaded 2015 and we can actually see in the top left here this was taken July 15 2014 so these potentially would have been the exact type of cameras this is the exact kind of tracking that we see in the MH370 drone video where it's manual and we don't see the huge Heat Signature underneath This Plane consistent with what we see with the engines here now this is a much lower altitude than what what our plane is potentially at but we can then this kind of helps us to compare to that drone video to see it's got very similar capabilities um and then the pattern of the orbs uh is really inter I'm so sorry to cut you off brother if you want to keep going and then if I could just when you're done if I could reply to a couple of great question questions from your audience here yeah sure so this was from a very old Reddit post before the whole thing got banned off of Reddit in August and it was the the graphical mapping of the orbs and to me this here is like who is coming up with this you can tell this is very realistic in terms of these lines in the beginning are when they're kind of linking up to the plane and then they get into the orientation and then they have this perfect waveform pattern that you see here which is far too exact in my mind for anyone to be flying in these this is why it's not aliens or humans inside these little orbs like this is some kind of computer program or automatic homing or tracking system that they're us using and it's consistent with a three-phase 120 degree zero point electrical system which again so now you think of all the listed requirements to fake these some VFX expert that knew about where the plane was before the world knew that also knew about like Thomas Bearden and Tesla science that still consistent with electrical engineering if I could say very quickly that that other gentleman the former Marine who claimed in I think where was it uh oh jeez um what was that that country he was in in which he claimed that Indonesia in which he he saw that craft and then those private contractors got made them get on their knees was it Michael Herrera Herrera thank you uh Mr Herrera had even stated that he heard sort of like an electrical Transformer hum coming from the craft when it was close to the ground and so we noticed this reoccurrence whether it's a sine wave in in Ashton's anal analysis of the videos or whether it's this notion of an electrical hum so to speak we know there's something there with electricity that clearly has not been taught in the in schools without a shadow of a doubt yeah and I find it very unlikely and I found this old Reddit comment and the reason why this Reddit comment was interesting to me is that this Reddit comment was from early August and in early August even up till about September I was sure we were looking at an Annihilation event I I thought that wormholes weren't possible or anything like that and this was me because I knew nothing about it you know I just and then I find all these scientific papers about humanly Travers worm holes I'm like huh they are possible and I talk to you and I'm like okay now actually I do think it's a it's a teleportation warp drive type event that we're going to look into and this person some of the people in the comments were like this is exactly what you would expect it to look like here's how it would rotate here's how the right hand rule works that this might be a a literal Wormhole generator and I actually have when we look at these scientific papers in a few minutes a couple links where I think that I want to get your opinion because it seems like they're kind of explaining this type of catapult type effect that we see here which is this rubber band effect of uh you know the fourth orb and and slingshotting it over so um I just thought this was very interesting to see that because people were on it people had it figured out even way back then in terms of what we were potentially looking at um in these videos and I don't think there's ever been um any kind of hoax videos or even UFO videos that are this detailed that are this accurate to the science where real Engineers like you Salvador P shout out to him look at them and are like hey we need to talk we need to talk about some of these Concepts that are out there right well I I I I couldn't agree more and I thank you for that I I don't put myself next to s s is that incredible but um yeah 100% I I would say that when you look at all of the aspects of this there's the more time goes on the more it's there's provability behind everything we're seeing in the videos with regards to the different basically data points that come out in other areas of your investigation that you can then correlate back to very very seamlessly um if I could address a couple questions here from the the chat I'll just go through two or three there's a few that I really really appreciate um Nature's wisdom says well if chemicals can be altered to create uh exothermic reactions I think you're looking for my friend instead of endothermic is it possible to create clothing that could absorb heat perfectly in theory and in principle yes technically yes when you talk about Atomic layer deposition and you talk about you know uh you know Optical lithography and you know nanofabrication and all of that the sky the limit ultimately uh the only limitation at the end of the day comes down to you know um finances and resources in order to practically manufacture these things have a you know team of Engineers to design and so on but yes yeah um Captain James West that says planks conin is why we have wave particle duality and measurements yep um let's see uh Joe vachi says we work off the same Tech and it even unifies Consciousness with physics I would fully agree um Ray Tracer this was the question that I wanted to get to says why does gravity somehow uniquely possess attractive repulsive properties and no other wave does well this is where it gets interesting because gravity itself we could say is an emerging force uh topologically it is the birth child of when electricity and magnetism are brought together to meet very particular conditions now we know in uh electricity that there are diff we have a positive and negative polarity electrically whether that's running a current or a voltage and so on and so forth and so the question becomes is it possible to measure gravity electrically and we know for example that um it might be possible to measure gravitational phase shifts for example uh even at the astrophysical scale uh using electrical devices and we know this because uh I can one thing I will say is that Mr lupoff from the Soviet era uh wrote a paper in the Soviet Journal of physics uh which I'd happily provide Ashton with afterwards talking about how electromagnetic capacitors could act as Detectors of gravitational waves and so if we consider the possibility the same way that I know this may sound silly but in from a philosophical sense it may not the way in which if we have Divine masculine representing electric permitivity and the divine feminine representing magnetic permeability if those conditions are brought together in the same way that male and female birth a child but in the same in the laboratory if we were to have a scenario where E and M the E and B fields are vectored to zero and various conditions are met in a way that it is not vectoring to the zero that we normally think of in the standard school system it's possible that that zero that different zero becomes something else that can be measured electrically but behaves gravitationally and because it is an extension or fractal bifurcation of the initial electromagnetic induction it's going to have a polarity to it as above so below plus minus the same way that an electrical capacitor has a plus and a minus to it and the reason we we have electricity coupled with gravity in particular is because people might say Dave why electromagnetism in gravity compared to you know other aspects of of Science and physics well electromagnetism has that weak gravitational coupling to it and that's been confirmed the problem is just scaling it up or well the problem but yeah yeah that's what I've noticed on the papers that I was I was re-reviewing them again today before our um interview here and I did notice that one of the things that comes up is yes we can find a lot of these effects like we can get negative energy in the lab we can find this coupling uh that we know there's a relationship between gravity and electromagnetism we just can't make it very powerful at least in the publicly available papers but you know that's that becomes then the engineering issue is how do you find the ways to cheat the system to get your exponential growth or whatever you might need you know like when we look at the orbs when they converge Bob Greener talks about the amplification of energy and I looked up kum's law and found out yeah when the radius can you know reduces you get an exponential growth so these are the kinds of things we're looking for even when I one more thing real quick and then when I talked to Jack sarfati I asked him about superc conductivity and it seemed like there was kind of a similar relationship with superc conductivity in the equations where it allows for this like I don't know if it's necessarily exponential but this extremely powerful effect that will manipulate the equations in such a way where we can get some powerful uh you know real macroscopic effects to occur go ahead 100 I couldn't agree with you more um let me see very quickly but I shoot oh there we go that's what I wanted to mention the other aspect of this is ul's constant if you look at the ex eccentricity of ul's constant which is the fine structure constant you'll notice that there's no number in which repeats itself in that constant and the question then becomes if you can electrically couple to that constant in which the gravitational coupling seems to permit then you would be able to at with the right Threshold at the right RPM assuming we're doing an electromechanical apparatus here you would be able to essentially excuse me permit and amplify as well as absorb and detect gravitational waves so the notion being that if you had a and this is also why it becomes equally as threatening on the next level of things because the notion is that if you have a system in which there's a self- sustaining feedback from The Ether that would mean that anytime you have a situation where you can have an electromagnetic setup in the laboratory that can detect gravitational waves it's also very possible that that electromagnetic setup can emit gravitational waves therefore acting as a transducer and that also becomes equally as threatening because then it you again if you can emit gravity waves then you start messing with time and you start messing with the you could say the graviton lattice of the actual vacuum itself and the vacuum has multiple layers to it like an onion um but I just wanted to address something here uh that someone had said regarding uh gravity because because it gets it gets interesting uh let me see very quickly someone had asked about go ahead I'll be right back to you so you take the next two three minutes to let them sure sure um Edwin says uh I'll just answer some of the the comments here which I appreciate guys uh let's assume all data points to it is all real us made Tech and so on now was the plane transported into another parallel univers or world or just into another location in our current reality I without data I can't say uh Edwin my friend but I would venture to say that it was just another spatial location within this reality assuming it wasn't um an exothermic event uh assuming it was a teleportation scenario uh can being on shrooms make me see orbs that I don't everyone's different to be honest one thing I can tell you is that the patterns in Geometry seen in when someone takes mushrooms are starking similar if not identical to the patterns that are seen in superconductor crystalline structures if you were to look at it um in a very very micro scale when superconductors are in their critical State uh it it gets really interesting the correlations there um let's see here uh oh Ray says why gravity waves are special compared to other waves um oh sorry CH says do we need gravitons for this isn't gravity just time dilation uh correct yes so in other words when we talk about these longitudinal waves quite often they're we could say that they're gravitational and gravit based and this is where again this is why it's both a particle and a wave because it has to be both but neither simultaneously it with respects to the way in which the vacuum works with in a Vortex like way so if you have a vortex in which you want to you know increase to a certain extent you still need to have the potential surrounding that Vortex always be there in case you ever wanted to increase that Vortex even more and so that potential is always surrounding that vortex in and of itself and the reason I bring up the potential is because the magnetic Vector potential is what allows for the gravitons to continue to ride that Ortho um that orthogonal metric or orthonormal orthonormal tetrad metric which is tetrad means pairs of fours which is this quadripole dipole nature that is constantly stretching and expanding through the space-time uh momentum so to speak so in simple terms isn't gravity just time dilation that's one effect of it yes you could say that sorry yes because space time are space and time are interrelated right so if we have this idea of this you know gravity is the stress on the medium of SpaceTime then obviously there's going to be some stretching of of time itself as well right 100% ABS yes uh so this is where it gets interesting because it's a completely different way of looking at a lot of the stuff we already know which is that if we think of the notion of acceleration being directly related to gravity we think of this notion of rotating magnetic fields for example there comes a point in which it's it may be possible to have a rotating magnetic field with some pH photonic components to it the same way for example that laser gyroscopes were looked into but if again they were kind of scuttled away into silence because certain effects were being noticed there as well which is that it may be possible in a rotating frame of reference to have an absolute frame of reference that could slow down the speed of light and therefore affect gravity in and of itself and so when people talk about um you know gravity uh is gravity time is Gravity the you know the bending the metric itself I don't want to say what it is so much as what it isn't because at the end of the day gravity in and of itself has so many various physical and philosophical meanings to it that I'm it's not for me to say to tell everyone no everyone you have to listen to what I'm saying about what it is you know end all BL not necessarily does it affect time is it time we can have those debates all day long it gets philosophical yeah I think uh for another time if we talk I'd like to discuss time and time dilation and retro causality with you for today I want to talk about the papers and the science around it we're not going to really dig too much into the time travel aspect um and to switch gears real quick I first I want to thank the people in the super chats that put in there Chadwell thank you very much Anan big donation thank you very much appreciate you man uh Team maned yeah Team maned all the way love you I love the picture of me with them things if you could see that in that one and then Daniel thank you very much man appreciate you guys with those donations so the concepts that are going to be in my opinion interl that we're going to talk about here right in a second uh and if you want to briefly comment on them before we jump into the papers you can is uh faster than light communication um em Drive which is if you want to think of like Star Trek impulse drive because when we talk about anti-gravity we're really just talking about a repulsive force that you know cancels out gravitational force something to hover uh freely uh then warp drive which is uh really the thing that I think we're seeing in these videos is some extra manipulation that goes beyond just levitating into a situation where you can actually just instantaneous transmission so to speak uh maybe not necessarily instantaneous but um you know fast as the speed of light are faster and then the ideas of low energy nuclear reactions cold fusion uh and then straight up free energy uh my mind says that the only way all of these things can be possible and they all become possible simultaneously is the idea of an extra dimension of unlimited negative energy uh known as The Ether which is something that Tesla was a proponent of and Kusa as well which we'll dig into one of these papers yeah now the implications of this are in my mind are at least three-fold possibly more uh one people asked about the conservational momentum does what happens to the plane in this situation uh I think that the scientists like you and Bob Greener would argue that we can violate the conservation of momentum and we can potentially Set This Plane down somewhere else in a remote location um and that you know we it doesn't have to come out there my opinion just in intuition looking at it is that I think this plane is coming out of the same speed that it went in on the other side um in which case we won't have a violation of conservational momentum because we're we're warping in a space bubble in a in a wormhole and from the perspective of the uh person on the inside frame of reference of the plane it's just going to look like they're walking through a doorway there's all of a sudden on the other side plane goes through plane continues out at the same speed um thermodynamics law second law of Thermodynamics which pretty much says if I'm understanding this correctly that we can't produce overunity due to the way that heat flow hot flows the cold you can never get something to be 100% perfectly efficient uh that's where I think you would come in and say well you open up your system open up Pac-Man's mouth to The Ether to the vacuum if I could say very very quickly the conservation of momentum would be preserved in this case through what's called gauge and variance and then um the second law of thermody Dynamics would in fact be violated and we know that the second law of Thermodynamics by the way uh is literally violated constantly because when super as long as superconductors are uh staying in their critical State they are violating the second law of Thermodynamics as long as perfectly efficient yes as long as you have say for example liquid nitrogen or what what have you uh liquid helium or or whatnot the inside of a bowl in which a superconductor is then uh levitating a top say a magnet within the levitation will never stop so long as it stays in its critical state so in principle we we have already violated that second law of Thermodynamics it's just never been really addressed don't heat pumps do it as well with is that common home common home heat pumps do they have a coop or coefficient of performance of like seven or eight for example the problem is is that they've been dare I say diabolically designed in the sense that the second it gets cold out there you're back on Resistance heating because the those common home heat pumps don't have an open system within them that in other words Pacman Pac-Man's mouth is not opened and so you're 100% correct in other words the people might say what you're telling me for example that that I I I don't have to plug into the wall or you know the the heat pump in my home can can yes ultimately yes now this is what brings the situation back to is called and this is something I will say first time I've said it uh no I brought it up before but I brought it up lightly on uh the show with pz uh the source charge problem that's what it's called it's been suppressed for many decades you try and Google it I don't think you can find anything on it maybe I'm wrong about that but the source charge problem essentially had was a problem that electrod damis had many many years ago pre World War II World War I and even after the fact which was that they did not understand where energy was coming from ultimately and what they ended up realizing essentially was that either one of two things occurred and we know this because Leon Yang won the Nobel Prize in 1957 for the broken symmetry of opposite charges they were able to prove that you can break the gauge symmetry of Opp opposite charges and still stabilize it longitudinally now what's interesting is that I believe it was Lee that said we have dis at the time in 1957 after they won the prize and they were they were given the prize super quickly in a very abnormal manner almost as if they discovered something super super underneath the radar that even the official announcement did not disclose but woo had stated and I I'm paraphrasing and I quote we have missed the opportunity to interact with a local vacuum with regards to what can occur there now the source charge problem essentially deals with the notion that we don't know ultimately where energy comes from and we know that even Richard fan and John Wheeler touched upon this but what we're noticing now is that either conservation of energy needs to be completely violated which it is in my opinion it doesn't because the ether itself is an open system which implies directly that the virtual particle fluctuations from the magnetic Vector Potentials in The Ether or the vacuum directly from the plank scale give rise to the electrical charges that that we know to be all around us essentially and so this is where it becomes a little bit uh uh abnormal in terms of a linear way of thinking but it's this notion that for example there are fluctuations in the vacuum that that don't exist but can exist if certain conditions are met and will always be possible to be able to exist uh in what we call empty space essentially yeah I just say because I I think that most conventional academic physicists would disagree with you there and say that it's definitely being violated that the conservation of energy because that was the last one I was going to bring up is that yeah I think we absolutely have to rewrite the law conservation of energy and and that's to incorporate and I'm not disagreeing with anything you said I absolutely agree with this idea that it's the interaction between The Ether and our reality and that you know these virtual particles that are coming gives rise to the charge and energy that we experience within our reality all around us um but because it does offer an opportunity where you can use that as an open system to extract energy and produce energy locally that seems like it's coming from nowhere then that in my mind in most physicist minds I think would say no that you're violating the law of conservation of energy that energy cannot be created nor destroyed because we are in theory we're not creating it on nothing we're just borrowing it from The Ether itself so it depends on how you look at it right 100% this goes right back to the uh John Wheeler and Richard Fineman one electron universe theory which was that uh we live in one big fractal electron so to speak and so that the electrons we see orbiting say within a device for example are bifurcations or fractal ripples basically or branches of a larger tree or trunk of a larger electron and and that that's that is that would permit this notion of an open system to also work too because it would be self- sustaining in the sense that you have for example if you think of one slice of an onion taking energy from the next Slice Above it and then that Slice Above It taking from the next one and so on which then gives direct Credence to this notion of what Doctor James jordano and his colleagues out of DARPA and the European human brain project authored which was uh with another colleague I think Diana dullus out of loed Martin which was an oscillatory Theory Of Consciousness so not to get into that but basically we're we're seeing these connections with this notion of uh oscillations and resonance constantly okay well so that was good to kind of set the framework for what we're going to talk through here because I think we're going to I'm going to try to go through some key points on these various three papers we're not going to read through all of them but a lot of the same Concepts we just talked about are repeatedly discussed in the these three Dia defense intelligence agency papers before we get to that I just want to show people this document that was found last week I mean people have probably found it for a while it's out there since 2001 uh but it's about subject scaler waves this was from the CIA reading room here this this document essentially talks about Maxwell's equations and how scalar potentials are possible because of Maxwell's original equations before they were reduced by Oliver heavyside um some parts I thought were really interesting is down here it talks about this Symposium their conference that happened about Nicola Tesla and Tom bearden's name gets mentioned but there's all this stuff blacked out here I would kill to figure out what is being blacked out down here because seems like it's probably pretty important I don't know if it's people's names or what have you it's not names okay yeah because then it be really interesting because this talks about like how this could be useful for the R&D Community here and and I imagine that this is where like we're trying to get ahead of where the Soviets were with some of this yeah I'm guessing this document goes back to the 90s maybe even to the 80s and then it got Declassified in 2001 um but this is where it talks about exactly how what you said you can cancel out the magnetic potential or the electric potential and now you're not necessarily left with nothing and there is a very I think it's a beautiful uh analogy that Tom mon talk told me that I'm going to go ahead and share right now with this rubber band that I've got which is that classical physics would say if I pull on this rubber band on both sides equally that there's a net zero because the forces cancel each other out if I pull a little bit harder still net zero even though I'm pulling harder still Net Zero and I keep pulling still they would say it's Net Zero but if I pull this thing too hard all of a sudden it's just going to snap and why is it snapping because there's stress stress in the medium which is the rubber band itself same way if we're like when we play musical instruments can I just say very quickly after the band snaps it becomes something else okay that's you might have to expand upon that because here's my final point is that if we look at SpaceTime the same way and we take these equations and we say okay if we cancel it out there's not nothing left what are we left with we're left with the stress in the medium and what is the stress in the medium of SpaceTime gravity gravity manipulation to me this is how it makes perfect sense how Maxwell's equations shouldn't have been Rewritten the way that they were shouldn't have been reduced because this is how we're able to do all the stuff we're doing right now we're streaming we're talking to each other right now over all the stuff but we the only thing we can't figure out is how to manipulate gravity um so yeah to me this is the missing link sure if I could say very quickly I love the elastic band exper uh example by the way so if we take that same example and we stretch it to the point in which we eventually break its symmetry so now it's become asymmetric What If instead of actually the band breaking what if it when it when we expect it to break it actually ends up becoming something else entirely in which it becomes a self- sustaining rotating band basically now this is what I mean by topology this is what I meant about half an hour ago when I talked about under the right conditions electromagnetism at when the vectors are sum to zero give rise to a whole other phenomena that can be uh measured electromagnetically but is an entirely new type of energy in this case gravitational so to speak now if I could quickly address here um two uh two comments that I really appreciate which which are uh JK Philly fan says if I could get one question in on the Magneto Optical trap idea or is it just an artificial sheath with the orbs when you go back to the MH370 topic thanks uh Ashton and Dave well I'll let Ashton touch on that but very quickly uh I've said this to Ashton privately as well too I I can only put together a a generalized hypothesis of the functionality in terms of the engineering of the orbs itself I did not engineer those orbs myself so I'm not going to sit here and prot like I know the intricacies of how they work um this notion of magnetooptical trap idea I don't rule it out but I I can't say for certain in the case of that particular footage I I don't know Ashton if there's anything you wanted to jump in on that goes over my head JK Philly fan knows more about the science I do even okay got you got you um me I'm just like a theoretical physicist if if an amateur one at that so I try to understand the concepts but even the hard math like it's going to take me another year or so to really wrap my brain around it got you got you so the last another one I wanted to say here was Dave by Connor uh McKibben 73 Dave in the same way the double slit experiment Simplicity is its Fascination is there a comparable experiment for electromagnetism that alludes to the magic you speak of yes yes um give me a couple minutes to think on how I can word that electromagnetic experiment um I brought it up on a on an xace uh back in November or December with you um I'm considering bringing it up again although it it's a practical example that is it was logged it was put in the literature but it's hushed away but yeah so yeah keep that one on the back of your mind um yeah because here's the other thing too I I forgot to mention this before when I was showing the videos but when I look at this event Happening Here the way I imagine it with talking about like breaking the swinger limit uh when you look up the swinger limit talks about uh you know SpaceTime getting nonlinear is the way I look at this is like a literal rip through the fabric of reality and we're going to look at it on these papers in a second that this Wormhole the big difference between the Wormhole and a black hole is that there's no Event Horizon right that's extremely important to understand because it means that there are there is some type of relationship that's very similar of this black hole is that you are ripping through the fabric of reality here but you're not creating a gravitational force where if you were to fall into it you're going to get ripped to shreds um and I think that's going to be very important uh when we talk about this so what's happening is why is it so fast if you look at this in real time it happens in like a fraction of a second like a tenth or 20th of a second is that there's like this self-correcting mechanism that occurs where you know SpaceTime fills in the Gap right away like that's why we don't see The Ether all around us is that in order to sustain this you have to achieve these really high energy levels and that we see with these orbs pulling off right here there very specific stuff we have to do and so we see it and then immediately kind of think of like reality rushes in and closes the Gap and now all of a sudden it's it's not there anymore at least that's how I imagine it one 100% I I'm I'm totally with you there's so many different areas in which one can go down with respect to the effects of these field forces and the the the different induct the the different types of forces that they can produce for example so we're not just talking about gravitational forces we we can also talk about for example the diff the notion of uh let's see um uh an Electro gravitic Force which is we can argue a little bit different than a purely gravitational force and so on and so forth but yes I'm I'm totally with you um the the one thing I did want to bring up in in addition to that to add to what you said and to what uh Connor McKibben asked which is so Connor there are I mean I could probably there are four or five off the top of my head that are that I know of in terms of electromagnetism that uh speaks to uh similarity in terms of its amazement regarding the double slit experiment but one of them is and this is something I can mention because it is in the published literature albeit it's very uh seldom even known to my knowledge at least but there was uh a time when sax two gentlemen saxel and Woodward they found when they took a an aluminum cylinder and they put it on a scale and uh they they ensured that there was no uh noise or any significant artifacts that could that this could be attributed to but they took an aluminum cylinder put it on a scale they attached that aluminum cylinder to a certain type of electric capacitor when they charged the cylinder and then started rotating the cylinder the cylinder started to lose its own weight yeah so that speaks to this idea that there's a relationship between overunity and anti-gravity and this was talked about if you guys watch the yfiles episode about this it was great I mean our buddies were mentioned in the wi Files episode Thomas Bearden gets a shout out Salvador pz gets a shout out I that was one of the most surreal episodes I've ever watched where he's showing overunity device where the voiceover narration is is Thomas Bearden I'm going whoa this is this is just bizarre I feel like one day there will be a wi Files episode about the MH370 videos maybe they'll even clip this in there um so what I want to get uh get into here uh I'm going to pull this back up for just one second is at the end of this document it so it talks about the idea of the maxal equations but then it also says if such scalar waves exist and they will be transformed by a collective phenomenon from microscopic waves to macroscopic waves um and then it says it mentions Cooper pair electron effects as well which I thought was interesting because that brings up the idea of superc conductivity having some relationship um I don't know exactly it doesn't really go into depth there but then it says they will also behave like longitudinal waves in a plasma and grow via propagation on a nonoptical uh branch of the WK space I don't know exactly what that means um but I just thought that that that seemed like to be right on the nose because when we talk about longitudinal waves versus transverse waves supposedly I think all waves in The Ether supposedly are longitudinal I'm not sure about that I think that's what Thomas beardon said uh the so this speaks to the notion of entropy and neg entropy so what we consider transverse waves we could argue are the outfolding effects of the longitudinal waves so to speak and so that is why again we talk about this notion of Boman uh after David bom uh coherence and decoherence this notion of infolding and outfolding which speaks to a morphogenic fractal holographic reality that we may very well be living within now what's interesting about this is that you brought up Cooper Pairs and one thing that I'll leave a hint to you and your audience for which is that uh the BCS Theory Bon Cooper Schaefer Theory which is those there were three different gentlemen that won the Nobel Prize uh because they basically uh gave a a general model of understanding superconductors superc conductivity and so on and so forth there's one coincidentally there's one component they missed in terms of what the Cooper pairs or where the Cooper pairs actually stem from that doesn't necessarily seem to be addressed within their Theory and I know this because I've looked into their into their literature very extensively and at least to my best knowledge I and best efforts I couldn't find anything that addresses this and what what that that missing component essentially has to do with our uh we could say certain elements that are geometric in the composition of the superconductors that are not really mentioned I think uh I know that geometry in physics uh is not really looked at as something um super prominent in the engineering as in the engineering World although for certain projects they certainly are don't get me wrong but um I would say that we need to emphasize geometric um alignment and positioning much more um uh strongly than we currently are if we're looking to induce these type of effects it may be possible that uh you know you can do certain things with superconductors in a certain geometrical Arrangement that would induce phenomena or observable macroscopic effects that otherwise would not be able to be induced if those superconductors were say not you know geometrically positioned in a certain formation for example um we see for example as well whether it's Sal pz's patents or whether it is U other individuals in the past uh with their patents as well we see this reoccurrence of you know the uh the the squaring the circle um I know not who was it uh Graham Hancock I talked about I think the the Mayans being being being into that uh long time ago squaring the circle a triangle this notion of uh quite often we'll find in a lot of these patents uh geometric shapes very Sim similar to that of uh um you know occult groups um and so I I certainly think there's something there um and then that also unifies a for both uh physics with metaphysics if you will so that that's that's my personal take in on that so okay well I appreciate that and uh Jake thank you very much huge donation wow wants to know more about the ether just keep watching we're definitely going to talk more about it what I will say we're going to go into the paper here right now is that I think the ether solves a lot of the problems that we have related to physics out there with especially with respect to anti-gravity capabilities but what you're going to see is there is a direct relationship between between this idea of The Ether and extra Dimension and dark energy which uh can is also I think effectively equivalent to negative energy um and so we're going to talk about that that's actually definitely getting brought up in these papers so actually it'll be coming up here in the next five or 10 minutes so thank you very much Jake and let's get this bad boy going so the first paper anti-gravity for Aerospace applications and when you dig through this right in some of the the contents here we're not going to go through all of these but you know anti-gravity via Geo gra gravitomagnetic forces n negating nutonian gravity kind of goes through what the definitions are for us out there and I've already explain some of those uh the vacuum energy of Einstein's cosmological constant Dark Energy anti-gravity propulsion applications for dark and vacuum energy talks about uh zero point fluctuations so anti-gravity via Quantum Zer Point fluctuations Force I think yeah that's one of the ones we're going to talk about here and what you'll find too is the Kazmir effect comes up in all of these papers every single time which the Casmir effect uh from what I've seen is potentially a way of proving that there is a negative energy density that's out there that in the zero point fluctuations that we don't that we don't perceive uh any quick comments before we get to our first thing sure 100% I mean in with regards to this paper in relation to some of the comments that I'm seeing in in terms of people asking about you know double slit experiment all of that we have to continually look at this notion of interference as even Mr Bearden talked about this notion of interferometry or the overlapping of various uh of various energies whether that is photons or electricity or so on and so forth yeah being able to produce some certain effects that we see discussed even here right anti-gravity via gravitomagnetic forces yeah and the one thing actually is probably not going to get brought up appear so I'll say it is that I think the double slit experiments is also explained by The Ether because the speed of light is only constant because we see it in the medium that we're living in all the time which is our reality but if you rip away this reality and you go to that when we looked at that dark hole in the MH370 video what is the speed of light through the ether what if it's infinite if it's infinite now every point in space and time is connected from a causal perspective and if that's true now you can begin to understand how you could have non-local effects which are quantum entanglement Quantum tunneling quantum teleportation and then when you look at it from that perspective time is no longer linear time is now a flat circle as they would say in the uh True Detective TV show and and to your point I think that you would agree that you know you think of time more as a circle that you know each in event doesn't necessarily come one before the other and we're not going to take too much of the time aspect but I think that that's where you can now understand how you can have particle wave Duality and how there might be an answer to that and how it acts differently 100% particularly when you look at the notion of rotating um reference frames and this notion of frame dragging via gravitomagnetic forces the same way that for example you were to drag an image on a computer and const and you see sort of on older computers if you were to drag an or your mouse across you would see that leg it's very possible that that may be a very similar effect that would be seen in in the laboratory when these when these effects are induced and you hear that and you think lag did I isn't that like when I'm playing Call of Duty and I'm playing against the or playing Starcraft against the Korean kids and I've got the lag well it kind of is it kind of is because the lag is based on the speed of light so you know you could imagine this is why I think absolutely we live in a holographic universe that that is you know we are like living in some kind of Matrix that our reality is painted on because that's why we have a lag effect that's why we experience this lens theing effect which is exactly what I was going to ask you first here that was the very first thing I wanted to bring up which is how you explain the lens thring effect because the way I understood it when I read this here as well is this idea that you are just kind kind of pulling space around you uh potentially and then that's how you can kind of the basis for some of these effects these gravitational effects uh what what is your thought on how would you explain the lens thr effect to our uh you know this is where it gets interesting because the lens throwing effect directly implies for example that when you have a this type of observation occur both microscopic microscopically but even macroscopically it implies that there's some type of medium in which that frame dragging occurred within right and so which directly speaks to this notion of space and time or the metric of SpaceTime itself being that of some type of simulation or holographic principle that is ultimately com uh comprised of information matrixes or matrices for example and so when we look at these different type of information Matrix structures that naturally may be orthogonal in nature it wouldn't be all that out there or far-fetched to be able to again as uh His Highness says here create a shift in SpaceTime in which we see this Frame dragging effect occur the same way that for example uh people would see when people see craft claim to see craft shoot off they see almost the sort of lag behind it in a certain aspect right um the lens throwing effect is is without a shadow of a doubt very very significant and very important to understanding the nonlinear aspect of both taking all four polarizations of a photon in in correspondence with curving space and time electrically yeah because imagine you were looking at something that's manipulating space time it's going to look super weird bending and we can even tell like imagine just gravitational lensing when we look at a star behind a dark a black hole and you see it bend on all four sides of it so we know that there's going to be some bizarre lensing effect and actually we're going to talk in the later paper a little bit more about the lensing effect but I want to go to the next thing here right away which is toids toids at the center of all of this and so this paper here specifically mentions I think the part that I thought was interesting was how you could um what was it add the current oh I didn't make it I didn't take a lot of notes on here actually on this one um but I think the big issue here was that we can show that we can uh potentially manipulate gravity but on small scales here where you can see this G I believe going up correct me if I'm wrong on this but that the difficulty here is how you scale it up like you were saying before but really for me I think the point here is that the toroid is really this this shape that comes up all the time when it comes to plasma physics or when it comes to anti-gravity type effects it constantly shows up do you have any uh comments about the toroid in general while I look through and see if I can find the well I can I can certainly say uh one second here if I saw someone had mentioned His Highness had mentioned gravity is curvature I would say that the the curvature induces and couples to gravity much more effectively and I I I agree now that is what Mr forward is proposing here this notion that again various toroidal geometries inherently enable uh curvature because of their curval linear um what was it uh uh azimuthal angles I think that's how you pronounce it but anyways point being uh is that Mr forward essentially proposed here and I'm I'm par phrasing that I think they had said they would need a toroid um the size of like a football stadium or something like that in order to induce the effects now is right here actually right there says so yes this is the part I wanted to actually go show that there would need to be an accelerated matter with the density of a dwarf star through pipes as wide as a football field wound around the Taurus with kilometer dimensions in order to produce an anti-gravity field of g equals 10 to the 10 10 yeah yeah a very strong one like seems like it would be very difficult but I have a feeling there's going to be ways to cheat that that we yes and this is where it gets very interesting because this is what I mean when I say that again this is where the papers were towing a certain line and I think that it's also possible that these papers were published with the intent to see who may as well be interested in this type of aspect of physics and Science and to sort of get an understanding from various perspectives of other agencies as to who's who's interested in what and so on but the point being here from the science angle is that when you look at this toroidal nature of things we see again whether it's Bob greener's fractal toroidal moment or we see for example all of P's patents having to do with this notion of you know square root electric permitivity that then speaks to a uh we could say again the squaring of a circular motion or counter rotating cones and so on and so forth it's it's there's a very it may be possible that there's a shortcut without a shadow of a doubt instead of it was still using the toroidal geometry that's not to dismiss anything of what this paper is discussing conceptually but from an engineering perspective I don't think we would need something the size of a football field yeah and this is the part right here where it starts talking about spinning as well which is the lens theing effect as well like when the planet spins Earth spins there's a lens thring effect that we've been able to measure now you imagine if you speed that spinning up and you increase that lens theing effect you are kind of warping gravity your SpaceTime around the object now the reason why I thought this was really interesting is if I change my presentation for just a second to my other video here that's what's going on in the MH370 videos especially when you get to the part here where they reorient around the plane is now they're spinning so remember that comment we read on Reddit where it says you know perhaps they're when they're spinning like this this is actually a specific reason for that and Bob Greener brings this up and he says they are their own toroid each orb is and they're creating a larger tour minus one above them at a higher level which is they're creating a Taurus around the plane itself I thought that there was a relationship here to this paper because in this next part in the paper it's specifically and this is the part about the Catapult that I wanted to mention which is one can view this genre of devices as a gravity catapult machine which with the machine pushes a body away using its General relativistic anti-gravity forces to impart a change in velocity a space launcher operator on the ground wanting to send a payload into orbit would just ratchet up the strength of the upward directed anti-gravity field to some value above minus or G or 1 minus G and after pressing the release button on the payload accelerate Up and Away into orbit these devices could be placed on Earth orbit so basically what they're saying here is that you set this this toid up and then you just boom shoot something in outer space as long as the the force is greater than gravity it's just going to accelerate upward and I I I look at this and I go well this one isn't accelerating upward it's accelerating back backs consistent with the right hand rule um and so I don't know any thoughts on that because I went whoa there's my my yatsi moment right there I I would certainly say that I would encourage you to pursue that that angle that that's that's the most I could probably say there comes a point where just sometimes you know it's like oh it's so uh ins so I want us to say whatever we can say but I don't want anybody to get any knocks on the door well except for me I'm trying to get a knock in the door but I don't want you to get any knocks in the door because we need to keep you protected um so uh the next one here is the negative energy densities of The Ether so going back to what Jake was asking about the ether and what even is negative energy um and I'm probably gonna have you know ask you to kind of describe it but from what I read through here it's essentially the pressure that we have out there and that when we write our equations we think of it in terms of repulsion and attraction and so when we think of like positive and negative we're not thinking of like something that is the opposite of something else but it is kind of like that from a force perspective so that is producing a a contrary Force to what we would expect to be uh a normal uh everyday energetic uh reaction essentially have opposing unidirection directional or unilateral um uh forces yes essentially so they exhibit the same characteristics as the the particles we understand to be all around us right now and observable and interactable but ex except simply with the opposite Direction so to speak in that aspect the thing I like about it is that there's always symmetry in the universe and so it's like well what's the symmetry of our reality our reality itself seems like it's something doesn't have an opposite but what if the opposite is like that we are the painting on the canvas and the canvas is The Ether underneath it and if we rip through it now we have the exact opposite of and now you're you're going through the exact same line of thought that was gone through post World War II yes that was the same notion that again what if the answer was more geometric than numerical right that was the other aspect of this as well yep and then in the next page here so we talk about that there's negative energy has been found in nature all over one of the examples you know it talks about squeezed vacuum States uh uh static radial dependent Electric magnetic fields the Casmir effect gets mentioned here as well so for people who don't know the Casmir effect we take two plates and we put them close to one another they will compress together they create a force between them and the idea here is that the wavelength certain wavelengths can't get between those plates anymore and that this creates a negative pressure Zone where they come together negative energy um and so we know that it exists that it's out there and we know it's happen on the quantum scale go ahead right and we also know by the way with the Casmir effect we know that it is actually possible to induce an aluar warp drive with uh positive energy but negative pressure so we can we don't necessarily always need to have negative energy occurring all the time now with that said it has its benefits but in the case of aluar warp drive there is a way to also induce a scenario where it's purely uh negative pressure with positive energy and so if you can induce some of that negative pressure in a way that could uh enable a gradient within excuse me the vacuum or The Ether then you would have a Thrust a unilateral thrust just like a surfer would on a on riding a wave that's interesting and then um this idea of the cosmological uh um inflation comes up and this is where Dark Energy came from which is the Big Bang we know the universe expanded faster than the speed of light right how is that possible and this is uh where we've entered to this idea of dark energy and we think it's constantly expanding so we think that the dark energy is what's causing the universe to expand well what if the dark energy is just the relationship between the ether and our reality and if you look at it from that perspective from an extradimensional perspective now you can solve the problem of dark energy entirely and then this now opens up to the door to exactly what we're talking about with these uh very powerful anti-grav uh gravitic effects and potentially warping SpaceTime itself using the dark energy which is really just the the medium of The Ether and um like what I think we see in the MH370 videos I couldn't agree with you more brother what you're doing um is essentially you're bringing back you specifically you're bringing back essentially I would argue that we are fish living within a a vast ocean but we are still debating as to whether or not the ocean could be used as a form of power and and and you know uh harnessing that power and and so on and so forth you're helping to bring back that the realization of the ocean that was always there and so I I I I thank you for that and I couldn't I couldn't agree more with you that's a great analogy because I do think it's a matter of you're fish and a fishbowl and you don't realize you're in a fishbowl you think the Fishbowl is all there is but if moment you look outside the Fishbowl and look into it you go oh there's this whole other thing that we don't even realize is there um and that's where you know you imagine if you there's no such thing as nothing and kind of Concepts like that become prominent right um now as well in here the next one was um yeah I was just going to say I think I already mentioned this but we know negative energy exists because of the Casmir effect somewhere in here as well as it mentions that we've actually been able to produce negative energy in Labs as well so we know it's possible and it just comes down to a situation of how we scale it up to a point where we can get some of the effects that we need for something like a wormhole right right um yep now I mean the if I could say the a lot of these Dia papers the theory in the physics is not a disinformation in my opinion misinformation there may be a few things here or there that are just trying to cover for something else that's not even mentioned in the paper but um the theory is not wrong in any of these papers I think what what's missing is largely the pers the engineering perspective Ive one has to take to then apply this Theory into something that could actually work because you may find quite a handful of physicists that may not necessarily disagree with a lot of the concepts brought into these papers but the Practical engineering aspect is where a lot of them start to become very doubtful and so I think that's something we need to keep in mind uh as well yeah and Engineering stuff isn't easy either so I think just the theories can be accurate but a matter of trying to figure out how you engineer it uh gets to be somewhat difficult so then here again it's more stuff about the cosmological constant as as I described how pressure could be a source of gravity as well um and then uh the vacuum energy of Einstein's cos cosmological constant so a lot of this is bringing in what Einstein had worked on and looking at it through this other lens of how can we manipulate the Einstein equations to get these anti-gravity effects um as well as like you know what do we have to adjust anything like where are the inconsistencies that might be out there um in page 15 here it also talks about the stress on the medium as well uh and and the stress between you know the what we are talking about as The Ether here um it actually even mentions it right here it says uh the cure for this apparent energy conservation problem is the vacuum equation State given by equation 17 which is right up here and then it says um a negative pressure is something like a tension in a rubber band there you go there we go the rubber band uh analogy that we have it takes work to expand the volume rather than work to compress it the proof of this is as follows the energy created in the vacuum by increasing expanding Space by a volume element which must be supplied by the work done by the V the the vacuum pressure during the expansion of space therefore Pac equals minus Pac in other words the work done by the vacuum pressure maintains the constant vacuum energy density as the space expands therefore the vacuum acts as a reservoir of limited energy that provides as much energy as needed to inflate any region of space to Any Given size at the constant energy density when I read that I just think that's the ether you're just explaining The Ether with extra steps here like this is you know and it explains what we see in the videos too where it's like there's this relationship uh between The Ether and our reality that's constantly pulling and and and pushing to get to this equilibrium State and if you break it out of the equilibrium State it's going to try to close back up and go back to the equilibrium state like immediately and but if you can if you can engineer something in which you stabilize that disequilibrium you may start to see some very interesting effects yeah like maybe we can make a Stargate it's possib it's we have to wonder what happens when negative energy is macroscopically scaled up and some of that that symmetry of the vacuum is is uh destabilized yeah yep okay and then it talks about Dark Energy here as well which I think we can uh pretty adequately explain with the idea of The Ether and the negative energy that we see out there there seems to be a direct relationship between those two and then uh Pages 19 and 20 talk about anti-gravity via Quantum flu vacuum zero point fluctuation force and this talks about the Casmir effect uh here as well it mentions it by name right here in this paper so we kind of touched upon this already but this idea that and this goes back to like stuff like the EM drive for example that they I think Charles ber was just got a lot of lot of attention on social media last week about which is this idea that we can actually get propulsion with without propellant um utilizing this type of effect um right and that and this to me in my mind would be your basic Star Trek impulse drive like if we just want to go slow speeds like slow relativ relativistically speaking then we would use some type of effect like this but then we take the same effect and we scale it up we get to that second order effect where now we can create a literal warp bubble and just you know location the other go ahead 100% if I could say with regards to Mr berer I have nothing but respect for him and his team and the work they're doing uh particularly that he he was you know very well versed for many decades in electrostatics that what they're working on there and if I I if I could help clarify momentarily um is something that I would call electrogravitic and I'll explain why I call it that so they seem to be inducing a very similar effect to that of the Byfield Brown effect you know Thomas Townson Brown now a lot of people to play Devil's Advocate a lot of people will say well that's been disproven or it's not practically feasible because in order for it to be something that could carry people because what we're dealing with there is Ion wind and we're not dealing with a direct connection between uh electrons and gravity and and that sort of aspect and you know electricity being able to display some Mass so to speak now when the I believe it was the Navy that provided Mr Brown with a large vacuum chamber in which the results of those tests were never uh Declassified however uh there was a video of Mr Brown and his colleagues drinking champagne and celebrating indicating there was some successful result Mr Brown had written some uh handwritten notes and letters to colleagues before he passed that yes it does work in a vacuum chamber now uh this is where it gets interesting again I've conversed within many individuals who try to replicate that same effect privately in a vacuum chamber in very controlled private uh Laboratories DOD Affiliated admittedly and they said largely what happens is as expected when you put uh when you try and do this ion Thruster in a vacuum chamber obviously there's no thrust because in a vacuum there are no ions but this is what this individual told me they said with specific geometrical Arrangements we were able to get the effect to work in a vacuum chamber and so that makes you think again if you're able to have some type of geometrical structure that conforms to the V to The Ether then you it's Poss then that vacuum chamber that's placed over the whole experiment doesn't mean anything interesting and so this is how this is the this was the attempt in my humble opinion many years ago to conflate and dismiss Mr Brown's work with simply ion wind now there is a difference between the two to be clear but yeah and this paper here actually even mentions this idea that uh colog uh Kon uh proposed an experimental device that could significantly magnify the repulsive Force up to a measurable scale their proposed device is a multi-layered series of rigid chasmier cavities with each cavity consisting of two Thin metallic discs that are separated by a dialectric material which is inserted to main maintain rigid rigidity they suggest uh silicon oxide for the dialectric material because it is an efficient dialectric with low absorption over a wide range of frequencies and as inexpensive material as even e easy to fabricate into layers so right away already and it's not necessarily given us the exact answer but it is proposing this idea that we can scale up these effects to achieve something that would be measurable um and that's the part too where I I see stuff like this and I I again start to think about superc conductivity and the idea of how we can like try to cheat the equations to get effects that are going to scale up to a point where they're can not just become measurable but like actually lift a person off the ground and things like that absolutely without a doubt yep yep um now the last part on this paper skipping a little bit there's some more stuff on here as well uh we're not going to talk about the the non-retarded quantum interatomic because I don't want to get canceled just kid uh but no there's some other different ways that can be done here but the Casmir Effect one is the one I wanted to focus on the most because you see that come up time and time again on all three of these papers which seems to be the uh kind of consistent theme now in the conclusions here as well it goes through a lot of the conclusions of anti-gravity via negative energy and you'll see there's a lot of stuff on here again Casmir effect it's mentioned again as well uh but I also noticed this part about Quantum coherent effects and this part stuck out to me because a lot of what we've been talking about a lot of salvator pases papers super conductivity everything seems to come down to these Quantum coherent type effects the idea of uh Bose Einstein condensates fermion changing to bons spin going from half integer spins to full integer spins um so I just thought this was interesting says other types of quantum coherence effects not already identified or invented should be theoretically developed and explored for the possibility of finding new free field or interacting field configurations that produce significant magnitude of negative energy which could be produced by a technological means so I see that and right away I'm thinking how about some plasma orbs that can converge and break down the nonlinear or you know break down the linearity of SpaceTime itself right and it blows me away because I had never read these papers before I'm sitting out there back in October going we need quantum computers super conductivity and you know we need to understand how warp drives work and it's like well these papers were out there the whole time so definitely gets a little bit spooky when you predict something and then people are talking about it right there in front of you 100% 100% if I could say very quickly before we end up wrapping this up because yes as to your point there are a handful of different ways that have been proposed in order to induce anti-gravity or vac vacuum polarization effects uh dealing precisely with the notion of for example different um uh isotopic ratio uh separation for example you talk about uh again we talk about things like the Casmir effect we talk about things like lasers uh you know ftoc pulse lasers being shot through a a plasma um and then out on the through a toroidal coil if uh we talk about you know the gerenstein effect running a photon through a very strong static B field and having a grav T come out on the other end uh so there's more than certainly more than one way to skin this cat without a shadow of a doubt um the other thing if I could say quickly that I wanted to address with regards to the comments here is that I I notice a lot of you have questions and things like that and I want to thank Ashton for bringing my Twitter up at podcast Z or my my ex profile um my I I also do for a handful of private individuals that are not DOD related um in-person and remote Consulting on ph helix.com I notice a lot of people have that uh a lot of questions so um unfortunately I couldn't get to all your questions but um this side up says Dave so everything is infolded Into The Ether we we become aware of things only when they're outfolded from The Ether well my friend it depends on what level or layer we're speaking on because if we're talking more of a metaphysical aspect then you can argue that you are the source of what the The Ether expresses to a large extent um if we're talking about more of an engineering aspect of things um we only become aware of things when they're elf it forgive me it's hard for me to answer that question without knowing what level or quote unquote layer of this conversation you're speaking to um if you're it depends you're talking below the playing scale so we're talking philosophy at that point or are we talking more pH physicality so I will have to unfortunately leave that one there but so actually there's a little bit more so we if you want to take a note of those questions because um there's two more papers I now they're not going to have as many points as I had for the first one uh we've already talked about a lot of the same Concepts do want to go through these other ones real quick as well which on warp drive dark energy and manipulation of extra Dimensions now we've already if you've been listening for the last hour and 45 minutes you know we've addressed a lot of these Concepts but the key aspects I want to get to here here is alub berry warp drive so right away you find out that what we're talking about here is alabar warp drive here's the visual that you see that uh perfectly matches what you would see if you look up alabar warp drive um so what we're talking about here is expanding and and Contracting space either in front and behind your object um created warp bubbles if you guys look up uh was it Harold Sunny White uh the NASA scientist he experimentally showed some warping effects on straight lines that were out there um I I've watched a couple of these uh science physics influencers try to discuss his work but to me it seems pretty robust that he he shows that we can create a we real warp bubble out there um particularly when it's based off of Einstein's metric tensors when you base it off of Einstein's work it becomes difficult to refute yeah yeah and then uh the next part is so how do we make this to be possible and here again it talks about the cosmo electrical constant all this is based on Einstein's uh work that's out there um and then it'll talk here as well about what in order for us we need negative energy to make this happen so how do we get negative energy talks about the Casmir effect here again here's a good example of the plates and then it talks about Kusa clim so we need this extra spatial Dimension this idea of The Ether we're bringing back the ether because it's a cool ass name and you know I don't care people think it's metaphysical too bad because it's just it's awesome name and so that's what we're gonna use the Robertson fredman Walker time Evolution metric also has a very similar model to the Kusa Klein one so there have been propositions for this it's just again you don't really see them discuss much yeah and if you just read it it essentially says um inspired by unification physicists from the early 20th century wanted to unify gravity and electromagnetism the first attempt was by Nordstrom in 1914 who used a SC scalar potential for the gravitational field that's that's what we're the stress in the medium guys scaler potential 10 10 10 to 11 years prior to that and we had 1903 190 yeah 1903 ET Whitaker proposing the longitudinal aspect of of the Met of The Ether which is again is what this seems to build on yeah so we're going back over a hundred years then in 1919 105 years ago Kusa offered a unique approach to unifying gravity and electromagnetism which involved adding an additional spatial Dimension to general relativity and populate in this extra Dimension with two mathematical objects called Vector potential and scalar potential can I just say this there's no textbook at least in North America that ever uh calculates the uh magnitude of a potential at best they talk about potential intensity if you can have a scenario where you look at the pointing vector and the magnitude of that potential extending past that Vector you have a scenario in which you can extend the orthon orthonormal tetrads within that we could you have your left hand to your right hand rule basically occurring within the quadripolar nature of the vacuum itself so in other words this this even this model in and of itself is linking back to every other major model that has discuss this like a bondi's model a pof's model and pz's model and so on yeah and then there was an issue with Kusa that uh I think it it didn't come out from observation so then Klein came in and solv the problem from looking at it I think geometrically if I remember correctly and so that's why it's called the Kusa Klein is that that's how they kind of fix the issue to make it now consistent again with einsteinian uh physics right yep and then page 16 here so we're going to scroll down through some of this stuff because then it talks about here too the idea of dark energy is a higher dimension arct now what is it saying right there it's talking about like just think of dark energy as The Ether full of negative energy I mean that in my mind that's how I perceive this is don't just think of dark energy as this thing that's pulling St around think of it as an extra Dimension that's filled with unlimited negative energy which is exactly what we need for these effects to occur and this is where I would push back on sabrin hossenfelder who's a prominent physicist out there where she says she kind of um condescendingly replied to me saying oh you can't just add an extra dimension and I justed because no the physicist literally did just add an extra Dimension that's what we did and physicist the aof B effect shows that there's a feasibility to adding an extra Dimension that magnetic Vector potential could be treated as an extra dimensional uh form of uh I mean look at look at brain Theory B ran the Chung freeze model as well I mean it's it's yeah yeah yeah so it's not an it's not like this some Fringe thing adding this extra Dimension it's been out there for a long time right um and then on page 16 here it talks about uh let me see oh yeah this because then here starts talking about warp drive and higher dimensional manipulation which now even just looking at the image looks like what we're looking at the m370 videos of this idea of ripping open through the fabric of SpaceTime out there and it says here if one were to locally uh adjust the higher dimensional radius then the dark energy density would also change locally more specifically if one were to adjust the radius of the extra dimension in the direct vicinity of a spacecraft then the dark energy density would also change only in the vicinity of the spacecraft as would the expansion of space and when I think about that phrase I'm thinking okay expand it right around your object this is why we're mapping our plane and then we're going to expand space around it and poof that plane is going to move somewhere else uh seemingly faster than the speed of light from the outside Observer perspective um and even here when you look at this graph now this picture here is black and white so it's hard to see but there's a ring around the the spacecraft here which you'll Al often see if you look up spacecraft and warp drive this ring around them which I I think is intentional to show and then just imagine instead of a ring around our craft we don't even need it to be connected to the craft we just have orbs that float around the craft to produce that exact same gravity effect that we need right right exactly now page 19 here and then it talks about the geometry of extra Dimensions which you're better at understanding this than I am with the orthagonal which I barely understand the orthogonal thing which when I think of orthagonal I think of like a literal Matrix like if you imagine the Matrix movie and you have the four like cubes on top of cubes and then each point connecting them would be your orthogonal yeah four points that's um so for people who think that we're just making up fancy terms or what have you there is some functional thing imagine a literal Matrix in front of you and like a cube like those another another example would be also in interstellar the scene where Matthew mccon is and contct hister that in my opinion is a very eloquent visual of both the longitudinal waves and the orthogonality of the V of the Matrix or of the vacuum or The Ether Y and then here on page 19 the key to creating warp drive is to create a false vacuum minimum I.E to modify the vacuum spectrum and inject some field which creates a desitter minimum at the rear of the craft and an anti ID sitter minimum at the front of the craft what this requires is a technology that allow us to artificially manipulate the field uh content Illustrated in figure seven here so Casmir could be one one approach right interesting yeah and the desitter stuff I have to look up again as well but I understand the idea of Contracting and expanding space like the alry drive going forward 100% yeah and I'm honestly I'm impressing myself with how much I'm able to keep up with some of this because it's it's a lot but what i' say to people out there is like anyone can figure this out is once you start to understand the major Concepts and start to Google it what have you I have a lot of people ask me like how do I begin to understand this physics and this science right uh start with the basics you just like I started with just like how an electrical circuit works and uh you know read out as many of the scientific Concepts you can and then start to dig into some of these papers and then the concepts will start to make sense to you and then it's all about repetition is like just keep looking back because it makes you think if it's if if there was a possibility that some of our ancestors and their respective civilizations were able to understand this they didn't go through you know thousands of hours of uh you know uh vessel functions and trying to understand these things and but but allegedly these some of these civilizations the entire population maybe they weren't you know intricate in in understanding the uh full details but they generally understood how thing you know a unified understanding of the world so to speak and so if they were able to understand it at the time perhaps through a form of geometry more than uh numerically or a bit of both I'm certain that we can yeah yeah and this is the part where you realize we've blinded ourselves it's like we blinded one of our eyes with the Maxwell's equations where you could imagine that because science is the measure of observable reality scientific papers don't determine what's real observable reality does is that you could imagine that from an intuition perspective the other civilizations could have figured out the anti-gravity aspects of it they might not have had iPhones but they can still understand the relationship because they can uh you know find and see those properties you know even using sound potentially now page 21 here starts to talk about what the energy requirements would be for pulling this off and they go it's really really high um and this is where Jack Sara's uh clip that I posted um on Twitter where he mentions this idea well we can reduce C and if we reduce C now the mass energy requirement goes way down and then Sebastian who was also on that call with alien scientist and Jeremy says well I think we can do that with plasmoids and I went whoa we're looking at plasmoids in my videos here not mine but the MH370 videos and I'm going well maybe we can reduce energy requirement another way this paper talks about is the bubble that you make around your craft just make it really thin because the thicker it is the more energy requirement but the thinner it is like a soap bubble like something very tiny because we don't need it to be very thick we just need it to be enough to warp SpaceTime you know we're getting the same effect regardless of if the the bubble is you know hypothetically an inch thick versus a millimeter thick or a you know um very small scale thinness to it so those are one ways where we can reduce it and then if you look at Salvador P's work he mentions the idea of amplifying energy which I think we see when we look at that kum's law where we see the orbs conversion so maybe all of them are correct we also call and unfortunately s in the next few minutes brother I do have to jet but we also we also must recall when uh Sal payz said on Kur mongle show in very first public appearance in any in any capacity where he said essentially um it is not Poss the truth of the matter is it is not possible to achieve these energy densities with solids but it may be possible with plasmas very interesting yeah okay so then uh I I'll go kind of quick here because so then one thing it mentions here as well is the idea that the large haton collider might be able to detect these extra Dimensions which I think is odd because it's been running for a while and this hasn't come up so I don't know if it's being hamstrung on page 23 it mentions the idea that we could use pwat lasers here in labs around the country which I imagine only these private Labs from thirdparty defense contractors would have access to these you would need something like the department of energy Z pinch machine yeah and so that's the downside because people want know how do you create this and you go and you look here well we need something that can create an energy density of 10 to the 16 jewles per meter cubed which I imagine is a lot um especially because I believe breaking the swinger limit is like 10 to the 32 or something like that so these are going to be very powerful lasers but if we can get some very powerful lasers this is where you probably saw my clip if you're watching of the the dark energy laser this is essentially what I'm talking about is that you don't necessarily need to create a huge warp bubble even if you have a laser very focused one like this is potentially how you can create a geodesic in your path now real quick on this last paper I just want to bring up the idea of a traversible wormhole so a couple things that were brought up on this paper uh and I won't even go through it here I'll just list them off is first of all the idea of er equals epr that we bring up which is Einstein Rosen Bridge equals Einstein pki Rosen Quantum re quantum mechanics quantum entanglement are equivalent to a wormhole um it talks about that they are humanly traversible like we said there's no vet Horizon on these so you can go through it and it's going to be like going through a doorway you're not going to have any gravitational forces that would rip you apart um but The Travelers must not couple with the material that is being used to generate the curvature and if you imagine the The Philadelphia Experiment people get stuck in the walls like this might be a situation where we didn't do it right the first time um it mentions that there might not be any time dilation effect which is something we should talk about in a followup for sure because I strugg I think we like I don't know we I like our debate back and forth about what the time dilation stuff um Y and yeah and then that's that's pretty much it the last thing is that there's this teleportation physics study that's out there as well that talks about the idea of VM teleportation by Eric Davis which I think is what explains all of these things uh wormholes uh warp drive Stargates everything out there so any uh last comments on that before we wrap it up no I mean I I'm I'm very impressed with uh how how much you've learned in such a short period of time to be honest with you so I I'm I'm pretty good man you've basically covered uh everything that I didn't and vice versa so I think uh it I know it's been a great stream and I want to thank both you for inviting me on and also for everyone in the audience who's been just absolutely fantastic well thanks a lot Dave and if you want to go ahead and plug anything else that you didn't plug already I appreciate it man I appreciate your time as well for sure thank you so much so if anyone's interested uh with any questions or anything like that davef helix.com also if you go to phas helix.com as well for anyone that is interested serious inquiries pertaining to any type of uh uh remote Consulting in person Consulting so on and so forth um anyone interested in certain um uh building some of these devices albeit I will admittedly say that it it's it's uh we don't we only do it for private groups and for uh DOD Associated uh uh groups because of the um simply because of the the financial uh strain that some of these resources are required for it to be built with that said though uh there are many people as well that that uh go to the website or reach out to me as well because they're just curious about 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