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For the record, if you do not know, that is Dave Rossi. I've interviewed Dave Rossi several times. He's one of my good friends. Um, and Eric W. Davis is basically somebody that nobody can get an interview with. There is a somewhat infamous interview with him now where he was eating a salad at lunch and he seems to have gotten ambushed by Jesse Michael's crew and they interviewed him and it was it was okay. Um, but Eric, you know, so people are wondering, a lot of people are wondering, you know, what's going on here? You know, you know, this guy, uh, what I'll say is like when we watch this, people are going to go, this is like really on the nose for what we've been talking about. Truthfully, I believe that this is somewhat planned disclosure. This is a way for them to get this information out in the public avenue. They know I have a huge following. They know I'm going to promote the hell out of this stuff. They know the UFO community will as well. So, some of these types of conversations are definitely a controlled mechanism to disperse this information. That's all I'm basically going to say about it. Okay, here we go guys, right off the bat. This question comes from David Chester. Um he says that I know Eric has mentioned the work of Ford and Sper in regards to negative energy and he also likes Sakarov's view on gravity as an emergent phenomena from quantum fields. Um Ford and Sper show that in certain cases there can be negative energy densities found in certain areas. However, in Eric's view, even if we could pull this off technologically, does this actually give a realization of something like an alcubar drive with negative energy density? Um, I'll start there before I go to the next questions from uh >> Whoa, we're starting off strong right away. He says that's from David Chester who's a physicist and he's saying uh Eric Davis like Sakurov's view. Oh yeah, Sakurov's view basically that the zero point energy is the fabric of spaceime and he's saying does this open the door to negative energy therefore warp drives and wormholes? If you've been following me you know the answer is yes, >> Mr. Chester. Okay. Well, the direct short of it is yes. The answer to this question is yes. And the same would also be true for traversible wormholes and any kind of an anti-gravity implementation because anti-gravity uh is described by general relativity theory is predicted by >> Well, chat, we're one minute in and we've already got our first yeti. Uh yes, there you go. It does open the door to negative energy. It opens the door to wormholes and warps. Humanly traversible wormholes. There you go. Right off the bat. >> General 73. So um so the long of it is is that for those of you who have not are not familiar with the Ford Spader papers in the physical review D peerreview journals that are published by the American Physical Society, they were two outstanding papers. One a geometrical optics analysis and the other one a quantum field theory analysis of that geometrical optics a parabolic cylindrical mirror. Now what is that? Well, just think of a parabola, a mirror that's like a parabola, but stretch it out along the axis of the parabola. And what you have is a long parabola. And you see these in solar thermal power uh generators. And so what they do is they have these parabolic cylindrical mirrors in rows and rows and rows out on uh flat empty land. And at the focal line of that mirror instead, a parabola would have a focal point, but a a cylindrical version of a parabola called the parabolic cylindrical mirror uh would have a focal line. So along that focal line, you'll have a pipe, a thin pipe, and inside that pipe is some sort of a high heat conducting fluid. So the so the uh sun's light will be reflected off the mirror and onto the focal line to heat up that liquid and that hot liquid would then be pumped out one or the other end of the mirror and uh it would turn it probably would be heat hot enough to create steam and so it turn a steam generator to to uh produce electricity. That's how I recall it working. Um, from back in the 70s when I first studied about >> a parabolic cylindrical mirror. Okay, right here. I'm already getting freaked out. I'm already getting freaked out. And the reason why I'm getting freaked out is that, let me show you something else that I have up here. I'm thinking about nukes. I'm thinking about nukes right away because when I was reading uh Friedwart Winterberg's textbook about thermonuclear weapons, it's all about focusing your X-rays onto a single point. If you're not sure what we're talking about, we're talking about parabolic mirror. We're talking about reflecting the light. We're talking about just like this. You're watching the light beam. Can this go faster? What is this? You're watching the light beam bend around and because of its shape, it always bounces back towards the middle, right? It keeps bouncing back towards the middle because it's parabolic like this. What Eric W. Davis is saying is if you turn this into like a tube, if you turn this into a tube, it'll basically make a line. It'll produce a line. If you make a tube, a parabolic tube, and you shoot the light through it, it's going to produce a line. And this is very similar. If you go look at the shapes of the thermonuclear devices for thermonuclear detonations in terms of how they were getting fish reactions to trigger your fusion reaction, you put the fusion material right in the center there. You put the fusion material right in the center and then you focus the energy onto that point. So what Eric W. Davis is saying in this interview speaks directly to thermonuclear weapons. I don't think he's talking about in that context, but it speaks to it >> that in advance high school uh physics. So, so that's what this is. This is a parabolic cylindrical mirror, but there's but on the focal line, you don't have a pipe of anything. Instead, it's just space, the empty space. And Ford and Stader showed that, which is what we all know in quantum field theory already, a mirror will reflect quantum vacuum fluctuations. That's the quantum noise of all of the quantum fields that produce >> the mirror will reflect the quantum vacuum fluctuations. Also, I had not heard that before. So, he's saying here it's not just light. It's not just if you shoot a light beam in there, but the actual zero point energy will also have this effect happen to it. So, we can potentially manipulate the zero point energy, not just with the casemir effect. Casmir effect. We take our plates, right? And we squeeze these plates together. And this is our boundary conditions. He's saying, don't worry about the plates. Make a tube. Make a parabolic mirror like this. And then you'll get these jets shooting out. Either way, chat, I'm starting to get freaked out. I'm starting to get freaked out. Hold up. Wait for it. Kind of looks like this. I feel like where there's jets shooting out of either end. Doesn't that look like something we've seen before or sound like something we've seen before? In fact, haven't I said it feels like there might be a tube inside of these things? What if these what if this concept he's talking about is exactly what we're seeing with these orbs? What if this is why there's dark lines in front and behind? It's at a very minimum it's analogist to what we're seeing there. Could be even more than that. all of the elementary particles that we're made out of including the interaction forces of which they uh exchange when they collide with each other or glance with each other or merge or bounce off each other. So um so we have elementary particles and we have their interaction forces which are described as quantum fields and those quantum fields when you shut off all temperature all heat all energy in a region of the vacuum those fields classically should be zero because if you turn off all the energy input there should be nothing there should be no field right >> the field should be quiescent but that's not true the Heisenberg uncertainty principle in quantum mechanics dictates that nothing is zero at absolute zero right >> uh so you'll have fluctuations of the important observable quantities in each of those fields and that gives rise to what we call zero point fluctuation. Zero point refers to zero energy state of zero energy or ground state energy. The bottom minimum energy of some sort of a system whether it be the ground state electron uh orbiting an atom in an orbital shell um or it's the zero temperature vacuum state, zero photon or zero particle vacuum state where there's nothing there and the quantity that describes that state is not zero. That's a wave function. That's a probability function. what what uh what we would classically describe as zero would be >> so right there he's referencing zero point energy guys if you're not familiar he's referencing zero point energy right here he's saying well classically we would say okay well this stuff's all cancelceing out there's going to be nothing there but he says Heisenberg uncertainty principle says that there is something there and this speaks directly to the pendulum that never stops swinging and the quantum level the pendulum never stops swinging so even if we create a system where classically everything should cancel out that's not what's going to happen in real life I'm gonna fast forward this just a little bit because he rants for a few minutes here. He rants for a few minutes, but let's but then he kind of gets back into it. Here we go. >> Nonzero for quantum vacuum fluctuations. And and how many modes are there? Infinite. There's an infinite number of modes. They run from zero to infinity. So these fluctuating modes and all the quantum fields uh bounce off the mirror and they're going to be reflected onto the focal line. And that means that focal line is going to collect energy. Now the analysis these guys did was on quantum electronamics. So they're looking at the quantized electromagnetic. >> He's saying if you create this parabolic mirror, it's going to start focusing energy. It's going to start focusing energy. So we've now created a situation. We got our tube, right? We've got our tube. It's focusing energy up clawing a line along a line. And now you're going to have this energy being focused on this line potentially shooting out either side >> field. And that's light. So this is what we can engineer with mirrors is light and we have instrumentation that can measure light particles and quantum vacuum fluctuations in that term uh in terms of that. So this is what you're what you're reflecting from the mirror onto the focal line is quantum vacuum energy. Now there are angle prescriptions. In other words, how open or angularly wide the parabola is or how narrow down and small that angle of of extension and I don't remember the name of that from geometry. G I know parabas and hyper hyp hyperas very well but I don't remember the name of the angle. I'll call it the aspect angle. It's just the angle you got that point uh at the center of the parabola. Um it forms an axial line and so you'll measure the angle from that line to the surface of the parabola. So I'll call that an aspect angle. It's probably not the correct technical term. So you're going to have a dependence based on the mathematics of what angles you can use what well what angles you will measure what type of vacuum energy. So if the angle falls within a certain range of degrees um like the angle is greater than or equal a minimum number of degrees or it's less than or equal to a minimum number of degrees or it's less than uh there's a number of degrees less than the angle which is less than a number of maximum degrees. It could be an inequality like that. then then you're one of those is going to dictate that the energy density along the focal line is positive. Another range of those angles means that you'll have alternating positive and negative vacuum energy there. And then a third range of angles uh in the mathematics shows that you'll have manifestally negative energy density along that man along that focal line. And you ask, well, where's all the positive energy going to be in the fluctuations? Well, they're going to be in the space away from the focal line. So, this is perfect. This is exactly what you want. You want a concentrated line uh of finite thickness of negative vacuum energy. That's what this energy is. It's vacuum. It's in the vacuum state. >> What it sounds like to me he's saying here is that if you do this, if you create this parabolic mirror configuration, this cylindrical parabolic mirror that along the focal line, let me make this wider. along the focal line you will get negative energy density depending on how the angle that you set up of this configuration and around it you'll have positive energy so what he's saying here is that you're going to have positive energy around the focal line and a negative energy of the focal line itself that's how I interpret it >> uh then the next step is well how do we know how to shape it will Einstein's general theory of relativity his field equation tell you the properties of that that that negative energy density must have we know it has to be a vacuum energy. It doesn't tell you it's a vacuum energy. We just know that it's going to have negative energy density andor negative pressure. Uh and so it just tells you how that energy is distributed in space. And the problem is that's wonderful, but it doesn't tell you how to build it. >> So that's why we're looking at this mirror as a technique. There are other techniques for building it. The other techniques we already ha exist that we have existing in the laboratory now like the kasmir effect uh is confines the negative vacuum energy between two parallel plates that are a micron or less apart. You can't use it. That's confined that's a confined negative energy vacuum in between those two parallel plates. So that's worthless and it's too feeble. In order to increase the energy density you've got to you got to get those vacuum uh those um cavity plates uh as small as a fraction of the Compton wavelength of an electron which like 10 to the 35 meters. We can't engineer that. My god. And the casmir effect goes away below for uh 10 nanometers. It's no longer a casmir effect. So it's no longer a casemir vacuum. Uh then squeeze states of light. That's a specially prepared laser beams where you can shift the vacuum's EPF noise in one part of the laser's property to another part and you're only interested in the part that squeeze down to where it has negative. >> Okay. So this part right here, I have to I have to be honest here. I'm starting to wonder. It's not He's not saying it doesn't work. What Eric W. Davis is saying is that the Casemir effect is of course real. I mean there's no question if it's real. What he's saying is it's too weak. You can't use the Casemir effect to produce a warp drive. He's probably right actually. Now the more I think about it, he's saying that we have to find a way to amplify the negative energy. So we're not going to do that by having two plates come together. The effect is too weak. But it's not too weak for what Sunny White is doing. This is why Sunny White with Joe Rogan, what did he say? They're looking to power low energy requirement devices. Your free energy microchip is not going to create a wormhole, but your free energy microchip can power a device that doesn't require that much energy. That's why it's a different mechanism. It's it's something we're looking at it for a different purpose. Different purpose. But he also talks about squeeze states of light. Read those durs guys. If you have not read your defense intelligence reference document, get on it. Wormholes, warp drives. He talks about how to produce them. And one of them he says is squeeze states of light. Basically what you can do then, okay, if we need a big amount of energy, then let's use a laser. A laser is how you amplify energy. Okay. Well, then what's the next step? split off the negative energy portion of the laser from the positive energy portion of the laser. Much like what he talked about with his cylindrical parabolic mirror. If we can split that off and we can increase the energy of our laser, now we have a negative energy laser. That's potentially how we can create our warp drive. It's probably what they're doing with the orbs. >> But for a Ford fader mirror, it might be possible to scale that up. you might be able to intersect multiple focal lines from multiple mirrors um that are in a in an arrangement and so that could amplify the blob of intersecting uh focal lines and make >> and there he's talking about okay now we can combine our lasers combine our lasers together if we get one negative energy laser it might still be too weak but if we can combine them together now you might be able to create a much more powerful one sounds a lot like a dense plasma focus to me chat in fact that was exactly what George Miley was working on George Miley was working on how do we get our lasers to all come together and he said the problem was if you got one laser moving at this speed it's almost like you're trying to hitch a ride on a moving train. How do you get it to do that? And he said he found out a way to do it. My guess is they figured it out from geometry but I'm guessing guessing helical formation. Basically get your lasers to just start all spinning around and and sync up. But we'll see. create a large amount of negative energy. And you've got to have a huge amount of negative energy, something like uh the order of 10 to the 44 uh jewels per cubic meter >> at a second. >> So it's huge just to produce a one meter measurable curvature of space-time. >> Right? >> So that ends my answer to that question. >> Perfect. Thank you. And if I may jump in very quickly to add to this, and please correct me if I'm wrong here, but I I do believe that in theory, in principle, um for some type of gravitational repulsion effect, I believe I read this from one of uh your papers in the past. Um you don't I guess in theory need, um negative vacuum energy, you just need negative pressure. Uh you can >> yeah, negative pressure, but uh the only we don't have um I haven't seen quantum fields. You have to go this is a topic of quantum field theory, right? This is heavy duty math and heavy duty pedagogical physics, right? So um in quantum field theory, I'm not familiar with any quantum matter fields or quantum force propagating fields that have negative pressure. They you could you in a in a certain prepared quantum state um you can get negative vacuum. You can get negative energy density out of it, but you can't get negative pressure. But we have a natural form of a cosmological energy density that has posit that's positive. It's a it's a cosmological energy which has a positive energy density which we measured and it has the property that it's pressure. The pressure in the field happens to be negative. >> Right? >> So, so this is interesting. >> We've spoken about this a lot. He's basically saying that gravity is a pressure force. Gravity is a pressure force. So, a negative pressure is fundamentally equivalent to negative gravity. Quite simple. pressure, gravity, anti-pressure, opposite pressure, negative pressure, neg negative gravity >> because Einstein's general theory of relativity says that if we reduce his field equations down to the classical old posson version of Newtonian gravity, you'll have the general relativistic version. Now that that's the corrected version because remember Newton's theory of gravity it turned out to be wrong. It it turns out to be useful for low energy, low-speed non-relativistic regimes like orbital mechanics of satellites, spacecraft and planets and galaxies and whatnot. But uh there's there's uh precision errors in involved because the theory is incorrect and the to overcome the precision errors uh and and incorrect predictions of what you want to measure which is greater than the precision errors. These are significant uh predictional problems like the uh parahhelian shift in Mercury's orbit around the sun was a big issue that uh led to >> basically this right here is Eric Davis saying cosmology is fake and gay. Basically cosmology is fake and gay and we look observationally out there and it doesn't line up. Doesn't line up with our theories. It's close but if you actually go down to the precision level it doesn't work anymore. This is what I've been saying is that we can't even understand why our solar system is stable. Why did we not get why did Earth not get sucked out of our solar system due to due to Jupiter, this huge planet that's outside of us? Why does that not rip us out? Slowly but surely, it should be nudging us further and further away. There's many other examples, but that's just one that I give that's a simple one to understand. And so Eric Davis is saying here that we are missing something. We are missing something. And Sakurov's view that space is not empty. 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