The McCasland Connection: Gary Melton & Ashton Forbes

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So, I can't wait to talk about this stuff tonight because honestly, it's a somber It's a somber thing, but with respect to our past conversation, like we were months ahead of where this thing is at now. Like we had When was that? I think it was back in like February maybe even maybe even earlier. We were talking about At least 2 months ago. So, you'd already been working on it. I'm going to give you credit. Number one, you'd already been working on it. I came across the story of McCaslin. And I started looking into that. And then I saw that you had done an article on X already about it. And then of course, you know, I reached out to you. I was like, "Hey man, we got to do a podcast on this. This is right in my wheelhouse." On top of that, this is bizarre. Like generals retired generals don't just go missing. And then we started seeing a how many other people that are potentially linked to this. As you and I were talking about this, I think some of these are coincidences. We can talk a little bit about that. But the fact that, you know, during the same time we had the Nancy Guth Guthrie case going on, we also had this general that made zero sense that he was suddenly, you know, disappeared. We didn't know where he was. Um And then at the same time, we had this other case going on that got all the attention and that got zero. And of course, you know, you and I were talking about it. But honestly, I don't know anybody else that was really discussing this at all other than you and I. And I'm sure there I'm sure there's some other people out there. But I'm going to give you credit and I'm going to take a little credit, too. Yeah, and I think that and they still, you know, it still hasn't been found. You know, that was months ago. And we were talking about how this is important and how generals don't just disappear. And now it's become a full-fledged thing where people are pulling in in some cases, I think the legitimate people that disappeared or died under mysterious circumstances. And there's a common thread to them is like they're investigating or they're researching advanced technology, fusion, anti-gravity, etc. And you know, that's why you brought me on here because last time that's pretty much what I was speaking about is that there is this technology that's being suppressed. It's hard to say covered up because it's kind of hiding in plain sight if you put the pieces together. And I think we're reaching an apex, a crescendo to this story where the dam's about to break. Where AI is about to unveil it unveil this and they just can't keep it back anymore. And it starts to make me wonder about these connections to these missing people in terms of I don't think they're all necessarily connected like in terms of the big conspiracy to like wipe all these specific people out, but I could see that certain individuals, especially the general, were in positions that, you know, something mysterious might happen to him. So, I want to talk about what those ideas are. Like if your viewpoint has evolved since our last conversation in terms of what you think might have happened to him and what your opinion is on some of the other people's takes out there. And I want to start specifically with Matt Walsh's take on him, which I saw earlier today cuz he did a whole video about this. So, you got Matt Walsh making videos about I didn't even see that. So, his take, he was saying that you can make all these excuses for how General McCaslin probably just decided to kill himself or got lost and disoriented hiking because or like, you know, he decided he couldn't bear with the pain of reality anymore. And I'm just in here going, "There is no no way, man." There like part of the main problem. It's not that those things are impossible. In fact, there those are generally plausible things. But this isn't a normal scenario. This isn't a normal guy. This isn't a dude that had Alzheimer's. This isn't If you look at the circumstances of the situation, that's not what happened. He wasn't like, "Hey, wife, I'm going out for a hike." And then she came back and he never came back. He just disappeared when she was gone for like 45 minutes. That's not normal behavior. So, I get all And the reason why I want to bring this up is not necessarily just to rail on Matt Walsh, although I'm going to. But it's also because >> Hold on. I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying about Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh was basically just making excuses saying that this is probably just a coincidence. He probably did get lost. He He died or killed himself. Is that what he was saying? Is that what you're you're saying he was saying? >> Yeah, he was basically my my take on his take was that he's saying that, you know, this is all overhyped, which I think I agree to some to degree. But with respect to specifically McCaslin that you can make a several other excuses or more plausible arguments for what happened to him than something that's kind of extraordinary, right? And I'm going to go ahead and say that I think it had to have been something extraordinary. I can't come up with any other plausible reason because we didn't even find his body. Remember, we had that podcast months ago and they were searching everywhere for him. Like what Where does it he What he decided to like go into the middle of nowhere so no one could find his body? Like that makes more sense to you than like maybe our adversaries picked him up. He'd been missing a little over like a week and a half when we first So, he's been missing since February 27th, 2026. So, it was probably like the 10th or so around the 10th that you and I had that first podcast. Um and you know, we made a big deal about it. And then we had all these other folks that suddenly people started making links to all these other people that are linked to either advanced physics um advanced propulsion systems and or directly with the UAP. So, and [clears throat] and one of the things we're going to talk about tonight that I found one of the examples that we're going to talk about tonight that I found most compelling and most disturbing, quite frankly, is Amy Escherich. So, we'll talk a little bit about her and the fact that she was documenting or at least she believed And and I just want to Look, at the end of the day, other than the what we're going to tell you, folks, I don't have any evidence for this. We're going to We're going to give you some information. I'm not saying that this is what happened. 2 weeks from now, we could find out that, hey, all of this was just a big coincidence. But I will say with Amy Escherich, she was she was documenting because she was literally afraid for her life, that she was under surveillance. She told people that she was not going to kill herself. Um and understanding that Amy Escherich was specifically was specifically um uh researching anti-gravity, electrogravitics, and advanced propulsion systems. And she was doing it at What [snorts] is the name of the company that she was working for? She started her own company with her father that was a public facing company. I know everything about Amy because I know multiple people that were friends with her and I spoke into Frank who was just on like NewsNation talking about her cuz he was good friends with her. He was one of the people sharing those text messages. I spoke to like basically everyone around that situation other than her father directly. Um and and you know, even before people were even afraid to say like to before like I'm going to say a couple years ago on Amy Esridge, people didn't even know what happened to her. They just knew that she had died. And then it finally came out from her ex-boyfriend Mark Sokol through her parents that she had supposedly taken her own life with her own firearm in her front lawn. And I asked some people about it, you know, and I'll just be honest like I, you know, I'm willing to believe that she had mental things going on and you know, she did something crazy kind of like Dave Wilcox Dave Wilcox which I also have a hard time believing but if you show me a video of it like I'll believe it, right? People behind the scenes, people are in position to know tell me that she was taken out by the defense contractors. Uh you know, you can't say for one exact particular reason but if you watch the video that's been circulating about Amy for last 2 years, the one that Jeremy Reese leaked of them like talking while she's drunk, maybe high, whatever it is. And we're going to show parts of that. She yeah, she's naming names during this like she's being very specific about how they've solved physics multiple times and how they did it. She's talking about Hal Puthoff and Lou Elizondo who like I know for sure like what these guys are doing and they're they're being spooks for the government while also like doing scientific like revealing real scientific papers at the same time. So you could see why she would be the type of person they don't want talking about this kind of stuff because she's like, you know, can't really be quiet about it, you know, not doesn't have professional discretion as they say in the business. Plus she's pretty open about how she started this organization with her father to basically get anti-gravity to the world. And the part that you know, you only get on this live stream with this content is her father is Richard Esridge. I might have mentioned this on our last podcast but Richard Esridge worked for NASA Marshall Space Flight Center based out of Space Juice USA Huntsville, Alabama. And he worked on plasma fusion propulsion with John Slow. John Slow is co-founder of Helion Fusion. It's one of two fusion companies that's doing field reverse configuration. It's like a completely different type of doing fusion. Just one of two companies that were $5.5 billion. Her father her father, one of those clips that's out there, I posted earlier is her father pressured her to recreate Eugene Podkletnov's anti-gravity experiment when she was a 16-year-old in high school. It's like when you pressure your kids to like do your stuff, right? Like how are people just not putting the pieces together on this one? Like it you can't deny the context around her growing up is definitely right in the middle of black project aerospace everything including her father directly working on fusion propulsion. Well, let's do this. We got a Fox News clip just to give everybody kind of an overview of kind of what's going on with this and then we'll get into some more of the specifics and have some fun tonight. Missing [clears throat] scientist, that's a mystery. Two might be a coincidence but 11? How do you take that? Well, it does appear that there's a high possibility that something sinister is taking place here. This has been going on obviously for the last 3 years. So what what I found in 3 and 1/2 years as chairman of the House Oversight Committee is sometimes government agencies don't do a good job of sharing information on situations like this. So we've asked all those agencies, the Department of Energy, NASA, the Department of the War to all share information with us so that we can see if we can put it together and find any missing links to to try to solve what's going on here because it's very unlikely that this is a coincidence. So Congress is very concerned about this. Our committee is is making this one of our priorities now because we view this as a national security threat. I just want to put up the scientists who who died and some of them it was fairly obvious. One person was shot out front of their home but we don't know why. Michael David Hicks, 59 years old. Frank Meiwald, 61. Nina Lulua, 47. Jason Thomas, 45. Amy Esridge, 34. Carl Grillmair, 47. All died between 2023 and 2026. I mean, the oldest one there was Meiwald. He was only 61. So I don't think they're dying of natural causes. Missing scientist Monica Reyes, 60. Modesto Cacasias, 53. Anthony Chavez, 79. As David Spunt pointed out, they both work both work for the Los Alamos Lab. Steven Carr, 48 and then the Air Force Major General William McCaslin, retired 68. Now when you say something nefarious could be going on, what are you thinking? Well what's going on in Iran has to do with nuclear capabilities and and the United States not wanting Iran to have a nuclear weapon. We are the obvious leader in in nuclear technology. These people that have either died or are missing now, these were the leaders in in the research and in helping to ensure that we stay the the leader in nuclear technology. So that's why it's a concern. Every country wants to have our type of nuclear knowledge and our nuclear intellectual properties but for for whatever reason we're seeing these mysterious cases of incidents with our nuclear scientists and and it's concerning. If it were as you said three or four, you know, maybe it's a coincidence but with 11 and the way they all, you know, had had different instances of death by shooting, missing, just mysterious illnesses, this is a concern and we're taking it very seriously. Well, like you, the president wants to look into this. He's tasked the FBI with investigating. Here's what Kash Patel told Maria Bartiromo on Sunday Morning Futures. We're going to look for connections like you said on whether there are connections to classified access, access to classified information and/or foreign actors and then we will produce that information to the White House in the world because it's of such great public importance. All right. So you guys can see that that's kind of an overview. Somebody just brought it up in the comments and I will play it. Look, I'm always going to give you all aspects of anything that we're covering. Somebody just said that there was a 911 call from the wife of General McCaslin. I haven't listened to that. I just found it. We will play that in a few minutes. We want to give you guys we report, you decide. I think somebody said that before but we're going to give you all aspects of this and then give you our thoughts and feelings and opinions on uh we're going to withhold feelings. I'm not big into feelings but I only have one left and I I use that very sparingly. But anyways, we'll give you our opinion on kind of what what we think's going on, what I think's going on. I haven't asked Ashton what he thinks is going on. I have an opinion and and we'll we'll take it from there but um where do you want to go from there, Ashton? We got a lot lot of different clips down here that we can cover. We can wherever you want to go with that. Um I just need to rant for a minute. Is that okay? Rant away. Excuse [clears throat] me. Just one minute. We paid you big money to be on here for your rants. Yeah, exactly. Okay. What the hell did I just watch? Number one, yes, we will we will look at all sides but I'll you know I'm going to give my opinion and there is no chance in hell. If you are hoping that those dudes on TV and Congress and the Senate or whatever going to get you answers to this, you are living in a parallel reality. You're living in parallel reality. There is going to be absolutely no truth coming out of any of that. Yeah. And the reason I say that is because first of all, you can just tell right away that not all of these people are directly connected. I mean like what connections are they even going to come up with? What are people even expecting that they're going to find related to this? It feels like it's gotten to the point now where politicians are doing the COVID thing where it's like, well, people are hysterics so we got to do something so we're just going to pretend like we're doing something cuz you know what? This is the last part and then I'll stop. Is you know what you could do for me? You could tell me where the hell the missing general is. Do Do I really believe they have no idea where our missing general is? We've got ghost murmur technology that can hear your heartbeat from miles away rescuing our pilots in Iran behind enemy lines while these like enemies are closing in with their AKs but we can't find our missing general that worked on our secret advanced UFO plasma fusion propulsion. Come on. Let's just be real. Okay, that's it. >> with you. And on top of that, look I have been a big UFO nerd for a really long time. Literally going back to the mid-80s and following Bob Lazar which by the way, he just released a new documentary. You can go watch that. I think the visual aspects of it are very interesting to say the least. I will tell you I've I've I remember watching Bob Lazar's original interview when I was a kid I think in '89 or '90. Um and I've been following him since and he has been very consistent. I believe what he's saying. You can take that for what it's worth. I have no evidence of that. I generally think he's straight. I don't even know what Ashton feels about that. That being said, if you follow this and you follow the different pieces of it, what I will tell you for sure is that there is a ton of disinformation that's constantly putting being put out. Lou Elizondo is is well known to be a disinformation agent. Um he has put out some truth mixed with a lot of nonsense and that's what these people do. I also believe, kind of touching on what Ashton was just addressing, is that Congress doesn't know anything about this, folks. The President of the United States I don't believe that the President of the United States knows hardly anything about these programs. Um and [clears throat] and this is where things get wild because there are defense contractors and there are elements within our own government that I do think they consider this technology, if it exists, and I think it does, this is the most classified secret, like nobody else, no other country can find out what they've done with it. And [clears throat] I do think this is one of those areas where they will kill someone to or kidnap them or detain them or whatever else to make sure that it is it is not disclosed. Um and I think we've we've now just in the last couple years we're starting to see some disclosure. And I do think they're priming the American people for some information, whether it's hey, this this is earth-based technology that's advanced that we've developed and or that we've got it because it's it's extraterrestrial based. Uh I'm open to either one of those. I tend to think that it is extraterrestrial in origin, to be honest with you. And for those Christians out there, I don't believe that there's anything that's that uh you know, I don't think that there's anything that contradicts the Bible with that. I think there is nothing there's no need for reconciliation with that. There's a lot of things that the Bible doesn't talk about. I'm a Christian and I think that's I don't I don't see any sort of conflict there. But we this is one of those areas where I do think that that people will end up you can end up dead real quick. With that being said, I'll just throw out what I think and then I'd like to hear what what Ashton feels. I think that we're going to find out or potentially maybe we won't find out, but I think that this is actually potentially Russia or China um abducting some of these people, the people that are actually missing. And maybe the people that are dead were they tried to abduct them or they tried to persuade them and something went wrong. And again, I don't know out of these 11, I don't know which ones are connected or not. And maybe it's only one or two. Maybe it's the missing people only that we're we're dealing with. I don't know. But that's kind of my initial thoughts with this. But that being said, I'm open to the idea this is one of the few areas that I do think that the United States will use lethal force if they think disclosure is taking place. And I do you have some additional information when it comes to McCaslin, Ashton. Um you feel like you were talking to him on X specifically before he went missing, and I don't think that's necessarily a coincidence, either. Yeah, and that last piece, I think right after that I dug into it a little more, and I'm pretty sure it's not him. And earlier yesterday or the other day, I think I saw somebody that reached out and tried to confirm the handwriting with his wife, claiming that she said it didn't look like his, but even if it's not him, it's somebody that's familiar with him. And the fact that they went dark the same exact day that McCaslin did is still an extremely important data point on whatever is going on behind the scenes. Because I think you brought up a key point on McCaslin, which is I mean, why why I was mocking Matt Walsh is that this is what people tend to do is they they we look for a normal explanation. People would do the same thing for MH370. They'll say, but doesn't it just make more sense that the plane just crashed and the pilot just did it? Yes, in 99% of cases that would make more sense. But this is not what actually happened, right? And that's the difference here. And how do we know that? Because the McCaslin circumstances, he was the commander of the Air Force Research Labs. This was the guy. Let me explain how the technology works. This is how they cover it up. By the way, I'm going to go in another direction on your alien thing. Yeah. I'm going to go ahead and say there's no aliens. And it's not that [clears throat] I don't believe in aliens, I actually believe that aliens are out there everywhere, but I'm not going to believe there's aliens on this earth interacting with us until I've got like five forms of proof and identification that are all synchronized up at this point. Because it's too easy for them to use this as a cover-up. And the more research I've done, I've seen absolutely nothing that indicates some secret physics that humans had not figured out previously. It's just a clever use of the existing physics, kind of like the Tesla physics mixed with Einstein. So, the way they do it though is this, cuz people need to understand how they pull it off. That's the only way we're going to unravel this mystery. Is the Air Force contracts of work. They can't research anti-gravity directly since the Mansfield Amendment from 1973 literally prevented them from researching anti-gravity. So, instead, they can do scientific papers in general, but then the science basically gets handed off to the defense contractors. You would say, well, how does that transition happen? It happens because there's only so many engineers out there, and a lot of them are third-party engineers. They work for their own companies. So, Lockheed pays for them. The Air Force pays for them. Like Eric Davis, great example. Literally the guy that's whistleblowing to Anna Paulina Luna in Congress right now. Hmm, wonder what he's whistleblowing about. Anyway, this is how the information gets passed because he does a ball lightning physics study for the Air Force, and then he goes and works for Lockheed in a secret unacknowledged special access program where he applies that knowledge because the defense contractors are allowed to do it. So, now it becomes defense contractor knowledge and engineering capabilities and proprietary. So, they don't have to share it. They don't have to tell the physics world. And then, the last piece of the puzzle. How does it get used in black operations like MH370 where we're seeing these magical plasma orbs that seem alien to us spinning around the plane? Because the CIA has been working with Lockheed Martin Skunk Works since like the '60s, maybe since like World War II, maybe even before that. That's how long they've been working together, and not just on propulsion technology, on surveillance technologies as well. Which are those are CIA drones are equipped with the best surveillance beyond anything even the Air Force gets. And so you the way then that feeds is we go from the Air Force researching it to the defense contractors getting it, and then the CIA basically using the defense contractors as their toy maker, quote unquote, according to Ben Rich, who was the program manager of the Skunk Works. And so that's how they get that technology. And so, what's going to happen here? Congress, like you said, they don't know. What does Congress actually know when you look at Anna Paulina Luna, she just gets super super joy-eyed, which she's easy to look at. Let's just not lie, right? But I think all they've seen is they've seen some videos of like MH370 plasma orbs sometimes coming together, forming doing formations, and they look at that, and in their minds, like most people, they're going to say that's got to be aliens. We don't have anything like that, you know? But this is how the deception works then. Because they see all these videos and they have no context, no scientific understanding. They just go, "Oh, look at that." And then they think, okay, well, that's proof of aliens. They think it's proof of of demons. Read the Book of Enoch, right? And so this is where I say just be cautious. It's not that that's not possible, but what lens are they looking at the situation through? I'll tell you for a fact they do not have access to these project these black programs, the money tied to those programs. They're not seeing any of that. Yeah. So, they don't have the full picture. Um [clears throat] last couple things I wanted to to mention here was that you asked about you mentioned Lou Elizondo and you mentioned Bob Lazar. And I'm also going to kind of do a 180 on both of these, too, which is that I believe Bob Lazar for sure. Like he had an experience, he saw some stuff. The way that went down is exactly the way the defense contractors pull people in, using shell companies, and it's not the PhD that's the top dude that has a bunch of clout. They don't want that. They want somebody that can discredit easily, somebody that thinks outside the box, somebody that maybe doesn't know exactly what's going on. They're only going to show them a piece, right? So, it makes perfect sense they pulled Bob Lazar in, but that doesn't mean Bob Lazar has all the answers. Sure. >> Doesn't mean Bob Lazar doesn't mean that element 115 is the answer for propulsion, right? And it also doesn't mean that that's the only method, either. So, again, people need to think outside the box. Well, he even he said [clears throat] that. Like he he he said multiple times that he knows he was fed in all the documentation that he went through. >> [clears throat] >> He knows he was fed a lot of misinformation that was mixed up within that. In fact, he said his lab partner, Barry, uh told him that as well. He was like, look, kind of take all that stuff as a grain of salt. Like there's a lot of fake stuff in there. And the reason that they put some of those things in there so that if and when information gets leaked because if me and Ashton are going to work for these people, and by the way, this is done on a lot of special access programs. If Ashton and I are going to work for some people, I get a brief, Ashton gets a completely different brief. And there's certain material information in each one of these briefs that are completely different. So, that if something is leaked, they know exactly who that who leaked it. They can go back, they can look through, hey, you know what, it was Gary that got this brief that he was talking about the freaking, you know, zombie mice that actually fly the aircraft around, and you know, we've we've we've replaced their brains with plutonium or something. That that's what they do. So, I think Bob Lazar was very aware of that, but you're absolutely right. The way that he was hired, the different companies that he was contracted by through and with, and then, you know, there was there's some very very credible information there that again, you know, somebody back in the '89, '88, they wouldn't have known those things. So, I do find him credible, and you know, and he said multiple times that he thinks that a lot of the things that he's he's been fed is is is nonsense. Yeah, I think that Bob's mistake was not like researching the physics, not thinking that maybe it's already out there. Maybe people were already doing it cuz for me it was like but I had the benefit of seeing these MH370 videos and going, "Wait a minute. What the hell is that?" And then I started researching physics and realized, "Oh, it's out there. It's all out there." And it also it postdates Bob's 1990s experience. Like a lot of the physics was late '90s, early 2000s, and then beyond in my opinion. Um but if he had researched that then you'd be like, "Oh, look. You find Hal Puthoff." You're like, "Oh, this guy's CIA. Hmm, I wonder if he might be connected to this. Oh, he's got a zero point energy model." Because I know a journalist that spoke to Bob Lazar that asked about zero point energy and he thought it was [ __ ] which is funny because if you ask my opinion I would say zero It's the opposite. Zero point energy is the answer and the element 115 is the [ __ ] You don't need the element 115 thing. Uh maybe but the reason why I don't go hard on that is cuz maybe element 115 is another way to do it. Do you have any idea I don't know. We we we need a we we need a we need to do a a three-way uh conversation with Bob Lazar. I I would I would love to be on a podcast with me, you, and him. And I think that would be interesting to to kind of kind of get >> because I think he might be like a future version of me in some parallel timeline. I think it's pretty People are starting to point it out and I have to start wondering, you know, at this point I'm talking about space-time manipulation. You know, we still have to start wondering about little little time travel shenanigans possibly happening. Uh no, but I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I I >> who knows? Maybe you break the time stream. I'm not sure exactly what the rules are. But anyway, we'll find out. Um real quick though, the Lou Elizondo thing. I want to defend Lou Elizondo real quick. Because yes, he's absolutely disinformation. No question. It's just I and let's be real. I think he's probably was good at his job when he was doing the counterterrorism stuff, but he's just not good at lying on like podcasts and stuff like that. Specifically the one where I called him out, which I'm sure I got that he knew. He was on Patrick Bet-David and tried to pretend like he didn't know who Dr. Steven Greer was. Like in the UFO community. I'm going like, "Dude, come on, bro." Like that's the one person you can't pretend like you don't know who they are. Like he's basically like their adversary in the whole UFO thing because he is just trying to actually reveal the technology and he's talking about free energy. Meanwhile, they never talk about free energy and they're just talking about like aliens instead, right? Yeah. So, him trying to pretend like he doesn't know who Steven Greer was was that was an eye-opening moment. Then when you get caught by Glenn Beck uh talking about MH370, that was another moment too where it's like this is a guy that wrote a book where he's talking about a Reaper drone looking at three orbs of energy in a perfect equilateral triangle formation. And you might as well be explaining the MH370 video. And then Glenn Beck asks him about it and he >> [laughter] >> goes, "I don't know anything about I'm not a scientist. I haven't reviewed that. Uh people are telling me Some people are telling me it might be real. Some people are telling me it might be like You're just a bad He's a bad liar. It's the problem. So, but but Okay, I should >> I want to defend Let me defend you though. >> a little bit on Steven Greer because uh I do remember our conversation with Steven Greer. You feel like Steven Greer's pretty legit. Um and I've actually tried to get him on the program. I've messaged him a few places. So, Steven, if you're Dr. Greer, if you are watching right now, uh we'd love to have you on. That being said, he does believe in extraterrestrials and I think he's stated more than once that he believes that this is extraterrestrial technology. Um and I know sounds like you don't. Um I don't know. So, take that for what it's worth. >> Let me Let me be careful about what I say. First of all, I agree with Steven Greer that they're definitely in terms of how they're hiding it, the implications of the technology, in fact even the exact technology they're hiding. I agree to all that. Absolutely. Whether or not Ambassador Biju has visited us from the Andromeda galaxy, I mean that's that's pretty out there for me. Let's just be real. It's also pretty out there for me to say that we're like the plasma spirits or whatever are manifesting themselves during our CE5 experiences. To me like that's that's borderline grifty at that point. And cuz you need strong evidence for some for claims like that. And I can't connect why the same person has these two like why do both these? Like for me it's like I would never do some CE5 thing like why would I do that? Like I've got all the science and the physics and everything wrapped up here in a bow. I don't And even if I believed that even if I thought that was real I still wouldn't do it. That's what's crazy for me about it. But you know, he's right. The reality is is you can believe truth and [ __ ] in the same space, right? We all do. Like there's some things that I believe that are 100% true and there's probably some things that I believe that I'm just incorrect on. And you know, that could be one of those things. Maybe he's bought into some of the misinformation, disinformation that he's been fed because he has He does have close ties with the government. And I can tell you that if the government is going to feed someone disinformation, it's going to be someone like him. So, you know, who knows what's true. But like you said, at the end of the day, folks, uh you know, my message is the same whether we're talking about this, we're talking about Candace Owens. Like don't accept anything as truth without evidence. And I'll tell you we're not going to have a lot of evidence. >> Candace Owens in here. I knew it. We're not going to have a lot of evidence for you. These are opinions. Uh you know, uh Ashton will be able to back up some things with science. I won't. I'm just going to sit here and be like, "Yo, that sounds great." That's So, he [snorts] can convince me of just about anything when it comes to the physics on that. Doesn't mean it's true. But again, I'm just being like we're having some fun tonight. And and we're also kind of going through and talking about these people that are missing that nobody cares about. And I I find that very odd. It seems It seems like really weird that we would have a general missing, a retired general, uh who has a lot of classified information. Yeah, he retired I think in 2012. But given how far in advanced a lot of our technology is compared to places like Iran, Russia, or even China, um like he would still be a target. And the information that he has would be extremely relevant to their uh different programs. And I could see someone like that being targeted, potentially being kidnapped. And that's kind of my gut feeling on that. And that's all I got. All right. I'm going with fields and vibes right now. But I'm not going to accuse anybody of murder with those fields and vibes either. So, that's a difference. Yeah, and yeah, cuz I think it's good good to bring that up. So, the interlude is, you know, how are you guys allowed to talk about and and speculate on these conspiracies when you tell Candace Owens she can't she can't blame Eric Kirk and she can't blame TPUSA for for killing Tyler It's because we're look A, number one, evidence. Like we got the guy that did it 33 hours later. It wasn't like it was a big mystery for weeks, months, years. We we found him. And the evidence all points to him being the guy. And we're going to have a thing called a trial. A trial in America where we judge someone in a jury of our peers. How about we chill out till that happens? And it turns out that's starting to happen. First thing that happened is they proved Candace Owens wrong. Candace Owens says, "Oh, no. Tyler Robinson never was at on campus that day." And now first thing we hear is they've got a bunch of video of him on campus stalking around. And she goes, "Why If they had that stuff, why they wouldn't have released it?" Uh no, because that's how a trial works. You don't release all the evidence right away. You build a case. So, the different That's the difference. And what we're speculating on, no one knows what happened to the general. Where is his body? If he heard him If he shot himself, right? Like nothing makes sense. So, this is why there's they're not equal in terms of what we're doing here between the two things. I mean and while we're on that, one of the dumbest things I've heard is her talking about, "Oh, now cuz now she's trying to hedge." So, what she's saying now is that there's a bunch of there's a bunch of, you know, uh Tyler Robinson look-alikes running around in maroon shirts. He changed >> was going to bring that maroon shirt thing back. You knew she was going to bring that maroon shirt. She had set that up for later on. That That poor soccer kid who was like, "Oh, dude, I'm just the goalie of the soccer team." Like But I can see how people get sucked into this, you know, cuz this is the same drama of like soap operas. Where it's just it's stupid and silly, but they they love it. But the reason the look-alike theory that this whole premise is so stupid like all of her other premises, the reason it's so stupid is that because he had changed into all black clothing essentially when he was the actual shooter. If you're trying to obfuscate or confuse people about the shooter, they're going to be dressed in all black like he was. Not where he came and kind of scoped, you know, did some pre-attack surveillances, which is exactly what he did. He was confirming the target value and he was confirming the vulnerabilities still existed. That's pre-attack surveillance, folks. That's what he was doing when he was walking around in the maroon shirt. He was going to look to see if everything was there. We now have evidence that he was actually in the courtyard. He was in the courtyard. He knew where the tent was. All of those things. So, if you haven't read the latest uh the the search warrants and other documents that come out. But the my point is is she keeps pointing to the maroon shirts. If I was going to worry about trying to confuse people of who was the shooter and who was not, it would be whatever he's wearing when he's the actual shooter. But anyways, I digress. Go ahead. Yeah, and I think it's just like we want to be spending our energy on things that are worthwhile. Like even if it was a cover-up, it's like they got Okay, guys, they got away with this one. Like the evidence is just too overwhelming. Like how can you seriously tie your wagon to this at this point? And this is what I tried to tell people and warn people before is like don't get caught in these things, these low I I call them low IQ conspiracies, which is like there's just there's no reason even, you know, die on that hill. There's much things that you can tie your wagon to that can get you to your ultimate goal. If your goal is exposing XYZ, you know, then then that. And so >> when you've made 30 to 60 million dollars off of this, there's there's some reasons to tie your wagon to it. That's the problem. >> it's all about money for her though. Like I've been trying to understand her motivations, but I The thing is like and I met her. I've been in her place. Uh you know, one of those properties that Laura Loomer is like exposing I've been to. I took a photo there. And the thing about it is like I think it's partially just sometimes people fall too far down the rabbit hole. And I think this speaks to the missing scientist and some especially some of these people who have committed self-harm. Yeah. Is that in some cases like where is the bottom? And I'll tie this back to the alien thing. For me, I'm just drawing the line at aliens. I actually believe aliens are real. I think that every single possible kind of alien that could exist exists out there somewhere in the universe. But I'm just drawing the line on the alien thing because I don't have any evidence of it. I'm going to just for the same reasons why I'm not doing the the Tyler Robinson thing. Like where's the evidence of the aliens? And sorry experience there's I love you experiences. Respect to you. But experiences experiences aren't evidence. Not not scientific evidence. So the reality is until you show me some damn aliens, I'm not going to go with the aliens. You You haven't You haven't seen the autopsy videos? The only one I even think is decent is that Victor one with a weird alien where it's like the guy is like having like a medical episode. It just bugs me out when I look at it. That's the only one I've ever seen in my whole life other than the next best is the movie Signs. When the alien walks by in that party that that [ __ ] that could be real. I would look at that and be like uh I don't know. Creeps me out, man. All right. Now So back to >> to the uh Yeah. missing scientist. So first of all, Lou Elizondo, I want to say something nice about him. I kind of [ __ ] on him. I said I'd say something nice. Okay. >> Number one, I think he's some of these guys they they're trying to their heart's in the right place. I think Lou Elizondo's heart's in the right place. And he's just kind of a boomer. And he's just not very good at like social media or like marketing or these things. And he needs to make money because he's transitioned this into being his like career. Right? It's like he wants to be like a high credibility whistleblower guy. You know, and he wants to be able to do the speaking tours and what have you and that's going to be his career. Right? That's what he's trying to do. The reality is you can't pull that off while basically having like one hand behind your back while you're just not revealing everything. Right? If you're going to go do the whole Edward Snowden, you got to go all the way. If you're going to be a whistleblower, if you're going to be somebody who says I have the inside information, you got to actually say it. And the reality is Lou Elizondo's hiding information. Like I know that from his response about MH370 because he does know about the science. He knows what we're hiding in terms of the technology. And he knows he can't talk about it because of his agreement with the United States government, his NDAs, like all the rest of that. So if you're not willing to to really take the real sacrifice, which is break that NDA and say what you really know, then you're just simply not going to be successful at what he's trying to do in that venture. Well, the thing that I have researched this and I know this to be true. One thing that I do know about Lou Elizondo is he has a whole gambit of followers that intentionally go out and try to discredit other people that I think are also sincere. So there are some there are some disinformation operations taking place in and around Lou Elizondo that makes me much more suspicious of him. Um Anyways, I'll leave that there. So Yeah, and Steven Greer is the other thing too about him. Um Don't I wouldn't be surprised Everybody has skeletons in the closet is what I find. This is why I try not to tie my wagon to anybody anymore. It's like you never know. Even if they agree with you on everything, they might turn out to be a weirdo. They might have some other stuff going on. It's like you don't you just never want to get too tied to anybody. So look at it like this. The best way to take it is just look at the information independent of who's telling it to you and trust but verify. Right? Like oh, okay, here's some information. Let me see if that's legit. Let me go confirm this information. And come to your own conclusion. That's the only way to get through this. Now let's go back to the general because now let's look back at the general situation. To me, the more I think about this, there's only three real reasonable things that could have happened here. And I they're all pretty hard to believe, but here we go. Number one, like you said, adversary picked him up. This is a high profile guy. High This guy would be way up on the target list for adversaries to either take out or to steal. Yep. So to me, that's one of the big possibilities. The issue with this is there's no forced entry in his house. So they came at the right time if that's the case, right after his wife leaves. But no forced entry, they get him to leave his phone behind so there's no way to track him. And then they also found a sweater that was like a mile away. So what did they like let him throw a sweater out so there was like a trail to follow? It just doesn't really feel like it was an abduction. Could have been. But it doesn't really feel that way. Also, I have a hard time believing that our CIA wouldn't be tracking like a a Russian abduction crew in our own country. Like that's going to be >> They may be and we wouldn't hear about it. That's the thing. Like they may know exactly that he Let me Let me kind of push back on that a little bit and here's why I think that it is an abduction because of those things. Again, >> [clears throat] >> if if you're a state-sponsored element that is tasked to abduct a scientist or abduct an American citizen, right? Um look, you're going to use sophisticated surveillance methods. And it doesn't even have to be that sophisticated. They could be watching his house for a long time. They learn the patterns of life. They know when they come and go. They know if they lock their door or not. But I mean honestly, they can come go up to this wait for his wife to leave. They go up, knock on his door. He answers it. He opens the door. Then they could pull out a gun and be like, "Hey, look, you're coming with us." What's he going to do? What's he going to do? Like no, you're not taking your wallet or anything else. And I I don't know what the deal is with the sweater. That could be something else completely. But I think contrary to what you're saying, I think that everything does point to a an abduction of some sort. Um I don't know why he would leave without his wallet, why he would leave without X Y and Z. And you know, and I know so allegedly he has a gun. Um a gun was missing. That doesn't mean [ __ ] to me. They could have known that he has a gun and they could have went and found the gun. Um who knows what happens with that. But to me, it feels more like an abduction. And sorry to cut you off and sorry to disagree with you, but that's just that's where I'm at on this and that's why >> view. Yeah, so you know, it could be that and it could be that what if he, you know, left with them under his own free will? You know, you could always say he's a What if he's a traitor basically? It would be like the traitor scenario. And you can look at the traitor scenario two different ways in my opinion. So this was my second scenario, which is either he went with them of his own free will wherever he went. Yep. Uh or he got brought in because he was leaking information or he was saying information to our adversaries. And in that scenario, they're going to take him away quietly. They're not going to He's not going to get picked up by the boys in blue. They're not going to cuz they're afraid that he'll leak more information to the media. So if he's brought in brought in because they're afraid he's leaking top secret classified information either on social media hint hint hint hint or you know, to Russia, China, whatever, then they're going to just scoop him up quietly and be like, "Here, you come with us right now. Leave your phone behind." And then he's in a black site somewhere or whatever. I don't You tell me on that part. That's the part where I don't know where you take him, but >> go ahead. And the other thing he could be doing, forget about social media, they could have found out that he was talking to a reporter or trying to disclose other information to not even necessarily foreign entities, but even within our own press. So you you know, I I think both of those are equal equally possible and probably plausible. I still think those are more more plausible than he just went off to off himself somewhere. Um And we haven't found his body four months later or whatever it is. Like Yeah, and so Yeah, and so that The reason why I'm starting to like the idea that we picked him up is cuz it explains where where where is he? Like where actually is he? Let's just be honest for a second. This is what I say about the MH370 video. It's like who made the videos? Like we have to go back to the basic where is General McCaslin? Is his body in the forest somewhere? Like he is somewhere. His body is somewhere on this earth. Unless those orbs got him, but his body is probably somewhere on this earth wherever he's alive or dead. So something happened to him. And we have to be able to find that you know, piece it together. Now the last possibility, I think, is that he got brought in. That there is some weird connection here to this disclosure thing that's going on that Trump announced because the timing is pretty suspicious, right? We all of a sudden are going to get disclosure. They've been talking about these videos that they're going to release Anna Paulina has been talking about they're going to release. And then this guy disappears right before all that gets announced. What if they're bringing him in because he was part of these programs? And what if now we need him to I'm just going to come up with something off the top of my head like reverse engineer that technology. What if that technology was like deep in Lockheed Martin, but the US government can't get it. And now Trump's like, "Hey, we want that." And the analogy would be the fog bank nuclear material. There was a metamaterial we used for nuclear weapons called fog bank and we forgot how to make it. You would say, "What? That's not possible." Well, it is and we did, and we had to reverse engineer our own technology to figure it out. So, I think there are scenarios by which we could have brought him in to figure out some of this technology or to explain this technology or build some of this technology or to build a weapon against our adversaries. And let me throw this at you because this is what is disclosure all about? Bigger picture. The scary part of disclosure of everything I've been talking about isn't what they're going to do to me or you know, what if I'm wrong or any of that. The scariest part is what happens after I'm right about this technology. What happens after I'm right that we've got plasma balls that can teleport a Boeing 777? I mean, just think of all the implications of weaponization you can do to that. And start to think about, oh, now Iran can build those. Now China can build those. Now Russia's going to have those. Like, soon. Like, in the next 5 years. And and let me say this. >> to feel safe when you have that? Yeah, real quick, for those of you that maybe kind of a little bit lost in the sauce, we uh I had the first time I had Ashton on, we talked about the uh the disappearance of MH370. Uh if if you don't know what we're talking about right now, he talks a lot more about the physics. We're not going to get into all that stuff. But, go watch that interview that we had uh I don't know. That was what, like, 3 months ago, something like that. Go watch that if you're if you feel like you're having there's some information gaps here. So, anyways, we covered all that. Uh he covered what he had to say about it. I just sat there and listened like the I don't know, non-physicist guy that Well, let's break down simple. Yeah. >> Fusion propulsion. Two words, you know, fusion and propulsion. Want to keep it super simple, that's all you got to know. You've been wondering about, where's few They've been saying we're going to get fusion for 30 years. Well, answer's pretty obvious. They had it. They had it the whole time, and they've been lying about it. That's number one. Number two is propulsion. So, here's that second aspect of it. All these fusion reactors, the ITER one, this huge one they're building in in uh Europe, it's just a metal donut, a giant metal donut. Turns out that whole approach is wrong. We were to literally never going to get productive fusion from that approach. It's just a math problem. But, there's actually a solution to that that they also solved decades ago called high beta, which basically means we're not going to confine the plasma. We're just going to make the plasma do all the hard work for us. And all we have to do is figure out a geometry, a shape of this plasma, where it does the work for us. It turns out that shape is actually a donut. The shape actually is a donut, but we were just doing it wrong. We were trying to confine it in a donut, and instead we should have let the plasma try to do whatever it wants. And that we call that high beta regime field reverse configuration. That's what Try um Tri Alpha Energy, the company that Trump just basically bought and merged with, does, and what Helion Fusion, John Slough, Richard Eskridge's former coworker, what he's the co-founder of. So, that's the big rub. Now you can begin to see, oh, it's about energy. Yeah, it's about free energy. And it's about they turn these balls of plasma, fusion reactors, into propulsion mechanisms, into drones that can fly around in the sky. That's why you're seeing balls of plasma flying around in the sky. So, that hopefully brings you guys back up to speed here because now you should have some context of, oh, why is like MIT's number one fusion scientist being shot in his home walking in while his like family's in front of him? That seems pretty weird, right? Like, oh, well, that turns out that guy totally understood all of this physics, understood the idea that Earth's magnetic field has to be replenishing itself somehow, challenging our conceptual >> Lareiro, right? Nuno Lareiro, yeah. And if you look at that, they released like very little information about this as well because he got shot by the brown shooter. The brown shooter that shot up the university Yeah. like 3 days later, randomly finds Nuno Lareiro walking through his front door, and shoots him. And then after that, you'd be like, okay, well, did he go on the run after that? Like, nope, right after that, he just went to like his nearest uh U-Store or whatever, and just like offed himself. Like, what? How random is that? It's like, what's the Why would he do that to Nuno Lareiro? And the story we've been told is, well, he went to school with him like 30 20 years ago. Just makes absolutely no sense. And then you find out like this wasn't a ran Nuno Lareiro's not a random guy. Like, MIT's fusion reaction reactor system is like one of the top uh academic fusion uh systems in the entire world. Right. >> So, if you're looking for people, cuz a lot of people say, Ashton, why don't you build something if you know about this physics? You want to know why? I'll tell you right now. Because I started finding out I I started asking myself, where is the end point of this technology and its intersection with the public? And I found it. It's public fusion. Our public fusion is as far as we've come to unveiling this space-time manipulation. And the moment they start turning these fusion reactors on and turning them into their non-equilibrium setting, it's going to be undeniable that they are just literally interacting with the fabric of space-time. So, that that's the big rub. That's the If you want an underlying connection, that's my take on what connects these people. And it's not a connection where it's like, oh, okay, there's a big conspiracy to take all these specific people out. It's more so they're all in this community, and they're all people that have been pushing the boundaries, challenging the status quo. Agreed. Real quick, I feel a duty and responsibility. I think we need to play this uh 911 call so everybody has all the information uh from General McCaslin's wife. Let me take this off. We'll throw this one up there. And I haven't heard this before. This is the first time I'm hearing it. So, let's play this and see what happens. My husband is missing. Tonight, new audio from the wife of a retired Air Force general gone missing in New Mexico. I have some indication that he must have planned not to be found. >> That's William McCaslin's wife, Susan, during the call to authorities on February 27th, the day her husband disappeared. The call was first obtained by Law & Crime, and later verified to NBC News by the Sheriff's Department. >> He left his phone, he changed his clothes into I don't know what. I think he's on foot. >> McCaslin's disappearance generated a lot of speculation due to his past career as a high-ranking military general. McCaslin was retired, but at one point worked inside an Air Force base in Ohio, long rumored to house extraterrestrial debris, despite repeated Air Force denials. Following his disappearance, authorities confirmed only a few items were missing, including a .38 caliber revolver, adding McCaslin had stated he was experiencing mental fog. His wife telling this to the dispatcher. Other than saying if his brain and body keep deteriorating, he didn't want to live like that. But, it seemed to me that was just a man, I hate how this is going kind of thing. Camila Bernal, NBC News. We thank you for watching, and remember I lied. I had I had seen that before. I just forgot about it. And yeah. So, you know, that is what his wife said then, um and you can take all that stuff into account and kind of make a decision what you think is true or not true. And Yo, let me comment on a couple of those, then. So, first, she called the police 3 hours after he disappeared. Does that not seem weird to anybody else? That's a big data point. Who calls the police when someone's only gone for 3 hours? I mean, you must suspect that they ran. You must suspect that they ran if that's the situation. Otherwise, you're even if you think your husband shot themselves or whatever they did, you would be sitting there praying that you're not right. You'd be sitting there praying they're going to walk in the door any moment. You'd be So, hey, she had to know right away that there was something wrong, and that he was gone to call that fast. Yeah. The other thing I want to point out is people were trying to say that the whole thing at the end about, oh, he had this thing going on. I mean, right after that, she basically pours water on that whole thing. That whole This is what Matt Walsh was pointing out, too. Oh, he had a His body was deteriorating, and if it kept happening, he didn't want to live that way. That is not an indication that somebody went and just shot themselves, guys. That's every old person in this whole world getting older and having more and more pain. That does not mean that, oh, that's it, I'm ending it all. And she says right after that, that was just like an indication, like, a normal thing that people say, like, oh, yeah, you know, just kind of an a reference in general or off offhand comment. Now, last thing I want to point out, he changed his clothes. That's super weird. And to me, that's not something you do if you are committing suicide. Like, unless you are doing some super specific ritual thing, to me, you change your clothes when you are disappearing. Your wife just went to the doctor. She knows what clothes you're wearing. The reason why you're changing your clothes because she calls the police and says what you're wearing, you don't want anyone to recognize you. I mean, this is a huge detail, guys. And here's the thing that bugs me the most about this. Why is it Ashton Forbes talking to Gary Melton talking about this? Where are the people on TV? Where are those congressmen and senators pointing out these details that are extremely relevant to what's what? He changed his clothes. Come on, guys. Something's wrong here. Something doesn't add up. And the last part, you notice how the news downplays it? A base in Ohio. Uh Edwards [ __ ] Air Force Base? Yeah, it's like the number one place where we test Air Force propulsion concepts. Have you ever heard of it? That and Wright-Patterson are like the two biggest ones that people know about. They downplay that like, "Oh, just something this He was commander at some base." Uh commander at the Air Force Research Labs? The reason why I'm freaking out is cuz I've been reading all the Air Force Labs papers, baby, and I am very worried about the general. Very worried about him. And and by the way, folks, we actually played um a presentation that I know that Ashton had last time where McCaslin was actually given a a presentation on advanced propulsion systems. So, like he has intimate first-hand knowledge of this stuff. So, this is not just us saying, "Oh, making some weird connection that doesn't exist between oh, he was a Air Force general, so he had access to this information." No, like legit, he was a subject matter expert on this. He was giving presentations on advanced propulsion systems. So, that's very different. I also want to address this comment real quick because we just proved that it's not true. And we have Dan Dan Goodwin says, "Wait, [ __ ] He did have Alzheimer's and serious physical health diagnosis. His wife said so in the 911 call. Be honest." Clearly, we we did not hear that he had Alzheimer's. That's not what she said, at least in that clip. I am looking for a a longer clip of that. Uh she does say >> was asked about dementia. She also uh like a week after he disappeared said when she said the thing about that he didn't work on aliens or whatever, she also said he didn't have dementia either cuz people were speculating on that. So, it's kind of weird that people are trying to bring that back up and recon that uh back now. Um because yeah, you know, not only I think the bigger thing is even if you don't believe he knew about UFO tech, anti-gravity, plasma, whatever, which I he definitely knew about fusion propulsion. But even if you don't believe that, he admitted Everybody agrees, he modernized our nuclear arsenal. So, like we had to upgrade our nuclear arsenal every so often. He was the guy in charge of upgrading that. So, he was the guy who knew all our nuclear secrets of our most modernized nuclear weapons. Yeah. So, that alone should be like highest priority for where is this guy? And the fact that there's been basically no nationwide manhunt? Like where are the pictures on CNN of this was he what he was last wearing? Everybody's looking for this guy. Why isn't that happening? We will let Look at the Nancy Guthrie situation compared to this. There's nothing. It's like nobody wants to find him. Yeah. That's what's crazy. But how weird would it be? So, what I'll say is this. I'm going to put a prediction out there. This is a bold prediction. I'm not sure I believe it. But what if suddenly it comes out that he's been in pri- in jail. We've been holding him in jail because we're charging him with treason. He's been leaking classified information to our enemies. Which enemies? Don't ask. Doesn't matter. Um that would explain where he had gone cuz otherwise, I don't know how this guy can come back. Like if he did go away to Russia or he's working on a secret pri- How do you can you How do you come back after the all this attention? Like, "Hey, I'm back, guys. Uh Where was I? Uh just I was on a hike." What, for 4 months? What do you mean, where were you? Like, so there's not a lot of ways for him to come back unless he's in a body bag or unless he's behind bars, in my opinion. Yeah. Um Yeah, this is another comment that kind of reinforce what we said. There's been no official statement, medical record, or reputable news source confirming Alzheimer's, severe or otherwise. Let me let me hit a couple of these super chats um while I'm here going through these. Uh going back to the PT original again, 6.5 needs more or 7 mm 08 and why? 6.5 Creedmoor uh it's a better cartridge. You get better better aerodynamics. I mean, the ballistics are better on 6.5 Creedmoor than some of the old cartridges all the way around. Back to the topic at hand. Um and I actually want to address that just a little bit, too. Uh I'm out for the night. I'll have to catch up in a bit. Time to take a few few for the walk in the woods. Good night. Thank you for keeping it real. Uh you know, this this goes back to one of the things. Somebody today was like, "Gary, I don't you know, they they were on X they were like, you've changed so much." And I was like, "Tell me exactly how I changed." "Well, you know, like when we first started doing the Charlie Kirk stuff, you you were just covering the ballistics and every First of all, that's not true. I was covering all that stuff. And then he basically said, 'Well, now you've you've been talking about politics and everything else.'" Folks, go back 5 plus years of the Dangerous That's why the Dangerous Liberty podcast exists and then why it's kind of separate from Paramount Tactical as far as the YouTube channel. Because going back 5 years plus, every Wednesday, I would have the Dangerous Liberty >> and fusion propulsion fusion gets re- released on the public, everybody's going to have to change. And here's the thing. You want to know my political opinion? I'm happy to give it. I agree. I believe in American expansionism. In fact, I believe that my biggest nightmare in the whole world is woke people having control of this technology, of this fusion. In fact, I think woke people had control of this technology when they zapped MH370. And I go, "This is exactly If I If I'm right, this is exactly why we don't let woke people have this technology." Because then they go crazy and they start zapping civilian airliners and [ __ ] like this. Evil [ __ ] right? So, for me, I say we got to take advantage while we have it. United States has it before adversaries do. We have to dunk on everybody. You know, do what we got to do. Simple as that. Make the hard choices. And I think that Trump is already doing that right now. Well, you talk about making political assassinations real easy. I mean, suddenly there's a president that you don't like that just disappears out of the mid- middle of the air. Um you know, but you're absolutely right. Like all of this stuff is political. And here's what it comes It's not even political. Look, I love this country more than anything. It's literally God, family, country for me. Uh and again, you know, I was in the military. I went to four combat tours for this country. I would have given my life then. I would give my life today for not only this country, but for the truth. Like the truth is that important to me, period. And that's why I've been doing more of these types of podcasts because I do see an assault on the truth and I recognize what was going on. It's a psychological operation that's taking place. Candace Owens is being used, wittingly or unwittingly, I don't really care. She's in it. Tucker Carlson's in it. So, like I don't know what else to do to combat this because I see Americans being duped by stupidity and the only thing that I know to do is get up here in front of camera and tell you how I feel about it and point to facts and evidence that and then every now and then we'll have a fun show talking about, you know, missing scientists and UAPs and aliens and Bob Lazar. I cuz I'm interested in that stuff, too, and it is political. It really is. And it also it also touches on unac- it also touches on elements that I like I I 100% believe that there are elements of our government that are absolutely unaccountable to the entire system that our government is kind of the framework of our government and that I have a problem with as well. So, that's that's why this is important as well. It's good for people to realize it's not black and white. It's not simple good and evil. We are in a dirty murky situation here and I got to tell people it's not going to get easier. In fact, it's only going to get harder. It's only going to get murkier. The reality is not everyone's going to make it. Not everyone's going to make it. Part of the reason why I like talking to Gary is I think he's one of the people that can make it. >> [laughter] >> Uh but the reality is like this stuff's going to break people's minds. Even Anna Paulina Luna was saying this is like and Matt Gaetz the stuff they've seen in videos they've seen in classified videos that haven't been revealed to the public like their minds can't even comprehend it. They're thinking when I normal people see this, they're going to go what's going on? They're going to, you know, be looking for answers that are out there. And if you get to the real truth, if I'm right and they've been hiding all this technology under the guise of aliens, then it gets really dark, folks, because now we're talking about generational propaganda and brainwashing. Now we're talking about working against the best interests of humanity. The tragedy of the commons, which is an economic term, is basically the reason why we can't have nice things because we can't all agree to share a common resource and use it equally. Everybody wants to have more for themselves. And that also applies to why we don't have fusion technology right now when we could probably be living like the Jetsons in this moment in 2026 if we rewound history and made a few different choices. Imagine trying to wrap your brain around that. Well, it's just as bad on the flip side of that. If if we have been visited by aliens and, you know, we do have alien crafts sitting out in Area 51 or S4 or other places in the United States, and all of the stuff if that's true, then all the other things you just said applies as well. Whether we developed this technology or we reverse engineered it or it was given to it, whatever the the possibilities are, right? Either way, the government's lying to us. Like or there's elements of the government that are lying to us and I don't know but the fact is they may have really good reasons for it. But I want to know. Like and I want to know what what's what's going on with that. And and I did I did find it very interesting watching Bob Lazar the last time he was on Joe Rogan, which was just a couple weeks ago. Um I thought it was really interesting when he was talking to Joe Rogan. He's like, you know, I've thought a lot about this and he's like Joe Rogan was like, do you do you regret what you did or something along those lines? And he was like, I thought a lot about this. What if I'm the [ __ ] What what if what if I'm disclosing information and I shouldn't be and if I'd known the big picture, maybe I would would go about things differently. I I enjoyed watching that self-reflection because there are like there are things that people want to know about the military that I know about the military that I'm not going to tell you because there's really good reasons for you not to know certain aspects or certain um operational capabilities or, you know, there's just elements that like the general public doesn't need to know to keep our operators safe. Um and that maybe maybe somebody's really smart and in charge of this and and maybe they're not giving us information for a really really good reason. I don't know what that is. I doubt that. I'm very skeptical of that idea. But the fact is we don't know. We don't know and I don't know. I thought about that same thing myself. In fact, that's why I mean even in my live stream last night, I said like I'm not the hero. I'm actually the villain. Like the more I've looked into this, the more I thought this is being this is intentionally classified. I don't know what the reasons are exactly. I've speculated and the reasons that I've speculated are or I think are legitimate ones. They're probably very very close to the real reasons. Yeah. And the more I look at people say, well, Ashton, your politics confuses me. He said you're saying you're trying to reveal this technology, but you're also the same time saying that you want to use it to wipe out all our enemies. Yeah, exactly. I'm the bad guy. Don't you see it? I'm I shouldn't even be revealing this. I shouldn't be revealing what I'm revealing here. I'm doing it because I just happened to be that guy because I'm just a health care IT consultant that came across it and I don't know what else to do other than reveal it. Because nobody's coming to me to stop me because they can't because it's a catch-22. Because if they were to come to me and talk to me about it, then it would prove that it's actually real. So we can't do that either. So this is the the reality we find ourselves in. Now the beauty of it is we get a look in the future. You know, we get to see what it is that they're hiding and watch as it gets unveiled and we have the benefit of actually comparing something that we have evidence for, the MH370 videos, to what they're about to show us. And we should do another follow-up in a few months after they reveal these 40 videos cuz I'm going to tell you right now I think we're guaranteed to see not just plasma orbs, but plasma orbs doing what we see doing in MH370 videos, which is like coming together, forming a formation, locking in, and maybe even breaking apart again. I don't think we're going to see something teleport, but if we see that, then I mean, okay. You know, then we definitely got to follow up right after that. No, as soon as you get anytime you got something new, text me and and we'll make we'll be on the air in a couple hours after that. Sounds good. So yeah, we got to get ready here though for this. And then let people make their own minds up. So I'm glad we were able to do this here and talk through some of this because, you know, also Amy Esqueda I think was very passionate about this and I people that watch my content know I've spoken about Amy for years and I've said that she's with us in spirit. Like for sure she this is what she wanted. She wanted these conversations that we're having right now with people that generally UFO stuff would be outside their wheelhouse, but we're normalizing it. We're bringing it down to earth. We're not letting the government spook ordained people set the narrative for us. I think that's what she would have wanted at the end of the day. So speaking of her, let's let's switch gears and talk about her a little bit and then we'll come back to McCasland again. I I I think uh generally speaking, the public knows what we know um and what information is out there. I mean, we have we have a former general, he's retired, that's inexplicably he disappeared. Um and we still haven't found a body. It'd be one thing if, you know, we we found his body in the I don't know, wherever he was, right? But just like you said, we're we're a month into this. We're over a month. It's a month and a half now. Month and a half into this and we still haven't found a body. We haven't found any additional leads on him. That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. But Amy was kind of a a different deal because she was sort of documenting this thing for quite a while, what was going on with her. She was suspected that she was under surveillance. Um I know you got some videos. I got some videos. Probably your videos are better. So I don't know if if you want to lay out kind of give a a a a, you know, lay out exactly what was going on with her and then, you know, we can watch a video, however you wanted to do that, Ashton. Yeah, so the I think the big thing for Amy, if you want to know the backstory, was that of her claims was essentially that she was working on a scientific paper that was going to be probably unification or at least show an anti-gravity effects. Um that was the main idea. And so she did this interview or this discussion. I don't think it was meant to be released initially until I after her death they released it, where she was talking with Jeremy Reese and talking with Mark Sokol. I don't know if she that was her boyfriend at the time, but they were dating at some point. And she's drunk, maybe high, and she's kind of spilling the beans on a lot of stuff on the inside. And the reason why this video got big after her death is because there was normal, you know, standard conspiracy questions around her death. People that knew her knew she was big into anti-gravity. She had this big presentation where she goes through the history of anti-gravity and basically electromagnetic electrogravitic research all the way to now, going through all the scientific papers. Like she was very intelligent, knew exactly kind of what was going on. And then she has the pedigree with her father as well. So after she passes away from, you know, mysterious circumstances, people had questions. Her friends said that she would never do this, didn't make any sense. They were very very vocal. Then they released this video and in this video there's a lot of different clips of it. Now again, she's very wasted in this, but people say like people use that and they say, oh well, she's drunk. Did they use that to try to discredit her? For me, that actually makes it more credible. When somebody's drunk, that's when they're really telling you what they really feel, right? That's when they're telling you the truth. So at least parts of it. Yeah, true. And now I I've I've heard I've heard some dudes spin some yarns while they're drunk, too. Yeah, of course. That's not the impression I get though because what I can tell I've I've I've watched I've watched of it. I agree with you. I feel like she's she she gives a compelling story. I feel like she's being truthful. >> Ultimately, you know, believe what you want to believe at the end of the day. But what I'll tell you again is that what I was told was the defense contractors took her out. And here's the thing, too. When we go back to who's taking people out, it's not like the CIA directly. The people that are getting taking people out is the defense contractor security forces. Yeah. It's like actually people like you, honestly. It's people like you that not you specifically, but people like you that have retired from special forces that are now mercs for, you know, the big defense contractors. Sure. That I'm sure you've got some friends that have questionable morals. And the situation is they're basically given like, uh, you know, golden gun. As they say, license to kill. Uh, and yeah, that's basically how if they have to go to that level, but the reality is they don't probably go to that level like they used to anymore because there's too much forensics. So, now it's much easier just to discredit people. But in cases like, you know, Amy for example, where somebody is known in the community and it's going to be relatively difficult to discredit them, especially given who their father is, you could see why they might go to, uh, you know, another length to make sure that she's not blabbing anymore on on videos and specifically talking about specific people's names and and projects that are might be, you know, special access programs. Hey, and real quick, I just want to say just we'll just give this as a as full disclosure and a disclaimer, too. So, um, she died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. Uh, authorities ruled it a, uh, she offed herself, we'll just say that. Her father has publicly stated that he does not believe it was suspicious and attributes it to her health struggles including chronic pain. That being said, one month before her death, she had allegedly texted a friend something to the effect of I did not, uh, unalive myself. I definitely did not plan death by unaliving myself, rejecting the idea that was suicide. She was also documenting this and all this other stuff, but again, that's that's full disclosure. She have this father, um, that, you know, is in this to say in one thing and then she was making public statements multiple times saying that I'm not going to do this and then that was done. So, take that for what it's worth. You're you're you're muted. Ashton, I don't know why. All right, the one thing that to me that was just revealed this week. So, I have been on the she shot herself bandwagon, but still open to other ideas. I mean, there's not much evidence either way. We just don't know, right? And how do you prove it? But, the text messages that were revealed this week kind of really made me say, this is something that actually has to be getting investigated. So, let me see if I can pull it up right here because I want to say the exact words cuz supposedly she shot herself with her own gun, but her text message specifically says that I would never shoot myself with my own gun or I did not shoot myself with my own gun. Unfortunately, I I can't hard to find it right now, but specifically calls that out. Um, let me see, where is it? Oh, here it is. I think this is it. Yeah, here it is. She says, "Bob had it right." Speaking about Bob Lazar. McCandlish, Mark McCandlish. People believe that they took out Mark McCandlish. She was talking about zero point energy and anti-gravity decades ago. They say, "Mark McCandlish's fatal mistake was that he did not tell anyone that he was under threat. Bob is alive because he told [ __ ] everyone. I did not kill myself." She says, "I did not shoot myself in my head with my own firearm. I did not overdose on my own prescription meds. I did not drive off a cliff." And I mean, this is a text message from Amy. And then she kind of speaks a little bit about the directed energy weapon stuff and and her claims related to that. So, for me it's like, okay, it's one thing for you to tell me that there's no there's nothing to look into here. It's another thing when you're telling me that their cause of death is literally something that she sent her text message saying that this I would never do this particular thing. Right? That's like me saying, "Guys, I'm not going to fall down an elevator shaft." And then you find out a week later I fell down an elevator shaft and you're like, "Guys, it's normal that he fell down an elevator shaft. Stop asking questions." Like at a bare minimum, we have to ask questions now. Now we have to ask questions. I'm sorry, but when you have a text message that says I wouldn't do this particular thing and you did, I got to be a little bit suspicious. So, that's my take on that, but let's go ahead and play this clip that I've got queued up over here because she speaks about the death threats in that drunken video with Jeremy Reese and Mark Sokol. By the way, I know Jeremy Reese and Mark Sokol pretty not like they're not friends, but like I interviewed Jeremy Mark Sokol and I Jeremy Reese interviewed me. I know all about APEC. I know all about their propulsion conference. And here's you want the inside info on that thing? APEC, their little propulsion conference thing, that's basically like where the CIA and the black project people go to try to figure out like who's getting close and who they can maybe use and bring in versus people who are like not going to figure it out on their own. They don't have to worry about. It's pretty weird. It's pretty weird. Oh, do you have the clip? Oh, uh, I'm sorry. Which clip? Uh, I think I have it in the chat down below or what I don't know how that works for you guys on your side. I see some I see lots of clips. >> picture of Amy down there. >> independently discovered four other times. Uh, yeah, okay, there we go. Here we go. That one? All right. Okay, oh, this is the one about her >> independently discovered four other times. He said, "It has been He said, 'It has been suppressed every single [ __ ] time.' And he said, 'I don't think they're going to suppress it this time.' He said, 'I think you're in the clear.' He He said, 'They obviously know about you because I've had multiple both protective and threatening interactions with various agency affiliations, whatever.' >> [snorts] >> He was like, 'If If you haven't had a US government agent come to you and say, "Stop. Shut the [ __ ] up." "Stop. Shut the [ __ ] up." "If that hasn't happened, they're going to let you do it. They're waiting. They're like there There are SSP [ __ ] that are [ __ ] twiddling their thumbs like, "Is Amy not going to publish soon?" "Gah. We've been influencing this [ __ ] forever. Doesn't she know we want her to publish? Jesus." Like there's multiple people doing that right now. And on [snorts] the other side of the fence, there's multiple parties looking at each other like, "Didn't we tell this [ __ ] 3 years ago that we kill people for this? Is she not listening? What is she doing? She's still doing it? What? We told her we were going to kill her 3 years ago." So, I have these two like I have these two different scenarios floating constantly in my life where I have people being like, "Do it. Do it. Do it. You're the one. Do it." And then I have multiple people people being like, "They're going to kill you. Don't do it. They're going to kill you." Chat, this is what we call right at the line of crazy and hot. And yes, if you ask me, absolutely. I'd hit it. No question. No question. This is honestly my dream girl right here. This is the the exact level of crazy hot that always gets me sucked in that I always fall for every single time. I just have to throw it out there. Now, let me go ahead and be serious for a second, though. Which is that right at the beginning she says, "Anti-gravity unification has been solved four other times." Probably more than that. Probably more than that. This is the gross part about it is that when it's finally revealed, it's not going to be like there's one dude who was the guy that figured it out. It's going to be like, "Oh, wait. It's been solved by like a bunch of different people already." And they all have maybe a slightly different take, but it's all the same thing in the end. Yeah, it's going to be like that. It's going to be super awkward. A lot of people standing around their dick in their hand, basically, wondering what's going on. So, that was the big point that she brought up. And then the other point, which is if they're not coming out and talking to you and telling you to stop, then you're probably good to go. This is my philosophy. This is why I think the CIA wants these plasma orbs and magical tech and teleportation to be out there cuz otherwise they should have come and talked to me. They should have come and killed me. Let's just keep it 100. Let's just keep it 100. If I was in charge of CIA, I would have killed me. So, they're better than I am cuz if I get in charge of that of those those orbs, >> [snorts] >> I'll be like Thanos. All the woke people are gone. They're going to the moon. They're going to harvest our helium-3 from the moon for our fusion reactors. Well, so generally speaking, though, that's not the MO of what they do. What they do to people like you is they're going to discredit you and they'll let you keep speaking cuz what happens is if suddenly Ashton Forbes is disappeared or something weird happens to him, Gary's doing Gary and I'm sure a lot of other folks out there is doing a live stream every night like, "Hey, man, they got him. They got They got Ashton Forbes." So, it gives to you a credibility that you wouldn't otherwise had. The difference between you, necessarily, and and Amy is like it's documented on the technology that she's actually working with. You know what I mean? Like you you really can't if she discloses stuff, it's going to be very difficult to discredit her and what she's saying. Um, and I think to some extent that's what what why Bob Lazar has stayed safe, relatively. There was a lot of things done to him. He was definitely they tried to discredit him. Um, and did it to a lot of extent. There's a lot of people that I still, you know, they bring up a bunch of, uh, information that I know has been proven to be false about Bob Lazar. So, yes, understand like they either they either potentially there is a history that potentially points to they they kill people. And then there's the other history that points to they spend a lot of time with this information operations against someone trying to discredit them as well because I do think if they just go around killing anybody that talks about any of this stuff, it's it gives it gives them credibility that they otherwise wouldn't have. Oh, definitely. I mean that's probably the reason why I was so vocal, too, and why I came out with my public face like only like a few weeks into my MH370 thing which was like I I'm more protected if I'm out there because yeah, there's like a calculus that goes into it probably. Yeah. But also that this is something I want people to know just in general about me just I think you're right. You're right that they want somebody that's got credibility. That they're afraid of somebody that's got credibility that can go on all the platforms, that can push past the political bias, that can get the message out there and have people listen. And I and I realized that and that's what they're trying to do with what I call woke disclosure, right? They're they're trying to hold David Grusch up as the hero. First it was Lou Elizondo, then it was David Grusch, then they tried with this Jake Barber guy and it doesn't hold because that's not it's not genuine. It's not genuine. I think people see right through it. So, I'm not trying to do that. I'm trying to do the exact opposite. I don't I'm not trying to be like, oh, I'm a guy that came up with the anti-gravity papers and I'm I'm guy that built some secret invention or whatever. No. No, I'm not doing any of that. All the papers are already out there. I'm just going to be an influencer. I'm just going to be an influencer and do my own thing and be my own person and it turns out this is what I want people to know. We're going to take back all that. I'm going to show people you don't have to be any of those things that you don't want to be somebody that's being held up on a pedestal because why? Because when we hold people on pedestals, we don't think for ourselves. We just go, oh, what would my what did my master tell me to think? No. No, I want people to be challenged. I want people to think for themselves and make their own decisions. Not look up to somebody else to be told what to think. And that's hard. But that's something that will make us better people in general. So, that's the reason why I don't even try to be that. And we're going to take back all the things that they've used to discredit us. Because yes, you're right. They're they attack me and they discredit me because that's the way you take someone like me down. You discredit UFOs and you make them call it UAPs. You discredit cold fusion and you make them all go into hiding and you make them call themselves low energy nuclear reactions now. No, screw all that. We're taking UFOs back. I'll never call it UAPs ever again. We're taking cold fusion back, too. And when people go, cold fusion was debunked, I go, hell no, it's not. It's coming back. We're not calling it low energy nuclear reaction. That's stupid. I don't like that. Do do you really have an issue? Do do you think like the UAP the switch from UFO to UAP was really like a you know, information op? Yes. No question. And >> why cuz I I'll be on I don't buy it. Like I do like UAP because it it is it is more descriptive than the the sort to me almost UFO sounds more it's easier to dismiss. Like it's like saying flying saucer. But let me hear your thoughts on it cuz I I don't really have a I think it's a matter of semantics and I do think that UAP is a little bit more cuz it's not just um anyway, but tell me what your thoughts on that. Why you think Gary got the 7K chat. He he he might he might he's he's supporting Hillary Clinton's UAPs, guys. He might Guys, I I mean you know what? I'm I'm I'm I'm switching sides here. Gary got the 7K, everybody. [laughter] You know what? He's paid off. We knew it. There's the proof. The Hillary the news got me. We got him. Now, [snorts] the uh the UAP thing On this on this particular program, you're only going to use the term UAP, Ashton. Oh, no, hell no. No, here's the thing though. Let's be real. For so to be honest, not joke around, I think the reality is this. You look at the MH370 videos and that technology is nuclear technology. But you would say, Ashton, that doesn't look like a nuclear bomb. You're like, that's completely different than a nuclear bomb. You're making a plane disappear entirely. And I would say, that's exactly why they have to rebrand all this stuff. That's why we rebranded nuclear weapons to weapons of mass destruction. Cuz otherwise, why are we rebranding that? Because now there's a whole category of nuclear weapon or whole different inventory of nuclear weapons that have different effects that we can pull off. Sure. And why are we rebranding UFOs to UAPs? Because now it's not just strictly an aerial phenomenon. Now, these plasma balls can go through the water, too. They can fly through the sky, too. USOs. Exactly. USO. So, they're transmedium crafts as well. So, I think it's partially and that was also a rebranding just because there was literally a stigma around UFOs and the woke people were like, well, let's just come up with a new thing then and we'll do that cuz that's how they do. It's like, you know, we come up with Poochie in Simpsons. Oh, Poochie's the new cool kid. He's coming in to town. And then everybody hates him, right? Because woke people aren't cool. Everybody hates them. They're not funny. They're not cool. It's really it's that simple and it's that sad, I think. And that's why I think the most important thing about what I've been doing is reaching out to the other side, my political side, I guess you could say, and be like, look, we need to take this technology back from these people cuz I think what's happening is this deep state CIA is basically just hiding under the covers right now while Trump's in town. They're like, okay, let's wait for him to get out and then we can come back out and do our evil [ __ ] some more. We need to root this out by the stem like a weed and be like, this is gone. And I think it might be happening. The evidence being In-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital fund, that's where they invest the money to take basically control of companies. Tulsi Gabbard just snatched that from the CIA. Now it's going to be under the DNI. To me, that's huge. I think that's where Palantir originally came from. Yeah, just think about that. I'm thinking about it. >> [laughter] >> Okay. So, let's get let's bring it back to the scientists then and the engineers. Because now if we think about it and we go, okay, crap, we got super nuclear weapons here. There's a paper that I just posted today that basically lays out exactly what I'm on the record saying these orbs are doing around MH370. It's just super high-powered lasers making plasma. That's pretty much all you got to know. Super high-powered lasers. So, if this is all real, then we have weapons that are way beyond what we have conventionally that we're using against Iran. More on the discombobulator side, more on the ghost murmur side. We have technology like that. And that's a conversation that nobody's really having right now. You know, they will you'll hear some of these UFO people say, well, what happens if we have weapons that are more powerful than nukes? But it's actually even scarier than that. Cuz it's not about just one big bomb that could blow us up. I think you nailed it earlier. Targeted assassinations now become a lot more a lot more easy to pull off. In fact, disappearances become a lot more easy to pull off, too, right? Yeah. In situations like we're seeing out here. So, if we do have this crazy technology, I would expect to see more and more of these suspicious killings, disappearances happening. Why? Because the technology is also getting more advanced. And now things that we can't explain are happening because may in some cases they might be using advanced technology including directed energy weapons like uh Amy Esridge was saying that was happening to her. I didn't put a lot of stock into this, but I know those directed energy weapons are real. That's science, that physics is real. It's the same physics of the ghost murmur. And they are going to do damage to you. It's going to harm your body because it's manipulating gravity at the cellular level at this tiny level. You can imagine just like, you know, going through a wormhole but not being completely through it. You know, getting all distorted and weird but doing that to your body. I mean, what would those effects even be? They could be cognitive. They could be muscular. You could have all kinds of different weird effects happening to you. >> inside out, upside down. Uh I I did want to tell everybody folks, you can go on YouTube. The full Amy Esridge interview is about 2 hours long. So, you can go if you'd like to go follow up and watch that entire thing. She talks about she's been tracking surveillance, physical surveillance for quite a long time. There's a lot more to it. So, at some point go check that out. >> clip, too, because I forgot I had more clips. Um this is another good one. Closure is going to come out of Huntsville, Alabama. Out of Redstone Arsenal. Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama is the biggest [ __ ] deal that you've never heard of. It's the biggest [ __ ] deal that you have never heard of. And so we need a documentary to drop at the same time that establishes the credibility. Because the fact is that we have deep and wide, extensive credibility that no one knows about because you're not supposed to know about it cuz it's in Alabama, it's obscure. You're not supposed to know about it. That's the point. >> [snorts] >> Wow. So, that clip, I call it space juice city, Huntsville, Alabama. Do you know what else just moved to Huntsville, Alabama? Space Force. Really? Space Force just moved to Huntsville, Alabama from Colorado. Yeah, that was one of Trump's favorite things he did. Arsenal? Yep, Redstone Arsenal. Yep. And that's where Tom Bearden was based out of as well. Tom Bearden was the guy talking about scalar physics back in the '80s saying that, hey, we figured out this other aspect of electromagnetism where Tesla was right. He says, this leads to free and it leads to teleportation." And he was based out of Redstone Arsenal as well. In fact, NASA Marshall Space Flight Center where Amy's dad is working. Also, Huntsville, Alabama. They're right next door. Right next door. That is a very, very, very important place. There's a reason why we put our space command there. So, also, I think it's where Wernher von Braun, I could be wrong, set up. Cuz reality, this might go all the way back to the Nazis. Honestly, I don't know or even care how far back it goes. I don't care if it came back from the Nazis or it came from aliens or what have you. At this point, I just know that the secrecy, the cover-up, the hiding of it so sick. Just tell the truth. And I think they don't know how to tell the truth for multiple reasons. Number one, the danger. How do we make sure that Iran's not going to make some plasma orb weapon? How do we make sure Russia and China are not going to make some plasma orb weapon like that? Something that could be very small and potentially be able to be produced without the resources of a nation-state? How do we prevent some kind of crisis happening? And then, how do we tell the truth? We've been lying for so long. We don't know how to tell the truth anymore. I think that a lot of these guys are trying to like wait out the clock. Like they're basically waiting to die because they know they're so they're liable for stuff that the world will never excuse once they find out the truth. Right? Uh Jim here says, "Do we really think the US is technically advanced far beyond China and Russia? I sort of doubt that." Well, I can tell you for sure, let's just talk about conventional weapons, we're at least a decade ahead of China. Uh probably 20 years ahead of Russia. Um just conventional [clears throat] weapons. So, yeah, we are. Like our stealth technology and things like that. And somebody earlier was saying that Um hold on, I want to pull it up because it's important cuz it's silly. Um again, Israel sold a lot of our F-35 tech to China. Look it up. Hey, there's the last bastion of the West BS, the typical inversion. Well, let's let's actually look that up. I'm I'm I'm down with doing that. >> Any any public technology is 20 years old at minimum. So, you think that oh, they sold their F-35s. The F-35s were obsolete when they came off the shelf, guys. So, we're not worried about F-35s going to China. What we're worried about is our microchip technology going to China because microchip technology is improving our capability to make better technology. Like this is the way the technology works is the technology gets better and then our material science, our ability to produce better tools gets better. And it goes hand in hand in hand in hand. Yeah, so according to everything we can find, and I looked this up on Google, too. According to Supergrock and anything I can find on Google, that is a lie. Israel is a major operator of the F-35I, a dear, a custom variant with plans up to 75 aircraft. Uh remains the only country in the Middle East with operational F-35s as of 2026. There's no credible reports, official statements, or documents evidence of Israel transferring or selling any F-35s to China. Past technology transfers, Israel's faced US criticism. They had sold some different things from the '80s and '90s, whatever else. F China's F-35 knowledge. China obtained F And this was a big deal, all right? And we knew this and this was reported on all over the place. That the Chinese had stolen F-35 related data primarily through cyber espionage, not from Israel Israel. So, um notable cases include Su Bin who stole designs for F-22, F-35, and pleaded guilty. Other intrusions 2000-2010 the compromised terabytes of data. This helped informed China's J-20 and J-31 programs. So, I I I just get so sick. I get sick of defending Israel uh quite frankly. Um I I but I I just can't stand these this just constant freaking influx of lies. Like if it's true, fine, let's talk about it. I'm look Israel when I worked at Department of State, I I worked on a I developed a program the our our uh security awareness threat prevention. And really what we did was counter-surveillance. We taught surveillance detection and we also talked about things about being aware using social media. And we talked about the different way that nation-states would conduct surveillance on diplomats and people going overseas. And we always warned about Israel. Israel will be conducting surveillance absolutely on US citizens in Israel. Especially diplomats and things like that. If they can get information, they will. Guess what? We do the same thing. Guess what? When the British when we have uh diplomats and people going overseas, the Brits do it to us, we do it to them. Like that's just the way that the world works. So, I don't know. I'm just I'm just so tired of the stupid Israel talk. >> bother with the bad faith people at this point. I mean, those are the same people who were saying we were going to lose to Iran. So, I mean, what do you really want from these people? Or that we were going to have boots on the ground in Iran. It's like they don't understand the the geopolitical landscape and they don't understand our technology, either. Like we're in a world now of all drones. And people think we're going to like occupy Iran like it's this year 2001 still. You know, so >> is I'm hoping that Corn Pops for Vince here isn't operating in good faith and is just ignorant or been informed. Look, there's all these people putting out this information and uh they they are agenda-driven without a doubt. I don't care if we're talking about Ian Carroll, Candace Owens, or whoever else. Like their whole thing is nothing but Israel Israel Israel. Um and it's just and and I was completely indifferent to this 6 months ago. And I I researched both sides of this and I found out the side that was lying and I decided, you know what? I'm staking my tent over here because what you you people are lying about Charlie Kirk, you're lying about every you're lying about politics, you're lying about Israel. I want nothing to do with you people. And if you're making me choose a side, I'm going to I'm going to be on the side of truth. And it's just dumb things like this that it's easy to debunk. And hopefully we can show people or highlight that people are being lied to and hopefully they wake up and realize that they're they're being propagandized. And you I don't know. Like people You know, I know the truth. Here's the sad truth. Oh, man. I I I think they're right. I think I think people I think people are just goys. Whatever they call them? Goyims? Goybeams? I don't know. People are the goyims. It's like we are most people are just cattle. Like when they say that they say that Jewish people call them [ __ ] or whatever, like I think that's like a fetish for them. Like they know they're basically just slaves. Like they know their position. Like this may be this may be messed up to say, but these are the same people that believe that like white supremacy. They're believing white supremacy. Well, if you believe in white supremacy, you believe that not everybody's equal. What if the Jews are just more superior than you are? Oh, crap. Oh, uh-oh. I'm I'm just saying that's your logic, right? They they have to be more If if 0.2% of the population >> the world. If they control the world, they have to be superior. There's no doubt about it. >> [laughter] >> So, anyway, I like to troll them a little bit with stuff like that. I like to take their logical arguments and go, "Wait a minute. But what if I follow your logical extreme and you think that white people should be supreme better because they're the most supreme race? Well, then what if it's as true of the Jewish people you say that they think they're supreme? So, whatever. I think it's all silly. I think everybody's ultimately equally stupid at the end of the day. And ultimately, if you want to separate yourself from everybody else, get ahead of this fusion propulsion thing cuz not every Like I said, not everyone's going to make it. And if you're ahead on this one, you're going to be ahead for the next several generations. Like this is one where people's minds are going to explode. Not everyone's going to be able to deal with it. Well, a couple things I want to jump in to here. >> need to find some stock to invest in. Whoever's doing it, let's let's invest in some stock into that. Well, the problem is that we don't know who the CIA is going to let win. But and everybody hates Trump so much. Like normally, I would say invest in in Donald Trump who just bought uh TriAlpha Energy. But people like literally just hate Trump so much that like they would probably rather we never get fusion as long as Trump's not successful. So, >> [laughter] >> we pump the brakes on it a little bit cuz they are not rational thinkers or actors. Um but let me talk real quick about the MH370 and this technology. Yes, indeed. >> Because people say like, "Asher, why would we do this to a civilian airliner?" And the reality is you need a very good reason. The world does work with rules and even the CIA has rules. And the only way that that could have happened, that operation, is that there must have been a presidential finding. Which means that the National Security Council, someone they found a reason to target that plane. Now, keep that in mind. You think, "What could be so important you would target a civilian airliner?" It has to be the technology. It has to be. Either one person on that plane was a VIP that they had to stop or to secure or it was all those engineers combined and their collective knowledge that had to be stopped. And that's scary because what I say about this technology and how we can never let our adversaries have it, now you can realize, "Wow, what are we going to have to do to maintain the supremacy?" What have we already done? What kind of sick stuff have we already done to maintain it? Am I going to have to defend what we did to MH370 in like 5 or 10 years when people realize it's real and I go, "Okay, no, guys, we had to do it because we couldn't let China have the tech." Uh then I I allow people to call me a hypocrite at that point. No, I'm with you. I was I was reading some through some super chats with that. Um Gray Hughes says, "Uh um if they find him in the mountains and it appears he took his own life, will people believe that or was he merely executed up in the mountains that it was made to look like he took his own life? I would say that if they can uh for me personally, if they pointed like, "Hey, he's been here since approximate time that he left." I would say, "You know what? He probably committed suicide for whatever reason." Um Yeah, I I'd be fine with that. Yeah, and honestly, let me I'll even back up cuz I agree actually. If you could just give me some evidence, yeah, I'll believe it. Because like I said before, what's the point of picking a battle where you can't win, even if it ends up being a cover-up? This is why I say, if and when they take me out, which I'm just going to be honest, I got to be at least on the list, probably pretty high on the list. If they do, don't freak out about trying to prove the conspiracy cuz they're going to do it in a way that there's no way it's getting back to them. They're going to do it right, and they're going to do it right. >> be honest with you, Ashton, and that is going to give me at least a year's worth of content. So, I just want to tell them, "Thank you. I have no doubt." >> happens, [laughter] you will be set, Gary. You can save these clips forever. I'm like, I'm going to create a whole thing about it, Ashton. I'll be like, "I was the only one that cared about Ashton." It was It was the girlfriend that had him killed. She was part of the CIA. I You know, I'm just I'm just going to make stuff up. It's going to be >> Candace never cared about me. Gary was my best friend the whole time. He can speak for me in my death. I got texts from Ashton >> right before he died. I'm telling you, word. >> [laughter] >> But no, in all seriousness, like it I just tell people, if they orb me away or do whatever they do, just forget about it. Honestly, instead of don't do something productive. Instead of worrying about trying to prove how they killed me or some psycho [ __ ] like that, just put all my stuff into AI and have it spit out the answers for you. Cuz I actually The crazy part is we're at the point now where AI is so good that you can just have it be like, "Go reference Ashton's live stream, pull the scientific papers, explain how it works." And it'll just tell you. I just sometimes do it in my live streams and even I'm impressed. I'm like, "Wow, this is actually really And I think this is why they know they can't keep it hidden forever. Cuz eventually enough smart people are going to use AI as a tool in a smart way, not like, "Grock, is this real? Dude." Like those people are They're They're not going to make it. >> [laughter] >> They're not Those people aren't going to make it. But the people that are using AI to be like, "Hey, pull in these scientific papers, teach me these concepts." Those people are using AI in a way that's going to make them smarter. And those people aren't going to be able to be deceived as easily anymore. So, that's why I think ultimately this is coming out one way or another. And I see Bob Greenyer in the chat. I just want to shout out to him cuz Bob Greenyer, you should probably talk to him, too. Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project. Truth is, my man is my man is a genius, first of all. Second of all, hard to follow just because he is so knowledgeable about science and physics and engineering. But he's an experimental low energy nuclear action cold fusion scientist, and he knows all the major players that have been in that industry going back decades. And he was the first person that pointed out what those MH370 video plasma orbs are. He was the very first one. He was the one that said, "These are exotic vacuum objects." This is the thing that he's been studying for decades. It's this plasma toroid, and here's the truth about it. I I tell people How do you spell his last name cuz I want to put his Greenyer. Uh g r uh g r e e n y e r. Okay. Greenyer, Bob Greenyer. He's been on a bunch of podcasts. But here's the last part is that I tell people those plasma orbs are particle accelerator fusion reactors, which they technically are, but they're actually even more magical than that. Those plasma orbs are actually like macro scale exotic vacuum objects, which means they've basically figured out the fifth dimension. The control over the fifth Perfect control over fusion. And they just use spin. They have it spin around. That's how they stabilize it. So, you can imagine the precision that would be required to keep these plasma balls perfectly stable and know exactly how far they have to be spinning or how fast they have to be spinning. And it was Bob Greenyer who was the first one to like explain it all well before I even understood it. Understood any of it. So, a big shout out to you, Bob. Thank you, man. Uh how do you spell his s e on X? Because I'm I'm I'm searching for him. I can't find him. >> He's Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project because Martin Fleischmann was one of the cold fusion guys, Pons and Fleischmann. So, he's Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project on YouTube and on X. But it's Bob Greenyer is the man behind the curtain. So. Uh Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project? Yeah. Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project. Yeah. And uh yeah, his stuff's really good. And he's the one that showed me a lot of the early scientific papers, including, which I will explain right now, the force free time harmonic plasmoids. Sounds like the craziest paper ever. It's one of those Air Force Research Lab papers. Force free time harmonic plasmoids by Jack Nachampkin, 1993, right after the cold fusion thing. So, 1989 was cold fusion. 1993, the Air Force Research Lab writes this paper. And this paper was taking Ken Shoulders' EVOs, his dense negative charge clusters, and figuring out the math to scale them up to make them huger. And that's how you turn it into a fusion reactor. And now we call that field reverse configuration. They came up with a brand new name for it. So, that's the long and the short of how what they're really hiding, which is not just fusion reactors, but this whole new method of doing it using uh dense balls of of negative charge, which is kind of a combination of inertial electrostatic fusion and uh inertial confinement fusion. Is quantum heat on X? Yeah. [clears throat] Oh, Quantum Heat. Thank you. You found them. Yep. Thank you, guys. You sent me misinformation. The trust circle's broken. Uh I'm hearing rumors that technocrats are recruiting fusion engineers, and if they say no, they will be killed. Rumors are the Trump, Bezos, Altman, Thiel, and many others are forming their own fusion something. Company. This is a fun conspiracy. Who is this Green Thumb? Golden >> Green Thumb, allegedly. No, I You know why I like this? Because they're we're literally building these fusion reactors for the data centers. Like, you Trump even said, "We're going to get power back from these fusion from these data centers." It's like, the only way that works, like how does that work from an economic standpoint? Because I'm looking in the future now, and I'm going, "Wait a minute." So, the data People that own the data centers like Elon Musk, Peter, you know, Peter Thiel, these people that are doing this, Sam Altman, Google. they're now going to also own the power companies? >> [laughter] >> Um >> They're going to be building their own power companies. They're going to have to. They're building their own power companies. They're basically building their own governments at this point. So, this is got dystopian future written all over it. And the more I'm thinking about this, the thing that bugs me out is Elon Musk's response about the MH370 videos. He only responded one time to the Hodge Twins. And he said it was a copy and paste response about, "We've never seen aliens or I've never had a navigator on aliens, and if I do, I'd be the first one posting." And it was like literally word for word his copy-paste response every time. And I've always kind of thought maybe he's just an idiot. But now I'm kind of like, man, maybe he really does know. Maybe these guys on the screen down here, maybe they really do know about this. And if so, yeah, I would do some [ __ ] like this. If it was me and I was one of those guys and I'm building a fusion reactor for my data center that's going to control the world pretty soon, I would be getting all the top guys. And any of the top guys that didn't want to join me, they'd be having some accidents. They would be tripping off their balcony. They would be having heart attacks untimely, you know, normal stuff that happens that's not conspiracy. They would be shot on their front porch by [laughter] their 20-year-old ex classmate. You know, it's it's funny you mentioned Elon Musk and how they're he's kind of like I I actually have a really wealthy client that has has done business with Elon. And we were talking about him specifically, and I was kind of asking him what he's like and all these other things. He's like, "You know, Elon's an interesting guy in that he doesn't [clears throat] com You know, we were talking about his wealth and everything else. He's like, "He doesn't He doesn't compare himself to other people. He compares himself to governments. And essentially, and this he said the exact same He's like, 'If you think about it, that's what Elon is doing. Elon is like building his own government.' And, you know, whether it's the different compounds that he owns, we have an entire satellite network. Um you know, that's that's the way he sees himself. And I thought that was extremely interesting to to conceptualize a little bit. But I think you're right. Like, you you see some of these people that are so extremely wealthy that that that is how they That's how they see themselves. They're they're in competition with with governments themselves, and they have resources that the governments depend on. And it's just a it's a different way to look at reality, I guess, a little bit. But the It was funny that you mentioned that. I saw a random comment about David Wilcock. I think we should probably just bring him up since we're getting closer to the end, which is, you know, David Wilcock was a UFO researcher, and he passed away. He He took his own life. I saw the report today saying that I mean, I want to see the body cams because there's clips of this guy just from a a ago, right before he died, where he sounds on a live stream, sounds completely normal. And in all the clips I've seen him, he seems like a happy guy. I don't see any signs of distress whatsoever. And this is a guy that's been bullied and attacked by people in the UFO community relentlessly. Yeah. I know how they are. And yet he's pushed through it. And now suddenly, right when we're about to get disclosure from Trump, he decides that now's the time where he's just sick of it all? Like I don't I just I don't understand the motivation. It doesn't make any sense to me. I think you correct me if I'm wrong. I think David Wilcock had his own YouTube channel and he he created his own content. >> like 500,000 followers or subscribers, yeah. Sure. And he obviously talked a lot about the UFO phenomenon. But you know, where I knew him from was like he was always on like Ancient Aliens and many other documentaries like that. So that's where I knew him from, but so I don't know that much about him personally. As soon as I saw a picture of him and I I knew that he, you know, it was reported that he would killed himself and they kind of lumped him into the other 11 scientists. I don't know how many of these folks have any connection or if there's a connection between any of them. I do think that it is extremely odd, but there again, I I you know, my question is how many times in history can you kind of look at of all the I mean I don't know how many physicists are in the world. I don't know how many people are in fusion and propulsion and you know, could you make this link at any point in time in history? Seems unlikely, but I have to look at, you know, the actual stats. So just like with everything else, folks, you got to look at things skeptically and you should be. You should be skeptical of everything we're saying. Um and and and critically think about it. But it is odd that but you know, we don't know his personal life either cuz I've I've seen guys look I know people that are service members that I thought they were the least likely person to, you know, commit suicide. And unfortunately, they do. Uh so, you know, humans are funny things and we get wrapped up in our own head and all there's a lot of people out there that put on a put a smile on for everybody else and are I mean um you know, when we look at oh god, what was the comedian that killed himself? Um Mrs. Doubtfire. Um Oh god. Anyways, somebody out there. But Yeah, I mean the point is though is that, you know, just because something's weird doesn't necessarily make it a conspiracy, right? Is It it could be Robin Williams, yeah. You want to hear you want to know a crazy story about Robin Williams somebody told me, which it was just a story. I don't know if it's true or not. But somebody came to me one of my replies like a year and a half ago and said that they were at Robin Williams' house having dinner with him like after MH like a week after MH370 happened or something like that. And that it got brought up randomly. And he had and she said, "I still remember this look on his face when he says, 'They're never going to find that plane.'" And it was almost like a knowing tell. And turns out he killed himself like right after that. Like that was like he killed himself like right after that, I think. Pretty weird, man. He died on August 11th, 2014. Yeah. So like the plane disappeared on March 8th. So, yeah. That was like 6 months later. So weird. Anyway, not even 6 months, five, four months later. So, I don't know. The reason why I always thought that was weird though to me is that this is, you know, it's not conspiracy. It's just weird little tidbits because you could see how somebody who's like a famous celebrity might be in a position to know or hear information through back channels that the public might not be aware of. Imagine like just hypothetically, imagine Robin Williams who's super super famous, right? Knew everybody, super nice guy. You know, he might have known huge political figures. He might have known international political figures who were huge. What if one of them is messages and was like the Americans did it? That's it. They don't even have to tell them circumstances. Just that the Americans did it. And he can't say anything. He can't even say anything about it cuz people will think he's insane if he does. They'll think he's anti-American if he says anything about it. Imagine the psychological pressure that puts you under. Would you even want to live like that knowing a lie that's so big like that? The reason why I bring this up is again in context of David Wilcock and anybody else that harms themselves. A lot of people have, more people will. We have to just that's the reality of the situation is that the reason why I said not everyone's going to make it is cuz this is a lot to bear. It's a lot to take in, it's a lot to absorb, it's a lot to accept, and it's a lot to bear. It's all of those things. And >> shatter people's paradigms, too. Like that's that's the other thing. It's what? It's going to shatter people's paradigms, the way they see the world. >> Exactly. It shatters their paradigms. And that's the thing is that people get angry and violent when you shatter their paradigms. We've seen it in in politics for a very long time. And so it's actually not the people on the right that I'm most afraid of. You know, I think that the biggest concern is what you said in the beginning and all you were like is, "Look, guys, religion can deal with aliens. Like if that's all we got to deal with, I ain't worried. I'm worried about the people that tell me there's 37 genders and think that a man can have a baby. Um those are the people I'm worried about because when you shatter their paradigm, they get violent. They get violent and they go on murder sprees. So when you tell those people, "Hey, you've been you've been preaching everybody that you know the science and that you're the gospel on the science and it turns out you've been a fraud your whole life and you haven't known the science and the other people did know the science that you were trying to discredit." I don't see how those people live with themselves. I'm just being honest. Like that's the people I'm afraid of when it comes to the paradigm shift. Now to just go to last kind of convo I want to have with you on this real quick is not to change the conversation, which is like this technology we've been using, the ghost murmur and the discombobulator. This is stuff people should not forget about. If we want this disclosure, this is stuff I've said on my live stream, when the clues get revealed to us, we can't let them get forgotten. And these are two huge clues that prove this technology is real. Because the answer is there's an extra dimension. And this is important because it lets you cheat. Or normally with a ghost murmur thing, you shouldn't be able to detect a dude's heartbeat from even an airplane where the dude is down in the forest somewhere. It's way too faint. And electromagnetic signals drop off by the square of the distance, which means the further you get away, that signal gets really really really weak. So when you listen to these physicists, they say, "That's not possible. You can only do that for like a few inches," they say. Not miles, not feet. But they're wrong. You can do it. How can you do it? Because we're not detecting that one specific signal. We are sensing the whole environment. We're sensing the whole environment and then we are just sending our AI to look through that environment as it changes, as it fluctuates, and pick out pick out a pattern. And that pattern can be a extremely faint pattern. But they can detect it. And the way they use this is something called the Aharonov-Bohm effect. It's no electromagnetic signals at all. It's actually just using the potentials, which are real. With the Aharonov-Bohm effect shows these potentials are real. So what I'm saying is these potentials, they're shown in physics the potentials are the ether, the extra dimension. The way this, however you want to believe it, however you want to conceptually view it, the way the ghost murmur works is that it's using that extra dimension. It's sensing that extra dimension, which now that's how quantum entanglement works. We're able to now make two points It's like quantum physics here. It's exactly quantum physics and and that's why they call it unification. Because when we're unifying physics, what we're doing is we're saying quantum mechanics is real. General relativity is also real, the stuff we see in the cosmos. How do we how do they connect? Cuz there must be some unifying connection between them. But when we try to apply physics, they don't the physics doesn't work on either scale. So the answer to that is the fifth dimension. You add in this extra dimension and now suddenly, you can get everything we see in the big scale in the universe, the stars, galaxies and you can also get these weird quantum effects like quantum teleportation, like quantum entanglement. Why? Because there's an extra dimension. We don't see it. There's a bridge between the quantum entanglement points. We just don't see it. Why? Because the hand my hand up here is the extra dimension. And that's why you're going to hear these UFO people talking about extra-dimensional aliens. Because the reality is the physics is an extra dimension. But it's not that they're coming from some bizarre universe. It's that we're three-dimensional beings and therefore we can't see or perceive the fourth dimension. Our biology doesn't allow us to do it. But we can see the effects. And we saw those effects when we started triggering thermonuclear weapons. We found out that if we make a super efficient fusion bomb it couples. It connects to that space-time. And now we can get energy out or maybe put energy into it. That was the big secret. That's what we're going to find out. Well, you know, this goes back to another challenge that we have out in the public. You know, when we're talking about this, you know, ghost murmur technology there's our perception what we think is real and what we think we're capable of and then there is reality. And we're much like again, the tech not there's technology out there that's much more capable than what we understand. And cuz this is the fact, if we sat here and talked about look, if Ashton came on here 2 months ago and said, "Guys, let me tell you about this ghost murmur technology. It can detect a person's heartbeat from 40 miles away." Everybody in the chat including me would be like, "Bro, you're full of shit." You know what I mean? But it's real. Like it and you you can accept it or not accept it. I don't know how it works. Uh maybe, you know, I mean, honestly, Ashton could have been speaking Latin just now and I would be like, "Yeah, that goes that perfect." I don't know. I'm not a physicist. I don't really care. I'm a knuckle dragging gun guy. But with that being said, like even back to what someone said earlier, I'm telling you right now like the the capabilities and the technology that the United States has what you think and what we actually have, there is a quite a large gap. And and that's just a fact. Um and then there's like actually what we're using that is it's classified, but we actually are using the military. Some of the technology inside of like F-35s and some of our other aircrafts and things like that. And then, you know, what we have on drones. And then there's experimental stuff that is, you know, decades ahead of that stuff that they are actually they have the capability. They're not ready to release it. Maybe the CIA uses it. So again, folks, there's there's capability gaps and then there's knowledge gaps. Like you think one thing, this is our capability, but really our capability is this. And we are still, I think, generally speaking in most areas, we are still, you know, decades ahead of China and Russia. Uh and if you don't know it, well then they're just doing a good job. Uh but I'm just That's why China spends so much time trying to steal IP from us and and they do a good job of that. So, you know, that's kind of where we're at with that. >> Do people not read The Art of War? I mean, I feel like this is classic Art of War stuff, man. Like you project weakness when you're strong, right? That's what you do. You don't let you don't want people to know about your secret capabilities. And if you read the Skunk Works or really any of the people that work in the aerospace and defense industry, they're open about the fact that technology is obsolete when it comes off the shelf. Like cuz they're working on stuff and you have to realize the stuff they're working on is not the stuff that's out in the production and and out there in the public, you know, it's there's always something behind that. The question is, how much are they ahead? And this is what the MH370 video show is that they're not just ahead by what we think of as 10 years. No, they're ahead like 50 years or more. And so, someone's making a conscious decision that we are going to keep this military advantage over our adversaries. We're going to let some technology out, but only technology that we know our adversaries already have. Right? Well, I mean, all you got to do is look at things like the SR-71 Blackbird. Folks, we were doing Mach 3 and 1/2 in the '60s of a plane that nobody knew existed till the '80s. You you know what I mean? It's like we had no clue of what that what that And you think you don't think that we've made leaps and bounds since the SR-71 Blackbird? Ben Rich worked on the SR-71. Like when people want to know if I'm full of [ __ ] I'm like, "Guys, the people I'm referencing are like the people you guys know that built all the psycho crazy [ __ ] that you guys talk about all the time." Like people just don't know who is the engineers that did that are not as common knowledge. Ben Rich is the guy. You know who worked with Ben Rich? Charles Chase. Yeah. Charles Chase built those orbs in those MH370 videos. I you can't convince me anybody else did. Like I looked at this guy's whole history. He built a fusion reactor for for uh lot the Skunk Works that wind dark. Like it's just all right there. And so, what I tell people like, you know, even if this goes over your head, I'll tell you what, this is how powerful AI is. After this, go to Grok or whatever else and say, "Hey Grok, go review what Ashton said, you know, about Aharonov-Bohm effect, about the potentials. Does it match up to the real scientific literature?" And it's going to say, "Yes, it does." But it's going to say, "But it's not been corroborated or proven that you can" It will say, "Yes, these effects are real, but Ashton says that you can do wormholes out of this." And that hasn't been proven or what have you, right? That should be your big clue, right? If you've gone lived through COVID, when they give you that, "Yeah, technically it's true, but you can't do all the" Yeah, that's when you go, "Okay, it's real. I got you." First thing I'll have to do is look up how to spell the Aharonov-Bohm effect. We'll have to do that but [laughter] I'll get I'll hook you up. Point point to point taken. Yeah, and and look, >> [clears throat] >> again, folks, take all this stuff for what it is. Um I don't know that we provided you any proof of this stuff. Critically think about it. Uh do some research if you are interested in it. Uh again, um Ashton has a lot of stuff on his page. You can go figure out Look, Ashton has made a very compelling case when he came on about the MH370. I don't know if it's true. I don't know if I can't say for certain that that video is true. I'm skeptical of it. I'm skeptical of what, you know, a little bit of what Ashton says, but what I do know from my interactions with Ashton is I think that he is genuine He believes what he's telling us and I also know that he's spent a lot of time researching that. And that's the [clears throat] people that I want on my channel are people that aren't out there just just grifting for for BS reasons, right? So, uh I always enjoy his perspective. Um and yeah, you know, take it for what it is. Thank you. I saw the super chat that asked me to put the glasses back on for the final final takes. Uh I'll do it. Yeah, and thank you for having me on because truth is, I like talking to you because I want to talk to people that are more skeptical, to go people that are outside the comfort zone of the UFO phenomenon. And because I want to demystify this as much as possible because I do think there's something happening here. It's the scientists, this UFO disclosure. I do think there's an a common thread even if they're not all directly connected. And that common thread is we're about to get something incredible revealed to us. And how people accept this moment, how they react in this moment, it's going to define, I think, the next 25 or 50 years. So, hopefully I've done a good enough job to put the science out there, to give people enough context to make informed decisions. That That's what I truly hope. No. You always do a great job. I know you you got things to do. I'm going to go through some of these super chats and stuff like that. If you want to log off, but man, I always appreciate you coming on. Always love hearing your perspective. >> Thank you, guys. Let's do it again soon. Yeah, man. Anytime you got something new, just let me know. Send me a text. We'll have you on. It's always fun to talk to you and I don't care what you say. I'm I'm going with the aliens are real. So. >> [laughter] >> Awesome. Well, I'm glad we can agree to disagree and you know what? Now we'll see how it goes. So, take it easy, guys. Peace. >> All right, brother. Thanks. All right. Uh always fun to have Ashton on. Um again, you guys take it for what it is. Like, you know, a lot of this stuff is speculative. I'm not sitting here saying this stuff is fact. Uh I don't expect you to believe everything that Ashton says. I don't expect you to believe everything that I say, but I think these are topics that deserve discussion and some of it just gets into the theoretical [snorts] and speculative to begin with. Um >> [clears throat] >> Beth Rogers 9647 says, "This intrigue reminds me of the storyline of the Ayn Rand novel Atlas Shrugged. Who is John Galt? Love your channel." Well, thank you very much. Thanks, Gary. I missed a lot, but I'm going to rewatch. Good. Good. We appreciate you rewatching. Yeah, this is this is a fact. You want your enemy to believe you don't have capabilities. Art of War is an excellent book about strategy in war. And this is exactly right, which means you have to make sure that the public doesn't understand certain capabilities. So, uh it's working. When when people say they don't think that we are ahead of China and Russia, I'm just telling you you're wrong. And that's that's fine. Um yeah, I don't know what to say about that. Eliz6616, thank you very much, Liz. We we appreciate you. Elizabeth, I'm going to just call you Elizabeth. Before Ashton logs off, can he put on Tom Cruise glasses for his closer remarks? Risky business. >> [snorts] >> Absolutely. He I took care of you there. Uh oh, this is one question I did mean to ask him and I put it up there and then took it down. I forgot to follow through on that. All right, folks. Well, we covered a lot. Uh if you don't have any other final comments, gripes, or complaints, um let's throw Jen the producer on here. Jen, what do we got coming up over the next couple days? So, Monday we have um Craig Sawman Swear talking about human trafficking and uh the cartel. Just before he goes out on an op. And then on Tuesday >> Do we already have that uh live stream listed? Um I I was waiting for one last thing. Okay, got you. >> Okay, all of his socials, but I'll get it out in like the next 10 minutes. Um got everything else ready for you. >> know we're looking for a new producer. Uh that job is open. Yep. Yep. I know I suck. Uh and then on Tuesday, we have actually it may already be out. I'm sorry. Um but Tuesday, we have EJ Snyder, six-time Naked and Afraid superstar. He's coming on and he is going to be talking about whether you should bug in or bug out when the stuff hits the fan. Yeah, folks, we'll be talking about survival in general, you know, again, for those of you that uh maybe you're heavy into it, we'll have something for you. If you're you're not prepared [snorts] for anything, we'll be talking about how you get started. We'll also give you some planning criteria. Just like, you know, it's really important to understand, "Hey, are you we Do we bug out? Do we need to get out of town? Do we need to go to uh some sort of you know um link up point? Whatever it is. Like we're going to have those answers for you. We'll help you try to kind of sort through some of those decisions. And hopefully like first of all folks, if you don't have a couple weeks worth of food and some water on hand and lots of guns and ammo uh you need all those things. You need Oh, and medical gear. Medical gear is also if you have any prescriptions or anything, like that's a good place to start right there. But we'll be talking about all that. It's going to be a fun discussion. And then like she said Monday we'll have Craig Sawman Sawyer on. That's going to be a lot of fun. We'll cover a lot of ground there. I just put up the link for Tuesday's so you guys can check that out. One of the things that I would really appreciate you guys do is go to whenever we we post a upcoming live, do you go and hit the notify me if you're looking on YouTube? Um we appreciate that. So, do that. And then also make sure that you don't miss it, too. Um Also add a seed vault to your seed vault? Yep. Yep. That's a great idea. Have Yep. Um Greg, I don't have a seed vault. I clearly need me a seed vault. I will send you one. Sweet. Uh so what creates the similar episode space for the MIB to arrive at? Lazar's S4 movie shows a camel being frozen then a black blob appearing. Is that negative space, Bob? Um first of all, I don't have an answer for that. Uh they explained that a little bit in that S4 movie. And if you haven't seen that S4 movie, I suggest you watch it. I don't care who you are, you'll find uh that new movie very interesting. It shows uh what he believes to be extremely precise renditions of you know the sport model UFO that they have in there. The S4 site itself found it very fascinating, interesting. So, go check that out. I think it's on Prime. So, you can go check it out on Amazon or maybe it's on Netflix. I watched it on one of the two. So, go check that out. I think it's pretty interesting. Um I'm trying to see if there's any comments we need to cover down on. All right folks. Uh again, we always appreciate your love and support. Thank you for watching. Um any other big announcements we have, Jen? I think we pretty much covered it all, right? I think we covered everything. I did however, just so everybody knows, I did reach out to Bob Lazar. So, we're trying to get him on the show. I'd love to have Bob Lazar. I'm going to fly to him or I'll fly him to me. I want to meet him in person. >> [laughter] >> I will let him know. Let him know. Let him know. All right folks, listen. We got we're not planning on doing anything tomorrow Friday night. So, I want you guys to have a great weekend. If something comes up over the weekend, we'll end up doing a live. Also on I think it's Tuesday. Excuse me. Tuesday we will be going on Oh god, what's their show? The M3 show or whatever. Um MG show. MG show. All right? And uh we had those guys on last night. Uh look, I you know, I'm not How do I want to say this? We were talking about QAnon. And I didn't know they were into Q and I don't really care or Q specifically. I guess QAnon is kind of a different thing. I don't know. I don't know. >> [snorts] >> Um I have never thought highly of the whole Q thing. I I've always thought that it was a psyop. That being said, I haven't looked that much into it. Uh and then no matter what, I don't care if it's all true. I I don't I'm not really that interested in it. And I've always had a problem with the idea of why would Donald Trump, you know, communicate that way? Uh why wouldn't he just post all those things on X? I don't know. Maybe there's a reason. Maybe it's legit. I don't know. I'm extremely skeptical of that. But um you know, take it for what it's worth. I think generally we had a really good discussion. It's good to explore some of these things. And that's what we're going to do on this channel. And I know some people loved us having them on. Some people hated us having them on. I you know, I don't know what to tell you. Like you know, take it for what it is. And uh like we're going to cover topics sometimes that you guys don't agree with. And many of you probably don't agree with some of the things that we talked about tonight. That's okay. That's okay. I love you regardless if you love me or not. Uh or you disagree with somebody that I have on. Anyways, hope you guys had fun. Hope you learned something tonight. Hopefully uh I don't know. Inspired a little. Had some thought-provoking comments and I don't know. Whatever we got going on there. Um it was good to have some fun with some of these more light-hearted topics compared to all of the insanity with Candace Owens and even politics and Iran war and all the things that we are normally covering. To me this is a much-needed break. So anyways folks, we appreciate your love and support. Make sure you like, subscribe. Make sure you join a become a member. That's helps us out. Go check us out on all of our social media platforms. Links to all those platforms are down in the description below. And until next time, stay armed, stay ready. We'll talk to you. >> [music] [music] [music]