Paramount Tactical UFO Discussion

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You guys make this possible. you guys allow me to focus on I don't know talking and running my mouth and not having to pay attention to what's happening over in the chat. So, I really really appreciate you guys what you do and uh you guys are extremely underpaid in that regard. Uh if you haven't done so already, make sure you like, subscribe, and down in the uh down in the description below there's a link if you want to become a member and support this channel. Uh you're welcome to do so and we appreciate you. Make sure you share this as well. Also down in the link below or down in the description below is a link to all of Ashton's um uh social media uh pages. Make sure you go follow him as well. So I have been a big I don't know fan follower interested in the UAP topic for a really long time. Um, and I'm gonna go ahead and bring on our guest and then we'll talk a little bit about that and then I just want you guys out there. Look, I think when you get into some of these things, a lot of what we're going to be talking about is unknown, right? So, I I think it's easy for us to or at least we should be honest to say, hey, some of the stuff is speculative. Uh, I really don't know that much about MH370. So, I'm going to be relying on Ashton to kind of educate us on the facts involved with that. And I've kind of given him cart blanch. He may not even talk that much about MH370. Uh but as far as some of this stuff goes, it's clearly speculative, but we're going to have fun with it. Take it for what it is. And uh you know, just receive it with an open mind, have some fun. And without further ado, I'm going to go ahead and bring on Ashton. Ashton, thanks for coming on the show, buddy. >> Hey, thanks for having me. How are you doing? >> I'm doing great, man. If you will take a minute and just kind of introduce yourself to everybody out there and uh we'll take it from there. >> Yeah. Well, I guess I want to start by sending uh my prayers and having everybody send prayers to Nick Pope, who is a longtime ufoolologist who's been studying uh uh ufology. He actually was part of the British uh intelligence that that researched this topic and then became a figurehead and he just came out and said he has stage four cancer. So, unfortunately, he's probably not going to be with us for a long time. Uh really nice guy, really humble and really knowledgeable in general. So, just want to give him a head nod. Um, so you know, like he would say, I would say I'm not a celebrity. I'm just a public figure. I came out a couple years ago in this topic of this UFO topic. By the way, we call them UFOs, not UAPs. That's a Hillary Clinton thing. And we just we got to avoid that as much as possible because they try to rename all these things, including with the science, to keep us dumbed down to not let us put the dots together. So, I just want to throw that out there. But these the MH370 videos show uh some advanced technology being used on the missing airliner that disappeared in 2014 and they reemerged in 2023 and I started promoting them, researching them, investigating the missing plane. Um and when we watch those videos we see there are these plasma orbs looks like UFOs, everything that we've been told about in this UFO community. And so I have been on this adventure for the last two years. First after discovering that the videos are really what happened to the plane after researching it and then trying to understand what's going on with this UFO topic and what is exactly this technology that we see in these videos and how does it align with real physics, you know, stuff that's peer-reviewed out there and not just people making stuff up. Um, and so that's where I kind of want to take this conversation, which is that my only goal here is to try to enlighten people. Enlighten people about the missing airliner and enlighten people about what humans are capable of doing technologically, which is far beyond what the public is currently aware of. >> Yeah. I I mean, I think that's safe to say. Look, uh, you know, we had the SR71 Blackbird back in the 60s. Um, and that was flying missions for like 30, 40 years before we even knew it existed. At least 30 years thereabouts before we even really knew it existed. Uh, and obviously those things have been replaced. So regardless of where you are on all of this, like there is definitely technology that the US government and other governments have for sure. Now the question is whether or not it came from extraterrestrial sources and I think that gets fun and interesting and I'll tell you guys a little background on where I became interested in this phenomenon. So, when I was I was a little kid, six or seven years old, I remember my mom who's extremely religious. Um, something came up. We were at like a party at our house and, you know, we're a religious party, so we're like eating food and playing board games. And so, but someone talks brought up UFOs. She's like, "Look, I saw one." She's always I I've gotten her to relay this story a couple of other times. She's always been embarrassed about it. She doesn't like to she doesn't like when people bring it up. But long story short, I remember her talking about the fact that there was across the street from her, she saw a large disc-like object with lots of lights all the way around it. She what we know today is a classic UFO flying saucer. That's what she described. And as a little kid, I just became infatuated with the subject. I found every book I possibly could. I'm like, suddenly this is something that I thought was just science fiction and this could possibly be real. And I think if you dig into this, I know not everybody has time to get it get into this. They're doing other things, you know, working, living their lives. It's just not their thing. But there is too much circumstantial evidence. And just as of late, now we have much harder evidence that basically substantiates there's something going on. Now, whether or not this is extraterrestrial, I don't know. I tend to think that it is. And you know, for those of us that are religious, I don't see anything out there that undermines anything that from a religious standpoint uh with the UFO phenomenon and possibly extraterrestrials. I know many people will agree and that's something that's debated uh amongst people that are religious all the time. But with that being said, I do think there's some really good evidence that clearly these UFOs do exist and there is technology both UFO and USOS. Like there's been a lot of and USO is unidentified submerged object. We see a lot of objects and these are other things that have been documented by the military where you have objects very large going at speeds under the water of like 500 knots and and we've also seen footage of where we have these transmedium objects going from air directly into the water without even so much as a ripple. So it's a fun topic to explore and um I think it's it's good stuff. Now, with the MH370, two things I want to ask you right off the bat. >> Sure. >> Give everybody just a little bit more background on the MH370. And I'm also curious because just a couple years ago, and I haven't been following the MH370 um event very closely, I'll be honest with you, but I do remember suddenly those videos emerged with the orbs around the plane. >> Where did that that video allegedly originate from? >> Yeah, all good questions. And so let me uh I want to respond to a couple things that you said there. First of all is that I've never seen a UFO before. Um I only got interested in this. I mean like I guess I was kind of peripherilally interested in UFOs and like you like I there's something going on. I mean especially after they released those videos in 2017 and 2018, but I've never seen one myself and I don't have any bias in terms of aliens being real or not real. I would say that they they made the topic socially unacceptable and and you spoke to that with your story about your mom where it's like people saw them but they made you seem like you were crazy and we need to do away with that. Like you said, I think it's people should feel comfortable believing whatever they want. You want to believe that the aliens are here, you want to believe they're not here. Either way, you know what? We shouldn't judge people for that. And I don't think it does. I don't think it is incompatible with faith. You know, God can make aliens, too. It's a big universe out there. >> Yeah. Um, also you mentioned the transmedium capability. This is one of the first clues and I believe it's one of the observables they talk about in UFOs. This capability to go between different mediums without being impeded, which from a classical physics perspective seems completely abnormal to us. You know, we don't have planes that go and fly into the water and then come fly out of the water again. >> But with gravitational manipulation, with this electromagnetic manipulation that a UFO uses, then that does become possible. So with respect to the MH370 situation in videos, the origin story of those videos is that they kind of reemerged on Reddit on the UFO subreddit on August, I believe it was 7th of 2023. They had been reposted before, but they never really got any traction. They just got like downvoted to zero and people would just ignore them, say, "This looks cheap." And I think that was because people had no idea what they were looking at. Is that only now we know, and I'll pull the videos up in a second, that one video is wide area motion imagery, something that the public was not even aware what it meant or what it existed, even though the information was out there, just no one really looked. And the other video is a Lightning G4 by Northrup Grumman, which is a color fleer video. And the only videos we have, even now today, I was checking earlier today, there are no publicly released whammy footage anywhere. Even though we know there's been multiple systems and the only fleer videos have been released, there's zero like mounted pods that are on the wings. There's zero videos of any mounted wing pods and there's zero that are not black and white. Every single video that's out there is in the black and white fleer. So, they're very careful about this this this footage that gets out, which means that if these foot if this this footage is real, it has to be leaked military footage. The other thing about the videos is we can very clearly see in the color fleer that we're looking at a Boeing trip 7. Like very, very clearly it's a Boeing trip 7. It's not like those UFO videos where you're looking at a fuzzy dot. You're looking at a Boeing trip 7. You can see it in the in the rainbow pallet. You can even see the air conditioning. um manifolds. There's six of them throughout the Boeing trip 7. You can see them through the skin of the plane because of the heat uh difference. And in the Gorgon stair whammy, it has coordinates in the bottom left, including the relay satellite NOL22 that the drone is relaying with. So, we know exactly where that's happening. So, that's the origin story of these videos emerge on Reddit. They get talked about for two weeks and then suddenly this debunk appears out of nowhere from a one-day old Reddit account. somebody saying, "Oh, I found this this graphic from a '90s video game, and if you like modify it a little bit, like one of the frames matches up, and that means that this is all fake." And everybody goes, "Yep, this is fake now." And the Reddit mods ban literally ban discussion of it. They said, "We're done with this. Nobody's allowed to talk about this anymore." And they they move the the last stragglers, including myself, to a different subreddit that's controlled by people that want their debunkers that say that it's all fake. and you're like, "This is pretty suspicious," of course, and I didn't let it go. And what I found out uh about two months after that was for something like this to be leaked footage, which again, I'll show you guys. I know we're getting suspenseful here. I'll pull it up in a minute. This had to be leaked by somebody like somebody went to prison for this. You don't you don't leak videos that nobody's ever seen before of military footage outside of the standard protocol and not have them catch you. Especially because the whammy footage it is CGI. It is they are taking photos and building this Google Earth video playback. So that means somebody was logged into a computer system with software that is tracking their movements and their clicks in a in a secure database and they somehow got that out of there. So I started digging around in October of 2023 after all of Reddit decided this is all banned. And it actually only took me two weeks to find the guy that leaked the videos because you just think in your head like this had to be a major they had to be m taking this really seriously. We're looking at videos of an air civilian airliner getting zapped out of the sky. And I find this guy Edward Lynn Edward C. Linn super suspicious case. There's even the headlines are like the weird case of Edward Lynn. He's a Navy VPU2 spe like operator in this special uh uh program where people tell me that they don't wear their badges when they do uh operations overseas. And I spoke to somebody that worked with him in the same same time period in the VPU too. And they said that they you know they obviously can't tell me about like what they can what they do but he said he would have had access to that level of surveillance capability. Um, and it was crazy because whatever it is that they still to this day won't say what this guy leaked, it triggered an alarm all the way up to the joint chiefs of staff for how dangerous it was from a national security perspective. But they tried to downplay it like they were going after him because he was sleeping with prostitutes and telling prostitutes about national security and weapons. So, long story short, and then like I promised, I will play the videos. I reached out to his lawyer, reached out to him. I even called him live on a stream one time. Never ever would he return a phone call or pick up the phone, return a voicemail, and his lawyer changed his phone number. Lawyer wouldn't even answer, which is like, "Hey man, I'm saying you leaked these videos. I want to get an on there statement." You feel like that if you didn't do it, should be pretty straightforward, right? So >> yeah, I'm very confident in my assessment, but like you said before, obviously some of this is speculative, but the level of research I would say if it was if what I'm about to show you right now was anything less spectacular than what we see, everybody would agree these these videos are obviously real and obviously what happened. If it just showed a plane crashing into the ocean, people would be like, "Oh, that's obviously what happened. We just happened to be recording it right before it occurred." Right. So, >> right, >> let me pull this up and you can comment if you want. Um, here we go. So, I'll pull up um there's a couple different versions that I think are good. I'm going to first just pull up the whammy, which is the the this is a drone above. So, these are both actually uh MQ9 Reapers. Uh so, if you want to pull up the um screen share thing that I did here, uh both these are MQ9 Reapers. This is a MQ9 Reaper from above. They generally have one pod underneath each wing looking down and they circle over an area that's 100 kilometers 100 square kilometers. And so you can see in the bottom left you can see the coordinates. You can see it says NOL22. The coordinates change because the person's moving the screen around. So what happened here is they click somewhere on a map and then it like zooms in. It pulls up a window and we're looking at that window that somebody pulled up in this Gorgon stair wide area motion imagery. And right off the bat, you can see we're looking at some craziness going on here. Like we got three things spinning around this plane. And from this alone, we would never be able to tell exactly what these little orbs or whatever you want to call them are. We would just say they're UFOs. And we notice though they change and they go vertical right here. So there's clearly some purpose to whatever we see happening. And then this is the magic. In just an instant, it's gone. This footage we're looking at here is only six frames per second. So that's happening within one less than one second. Now what you saw happen right there, I'm going to go back just one sec. The person moves the screen over to the right. This is still, you know, real time is moving here. Now, this is a pre-recorded video. Like they can pull this up like DVR >> and then this person is doing a screen recording of a window. But notice that that mouse cursor goes over to the top right. And what it's doing is it's closing the window >> and that's why it goes black. >> Where where is this camera exactly? >> This is on a drone, an MQ9 Reaper drone above circling above and this plane is only at around somewhere around 5,000 ft. Could even be lower because these clouds are cumulus clouds you see in the background. So this plane is super low. That's the ocean underneath that you're looking at. >> And uh and we have the coordinates. That's accordance is the Nicabar Islands. So actually if you just draw a straight line from the last radar plot of this plane in the Andaman Sea in the Nicabar Islands, it goes straight to where this coordinates is in the bottom left. Which is why I tell people it's just absolutely insane that people don't realize either. This is what really happened to the plane. It's the best evidence by far of what happened. And that's just one video. That's just one video. So, let me pull up the second one because like I said, we would have really no context for what's going on here if we didn't have a second one. Now, this one actually compares the two. If you want to pull this one up on the right of this video, you're going to see the Gorgon stair compared because this will let you tell, let you see, if you want to pull up the one I just shared. There you go. It'll let you see how perfectly synchronized these are. This is a second MQ9 Reaper drone. It's got a Lightning G4 pod under hard point number or station number five underneath the wing and it's filming in color fleer. Now, it's really interesting that it's filming in color fleer because this indicates they know exactly what's going to happen. Otherwise, you would film this in like optical or just black and white, but they know what they're about to do to this plane. And from this, we can tell we're looking at plasma orbs. We can tell we're looking at plasma orbs or at least a plasma field. because of the the color of these orbs now is pretty much the same as the background. And when it really zooms in here, if I were to slow this down or even just pause it, I mean, you can clearly see this orb. Not only does this orb have a field around it, but you can actually see the heat signature inside of it super clearly. And the heat signature is not uniform. Part of it's like green and then part of it's blue. >> Mhm. >> So, what I've learned this is this is a little fusion reactor pretty much. So you can see this orb has part green part in it. So that's a different temperature than the rest. And you can almost draw a circle like a sphere around this orb if you were to imagine it. And that would be our magnetic field. So what this indicates is that this is a little fusion reactor drone. Um and the real proof of this I have one more video I want to share. So there we can see the plane disappear. For people that are wondering that is actually a wormhole. That's actually a wormhole. I would have never believed that wormholes were real, that we could actually do them until I saw this. But it's not annihilation. That's an actual wormhole. Let me share one last video for you and then we can talk about these or the whole any of it, which is this is a color. This this version of that same drone video has been color changed. And you'll be able to tell why it's been color changed in just a second. Look at those dark lines coming out of these orbs in front of it and behind it. And you can see it's kind of hazy like it it's not really perfectly uniform black line. It looks what's happening here is you're seeing radiation from a fusion reactor or just from straight up manipulating spaceime. What happens is that the electrons end up moving faster than the light and this causes something called Sharinkoff radiation. And Sharonov radiation is in ultraviolet which means that it's outside of the thermal spectrum. So because it's outside of the spectrum the camera picks up, it shows up as black. Shows up as black in the thermal in the drone video here. And it's only visible on this video from close range as well. So this actually gives insight into the propulsion mechanism that the drones are using. They're using the actual fusion reaction as a propulsion mechanism. And that's why we see these weird lines coming from in front of them. The the faster the electrons are moving, the more fa the the faster the electrons are moving than light itself in the medium, the longer the line is because you can imagine these electrons are like speeding out faster than the light is the light's trying to keep up. So the electrons emit their own ultraviolet light. And that's what you're seeing with those lines there. And then one last detail I want to point out which I think is vitally important because this is going to connect to my theory for UFOs. The last part, watch very carefully what happens right at the end. The orbs converge on the plane. They converge on the plane and you even see gravitational lensing in the last frame right here. You can see the orbs flatten out and you can even see the plane looks like it's slightly stretched from the previous frame it was in. See that? >> This is going to indicate that they're really actually producing a gravitational wave that is essentially equivalent. Like if you were to see this, it would almost look like you were dropping a rock in the water, but the water in this case is spaceime itself and it would look like it just disappears through a mirror that's not even there. So, >> so Ashton, what were you saying? What is the black part of the orbs? >> Uh, so the lines that are coming out of them, if you want to switch back, uh, thing, the lines are coming out this chairoff radiation, which is going to be this radiation that forms in a fusion reactor. And what they've done is that you can imagine there's like a tube >> inside of there. And what they're doing is they're forcing the air through it to create a plasma. Has the fusion reaction happen in the middle. And then you're going to have the radiation is trying to leak out of any end. So wherever the magnetic fields, like imagine the earth and the earth, we've got a magnetic field that goes from the north all the way down to the south. Now you take that earth, tip it on its side. The weak points are the north and south pole. That's exactly the same as this little fusion reactor. It's like taking the earth and tipping it on its side. Now you've got these magnetic fields that are containing this plasma. And the the part where it leaks out is along the axis on either end. And they use something called a magnetic mirror which is one of these department of energy uh you know laboratory experiments that they do to basically confine the electrons and the particles within this region in the center to force everything to attract to it and cause the fusion reactions to happen. But the main point is everybody talks about you were even talking about the trans medium the propulsion mechanisms of these UFOs. Those videos show it as clearly as more clear than any of the other UFO videos out there. It's not the reason why we don't see like heat coming out as UFOs when they're flying around because they're not using conventional heatbased propulsion mechanisms. They're using like what we see there is a fusion reaction which is leading to ultraviolet radiation as the propulsion or they might be using something that's even more exotic but based on electromagnetism, something that's not going to necessarily have a heat signature. And they've figured out thermodynamics to a degree where they can essentially reverse the uh cold going to hot instead of hot flowing to cold through relativity. The idea that if I have something going one direction really fast and something going the other direction really fast and I'm looking at the other thing, it's going to look colder than it really is. You can abuse this mechanism in electrons at the tiny scale and you can actually change mess around with the laws of thermodynamics. This is what I think they've figured out. So, sorry I was kind. >> What do you what do you propose happened to the plane? Are we saying that it was just transported somewhere else? And if so, where else? And where are the people? Because there's what 230 or so people on that plane. So, let's put ourselves in the mindset of those videos and just kind of take everything else, throw it the side, right? We're just looking at some videos that are clearly military surveillance. That's not it's not commercial for sure. And we can even see from that drone video, it's somebody's manually moving that camera around. It's not autotracking either. So, there's human beings involved in that. Why are they filming that plane? Why Why is there really a drone? Is there a drone above every plane flying around in America when they're flying over the ocean or what have you and another drone next to it? No. No. No. And you I know your background is in the military. There's only one reason why there's two drones around that plane. That's got to be an operation. That's got to be a special covert operation. One of the things that before this I would never have thought we could do something like that. But now since then I've learned from like the Msad Pager bombing, from the Venezuelan Maduro operation that we are capable of a lot more than what I think people realize. >> Sure. >> So then the question is, okay, if that's an operation, what's going on? Who's who's involved in this? And I'm just going to skip right to the answer. This is United States versus China. Why? Well, it's happening in the South China Sea, which by the way was heavily contested at the time in 2014 when this plane disappeared. That's where the plane initially goes dark. The plane is loaded up with freescale semiconductor engineers, defense contractor for the United States. They're the actual engineers, not like the middlemen, middle managers, or what have you. 20 of them. That's way too many people. Every company has policies around how many people of the same company can be on the plane, especially when they're engineers and things like that. And they're flying to Beijing. Eight of them are Chinese nationals. So, if you want to have leverage over them, if you're China, you definitely have plenty of leverage. You know, you can just make them and their families disappear if you want. So, that has to be what the motive is, the big level motive of this. Now, in the videos there, if you were looking closely, we also saw there was smoke coming out of the plane in both videos. Very, very clearly. I spoke to an expert. I I can't say who they asked me not to say, but one of the big experts that's out there that's been talking about MA370 for like 10 years. And it was funny because they came back to the same conclusion that I did, and I don't think they ever saw my work, which is that smoke is coming out from the AC exhaust ports underneath the belly of the plane. It's billowing off in the the bottom and then it's wrapping around the side of the hull and this means there's an onboard fire somewhere in that plane most likely in the cargo bay in the cargo bay and it's the smoke is recirculating and the system is overheating and they're trying to flush the smoke out of the system out of the plane. So, this speaks to me at least and I would love to hear your uh impression that that that the fire is not accidental. The reason why we're recording that with these covert with these these drones is because it's an operation. That would indicate that we planted a fire, a deliberate fire that's not going to cause the plane to explode or burn up in time to divert the plane away from China, away from the South China Sea. And then we deployed or we had our drones ready to go to intercept the plane in the Nicabar Islands. We knew exactly what we were about to do with to the plane with these orbs that we either deployed from submarines or from a like a B-52 or something like that. We deploy these orbs. We have their AI spin around the plane and then we use some, you know, secret technology. I would call wormhole technology secret that most likely is derived from the Manhattan project. Everything about what you saw from those orbs spinning around the plane is basically thermonuclear weapon principles. I didn't know any of this before a couple years ago, but one of the first things I did was start reading scientific papers. And I found out about a guy named Friedwart Winterberg. He's written some of these um classified papers called the DURDS, defense intelligence reference documents that the UFO people talk about. I actually read all the UFO people's scientific papers and turns out this guy Freyder Winterberg is a Project Paperclip scientist, you know, the Nazis and like the took their scientists from them or whatever. He's really one of them. And he did a whole bunch of research on inertial confinement fusion. and his thermonuclear weapons textbook, there's not very many out there that teach how thermonuclear weapons work, straight up says that one of the principles of making advanced thermonuclear weapons is a nonfish plasmabased trigger. Meaning that you would have instead of using a bomb to detonate your fusion explosion for your thermonuclear weapon, you use an electric trigger. The plasma is an electric trigger and you would use something called the polyhedral configuration, a triangle configuration, he says, so that you can collapse on it on all sides onto your fusion payload. And so here's my question to you to wrap this up because my opinion of UFOs based on this, based on what I just said is that they're nukes. is that what we see is those pl those drones spinning around the plane. Those are triggering a fusion bomb. And we don't even know what a fusion bomb does. We've never seen it before. We developed them in the 60s like with the SR71, but we immediately banned all testing right after that. And to this day, nobody has ever seen one or knows what it does. What if a fusion bomb creates a wormhole? What if it manipulates spaceime? I mean, what if we figured out how to control it so that we can figure out where the object shows up on the other side? To me, that explains the whole UFO thing. And it even explains how the aliens can get here, too. Because the aliens aren't using SpaceX rockets. They're using wormholes to fly around. That's a lot to digest. Uh, so where do you think again? Where do you think the plane went? Are we talking a different dimension? Are we talking about a different location? Alpha Centauri, like where did the plane where do you think the plane went? And I know this is completely >> This is probably the most important part because a lot of people try to make the topic silly. And when they don't want to talk about this, they'll say, "Oh, Ashton thinks aliens zapped the plane. Ashton thinks the plane went to the Bizarro dimension." In fact, I I sent a super chat to Nick Fuentes. I'm not like a fan of his, but I like to know what people think about this topic, especially, you know, influencers that are out there. And he came back with a, "Yeah, it's silly. I'll never believe it no matter what. Right? At least lets me know where we're at. You know, we're we're pretty far from understanding this to be real. But where did this plane end up going? This is the thing. The there is no Bizarro dimension. You're not there's not a there's not a dimension out there where Ashton with a twirly mustache. The aliens aren't coming from, you know, dimension X or whatever. A wormhole is just a shortcut between two points in our reality. If I were to represent it to you guys, I would say it's like this. That see that? This is us on this flat reality. We can't see this area up here because we're stuck on this two-dimensional flat reality. If you add an extra dimension, though, an extra dimension, then you could do this. You could connect two points. And now you could pick somebody up here and move them over here. And for anybody who's on this two-dimensional surface, they would look like they just disappeared. it would look like it just reappeared over here. That's what a wormhole is. That's what telepetition is. So all a wormhole is saying is that there is an extra dimension that we don't perceive a shortcut. It would mean that all points are actually connected. All points in space and time are connected through an extra dimension. We just don't have the ability to perceive it. So, to answer your question, it means the plane could theoretically be anywhere, anywhere in the entire universe. However, I'm a guy that follows the evidence. I'm People think I'm a conspiracy theorist, but I'm actually just a skeptic that has been swayed by one very powerful case. We found debris. We found debris from the plane. There's serial numbers on it, >> right? >> I to me, that's compelling evidence. I can't just throw that out. But where did we find it? We found it in Africa. They're searching off the coast of Australia. That's thousands of kilometers away. That's like saying, "Oh, well, plane crashed off the coast of New York, but we're finding debris in California, >> right?" >> You're like, "Wait, what?" You know how far away that is? How did it get there? Oh, well, it just, you know, it floated. It got on a train. >> They did find that they did find that debris what, like six or seven years after MH370. >> No, it was about one to two years later. But still, the point being it was probably on the the beach for a while. It didn't just get there and they found it immediately. Like that no one was even looking there because no one even everyone's looking off the coast of Australia because they think this plane went into the South Indian Ocean. But the videos tell us what really happened. The plane never turned south into the South Indian Ocean. We're watching it in the Nicabar Islands. This is the location where the narrative that's been told to the public or at least been sold to us is the plane took a sharp south turn and flew for like 5 and a half hours and then just ran out of fuel and crashed into the South Indian Ocean. And we've been searching there for 12 years, including they just finished the search like a week ago. Nothing. They've never found anything down there, but they're sure it's down there somewhere. Well, here's a simpler answer. It disappears in the Nicabar Islands 5 hours north of there. and it's going west. How do I know that? Well, if we slow down the MH370 video, you can actually see the reflection of the plane, the tail of the plane in that first frame when this plane starts to disappear and it's pulled a little bit back from the frame beforehand. Also, when you start learning about electromagnetics, you learn about something called the right-hand rule. And what this means is, long story short, the direction the orbs are spinning around the plane is going to determine the vector of force. So the reason why they're spinning around the plane vertically like that is because there's a specific purpose. If you could just teleport something anywhere with no restriction, those orbs could be spinning on any axis around the plane and then it just converges and then the plane just appears wherever you want. The reason why they're not, the reason why they're spinning exactly vertical to the direction of the plane is because they're going to send that plane backwards and when the plane comes out, it's still going to be flying the same speed and they don't want to like, you know, rip it to shreds. They're intentionally trying to move that plane from one location to the next. And what that means too then is that how does this work? It's got to be like equivalent to a hypergate system in Sci-Fi where you have to have something set up on either side. You say, "Here's where it's disappearing. We got these orbs." And you got to have it connected somehow to something else. Quantum entanglement, whatever you want to call it, that connects this threads the needle between our spacetime. And this also means that it's not going to be like a portal where it's not like Stargate where you open up the portal and it's just open and now it's a bridge between the two sides. It's it's a one-way hop. You hop on that side, now you're on the other side. If you want to do it again, you got to do another oneway hop. It's not going to stay. that portal is not staying open. So, does that kind of answer your question? >> Yeah. So, you think that that plane arrived intact somewhere else near Africa? That's what you're saying. >> I think it came out the other side intact, but it could have come out also. It could have come out in pieces because we found parts of the pieces in the plane. There's this is the part where obviously was very speculative. I think it came out somewhere near the Malds >> and then there were some islanders that have a very credible sighting that say they saw the plane and there were like 15 different people and you know people have tried to dismiss this sighting but when I'm looking I'm going this actually fits with our story especially if you can start really cheating with this teleportation and make the plane come out like slightly delayed in the future but we don't need to dig into all that but point being plane shows up in Maldes people see it in the sky and they see it flying towards Diego Garcia military base south. So what happens? Maybe the plane crashes. They they ditch it in the water somewhere near there and that's why a couple pieces float up and they find it in Africa or plane lands in Diego Garcia. They take it apart somewhere there and a few pieces they throw a few pieces in the water or a few pieces fall off of it. The plane was on fire so you know a few pieces could fall off of this or they're also teleporting it. So, it's hard to say exactly what occurred, but I don't think anybody was alive. I think that the fire probably incapacitated everyone on the plane well before they even got to the point where this plane's getting zapped out of the sky. And I think the overall reason why they did this is some weird CIA intelligence espionage thing with China that they're in some kind of like secret covert war over this technology that may be from aliens or what have you. And basically whoever got there first wins. And I think we got there first and we won. And this is this is the outcome. Now we just basically use orbs to exert our will over our adversaries. And and that's one of the conspiracies, right, that there were people on board, there was technology on board, there was going to be a transfer of information from people there on that plane to somebody in China, and that's allegedly why they decided to take that out. I just don't understand why they wouldn't choose a more conventional means to take out the plane that would give them more um plausible deniability. Well, so let's explore that for a second because that's obviously the number one thing. In fact, there's this guy Joseph Frell and it's wild. Like three days after playing disappear, he does this interview and he nails everything. He's like, he even mentions the US using a super weapon to teleport the plane. And I'm listening to this 10 years later going, "Holy crap." But I talked to him, it turns out he just guessed just guessed that. But he also says the reason why he didn't go all in on his theory was he's like, "Why? Why teleport a plane though? just hit it with a missile if you need to do that. Well, I think the answer is pretty obvious because the point isn't to destroy the plane. Those people are working for us. They're working for one of our defense contractors. Like maybe we were trying to keep them, retain them. Maybe they're slaving away at Diego Garcia right now. In fact, there was some Facebook photos in 2020. This was even before I started researching, but we dug up every piece of evidence that's out there. I mean, I would throw my knowledge of the plane up there with basically anybody at this point. But anyway, people found photos of people on Diego Garcia that look just like a lot of the crew members who were on the plane. And I'm not, you know, I don't put a lot of stock in that. That's why you don't see me post about it that much. >> Sure. >> But you think about what would you do if there were people that were alive and there's only a few options. Either you're living the rest of your life on Diego Garcia and nobody's ever allowed to see you again or you're in witness protection probably or you're dead. Those are the only things I can imagine that you would do. And I don't see anybody coming out being like, I'm the survivor of MH370, so you know, I don't want to give people false hope, but if people want to know where where would I search for the plane, I would be searching in the waters near Diego Garcia because you're like not allowed to go anywhere near there. If I was to I would not want to land a Boeing trip 7 on a military base where a bunch of people are going to see it. I'd probably just want to ditch it in the water somewhere where nobody's allowed to go and search it and make sure it goes under and no the plane doesn't come apart so that no pieces or bodies come floating up because people are going to start to wonder bodies start coming up what's going on. >> So your theory is like hey they didn't want to just destroy the people in the plane. They wanted to intercept it and either actually intercept the the people and or the technology that was being carried on that plane. >> Yeah. I and it might even be more sick than that honestly. Like this is the part where I just I was a public guy that is like just a normie, right? I was playing to live my life as a middle manager and what have you and now I'm realizing that the CIA is willing to do these crazy operations. It's hard to even put my headsp space in what they're thinking, but this might just all have been a show like they to your question of why not just use a missile because they wanted China to know. They wanted China to know that we're better than them and we got technology that's better than them. They just don't want them to know exactly what it is. Like it's a fine line between we wanted China to know that we got something that can teleport a plane versus we wanted China to see those videos, right? Because those videos don't just tell you that we can teleport a plane. They show you exactly how we're teleporting the plane. Like if I can figure out how the science and stuff works in those videos, China's best scientists and what have you, they probably cracked it years ago. In fact, I even go so far as to argue the reason why you're seeing the push right now for AI and fusion is because China knows a neutronic fusion is the way because they know those videos are real and they're thinking in their head, oh, we can push past America by publicly investing everything into fusion and these things that we know work while America is still covering it up and hiding it from their public so that they don't get to know about it. And that's why you're seeing Trump Media Group acquire Trial Alpha Energy, the oldest fusion company. That happened like a month ago. This is why you're seeing this happen is that now Trump and his administration, who's in the no, they're aware of this technology. They're going, "Oh crap, we can't let China get to this first. Now we've got to start letting some of it out because I'll remind you those videos now are 12 years old." 12 years. So if we had wormhole technology, we had it over 12 years ago. And Nick Fuentes was saying in his response on my super chat to him, he said,"Why not just use an why not test it with an apple first? Why not throw an apple in your wormhole?" And this is like kind of shows the naive of some of these people, which is you really think that's the first time we use that those orbs on that. It's like, "Yes, we were testing it out on the Boeing 77 in our covert operation." It's like, no, man. I promise you we used it on Apple probably in the 1970s, right? The fact that we're using on a Boeing trip 7 in 2014 means that this ain't our first rodeo. >> So this wasn't a test. This was an operation. >> Exactly. And so if I would I'll So I'll throw the ball back into your court on this because how does this then connect to the UFO phenomenon? Well, here you go. This is where now I become super suspicious of all these UFO people because I'm just handing them all the answers on a silver platter. Now, not the answers about aliens. I truly even to this point I don't know where this technology comes from is the truth for you. But everything else I say, oh look, we're looking at Air Force MQ9 Reaper drones, right? Those are and they're also by made by General Atomics. I'm looking at a Northrup Grumman Lightning G4. That's our defense contractor. I'm looking at Gorgon Stair wide area motion imagery from another MQ9 and that's made by Sierra Nevada Corporation, another defense contractor. Now, this is a little bit more speculative, but we're looking at plasma orbs that are fusion reactors. There's only one company that already has a fusion reactor built. It's Loheed Martin, and it went dark in like 2017, 2018, something like that. So, I'm going to say I'm fairly confident that's Loheed Martin affiliated orbs. But point being, oh, and the last part, who has the charter for fusion? The Department of Energy. So, who have I just implicated? The Air Force, the Department of Energy, the defense contractors, and the CIA running the operation because it's an operation be done against, you know, a Malaysian airline or what have you. Well, those are the exact same four groups that make up the program, the UFO reverse engineering programs that these people are talking about. all the time. >> The exact groups they say do it. >> So my question to you, I guess, is what do you think about that idea? Because to me, this implies that at a bare minimum, they're using the alien topic to distract from this shadow war, techn technological war, whatever you want to call it, over like supremacy over this technology. And at worst, they just made up the whole alien thing to cover it up entirely. Well, I mean what we see there is very different than I think we've seen. Not only that has been reported visually and in some videos, some pictures. I mean, you're talking about plasma versus actual physical aircraft. So, I I do think there's a divergence of technology there that I that that makes sense to me. So, I don't know if those two things are necessarily the same. They're probably related. Um, I mean that's that's really the only thing that I can conclude. I mean there is clear evidence of actual physical crafts. I believe um >> Oh, so here's the thing I want to point out is that and this is a misconception I think people have. A lot of people think that plasma is just like a hologram or an illusion or that when we make these plasma balls that we're using this as like a decoy and countermeasures which you can use it for that absolutely but these are these are physical crafts that we're looking at. And what they've done is they've incorporated this fusion reaction into their hypersonics. In fact, you could argue what you're looking at there is a hypersonic drone. All they've done is take out the turbo jet engine and they've turned it into a scramjet, which basically means you take out the propellers on the inside and now it's just a tube. >> And now it becomes an air breathing device that turns the air into plasma. They just shoot a laser in front of it. Turns the air into plasma. Compress. >> You think those are actual physical drones, not just balls of plasma? >> Yeah, there's a physical object in there. I'm sure. I'm sure some people are trying to argue that it's just like a manifestation of plasma and a geometry form, but there's there's intelligent control happening there. So, there's at least a computer inside of that. So, there is an object inside for sure in my opinion. And I think that they just incorporated fusion that they solved maybe even back in the 70s into our hypersonic craft. And I think we're even going to start seeing this will be probably one of the first things we start seeing. We're going to see fusion propulsion. This is what the UFOs are using. They're using what's the energy source of your flying saucer that's hovering around to find physics. If you do the math on the energy that would be required for that, it becomes astronomical very very quickly. Like even you probably know like our fighter jets and stuff their their um air time or whatever you call it is like 45 minutes, hour, >> right? >> So when we look at these UFOs, they're even just hovering around. We take this huge amount of energy. So the answer for the UFO people, number one, what's the energy source? It's it's fusion. That's the big secret. This is why the reason why the Department of Energy and the Air Force coming up. Here's another angle on the crash retrieval thing. What if all this crash retrieval talk where they're saying, "Oh, well, this UFO crash, we have to go pick it up in Brazil before they get it." What if this is like Broken Arrow situation where we've lost our nuclear weapon, right? and we can't let anybody else get it. Like one of these orbs malfunctions and crashes down and we got to have a a retrieval team to go pick it up so that some, you know, adversary doesn't get our secret technology, you know. Couldn't that be another angle to the, you know, the whole reverse engineering crash retrieval thing? Yeah, I think there's lots I think there's lots of different ways from a propaganda standpoint that that you can use the UFO phenomena and or you know back and forth for convenience to either hide, confuse or obuscate different operations, >> you know, when you start getting into, you know, what's your thoughts on um encounters of the third kind where we're talking about uh things like the Virginia incident where people have not only seen these actual crafts, but now they're seeing actual beans. Do you do you buy into that? Do you think those have any validity? Because that definitely adds a whole another level of >> I don't know complication when if we're just saying, hey, this is just this is just us advanced physics technology compared to, you know, something that is extraterrestrial. >> Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, my view on aliens is pretty nuanced. one side I say I don't care at all. Like aliens, unless they're impacting my daily life, that makes no difference to me, right? Like what does it matter? And when they announce aliens, which I think Trump is going to end up doing here probably in the next couple years, I think he wants to get credit for that. He's going to say, "Yeah, there's alien life out there." He's going to say, "We've detected. We can't talk about it, but we've detected it." And I think people are just going to move on right away. Like it's just not a big deal. Doesn't really matter. But the other side of it is uh you know they I think that every kind of alien can exist. You know I have no problem with people saying that these aliens that are out there. It's just that that's not the important factor. The important factor is the technology that would change our life. How would that alien actually get here? Unless they're already in the ocean or something like that, which are certainly explanations. So for me, I don't care where the where the technology came from. makes no difference whatsoever. Could come from uh you know the thick whites or the uh crab people underneath the oceans or what have you. Um and that was probably one of the most radicalizing parts for me is learning that this technology wormhole technology which I thought was just science fiction before all this is actually real. That revelation to me is so mind-blowing that it just dwarfs the idea that oh the little ET is going to come over here, right? Like, okay, bro, I I don't care. Just give me the warp drives. Give me the wormholes. Let me get out of here because it tells me the universe is a lot bigger place than the what we're getting sold. You know, like Neil Degrass Tyson, I think I was just watching a clip where he's going there's we're never going to get to another planet. The aliens could never get here. Everything's too far away. like they're so condescending about it. And it turns out there's just like a loophole that makes it completely realistic and possible. You're like, "Okay, yeah, this is this is a lie. This whole world's a lie." >> That's the same science guy that believes that anybody can be, you know, there's a spect spectrum of genders and boys should be able to play in girls sports and vice versa. So, >> oh, and can I rant on that for a second, too? Because >> feel free. >> I call the disclosure movements out there woke disclosure. And even the physicists, I I do dislike them. I have a feud against all of them right now cuz what I've learned on this too is that there's weirdly a political aspect to this that I never ever expected. I've got people out here that like you said think there's like 37 genders or they got to get 27 COVID shots or they're going to die or what have you. And and those people at the same time like think the aliens are visiting us but they'll go no it's it's you it's crazy that you think a wormhole is possible. I'm going I'm going okay man. Like, but wormls are like actual mathematical solutions to Einstein. We just haven't seen them. That's the only thing, you know. So, >> it's tough out there. >> At least at least one falls under some category of science and is theoretically possible. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, there's there as far as I can tell, science says there's only two genders. Science also says wormholes are theoretically at least possible, but they act like it's all science fiction. And I think though this speaks to a broader possible like brainwashing that maybe has been going on for a long time to get us to ridicule these topics, to not take them seriously, to not discuss them because I think once we start to discuss it, it becomes a lot more obvious that there really is something here. And even normal everyday Americans like us can figure it out and understand it. Meanwhile, they want us to think that we got to go to Neil Degos Tyson to get our opinion about what's possible in physics. And and those Neil Gos Tyson is not the guy building these orbs. He's not the guy writing the papers that are allowing that stuff to happen. It's other engineers and scientists that are working for Loheed Martin, working for Boeing, working for Northrup, working for Rathon, these defense contracts that are doing that stuff. >> No, no, for sure. the um what what do you think about Bob Lazar story? That's always I remember watching that when it first aired as a kid in like 88 or ' 89 somewhere around there. I I don't remember exactly. Somewhere in that time period, maybe it was 90. >> Isn't it cool how or interesting how he got way more credibility like 25 years later? He came out like late >> 80s. The things that he said that just like we're talking about everybody was saying that's crazy. That doesn't exist. There's no way that like later on like element 115 like he said, "Hey, you know what? This is element 115. This is what what we're using what they're using to power these these gravitational engines." And come to find out, a lot of these things like element 115 was later confirmed to be true, as well as many of the things that the S3 site was later confirmed to be true. they all wrote him off as a whack job just trying to come up with some story and try to get get famous when a lot of the stuff he's confirmed has been confirmed you know post tense and then you know the crazy thing too is like I remember watching that and I've rewatched that interview uh multiple times and then some of his uh later stuff with Jeremy >> Corbel >> I mean the dude's been pretty consistent throughout the years >> so I've watched his stuff And I I like to think I'm a pretty good judge of someone who's being honest and open whether or not they you know maybe they they're lying to themselves but like that you know you can tell they're being genuine and Bob Lazar has never given me a vibe that he was lying about his story. He's been very consistent about it. He had he did get debunked by Stanton Freriedman, but I you know you look at these debunkings too and I think you can learn a lot from the Bob Lazar case about how it's more of a psychological human condition situation where we don't want to believe something. We look for a reason to dismiss it. And I think that's what we did with Bob Lazar. We said I don't want to believe his story. So I'm going to look for something that you know look through his past, look through his education history. Maybe he embellished his education history. It's still unclear to me exactly, >> right? >> Um >> but that doesn't mean his story isn't true. And the part that people I think don't understand, they thought, well, this guy's some random engineer that made a rocket car, so why would he be working at Los Alamos under uh EG&G? But what they don't that's how it works. They don't hire the Neil Degrasse Tyson's. They hire the people that are the engineers that are thinking outside the box because you take a Neil Degrass Tyson and you throw him show him a UFO, he's gonna have a mental breakdown. He's not going to know how to do anything with that. You show somebody like Bob Lazar though and it's going to intrigue him. He's going to think about it. And Bob Lazar even said to Joe Rogan, he said he was asked, "Would you do it again if given the opportunity? Would you still, you know, go public with everything you did?" He said, "Nope, never." He said, "If I could do it again, I got to work with magical technology." He's like, "I would I wouldn't come out and do that again." And instead, he came out and he got like discredited, his life ruined, everything about it. But now, like you said, 25 years later, suddenly now the stuff he's saying is not it's not faux anymore. It's uh it's allowed to be talked about. And a lot of the stuff seems to be true, including the way he describes warp travel. He says, "These three gravity generators lock onto a point and they squeeze together and that pulls the spacetime towards them." Now, this is where I tell people, especially because I'm, you know, just self-taught, is that just because someone doesn't say it exactly like a PhD physicist is going to say it, doesn't mean they don't know what they're talking about. >> Conceptually, his view perspective of how it works is is right. They could have a practical they can have a practical understanding of the science and not necessarily a technical way to speak about it. >> Exactly. And here's something that I'll tell you that I've only said a couple times, but I spoke to a reporter that wanted to know about zero point energy and stuff like that and they were able to get in touch with Bob Lazar and they told me I got permission to say this that uh Bob Lazar thought 0 energy is all [ __ ] And this is f crazy to me because you start to realize like how dysfunctional we are. The guy that's like revealing the technology, one of the first OGs to reveal put Area 51 on the map. He doesn't even realize that like zero point energy is is the answer for how what he's describing and how that works. Because like I said, his conceptual viewpoint may be slightly different, but he still can know what we can what's possible, what we can do. So it goes to show you several things. One, even very smart people can miss the mark. Even very smart people can be brainwashed into ridiculing something that is possibly very real. And this is how and why they've been able to keep this secret for so long because like I was saying before, they didn't start with a Boeing trip 7. This has been >> people within the same field, and we see this all the time, can also have differing viewpoints on certain things. And that that's that's that's where things get a little bit messy is like there's when people get in their own little camps within the same I don't care if you're talking about conspiracy theories there's UFOs there's not UFOs like immediately those two people start uh you know [ __ ] on each other trying to undermine their credibility one way or the other. I mean, that just happens. And that's going to happen in science. It happens in I don't care if you're talking about shooting sports, every industry. Like, there are those people out there within their own little camps. And it's it's it's natural tribalism. I think a lot of it. Hey folks, just for uh giggles and I see a lot of I don't know opinions over there on Bob Lazar. I just posted a poll. Uh real simple. Do you think Bob Lazar is legit or not? Go hit that poll on our YouTube page. I want to hear from you guys. I'm curious to see where Bob Lazar is 35 years later in people's headsp space. Do you believe him? Do you think he was right? Uh do you think he's being honest? And you don't have to believe that he's gotten everything right. Just do you believe that Bob Lazar was telling the truth as he sees it? That's kind of what I want to hear and hear from that. The other thing I would highly recommend for you guys to watch if you haven't seen before is uh The Moment of Contact. There's a couple other great UFO alien contact videos out there. Um The Moment of Contact, I highly recommend if you haven't seen that. It is about the Virginia incident. >> Um go check that out. I think it's I thought it was a really good and compelling and interesting whether you believe it or not um documentary. So sometime at some point check that out for sure. I think it's uh if nothing else it's a lot of fun to watch. >> My kids love it. >> Yeah, if I could throw in there I would say the Age of Disclosure was pretty good for getting a high level understanding of this. Now first thing you're going to realize when you watch a lot of these movies it's all the same people. It's all the same people every time and they keep doing the same movie over um you know for example Hal Pudof Eric Davis are two of the engineers that are these black project engineers that you know they probably go on the weekend work at Loheed Martin's secret lab or what have you. >> Yeah. >> And I've read all their papers and these are the guys that either they're building it directly or these are the guys that they showed the UFOs to and they were like hey figure out how this works. Like there's no other there's no other option involved here. And it kind of blows me away that I'm the guy putting those pieces together because Eric Davis is whistleblowing talking to Anapina Luna in these UFO hearings. And in my mind, I'm I'm wondering why they're asking how many races of aliens exist when I'm going, why aren't you asking him about his teleportation physics study paper that he wrote for the Air Force Research Labs? Like that's why he was pulled into the It wasn't because he knows about the blue aliens. He was pulled in because the guy's the world's leading expert on warp drives and wormholes. So, this is where I just kind of like, you know, I was saying before, everything's kind of on a silver platter. The alien people want to know, you know, the people that are getting abducted or have exp they call experiencers. You know, I'm not personally one, but I I sympathize towards people that have traumatic experiences. They want to know how are the aliens getting here, you know? Well, there's your answer. Wormholes. And Annapolina Luna is even saying the aliens are interdimensional. But this is kind of a scop, too, because it makes you think, uhoh, the alien's going to come out from the extra dimension, right? And he's going to be this evil monster. But really, what they're saying there is that the alien's just coming from some far away place, and it's just hopping through like a shortcut through our spaceime, through an extra dimension again to just appear here. >> Right? >> But at the same time, here's the big rub from all this, the big takeaway for you. If we have teleportation technology and this fusion technology that represents free energy, you may say, "Well, Ashton, why? I mean, I was told thermodynamics, what have you." Well, because just I'll give you a very simple practical example. Imagine I were to convert my phone here, this mass of this phone into energy. It would be a huge amount of energy, right? And the problem is I want to run this energy. I want you to run this energy. The problem is this energy is over here and I need to get this energy over to you over, you know, where wherever you are. And in doing that, we're going to lose a lot of it. We got to use a lot of it up to move it from one location to the other. >> With teleportation, we're basically saying, here's a whole bunch of energy and I'm just passing it to you and now you can use it the exact same amount without any losses whatsoever. Transfer energy from anywhere. So, in a sense, that's a form of free energy where you can and if you especially if you can do it at a very low cost, which is what seems like it's happening in MH370 videos because we're not seeing the planet get blown away. So, what here's the takeaway. If you have free energy, if you can materialize energy out of the vacuum, out of nothingness, if you can do alchemy and create elements, which is what fusion allows us to do, why do I need to go to any other world at all ever? Everything I could ever need is right here in front of me in this volume of empty space. And I can make materials, water, air, anything I ever need, gold, anything can be produced. And we will be able to produce Star Trek replicators in the future that do that for us. So my perspective shift for you all. People wonder, why aren't we seeing this? Why aren't the aliens coming here? Why aren't they visiting us saying that we want to talk to your leader? because they don't care about us. We're primitive ants compared to them technologically and they have everything. They don't even need our resources because they have unlimited resources out there. What do you think about that thought? >> Well, I think if you're saying, hey, you know what? Why would they come here if they had unlimited resources and energy and technology? I think there's a like for instance, right now, this is a a great example. you're really interested in the technology of this, the wormholes. And I'm like, I just want to know if there's freaking aliens and if I can own a if I can own a freaking UFO one day. Like I I just think that we're naturally going to have different interests. And I think no matter how much energy, no matter how much technology, no matter how many resources that we have in one planet, I don't think the desire to explore >> will necessarily ever leave us. So, you know, if I can, now I have this unlimited energy and I can build this technology. Now, I want to know what Alpha Centauri looks like. So, now I can go there and I can get there almost immediately just using a wormhole that's very accessible to us. So, not only is does the does the does the technology provide that capability, but it allows me to do it very easily. And then of course I think no matter how advanced a society gets, you know, there's going to be scientists that are, you know, uh, into things like anthropology, trying to understand how more primitive, uh, societies develop. And I think, you know, I I don't think one excludes the other necessarily. >> Well, let me throw this at you, though. Would you go personally or would you just send a drone? Right? you would just send a drone, have it scan everything and then you see or maybe you do the avatar body thing, but you know, it depends on how advanced you are, >> but you would just send a drone there, right? You don't need to go there because you don't breathe the air or anything like that. So, to your point, >> we may already have those technologies to actually be able to scan other planets and be able to tell there's life there because this same technology that allows for wormholes, free energy, fusion, it has other applications as well. One of those is that you can create telescopes that have resolution vastly more powerful than any telescope that we currently have. So, one of the things I would argue just from my own understanding of the technology and what is possible, there's almost no way the military intelligence community doesn't know about other civilizations if they are in fact out there. >> Sure. >> Um, yeah. You know, I mean, all those things I think all those things are in phases, right? I think it's very and it's easy for us like to pretend that I know what some alien depending on how their culture and everything else and me to project my own sensibilities wants, desires upon some alien living, you know, 300 light years away. I don't know if that works very well. I would say that is the progression of how if if we if we do project the way that we do things onto another alien species like that's how we do things. We send we send probes to Mars first and then we send, you know, these robotic rovers, but the plan is to ultimately to be able to visit and ultimately establish, you know, if you're talking to Elon, he wants to establish a colony there and, >> you know, within 20 years. So I don't know, you know, I I I don't just because they have that capability, they might have had that capability 500 years ago and now it's like, okay, so now we can visit personally without any real risk. Um, >> here's a scary let me add to that. >> What if they didn't have that technology 500 years ago? What if they had that technology a million years ago? >> Exactly. >> Or like a billion years ago. Right. I think the part of the problem is we really want to personify aliens. We want to make that we want to put our human uh you know uh feelings, impressions, everything onto the aliens. But aliens could be so advanced that we just literally can't even understand them. Aliens could be AI. Aliens could be partially biological, partially computerized. Um aliens could even be some people are expecting the plasma itself. Like we're seeing these plasma orbs. Maybe plasma can be stable long enough to develop consciousness. People already been speculating. So, I think we have to start thinking like way outside the box when it comes to advanced alien life, not just microbes and stuff like that, which I think are probably everywhere, but like actually stuff that can rival, you know, the complexity of a human being. That's one challenge I would throw at people. Another fun one is this. Did you ever watch the threebody problem? >> Oh, yeah. One of my favorite shows, folks. You haven't watched the threebody problem, go check >> spoiling it right now. Get ready. >> It's on Netflix, right? >> Yeah. But I love that because the threebody problem explains the problem of time dilation to people, especially when it comes to two different civilizations. Now, time dilation is a very important thing to understand, which means that our flow of time is based on the rock that we're on, the Earth. The more gravity there is, the slower our flow of time is relative to other planets. What this means is that if you were to take our planet and compare to another alien civilization on a different planet, our times are going to be flowing differently. Like if we were to look at each other, one of us is going to look like we're moving in slow motion and one of us is going to look like we're moving in super speed. But what this means from a practical standpoint is the one moving in super speed is evolving faster. than the one moving super slow. So in threebody problem, what this means is the aliens are trying to come visit Earth and they're super more advanced than we are as humans, but by the time they get to Earth, we've already surpassed them because we've already caught up at that point. This is something that people should think about from the cosmic perspective because all civilizations that are out there wherever they are, they're not all advancing at the same rate. They're advancing at different rates depending on the time dilation of the planet that's around them, which is a weird thing to think about. >> No, it definitely is. Well, you know, it's interesting you say that. I had never thought about it in that way, but are you familiar with the aerial school UFO event in in South Africa? Yep. >> So, what's interesting about that is, so for people that don't know, and I definitely recommend you go research that. I actually got a video pulled up. Maybe we'll play portions of that. So, all these kids have, there's like 15 20 kids. I don't know how many of them. Bunch of kids. And they all describe the same thing of UFO lands, some beans get out. But what's interesting about that is they said that they're moving in slow motion. So if you know they have a craft that's generating the same gravity as you know that they're used to and that's kind of what the implication here is is that they because they they are um they said the whole time that they were moving in what looked like slow motion. So I just think that's that's an interesting concept that I never thought about before. >> Yeah. Because what it means too is when you're using if you're making a gravitational wave you're developing artificial gravity. You're changing your flow of time. This means that any UFO that's using this field propulsion mechanism is by definition a time machine. Now this is the thing about time travel and because anyone that starts asking about teleportation first question people should be asking is can I go back in time? This is the big paradox people have when it comes to wormholes they get concerned if you have faster than light apparent travel can you have retrocausality? Can you change the past? And so I've dug into this probably more than most people on this planet. The number one expert on this idea is John Kramer of the University of Washington. And long story short, you can't go to the past. Somehow these EPR experiments, even though it should theoretically be possible, something happens. Nature steps in and collapses down the wave function is how they describe it, making it so that you cannot send information back in time. So what it means is the teleportation can only be either instantaneous or you can go to the future but you can never go what we would think of as going back to the past. So there are limits rules to how this technology works. It's not just do whatever you want. And this also speaks to what people say about they say if the aliens have these UFO technology why are they crashing? Well because this technology is not foolproof. It's got limits. It's got weaknesses. is it's got strengths. It's not just invincibility mode. And I think once people start to look at from that perspective, a lot of the questions that people have and skepticism starts to kind of crumble away. >> Well, the other speculation on that is that US launching nuclear bombs disrupts that technology and there has been some overlap with nuclear testing along with and and probably the most famously is the Roswell incident. that alleged crash was attributed to nuclear testing nearby and that's one of the things that they've talked about. Hey, just for giggles, let's there's a short video right here. Let's let's show everybody the aerial school incident. I think it's a fun video to discuss and I think it's one of the more credible sites because this was documented so well by so many people and they've even went back and uh interviewed these kids, you know, 15, 20 years later and they're still saying the same thing. Rua 1994. >> We'll see if this is the best video I could have picked or not. >> On Friday morning, September 16, 1994, the area school in rural Zimbabwe experienced a phenomenon that has since become one of the most notable incidents in UFO history. At 10:00 a.m., the children were outside playing while their teachers attended a staff meeting. A few minutes into their break, the kids noticed something unusual near the edge of their playing field, an area covered in long grass and throne bushes. Other children then described seeing a silver saucer-shaped object flying across the sky before landing near the trees. They described seeing two beings about 4t tall dress in tight black bodysuits with narrow pale faces and large black eyes that had an almost plastic appearance. Many children ran away, but some of the older kids stayed to observe as the beings moved closer. One student described their movement as bouncy, almost like they were running in slow motion or moving on the moon. The kids were just a few feet away and described the scene as glitchy, as if the craft and beings were flickering. One of the figures individually stopped directly in front of them. And in interviews, the children over and over again focused on its eyes that they found they couldn't look away from. After looking into the Bing's eyes, several children reported receiving telepathic messages. One fifth grader said that they were warned about something that's going to happen, emphasizing that pollution must not be. The only adult outside was a tax shop attendant who was soon overwhelmed by the kids' stories. They claimed to have seen three or four objects coming through the power lines and landing in the bushes. UFO investigator Cynthia Hind was one of the first to document this incident, describing it as one of the most exciting UFO stories of that or any other year. She recorded the children's testimonies which came from a diverse group of black African, Asian, and white Zimbabwean children and noted that they interpreted the event through their own cultural backgrounds. For instance, some black children thought the beings resembled or took supernatural goblins in Shauna and develop causing them to burst into tears, fearing they would be eaten. After break ended, the kids shared their experience with teachers who were skeptical. But the story spread to parents, many of whom visited the school the next day, eager to discuss it with faculty. With pressure from parents and Hind's involvement, the school asked the kids to draw what they saw. The children's drawings were strangely consistent and although they interpreted the figures differently based on their backgrounds, their descriptions of the craft and beings were remarkably similar. Hind believed that the diverse interpretations combined with similar visual accounts strengthened the validity of the story. Hines's involvement brought the story to the attention of Dr. John Mack, a Harvard psychiatrist and purely surprisewinning author known for his research on UFO sightings and alien abductions. Dr. Mark, who had even appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show, flew from the US to Zimbabwe in November to interview the children. >> We're talking today with Harvard University psychiatrist John Mack, who studied the cases of about 100 people at least who claimed that they've been abducted by aliens. While some teachers and parents were skeptical, he was able to convince them not to dismiss the children's experience as lies. Me was intrigued by the environmental warnings the children reported, similar to the messages given to other so-called experiences that he had studied. >> Now, if these are real experiences, what is going on? What's the source of these experience? That's >> an interesting that's a question. What's going on? >> The days and weeks following brought additional witness accounts. A local woman reported seeing an orange glow over her chicken run. >> I just uh saw a glow over my chicken run. A very orange glow. >> And in Kariba, a man claimed to see a glowing object transforming into two orange red balls in the sky. >> Can you just tell us what happened the other night at Kariba? >> We suddenly looked up and we saw this thing coming over the top of the hill. But then one thing we noticed about it was the lack of sound. In total, I would say about 14 people saw this in our >> All right, Ashton. So, I mean, that's uh pretty consistent with some of the more credible UFO accounts. What do you make of that? How do you think that that plays into everything else that you've talked about? >> Yeah, people probably don't know or even remember because it was so long. It was early in investigation. I actually spoke to one of the aerial school investigators. He was on one of my ex spaces. uh still remember it like it was yesterday because I that was one of the first UFO ls that I kind of looked into. I like I said I didn't really know much about the UFO topic or lore and I found it to be really credible because like you said the kids still are now they're now adults and they all stick to their story and it was a lot of kids that saw this event that happened. So if you do believe that aliens are visiting us or what have you to me that's one of the best stories out there. Now, at the same time, you can't really given the context of the technology that we now know about and that I've been talking about here, you can't really definitively say was that, you know, humans in a suit or was it aliens? Like, they say they look they were very small. So, hard to say on that front, but yes, I think there are several cases that are very compelling. The problem has always been that there's always been some way to very easily dismiss them. This is why the MH370 situation is so unique is that it's not just videos of a fuzzy light. It's not just one video. It's multiple. And there's a realworld event. There's a real missing plane. Still to this day, that plane is still missing. And so, you've got this overwhelmingly compelling story that also has evidence with it. If those aerial school kids, if that happened in 2025 and all those kids had their smartphones and they were recording it, we might have straight up catastrophic disclosure right now, right? But unfortunately, we don't. And that's why when people ask me like, "Well, Ashton, are these orbs the same orbs as the Foo Fighters?" I don't know, man. That was like the 20s or 30s or 40s, whenever the Foo Fighters was. I I don't how we know. We don't have footage and stuff like that from back then, >> you know. >> No, that's uh that's pretty interesting. Somebody was bringing up, I don't know that I've heard about this, but the uh Westall UFO Australia experience. Um, just for giggles, there's here's a quick threeminute video. Let's uh let's play this to see what it has to say on that. I'm here with Graeme Whitehead, the city historian at the city of Kingston. We're we're sitting in his office here down at Partell Library. And Graham is after telling me that there was a UFO um spotted in the city of Kingston in 1966, which I find it difficult to believe, but tell us the story, Graham. >> Well, it it wasn't the city of Kingston then, of course. It was a former municipality, but the story is that some students from West High School saw this UFO. >> Yeah. >> And they believed it landed in the Grange. So they saw it >> or at least it hovered in the ground. It may not have actually landed but they saw it there and this created a tremendous amount of excitement at the school >> and there are a lot of mysteries about it now. Yeah. >> People swear that it happened. Other people are skeptical. >> So how many people actually saw the UFO? >> I'm not sure the actual number. Um but there were you know a substantial number of students who saw it would say they saw it. >> Yeah. >> Uh this thing in the sky and they had descriptions for it. But the interesting thing was uh that the principal of the school clamped it all down. And this principal was uh Frank Sambleby and he taught me at school. >> Okay. >> So I I can remember him well. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, so was it seen in the middle of the night or the middle of the day? >> It was in the middle of the day. >> Okay. >> The students were out outside in the in the grounds. There was a fizzed lesson going on. Um, so and then the rumor about it or the story about it spread like wildflower through the food. >> Was Moraban airport around at the time on any of the >> Yes, Moraban airport was there and that was one of the theories that was put forward. It was just a plane from Araban airport that they saw. No, they said it was nothing like an airplane. Nothing like an airplane. And but people explored at the airport to say, "Were there planes in the air at that time?" No. So, you know, they >> Yeah, >> the skeptics were saying all these various things and people were knocking them down. >> So, what did this flying saucer look like? Any accurate descriptions? Well, they yes, they did talk about it as being a silver object and round and just the normal UFO sort of story that we we hear about today. >> And I believe uh this group got together again recently or in the last 12 months to >> Yes. Uh >> and they're still sticking with the story. >> I think it was a couple of years ago that they had a reunion uh over at the Graange where this landing took place and they were very strong about the story. They are quite definite that it happened and they what they saw they're sticking to that story. >> You know, one of the biggest questions I always have when it comes to UFOs is if they have so much technology, how do they just kind of slip up and allow us to see them? I think that is a very >> good question. >> Good question and criticism of all of it. >> Yeah. So, I'll answer part of that. Number one, they should be able to be invisible. No question. They should be if any alien civilization's million years more advanced than us, they're going to be able to be perfectly cloaked anywhere they go. One of those defense intelligence reference documents, the derds, I recommend people check them out, read them. They were declassified in like 2017. It's all about cloaking. And it basically starts at the most basic level of cloaking to get to the most advanced. When you get to the most advanced, it's actually just space-time manipulation. Warping space light all the way around you with space-time manipul. Bending the light like a black hole. They say that's the best form of cloaking. I'm >> real quick. You said the durge. Spell that for me. >> Defense intelligence reference documents. D I R Ds. >> Okay. >> Yep. The defense intelligence reference documents. Hal Pudof talked about them on his Joe Rogan appearance uh last year. And uh they are papers that include things such as high-owered lasers, a neutronic fusion propulsion, warp drives, traversible wormholes extracting quantum energy. all of these concepts that Hal Pudof is the one that through the Defense Intelligence Agency got these commissioned and the idea was he went to his best his black project program engineers and physicist friends and he said write up these papers about these topics that are breakthrough technologies that will be available by 2025 or 2050 like in this next time period and they wrote them and when you read them you I don't know how anybody body that's in the UFO community can't just go, "Oh, here's the UFO technology." Because it's pretty clear that that's what these all add up to. High powered lasers, fusion propulsion, all this stuff. Um, and this, in my opinion, at least directly connects these people like Hal Pudof and Eric Davis to the program to the Department of Energy, the Air Force, and they're writing papers for these people, too. So, that's where I think that's being hidden. >> One more thing I want to talk about real quick. So before I forget >> is the the fusion bomb thing. >> I don't think a lot of people know this story, but there's a man named Ferris Williams. Ph a r i s. Ferris Williams. He was a Navy guy and he was also a physicist. He he never got a PhD and he was never restricted by academia to just only study what you want to study. And he found out that the thermonuclear weapons calculations were off. not off by a little bit, off by 50%. As in the calculations in the books were 50% too low. The the real yield was 150% of what was being calculated. And you would say that's insane. There's no way a random guy corrected our thermonuclear weapons calculations. But not only did he do it, it eventually led to a big enough stink that there was a whole tribunal about it where he went up against the Navy's top scientists and he was able to convince them just using a calculator that he was right. And I just think about this story and and this isn't a myth or anything. You got Oak Shannon of Lawrence Livermore telling this. This is his best friend uh Ferris Williams he calls him and he's just telling this story about and you're like okay first question how did he figure what what was it that he figured out that is you know how do you 50% difference is a huge amount the answer is it's classified nobody knows to this day nobody knows so here you go I say okay that's I'm an investigator that's not I'm not satisfied with that So all you have to do is learn about the guy. Turns out Oak Shannon says he was his best friend. He says Ferris Williams after he figured out that these guys were all wrong on the math for nuclear weapons, he decided that the experts, the academics, they must be completely off about physics. There must be something fundamentally wrong with our what we're doing to teach physics. So he came up with his own theory called the dynamic theory and the only major difference between his theory and everybody else's understanding of you know relativity and everything is he added an extra dimension. It's called the fivedimensional approach. So instead of just up down left right forward back in time he added one more dimension for mass density. And this is relevant for thermonuclear weapons because in a fusion bomb, we're trying to make a black hole. Basically, we're trying to squish down this material as much as we can. And so you' say, well, wait a minute. Ferris Williams says he corrected the thermonuclear weapon calculations and he added an extra dimension and that extra dimension is mass density. This is exactly also what you need to make a gravitational wave. So I look at this and I go, "Oh boy." Like this guy figured out there was an extra dimension. That's why the calculations were so far off. And then the government just shut that all down, silenced all that. He's never allowed to get famous off of figuring that all out. And instead, they just give him some contracts, a bunch of NDAs. All goes dark. And this would imply that there's this whole bunch of excess energy. Maybe a fusion bomb really is able to make a black may make a wormhole or a black hole. Or maybe a black hole is a wormhole for all we know. So, I just wanted to throw that little lore out there for you. True story, by the way. >> No, that's that's pretty interesting. So, you you kind of it sounds like you're kind of under the assumption that like, hey, this is just secret secret government tech, >> not necessarily extraterrest extraterrestrial tech. >> I'm open to both sides of it. Like if you were to ask me who do I think in the UFO community is most right, it's going to be probably Dr. Steven Greer because he's basically saying, yeah, there's this alien origin like we figured this technology out and maybe that spurred our technological advancement, but he's saying we're also building our own versions of this and we've got most of what you're seeing out there is us because maybe the aliens don't need to visit us, right? And what this is what I would say, this is actually another angle I wanted to go into, is that I think there's a lot of people that are out there that are seeing stuff that is man-made, but that's being misidentified as aliens because they don't have a frame of reference. I could even see it happening in the NSA that like people are in the NSA, you're an intelligence officer in NSA, but you're low level and you're watching some surveillance and you see those orbs, you would be like, "Whoa, there's the aliens. There's proof of aliens. That's not human." But you would have no idea that we've got black projects and unagnowledged special access programs that are working on that kind of stuff. And you might not understand the physics either. So to me, I could see how it would be very easy for that to develop. However, I'm totally open to the idea of aliens being real. And my own world view or universe view is that life is everywhere. That there's bacterial life everywhere. And that advanced life is given enough time is going to advance. It's going to be we're going to find life, I think, everywhere. like the moment we stop looking for electromagnetic signals and start looking for gravitational signals or I think the whole universe is personally going to light up. But my question this is my question to you. What would it mean to you? Because I think you are a guy that you know you you want you want you know alien maybe you want aliens to be real or you want there to you know you'll be excited by them being real. What would it mean to you? How would it change your life or what would you want to have happen if Trump comes out and says, "Yep, Gary, aliens are real, man. They're out there and there's a lot of them." Oh, I don't know that it would uh I think it's I think like a lot of people, I just hate government secrecy on such a big topic. I think that is information that if if they're holding on to that information, that is information that they should give uh the entire planet. And you know, Hal Putoff talked about this about disclosing, right? So he talked about the fact that that he sat around in a room with a bunch of really smart guys that were well informed on this topic and they went around and tried to make a decision of whether or not they should disclose this information. And so they started to come up with pros and cons and because the cons of the negative downsides of disclosing that information that hey there is life out there, they decided to continue to withhold and not disclose that information. So I think it's a matter of truth for me. Uh I would I would find it very interesting. I would also find it very interesting for those of us that are religious to how to reconcile all of that information. But it to me I don't think it also feels like whether we're talking about the government, the media, like it feels like we're getting conditioned to be more accepting of that. And I just see that trajectory and I don't and I feel like that is intentional, right? So I feel like it's coming. That disclosure is coming and you know I think most of the world already believes that. As a matter of fact, folks, I I put a p another poll up. I had it linked in the description there or actually in the comments um of whether or not you believe that UFOs were extraterrestrial technology and or uh secret government technology. So, I'd be interested to see what you have to say about that. I do want to say, which probably about what I expected. Uh, we got 40 votes. Is Bob Lazar legit? 70% say yes, 30% say no. You got additional time to go and uh give your vote on that. Uh, almost opposite so far. UFOs, extraterrestrial, or secret government tech. 40% of you say it's ET. Basically, 60% of you say it's secret government tech. So, that's a >> minds I'm changing minds out here. >> That's a a weird ship there. >> Uh, let me ask you because you brought up a great story right there. The Hal Pudof disclosure story. One of the most important stories that I think anybody interested in UFOs can tell because I I would argue that you answered your own question right there. Howal Pudof gets pulled in. It was like the early 2000s, so under Bush or something like that. Pull in a bunch of old white dudes, most likely. I'm not trying to be, you know, virtue signal DEI. I'm just saying it is what it is. Pull all these old white dudes in and they're like, "Hey, >> white people that make nothing but bad decisions. >> These are the the colonizers authorities there. There was no LGBTQ there representing. My god, man. >> We did not have the representation we needed. Obviously, that was the problem. we just needed more DEI representation. We would have made the right choice >> to shoot the place up. >> So anyway, >> anyway, he tell he he goes there and they're like, "Hey, let's come up with a list of pros and cons to tell people about the truth about aliens." I mean, I'm just saying it how it is, right? And they go through the list and they're like, "Oh, well, society will collapse, the economy will fall apart, the D, you know, the stock market will collapse. A bunch of people are going to blow their brains out because, oh, sorry. Sorry. I mean, I don't need the disturbing thing for YouTube or whatever, but you know, people are going to have self harm situations occur because they've been lied to their whole lives. And so, they add up all this stuff and they all agree, nope, we can't do it. It's all negative. We just can't do it. Which a I can't believe that's how they're making a decision, but I kind of can believe it at the same time. But here's the point. Why can't they do it though? Because the moment they tell you that the aliens are real, you're going to have a million questions. The same questions you're asking me, you're going to be like, "Where are they coming from? How are they getting here? What's their power source for their UFO? What's the implications of this technology?" And those are the tough questions. And the ones like, "Hey, how long have we known about this? How long have we been reverse engineering this technology in secret?" And like could we have had like the Jetsons going on right now? This is what Dr. Steven Greer talks about. The best documentary is the uh what what is it the the stolen uh the lost century. Have you watched that one? >> I believe I have with with Stephen Greer. >> Yeah. where he goes through like the cover up of free energy and how they've had this technology known about it for over a hundred years. But because they suppressed it, it's basically change the trajectory of our technological advancement. And this doesn't mean we don't have cool things. We got cool stuff like iPhones like this, right? But we're missing a whole angle to what's possible. And it opens the door to not just teleportation, uh, which is already amazing enough. Free energy. This actually opens the door to longevity. Like we might be able to live forever. Go ahead. What is >> Well, I think I think we can uh folks, you can go check this out. The Lost Century and How to Reclaim It with Steven Greer. Of course, this uh this what I have right here isn't showing it very well, but um >> you can go check that out. Let me scroll this up. There we go. >> You can watch it for free, too, online, I think. So, yeah, >> Stephen Greer has been a part of a lot of interesting things. Some of it I don't buy everything that he says, but I've actually tried to contact him and would love to have him on the show. What I do know is like he lives in Northern Virginia. He lives like I don't know, probably an hour away from me at most. So, Stephen Greer, if you end up watching this, number one, I'd love to have you on the show, but more importantly, I'd love to come to your house and do an in-person interview and a podcast. That'd be freaking awesome. Um, and I'd like to kind of dial in on some of the different things that he says. Let's talk a little bit about because I think there's a very active disinformation campaign that goes on that's kind of embedded in and and weaved all throughout this. You know, one of the one of the interesting things that Hal Putoff talks about too is like he talks a lot about um he talks a lot about um uh oh god, not astral projection, but um >> remote viewing. >> What's that? >> Remote viewing. Is that what you're talking about? >> Remote viewing. Yes. So, he talks about being involved in a lot of remote viewing and how effective that has been. And it's weird to see the crossover with him being who he is and uh you know getting into that and how there's there's some I don't know entanglement there for sure. >> Do you know the Ben Rich story? The >> Ben Rich was director of Locky Martin Skunkworks back in the 90s and he started saying some pretty crazy things uh like that anything you can imagine we've already figured out and it's locked up in black projects. It'll never be made available to the public. said that we had the ability to take ET home. And so people are rightfully going, "What are you what is this guy talking about?" Because he's a part of a major defense contractor who's building stuff for the military. So guy asks him, right? Says, "Okay, you say all this crazy stuff." He goes, "How is it that we can, you know, how is this possible? How is like teleportation possible or wormholes, whatever?" And he says, "Well, let me answer that question with by asking you a question." He says, "How is ESP possible?" And the guy thinks about it. And he tells Ben Rich, uh, all points in space and time are connected. And Ben Rich says, exactly. Now, what does that tell us? He's directly connecting this idea of ESP, extra sensory perception, could also be replaced by remote viewing, with this idea of a wormhole, space-time manipulation. The idea of even connecting quantum entanglement to a wormhole is actually a real theorem called ER equals EPR. Why was Hal Pudof super interested in remote viewing in the 60s and 70s SRRI and then he makes the jump suddenly 1987 his first paper about zero point energy the ground state of the hydrogen atom where he basically argues every atom is like a perpetual motion machine and if we squeeze it we can get a little bit of energy out of it because every atom is in this sea of energy and it's constantly replenishing its own energy from this sea of energy which means there's something to extract there and technically what we're extracting is the zero point energy when we do that. So you watch how Pudaf make this jump from remote viewing to this idea of this infinite sea of energy and it's directly analogist to what Ben Rich is telling that guy. He's saying that the same phenomenon that allows us to hop through spaceime could in theory allow for psychic powers. Now my personal opinion I think it's kind of all [ __ ] I mean, I think it might be theoretically possible if you, you know, do some crisper stuff and start messing around people's DNA and what have you, but I >> that's kind of my my point. If we have, if we're using how put off as an example of, hey, this is corroborating certain aspects of it, but then we have Hal Putoff also talking about something else that you think is [ __ ] >> Like, how do you reconcile those two things? >> That's what's tough. And even Steven Greer, I don't agree with Stephen Greer on everything. He's all into the C5 and Beiju, Ambassador Beju's visiting us from the Andromeda galaxy. And like I'm like, bro, why are you talking about that? I'm like, why don't you just keep it to the, you know, secret military technology? Like, why bring that? Why bring the interdimensional ghost aliens into this? Like, it >> Stephen Steven Greer is even getting involved with like the tridactyls down in Peru and everything else, which >> stay away from that too. Even if it's real, like it's not there's no good resolution to that, right? Like >> it's fun. It's fun. It's interesting. But >> I don't want to judge people too harshly because they do the same thing to me about MH370 and they say, "Oh, that's silly. Don't talk about it. Don't talk to him." So I I don't try to I say, you know, whatever you're interested in. But your point to answer your question, how do you how do you work through all of this? >> And the answer is you shouldn't throw anybody out. Do the same thing that I did for the MH370 case. I said, "I'm not I'm not going to let my biases control this. I'm going to take all the evidence. I'm going to pull it all in and analyze it piece by piece. Irres irregardless of who's telling me, irregardless of what other stories that person has told me." Some people will say, "Don't listen to Eric Davis. He lied about this. Doesn't mean he's lying about something else. >> Doesn't mean he's lying about his knowledge about warp drives." So I take it piece by piece and I don't throw somebody out just because I disagree with them on one thing or another. Um, so I think that's probably a good thing >> and you know that that's the thing with conspiracy theories and that's how I try to approach all these things is is again you got to independently assess every situation not just say hey because one thing's true this is true because I I do think when you're talking about disclosure that is one of the problems that we would will definitely have with disclosure is if they ever do come out and say oh look we're just coming clean there was aliens Roswell was legit all the things are going to talk about what people are going to make that leap is like all of these conspiracies and all these things were were were >> were were true and we were lied to. And of course, you know, there's elements of that that you're always going to get from a a government. That being said, the reason that so many of us believe certain conspiracies is that there is a lot more evidence that supports one or the other. And I think it's really smart to sit back and independently analyze every situation and every element of that situation before you just go, "Oh, well, you know, JFK was killed by the government, so therefore Charlie Kirk was killed by the French Israeli assassins that planted it all down in Fort Wuka." Like, you got to you got to assess all those things individually. And I think that is the key and stay evidence based >> and don't let the like like you said I know I have a proclivity like I want to see some aliens man I want to ride a spaceship but that being said I'm not going going to allow myself to be tricked because that is one of the big elements of all this that we know for a fact is that there is some deception taking place. Project Blue Book, one of its main objectives was basically to trick the US population into believing that anything they see was, you know, swamp gas, weather balloons. And part of that was to undermine the credibility of these people where we get this idea that like, oh, you saw a UFO. Okay, there fruit cake. You know, that that was that was something that they planned and coordinated. And you know what's funny about that is that people were saying that about me at first when I was talking about this. I'm like, "Hey, this is teleportation we're seeing in these videos." And they're like, "No, no, he's trying to make the UFO thing sound silly." I'm like, "Wait, why are you acting like the UFO thing has a whole bunch of credibility right now?" Cuz a you need a way for the aliens to get here. And I'm telling you, here it is. You know, so I thought that part was a little funny. But you're right about the skepticism thing. Like the problem is now also that if they do admit it if Trump comes and says aliens are real. You're already seeing it with the Epstein files. They're like conspiracy theorists are right about everything. And part of the problem is now you start to paint with this broad brush and now they're going oh yeah Epstein was turning kids into jerky and eating them. You're like okay bro you just you took it like 10 steps too far right there. Like yes Epstein was bad person. He did bad things but you're taking it too far there. And this is why I also came out and and uh disavowed Candace Owens even though I was on her show. More than a million views on her show. It's just because at the end of the day, there has to be a line for this. There simply was not evidence for somebody else having shot Charlie Kirk as and I'm just being impartial about it. That's just my opinion. >> I agree. >> And and this is where people would tell me and they would attack me. They would say, "How can you say that that conspiracy theory is not true when you say that some orbs teleported a plane?" which admittedly is a lot crazier of a claim than saying that somebody else killed a guy, right? I don't disagree, but I've got the evidence to go along with it. If you show me two videos in sync of somebody else shooting Charlie Kirk, then I'm going to change my mind. Like that's like that's the thing. But there is that doesn't exist, right? So to me, that's what I hope I if we if they do come and admit that the aliens are real and what have you and that, you know, we do that, that's where we're going to need people like you and like other people that have that can draw that line and say, "Hey guys, let's not go completely over the crazy cliff here." You know, yes, we do have directed energy weapons. That doesn't mean that they're always beaming them into your house and messing with your brain every moment at the same time, right? because some people take it too far. Um, and I think that's a real challenge and probably part of one of the main reasons, one of the under talked about reasons on why disclosure doesn't happen is that the psychological aspect of what will happen and not from the people that Reddit wants you to think. Reddit wants you to think that the the religious people are going to freak out, that they're going to have a crisis, a mental breakdown. Not going to. I've talked to those people on a lot of podcast guys. not them. The ones that are going to freak out are the ones that are convinced that there's 27 genders and that the only thing that saved them from a cold virus was a mask over their face because the government told them that was the case. And they're going to freak out because they're now going to find out that their government is capable of lying to them at a massive scale and they ate it up without even questioning it. And they're going to start to wonder what else have I been getting lied about? What else could the government have lied to me about? That's what they're afraid. Those are the people that are going to completely lose it. And those are the ones I'm really afraid of going way off the deep end because when you go too far one direction, you end up rebounding back the other way and going fullon everything's a conspiracy. Yeah. I don't look I I've always enjoyed discussing the UFO topic, aliens, wormholes, all the things. And I haven't ever met a religious person that I've discussed that with and be like, "Hey, you know what? If we're we found out today, hey, a UFO landed at the White House lawn and UFO uh aliens got out. Would you have a crisis of faith?" And like, I've never met anyone that that like, no, that really doesn't play into it. Just because the Bible doesn't talk about it doesn't mean that it isn't true. Um or that it exists. Conversely, like you said, I I do think those people, whether I don't care where they are politically, that have no foundation of principles and logic structure, those are the ones that where it's all going to fall apart on them and they're going to have a identity crisis, if you will, of trying to figure out what's right, what's wrong. And again, we see this like we see people that choose a conspiracy theory with no evidence whatsoever versus something that they may not like, but there's a ton of evidence. And all that evidence that is very real not only not only provides that much more proof that that is what took place, but it also, you know, completely contradicts over here where you're choosing that it doesn't have evidence, but you're believing it in spite of evidence, too. And that's where we start getting into the realm of religion, I think. >> Oh, absolutely. And I think that even a lot of the the alien believer people have fallen into that realm, which is also a little scary because it keeps it makes us vulnerable to like the project blue beam narrative that's out there that you know they will because you could imagine if a bunch of these plasma orbs were to just come down, everyone's going to think it's an alien invasion, right? And you could have the whole war of the worlds thing going on. So I I think that there's a certain aspect of if people are too into a certain idea, they're going to leave themselves open and vulnerable to psychological manipulation. So we have to be very careful about that as well. Um and so for even for both sides like that's why I tell people I'm open to any I'm open to any answer any answer to all of this. It's just that the evidence is so compelling and I would argue anybody that doesn't believe so read those durs those defense intelligence reference documents. go realize that those are the people talking in these UFO uh movies that are making and then think about why are they making those movies and why do they keep making them with the same people saying kind of the same stuff you said it earlier essentially they're conditioning us it seems very obvious they're conditioning us for something here to to drop something into our lap and that's part of the reason people may ask Ashton they'd say if you're right about this plane and all this and that was a special operation why are you alive Why is Edward Lynn, the guy that you say leaked these videos alive? Part of it because no one's going to believe this [ __ ] I mean, and really still to this day, very few people still believe, of course, because it's just so hard to believe. Um, but also, I think they they want they want some of this to come out. They want the public to be more and more conditioned to it. And who knows, maybe they're doing a poor job. I'd argue that people really don't seem to care about aliens or anything in general for the most part. people I talk to I think you know some people are interested but a broad scale not and so maybe they need this maybe they want somebody like me or you for us talking about this because it gets it it demystifies it people it makes people more talk about it you know >> yeah it normalizes it and again it makes us more susceptible to accept it and believe it >> um but I do I think you hit on it that's really what it comes down to when there's there's a certain amount of people that live in an evidence-based reality and then there's those that live in their own reality of what they think it should be and and and you know kind of go through the world with their feelings, thoughts and I don't know a little bit of utopia in on their brains as opposed to going by what the evidence tells us. So, and I think that does make us very susceptible to believing [ __ ] and being manipulated from the outside in. Um, I got a quick video I want to play for you guys. This is kind of this is meant to be a political video, but I think it applies to having a strong mind and having cognitive security from from every aspect. So, uh I'm going to play this real quick and then after that we'll take some questions. Uh we are going to prioritize super chats. I know there's a bunch up there already and then we will try to get to as many uh live ones as well. Let me by date here. All right. Here's why talking politics with the modern left feels like banging your head against a wall. Anyone who has ever tried knows the feeling. You present facts, evidence, or plain common sense, and what comes back is a wave of emotional outrage. The worst part is that it's no longer possible to live a normal life without running into politics, schools, workplaces, museums, sports, entertainment, universities. And and and folks, I want us to again, this is true if you believe in anything without evidence. And this is what we run into when we get into these debates of conspiracies. This is true, this is not true. When you are completely sold on something that has no foundation of reality, this is what you run into, and this is what you're susceptible to. >> Every corner of life has been swallowed by ideology. We live in a society held hostage by people who insist their fantasies outrank reality. And the reason is simple. We are being tyrannized by delusions. Most people debate from reality outward. But the modern left debates from utopia inward. This inversion comes straight from the Frankfurt school. The intellectual factory that produced nearly every strand of woke dogma now embedded in academia in the public sector. Their central idea was the utopian horizon. Imagine a world without hierarchy or domination. Then condemn the real world for failing to match the fantasy. Once you understand this, the entire ideological landscape snaps into focus. They argued that the family reproduces hierarchy and must be reimagined. Schools must radicalize children against power structures instead of educating them. Culture manufactures consent. Therefore, culture must be engineered. Even language encodes power and must be bent to social justice aims. In this worldview, every institution is guilty unless proven innocent. And innocence is impossible because the benchmark is utopian perfection. So, critical theory always finds oppression. If a system works, it's stabilizing power. If a system fails, that's also power at work. If people consent, they're duped by power. If they dissent, the system shaped their frustration. It's a closed loop. You're not debating ideas. You're debating someone who believes the real world is illegitimate by default. Modern offshoots such as critical race theory, gender theory, decolonization studies, and feminism all use the same engine. Imagine a utopian world. Identify gaps between their imagination and the real world. declare those gaps as oppression, then demand society must be remade. This is why discussing politics with the modern left feels like arguing with someone who's hallucinating. They construct a perfect world in their mind, one without conflict, cost, tradeoffs, or human nature, then label anything that falls short as bigotry, privilege, or violence. The obsession with race, LGBTQ politics, feminism, and decolonization is not random. is the metric they use to measure how far reality deviates from the dream. You're not arguing with people who misread the world. You're arguing with people who believe the real world is wrong for existing. >> So >> yeah, if I can add on that real quick too because you see this >> everywhere is what I've realized. The politics is ingrained everything. It's ingrained in the UFO community. It's ingrained in academia as well. And if you take that same idea of this wokeness where you must have this belief set and if you don't have that exact perfect belief set then you get ostracized you get attacked. That's also what happens to UFO. If you don't believe in their view of the aliens and what the technology allows and and the lore I found if you don't kiss the ring then they you know excommunicate you in academia. If you don't believe in the standard model if you are not trying to advance what they believe to be the collective agreed upon physics then you get thrown out. They will say you can't believe in a fifth dimension. Fifth dimension doesn't make any sense. It's too complicated to add that. So, we're not going to do that. And you realize these are the things. This is the perspective that holds us back. So, to to bookend the point I was making before, you don't want to be too much of a believer in every conspiracy theory, but you also don't want to be a militant skeptic either. You want to be someone that's open-minded that can judge the facts independently in evidence. >> Yeah. Yep. and apply a little bit of critical thinking. And the other thing I I hate all these terms getting hijacked. Critical thinking is not just believing in [ __ ] because you want to believe it. Critical thinking is applying logic and evidence-based application to what you're trying to decide is true or not. Because one of the things that the left has done to us for the last 50 years really is we've been sucked into this moral relativism and now we're getting into this reality relativism. And that's kind of what he was talking about in there. It's like, hey, I want the world to be like this, and if it's not, like, all we got to do is change things around, and you just got to adapt to a reality that doesn't exist, and that's what I want you to do. And that's what we see in all of these debates. Like, the amount the lack of logic and reasoning that goes into some of these discussion to me is just mind-blowing. Like when you sit there, uh, you know what? I'm not even jumping that, but anyways, that >> we we'll leave it with that. >> That's Yeah, it's good. Let's do some uh chat super chats question. >> Um Timothy Foster, good evening Ashton and fellow Orbee ambassadors. If you're a Christian, you believe in different dimensions and dimensional beings. The creator made our universe from things unseen to to things seen. I agree with that. um you know if we were going back I don't know two 30 hund years and we started talking about magnetism and we started talking about magnetic fields and things like that there are a lot of people that would be labeled as a heretic and you're talking about mysticism voodoo witchcraft whatever else it we we clearly like the Bible talks about what we would consider different dimensions so I don't think that there's anything unbiblical about anything that we're talking out. So, I I don't know what what's your thoughts on that, Ashton? >> Um, my favorite thing to say is that there's no incompatibility between science and faith. And so, with respect to all this, like you really nailed it, which is that, you know, they would have burnt you at the steak if you had an iPhone 500 years ago. So you know as this technology advances uh our understanding and perspective advances and it seems like it moves more and more towards the mystical more and more towards the spiritual as opposed to being more more and more towards an atheistic view. At least in my perspective the more I learned when I learned that there's this extra dimension I to me that means our universe is a construct and that to me means that there must be a creator because every construct has a creator. there is some code base, some fundamental rule or structure to our reality, then someone designed that in my opinion or at least it speaks to intelligent design in my in my mind. >> Yeah, it's hard to look at the universe and really understand what's going on in the cosmos and not look at not think that there was an intelligent design behind that. I I couldn't agree more. >> I 100% don't believe in aliens, but I'm a conspiracy theorist at heart and love this guy is dedicated to his theory. My mind could be changed with facts. Uh that came up when you were talking about the MH370. >> Oh yeah. And that's still true. People always ask me like and I'll even say right now they say what would it take Ashen for you to admit that the videos are fake or what have you. And this is what I tell people is if you are somebody who has a theory you should have a way what is your where are your goalposts to be falsified. You know this is what I would challenge Candace Owens with when she's talking about the Charlie Kirk stuff. What would it take for you to admit that you're wrong and say that that Tyler Robinson is the one that did it? Right? So, for me, the answer is find the hoaxer of the videos. Nobody. There's literally nobody that made those videos. Somebody was pretending to for like a year and I was calling them out as a fraud and then their DMs leaked and it was all about them faking evidence and stuff like that. There isn't nobody that made those videos. Or if that's not enough, find the airplane. These people are saying they know that they were tracking the airplane into the South Indian Ocean. They keep searching down there. They keep not finding it. So, that's my level of how do you prove how would I admit that I was wrong? So, >> well, that's great. >> Uh, please watch Alien Intrusion by Gary Bates if you want a biblical perspective. There is no evidence that any UAP has ever entered our atmosphere. There are interdimensional and all abductions are evil. Uh, I would disagree with that. There is some video footage that has been leaked that it does come from NASA that does seem to indicate planes going from outside of orbit into the atmosphere of the United States or into the atmosphere of the Earth. So uh I mean again I don't want to put any limitations. Just because we don't understand it with our current knowledge set doesn't mean that it contradicts anything that's biblical or spiritual or anything else. >> And to me this is a just simply a matter of different conceptual viewpoint when you look at this. And this is where I'd say let's not argue about are they coming from space and entering the atmosphere? Are they skipping through a wormhole from a a distant point through by a shortcut in an extra dimension? Either way, they're getting here, right? So, I don't I that's where I don't want to argue over the the minute minutia of it. But this is also where I think it's very important that Congress, you know, Congressman Berles and Luna specifically who are involved in this UFO thing, they need like people who are understand the physics to explain this because otherwise people I know are thinking when they hear interdimensional beings, you know, they're thinking like the Marvel movies and stuff's coming from the Bizarro dimension and that in my opinion is is not what is really going on. It's a lot more down to earth than that as opposed to, you know, infinite dimensions and multiverses like it's a, you know, Marvel movie. >> Well, one of the most uh interesting um events that took place obviously is the tic tac with Colonel David Fraver. We with that instance, we literally have visual and system tracking of some sort of object going from basically sea level all the way up to 80,000 ft. So I think that again and 80,000 feet is definitely outside of our atmosphere. >> That's up there. Yeah. Yeah. So we have the evidence that there is abnormal propulsion things that are occurring for sure in our atmosphere. One more point I'll bring is that those orbs may not even be able to work in outer space. They actually might be transmedium orbs, but they might there's something called air breathing magneto hydrodnamics, also known as air breathing MHD. That's actually one of those nerds as well. >> Nerd. >> I love it. I'm I am total nerd. Air breathing MHD. But this means >> you were up in high school >> probably. They uh now now we can be friends though now that we're adults. But uh the air breathing MHD they're using the air as fuel. They're pulling the hydrogen out of the air or they can use the hydrogen from the water. But the this was funny because what these fusion or uh nuclear uh weapons engineers they were trying to build these uh spacecraft that could fly. They were thinking in their heads how to build spacecraft using nuclear propulsion. And the downfall was there's not enough hydrogen outer in empty space or in the vacuum of space. So they would have to build this huge net that would suck in enough hydrogen and the more they could suck in the faster the craft would be able to fly. And they ended up discarding them because they were like that all the people said, "Nope, there's not enough hydrogen won't work." And I just keep thinking, but won't that just work in our atmosphere? Won't that just work in the water like really really well because there's plenty of hydrogen there? And I think that's what they did. I think they were like, "Oh, who cares about sending it to orbit? We'll do something else for that. We'll just have this plasma ball fly around." And it's basically like building up energy while just flying around through the air. So, >> and you think that these objects are transmedium because they do create a mag uh a gravitational field around them. So, it really doesn't matter. >> Yeah. The way it really works is they found out from the hypersonic crafts, the spycraft like SR71, they would in order to achieve those speeds, they would use something called a plasma sheath and which is actually the same concept as air breathing and MHD. They shoot a laser in front. It creates a plasma shield basically and that plasma shield reduces drag and it reduces friction. So this is why the craft doesn't rip apart. So you can imagine all they did was realize, oh, let's just encase our drone in that. We don't need to have a person inside of a plane anymore. Just enase it in the plasma bubble. And now you've got a bubble that functionally just moves through different medium without any, you know, apparent change in its propulsion mechanisms. And then from a how it moves, yes, you could imagine that that like line you see out there is almost like a gravitational wave and it doesn't even have to be a lot of force. If that's essentially like a weightless object, you just give it a tiny push, right? And it can go whatever direction you want. And this is the trick of what they figured out is they figured out, hey, if we like make this thing really light and we use this uh plasma sheath and encase it. Now we've created something that has 360 degree uh movability or maneuverability and it has no friction, no drag, so it can be super super efficient. >> So do you think that's what we're looking at at the the gimbal events off of Coronado Island? Those are harder to judge. Uh the one that Berles released recently, you see that Hellfire missile hitting that one where it like kind of breaks apart. That is definitely plasma. Yeah, because it doesn't collapse down to the ground. Like it gets hit and then it breaks apart, but all the pieces just keep floating. >> And I'm looking at I'm going plasma 100%. Because that's what plasma does is plasma produces its own electromagnetic field. This means you can basically make a smoke ring out of plasma and it'll just keep going and it won't come apart. And so that's what like you're seeing that phenomenon in that video when it gets hit by that. So I think a lot of them are at minimum they're using plasma as the way to like tap in to the 0 point energy to produce thrust energy etc. Plasma is like the medium by which that occurs. Now, when we say something's transmedium, do you think there's a limitations to that? Can it go through uh we we we've seen video of it going from air to water? >> But like what does that mean? Does it mean it can go through solid objects as well? What's your thoughts on that? >> I asked Salvatore Py that US Navy engineer that's got those UFO patents. That was like one of the first things I asked him and he was like scared to answer. Long story short, it might be able to go through straight up solid objects. Yeah. Um, they have seen that phenomenon happen with these plasma balls, assuming there's nothing inside of it. If it's just a plasma ball, then in theory, yes, it could phase through a solid object. And you might ask, well, how is that possible? Well, remember that even an atom is like 99% empty space. It's like or even more than that, like 99.999% empty space. So, you know, a lot of this has to do with like Tesla and like waves and getting your waves to cancel out and what have you. But yes, in theory, you could like phase right through a solid object. And uh actually there's one story, let's just say hypothetically that, you know, you could imagine if we had submarines or other craft that are under the water. >> How crazy would it be if something just phased through your submarine and all of a sudden you're looking at like it would seem like a ghost probably, right? Just comes through your submarine. You're looking at a plasma object or something like that. pretty creepy and it would be a good place to hide in the ocean. That's where like Congressman Burchett and the others they they've been talking about this idea that maybe they're hiding in the oceans. I mean, this is why I say I don't know if they're coming from outer space underwater or if it's aliens or just a big lie. You know, all these options. Even another option would be that maybe we dug something up at like an archaeological site like maybe it crashed here a long time ago. There was a previous civilization. There just a lot of options. that's been said that at least like two or three crafts have been found in. Matter of fact, that was a story that um >> uh Bob Lazar uh said that he was told that like two or three of them were actually found in archaeological sites. >> And if you go back the other angle too would be the Nazis is that if you go back to the the stories like the Nazi bell, they were using mercury plasma to cause anti-gravitational effects. That's how the lore goes. And they just gave it like a voltage, a charge on it. And it you can look at mercury experiments right now. As you apply a charge to liquid mercury, it starts to spin around. And so, you know, you could you could even argue that, well, maybe the Nazis had figured something out. Maybe it's even a cult because a lot of people think that the Nazis were like linked to the occult and they figured it out from that kind of stuff. So, the everything's in the everything's on the table. Aliens, demons, angels, even future humans. So that if I'm wrong about the going back in time situation, right? If it turns out you can go back in time, then it might be that we created this whole universe because at some point in the future, somebody went back in time and created a time loop and we're just living in it. Well, and that's another one of the theories and it I mean it kind of passes the smell test that when we see these grays and we see these aliens that is us in the future where we've just evolved to the point that we no longer have you know I guess generals or you know we've gotten skinnier and skinnier because all we did was spend our time on social media never went outdoors and we had to have these big eyes because we never saw sunlight or who knows but point is again it's it's all fun to play around with. >> What uh here's another thought though. What if it's not from the future? What if they're from the past? What if I am right, you can't go to the past, but somebody hopped in a time machine and they accidentally went like 5,000 years to the future and now their whole civilization's gone and now they're here and they're stuck with us, a primitive society that doesn't have anything and they're like, "Oh crap, my spaceship doesn't fly anymore. They're stuck in our timeline." That would be pretty weird, too, because just because they're they're from the past doesn't mean they're less technologically advanced than we are, right? >> Sure. No, I look I'm a big I don't know if you listen to Graham Hancock, but I do. I love Graham Hancock stuff. >> Yeah. >> And I do believe that uh you know, again, it gets a little weird when you're trying to reconcile what the Bible says as far as timelines and things like that, but I do believe that it's very likely that we had advanced civilizations in the past that were wiped out by major cataclysms. Like I'm a big nerd when it comes to uh monolithic and uh uh not monolithic but uh you know these large when you're looking at Peru the the pyramids a lot of the people think that the pyramids are much older than what they thought they were and the fact that we can't reproduce many of these technologies and build some of these things that were you know were built allegedly you know 5,000 years ago. So, you know, if there was we had some sort of advanced society that was able to skip ahead and completely miss some sort of major cataclysm that was world ending, whether that's a comet or something hitting the earth. I don't know. It's interesting. But we do have here's that video where you're talking about I think this is worth >> the coast of Yemen showing a US MQ9 Reaper drone tracking a glowing orb as it flies over the water. Now watch closely as a different US drone drops a Hellfire missile on that fastmoving orb. The missile appearing to bounce off the object, doing very little damage. The orb then zipping away unfased. The video from October 2024 shown during a congressional hearing today an unexplained anomalous phenomena. That's the official name for UFOs. >> Do you solemnly swear? >> Several service members giving their own eyewitness accounts and reacting to that new video. Does this video scare you guys? >> Yes or no? >> Yes. >> Wiggins? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And there are big questions right now. Why was that missile fired? >> Old George Knap, who was the first person to uh interview uh Bob Lazar. >> Yeah, people are trying to debunk that video and like be like, "That's balloons." I'm like, "Are you out of your mind? that thing is floating for like three or four seconds after that without even coming down at all. Uh but the other thing that bugs me about this that I wanted to bring up earlier is that I'm out here talking about, you know, how this technology is working. I'm promoting these engineers that are on these movie, these disclosure movies that are friends with George Knap and those people you see testifying there. And none of these people have ever reached out to me before. Never once ever has a single one of them ever reached out to talk to me. And you would just think like this guy's your number one superfan. He's promoting your work. He's saying that you've got it all figured out. Wouldn't you want to talk to him about these videos that prove all your scientific theories, right? Like it's not like I decided that that's the theory because I just picked it randomly. Like that's the theory that makes those videos make sense. And yet they haven't. And when I emailed Hal Pudaf and he responded, he like gave me the shortest like one sentence response and almost acted like he doesn't like even believe in zero point energy. I'm sitting here like I tell people like this is like Yoda saying that like the force isn't real. Like you know it's just it doesn't make any sense to me. So I get ner I get worried that like why are they avoiding the topic and well I think about what are the implications of what we talked about means that we have this tech and that could mean that those people while they may have good intentions at the same time they're protecting national security. They know that we're doing stuff that's morally dubious at best. >> Yeah. And I bet if you're being as generous as possible to some of these guys like they probably been tricked before. or they've probably, you know, been taken out of cont. They're probably very careful who they communicate with. I I think that's fair to say, too. Uh CJ Corinthy says, "What is your theory on three eye atlas?" >> Yeah, my theory. I told people it's just a rock, guys. And I feel like I got vindicated on this. People were like, "Yo, Ash, you're gonna get proven wrong." I saw a lobe doing his thing. He says 50% chance that it's uh non non organic origin. I'm like come on bro. And this is the reason why. What have we talked about for the last two hours here? We talked about wormholes and teleportation and aliens can be invisible and they're going to appear from nowhere, right? Why would an alien be flying on a space rock if they have that level of technology? That's like Flintstones aliens taking their yubba daadoo car and running around their stone car. Makes no sense whatsoever. So to me, it's almost regressive thinking. If you're a future, if you're somebody who believes in aliens and UFOs, you should never be thinking that aliens are flying around on a slow rock that would take 50,000 years to get here from the nearest star system. That's just way, way, way too slow. It's just never never going to do it there, right? >> So that's my view. Yeah. And I was just looking to see if because I remember watching him on Joe Rogan talking about three Atlas. Um, and I forget the other comment, Abu Gawuga or whatever it was. A wahoo wahoo. Whatever it was, I don't know. Uh, sound like somebody hawking up Flynn. I was looking to see if he had changed his opinion on three eye atlas because there was supposedly a point to where it was going to get around the sun or he's like, I'll be able to tell at that point and I can't find anything. If he's >> all of a sudden it just went dark, right? They go in quiet and this is what happens like oh they get disproven like oh we're not going to talk about that anymore. You even see this with like the Candace Owen stuff. They're like, "Oh, the Egyptian planes. Oh, we're not gonna talk about the Egyptian planes anymore, right? Because it kind of gets disproven." And this is where I had a podcast with Abby Loe. In fact, I pressed him really hard on the podcast about this technology and all this stuff where I want I am charitable to people and I and even if I think somebody's like CIA or whatever, I'm still going to talk to him anyway, whatever. But, >> you know, some of this I'm like, "Come on, guys." like it doesn't, you know, let's be a little more realistic about if we believe these aliens are here, let's well, how could they really happen? You know, how could what and what would it really mean? It's not going to be space rocks, guys. >> Yeah, I agree with that. Does seem regressive. Uh, Lucas Ray works. Thank you, buddy. Can you ask the aliens if they are real? If they have a technology that can help me read the wind better during my next match, that would be helpful because I suck at it. >> What What match are we What are we talking about here? Is this shooting archery? long range shooter. Uh, I will tell you, Lucas, I came across some >> I came across something I I'm hoping to get it in my hands very soon. >> One of the most interesting and innovative optics, I'll say that. But it definitely not only reads when distance, ballistic solution, uh, the same level of fidelity day or night, it was basically made by aliens. So hopefully I'll >> get that quant the quantum sensor thing. There you go. >> Sensors without a doubt. Hopefully I'll have that. I'll be able to do some extensive testing on that technology and I'll share that with you. >> Story I just heard by the way, maybe a fun story for him because that was a big donation there was that I heard that when we were first trying to shoot probes at the moon, we kept missing and it turned out when the probe finally hit the moon, it was accident. And what was the reason for it? all the electronics was accidentally turned off on the machine on the probe. And so people started to assume well maybe it's because these moving devices inside the moving parts the moving electromagnetic parts are somehow interacting with the void of empty space to to thrust one way or the other. >> And so you could think about this from a shooting perspect if that's true then even if it's a small effect that effect theoretically could apply even for a bullet and cause minute changes in its trajectory. So, who knows? Maybe if you're a quantum physicist, you might be the best shooter out there. >> Um, hey, glad you checked out the MH370 case. Did you watch the redacted interview I posted to you of Ashton? I haven't. I'll check it out. >> Yeah, that was a great one. That was probably the one that kind of put me on the map. It got millions of views uh talking about it. But a lot of that too, like you're now talking to me where I've come to some pretty mostly conclusive uh opinions on where I think that like what the technology is and where it's gone versus back then the biggest reveal was the Gorgon stair wide area motion imagery. The one video was called satellite video. So we had just been under the oppression. It's a satellite video especially because it said NOL22 and excuse me in the bottom left corner. And it wasn't until much later because I didn't know about military surveillance. Somebody left a comment in my YouTube chat and they said, "Anybody that's worked in intelligence knows that's whammy." And I was like, "What the hell is Whammy?" So, I Google Whammy, wide area motion imagery. Sure enough, I could just tell right away that's what it is because you read about it and it's like a computerenerated thing that's a low frame rate just like we were seeing there. >> And long story short, did some research and I found out it's not just Whammy. It's something called Gorgon Stair wide area motion imagery. And it's a very specific version of that software called increment 2 that would hit right around 2014. This was the biggest revelation because now we have a positively identified surveillance system and we know the company that made it. In fact, I c the day that we figured that out, I started calling the company up to get a statement and then when they started hanging up on me, I made a post about it and we shut down their whole phone system. Their whole phone system completely came down because we kept calling them. Everybody was spamming them for a record and then they deleted the entire web page from their website about the Gorgon stair wide area motion imagery. It got 404 in real time. We watched it and now it doesn't exist anymore. So for the people out there that are like, "No, that's not real." I'd say that's a pretty weird story. That is a real story that happened like six months ago. Actually, that was like nine months ago. Given the implications and the ramifications of that video, >> why do you think do you think somebody just randomly decided to leak that? Do you think that was intentional? Like what do you think's going on there with that? Because >> you would think something that big. Basically, what we're saying is that we disappeared freaking like well over 200 230 or so people. And on top of that, we're revealing some technology that is only theoretical. So, why do you think that the government allowed that to get released? >> They didn't allow it. No, it had to be unintentional leak. Uh, and I think the person that leaked it, Edward Lynn, it was either indirect or he had good intentions, like somebody reached out to him, like maybe his Taiwanese counterpart, his buddies in Taiwan, this is kind of how they got him, and said, "Hey, can you use your connections to find that missing plane?" And then he goes and logs into the system and he sees that and goes, "Oh shit." And he either thinks it's aliens and is like, "Hey, I'm going to be famous because I'm about to leak this alien footage and here's your disclosure. Aliens zap the plane." Or he knew it was us from the context like I was able to figure out it's us and then realized this is an illegal operation. I mean, you could argue Edward Lynn is a whistleblower revealing an illegal operation. The problem is I'm pretty sure the government's going to have the legality of that whole thing locked up. Like Obama knows about that. You know, uh, Admiral William McRaven knows about that. He was the SOCOM commander at the time. Um, you know, John Brennan, James Clapper, the D the DNI, the CIA director, they all know. The president knows. I know for sure because the president has to be the one that dictates policy. The CIA can't dictate policy. they can only give options. So, you know, I don't know. It is what it is. A lot of people know about it. >> What was the evidence that he was indeed the one that linked uh that leaked that >> um if you read about his case, you'll see that he was in Signals Intelligence. The thing that he leaked was the highest level, went to the highest level, the joint chiefs of staff, but also his lawyer argued during the case that the evidence in question was available on the internet, which is probably the most damning thing of all. Uh the the time frame also matches perfectly. He was start the investigation began April 2nd, 2014, three weeks after the plane disappeared. The video first gets published May 19th, 2014. But the person that published it said they received it 4 days after the plane disappeared. So in theory, the person that leaked the videos, if we believe the description, that person leaked that video right after it happened. And so if you look through other people that were charged with espionage and you know the other charges that would apply here, nobody else even checks one box. Like Edward Lynn checks every single box. The time frame they even talk about him leaking weapons secrets which could be exactly >> here is talking about rail gun. So far I haven't seen anything. >> I mean isn't that what we're looking at >> that actually is talked about. You know, there's there's nothing talking about that particular video, but there's multiple other things saying that he leaked to Taiwanese. >> Exactly. And they tried to make it seem like he was leaking stuff to China, but they ended up having to admit there was no evidence that he leaked anything to China, which is interesting to give them the context because he may have just leaked these, but not been trying to help our adversaries, but it does so much damage to national security that they came down on him super hard. >> Yeah. because it's essentially the equivalent of leaking like nuclear weapons secrets. >> Yeah. >> Like his sister's a lawyer with Homeland Security and she and by the way, get this. She specializes in countering weapons of mass destruction. That's his sister. And she's married to a big national security MSM correspondent named Shawn Naylor who goes on podcast and talks about what the CIA can do. So, I think he got special treatment, whereas most people if they do something this serious, like you're never going to see them again. But for him, either it was indirect and like he was doing something he shouldn't have, but like it wasn't malicious. That's the part where I just need to talk to him because I know he leaked these videos, but I want to know like what was going through his mind when he took these out of a skiff and le and gave them to somebody to post on the internet. He had there had to be a reason. Sure, folks. I just uh post, you can look him up, Edward Lynn, L I N. I just posted a link to this particular article if you want to check that out. Um, but yeah, nothing nothing talks about MH370 or footage. Um, >> oh, no, no, no. They would never say >> going to jail for I think he was he was served six years. Yeah, he got a nine-year sentence with three years for time served or actually three years for because he cooperated with the FBI >> and the NCIS. And by the way, I foyed his NCIS case and they rejected it in total, which is really suspicious because if he's the guy that leaked those videos, there's going to be fingerprints of him leaking those videos all over the court records and documents. And in fact, part of the evidence was classified and had to they had to get special clearances just to review the evidence that he leaked. >> So, I mean, if you look at it, it just all adds up. Like, if it's not those videos, what is what did this guy leak? And take it a step further, look at other people that are charged with espionage. They say exactly what it is they leaked. They'll be like, "Oh, this person leaked satellite footage. This person leaked whatever. This person took $15,000 for some weapon secrets." For Edward Lynn, they said nothing. Well, to be fair, at least that article, it did say rail gun technology and a couple other things that they listed. But >> yeah, that's not that wasn't in the Yeah. Okay. But that was like kind of just word of mouth, not like what was in the the documents. But yeah, >> fair enough. Uh, such a hot stream tonight. Keep it up, gentlemen. >> I'm g have to grow a beard. >> What do you think about Ben Davidson's suspic suspicious observers on YouTube theory on disaster cycle? Oh, is that the weatherman guy? I think it is. Right. >> I don't know. I never heard of the YouTube channel or this guy's name. >> I Yeah. Space weatherman. Yeah. So, he's the like polar reversal guy, which my view on this whole polar reversal thing is like if there's going to be a cataclysm that we can do nothing about, I'm not going to worry about it. If the if a meteor is going to hit us and take us all out, I'm not going to worry about it. I'm just going to live my life as it is. Right? So I and also I would say guys like anybody that's trying to tell you that hey every 6,000 years the poles are going to reverse and if you don't buy all this stuff and prep up then you're going to miss out on it and they're giving you this huge time frame. Uh how can they know that? It's unknowable information. So for me those are the two angles I take on. I have nothing against him and he may even be true with the pole reversal thing, but A, there's nothing we can really probably do about it. And number B, there's a pretty high chance you're going to get rugged at the end of the day on that one. >> Yeah. I mean, it's like it's like trying to predict the cycle of super volcanoes erupting. Like, we're not good at that stuff. And there may be some sort of I don't know thing that we can look at historically and kind of come to some basic conclusions, but I don't know. But I do think there is merit to like some of those that phenomenon. I think there's merit to the idea of like you know is the magnetic field around the earth protecting us in other times where it's weak. Certainly there's some merit to that data. I even think there's merit to the idea of uh let's say gra uh um weather manipulation but not necessarily weather control. Uh I think you could theoretically like you could induce like an earthquake but you're not going to like control an earthquake. I would say you're not going to control a hurricane, but you might be able to make a hurricane slightly stronger or slightly weaker. And this also speaks to what we were talking about before was like you there are things that people can do with this technology that are magical that are conspiratorial, but you don't want to take it too like too far in terms of, you know, what people are really doing. Are they making a hurricane and then wiping out a bunch of cities? They probably don't quite have that level of technology. Yeah, I do want to I'm gonna show this real quick because I do think this is really interesting. Um the restroom while you do that, too. >> Go ahead. Go ahead. >> All right, folks. So, here's our polls that we had today. And it's funny how they're almost exactly switched, right? So, we do 75% believe that Bob Lazar is legit. 25% don't. But then up here we have UFOs uh are ET technology or secret government technology. Only 27% think they're ET and 73% essentially believe that they are secret government tech. So that's uh I wasn't expecting that. I figured those would be kind of mirror one another. So that's that's interesting to watch for sure. Um all right we any other final questions? let us know. I'll try to get some of these in here the live chats. Uh I just saw somebody talking about a harp and then it Yep. Here we go. Look up Bill Gates harp array. I think that uh what what is your thought on that? The harp array. >> Yeah, I think the electromagnetic stuff is uh really interesting. So radar is just an electromagnetic wave. And what I've learned from Tom Bearden is that if we were to take two electromagnetic waves that are going opposite directions and have exact opposite phase um amplitudes that cancel each other out, we would measure that and say there's nothing there. But from a this idea of this extra dimension existing, that would say that there is something there. You've stressed the medium. The analogy would be like a rubber band. Uh, do I have my rubber band? Yeah. >> If I pull the rubber band both ways like this, the rubber band is not moving left or right. It's staying right here because I'm pulling both sides equally. But that doesn't mean there's nothing here. If I pull twice as hard, something's different between what I just did between this and this. But from our classic view of physics, we would say there's no difference. Now if you do this to spacetime you would say this the difference is the stress in the spaceime. So in theory if you were to make these zero waves we call them these scalar waves and amp that up that in theory will cause a deformation cause some real physical effect in spaceime. So why is this important relative to this radar question is all you have to do with modern technology to create that zero wave from normal radar is basically put a crystal in front of it. That's it. Like a special crystal and that will basically turn your normal electromagnetic wave into one of these scalar zero waves and you can shoot this zero beam around anywhere. In fact, if what Tom Bearden has said is true about this, and he was the guy that was blowing the whistle on this in the 80s, you can take that zero beam and intersect it with another zero beam, and this will produce energy at a distance. This is actually the basis for directed energy weapons as we know them because standard physics says you can't beam energy over a long distance. You lose too much. There's too much inefficiency. anything beyond like a couple inches or even a meter because you lose so much efficiency. So, how are we beaming energy, you know, miles or whatever we got to do? That's that would be how you would do it. So, that's the idea behind all that. >> That's interesting. What's your thought about geoengineering and chemtrails? I I've had Dane Wigington on twice, I think. I don't know if you're familiar with his work. >> Those people, I mean, they're they're very compelling in terms of, you know, it's certainly possible. absolutely is possible that we are and we do do seating cloud seating stuff but most of the stuff that I think that you people throwing you know pictures of stuff in the sky >> I don't I don't buy too much into it and that's the part too where it's there's an probably a certain element of truth that's very real to it >> but it's like the difference between you can make a directed energy weapon but that doesn't mean the directed energy weapon is constantly like messing with your brain every day and that they're tracking you and and doing that so >> can they do it yes but are they Speaking of which, and I didn't even see this, I just brought that up independently, but uh Jay Aether says, "Shout out to former head of FBI Ted Gunderson for admitting geoengineering is real, and so are chemtrails." >> I I do think I do think I just don't know what the scale and how effective they are. I do think that chemtrails are real. I do think geoengineering is is real. I just don't know at what scale they're using them and what they're actually getting out of them. Uh like you said, I think Dane Winningington, he he Wigington, he's provided some really and folks, you can go watch that. Just look up uh geoengineering on my uh uh YouTube channel. Uh the title is unmasking climate engineering, the hidden truths you need to know. And anyways, you can go check that out. But he does have some compelling evidence regarding the amount of aluminum oxide that's being dropped on us before after and a bunch of different he shows a bunch of different patents for the technology. He's shown they've actually flown next to some of these aircraft that he alleges are uh actually putting out chemtrails. It's pretty compelling. >> They can definitely do it. >> Take it take it for what it is. decide for yourself is true and do some more research on it. >> Yep. >> Uh let's see. >> When am I taking Ashton to the range, man? I don't Where you located at, Ashton? >> Uh I live in uh St. Paul in Minnesota. It's finally getting warm here. Been a while. Where you Where you guys at? Oh, you're in uh what? West Virginia or something like that? >> West Virginia. We're about an hour and a half from DC. So >> Oh. Oh. You ever want to come out and do some shooting? Let us know. We'll >> take that. >> You would probably be an excellent long range shooter. >> Get you down there doing some basic freaking calculations. Next thing you know, you're freaking a PRS pro. >> You would love. >> Sounds great. >> I'm shocked Gary has him on. I didn't think he was openminded because you don't know anything about me, dude. You haven't been watching this channel for five years. I I've talked about all this stuff. This is the crazy thing. And this is what we see all the time because because I disagree with people on Candace Owens and their [ __ ] theories that I'm not open-minded just because I won't believe all the [ __ ] out there. No. Again, I assess everything individually and because I disagree with you, I'm paid by the Jews and you know everything else. I'm I'm just like you people are >> also you don't have to agree with me to talk to me too, right? You could still think it's BS and still just want to talk to somebody and hear them out. >> I'll tell you when it comes to the MH370, like I know 98% more about that entire thing than I, you know, now than I did before you came on here. I like to hear everybody's stuff and uh Yeah. No, I I've I mean, every every single take that I've seen of yours from a scientific basis to politics to uh Andis Owens, I find based. and >> Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you. Well, I want to also give the impression that I'm not just some random crazy person, too. You know, where like, hey, I'm saying the craziest. I already know you're crazy. That's fine. I'm I'm good with that. We already got that. >> You are, Ashton. >> No, you're clearly you clearly know your [ __ ] And I think that uh and again, I watched some of your videos. I didn't want to get too down the rabbit hole, so I'd leave my brain with plenty of open room to ask questions. But >> yeah, >> you know, you're a serious person that I think approaches this from a science and evidence-based aspect of it all. And no, I I've enjoyed talking to you. >> Really easy to like do a bunch of the grifty [ __ ] too, right? And say a whole bunch of fake predictions for people and tell people like, hey, if you give me enough money, we'll be able to, you know, do this and speed this along. And uh, you know, I try to avoid as much of that as possible. At the same time, you know, it's I I do have basic monetizations on my stuff, but I think it's really important for these topics that there be some level of credibility and um uh decorum to to the conversation. >> Yeah. No, I I I agree and and you know, that's what I found compelling about everything I see of yours on social media. Uh, full body teleportation system, a pulse gravitational wave wormhole generator system that teleports a human being through hyperspace from one location to another. US patent US 200060071122A1. Uh, >> oh, I know that one. Full body. That's uh John Quincy or I think is his uh trans what was that? Full body transportation system. That's I think that's the one. So, there's these patents that are out there. Yeah. John Stlair is what it is. And my sources told me when I first dug into these patents that that was a fake name that somebody was using for those patents. Um, and that there might be an element of truth to them. And there's a weird rabbit hole about those patents as well >> about like that the guy um like they've tried to find who the guy really's name really was. And I can't remember the full story for it, but there's long story short, there's a lot of patents out there that explain this technology that use this technology and it's very real, but they have to be very careful about the wording they use because they have to avoid uh you know the patent off saying that this breaks the laws of thermodynamics or physics or what have you. So this is why you'll see some things mentioned um using words that are more like politically correct from the academic perspective. Now, that one isn't necessarily a patent that I would say, "Hey, that's the best patent that's out there because it's more of a conceptual patent as opposed to like the hard bolts of what you're building and what you can actually do." But it does, there are a lot of fun patents like that that kind of, you know, expand your your mind and your your perspective. >> Yeah. Uh just because you're given a patent doesn't mean that it is a functional item, right? >> Right. Correct. >> Um now, this is a good point. Awesome. Awesome. Eagle. The reason polls mirror each other is because Bob is credible. Government was reverse engineering this tech for nearly 80 years. Obviously, we have some breakthroughs and Normy's confused with aliens. Yeah. But I would also say the reason I was surprised that those were polar opposites of each other on those polls was the fact that that's what that's what Bob Lazar actually attributes that technology to is to extr extraterrestrials. >> So that's why I was a little surprised by that. But I can see where you're coming from. Makes sense. Uh >> yeah, one thing I'll say on that real quick, too, is that um basically every UFOologist that I spoke to said that we hadn't reverse we were not successful in reverse engineering this technology because that's what I would want to know from them is like, hey man, I'm looking at these videos where clearly we've got it figured out, but they all say that we haven't. And I think that will be the biggest narrative shift and it's already starting to happen that this community, my community, what have you, has gotten ahead of, which is that they're going to start saying, "Oh, no, we have been at least partially successful in figuring it out." >> Uh, S Flecher says, "Best duo live stream ever." Well, thank you, man. Glad you enjoyed it. Glad you guys enjoyed. >> We do have a pretty good vibe going on right here. I like >> Yeah, man. Uh, gravology, a new gravit gravittobiology. Graviditobiology. I would probably say that's how you pronounce that. A new bioysics. Great book. >> Yeah, a lot of people take there's clear connections between especially the quantum physics and a lot of these ideas about consciousness, microtubules, etc. I generally just avoid that. Mostly not because I'm not into it. Oh, actually that is probably the main reason. I'm more of like the hard physics kind of guy. That's just what I like and what I enjoy the technology, the biology side of it, you know, some people are more inclined to that. And for the people that are, I think that you there's definitely something here related to that. And it may go so far as consciousness itself may be a phenomenon that arises from this extradimensional energy that our bodies are just a like a transceiver and we're receiving this signal of our soul and our soul is actually an external phenomenon and that our bodies are just tapping into it. Because if that were true, think about the implications. Huge. >> You lost me at consciousness. But I agree. The 1918 influenza Spanish flu was supposedly meteorite asteroid organism seating wide worldwide travel. Was it fast enough for everyone to transfer it to each other in such a short time across Earth? >> Oh, now we're going down the rabbit holes here. >> All right. Viruses are aliens that have come from the other dimensions. I'll be honest with you. I've actually when I've, you know, had a couple to drink, I've I've entertained this in my mind. I thought, huh, how much do we really even know about viruses, right? The reality is we know less than we think we do. And I mean, unfortunately, we used to believe in like viral shedding and replication, and then COVID came along and we just decided we're going to throw that all away and just go back to superstition again. >> Yeah, >> bro. DoD literally disclosed the capabilities of radar to manipulate weather. Again, NEXRAD stations, look it up. I have seen that technology. I've I've read about it. Uh spent a little time on it, then moved on to other things. What What's What's your thought about this? The ability to use radar radar to different wavelengths of radar to manipulate weather. >> Yeah. Yeah. Like I said before, I mean, it still holds true. I think you manipulating weather and controlling weather are two different things. Absolutely. You can manipulate weather. There's no doubt you can manipulate weather, but then getting a controlled phenomenon like moving a tornado around or you know that's that's a whole another >> using using weather as a weapon. >> Yeah, exactly. So, >> but yeah, they probably can go ahead. >> What uh what are your thoughts on um I just saw your message. I'm glad glad >> Yep. What is your thoughts real quick on Maui fires >> and the Palisades fire? Do you feel like that there's any there there as far as conspiracy goes? >> Again, this is just my opinion, but generally I don't really think there is. I don't think we use directed energy weapons. Do it just doesn't why? I just can't come up with the motive for why on that front. Could we have? Yeah, probably. Yeah, I think we definitely have directed energy weapons. Uh the [ __ ] beams is what they're calling them now or whatever. But yeah, I think we do have direct I don't know they're coming from space, but we definitely have directed energy weapons and we could probably do that and burn down whole cities if we wanted to. Uh I just don't think that we necessarily did. So >> fair enough. Well, I would say that the motive would be to reclaim the land for government purposes, which seems like what they're trying to do in Maui at least. But uh I we'll we'll we will end it there. So, first of all, uh everybody, if you haven't done so already, make sure you like, subscribe, make sure you go, uh if you're watching from his people or just found us, make sure you subscribe to our channel and or on our ex account. And uh for my people, definitely go give Ashton a follow. This was a lot of fun. Hopefully you guys enjoyed it as much as we did, but really it's all about me. I enjoyed it, so I don't care. But uh no, I really appreciate you coming on, Ash. This was a lot of fun. I look forward to doing some more of these in the future. And maybe we'll jump in here. >> Yeah. Any other time you want me back out there and I just saw the last super chat roll up which was that they say we don't know anything about our history. It's like first of all we don't know much about physics and we also know almost nothing about our history. We can barely even go back 10,000 years and yet look at how advanced we are as biological beings as just technologically. Doesn't that just seem weird to people? It certainly does to me. That's my part. Well, and and you know, there's all kinds of different estimates, but let's say the humans have been around for a 100 thousand years. Like our brains are the exact same. Like nothing has changed structurally if you if you believe in that. And so the idea that we're just now getting into this, and I love what Graham says. He has a saying that Graham Hancock, he says, "We are a species with amnesia." And I think that's true. I think there are some things that you know we have we have gotten to levels of technological advancements in the past that I mean it just makes sense that there were some sort of you know catastrophic events that took place that wiped out a large portion of this and I think still you can still kind of fit that into the box of biblical as well whether you're talking about the flood or anything else. So it is fun to fun to I don't know consider postulate all those things read dur peace out we will leave it at that listen folks we really appreciate you turn tuning in uh Ashton has to get out of here Ashton thank you so much for coming on you stay put for everybody else thank you for tuning in we appreciate your support and until next time stay armed stay Ready.