ENG8 Cold Fusion Reactor Demo

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Hey guys, Ashton here. I had an amazing opportunity to have a live demonstration of the ENG8 NGC cell reactor. This is a plasmabased EVO cold fusion reactor. As you will see from these numbers that are shown on the screen in a few minutes, it shows a coefficient of performance of over three. This is a thermal coefficient of performance. Uh I leave it to everybody else out there to determine what you think of this, but I'm pretty excited by what we see. And I want to go ahead and thank the ENG8 team for doing this demonstration for me. I hope you guys enjoy. Thanks very much, Ashton, for having us uh on your show today. We would like to demonstrate to you a plasma low energy nuclear reactor running. So we've I've been my name's Hlen Back. I've been doing this for about eight years now. We started off eight years ago doing on on a reactor where we use water create to create energy. And the one you're seeing today is it's much easier to see. This reactor uses the water moisture in the air to create energy. There's energy all around us. And the we specifically use the water molecule as our secret to releasing large amounts of energy. And we can do that either uh by producing electricity directly or heat directly. And what you'll see today uh is this reactor producing large amount of photons and that's effectively light which converts very very quickly to heat. The first thing is there's a fan a high-speed fan because we need a lot of cooling to go through the the plasma to create the plasma effect. And then and what we're doing is we're creating a vortex. And the beautiful thing about the vortex is it creates electromagnetic pinch in the in the middle. and the electromagnetic pinch is where we're getting this these this very fine len process happening and then um and then we're also seeing some arcing which isn't ideal but it's it creates large large noise so everyone's got their uh their head their ear defenders in just when it starts up so that's why the noise is actually changing live got it um and we're just going to restart that restart the machine and the computer and then we'll boot it up again and then on the top left hand side or top right hand side whichever way where you're viewing this you'll see this coefficient of performance. It means that we're calculating the amount of energy and electrical energy is going into the unit usefully and then we're seeing how many times more energy is coming out of the machine and in this case it's thermal energy. So the electrical energy going into the the heat coming out and the heat coming out is not like a heat pump. It's like 30 40° centigrade. It's around 2 three or 400 degrees centigrade coming out. So it's very high temperature um is either can either be used to heat something to drive a steam turbine or turbo generator uh to self power the machine. And that's one of our really big things in an extra year is to make sure we got these mach where they are. So there we are. So you've got the pink, this lovely pink running 3.75 three uh times more power coming out than going in. And in a minute what I'll ask the guys to do is to shrink the picture and then I can just talk you through um what we're actually doing to be able to calculate that COP performance. How long can this How long can the device run consistently for? Um, it certainly runs for as long as the guys want to sit by listening to it. Um, we haven't done long longevity trials, but at the moment it hasn't been our main focus. We've been just trying to get it to operate really stably to make sure the electrodes don't burn out to make sure the actual power supply unit doesn't burn out and um also make sure that um yeah make sure make sure the automation process is working well. We've spent the last year um working on the automation system. So we're trying to take take our hands off the controls and just to make sure it's all working itself. rather than tuning like an oldfashioned radio to make sure it works, the uh the computer's doing that. And can you explain once again just how exactly what is the physical mechanism that is being uh used here? Is it some type of similar to the zpinch effect that happens with magnetic uh confined fusion? Uh not at all. Well, we at least we don't pinch those. What we've got here is we have created we have created effectively a small pinch but it's all around the uh the the anodess and the anodess effectively on their surface have got reactive sites where the reactions are happening as well as in the plasma of stream as well. So you see in nature you see ball lightening you know fork lightenings. It's thought of it. It's in that area where we're able to extract the the excess energy coming out of the machine. So you're using a vortex then is that what you told me? Here here we got a very uh we got a high vortex operating here. So what this is doing is this is enabling us to create a pinch. It's also enabling us call those um those those anodes in our just make it much smaller the picture smaller. Yeah. So what we'll do is we'll make the picture smaller now on the screen. There we are. And on the screen we've got things like the flow rate going into it. We measure the temperature going in which is say 33° centigrade going in from the air pump. We've got the outlet temperature which is showing out outlet three at 300° centigrade. Where is that heat coming from? the heat's coming from the uh the fusion of the hydrogen nuclei to produce heliums. It also interesting enough we're seeing the the oxygen in a in a circuit. We're seeing the oxygen also uh become carbon. So so there's two reactions happening. There's like a fusion reaction happening and a fishing reaction happening at the same time. And we can see that by analyzing the uh the gases in the circuit. Um and what we found is you found if we use direct current electricity which are using this demonstration we can basically demonstrate say three times power out. But if we was demonstrating this uh using electricity you could see that five or 10 times more energy coming out of the systems uh than actually it is on it is at the moment. But we don't have the pulse generator in this laboratory that I'm in at the moment. And I'll ask the guys to kill it if it's just really really noisy and shouting. Sure. Thanks, Gonzalo. Anton, just turn off please. There we are. Okay. Wow. Thank you very much. That was that's incredible. And I love the data is great here on the COP as well. I think you did a great job explaining uh in terms of how you're measuring the the heat in versus out. Did you say that if you had a pulseed current that you potentially versus just direct current that uh you could achieve potentially 10 times higher uh efficiency than what we see there? Yes, we do. And the uh what we try and what we've been doing is been as I mentioned earlier, we've been automating the system. And so we needed to be very very tightly controlled because as soon as we send high amplitude pulses of electricity into the system then it's releasing loads more energy and that energies can is focused on the on the on the uh the electrodes and those electrodes can become very hot and just literally just like vaporize in front of you. So the presentation isn't spectacular if you've got pulse electricity because sometimes doesn't last very long. But with the pulsing um with the automation system then we can control it very very accurately. So we can see the temperature of the electrodes. We can then basically fire in bursts of electricity into the system that basically we can see where the optimum point is on the electrode. We can cut the pulses going in and we can surf that sweet spot using the computer. whereas um and also we are we're we're embarking in a new stage this year where we are basically implementing AI on the system. So we have not we will have a an we'll have an AI operator and an AI analyst and and the beauty of that is that I think the anthroposine fund in America we're working with can liner which is a website they have they have an AI enabled library online now so everyone can go and analyze 100,000 uh white papers on uh cold fusion len and uh what we're doing is basically making getting our AI to basically it's all offline is to analyze the machine operating run the experimentation. So we should be able to run experiments maybe a thousand more times more experiments you would do manually analyzing them live and comparing it to 30 years of uh 30 years of white papers to see exactly how we can optimize the system at maximum speed. So I think I think like AI went from zero to mass deployment in in a decade and I I can't see why Elen can't make that jump considering it's taken 30 years to get here but we're now at this our company but also I think six other companies at least are at this are at the stage where they're looking for commercial deployment. So what what are you guys trying to achieve because I I hear a lot about you know in terms of research and development but then there's also of course the whole lingering question of commercialization behind the scenes. Yeah. So what are your goals? So what we're trying to do at the moment is uh get these units working. So we've got like 100 100 kilowatt uh power supply blocks. So whether someone wants electricity or whether someone wants heat um and heat can be in the form of hot air or the or in the form of steam, we can start demonstrating that and testing them at three factories around here. So we've got two factories that need 38 megawws and it's big numbers. 38 megawatts of um of steam. We've got another factories the ceramics and they need 100 megawws of of heating. And then we had a meeting with another big big Portuguese company, chemical company, 30 minutes from here. On one site, they need one gigawatt of energy. So for us, what we're really focusing on is making sure we've got a very solid, reliable, rugged product that's not not pretty and sexy for now, but can be uh can be started to really ramp up the deployment and uh get that into place. the next three to five years is doing that. Once we've really got it got the supply chain running and working well, then we can also license other other companies to do the same. So, uh hopefully we'll have a uh a a production facility in America in about three years deploying the technology in America for American customers and the facility we're developing in Portugal is really for developing the European market. Wow, this is this is amazing. So what if people are then you know interested in this product? People want to know what do you what do you need in order to go to commercial? Are you raising money for a round of of building a device or or where are you at right now on that front? Yeah. Well, basically there's two aspects which one is we we funded by private investors. So we have people investing anywhere from 10 grand to 100 grand is a typical investment in what we do. The more money we raise the faster we can develop. We have about 35 scientists and engineers in the team. So quite a large um quite a large overhead of scientists and engineers. We also have um within the team the commercial managers and everything else keep it together. So that that's that's our focus is basically that 100 kilowatt module in the field operating by the end of the year and then with the ability to to ramp it up. We're also looking for strategic partners. So large companies that need large amounts of energy for their production processes. So whether that's whether that's cooking or whether that's making ceramics or whether it's making steel or making aluminium big industrial processes so we can focus our resources on the big hugely polluting clients at the moment and then within three to five years we should then be able to start focusing on the the more retail the domestic customer. So people who want to power their houses with lowcost energy and by low cost I mean the energy from these machines can be five 10 times cheaper than you're currently paying from oil and gas from the ground or from your solar and wind outside. So it has huge potential and you look at if you look at examples of clean planet in Japan they've just finished a fundraising round funded by Mitsubushi um Toyota Nissan. It's like it's big stuff. It's not like niche investors. Um they're doing well. Uh brilliant in the states raised large amount of money last year. I think it's 20 30 million uh from a few very wealthy Americans to basically commercialize a smaller reactor but it's still an LNDR reactor. You've got the guys in Canada or Energy. You've got Brilliant Light Power I think down in California. So yeah, we've got a it's all over. It's Europe, the Far East, America. There's so much activity happening at the moment. H so I guess uh my next question is more of on the science of it which is uh and and let's say safety as well questions that people are going to have which is how is this possible? My my analysis would be this must be based on zero point energy. The idea that space is not empty is how we could be getting uh over unity kind of reactions like this. So what is your and NG8's justification scientific justification for the results uh that we're seeing? I think I'll use the example of man used fire for half a million to a million years before he understood the chemical processes involved. And we were talking to Brian Josephson last year and the year before who's a Nobel physicist. He got his Nobel Prize when he was think 22 years old. And I I asked him, Brian, could you please write us like this a summary of what you think is happening in these machines? and he goes like no physicists are always going to be arguing about it and that's probably going to be the next 20 years or 100 years. So he said like just get on and make it work. So our physicists um have been in the field for one group that's the George Egley group basically for 30 years. Then the other two people have 20 years in this area the physicists and they they all have different ideas. So even within one company have different ideas but what we have found is you put you either put hydrogen or you put basically water in that creates the you create a very nice stable plasma that's releasing a lot of energy out of the machines. So uh the machine behind me device there which is an energy cell it's it's this it's this big and that is uh currently designed for 70 kilowatts of direct electricity coming out plus 20 kilowatts of heat. So it's almost 100 kilowatt in something the size of a thermos flask. Now you've obviously got the other bits and pieces to put around it but the packaging density is similar to a current car engine. So I can just see in the next like I don't know 10 five to 10 10 say 10 years you won't need as nearly as much battery out there as you do now and in fact you can actually use this process of splitting hydrogen oxygen very efficiently. So there was the uh the guy in the states um who had a car powered by water I think yeah standing mine 1980s and then sadly he deceased rather unexpectedly especially for him and he he basically uh he'd almost cracked it I think because he had a power car that could power a cell phone and from the technology we've seen in the lab here a kilogram of hydrogen contains 33 kilowatt hours of of chemical energy inside it. And if you want to produce that by normal electrolysis, you're looking at 50 kilowatt hours. So it's like you're losing money, but and losing energy as well as money. We can do it for about five between five and 10. So let's say five when it's nicely stabilized. So you've got six times more energy being able to be released than it does to create it in the first place. Wow. So you if you're you know, so many people have trucks out there, diesel trucks, um and they run on HHO. There's a big thing in America is to get your diesel truck or your car rather than just running on diesel. They add say some HHO to it. It's it's an additive at the moment, but it makes your car much more efficient, but a diesel engine or a petrol engine can burn it. What I see in the next 5 to 10 years is there'll be loads of people with with kits going into their cars. So rather than converting over to LPG or putting some HHO in their car, they'll be able to run their car on on on hydro o electrolyed ionized hydrogen oxygen. The beauty of that is you burn it in the engine, converts to water. You don't add the air. So it's disconnected. It's a closed circuit. So your engine effectively is burning HHO. It goes through the radiator, which is effectively a condenser at the front of the engine. It basically goes back through an electrolyze and it just keeps going round and around and around and then you you don't have any fueling costs for your car. You've got mostly all the infrastructure in your car already or your truck or your train your freight train or your generator set out on the ranch. Well, so let me just recap what you just said because I think this is the most vital part for anyone to actually understand the exact numbers of what we're dealing with here is that you said conventionally we it would require 50 kilowatts of energy to produce 1 kilogram of hydrogen from splitting water. But yes, potentially using this process, it could be done 10 times cheaper than that. And that's significant because that means you could do it for 5 kilowatts and you can produce from 1 kilogram 33 kilowatts. So you're getting almost 6 and 1/2 times the amount of energy out than what you would have been getting in in this process of breaking hydrogen and oxygen apart and then putting it back together. Right? So you'd have one area where you're breaking it apart, comes back together over here, break it apart, and you just keep doing that process. And since the overall process produces more energy, it's just perpetual. Yeah. And and to explain that is possibly the American guy Randall Mills with his company Brilliant Light Power. He's he's done decades of research on this aspect. And and he's not seeing transmutation as you would do in a normal LNR reactor. He's seeing the hydrogen state going to a super low energy state and releasing a large amount of photons in this process. So we assuming or our um conjunction is that as this as the oxygen hydrogen are going around it's the it they're not it's the energy state of the electron electrons that are basically going down and down further and then at um brilliant light power they commissioned Delft um university uh to do a study of what happens to this hydrogen oxygen is it safe or hydrogen is it safe and they showed that when you expose this super low state hydrogen to um to sunlight actually the the electrons the the electrons absorb the photons and the uh the the the hydrogen atom returns to its normal uh normal energy states. Wow. So it's almost like this eternal energy eternal energy system because you don't you're not you're not burning anything you're not consuming anything other than converting photons electrons electrons to photons. It's almost like our whole universe is one big energy system almost like the water table on earth you know. So well last question or kind of topic is the risk the safety aspect of this you know I think that it's similar to nuclear power where it was like the '9s when everyone started freaking out about nuclear power. We had a couple of reactor meltdowns and uh then so we decided at least the west maybe in Europe you guys are a little different but in America like we decided to shut down all of it and now there's a push to go back to it. So I have similar questions about fusion power in this I mean if I have a a little fusion pack on me is that thing going to explode in my scooter or on my bike or I mean what's the danger here? Uh well the the interesting thing between classical fusion and fishision reactions is they're producing alpha beta gamma particles basically so neutrons and and that they are very high energy they're very dangerous to DNA so they they they create illnesses these reactions they generally all create something called a condensed plasmoid and a condensed plasmoid is a collection of billions and trillions 10^ the 26 plus um electrons and this huge negative potential basically pulls apart the electron shield of any atoms that come in contact with it and they enable the nuclei to just fuse as you would do in a chemical process but it's a nuclear process. Now this huge negative force for some reason allows photons electrons to escape but it doesn't allow high energy particles as as a neutrons alpha beta gamma radiation doesn't come out. So when we've had the the technical electrical institute of Portugal here with all their detectors they're seeing nothing above background radiation levels. So one of the things what we are very concerned about though is what is the effect of these reactors on uh on plants and animals. So we're going to be doing in vitro testing um in the next like 18 months uh to make sure that we're not seeing any strange effects on the on on um on in in vitro. Then we're going to be growing plants with them next to them. What we've seen from a number of companies is when you grow plants near plasma at the right frequency, it can double the growth rate. You've seen that. I had that on I was literally going to ask like I that's why I was smiling is that first of all I want to thank you for actually researching these things. I think that I know I have a lot of followers who are concerned about like what are the dangers of stuff and and we don't really trust the government to research scientific stuff. So what you said there is there's there's no radiation, you know, which is which is like why and then you kind of like, you know, why is this phenomenon that we see photons get emitted but we're not seeing other particles get emitted. Yeah. Um and then I was going to say yes, you should check to see if it makes plants grow because there is I don't know if it's there's this idea out there at least that plasma can stimulate plant growth. And yeah, heck, you know, you might just figure out that you find a whole new uh commercial uh purpose for this that uh you know, so I think that would be interesting to research and I definitely would want to see what the results are on that. So this technology that's behind me, if we get it really right and we can produce energy, happy Christmas. But if it's a device that's in your home or your car and it's actually doing a benefit from you, it's not like carrying a cell phone around that's frying your DNA in your hand because the high amplitude energy coming out of a 5G, we want to make sure these devices are super safe and actually beneficial for you as a and the whole environment around us. And then I guess my last question is a bigger one. It's more of a societal political one is that I mean we're pretty much talking about in my opinion here free energy and we're talking about efficiency not just producing something from nothing but basically being able to get efficiency where you can accumulate unlimited amounts of energy. Anytime that comes up you have to think of national security. What are the bad guys going to do with this? And I worry about the negative aspects of this somebody making a bomb or something like that. So what are your thoughts in general about how we would prevent something like that happening with any form of advanced energy but in this case you know fusion cold fusion? Yeah, I think um coal fusion in terms of its military things there I think there the coal fusions the coal fusion cats out the bag in the military anyway I think they've used it for a number of years I think depleted uranium warheads when they actually impact on tanks there's not just the kinetic energy involved there's a whole load of elar effects around this and they that can be seen anywhere where depleted uranium is being used from the Gaza Strip to uh Kuwait to Iraq you can Afghanistan you can suddenly see a whole myriad had of different isotopes where the al where the uh the these deplete uranium warheads have been used. So that's sort of an L&R effect from the military. Rumor has it there's a submarine out there which is actually called fusion powered. Rumor has it there's also some very fast missiles out there that are called fusion powered at the moment or coal fusion enhanced out there. So, um, we we basically have devices here that, um, we work on that we, you know, I guess if you stretch the imagination, you could probably put them in a tank, but I think that takes the whole military-industrial complex is probably got the tech anyway. Uh, we try and focus on making sure it's being used for peaceful applications. We're trying we when we roll it out, we'll try and educate our customers that, you know, running around the Amazon with a nuclear powered chainsaw isn't the best thing for the environment. or a tractor, you know, the the supercharged tractor that can just tear up, you know, there's when you get lowcost energy, they they say energy should be matched with consciousness. So, we we hopefully we will have a we will have the ability to deploy it as responsibly as humanly as we possibly can and and also it'll have huge effects. I mean imagine Mhm. India 40% of households are living and burning cowdong at the moment and basically have huge respiratory problems. If they had a device, a little le device about that size in their house, they wouldn't need to be burning cowdong anymore. They could actually just have electricity 24/7. They could have heating. They could cook off the power. Everything. It would completely change the health of billions of people on the planet at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that that's the big thing is that we have to be conscious about the capability of this technology. It's real and it can change everything about our civilization. You just gave us some really great examples there about how it can help the third world, how it can help the first world. Yeah. But there are risks that we can't just ignore. So I'm glad that you're conscious to those. I'm glad that you're conscious to the the safety aspects of what it might do to people and and plants as well. and and thank you very much for this interview and this discussion. I've actually Thank you very much. I've learned quite a bit more actually that you uncovered here for me and understanding on on how this science actually operates. So, so thank you guys and thank you all and we have we have quite a open lab by the way. So, if you want want to come over and check it out, do we have loads of our investors often come over and you know the fan club basically checking out the machine seeing what we're doing. So, um if you've got anyone that comes wants to come over and look, we're we're here. I plan to take you up on that in the future. Thank you. Cool. Thanks, Ashton.