UFOs & Hidden Technology /w Josh (Polarity)

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# UFOs & Hidden Technology /w Josh (Polarity) Malaysian 370 contact switch 120 decimal 97. [Music] Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] Oh, I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, Vishnu. is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him. Takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of [Music] worlds." What up everybody? Welcome to the live stream. Oh my goodness, I just realized. Oh, hard truce podcast, guys. Guys. Okay, if you have been living under a rock, there has been some big drama going on. Wow. Ross Kolhart came out and he said he doesn't believe the MH370 videos are real. Guys, it hurt me. It hurt me to my core. No, just kidding. And I knew Ross didn't think the videos were real since like August of 2023, going back like two years. So no, I already knew that. But it started this uproar of everybody saying, "Oh, no, the videos are fake, what have you." And I had already planned on talking to another content creator, uh, UFO expert, uh, and resident of Australia, Josh Polarity. So, I think it's the perfect topic to start with tonight in terms of what is going on in the UFO community. Uh, what is going on with the MH370 videos and what is going on with the various UFO celebrities and their and their opinions out there. So, guys, welcome Josh to the show. Josh, hey buddy, how's it going? Good, man. Thanks for having me on. You're right. The uh the timing for this is kind of wild. But I mean to have my fellow countrymen call you out like that just days before we'd already organized this um was is interesting. But no, I appreciate you inviting me on. Um pleasure to be here with your audience and uh with you. Well, let me start with how much money to storm Pine Gap to get you to storm Pine Gap. Not me, but like you to go do that. Look, I don't think that I don't think that would end well for me or or for anyone. That would probably be the end of Polarity Channel if we did that. Start a GoFundMe and get it get it going, guys. We'll see. I think everybody's got their price. We'll find out what Josh's price is. Um Josh, so thank you for coming on my show. I guess the first thing I want to start off right the bat is what is your opinion on the MH370 videos? Well, like I said, I've been following you for for a couple of years now. And um I from my perspective, I think they are real. And I look at it from a visual effects perspective because I have a background in visual effects. I studied film. I've worked for a major visual effects company here in Australia as well. Now, I'm open to them being fake because I think you always need to have that 1% possibility, but when I look at them from a visual effects perspective, I think there are just too many things in it that do not make sense from an artist perspective. If we are to go along with the narrative that these are just some funny little plain zap videos that someone just happened to make conveniently around the time that a real plane disappeared back in 2014. So, and especially with the timing of when they were released, um the complexity of the two videos to make them in sync. And I think one of the biggest things for me that I really find it hard to get past is what you call the the Citrix session. The way that um the frame rate discrepancy between the mouse movement and the videos themselves. That to me is just something that again if this is someone just making videos in their bedroom for a bit of fun, you you just don't do that. Like I just cannot think of a reason how anybody would do that. It doesn't mean someone couldn't or wouldn't. But when we think about like the human perspective and the logic side of things, I just can't understand why anyone would do that. Why do you think I mean and first of all obviously I agree with you in general. I think and that wasn't prepared at all for people who are wondering that was Josh just straight up said that right off the bat and I I agree that's the thing about it is that even if you take away all the other additional evidence there is just it doesn't make any sense for somebody to fake it. They're two perfectly in sync clearly at least meant to be military videos. One's in a thermal gradient, which I don't think I've ever seen a fake thermal video before, and the other one's in like still a relatively unknown sensor capability that we're not really sure about. It's like, so how would someone even think to do all of this stuff? It just the psychological profile of someone to fake the videos doesn't make a lot of sense, right? Yeah. Yeah, that's exactly it. Like the psychological aspect is something that I think about a lot because I can look at it from an artist perspective and I understand the kind of decisions and the thought processes that go into making, you know, a three a 3D or a 2D composite video. And again, there are just so many things that would have to be very strange decisions to do, but also kind of signing yourself up for very meticulous long work to create these videos that again, if this is just someone making funny planes out videos in their bedroom for a laugh, then it just it just doesn't add up to me. Hm. Why do you think a lot of these UFO people I'm sure if I'm sure you've noticed this, but if you haven't, let me know. Why do you think a lot of these UFO people are hesitant to talk about the videos? Like Ross, this is the first time Ross Khart has publicly said my name, publicly talked about the videos, and it's been almost two years. Like, what is your take on that? Yeah, it's a weird one. Um, I didn't know that he hadn't commented on it until that NewsNation video. And I mean, I like Ross. I like Ross. Um, I guess cuz he's he's a fellow Australian. And I've always said that, um, I mean, maybe some of your audience may not know this, so I'll give you a little bit of a background, but Ross Kulart was like a world-renowned career awarded journalist before he ever touched the UFO subject, right? So most people who grew up in Australia grew up watching him on 60 Minutes and he would always be covering the big stories going into the Middle East. So he was very wellknown and respected prime time TV and then he just kind of stumbled into UFO world, you know, five, six years ago. So for me, I was like, "Oh, it's the guy that used to be on TV growing up. Now he's talking about something that I'm interested in." So he already kind of came into this for me with a lot of credibility. And I do think that Ross in himself has good intentions. And you know, I don't I don't think Ross is like a deep state puppet or anything ridiculous like that. But I'm kind of aware of the fact that he could be being led astray intentionally and maybe he doesn't even realize that because obviously the people that are surrounding him are a little bit suspect in in their own for their own reasons at times. But when he talked about your video, he said that like you think aliens are teleporting the plane and just like some ridiculous [ __ ] that it kind of made me be like, "Ah man, Ross, really?" Like I like you, dude, but you you're trying to debunk this with reasons that Ashton isn't even posing as a fact. So, it makes it look like you haven't researched this by looking at Ashton's work. you've kind of researched this by just listening to people who were trying to debunk it. And I was just like, man, that's that's a real shame that you did that. You know, that was that's funny you brought that up because that was my first thought, too. So, I saw like I didn't watch it in real time. I saw the clip from Red Panda. I was working and I saw that and I'm like, "Wow, it's 5 minutes long." And I'm like, "Okay, how is this going to go?" You know, and I'm like, "Is he going to have some, you know, new research thing or something?" And right off the bat, he's like, "Oh, aliens zap the plane." And I'm going, "Wait, what?" I'm like, "Come on, Ross." Like, really? Like, you know, it just goes to show that, yeah, he didn't do any research into it at all. Like, not really coming at it from an honest, like, unbiased perspective. Um, but actually, my opinion still is is the same as yours. Like, yes, I've been giving Ross a lot of [ __ ] mostly because Tupacabra made like an incredible deep state video about deep state Ross, which this is a good video. Um, but no, I I think that is funny. Yeah, to your point though, I think Ross, if anything, might just be getting like, yeah, led astray potentially. And it's not hard to imagine a scenario where that happens. You know, you've got sources, contacts. You want to keep those sources and contacts. You know, you you listen to certain people, what have you. Um, and I think that's what uh may have happened when he said, "Oh, well, I had my NGA contact. My NGA contact says that's not, you know, what satellite surveillance looks like or what have you." It's like, well, okay, you know, what are we looking at here? Because there's got to be tons of different surveillance systems. I don't think that one person just has access to all the different surveillance systems. I seriously doubt the one we're using generally for like NGA is the same one we use for like Black Ops, you know? I'm guaranteed that they have it like sequestered uh and segmented off so that it's compartmentalized. So when you say stuff like that, like and the problem with that was I knew he made that opinion so early on. That was like the first month of the case that he did that and I found out because I saw leaked messages from between him and some other people. And so like that was so early. It's like we had we don't even know what we're looking at just because it says satellite video in the video. We don't even know if it really is at that point. So that's the part where I you should be suspect if anybody who's trying to tell you, oh no, that doesn't look right or what have you early on because those videos are real. The significance is huge. So it should be more of like, okay, what is that that I'm looking at? Explain to me what you think I'm looking at here, what have you, how it's similar, what have you, to existing apparatus. Because the point being, if that is some system that is proprietary to the governments for black projects, then that's huge evidence that's real, right? Because like how would somebody know to fake something that looks like that? Um, exactly. So, uh, I guess then what do you what do you think the reason is? Assuming like let's just let's take give Ross the benefit of the doubt, which I think I'm going to do as well. And I don't want people harassing Ross about it. And by the way, I know guys, the reason why Ross is talking about the same reason why other people have talked about it is that they are getting slammed by you all out there watching right now. Like you guys are messaging them going like, "What do you think about the plane? What do you think about, you know, Ashen stuff?" Like, yeah. And Josh is even shaking his head or nod his head in agreement because, you know, he knows people ask these questions. You know, they ask content creators what do they think about this stuff all the time. So that's why he's bringing it up. That's why he's mentioning it finally. So then what do you think the reason is? Everybody shied away from it, you know, like even Jeremy Corbell still never said anything about it. Um, Lou Alzando mentioned it one time on Glenn Beck and said some people he's talked to think it's real. Some people are adamantly against it. And then like Steven Greer mentioned it one time said it's his guys tell him it's a real Einstein Rosen Bridge. Why do you think so many but all that's all like that's all the mentions ever in like uology. Why do you think people are so shy to talk about it? Uh, it's a good question. I'm glad you asked that one. I think there's a couple of things. I think f I think first of all there is this especially because I would say probably majority of the audience are American and obviously the American government or military are kind of caught up in this. So I think there's a big patriotic side that people perhaps don't want to even just entertain the idea that their own country would do something like this. I think that's a big roadblock to get past first. Um, but also I what I find interesting is that it for some people I think it's just flat out too crazy the fact that a plane could be teleported. And I've talked about this on my channel a little bit before that people subconsciously draw this line in their head of crazy, right? And I find it really interesting how we're so desensitized to the idea of UFOs, aliens. I mean, you know, we've got Lieutenant Colonel John Blitch coming out talking about seven foot manted beings abducting him, right? But and up to that point, because we're getting desensitized to it, people are like, "Okay, all right. Yeah, 7 foot mantids, reptilians, like whatever." Like that this is all part of the conversation now. But for some reason, when it's like teleporting a plane, well, now the line has been drawn. Now all of a sudden it's just too crazy and people don't want to go there. And I just find that interesting because that's something that people all do independently in their own head. They all subconsciously draw this line of what is acceptable crazy and what is too much crazy. But at the end of the day, we have just as much verifiable evidence for all of it really. But it's just one thing's too crazy, one isn't. It's like why is that? And I think that's just some kind of subconscious trait people have. Yeah. No, I agree with you. And I think it was uh Chris Ramsay. I think it was when he was talking to Jesse Michaels where actually they were talking about MH370 and he says something about like, you know, people message him say, you know, don't don't talk about it. It's going to hurt your it's going to hurt your credibility. Or like some people say like, oh, you're you're hurting the UFO community by talking about those videos. Like Jesse can't talk about it. Is that what you mean? Yeah. Yeah. Jesse said something about that. like yeah, he get he gets a bunch of stuff about it and a lot of people do. It's like what do you mean hurting the credibility of the UFO community? We're talking about seven foot mantis people that's got psychic powers that are abducting people supposedly, right? And like I mean we got a lot of uh you know what convent normal pe workingclass people would call crazy going on in this community. I think it's hardly hurting the community to say that we can also teleport. Plus, let me just throw this out there. Where are these aliens coming from? Are they like, you know, unless they're on this planet, which, you know what, there's some good plausible theories that might be in the oceans or something like that. But let's just throw that out for now. Let's stick with, you know, Stephen Spielberg ET stuff. How are these aliens getting here? You know, I keep saying they're not coming on SpaceX rockets. The speed of light is just simply too slow to get here from like anywhere. Anywhere. In fact, it's the dumbest part of the threebody problem actually is that these aliens are like super hyper advanced and can send these like AI super things to us and what have you, but they can't go faster than the speed of light. So, that's like their one limitation is they're stuck going super slow. So, um so what do I mean what do you think? Like do you think faster and light travel makes sense? Do you think aliens could be visiting us from other solar systems? or are you more of like if there is something here it's got to be like ultraterrestrial like crypted? Well, on the faster than light travel thing, I can't really comment because I'm I'm I don't have a grasp on physics the same way that you do, but I do know that um I know Colonel Carl Nell in in some of his speeches he has referenced uh I think it's Miguel somebody. Yeah. Yeah, you should remember his name. Keep going. Yeah. Yeah. So that that person in the 90s theoretically kind of worked out faster than light travel. So you know I can only take these credible people's um words for what they are. Perhaps that is possible. I mean one thing that I think um is important to think about is that if time travel it's is possible then like if that's been invented I I think actually Jason Georgiani articulated this really well in a spaces recently where he said like if if at any point in time travel is invented then from then on every point in time in the future and past from that point is now kind of like being a a vortex into that point because once you can manipulate time, you can go into the future, you can go into the past. Like once it's solved, it's solved. And now it's it kind of exists through all timelines and history, which is a pretty mind-bending thing to think about. And basically unless you agree that we are the pinnacle of invention and the further society has gone and I mean you could argue that the pyramids and there are a lot of evidence to say that we aren't then perhaps it has been invented and perhaps timelines are being manipulated but on so sorry to get back to the other part of your question. No, no, you're good. Um, I think like my personal hypothesis is that these extraterrestrials, these non-human intelligences are probably here. They probably already have been here. They've probably been here for a long time and coexisting alongside us. Um, but perhaps in another I don't know if the word like dimension is the right word because I feel like that makes it feel like Stranger Things like we're going into the upside down or something like that, but something like that. They're somehow coexisting with us in a way that, you know, they don't put on a backpack and get on the bus and do a 9 to5 every day. They're kind of here, but they're not with our civilization. Huh. Interesting. Yeah, I want to explore that a little bit more. I think I've been too harsh on the idea that they're not spiritual or not extradimensional. And maybe I need to be more open-minded to that, especially somebody that's saying that we can teleport airplanes, which we can definitely do. Yeah, that's good. Let I want to play this clip of Carl Nell. Actually, I'm glad you brought him. By the way, why do you find him to be the guy that you bring up that you're interested in? Why do you find him credible or what have you? Oh, I only brought him up because he is the person who I specifically remember referencing. Miguel Alba Albert Alba something. What is it? Ali Alberry. Ali. Yeah, he's got this might be the clip. I am not sure. Let me see. Uh, Carl. No, here it is. Let's see. Point is faster than Hold on. What? He says faster than light travel is not possible. This is false. Miguel Alabir, a post-graduate student at the University of Don't feel bad. He butchered his name as well. It's ali Mexico in 1994 solved Einstein's equations for an effective faster than light mechanism. NASA has investigated this. Everyone accepts his solution is valid. His solution requires negative energy. In 1960, quantum physics demonstrated or predicted the reality of negative energy. In the 90s, the cosmir effect was demonstrated in the laboratory. The cosmir effect demonstrates negative energy. The expansion of the universe which is caused by dark energy is negative energy. So we have an solution to Einstein's equations that allow effective faster than the light travel. We've got the existence of negative energy proven. This isn't an engineering solution. And this isn't a means where we can go and do this, but theoretically it's possible. Yeah. So, I want to get your impression of that. But before I'm going to taint your opinion with my own beforehand, because when I listen to that, especially knowing what I know now, I'm listening to a guy that's in the know that knows and actually he's just holding back and he feels like he's talking to normie people that like aren't on his level to like even know and he's just trying to explain it to them in a way like, "Hey, wake up. This is actually real. This was figured out. When you come to me and say that negative energy is not a real thing, go look at the casemir effect. Go look at 0 point energy. There is something that we can go down lower and that's negative energy. And I'm just going, "Wow, he's just laying it out there. What are your thoughts?" Yeah, I I totally agree. And he's like, again, I base a lot of my thoughts and theories and you know, that's all they are. I never claim to have the definitive answers, but I base a lot of the way I think about things on the way I interpret people, which I guess you could call sort of intuition in a way or or reading character. But from the first time I saw Carl Nell speak, which I think was probably the salt symposium where he said the, you know, zero beyond zero doubt thing. Um, from then on, I followed him pretty closely and he always struck me as just one of the good guys, I guess you could say, a pretty honest person. um someone who wants who who wants good things for humanity. And I think that was sort of proven with his attempt at least of a controlled disclosure slideshow which he um which he showed at a at a couple of events I believe and the slides for that have leaked since then where he he had a road map for disclosure of how it would kind of go into academia and out to the wider public um talking about you know onlogical truths and restructuring our view of you know where we actually sit um in the hierarchy. of beings. So there was a lot of what he said that made me resonate with him. But I did find it again like with so many people in this space, it was kind of strange how he then withdrew from the the Soul Foundation. Um like he's no longer a part of them, which could be nothing. You know, he could just be a busy guy who's got other things to do. So, you know, we don't necessarily need to read too much into that. But yeah, he is someone who's just always struck me as authentic. I really valued his opinions. But again, there there are a couple of things that go on that just make you scratch your head like like a lot of people in this space. Yeah. And I that's I think a big part of it too is trying to figure out which people are authentic and which people aren't. And then which people are lying because they don't really know anything and they're pretending to know stuff versus people that are lying in terms of they know more than what they're saying and they're only letting off like less. Like how do you distinguish that at all? Especially coming from the outside. I have no idea to be honest. Go ahead. I guess again I I have to go back to and I think we all need to start leaning into intuition more and like trusting your gut and looking at people's body language. Now obviously people can be trained professional liars and you know that's something that you know can be almost impossible to to determine but in the age of AI and where you know people's voices can be replicated that they can be replicated on video UFO videos can be faked like everything can be faked at this point. So, I almost feel like, you know, waiting for the 4K video of a UFO, waiting for, you know, video and photo proof of anything is just kind of futile at this point because what we should be looking at is the fact that there is just an abundance of evidence of witness testimony from around the world independently for hundreds of years of things in the sky, encounters with beings or intelligences that aren't human. So if we just strip back all the craziness and just think like okay are thousands of people independently making up the same lie for for what to just be called a lunatic forund for 200 years 300 years or is there just maybe something to this and I think the answer then becomes pretty obvious. So again, I think you know there are people in this space uh for example like Jeremy Corbell and Steven Greer. They're two pretty good examples. I think I think both of those people get a lot of [ __ ] because of their personality. I think Jeremy Corbel is a very like excited um sort of he's got that like real strong Cali accent that annoys some people like you know he's got the he's got his he's got his quirks, right? And then Steven Greer, it's just, you know, everything has to be Steven Greer's way. He's kind of got a lot of narcissistic personality traits. He's high maintenance. He's real high maintenance. Yeah, he's very high maintenance. And I think there are things from both of those people that that annoy people, right? And that's fair enough. Like you don't have to like everybody, but I think the issue is people allow these weird like personality traits and these characteristics to distort the information that's being given. Now again, that doesn't mean that everything Corbel and Greer says is true. I don't think that's the case. But what you shouldn't do is just because Greer is annoying to listen to sometimes or Jeremy Corbel is excited when he talks about UFOs and that annoys you, don't let that then just distort the information that's coming in and as and dismiss it as, oh, he's just a grifter. He's just a, you know, he's got an ego, whatever. like, okay, that might be true, but there might actually be some nuggets in there. There might be some little bits that are worth listening to, but if you let your own preconceived biases and your own ego get in the way of listening to someone, you're just, you know, you're never going to be able to make an informed decision because your own ego is just getting in the way, man. See, this is why I bring in the pros, guys. People doubted. They're like, "Oh, was Josh an expert?" Yeah, now we know Josh expert. Look at these reasonable takes he's bringing in here. And that's exactly what I say to people too is that I mean if you're throw they say you know throwing the baby out with the bath water or what have you. They'll say that oh well you just okay I can't listen to that person they're a grifter every they they were wrong about this or what have you know and and and a lot of times it's just something that was completely made up. Then they'll just be like oh they this thing happened so they ignore everything they say. That probably prevents us from getting disclosure, which is going to be my next question to you. But I want to take a short break and hit some of the donos very briefly here that we got because we got some huge donations from Gabriel. Wow. 400 Canadian dollars. That's like that's like real money. That's like almost United States money. Uh thank you very much. Just kidding, Gabriel. Thank you very much for that huge donation. Appreciate you. Wow. Stake this week. Yeah, that looks like that's that was staked in right there. Odin, uh, I think that we we're seeing some new tech next year, meaning a big fair they have planned. Yeah. Have you heard about that? That big like tech fair supposedly. I don't know if it's real or not or just something like on the internet people were saying. I have no supposedly um they were going to like redo uh the world's fair. This was this fair that used to happen like I think in the early turn of the century or something like that where the idea was like this renaissance of technology like and that actually be really cool to do again. I think that would be really popular. You have like Tesla get involved you know AI stuff everywhere. Uh people have do like you know alternative energy stuff man I think that could be yeah I mean it really lines up with um the whole statement that came out recently that the whole manipulating time and space. you guys have your 250th Independence Day next year as well. Like I feel like there's a lot of things that could be um you know lining up for a big big celebration. Yeah. I'm going to pretend like I knew that and and an Australian didn't just one up me on my own show about that. Yeah. Yeah. The 250th. Yeah. It's definitely it's perfect. That's why that was the whole reason why we're doing it. Duh. I knew that. Uh no. Uh, Noble Prince Price says, "Holy crap, you have to see Tucker Carlson's new interview." Yes, thank you very much for this donation. We're gonna actually talk about this in a little bit. I actually got the clip queued up for him as well. Um, and it goes to show all like you were pointing out the Oh, and then there's also just real quick a couple cookies from Matt. Thank you very much. He says, "Could it be extraterrestrial and extradimensional?" I think that if you talk to most people out there, they're going to say it can be like multiple things. very few people are saying like no it has to be this one thing and even for me I'm saying like probably most of what we're seeing is like government technology but I think anybody that says we can teleport planes then you should be able to teleport a flying saucer too right like that to me that means that definitely there's extraterrestrials that can you know move amongst the stars right uh woken walked also gave a cookie thanks um um delicious cookie that's my new uh thing. I'm going to do my emoji thing. Okay, one sec. So the next question I guess for you is what is disclosure you know so you are talking about like you know the evidence and the stories of you know how can we can't just ignore these stories like it's not just a random occurrence that these stories go back hundreds of years if not thousands of years and actually this is also true of free energy devices is too by the way is like these devices like people have been doing that for a long time uh we'll talk about that in a second though. But so we've got this evidence out there. So what does disclosure actually mean in your mind? Is disclosure the president coming out and saying, "Hey guys, we're not alone." Or or what is it to you? This Yeah, this is a really good question. Um I think I feel like the answer is probably not what people want to hear. And I and no, I don't think disclosure is the president um coming up and, you know, telling us we're not alone. And I think we already, like I said, use your brain. We already know that. Like, do you think thousands of people are independently making up the same lie so they can be called a lunatic for 300 years? No. There's obviously something to it, right? So, I think what disclosure is I think what disclosure is, and I feel like this is kind of beginning to shape in the narrative, is actually people reclaiming autonomy of their own mind. Okay. I feel like through mainstream media and through just so much social programming and conditioning, people have totally lost connection with like who they are and who we are as a society. People aren't really kind to each other anymore. People are scared to even talk to each other if you bump into someone at a supermarket. And I feel like through consciousness, which is the narrative that seems to be unfolding, you know, with the idea of psionics and we're understanding that well, you know, we're being told that consciousness can be projected with things like remote viewing. I mean, the CIA has taken this seriously since the 70s. Okay, we like we know that now, right? The CIA take this seriously. And I think perhaps they needed to study it to realize that when your consciousness gets lowered and you get kept in these low vibrational states of like fear, conflict, and anger, you know, all the things that the mainstream media kind of does to people who aren't awake to the fact of what's going on. And you know, they start thinking that their political alignment is their whole personality and that anyone who has a different one is the enemy. Like I don't think people realize how [ __ ] that is and that it's okay to have different beliefs as as another person. Like that's normal. That's life. But what should trump all of that, excuse the pun, is the fact that we are all human. Like that's and that's the most important thing. And we should be treating each other kindly and you know understanding that a difference in opinion is okay and you don't need to hate each other. And I feel like if people began to realize that, reclaimed their own mind, and started to say, "Hey, you're not the enemy. Who who's instilling this system on us and these psychological operations on us that's making all this division and squashing down the middle class?" So, there's just sort of the rich and the poor. Like, if I think if people started to realize that, then an elevated A total global elevated consciousness I think would take everyone's mind away from all this fear, conflict, anger and the whole state of the world would lift up into a much more harmonious place, a much better place. And I actually think that is what disclosure is. And I do kind of think that is sort of what we're getting. I think it probably in their mind relates to, you know, a more like look, look, sorry to go on a tangent here, but my question actually got put on News Nation as well. So, if if you guys remember um the question signed off by Josh about old gods, that was me. And I think a a lot of this stuff relates to that. And I think at least the CIA, you know, people like Alzando, they believe that stuff is real. I mean, look at all the weird Egyptian connections that are in modern America, right? On your dollar bill, oblisket Washington. There's so much weird [ __ ] like that, right? The Grand Canyon. And I think that they believe in demons and all that kind of stuff. So, and like Tom Dong says, an elevated consciousness is like a death nuke to whatever the phenomenon is. So, I'm not necessarily saying the the phenomenon isn't inherently bad, but it I think it can be. And I feel like an elevated consciousness is the way to kind of get away from disclosure being a bad thing. That was a very roundabout way to answer your question, but I feel like disclosure in itself is a very complicated thing and that's probably why it's taken so long. Yeah. No, I agree. And you you made really great points especially about like people being afraid to talk to each other. By the way, nobody come talk to me while at the grocery store. I I don't want anyone talking to me while at the grocery store. But yes, in general, people are kind of afraid to talk to each other. And I I think that's part of the reason why I want to do some of this. uh the raising consciousness. So, here's the thing about this. People in the chat and stuff are saying, "Oh, this is what everybody's been saying, you know, we just have to raise our consciousness." But what I've learned is that that's actually what it is. It really is that. Like, if you listen to what Josh is saying, what does he really mean? He's saying that there's a lot of people out there that are bluepilled, just completely bluepilled about, and it's not like a thing where you're just like bluepilled about necessarily everything. You can be pick or choose, right? But they're bluepilled about the idea that aliens could be visiting us or there could be advanced technology that might exist that could allow something like to happen, right? And he's saying that those people have to wake up to that idea. That's the only way we're going to get disclosure. It's not like you can force someone to just believe what you're saying. and that's not how the real world really works. So I think the point and I don't want to speak for you. At least the point I would make though and the reason why I would agree is that I would say that what I learned early on is that disclosure is not somebody saying something in front of a podium. It's not even wheeling out bodies either. Actually, disclosure is us waking up, us coming to a realization. I think the bigger thing is that what we're being fed is it's like oh the realization of our of you know you know aliens being out there and our place in the universe. It is about our place in the universe but it's more than just like aliens being out there. It's more of like what we're capable of our as a civilization if we have all technology unlocked to us not just like fire technology you know. Yeah. So that's my and I think the reason why like an elevated consciousness is key because obviously an elevated consciousness is when you're projecting and you know experiencing life through through the realm of of like peace and love and you know all that kind of stuff. If this 0 point energy and for free energy is released, obviously we know that there is so much potential for it to be weaponized. Like you can't really you can't give free energy to a technology that thinks it's acceptable to bombs a country that doesn't agree with you. We need to understand the fact that like it's okay when people don't agree and that that's just life. It doesn't mean you have to go and bomb them. It just means that hey, they have a different belief and that's okay. So, I feel like if if we're ever going to get free energy, we need to kind of grow up and reclaim autonomy. Don't let everything offend you, okay? Like, we we just kind of need to grow up a little bit. And I think the best way to do that is probably to unplug from like mainstream news, unplug from people around you who have a victim mentality and start just taking control of your own life, doing things that make you feel good. Um, doing positive things, helping people, being kind. I think if everyone just started doing that individually, the whole world would kind of change rapidly and that would essentially be like a form of disclosure in a way. And I will just add on quickly that I think obviously like UFOs and non-human intelligence are real, but I think they're kind of the perfect distraction in all of this and they're kind of being used to just help, you know, slow down the narrative and just kind of control things into the way like, you know, it's keeping us occupied like are they from Zeta Reticuli? Like maybe, but I don't think that's what really matters here. Yeah. And that I think is their weak point too, you know. And that's why I'm glad I was going to bring up free energy. Obviously, you're down with the idea is that one thing from my journey coming from the outside is I from the outside before I got involved is I did not connect together the UFO phenomenon and free energy. I thought they were two completely different things. I thought they were two, you know, separate things. And what I learned early on is that they are absolutely cannot be disconnected. The reason why you find so many people who are free energy were also UFO, you know, fanatics is because free energy and anti-gravity are connected like manipulating the zero point energy is how you get both of those things. Like the zero point energy is the source of the energy and that must be also then how the aliens are like how where's the energy source for the alien flying saucer, right? Like there's no rockets on that. Got to be using something else. Yeah, there's definitely no double A batteries. Yeah, ain't no double A batteries in that thing. Um, so I thought the free energy aspect of it is the scary part about it to me because then like you said, I agree with you. I'm of the opinion that sure aliens exist. I mean, I think it's silly for anyone who thinks they don't exist. Like, you know how big our universe is? It's it's practically infinitely big, you know, from our perspective. It's just at this point at this point it's either just ignorance or being uninformed. Like if you don't understand that, but I think most people do. Like it's just kind of logical. The thing to me is like to me like a kangaroo is an alien. I'd be as scared if I saw a kangaroo and and I I'm not you know you're Australian so you tell me like if a kangaroo is in a dark alley at night I'm going the other way. Like I I kangaroo he'll get you he'll jab you. Exactly. You know what? That thing is probably more dangerous than most aliens would be, frankly. Yeah. And and I I've thought about that, too. I mean, people always go to the octopus as a as a classic example of like these are intelligences that don't speak English or, you know, they don't speak a language at least that we can recognize and but they're they're living, they're sentient, they're not human, but because again, we're desensitized to them, it's just like, oh no, that's an animal. That's just an animal. But what if like what if an animal came from outer space? Is it still an animal or is it now an ali it's now an alien just because it came from out there but it's still another form of life that is sentient. What's the difference between an animal and an alien? It's it's a non-human intelligence. It's the same thing. And see now you're asking the big question. And see, this is why I have this is why you have earned your pedigree as a UFO expert here because you're asking the real questions that the normie people aren't. The normie people are just thinking alien, right? But you're going, wait, what does alien even really mean? Like if you look at the scale of sentience, we have everything from plants to like lower life form animals and creatures, even bacteria. And then we have actual animals and like our animals sentient. And then we have like their smarter and smarter animals where we get to like whales and dolphins and then like you know octopus which are apparently really smart. Like are these things potentially like aliens compared to what we are? Like they're so different than we are that an alien might come down here and be more similar to us than we are to an octopus. And on top of that too, then we have to think of nonbiological life. I mean, we're on the bridge like the the the like basically AI sentient AI is like about the verge is about to happen, right? You know, it's about to occur in our lifetimes most likely that it's already going like this. You know, it's just about to we're about to get to a point where there's some kind of super intelligence. So then we're getting to a point where like is biological life even like the predominant form of life in the solar system? So the reason why I love your perspective is that we have to probably be thinking way more outside the box in terms of what we think life is. Plus not to mention the idea that like plasma if plasma can be coherent. There were these like two different scientific papers arguing that like plasma was alive which sounds kind of nutty until you think about like why are we alive? Like why is anything alive? Like, okay, if all it needs is energy and this ball plasma can like be around for like, I don't know, let's imagine it's around for like a hundred years, what if that's is that not alive then? Who knows, right? Yeah, it's interesting that that you brought up AI as well and like the fact that, you know, I think it's Moors law, the fact that the increase in computing power and technology in general is just exponential, right? I think it it doubles on itself every 2 years. And I feel like we're at a point now where like that doubling every 2 years is just so huge that like I I like I I like to look at say like our grandparents, right? Our grandparents sort of grew up way before the internet and they kind of probably in their 40s and 50s had to adjust to this new thing called the internet and then all of a sudden there were iPads coming out and you know by that point for most of them it it was getting too much. it's too much for them now, right? Well, we haven't really had any form of meaningful disclosure um in terms of like what the what the technology is that actually exists and all the meanwhile while we haven't been told everything, it's actually doubling every 2 years in the background. So I feel like they need to tell people soon because it's going to get to a point where it's going to be so far advanced that when they tell people it's going to be too much even for like you say normies like not even older people our age when they get told hey this is actually where we're at now. Um it's been doubling for the last 10 years and it's just it you're going to think it's magic but it's actually not. um people aren't going to be able to digest that. So, I think that's probably got a lot to do with disclosure as well is the fact that they need to tell people before it just shatters people's minds. Oh, brother, you hit the nail on the head. That's what I think's going on with the MH370 videos, too, is like, yeah, you've got it's not just normies. People that are like straight up UFO community, aliens are visiting us. They're sending me psychic messages. people are going like, you know, that can't be real because it shatters their minds. And I think exactly what you just said is what occurred is that they had AI and quantum computers in like the early 2000s like 10, 15 years before we got it, maybe even more. And it just started taking off. The AI just starts solving everything like, "Yep, you're right. Here's the answer to the, you know, gravity stuff." Like, you just start feeding it like Tesla's work and [ __ ] like that. Like that. you know, uh, Trump's uncle stole, you know, you feed him all his work and now the AI is spitting out all the answers for you. And then once you get it going, like once you've got your first plasma ball that can float around, you're like, okay, now we're making more plasma balls. Okay, let's get them. What can you do, AI? Tell me what we can do with our plasma balls, like, oh, start spinning them around an object. You can make it zap away, right? Where if you look at it from the perspective of like not having the contacts, you're just looking at something disappear. It just seems like no, okay, that's impossible, right? But if you actually break it down, I say demystify it. Be like, okay, you know, imagine the AI like what breakthroughs is the is the AI figuring out like, okay, space isn't empty. Okay, negative energy, right? We heard Carl Nell just say it. Like it wouldn't surprise me at all find out that like Carl Nell, you know, like the reason why he's saying that is because he's seen behind the curtain. They have their own AI and they're like, "Oh yeah, this thing's like it's just it's a different world." And then to your point, the problem is that the commercial AI is going to figure it out too. It's going to happen again on the commercial side. The same singularity is going to occur. So you've created basically a clock where essentially at some point it's coming out, you know, and like this is what I say is going to start happening. It's already kind of happening because I've noticed AI is really good if you give it the right prompts. And once again, I have to say here, do not tell AI like, is this real? Don't don't ask AI [ __ ] like that's not what AI can do. Ask it like, oh, what do you think about Maxwell's theory of this relative to this scenario, right? Stuff like that, you know? Um, that's what AI is used for. So uh you know the the problem though is that people are going to start wondering why the AI is telling them you know you can produce free energy that you can you know you can produce over unity that here's the answer to fusion like oh here you go here's how you can find your fusion reactor you know stuff like these questions that you think about you're like oh wow this would change everything um so eventually I think that's going to come down and and then the question is you know is there some connection like did they know about this with the AI and how far is the AI I, you know, going to take us. Um, now I kind of want to pivot away from that though and talk a little bit more about the time travel stuff because you brought up Jason Georgiani and I've spoken to him. Yeah. I think he's he's like one of the most wellressearched people I've ever spoken to and I think he's dead on about zero point energy stuff. And um the thing he mentions though is like the time travel stuff. It's like okay if you can manipulate gravity you can manipulate time absolutely but then the question is okay do we know that that automatically creates different timelines? Maybe not. That's that's the part that kind of spooks me a little bit is that there's two predominant views and there might be more. Who knows right? like we're in uncharted territory here. But one is is time deterministic like the show Dark which is where like he sees himself but he doesn't recognize himself because he's an old man or whatever when he travels back in time and he see visits his younger self but you can never change anything like what happened always happened and even if you think you would never do that in the future you did do it. You just don't know why what brought you to those circumstances. So reality could be a situation like that if you can tr go back at all. The other option is you might just not be able to go back in time at all. There might be no way like there might be some kind of speed limit thing that says you can just there's like a time dilation correction or something that always occurs that prevents it. Um, and then the other option would be like the many worlds scenario where like you were saying like if you go back you're basically what you're doing is you're actually shifting universes basically. You're not really going back in time. You're shifting universes to a new universe where time is shifted a little bit, right? And now that's a different universe that doesn't impact the first one. I think it'd be pretty cool to figure out what's going on with those. And if there is some spiritual aspect to it, my perspective from the physics would be that that would be that like that would mean the many universes theory is the one because then some of those universes like you know have demons and weird [ __ ] like that in them. I don't know. What are your thoughts? What do you have? Yeah, I mean the the whole concept of of time travel is very it's it's mindbending, right? It's hard to even begin to really like process how it how it would work, how it how it would function. Um, but I'm definitely open to it being a realistic concept. Whether it's going on actively in, you know, in modern time, I I don't know. But what I do find interesting, and this is something that I've talked about on my channel a little bit, is that if we kind of wind it back to say five or 10 years ago, and actually I'll just kind of weave in here as well, just touching back on the AI thing, right? the whole quantum computing Google Willow chip just kind of came out to the public recently, which means if we if this is public knowledge now, that means this was military knowledge probably 20 years ago, right? That's just the way things work. So it's interesting how in say like the last 10 years all throughout pop culture which I believe a lot of a lot of um ideas are seeded to either desensitize people or to introduce concepts or even to leak out bits of the truth muddled with uh misinformation. So if anyone actually discovered the truth, it's easy to write it off as just a lunatic who watches too many movies. And what became very prominent is the idea of multiveres, right? Through the Marvel movies, the Marvel movies which are which are somehow so popular. Okay, so I worked in visual effects. We did some of the Marvel movies at the studio that I worked at. Um, incredible incredible movies from a visual effects perspective. A lot of work goes into them, but [ __ ] movies, they're so bad. I mean, like, like, who wants to go watch a movie where you know what's going to happen, right? You know that the good guy wins and their villain will probably come back and nearly win and then he'll lose. Um, they're crap. So, why are they so popular? I don't I I don't know. Maybe it's all it's all um a scup. I don't know. But I find it just strange how these movies are so popular and there's so many of them and they are all really introducing this concept of a multiverse. Um, so I think that there is probably potentially some merit in that because I do believe that there are things and ideas seated through media that have something to it. Thank you for setting me up for that. And also what I will say is the reason why it's important is that in order for aliens to get here from basically anywhere, they have to be able to break the light barrier faster, travel faster in light. And if you can fast travel faster in light, you have to be manipulating gravity. And if you're manipulating gravity, you have to be manipulating time. So if they're doing it, they're they're doing time travel. And then the question, okay, well [ __ ] how does it work? What's the consequence of that? like because the consequence of that determines what the implications of them visiting us are. If they come here but they lose 50 or a thousand years when they come here, it's pretty, you know, that's a pretty big consequence as opposed to like an instantaneous travel where you just transmit between one location or the next or where you're just creating different divergent timelines or some crazy [ __ ] like that. Those consequences would be really big if the government comes out is like, "Hey guys, um, so, okay, you're right. We can we have warp drives. You know, we aliens are visiting us. We got wormhole tech, but we can't use it cuz every time you use it, you make a new timeline." That would be pretty be compelling. I don't know. What do you think that would stop you from uh wanting to use it or Yeah. I mean, it's not really I I feel like it would just throw society into into chaos, right? If if people had readily access to this like readily accessible time travel technology just open source. I mean, I mean, it's hard to fully comment on it because you don't I've never used it. I've never fully seen it used, but just the idea of it sounds like a a society and a and a timeline that would just fork off and descend into into chaos. Yeah. So, here's a clip I want to play. This is from the X Files because I think the predictive programming thing is another great point. Like, and these are just things that you'll notice a lot of ufologists kind of notice these things in the media is like this is not accidental. Like listen to how accurate what you're going to hear from the X Files is like it's not perfect, right? But like all the terminology is like correct. You're like, "Okay, what?" So, let's listen to this. Colleagues have had labs burned to the ground and work destroyed by our own government. [Music] It's running on tooidal energy. So-called zero point energy. Simply the energy of the universe. You're talking about free energy that we've had since the 40s. No fuel, no flame, no combustion. Simple electromagnetic field. Technology kept secret for 70 years while the world ran on petroleum. Oil companies making trillions. What I'm going to show you next is the most unbelievable part. That's the original, guys. I didn't I didn't edit that in. That's how it looks. [Music] gravity warp drive. But how uh so I mean how that clip couldn't be more on the money. What the hell? I don't know. That was from like four or five years ago or something like that. He's like toidal energy, so-called zero point energy. Like what the hell? Who wrote this? Where did they come from? Like oh just disappears. I remember watching that back then and I I didn't believe any of that [ __ ] I'm going, "Why is it disappearing? It go invisible." And he's going, "War warp drive." I'm going, "Wait, what? What do you mean you that thing teleported?" Right? Like that's what they're saying. How crazy, huh? Yeah, that that's funny. I feel like I I didn't know that that we were going to watch that clip. So, it's funny just how much what I just said applies to that clip. Um, and I know um, people will probably be surprised, but I've never watched an episode of The X-Files in my life, but you shouldn't admit that. I feel like I need to No, no, I'll be real. I've never watched the X-Files. Um, but but that's because like I saw someone say that um, they don't like my take about the uh, the Marvel movies. I'm just not really a I'm just not really a movie kind of guy. Um, I don't mind TV shows and I but I don't know. I'd rather watch a documentary. I like to I like to know that what I'm watching is real. Um, for some reason that's just the way that I am. Um, and I know that might sound weird from someone who worked in visual effects on movies, but I like the artistic perspective of it, not so much the uh makebelieve film aspect of it. No, I mean most of I mean basically all the Marvel movies have been garbage the last uh I don't know a lot of years. So whatever. I'm not alone then. Um, let me play another clip because there's two more topics I want to talk about. I want to talk about also free energy related to this real quick. And then I also want to talk about a little bit of ancient history stuff because I know you know a little bit about that. It's been in the news as well. So there here's another clip that I'm going to play. This is from Katherine uh damn, what was her name? Fitz. Katherine Fitz earlier today talking to Tucker Carlson. Here we go. Um uh so how convinced are you that breakthrough energy, alternate forms of energy, non-publicly disclosed forms of energy are in use by the US government? I think there's a very high chance that that they're in some kind of use in a very controlled secret way. Yeah. Well, there are tons of indications and you've had right a number of people like at the contractor level like I'm a federal contractor electrician or a you know concrete guy or whatever and I was working on this underground facility. There are a number of people who come forward to say this and I saw what appeared to be some brand new form of energy I didn't understand right insane people too Sean Ryan who's a friend of mine wonderful guy honest man who's a podcaster interviewed did an interview with this guy who was just like a just a random bluecollar guy I think he was a concrete guy you know and he got a call for a million yards of concrete or whatever and went to this underground facility DoD facility and saw clearly signs of some energy source that was, you know, defied the laws of known physics. So, uh, and there a bunch of people have said stuff like that. So, I don't think it's crazy. So, I have a one of I have two businesses. One is the cer report, the other is screens. I do an investment screen. And I think, you know, a lot has to shift in investment if we're going to have a real civilization and not misallocate. I think we're misallocating capital terribly anyway. But he he for 30 years has been an investor in a breakthrough energy company. someone, you know, has been Yeah. Yeah. And and it's called Brilliant Light. You can go look at their website, you know, and and they're really, you know, they swear they've got it. And what is it? Don't ask me. Yeah. You got to get him on. And so, um, you think this money has been taken by people who really uh here's the thing about that. I don't think invest understand the significance of that clip. Let me throw it down like this. For the last two weeks before that aired, maybe last month or a few weeks ago, I did an interview uh I got a private demo to a Cold Fusion reactor called NG8. They wanted me to watch this demonstration. They claimed they have over Unity 3.0 know and they're using Ken Shoulders exotic vacuum objects. It's basically the cold fusion. They call it low energy nuclear reactions now. And so I watched it. It was good. I was having this science conversation with him and he name drops Brilliant Light Power, Randall Mills, that company that she was just mentioning. And he goes, "Yeah, they they he you know, he mentioned other companies and he's saying they're one of the people that is like furthest along with it. So I look him up and it turns out he has this theory that's been you know attacked and discredited publicly that you can get a lower energy state on the hydrogen atom than normal which sounds a lot like the idea of zero point energy Carl Nell negative energy you know so this is crazy because I think most people that watch that aren't going to piece together the connection that I am here, which is the UFO phenomenon, what we just watched with that X Files clip and them saying toidal energy, free energy, zero point energy, and then what she's talking about there where she's talking these alternative or what did she call them? Um, uh, breakthrough energy sources. She's talking about cold fusion. That's what she's referring to. And Randall Mills basically took Ken Shoulders's EVO work and took it to its extreme. What they're doing is they're producing nontherrmal they're getting energy off non-therrmal ultraviolet releases of energy which is very similar to what we think is happening in the MH370 videos. So to me this is really wild because I think there's a serious very very real connection between the cold fusion coverup of like 1989 and ongoing until now where like these people are clearly still working on it and by the way Randall Mills brilliant light power no commercial products who's paying them millions of dollars every year to do all this research he's got a huge lab where's all the money coming from just something to think about so I think there's a real connection between the UFO phenomenon and cold fusion and the connection is 0 point energy. Cold fusion is tapping into zero point energy and I think that some of these balls of plasma that we're seeing as UFOs are just cold fusion, you know, just that's exactly what it is. So, what are your thoughts on any all of that the connection between free energy? Yeah, interesting. Um, I think well, first of all, this brilliant light company. So this is like like a a private just sort of you know I mean like what what I think about is like how is a when we look at people like Tesla and all anyone who seems to invent anything to do with free energy just gets removed you know the work gets deleted and they get removed so I'm interested to know how that works like how are these people potentially making these breakthroughs and it's just kind of public knowledge and and it's okay that's that's something I'd like to let's start with that right away right so right off the bat on that. My working theory is the money is coming from the government. He's getting paid and it's classified. They're just classifying the work. And he basically the deal goes down like this. We're going to publicly discredit you, but behind the scenes we're going to set you up. We're going to give you money. We're going to let you do your work and you we get first dibs on everything. Right? There's no how there's no, you know, this kind of research costs tons of money. How the hell are they getting all this money with no commercial products? Makes no sense at all. It doesn't doesn't add up. So, something's missing from that front. Um, and then there's the other angle, too, where okay, maybe they are on the verge of it and they haven't quite figured it out. Some maybe the government has figured out or maybe some other defense contractors are as well. And truthfully, I I don't know. I reached out to the owner. I reached out to Randall Mills and he was super short with me. like I basically asked for an interview and he asked to see my experimental results. I was like I'm not experimentalist. I don't know what I don't know what he wanted. Um and then he just never responded back. So I don't know. I get kind of weird vibes from it. But I guess my point being when you ask like you know how is this all being kind of hidden behind the scenes? Like I think it's just in a very shady way. And then the people that are investing, like when she talks about her friends who are investing, those are people that are in the know. People that like know it actually works, know it's actually legit. They have the right connections. And so that's why they're investing it when like publicly it's being discredited as like pseudocience. So hopefully that addresses your your first point. I'll let you finish. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Um I guess yeah the other thing that you mentioned is I I think 0 point energy and this sort of stuff is related to let's say UFOs or man-made UFOs like I feel like that's kind of the key or even you know if there are if there are non-human intelligence coming from outside of Earth then yes it probably applies to them as well but I don't necessarily think I I think there are aspect ects of the phenomenon that aren't to do that with that. I I I do think there is I mean like just look at Skinwalker Ranch as just a basic example that everyone can probably relate to. I think there is a whole aspect to it that is more in the realm of like I hate this word but like multi-dimensional um because I feel like it's that's a very like open-ended vague statement but it's I I feel like a lot of it has to do with that. Um, but I do think 0 point energy is a facet of it. And and again, this is why disclosure is so complicated because it's not just about zeta reticular little aliens. It's not just about zero point energy. It's about, you know, um, multi-dimensional beings affecting our consciousness and the technology that could come along with understanding that. Like, there's just so much to it. And I think not to defend the cover up because it's definitely gone on too long, but in a way I can understand why this is such a complicated process. That's what I was going to ask you. I mean, where do you think the line is on national security assuming that it is? And you know, I I dug into the physics and reality is I only find one answer. 0 energy was the answer, right? I mean some people call different stuff the ether uh I don't counter space people have different names for the same concept for people wondering what zero point energy is imagine any cube of just spaceime where you take everything out of it all the molecules of air you take all the photons of light all the heat out of it you would say oh that's empty wrong it's not actually empty there's actually still this 0 point vibrational non non-therrmal energy in there even at that level and it you could argue that it is what gives spaceime its structure. The reason why spacetime has structure is this energy. So if you remove that energy then spacetime no longer has structure. And that's why they're saying that like the idea is basically like taking a piece of paper and folding it in half. Like you're contracting or you're expanding spacetime. You're creating space by like adding energy to the the field the to the space-time field itself. Um, so you know, to me, I think that zero point energy has got to be the answer because that's the only thing I found from the physics standpoint. And it makes sense when all these people are talking about national security in the UFO community especially. That's what I saw all the time. Like, oh, I can't tell you that. Or maybe I even have the clip of Anna Pina Luna where she asked during that last hearing. Um, I don't I guess I don't have it. Uh, oh, I do. Here we go. Sweet. Is is a that true? B, are you guys hearing the reports of that? And C, I think moving forward in regards to technology, Mr. Gold, if you can answer this real quickly. Some of these aircraft, it seems that they are operating off of energy that we don't currently have. Uh, but just yes or no. In your opinion, if we were able to obtain that, would that impact humanity for the better or negative? Would certainly save us some money on funding on Artemis? Definitely. This is a national security issue that if there is such technology out there, we're not the only country that might have access to it. We don't want to be on the wrong end of technological surprise. Okay. Right after that, he was really going for that NASA funding in that hearing, wasn't he? Honestly, this is the most spook response I've ever heard in my life. Like, if such a that is a national security issue, and if such a technology exists, we need to be the first to have it. Yeah. Give us that funding. like are are you ser? And then you know her question was directly related to what the energy source is. So to me it's like got to be the worstkept secret that the secret about this UFO technology whether it comes from aliens or wherever the hell it comes from I don't really care but it's got to be the energy source. And so you know you look around okay what's the history of energy sources? It's like oh free energy Tesla 0 point energy radiant energy atheric energy whatever you want to call it. there's an energy source out there that we can tap into. And that of course to me is a national security issue. What if our adversaries get it? Right? We're you and I are in five eyes countries. So we're we're fine. But what if our adversaries get it? So my question to you is where is the national security line for you? Yeah, it's a tough one. Um basically when will you sell out? How much money? How much is it going to take? How many subscribers on your YouTube channel, guys? I think um yeah, I mean right now I don't think like 0 point energy at least like it couldn't be it couldn't be just given out open source. I don't know if there's a way if there if there's a way that it could be delivered to society so that people's homes could be powered so everyone could have electricity. Like if there's a way that that could happen, but at the same time we could somehow withhold people being able to weaponize it, then I think that that would be a great line to draw. I think most people would be happy with that. Um, but I just don't know if that would be possible because if you if that technology comes out then it even if it's not open source to people like me and you if governments are implementing you know free electricity to their their residents the population then you know it's then it comes a matter of well does the American government do the five eyes alliance trust this other nation with this kind of technology because if they're allowing them to give it to their citizens, then they also they must understand how it's operating and how it can be used. So, yeah, it's a bit of a double-edged double-edged sword. Yeah. And I think they decided long ago there was no safe way or at least they didn't have one back then. And now imagine our previous conversation where we were saying, you know, they figured out that there's this singularity that occurs, what have you, and they got super far advanced beyond the paradigm, but also now there's no way to explain it. And it's also a national security issue where like we can't just give it away because like we basically control the world right now. Like nobody messes with the five eyes countries. We just do whatever the hell we want on this entire planet. So, uh, it's just like this this and this makes sense, too. It's like, why is this UFO phenomena even a sticky situation? Does it like like let's take a step back for a second. Okay, we're on this rock here. We're all living on this rock. People are saying shit's flying around, floating around in the sky, flying saucers, lots of stories about it, right? Okay, if aliens are real, let's just come out. Boom. Aliens are real. Yes, it's a big universe. Aliens are real. It's out there. Shouldn't be any mystery. Shouldn't be even anything to hide about it at all. Right. So why is there this big cover up and what have you going on? M it makes sense that oh it's because there is something going on and there is some technology there is some skin in the game something that's going on and it's a sticky ass situation where it's not as simple as like hey guys aliens are real that that's actually part is simple they've already said all that they said aliens are real right so yeah I think I like oh I was I was just going to say like I think what you're saying is correct and you're I guess looking at it from mostly like a physics perspective and so that that aspect of it is true but I think when you've when you sort of have researched more in the realm of like eupology you realize that and I think even Lu Alzando has talked about this there are people very high up within the programs that cover this stuff up um in the government that are looking at this through a like hyper relligious lens such as like the Collins elite or even in the recent um Harold Malgrim interview with Jesse Michaels, he talked about the Knights of Malta. So I think these like I I think these ancient well I don't know if you could call them ancient but these sort of very old secret societies like they still exist and the Knights of Malta is listed as a military group. Now, they're not like the military in a sense of they're going to go out to war, but they're considered a military group and they're part of consulting on like global economic issues. Like, they still exist and I think they still have a lot of influence. And I think those groups that have, you know, Freemasons, they're inserted at all kinds of levels um of government and military and they have very strong beliefs with a bit of a religious connotation to this topic. So to them it's very like demonic. It's very serious. And I think that also plays a pretty key role into why we're not being told because basically the decision is being made through this very like spiritual um religious lens that it's not a good idea. Yeah. I think so. First of all, I want to know your opinion on Alzando. And then I want to know I want to dig into this Freemason like historical possibility of technology and ancient history as well to kind of wrap it up. So first of all, what do you think about Lu Alzando? What do you think about some of these people? Do you I mean what are your opinion on the people that are like, you know, still spooks but also disclosure advocates apparently? Yeah, Lu Alzando. It depends what day of the week you ask me. I mean, it's so it's so hard. He's probably the one character that I've sort of flipped between like disinfo agent, real, like, you know, so much. Um, and I think it's important in this space to tell people that like it's totally okay to like you don't have to subscribe fully to someone being a grifter or honest. like it's okay to just reserve judgment and just continue to absorb and consider and just let things play out. So, I kind of like to do that with Lou, but I I like I want to say he comes across as genuine, but he does do so he does say a lot of things like, you know, whenever he gets asked a tough question, he says things like, "Well, just let me thread the needle here." like and he kind of does these very like roundabout ways of answering questions which to me doesn't come off as as very it it feels like you're kind of hiding something and the reality of it is that he is and he's kind of shown that right and this is the one thing that kind of gets me is that when Luzando came out in 2016 2017 with TTSA right he he did that because he left at he left the government and he did that to try and push this disclosure narrative out Well, when he did that at the beginning of TTSA with Tom Dong, he was coming out and saying, "Oh, there are these unknown things in the sky. We don't know what they are. They're threats." That was like his narrative back then. And now, if we fast forward to, you know, his book, Imminent, and where we are in 2025, that's completely changed. But he hasn't, you know, he he doesn't work for the government. He hasn't since then. So you would assume that his knowledge on the subject hasn't increased because he's not involved in those agencies anymore, right? But from that point, what the things that he's been telling us has slowly increased. Year by year, we've been getting a bit more from him, a little bit more from what are these threats in the sky to now he's talking about Yeah. like multi-dimensional, you know, non-human intelligence recovered craft. Loheed Martin have a craft like the the story has grown massively. So I can't help but just say why didn't you tell us this in 2016 like it sounds like you've got some kind of rollout plan and and maybe he does and maybe that's not a nefarious thing but but it also could be so you know it's so hard to have a definitive opinion on someone. I I like to, especially in his case, just continue to take everything with a little pinch of salt, but I I definitely still listen. Yeah. No, I mean, it's so obvious there's a rollout plan, right? Everybody's noticing it. You're noticing it. I was like, come on. There's clearly a rollout plan going on here. I think they've like not they've like leaked it, too. Like, oh yeah, here's what the rollout plan's going to be. And I agree. My opinion on him is that he's somebody that's protecting national security. So, wherever you draw that line of that question I asked before, you know, for him it's like, well, we're not going to say the free energy technology because that helps our adversaries, you know, uh, and I don't think Lu Alzando is hiding it because he wants to like keep the peasants down, you know. I think he's a good guy. I think, you know, that's he's a military guy. Yeah, he's a military guy. So, he's gonna do whatever it is to protect America, protect the homeland. That's right. So, I understand. So, and this is why I like even though Ross Kar came out and said, "Oh, I don't think the videos are real." I want these people to get on the record because I want to understand where they're coming from from their mindset because I already know the videos are real beyond any shadow of a doubt for me. I want to understand where everybody else's mindset is to figure out like how we're going to get that conscious awakening, how we're going to wake these people up who don't think that, you know, we have this kind of stuff out there. So, I think that's a pretty fair take on Alzando. So, and again, I agree with you. I don't think we should just even though I think he's we know where he coming from now. Now we can address or we can look at what the information he puts out there through that lens. Like for example, what happened to that whole 23minute video thing? Everyone was so excited about it. Everyone was so excited about 23minute video. They're trying to get information from him about it. And then he says in his book, it's three orbs of energy circle or like playing in a perfect triangle formation. And everybody's going, "Really? Is that in his book?" I haven't I didn't know that. No, you didn't know that, dude. Supposedly being recorded by a predator drone as well. I just went, "What? What?" Obviously, he knows the MH370 videos are real. Are you kidding me? You think there's just an epidemic of orbs of light in perfect triangle formations flying around? That's what the 23 minute video was? No. This was huge news when he wrote when his book came out and people read that and then right after that talks about like asking Hal Pudof about it right after that too. You're like, so this is the part for you as a content creator I would say is like if you take me at my word, I'm telling you like this whole thing is unraveling in front of us. Like, and to me, the MH370 videos are the Rosetta Stone by which I look at those and I go, "Okay, this helps me understand everybody's motivations." Like, this is what's really at stake here. Now, I get why they're protecting national security. Now I get why everybody talks about Hal Pudof like he's some kind of godfather because he like is apparently of all this [ __ ] like the last man alive too. Um and then they've got this roll out plan like they're and they're probably have the same exact thought process that you and I did today which is that they're thinking we've got to like raise the consciousness of people but they're not doing it through like hey rip off the band-aid we've got free energy teleportation technology. They're saying, "Well, aliens are out there, everybody. So, like, start waking up everyone." Yeah. Yeah. And to me, I'm like, I'm not waiting around for that, dude. Are you kidding me? Like, no. No. Let's Let's just get Let's get to the Star Trek technology. What is this? Like, you know, some people are going to hurt themselves or whatever. Well, bro, let's just, you know, this, you know, if it's going to wreck what, the stock market, dude, who cares, man? The stock market's been wrecked like multiple times in the past. It'll it'll be fine after a while. Yeah. I I feel like any great change and any great shift in in anything really, but specifically society in this instance, it never it's never seamless. It's never smooth. It always I think things that are great can often feel bad initially. Like what can what could potentially be like a golden age and a really great future could initially feel to someone who's very shortsighted could feel like, "Oh my god, the world's ending. The stock market's crashing. we're losing our jobs to AI. Oh my god. But if you have a little bit of foresight and you can maybe just like look maybe five 10 years down the road that is going to turn into a a whole new elevated society and a new age. So I think yeah maybe the next few years might be kind of rough. I mean, it certainly seems like people think so when we with all the 2027 rumors that we hear and maybe it will be, but I don't think still like I I always say, what are you going to do about it? You going to sit around and cry about it or you just going to make the mo makes the most of the situation and just get on with it and and just stay positive and keep moving to like a better future, which I'm sure will come. Well, so let's hit the last topic, which is ancient civilizations reset theories. So, I'm getting kind of on board with this idea that like to me I look at this technology I I am on the record many many times saying I think this 0 point energy technology is like oblivion that it's just infinite power. So, we're eventually going to wipe ourselves out which makes me think that this technology might be like a cycle where you just you wipe yourself out, you start all over again. You build yourself up, start all over again. And I think that's a very interesting theory with respect to our planet because we got all these old buildings and things we're like, "Oh, maybe it's like 5,000 years old and we're like, yeah, okay, there's water erosion like that doesn't make any sense." And then we've got like Stonehenge where we can't explain how we've got stones. Like, how do they get these stones on top of these other stones? And we're like, "Oh, that's really old." And then we find Gleec Glbeci, which is like 20,000 years older than that. that's also got the stones, right? And I'm just like, okay, what's going on here? So, what is your take on like the connection between like ancient history and either the technology or aliens or whatever? Yeah, I mean, that's a massive question. Um, there's a lot there and I'm really into this. I really do like this topic. Um I think the the idea of civilizations resetting periodically is definitely a possibility. Um when we look at the whole the the idea that we are a civilization with amnesia, we don't know sort of where we came from, who we are, how did the pyramids get here. Like I feel like we're a civilization with amnesia for 99.9% of us. Okay, we know that you know CIA, governments, the Vatican is the big one. You know there are places where knowledge is kept. So given that then then the question is why isn't the knowledge shared? Is it because it's because it's so scary and horrible and the truth is we are going to be wiped out in 2027 and they just think well if we tell everyone now it's just going to be chaos until then it's better to just not tell them and then it happens and then it's all over or is it the fact that they there's knowledge there that these you know Mr. Burns up in his castle wants to keep for himself and dominate civilization. I I I don't know. Like there's so many different lenses that you could look through it at. And I try to always look at it through the lens that puts that paints humanity in the best light. Like I don't like to think that humans would knowingly treat other humans like slaves and and that and and I and that could be like naive or wrong and it might be wrong but I think it's at least um it's at least a framework that you can look at things through that gives you like a positive experience with it. Did you ever play uh Assassin's Creed? You know that game? I played a little bit of Assassin's Creed. Okay. Little bit of Assassin's Creed. Yeah. So, man, for some reason, I always think about that game. Really freaked me out. So, the first one basically you're playing this game and the story is the guy's reliving the memories of his ancestor and you get to the end and like the big reveal is these Templar that you were killing, they're actually hiding this super advanced technology. That's what you find out. And then you're like, you're back in like, you know, the year 1000 or something like that, right? or like 1,200 and you're like, "Oh, wait, what? There's this secret advanced technology in this game." And then all of a sudden like you're the character like in the you're the guy going back through his memories as his ancestor and he unlocks this like magic technology and this hologram comes up and it's talking but it's not talking to the character. It's actually talking to you the player. Like not even the guy in the memories is actually talking to you the player being like there's this technology that's been hidden. So, it breaks the fourth wall. Pretty cool like that. But I guess the point being I'm kind of curious as to what your thoughts are on this like secret society angle because the angle there is like there's these Templar and they've been assigned to hide and protect this technology and to not let humanity get it and like be our like basically I don't know if you call it protectors but like basically gatekeepers I I guess I think is how it plays out. Yeah, that's yeah, that's a really cool um really cool sounding game and theory and that's something that I've talked about even um when we speak about the terrible truth theory and the fact that you know we all understandably are like tell us the truth you know you think we can't handle the truth you know but I feel like there is again if we want to try and paint humanity in the best light which I think is something that we all would like like to do I I wonder if that the fact is that imagine if imagine if I mean Lu Alzando's actually said this. Lu Alzando said what if the very act of disclosure triggers something that we might not be ready for. So, I've often thought that, you know, what if the truth is that the people who are hiding whatever the truth is about reality is that they're actually like heroes and that they've kind of subscribed themselves to this life of being called a villain, getting [ __ ] thrown at them every single day, but in reality, they're actually protecting humanity that they're serving a thankless job that allows people to go watch their soccer games and drink beer on the weekend and have fun. You know what I mean? Like I think that's a a potential reality of this situation. Yeah. And honestly, I love that that's your view on it. That's exactly my view is that there must be some terrible truth. And then the real question is, okay, what what is the terrible truth? For me, the most likely plausible thing is that we live in a prison. That this is a prison. The reason why there's plans for all this reveal of this technology is that we're basically either in a zoo or a prison or what the hell is the difference at that point, you know, and that we could be traveling amongst the stars anywhere in our galaxy, but we've been intentionally not given this technology. But to your point, another in my opinion very plausible terrible truth is that uh I call it the Guran Lagon scenario. There's this anime where essentially when humanity gets a certain threshold of technology, like once they figure out the zero point energy technology, we go from fire to zero point energy, then the alien overlords instantly teleport in out of nowhere. They just phase in out of nowhere and just start wiping us out. And it's like it's no contest. They have like god tier technology compared to where we're at. And the only reason why they didn't bother before is we were just never really a threat. Didn't matter. They were just waiting for us. like why would we constantly hold them down? It ends up being this cycle where you know they constantly re reset everything and then we constantly build back and once we get to that threshold again they just reset it again and it almost becomes like the matrix where you have just these cycles going on and at some point Neo breaks through the cycles and and finally is able to fight back against this power. I think that's really scary. And how how sick would it be if it did turn out that all these guys that we're calling like counterintel guys or whatever that they really are like pushing some button every day that that keeps us all alive by gatekeeping by gatekeeping the free energy technology from us that prevents that from happening, you know. Yeah. If you if you read between the lines of what some of the things Tom Dong said again in the early days of TTSA, he basically said that like, you know, in the early days when they were trying to figure this [ __ ] out and what's actually going on, that's why they kept it a secret cuz they wanted to figure it out. And then they realized that they couldn't defend against whatever this phenomenon was and that now they feel like they've kind of reverse engineered the technology enough that they think that they can potentially fight back. And this is just this is just my theory reading between the lines of what Tom Dong thinks. So it's not necessarily what I think, but I'm just trying to draw what I think he's getting at is the fact that we've been Yeah. again in the shadows covering this up trying to work out how to protect ourselves from like you said a potential point where we hit that kind of is like a reset button from some other you know godlike power that comes here and resets us and that it seems like Tom Delong thinks that we've been trying to develop technology and weapons that can basically when that moment comes fight back and potentially break out of the prison. Um that's what it sort of seems like he's alluding to and when you look at the way the def like I mean even recently every like five five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five fire five eyes buyers nation has been pushing to increase the GDP spending on the defense budget weapons are the single biggest investment and like the that's like the cutting edge of technology for every single country in the world is that just because we're paranoid apes or is it because the people at the top do know that maybe maybe we do need to prepare for something and maybe as Lou Alzando said the very act of putting the word out will trigger that happening now and we're just not quite ready but we nearly are. We've nearly got enough nukes ready but you know maybe not. I I mean I'm just kind of having a bit of fun with that there. But that is potentially what it seems like that narrative is. Yeah. And nukes are going to do nothing not against a species that has zero point energy. It's just it's like going up against somebody who has an AR-15 with sticks and stones like you know no no chance. And you bring a good point. It's like what if the dark forest theory is the right answer, right? It's like you have to be real quiet because the moment you start lighting yourself your civilization up with zero point energy, the moment you start manipulating spaceime actually in Star Trek the the actual like gatekeep thing is like the moment a civilization makes their first warp drive that's when they're allowed to be contacted. they can't be contacted before that. So to your point like there that's the whole idea is like okay there is this point where you reach it and now all of a sudden here we come right. Yeah. And to your point about fighting back very interesting you mentioned that. I don't know if you've watched my interviews with Salvador Pais or the ongoing saga, but he released a letter through my friend Dave Rossi that one of the lines specifically was I believe in human technology and the context was very clear. The context was using that technology to fight back against alien technology which anybody else I would just think that's just crazy talk. But from Salvador Pais the US Navy engineer that I thought the same exact thing that you're thinking about like what if we've been trying to figure it out that there is some adversary because no matter what the scenario is with non-human intelligence your approach should be to reverse engineer the technology even if you don't know if it's if they're if they're good bad or neutral in any scenario we should be reverse engineering the technology right so it kind of makes sense that we would do that. And then my last question and thought for you then to wrap all this up and by the way thank you for uh coming on and talking with this has been amazing is would you still want disclosure? uh if it meant that we would have to reform society in a way where we have a collectivist totalitarian society so that we could prevent make sure that you know to your point put the guard rails on to make sure that nobody could destroy us. But the way that we do that is there's no privacy. Like we track you everywhere you go and we have red flags go off if you start to build a zero point energy black hole doomsday device. Like where would you stand on that? Yeah, it's interesting. I've actually talked about this question about, you know, is I've I posed it as is the new world order such a bad thing. Um because because it is obviously has such a sinister context to it when it's generally spoken about. But if the new world order meant that, you know, no one has to go to work, energy is free. Um you know, we don't have the daily struggles that we have in our lives. But the trade-off for that because you know how can you uh trust 6 billion people or however many we have in the world. The only way to kind of monitor that is yeah like a totalitarian society. But is totalitarian necessarily a bad thing? I mean I mean to put it simply like if you're being a good person and you know obeying the rules, you're not hurting anyone. You're just going about your business and enjoying your life. What do you have to worry about? Right? I mean, totalitarian doesn't necessarily mean like some kind of hard strict iron fist ruler that's like like a George Orwell 1984 type scenario. It could just mean that like, you know, you don't you don't you don't go around beating people up. You don't rob people. If you do, you will be dealt with severely. And you know, like like if you're going to break those kind of rules, you just simply won't exist here. So that sounds very strict and very intense. But I mean, if the trade-off is like we no longer have the daily struggles of our lives and and we can live in a free and lovely functioning society and that anyone who doesn't want to uh obey that just gets removed, I don't know. Maybe it could be a good thing. Brother, I love that take. You don't nobody you if you ask a top UFO if you ask any of these public mainstream media UFO people they are never going to respond like that because that's a spicy take you know people are going to come and say you know you're basically excusing the WF and the globalists and you're saying that the globalists are right you know like that's going to trigger people a lot but what did you really just say there like but you know if we don't have to have any like we don't have to work we don't have to do anything like where is the line where you're willing to take that that uh to give those rights and that freedom away. I don't have to work anymore. I don't have to do anything. I can just sit on my ass, play video games. Yeah. But see, in saying that, I don't think that in itself is healthy for for human beings. Like I do think human beings like we need purpose. We need I think like we are designed to build, create or fun. We're designed to do stuff. I think a lot of people learned through co that when you don't have work to go to, when you don't have things to do, you it's very easy to kind of like descend into a bad bad state of consciousness, a bad mental place. So again, I'm definitely not defending like the globalists or anything like that, but but but I just I just think it's worth um considering like the alternative and that it's not always such a like these things don't always have to be considered with such a sinister lens because that may not be the case. Yeah. I And I would say we should be realistic about it. There is sinister stuff that happens and the truth is hard choices are going to have to be made. In fact, I would say don't ever let me be the one that decides because I've pretty much come to the same conclusion Josh came to, which is, look, this is going to happen one way or another. It actually really doesn't even matter what we want. Technology is going to advance to this point. We're going to have to do something to keep it safe. And you want to know the reality of what we're going to have to do to keep it safe? We're basically going to have to kill people. We're basically going to have to execute people that fall out of line. people that fought a line that we can't trust with this technology, we're going to have to just remove them from the equation. And you know what's super scary about that, too? It's a it's a wild it's a wild thing to say, but but it's like realist if that is the if that is what we do and we do bring in that technology, then what other way could it be managed? I'm not saying that's what we should do. I'm just saying what other way is there? And here's the scary part. Imagine that you knew that back in like early early 2000s or late 1990s. You knew that for sure we're going to get to this point where like we're going to have to be making tough choices. And then you look around the world and you go, where's the biggest problem area? Oh, we have these fanatics in the Middle East who are cutting people's heads off, who are very religiously devout, who have like basically no respect for life because they've been taught to believe that the afterlife is really the better spot for them, right? Can we trust these people who are blowing themselves up, literally blowing themselves up with this zero point energy technology? And then what do we do? to go wipe out Iraq, Afghanistan, uh, you know, Syria. Meanwhile, who attacked us on 911? Saudi Arabians. Like the point I'm saying here, and I'm, this is just a controversial take here in general, is that, you know, you could see a situation where not every pe not all people in the various religion of this country in this world are going to be able to live peacefully together with unlimited destructive capability. And so we either have to start changing people's belief systems or figuring out another way for how we're going to do this because otherwise there's no way this planet is going to last. Like no chance. Yeah. I mean like in a way I agree with that. But the problem that I have with that is is that the fact that I can't help but see it from an the other perspective as well because not that I condone, you know, anyone being killed ever, but what I do think about the is the fact that like these people who grew up in Middle Eastern countries who were indoctrinated and raised to believe that this this other country is the enemy, what they do is bad. What I do is good. I mean, we can just say the same for us, right? We've just been indoctrinated to believe the opposite. So, who's right? Like, I mean, obviously, we think we're right because it suits the way we've been brought up in our way of life. But who ultimately gets to decide your country is wrong, our country is right. Like, who gets who like that's such a it's such a you know the hard answer to that question. The one that answer people don't want to know. Uh the ones that figured out the teleportation technology first. Whoever worked out time travel first, they get to decide where the line is and who has. I mean, that's the hard truth of the reality the situation. Cuz I thought about that, too. I went, "Okay, like really, if we're really boiling down, we're just getting straight up like, you know, brass tax here. Who gets to decide?" Well, if the United States figure it out first, then we hit the singularity first. We're going to be the ones that just lays down the law, right? Yeah. I think there is there's no moral answer to that. I think you're right. There's no moral answer. It's just Yeah. Whoever's first wins. And then some people say, "Why did we just take over all the world? Why are there countries still? Why did we not take over Russia or China?" Because this is the big problem you realize is that it's the world's not as simple as like, "We just took you over. You're Americans now." Like, what? What do you mean ethnic Russians are going to be just become Americans now? Chinese people who speak no English are just they're just Americans now? You think that's how it's going to work out? You don't think people are going to like rebel? Like that's the thing that people don't real about geopolitics is very sticky. So, I think that like the whole one world government thing, I totally believe they're setting that up. That was probably part of the plan is like, okay, let's move away from these individual governments and we'll make this new one world government, right? And then the people that control that are the people with the teleportation technology. It's still the same people. They just pretend like it's a new group of people, right? And but now we're all the same, everybody, right? Like, yeah. So, anyway, Josh, brother, thank you so much for this conversation tonight. Uh, I think we touched on a lot of the stuff in in the UFO topic that I like to uh think about and I like to hear your feedback and insights on a lot of this. Where can people uh find your content? Yeah, thanks man. Yeah, I had it was it was a great time. I really enjoyed it. Um, I am Polarity Josh on everything. So, I mainly do sort of longer form content on YouTube. So, um, go check out my YouTube channel, Polarity Josh, but I'm also on X, Instagram, and Tik Tok, um, sporadically. So, yeah, everything is just polarity Josh. Awesome. Well, thanks, Josh. Let me just go through a couple of these donos. One thing that we didn't touch a lot on tonight is the religious angle. My personal view is that I I look at this technology and I look at what it means for our universe. And to me, I see God in it. When I look and I see that the universe is like a construct, you know, and I don't see any problem with aliens or anything else interfering with that with that belief. I think that if God exists, God can create everything that's out there personally. Um, thank you Jose for that donation. Thank you virtual for that donation as well. So, thank you guys on Rumble and on PL tonight, guys. And thank you, of course, everybody on YouTube. Thank you. This was another episode of Hard Truths. Hope you guys have a great one. Peace out, everybody. Later. Let's do Oh, this is getting awkward. Here we go. We'll go this one. Infrared eyes scanning the black, tracking the heat, never turning back. And 22, a covert gaze. 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