Advanced Science - Dave Rossi Space 12/29/23

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# Advanced Science - Dave Rossi Space 12/29/23 okay sweet I think I've got it streaming now so sweet welcome everybody Welcome to our space here um Dave pinged me the other day thought might be a good idea if we do a space related to um some of the advanced science Concepts that we've been talking about and of course I thought damn that's a really good idea and I know a lot of people have been wanting to do spaces as well um on Twitter here or X whatever we're calling it now so uh I think that the way this will go down just in the interest of time is we'll start off with uh some introductions um then uh I'll kind of talk with Dave a little bit about some of the science stuff and then uh we'll start to bring people up who want to ask questions and and dig into it um but the main idea here is that we wanted to uh understand the best of our abilities these Advanced science Concepts like how we unify Quantum and macro what the implications can mean in terms of breaking down the SpaceTime vacuum and then we can go into some of the stuff like what does this mean with respect to UFO Community uh uaps that we see flying around Etc um how does that sound to you Dave that sounds great yeah because there was a few things that I wanted to break down to attempt to help clarify some basic concepts for everybody and uh I I really I really like that so we can discuss and then go to um chatting with everybody here awesome man so I think I'm just going to start with I'll introduce myself and then uh you can introduce yourself however you want um and then we can just start getting into some of the discussion I think this is going to be more of just kind of free flow discussion um so yeah let us just talk for a little bit and then if uh when we open it up to questions we can bring people up and people can kind of chat ask whatever they want so uh my name is ashon Forbes I am the uh organizer of MH370 x i call myself an investigator because I've been looking into the MH370 videos and the thing that I would say about what's got me interested is that I feel like I'm in a scenario where as you guys can probably relate that we have like the answer sheet to a test and we're staring at the answers but what we need to figure out is how do we show our work how do we prove that this is actually how we get there when I was in physics class science class math class you couldn't just have the answer you had to be able to show your work as well so I almost feel like we're working backwards and we're looking at the end product and going okay we know how these things can fly now we know how the science can operate now let's figure out how it works so my goal here uh my goal as always has been to just try to understand the science understand the technology and understand its implications on humanity and I hope that we can drive that conversation forward go ahead Dave all right thank you so um first off Ashton thank you so much for putting this together brother I really appreciate it and uh some of you here may know me already uh I am the host of The Generation Zed podcast and then in the last couple years also was gracious enough to be uh through an interesting set of events pulled into the uh Contracting SL Consulting world to try to bring uh a fair amount of this technology out in in conjunction with others because there are quite a few others that do believe this should come out and I think that uh by breaking down a couple of basic concepts uh this may help I guess not necessarily Enlighten but perhaps help people concisely uh discern between the different phenomen they're seeing with craft and and whatnot because there's a few different things to to break down that I'm going to try to do as best as I can as basic as possible and um just wanted to know Ashton if there's anything else you wanted to jump in with or if I can go ahead with it um yeah I mean I guess I'll just listen what you have first and see if it already covers I I wrote some notes of stuff that I wanted to talk to you about but you know I'd rather have you just kind of uh say what you want to say and then I may jump in here there if uh I have stuff I want to kind of expand upon sure thank you I appreciate it okay so couple things uh with regards to I already see some people uh Tagg me in a couple tweets under the thread they're asking me some uh questions and I I will do my best to answer all of them so there's a few different things we have to realize and one of them is that we need to realize that there are a few different we could say apparatuses or avenues that make these craft operate now I'm not saying that I claim to know every single way that these craft operate there's certainly more than one way to skin this cat I would dare to say there's probably anywhere from five to eight ways to tap this type of energy and to tap this type of phenomenon that we're seeing with that said though um at the end of the day what we have to realize is that when we look at something for example like uh what has been called inertial Mass reduction that is basically causing an object to lose its internal weight essentially now something like that in a particular instance would be more so when one is seeing a craft sort of slowly lift off the ground in a certain regard and that is indicative of a slow slow but gradual resonance occurring around the perimeter and arguably inside the craft that is allowing the craft to begin to lift up now when it comes to the concept of when a craft is immediately seen zooming off to the point where it almost doesn't even look real that is a that is a separate concept with regards to what we can call graviton emission so that would be a pulse powered situation uh whereas the inertial mass reduction would be more of a spin resonance sort of uh uh method or setup whereas the pulsation that make the craft immediately zoom off again to the point where it doesn't even look real at all um is something that would be a pulsed graviton emission situation now the final thing is the um third concept which is the polarization of the vacuum essentially which means that you are polarizing the sort of like if you were to be put yourself in a boat in in uh in water and you were to make the the boat move quicker the same way that one does when a surfer surfs on water right this speaks to of course the aluar warp drive and all of that now the idea with that is we use electricity and magnetism to create a situation where there are for lack of a better term uh fractal toroids that Encompass the entire craft not necessarily observable to the human eye uh but certainly allow the craft to move at extreme speeds as well as put a warp bubble around it so then it can go into water it can go into different environments and not have anything affected because this electromagnetic polarization the same way that one surfs on water is constantly creating a shift where one doesn't even need to uh where there's sort of a separation uh in the in the vacuum around the craft but without getting too much into that I just wanted to start off by laying out a few of the different concepts that seem to be um I don't I'm not saying for anyone here but in general seem to be misunderstood by many uh which I can understand because it's very difficult to to grasp this type of science when there's not really too much of a foundation and especially when in my humble opinion many different scientists that advocate for the transparency of this type of physics and Engineering are possibly saying the same thing just in their own uh their own ways or terms and so that's when I would very much say that anywhere from 40 to 60% of understanding this is simply uh just I call quote unquote translating from one form of interpretation to another and so I think that just jump in right there Dave so just to reiterate I mean what you're saying is that there's two different elements that play two different uh things at play especially if we talking about let's say hypothetically three orbs that are circling around a plane um right one is that they are freely floating and ignoring gravity inside of essentially a bubble uh the non-radiating barrier that I think we see in some videos out there that allow it to completely suspend themselves from Gravity because now you've got your mass reduced to zero and now you're not going to be affected by the local gravity of SpaceTime around the earth um can you elaborate just a little bit more on that part is that the one that's the pulse graviton emission just so I can kind of separate these Concepts in my mind in terms of what would be causing them and how they would differentiate from a scientific perspective sure no problem you pretty much laid it out fairly well with with what you just said there but with that said to give a very basic example for everyone here and I'll connect it back to the situation with the plane so for example it's always been it's been thought classically that if you had a kid on a swing and you push the kid on the swing eventually you know the swing like a pendulum will oscillate back and forth depending on how hard or soft you push the the the kid in there for the swing um the child will eventually get off the swing and once they leave the swing classically it's been thought that once the swing comes to rest that's it the swing is staying still but in quantum mechanics it's a very well-known understood concept that at the plank or Quantum level whatever we want to refer to it as the swing never stops oscillating just because we cannot see it oscillating after we think it looks like it's still doesn't mean that it's actually still and so the question then becomes is it possible to lock in using perhaps lasers lock in to or with that oscillation now for those that may be saying well is this even possible please know that you don't have to take my word for it you can look for example at what the Germans called the zitter buong effect which I'm if I can uh translate Loosely um if anyone wants to search it up you're more than welcome to it rough uh translates to I believe the some type of uh Jitterbug or some type of oscillation which speaks to what is called the heis uh the Heisenberg certainty principle where if one knows the position of a particle you cannot know its velocity and if you can measure its velocity you can therefore not know its position so you can know one but you cannot know the either know uh both at the same time and so this speaks to the notion that matter at the plank level all around us is constant ly oscillating moving back and forth like a little Jitterbug even though we cannot see it now in the case of the plane if the plane had a particular resonant frequency what what I mean by that is if the metal around that comprised the plane itself had a particular resonant frequency it could be possible to in fact in a certain situation use lasers for example to lock in with that resonant frequency and then create its own form of rotation on its own axis that will then allow for the plane to lose its internal weight it would then therefore allow for the orbs to polarize the local vacuum around the plane and then finally allow for a potential graviton pulsation which would highly be in would highly be indicative of the final uh alleged disappearance that we see on the uh the footage itself that's interesting now what about the like the orbs themselves though cuz is that just the same mechanism that's on a smaller scale cuz I mean when I look at some videos out there and I'm being koi of course uh you can clearly see that it looks like this orb this sphere is just a non-rating barrier it's not necessarily like a metal sphere out there so is it the same concept that would be used to you know cause that to happen a plane that is happening on a smaller scale or do you think that's something different well this is where it gets interesting because and it's a great question because when there are certain situations as I understand it where these orbs are actual we could say physical mechanisms whereas in other cases they could in fact be comprised of what's called a Bose Einstein condensate and for those not familiar it's basically a much lighter version of plasma essentially and if we think of this as potentially being the window between this is where it gets controversial for some uh this is where a lot of physicists have no problem discussing it in theory but the second you talk about you know experiment or practicality they lose their crap but this speaks to the notion that past this plank level there may in fact be something that is not material but is coming through into the material and expressing itself as a Bose Einstein condensate that from a distance would in fact look quite solid to you know for example uh human beings for examp uh in certain situations but under the case of say different Radars or different forms of special detectors May in fact be able to show that it may be not be as solid as it looks with that said though it is also of my understanding that there are in fact physical orbs too so I don't want to sit here and say that um I I I know the exact answer anyone that claims they do in my humble opinion probably is lying but there are a couple different approaches that can be taken there in terms of not just the way they operate but what you're deploying and what you would be operating from the perspective of an orb type situation now the reason for example that we see or that I have proposed in the past on your show Ashton is uh of there being four orbs instead of three is because it speaks to this notion of first off to put the physics side for a moment it speaks to this notion of squaring the circle that many of our ancient ancestors seem to be doing I know Graham Hancock has spoken about that extensively but it speaks to this notion of taking all four polarizations of the photon to then induce a gravitational effect now what I mean by that is I'm essentially saying that there's a direct connection between light and gravity and so it has been in the past observed from uh astrophysical scales uh that this isn't in fact the case although has later been retracted whether in uh you know papers published that were later pulled back for quote unquote controversial reasons and so on and so forth which is one of the reasons that uh you so kindly and graciously posted that uh research uh manuscript that I that I put together in an attempt to try and show that this type of science has been around for many decades the papers have been published but they either get retracted or very mysteriously disappeared but it can be it can certainly be done now one final thing that I will say is that for those that may be thinking well is it possible to be do you need a certain type of metal is it possible to you know use any metal well it depends the type of power densities one is trying to achieve with that said though this is where it gets quite controversial but I agree entirely with Dr Sal payz when he says that one does not need any type of special meta material to induce these effects and to that extent I do agree now with that said people have talked about you know rearranging the uh the um the nuclear Isotopes in certain materials to uh induce what are called half Inger spin States because then you can sort of if you spin one say for example piece of metal clockwise another one counterclockwise you can potentially nullify or create a sort of void in between those uh counter spinning uh we could say cones uh or materials that would then create a very similar effect to the zitter buong effect that would sort of break apart that local SpaceTime and create a sort of a void in between the two uh but there there are quite a few different ways and and I've seing some people here also asking why hasn't this been uh let me see here why hasn't it been done and so on and so forth and we we'll get to that shortly I would say that it in fact has but um I'll leave it there for now just to just to let you jump in brother uh sorry I was trying to get back to it yeah and I think this is a good point to say that um I don't think Dave or I or uh none of are suicidal we don't plan to go on any uh permanent vacations to bise or anything like that so uh just want to throw that out there it's just important to repeat several times um and just in case you know you do think that what we're talking about is real which I think both of us do um one thing I wanted to ask related to the orbs again too is one thing like so if they are like a Bose Einstein condensate which just for the people out there understanding why Bose Einstein condensate so important is that this is almost this is where like uh We've looked looked at like I think Anon petrov's uh YouTube videos where he looks at some of the more advanced Sciences on The Cutting Edge stuff that's just come out the last few weeks even where you can have fermion convert to bons and that's kind of what Bose Einstein condensate can allow is that you super cool certain elements like lithium 6 and it goes from being something that is uh taking up space that you cannot have the same atoms take the same space up to a bz on which is like a laser beam where you can focus it down to a single point and I think this speed what da you have the waves making where you have these waves get into a coherent State now my problem with that is okay let's say that these orbs that we see are doing well sorry Ashton brother if I could jump in very quickly please well if we think not even a correction I want to make a quick addition if we think of lasers as very Advanced particle accelerators basically making a particle essentially accelerate slash run I'm trying to simplify as best I can from the moment One turns the laser on to the point in which the beam ends or stops at or hits a certain surface or what whatnot if we think of electricity moving ACR like a little electrons moving across an elastic band for example let's actually hold on let's imagine Ashton you and I stood in a room and there was carpet on the floor and we attached a big elastic band around each other and we started scraping our feet on the floor and then we touched um uh the door knob and we started getting a shock for example a very Advanced version of that would be a very strong laser pulse now the reason I bring this up is because if the photons that are being emitted from that laser the light particles as well as the electrons if we throw an electron beam in there but let's stick with just the photons for now if we can get those photons right after they're pulsed or even before they're pulsed out to lock in with the resonant frequency of in this particular case the plane one would be able to utilize lasers to encompass essentially the entire plane and it it sounds so what I'm about to say here sounds so far out there that uh many people may even laugh at it but if it technically in principle would is possible for a laser beam using what is called a phase conjugate pump pulse width modulator to essentially lift up something as large as for example a submarine and the reason I say that is because there's a difference between the mass of an object and the weight of an object so if we think of mass being the internal Resonance of every object basically everything around us including ourselves is resonating within it at a particular rate has a certain resonance within it and some people you know they've called this scalar waves people have called these this you know many different names and at that to that extent it doesn't it doesn't really matter as long as one interprets it or understands it to the best of their ability that's that's all that matters but imagine every single object has within it a bunch of dancing particles if you you can get the photons emitting from your laser for example to dance at the exact same rate at at uh as the object that you are trying to essentially control you would be able to enable this not not microscopic but macroscop macroscopic effect which would be very indicative of what we we've seen in the um the the 370 footage although not just not exclusive to the 370 footage but certainly something that I in my humble opinion I would say is quite uh um quite quite similar to certain things that I've observed in in the laboratory on much smaller scales yeah and I see two best hand up which I'll let him speak in just a second then um and so is that same effect what would be allowing the orbs themselves to float freely and then if so or if not how can the orb bolt displace SpaceTime itself but then also have this capability to produce its own geodesic do you think that there must be something mechanical in there somewhere uh it speaks to the notion of of um we could say Casmir cavities um putting two little uh you know metal plates next to each other and running a resonant frequency to through it um and then having a whole other set of Casmir cavities on top of that one and that would be one way that one would be able to develop or assemble an orb that could both nullify or polarize or void SpaceTime and still induce the effects needed while remaining outside of SpaceTime but having that for examp example in the case of the orbs with this certain maybe laser beams be within the vicinity of SpaceTime whereas the orb itself is not and so yes ultimately what I just described is conceptually the same way that uh that uh you can describe what you were asking there as well yeah thanks for that Tupa do you want to jump in sorry I just saw your hand up oh yeah I'd love to man this is an amazing conversation uh lasers right uh it affects like light I'm asking um where did the if if indeed a laser could be pulsed at the same rate of an object and um to to affect it are we talking about affecting the light like making it invisible or or as sending it somewhere else if so where else that brother great to see you by the way it's it's been quite a while and uh great question I appreciate it so a few different things that we can look at here because those are great questions so there's a difference between um in the case of lasers actually generating a we could say a gravity wave and if you can if you can control gravity waves or you can emit gravity waves you're essentially opening up the door to everything from uh Stargates to it again science fact begins to outstrip science fiction very very quickly um you start to go into for example there was a paper I think from the late 90s that was called super luminal electromagnetic waves in free space um speaking to what you were asking there uh Tupac uh But ultimately the it's interesting because when you look at how photons work and how photons behave it's possible that within photons themselves there is in fact what you could call gravitons and now there are different types of of gravitons we could say but they all behave um just like electricity does now what I'm trying to imply there is that this is what we call a second order effect or a topological effect so in other words if we had electricity and magnetism meet certain conditions we can then turn photons or light into gravity and where we could for example transport objects would not be an issue whatsoever with regards to things like distance for example because distance is only um we can say one can argue strongly an optical illusion and if one is able to manipulate or perturb those optical illusions relative to the source that you're then emitting the photons from you spa space doesn't become an issue at that point you begin to um you begin to bridge points in uh space through the shortening of time in a certain way if that makes sense but sorry Tupac I didn't mean to drift from what you were asking could you repeat if I didn't catch everything no that was amazing um yeah curious like uh did the would in the m370 case would the orbs have made the craft invisible or sent it somewhere and I think you answer the question in my opinion it would have it would have likely sent it somewhere the invisible aspect it it doesn't really and and actually I think it's on Lockheed Martin's website they've openly admitted to it it it the invisibility factor is something that's very very old school if you can bend um gravity then the light will bend around it so light and gravity waves are very very they they hug each other basically but if you can bend the gravitational wave or field you can then bend the light if you can bend the light you can then bend the visible spectrum that we observe as humans and as humans we can only see photons directly uh everything else is sort of just a you know a little bit of this a little bit of that etc etc and so by bending or perturbing that you would then create an invisibility factor and then amplifying that even more you would then be creating a sort of warp bubble situation as I was speaking of earlier you would begin to polarize the local space around you with that said though I do think that in the case of 370 that it it was sent somewhere so that warp and polarization of the vacuum there that's what we're talking about with the alabar drive right I mean we make a field that you separate yourself from SpaceTime and now you know from the local frame of reference inside the field you know you're going to have a different frame of reference than people who are on the outside observing you this is what allows for you know super luminal speeds to become possible right where we're not actually breaking causality or anything here we're not breaking physics I I think as you pointed out we're just taking taking a new approach to Old physics right and yeah 100% to the point where I'll even give everyone an example here just because at this point it's it's got you know a lot of people have been talk space just crashed hope it doesn't crash the space I can't see what it says how do I how come I can't reconnect come on man what's going on here lit literally won't let me reconnect to the space I can't I can't reconnect I can't reconnect to the space what what am I supposed to do guys come on come on man there we go we're back and gravity is linked with time right it's force over time or whatever right so like that's very interesting very ve very much so time is a a bit of a difficult concept to grasp it's um I mean it might or it might not be it it depends on how one looks at it the the notion is that and this speaks to a lot of what's been missing from physics to uh complete the unified field Theory but if one looks for example or envisions that all around us we can't see it but there are these longitudinal waves that are not even straight waves they're more like super long slinkies that are that INF that are essentially infinite in distance and each Loop or ring of the slinky represents a point where for example I uh pick up my phone and then put it back down I go wash my hands and then uh turn the water off every time I complete a task ask one of those loops on that Slinky has been completed and then sort of like a move like an old film reel we move to the next frame rate or Slinky if that makes sense moving through time right moment by moment choice that would be exactly and that that would be the description of time and so if one thinks okay if we can break that or if we can get out of that um by surpassing the speed of light barrier you would then be able to manipulate time at as well as essentially multiple spatial Dimensions which would then enable the anomalies that we now see which would speak to the notion of well my phone was super blurry when I was filming the event and then this brings up you know people debating online well hold on it was either just a pure pixelation or maybe an actual phenomena happened well I would argue in fact that the phenomena caused this pixelation because the renderings of our cameras do not know how to render this higher symmetry electromagnetic phenomenon and so therefore it's only going to show the flat intersection of these concave events but these concave events are fueled by these slinkies essentially and when you say concave you mean like uh bending into the fourth dimension or something right bending outside exactly which speaks to spin which speaks to the notion of again um squaring the circle it speaks to this concept of you know what our ancient ancestors would Drew on the cave walls of you know spirals over and over and over again again I'm I'm pretty sure that they uh that some of them figured it out and tried to leave some messages yeah can I ask another one question here then real quick is this um Dave would you consider this to be a wormhole in your opinion or is that too crude an approximation of what we're talking about no I I would I um in a certain instance if you're if one has enabled a situation where you're not just making an object disappear into uh an un not set of into nothing basically then that's a little bit different because then you get into some temporal issues there but if you had a situation where you specifically knew where you wanted to put an object from one place to another then it would be a traversible wormhole uh very much like the Einstein ER equals epr yeah yeah and just for people who want to know what we're talking about ER equals epr um and I'm gonna oh sure that's the Einstein that's the Einstein Rosenberg uh Bridge so if we actually let me give a very basic example so this would speak to going faster than the speed of light but let's just put it this way imagine on the surface of a say of a a road or a street where one exists and is walking down the street things are going normal etc etc however there is a Subway underneath right where you are walking and that Subway just so happens to go much much faster than the people above ground and so if this subway goes faster than the people above ground to the point where it goes so fast that not even a second goes by and that Subway is already at it next location that would be an example of how essentially one would be using wormholes to essentially bypass not just uh space and time but surpass the speed of light in in various aspects which by the way for those that may be interested it was shown out of Los Alamos that hurg and viser showed that um it is in fact very feasible to do yeah and then when we're talking about epr then we're talking about uh quantum mechanics right so that just includes has Einstein Rose and then is it P P oh uh yes sorry I forgot his name but yeah e yeah not getting it right hold on epr um but yeah from that perspective what we're doing here is we're talking about combining um uh general relativity which is the large World macro scaled world and quantum mechanics um which is uh pki and the thing about that then is that um people like Susy and Malina have oh I put put his spell his name wrong in my space here but no they've pretty much argued that these thing these concepts are related so that the idea of quantum entanglement and quantum computers is similar to the concept of a wormhole and if we look and go back to the double slit experiment we can see that information is passing faster than the speed of light and we know this because when we're shooting something through one of two gaps we get a wave pattern but when we try to detect it and and look at it it changes it reacts something that we would not expect from science and physics so this would mean that something here is being moved faster than the speed of light this is what brings up non-locality and that's the same concept as from general relativity of a wormhole something's able to move faster than the apparent speed of light and if I can add very quickly to your as your point Ashton if one took a fish bowl for example or even just you know a glass of water and they shot a laser beam through that glass of water essentially what you'll find is through the kinetic emission reabsorption emission reabsorption of the photons going through the glass through the water and all of that you have essentially slowed the speed of that particular laser beam down now let's think for a moment that we know if one puts a human being inside of a body of water where the water is the precisely to a te the exact same temperature as that particular person at that exact point in time that person other than having issues breathing would not know that they're in water and so if we think of that concept and we compare it to what we know as or what we people have called the quantum vacuum or you know the ether or whatever you would like to call it it makes one think okay hold on a second on a much more if we think about those who have done psychedelics you know fractal zooming in and out and all of that if we think about for a second the fact that and I say this in a very crude manner I'm not trying to say that this is my belief but in terms of a scientific H thought experiment if there was a big laser beam that was being shot through say an environment that we would be in that laser beam would be determined by us to be the speed of light and so this notion that for example people have said in the past it's not possible to break the speed of light barrier there is in fact very there is a shortcut there is a way to get there which is why I also think that that speaks to the what we see with regards to this sort of contradictory statements by Disclosure figures and I'll kind of just leave it at that um I think that's representative of infighting behind the scenes some people say this stuff can come out others say not so much so but yeah yeah if we think of that concept of the laser beam shooting through a glass of water um we see some very interesting similarities and it may in fact be more in literal and in our faces than than we may think in that sense and now if we think for a moment that if we combine that experiment with a again if we bring this full circle a Bose Einstein condensate it's possible that if we deployed that Bose Einstein condensate in that glass of water with that laser beam shooting through it it may in fact be possible to notice that the laser beam may not act as laser like as we're used to meaning that the Bose Einstein condensate May in fact create a situation where very at a very uh small level just within the containment of that class there is sort of a a doorway that has opened in a way that normally would not have been possible the same way for example that um when you're inside of a pool it's much more difficult to get to the for example get to the bottom or the deep end of a swimming pool and stay there because of how much pressure there is but if there's a way to break that pressure and sort of create a a void inside that pressure then you'd be sort of creating a shortcut um around a lot of what mainstream physics has said is not possible yeah so what we're talking about here is not Star Trek teleportation but we're talking about Star Trek warp drive right or even Star Wars with the uh Imperial Battle Cruisers that you know go to their super speed uh out there and the thing that I found is interesting after I read your research analysis that you did that I posted was that it was a lot simpler than I thought uh initially I thought this was going to be very complicated but you know it really just goes back to the alabar drive which I think a lot of people are familiar with and then to bring it back full circle with ufology you know I've said this a lot but if there are uaps that are visiting us that are showing these properties that we see I mean they're not going sub light speeds they have to be going very fast speeds in order to get dozens if not hundreds if not tens or hundreds of thousands of light years away from us to us you know we need something that goes faster than the speed of light to quote step Greer the speed of light is too slow that's that that's a that's a very good point so when we think of this notion that for example we so there's there's a phrase that has been that's not really well known uh which is that char parity inversion is equivalent to uh reflection now what I mean by that is if we take for example two particles and we electrically charged them in a Bose Einstein condensate and we met a couple of other conditions electromagnetically we'd be able to find that these particles will in fact appear then disappear then reappear then disappear almost as if the ether or the quantum vacuum all around us is behaving like one big jiggly um oscillating mirror and so when we think of something like that and we think of what we The Ether or the quantum vacuum as a set of mirrors for example the question becomes can we resonate those charged particles and so if we can resonate those charged particles whether we see them or not is not the point but if we can resonate them to a certain degree it may be possible that those particles will be entirely view observable but enable an effect or a phenomenon that is at this at this point I would say IND discern IND discernible for magic but at the same time something that would be um I think would a lot of a lot of mainstream physicists at least would have a very hard time uh accepting the same way that it took like 30 or 40 years to accept the Aronoff bom effect which is a very basic a repeatable experiment that shows um there's a phase shift which implies that something is occurring in The Ether or the quantum vacuum etc etc so and this is actually Ashton I want to thank you for doing this because I think that if we relied on mainstream science we would not get there ever so yeah so the other thing I want to ask then is you know what would it take what kind of power levels what kind of uh requirements would it take to you know break the fabric of SpaceTime you one thing that I've been hypothesizing recently is that you know we've been talking to Bob Greener um and he's been talking about fractal toroids which is donut within a donut within a donut he mentioned I think on the space we or the uh YouTube that we were on the Stream with alien scientists that it would take at least three uh fractals like know deeper and deeper and deeper of the of the donuts in order to achieve a shape that will essentially uh cause like a focus SC of any type of like let's say particle accelerator electrons or anything that you would shoot into it um what is your thoughts on that or what the requirements would be sure well I can I can say one thing which is that um and again I will give as many practical examples as I can and uh I will be honest in saying that this is not something that if I those in the audience listening whether now or later can go and replicate but certainly helps with regards to more of a practical uh correlation so a lot of people have claimed to see craft exhibit extremely bright colors uh before they immediately take off in a very surreal Type of Way um and so I'm going to bring this full circle to your question Ashton and one of the things that I would like to give a hint on for anyone that's willing to to look into this is that if you look at how ultraviolet Pulses from lasers work how they look etc etc it's very possible that what we're seeing when the craft take off are the exact same colors within the ultrav Violet Spectrum which indicate that there is a UV pulse occurring that has now been scaled up and Amplified to the extent that it is able to Encompass and there for transport um an entire craft uh whether it's through extremely fast speeds or going at the speed of light or even super luminal uh FTL faster than light travel with that said I know there was a gentleman that had uh uh he was I think he was a marine and he claimed to see in 200 I think eight or nine a craft in Indonesia um he testified uh quite some time ago I think at the Steven Greer Press Club conference earlier this year as well as uh he was on a I forgot that I think Shawn Ryan was his name two or three weeks back anyways point being is that they what he claimed to see in terms of the colors the way that this black craft took off and all of that uh he what he's describing is identical to an UltraViolet pulse in the lab and if we think of these fractal toroids as you mentioned Ashton we then Wonder okay fractals and we fractals speaks to the notion of you know big small zoom in zoom out etc etc if one can somehow amplify that ultraviolet pulse from a very small level to a very large level using for example uh room temperature super conductivity or using a certain type of uh you know resonant frequency that would Encompass the entire craft one would in fact possibly be able to create those as what we call here in the the name of this space tonight uh macroscopic effects so not just super small effects at the quantum level but bring that Quantum effect to uh full-on observable reality and essentially enable these effects using a laser a laser beam pulse particularly an Ultra a UV an UltraViolet pulse in in particular why do we need room temperature super conductivity to achieve this something I've always kind of wondered maybe that think the people no we we we don't uh to be honest with you we actually don't it it could be done with with um high temperature superc conductors too and and low temp ones you don't there's more than one way to skin this cat yeah but why is super conductivity important in general um because there's zero res resistivity to the electrons uh Within within the bulk material itself and so what happens in that particular case is it just enables them it okay let's let's put it this way and I wasn't planning on saying this tonight but I figured I might as well there's a few different one one approach is an electromechanical approach which involves what we were discussing earlier with the aluminum cylinder spinning and whatnot another approach is a solid state approach which is no moving Parts in that particular case you would then have perhaps certain instances where you would have uh certain superconductors in certain Arrangements that would then be pulsed with a a UV laser or with some other apparatuses that would emit uh in this particular case gravitons themselves so there's a few different um and this is one way that this has been able to be hidden in plain sight with regards to how these contractors develop the tech it's possible to have the tech developed at these fabrication and wafer factories all around the world and then what would happen is you then have it shipped back to you and you assemble the final product in house but the um the power densities the materials the chemistry all of that is all there in order to enable these effects and I I say this in a very unfortunate sense but regretfully but the way the system has been set up whoever devised it or whoever uh whatever set of individuals over time developed it in terms of being able to keep this stuff right under our noses while still having manufacturers develop the necessary materials to enable the effects when lock he assembles it back in their you know home base has been it's been completely manipulative and terrible for Humanity but I I extremely smart I love lock Martin out there we're just we're just calling him out by name now yeah at this point I mean at this point come on at this yeah yeah I mean who else is honestly doing it there's only a few handful of people possible I really like the idea that you just threw out there though is that each of these components can be built in different locations right and then you pull it all together this is one of the requirements in order to keep stuff secret it's compartment mentalization right so people know they're working on Advanced microchips maybe they're working at a company called I don't know free scale semiconductors or something like that right and then they send their piece over to you know ship it to America maybe let's say a high temperature superc conductive microchip something like that you know maybe that's an essential component sure and not and and let's actually scale it back to everyone here that's listening because a lot of people here I believe uh the people that I see here that I do know or know of are very good and very Avid researchers and and I encourage you guys keep going to give a practical and prime example is that there are there are pieces of information on the internet that when are scattered and are not connected in a certain way are considered harmless and uh not a threat to National Security etc etc but when compile if if certain information from all across the internet is then assembled in a particular way it then becomes classified and so it it's something that in fact certain people have in fact stumbled upon and the information is out there for tapping this stuff it's just a matter of how one puts the the pieces together and has to separate the wheat from the chaff essentially and that's one of the biggest problems as well as under understanding what one is attempting to develop or emit uh because again as I said what with uh starting this uh this space here we must realize the difference between inertial mass reduction so getting a craft to slowly lift off and lose its internal weight essentially a full-on graviton pulse and then the polarizing of the vacuum to make the warp bubble these are three separate things but they're all they're all very vital in conjunction with the phenomenon that we see okay yeah great so the nural mass reduction this is something I've been confused about um that I want to just touch on real quick is what allows something to become weightless right is what we're talking about but it's also been used in terms like where you're like Pro protecting the occupants of a craft that's moving at Super luminal speeds from being liquefied as well can you just um kind of separate those two concepts for us are they based on the same idea uh sure well I mean it depends on what one is trying to achieve but at the end of the day for example the inertial mass reduction would be able to create a situation where you can Encompass with a dialectric material your uh you could say cockpit of of your crew and your craft that would then be unaffected by the outer skin of The Craft which would then be in a certain going at Super luminal speeds for example and so the the this speaks again to the polarization not of the vacuum but in this case the polarization between the occupants inside the craft and then the actual outer layer of the craft and the physical environment outside of that craft and so you are separating you are polarizing your state of for lack of a better term existence in other words this is this is spacetime metric engineering for anyone that may be thinking if is this you know P off SpaceTime metric engineering ing it basically is but you would be polarizing your cockpit or your crew from the rest of the craft Itself by having an internal dialectric shell uh or dialectric um en encasement um that would be enclosing you and your crew essentially okay one last thing and then we can take some questions as well that I wanted to uh address is so I when I was watching uh some scientific presentations by suskind and Malina about ER equals p PR one thing that I think they both mentioned actually two different aspects one that we've already touched on which is that if you want an object to be able to go through a wormhole its mass basically has to become zero because if you try to put some Mass through this Wormhole it's a very uh delicate uh situation that's created then it's going to cause the Wormhole to potentially collapse or if other stuff falls into it a potentially collapse think of like if you have a big butt and you can't get through a doorway kind of situation um right the other thing though is that they talked about needing negative energy in order to SU stain the Wormhole and one thing I found that was interesting about this concept which I want to get your thoughts on are what we see in the MH370 videoos an endothermic event we SE an absorption of energy which is really the opposite of a release of energy and I wondered about what's the relationship there between this absorption of energy this endothermic event and potentially the need for negative energy could it be that the negative energy that we need is being absorbed there or is this just a matter of when you break through to let's call it the Matrix the underlying framework behind SpaceTime that the endothermic event is just kind of it collapsing on itself what is your your view on that sure the endothermic event is a result of the induction of this negative energy what we've been discussing this entire time is actually inducing this negative energy in various ways um other than the actual genuine emission of gravitons putting that aside the inertial mass reduction and the polarization of the vacuum and the uh alub barometric uh warp drive and the warp bubble that would all be negative Mass negative energy whatever we'd like to call it essentially yeah okay um let's go ahead and do you have anything else you want to say before we take some questions here no no I it's actually I think we're approaching an hour and unfortunately within the next 20 30 minutes at most I I I myself have to take off so I think it's good if we jump to to questions and I appreciate you so much brother for doing this because I wanted to just do my best to lay out to the community for those that were gracious enough to listen uh the difference to my understanding of what these different effects are and uh and yeah hopefully some people can read between the lines here with respects to um my not just saying that this is theoretical there are it has been done experimentally and I know I don't expect anyone to blindly believe me because unless someone has seen it in the lab themselves I don't blame PE I don't blame anyone at all um but yeah okay so just uh we're going to do questions I'm going to give some uh quick uh rules for the questions here uh I don't want to to hear anyone's life stories uh I know everybody's got experiences that's great we have a limited amount of time so please keep your question high and tight uh and we will try to address as many as we can if you want to speak feel free to request to speak and put your hand up and I'm just going to go in order of who I can see if you don't have hand raising capability wave at me and I'll take a look so let's start with tupacabra thank you again for your time guys uh quick and easy questions Dave uh do does the MH370 video as presented to us you know what we can see do the shape and behavior of The Craft and the whole event itself align with your research uh into this kind of like future Tech to the point where I it's Goose it's Goosebumps like I get goosebumps I've uh yes to the point where yes on smaller scales experimentally yes um this is what one of the things that I was trying to uh try and explain using the research uh U assem uh manuscript that Ashton graciously published for me to to try and get more uh more attention because I wanted to lay a theoretical groundwork with that particular uh compilation of of papers to show that people like Eric Davis have done papers on it showing it's possible 20 25 years ago it then later got retracted um you know some of the papers that were published in that that package that I and Ashton put out there uh are screenshots of papers that are not necessarily classified but they're not public either um and the way that I got a hold of them is a different situation but the point being is that there's I'm very frustrated with the fact that there it looks like there's an attempt to put all this back in the box and although some people may think that it's this stuff is not possible in my opinion it is thank you and one last question um I know that we've been talking for over a year about this stuff and you seem to be on the on the tip of the spear you know even to the point where it's dangerous to talk about it at times right what is the likelihood in your opinion that a special effects artist from 2014 was able to produce this video to such a realistic degree to your current research now in 2023 what is the likelihood and this is I'm just gonna and I appreciate the question brother um I'm just GNA give everyone here my honest opinion anything is possible but in this particular case um I don't mean to be so declarative but I I I would go as far as to say I know for a fact that the effects we've seen in the in the MH370 videos are are precisely indicative of a qu what's called a quadriple mass oscillation moment which creates and induces these this negative Mass this negative energy facilitates the effects um or at least facilitates the possibility of these effects to occur so you know it's anything's always possible and I'm not a betting man but if I was I would bet huge money that that event was was real awesome thanks Dave appreciate that uh Dr one of one you're up alrighty thanks so I'm a full stack Quantum engineer and it's ironic it's ironic that we're talking about Advanced Quantum science yet we're discussing black holes wormholes portals at at our own detriment so you know word to the wise think about how this technology could be useful as opposed to it end in humanity yeah I I appreciate that brother very well said very well said I I couldn't agree more I I really couldn't this this creates a um uh what we could call a dual use situation right which you may know better than myself uh it's the same thing where you know you pick up a hammer right you could uh fix uh fix a bench with it or you can hit someone on the back of the head with it it comes down to that so my question is quantum computers solving all our problems where is the good outcome that's an interesting I'm I'm of the humble view that I think that uh we need to evolve in the dare I say spiritual sense more more than relying on quantum computers to solve everything for us and I say that just because it is of my experience um that and understanding that quite a few of the so-called problems we face today were and I were solved quite some time ago um whether it's through the understanding of this type of technology and and physics or through other things in conjunction with this and so I'm not necessarily saying that the path we're taking as saying you know Quantum AI computers and all of that will fix everything for us is bad but I think I think that we need to re really revisit the like the core core basics of physics science um and and realize that or try our best to investigate the possibility that the knowledge that may enable these effects to practically occur may be so right in front of us that we've actually forgotten that it even exists to the point where it's like holy it's like you're kidding me you're in the lab and you look and you go my God that that's that's the that's what we've been missing and it's like Jesus like it's just yeah so I'm I'm yeah yeah I just want to jump in as well because so I totally agree what Dr 101 just said is really important to me this is actually what I bring up to everybody who I've met who is a prominent UFO disclosure Advocate is would you still be for UAP disclosure UFO disclosure let's just call it what it is if the reality of the technology meant the end of the world world because we have good effects that we can get free energy fusion power we can have the ability to change how Transportation works right we can change the circumstances of millions if not billions of people on the planet I say this all the time this is what my motivation is for revealing the technology and even when we talked to Dr stepen Greer I asked him this question same question Dr one of1 just answered is can this technology destroy civilization and he said yes that needs to be hidden but going to the conversation and argument real quick let me finish this up and then you can jump in okay so then the argument and conversation kim.com had with him is well why don't they just give us the cure to cancer because it's not like that it's like unleashing Pandora's box once you've unleashed the technology you get everything you want nuclear power you get nuclear bombs right we're talking about this technology can absolutely create doomsday weapons potentially doomsday weapons that a single person could destroy the whole planet go ahead Dr one1 you want to follow up yeah so it's actually against our odds that we even exist so Neil degrass Tyson said that if the sun was any size larger its gravitational pull would like throw our whole solar system out of whack if it was smaller we' be moving faster um so you know this is this is not normal that our solar system is the way it is and there's not other solar systems like this so a a shooting star is you know a a phenomenon like a super a supernova is is a phenomenon and the life expectancy of a of a star you know Ms years old or something like that where where you know the life expectancy of a human is 100 years old you know or you know less than that so you know it's absolutely ridiculous that we're even having this conversation because you know people die in in in their youth the probability distribution is is very low compared to yeah no I get what you're saying yeah yeah 100% um one one more thing I'd like to add before we jump to someone else is that this is something that uh I'll probably bring up in more detail in the future but there's um someone that I met along the way within the Department of Defense that had developed a handful of years ago a um graviton or gravity wave detector which was essentially uh something that could see through all physical objects U so it would uh do tremendous benefit to uh combat combating human trafficking drug trafficking etc etc and I encourage people to make of this as they will not asking anyone to blindly believe me but this I'm sure I'm certain and sure this is not the first time this happened but this was the uh one instance that I know of where a very very intelligent very highlevel individual within a very discret branch of the dod developed a graviton detector to combat human trafficking etc etc and essentially was not allowed to have a deployed uh for political reasons uh again I know that may be a controversial statement but it had there have been attempts in the past uh the same way that for example certain individuals get funded by the Air Force or the Navy in in North America and they you know they get given you know a couple million for their project and then you never hear anything after that it's and then you find out later that you know that project got scuttled off to DARPA or something like that well if the project didn't work or the experiment was not successful as was publicly claimed why is it going to DARPA why is it receiving more funding etc etc this has happened time and time again and for someone I saw someone here ask uh is it possible to replicate the theory in the lab if yes why hasn't it been done yet this was one of the examples although I am unfortunately highly limited to the examples I can give um at least for now the saxel and woodwork Woodward example of the rotating aluminum cylinder that was electrically charged that would then lose its weight that's one example of a basic but a proof of concept or proof of principle situation that was recorded was logged was repeated and was just you know quietly dismissed sort of like what jacqu valet had said quite some time ago when he said people write some very interesting papers on some very interesting phenomena they can produce in the lab they claim to get results and then you never hear from it again or from them again yeah and I would jump in and say as well that you know perhaps the answer to the great filter and firmy Paradox is the exact technology we're talking about perhaps any sufficiently advanced civilization uncovers this uh secrets of the universe and ends up destroying themselves I think that's something we have to be very cognizant of um let's jump to some other questions here uh we're going to go to Max next and then I think we'll I'm not sure if JK Philly fan or Star Captain want to talk they don't have their hands up but we'll ask them after we go with Max here go ahead and if anyone else just wants to speak up uh please request and we'll either I or red panda can help pull you up um and I thank you I just want to sa price Ashton and red and Dave and Sam a lot of people in the room but particularly you Gentlemen Just greatest of respect for everything you do everything you put up with and all of your hard work I really appreciate it thank you sir but no thank you thank you honestly but Dave if there is a time at a later date we could possibly speak privately there's a lot I'd like to share with you not sure I don't I don't want to waste time as Ashton said talking about personal experiences but there are questions I've been wanting to ask someone such as yourself for 10 years and it relates exactly to these orbs these spheres of light whether physical or coming through in some kind of non-physical way um you know if I can put it right um the flashes of light that I know that you've mentioned previously because I was getting Goosebumps when I've listened to you talk before because of what I've experienced and so these flashes of light would they be ultraviolet kind of Dopp effect visible to the naked eye they'd say if a sphere was to shoot off at a high rate of speed yeah secondly the trace lines visible Trace lines like a ghosting effect when they shoot off I think you mentioned that on the same talk you gave on I foret yeah that if I could say very quickly that would depend on the material of The Craft itself uh some people have claimed to see things like for example what's been coined angel hair you know falling off of like you know sort of a white Mist sort of material falling off of the craft after it's zoomed off right yeah oh I see so it could be possibly one version not another right I'll go even as far sorry to interrupt you uh uh Max I'll go as far as to tell everybody here that there have been cases I've seen certain documents that have let's just say there have been cases where craft that have taken off in a forest when they're closer to the ground for example after they've taken off the plants that were near the craft during the takeoff were then studied by DOD Etc and the plants aged two years within less than 10 seconds which speaks to the notion that whatever the craft was doing it was harnessing a form of particle acceleration that was able to break the speed of light barrier and therefore manipulate the temporal elements of the plants around it I I think it was not intentional I think it just had to do with the take off of that particular craft but those cases have been recorded over and over again exactly you've just literally answered one of my other questions so time dilation in proximity to one of these objects um if you are a local Observer let's say and you've just answer the question but let's say you're within 80 ft of a plasma engulfed object um and you do not have any breaks in your linear timeline of exactly what happens appears to last let's say six or seven minutes to The Observer that's close but in actuality outside of that bubble let's say of proximity uh let's say 45 minutes have passed um so that would make perfect sense right excellent and then and this is also why there's people see quite often and this is where I would say this is our Tech when i r meaning humans people see craft take off but they quite often they see a huge mist or plasma uh emitted around the craft before it takes off that's entirely because the craft cannot tap that zero point field fer cannot void the local reality or SpaceTime metric around us by simply penetrating solids it needs to penetrate that Bose Einstein condensate that surrounds it first because it acts as the doorway to essentially get out of quote unquote here could I could I ask D silence that'd say many people uh report this of course um how could you explain a an absolute vacuum silence in proximity to an object like this and if you mind if I can bang out a couple of questions and I can finish um the coloration of the orps uh if people are seeing red let's say over power lines high tension power lines obviously the coloration is the energy um and we pick up as a color spectrum but red Amber white uh would there be a temperature drop and static charge in the air extreme static charge could all of these things be uh explained by the physics of this and finally I think you answered earlier about the um electromagnetism being coupled with light at least visible light to the human eye this would explain would this explain for example plasma shards of light emanating from an object which seem to be retracting and extending as if I know this is a silly way of putting it but somebody once put it to me this way as a lightsaber in the movie from Star Wars or something so if shards of light were retracting an extend ending and slow motion waves around plasma engulfed object would that make sense given the physic you understand yes you just described everything that can be done with lasers extremely high voltage uh capacitors and a couple of other things so if I can try and answer that all in one shot this notion of coronal discharge this notion of you know people have allegedly claimed they've seen craft you know like to go near lightning uh because it seems like it there's something that the lightning has that that the craft May in fact be uh uh pulled towards for power purposes or for other reasons we if we think of the planet as one large capacitor and if we think of a Vander graph generator those things that when you touch the the metal uh ball head your hair goes up if we think of that basic electrostatic concept and we think of when you pulse a vandergraph generator with a smaller metal ball you see those very large spark discharges if we think of what we call lightning and coronal discharge in the sky Etc as extremely large um electrostatic pulses it then really simplifies our understanding because then we say okay what needs to be done in combination with sound light electromagnetism and certain resonant frequencies that can in fact induce these effects so in other words Max I would say that everything you're saying I would very strongly agree with and yes the the physics behind it um the physics analysis and all of that is all covered in a in a unified approach that that covers all of what you said there yes yeah for anyone that is interested I would encourage people to look into the work of uh Dr myON Evans he recently passed away but m y r o n myON Evans which he dealt in most of his work I believe was largely classified but he dealt in higher Symmetry electromagnetics and very quickly to make a quick physical and metaphysical connection if we think of a the same way that a a male and a female when uh intimate they birth a child if we think of electricity and magnetism electricity being the Divine masculine and magnetism being the divine feminine if we think of using electromagnetism to in a certain way phase conjugate or make love it could be possible that the birth child of that effect would be a gravity wave so yes yeah um so I think we're going go on somebody else here as well just because we don't have a lot of time Max I appreciate your uh your question questions there you can probably reach out to Dave if you have others that you want to get to otherwise maybe the next space can jump on ask some more um I want a few others so JK Philly fan if you had a question I'm not sure if you can raise your hand go ahead and that's my pleasure uh Ashton and Dave uh the question is um you mentioned electrostatic U field and my question is does the water vapor in this organizing this um electrostatic field at a dialectric constant to create in essence this warp bubble that you're mentioning so is water vapor a key component to this that's all water uh water yes um as well as um certain you can and this is why I say there's more than one way to skin this cat so water is one of them um hydrogen is another one um there's a few different yeah there's a few uh few Bose that's why I'm saying I've when I say Bose Einstein condensate I'm I'm hinting towards what you're asking there I just have to watch my words a little bit but yes yes you need follow up J JK go ahead all that's it thank you for my I'll give the floor to someone else thanks yeah thanks for being here man appreciate you uh star Captain do you have anything you wanted to say hi how's it going there Ashton and everybody doing all right um so interesting thoughts on on this top topic and the technology so I think that uh knowing about the time space warp Tech is one thing but uh applying its use ethically which is what we were talking about is is really the bigger question um Society needs to debate if we want this technology to be made available for the public uh now that we're aware of it so we kind of need to consider like the uh and debate the ethical legal and societal implications um and discover by that process of debate how we are going to govern over that technology should it be made public because obviously there is the Dual sord you know good and and bad uses for this and and that needs to be cons considered and I think by by openly debating that process and like you know how would we roll out teleportation technology and and have that be secure right how do we ensure that there's privacy and security um that are that are taken into into account right how do we prohibit the development or use of uh warp weapons and you know things of that nature because those Technologies would ultimately have to be discussed and and legally looked at and ethically looked at before our to actually roll out anything of that nature right so I think that's part of the bigger discussion Society needs to have if we want to really Advance um you know bringing that disclosure forth because if we theoretically come up with ideas of how to govern that technology and then you know kind of shovel that to the government being like hey come on we can handle this [ __ ] now like we're writing the laws for you um you know kind of get something done they they might look at it a little bit differently than being like well we're going to roll a Teleport technology well the public is is writing the laws for you and giving it to you so yeah roll it out if I can actually add to what your to your question or to your statement there star Captain it's a very great point I would dare to say that this is exactly what's being discussed behind the scenes right now and one of the reasons that I'm for far more transparency on this than otherwise is because what if a lot of what has what if there maybe not on mass but what if to say a fair extent over the last five six decades in especially um what if this technology was tested on people unknowingly and the fact that it was hidden for so long creates an issue where you then have a situation where I'm not saying this will be the case but you know for example people particularly people in Europe and North America are going to demand Insurance payouts from their government because how many fighter pilots good people actually saw something and all of a sudden now you know they lost their pension they lost their family just for reporting what they saw how many people were dare I say and this is where it gets into a very touchy area with you you know things like psychotronics and and whatnot but how many people were perhaps behaviorally affected because of a psychotronic event that was then never never later reported and because it never officially existed and so what what do you how do you deal with that and I'm not claiming to have the answer all I know is that if we hide this stuff even more it's just going to get worse you're going to have people debating about whether an event actually occurred or not when in reality you know you have some you know group that's not even officially legally s IED using psychotronics on anyways you know where I'm going with this but I'm sorry that I can't answer in more detail I I would say that this is one of the the dilemmas that is occurring right now and I'm not saying that we should leave it up to the people behind the scenes to uh even decide it for us which is one of the reasons that I want to engage with the community more through things like this because it it's it's a very touchy subject because a to someone that asked a little while ago well what if you just released the cancer curing stuff for example well what if the core conceptual framework of the physics of the cancer curing is something that within an afternoon could be adjusted to become an extremely lethal psychotronic uh Direct Energy weapon um this becomes the problem yeah and I'd say what we're talking about here is the legal implications I'd actually like to do some podcasts or maybe in some spaces where we just dig into just that in general because I mean you can imagine guys there there's a lot of legal implications let's try to get to a few more questions I think we're probably going to just be able to address a few more that we've got on here mid Jin what did you want to say uh Hey guys uh Great Space um thank you Ashton and thank you Dave for everything it's great information um I'm just going to make a statement um for everyone in here um if you want this technology to be able to help the Earth um we have to advance spiritually um we have to stop um offis skating and you know being KY around everyone and stop the violence um part of the reason why this technology is being um held in secret is because there's a lot of global tensions and you know wanting to um keep this as a weapon uh you know as leverage for um whoever is holding it is you know corrupting um the spirit is corrupting the the human psyche like we we can't keep um like techn technology that is that could potentially change the world as something that should be hidden just because we have tensions you know between each other so if you're wondering what you can do to advance in terms of um getting this out um I would encourage everyone to just love each other um even more and I promise that this will um rever reverberate um across the entire Earth and we you know that way we can remove like the stigma around this subject you know um it's it's a lot of power this technology it's enormous power and I think that the first step to be able to wield it is to remove this the sort of violence that we're sort of experiencing here on Earth yeah thanks M Jin totally agree with you man uh let's do a couple other questions because we don't have a ton of time left um William I think you were up next hello um I think we cannot keep hiding this because it's based on a little trick and as soon as you know the trick you see it everywhere and because you can see it everywhere means that you'll know whether you're being a attacked by it or not so I just have a really simple question because I'm out about can you answer me about what the difference between gravity and magnetism is sure you could say that they're they're related you could say that gravity is magnetism's cousin You could argue that if one manipulated the a field which is the magnetic Vector potential on the theoretical side via the Dell cross operator as Richard fan proved you'd be able to induce um what have been called gra gravito or gravito magnetic effects um I'm not going to sit here and pretend that they're not connected they are uh there's gravity waves are proportion when they're emitted their power intensity and density depend on the um square root of the static B field that is uh perhaps controlling that gravitational um emission so I'm not going to sit here and pretend like they're not connected they are directly hopefully that to explain this it's a little bit a little bit better if you don't mind can I just say it real quick like it is gravity is magnetism it's the same thing and magnetism is what electricity does when you okay so from my understanding of gravity and electromagnetism electromagn ISM has a it's a spectrum so light is on the electromagnetic spectrum gravity is a Quantum scale electromagnetism that Stacks upon itself the electromagnetism we're used to seeing is light and magnets and stuff like that and electromagnets but because it's on a Quantum scale and it stacks and accumulates upon itself it we don't really we can't really measure it the same way but it does have the effect of gravity I would say to both William and to Crow I would say that um I both agree with you I agree with both of you magnetism cancels out gravity now there's a difference between this is why I was trying to discern the difference earlier a difference between the cancellation or the Nullification of gravity within the vicinity of a magnetic uh fluctuation or a magnetic event compared to the actual genuine emission of uh gravitons or gravity waves but with that said I do very strongly agre agree that magnetism is directly correlated it's not a coincidence that um craft have been UAP UFO have been seen all over the planet very close to very strange geomagnetic anomalies um I will not sit here and pretend like that's not that's not the case you look for example at even prime numbers work gravity is like the prime number and and electromagnetism and regular magnetism are like higher forms of that but it's like it's like when you stack enough gravity on top of each other it's a whole another thing but gravity is its own thing in itself that's much stronger but it has similar effects uh if I'm understanding you correctly I would agree yeah the be the gra the behavior of the gravitational uh waves Fields effects are behaviorally likened and Akin and connected to that we could possibly say through an entanglement to that of electromagnetic uh foundations yep so uh appreciate that um Dr 101 I think we'll have you do the last question if you have a followup okay great so I'm going to say a theoretical premise that is um based on the scientific method of proving a hypothesis so solid liquid gas atoms the way that the atoms are arranged in a solid is they're they're um more closer together and then in in a liquid they the the atoms are are uh well H2O but are L are looser and then in a gas it's much the atoms are much free freely so on the quantum level of of of an atom the the the proton neutron is in the nucleus while the electron is on the the outer edge and then so even a atom has empty space in it so all things are either made up of atoms or the absence of of space in in an atom so the human brain let's say the human brain is solid but the the the the the the synapses and the neurons in the brain functioning you know like memory would be you know um the quantum Neurology of an idea of a thought so the the premise and theory is that I've neural well the brain is quantum AGI Quantum AI the the brain is quantum Ai and that I've neurolink with a a quantum computer so my my brain is pretty much a quantum computer yeah I think we probably both agree with you I think that you know Dave and I I let him speak for himself but I think that we both agree that there's something with Consciousness right that you could uh analogize to Quantum Mechanics right where the brain and Consciousness is a singularity and then we are living in this macro World which is this projection that we see perhaps put on top of I like the Matrix analogy myself but um the idea uh asht I put something in the nest about that about Quantum Jumping uh and biophotons you're talking about photons earlier on biophotons are something that the body uses um and and specifically the nerve system of the body uh I believe it's tied to the concept of the light body um that that our our spirit is connected to is actually our bof photonic um form yeah appreciate that um I'm just so I think we're going to kind of close this down because I want to respect Dave's time but I want to see if Dave has any last thoughts or anything he wants to share if you want to plug anything Dave and then I will also do the same at the end sure I appreciate it um no that's pretty that's that's pretty much it I want to thank you so much Ashton for for doing this and for hosting this and putting this together I want to thank everyone for uh for showing up I actually didn't expect as many people to show up as as have and so I really appreciate that and for anyone that's interested of course uh I think people most people know by now that uh you know we do we have a i i on the side I have a patreon uh in conjunction with my uh uh Consulting Contracting line of work and so for anyone that's interested you know I'll publish papers on there and whatnot and it uh for a small amount of money every month it keeps the trolls out so to speak so um other than that I mean basically I have the generation Ed Channel and if anyone again not necessarily here to advertise this but if anyone's interested in having more discussions or even again I do not just DOD uh Contracting but even private institutions private groups if you had to phase helix.com p h h l ix.com then you can uh you can see some of my patents some of my stuff and then you can you can get a hold of me there if you if you would like as well so but other than that I want to thank you so much uh brother for having me on and I want to thank everyone here uh truly from the bottom of my heart for for coming out and and listening I I didn't think it would get as much traction as it and so I really appreciate everybody here and uh let me just be clear in saying that I'm not claiming to have the answers I'm claiming to have a set of answers based on my research experiments and experience that hopefully I can I can discuss uh uh one day with respects to some of the things that I've been privy to so other than that I thank you so much everybody yeah and I just want to say the same thing thank you very much Dave Rossy uh you're one of my favorite people on the planet I think you're an extremely intelligent individual I still find it hard to believe that you are as young as you are it seems like you I would still say that maybe you figured out how to reverse aging and you've uh gone back in time or something like that um but yeah I'm G to thank everybody who followers and watching along I agree I didn't anticipate this many people uh as well as a lot of people who are watching the live stream so thank you guys for listening to the science here um I think the big takeaway would be the responsibility aspect of this right so let's just say for the sake of argument this technolog is true we have to have really serious conversations about how we utilize it without potentially destroying ourselves um these are geopolitical implications in terms of how we get this information out there to everybody um so that's what I would urge people especially in the UFO uh Community to kind of have those conversations push that conversation forward from the conspiracy people angle who are in here you know I think that that uh what we need to get done is we need to uh get Congress involved in conspiracy hearing around the technology like yes I know that the UFOs and the alien stuff is very interesting um but in order to get that to come out we have to say here's the technology that's being hidden from us here the companies that are hiding it locked Martin I'm looking at you and then when we get that to come out everything else will just like a a string of dominoes it's going to all fall right um so I also want to say that we have a pretty exciting announcement potentially coming up I'm not going to announce it just right now yet but Dave and I are potentially going to uh be together um on a potential podcast in the next week or so um and once that is official I will go ahead and announce it for everybody uh but until then uh stay excited and I hope everybody has a wonderful Friday evening here and you guys have a good one we will talk soon I'll see you guys in some other spaces uh other live streams Etc thanks you everybody appreciate everyone thank you everyone okay guys that was awesome I think that was an awesome space uh just as I mentioned Dave is one I think one of the smartest people that I've ever interacted with um it's incredible to me that you know just several weeks ago I didn't even know who he was and you know now we're we're doing spaces and I'm learning about you know Advanced science from people who are literally working on it and that this stuff is being kept hidden from us uh some in some cases right out in the open especially the part about this being an alaer drive it's like we've known about this concepts of uh Einstein Rosen bridges for decades you know so I think that a lot of this stuff is it's very complex at the same time it's all just out there and it's it's not as hard as I thought to really understand so um yeah we've got some great stuff coming up guys uh once I have more information to share I will it's one of those situations I want to make sure everything is been you know locked down before we get it out there just because you know the nature of toxicity and the trolls that are out there in general but I look forward to big things with Dave in the future and going over more of the scientific Concepts as well as of course the MH370 videos so thank you everybody hope you have a good night and we will talk again soon appreciate you everybody on the Stream