5'Til Midnight Podcast Live

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# 5'Til Midnight Podcast Live delay. All right, and we're live. So, we're on Illegitimate Scholar and 5 till midnight right now. If you're watching on Illegitimate Scholar, 5 till midnight is my second show. The link is down below. Um, this is a show we do Monday every uh every Monday at 8:00 PM. And tonight we have a very special guest, Ashton Forbes, um, who has some insane stuff about the UFOs, these weird orbs. And, um, also I had seen that you had said something about Bob Lazar, who people should know from Joe Rogan. Um, and you had just posted about that, so maybe we'll talk about that and a bunch of other stuff. I'm sure it'll be great. And I am looking for the one thing you should know about Five to Midnight is I'm incredibly bad at my job. But we're going to play the intro. What kind of [ __ ] is like, dude? He does this every The bad news is that civilization is crumbling around you. Wear a dog mask, cut your dick off, bomb Palestine. The good news is that you are not alone. There's butthole shaving videos. Feel bad for the minorities in LA for having to deal with the white people in LA. You have 5 till midnight live every Monday at 8:00 p.m. where you join five limbs Americans to laugh at the absurd nonsense of the end of history. right there. Sam, stop it. Well, at least you guys have the right attitude. Here we go. I was about to ask you if you regretted coming on. Um, yeah. Oh, no. I mean, you guys obviously know what I talk about. So, you know, when you start to get to the implications of what I talk about, you start to realize, hm, maybe we should just appreciate life and just enjoy what we've got here, you know, and not take anything too seriously because, boy, that's part of the reason why even though what I talk about, I think, is is so significant in the world. I don't take myself that seriously either. And why I like joke around in my stream and why we make memes and stuff like that because it's like, man, you just look at everything in the bigger picture, you're like, hm, maybe just the point of life is just living, you know? Maybe it isn't about trying to get everything figured out and become as efficient and techno whatever that we can be, you know. Fantastic. So, I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. Love that. So, true. We don't take ourselves seriously at all. This is the most serious we've been in like months. It really is like and and I'm normally on my other show very very serious, but that's why I have this to be not serious. Um, all right. Do you guys know who Bob Lazar is? Absolutely. You guys all watched like what the Joe Rogan thing with him? Probably that's where most people have seen him for sure. Absolutely. Guy that put the UF he put Area 51 on the map. Like people didn't even know what Area 51 was before he came out in the '9s. And one of the big claims, actually he's made several claims. He said he saw some flying saucers. never said he saw aliens, but he also said he was privy to seeing some kind of device that like like had some kind of like resistance to it or something that he thought was potentially like a gravity engine or something like that. And one of the claims he's made too is that uh he believes that there's this element 115 and it turned out that this element ended up being mazovium I think it's called ended up being a real element. So people say oh this this must be true. So the news that I had to break about Bob Lazar is that and I can't reveal you my sources so take it how you will but with I'm absolutely certain about what I'm going to say is that Bob Lazar does not believe in zero point energy as the solution to UFOs. That's what I feel confident saying. People say well what do you mean Ash? I mean like he's asked about 0 point energy and basically said like no that's nonsense doesn't have anything to do with the UFO stuff which is interesting because of the element 115 claim. The whole idea around element 115 is that you need this magical resource, this fuel that we don't have access to to make the UFO fly around like this, right? to make it do what it's doing because conventional physics is telling us to do all this stuff and to teleport away and do what do takes this huge amount of energy. But the true reality is there is no possible fuel that can fit inside of this UFO that can make it do what it needs to do if we're looking at the classical view of physics. And this is why I've presented this other alternative answer which is that the UFO is not getting energy from some fuel source inside of the craft. Whatever the UFO is, anything you want it to be, it's getting energy from all around everywhere from spaceime itself from everywhere all around us. And that's the view of zero point energy. That's the the secret in my opinion of the whole UFO phenomenon that answers all these questions about how these things are able to fly. And then the questions that we'll talk about here too about physics that like we don't current there's a lot of gaps in our understanding of physics and cosmology right now. And it turns out oh the answers to this UFO phenomenon potentially answer all those questions as well. Like what is gravity? Okay, I have a lot of questions. Well, I I have a question first. Have you considered that instead of an atmospheric type, it's just pulling the energy in that it's it's something like extraordinarily dense energy that comes out of an alien's butt like Nibbler in Futurama? I know you're joking, but the good point here is that I want to reiterate is that it doesn't matter what the fuel source is, even if it's a magical unicorn farts, right? There is literally nothing from a conventional view because E= MC² and when they're saying like oh to make a wormhole when they do the math uh from conventional physics perspective they say it would require the mass energy of Jupiter. So you need the mass equivalent to the size of Jupiter. So where's the size of Jupiter fitting inside of this crap? It doesn't matter how densely you put. There is nothing that can fit that much energy inside there. Doesn't matter if it's magical unicorn farts or element 115. And this is the big flaw where like when it comes to Bob Lazar, I have to give him credit. He put it Area 51 on the map. I probably wouldn't be talking about where I'm at right now without him. I even like mirrored like based on what how I thought they kind of discredited him. I kind of assumed they would try to do something like me if I started trying to, you know, support some of this science and stuff as well. So big credit there. But doesn't mean he's right about everything. just means he was exposed to some something crazy and he was coming to his own conclusions about what he thinks that meant. So the one of the big lessons I just want to throw out there for the people in the UFO community or whatever is like we need to stop putting people on a pedestal even me and other people like oh this person's the the person that we should all listen to and everything they say is real. When we do that that's why we don't get any answers. We should be looking at people like judging their claims based on the merits individually. You know in a perfect world is how we would do it. Yeah. healthy skepticism on everything and everybody, you know. C. Okay. Can you explain to me like I'm a turtle what zero point energy is like because he is a turtle. But I also wanted to ask that. I'll be right back. Well, it's super important to note too because it's not just sci-fi. Like everyone thinks that zero point is a sci-fi thing. Heck, I I probably would have a couple years ago as well. But you imagine like, you know, you guys are pro look old enough to understand Transformers. They would have energon cubes and transformers. Yes. Take your cube of spaceime and empty it all out of all energy. Take all the heat out of there. Take everything out there. Make it go down to absolute zero. So there's nothing inside that box. So we would say it's at zero degrees. There's there's no movement. There's nothing inside there. Turns out we're wrong. There is something still inside there. There's something below absolute zero. We call it 0 point energy. Now the question that exists in physics is how how much because it's below zero. So what does that even mean at that point? But we know it's there. This is the important part is that just because we don't think something is like it seems imaginary or odd or exotic to us doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And the experiments that prove zero point energy exists go back to late 40s. Casemir effect. All they did were they said they took two conductive plates, like two pieces of metal, two mirrors, whatever, and they put them really close together. They found if you put it really close together, weirdly, they just attract together. Now, if we were in an empty vacuum, it was really an empty vacuum. Why would the plates just come together all on their own like that? And then people realized, no, there must be little waves happening at this quantum level that we can't see. And when we put the plates together, what happens? Well, the waves that are too long, they can't fit between the plates. And if they can't fit between the plates, then there's there's more waves on the outside than the ones on the inside. And that creates a pressure, and that's what's causing the plates to come together. So, they realized space isn't really empty. There isn't even at absolute zero. And you can do that experiment in the vacuum and they've recreated it to show that it does that. There must be something there. Now the last thing I'll say is this because you're probably wondering what the this means then is that there's something called the vacuum catastrophe in physics and this is the big question about is the calculation for the energy in spaceime in all of spaceime and all the universe. Do we use what we see when we look out there and we measure all the heat in the universe? Is that the answer to how much energy is out there? Or do we use what quantum mechanics calculated? When quantum mechanics took a empty cube of spaceime and they said even in your empty cube at absolute zero temperature there's still 10^ the 100 whatever uh jewels per meter cubed whatever of energy basically an infinite amount of energy I think I had the math wrong that was the total amount of energy in the entire universe but the idea is even in a small energon cube there's enough energy to vaporize all the Earth's oceans. A huge huge huge amount of energy. Okay. Which one is right? Is it that we look out there and we look at all the heat in the universe, the cosmic microwave background, is that correct? Is that the amount of energy in spaceime? Or is quantum mechanics correct? And they add it all up and it's over a hundred orders of magnitude higher than that. And zero point energy, the enthusiast, the final boss. If you're a zero point energy enthusiast, your um you know profit is Hal Pudof. He's the he's the guy that started this in 1987 and has been writing papers about it since. You know, he would say that the quantum mechanics is correct and that there's a huge amount of energy out there. And if that's the case, then we can treat it like an ocean and like how we have submarines in the ocean. The way that they actually move through the water is they basically just displace the water. So we could do the same thing theoretically in empty space and just displace the space and and get propulsion with no with no rockets with no fuel, right? So there are ways around conventional physics. Anyway, go ahead. Sorry. I I feel like there's a sci-fi thing. It might actually be Futurama as well that has that type of movement in it from a long time ago. Dude, there is so The thing about this is like I went from being somebody that like just had no idea. Like first of all, it feels like everybody, even the UFO community was just so off on this, even though it's kind of just out there, but I went from somebody had no idea about this, and then realizing like it's just all it's out there in the in the media we consume. You'll sometimes see like in uh what was the the t movie? Uh the Invincibles or something like that. Uh the animated one. Yeah. um like that the enemy in that one like the second one or whatever has got zero point energy he uses or the X Files when uh the most in one of the remakes they did of the TV show I think uh they have like all of a sudden a triangle craft and like oh it runs off of zero point energy and he's like oh that's amazing that's how it's levitating he's like you haven't seen anything yet and then it just disappears and he's like did it cloak and he goes no it's like warp drive it's like wait what like you're thinking about it you're going like holy Holy [ __ ] Like this is actually like real that they're saying right here. Or even just everything in Star Trek. And how far back does Star Trek go? Like literally every technology in Star Trek real. It's not represented necessarily the way that it would work exactly in real life, but pretty close. So what you realize is like for me it's kind of like man this is going to be like a huge blemish to realize like all this stuff is real and we've been treating it as sci-fi. we've been rejecting it in academia is just like what a lot of academics think is they just think the answer to that vacuum catastrophe question. They think the answer is the cosmic microwave background is the answer and that the zero point energy is just insignificant. And when you start to learn about you're like wait how are we just ignoring this? Like clearly it's not insignificant. And if you're somebody who thinks that our aliens are visiting us like this is the the only answer. I started digging around for the physics to figure out like how could you like do some crazy uh wormhole stuff or warp drive stuff and the only I kept coming back to over and over again zero point energy like no matter which direction you go comes back to zero point energy like there's not some other secret answer out there like for example some people might be like well what about like fusion like what about fusion turns out fusion is also just a zero point energy tap think of it as like fusion is building your well or your pump that's going tap the oil, the the zero point energy out of the vacuum. Like, and I'm like, "Holy shit." You start realizing that like, man, how's everyone ignoring this? It's like in our media. It's just like all over, right? So, I heard uh I heard a theory. I mean, I literally know nothing about physics, but I've heard other like physics people talk about this that there's like a theory that possibly the federal government like somehow put a pause on physics and their reasoning was because they there's a lot of now we have a lot of foreign students that come to our universities and because of that uh they had to put like the CIA or whoever, I don't know who, but someone put a pause or stopped going deeper into physics Because if you know because now we have all these foreign students here. They have this national security threat that they could take that back to their other nations and expose this stuff to I don't know foreign governments. Have you ever heard anything like that before? Well, put it in the context of the Manhattan project. Like things were leaking in the Manhattan project with when we were developing the nuke. But I don't think anyone would believe nukes are real unless we had actually dropped the bombs. Um and I still believe that now. So surely they learned a lot but re the real answer to your question is what they learned was to hide the information underneath the private government or private private industry instead of the government that shields it from foyer requests. That means private citizens just have no access to it. Then they use black projects and basically just umbrella corporations like hey I'm going to make ABC123 company and Loheed Martin will be the one that gives them $100,000 and then that company's going to subcontract out through like let's say aerospace corporation who has a bunch of physicists and engineers and then they're just going to do some random project. Even those people don't necessarily know exactly what the project leads up to. Like what does that accumulate up into? And this is how they compartmentalize it to a level where even the individuals involved might build like imagine you build a gravity beam or something, but you don't know what it's being used for at all. Or you build you make this plasma stabilization technology. You're like, I don't know what are they using that for. Right? That's how they keep it secret. And it's so effective that they can just hide it in plain sight where even in a situation like with what I've been doing for the last year and a half, like I really feel like they're not even afraid. not even afraid. Even with how much I've exposed, built this like huge following of people and what have you, gone on some pretty big podcast stuff like that, they're like, "Nah, just a too unbelievable." And b like they've probably gotten away with so much [ __ ] that they've just never faced accountability, you know? And this is why like to me the big answer to kind of the UFO stuff is like breakaway civilization. Somebody, I don't care who it is, who they are, who they're affiliated with, has some type of technology. well beyond what the public accepts and understands and to hide it is actually just the default mode because no one's going to believe it. It's already it's already gone so far beyond where we're at now. It even speaks to a technological singularity where like we talk about with AI then it might get to a point where once you've you've figured out let's say you figure out gravity and now all of a sudden you instantly figure out unlock fusion because that's the secret to how the stars are doing fusion and after that you're like you unlock now infinite energy. Okay. Well, what can you do now with infinite energy and all those developments might happen rapidly, like really rapidly? And this is why I was going to come back to you guys the same question because this AI thing is or uh I think AI is a fun route. I want to know what normal people think is. We are not normal. Normal, dude. I I have another zero point energy question. We could get off it. Normal to me. Okay. Go ahead. Watch more of our shows. Um, we watch this question. Yeah, watch me just ask this question badly. So, we can't harness it because the government or whoever powers it be would be like, "No, we're not using that. We're using fossil fuels, electricity, all that [ __ ] because that's where the money is, I'm assuming." Right. Well, look, there's been no advancement in like propulsion or energy technologies. Yeah. Well, yeah. Much to your point though, I'm sorry to interrupt, but like go um as a mechanic, I always think about this kind of stuff like Yeah. I work for General Motors, right? And I remember about seven or eight years ago, I saw an autonomous Cadillac and this is one that they were just kind of testing out. There wasn't a single panel on that vehicle that did not have a ding, a dent, a scratch, or anything like that. And still to this day, like a lot of the Cadillacs, the higherend GM vehicles have super cruise. They still are not fully autonomous. Like there's a major highway right in front of my work and it it's still not like you still can't just go right out on the road and turn on super cruise and go. Like technology in vehicles moves very very slowly. Bernie Sanders actually made this point. um like a hundred years ago, we were actually getting like better gas mileage in some cars back in the day than we are today. And we're still you know we have we went from you know using refrigerant that was um a global warming potential rating of like 10,000 all the way down to uh you know global warming potential rating of like one. We took the new car smell out of cars. Yeah. Well, we took the new car smell out of cars to lower the overall emissions and we still can't figure out how to get 30 miles to the gallon in every single vehicle. Do you do you really believe that when you pick up a phone here that's more powerful than any computer that existed in like the '9s? Like this is more powerful than any any commercial but we believe that like for some reason the average miles per gallon in cars was going down at least until the like 2010s. I don't know if I didn't look at the stats after that. That's been a long time, but maybe it's gotten better with the Teslas, but yeah. So, it's like, do we really believe that? And so, how are they keeping it secret? So, we talked already about the suppression in terms of like how they compartmentalize it. Why don't people speak up more or why don't people produce stuff? Well, if you turn out, turns out if you watch stuff like the Lost Century by Steven Greer, there's a shitload of people that have figured this stuff out from Stanley Meer in his water powered car, which is simply he figured out negative energy, which is manipulating gravity. And if you can figure that out, the hydrogen and oxygen's atoms just like fall apart at a lower energy cost. And now you've just cheated all of physics. There's other people that have figured out stuff like magnetic motors and how to create free energy using that. is all just based on the idea that space is not empty. That's the physics that allows it to be possible. So it turns out a lot of people have and you can see what's happened to a lot of them. I'll just say doesn't seem like that a good fate for many of them. Um and then the other side of it is too is that even if you do become successful, even if you figure out a commercial, a way to commercialize this science, then the government can step in at any moment, use the invention secrecy act of 1951 and say that this is related to nuclear science and technology. And they probably won't say exactly that terminology, but they'll say that because they've got the laws set in place where they can just steal any invention they say is related to national security. And the Atomic Secrecy Act says if it's related to fusion or fusion or, you know, nuclear research, they can just hide it. And I think that just got so out of control, the combination of all these things where now we've reached a point where like they hit the tech singularity behind the scenes and they just got like everything. And now we're seeing like why the increase in UFO sightings? Because most of it's us. I mean, do I think aliens exist? Sure, probably. But I don't really care. But the reason why we're seeing this stuff more and the reason why we're seeing these lights in the sky is because we figured out the science to do all this stuff. Now, I think another like you mentioned the dude with the water powered car. Isn't the problem like people were like, "Oh, I I figured out we only need gasoline." And that guy winds up with like four bullet holes in his head and like he killed himself, you know? It's like, doesn't that happen? No one wants to do that probably story that you'll love is that so 1989 cold fusion fiasco. I I I dug into this and I'm just like holy [ __ ] How long they been just suppressing this stuff in the public in the open. These guys decide they're not going to go through the peerreview process. They're just going to come out straight in the open and announce they've got this technology. They think that fusion is happening using just a garage experiment where excess heat is coming out of this water. It's basically just boiling or getting really hot when they shouldn't. And they're like, "Where's this energy coming from?" So, they go public with it. All these people start reproducing it. Like 60 reproductions. The Department of Energy and the MIT come in and they go like, "We're going to set up this tribunal and anybody that has positive results, we're going to go there and we're going to come up with some reason for why the it's bullshit." Like I it was literally one of the examples was like on the weekend there's more voltage so there was like it was getting hotter because of this minor increase in voltage from the the grid on the weekends like [ __ ] like that and so it worked though it forced them to retract their results and this guy Eugene Malov he was working at MIT writing the infinity energy or editing the p the magazine it's like basically looking for alternative energy under like Tesla type stuff. He blew the whistle. He's like MIT fudged their numbers, like averaged it out or messed with the the numbers to make it look less significant, which you know, it's so easy to do with stats. They can just manipulate the X and Y axis, whatever. And turns out, so he had blown the whistle. He went really public. H and so a few years later after this happened, he winds up stomped to death in his own home. Stomped to death. Jesus Christ. And it's case goes cold several years, nothing. Like four years later, apparently his his neighbors admit to it. I don't know exactly what ended up tying it to them, if there was like a tip that came in, but like apparently was a dispute with the neighbors. Somehow the neighbors came over and like stomped him to death, you know, like sketchy stuff like this is what happens to these people. And it's and we've just ignore it because we just say, "Well, free energy is impossible. free energy impossible. But the reason why I started with zero point energy, and I'm glad we did, is because that's the loophole. The loophole to free energy is we're not pulling energy out of nowhere. We're pulling energy out of spaceime all around us. And quantum mechanics is right. It's not zero energy down there. It's a significant amount of energy. And if we can pull that energy out, that's that's free energy. You might say like, "Oh, we're using up the energy of the universe." But that's like universe is pretty damn big. We'll be fine. We'll be fine. It's an infinite universe, so there's an infinite amount of energy, right? We're not on that level. We're like little speck in the cosmic, right? So, yeah, that's like so much to just take in and I'm dumb. So, I'm like trying to like everything you're saying and being like, damn. Yeah, don't mind him. He's Italian. Um, true. So, one of the things that you said about the the way that the government uh responded to this that they can grab whatever technology they claim goes under uh the the uranium program. It really reminds me I I usually do anthropology stuff and there were some administrative changes made to a law um called NAGPRA. It was meant to protect Native American graves, but now it's meant that it through administrative expansion, they can now basically claim anything in the ground. The government can decide that uh it is a Native American like cultural object and they can just take it and and nobody else it can't be displayed legally, federally. Um do you have any thoughts on that? And if not, please just say no and move on. But it it it feels like there could be a potential there for them to hide things that would be in the ground or is this just not something? Well, let me ask you this. Like I think the bigger question is where's the line? Where is the line on when it's okay for them to hide something and when it's not okay for them to hide something, right? I think that's where it ultimately gets can they do it? Absolutely they have. They can. I think we've got precedent for it, laws related to it. No question. But at what point is it too much? This is the question I ask myself and it's really a question of national security. I suppose you could say that's always the excuse they use. That's the catchall is it's national security. Why are we doing evil [ __ ] National security. Why are we hiding technology from people? National security. Why are we hiding archa archaeological finds from people? National security. Whatever it is. So at what point is it just too much is what I would wonder. And I think if you're talking about you've broken through some energy barrier, you know, of like some new advanced energy source that is betterment of all humanity and civilization or I mean it's kind of clear like if you've developed something related to Star Trek, you know, like if you got to let us know about it like you've developed a warp drive, right? Like isn't that I I think that should be clear, but maybe we don't really have any laws related to it. So, you know, I don't know. But that's the part where I would ask you guys. And then also the followup would be this. If we have some advanced technology and we're using that technology, the rationale is we're using it to keep uh Americans safe. I think all of us are Americans. If we're not, it's fine. But um we don't allow non-Americans on the show. I'm fine. Yeah. I was going to say trying to say no, it's not. Besides the one gay Afghan guy, but he was born here, so he's good. That's a real thing by the way, Bas close friend show. Yeah. Yeah. But the point is though that what how much evil can we do and still be justified doing it, you know, to if we for example specifically, let's say we've cracked gravity and now we can create a warp drive. Well, now we have the ability to warp a nuke onto somebody. There is no defense anymore. That thing can like Star Trek onto someone. There's that's it. um you know it's a warp nuke. So at that point, what are we justified in doing in preventing anyone else from getting that same capability where there is no defense to something like that? Probably just anything, right? Go ahead. Yeah, probably MK altering some guy's neighbors to stomp him to death. Yeah. Yeah. Shooting down a president's helicopter. Uh, you know, or I mean, sorry, it probably just hit some clouds. I mean, Iranian. Yeah, dude. Those damn clouds are dense. Clouds are the worst enemy of the helicopter. Um, no, but that's that's what I would want you guys to think about and just ask the question, which is like, [ __ ] man. How much? Because like, you know, when we start talking about the plane stuff here, it's um the funny part is I, you know, I've I've dug through all this stuff. I found I'm saying that we've got this crazy science. I've pointed the finger at the US Navy and the disappearance of MH370. And I'm pretty sure that if it were to come out that like we really did this to this plane, I think most Americans, while we would be outraged, I think most would be like, "Yeah, we had to do this for like we can't let China have this technology." If they were going to get this technology, then nobody else can have this. like what we're about to see in this video is nobody is ready for for for this level of technology and it's it's scary when you first see it like jarring for a lot of people. Um, it does look like it's something straight out of a movie where you're like that's not real. But like I mean it's it's I mean and you're on the same page as me like this is I don't really believe in aliens either by the way. Like I always believe that it's just our technology just super advanced and like is that's we're about to see, right? Just like super advanced government tech just taking a plane out of the sky. That's [ __ ] crazy. Well, let me put it like this. Like the reason why you're clearly seeing a drone right here and you can already see the plane and the nose of the drone right there. This is an operation for sure, right? Why are they filming? The answer is this is an operation. I also when I first saw this video, I saw this video 10 years ago uh actually right after it came out in 2014 and I just memoryhold it. I didn't know what the hell I was looking at. I thought it was fake or I I wasn't sure. I had no idea it was related to MH370 or anything. Yeah. So, when this video got popular again in August of 2023 and I saw it again and I'm like I still was like, "Wait, I remember seeing that." And then I saw the other video that we'll watch here in a minute, too. I was like, "Wait, there's two videos." And then some people had already kind of figured out that's MH370. I was like, "Wait, that's the plane that disappeared like 10 years ago at the time, you know?" And like, look at that [ __ ] I don't know if people could look at that right there and be like, "Oh, that's obviously fake." Like I get it's hard to believe, but like I've never seen a fake thermal whatever portal thing is bananas. I mean insane. No. So let let it keep going here because this is the first version of the video that we um that we found on the internet like in terms of data back and it's got this like I don't know what what is that the autotracking or the stabilization on the orbs built into it. Yeah, dude. If somebody is faking this, why are they doing this? Like wouldn't this expose any minute detail? Like this is like if you're like Banksy or if like you're Chris Angel, you're like a magician and you're like wanting everybody to see every tiny detail. Be like, "Look, it's real as [ __ ] This is how I did it." Who? Look at signature of those orbs. And then they add these slow-mo versions of this, too. Like, dare you to try to find anything wrong with any frame. So, the people who try to debunk this, what do they say? Is it special effects? We'll go to that in a second, but I want to show you because you were talking about the zap, right? So, watch the zap very, very closely. First, watch the frame right beforehand here because this is a super slow-mo. It blurs right there. And then it opens up and it closes again. And then it's and in four frames, it's gone up, gone. Like, what's actually happening here? F the haters or whatever. What's actually happening is like spaceime is actually breaking out of equilibrium. The reason why it's cold is it's because it's a negative energy event. So remember that zero point energy. We're going below that zero point energy below zero negative energy and then spacetime just bounces back to zero because zero is just equilibrium. Like imagine a trampoline. The equilibrium of the trampoline is when it's flat. You bounce on it and it goes back up again. Like that's what we see there from the physics perspective. Now the haters, the debunkers, whatever. And look, like I get it, you know, it's it's impossible to believe, whatever. The there are a couple main demos. One thing I want to address is people Google it. I just realized that people Google this and the number one thing that comes up is this Newsweek article that funny enough, I debunked that Newsweek article like within an hour of it being posted back in August, August 9th of 2023 because it claimed that the satellite there's coordinates in the bottom left of this video here and it says N L22, but Newsweek was claiming it says NOL33. So, just do a control find NOL-33 and you'll find here or just control find on 33. You'll see it'll say they it says that it's NOL 33 right there. That's what it says. And then it says, well, if you point if you scroll down or somewhere else, it says that NOL 33 was not launched until after the video was already online. And it's funny because they corrected it once when this first was published. It said NOL7, which is not even a real wasn't even a real satellite launch. And they changed it to NL33. And that's still wrong. It's actually NOL2. And this is so huge. Not only is it not after the videos were published, that satellite was sent in outer space in 2006 and it was the first launch of the space-based infrared system. So, not only is this article just straight up wrong, but you got to wonder why was this published so quickly after the video started getting popular on Reddit. And the that's the only factual claim in that whole article. all the rest of it's like this random no-name expert that nobody's ever heard of before says that this would be easy to make or that this is blah blah blah. But it's like these people never did any analysis on these videos ever. All these people in this article. So, in fact, I looked into this art this author. I'm not even sure the author is a real person. I think what about Tom Tom Norton, the fact check reporter? Like I don't think he's even a real person. I Googled it, called him out. I think it's just an AI that's making these articles cuz this is just word for word ripped from a France 24 article that I had already known about before this dropped. And when this dropped and I saw word for word it was copied from the other one. Wow. We had already figured out that the satellite wasn't NOL33. So I'm looking at this and I'm like, dude, did an AI write this? And if so, it's so weird how it dropped like right after the videos got popular when nobody else was talking about uh the videos or anything like related. So that's what it feels like. They're like, "Oh, oh, damn. Release this new article. We got to debunk this so it doesn't get out there more." That's what it feels like. I had that feeling. And when you watch those videos and you're like, you're seeing the analysis that random people were doing, it was so detailed. You're like, [ __ ] if these are real, there's going to be a big scop coming to try to discredit them because like, [ __ ] this is this implicates like the government having some crazy [ __ ] Like this answers all the questions like at least the ones about the technology and why we're hiding it and stuff like that. It doesn't really answer like you know what kind of reptilian aliens there are or you know they're enslaving us or whatever but whatever. Well, somebody else can answer those questions. It's crap. Who released this video? Like yeah. So I couldn't believe that. I wouldn't have imagined I would actually be able to figure out who released the video, but I did. I figured out who released this video or let's say who leaked it. I actually think that the Chain of Events was an indirect leak, meaning that somebody had this when they shouldn't have had it and then somebody else got it and they got it got on the internet that way. And that guy who's responsible is Lieutenant Commander Edward Seint. I'll give you the abbreviated version was that after watching that video for about a hundred times, you start to like get into the mindset of the person who was like recording it or the camera operator who's moving it around and you realize quickly, especially from that satellite video that you were showing there, it's not really a satellite and you look into this guy's case, you're like, "Holy [ __ ] this guy for sure leaked this video." Uh, I had a good psychological profile after watching that. It was definitely a military person that leaked it. They must have had act like really high level access to have access to even just the surveillance capabilities. And now I can say as well is that he was probably on a spy plane that night monitoring that event go down somewhere very close by and that's how he saw it. And either he had an emotional reaction because you imagine like what's going to make you go against your code if you're in the special operation or whatever that's happening. He was in a special operation unit called the VPU2 Wizards, this super secret spy plane program. He triggered a national security alert at the highest levels, but the government wouldn't say what it was that he leaked, even though his lawyer said that the information in question was available on the internet. Said that straight up publicly in an open statement. He also said that the investigation into Edward Lynn began April 2nd, 2014, which is uh less than one month after the plane disappeared. and Edward Lynn was assigned the VPU2 Wizards, the super secret squadron, um, in February of 2014. So, date range nails exactly when the plane disappeared. There's even an article up out there randomly. This isn't necessarily anything unless you believe in, you know, weird alignment and synchronicities, uh, where one of them has a picture for no reason in in an article about his case of a P8 Poseidon searching for MH370. It's like, whoa. And you realize they had to be very careful to make sure that nobody ever connected this guy to MH370. Like very careful because of those videos being out there on the internet. So, um, he also got caught with flight manifests that include search and rescue code names. Once I found this guy, and I actually just used Wikipedia searches that are, uh, lists that had like all the people that have been charged with espionage and other stuff like that. Once I started reading the first articles about it, like when you come across the first article for a guy when you're searching for him is the strange case, Lieutenant Commander Overse Lynn, you're like, "Okay, um, hm, let's look into this." Right? turns out checks every [ __ ] box. Every box. Is this guy This is definitely the guy still alive or in prison. And here's the weird part. He Yeah, he is. He So, the government was terrified that he was going to do something called gray mail, which is that he could just say like, "Hey, I know this super secret information. I'm just going to blurt it out." They didn't want him to go to the media, so they kept him in pre-trial detainment even though they didn't really have any evidence that like why he was a threat to national security um because they couldn't show anybody. They were also des afraid the case was going to go to trial because if the case went to trial, they'd have to show the evidence. So they basically forced him into a plea deal or psychologically manipulated him into con convincing him that what he did was so wrong. So he ends up taking a plea deal and they dropped all the espionage charges which there was no actual evidence. Like there's no tapes of him, you know, I'm going to exchange money with China or anything like that. None of that existed. They had to admit there was no evidence of espionage. So he gets forced into a plea deal and all that's left is a couple charges of like disseminating classified information which if you look at other people that got that that charge that were guilty most of them just got like a few months maybe a year. Edward Lynn gets nine years after his plea deal in the what? And everybody's arguing that this case was super severe which it was. Because if you read the news articles about it, it says it triggered a national security alert at the highest levels. Well, what could poss what could he have possibly leaked? Especially because he maintained and still maintains that he's a patriot that he didn't do anything wrong. And so if you look at it, you're like, okay, how does this make any sense? Well, he leaked those videos or what happened was he had a tendency to show off to like the whole case against him is that he was telling people stuff. he was telling his old his Taiwanese counterparts what information about our weapons that he was telling prostitutes secrets which if that was the case prostitute has no credibility who cares if he's someone telling a pro you're not going to prison over telling a prostitute some about the secret laser weapons or something right so it has to be something physical hard the appeals the penal codes in the appeals actually indicate video evidence like it's consistent with video evidence let's say as well So, now here's the real kicker. I'll tell you guys the juicy stuff. Somebody, we've tracked him down. We found someone found a video of him, Edward Lynn, online a couple months ago and he's using a new name, Edward Sariah. Wait, what? And he's got some company, but people like, how are you sure it's him? He literally uses a picture from himself that the trial was using that the media was using about him in his Navy and talks about how he was in the Navy like and it's just him. You can just tell it looks just like him. You're like, "Holy shit." And around the same time, somebody got in touch with his lawyer, Larry Younger. And Larry Younger was the one saying that the case started April 2nd. and he's the one saying that um that the v that the uh evidence and questions available on the internet he's the one you know blah blah blah and nobody believed that he got in touch with the lawyer. So he released a recording of the voicemail that the lawyer sent him saying that when he was trying to get in touch with lawyer saying hey this is Larry Younger. He even said his rank and everything and said he says is his phone number uh in the unedited version of the of the recording. Okay. Why is that important? Because that same day that he released the recording, he says that they had another phone call that he sadly did not record, but Larry Younger calls this guy back and says they basically have a conversation about satellite video. And the video that you had on the screen previously was called satellite video airliner and UFOs. That's all. That's the full name. No MH370. Just satellite video airliner and UFOs. And so the guy was asking him questions and apparently Larry Younger says, "I know exactly what you're talking about. The feds brought satellite video into the case." I mean, how what are the odds, right? Nobody has any idea what this guy leaked. And now loose lips loose lips lawyer. Somebody from Twitter. Now I wish we had a recording of that cuz we had a recording of that. I mean it's pretty much proof. Yeah. Right now before you guys ask I of course I tried calling the lawyer. He wouldn't pick up any of my calls. Wouldn't answer my voicemails. Nothing. I'm like bro you got to confirm whether or not you said this cuz like holy [ __ ] dude. Did he leak this? Is that is that video what he leaked? So, all right. What do you have any insight on to why this plane this is just regular commercial airliner, right? Like Oh, yeah. So, from Malaysia as well. So, we see these videos on Reddit back in August of 2023 and I'm watching people do investigative research on this and it's crazy how much details people found. Like, you can tell right away like it's got to be real. Like there's never been a fake video that like people spent like a week digging into every detail and aspect of them. The movements of the plane are consistent with a real Boeing trip 7 wall on descent while turning and and you can see that happening in those videos. Both videos are in perfect sync from two different angles as well. And I want to get to the debunk stuff here too in a little bit as well. I'll just make a note. We'll come back to that. Um and one of the other big details is the the cursor on that satellite video. there's a cursor, a mouse cursor that comes onto the screen and you were like, "That's so weird." Cuz you can tell then that it's not somebody like this, right? Yeah. And this is how I found Just let that play and then um because we can speak over, you can rewind, whatever. You can see the satellite coordinates are going to move, but only when the screen moves. So, we see all these things that indicate this is somebody recording on recording a screen. This is not like camera. This is how I knew. Also, whoever leaked this, they've got to be a US military personnel, but they've also they got caught. Like, I was sure they got caught, you know? You know, this doesn't get on the internet and they've got like logs and everything for this, you know, like there's no way it's not going to trace back to whoever leaked this. Um, because probably what happened is they're using this software. The software is called, it's basically called Whammy, wide area motion imagery. The person that uploaded this regided on, they probably had no idea what the [ __ ] they were looking at. They just probably thought this was satellite. And this is why people are like, "Well, why doesn't it look like if I was looking through a satellite?" Because they're not. The way it works actually is that they can fuse multiple data sources together. You guys are just like, "Holy shit." Yeah. Just it's just wild to see. Like, I've seen it a thousand times. Like, dude, it's crazy. Yeah. Imagine what crazy to look at. But also imagine like the leaker like imagine they they see that for the first time cuz people ask like who leaked that and it's like well imagine you are on an operation and you see that [ __ ] in real time. You're like holy crap no one's going to believe what I like did that even just really just happen like that would be my first interaction. But you know, just some shitty Lance Corporal or Corpal that's just like manned these [ __ ] like Exactly. cameras and they're like and you're like, "Oh, look, a plane. Oh, that plane's doing weird stuff. Oh [ __ ] the plane's gone." Like I got to tell somebody, well, those orbs just zap that plane away. That's not in our human world anymore. Like and the orb disappear with the like everything just goes like there's there's no like they're still circling like you would think. back a little bit because just imagine like we used to I used to imagine a lot about like let it play one more time like after it disappears you could literally imagine yourself being the person recording this having the same emotions where you're like oh okay plane zapped you're like this is probably the fifth time 50th time they watched this and now they're recording you're like okay we're going to scroll to the right here just so you see like there ain't [ __ ] going on the plane's gone and then you can see the go to the top right of the screen and they just close the window they close the window they're recording And then it's just black, right? Why is it black? Because it's still recording. It's recording a window that was popped up that they were using to move around and then they closed the window. Window closed. Still recording. You're like, "Oh my god." And you look up the whammy footage. Uh the newest one, I think, is called Argus. It's like one of the newest versions of this Whammy footage. They take all these pictures all the time. Anyway, what it does, it creates this wide like you're viewing like a whole city, a huge field of view. I think it's about 100 kilometers wide or something like that. I don't know the exact numbers, but and then what you can do is you can just press somewhere in the screen and it pops up a window and now it's like zoomed in and you can just like track and move the window or move the perspective of the window around like that person was doing using like middle mouse button. like you would hold down the mouse button and then move the screen around and you can track people in real time and that's what the government has and what they use and it's so sophisticated now where they integrated with AI and they're like literally tracking every object that's moving. The story of Malaysian Airlines Flight 370 is full of mysteries on March 8th 2014 dude. God why you iron your shirt by the way is crazy. Like I can't stop watching you. Insane. What? What's the problem? Nothing. I I took my t-shirt off. I collar shirt conversation and it's rude to have a It's rude to iron your shirt on. That's not a rule. Ashton, please continue. This is incredible. You're fine. We can go as long as you want. I'm going to stay here. Adam has to leave. Not yet. I'm good. Yo. No. No. So, yeah. So, the whammy footage though is basically fusing. They can have like these pods on drones or presumably high altitude aircraft or a balloon or just anything frankly. a satellite even maybe and they the data will actually relay through remember NOL22 a relay satellite NOL22 has this millennia orbit basically means it's oblong like goes really high these are the best ones for relay satellites because they spend the most time with like the most angle towards the earth where they can just constantly have communication with the groundbased computer so they take all this data they beam it to a groundbased computer some like imagine the uh we have a big data warehouse I think in Utah the government does so they probably use one of those warehouses all the data goes there and then a software program takes all that data fuses it and now it's DVR Google Earth playback time somebody logs in you say either the mission or the location or some that would indicate you know the time and location of the assets and now boom now you got a virtual environment that you can play back in just like we saw there. And for me, the big thing about this is like this is 2025 and probably most of the people listening had no idea that exists unless they were already following me. How could someone in 2014 make something that recreates that capability with nobody back then had any clue whatsoever? Unless you were like in the black world, as they say, right? you know. So, it's like is there any other is there any other uh like have we seen these drones zap anything else ever? Like is there any other footage of that ever? Not really. Like foot I mean I don't know. Like you know people send me a lot of stuff like is this real? This not real? I don't know man. Like I'll say there's a lot of similarities a lot of videos three orbs flying around for sure of light or what have you. And that's when I kind of thought like oh maybe these aren't like flying saucers. Maybe this is like just plasma. Like somehow they figured out how plasma can just float around. And that would actually explain why we just see a ball of light because you're seeing just a ball of of plasma. It's just a ball of energy. So it explain too why stuff shows fuzzy when it's not. So there are a lot of historical cases that go all the way back to like Philadelphia experiment could be one. Uh planes and stuff that disappeared could theoretically be explained. But overall, did I miss did we say why MH370 was specifically was that out of all the planes you could have chose the motive when you look at the plane and the motive the thing that stuck out and if you even look up like what people were saying the conspiracy theorist people who honestly we've learned they're they've been more right than wrong recently but even 10 years ago people were the OGs let's say they were all saying why were there these 20 people from Free scale semiconductor. That's what it was, right? 20. And that's not Turns out they looked up what they were. They weren't like CXOs. They weren't like the people up at the top. And they weren't the people at the bottom either. They were like the middle manager people that know what's going on. And the company issued a statement saying they were very important people just in case people try to downplay these people's significance. It was very weird that 20 of them from the same company were all on the same flight and everybody was pointing but no one could really figure out like what why like what semiconductors like what is this doesn't really make a lot of sense. So everybody is trying to figure out the angle on why these people, but there is like even if you don't know the exact angle, well there eight of them are Chinese nationals and 12 are Malaysian nationals, but they're working for the American company Freecale Semiconductors. So right away I'm thinking espionage, right? I'm thinking they're Chinese. They're flying to China and they're working for this American company that's connected to US aerospace and defense. like no question like publicly available stuff like contracts that were signed a year prior. So free scales connected US aerospace and defense Chinese people on board the plane. Okay, maybe right. But you need to know a little bit more. I feel like you can't really appreciate why this is definitely the reason until you start to understand zero point energy and how do we interact with zero point energy. Three main ways. One, magnetic motors. Cheap magnetism. Basically, using the right resonance, you can create over unity devices. Two, plasma. Plasma actually turns out is basically like the natural way to interact with zero point energy because plasma is free flowing electrons. And you basically take an amorphous blob of ions and electrons and if you can control their flow then you can create anti-gravity and whatever other effects you want. The third way and so that also kind of explains the orbs. The third way is microchips. It turns out that casmir effect I was explaining earlier with the plates. The casmir effect is just an example. You're not meant to assume that oh we just put these plates together we get infinite energy. No, of course not. But plasma might be one answer to that to that problem of how do we get the plates kind of back apart to like keep doing this process? Well, maybe if we can just control the plasma, we can do that. But a microchip, it turns out the Casmir effect gets more and more powerful the closer the plates get. This also equivalent to scaling things down smaller and smaller and smaller and smaller. The smaller you build the Casemir effect, the better. And what are we doing with microchips? You're basically saying, "Okay, I want this spot. I want a little semiconductor and I want another one right next to it." So, you can create little kasmir effects. In fact, there's already some really smart guys, Garrett Modal out of the University of Colorado and Bernard Hayes from uh Loheed Martin that have a patent that expires next year where they were working on this case cavity idea which is basically just this uh semiconductor insulator semiconductor configuration that you would use in like a microchip and then just a cavity an empty space. Why? Because what I told you before what they're just using the conceptual idea of the trampoline like we pull a little bit energy out and then we move it over to this cavity and then it'll go back to normal repeat the process right so microchips are actually probably one of the best ways to interact with this quantum energy this zero point energy and if that's the case then maybe these people had a breakaway maybe they had a breakthrough they did have a patent that I found for optimizing the number of dyes on a wafer, which when I first read I'm like I what the what the [ __ ] does that mean? It actually basically means how to make your microchip super efficient cuz uh the wafer is like the chip itself and so the dyes on it are the little the pieces and actually the dies I think are the things they put the microchip uh components configurations onto. Okay. So yeah. So a secret. Go ahead. We essentially just banished a bunch of Chinese nationalists to the Phantom Zone for spying on us is like what we did. So full story long short version is I think that what happened was that this was actually an operation by China originally to steal these people. We knew about it and we set up a counter operation in the most dramatic way possible in the way where we were like we're going to set a fire to this plane. We're gonna know that the fire is not going to explode the plane, cause it to divert so that the people who are the Chinese operatives who are trying to steal this plane start to freak out and then the worst possible. We're going to show you what we can do about it. Yes. We're going to bring the we're going to zap this plane and then they don't they don't obviously assume that's a scenario where these videos aren't on the internet, right? Like these don't So China what would China think in that scenario? They're going to go holy [ __ ] Well, they're going to know United States did it because who else could pull it off on on Earth, right? But they're not going to know how we did. They're going to be like, "They got some magic. Like, we can we can't do shit." Their leaders, every time they get on an airplane, they're going to wonder if Skynet's going to take them out like anytime they want, right? And that's the fear that you would want to instill with an operation like this on all your adversaries leaders like forever. Now, you definitely don't want those videos to leak because then it's kind of egg on your face because you're like, now they can figure out how you did that. They can figure out how you created it. Not just like they know you did something magical, but now they know exactly what you did and now they're going to make their own versions of that. So, we we wanted them to see this essentially or like Yeah. Because if they knew there was an operation, they were going to do an operation like China was going to do an operation. They're going to be recording it too cuz they want every That's why you do the fire. People are wondering, so why would you do this fire? Because you need to move the plane away from China. The plane is over the South China Sea. That's when it makes its first turn back. And if you set the fire before they get far enough into the ocean, they're going to turn back around. And so they went back to Pinang, which is the closest airport that you would go to in an emergency scenario. So the US would be able to predict that that's the closest airport. They might have had the pilot in on it, too. Who knows? Who knows? After that, and this is where they probably covered up communications like the officials did, and this is why all like no information came out because they had to figure out what they were going to cover up, what the story was going to be, what have you. They almost certainly had communications with the plane. They knew it was a fire event. That's why they didn't send up jets. The biggest criticism of Malaysia is like, you are tracking this plane on military radar. It's rogue flying over flying over your your airspace. you can deduce which plane it is within seconds and you're just going to let it rogue fly over airspace. This could be like a 9/11 situation. They could be flying into the Petronis Towers which are like two of the biggest buildings in the world. And they go, "Well, we knew it was a civilian airliner and we knew it wasn't hostile. How do you know it's not hostile?" I Okay, let's imagine that you're Miss Cleo and you can divine that it's a a civilian airplane because your radar is great. Fine. How do you know it's not hostile, though? You'd have to have communications. You'd have to have communications to know they're not planning to fly that plane into somebody into a building or something, right? Yeah. So, they must have communications. I assume that the Navy came over on a secure channel and said, "Follow us to the rendevous point. We'll get you on the ground safely or into the ocean safely and then we'll fish you out of the ocean or something like that." And then they were either just lying to them or whatever. And then they break out the orbs and zap. And then the whole story of this plane like pull up that map you've got on the right over there if you don't mind for a second. The one you had. No, the one before. Yeah. Oh, the one before. Yeah, it's a little low, but I'll pull the one that kind of shows all the way going to the south. Yeah, if you can make that bigger. I don't know if that's possible. There you go. I can make it bigger, but basically look at this flight path though, right? So, this plane that's good. It goes like up to the northeast and then you say it says contact lost up there to the northeast and it turns back around, right? and and then it goes to Pinang. So, we've got this turn back right here, but then look at this other weird turn that it does. And look at that location of that turn it does to go south. So, we're saying, okay, it flies over here west and this is the Nicabar Islands where it's at over to the west. And then it just does this 90° turn south and just flies south for like, I don't know, five, five and a half hours. Turns out that whole turn south is all [ __ ] That just never happened. The only reason why we think that even happened are these pings, satellite pings they say. Of course, it's not full data. It's just partial data that's 10 rows on an Excel spreadsheet that the company inmat says existed. Uh, and they're related to US intelligence. And even their own people were saying the sketchiest [ __ ] Their CEO was saying that, yeah, the pings are legit, assuming nobody spoofed them. He's on the record saying that there's a another statement by their engineers saying that they thought they were had a someone was playing a hoax on them. So you look at this. Well, guess where the coordinates are in our satellite video. They're right where that 90 degree turn happens. What I'm looking at going on right where the 90 degree turn happens. right there within 15 minutes where the plane is like lost from military radar. And here's the other kicker. The night the plane disappeared, day the morning the plane disappeared, the news article said Subang air traffic control lost contact with the plane at 1840 UTC. No one really knew what that meant. Well, now when we looked at that map, the first time they lost the plane, contacted the plane, that was 1721 UTC. That's an hour and 20 minutes uh difference between the times. So when they the next day they weren't reporting 1720. They weren't reporting the time that the plane went dark. They were reporting the time that the plane lost contact. Well, guess what time the plane was in those coordinates in those videos. Wow. 1840 UTC. So, it's the time and location that they claim the plane just turned into the South Indian Ocean where, by the way, we've been searching in the South Indian Ocean for 11 years. Three official searches, most extensive searches in human history, searched above water, airplanes, boats, submarines, mapped all the ocean across the entire seventh arc related to those pings. Nothing. Not one piece of the plane was found. Yeah, that's super rare. like for every single plane heard. Yeah. Why are we so confident that the plane is in the South Indian Ocean when there's just the only thing that indicates there is these satellite pings? It's not like anybody else like saw the plane in the South Indian Ocean. Nobody ever found debris down there. It's an active shipping route. It's not like there was another satellite company. It's like, "Hey, we also got satellite pings and they also seem to say the plane went there." Nothing. So, do you have any insight also to where this plane goes after the warp? like the portal, whatever you want to call it. Like where does it do? We have do you talk to anybody who's like, "Oh, actually this gets transported to this facility or it just goes into the [ __ ] nothing." Like what happens? Well, everybody thought this was to Pluto. Yeah. Like I mean, honestly, you start to wonder like, okay, well, what are the possibilities, right? If you have if you can zap something, is it being annihilated? I thought in the early days that plane just got annihilated. I thought it was some kind of antimatter thing. And it still could be. Still could be actually. I mean, when you start to get to a level of physics where you can engineer spaceime and like do what I'm saying with like pulling energy out of the vacuum, this is mathematically the equivalent of negative energy. So if all of a sudden before I needed the mass energy of Jupiter to create a warp drive with negative energy being possible theoretically I can make the answer to how much energy I need zero because however much energy I needed before let's say the mass of Jupiter I can make an equivalent amount of negative energy and balance it out and now all the math equations say my total amount of energy requires nothing. So, you could pretty much do anything. But all the conspiracy theories, if you research those, because I researched anything, I mean, you got to keep your mind open when you think that those videos could be real. They all say the plane ended up at Diego Garcia. And it turns out that's where I think the plane ended up going. Now, first thing you need to rule out is, is it going to Andromeda Galaxy or Bizarro Dimension or somewhere else? The way you can rule that out is because the phones were still ringing. The phones were still ringing, which would indicate it's not at the bottom of the ocean. Certainly not in another bizarro dimension, but also the plane was seen in the Maldes by about 15 islanders. And several people interviewed those islanders. Uh, one of them you can find recordings of as well. These are people that they're not they're not making up a story about seeing a jumbo jet. Not exactly a normal occurrence for them and uh they saw it flying towards Diego Garcia. To me, that's the most powerful evidence that it went there. But how did it get to the Maldes? Well, actually science, this is where I feel like I'm Bill Nye the Science Guy before these people sold out, of course. Oh, or um yeah, before he sold out where it's like actually science is the answer to where the plane's going. We can tell from science that the plane is going backwards. It's crazy. But it turns out there's something called the right- hand rule in electrical engineering. You take your right hand is that the simplest explanation is that the electric and magnetic fields are perpendicular to each other. Right? And so is the electric force field. So these are perpendicular and then this side here is also perpendicular to both of them. So that creates three different perpendicular axises and that's the right hand rule in electrical engineering. So that means if you know the direction of your electrical uh current and your magnetic field, you can tell the direction of electrical force and if you apply this to the orbs spinning around the plane, assuming that they're just like basically magnets or electromagnets, then this plane because what happens when the orbs is they go vertically around the plane. At first they're just kind of like in this triangle formation spinning like all directions and then they go perfectly vertical like this. And the reason why they're doing that is the right hand rule because they're spinning vertically around the plane and then they're going to pull the plane backwards. So what this would mean to me is that there's a fourth orb somewhere else and it's these it's basically pulling these orbs and the plane back to it wherever it is. Since the satellite video, we can tell the plane's going to the east when it after its turn. If it's going backwards, it means the plane's going to the west. So, from science and math, assuming this all real and all this math and science is real, which I think that it is, this plane's going backwards right there when it gets zapped and pulled backwards and it's going back to the west somewhere near the Maldes. There's a time gap, which we can't really account for, of a few hours, and then it gets seen by these islanders flying down to Diego Garcia. So, there was a piece of whatever technology this is over in the Maldes that it was like the home portal point. I'm bad at this, but you know what I'm trying to say. Like, we're speculating. We don't know. Yeah, we don't know. But that's like the theory because when you so if you start to research uh like quantum teleportation, turns out it's actually real. We've actually quantum teleportation. There's like prizes and stuff for how far they've been able to teleport stuff, quantum uh teleport energy. And if you research this, you realize it comes back to this idea of quantum entanglement, which is that two things can be tied together in a way where if one is like up, the other way might be up or down, but we can infer the answer based on a measurement on one side regardless of how far apart they are. Regardless of how far apart they are. This is the idea of teleportation because how else is that possible? information. Something must be traveling faster than the speed of light for that to exist. Distance must be an illusion for that to exist. So that's the phenomenon I assume must be happening to teleport this airplane. And the reason why I'm convinced it's teleportation, not annihilation, is at least under a conventional understanding of physics, that would that mass energy of that plane would blow up like a significant portion of the planet, which it didn't do in that video. So that means that energy must go somewhere else. And the other reason is because that was a negative energy event. That's a cold event. It's all black in the thermal video that we just watched. It's not white hot. If it was white hot, I would assume that some energy was released in that position. But it's all black and then the plane's just not there anymore. Which to me indicates that the energy was being absorbed out of that location. So almost like when it's getting pulled out of that region, it's going to show up somewhere else, wherever else the fourth orb is. And watch the pl orbs. Notice they converge right there. I think that's the triggering mechanism that causes it to happen is that what's happening is there is that they are increasing the electromagnetic energy flux however you want to think of it in that region of spaceime around the plane and as they converge they hit a point where they basically break through the ceiling and then at that point that's when the plane disappears. So are you dead? Like do we like are they alive somewhere? Like what like does this kill you if you like what is the pro like do you know anything about that or just again all speculation? Yeah. Yeah. No. So the other thing I I researched is that there were papers that were only publicly available after 2020 that explained that wormholes are humanly traversible. I was like what? I had no idea that wormholes I thought it was just sci-fi stuff. And I'm finally the scientific papers, three different scientific papers between 2020 and 2022 that all indicate that no, you can survive a wormhole because it's not going to spaghettify you somehow. It doesn't spaghettify you. It just creates like a basically like a shortcut through space and time. So, it's not like what we would imagine a black hole, although very very similar to a black hole. In fact, to the point where you start to wonder what the difference really is. Um, but I do think all the people were dead, unfortunately. And this is not me like, you know, trying to avoid the controversy or anything because I know people I don't want to give people false hope for sure. Uh, and if I thought they were alive, I would say so, but I actually think the fire is what would have taken them all out. The smoke from the lithiumion battery fire, like why were these batteries on the plane? If it was an espionage event, the batteries would have been on fire for an hour or a little bit over an hour, that's a lot of smoke and to be building up. And even if the smoke is in the cargo bay, which it was, it's going to slowly accumulate in the air conditioning and start circulating throughout the plane. And that almost is probably worse because I imagine it's the situation like carbon monoxide poisoning where you don't even realize it's happening until it's too late. Yeah. Where all you're like, why is it hazy in here? And then you're like boom. And then there's just you don't ever wake up, which honestly it's almost darker than being taken out by the zap. So you pick your poison, but that's kind of what I figured happened. And the captain and the co-pilot, they have special hoods. So their hoods actually would protect them from fire, assuming they get them on fast enough. Uh, but one inhalation from this smoke and it's game over. So that's the thing about lithium-ion battery smoke. I didn't realize even how dangerous that was. There's so many revelations when you investigate this stuff where you find out like, "Holy [ __ ] lithium-ion batteries are super dangerous." And don't if you see a lithium-ion battery fire, do not go near it. Do not go near it. Yeah, that that blows I seen the Chinese factory videos and it was blowing up and taking out like 40 people. Dude, the people in the people in Korea for like a couple months ago, they were fighting this fire and then I read about like, "Well, what's the background on this fire?" and they're like, "Oh, 22 people died." I'm like, "Wait, how?" I'm like, "I'm watching this video and it's it's happening like right in front of them." It's because they underestimated the smoke. Then it says in the article like one or two inhalations and the people just passed out and then the fire slowly overwhelmed the the place. You're just like, "Damn, we got to respect the lithium-ion battery fires." And then the pager incident happened. You guys remember that with Hamas and the Yeah, bro. After that happened, I was like, "Shit, they can definitely remote control detonate some batteries delivered to the knee." What do you think about that? So, do you think that these were pre-manufactured differently than normal pagers or was it just the pagers with the lithium-ion battery that could be remote detonated somehow? Yeah, the batteries um on MH370 were put together that day. So, we in we looked at the ATSB report. It's like somewhere around page 252, 254, I think. I think that's the right pages. They have pictures that the batteries are put together that day. It's like they just package them together and like put them in these cardboard boxes. I don't know what the safety standards are for lithiumion batteries, but right does not look like it met the safety standards. Um, and there were a bunch of other planes that burnt up for very similar reasons. So definitely like it makes you wonder why the fire scenario was rejected and ignored and didn't really get the light of day. And also people should wonder why the Malaysian airline CEO lied and said there was nothing dangerous on the plane until was the date March 20th. So two weeks after the plane disappears people one of the first questions people is there anything dangerous on the plane? Right? Because the plane's gone. Then they finally reveal that there's 500 pounds of super dangerous lithium-ion batteries in the cargo bay. Jesus Christ. Two pallets, we only found out later, two pallets were in the forward cargo bay right next to the electronics bay. So if they were stacked up against the wall next to the electronics bay and they ignited, all you're going to los are going to go disabled. Power is going to go out, everything. I'm just going like, how how did this get ignored? I started googling it. I found multiple articles by experts. Now, I don't give a lot of weight to the term expert. The reason why I say that is for all the normie people out there that do give way to the experts, not for me. None of our audience, don't worry. But multiple people, Billy Vincent, former security director of the FAA, he even before the lithium-ion batteries were revealed, he was saying that he thought it was a fire probably that happened to M37. There was a wired article from a pilot. It was like this was probably a fire. Electrical fire makes the most sense for like why they turned around. And then there was another guy uh Dr. Edel who was also like a lithium ion battery expert said that yeah it was probably a fire that happened on the plane. And so I find these articles I'm like damn this is so weird because now when people talk about the plane, no one ever brings that up. And I was like I thought that was my way to like break through to the like OG investigators that were never going to believe like you know orbs or whatever. And I'm like, "Hey guys, look, like I found out it was definitely a fire." Like this the videos, you can see smoke coming out of the plane in these videos. And I said, "All these witnesses indicate a fire event, including two more pieces of evidence I want to throw at you guys real quick that I forgot to mention." At that same time and location in the Nicabar Islands, there was a woman on a boat, Katherine T. And she has a wellrecorded sighting that she reported uh after she arrived in port in Thailand. of seeing a plane flying low that she assumed had to be MH370 given the context of getting on port and there was this missing plane. She had this crazy sighting of seeing this lowf flying glowing orange plane with black smoke coming out of the back of it with no navigation lights aka no power. M she's in the right spot within a 100 miles of the coordinates and within 100 miles of the last location of MH370 on military radar like at a triangle between the two points. You're like, "Holy shit." And I I reached out to her like when this investigation happened. The crazy [ __ ] she told me, she said. So, first I had like normal conversation and I was just taking notes like a journalist and stuff like that and I'm like uh I showed her the videos and I was like does this that that the drone video and I'm like does this look like what you saw? And she's like well it wasn't green and I'm like oh she doesn't even realize it's a thermal video. She didn't know. And I was like no it's a that's just a thermal. And she's like oh yeah it looked exactly like that. I'm like, "Holy shit." Wow. And then I asked her what time she saw the plane and she says 1840 UTC. No. And I'm like, whoa. Wow. That's crazy, man. And here's the other kicker. She goes, "I felt like the other experts pressured me to change the time of her sighting because she was clearly in the She didn't want to get shot in the head." I was afraid. She was actually when I first reached out to her, I was afraid for her safety cuz she's probably the last person that saw MH370. That's how she has the one part that I can't get over is how she claims when I and I when I spoke to her, she said this again that she like went inside after she sees this crazy [ __ ] to put the kettle on to make some tea cuz she was on night watch or something like that, you know, and she comes back out and the plane's not there anymore. And people would say, "Well, why would you go back inside if you see this crazy thing?" But we don't know exactly how far it was, but she could just tell that it was flying low because it's, you know, it's not up in the sky where you can't see the planes and stuff like that. So, yeah, her sighting was incredible. But there's even more. One other thing is that only reported in the China Times the next day, this when the plane disappeared was a report that there was an intercepted communication between the US Navy and Malaysian Airlines flight 370 of the captain saying that the plane was disintegrating and attempting an emergency landing or ditching supposedly. that corroborates exactly what we're seeing in the videos and what Katherine T saw and that location of the plane when that would have been going down and the whole scenario of the fire event and nobody else reported on that. It just got totally ignored. You can find the reports on it, but it got kind of talked about on some of these. I I also investigated like all the blogs where people were talking about MH370 back in 2014, like the pilot blogs, hundreds of pages of forum posts, and so people brought up some of this stuff. They brought up Katherine T's sighting. She actually met with some of the people that were like reputable investigators. Um, so crazy stuff. And this is why lastly what I'll say here on this unless you guys you know ask more questions is it really just took somebody jumping in with a you know fresh set of eyes taking all the evidence on to totality instead of just basing your assumptions based on what you've been led to believe by people you trust or the media and you realize like clearly this was a fire event and then you realize well if it was a fire a where's the plane and why is there a cover up or whatever weird [ __ ] is going on related to this plane? Well, the answer to those is the videos, right? The videos is the answer for why we never found the plane. And the videos is the reason for why there's a weird cover up because you can't reveal those videos or what really happened. So, even if it was something mundane like a fire, now you've got to have an elaborate cover up. You've got to use your IMRAT satellite pings to either spoof some fake pings or I don't know what they did exactly to convince people, but you know, send people on a wild goose chase and go, "Oh, no. I did a 90 degree turn and then just flew uh five and a half hours in the middle of nowhere. And yeah, even if you don't find it, don't think that's suspicious at all. That's just normal, right? Yeah. Nuts. Um I have to go cuz we're on the gym is I'm recording in the gym. I need I need to say something. Thank you. Well, I'm going to say bye Ashton. Thank you so much for everything. Um hey everybody in the comments, uh throw me a follow on Twitter if you if you don't mind and subscribe to this podcast. Ashton, you're the man. That was so I'm going to watch this back when I get home just because like I learning everything you told me was I had to retain it like a thousand times. But uh All right, man. Thank you guys. Love everybody else. Peace out. See you guys. One of the one of the coolest parts about that to me um is that where this was spotted Katherine T, it was on the Nicobar Islands which are part of a greater chain, the Andine, which is where North Sentinel Island is. So, the North Sentinel, who are somewhat famous, but they're a not uncontacted. They're called uncontacted, but that's like not a real thing. Um, stone age most isolated people on the earth. They might have seen this. Let me look at that. People I think someone actually asked me about this. Now that I look at that, it's a little actually Yeah, surprisingly close, actually. Yep. Surprisingly close. Oh, I don't this right here. But yeah, it would have been within like about 100 miles of that location. So, how weird is it too that it's like if you were going to pick a location where like you would say just statistically like the least number of people like witnesses like that's probably pick a place where the people like are primitives that don't have any outside contact. Like there you go. That's like a pretty to them. This is as crazy as like a helicopter which they've seen and thrown spears at. So yeah, I think just recently somebody else just actually got arrested for going there and I don't know if it was a fake story or what, but No, it was real. He got arrested by the Indian police because it's an offlimits area. Um he got a coconut and a diet coke. He sure did. Um the only person to ever peacefully make contact with them was a Indian archae or anthropologist who for like 11 to like 15 years he brought them coconuts um every few months until they finally didn't hurt him. Um but that was 35 years ago. Anyone else? You guys must have questions. I'm sorry I'm talking anthropology too. So, the Oh, yeah. So, let me address some of the other points, right? The debris and then I forgot to address some of the other debunks, too. But, um, the debris that was found, here's the the crazy sigh up on the debris. Where was the debris found? Like, because the official search didn't find anything, nothing at all. So, people started finding this debris about a year after, a little bit over a year after the plane disappeared. And contrary to conventional thought, we were searching off the coast of Australia. We found debris in Africa. People find debris in Africa. And a lot of people don't realize like where they found debris, but it is like, you know, pretty far west, like South Africa, like really far south in on Africa. And the problem is the ocean currents actually flow to the east down by most of where they're searching along that seventh arc. They don't even flow to the west down there. Uh so the crazy part too is they also had drift analysis that was already done that would like show where the the debris would go from that seventh arc and even after two years the drift analysis showed that the debris would not make it to Africa. These are just if you just Google this right now you can find these these images that are just out there. And so the problem is that there only one of true thing two things can be true just from a pure physics perspective because just too Africa is just too far away. Either that debris is from MH370 and the satellite pings are not accurate. The plane did not crash in the South Indian Ocean or those satellite pings are accurate and that debris is not from MH370 like or it got planted there. So, actually, I think most people would say that there there's something wrong with the debris here. I'll give you a good image. Um, if I pull one up, will it let me share? Yeah, you just have to click down below the um the present and then you can select a tab. I got you. Because I got the best image right here. Oh, yeah. I'm sure you do. There we go. Um, share. and I just pull it on the screen. Okay, there we go. Let me zoom it out a little bit. Okay, so this one shows all the debris parts here at the top. So there's how many do they claim here? 20 22 27. And uh the number of confirmed ones is like three. The green ones here. Uh this this image here actually comes from a CNN article. This one this piece in the middle is not this big where my mouse cursor is here in the middle. It's not it's not that big. So even if you add up all these debris, even assume every single piece is from the plane, it's not even enough to prove the plane crashed. It's just a few tiny parts. In fact, the biggest piece is this right flap number one you see up here. This is actually 7 feet long, but you can still see it's only a tiny tiny piece of the right wing because the wing's 100 ft long. So, this is actually reality versus what we've been meant to think is that somehow this debris means the plane crashed when it actually doesn't. And look at where they found it. Look down here at this bottom part. This is crazy to me because just I'm a math and stats guy and a business guy in college. I can just tell you straight up without even doing the math yet, the stats on this would be that 95% of the debris, if this crash location was correct, this search area, 95% of the debris should have washed ashore in Western Australia over here, uh, Western Australia, and then some of it maybe would have kept going and then come back around to Africa after like a couple years maybe. But instead, all the debris was all found in Africa, including these parts here in deep in Africa on the west. There's no way these can make it there from a current. It's already a stretch to assume these close ones, that these are even possible. It's already a stretch. The ones that are like number 19 over here, or the one number four, which I believe is the Rolls-Royce engine cowling. Yeah, there it is. Engine nose cowing. It's got a big RR on it. Number four here. There's no way this can drift from this location down here against the ocean currents to get to South Africa. But there is a much better location. Diego Garcia is roughly right in the middle of these ocean currents here in the middle of the Indian Ocean. And that location would actually make sense for all of where this debris was found. It would make sense on why none was found in Australia. Um, let me show you the other model real quick, too, because I want to show you the one that they released before they found anything. Uh, this one is it, too. But this is the same one. It's just by somebody else. Let me share this one real quick. So, believe what you will, but the debris that was found certainly does not debunk the videos. And I would argue my theory is the only one that makes sense. I mean, look at this. This is the drift analysis from before they found anything. And they go, "Oh, no. Reunion Island totally makes sense." And I go, "Wait, no, it doesn't. This is the closest one, the Reunion Islands. Look at what it says. 18 to 24 months." The problem is they found this in like 16 months. 16 months, according to this graph, wouldn't even be close to the Reunion Islands. And it's funny because I've seen some of the debunkers and what they claim and I guess they found some quote by one of the guys that wrote the paper and they say that he just says that no it it the f the debris is consistent with our analysis. No, it's not. I'm I'm literally looking at it. I can read a graph. I don't care what the guy said. I can I just want to know the numbers and the facts. Here's an image, right? Like it doesn't lie. There it is. So, that's one of the debunks. Do you guys have any questions on that one or about the debris in general? No. No. It's incredible. I You're really good at talking about this stuff. Uh this is mesmerizing. Absolutely incredible stuff. And thank you to Mark Scott for donating $50 to you. Very generous. Thank you. Mark Scott's one of my my uh longtime followers. I found out too that some of my production people, we've been looking for a video editor and um they said that like there's people are like really passionate about this stuff. Like a lot of people there are people out there that like worked in aerospace, people out there that know the stuff's real and they're just happy that like there's somebody out there that's actually pushing it, which it keeps me going because I'm like, man, okay, there really is something to this, you know, like it's not me just having a fever dream or something, which you always do have to second guess yourself. People think that I don't second guess myself on all this. I did for a long time and still do. I always, you know. Um, yeah. And then, uh, well, the two other debunks. Whoa. What's this one? Would you consider doing an interview on the palace? Okay. I don't know who that is. Um, sorry. I didn't mean to throw you off. Oh, yeah. No, I would love to do that though. I'd love to get in touch with that person. Can somebody get me in touch with them? I don't know how to get in touch with people from YouTube. Way on Riders. If one of my admins or somebody's watching, um, get on my Discord. I've had several people try to get in touch with me. The only way is to get in touch with me is go on my Discord. Get on my Discord and get in touch with one of my admins. JK Philly Fan is the best. And then we'll get in touch. But yeah, if you donate $100, then I guess I'll try to get in touch with you. Yeah. Um, so let me just address real quick some of the other debunks that are out there. So, one of them, and I'll share a file here, is this VFX. Everybody says, "Oh, well, it's VFX. Somebody found this VFX." They say it's a perfect match. And the problem is it's just not. Is that like this is kind of a slight of hand situation where people just took something that was similar and they claimed that it was an exact match when it really wasn't. And they actually did this several times. was that at first debunkers claimed that well it was a the zap is a supernova and I was always really suspicious that they focused on the zap when the plane disappears instead of like trying to explain like forensically the videos in general or trying to find say like oh like somebody made an editing mistake here that's very obvious you know and you can just show it or what have you instead they were focused on the zap and they claimed after they claimed that it was a supernova they and claimed it was an ink blot and they said that somebody manipulated this ink blot to make it look like the zap. And then neither of those were really sticking. People were like, "No, dude. This video is too real." And so then a one day old Reddit account comes out of nowhere and says, "I found this VFX from an old video game and on one frame, this frame that you're looking at right here, they say that it's too it's close, right? It's it's a it's a perfect match. But even when you look at it right now, you can already tell that even on the edge doesn't match. And then in the middle here, what's the middle is not even close to the same. Like I'll show I can show the original again just for comparison. But the middle here has these lines coming out of it and it's not even the same shape as the the the black in the background. So, if you watch any of the debunkers, the corridor crew, even the lower lodge, when they claim that they, this is what they're talking about when they claim the asset matches this one frame that has a similar boundary edge, of course, after resizing the asset. And what they don't do is they don't show you the middle part. either they they draw your attention away from the middle or in the case of the Lur Lodge, what I saw them do at least one time was they shadowed this like blue zap that you this explosion the the stock effect you see here. They turned it black and then they superimposed it over the background and then they claimed that that was what the original that the actual zap and the and the asset looked like. So what they were trying to do is they were trying to make you think that they were confusing you and think by overlaying them and shadowing them together that somehow this this showed you couldn't see the differences anymore basically is what I'm getting at. So um now all I have to do to break this down is let the whole asset play. And the main reason like that in my life. Well, so yeah. So we can see here this explosion is not the real deal. So the back, remember we saw the back earlier. It was a wormhole. It kind of opens up and then closes here. So this is superimposed. This there's no way to change this to get this to match the background here. And then now here this is a frame where there is no frame. We have we don't have a frame. Um, so actually the full asset has like seven frames in it and the zap only has four. So this was the superimposed stock effect. And when I point out that they don't match at all, then people just say, "Oh, well they just they edited it." And even when you point that out on this first frame, the one that is, you know, similar when you line it up, people say, "Oh, they just edited it." And I say, "Okay, well, how did they edit it?" and they say, "Well, we we can't know how they edit it. Only they can know how they edit it." You're like, "So, you can't tell me how they edit it, but you're sure that that's what they did." And um so if I take I just want to show you for comparison purposes the original without the effect added in. So, if you switch over to that one, you can take a look. Oh, yep. And so, this is the original without the overlaid asset. Same exact thing, just without the overlaid asset just to see the comparison. Okay. So, it's kind of up to you to decide if you think that that is assets in there. But if you do any kind of forensic analysis or type of, you know, like I say, how many pixels match any type of comparison, you'll find that there's it doesn't match even on the one frame and the other frames weren't even similar at all. So, this one I thought was a lazy kind of debunk thing where like, you know, you see um a lot of uh prosaic explanations for things. They'll be like, "Oh, that's just a series of balloons or something like that, right? Sometimes they're convincing, sometimes they're not, but it's really a lazy lazy attempt." Um the more convincing one debunk, and this is the last one I'll do, was the uh cloud pictures. People are like, "Oh, these cloud pictures came out. This photographer came out." And the whole saga was sketch as hell. Kim.com was supporting me. And I don't know why. And now I think that he was basically just planted to support me to try to like, you know, draw attention and then chop you uh chop you out underneath you. One day I woke up and everybody was a buzz that some and again a random six-day old Reddit account had gone online and been searching stock images and did some kind of Rainman thing and somehow realized that these images uh have clouds in them that match the satellite video. And weirdly, the first thing that the Redditors did, cuz somehow the Redditor debunkers were the first people to figure this out, is they emailed the photographer of the pictures. I don't know why. And they said that you need to get involved in this. And then the photographer immediately got involved and immediately started making a debunk video. Like the whole thing makes no sense. If you're getting why is he getting involved? This is me just waking up and this is all going down right away. And long story short, there's no actual evidence that the pictures in question that were supposedly used to make the satellite video, there's no evidence they predate the video at all. They only exist online in 2016. If you look on the torance of the website where they're supposedly found, they don't exist in the torrance at all. The whole story of the photographer, yes, he was on some airplane to Japan in 2012. He took pictures on an airplane in Japan in 2012. He just didn't take the pictures that match the clouds in the MH370 satellite video. There's no evidence that he did. And the crazy part is for anyone going, you can't even make the argument that they didn't that the way back machine didn't index the photos. The wayback machine did index the photos of the photographer. There's proof that there exist in 2013. They just no proof that the five photos in question that have the clouds in them existed then. Mysteriously, the only proof that those images existed dates to 2016, over 2 years after the videos had already been on the internet. So, the only story that makes sense is that those pictures got put onto the internet. They got planted in a set of existing photos for the sole purpose of if these videos ever get popular, someone uses them to debunk the videos so that people stop paying attention to them. And just to add a little bit more weight, cuz I don't want it to be like I'm just making up this story to rationalize it. We already knew it's not possible for there to be pictures in the videos. Like it was already a non-starter. So the only reason why I even make this explanation is because I already know there can't be 2D pictures in the videos. Why? Because there's two videos from two completely different angles. This is going to require a 3D rendered environment. Not you're not making this two two-dimensional videos. In order to get them to sync up, you got to have a 3D diarama and then you set up the camera angles and you build it all out, which means you're not using two dimensional picture for that. And we could already prove that the clouds move. We had already proved the clouds move before the debunk came out. In fact, we had proved the clouds moved like a week before the debunk came out. So if somebody had planned for this debunk to come out, they didn't have time to respond to us already proving that the clouds were moving. What we did was we sped up or actually it wasn't me again. Somebody else on social media. They just sped up the video because each se sequence is only a few seconds long. They just sped it up. And not only can you see that the clouds are moving, the clouds are actually evolving. Meaning that like the tops of the clouds moves more than the bottom of the cloud. So go ahead and show the video that I just shared there. So this is the very short. There's a longer version that explains the process of how he did this, but there you go. I mean, you can see the cloud moving. Now, the reason why it doesn't look like it's moving more is because each sequence is only a couple seconds long. And then here was the real kicker. This was the one where like it's hard to claim the videos are fake after this. Somebody did a color changing on the the satellite video. You can see the orb go right through the smoke trail. Like you can just see it displace the smoke like clear as day. Fluid dynamics right there. Who? No way. Somebody faked this. And before you ask, you can actually even if you look closely in the original, you can see it. But you can't. It's so faint that you the the color change makes it like stick out like a sore thumb. Wow. This was the part where I was like, god damn. Like everything's real. Like those aren't just orbs they like painted into the picture, you know? Like that's interacting with the environment. Um, and my friend, Professor Simon Holland, he's a filmmaker. He does he's got a pretty big YouTube channel as well. He also said that the way the orbs spin around the plane, how they do their like triangle thing, like that's a key indicator, too, of like extreme difficulty because getting it to like go behind an object is one of the more difficult things in visual effects. And they're doing it nonstop as they're like spinning around the plane. He's like, "If you were to do fake this, you wouldn't go to all that effort to do like the most difficult thing to fake either." So, those are just a couple examples for why like there's no way we're looking at like a two-dimensional picture of clouds in there. You got clouds moving, you got these multiple uh environments. Now, the part that freaked me out about that, and this is just me being honest with you guys, is like when that happened, first of all, Kim.com was immediately pressuring me to say the videos were fake. Immediately when I woke up that morning and I'm like, "Dude, what what is going on?" And even later that day after I was like, I had issued this statement about them, which everybody still copy and paste now saying that he said the videos were fake. I deleted that within under like 24 hours, maybe even sooner after we couldn't find the pictures anywhere, any torrent or anything like that. I was like something sketchy about this. But what scared me was that like how much effort did somebody have to go to to plant pictures like that on the internet? Uh to me that was like that showed that somebody really doesn't want this to come out. Like they had this planned ahead of time. Even if it's not the best debunk even if it like was kind of dead on arrival cuz you needed to have something better than pictures to debunk the videos. Um it still shows like yeah, there was a coordinated effort to try to get these go away and convince the general public that you should not look into these or ask questions. Cuz here's the last thing I'll say is that assume for a second there's even a 1% chance those videos are real. Wouldn't it be worth it to try to at least just ask basic questions about like, hey, United States government, did you like, you know, just asking Zap MH370 with some plasma orbs? Cuz this is kind of some crazy, but nobody wants to ask the United States government any questions, right? Even though even with a tiny vanishing chance of them being real, we should be just asking the questions. So, I just think that's odd. Wow. You know, you when you mentioned like possib potential of like plasma, this is like some sort of plasma that they're using. you know, reminded me that, you know, I didn't really think much about it before, but when so when the fault when the Soviet Union during the time when like Reagan was president and they come up with the pro, it's like Star Wars is what they nicknamed it, but I think it's like strategic defense defense initiative, I think it was called. But when they were negotiating and a lot of things that I read about is like Reagan was actually being very hyperbolic about what the what they had and this was basically trying to convince the Soviet Union to denuclearize so they can because what they were saying is the Star Wars or strategic defense initiative was making the capability that these are going to render nuclear weapons ineffective. So like this was like a way to get Gorbachoff in the Soviet Union to like hey we don't need these nuclear weapons you know once you um denuclearize we'll open up to this program that's that we have that will show you our capabilities that we have and the thing that they mentioned in it was like some nuclear charges that they had or particle like I think a lot of the focus on was the particle beam weapons or something like that and that's why it got the nickname Star Wars because that was really popular in the 80s. But they also mention plasma energy weapons in there. And I think that's just really I mean it's not really a question, but it's really just a comment this like that's really interesting that you know they were talking about this even in the 80s. Now I don't know if you know Reagan really had this information or if he was just told about this or if this was like real you know everything I saw about it is everyone's saying like oh this was just hyperbolic. So Reagan was trying to get them to convince convince them to denuclearize. Well, maybe now that you say that, it makes me think like, well, maybe they really did have something and showed the Soviets something or gave them information that really did, you know, like, you know, if someone fires a nuclear missile and they have the capability to literally zap it out of the sky to somewhere else, like maybe back toward Russia or something like, you know, that would almost make people like, well, then we shouldn't use these anymore because it's basically, you know, this can be used against us or something like that or how you said in the beginning where they could just literally fire it have these orbs and they just teleport right to their target right away and yeah yeah no I think this is good I in terms of like I know some of you guys have to drop as well so if we if you want to make this last topic or we can keep going whatever but like this is a good kind of last topic which is that nuclear weapons are obsolete in the face of this technology that's becomes really apparent when you start to think about what this technology means from different aspects and yes it could you Going back to the Soviet era in the 80s, that's when people like Tom Bearden were talking about the science related to this. This idea that the ether exists, space is not empty, all the prerequisites for this were being told to us. And people were saying that gravity waves exist and all stuff. We were just ignoring it. Um so yeah, it could go all the way back to, you know, Reagan and the uh Star Wars, you know, whatever initiative in terms of what it was. Um and that would be a big secret that you want to hide, right? You don't want your adversaries to know that we can obsolete your weaponry. Um, but even Salvador Pais, US Navy engineer, just yesterday, he told me nukes are like obsolete. And if somebody were to fire a nuke at us, we would probably just zap it with a directed energy weapon. Uh, like the moment that it it released. Imagine you fire a nuke and somebody blows it up the moment you release it. Like now you wonder like why we're not building nukes anymore. It's not even that it doesn't launch. It just detonates. Wow. I So I have kind of a almost a political question which maybe you don't have anything or political organization. We're talking about the US government. I mean at at this level like is it is there a and I'm not even talking conspiracy but like obviously there's the UN. Is is it like a subsection of the US government or is it like a American proxy but a larger multinational type coalition that's controlling this type of thing? That's the big question that I'm not 100% sure about. But like you know Steven Greer I think is he's been the one when it comes to this idea of this breakaway civilization. He's the one who's been most on it when he talks on podcasts and stuff like that most correct. I don't think any one person's 100% correct. I don't agree with all the stuff he says, but he would call it like a multinational syndicate, which is probably pretty accurate because it's not as simple as like just these various people at the top like have are in the club. It's more of like if you are smart enough and awake enough to know that it's real plus a combination of being exposed to it in whatever position you're in, if that's related to defense contractor work or being in politics or the military at a certain rank and a level in the right spot. And so it then creates this like good old boys club almost uh secret, you know, behind the-scenes handshake club of people that are just unaccountable above the law. Doesn't even matter. They're potentially more powerful than the president is. Um, and you know, like we see when we see like I for some reason I keep thinking about Alex Murdo, uh, that that murderer who like killed his wife and his and his son, but not just because of that, but because of how like he abused his position to like basically just be above the law in his own little county essentially. Stuff like that basically, but happening at a almost international scale. Yeah. They're not they can't be accountable to anybody. Yeah. And the other part about the Murdo thing, which is interesting related to this, is that when the Murdoch trial was happening, uh I love true crime stuff, so I was watching it go down. There were so many people arguing that he's not going to be found guilty because there was no like direct evidence of like no video of him killing his wife and his son. People just couldn't believe that he would kill his own wife and his son. Like, how could a father do that? It's not possible. Even though the weapons used were 100% confirmed to be owned by the family and they happen to be missing as well, the two weapons that were actually used and people didn't believe it. They couldn't believe it. And it goes to show that even in a situation where like you're never going to convince people all the time. doesn't matter, right? And what does proof and the burden mean? In the end, what ended up happening in the murd trial is a lot of people and myself included, argue that the only reason why he was end up founding guilty, despite the overwhelming circumstantial evidence, his argument was he was sleeping in the house when it was going down and the house was like 500 yards away from the the kennels where all the crime went down. Well, it turned out he didn't know that his son was recording when he was like doing a video for one of the dogs that they were taking care of and he didn't know his son was recording. And in the recording, you can hear the father's voice in the background. And there's a time stamp on the recording that proved he wasn't actually up at the house. The time stamp on the recording was in minutes of when the crime happened. Now, why do I bring this up? Look at all the analogies to the MH370 case. That was the only reason why Murdoch was potentially convicted because otherwise people were just going to give him the benefit of the doubt. They didn't want to believe that it was possible. But once that came out, there was like cuz people were and people were inventing these stories. They were going, "Well, two people could have snuck onto the property and then stolen the guns and then used the guns and killed the family because they were mad about something else." And this is the same stuff that happens with the videos. People go, "Well, somebody could have faked this video." And it's you're like, "But who what's the like who's the person that did this?" Like, "Where are they? And what where were their skill sets to pull this off, right? Like who's the hired assassin that snuck onto the Murdo like ranch in the middle of nowhere that did this, you know?" Yeah. It's the same kind of thing where like you have to come up with like what's the story? Anyone can play the denialism game all day long. What's the story for the person that faked the video? Or what's the story for the videos being real? Or what's the what's the case for somebody else killing the wife and the and the son versus what's the case for Murdoch being the one that did it? And it turns out much like the M270 case, there's all this evidence where like turns out they can plot that he left the the the ranch or the area right after that and then came back and drove back where he was, you know, throwing to hiding evidence. And when you look at it from the perspective of him being guilty, it all makes complete sense, right? If you look at it from perspective of trying to give him the benefit of the doubt, it's like you have to come up with a more and more in implausible series of excuses for why all these things were happening. And it's like that in the MH370 situation and just the case of the plane in general. So what I'd say to this is that like I don't I almost wish the videos didn't even exist and I have no preconceived notion for what's happening in the videos. If all I was caring about was being famous, I would certainly be selling a story that makes a lot it's more palatable to people. I wouldn't be selling the most difficult palatable story because I'll be famous no matter what the answer is if I solve the the mystery of MH370, right? So that's not the reason why I'm doing it. Um so yeah, really like you know any story that were to make sense, I'd be happy to believe it. Uh and at for me that's all I did is I said what's the story overall story that makes sense in the totality of the evidence and in this case even without the MH370 videos the really only party that could be responsible in my opinion is the United States military and government and even without the videos we know for sure the United States military must know what happened to that missing plane between all our surveillance capabilities that that nobody really knew about, including our surveillance system that's like monitoring all the oceans all the time. And all the foyer requests that I put in. I've got a stack of foyer requests like 20 deep to everybody from the CIA, the NSA, the NRO, the Navy. Basically, they either say they don't have anything or they reject it for national security. So it's like, yeah, even like stuff like a fire suppression device that washed up in the Maldes that's looks like an exact match to a Boeing trip 7 fire suppression device. Like that's kept secret. I'm like it's clearly they know what happened to this plane. I wish people would just kind of wake up because once people realize the United States knows what happened to this plane, you're only like one logical leap from realizing the videos must be what actually occurred. Yeah. Yeah. They're insane. Um, wow. U, I I had a question. There's a couple in the chat, too, that we can do. Um, I've been taking notes. Like, somebody asked, "Is there something inside the orbs?" And I think there is, but it's some kind It's like it's creating plasma outside of it, around it, like a field, and probably perpetually creating it or at least like keeping it stable. So, that's the best. I don't have all the answers for you, but that's my answer for is there something in there? I think so. And the main reason why though is that that dark line coming in front of the orbs that seems to be like pulling them forward. I think that's some kind of laser being projected out from in whatever's inside the orbs and that's how they're flying around. Um, another thing Obama knows. Yeah, Obama definitely knows for sure. It's crazy because I supported Obama, but I'm like I once I started digging into like the chain of command for like Black Ops, it goes directly to the president. Yeah. And even if the president didn't know, they have to get briefed like afterwards for like policy and damage control. So Obama's implicated for sure. And actually, the more I look back at his attitude change and how he got like super hardened by being president, it actually wouldn't surprise me if he saw some crazy [ __ ] like this and was like, "Damn, the world's a lot darker place than even he realized, you know?" Yeah. Um, are you familiar with that story of the journalist that got off, Michael Hastings, uh, who had reported on General Mcrist? Uh, not sounds really familiar. It was pretty. Didn't his like vehicle just like drive off the road randomly? Was that how he died? Yeah, this was before MH370. It looks like it was before it was like common knowledge of a uh that uh like remote controlling a vehicle was was common knowledge that it was after that. But uh the the why I wanted to compare this is because the guy who he really um kind of exposed with this was uh Mcrist General Mcrist I think and he was the he was I mean you look at this guy by the way we're we're also both Marine veterans. Um so this military stuff Well thank you for that. I appreciate it. Um, but like understanding how these these hierarchy structures work from being inside it, like this kind of stuff doesn't surprise me. And I remember when I was when I was hearing about this, like this guy is not only a four-star general, which is extraordinary, but he was also the general of a bunch of special operations commands for a long time. And you know, that's interesting. Aams he's the one sorry Sam he's the one that came up with the idea of uh coin counterinsurgency so he was like a coinista is what they called them back in the day and it was his plan that they implemented to bring democracy and peace to uh Afghanistan if you watch uh there's a movie about this on Netflix it's called uh War Machine it's got Brad Pitt that plays Mcrist and it's actually it's more of a dark comedy perspective of the movie, but it actually it has the guy that plays Michael Hastings in it and it deals like, you know, why like the whole movie just goes and explain like how the story got exposed. It's not like a really big secret. It's just they got really comfortable with this journalist and thought he wouldn't put all this stuff about him slandering the president in there. Yeah, that's pretty interesting and started putting a lot of this in a new light. I actually didn't know you guys were Marines otherwise I would have asked you a lot of other questions too but because that that's too part of it where I think the I'm a civilian uh so we are too now for me as an analyst because I'm I do healthcare IT so my normal job is being an analyst I want to know how everything works so big part of this for me is like how does that chain of command work uh so for me a lot of the information came from this guy John Ramirez who's a GE15 CIA agent and he was like he's kind of public in the UFO community But I find his most interesting stuff when he talks about the chain of command stuff. One of the interesting things was we looked up that guy Edward Lynn and we found his Facebook page before they deleted it. And uh he was friends with General Flynn and General Flynn also kind of got black ballalled and the case against him is very political and sketchy as well. And General Flynn followed me on Twitter early on and I just thought that was really bizarre. And I'm like, because if you look up what his position was, he was director of national of uh the the DIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency. They were the ones that Hal Pudof, they issued all these scientific papers about gravity and fusion and negative energy and all the stuff you warp drives, wormholes, all these advanced scientific papers. So, I'm going and when you look at the timeline, you're like the timeline of those papers getting issued, you know, uh Flynn would have at least known about it. And then now there's this weird political scandal related to him and you're going, "Okay, if somebody knows about some advanced [ __ ] like this, well, you you would like, you know, disgrace them and publicly humiliate them and discredit them and, you know, like this is exactly the kind of sketchy [ __ ] I imagine would be going on." whether or not you hate him or like him, I'm just saying that's the case, right? So, I don't know. I'm curious of your guys' opinions and all that. And also, just on the idea of like I think the general public would want to know, are we really out there just doing black operations? Like, how often are we out there doing sketchy black operations? Like, I think the public doesn't really even think it's real, you know? Yeah. Uh, it's probably much more significant nowadays. the military actually turned to special forces like over the over the course of the the war on terrorism. This is like the standard like it's Navy SE like the Marine Corps just made a whole new special I mean it's been in the works but it's called Marox. It's been like in the background for a while but the Marine Corps literally because the demand for it was so high and that's like that is where the military went nowadays. Yeah, it is. And um there there's some things I'd prefer to say off the air probably about it, but I think I I could probably help you a lot with uh with that type of thing as both a Marine veteran, although just a mechanic, but you still understand the stuff. And we still had Navy Seals come on our boat every once in a while on deployment. So I But I'll talk about that off the air uh if you'd like. Yeah. And uh as an anthropologist, I'm just curious because yeah, I think the bigger thing is just more so that they happen more often than what people think is that we're, you know, in terms of black operations probably. And it's probably more morally ambiguous than what people think. I I don't know if you guys saw that guy, Robert J. O'Neal, uh the one who shot Osama bin Laden. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. He had this clip. I think he was on Shawn Ryan where he does this clip where he's like when he started to wonder about like what he was doing and why he was shooting people and and like would I in a different world would like I have a beer with that guy? Would like we get along and be friends, you know? And started wondering like am I just doing [ __ ] for these like faceless bureaucrats like hiding, you know, behind their desks and stuff like that? Uh and I think about that a lot too in terms of you know the human aspect of it in terms of what are we hid what are we protecting you know and you could argue that for national security you can argue all kinds of atrocities in the interest of national security kind of scares me. Yeah. Yeah. Well then there's like uh you know and like you can always go into like what our go like what our forces are doing and what like crazy stuff. I mean, there's lots of stuff with like the CIA that's come out that's like verifiably proven that they did that was like experiments, MK Ultra, stuff like that. Um, but you know, like the entire Middle East was basically the British intelligence and US intelligence playground for count funding and countering different oppositions that they deemed that was their enemy at the time. This is notoriously known for the Soviet Union that we fund the Mujahedin. Muhajin became al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda was basically funded by the United States most of its history up until they flew buildings into our tower and then all of a sudden they're our enemy. But we while we were fighting them in Afghanistan, we're also funding them in Pakistan. So it's just like this huge mind [ __ ] almost of like who we're funding and who we're actually and where this money even comes from, who's funding who. Um there's just a lot of stuff that a lot of people don't actually know. relationships, right? Like like what I will say on the air is the like when you're talking about like special operations guys, they're these unofficial positions. They're they're not unofficial. They are official, but they're not like ranks. But like for someone like me, even if I outranked like a marine raider who is a special operations guy, he in in theory, in truth, he's supposed to do what I say within the the rules. But in practice that right that's not going to happen. In in certain cases it would even be like a pogue like us who's someone who's not a infantry guy. The the infantry uh a lance corporal a lower rank would not listen to me as a pogue corporal. He he wouldn't listen to me. Um but think about that as it goes higher up, right? Because you get into the special operations, they don't they're not going to listen to anybody even though technically you're supposed to. Um, but you you get above special operations, you get into the more specialized, you get into to more like uh spook kind of things and there's just there even if there is an official power structure that they are beholden to in practice it just doesn't work like that and and that becomes the thing and there's historical precedents for this as well with units like the Ptorians and the Janisaries for the the Turkish Empire where these individual components of a a larger government structure or military they effectively, you know, they they push their weight. They they over time it can shift that they are less accountable. They're not beholden to the same rules for whatever reason and they can then get to do whatever they want if there's nobody above them. And I think that when you're dealing with this type of thing that you're talking about, you're dealing with not the special operations guy who can flip off a lieutenant to his face. you're dealing with a guy that's three tiers above that and that means they can kind of do whatever they want. That makes a lot of sense. I actually appreciate this insight. Um I do want to say that not only is it just al-Qaeda, but even ISIS, we made ISIS, too. I mean, we left a power vacuum and then ISIS jumped in. It's actually insane that it was like all the people we left behind in the prisons and we just let them run free and once they got out, they just became ISIS. It's like, oh [ __ ] all the battles we've been fighting are our own product. Like um but the thing too is like when you look into the Edward Lynn case that what you just mentioned even puts another interesting angle on it. There's this code of conduct unofficial especially this brotherhood within these special operations units and this code of silence in it as well that he technically broke by you know releasing this information. I mean he put these everybody in danger who was part of that operation to be exposed as well. Uh if he did leak those videos, they will frag you for that. They will end your life for something like that. Oh, exactly. And that's why there's no accountability because you're out in the fields doing hidden missions. That that type of thing. And it turns out when they arrested him, they abused the [ __ ] out of him as well. He actually reported the abuse. I mean, they were probably telling him that they were going to kill him if he didn't uh take the plea deal, right? And there's a thousand guys that have been killed that you don't hear the names of because it's written down somewhere that they died in a helicopter crash or against the Taliban. Yeah. And that's is super scary. I 100% believe it. I absolutely believe it. And the only reason why Edward Lynn got the treatment that he did, which nine years in prison after a plea deal, this was the good treatment that he got, was because he probably did it indirectly. He probably wasn't trying to do it. Everything I read about the guy indicates he's a patriot. He was probably not trying to screw us over. He either thought that was aliens and released it only to find out later on it was us or he showed somebody else those videos, they put it on the internet. And so now he's technically responsible, but he's also not going to blab. And this is important because this is why he's ghosted me. This is why he changed his name legally instead of like reaching out to me because he did leak the videos, but he can't he can't say anything about it. He doesn't want to say anything about it. He's trying to trying to protect the government here, which is noble. It's noble, but bro, I mean, the videos are out there now. They're not going away. So, yeah, it's noble, but in a sense, it's it's probably it could be fear, too. I mean, look what they I mean, Julius Julian Assange is free now, but he spent I think nearly a decade in a in a prison like Yeah. He and he might not even be I was thinking Snowden, but yes, there's many such cases, too, right? Yeah. Julian Assange was like basically being tortured to death, like beat and uh as far as like he was being starved, mistreated completely and um but yeah, I mean he's free for now. Um and I don't know how like I think honestly just because he got so notorious like he was so famous that there was just too much pressure that from from their perspective that they almost had to let him go. And he never released uh like he was never a military person that released um classified information. He just published it. That was what was released to him. So like the depths that they'll go through to stop these people and what they'll put you through is like scary enough to deter people away from doing that. Yeah. It makes me wonder why more people haven't come after me. But I you can look at it from two angles. One, they kind of have. I mean there people even now just in the last week two different podcasters told me straight up they've got people reaching out to them telling them they shouldn't have me on that I'm going to hurt them or that or like you know hurt their credibility all this stuff. like you don't that doesn't happen when people are talking about Bigfoot and stuff like that like so why is that happening right now? Um so you could argue that they're kind of it is kind of happening. The other angle too though to that answer is like well a I'm just a normal guy so I'm not really doing anything wrong by revealing this even if you argue and and you know who knows from I could say plausible deniability. I don't know that it's necessarily real. I think it is but whatever. So, it's kind of a little bit more difficult as opposed if it's somebody who's like a scientist who's breaking the law and now you're like you feel justified in silencing them versus just some random guy happened to find out that there's this [ __ ] on the line, right? So, I think there might be a little bit of that. And then the last angle is well maybe it's all coming out anyway and you can only hide it for so long. So, it's like how many more people do we got to kill before we're just going to we're hiding some [ __ ] out there. whatever it is. And I would also say I have to say on this off the air a lot. I'll just say one thing real quick, but uh it honestly it is probably like there might be I mean maybe what you said is right. This stuff's coming out and and they just don't, you know, they're not going to shut someone down when they they know it's going to be released or whatever. But I think it also has to do with the fact that you're you're following online because yeah, people that are more popular, it's harder to eliminate them. you know, it's not like the 1915s anymore where, you know, someone or whatever 1920, 1930, someone goes looks at what's going on in the Soviet Union and they just like, you know, get get killed and no one ever hears from them again and they're like, "What happened to that guy?" But now, because we're interactive with our audience and like especially someone like you that dives into stuff like this and connects with other people that if you just go missing, I mean that's gonna like even if Yeah, it would be really weird. And then like even if like maybe the things you were the rabbit trail you were going on say like just hypothetically it's not real. Well then now all your audience and all these people online are going to be like hey this guy was like looking into some weird government stuff and then he just disappeared. So like they're hiding something you know. Yeah. Yeah. So I think you're right there on that front. Um and yeah that's why I was very uh part of the reason why I was very just wanted to be out there and putting as much stuff out there. I think we reached past that point of the zeitgeist. People now know about it. So, I don't know. You guys, people can believe whatever they want to believe in terms of why I haven't been silenced. I will be honest though, I haven't had anybody overtly tell me. What I will say is I had a pretty pretty good trusted source tell me that like there were definitely like intelligence of other countries watching and monitoring like my content and what I was doing and stuff like that, which I believed. I mean, I would be surprised if they weren't assuming I was talking about real. Um, but you know, beyond that, not much. And then I'm not afraid anyway, honestly. Like, uh, you know, it'd be a pretty noble cause to go out and try to get free energy and, you know, plasma orbs and warp drives for people. So, not too afraid. It probably wouldn't be the first one if it did happen. No, it probably a pretty long list, frankly. The more I've looked into it, I'm like, damn. Yeah. I'm like, this is part of reason why I don't take it too seriously either, where I'm like, you know what? You look at it like this. If they want to take you out, they've got 101 ways to do it and you're never there's never going to be suspected, right? Heart attack gun, slowly poison you to death in your food. I mean, if they're like manipulating the supply line of the lithium batteries or whatever they were doing, like the And this is actually one last question I want to ask you guys. Yeah. Yeah. Is um there was this 60 Minutes MSAD whistleblower guy. I actually edited part of it into this letter that was posted to me and it talks about how like the intelligence agencies like set up like a whole script for how like something's going to play out and like they're like the producers and like they had this whole thing about it. Do you think that's all real from your perspective of like, you know, possibly like the idea of special operations that like they're really like when they do an operation, it's like here's the playbook for how it's going to go like, you know, front to back and and that and here's plan A and B if there's a deviation. Do you think that's pretty accurate or do you think like executing an obser like operation? Absolutely. Yeah. Like surgical. Oh yes. Like with respect to MH370 thing like okay now the fire is going to go off and then then we're going to have a deviate the plane and then there's going to be an intercept point here and yeah things like that 100%. I mean like pulling that off is probably one of the easier things they could do. I mean hiding it is the difficult part but pulling that off like compared I mean these guys flew helicopters into Pakistan in the middle of the night got dropped off and nobody in the neighborhood knew what had happened like they're these these guys are inhuman they're they're another level and and we're Marines but like compared to her her them nothing we're absolutely nothing it's like not even a comparison I I've known some people who have uh done like mock um like training fights as uh OP 4 as the enemy for Navy Seals. And the experience they described to me was absolutely terrifying. And I've had some myself playing OP 4 for recon marines, which is like one step above infantry. They're like they're they're cool, but they're like once you get up to special operations, I mean this is years of training. these guys sleeping three hours of night, hypothermia. Yeah, they are superhumans um in every way and in mind and I will tell you more off the air and also I have some people I I think you need to know. Yeah. Um anything else? Surprised me. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So they they do some crazy operations and um Yeah. So the movie we were talking about was, you know, they were talking about the Bin Laden raid, Zero Dark 30, and they flew these Were the helicopters secret at the time, too? I don't remember if the helicopters were secret, but I thought they were. They blew one of them up. So they drop these guys in, nobody even notices, right? Imagine somebody drops in your house in a helicopter and it's silent. the helicopter's silent and they just drop in on you and they just go in and they just start mowing people down and and nobody's even waking up and by the time anyone even notices anything's going on. They're already getting out of there pulling every laptop, blowing up the helicopter that that that you know fell that was damaged. It's like and there's one Pakistani guy live tweeting the event not knowing what's happening or that Osama bin Laden was living next to him. That's why I didn't know till the next morning. It is completely badass that I got to talk to Robert J. O'Neal because he's the guy there's some controversy over did he really shoot him or did he like you know try to steal the valor by leaking it to the public or whatever. But I looked into him and he's like involved in several big operations including he was involved in the Alabama MK the Tom Hanks movie. Um Captain Phelps like I'm the captain now. that one. Yeah. Apparently he was involved in that operation too. I didn't know that actually. Yeah. I googled it. I was like, "Oh shit." Because the reason why I Googled it, I don't know if you guys know this, but on September like 8th or 9th of last year, randomly, Robert J. O'Neal, the same guy we're talking about, he just tweets out of nowhere, Malaysian Airlines flight 370 was never a mystery. It was always a warning to China. He tweets that out out of nowhere and I'm going what? I'm this is the guy that shot I I didn't know who he was at all. So I'm like I because this is Robert G. O'Neal I and I didn't really pay that much attention to like all the names of the people. So I Google and I'm like that's the seal that shot Bin Laden. Like if you imagine anybody would like be in the know about some crazy [ __ ] or have heard something you know through the rumor mill. And then he goes on Alex Jones like a week later and he's on Alex Jones and out of nowhere he just starts dropping. I just got to tell you that Malaysian flight it was six generational warfare. It even Alex Jones didn't even know how to respond. And then he says it again when Alex Jones doesn't follow up on that when he just randomly blurts that out. He's like, "Yeah, I just want to say again that I'm pretty sure that that was us. That was one message to China to knock it off. And I'm like, "Holy shit." And I Google, "What's sixth generational warfare?" Never even heard of that before. I've heard of fifth, but not sixth. Yeah, exactly. I'd heard of fifth, right? He was like, "Oh, air aerospace, you know, control over air, like psychological warfare." Sixth generational warfare is warfare over space and time. Oh my god. I was like, "Okay." So, people start like trolling and asking him like, "Dude, who did you are you following Ashton? Like, how are you? It's just too on the nose, right? Like, what's going on here?" He wasn't following me before that. He started following me after. And finally, he replied to one of my tweets when I was like calling out like, "Dude, bro, what?" And he said like, "If I told you," he just goes, "If I told you dot dot dot, as in like, if I told you, I'd have to kill you. Like I'm like, "Okay, dude. I don't know if he's being koi. He probably is." But pretty damn weird, man. Between you. And like General Flynn and all this stuff. Like I don't really know what the hell is going on. Like it feels like there's some political drama behind the scenes with respect to the technology and all this stuff. And maybe it's connected to UFO stuff. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. But I think like now is the time for exploring this stuff like more than ever before. Um yeah, I think that that's that's the thing. Now is the time. Now is the time to get it out there like wake people up. Teach people about Tesla. Like I tell people and this is true. I thought Tesla was a mythical figure. I grew up no one ever Tesla and [ __ ] I'm like, is he real or is this a Did we just make him up? Like, he's the man that invented electricity. You're like, is that real or not? I don't know. Oh, it turns out he did. He literally invented the electricity that we still use today. And we just never thought to even ever try to improve it or like learn what it was that led him to understand it. He knew there was an ether. The ether is the zero point energy. So when we are pulling energy out, Tesla would say we're churning up the ether. What you're doing is you're churning up the ether. You're pulling this energy out and you're capturing a little bit of it to make your light turn on. And if you look at the energy like that, then of course there's free energy because we're just anytime anything turns on, we're just turning up this ether that's out there. And that's why Tesla believed in free energy. And that's why he believed of course you could pull energy from the earth or from you know really anything else. He was a visionary that believed that like energy is just movement and when we look in the universe we see movement everywhere. And he believed that some future advanced civilization would be able to pull energy from empty space itself. There's a quote from his uh 1891 lecture 135 years ago. Dude was so far ahead of his time. It's just it's crazy. And they taught me in high school that he was actually insane and going down a path. They do that for every visionary though. Yeah. But now part of it I'll say this. I've interviewed a lot of these engineers and I can see why it's difficult for a lot of them to have credibility. Like there are a lot of weird ass people and people that are not very socially well adjusted as well. Um, not saying that I'm the best either, but like and they also have this tend you're biscuit American now. Sorry. Continue. Oh, yeah. They have this tendency though where they will latch on like once they find out that like, oh, gravity technology exists. Then they just take it to like, okay, this means the Anunnaki created us and blah blah blah, right? Which is, well, that's where they're going to discredit you. Like the moment you took it there to that extreme and they might even be right. They might be right. Maybe the Anunnaki did create. Maybe sacred geometry is all the secrets to everything and consciousness or what have you. But you got to realize for the normie people that are like still on step one. Like you're just taking it way too far for those people. So maybe it is just a matter of like what now is the right time and we start waking people up. Yeah. And I I think that last thing because we we got to wrap this up, but um the the plausibility of an idea, even if it's not like if you use AAM's razor, just pick the the most reasonable likely solution. Um if there is something that is plausible but more ideologically consistent and worldview consistent, that's the way it's going to go. similar to the way that a lot of early um early cultural I I don't want to use the word primitive but that's essentially what we're talking about here. Um like hunter gatherer horiculturalist types they'll explain a lot of things in terms of magic. Um, and you know, if you can't reason with the the more difficult uh thing like that the video that you're sharing is true, then a less uh a less sound answer that actually allows you to sleep at night is is the way that most people are going to go and they're not going to read in past the headline or the abstract into the article to see if the if the evidence supports it. Um, but yeah, thank you so much for coming on, Ashton. This was obviously incredible. Um, and subscribe to Five Till Midnight and we'll end it. Well, thank you guys. Appreciate it.