MH370 Discussion with Sonic Gravity (Brad Voorhees)
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# MH370 Discussion with Sonic Gravity (Brad Voorhees) and I and once we found out about that and they were only like told about on March 20th the Malaysian Airlines CEO was lying about the fact there was no dangerous cargo on board the plane which is really important right plane goes missing one of the first questions is was what was the cargo on board right could it have blown up or something and then March 20th said oh yeah there was 500 pounds of it I think it took like a year for them to find out that it had missed two security screenings the batteries were put together that day like literally right before they go on the plane which all to me seemed extremely suspicious but the real kicker in terms of why the battery fire scenario in my mind is 100% accurate is the witnesses 19 witnesses that corroborate this event um and actually I worked backwards from it is once we figured out the location which was the nicobar islands of the videos that's when I started looking back at the witnesses and realized Katherine T was right there in the nicobar islands on a boat with her husband and one crew member I believe where they were going from uh uh India to puket Thailand and she was at the location where the plane supposedly turns into the South Indian Ocean and she has a well documented sighting of seeing the plane with no navigation lights glowing orange and flying low descending with smoke coming out of the back of it and I looked at that and we kept wondering like why is the plane glowing Orange right is this some kind of UFO thing causing it right but none of it made any sense because the plan's never out running these orbs in the videos like like the orbs are going so fast there's just no chance so yeah it wasn't until I saw a comment between some people where they said I've got this weird theory that maybe the hon fire extinguishing gas is releasing bromine which is a hallogen gas and I started asking people looking into and sure enough Allon 1301 has bromine in it and if you there's a certain chemical reaction I don't know if it's like you have to pour water on it or what where bromine can get released and if bromine's getting released for like an hour for more than an hour it's going to have this glow orange gas permeating throughout the whole plane where it explains why she would see this kind of hazy Halo type effect around the plane that you said only extended about 5% out of the plane so very close and tight to the plane it wasn't that she was seeing fire she was seeing the gas you know coming out of the plane and and then the pitch black people go well how could you see in the pitch black actually when it's pitch black you can even see even better because stuff stands out even more when you are like you know in the country and you can see the stars and everything right you don't have as much light pollution so um then I worked backwards and I was like okay holy crap she saw the plane and this is consistent with a fire event I looked at all the other Witnesses Mike McCay literally sees the plane on fire uh for about five to 10 seconds just as the batteries go off and it makes sense because the uh fire extinguishing devices automatically kick in like the there the first ones that go off and the cargo bay are automatic and then after that there's like a low flow rate that will continually pour the hon into the cargo bay but when you're doing that the reaction sucks oxygen out of the cargo that's how the fire extinguishing devices work so if you're sucking oxygen out of the plane you need to add oxygen so what you would do is depressurize the plane and you would descend so that there's enough oxygen for oxygen to get in for people to be able to breathe because those oxygen masks and if you've been watching the Boeing Fiasco that's been going on um one of the whistleblowers I think was also saying the one I think who ended up quote unquote killing himself um was saying that a lot of the oxygen Mass like 25% of them like don't even work like there's just like I would never trust the oxygen mask on the plan just Placebo yeah basically like that's what I've heard which that would not would not surprise me but yeah or like maybe there's just laughing gas in it so you just chill out before you die you know yeah I think that if your bag does not inflate and they tell you not to worry I'm worrying right but or it's like do you see the hole in the side of that plane it's just like dude you know wear your seat belt the whole time I'm not seat Bel or the other plane recently where it like descended like 500 feet within like a second because the engine just went out in the middle of the middle of the flight that was like last week and then a bunch of people got hurt like 50 people got hurt someone was like seriously injured because they you know went up to the ceiling and then crash back down where your seat belt boys and girls wear your seat belt um but yeah so Mike McKay sees the plane on fire a few seconds he gets discredited he loses his job he has his life ruined um eight there's nine Witnesses along the coast on different towns they hear loud noises consistent with they thought it was like some kind of engine malfunction explosion something like that it was probably just the batteries exploding and then um 10 minutes later when the plane turns around there's eight fishermen on a boat 10 miles off the coast of Thailand and Malaysia that also see the plane flying unusually low right and this is all going to be consistent with the fire event where they're you know they're flying low to give the passengers enough oxygen and that's inconsistent with the um some of the reports out there about the plane flying higher up also I found out that when the plane's flying lower it actually goes faster as well um which is interesting because we need to cover a lot of ground really quickly especially to get to the location and the coordinates that we have in the video um and so it goes back to panang which if you're flying back to panang um that's the closest airport you could go to to land a 777 safely with a long enough Runway the other airport you would consider going to is qual lumur um but it's the middle of the night and there's the mountains are there's actually some mountains around that area I looked up it looks like they go up to about 7,000 feet which is a little bit dangerous I mean you're if you're trying to fly under 10,000 feet for oxygen and above 7,000 feet like yeah that seems like you got a nice little Gap there but in the middle of the night where you can see nothing it's yeah you're threading the needle right it's a little bit scary so you want to go to the airport that has the best uh you know Al like altitude or best landscape where you have the least amount of uh possibility of crashing into a mountain right so this it could have been a judgment call but you could also argue that if this is really an Espionage event which I'm at this point I think I'm conclusively going with then that plane could even have been remote controlled it could have been remote controlled from the time where it turns around it could be remote controlled right before the zap in the videos somewhere in like the Straits of Mala um there's like a log on attempt on the satcom that happens at 1825 UTC which is one of those planes like out in the Andaman sea there near the nicobar islands um and that could be consistent with one of these awax one of these American like radar jamming planes like taking control of the aircraft at that point you know maybe preparing it for the zap event that's going to happen um that part we can't really know we can only speculate right but you know some people have done some pretty good analysis on you know Captain Dan Hanley field McConnell others as well think of speculated this uh uninterruptible autopilot that the Boeing planes got put on them after 911 because they wanted ways to like you know prevent another 911 from happening if people were to hijack the plane but I think some of the strongest evence is the Malaysian Minister of Defense right if this is a hijacking a pilot suicide or any other hostile event then Malaysia would have sent Jets up and people say well they were just idiots no they were not just idiots right that doesn't that doesn't really add up right they didn't J and they admitted that the plane was not hostile they how did they know the plane wasn't hostile only way is you have communication with the plane and then they people well why was there no why didn't they release any you know recordings of that well the answer is pretty clear because it's a cover up right so they only tell you the communications up until 1719 UTC right before the plane goes dark they're not going to tell you about any of the ones that would expose them right yeah I think I think what you're saying what like what you've laid out in terms of the case for the battery fire makes I think it's plausible right you can't I don't think you can deny that it's not plausible but there's one thing that is just a little bit different um there's one thing that gives me a little bit different of a take and something that just kind of caused me to raise an eyebrow and that is that you know it's kind of like when people talk about 911 right and some people think there was like you know explosives the buildings were wired to blow and all that kind of thing and apart from like how how long it would take to like actually drill that if you look and see like what it really takes to do a control demolition um the months and years and hundreds of people and stuff yep the uh the idea that like a plane would hit and we've got this crazy demolition thing going on at the same time to me it's just too much like like together and and I would have in fact I did think that the whole battery fire thing was right until I saw your video because your video is like all of a sudden the thing's just going and then it's just gone it's like absolutely gone and what made me think that it was real for sure not only when you when you disclosed when you discovered and you disclosed that Captain Lynn is that his name guy who released it um Lieutenant Commander Lynn the the the leaker yeah n years in got court Marshal went to jail over it like that was with a plea deal nine years with a plea deal can you imagine yeah oh yeah he's like hey you guys they convinced him he's done something wrong right which he he probably admits to after they realize like this might be our technology and then he's thinking he's going to get a slap on the wrist for green when you know um cooperating with the NCIS and the FBI and then they're like okay we're still putting you in prison for nine years and okay we'll shave years a plea deal your sentence cap is in it so is it yeah so he knew that the it it was probably like a a sentence cap of nine years you'd have to look at the record of trial because I'm I'm a retired Jag you'd have to look at the record trial and see what the judge if it was a judge sentence or if it was a panel sentence but anyway he so he would do his pleading he would he do his Providence inquiry he' be found guilty by his own pleading and then that you go into a sentencing phase and everybody would put on the government would put on evidence for why he should be put away forever and then he would put on evidence for why he shouldn't be you know you know dented that hard and then the sentencing Authority whether it was the judge or the panel the jury we call I don't think there was a jury I think it was probably just the judge probably just a judge well then the judge gives you this G you know comes back with a sentence and then he opens the plea agreement and he and he looks and if it you know if it you know if it uh you I mean then he's kind of bound by the plea agreement so got it um he actually argued we looked at the appeals and they had people testify as to what why what he did was so damaging and he actually argued that his sentence was overly harsh compared to people that had similar uh charges which definitely I mean for a charge of willful DET or dissemination of classified information six nine years whatever is that's way more dud actually I I don't think I i' I told I mean I've talked a little bit about this I think in my podcast but I actually uh read remember Manning who was Chelsea man well now Chelsea right but at the time yeah in 2010 in the field theater confinement facility in Kuwait where I was actually there like bringing stuff home I was deployed there and they like they like faxed me the charges and they're like dude you need to read him these charges like right now like we're running into like a a speedy trial issue and I was like all right man give them to me and so I like they they gave him to me I was at the ASG and I walk up to the field theater of confinement facility and Manning's in there I'm in the jail cell with him and he like snaps to attention he like and I was like Hey settle down man I got to read you these charges I need you to soak this in and and I read him it was probably like I don't know 15 different specifications of everything from you know treason to aiding the enemy and all that stuff and that was for the Wikileaks dump of all that classified information that he did when he was at the 10th mountain and uh and so then I read him his charges and I was like you know I I put him with I put him with his stuff and then I went down to the dining facility to get some Chia and the guy on Fox News was reading me back the charges that I just got done reading Manning that's funny yeah so yeah I looked up at I looked at Manning's stuff like I when I looked I you know was trying to find Edward C Lyn I was looking for anyone I didn't even know what I was looking for right I was like a needle on a hay stack and I just thought that I realized early on that the person would have to be it would have to be public record that they can't hide in unless it's a um martial law situation which we not under martial law and I'm like okay so the person has to be out there and it was really really difficult um you know I looked up all the bigname people then I went to Wikipedia where they have lists uh based on if it's like Marines or army or whatever of all the people that have been charged with either like Espionage or will for retention of classified information and I didn't even find anybody on that list and then I was going to give up and this took like about two weeks to do all this then finally I'm like okay I'm going to start searching on time range Google searches right and I just started searching like like 2014 to 2016 and like twoyear gaps and that's where all of a sudden all the Edward C Lin articles came up there's actually no articles after he was sentenced and he was been released there's been nothing after that like after 2016 2017 there's nothing on the internet about him just total media blackout just complete blackout and there was a bunch of Articles at the time but the one were right away I was like what it was like the Strange Case of Lieutenant Commander Edward C Linn and I'm reading it and they're like yeah they tried to get him with Espionage but but there was no evidence he exchange anything from anyone from China and these quotes about this wasn't really a spy case and I'm like well this is getting weird and then when I started seeing signals intelligence all over every single article I'm like oh boy this is the guy like that's when I was just honed in because it's like I had been sitting there talking about Sig and like that's how all these assets are communicating from doing my research into it I I knew nothing about it before then and now it's like crazy how much information I know about our surveillance apparatus that are out there and how the drones and the Spy planes and satellites communicate to one another and then you look into like who he was what his job was like he was actually assigned to the vpu2 this the Wizards this like secret spy plane program that he has like Above Top Secret compartmentalized access information about black budget projects um and that's what I'm like okay this is this guy's already starting to fill the profile compared to like you know the Snowden and the Mannings and stuff like that which were you know much more high-profile cases um but then when I saw I think what I knew for sure was when I saw that the defense argued that the classified information was available on the internet that's when I'm like okay this this is the guy like 100% And we then find out that like he was assigned February 2014 to the vpu2 uh which is right before the plane disappears right and then we've got a literal quote from his lawyer saying that the investigation into him began April 2nd 2014 and the reason why that was so important is that like this was more than I could have ever expected because I in my mind my profile said he recorded that uh that satellite video or whatever on uh a citric session he was logged into probably on his own personal computer and he recorded that with a screen capture right and they were going to catch him because the moment they see that video in the public sphere or maybe they have other ways of surveilling it yeah there's people who can get to it exactly and they're going to figure out right away you know from the fact that it was recorded on quick time they're going to know to use an apple to do it or you know they're going to find out right away and so when I was thinking like when they would start investigating would I thought he would get caught within weeks right and sure enough it's like four weeks later is supposedly when the investigation into him began um so to me that was like dead on you know um in addition to some other weird stuff too like having flight manifest from code names that include search and rescue operations it's like dude that was MH370 like he's definitely definitely tied to the plane going missing and the fact that they ran a sting operation on him the sting operation was really weird um because they did it in 2015 uh in uh August of 2015 which is like over a year later and it's because they had no hard evidence right like they they like okay he leaked these videos but you know they want to get him for Espionage right they were trying to prove that he was trying to share information and give Secrets away but in the end I think he was just a good guy that saw the craziest [ __ ] ever bite on the sting he's like they couldn't get him they got they not really they claimed that he it's it's kind of it's hard to tell like they think they claimed that he told this they basically Honeypot him right and try to get the the FBI woman that I presumably sleeps with him to you know tell her hidden information and maybe she said he said something about ma370 we don't really know but um they couldn't get him for the Espionage stuff in in in the end right and my theory is this is that um and I don't know I don't know if you've read my recent piece probably not cuz I just dropped it earlier today but the question of like what you're saying in terms of it being kind of too complicated the answer there is actually that's something that vexed me for a while too with the whole fire and then reacting within an hour it's not enough time I mean but when that thing just goes poof I'm just like okay wait a minute like if if if it was a prosaic explanation if I never saw that video where the thing just like vanishes like and I'll tell you what I think that is I'll tell you in just a minute we'll talk about the anti-gravity I was working on last week and and and what I think it is but if it wouldn't have poofed right and if it would have it was some prosaic explanation the only thing I would think it had to be the fire thing but I'm going to tell you at least what I think could be an alternative explanation for the glow and then and then I'll tell you what I think happens when you see essentially that just that negative energy like gulp where yep and so real quick I want to say though that um so the thing is I I've moved away from this rescue motive which uh and now it's this Espionage motive where this would have been planned out what weeks in advance right this is too complicated uh of a scenario to just figure out in the drop of a hat like you say okay if the really comes down to was the fire accidental or was it deliberate and in my mind it makes more sense for it to be deliberate because this brings back you need a fire to have them like I don't not necessarily but if you want to force a diversion of the plane to a different location where you are going to set that trap then yeah right because the other thing is where you gonna do you're gonna do it over the South China Sea but South China Sea is really close to China right so the whole point is you're going to do it at a specific location I think okay um and so that's the idea of that you know do you need to have a fire probably not necessarily but if the whole plan is you're trying to send somebody a message then this sends a pretty strong message right and this is what Joseph P frell was was saying a week after the plane with missing which I only heard this recording like two nights ago and I'm sitting there listening to it I'm going this dude nailed it he's like United States Rumor Has they have a super weapon they might have teleported the plane and then he's talking about how this would be to send a message to somebody and I'm sitting there going whoa this is what I've like independently just been talking about for like the last six months seven months feels good doesn't it doesn't it feel good when it's weird for sure yeah when you make you make this call or a prediction or something like that and then down the road six months a year later it's like the puzzle pieces are falling in place and you're like you know I mean like nobody gives you any credit like nobody high fives you or whatever but at least you have that sort of that gratification of like I [ __ ] told you guys no definitely right and then when you heal Ser like that where like he didn't even he would never even have seen the videos right so he's figuring this all out just from deduction and knowing how you know the Deep state if you want to call it that the cover Elite how they operate and he knows that there's Advanced like technology out there and you know he was able to piece it all together the only thing he didn't figure out is you know why would they just put a bomb on the plane if they want to make the plane disappear but the answer is they're not trying to blow the plane up that because yes you would just you have the fire can take care of that right just let the plane crash in the ocean it's game over it was a matter of getting the intellectual property like those people were likely tied to developing that exact technology or some component of it you know I think to your point something we talked about before we went live is that it's just not a matter of like one piece of technology here there it's like how you put it all together right and the the piece of putting it together is like kind of the the hard part right because there's challenges that go along with that as well and putting together is when it becomes super classified when you know one piece or another piece of the science or what have you you know that's the part where you you that's fine to be out there and that's what's out there in our public Z guys it's when you bring it all together that's when the government's like okay we got to knock on your door you're uh getting a little too close right yeah so so I was working on anti-gravity like a couple weeks ago I went to Falcon space labs and we started you know about that and so when when I in May 2021 when the Navy said UFOs are real I thought UFOs I thought they were all fake I thought it was all comic books and you know uh fantasy and science fiction and whatever I just yeah it's never occurred to me I was like ah Tim foil hats you know yeah but then when the Navy said no they're real it's legit I was done I was totally I was like okay there's no question in my mind the Navy said they're real okay I believe them and so then for me as an engineer you know how does it happen right I don't there's no question in my mind do Are UFOs legit the only question is is how do they move like they move and so it was really I just reverse engineered right I was like okay they move instantaneous velocity and and and force equals mass times acceleration right it's like what like Newton's Second Law or something like that so and if you take something and it just instantly accelerates like a bullet right I mean you think about when you're in your car and you hit the gas and you like get kind of pushed back into the seat or whatever well you're just crawling man but something taken off like like instantaneous velocity and I think there's a Dr kth Who who's actually done like calculations on some of the radar data and the forces that it would induce but essentially it's guaranteed even if it was a drone or what have you if that thing isn't massless it crushes itself like a pancake under its own inertia because mathematically something taken off like a rocket from zero to a rocket is exactly the same Force as it would experience if it was going like a rocket and instantaneously stopped like hit a hit a brick wall because we have to have inertial mass reduction right I mean that's the only way you must be massless or you're dead or the or the thing just crushes itself like there's no you know how like things burn up on reentry or whatever it's like a zillion times worse than that right so so it has to be massless and so the next question is like what gives matter mass and I had all these videos queued up and everything if and I can share them with you later um or I'll put them in like a description or something like that but it's all PBS SpaceTime videos that talk about exactly what we need I loveb SP I love it I know dude I love it so that's how I got into this man just a quick side not you watch PBS SpaceTime when they go to like hypernova supporters you will see Bradley Vorhees for last years yeah every month I give him like 100 bucks 200 bucks or something wow that's awesome yeah yeah that's why I figured out about a lot of this stuff and I got even down into this Rabbit Hole like I started looking at double slit experiment and then I started looking at like macroscopic Quantum decoherence and those types of stuff and now that's led to where you know we we're looking at like you said about reverse engineering it like the same is true for me watching the MH370 videos where I'm going holy [ __ ] this is actually real and if so then we can figure it out right it seems impossible like UFOs speeding off at you know super speed but um if it is real then we can figure out how it works I think Thomas conon Brown had that same reaction you did maybe 60 80 years ago where he saw it he was told you know by insiders and in the military that now these UFOs are real and he's going okay crap I got to figure out how they work now right that's exactly what went through my head and so so then I was like okay what gives matter Mass the consensus view is that the higs field is what gives matter Mass it's kind of like honey like moving through honey and people say oh the higs Ban's not heavy enough to give matter it's not the weight of the higs bosan think of it like a rubber band like the weight of a rubber band is nothing compared to the force that it can induce when it stretches and so that's weird I just talked to a guy about that just like it's my podcast with um Martin Gibson I think it's gonna go live tomorrow but he took a um Chinese finger trap and he explained how like when you pull it apart then you can have this this uh kind of kind of uh opposite Force I don't know if it's opposite but you have like force kind of tension yeah tension kind of pulling it in anyway keep going sorry about that yeah no no go ahead what what do you say oh well I'll have to play tomorrow but yeah I mean it goes a little bit over my head but yeah so it's the idea though that it kind of goes back to this whole idea of what the universe is in terms of being like a gauge lattice and that how um you know you can have yeah I think it kind of goes back to the holographic principle although I asked him directly and he didn't um didn't give me a direct answer on that front but um what's the word uh where like you know stuff's kind of permea not permeating through space but uh like I forget the name of it but the the idea though that you have like something kind of uh flowing through space itself uh that could potentially be causing some type of interaction U coextensive yeah yeah so keep yeah so so the higs field gives matter mass and so and we know the Hig field I was watching a Leonard suskin lecture like 12 12 years old or so and it was uh and he said that the higs field is the an Infinite Source in syn it's a condensate for weak hypercharge and the only particle that carries weak hypercharge is the left-handed chyo electron the positron and so the higs field gives matter Mass the positron is stuck to the higs field and that's the reason and if you watch PBS SpaceTime you'll see I will give you the link you'll love it but the reason that the electron isn't moving like a photon is because it's trading a weak hypercharge back and forth with the higs field on infinitely small time scales and that's why it's so much slower but the left-handed electron is stuck to the higs field and if the leftand if the hick field is pulling on the left-handed electron then Newton's thirdd law tells us that the left-hand electron is pushing on the hick field too and so and we know that gravity and the Hig field is the only field that is nonzero in the vacuum right the vacuum expectation value of hi field is 246 gig electron volts so only field that in a total vacuum has a nonzero energy and so my hypothesis is is that the higs field that gives matter mass that the left-hand electron is stuck to the higs fields vacuumation value I don't believe it is 246 galron volts I think it's negative - 246 galron volts which makes the higs field the gravity field and it makes the left-handed electron essentially our our handle for grabbing onto it and so if you take a faraday disc a faraday disc is was invented by Michael Faraday like 200 years ago and it's a copper disc and he spun it and he put a magnet on the side of it and what it did was it shoved electrons to the middle of the disc and it made the the middle of the disc minus and the edge of the disc plus which is like the plus and minus sides of a battery and if you connect that plus and minus side of the of the Faraday disc you create it creates a a circuit creates a voltage and the beautiful thing about a faraday disc is that the magnetic field that is created by that voltage it blows through the surface of the disc and then it comes back around and it comes back underneath the disc so it creates this nice you know kind of beautiful like toroid of magnetic field and then I got some research from um so that so we create a magnetic field like that and then I got some research from 2009 there was uh Dr Lawrence EES from University of notingham and he said that if you if you pass a magnetic field perpendicular through graphine graphine that graphine that hexagonal lattice teases out the left-handed electrons and it catches them in that magnetic field like a bug Catcher And they just sit there in cyclotron orbits so imagine a faraday disc which is circular which is probably why lots of UFOs are Circ or saucer shaped and when you think of like a like a Tic Tac you've got a bunch of saucer You' got a bunch of wheels and kind of two on the other side so you create this big long magnetic field that kind of goes through the whole thing you know it passes up and then you know it gets closed off by another magnet so you have this envelope right anyway bottom line is is that you fill that you charge up that magnetic field and if you pass it through a bunch of graphine it teases out these left-handed electrons that are hanging onto the higs field catches them in that field and if the higs field is negative right now like when you okay so and here so we gotta let's put that to the side now now let's talk about like microwave and food okay so yeah if you if you take a microwave and you put your food in a microwave and you hit cook right it bombards it with microwaves and the microwaves bounce off your food and make your food molecules jiggle and it's the jiggle that is the energy that you're putting into your food that's heat like that's what the energy when you heat your food up when you put energy in your food with a with a microwave oven it's the microwaves bouncing off your food that Jiggles those molecules and those jiggling molecules that's the energy you put into your food to heat it so what we do is and what I was what I built at Falcon space Labs was a faraday disc that would spin you know past this magnetic field through a bunch of layers of graphine and other you know oh by the way you know the magn Bismuth magnesium zinc that you've heard that spacecraft or whatever or UFOs drip it off and made out of guess what that's all hexagonal lattice too bismuth magnesium zinc are all just like graphine they're all hexagonal lates and so which makes sense right you think that any of that's related to superconductivity because I think graphine has been one of the things they say that can produce like room temperature superconductivity under the right uh conditions that may be true but like so when I figured this out I was essentially focused on only the things I needed to like connect okay how do I essentially kill the higs field and so so what I came up with was create a magnetic field pass it through graphing catch all these left-handed electrons that are holding on to the higs field and if I'm right that the higs field is negative and then if I take essentially take a signal generator pass it through a car stereo amp to jack up the wattage and then shove all this this um harmonic electric signal through the disc to essentially microwave all of those left-handed electrons the same way that you microwave your food right so if I catch all those left-handed electrons that are holding on to the higs field and then I turn my signal generator on and shake the [ __ ] out of all those Electro electrons right and if I can jiggle 246 gig electron volts into the higs field if it's negative - 246 if I can jiggle posit 246 in there I can cancel it drop it to zero and then the Hig Field's at the ground state and then the Hig field can't give the matter in that field any Mass right because if the higs field energy level is zero I think it's negative - 246 so if I can catch all these left-handed electrons and then Shake 246 gig electron volts into them then the the field value goes to zero and then everything in that field has to be massless that is the theory behind anti-gravity and have you seen salvator P's patents yes yeah because I think that especially talk to that guy I wish somebody would put me in the same room with that guy because he calls it hyper cavitation and I don't think it's hyper cavitation but I think it's the harmonic signal that he's thinking is shaking but it's not I don't think it's I think it's a different mode I think it's a different mechanism but I think he's I think he's seen it I think he's actually seen it he's seen it let's be let's beon he hasn't told me but when you write a like I saw him on I saw him on toe with Kurt man and the guy was slipping out I'm like dude I can tell that's a guy who's trying not to tell everybody that he's seen it but he's seen you know what I mean no when I talked to him twice on my own podcast that was exactly what I concluded as well which you I don't want to get him in trouble or anything like that he didn't tell me that he's seen it but yes when you make those pads not something you just come up with like you've seen it right yeah yeah I'm I'm dying to talk man if you could put me in touch with that guy I'd love to have a conv unforunately now I think he's been uh I don't think I'll put him get in trouble here but he hasn't been let's say given permission to talk to anybody else since I mean I think he spoke to Kurt he spoke to me he was on Jeremy Reese's show uh he did Project Unity and I think there might be one more but that was like pretty much it and then he got told which to me even adds more credibility and weight to the claims right if he's out there spewing disinfo or something like that they wouldn't silence him you know well he doesn't even need to tell me anything I want to tell him what I'm working on and he can just sit there and because he's a guy who's works for the Navy and part of the reason that I applied to that Arrow job I don't know you see it Ross Kart's like hey if anybody wants this job I apply to it I'll tell you that's funny but anyway like like he's a guy who's working with people and we talked about like well so anyway so um so anyway so you create that magnetic field you feel full left-hand electrons and you shake them but you know when when I I built my motor or I built my device or whatever and I I started doing it then the coils in my motor started to melt and it just like completely started to break down and so I didn't really didn't really get to do any great measurements or anything like that so I'm kind of back to the drawing board and this is what we talked about that you hinted to is that that knowing the theory and understanding how it works if I'm right right is is a completely different skill set from actually building it you know what I mean and so like that's what I'm focused on or that's what I was focused on was building it and I'll build another one but I did apply to that Arrow job because if I can direct the contracts then I can say hey northr Grumman hey uh you know Lockheed Martin I want you to build me this show me this this is I can Speck it out and say hey build this for me but um but so but the the crazy thing is if it works like I think it does and if if the if the field is full of these left hand electrons and you shake it bring the H to the ground state then you have what I call a masshole right you have the universe knows from Quantum fluctuations knows that there's no ma it feels like there's no Mass there so it's it's it's working overtime to shove Mass into the mass right because nature abhor a vacuum and so if that's true then you have a situation where you have a massless craft surrounded by gravity surrounded by or essentially this masslessness where the universe is pushing equally on all sides trying to get mass in there now so the way UFO propulsion works right say you have directional microwave emitters inside your craft and if you take a close look at those orbs that are going around in your mh37 video you'll see this wherever you want to go if you want to drive your UFO somewhere yeah yeah you just fire from inside now imagine instead of just a solid disc imagine a hoop okay imagine a hoop this way and a hoop this way so the inside there's no field on the inside it's just an envelope around you well now now you're inside that envelope and that's where like you're working all the controls right you got the stick and the gas and your throttle and everything and so when you turn on directional microwaves from inside that craft and you shoot directional microwaves through that massless uh field you're manipulating the quantum vacuum right so so the universe is pushing super hard all around you trying to push matter into that mass hole and if you release microwaves like out the front the universe is going to go hey there's a little something here in the front so we don't have to push so hard on the front and so you create essentially a a diff you manipulate the quantum vacuum so that there's less Force pushing towards you in the front because you're blowing microwaves out the front and now you have a a greater differential force in the back and so you go forward so you fly around on a tractor beam essentially wherever you point these microwaves and you're following essentially the beam that you're that you're uh you know that you're that you're that you're emitting you want to go up you just emit microwaves out the top and then you you fly up and if you look really close at one of those videos you did the uh share thermal one I think yeah you can see the lines in front is that what you're talking about where you see the lines in front that's exactly how they Ste that's exactly how they fly that's exactly it that's exactly it I'm telling you and if you look if you look close at that video if you look close at that video you'll see they are flying exactly towards the direction that they're emitting the those that that they're that they're emitting that you know and it and it looks like negative energy and I did a podcast episode called um predicting Quantum Echoes of a future past or something like that and I talked about the reason that it looks negative is because you got conservation of mass energy right in the universe you can't add energy to the universe but if you're one of these craft and I we'll talk in a minute about what a Quantum Echo is but if Quanto is throwing microwaves out of essentially it's throwing it into the past and I'll tell you why in a second the universe is going to go oh no we can't have that like we can't have like extra energy and so it's G to essentially create gravity to compensate to to uh cancel that so okay so if anti-gravity works the way I think it does right so kind of a big if but not really if anti-gravity works the way I think it does you create this Mass hole right well that energy of your mass e equal mc^2 the mass time c^2 is there it's in our universe it's right here and it you can't violate conservation of mass energy so the only thing and this only works if we live in a holographic universe and if time is resolution pixel resolution on the Hologram so anyway if you create that mass hole that Mass that energy has to go somewhere I think it goes into the past and I I can we can talk a different episode why I think that is but essentially there's there's one view of sort of the mathematics that we're actually moving through time at the speed of light too and so if if the higs field is what connects matter or connects energy to this instance of time and when you create this Mass hole essentially you leave your mass into the past you leave your mass in time it like you drop it and you you race away from it at the speed of light well here's the thing that mass has to go somewhere and if it goes into the past then it can only go exactly as far back as the energy as the tension in the higs field because it's still quantumly entangled right like it's still you know still quantumly entangled to your massless particles in the present and so but the mask can only go as far back in time as it takes to totally cancel it from the tension in the higs field so it it's like it can only go back so far because when the gravity across what we call an ER Wormhole that in that Wormhole the tension between this moment in time like it's like you know when you hit your gas in the car and you you take up there's something called time dilation you're actually part of your body's like slowing down in time well when you go completely massless that's gonna you D that time dilates your mass goes into the past and so and it's going to go exactly as long as it takes for the gravity to cancel it and it won't go further because that would be more gravity and so it would be taking away be more negative energy in someplace and you know and it can't go it can't go less than that right because then you still have positive energy that's not totally canceled and so it can only go exactly as far as that gravity takes to cancel it and that's why it holds open a wormhole is because the negative energy density which is the gravity wrapping a massless something that's massless is the exact recipe in ER for a wormhole and in ER if you look it's only five pages it says Einstein says two sheets two identical essentially space-time Sheets if it's a holographic Universe we're talking about essentially you could take you could take so the the state of the universe is the surface of a black hole at any moment and if you peel that surface of the black hole off the energy like and hang it like a sheet that's the state of the universe in that instance well you could peel off every instance all the way to the beginning of time and now the distance across those those sheets of time is Tim likee right because it's like chopping the frames out of a movie reel right like the beginning of the movie to the end of the movie and so and so somewhere we're in the middle of the movie right here and when we eject our Mass it goes somewhere back here and it goes goes as as far back as it takes to cancel it well now you have masslessness wrapped in negative energy density which is Einstein's recipe for Wormhole which he says two sheets it becomes pointlike where it's like and so and that's that's what I think of the ER Wormhole is yeah every every point in the universe is actually connected we just don't perceive it right like that's the situation I mean if the universe is a hologram then everything that is a trillion miles away is right in front of your face you just can't see it because it's a a res olution that your that your Consciousness is in tune to biology is set for it yeah but that makes things like remote viewing if you could tune your Consciousness to a different pixel resolution then you could see something 100 miles away because because the Hologram is right in front of your face no matter what right I mean if if we live in a holographic universe and blah you know I mean so well I think we do I think that there's two things that we need uh one of them is the one you just mentioned which is that we have to understand that it's a holographic Universe I call it like the Matrix other people call it the ether counter space whatever you want but there's an underlying framework to our reality that we don't perceive right and that there would be some levels of like if you think of a computer program like a base level of code like an operating system that's wrting on top of it you know and then the other thing I think we understand is mean that's what Juan Mal desna and string theory was born about like it's like this is not the the holographic Universe it's not mainstream but it is definitely not a fringe Concept in physics and I have the video which uh yeah it's not maybe 10 years ago it would have been but yeah not anymore I think it's getting more and more mainstream yeah 1997 I think Juan Mal desen I think he like won the Nobel Prize or something for it you know I mean I think he's a genius honestly I mean I I was funny because I was talking to Brian kein on Twitter going back and forth and he goes oh I I interviewed one micina because I said you know what do you think about ER equals epr and uh and Leonard susin I personally I think I I love their theories and that's why I just interviewed Martin Gibson because he has his own unification Theory I think there's half dozen or more that are out there and I don't know the truth is somewhere in there right but conceptually I love the ER equals epr what I would kind of ask you maybe we have a minor debate over it is um sure the thing I I'm not sure about is whether or not you can go to the Past right and if we can break primitive causality I think of time dilation as like the universal corrector the way I perceive it is that um I think a good thought experiment somebody posted is let's say you want to travel somewhere that's 5,000 light years away okay and one Lighty year is exactly how far it takes light to travel one you know one year or how far it goes in one year so if we go back if we go somewhere that's 5,000 light years away and we look back at the Earth and we travel there instantaneously people ask will you'll experience it instantaneous the pilot will but everybody else will see see you go take a year 5,000 years or whatever to get there exactly so that's the question right is that if you have because people ask well if I if I instantaneously transported somewhere that's 5,000 light years away and I looked back at the earth when I see the pyramids being built and my answer was no because when you show up from your perspective you'll show up there instantly but from The Outsiders perspective it's going to look like you showed up 5,000 years in the future and to me that's time dilation correcting itself to make sure that you cannot break causality because otherwise if I could instantly transport somewhere else and look back into the past I would now have information about something that I could then change because I could instantly transport back and I could tell people oh yes you know here's what happened uh po in the past or and then those people could then uh well I don't know that's the part I kind of struggle with mentally so I guess that's my question to you is do you think that we can travel the past do you think we can change the past and if so how do you think that would play out so okay now a lot of people might not agree with me but so I don't think I don't think there's such thing as free will I think that there's no grandfather Paradox because you didn't go back and kill your grandfather Yeah okay and so have you seen the show dark by the way on Netflix okay so the show dark basically like it does that it's this German show where he goes back in time but he can't change the past because whatever he went back that has already happened right so he sees himself in the future of the past but it's kind of like you know it's a paradox where it's like he can't change anything whatever he did he always did and so even if he goes to again like he'll always end up even if he knows what's gonna happen he knows he's gonna end up having to do that no matter what right like it does bring the question of do you have free will or not so go ahead see because I think I think well well and you'll see like and I'll tell you I'm kind of locked into this right because I think and this is what I told Arrow when I on my cover letter which if you want me to I'll read it to you it's kind of a hoot but but essentially I told him that I think the reason that we have so many UAP showing up in our Navy's Flight Training areas is because it's our [ __ ] Navy in the future that we're seeing through these ER wormholes and so that's why they're there and so and I'm stuck with that right because in in my view like the if the if the Wormhole goes and and here's how we be here's how we can travel Interstellar and not need to become nomadic is because if I'm right that when we spin up our Mass hole and our Quantum Echo goes into the past 50 years then we could actually take another craft a massless craft because if you put energy into a wormhole it will close it you can't put energy into a wormhole but you could spin up a mass craft that is you know that's that's massless and fly it through that Wormhole you can and you'll see there are actually videos of UFOs where like the UFO's there and then like UFOs start coming out of it like yeah I've seen those I've seen those and so if a UFO spins up it becomes massless and another guy flies through it and comes out 50 years into the past that's 25 light years of range out and 25 years back so you can be home in time for dinner even though you just like in a blink went 25 Lighty years out checked out some world or whatever and then zipped back you could still get back in time you know you know to have you know dinner with your kids or whatever and and and and it wouldn't you wouldn't have to become nomadic you you would be if it's true that that's the way it works but that means that whatever happens in the future has already happened and time exists all at once yeah and so you could actually go back to Elementary School go back in time and walk into your Elementary School class and highfive yourself and then but as a kid somebody you would experience somebody high-fiving yourself but it would be you you wouldn't probably know that but you could actually do that and like you could actually and and the way I think of that is kind of like a you know like when you're rowing a boat imagine you're rowing a boat and time is the river you can row a boat and when you put that ore in you pull back and you look down there's like a little Eddy right little time Eddies can happen and so where where something you know goes back in time and forward in time and back in time and forward in time and that could be like the note that you write yourself that says hey why don't you study Physics from the future you give it to the past and if you actually if if you if you keep using that note you know I mean like you I anyway bottom line is there's a there's like a story that's like well where did the note come from if you know but I think there Eddies that can happen in time like that um but I do think there's no free will I do think everything is set um and I think I have to think that way if I think that the UFOs and UAP that they're showing up in our flight training areas is our future Navy or is our future Air Force zipping around you're all in on the future human hypothesis then with the UF well I think that the UF the UAP and UFOs that are zipping around in our Navy's Flight Training areas I think they are our future Navy so I think those ones yeah probably our future Navy that's that' be wild but that would actually be consistent with Aro came out with right where they're saying it's not extraterrestrial that we're seeing it's like exactly right it's it's almost darker you know and that's one thing I've always said about the UFO phenomenon is that I think it's going to be darker than anyone's willing to accept and when I started seeing the MH370 videos I I was like okay yeah this is dark enough that I think that no people G have a hard time accept and they didn't I mean I just both sides of the UFO Community hate me the ones that actually believe in UFOs and the ones that uh you know think that it's all fake right which is kind of funny because that that actually supports the idea in my opinion that must be on to something because I don't think it's gonna be as clean as people want it to be if everybody hates you you're probably pretty close because nobody's usually happy with reality right exactly you got it but here's the one thing that I did want to float so so if if if you ever hit um Sonic hyen gravity. us that's where my podcast is I did an episode a couple years ago called the madman's curse and the cover art on that episode is the hin lights and and and what I and what it shows is there's like there's like a UFO that's like constantly going around in like hin I don't know if it's like Norway or Finland or something anyway wherever that wherever it is in hin there's a UFO that's always zipping around and somebody pointed a spectrometer at it and if you look at the spectrometer reading that it that it that it put through I went and found a spectrometer reading for daylight and it matches it matches the spectrometer reading of daylight and so whenever I see a UFO or whenever I see like something that's you know you know possibly a UFO right there's either a bright light like it's at night and it's a bright light or sometime and so I think I think that's we're seeing that UFO through a wormhole and it's daylight on the other side of the Wormhole sometimes you'll see it and it's red and I think it's because it's sunset or sunrise on the other side on the on the on the uh other side of the Wormhole now you see what I'm going with the fire yeah I guess I if those Quantum echos of those orbs if they're Quantum echos which I think they are because because the directional you know I'm calling them microwaves but I don't know what it actually is um if it was sunset or sunrise on the other side then those things would be glowing red and I wonder whether that might be what the people on the ground mistook for fire possibly um and so uh and so and but it also it's also consistent with I don't know if you heard recently there were Ukrainian scientists that were saying they were seeing UFOs and they were saying they were calling them Phantoms well that happens when it's nighttime on the other side when it's nighttime on the other side of the Wormhole I think that's what you get you get those Phantoms those Shadows yes thinking of in terms of like literally looking through like a portal where you're looking onto the other side and now you're seeing the environment on the other side through the well there's light light right like I don't know if you could see because you know because gravity you know it it it it kind of it bends light you know because gravity bends space and light travels through space so it gets lens and everything and so I don't I don't I don't know that you could I don't know that you can see the environment through but certainly the light like kind kind of a blur right like you that's what you'd get and I think in a lot of ways that that's probably why most UFOs are blurry right I mean probably so what do you think about uh retrocausality you know so do you think that the Mandela the Mandela effect could be real like uh the idea that oh you don't Mandela effect oh yeah sure this is gonna be fun so you're familiar with the brand Fruit of the Loom right yeah yeah so Underpants you mean yeah yeah yeah do you ever remember you know their logo just imagine their logo right now does the logo have a cornucopia in it when you imagine it the the logo Fruit of the Loom which is some fruit or whatever some I don't remember so okay well so Mandela effect is the idea that we can retroactively change the past but when we do like we we like it changes our like our it doesn't quite change all our memories so that stuff like seems like it always was I think the most common ones are that people are that the Fruit of the Loom brand logo used to have a cornucopia on it they are people adamantly argue they remember it I actually even remember which is weird from being a kid but there never was a cornucopia on the brand or that Sketchers was spelled with a K but there's no I think I think that's one of the ones I may be saying this incorrectly so it's the idea that if we can impact the past that when we do so it creates this retrocausality where now that's what always happened right and that maybe there's some subconscious level where it doesn't get changed right so we still have these memories that were like basically false memories now because the past has been altered without us even perceiving it um because we don't see the past being altered so I'm curious about your thoughts on that versus like you know multi- timelines and multi- universes right because that would be the other thing is that you create like a splinter Universe if you change the past right so I think you said that like whatever happened is always happen so that's the reason why I brought the Mandela effect in this universe in this hologram yeah yeah yeah okay well now we're really kind of going into my theory of everything right and so yeah sure so I think that the universe is our universe is the 2D holographic surface of the black hole and when we look up at the cosmic microwave background what we're looking at is the inside of the black hole where like we are and our Consciousness sits on the surface of the 2D holographic surface of the black hole and that's where we get our information from and so and I have like this other podcast on if you're into this if you're really into this I have I have um a couple podcasts about um Consciousness and how you actually slow the flow of time with your Consciousness and the way that the reason that works like that is because if we're on the the 2D holographic surface of a black hole Hawking proved that the energy on the surface of a black hole is uniform and finite right and and that um you know perturbations in the like that was the word I was looking for earlier by the way pertubations oh okay yeah go ahead yes so so pertubations in SpaceTime around the black hole the energy from that has to come from the black hole and that's why the black hole evaporates um short you know kind of condensed version so to speak Hawking radiation yeah Hawking radiation and Hawking radiation is black body radi which is heat okay and so I think our energy on the surface of this black hole when we die bodies actually get extremely cold like if if it's like say it's like 98 degrees outside 98.6 degrees outside when you die did you know you actually get colder than 98.6 degre you do I did not know that and you'd think that if you were just matter in space and you were 98.6 and it was 98.6 degrees outside you just kind of stay the same right because there's nothing there but you get colder and so I think so we're on our Consciousness is on the surface of this black hole and when we die I think our Consciousness leaves the surface of the black hole is hawking radiation and that's why like our physical bodies get colders because actually a lot of our energy departs but um but to answer your question so when um when we're awake right when our Consciousness is awake since the energy all comes from the surface of the black hole like Hawkings said our Consciousness is actually fighting for the energy on the surface of the black hole and I think that SpaceTime is blowing out of black holes in all directions and that's what causes Universal expansion and actually um I think that neutrinos that are always blasting through us right are the marker for SpaceTime and so since we're on the surface of the black hole and we're moving through time we're not actually moving anywhere because we're on the surface of this black hole but space time's blowing through us and it's SpaceTime blowing through the surface of the black hole that changes the black hole and which is what we notice as the passage of time and the experiments that we can do to prove this if Consciousness indeed and if you look this stuff up like you will see that it it like what we've observed and everything totally supports this is that when your when your Consciousness is active right you're actually you slow time because your Consciousness has taken energy that SpaceTime needs to move the Hologram which is why when you fall asleep time moves faster right and when you're awake time moves slower because and you know like the six hours when you're awake moves way slower than six six hours when you're asleep right and so and if you look at hummingbirds if if there's a metric for sucking the energy off the surface of the black hole and that's energy that time can't use to move the the the Hologram humans have like 54 million neurons per gram of brain matter hummingbird has like 240 million neurons per gram and so the hummingbird when it's conscious takes more energy off the surface of the black hole that time doesn't have because time can't use it because the conscious hummingbird is soaking up so much more energy density and so that's why hummingbirds move so [ __ ] fast is because their the the CL the their clock can't tick as fast and so they're doing more action between ticks of the clock humans do and so and it's crazy because when a hummingbird is conscious its heart beats 20 times a second like that's a fact like it heart beats 20 times per second but when it sleeps its heart beats like just like humans one time a second when it's when it's not taken not when it's beating its wings but when it's awake its heart beats 20 times a second and and the way that we could actually prove this is if we surgically sort of implant a clock in like a hummingbird or even inside us and actually if you look up yeah if you dations yeah if you if you if you look in in biomedical journals and stuff you'll see that there's a calibration problem where if you insert a device that requires timing if you surgically insert it into a human that device speeds up and that's why is because because you're when you're conscious I mean if it's inside you right if you're conscious that you you it slows the flow of time because the Hologram has or or the surface of black hole time has less energy to move the Hologram and so and there are tons of people Carl VI is a friend of mine he lost 400 pounds with diet but mostly like meditation and so and I told him I said man if you're activating tons of more nerves and pulling more energy off the surface of the black hole dude you're G to you're G to you're going to jack up your metabolism you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna move faster you know relative to I mean anyway and you can look it up I did a podcast on it called you know you're preaching the choir over here I uh you should check out uh Roy de Herbert dilation theory for sure or maybe I podcast with him because yeah this is I mean he looks at from a theoretical physicist perspective but basically says the same thing I think you guys are saying the same things although it's just the wording is a little bit different because he would say that time is Flowing faster for the hummingbird or for a fly or for an ants and that's the reason why they seem like they're moving so quickly whereas if you were to scale them up they you would think they're moving at like warp speeds but the reality is just because they have less Mass their time is Flowing faster than what our time is flowing and so yeah I can explain why the humming bird's wings flap so fast why the little fly seems like it can move around so quickly is that the flow of time is is working differently for them than it is working for larger things and that's an interesting unification Theory too because of what if you look at a black hole has a huge amount of mass right and now that black hole your time is going to slow down and if you're near the black hole looking out it's going to look like everybody else is moving at super speed and those people that are looking at you near the black hole is going to look like you're moving in slow motion right um but from your both your own frame of perspective it's going to look like you're moving at normal speed right so it's pretty damn weird you know when you think about I think time dilation is is nuts I didn't even know about time dilation until I watched the movie Interstellar and I I went back home and I Googled it and I'm like wait is this real and you're like yep they sent clocks out in outer space and they get out of syn and you're like what right it's crazy totally totally actually I have this crazy theory for black hole Genesis too I don't think it's Mass actually because if you if you take a star right that starts out the energy of that star if you start subtracting out everything that happens like you subtract out the amount of the Nova of the brightness of the explosion you take that energy out if you take all the the stard dust out you know you subtract out the Stardust and then if you uh and and sub and then when one what you're left over with isn't enough Mass to be the black hole that it is it's not and so because if you take the total energy of the star and you tracked out all the stuff that we know happens in a supernova you're not left over with enough Mass to be a black hole and so what I think happens is it's like an ice skater now Einstein said that when something goes if something goes faster than the speed of light it goes back in time and so if you take a star and it you know builds you know hydrogen and you know then helium and whatever and they think that it when it gets to iron or whatever it starts to be endothermic and then it collapses I don't think that's what happens but but anyway but bottom line is is when the star collapses right it has a certain amount of uh rotational energy called moment of inertia and the moment of inertia when it's big has to stay equal to the moment of inertia when it collapses and that looks like an ice skater when she jumps up in the air with her arms out when she pulls them in she spins up really fast yeah it's like a neutron star too right yeah well when a star collapses it spins up like a light speed axle yep and if it's big enough it spins it goes faster than time and I do the math it's on I have a kind of an anemic YouTube page where I put my theory of everything on there and I did there's one black hole Genesis um it's like five minutes the five minute math on it and you can calculate if you have an initial rotation you can calculate the radius at which to conserve the moment of inertia you can calculate the radius at which it would have to spin faster than light and so and I did I did the math for V canis majoras like on during the thing it's just napkin math it's really easy and it it comes out to almost the same Schwarz child radius which is the radius under I think the misimpression that a black hole is a big ball of mass but but essentially and it and it shows that a black hole is actually a dut and if you look at the The Event Horizon telescope and this and then the Event Horizon telescope after I you know I did this and then the Event Horizon telescope showed us what um m87 which is a black hole looks like and it's a doughnut dude and they think that they think the black hole they think it's a hole in the middle that's not dude that's empty space it's a donut and and we also they they showed us um Sagittarius AAR which is the black hole in the middle of our galaxy you know what the real image is the unadulterated unchanged image it's an ellipse because it's a donut from the side but then they went in and monkeyed with it and they did all this like you know we think it's scattering and whatever and they kind of assume their conclusion that there was a black hole like in the middle of it or whatever but the actual image of it is like a big orange ellipse just like m87 is a big orange donut and so so I think the black holes are donuts and they're creatures of spin super luminal Spin and when it when something spins super luminal I think what happens is Einstein says it goes back in time and I think what happens is it essentially rips out a time it goes back in time but like it goes back in time but it can't go like just a day back because it would add energy back to that day right so it has to go back before the beginning of time it Go and it carries the space that's inside the core of that star back before the beginning of time and it big bangs into another universe and that's where the space inflates is is the space that's inside the core of that star when it rips out and goes back in time goes back before the beginning of time and then it big bangs and the space that the core that star brings back with it is what's inflating and that's so what do you think about the Big Bang do you think the Big Bang we need the Big Bang Theory in order for Universe yeah I think I think when a star collapses it spins faster than light it goes back in time I think it goes back to before the beginning of time and then you have there's just nothing there's just like space and nothing and that's when the weak nuclear force just rips everything just totally renss every single thing and you know blows up and and the space inflates and that becomes our new universe and that's why the surface of every black hole is a universe it's a universe inside that's why so when we die and this goes back now finally right I'm getting back to answering your question about why do I think some people think the Fruit of the Loom has a cornucopia and some people think it doesn't is because when we die I think our Consciousness leaves the surface of this black hole and goes to the surface of the black hole that circumscribes our black hole and when our energy when our heat hits the surface of that black hole and coales us together I think that's when we're born in that universe and I think that's ultimately going to be heaven right on at some point um but I think it's plausible that we exist and the mult so the Multiverse is black holes inside black holes inside black holes and the DNA of the universe is essentially the same but I think I think there could be some VI some variations that change and if I had to put my finger on a variation that was different between the universe we were in before which was inside the universe inside the universe inside and the universe we're in now is that maybe in in the universe we were in before there was a cornucopia oh going back to the Mandel bringing it all the way back a cornicopia in that Universe yeah that's that's a interesting thought um I mean and and then and then you know then uh what's it called dja Vu yeah yeah makes a lot more sense yeah and someone was mentioning in the chat too the idea that when you sleep you know their time speeds up someone was actually saying the same thing you were right before you said it in the chat which I thought was pretty interesting it was Merlin who's bringing that thought up um I don't really love the Big Bang Theory in general but I don't disagree with anything that you just said either at the same time uh and and I think it's really just matter like perception uh for the most part what is your thoughts on like are do you become more spiritual the more you learn about science I guess would be my first question oh God yeah isn't that weird like I would have before I dug into all this I would have thought it was going be the opposite because I had been kind of brainwashed with this idea that it's the religious people holding back you know ufology or what have you because they think it might be demons or whatever but um first of all I think that people's perception of what the nature of the phenomenon is is of course going to be a little bit esoteric because we might be talking about future humans we could be talking about whatever I don't know we are not really sure but the thing that was interesting to me is that it's there is this religious connection where you get in my opinion more spiritual the more you learn about it because when you learn that magic is real now you need like some you know higher level understanding but if there is a holographic principle then that would imply that our universe is a construct right and that if there's a construct there must be a Creator who created that construct so I was surprised to find that um the religious perspective and persuasion of humanity I don't think has any problem with any of this science and technology and that it'll get incorporated into that worldview much easier than the people that you know think there's nothing special about the world right well you know the like if you Google like what the Vatican says about aliens like from years and years ago they've been saying that no aliens are pretty consistent with uh you know you know it's a big universe you know God made it all you know what I mean and so but I think I I I definitely think well here here so this here's this kind of in a nutshell so and I just did a podcast called alien logic right which is I think that in sufficiently earthlike environment right we would evolve right because we're here right that like you take it all the way back to its just core principles right like you know there's something called the stationary action principle and what that says is is that you know you know nature will minimize the action um and essentially energy follows the laws of physics right and so what goes up must come come down you know you can paraphrase it and and you can the bottom line is is that that nothing's really an accident like everything happens because energy follows the laws of physics and given enough time a sufficiently earthlike environment we happen we just do because we're here and so if that's true you know and there's all kinds of examples of like what they call convergent evolution where crabs evolve from you know different species in different places in on the Earth and and the whole idea is that in sufficiently similar conditions you know the same things are going to happen and so when we're only a like a four or five billion we a five billion year old 4.5 billion year old uh planet right in a 14 or 15 billion year old Universe a sufficiently earthlike environment that happened you know 10 billion years ago right is going to have humans right and if it only takes time for the Apex species on a planet to go and I did a podcast episode called the the real prime directive where this kind of just hit me but it in a sufficiently earthlike environment that happened you know 10 billion years ago you got humans that are going to be billions of years bet more evolved and if it only takes time to go Interstellar and if anti-gravity certainly if anti-gravity works the way I think it does we're pretty close to going Interstellar now we could be then then especially if we' sto shooting at each other and we just like got to it you know um then then you have a scenario where what would we do what would you do Ashton if you all of a sudden were Interstellar what would you do yeah no it's a good question I think the one what would you do what would you do well so I talk about it all the time I kind of have to set it up a little bit but first of all the the crab thing is really weird I read about that like yesterday or two days ago that crabs have independently evolved into that shape multiple times right like Earth a 3D crab printer but here's the question I think I would I would answer your thing like this your question like this is that I've wondered often if we can change the past what would I what would I tell myself what would I do if I can if future me could impact my current life or my past life right or the other way I look at it is if you could pick any time to live in what time would you choose to live in I and I think about that question I I would say the scary answer is I would probably choose to live whenever the world and the universe ended right because I want to see the end of everything right if you were to take time and all time and look look at like a string when would you choose to live in probably the beginning or the end and probably the end because we'd be more advanced at that part I want to see the cool stuff right but the other part too is I wonder like what would I do if I could change the past would I overtly just give myself the answer to the lottery numbers or would I do something more Less Direct right and that's what I don't really have an answer for you in general because because I I'm not sure like I think I would do something stealthy where I wouldn't even recognize that I was doing it right and the thing that scares me about that a little bit and creeps me out and I think of this pretty frequently nowadays is like I look at what my life has been doing the last six months and just how do you know that you haven't exactly that's the question how do I know that I haven't right I look at it I go wow like the people that I've been able to talk to the connections that I've made in the last six months nothing that I would have ever anticipated in my life my my life has taken just a complete different trajectory since MH370 videos and everything else and I think the future trajectory of it is even crazier honestly I don't know what what there is planned so um yeah but I have high hopes and that's the thing is that I go wow maybe we really can change the past maybe future me already has and change the trajectory of my life now you know it's hard to say I I really don't know but that's what I love about these questions is that I don't know the answer to that like I know the answers to the MH370 stuff because I've been investing inating it and like I've seen the evidence and of course I don't know the inner workings of how all the super advanced technology works but I'm I'm trying to catch up to that to get on like your level and other people's levels that I well don't say My Level like I'm I mean you're pretty impressive man pretty impressive um but at the same time like you know I think there's still even knowing as much about okay that there's probably a breakaway civilization that's the military-- industrial complex knowing that there's uh that we are capable of conspiracies that will break people's mind you know that the government is a lot darker than I would have imagined even knowing all that there's still so much more that is just I want to know the answers to like what is the nature of our planet like are we a prison planet is it the future human situation going on like what is so dark you want me to tell you what they' gotta hide this right yeah absolutely all right so if we agree that it only takes time for humans or any species any Apex species it only takes time for them to go Interstellar right and so that was sort of the Epiphany I had in a a podcast I did called the real prime directive and what that to me what that meant was if you look back in the fossil record right there's this nice laminer evolution of dinosaurs where it's they went from goo and then you know tadpoles or whatever and then they became dinosaurs and then 65 million years ago everything gets zorch and mammals come out of nowhere okay so the what I was trying to provoke from you is what would we do if we became Interstellar we would go colonize other worlds yeah and we would essentially you know Elon mus talks about needing to become an intercell or an interner planetary species colonizing Mars all that kind of stuff but but what we would do is we would colonize other worlds and so and that's what I think happened here I think Interstellar human humans found an exoplanet Earth um accelerated its rotation um to create a magnetic field that would you know protect our atmosphere and whatever and then they planted us here um and there's I have lots of podcasts about like actually you know the the the pyramids Drexler university did a study it's National Science funded from 2008 and they showed that the the pyramids were made of concrete concrete that's more advanced than the concrete we have today and so what that tells me is that you know they kind of put us some starter structures you know for us to you know to kind of get after there's a whole bunch of reasons that I did two podcast episodes recently called alien logic and that's what they're about they're about like how we know that we are actually a colony of interstellar humans and I think and the real prime directive which I actually came to earlier was kind of darker because in any sufficiently earthlike Planet not hit essentially terraformed with a meteor and with Dinosaurs wiped out any sufficiently earthlike Planet will grow dinosaurs first which means in any Planet not hit by a meteor I think the tradon which is a velociraptor big brain opposable thumb goes Interstellar first the reptilians guys they're real confirmed here Brad's confirmed the reptilians so but then like you know and but any species that becomes Apex on a particular Planet given enough time they could go Interstellar so you have like what what's the contact or the inter you know the one where um anyway like the octopuses could be octop who knows yeah Ral or or insects who knows you know just kind of just depends yeah District n yeah there they have a movie for every single one I think at this point yeah so I mean at the end of the day like it's and it's it's plausible and this is where I sort of started kind of trying to freak out a little bit because or not really freak out but in my head I was just like wow that's really crazy was there might be a prime directive like a real prime directive yeah like treaty which could be a treaty that says hey we're not going to put our thumbs on the scale and and we're going to let everything the chips fall where they may and you know we're just going to we're going to see whoever you know whichever species yeah and so we could be coming you know and the national ignition facility um very recently just you know achieved Fusion if anti-gravity works like I think it does then we've got Interstellar travel we've got time travel and so we might actually be getting invited to the Federation you know at some point Galactic Federation are you a believer in in the Galactic Federation uh stuff well I mean after I sort of independently figured it out in that episode the real Prime directive yeah I mean I think it's possible yeah I think it's I think it's likely right like well like to your point I think that the idea that this technology I think that what people to realize is the difference between an invention and a discovery right is that a discovery is inevitable it's just a matter of when people are going to figure it out so to your point of the prime directive it's like if uh you know Quantum field Theory unification theories which I think open the pandor box for anti-gravity and everything else including portable C Fusion you know Etc free energy is uh a discovery then I could see there being a prime directive where it's like it's time is Just an Illusion anyway so why would you even need a tip of scales it's like a question of okay let's just see which races have the level of Consciousness required to not destroy themselves because what comes along with all those positive things like free energy uh maybe medical healing stuff like that is also potential weapons right and I personally the belief that if uh the firmy Paradox is is true and that we can't see any other species which I'm not 100% convinced of but if there is nothing else out there we see then I think the big concern is is there a discovery that's so big that most civilizations wipe themselves out and I look around in our planet how divided we are and I think back to this weird letter that I got that said that this type of technology that we see in the videos that we're kind of talking about now uh that any two Waring factions that got access to it game over right someone's going to destroy the whole planet because this is not just shooting a nuclear weapon at people I watched this video on Twitter you've probably seen it like the last couple days where they they show what our reaction to Russia would be and we're shooting all these nukes down on them over and over and over again I'm sitting here going uh no I think we just press one button and goodbye whole planet right that's the real the whole the real risk in my mind and that's what I think would end our civilization uh before anything else nuclear weapons or or what have you but that's just my opin any species that made it to any future humans that made it they would know what technologies unify us right they would because they made it they would know what could save us and that brings us full circle back to what I think MH370 is all about so imagine this we we if the humans who put us here can poke us and prod Us in the right direction technologically and all that kind of stuff by planting little you know Little Gems for us to find Technologies for us to you know like Muses right um we pick up these Technologies and it kind of brings us together that's what I think MH370 is all about it's a Plane full of people who were planting IDE ideas and Technologies and all that kind of stuff and when their job's over where do they go back home that's creepy maybe to the Future right that would be a really dark Twist on this whole m370 stuff that's why why I wanted to talk to you about it because if I'm right if those little balls are quantum Echoes right which means the quantum Echoes are going exactly far as far into the past as MH370 is they're in the future right and their Quantum Echoes are zipping around that means there's massless orbs zipping around empty air right but they're they're zipping around the plane in the past so if there was a big mother [ __ ] right that moves over and contains those three orbs inside its hold right and then spins up its anti-gravity right creates its masshole throws its mass into the past if the empty space of its hold Goes Through the Wormhole it could scoop the whole plane as its Quantum Echo drops into the past and as it passed through as it passed through the Hologram because if if if if now is the present resolution and it spins up its anti-gravity field and it goes into the past like it's it's it you know it's its mass occupies essentially a a lower resol or a higher resolution in the past as it goes through it would scoop that plane right out because it knows the plane is in that spot on the Hologram because it's the the actual massless orbs are inside its hole and and the quantum echos of the orbs are all around the plane so if it's if it's got the MH370 if it's got mh3 70 right in the middle if it's like if the Hologram where MH370 is is right there and it knows that because the orbs are spinning around in the in the future because the quantum echos are spinning around the plane in the past when it spins up its anti-gravity and it drops its mass into the past I think it could scoop that plane right out of uh right out of our essentially our time yeah local time and then it would be captured inside the quantum echo of the of the of the big plane and then or of the of the massless craft and then it could set down and it when it killed its field it would renormalize now I think it if it did that it would probably release a massive gravity wave right because it would have to cancel the positive energy that it would be bringing to its time because it brought the plane from the past right so you can't add energy so I think it would counterbalance it with a massive gravity wave release and if you if you listen to a podcast episode I did called the um the madman's curse I I document or I I I lift the audio from Kelly Cahill which is a a UFO experiencer in Australia and she described exactly that when she got abducted and there were a bunch of people there and there was like medical reports and everything it's like the most credible abduction story ever it's one of the most the most credible backed up abduction stories I think that we've seen um it's called The madman's Curse if you listen to it but she describes when the craft landed in her you know in our time and and essentially renormalized you know the aliens came out um that spoke English by the way um she got hit by a massive she felt this like massive gravity W go through and a horrified her um but I think that's what happens um to balance the energy like you know something that wasn't here before like shows up but if you listen to that I mean but it's consistent with kind of all that but that's what I wanted to tell you that I think that the quantum Echoes of those orbs that are zipping around MH370 in the video I think you're seeing Sunset Through the Wormhole um in the future and that's where the that's where the I think the misimpression of the flames and Fire fire came from and I think when you see that thing just completely just disappear I think that's the hole of a much bigger ship that just went and scooped it um and I think that like we were talking about before the reason is because it was time for them to go back to the future because they've and and so and that's why I told you I don't remember like a few months ago when when I I suggested you or I dm' you or something I was like like I think the key to MH370 are the passengers who were they what were they doing what are their backstories and because if they're all like crazy ass brilliant scientists a bunch of the word it's weird yeah okay dude I didn't know that but I'm just saying that right now scale semiconductor scientists I mean it's that's the motive 100% like 20 of them we found out they were sitting next to each other on the plane which is like hey that should have triggered if they if they got booked together by the company that should have triggered a red flag so that's too many people several of them brought their entire families with them which is like are you kidding me I told you okay so yeah you should you should read I'm talking about yeah that's exactly I think it's an interesting Theory because you know my mental block to it is the idea of time travel right like I just I'm trying to explain it in a way that's like doesn't break my perception of reality it I guess and so the time travel thing is the hardest thing but if you do I think the thing that's kind of rings true about the time travel theory in general and future human stuff is that if we can move faster than the speed of light and there is some type of uh time travel becomes possible then that is dark right because that is now we're talking about like is retro causality real is it alternate dimensions and and timelines that we have going on here whatever it is that's going to break people right because now people are wondering like can I go change the past and who knows what the full implications of a lot of that are and then like you just said you know what if these people were sent back because I mean this is super dark but like what if our entire Evolution over the last several thousand years right has been Guided by people from the future us from the Future who' been giving us information right and giving us technology and maybe religion you said that they brought their whole families cuz that's somebody who came to the Past who didn't have a family met somebody was here for a few years whatever like maybe had some kids whatever and they're like come on let's go we're going back home yeah we're going the future you know I mean so like I'm from the future you know what I mean like that's the conversation where that's literally the plot of Back to the Future too back it's all scientists yeah if it's all scientists and they've got their whole families and stuff now like I mean dude like it I you know it just has to be that I mean there's just there's it just nothing makes nothing makes more sense you know you know what I mean I mean it is weird because it does fill the Gap where like and I would say my my belief still is that the the issue is that there's evidence in the malds where the people saw the plane but they saw it at 600 in the morning which is like an eight hour six- hour time jump from when the plane disappeared where based on our evidence and the coordinates in there and I always thought okay well is there some kind of time dilation effect that happened to get the plane somewhere else on the planet or whatever but that's not the big thing I have an issue with thing I have an issue with is like did the people survive and I feel like they would have had to survive this event because otherwise you would just blow the plane up right if you're trying to kill everybody there's much easier ways to do it so in my mind some people at least some people had to survive I don't know if everybody did and if the people survive what do they do with them what do you do with all these people right now if the answer is they went to the Future instead right then they went back to the future back to the Back to the Future T it came from the future right because because this this goes along with what we were saying that that you know if this is a human civilization that was planted here by Interstellar humans then they know exactly what the recipe for getting through the fmy you know the great filter and the fmy Paradox and maybe they're planting Tech maybe they're doing that stuff maybe that's what this UFO business in some ways is about and and that's cool and I I think I think that in some ways though I I find that less dark because knowing that it's a little bit nhi put us here you know and and we're a colony there they might be you know trying to incubate us so that we can get to the point where we like you know kind of join up with the Federation and maybe it's a race to you know hurry up and get us to you know to kind of join up so we don't you know so they don't get busted for you know violating the prime directive when they hit the planet with a meteor 65 million years ago and wiped out the dinosaurs and what looks slow from our perspective but from the perspective of Intergalactic species looking down on us it would look like we're they're speeding the process up right like to us it would be like oh well that was a total violation of the prime directive it would be a complete violation of prime also be like oh lifetime why would they just give it to us right like I remember this one space that kim.com did I'm just going to rag on him because I think he's a little bit uh he doesn't really think about things as intelligently as he probably should he thinks oh why don't the aliens just give us the cure for cancer or whatever right and it's like well no that's not really how they're looking at it right they're looking at it as this like evolution of our whole species at the macro level not as simple of oh we're going to make these people have the longevity or cure for their diseases or what have you from the if from the non-human intelligence perspective like this is they're in it for the long game right the long cons isn't just like a we're going to change the we're going to change the whole civilization tomorrow right because it's it's too much shock to the system you've got to slow acclimate them to it and and get them up to speed with the technology over period of time I honestly think that um like microprocessors and the whole miniaturization of technology in general dating back to the 60s and before was potentially related to either UFOs or what have you just because of you look at how far we've advanced in the last hundred years and it's I mean you're looking at the curve it's like exponential inre right like I did an episode called Roswell Through the Wormhole and I talked about like I talked about exactly that how we went from vacuum tubes in you know 1947 to integrated uh microchip circuits by December of 47 like we defin how we have ai like now like 10 years ago people were thought AI is like fiction right and now we're like they're making like whole movies out of AI it's like you know it's uh it's incredible how much we've Advanced so I think that that that's a very interesting theory in terms of the whole future human stuff it's funny I think that you've given me the best arguments out of anybody today to really make me consider it um deeply in terms of all that stuff so yeah and it's just hard because like what I've tried to do is as somebody who's been like a Normy brain I call CNN brain type person in the past it's like I'm trying my best not to jump into every single esoteric aspect of it the remote viewings one's the one I get the most at least early on everybody wanted to know have I seen the remote viewing stuff and this and that and the truth of this is this is that um you know I've intentionally not tried to go there because when you look at the M37 videos there's enough going on there right trying to tie more esoteric stuff to it it's like I wish there was less esoteric stuff going on it' be easier to convince people that that's what's going that that's what happened in the plane um but you know if the holographic principle is true then I think the idea of deja vu remote viewing all that stuff comes back into the fold for sure right and that's what I tell people is yeah go ahead and you think about like there's there's things that I think people you know when you think about your brain right synapses firing in your brain is your thinking right it's it's it's electricity right it's bioelectricity zipping around well electricity perturbs magnetic fields and there's a huge magnetic field going through the whole earth and so really probably I don't know that anybody's figured out how to read it but right now you know it could be that our thoughts our Consciousness is wired to write with our thoughts we're writing into the magnetic field around the earth you know what I mean like we're literally writing our thoughts into the magnetic field as we think because it's electric synapses and there's magnetic field and we're perturbing it it's conceivable that you could alter your State of Consciousness to go into read mode and then you could be reading thoughts like in the magnetic field of the earth and if you think about it that way it's not totally imp aible those stories of you know something terrible happened to someone I love that I'm so connected to or whatever and you know like you know sister or whatever and then and they they just know that something happened you know because you know maybe they're extra sensitive to you know you know those waves or whatever that were etched into the magnetic field by their sibling or who knows all saying is that things that are woo tend to become less woo when if you just think about the technology if you just think about basic sort of fundamentals and first principles it's things that kind of seem magic before really aren't all that you know magic and it it kind of comes back to what we were talking about earlier when like I think I have anti gravity and I tried to build my fifth generation um anti-gravity generator and the motor started melting right there's a difference between getting the theory and understanding you know essentially you know how air foils work but then being the right right brothers and being able to build the plane you know what I mean yeah it's a difference between like yeah and I what I equated to is the idea of like the theoretical physicists who are understanding the concepts versus is the actual Engineers who are putting it together right and it's funny because I've interacted with both and the physics concepts are very elegant and and be have this beautiful kind of symmetry to them right but then it's it's a little dirtier when you dig into the actual engineering of it and seeing how it all plays out you know and so it's kind of like trying to figure out where the the line is between those things that weaves them together you know and I think that's it's a little bit fun to to figure out in general um and yeah to the point of the magic stuff you know I think that the thing I tell people is especially the Skeptics is do do you think that we're at the Pinnacle of all technology right now I think it would be extreme huous and ego to think that we've got it all figured out right now in 2024 on this planet especially looking at how far we've already progressed in the last hundred years you know I think that if you were to give the caveman the iPhone right or if you to go back the the Salem times they're going to burn you as a witch if you show them your iPhone right they're going to say that's black magic right um because yes like the sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from Magic and when I first saw the mh37 videos 370 videos that's when I went you know my first ontological shock that hit me was like this can't be possible right and then you dig into it and you start looking at the science and you go wait a minute this this does check out for me I think I was already just far enough to be able to accept it where I had looked at the double slit experiment I had watched enough PBS SpaceTime uh videos right where I'm going like wait a minute there is something going on that we don't understand related to higs field and non-locality right there's there's something there we can the Double C exp proves there's something magical about our universe that we don't quite understand with our current framework right and I wasn't I wasn't really ready for as far how far we could possibly be Advanced because you know if you listen to my investigate Earth podcast which is the very first one I ever did like I was actually like almost panicked because I'm sitting here talking about like there's got to be non-humans visiting us thousands of years more advanced right because I just thought this is so us and that's funny because it kind of lines back up now with what you're saying and and then I went away from that went more towards like no we could have this but it's like the military knows and has this and it's like a hundred years or more advanced and where we would be publicly um so I do think like I the truth is I don't really know what the nature of the UFO stuff and phenomenon is but my mind is wide open at this point right like I'm I'm ready for just about any dark answer that they could throw at me whether that's we live on some kind of Prison Planet uh where maybe our souls are being harvested who knows maybe the Mormons are right right or you know or was it Scientologist the I forget the Mormons I forget are the one where uh he reads the the tablets is it the Scientologist or the ones that are thetans are being you know absorbed from a alien species or something like that in a volcano I don't really I don't remember at all but um it does make me think the extent that there's more alien species out there that that you know they could all have degrees of truth no exactly that's it right it could be don't know absolutely and and I I think like I don't know I'm I'm more hopeful like and you know you you mentioned earlier about oh you know you know about the Mandela effect and all that kind of stuff for me a lot of these things like the answer is no like because I was very I was very sort of engineering methodical and I'm like okay they can't have mass okay what causes Mass it's the higs field okay how do I get a hold of the higs field it's left-handed electron you know what I mean and so and how do I you know deliver energy into the higs field I'm gonna oscillate these left-hand electrons with a you know with a harmonic signal high voltage and and it was like so I knew exactly or I I learned exactly what I needed to know to sort of back into the anti-gravity solution and so just from observables and first principles that's and so but then it was you know as I marinated on this that's when sort of The Theory of Everything started to emerge for me that's when I started oh real prime directive oh you know and then I started seeing hey look I'm talking about graphine and hexagonal structures and there's Tom Dong's uh to the Stars Academy uh UFO fragment that's uh nanolayered bismuth magnesium and zinc I'm like okay that totally perfectly fits what I'm talking about here from Dr Lawrence E from University of Nottingham 2008 where he's talking about you know essentially hexagonal crystal ltis is how you fill a magnetic field with left-hand electrons to create anti-gravity well he didn't say create anity that was me but so I think there's a connection there to room temperature super conductivity by the way because I was reading so I've been reading so many papers about it and one of them has to do with specific lattice structures crystal lattice structures which will allow the electrons to flow freely without bumping into uh any atoms right and that's what zero resistance and I think that there's a connection where that's what you need that's the effects that you need to produce in order to get the anti-gravitational stuff to work because everything is like uh vibration there's resonance right which is also important it feels like you have to you have to yeah exactly yeah so the way it works is this so you have your magnetic field lines you catch all your left-handed electrons in there and resonance is like what you see it's when the loading frequency right like bum bum bum bum matches the natural frequency of the electron vibration and so it's like we need to build 246 gigon volts into the Hig field by shaking it into that electron and it's a lot like pushing a kid on a swing there's a certain frequency That Swing goes out and comes back and we the only way we could do build that much energy is by pushing exactly when the swing comes back it goes out it comes back we push again it goes out it comes back we and and if we can time that essentially that harmonic pulse with the frequency of the oscillation in the magnetic field then we can essentially Jack and push that kid and like dump him out of the Swing right because we build up so much energy because right when he swings back we're pushing forward if he was coming back in and he was like halfway in and then we pushed we would screw it up we would like we would like yeah well I think of it like our energy using sound right like the resonance yeah so the resonance is when you match the pulse with the natural swing of that electron in that vibration and when you can do that when you get that resonant frequency which is the you push it goes out comes back you push it goes out it comes when you hit that resonant frequency that's when you can build Limitless energy into that field to that electron because you hit that resonance where it's coming right back and you're pushing again it's coming right back you're pushing again so you have to hit a resonant frequency to do that because we can't generate enough energy you just in one like punch you know it's let it build up it's the same way like another analogy would be for people to take baths next time you take a bath start rocking back and forth right you'll start to realize that like there's this resonance to it where if you get in resonance with it like you there's you feel less force and the it starts to build up and and then all of a sudden the water starts pouring over the side of the tub right yeah if you don't go in resonance though then it all falls apart right where now all the waves are going everywhere else right it's you can actually feel it with your body and feel the resonance back and forth right it's pretty crazy and that's how I think of it in terms of the small scales yeah go ahead no totally yeah so that's that's just it and so the experiment for the vad the vuse anti-gravity engine was to take [ __ ] and badges here guys and so but yeah but essentially you know create the magnetic field and and then and then send a signal through the disc and if the motor didn't melt like then what we would have been doing was playing around trying to find that frequency um trying to find a frequency where and and you take the whole thing I take the whole thing I put it on a scale and turn it on and when I find that frequency I'll know because this the the weight of the of the uh of the whole rig you know it'll get lighter yeah if if it works like I think it is and that's the that's the upshot of the experiment and and I think you know ideas are great and all that kind of stuff but if you can't build it you don't have it and if and a theory isn't any good unless you can test it and so and so that's why like I kind of fearlessly will talk about how I think our Consciousness on the 2D holographic surface of black hole and our Consciousness competes for the energy on the black hole that SpaceTime uses to move the Hologram because I can test it and you know when I get more time or whatever you know when I'm older and I don't work anymore you know man I'm gonna I'm do I have all kinds of experiments I'm GNA do like you know time dilation all that kind of stuff and in my podcast I talk about what the experiments are that we could do right now and so like when I applied to arrow and I said I said hey I think that you know you know essentially you know the the government's been essentially laundering money and doing things that Congress hasn't you know authorized you know these UFOs and Technology been collected and it's illegal and possession or knowledge of it is essentially tan amount to an admission of guilt and uh nobody is gonna tell R anything or participate we're never going to collect all the stuff up unless if if people are going to have to do that against their penal and financial interests and all that stuff and so I told them that if they hired me the first thing I'm going to go do is I'm GNA everybody's going to have a chance to to uh tell us what you know give over all your stuff and if you don't like believe me the FBI they're coming you know like there's going to be a time where you know safe Harbor's over and you know we're coming in with warrants and we're coming to get it and so it's going to be we can do it the easy way or the hard way and so and so what I said and there's there's legislation that says Aro could give everybody who was involved the free pass it says it it says you can be a whistleblower and you can't get in trouble and so and and and bottom line is is that you know we could test this if if in fact these U UAP and UFOs are are are are our Navy or our air force in the future our future Air Force zipping around in massless craft we could write I told this is what I told him I said first of all that tells us that we militarize this technology we militarize anti-gravity and we have it so that's good right so we know that like you know we've got at least however many years that you know our country you know we're going to be here I said but um and it also says you know if we want to collect intelligence and see where our adversaries are on anti-gravity we ought to be checking out their Flight Training areas their you know military Flight Training areas are there UFOs there too because you could gauge who's ahead in anti-gravity technology by you know the relative density of UAP sightings in their uh military Flight Training areas so say like um just sorry that's what people say stuff like you know why are all the sightings in America right well first of all like it's probably a database that's in English and so of course most of the sightings are going to be in American and English database but the other side too is like what if most of them are our technology right then of course you're gonna see a lot if you get there first we're gonna have more of them first but I have to say about your arrow thing though is real quick is that don't get yourself boinged if you know what I mean uh well you know in some ways it's part doesn't go well for some of these third party contractor whistleblower guys I don't think I mean well I don't have any classified information and but what I told them was I said look if it's us in the future what we do is let's the RO director should take a policy to the president tootus and say hey sign this which will prescribe corridors and zones for massless craft for our future massless craft if it's on in the future it becomes a time capsule to the Future and we would see today those craft conforming to whatever's in that policy in fact they're probably already doing it we just don't know because we didn't write the policy yet so like you could prove and so so what I'm what I'm telling them is like look I'm giving you ways to prove this right now call me crazy if you want I don't give a [ __ ] but I'm I'm I'm giving you techniques I'm giving you tactics and strategies so even if this was in my cover letter so even if they don't hire me like if they have a brain then whoever takes the job will do this because it's ridiculous you could you know you you hear like un certain Vector Graves um talk about you know threats to Aerospace to civilian aircraft and stuff we could fix that right now by writing a policy if I'm if I'm right and if those you know craft in uh the Navy flight training areas are real or our future massless craft we could write a policy today that says here you got to be here this altitude or whatever and we could restrict that airspace for everything else boom problem solved like done right I mean if it if it's true then that you know we put it in a safe that goes to the Future and if everybody follows that in the future we could look and see where all the you know the sightings are and stuff we could prescribe where they are in fact we could tell them where to go so we could study them so I mean there's there's there's a lot of things that we could do actions like concrete actions that we could take to Define some of these isolate some of these variables and solve them and that's what I put in that letter in my cover letter that was like you know we need to get to work and we need to stop you know you know we need to pull our thumb out of our ass and stop trying to like you know tell people lies that nobody's buying anymore we're just we're just too smart as a population to eat [ __ ] like that anymore I mean we just know better and so yeah we and we need to restore faith in government you know I mean let's have Smart plans let's execute him with confidence and integrity you know what I mean let's I mean because imagine and other thing I said was that right now with this all this you know Cloak and Dagger [ __ ] you have people who know their committing crimes and the enemies of this country the adversaries of this country can leverage that to extort them I'm Sor because the fear of getting pinched for you know violating Federal procurement law and all that kind of stuff that could be exposing our national security to our adversaries who could leverage that to Blackmail people to give them the secrets or whatever so we're really cutting our own dicks off if we don't kind of unify and pull together you know you know kind of approach this with Integrity get it back under Congressional control with the right you know security classifications and all that kind of stuff I'm not saying you know blurt it out to everybody but I am saying we need to pull our [ __ ] together and kind of get on you know you know get on the same page you know and and you know unify that's what I think and so I mean I don't know if they're going to take me seriously or or not but uh that's I have a bad feeling that the bad guys already are in control so it's pretty unlikely they're going to allow themselves to be exposed but the other thing I would say if they have if they have AE if they have a free pass if they can if they can all become whistleblowers and then they won't get [ __ ] give them some yeah you know the only way right do it I mean like some of them probably deserve to [ __ ] go to jail for a really long time but you know what if if that's the way we want to go then count on not getting anywhere exactly it's never goingon to happen if we don't do it right we we just gota we just got to suck it up we got to say okay [ __ ] fine all right but you know give us the stuff and you know then we can move out because right now I we have so few I don't know I mean you know I mean we got we got we got I mean we you know I think we s is on it like he's you know involved whatever but man if like you me and sa got together we could [ __ ] we could blow some [ __ ] up you know what I mean no definitely get some get some more like and then if any feds listen we don't literally mean blow something up so please don't arrest us yeah no no no I mean I mean we could blow it up we could totally dominate we could you know we could no I think that's what's important about making these connections right now too and I gave Arrow a bunch of verifiable information like you know about the plane situation the evidence we put forth said here's the leaker go talk to him go figure out what this guy was thrown in prison for right if it's those videos that's it right that's all we need you know then you can prove we've got some anti-gravity technology because those videos are showing anti-gravity technology whatever the nature of that is right I don't know they can figure that out but we've given them that uh gave I said here's two videos you know one's an mq1 C gry Eagle the other one's some kind of unknown satellite capabilities which we think is a mixture of sentient AI that manages the satellites and cers space based infrared system you know that's all verifiable stuff we even gave him the general Lieutenant Joseph F or sorry General Joseph F Dunford right which I don't appreciate like you're a veteran so I appreciate your service um it doesn't make me proud in any way to be exposing our military and stuff like this because I do think National Defense and security is important but this goes well beyond that right we're talking about technology will change the planet here like change the whole planet um and that's the part where I think it it does borderline on crimes against humanity but then you know to your point I did an episode called who watches the Watchmen and it's essentially it lays out because I'm a a Jag and so I lay out what all the laws are what IGS do how they work and I essentially map out exactly now I haven't talked to Dave grush I'd love to talk to the guy but essentially I called exactly what I think is in his report you know the reprisal that he's talking about what makes it a whistleblower I talk because you know some people like oh he's never seen any of it or whatever if if if you're if you're at all interested in the mechanics of what it means to be an IG whistleblower and all that kind of stuff and and how we know what he's saying is true check that out it's it's called the who watches the Watchman and I put in uh all of the it it's kind of long but it has all of the hearings and stuff so you actually get the audio of the Congressional hearing so you can hear everything and I kind of unpack it as you know as it goes whatever so um if you if you if you if you're interested in that man think about checking it out appreciate it yeah yeah no I think we should probably wind down here but it's been a good uh two-hour discussion that we've had Brad and can definitely do another one in the future at some point for sure but I want to keep up to date too on any your um experiments that you're doing in terms of uh the success or failures you know I just think that either way it's a learning process and and getting better at it and like you said you know since in my opinion I'm a person who learns by doing as well so I think that you can't get um you know disenfranchised if it doesn't work the first time right you just go back to the board like you're the type of person who you've seen the answer right we know UFOs are real so we just have to figure out how they work you know videos you know I think these MH370 videos are undisputably real in my opinion so we know how we can see it and then we just have to figure out you know how it works and I think the reason why everyone's so interested in talking to me too especially people like you who are like people who are Engineers uh or people who are scientists physicists it's because they look at they go this matches up with what our you know theor is of how the stuff works right and to me that's probably some of the most compelling evidence part of the reason why I think they're true not to mention just the fact that I've had literally people like s and Dave come out and S hasn't specifically said he thinks they're real but he's gone about as close as you can go right without potentially risking jail and and Dave actually multiple times said he does think the videos are real you know he there's no way those videos are not real and here's why yeah in order to be an original Faker like you know the Mona Lisa is there right like anybody can say oh I copied the Mona Lisa that doesn't make the Mona Lisa fake you know what I mean exactly that's funny because I use that exact analogy but yes oh really I use that exact analogy I said I can copy the Mona Lisa people can copy it but this is an original work right it's like who made the original right that's and see here's the thing if you were the original Faker right if you're the original Faker that means that you had to know exactly what the heads up display of the Predator looked like you had to know that there were you had to guess right cuz it's fake you had to guess that there were three orbs zipping around it you had to guess the exact coordinates that would match like the Telemetry and everything and so already you know the nerd in his mom's basement making this fake video there's no possible there's no mathematical way that it's that's even close to possible to fake all of that technical [ __ ] then there's the satellite feed that matches the exact that that that the original Faker could never know about yeah they don't know capabilities exist yeah and it and it's showing a different angle that totally matches the video also has the three orbs and they both go and disappear at the same time how about the converging part at the end like what a weird DET and the lines that you mentioned like that can explain how you could use actually propulsion yeah like you said with the microwave just using as your directed you know uh there no I've never seen any UFO videos that show anything like that right the closest thing is like maybe Bob lazar's explanations but not even that and the part where they converge at the end where that's amplifying the energy as well is I mean that's I who came up with this like Bob Greener literally is on the record saying like I didn't travel back time in the alto University paper that explains these low energy nuclear reactions wasn't even available till after the plane disappeared right so like later on that year so the science wasn't even out there in the public realm to even fake the stuff so how did they make it all accurate right so that's the part where it's like you could show me any number of debunks any number of oh this Cloud picture matches or we found a stock effect that looks similar and that has no weight compared to the weight no weight at all because there's way for an original Faker to make up all that stuff and then have it match I don't know when they found the satellite but then have it match the satellite exactly like and there's no discrepancies like nobody made any mistakes on any frames or anything like that right it's all 100% perfect you know like when people make something they mess up like here or there right and the more effort you put into something the more time it takes but the yeah and it was released contemporaneously with the the the uh you know with the the event so I know it's just Unthinkable and one more thing the engineering is accurate too on the plane the capabilities of the plane this is the part where people rag on me for posting uh somebody on Reddit claimed to be the uh VFX lead artist for top gun Maverick and they talked about how the hardest thing they actually had to cheat in Top Gun Maverick which was 2022 movie by the way uh to get the speed of the plane because when you scale it down it's very difficult to get accurate engineering to be realistic to what the capabilities of the plane are and people did the math on the the turn on the plane and the turn because you have to slow down when you turn right just like you would in a car on a turn sure and the plane's going at like 150 200 miles per hour it's basically maxing out the capabilities of a 77700 in a circle turn but it's also descending and the descending part is also important otherwise it wouldn't be uh accurate to real life so not only is this person a mathematical genius a physicist and an engineer that uh you know knows the science better but they're also mechanical engineer that knows planes well enough to get them accurate as well like and they have what military knowledge that nobody else knew it's like and they know the HUD they know exactly what the Predator heads up display looks like this is why the bounty was supped specific is that like I need the hoaxer to come forward and not just this random guy on Twitter I'm not even going to say his name because it's so sad that claimed that he like uploaded the video to a site that didn't even exist at the time the videos were posted but somebody has to bring the source material right because I want to show me what you did to make these videos not just like oh I pulled these stock effects no no show me your exact work leading up to these masterpieces that you created right you're not going to oh I threw it away cuz I didn't care about it anymore I just made some perfect two different Perfect videos to show secret military classified footage but then I decided to throw the hard drive out like come on dude no you would have your you'd have that right 15 grand there's no way there's just no way to fake all that and then just just added to the reality that no debris fields ever found dude the thing vanished and so been found one different story right but like they literally never found a plane I mean like it just there's just no way possible that those are faked just absolutely none and so but the crazy thing is is that I just saw them for the first time you know when you were posting them and I'm like oh look he's manipulating the quantum vacuum you know that looks like it's Quantum Echo and it's falling like a tractor beam and you can look up like going back two years you know in you know the you know the all of my essentially the Vorhees Mass effects all those episodes going back two years where I'm talking about how ante grav has achieved how the Zero Point Energy propulsion works it all matches and that's why that's why when I saw those I that's why you know I I DM I'm like hey dude I'd really like to you know talk with you and and have the you know interview you and have the space I feel like you've been interviewing me but oh this has been awesome back and forth that's the thing when you're a podcaster too you end up just you can't help but ask other people questions right so it's like yeah I've got I've never interviewed any you're the first person I've ever interviewed I don't interview all of my episodes are all monologues oh well this has been an awesome conversation back and forth uh Brad I I really enjoyed it so let's uh yeah we can uh we should definitely do something else in the future we'll plan something out maybe we can do like a little panel discussion about either similar topic or something else I just think um you know I like the way you think about stuff where you have definitely have an open mind and a very scientific background on everything and so you know it's just it's it's fun to have a free flow conversation like this I've had a great time tonight yeah me too thanks a lot and thanks everybody for watching yeah do you want to plug anything I mean I know that you're technically the host but I'm gonna post this up live no tell everybody what you know what your I want you I want you to plug something but okay I'll plug something first so I'll do mine my yeah you guys want to follow me it's just X Aston on Twitter or on YouTube also the hard truths podcast a lot of the stuff Brad's been talking about here you can hear on the hard truths podcast with Salvadore Pas Bob Greener Dave Rossy I had Timothy Abino on which he's super smart guy awesome to talk to royy Herbert and I've got a new one dropping as well with uh Martin Gibson who has a unification Theory as well so um you know the science is is crazy so anyway I appreciate it Brad yeah man awesome and yeah I'm at Brad V the you Sonic gravity is my podcast it's Sonic and then hyphen gravity. us um and uh yeah I just I really appreciate you uh going live with me this is my first time and my texts all screwed up I couldn't play any videos and stuff I'll sort all that out because uh and I'll post some links and stuff so you can see that I'm just like when it comes to the holographic principle and all that stuff I'm not making it up you know I mean I didn't think of it was like you know Nobel Prize physicists who did um and watch uh watch PBS SpaceTime with Dr Mano d man it's awesome definitely send me those links later I'll post them on the YouTube as well all right cool all right see you everybody thanks for joining us thanks everyone see you Ashton