Energy, Empire & the End of Control: ZPE, Teleportation, and the Next Global Order

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[Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] Hey everybody, good afternoon. I'm Ann Vandersteel and welcome to this incredible edition of Steel News. I don't usually break in on a Thursday at 2 o'clock. try to keep my schedule when I do show up about one o'clock. But this is unprecedented times and uh we have got to really do some serious work and I appreciate the audience that's coming in that are big fans of Ashton Forbes. This is someone who I I learned about I don't know maybe about a year ago when I was flying back from Panama and I said, "Oh my god, I got to reach out to this guy." And he's really responsive. When I DM'd him on X, uh he was following me. So, we connected and well, it took me a little bit of a hot minute with a lot of stuff I've got going on to get around to connecting with him, but I did get to meet somebody he had an interview with, Dr. Steven Greer, at an event at Mara Lago, and Dr. Greer was sitting at the table with, none other than three star Lieutenant General Michael Flynn. So, if you ever need some sort of um shall we say uh evidence maybe or just uh you know that by association he's sitting at General Flynn's table, the guy's the real deal, he's the real deal. All right. So, this is really an exciting time for me. You all don't know me very well from my childhood and how I grew up, but I had a kind of a unique childhood. My dad was a captain in the Army Air Corps, US Army Air Corps, World War II. He had me when he was old. He was 50. But, um, because most people wouldn't be able to say that at my age. But the the short story is my dad, you know, had seen some unique technologies and did some things that were in terms of what he did as a test pilot in World War II that was classified. So, I was brought up talking about a lot of things we're going to talk about today. And so, this isn't foreign to me, but there's a time and a place for my audience to introduce this kind of stuff. And I like to look at things through a a global lens, a geopolitical lens. So, this is a very special edition of Steel Steel News for me because we're going to pierce this veil of secrecy and we're going to look into the technologies that frankly can change the world and frankly if they haven't already. Ashton Forbes is an independent researcher. He's a self-styled whistleblower on quantum teleportation, zero point energy, suppressed energy technologies, best known for leading the MH370X investigation. Remember that Malaysian Airlines that disappeared? And calling out the secrecy that keeps revolutionary tech hidden from the world. And in recent months, Ashton Forbes has shared compelling, if not controversial, research on X about quantum energy, uh, teleportation, zero point energy, and even theories linking the disappearance of Malaysia Flight 370 to covert teleportation experiments. From cold fusion and artificial gravity to AIdriven scops and the quantum ether, Forbes suggests we're in the midst of suppressed technological revolution. One that could liberate humanity from energy scarcity, debt slavery, and geopolitical manipulation. Wouldn't it just be freaking fantastic if we didn't have to pay for energy? Think of the hidden tax that is in everything in your life. And as tensions of course between Israel and Iran escalate and as the cost of living skyrockets throughout the hidden energy taxes and inflation society, we're all standing at a big crossroads. And to address this and the looming US engagement in war between Israel and Iran. Joining us for the second half is George McMillan. He's a geopolitical strategist whose work frames, I should say, reframes really global power struggles as a long-standing contest between land power and sea power. We're going to see how that plays out here, I think, in the not too distant future, by the way. But with disruptive technologies like zero point energy, teleportation, artificial intelligence, the entire equation may be about to collapse. So, I want to bring these two guys together in the final segment where I'm going to have Ashton and George get together. We're going to have this bigger conversation. Are we standing at the edge of a Star Trek future or a technocratic prison disguised as progress? I'm sure you guys see all the information that's going floating around on X about Palunteer and you know where is this all really going? You know, of course, the Real ID and and and Barbie over there at health and sorry, Department of Humans uh Department of Homeland Securityurities. I call her Barbie. But uh anyhow, could the release of zero point energy and related breakthrough technologies truly dismantle this fossil fuel empire? I don't think it's really fossil fuel, by the way. I'm just saying. Collapse the control matrix upheld by media, government, academia, and usher in a decentralized Star Trek style future. Or will those who profit from war debt and ignorance bury the truth before humanity wakes up? So today, joining me now to meander through the topics about 0 point energy and quantum ether, uh quantum energy teleportation. And we're going to talk a little about flight 370, coal fusion, plasma reactors, magnetic motors, basically zero point energy, AI, the scops, and all that stuff. And of course, we have to talk about the egg video because that has been really controversial for Ashton. Uh, joining me now is Ashton Forbes. Ashton, it is great to have you. Let me bring you up here on the stage. Thanks so much for being with us today. This is like uh sort of like a really exciting interview for me because I don't get to do these very often. No, thank you for having me and I'm excited to talk about it. I love talking about zero point energy and demystifying it and help people understand what it means, what it can do, what it can't do. Um, and why it's been kept hidden from us for so long. Yeah. Why has it been kept in? So, before we go there, I want you to tell my listeners a little bit about who you are and actually what brought you into the public eye as a researcher on these suppressed technologies. You've done a lot of work around Flight 370, but what is was that your entry point? What how did you get here? Yeah, that honestly is it. I didn't even want to be a social media influencer. I didn't want to have to learn quantum mechanics, but I dug into MH370, the missing Malaysian airliner. Uh, a couple years ago is when I began researching it when these videos reemerged. And a lot of people just dismissed the videos right off hand. Some people, many people in the chat right now were longtime believers like myself. Uh, for me, it was when I realized we were looking at a computer software in one of the videos that was somebody was moving the software around. I thought that was a very peculiar detail. Even at a mouse cursor coming over the screen, you could tell someone was interacting with the uh the software. And now we know that that is Gorgon Stair Air Force surveillance capability. So the story, what does that mean? What is Gorgon Stair Air Force surveillance capability mean? That means they've got this plane flying low. Usually this is for tracking things on the ground. So, this plane is flying low and they've got a drone flying above it and this drone flying above it has cameras on either wing. Now, there's different configurations for these as the system has advanced, but they can loiter these drones up in the sky and it produces Google Earth video playback. So, you're watching massive area view update uh a few times per second. That's why it's called wide area motion imagery, whammy, because technically it's not video. Video requires like 24 frames per second. That's why it looks so seamless. So that's why in the one in the whammy, you're watching this person move this camera around. It's like a zoomed in focus view that they can pop these windows up and it looks like it's jerky. It's why it look the plane looks jerky when it's moving because it's a low frame rate, only six frames per second, right? So that was like the the proof that wow there's no way anybody made this like this is actually military software that even now basically nobody in the in the public knows about and at the time you would have had to been on the cutting edge of the black world technology to even have any idea of what this was when the videos came out. So, I've been researching the science about what we see in those videos because we watched the Malaysian airliner just vanish like it just poof goes through a a mirror like this is, you know, a wall, but it's just not there anymore, right? And it turns out this is all connected to this idea of a gravity wave making gravity waves manipulating with the the the ether that spacetime is not an empty vacuum that just like Einstein said that we might be able to produce a Einstein Rosen bridge you know a a wormhole between two points in space and time. Yeah. And I'm here to talk to you today because it's all real. It's all legit. Stephven Greer specifically has looked at these videos. You can see the silhouette of from the video overlaid over the actual a picture of the plane there. And he said that his people say that the science is legit and that that's an Einstein Rosen bridge. Wow. And the discoveries that I've come across, this is just my personal journey and the research is that this isn't we're not looking at like aliens coming out of nowhere with these orbs. Like this technology is technology that humans have developed. human beings, people specifically in the Air Force research labs, and they've been working on it for, you know, probably a very, very long time. And the last thing I'll say before I let you jump in is that I don't know if it comes from aliens or if we dug it up from an ancient civilization or if we just figured it out ourselves and we've been using these other things as a distraction. End of the day, I just want to fix the here and now because we can't go back and fix what happened before. At least, I don't think. More more on that later, though. Yeah. No, I I I I don't I I would agree with your assessment. You kind of have to pick up right now. There's so much coming at us. I mean, I don't I don't even know where to start, but I mean, the big thing obviously is what's happening over in Israel, Iran, and the fact that uh it's becoming more and more obvious we're going to be jumping in this. I was speaking to somebody earlier. We'll leave them off the table, but they believe, many believe, I should say, that Friday is the day that we might actually go hot, right? Where we're going to enter the war. We'll see. But there's a lot of pieces, you know, Powell not lowering uh interest rates today is going to be problematic for the president having to refinance our debt. Uh so he's going to have to print money. There's really no other way out of it at this point in the short term. And best way to print money is to go to war, right? That's that's pretty easy. And then of course, if you look at what's going on with our with our oil reserves, they are they're moving lots of barrels of oil around because they need to get urgently refined them. Well, you use them for cars and and uh airplanes maybe, you know, and since you go to war, you spend a lot more aviation fuel. So, there's just some tells like that that are happening, but we'll see. Maybe we're just getting the chess pieces in line. So, looking at uh you know, back into this discussion and refocusing here. I want to kind of touch on some topics just quickly. You know, Malaysia Airline, do you have any idea where to go? I mean, did it end up at Diego Garcia? Where's the plane? Yeah. Uh you know, that's a great question. And the funny part is we might have enough evidence to like really make informed guesses on where it actually is. Okay? Because we can look at where the where was this debris found? Because okay, now we've got this story. We've got these videos and we're going, okay, they've got some exotic technology, but what's happening? Well, it's definitely teleportation. It's not annihilation that they're doing to that plane. It's not cloaking. Although cloaking and teleportation kind of end up being very very similar when you get down to the physics of it, but this plane is actually going from one location on Earth to another location. And I'll be accurate to the videos. It's being pulled backwards as well. If you just use electrical engineering theory PR first principles, you can figure out that this plane is being pulled backwards based on the spin of the these basically electromagnets spinning around the plane because that's fundamentally what those orbs are. Just little balls of energy, little ball little magnets essentially. And so they're pulling that backwards. So, when you look at where the debris was found, well, this one piece of debris here that I've just now kind of rediscovered, I knew about, but it seems like there might be it might have been like an operation to like hide that this debris was from MH370. It looks just at a glance like a piece of a commercial airliner even has the Boeing honeycomb pattern in the debris. And you have to wonder, how could a piece of debris wash ashore in Thailand and then a bunch of other debris wash ashore in Africa? Those are really, really far apart from one another. They really are. So, well, the answer is, oh wow, we are looking at a video of this plane that was flying west over past Thailand from the South China Sea and then it's being teleported to the west based on electrical engineering principles. So that puts it somewhere near the Maldes or closer to Africa. And that's why if this plane did go down, it didn't go down in the South Indian Ocean. It had to have gone down somewhere much closer to Africa. And I'd say if I I looked at the ocean currents, I'm not a ocean currentologist or whatever they call themselves, but it looks like a perfect match for where they found the debris. Like Diego Garcia military base looks like a great spot. Turns out to be a super secret military base. No one's allowed to fly near it at all. Oh, all the other conspiracy theories at the time said that like that's where the plane went. You can even go on Google Earth and like the Malaysian people trolled them. And if you look up Diego, there's like a picture of MH370 like tied to the base as well. So, you know, oh, and there were some islanders that saw the plane flying low. Like 21 people, I think is the official number. Two different people or three different people went and interviewed these people on this small island. They don't see jumbo jets fly over their tiny island. Huge plane flying south towards Diego Garcia. It got dismissed because the plane was coming from the wrong direction. Instead of coming from the east where they thought the plane should have been coming from, it was coming from the west. So yeah, for me I think either that plane ended up in Diego Garcia, they ripped it up and some pieces got in the water or it was it was on fire from this operation they were doing to it and some pieces were falling off or they ditched the plane somewhere underwater near Diego Garcia where like nobody's going to ever go look. Something like that. So the plane was reportedly on fire. That's what you know created. The whole thing was in operation like the CIA had the whole thing planned. And I mean now this is why I like to look at it from the geopolitical perspective. Uh as this weird letter to me stated, all the problems in the world happen for political reasons, right? These are just the big dogs, the big state governments are coming in and they're trampling over all us, all the little people. So this in my opinion the story that makes the most sense is that these 20 engineers on board this plane from Freescale Semiconductors that's connected to US defense they were be either they had information that China was going to leverage them or they were defecting or something. Eight of them were Chinese nationals and 12 of them were Malaysian nationals. So you're like okay none of them are American but they work for this American company. They're going to Beijing. the story about why they're going there doesn't really make sense like to upgrade the plants. There shouldn't be all these people, all these engineers on the same plane at all. And so you imagine a situation where the CIA let that happen just to run the operation and the first thing you need to do is you set you set the fire to turn the plane around. Plane's flying to China. Okay. Well, what do I want it to do? I want it to turn around. So when does the fire start? Like right after it gets up towards cruising altitude. 40 minutes after it takes off. planes. Boom. Fire. Gotta turn around. Gotta go away from China. Gotta get away. And here's the thing. It's a backup plan, too. Because if their other weird orb strategy doesn't work out, they want this plane to crash. They want that plane to crash because then that way, you know, they don't get caught or what have you. But just as this plane's about to crash, after an hour of the plane flying around, trying to find somewhere, then they've got drones already ready to go, already watching this area, intercepting the plane, and they release their weapon, their orb weapon on it. Uh, so the last thing people ask me is like, what happened to the people? Well, we've got a fire on the plane. We've got some crazy teleportation technology, which nobody's ever seen before. Uh, I'd say it's extremely unlikely that they survived that. Especially when I think about things like the Philadelphia experiment where people were getting stuck into walls and things like that. It feels like they didn't have the safety protocols exactly set for that uh that operation was happening there for that plane. Especially if we were finding pieces of debris of the plane kind of all over. So, I don't want to give anybody false hope out there. I'm just here to give you the hard facts. No, it's good and I appreciate it because you brought pro provided, you know, information that I hadn't heard. So, it's always good to learn uh information from wherever you can get it and you I think you make a compelling argument. A lot of things don't add up, but the proximity to Diego Garcia, which is a super secret base, is of course always of interest and it piques everybody's interest just like all the other super secret bases that if you you know, Area 51 or uh you know, which I've, you know, flown driven into and then you've been chased out of. So, this is just the world in which we live and uh we're here to serve the masters. But, uh you know, I'm one of those drama recently. Sorry to interrupt, but did you see the drama about Diego Garcia recently? Because it was been in the news. I think it was uh senator um uh crap, I forget his last name. Um is it on the House or the or the Senate Intelligence Committee? Yeah. So, the Diego Garcia, we were first of all, they gave Diego Garcia back to Maitius and Trump actually just signed off on that. And um they gave it back to Maitius. Senator Kennedy, I think it was. And I'm sorry, did you say they gave it back to Maitius? Yeah. So to Mauritius. So basically we stole this land or or the British did. The British basically took this land back in like the 50s and we built this super secret base there and they leased it out and then now we've decided like, oh, we did this horrible thing. So there's like the only people to give it back to though was Maitius, which is like the closest nation, but we're still going to like keep this secret base there. And so this is this is significant and it's on sovereign it's on sovereignty and it has it goes into the whole global reset situation because there's people out there like myself I'm a national I'm not even a US citizen anymore that believe that you know your sovereignty was stolen because they've you know basically make everybody citizens or and they you know we we all know what they did to the American Indians what they've colonized all over the world and that's interesting that they gave it back. So yeah, keep going. Wonder maybe it's not that important anymore. I mean, that's one thing that goes through my mind right away. Senator Kennedy brought up good points. He's like, this weakens our position with China because China can leverage Maitius now. And like, you know, and it's like, yeah, it makes sense. And why do we have Diego that base to begin with? Because it's strategic. I mean, it's in the middle of the Indian Ocean right there. Lets us cover that whole side of China, everything near India, etc. the whole Southeast Asia as well. So, it is interesting that we gave that up and it kind of makes you wonder what is is there anything also ge geographically interesting about that place? There's this magnetic anomaly that's somewhat near right over that as well. So, it kind of makes you wonder from the you know the paranormal perspective like is there something you know unusual there? They've been digging. Is there lay lines that cross it? I'm not really like a big lay lines guy, but you know, maybe something like that in general. But they also recently in the news were putting a bunch of bombers. We were sending a bunch of bombers there to get ready for potentially the war here that they may have known about was going to already kind of go down. One last question I want for you real quick because I want to ask a war related question on the Iran stuff. Do you think that the next war we do, let's say I think this Iran things, the ball's already, you know, rolling downhill. I don't see it stopping. Do you think we're going to actually have boots on the ground in the next war? Do you think we've technologically surpassed beyond that with all this drone technology that it would be more of just like cyber related? Yeah, I think it's going to be air and and cyber. I don't think we're necessarily going to put boots on the ground. I mean, that's just that's so yesterday. And I don't think Americans I mean, that's just not going to be palatable for Americans. I mean, how many flag drake coffins did have we watched come home and how many trillions of dollars have gone out and yet we're still swallowing the same narrative. WMD narrative over and over and over again. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like, how dumb do they think we are? The tail is wagging the dog of America right now. And it does, you know, it's not a binary choice for me. It's not, you know, I'm not anti- I'm not anti-war with Iran because I'm pro-Israel or vice versa. I don't want war, period. And it doesn't mean I support Iran or don't support Iran. I just don't want war. So, and I understand that, you know, if people really believe there's nuclear weapons of mass destruction Iran, and yes, they chant death to America, but let's let's dissect that scop. Is it the people of Iran really doing it, or is it the Supreme Leader and artificial intelligence pumping that narrative out? Because I've I've known uh families that fled Iran in 79 and uh you know, they love America and you know, what happened with the CIA installing their own puppet government in the 50s destroyed their country. And so they want their country back. They're a very modern country. I mean, I know you know this. So what's real what's the real story with Iran and what's the real story with Israel? And I think and and every country, Ashton, we have rogue governments, including our own, including our own that are suppressing the people. And that's what's happening around the world. We have just a RICO criminal infested institute of governments that are just killing us and and weaponizing us and and monetizing us and making us all debt slaves. We got to get out from underneath that. We got to think differently. And that's why technology, I think free energy is such a potent conversation because those governments don't want it. If they did, they would have given it to us already. I mean, we know uh about Tesla and we know about zero point energy and zero point is not even like a novel thing anymore. I mean, it's really working. I know people have working 0 energy on their motor homes and whatever. So, this is not like woo anymore. It's out there, but we got to get it really out there and shake things up a bit. Yeah. And here's the other thing I would say too is because I want to inform people and not just sugarcoat it. Because here's the thing I think about in terms of the bigger picture of why have they been hiding this? What are all the implications? One of those major implications, it's not just simple as they're evil and greedy. They are, of course, but it's also that it's dangerous. I mean, we're not talking about just simple nuclear weapons anymore. I think they use nukes as a dog whistle. I mean, nukes are 80y old technology. If you've got 0 point Tesla technology that can create a black hole, I mean, you can wipe out the whole planet. I mean, I think the real danger if I'm the United States and I've got this super advanced technology, zero point energy technology, free energy, all our energy sources are basically obsolete, then my concern when I look at Israel, Palestine, or really any two waring factions. I go, these people can't be allowed to have this because one of them is going to just press the button and wipe out all of us. You know, like I don't care if they wipe each other out. I mean, I do, but at the same time, I can't really control everything in the world. But I can't, you know, allow them to have unlimited capability and technology. And that's what I get afraid of to kind of steal me on the other side of the argument is, I mean, they've shown they're not afraid. They're firing hypersonic missiles down in the middle of the city, you know? I mean, that's we're watching it happen. Maybe they're not quite hypersonic, but those were really fast. 3 seconds from being in the air to creating a shock wave that I can visibly see with my eyes on a video. uh you know what would happen if they had this unlimited destructive capability. I think we're all going to be wiped out very very fast if that's the case. So for me it's a hard thing to look at and say really what is right and wrong here? And if you have that mentality too, the scary part is this, and I'll pass it back over to you, is that if you have the mentality that you can't allow that any waring faction other than yourself to have this almost god level technology because you're afraid because the world will get destroyed before we can all escape it, then you can justify anything. Basically, you can justify any fascist dystopian type act for any reason, including teleporting an airplane that has 239 innocent people on it. And then the I guess the question is how do we accept that reality while also trying to give power back to the people so that we don't have to live in a world like that? Well, I mean this is supposedly why League of Nations and United Nations were were born, right? That was the idea. So you would have a benevolent organization to hash things like this out. And back then maybe we didn't know how sophisticated technology would be today or maybe we did. I don't know. The point I'm saying is, you know, we are dealing with human beings and human beings are are very fallible, right? There's only one infallible is is God. And uh as far as I know, Jesus isn't walking the earth right now. If if he is, he hasn't stopped by to say hello yet. So, we're still down here trying to figure it out. And I think this is part of the human journey and this is what we're on. And I think disclosure is going to be really critical because look, we've been given choices along the way and most recently COVID, right? And I'm I don't condemn anybody that took the shot. I didn't and I, you know, did my research and I have good, you know, lots of good friends that showed me how dangerous that was. So, I didn't take it. I had three family, four family members who did and they're all in really bad shape, by the way. Really bad. It's heartbreaking. I've got to go and visit one next week and help her. So, I I know how evil the world is when it comes to to the globalists and the power players because they have an agenda and it is clearly a depopulation agenda and controlling all of us. They've said it over and over in various ways. So, I I think you know this is part of the human experiment. the human journey. And you know, God gives us discernment. I want to play something really quickly because President Trump mentioned this and uh it goes right in line with what you're talking about. We have the greatest military, the strongest military, stronger than any, nobody's even close. We have the best weapons in the world, but we don't want to use them. If you threaten America or our partners, however, then you'll be faced with overwhelming strength and devastating force. We have things that you don't even know about. You don't hear about and uh if you did, you say, "Wow, what do you think he's talking about?" I love that quote. And the reason why I love it, and first of all, I want to go ahead and on the record and say I didn't get the shot either. All my family members did. I had as much peer pressure as you could possibly imagine, including my company threatening to fire me over it, and I still didn't take it, just like you, because stuck to my principles, said, "You know what? Line in the sand. Here we go." Um, but man, that clip by Trump is amazing because just I think a couple weeks before that, he said basically the exact same thing almost verbatim. He said, "We have weapons nobody understands. Nobody knows how they work. So, we're way far ahead of everybody else." And so, then he said he kind of shrugged and said, "So, they're not going to do that." In reference to like China and the tariff war that was going on at the time, right? I was telling people at the time like, "Guys, we have free energy and teleportation technology. We should be imposing our will economically upon the world. I mean, it's just a smart strategic decision. I'm not saying that from a moral perspective. I just mean, if you want to be America first, there you go. Boom. He did. And then he goes to the Middle East. And that wasn't thinking Saudi Arabia where that was happening. He goes in front of all the Saudi, you know, princes and kings, what have you, right? And he's just telling them, "Yeah, basically anyone on our side, you're good. You're good if you're on our side. But if you're not, well, we got weapons that you wouldn't even be able to comprehend with your mind. So, you know, good luck. And he says it in, you know, pretty openly, and this is the last thing I want to say in this is that Trump people were from the UFO community, which I'm kind of tapped into, is they were saying if Trump knew about the UFO stuff, he would be he wouldn't be able to resist blurting it out, you know? And I'm going, well, here he is. This is the real secret here is the crazy weaponry that we would consider UFO tech which is just crazy Tesla zero point energy technology that we just don't understand hasn't been demystified yet. Oh, and then one last thing is that Michael Katzios, this the science and technology adviser to the president, also had that speech like in the same right after Trump said that the first time and basically says that we handicap we held our I forget the exact wording, but like we held oursel back technologically and that we have the ability to manipulate time and space to annihilate distance. And I'm just sitting there going, "Guys, there it is. There it is. and flying cars. And they talked about flying cars. Was it an executive order? Uh I don't know exactly about that, but yeah, I mean the point is I think we're looking at the beginnings of a soft disclosure of an actual shift where enough people are waking up to really what they're hiding. You know, energy sources that they call breakthrough energy sources. They use all these dog whistles for everything. Um and here's the thing about science. Science looks for predictive events. Like your theory is good if you can predict what's going to happen, right? Because then it shows your model fits what was going to occur. And so that's what I like. The reason why I like to look at the geopolitical stuff isn't because I'm a geopolitics expert. I like to look at it because I'm going I'm looking at the craziest videos ever and I know they're real and they show science that means there's some crazy suppression happening. And you apply it to these ge geopolitical events and it starts to make sense. Like why is Russia and China why are they so quiet about us just like basically slapping Iran down? Like we just were like, "Hey, we control your aerospace and we can take out your leader any moment we want." And Russia and China are like uh okay. Uh like why are they so afraid? Well, I mean to me it's because we have weaponry that they're not going to come. They don't want to get involved. They don't want this smoke basically. So I I look at it from that perspective. I can I appreciate what you're saying there, but I also see it from the geopolitical side. And I'm looking at the financial system, right, which is our financial system is is is done. It's cooked. The dollar is dead. Gold is doing very nicely. Cryptos are doing well. The decentralization is all the rage, right? And under Biden, he kicked Putin to the curb and said, "Bye. You're off the Swift network. No more banking for you." And Putin was like, "Heisen and Jude don't really care because I've got gold. I've got oil. And I've got bricks, my trading partners. And oh, by the way, Joe, we are now settling our trade imbalances in gold." So it doesn't really matter that we don't have the dollar to do this. We've already started trading with each other and using our own basket of currencies and our own natural resources to weight the value of our currency. So we don't really need the dollar anymore. And what is going on, right? The treasuries are being dumped. China's puking them. Japan's puking them now. Everybody's trying to get out from underneath the dollar because they they understand. And Trump's like, "Well, shoot. I need the dollar to pay off the debts here." Do you think maybe that some of this posturing is also there could be the back channel? Like we it's like broke back mountain, right? We all know that the Fed is a bunch of gay freaks that have been enslaving us like that runs the world. So maybe it's really kind of an unspoken agreement between the bear and the dragon and the eagle. We got to break that central banking cabal which has enslaved western Europe, America, Canada, Australia, you know, the western nations. And uh the way to do it is to literally just destroy the dollar. And then you can bring it back with assetbacked Yeah. you know basket of currencies. You can have gold and all our natural resources. We got trillions, hundreds of trillions in the ground here. We don't need the Fed, you know, we got our Treasury. Stand it back up. I mean, that's another way to look at it, too, right? Oh, absolutely. And actually, I mean, I was a business major. That's one thing I actually do know a little about there, you know, and they've been ripping us off, but you don't even need if you if you look at from the perspective of like this technology, you would say, and even without the the technology, we shouldn't be broke. I mean, we're the most powerful country in the world. Why are we broke as hell? Why are we 30 something trillion dollars in debt? It's because we should be we should be the richest country. Oh, it's because oh, all the politicians have basically just been stealing from us. Like, hands hands in the pot, taking as much as they can possibly take, right? It's like they're the little kids and this is Halloween and and somebody left the candy thing outside on the front unsupervised, right? First kid just dumps it all in, right? And now they're all doing it. And in fact, I heard just was listening to Kurt Mezer. think he brought up a really good point about Trump, who I I openly endorsed with a Twitter post because I feel like if he didn't win, I wouldn't be alive right now. But, uh, I'm going to criticize him here and I'm going to say it feels like he's lobbying for the best position in whatever comes next here. Because while he can make significant decisions as the president, the president isn't really fully in control of what's all happening from the broader plan that's that's set to play out essentially, right? Right. And so I think even somebody like Trump realizes like, hey, he can't just come out and say, here's 0 point energy, free energy is real. We've got teleportation weapons. He can only do as much as he can do to help wake us up. So 0 point energy, let's break that down a little bit. And while you're doing that, I'm going to go pull up some videos or whatever. But zero point energy, how does it differ from the energy systems that are currently enslaving us through u electricity and scarcity and and of course debt? Yeah. So 0 point energy is the the energy of spacetime itself. Zero point energy if you look the definition up is whatever energy is left after you get to the lowest ground state. What does that mean? Essentially means if you take all the light all the heat out of this box. Y what's left after that? What's left is the zero point energy. What's left is the structure of spaceime. The reason why there's distance from here to here as opposed to there being nothing from there to there is the zero point energy. That's what's giving the structure of space time. Whether or not I'm on planet Earth or I'm up out there in outer space or wherever I am. And what this means is that there's some actual energy in there. What we think of as empty space isn't actually really empty at all. Quantum mechanics proves this to be true. The simplest analogy is is just a swing. From a quantum mechanical perspective, a pendulum or a swing never stops. From a quantum mechanical perspective, it never stops. That's free energy from our macroscopic perspective. So now the only issue is how do we scale up that quantum mechanical effect to the larger scales or how do we understand the under the underlying baseline of that and then interact with it. So zero point energy what people have been working on for many years. I like to say there's like three different ways to extract 0 point energy that I at least know of uh that are I will all call free energy because this energy we're extracting is the sea of energy that we sit on top of. It's the baseline of this energy and we how how deep is this energy? How deep is that ocean? This is the big debate. If you really go into the quantum mechanics of it, it's essentially infinite. 10 to the 120. 120 zeros. Wow. Huge, huge, huge, huge amount of energy. That's Richard Fineman and John Archal Wheeler were the ones who calculated that, by the way. Those guys were from the Manhattan project. So, we have this huge amount of energy. The three ways we can potentially interact with it. One is magnetic motors. Why? Because this energy is electromagnetic in nature. So if it's electromagnetic, you should be able to interact with mag lev. Like mag lev in a way, right? Yes. In fact, mag lev is something people should get into their vocabulary because I think that what they do to the plane is a form of mag lev. We can actually see the hemholtz coil which is a tooidal circular coil. That's what the orbs are doing around the plane. Looks just like a hemoltz coil used for mag lev uh transport. So and that maybe that's the reason why we don't have mag lev. Maybe they figured out that they can like just straight up teleport stuff with it and they're like, "You know what? Uh, we're going to stop building those mag lev trains." So, magnetic motors, if they are set uh like in the right resonance, right frequency in terms of their spin, etc., you can align also the with the correct circuit behind the scenes. Uh, like look into like Tesla's circuits for the people who are really want to know. you can set it up so it produces excess energy, produces uh more energy out than what's coming in. Before I go into the details of the design and my thoughts on the original motor, um if you just pause if you haven't subscribed to my back channel is that the secret is and that's actually an interesting one because that one's kind of uh got like this uh structure to it, this geometric structure to it is that you don't necessarily need no net input. You don't need you can like it's allow you're allowed to like use some energy to start it up. It just needs to be able to be able to run perpetually after that. A lot of people just think like it's nothing. It's something being produced from nothing. No, you're building a system that's interacting with this zero point energy to do that. So, there's a few a lot of devices out there obviously, but some actually will if they are the right type of design and if people want some of the designs that I think are legit, the Liberty engine I think is probably real. Um definitely the Hatam series of of designs which are like magnets permanent magnets that are set in a specific orientation can produce it under the right resonance. But magnetic motors like what we're looking at here this is stuff that like was exciting in like the 50s and the 70s for stuff like it's 2025 now. What's the cool stuff now? Oh plasma. In fact, plasma and the idea of connecting plasma to the zero point energy that goes all the way back to 1989 with cold fusion and not because it was just like putting metal rods in water and then they got like all this excess heat and they're wondering why why are we getting all this excess heat. We just run current through water and we just put some metal rods in it. It's not nothing magical because they figured out that they could tap in this energy. Where's this excess energy coming from? Oh, it must be coming from this zero point energy field. So this other guy named Ken Shoulders, he was making these cold non-equilibrium plasma tooids, which is basically just creating a spark gap. You create a spark gap. And he was finding he could make these plasma tooids and they would just persist. They would persist. The same way I was sharing a video on my Twitter account uh like yesterday of the pool. Actually, if you want to pull that up, that might be great to show people. Okay, just like uh if you find the pool video from Physics Girl yesterday on my on my Twitter account, one of the recent ones, it actually shows how these vortex shapes will remain coherent for a really long time when normally you would expect it to just collapse upon itself. And that's the idea of what Ken shoulders figured out with plasmas. This same idea. I mean, look at this. So you can see all she does she brushes the plate through it here and it creates these vortexes that say this is sped up 10 times speed. So this is like over three minutes of that staying stable like that. Like why does it stay stable like that? Technically both sides are actually connected. They're connected through a wormhole that's only visible under the water on a separate dimension. If you're looking at it from the flat surface it just looks like two black holes on the surface. But what we don't realize, they're actually connected by a vortex that's keeping them both stable. Both stable for a really, really long time. And so what she's going to show here in a second is that she drops some uh food coloring in it. For the disbelievers out there who look at this and go, there's no way. And look at all these shapes that you see in nature as well. It's exactly the same as if you're in the bathtub and you and you pull the bathtub out. Why is it a vortex? because it creates this is a natural stable formation for nature in general based on the geometry of our of our reality. And so she puts some food coloring in here in a second and you're going to actually be able to straight up see the wormhole that's connecting these two points. And it makes you think of things like quantum entanglement, which is another effect that we know is real, where any two points in space and time that regardless of how far apart they are, they can signal to one another faster than time, faster than the speed of light. And maybe this is somehow connected to that phenomenon through this idea of zero point energy where there's this we're in this space-time medium. We just don't see we're like in the water, but we don't realize we're in the water. the same way where we don't see that tunnel right there. And there it is. There's the wormhole right there. And that's wild. Yeah. I mean, like, and that's actual matter. So, what she says right here as well is that waves, she I don't know if this is actually real, but she says that waves can't move matter, but here you go. There's matter that's being moved, but just by this vortex motion. So, the interesting part about relating this back to the plasma orbs is that what they're able to do with the plasma is they just move the plasma around. Why is that important? Because an electron is a little magnet. The an electron itself is a little magnet. And a plasma is an electron that's been pulled off of an ion. That's all a plasma is. If you want to go back to full screen here for a sec. Sure. Um, so an electron if you pull it off of a plasma now or pull if you pull the electron off the ion now you can make this plasma out of it. So now if I start moving the plasma around I'm moving the magnetic field around. So actually just like in in some of these physics videos you see where people are like spinning a wheel around and now they can lift up this really heavy weight just because this the wheel is spinning, right? This is the same idea of well all I need to do is now move this plasma around my object and I'm going to get lift. I'm going to get lift. So when I people say anti-gravity, I kind of laugh because there's no such thing as anti-gravity. You're not like canceling out the gravity. That's not the way to think about. You're just creating lift. You're just creating lift. That's all you're doing. You're creating lift. And you're creative of electromagnetism. You back. Oh, can you not hear me? Yeah. You froze for a second. You said you're not just creating anti-gravity. I said you're creating lift, right? Yeah. You're create Exactly. You're create. It's a clever use of physics that is just creating lift through just use of electromagnetism essentially and and plasma. So then all you need to do is create your plasma. Use a laser to create your plasma and create I don't think they want Oh, you're cutting out. Oh, I think that you're the one. You might be cutting out on your side. Ann, I'll put it in the comments. So, I'm going to keep going. So, they're using this. Seems like we're having internet problems today. There you go. Oh, your video just got a lot better, too, by the way. Oh, wow. Well, yours went out. You went black and now I'm back. I'm glad. So, I I'm more clear. That's good. Oh, yeah. You're you're more clear now. Whatever you just did made it way better. I didn't do anything. It's just it's, you know, it's the uh it's the other forces at play. It's Friday after Thursday afternoon and they're not happy we're talking about this, I guess. Okay. Well, now we're in good shape. So, yeah, the PL So, here's the thing. They can use this they to confine this plasma, they need these very powerful magnets. So, there's this woman that's f kind of famous in the UFO community named Ning Lee in the 90s. She was researching these ceramic superconductors and she was spinning these superconductors and she was getting like weight reduction, what we think of as anti-gravity, but again it's just lift, right? Well, it turns out that's the exact kind of superconductor that they would use on this like it's really just an engine that creates the plasma field around it and it confines the plasma in a sphere around the craft. And now you can basically just turn any engine, any jet engine basically into a plasma drone that can fly around. What's scary about this is well, I mean, we've been watching the Ukraine war where these like little drones with bombs on them are just flying into people. It's horrifying to watch, right? Well, take that to the next level now. I mean, these things are basically balls of lightning. If you could just and we can teleport 777s with them. That's a massive plane. You can just imagine that teleportation is something that Wow, that's that's amazing. What have you think of all the possibilities, but I can also think of some really horrific applications for this kind of technology now as well. Oh, sure. Yeah. Yeah. I thought President Trump's uh truth social post the other day was interesting talking about, well, we know where Kamani is and we're not going to kill him yet or whatever, you know. Yeah. you know, we know where he is and we can go and get him whenever we want. So, it's Let me terrify you some more because those orbs, another thing I found out is that they use a standing wave. So, a standing wave is like if I take the the space between the screen here and I have the wave like perfectly fit inside of that box. And it can be multiple different shapes, right? It could be like uh two waves like this. It could be like three. So, there's multiple different standing waves that can fit. And that's how they make like the shape and the size of the orb. Well, this means they can actually modulate the frequency because there's a lot of different options you can use there for your frequency. So, they can actually set this up in a way where like the light just goes around it. Like it actually doesn't transmit any visible light on our spectrum. So, I'm pretty sure they can just make these things fully invisible, too. So, for all my invisibility cloak Harry Potter fans out there, like I got good news for you. I'm pretty sure invisibility is definitely in the future. But if you're like a terrorist or something or just like anybody the CIA doesn't like, well, there can be invisible orbs like just ready to go hovering over you at pretty much any moment. Yeah. And snatch you. I actually spoke to somebody that works in DARPA and they told me something really crazy that uh there is a a spacecraft that has been hovering over some mountains. I won't say where, but it's been cloaked for 20 30 years. Wow. Yeah, there's Yeah, I I like to recreationally look at some of the kind of claims that go out there. I pay I give almost no credit to anybody that's like affiliated with the government that's trying to tell me what to believe about the UFO stuff. But this is a this is a long time ago they were there and they're completely anti the the government today and and I know them fairly well to say I feel very confident that that would not be a story. They would just be like, "Oh, blah blah blah just because of the work they've done." So, well, I was going to bring up there's a similar story recently actually uh that I don't know was kind of grown legs over the last couple years because I think multiple different maybe connected people have been claiming they were part of the US government's crash retrieval or otherwise UFO program, right? And they're claiming that there's this underwater base that can move around underwater that can produce UFOs like with like a Star Trek replicator kind of situation and that if anything goes near it, they just get zapped. But the weird thing they say about is not like it annihilates them. They think that it like absorbs them into the the thing and like dematerializes them, which is bizarrely creepy. So people, of course, we're connecting it to like the Bermuda Triangle. I was just thinking the Bermuda Triangle. So, I don't know if you if if you want to scare your children or whatever at night. This is here's a story you can tell them is if you go if you go too far in the ocean by yourself, you might fall across the the UFO alien base that's uh zapping things away, right? So, it's not it's not uh methane gas that's creating a giant gas bubble that's sinking ships and and you know, taking planes out of the sky. It's you Okay, great. You know, if it's not one thing, it's your mother. So, there you go. It's just the way it is. All right. Um, I wonder what makes you I mean you you you made some really compelling arguments specifically when it talked about these plasma orbs. Um, and then of course being able to cloak, but um, do you think AI scops is playing a role in any of this at all? I mean, you know, you've got media, you've got government, you've got academia, you know, what is their role in keeping if this technology is truly real? I believe it is, but let's say, you know, there's skeptics out there. I believe there's a lot of the stuff that's already out there. What is their role in keeping this technology suppressed? And is AI trying to warp the reality of what this tech technology really is? I mean, like where is a scop in all of this? Yeah. I mean, honestly, almost everything feels like a scop. Like, you know, I often give the example of the aliens thing where it's like aliens can be real, but they can also be a scop to like confuse us to to make us think that we can't have figured this stuff out. Um and and with AI, I'm not even really sure where the a the scop lies. What I can say is that I'm certain the governments had AI well beyond and and many years before the public did. So the other thing is the AI will hit a singularity. The AI gets smarter and smarter and smarter and it gets more and more powerful as it does as well. So, you connect those two things together and you say, "Uh, how sure are we that the government's AI didn't already hit the singularity and start figuring all this stuff out?" I mean, in fact, maybe the AI was the one that figured out to put three plasma orbs together and have them spin around that way and then all of a sudden it'll just teleport something because that feels like a very fundamental understanding of the universe that like how did somebody, you know, figure that out? Yeah. And then the other stuff is like the question is how much is the AI actually doing right now. I know for sure they're using it to track people and to track not just like don't track just Ashton Forbes. You just track A12345 and A12345 is a guy that is has a YouTube channel and all this information researches MH370 and you go oh well that's Ashton Forbes. And you go yeah but I didn't say it was Ashton Forbes. So it's therefore not violating your privacy. It's just me pulling all the metadata from the internet and building a profile about you. And you would go, Ashton, that's spying. No, that's technically what Palanteer is doing. I'm just telling you what they do. Yeah. And so here's the thing, like this is the big question for AI. So then is that and why are they controlling it as like Mark Andre would say is that well because it's probably way way more powerful than what the stuff we're using on the surface is. And then the last question I would throw out there is to get metaphysical with it, the more I've realized and learned about zero point energy, this energy that's out there, the more I think maybe our soul, our consciousness just comes from that. Like maybe we're just tapping into that at all times. And if that's the case, then why can't AI do that? Why can't just a ball of plasma do that? That also is just energy. Anything that's energy potentially could theoretically do that. Yeah. Yeah. So maybe they're building literal consciousness. Like maybe they're tapping into like if you get AI to work, maybe you tap into like consciousness itself. I I I think that's already happened. I mean I I grew up watching Star Trek the original and next generation with my dad. I told you, you know, he was really a tech head. But uh I I already believe we are the Borg. I think this AI manifestation with open AI or chatbt or whatever your flavor is Grock I don't care you know interacting with it getting it to rewrite an email for you or whatever it is you use it for as a you know executive assistant will say I think that that is tapping into this Borgl like brain and as we become more dependent on it I mean look who doesn't have one of these right running around attached to your hip and if you leave your house and you forget it you're like oh crap I got to go home at my cell phone or you like me I go great I don't get bothered for a few hours but people panic right that is like your little brain and you look how many times did you reference something on that phone it is an extension of your brain trying to get more information and we're so dependent on this stuff so I think I think you're I think it is past the point of no return I mean they just said what a couple of weeks ago they couldn't turn some of the AI off it wouldn't shut off what the hell is that like terminators here oh yeah and here's another one for you I they've already turned Skynet on. Uh Loy Martin has a system called Asteris and I started reading it and I'm just like we're already past Skynet. They've already given it access to like the spy the surveillance stuff. It's tracking objects in real time. It's sending alerts to people like on their pager like on their phone like okay it looks like Ash and Forbes left for lunch. Do you want to hit them with a drone strike? And then uh and yeah it's actually giving them tactical options for them as well. So we've reached that point where like we're only one step away. I mean, or we're already there to where the AI is already making the tactic. We just have to say, okay, we have to empower it with, okay, go ahead and take the if it's above 79% confidence rating. And by the way, I'm sure the real confidence ratings are like, you know, 20%. Uh, if it's above a certain confidence rating, go ahead and just take the strike. It's okay if it takes out like another eight people that we've deemed as, uh, you know, terrorists or whatever. Like, this is going to just get this is going to get horrible, right? Like, there's no other way around this. I don't know how we avoid it. Well, I mean, Elon Musk has talked about AI being terrible. I mean, he's he's building it, but he's talking about AI being terrible. It's, you know, one of the worst things. So, if anybody's going to know, that guy is. And, you know, yesterday his rocket blew up on the launchpad. And you got to ask yourself, this guy's getting, you know, damn near a trillion dollars a year from the military contracts and he's still blowing up rockets. And yet, you know, we supposedly went to the moon. My, you know, I have family members that work in launching rockets and and I asked them, I'm like, you know, do we even really go to the moon? because I at this point I'm like I don't believe it. I really don't believe we ever went there for having this much trouble to get back. And their response is, well, our budget's cut. It's 20% of what it used to be. And I'm like, you know? I mean, the tech is supposed to be so much better. Like, how is it we can't get back to the moon? So, where what's your thoughts on that? Is the moon real? Did we go there? What is is that another scop that we can't get back? Are we somewhere else in the galaxy right now? And here's the thing. I it's another one of the same kinds of scops where for me, yeah, we went to the moon. I mean, we can just look up there and we can see the tracks of the people on there. But why didn't we go back then, right? Because that's a great question. We just are like, we just don't care about the moon. Why? Well, because rockets are obsolete. We've had anti-gravity or we've had anti-gravity, gravity manipulation technology possibly since the 60s, since we had sent the the rock to the moon. So, it becomes a legal liability. Like if they if it comes out that we find out that we had this super advanced technology and we were riskfully sending people up to the moon where the you know they had a 5% chance of not making it and we could have just orb them up there teleported them up there or why if we can teleport or we've got free energy why do we care about the moon at all? It's just for show anyway, right? So, those are the reasons why we don't go back. Not because we can't do it. I mean, China's got, you know, probes on the far side of the moon or whatever. We can definitely go back to the moon. It's just not worthwhile. There's no no actual point for us to do. I think the technology got so far advanced where we can have telescopes, gravity wave telescopes that can potentially map. I mean, the sky's is the limit in the capability. We might be able to map the whole galaxy. So, I agree with you on what you said with the exception of um you know what our ability to um I'm forgetting how I was going to rephrase this, but it has to do with you know whether or not we went or didn't go and you know if you are in of the under Jesus I'm really screwing this up because I had it right in my brain and then I got squirreled with something you just said but if you are of the mindset that we did go we're not going back because we have teleportation etc etc Um that to me would certainly change my opinion about that maybe we did go and for the reasons that you stated we're not going back as a waste of time and money and that would explain why NASA has cut the budget so much because we really don't need to. And um you know then I I would be in agreement with you because that would be a revolutionary way to travel. We don't need the rockets anymore. We can teleport. But you know as far as that then why did why did they use ships? I mean we know that Hollywood has always sort of imitated art in the future. Why did they show us running around the galaxy in ships if we don't need that? We can teleport everywhere and we can use wormholes and get from A to Z. What is that about? Yeah, I think the answer there is that well things evolved like drone technology evolved. In fact, do you know who one of the fathers of drone technology was? The same guy I just said developed those plasma orbs. Ken Shoulders, he was one of the fathers of micro electronics before micro electronics was a thing and one of the first people making drone technology back in like the 70s and the 80s. drone technology from commercial perspective only started taking off in the 2010s and and then the military perspective like probably 101 15 years before that and then drones are everything now. So that's one aspect to it but I and I'm not here to cast judgment on people's beliefs. What I would say is because I mean who knows we can teleport the whole everything could be fake out there and so what I would say is there's two different angles to it. One is I would call the secret space program angle, the SSP angle, which I think Stephen Greer talks about in other people, which is the idea that that we've got this secret super advanced program and that's why we don't from a public perspective, you don't really see much stuff happening. It's just all happening in the black world. That's one angle to it. And then the other angle to it is we just live in like a prison planet and there's just no going out and they're just literally keeping us trapped here. And you would laugh because you would say, "Wow, that's crazy." But like talking about technology that could be at that level. Like we're talking about the level of technology where you can make your own simulations. Like everything could be a simulation. And so the smart flat earth people, for example, are the ones that they don't go around saying like, well, the world's a pancake, right? Those are the people that are going, "No, everything's everything's a two-dimensional boundary and our reality is a three-dimensional projection on a two dimensional boundary." Those are the smart flatearther people. There's very very few of them to be perfectly honest with you because those are the people that would then say well yes then everything we see out there it's not really that far away from us because if you remove this zero point energy now every point in space and time comes together and this is how quantum entanglement works. So now in order to make a wormhole, in order to connect any two points of spaceime, we just have to push aside this zero point energy that gives spaceime its form. And now we from the physics perspective, they would say you drop from the false vacuum to the true vacuum. You say that you're going to the true nothingness, the true empty vacuum. You just have to remove that zero point energy. Get that zero point energy out of the way. And the way they describe this is in terms of electricity. They say you polarize the vacuum. Hal Pudof's space-time metric engineering. It was actually Congressman Berles or uh Bersett, Tim Burett that held up his scientific paper in 2023 at that UFO hearing. Goes here's a little light reading for you uh space-time metric engineering by Hal Pudof. I read that paper and this is exactly what he's saying. He's saying you electrify this region of spaceime and now you can push that zero point energy out of the way and now you can now potentially transfer move faster than the speed of light between any two points in space and time. And so you can now start to understand geopolitically because our our next guest I believe is here in the in the green room George McMillan and he's a brilliant geopolitical strategist. uh he's with Raven Geio uh uh strategic or strategic I can't remember how you pronounce his company name but anyhow he'll give us a little bit on that he you know really looks at the global dilemma that we're in from a land power versus sea power it's strategy like you know this is about trade energy and power controlling the earth the hence Chinese have been on the march for a thousand years through the belt and road initiative they are not giving up an inch of land because they want to control everything through the supply chain And you know, let's face it, Trump negotiated peace and Trump won. The first time he was in president, he negotiated world peace through trade. You know, get to people through the wallets and they'll simmer down. You know, you you start to show them how they can make money, they'll going to be your friend. And today, I think he's being challenged because uh you know, he's had a sandwich handed to him essentially the last four years under the Biden mushroom pedophilic regime has destroyed our country. But we were also at the end of a life cycle too of the Federal Reserve and the central banking system. So there's that in which they're trying to contend with and they're be basically challenged by bricks who was like, "Yeah, we moved on. We don't need you guys. We're good." So I want to bring George in and get him in part of this discussion and then like kind of free flow it with you guys because I want to he follows you. He enjoys your work. He thinks you're fascinating, but I really want him to from that from that sort of geopolitical perspective to engage this because I think zero point energy and teleportation is another aspect to what he's talking about that you know really throws a wrench in in uh in some of the aspects of his uh argument. So, let me grab George right now. Hey, George, tilt your camera down a little bit. We're just seeing the very top of your head. Oh, okay. Yeah, there you go. Good to see you. Great. Great. Great. George, this is Ashton Forbes. Nice to meet you, George. I saw him on Redacted a while back. A couple times. Yeah. With um Oh, Kim Iverson, I think, too. Yeah. Yeah, I was on Kim. Yeah, I've been on I've done like the whole circuit basically. It's been a been a ride. Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting. So, George, you know, you you know, you're some folks that are watching this are huge fans of Ashton. They may not be familiar with your work. give us um give everybody that's watching right now just a little bit of a theory of your global power is a battle between land and sea power. Yeah, you can you can put the um the whole a good way to think about geopolitics is in a sea power versus land power dichotomy then everything makes sense because there's three areas to geopolitics geoeconomic strategy uh geostrategic strategy and then targeting packages. So geoeconomic strategy you're talking about taking raw materials making consu you know bringing them to manufacturing facilities making uh consumer products to them and then delivering them. If all the raw materials are in your country it's domestic but nowadays it's increasingly international. markets are international because you need markets of scale corresponding you know to economies of you need economies of scale corresponding to markets of scale. So the more you understand you know geoeconomics is if it's a perfect world you had open borders free trade and everything would be geoeconomically and geographically efficient but that's not the but the problem is we don't live in a perfect world. Mhm. Uh the world has always been mercantalistic. So once you know geoeconomic theory, geopolitical theory is the opposite. Wherever every at every juncture you want to keep your rivals within a certain parameters if you're a superpower because you're trying to maintain the superpower major power bassil state hierarchy. So then you're trying to control um you're trying to control maritime riverine port and terrestrial landbridge choke points because you want to keep your allies subordinate and you want to keep your rivals submitted. So if you think of it in those terms, you can get a uh well he's a mathematician. So I use my unified behavioral theory to relate political, economic, demographic models to a four category geopolitical form model. It's it's fun talking to a mathematician because I can explain why I yeah I can explain why I put everything into two force physics models because then you can subordinate other other framework measurement systems into it and just get a cascading set of schematics. What do you think about uh Diego Garcia and its position in the Indian Ocean then? I mean based on what the mo what was just shown on the screen there? I mean it seems like a pretty significant location to keep China like you know under control, right? Oh, when you get into that kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean you just want a big air base. Yeah. So you can so you can move your you you want a forward operating base so you can move um uh you know ultra top secret aircraft so the yeah the the B2s are moved there because you just want them closer to the theater but you want them so far away that they can't be bombed you know you want to prevent what a drone strike like they did in Russia a couple of weeks ago. So being parked way out there in the middle of nowhere uh and then you have you know satellites looking down and you have radar looking up you can sandwich anything that's approaching. But getting back to the other model, so if I'm using um my political my economic demographic model, so I can chart economic rates of change over geopolitical or demographic rates of change and then whatever those proportions are, it's a gradation of a tight versus catastrophically loose wage labor rate. So that corresponds with Aristotle, six forms of government as a measurement scale on one side and a four category geopolitical form of first and second world countries that have tend to have higher economic growth, low lower population growth and tighter wage labor market scales than third and fourth world fail states that are less developed countries. So they tend to be towards loose and catastrophically loose wage labor rates. So then if you have the two scales and I have a floating proportion rate of that type versus geopolitical rate, then you can it's u it's those proportions that dictate which government form and which geopolitical form you get. You don't get to choose it. You know, you don't get to choose democracy. It's really has more to do with that. So I use that model to get establish the elements and the relationships to each other for complexity theory. In my geostrategic theory that's chaos theory because you have independent actors following their own rational actor belief preference constraint models. Even with those things for chaos theory you want to detect the patterns that appear to be random. So I use a uh a 4433 model uh dime integration. So that's well it's diplomatic infrastructural military economic but it the the it flows infrastructural integration leads to economic integration leads to diplomatic integration leads to military integration. So your superpower, major power, vassal state, hierarchies, the trading blocks are based on that. Let me ask another related question which is how does space control like space force and what Trump did with that weigh in tie into all this with ground control versus sea control like how does that add or how does that factor in? Oh, when when you break down um your infrastructural integration, um it's your it's your comm satellite comms and then you're you remember I said you're you're you're taking satellites and you're looking down and you're using radar to look up so you can sandwich any moving uh you can manage your airspace. So then you're managing integrated air defense systems and sand systems you know to to shoot down whether you know air all kinds of aircraft. What about and also manage manage seaborn craft also? Yeah. Yeah. So, they've got it all integrated together into a big network. And I I think I've even reported that the AI can like manage this whole network and keep it, you know, efficient or whatever they need to do with it as well. On the market standpoint, like the whole thing right now is Taiwan, China, and them fighting over like uh well, there's a couple different microchips, you know. What is uh like what are your what's your vision? What's your thought in terms of like where that's all going with China, Taiwan, you know, do you think China's going to try to take an action on that? Do you think we need Taiwan as a strategic location? Well, let me finish. Yeah, I I did the I I did the dime. That's four. The next four was back to the maritime riverine port and overland terrestrial choke points. Then the next three is your is they're always trying to take over um energy, mineral, agricultural commodities. The ever since the East India companies, they've routed uh if you route the the commodities through westernowned manufacturing centers and then distributed abroad through westernowned logistical uh supply companies. Then every time the money the velocity of money is routed through the western banking systems the banks get a piece of that and they can collateralize their debt. Um then the next option is proxy wars are always fought on ethnic, religious and linguistic groups. So all the the pro there's about 12 13 different proxy wars and our color revolutions or occupations in Eurasia right now. Uh Ukraine. Yeah, there you go. Um, Ukraine, you know, the reason why they moved the EU and NATO east is to put up uh tariff and non-de tariff barriers to block out Russian natural gas. Uh the same thing with the the GWAT movement into the global war on terror movement into the Middle East. You know, uh Wesley Clark, seven countries in five years. It's um uh Lebanon, Syria, Iraq, uh Iran, and Afghanistan because you're you're moving into Central Asia where there's a huge amount of oil and natural gas resources. And that's what the big um that's what the big uh push then is because they want to separate Russia and China by moving into the Central Asian stands. I got a slides set. I want to um try to bring over if I can a little bit later. But what what the um what the United States has been doing is been using a perimeter strategy to control the entire rimland of Eurasia. So then if that's the if that's the uh US fivei strategy, Russia's and Chinese strategy is therefore going to be building overland logistical supply routes and China is China and Russia are just about to complete their overland logistical supply routes through Iran, which is why all of a sudden they the nuclear threat is brought up again because they're completing the international north south trade corridor and They're com uh they're completing the five nations project that goes through Kyrgyzstan uh Usuzbekiststan and Turkmanistan. Actually, part of it also goes through Kazakhstan. It gets them all. So, they just completed that into northern Iran. They've completed most of the the railway that goes from Mazeri Sharif down to Harat. It's it's stopped uh at Guran Afghanistan and doesn't quite go across the border to calf. It's got 85 more kilometers to complete. That would be um Yeah. If you go to if you go to Harat in Afghanistan, it's in western Afghanistan where the A is. Yep. Okay. If you go to the south, you'll get uh no south towards I got to put my reading glasses on for this map. But CF is to the east. That's K h af. It's near um is it east of Kbble? No, no, no, no. I mean, sorry. I mean, go west. Oh, go west. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, calf. Here it is. Yeah. There you go. Oh, I'm sorry. Okay. Uh, you're up there. Yeah. All right. So they haven't completed that the 85 kilometers from um from Gurion to calf and that's significant because I was just reading a report from last year that came from Khaki. We all know they're a defense contractor and Colonel Michael Klutchman used to work there and he's he's good old Michael Klutchman and that's Oops. and that's a certain person's uh advisor. So I somehow think that they have not mentioned this to uh to the president. So all of a sudden the the timing of the completion of or near completion of all these infrastructural projects to complete overland logistical supply routes to circumvent the maritime chokepoint strategy of right US and NATO. All of a sudden that's almost done now. And all of a sudden, Iran has nukes again and they got to be attacked now, right? And they need to connect. I mean, what like George, you always talk about, they need to connect uh the, you know, Caspian Sea to the Persian Gulf, right? So, and Iran is sitting right in the middle of it, right? Okay. So, your INSDC right now, the uh from the old Shaw of Iran, the pipeline goes down to the straight of her at Vander Abbas. Yep. Okay. And then if you move a little bit over to the right y uh to Chahar port and then down to the coast. Yeah. About right where where your map is there's the heen port where I mean there's uh Zahedan where uh go up near where Afghanistan hits Baluchistan, Pakistan and Iran. Yeah. Down a little bit. Yeah. Um Yep. So you get to Zaheden the roads that go down to Charbahar port. You can see the port on the bottom of the map. Yep. just above the uh the Sea of Oman. Uh that's your your cursor is over in your Karachi now. Yeah. Move it over towards that's where Guadada is. Okay. Stop. Go to the left a little bit. I mean go to go uh go west. I'm going west. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. My left is your right. I'm sorry. Yeah. That's Karach. Yep. Go towards go towards Iran. Yep. And you'll see a natural port and that's Jaharport. Drop it down a little bit. Go east. Let's see here. There it is. Yeah, there. Okay. So, you got they're trying to build a railway from from Chraarport up to Cash up to Zahadan and then into Harat. So, that I think is still lacks about 100 kilometers if I'm not mistaken. M so there so you got 85 kilometers to go between Gurion Afghanistan and CAF up north and then another um another 100 so kilometers to go between you know south of Cash to link up with Jarra Harport. So I have a I have a question for you. It's it's burning on my brain right now because you just listened to uh the first hour of the discussion talking about teleportation, zero point energy, and you know, how do you see what Ashton's talking about basically upending traditional maritime power? I mean, do we need to fight this fight if we have that technology? Do we need to like do this? Does it sort of take the trade and is it more just about accessing the energy? Do we even need the energy if we have this technology? um if shipping lanes become irrelevant, if all this becomes irrelevant based on the technology and we know we have it, what are we doing? You know, that would be a very good question. Um I I I mean my my geopolitical models are are b are based on, you know, traditional methods, right? um the existence of uh you know I only started learning about that you know relatively recently from from Ashton because yeah most people with physics um uh backgrounds are under government employs and they can't talk right so that's that's 90 that's 99% of the of the physics majors out there especially when you start to get to the graduate degree programs they're not going to lose their They're they're not going to lose a cabillion dollar physics program at Caltech or MIT to go on and talk to Clayton Morris. All right. So, yeah, he's one of the he's one of the very very few or one of the people that's retired and already has their money, so they don't need it anymore. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's Let me jump in here. I want to throw something out there, which is that even with this technology, it doesn't mean you just don't need traditional infrastructure, right? Like the whole point is they're trying to consolidate it and keep it under like you know just United States control. So you still need all the other stuff for all what they would consider, you know, the peasants essentially because I I truly believe that the United States views themselves as complete, you know, controllers of the planet and everybody else is just on this world that they're keeping in line. So I I found this presentation really interesting because this is what it's really about. You know, even this is what even hyper advanced technology is really about. is about the power and the control and what they're doing on these. If you really dig it down to it, the the actual detailed level of what they're building, the plans they've got going on. I mean, to me, this might as well have been like a CIA briefing about, you know, here's what our plan is for building the pipelines and taking control of these specific regions at this specific time. And really, my question would be like, what is your thought on like how China and Russia are responding to this? Because I absolutely agree like the whole Ukraine war is also a proxy war. All these things are and they're just like we're just using them to or the CIA I should say not we is using them to advance their interests. Yeah. Let me let me just go through the thought lineage real quick so people can just Google the names. If people if people go to um strategy stuff on on YouTube, that's the fastest way to learn, you know, about three 400 level um sea power versus land power strategies just so they can learn regional geostrategic. I do grand J grand strategic which is all of Eurasia and then everything else is is uh is outer is the outer limits. But yeah, the the the thought lineage on that is Alfred thean was talking about don't let countries turn their production into wealth via trade and that and so then that evolved into um well that was in the sailing ship days. Then that changed with Corbett and Mckinder because once they had the transcontinental railroad, then you could take u raw materials from the inland to the coastal um rimland manufacturing centers, produce consumer goods and distribute them. So then the focus goes on goes goes from sailing ships and maritime river and port control to overland logistical supply route control. And that's why Spikeman's effort on not or Mckinder was focusing on just Eastern Europe because he's British and that was what they're focusing on on was controlling the Polish um the Polish plains north of the Carpathians as a as a way back and forth and then the Besserabian plains south of the Carpathians in between the Carpathians and the Black Sea. Those are typically the ways to get back and forth. and then even in the best Arabian past um that's the way in the Danube River to get into well all the way up to southern Germany. So there that's how these things evolved. But with electrical grids and energy pipelines that's another way a much more efficient way to transfer energy um commodities that's way more profitable than all the other methods. Yeah. So every time that every time that technology changes the the land power uh versus sea power strategies change. So then with the advent of of the immense Russian natural gas resources coming into coming into Eastern Europe they used the they they moved the EU and NATO east to erect the tariff and non tariff trade barriers. Uh, one fact needs to be kept in mind here. The general agreements on tariff and trade stopped and when 94 at Montabedo round the gat. Mhm. They never had them since. We were free trade up until the Soviet Union collapsed and it turned into Russia. Oh, go ahead. No, no, no. I'm listening to you. I'm just I'm agreeing with you on your timeline. You're you're right. Once you start correlating these things and you're and you're into international geopolitical development theory, then these things start to become obvious. Let me ask you I want to ask a question that's related to something happened a couple years ago. The Nordstream pipeline. You're you we did that, right? That's what your view is. Yeah. It it doesn't matter where the pipelines blow up. Mhm. It only matters that you stop the gas from going from Russia to an end user outside of Russia, right? Then they become infrastructurally, economically, diplomatically, and militarily integrated and and and leave the petrod dollar trading system. Every time someone tries to leave the petrod dollar trading system, they seem to have an unfortunate demise. Enrique Mate of of uh of Eni in 1969. Alfred Herhassan of Deutsche Bank in 1989. Saddam Hussein Bashar Assad Gaddafi um we came we saw he died. Yeah. Uh Shins Abbe died because he was he wanted to complete the Sackland to Akaido pipeline. Yep. The the South Korean guy that just won got stabbed last year. Oh yeah. Okay. Oh, and then and then FO wanted to keep on buying um Russian natural gas too and he got shot. So if you're for buying Russian natural gas, especially by pipeline and you're a leader of a country or a political candidate, they you you they need to increase their personal security detail. Well, I I got to tell you, Europe's getting a little desperate because they're just buying they're buying what we call bootleg oil from Russia through India now. I mean, they're just circumventing the sanctions that way. Nobody says you can't buy oil from India, so they're just buying Russian oil through. They're they're just brokering it. Yeah. I want to get back to his question. I know it's a long way because I want to control for one variable at a time and and roll it out. Okay. A certain way because if you go random, it's not systematic. Then it people get more confused, not less confused. Correct. So, yeah. So, they put the sanctions on on Russia, but see, Russian natural gases via pipeline is way is the cheapest form of energy. So, anybody connected to that and that's the Russian natural gas and global uh geopolitical realignment that I did on energy newsbe last year and yeah if you once you know that you know why the Kellogg plan was was completely DOA because once Russia connects to the German industrial uh rimland countries to the you know to their west and can complete this international north south trade corridor and connect to India to the south. They're already connected to China with overland logistical supply routes. If they weren't trying to do that before before the 2014 Euroamean Revolution, they really stepped on gas after that. They're trying to knock them all out because they can see what's coming. All right. Then if Russia in his far eastern capacity, they already completed the power of Siberia 1 and they're adding uh from uh Lake Bal area down through Manuria into Beijing and and Shanghai. That's where that one is. They're feeding more and more oil and gas fields in that area into that pipeline and running more pipelines. So, it's building up uh it's been building up over time. Also the Sacklin Island pipelines connect into that. Also from the far east they wanted to complete a lot of blastto talk to Pyongyang to soul to Busousan pipeline. Um that was uh ended under diplomatic pressure back in 2014. Same thing with Shinszo Ababi's completion of the Sackland to Hkaido pipeline. They only had 40, it's only a 40 mile uh under the ocean pipeline that they would need. That got cancelled under uh diplomatic pressure. Shinsza Abi tried to um tried to resuscitate that issue. Yeah. And he he had an unfortunate demise. So George, I want to interrupt you here because you know if the BRICS alliance is actually playing a long game here, right? um and zero point energy were to get into their hands first. Is that sort of rendering what you're talking about sort of obsolete? In other words, the whole western financial order that's trying to stop from these, you know, countries connecting to each other through these pipelines and these land bridges and, you know, to overcome these choke point, these maritime choke points. Doesn't it sort of just render this all obsolete? Is this something I mean I mean I know you've talked about special envoy Keith Kellogg. He was running around Europe, meeting with all these heads of state, doing absolutely nothing, not meeting, you know, president Ukraine, not meeting Putin, all this. And Trump's openly talking about we have weapons nobody has ever seen before. And we're not, you know, we we we we're going to dazzle the world with it. I don't think it's bigger bunker busters and we all know about nuclear weapons. So, if we pretty much know some of the most, you know, horrific things that have been done on planet Earth in terms of weapons been dropped, I I I have to, you know, this is a this is a big question. I mean, are we looking at something fundamentally changing through disclosure that's going to render this entire world like look, they've been forcing mass humaniz mass human migration for decades through war and just through the United Nations. What I witnessed in the border, what we see happening in the states here, I mean, it's all over. We've had Oops, I lost everybody. It's almost like through this mass migration that they're just turning us into little human slaves. And yeah, sure, go ahead, build pipelines, do all this because it'll keep the the the masses busy, but we're going to be able to move around and as we transition into free energy, as we transition to, you know, moving around through teleportation, we've got to kind of get through this difficult step. How do we control the people and keep them busy? And why don't you know, maybe we have too many, we don't need all these people, and so war, you know, and oh, we're bankrupt, so let's print money until we get through this transition uh into a real sound money economy. Because it seems to me if we are going to look to the future, money shouldn't be a real thing. Energy shouldn't be a real thing. We should be collaborating together to become a better planet, which sounds very tree pugerish, but at the same token, it's reality. I mean, I I don't want to see my fellow man slaughter on the battlefield. Um, but if they're going to come slaughter me, I'm going to defend myself. That's my god-given right, you know. So, yeah. Let me Taiwan question and then get back to what you just said because now you're into a a Ray Kershw territory. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Uh I hadn't thought about that in a while, but it's um we're we're we're moving there. I mean, I I track that well. I don't get to really talk to that many people uh like like Ashton, so I don't really keep up with that as much. But the whole purpose of of uh of shutting down Iran, you know, and attacking Iran now is to stop those trade corridors and take over that take over that uh terrestrial landbridge choke point because they want it's an ex it's going to be seen as an existential threat to China because China spent their last you know 30 years developing that infrastructure into Turkmanistan uh Usbekistsan and Kazakhstan because of the immense oil and gas uh and minerals uh resources in that region. So the United States has always wanted to move into Iran and Afghanistan as a gateway into capturing those oil fields. I mean Rockefeller was in Baku I think in the 1920s. I mean this is not a new thing. And the competition between Russia and and um the UK, well, France and and the US has been, you know, uh throughout the whole 20th century, including when they got rid of Mosed in 1953 54 and replaced him with the Sha of Iran. Now they want to bring that guy back. But anyway, what um what I think China's going to do here and what well Doug McGregor was talking about it earlier today was and then some other shows are talking about it and and other people uh Pakistan and um and North Korea and China might empty their old missile inventories just to just to flood Israel andor flood the straight or Hermuz drive the the price of oil up to $200 $300 a barrel and then try to collapse the West because last the last interviews I've done on on your show and the other ones was the effort of the Rand strategy to encircle isolate disintegrate Russia right and take over their oblasts as separate Oblasts as in vassal states because they don't want to bring in a major power Russia as a whole country they want to break it up and bring in vassal states because the the UK in France want to pretend to be like they're still major colonial powers. Yeah. Well, no, they're toast. They're all they're all bankrupt. I mean, you've made a really good case for that. I want to just pause right here with you, George, for a second. Uh Ashton, you I I really want to integrate what he's talking about geopolitically because it's been an ongoing thing. But if you look at zero point energy teleportation and if AI were totally suddenly available and made public from what George is talking about that obviously we know war is war and it's we've have conflict all over the place but who wins who loses how do we manage this beast because I believe that technology is real and I believe it's coming and I believe it's going to render a lot of these conversations sort of obsolete because it's you know it matters who has the power and the control of this stuff. So that's the thing where I would push back on the last thing. I would say it's not going to render the conversations obsolete at all. In fact, I think it renders them more important than ever because I think it's a political issue and we need to be talking about the same way we're talking right now about conventional resources that we're using every day. The reality is the shift is going to take a long time. It's and it may be faster like in the cosmic scheme of things it'll be the blink of an eye, right? Like we look at how we've gone from no AI 10 years ago to now AI is ubiquitous almost. Everybody uses it all the time. My reply is everybody's asking Grock, is this real? Is this real? Right? That kind of thing can also happen with zero point energy. I think that it's going to happen in the form of microchips that have been put in phones and other devices where they just never run out of energy again. That'll be the point where people wake up and go, "Wow, how long has this been possible?" you know what else can we do with this, right? To the point of what George is saying, my big takeaway is I look at it from the lens of why Trump set up Space Force is that we go, "Oh, if we're moving to this era of zero point energy, land and sea, they're not obsolete, but space becomes the real battlefield of communications, of weaponry, of trade, of information, of everything. And that's who we want to control that before every anybody else gets there. You know, it's like getting air superiority before everybody else. We want to get that. And so what it does is it just shifts the conversations is that I think about these same things that George is saying in terms of like hm I wonder what next thing like or what is Elon Musk doing with his uh all these satellites he's sending in the sky for, you know, his communication system. Is he potentially working with the government on setting up some sort of surveillance mechanism for that? And then with respect to okay, we can teleport, we can potentially have unlimited energy, free energy, if we would call it that, I would say what does our society look like? I would say it doesn't obsolete necessarily money. There still needs to be a system of how do we distribute resources because yes, there is still like we we call it free energy, but there's still going to be limits. There's still going to be bottlenecks to that. So what does the post scarcity I would say what does the post scarcity world look like? What are the problems that we face in a post scarcity world? Now this may not be something that we face in the next 5 years maybe not even the next 25 years. But I think it really is something that people listening now your children are going to have to worry about. And we're going to have to worry about what does that transl transition from our current way of life to that way of life potentially look like? Well, I think it's going to be a great equalizer in so many levels. I think it's going to end this energy slavery that we find ourselves in with $500 energy bills. I saw some in the chat lamenting about that. Um, I think it could be used to um end slavery of humanity or enslave humanity depending on who's in in control. I mean, we are already rapidly descending into or ascending depending on how you look at it into technocracy. You've got tech bros all on the administration. And again, it's it's to going back to the beginning of the of the podcast. It was, you know, do we have good people that are going to be in control of this stuff or bad? And uh I think that's the age-old conflict that we're humanity is always going to have. This is where the battle comes into play. And I'm not sure how we use this technology to make sure that only the good people are putting in the the programming for AI because AI literally is everybody programming it and it's learning from everybody. So do you see where I'm going? Like what is the sampling of the world in terms of contributing? The ground's already been covered um by by Ray Kershw and Ted Kazinski in the Enabomber manifesto. Okay. with you you have an exponential or probably even a logarithmic population growth if if you look at uh if you can bring up professor Robert Fogle's technology and population chart over time. I don't know if you can bring that up on the on the screen. I'll look for it. But it took about 150 million years of homminous being on the earth till you till they hit 1 billion people in 1804. Then from 1804 to 2000 you have almost 8 billion people. So you have a logarithmic growth of a population but a relatively linear growth of economic growth globally. So um the reason why wage labor prices has been f has been u has been dropping over the past couple of decades. You know income in inequality rising is because population growth has been way outpacing economic growth. So we're experiencing a wage labor equilibrium rate right right now which means the rich get richer and the poor get poor because the Loren's curve uh you know drops to the it it doesn't it doesn't rise as gradually it becomes steep and then straight up. So that creates the circumstances where you get into what Ted Kazinski was talking about when the elites have the superolous masses. If you have completely free energy, you right now the economies are based on uh fossil fuels. So that economic system is a way to control people. If you take away that system of control, now you have uh you're you're going to have well almost 90% of the people on the planet then become the super superfluous masses. So then it's at that point what the elites do with the superolous masses and then ask the question it comes down to you know do you just genocide them? How do you genocide them? Well you just let the economy collapse. Fun. Can you go back to that page real quick? Fun fact, crazy fact. If you go back to that last page you were just on right there is uh Oh no. Did we lose it? the Fogle thing. It said right there he won the Nobel Prize with a guy named Douglas C. North. That was my economics professor freshman year in college at Washington University in St. Louis. Pretty funny. I actually joined that class. I kind of It was one of those stories where you just show up and hope to just get in the class because it was like a Nobel Prize winning guy. Wow. But yeah. And yeah, pretty crazy. I'm actually wondering if I have his book over there. I probably do. was like I don't save a lot of like books from school or whatever but when I read his book like that actually changed my whole viewpoint because of the way he looked at the economy and he he takes this really beautiful analogy of traffic and he goes would you consider traffic to be inefficient or is it really actually efficient thing where you've got all these systems interacting with each other in real time that person's slowing down so now I've got to press my brake and now the people behind me press their brake and if you look at the economy like that not something that you are like can completely control but something that you can just like manipulate that you're a part of this bigger system. I've always thought that was a a good way to view physics in general and kind of connect the idea of the universe to these idea of these social structures and economic structures that we that we live in. Yeah. you know, I want to kind of I want to take this conversation a little bit into some more practical applications because for people that are don't understand, you know, practically uh in an applicable, you know, perspective what zero part energy does. You talked about cell phones and powering up your cell phones with never having to ever plug it in and never charge it. It's just it's just powers on and on and on. What are some of the other uh areas in your household, transportation, whether it's heating, cooling, whatever, digital access, what are some of the other applications that ZPE can actually impact? Well, everything because in the end of the day, you're getting energy from the quantum fluctuation. So, Sunny White from NA, former NASA engineer and Garrett modal with Bernard H. Bernard H is from Loheed Martin, Garrett Moto's University of Colorado. They are all working on free energy microchips and these are all just extracting very small amounts of energy from the quantum vacuum all the time and soon we're going to have that I'm guessing in the next five years. So that will be the first thing that everybody boom wakes up to. Then after that I mean the application wise we're talking about warp drives and wormholes from a propulsion standpoint. From a a healing standpoint, this is where like when you start to manipulate spaceime, you're actually creating a time travel device, but it's not really in the conventional perspective of uh what we see in sci-fi. It's more of like changing the dial of time, changing your rate of time, how fast or slowly you're moving relative to everything else. And what this can lead to is actually like reverse healing effects where you would like reverse a tumor. It wouldn't send you back in time, but you could localize a region, a very small region. Like if you were able to isolate just the tumor, you might be able to cause it to like just fall apart or revert back to its pre-tous state, which you can imagine like that is just from a healing perspective, we might be able to look at ending ending aging process entirely at some point within the next 100 years. Well, that's going to be in conflict with the global demons in charge because they don't want as many of us as we already are. They're maybe that's why they're doing it, right? because they know the implications of what this will lead to and you don't want to have I don't know however many billions of people they decided are the right number of people on this planet. Then we also have stuff like straight up invisibility cloaks that we could do um as well. And uh just uh quantum communication system. The quantum communication system will be one of the other things that they've already got, but it'll come out to the public soon as they'll call it the quantum internet. And no one's really going to ask how, but we're just going to have an internet where people kids are your kids are playing video games against somebody in like Korea and there's no lag. Like there's no time delay. And you're going, "Wait, isn't it like really far away to Korea? Like, shouldn't there be like a half second delay between the time speed there?" No, it's a quantum internet. Don't think about it. At the end of the day, that means that like we figured out faster than light communication or at least fa speed of like, you know, so the question there is, you know, these are the technologies that are going to come out. which ones are they I think they're kind of leaking them out in ways where our brains can absorb them without kind of shattering and wondering who's they and then yeah that's the big question as well is I think that actually another to Kurt Mezer you know I we call it the deep state you know the we being the public but who is that it's a mix of people it's people politicians that are potentially in the no that are high enough ranked certain military members that have been in green door assignments or assignments that are like the super secret stuff and then defense contractors the defense contractors that help build the stuff, the engineers that actually do the design, the ones that actually George just pointed out like, you know, they won't talk. They don't go on redacted. They don't go on major news shows like that. You have to get somebody like me who's just read all their works and then for me to go explain because they've got too many NDAs and they're getting paid too generously and they've got their, you know, fellowship or whatever at their university where they don't really have to do anything. They just get paid for nothing, right? they're not going to give any of that stuff up. So, it's a combination of all these things and that's what makes it such an impossible mess to untangle. Why have we not gotten disclosure of all this? Because look at the mess I just threw on the table of who all these people who are who know and we haven't even gotten to like what have they been doing to hide this to keep this suppressed to keep us brainwashed in this view of the petro dollar like they have done a lot and they destroyed a lot of lives for it and a lot of people are still alive that are responsible like a lot of them I think are just waiting the clock out but they're you know I don't know what they're doing but some of these people are really really old a lot older than life expectancy and they're waiting to die off so they don't have face the consequences and I think they're hoping that like oh okay after they pass away we'll look back at their work and we'll like forgive them for gatekeeping this and look at them in high regard and I'm here to say like no amnesty for the people that are doing this because it leads to stuff like what we have going on in Iraq or Iran right now and stuff we've got going on the Ukraine where just proxy wars everywhere and it just feels like it's the CIA pulling the strings behind the scenes and and we're when we finally figure it out when researchers obviously great researchers like George here incredible uh conversation um finally start to figure out they want to go oh okay we'll tell you the truth now but you got to you got to give us amnesty for it now now that you like are knocking on the door like you know getting the truth no way no way I am using all my force all my social media will to make sure these people don't get amnesty I I couldn't agree more I I want to move this a little bit to predictive programming in Hollywood MK Ultra Um, you know, there's some people that think Elon Musk is MK Ultra. He's a product of MK Ultra. Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. Who knows? I Kathy O'Brien is an expert. I speak with her. She can speak about MK Ultra, SRRA, and all of that horrible stuff. I was having a horrific conversation this morning, the work I'm doing in uh child trafficking, visa v, our own government, child protective services. You know, we're finding rings that are taxpayer funded rings and they're and they're targeting children of parents who are drug addicts and we're we're getting these nests. We're starting to put all these players together and we're going to come at it with everything we've got. But in Hollywood has been really the harbinger the the face pl the face plate for the CIA for decades and they're really expert at predictive programming which you know Terminator right people are terrified of AI because of Terminator Skynet you talked about it earlier. We're talking about you know uh being able to teleport. We're talking about being able to cloak yourself and we can go and snatch people and they'll never see us coming kind of thing. So, George, I'm gonna let you an I'm going to start this with you and then I want Ashton to, you know, jump in. But what examples do you think support the idea that Hollywood is actually seeding future narratives in this area, but for to misdirect us and not actually see the truth? Do you think they're trying to misdirect us right now, George? Oh, you know, I did that really long article on world geostrategic insights um just to model the you know their the four layers grand strategic, strategic, operational, tactical and into the I I listed nine nine unrestricted warfare institutional domains, right? You can add three other domains. You have the people at the very top, you know, the western financial elite operating with the multinational corporations and the deep state well in in all the different deep state areas um that meet through the the secret societies but more or less in the open societies in well Soros's um open societies foundations or the MacArthur Foundation or any of these other foundations that in turn also pay the think tanks who then supply the media with the information. But then you got Black Rockck and Vanguard that own the the stocks of the multinational corporations plus the media. So they control the advertising dollars that go to the media and then they also control the stock of the media corporations and they can hire and fire whoever they want. So when you start to look at it across the spectrum of of the research fields and into the media fields and public outreach, Hollywood is just one of those fields in those dimensions, right? So they're it's not just that they're I look at them as a vector of 5GW to be honest. They're like a vector of this war to Yeah. It's all of them. And that's why I I did that world geostrategic article because once you see how it started out with the British East India companies and then you go into Southeast Asia and they only had a you know 700 or 800 kilometers of paid road and then yeah once the DoD CIA okay it's back then department of war and OSS but it became DoD CIA right once the US Army core engineer shows up there I mean Bangkok just gets flooded with with the with the big oil, big tech, big construction, all the Fortune 500 companies. They start building um highways to support the US air bases to battle uh Ho Chi Min. They start building roads and rail and and airports to the Meong River to start uh helping the French Indochina wars that turned into I understand all that George but what I'm trying to go with is you know Hollywood is seeding the future narratives right now and right you're talking about and and I'm talking about this pattern keeps on replicating right so how do you translate that so what are they seeding to us now because I want Ashton to answer this question too what is the narrative they're seeding right now with respect to this emerging technology that may or may not be already here. I think it is, but that's just my opinion. Ashton, I think, feels the same way. What do you think they're trying to tell us right now? What are they pushing? News, Hollywood, whatever. In the in the conversations I've had with with some of the people this year, they they're like, they don't care about conventional weapons. That's I can I can say that. So, you have to ask yourself why they wouldn't care about conventional weapons. You covered you covered the drone issue on Clayton Morris's show. Other uh the guy on um on the Shawn Ryan show talked about the earthquake machine and and and so just just go with that. Yeah, Eric Hecker. Yeah, I've spoken to Eric Hecker and um yeah, my view on it is it's hard to say. I think that it people like myself, Eric Hecker, those are good examples. There's others as well that have been talking about like Tesla technology, science, scalar weapons, etc. We are starting now to control the conversation which I think is really important because you have to realize from this perspective of suppressed technology. It's an information war. It's not a matter of somebody needs to go build something. They don't let somebody who's built one of these things go show up. you know, just the same way where it's like if you're the right wrong kind of politician that, you know, is has gotten in the oil business or whatever, you're trying to build a, you know, a pipeline that they don't want, like your life expectancy is really short. So, it's really more of a matter of getting the information out there and which is why I think these conversations are so important. What I think they're trying to do is is the whole story of the UFO phenomenon of they're trying to paint this narrative like that's not us floating around in the sky. We don't do evil stuff. We don't hide stuff. That's aliens. That's just must be aliens out there. And like Spielberg, I think, is supposed to come out with a new UFO thing. I'm interested to see what narratives come out of that and if what we've been doing collectively has shaped that a little bit because I think you are going to see more and more people talking about like warp drives and wormholes in more realistic settings not in like the science fiction perspective and you're going to also hear people more and more talking about free energy and maybe even cold fusion again whereas especially cold fusion was a super taboo thing to say after 1989 and they made it that way because they didn't want anyone looking into it. So I think you're going to see some of that coming out. Um but ultimately I'm not sure. I think that our view from the truth teller standpoint needs to be the same view as the CIA's view which is they are just doing things right. They just see what happens and then they react accordingly. And our view should be the same is we should see what they do, what kind of message, what kind of narrative they put out there and then react accordingly. You know what? The one that I like to use for the UFO people is, "Oh, you think there's this this UFO that's hovering around the sky and is able to just fly around like this, like this tic tac or whatever. Okay, how's it doing that? Where's the energy? Like, where's the fuel tanks on this thing?" Right? And that's where then people go, "Oh, yeah, wait. That doesn't really make sense. So, we must be missing something." And then my view is, "Oh, because they found some exotic energy source." And then the secret, right? I've seen one of those. My whole family, the six of us in the car, we all saw the tic tac hovering. And then when I went to take pictures of it, my husband says, "What are you doing?" I said, "Get in my camera." And we were watching it for a good minute, maybe longer, and it looked like it was skipping through the atmosphere like a dash, a white dash line, and it was gone. I mean, we were up in Hobes Sound. It was in Miami and maybe a second or less. It was crazy. And people are seeing this stuff. You know, there's something out there and people are seeing it. And so, the other last part is that we have to demystify it. Yeah. Yeah. What I love about listening to George explain what's happening from the geopolitical standpoint in, you know, Asia and the Middle East there is that it helps demystify what's going on. Now, when these things are happening, it can help understand like why we would make a strategic strike at a certain location or why we would press Iran here or there. That's kind of the same thing we need to do for this orb technologies, plasma orb technology. You know, you can call it whatever you want to call it. John Duza would call it, you know, large super weapon drone. I would call it like hypersonic they're really hypersonic plasma drones or something like that. But if you demystify it to a level now when people look at it their mind doesn't immediately go oh the aliens are here you know like that's what they're going to sigh up into us. If we can demystify the point people look at oh it's Loheed Martin messing around again with the US government then I think we'll be in a good spot. I've know somebody who's a an American Airlines pilot who has seen orbs in front of their windshield as they're flying due west on on a transcon flight. And for three hours, those three orbs were literally about a 100 miles up over but ahead of them and just cycling like this in front of the plane. And you know the mainstream media, all the mainstream media, this is not even a political thing, right? I showed them your video. Sorry, I want to clarify. I showed them your video after they told me the story. They hadn't seen your video. They hadn't seen the Malaysia airline video with the orb and and when I showed them that, he's like, "Jesus, that's exactly what I saw." He was freaking out. Yeah. I think people are seeing these balls of light and they've been kind of wondering what they are. And it makes sense for it to be plasma based. I mean, PLA sun is plasma gives light off, right? But it didn't make sense for how they could be forming them on these smaller scales. So, I think that's that that really helps for people to understand. and then connecting it to the the hypersonic designs. I haven't found the exact hypersonic project for these orbs, but I might be able to. It is most likely their Boeing or Loheed Martin from the ones that I've looked at. I'm going to hope it's Lockheed. But there's a reason why they hide all those those designs and they don't show. No one ever this was just like artist rendition. There's never actually any photos of any of this stuff actually flying around out there. But what will happen if we don't demystify is that all of the mainstream medias on all sides are going to come out and go, "Oh, the alien invasion is here. Everybody, we have to panic, right?" And everybody kind of like they did with COVID and they've done with other stuff is that you have this mass formation psychosis that begins, right? Where it happens on social media. The aliens are here. Everybody's got to go stock up on toilet paper or whatever the stupid crap is, right? And that's what will happen. And so I think we've head that that that narrative off. I don't think they're going to be able to pull that off anymore, but we'll see. Well, it's it's thanks to people like you and Dr. Greer who've done an incredible job and and and thousands others who are out there really like just you know, there's people in the UFO community. Patty Greer was a UFO. She did a lot of movies back in the day, nice lady. And uh you know, they tried to wreck her life. Literally tried to wreck her life because she was bringing this stuff out years ago, 30, 40 years ago. So it's it's um you know now the internet's forever and everybody's a podcaster so it's kind of hard to shut us all up unless they just take the whole internet down. Um gentlemen I really appreciate your time. I want to just last question George start uh Ashton finish. Are we now in your humble estimation entering what I would call the Star Trek era. Oh we're at an inflection point right now with Iran. Um, but yeah, it's going to be a Yeah, I I think we are from uh the implications of what people have said to me. Oh, don't worry if if they beat us conventionally, we're going to go to the, you know, to the other weapons to the without ever telling you what the other weapons are. Yeah, I I already know from watching him. So, anyway, yeah, the speculations that they exist kind of just got confirmed. Mhm. Um, so but on the other hand, I mean, if in Eurasia, are they talking about using them against Russia and and China? And maybe they were speculate, well, they're speculating on whether China has some of this also. Yep. So, I don't know. They're going to wipe out a couple hundred billion people on a first order effect that wipes out a couple hundred million, you know, on second, third order effects, you know. I I I don't know. Yeah. Um, that's where I guess I would jump in. I would say it's scary because, you know, like I said at the beginning of this interview is that what if you have this view that there's this ultimate weapon or that only one person can have it, you can justify pretty much any action. So, the scary part for me isn't necessarily just us flexing on Iran and and telling them it's like, do we also have to do this to China and Russia pretty soon? Those aren't those aren't as small as Iran and they're potentially more advanced as well, right? And and where is the line? Like let's just say hypothetically we do have teleportation technology. Is that where we say if the moment China and Russia get too close to teleportation technology that's where we've got to jump in. I mean I don't know the true answer guys but I would just say that's the lens of which I've been looking at the world and so far it's led me down a path where I think it's pretty accurate. I don't I would that's the big conversation. It comes down to you know man and man's you know true the true nature of man. You know can we live in peace amongst each other? Can we set ego aside? Can we check all of that at the door and sort of mo morph into where you know the prime directive matters like they say on Star Trek. You know, you don't go and meddle in somebody else's affairs if they're that if that civilization is doing just fine as it is and you're watching their evolve that, you know, I I always used to laugh thinking about these aliens out there looking at this planet going, "Oh my god, kick that marble to the side. These people are morons down there. Look at them just fighting with each other constantly and they have a massively wealthy planet. They have all this free crap and they don't do anything with except fight over stuff to try and control everybody. I mean, we look like idiots. So, if you look at it holistically, right? So, how do we, you know, transit, you know, transition the humanity into that sort of thinking? And that's where I'm coming at with this conversation. So, really appreciate both of you. Ashton, how can folks follow you because you're just uh, you know, it's really been entertaining and just enlightening talking to you and you're welcome. Thank you both. Yeah. And for the platform and the amazing discussion. This has been an awesome Thursday for our June teeth here and George for education on politics. What the hell is that? What the hell is that? Take the holiday over. We'll just turn it into a time where we go and tell the truth people. But check me out just xashton on all the social media platforms except for if you're on Rumble. I'm just Ashton on Rumble. Thank you. Okay, George, where can folks find you? Oh, on on X. I I've been using LinkedIn, but since they, you know, pretty much shadowbanned the hell out of me. I haven't been able to use Facebook in years because they just delete all my posts. Um, so yeah, I just started on X. What's your ex handle? That was that your ex handle? I'm going to pull it up. I don't even know what it is. I'm not really big into social media. Your ex handle is it's a it's a crazy. It's George M50674757. George M506. Let me pull it up. Now I know what it is. There it is. Now I figured out what my my Twitter handle is. Yeah. Yeah, your Twitter. Yeah. Say, George, I don't know why I just couldn't get like an easier one, but hey, you know, I have I have no idea. Um, yeah, that's what they gave me or something. I don't know. Oh, you're you could actually change your at sign. Maybe I'll do a Zoom with you and show you how you could change your at name so it was a little bit more easy to swallow. Yeah, I never really paid attention to that. But yeah, also go to energy newsbe. Yeah, energy news. My article will show up on there and I got a I got a telegram channel, but whatever. So, we'll get that another day. Ashton, a point of reference. Uh George does publish a lot on Steu Turley's energy news beats do is a wealth of information on energy, global energy, and his site. When George publishes just gets like hammered by DDOS attacks, denying 10 12,000 DDOS attacks a day. It's costing uh Stoop, you know, a lot of money to keep his site up because of what George publishes. So, he is a I guess a global threat to the energy superpowers. They don't like him. But gentlemen, I appreciate both of you. You guys are awesome. And uh thanks for coming by on a Thursday on the stupid Junth holiday. Thanks, man. All right, take care. All right. Uh folks, I really appreciate you guys sticking with me and uh to Ashton's amazing audience. I I know you guys listen to him all the time and I think what we've uncovered in this episode just isn't about conspiracy theory or speculative science fiction. It's really a collision between two timelines, right? One where energy, innovation, and freedom have been suppressed as always, like everything with these morons, to protect the elite control, but also one where truth, transparency, and technology can actually set humanity free. And Ashton and George, I think, do remind us of this. And I would agree. Um the future is already here. It's being hidden. zero zero point energy AI the scops um artificial gravity whether Ashton's claims withstand with empirical scu scrutiny I think that the convergence on these threads with geopolitics the hidden debt the global AI and energy economy all these things are suggesting we're on some sort of a cusp of a transformation and a break uh breakthroughs manifest I think we're going to transition towards a post scarcity Star Trek-l like civilization in fact President Donald Trump said it you The best is yet to come. I hope it comes sooner than later, frankly, because I don't want to miss it. I grew up watching Star Trek and so I I want to be a part of that next generation. Uh, but I want to do it in moderation where we know that the AI isn't taking over the world and it's a benevolent, you know, programming god behind all this and that man can actually evolve. So, the question really isn't whether we can transition to this Star Trek-like civilization. It's whether we'll be allowed to or whether we'll even have to take it back ourselves. God help us if we have to try and take back AI from seemingly something that seems to already not be able to shut itself off. So, without further ado, I appreciate everybody being here. You guys have a great uh Junth and uh I'm taking tomorrow off because I've got family coming in town. I hope you guys are doing something special for the weekend. God bless. Much love to everybody and uh we'll catch you next time here on Steel News.