Charles Chase SPEAKS Lockheed Martin & Compact Fusion Reactor

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# Charles Chase SPEAKS Lockheed Martin & Compact Fusion Reactor Malaysian 370 contact 12 decimal 970. [Music] >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. [Music] Oh, [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, Vishnu. was trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him. Takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds. Come on, man. Please, Streamyard, get your [ __ ] together. Streamyard, fix your software. It's not me. Okay, guys. Sorry about that. I'm sure you can hear me now. Thank you very much, guys. I appreciate you guys being here. Um, we've got a big one tonight, guys. We are going to be reviewing Charles Chase. He was interviewed on uh Tim Ventura. So, imagine my surprise yesterday where I'm at work and all of a sudden I see on YouTube pop up Charles Chase interview with Tim Venturo. If you haven't been paying attention to what's been going on the last few weeks, I have found this guy Charles Chase who's a fellow at Lockheed Martin Skunk Works who seems to have been like the heir to Ben Rich. I mean, they overlapped at the skunk works. They did. And we found out that he's the guy that literally developed the compact fusion reactor for Loheed Martin. like he's the guy that convinced the CXOs and he's also turns out he's the guy that has a patent for the coherent matter wave beam which is like what we think they need for the plane to teleport the plane. So, we find this guy, then we find his AP advanced propulsion or alternate propulsion and energy conference and it's from 2022 and it's got all of the all of the scientists that we've been talking about in it. Garrett Modell's there, Sunonny White's chilling there, they're all doing presentations. We got George Hathaway and then we find this guy Paul Tibido as well and he's got a different free energy device that made a lot of hoopla. So we find all this next thing you know Tim Ventura is interviewing him like what am I looking at right here? So, I first have to address and react to just seeing this in my absolute surprise because I thought there's no way in heck he's going to ever do any interviews with anybody. I mean, I pinged him on LinkedIn and he told me that he was basically working on I I've said this multiple times, Star Trek replicator. Like, that's the next level of the matter wave beam is that you turn it into a replicator. Star Trek replicator. And I told you guys, he messaged me back and that's how I um that's what I thought of his message, but I also sent him an email. I'm fully transparent here. I sent Charles Chase an email. I'm not going to read it, but it was basically like, "Hey man, you're really awesome, but did you make these orbs that teleported MH370?" And I didn't get a response. Interpret it how you will. I interpret it as he knows what those orbs are, what they're doing. Maybe he made them, maybe somebody else made them, but he knows what they are. And he knows they're connected to nuclear weapons. He knows they're connected to nuclear weapons. I actually think that that shouldn't be surprising for anybody out there. Like this idea that this stuff is connected to nuclear weapons. All the UFO topics been kind of connected to nukes. um any explosion over like a megat ton or something like that is technically considered a nuke. So or a nuclear weapon or something like that. So I don't know why it's a why it should be surprising to anybody. In fact, I think that once you realize that this is all connected to nukes, everything makes a lot more sense. Why is there so much secrecy? Why are they gatekeeping this technology and these energy sources? Oh, well, it's all connected to nukes. Fusions connected to nukes, the teleportation's connected to nukes, the orbs themselves. It all comes from theories around nukes. So, let's not waste any more time. I want to jump right into this interview. Watch it together, absorb it together. We're going to come in like three minutes into the interview because it does the introductions, but you guys know, you know, uh, you know, I say this jokingly, of course, but Charles Chase is the uh BP uh TG guys, the BP TG. Okay, black project throat goat. Okay, this is I have never seen a resume of somebody where I was like more certain that this guy knows all the secrets that are out there. He's going to confirm it in the interview here for us right now. Spoiler alert. But I'm more I'm more convinced that he's connected than I am of like Hal Pudof. The reason being Hal Pudof has all the right connections. He's more connected on the spooky side. But you need like resources to actually build this stuff. And not only does Loheed Martin have those resources, Charles Chase is the guy that is getting the CXOs to allocate the resources on this magical technology. That's exactly the kind of guy you need to build these orbs. The orbs in the MH370 videos are not just, oh, some guy built them in their garage. No, it has to come from a major defense contractor. Okay, let's let's listen. So let me begin by asking what led you to transition from skunk works to founding the UNLAB. >> Yeah. So you know at the at the skunk works I um I founded and I ran uh the revolutionary technology programs organization. So our job was to develop the technologies at the tip of the tip of that spear. And so, you know, our team worked on any sort of uh technology that we thought would have a significant difference for uh Loheed Martin systems and um you know, so that was really exciting. And so, but the the team uh we were kind of like a startup inside the skunk works itself, I would say. And uh but it it was going uh super strong, right? Our our fusion program was uh fully supported. Um, you know, >> okay, I hate to interrupt already, but he says they were the tip of the spear within the skunk works, his whatever advanced program. They're basically like a startup within the skunk works. He also is being asked right off the bat, why would you switch? Why would you leave Lockheed Martin? I want you guys to think about this. Why do you guys think Charles Chase left Loheed Martin? Why? He's going to answer the question in a moment, but that's a great question. Like, you know, you could have kept working for Loheed Martin. There's no way they were like kicking you out the door. Like, you're a legend. Guaranteed. You you built the you built their compact fusion reactor. And then right there at the end, he's bringing up right away. He's bringing up he's not even prompted. He's bringing up the compact fusion reactor right here. He's bringing it up. He's not afraid of it, but he's going to say something else about it. So, put put your answers in the chat for why you think Charles Chase left Lockheed. >> A bunch of different other technologies we were doing were, you know, coming to fruition. uh we had transitioned several things to uh recently to Loheed products and I had taken on a new role which was uh mining the entire Loheed Martin Corporation for technologies that would be moonshots things that make a significant difference and that can you know change change the world essentially that you know that's always been my job and my responsibility uh there. >> Okay. Wow. What was his job and responsibility to mine all of Lheed Martin for moonshots? We can tell from the context what moonshots means. Moonshots means figure out how to build UFOs. Basically, look through all of Loheed Martin's crazy technologies that they've got buried, cold fusion, whatever, right? And then figure out how to turn that into something amazing like a compact fusion reactor. So, you find out, oh, we've got this flying saucer or whatever that we dug up or the government gave us. Let's figure out how to do some anti-gravity, a little bit of fusion from nuke programs. Let's mix this all together. And now we've got a compact fusion reactor. Now we've got some orbs that can fly around. I'm just speaking hypothetically here. The fact that his job was to be the guy to go do that, he's 100% he should be the one testifying. This is the person who should be testifying to Congress. If I don't see Charles Chase testifying to Congress the next UFO hearing, I'm gonna just burn the thing to the ground like critically on social media critically because it's a sham. Unless you're talking to the guy who's like literally the resume says he's the guy that's figuring out the magic technologies, you're not really talking to the right people. I don't want to hear about how many alien species there are. I want to hear about how Loheed Martin's Charles Chase built some magical orb technology that can teleport planes. That's what I want to hear about >> at the skunk works. And you know, and I had that opportunity to mine the entire corporation for technologies. And um you know, I kind of had done what I could do. Um and it all was super positive, but I knew there was more uh that I could work on and more that I could make happen. And so, you know, I retired and and started the UNLAB uh along with my my partner Kate. and uh you know and so we've been uh fairly successful as far as you know my our goal is remains exactly the same is to develop breakthroughs that can help the world but um you know do it really without much of a profit motive or no profit motive. >> Wow. Whoever said money you were wrong. Actually he left Loheed Martin because he wanted to bring these technologies out without a profit motive. Charles Chase, I wanted to hate you so much, sir. Chat, time to crash out probably. I wanted to hate Charles Chase so much. I figured he's a Loheed Martin guy. He's gatekeeping technologies. But now I look at this, I go, he's just a normal guy and he did some amazing things, but unfortunately they're proprietary because Loheed Martin owns them because they owned him. And now he's like, "Hey, I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to do my best to get this information out there." And the reason why I do believe him is that he's doing the exact same thing that I'm doing. You get to a point where you realize you can't pro you can't convince people and you really shouldn't even try. It's not worth your energy to go around trying to convince people of magical technology that they their minds can't even comprehend. You know, it's not a waste good use of your energy. what it is a good use for your energy is highlighting the people that are already doing it. And what was Charles Chase doing in his 2022 presentations? He was highlighting all the free energy devices that he knew worked. And he knows they work. Chat, he knows. Like I said before, one of the things I said about this guy is that he's not having Sunny White and Paul Tibido and Garrett Mell come on because he like thinks their technology might work. He's doing it because he knows it works and he's trying to boost them along. So, props to Charles Chase legitimately like he's shot up this scale of engineers that I respect even though he guaranteed 100% again knows what the orbs are and what the orbs are doing. >> That was actually what I kind of picked up when I went through the UNLAB website and I will put links in the show notes to all of this. I strongly recommend that people visit your website. Again, I'm going to put links into some of the presentations that you've done. You have some absolutely remarkable material and as I was reading through the website, what I saw with OnLab is you have a much broader, more diverse vision now than what Lockheed is typically focused on, right? Which is stuff like applied aerospace science and engineering, you know, aircraft and engine design, radar and stealth, weapon systems and ECM, and propulsion technologies. At ONLAB, you're still working with propulsion, but you're also doing more fundamental research into energy and physics, as well as providing fellowships to budding artists and scientists and developing technologies that have a more humanistic goal of making the world a better place. So, you're able to pursue more diversity now, right? Okay. Okay. Okay. I hate to be this guy, but when Tim Ventur is like, I was going through your website and checking out all the amazing presentations, bro. What are you talking about? I was doing that. I'm the one that got made that website super popular and because somebody on social media sent it to me and I started looking through it and I went, "Holy [ __ ] this is crazy." And I did how many different It's like three streams just on those presentations. In fact, we need to do more because those presentations are amazing. How do you not bring up the fact that like, oh, do you know this guy Ashton Forbes on social media who's been going mega viral who has like 300,000 followers? He's been saying your name. And by the way, that's how Tim Ventura found out about Charles. I mean, he knew Charles Chase, but he's like clearly riding the wave of the popularity to like interview him, right? But isn't it just weird like nobody wants to mention my name? How am I that scary of a guy? If I was just some lunatic making up some fake story, would it you would like be like, "Hey, you know that Ashen Forbes guy? He thinks that uh you know, he's thinks that you're some kind of super mad scientist genius that figured out teleportation. Huh? Isn't that so silly?" And then they would laugh about it. The reason why they don't do that is because they know the [ __ ] I'm talking about. The the stuff I'm exposing, they know it's real. They know it's real. They can't laugh at it because they'd be laughing at their own research. Clayton Morris does. And actually, so much respect to Clayton Morris because he's like a really smart guy and I'm saying the craziest [ __ ] out there. Craziest stuff out there. But he's met me in person and stuff like that. So, you know, I guess he knows I'm not bullshitting him. And I think he's just convinced by the way of the evidence like many other people are. They know there's stuff going on out there. They know there's stuff going on out there. It makes the most sense to them that the government's got magical plasma orbs flying around cuz they do. Last thing I'll say before we jump right back into this is that I'm not 100% convinced that Lockheed Martin made the orbs. I'm sure that they were connected to it and they know about it because I've learned that these defense contractors are just intermingled with the Air Force and intelligence agencies. But technically, the Air Force might be able to make these orbs themselves. The military might be able to produce these themselves. Now, they probably outsource it to the defense contractors, but there's some possibility that the Air Force built the orbs themselves and the orbs are Air Force and the Gorgon Stairs Air Force and the MQ9's are Air Force. Certainly possible. Okay, more Charles. This is amazing, guys. Wait, this this response right here. Pay attention. >> Yeah. So it that's kind of interesting because for example the uh fusion program and and I'll say most of the programs that uh the locked and I worked on you know I'm not free to discuss you know what what those are you know because of various reasons but um you know the fusion program uh the reason we were working on that was to make an airplane fly for um for a long time right and so developing a compact fusion source for that was what we were after but um what he keeps bringing up the fusion program and he's saying we're trying to make an airplane fly for a really long time. But we know they're not trying to make it fly for a really long time. They're trying to make it fly forever. They're trying to make it fly forever. Where's the Loheed Martin compact fusion reactor? Right here. Fusion is a much safer option. Next generation of airplanes that doesn't rely on fuel and can just stay aloft. Unlimited range, unlimited endurance. Unlimited range, unlimited endurance right there. But there he just says it though. He says, "I can't talk about the stuff I did at Loheed Martin." And he can't talk about the fusion reactor. Guys, what the hell is happening right now? Where is my Puliter prize? Why is Congress not demanding Charles Chase? Whatever they got to do, subpoena him, pull out the law. I'm not a lawyer. Get the man to testify. They have a compact fusion reactor. Isn't that enough? That's enough. That's enough justification to barge down the door and get the fusion reactor. Are we saying that like literally fusion reactors are like it's okay to hide a fusion reactor from the world? You have a working fusion reactor, but you're just allowed to just hide that from the world. That's enough, right? where we can like figure that out. Like nobody is denying they have one. Comp Charles Chase is saying I have it. I'm not allowed to talk about it. His resume says that it was successful. It literally publicly went dark in 2018 2019. That was six years ago. Seven years ago. They're clearly not planning on giving us the fusion reactor. They've had seven years to tell the truth and they're hiding it. Is free energy for the world. not enough reason to like have the FBI barging down the doors of a company stealing take their their servers and investigate them. Meanwhile, we're going to do a UFO hearing about how many different arguing about how many different species of aliens are visiting us with zero evidence, by the way. Zero evidence. Just literally hopes and dreams. Hopes and dreams say that maybe there's seven kinds of aliens. No, maybe there's six. They're all fighting over us. Um, Loheed Martin has a working compact fusion reactor that they built for unlimited spa flight. Can we get some of that? Actually, just insane what we're listening to right here. He's not denying any of it. We also talked about how that would also provide energy for everyone and would help the world, right? And so, um, yeah. So, you know those >> provide energy for everyone. Help the world. Can we do some of that? Can we Hey, Loheed Martin, if you're watching right now, can we help the world and provide energy for everyone? It's been seven years. You think we could uh have some of the technology just literally hiding from us? And don't give me some [ __ ] about the government is hiding it. Just release a paper about it. Just release a scientific paper. say, "Here's our beta of one where we've got our magic ball of plasma that just floats around. And by the way, it's so efficient that it's just free energy forever. Can you just do that? It'll be pretty hard for the government to hide it after you release a paper like that. I'm so sick of all the [ __ ] excuses. It's national security. I have some NDAs. Loheed Martin didn't make enough money this quarter. Sorry. No free energy for the world for you today. Thank you, Zack Dagger, by the way, for this huge donation, brother. Appreciate you. Wow, that's a that's a giant one for a Friday, guys. Thank you very much. I appreciate that. Okay, we'll let him keep going. >> Uh, you know, now we don't have so much of that dual use, although if you notice, a lot of my funding comes from Office of Naval Research, DARPA. So, you know, with any technology, there's going to be uh multiple uses. >> I'm sorry. Did Did he just say that most of his money comes from Office of Naval Research and DARPA? Guys, who do you think? Like, this man's like the Bruce Wayne of Black Project Technology. There's not going to be anybody else on his level. I guarantee you they all know who Charles Chase is. They all do. Make this man famous. Make this man, look at these glasses. He was built for fame. He looks like John Elton or Elton John. is there's you know positive good uses but you can also use any technology pretty much for uh you know war and defense. So um you know that that that's always there. >> He's just saying it. He's like you can always use like he was just talking about the fusion reactor flying forever and he's going well we could give everybody unlimited energy forever but you can use it for war. So sorry. Oh you wanted some free energy. Sorry. We're going to go blow up some more some more brown people. Sorry. Their morals don't don't uh don't mix with ours. Jesus, chat. I ever Every time I think I can't get more jaded by this world. It just there's an old saying like when you think you're at the bottom, the bottom of the barrel drops out. That's us every day. That's us every day, chat. Well, at the UNLab, do you have primary focus areas right now? Again, from going through the videos and looking at some of the past speaking engagements that you've done, like one of the big ones that I picked up was vacuum energy as as how that applies to both propulsion and electrical generation. That was exciting to me. But you've executed fundamental research grants for DARPA, DSO, again, Office of Naval Research, Limitless Space Institute, and you have these university collaborations in place. Have those relationships helped define your focus areas? is are they pushing you in a specific direction in terms of overriding big projects that Unlab is built around right now? >> Yeah. So I I would say uh it's more the technology that drives the projects uh versus the other way around. So it's really what you know what is possible you know and sometimes what's the adjacent possible so what are the different pieces that can come together to make something new and you know again with that focus on um you know what's good for mankind what's good for the planet what's good for the biome you know so with that that focus on there and um yeah so so you know like you mentioned a great example of our one of our focus areas is generating propellantless propulsion which has been a holy grail for you know a long time and very controversial and and um you know and um you know maybe scientifically controversial I would say um >> chat these people need me chat I didn't realize how bad these engineers some they they need the anger translator they don't have one is Charles Chase talking about here propellantless propulsion he's talking about EM drive Google Ashton on on Twitter for bold predictions and you're going to see one of those bold predictions says EM drive is real. How do I know it's real? Cuz space isn't empty, folks. EM drive is real. Warp drives are real. Wormholes are real. It's all real physics. And here's Charles Chase is going, "One of the things that we're looking into is EM drive." I know it's pretty controversial, but we're still looking into it. Bro, what do you mean you know it's real? You know it's real. You've worked at Loheed Martin and you know Loheed Martin already had that figured out like 30 years ago. How are they so afraid to just say the truth? They're terrified to just like be bold about their claims. This is where they need someone like me to be like, "Dude, EM drives real. We've had it figured out. You're an idiot that doesn't understand physics if you don't realize how it's possible." Oh, my second law. But the first and second laws of thermodynamics. Yeah. Well, you don't realize we're in an equilibrium and we can break make an asymmetry in that equilibrium and we can use that, right? Just like how we can harvest energy from a waterfall. Does anybody say like, "Oh, you can't harvest energy from a waterfall. That would break the laws of thermodynamics." No, they don't say that. We we make dams and hydroelectric power create an asymmetry. Okay, here we go. Because the fundamental conservation laws would say that propellantless propulsion, you know, really isn't possible. But um you know, so that that's an example of a technology that would have a huge impact and um you know, it's something I've been working on for probably 20 years starting back in my time at at Lockheed and and on to now. And so I think we've really um >> he just says it. I've been working on it for 20 years. Well, okay. What was 20 years ago? The early 2000s. Yes. Back at his time at Lockheed. Loheed Martin has this stuff. I mean, I think like is Congressman Berles out there or Luna or whoever literally just give me access to Loheed Martin's databases. I don't even need 24 hours or Sierra Nevada Corporation. I can literally take down a multinational billion dollar corporation with the information that we have. We can literally take these companies down. I know how databases work. I can find the [ __ ] they're hiding. 100% I can find it. >> Come up with an approach that's going to work. >> Um, >> if it's okay, let me dig into that a little bit in terms of that propulsion research. Uh, one project that you mentioned to me was an NSF grant working on propellantless propulsion attempting to move the quantum vacuum in a preferential way using asymmetric nanoructures or dodes. And when you describe that, it reminds me a bit of Dr. Charles Bueller and Andrew Rigman's basically their explanation for asymmetrical capacitance propulsion, something they're working on over at Exodus Technologies, right? Or you could take that back and say maybe a variant on the old befield brown technology. Do you is is this related in any way? >> Oh, you know, it might be, you know, because we we use asymmetry, >> chat, I can't I can't with Charles Chase. He gets asked, is this is this related this asymmetry? Is this related to the Bfield Brown effect of asymmetrical capacitors? Well, it might be related. It might be related to that. It's like if I asked him like, hey, is this technology related to Tesla? He's like, I don't know. Maybe it might be related to Tesla. Bro, you know it's related to the Bfield Brown effect. You know this is all related to Tesla. You know all this. This is what I'm talking I'm getting really good at reading some of these people and it's great when you know that somebody knows you know because you see that like how they act. They downplay everything, right? Eric W. Davis does this as well. He downplays everything. He's almost to the degree of being a debunker. He'll be like, "Well, the public literature says that that's not feasibly possible." He's like, "But I know secretly behind the scenes that I already did it." It's like these people, dude, this is how they act. It's crazy. >> Uh both in nanoructures, so create asymmetric nanoructures like optical cavities that are different sizes, um different materials and uh the theory that we've developed which is based on just standard quantum theory and standard electromagnetics. So no no new physics. It's uh you know actually the same formulism that people uh use to um develop the kasmir force and you know and predict what the kasmir force is. So u the lift shits approach we're using that approach to um predict forces and and yeah we get forces from nanoructures that are asymmetric. Um and then >> I like how he has to be like oh and it's not any new physics guys. It's like you have to give a little quick HJ to all the academics out there. It's not new physics. We're not we're not redoing the laws of physics. We're just using the same formulations, the same equations, right? Because all they did was they just unified electromagnetism and gravity. That's it. That's all they did. So, you just take the equations, you find a way to fit them together, boom, turns out, yeah, plank's constant all connected to this. You know, those are small forces akin to the size of a casmir force. Um but then by using a resonant tunneling diode uh which is another asymmetric structure we can generate um what we're predicting are fairly large forces uh because there's a greater asymmetry there. So okay tunneling di resonant tunneling dodes. I'm pretty sure those dodes were the same thing Paul Tibido was talking about. Isn't it? Somebody had to correct me. I'm too many different science things in my head right now. Resonant tunneling dodes. He's saying, "Okay, Casemir effect, the force is too small." Everybody always comes at me, "The Casemir effect, the force is too small. You can't pull enough energy out of the Casemir effect." Well, now we say, "Well," and what do I always say in response? I say, "It's an engineering problem. Once you've proven the concept, once you've proven that space is not empty, it's just an engineering problem." And here's the engineering solution. Your boy the goat coming with the engineering solution out of nowhere. You should be listening to every word coming out of this man's mouth. Resonant tunneling diodes will amplify the effect. Much more powerful effect. If Charles Chase says it, I already know it's true. this idea of asymmetry whether it's from a potential difference in the resonant tunneling diode or just uh asymmetry in geometry and material um you know a lot of people have been pursuing that sort of asymmetry for generating forces like you mentioned way back to uh Biffield Brown and you know Brown's work with the the asymmetric capacitors that people really like talking about and you know it's it's hard to know what what you know he really measured and did but >> you know so Charles Buer's work is Another example of an asymmetric kind of capacitor configuration. >> Charles Buer, shout out chat. Charles Buer, shout out. Charles Buer was on Glenn Beck right after I was on Glen Beck and everyone was hammering it because I was saying EM Drive is real, chat. EM Drive is real. Charles Buer probably knows. I feel like the NASA guys are like 5050. Some of them are just too NPCish, >> you know? There's other companies out there like I think Hover Incorporated. There's uh EVO. I believe there there's different companies out there that are have these asymmetric structures that are claiming that they're um you know that are measuring forces. >> Oh, EVO. >> You know those measurements I know what EVO is, chat. EVO is one of the other EM drives. EVO. IVO is what it is. EVO. It's not EVO. It's IVO. EVO is the one that I was talking about recently, chat. remember like 6 months ago I said one of the EM drives was supposed to be tested at the end of 2024 and it had a malfunction or maybe it was end of 2023. It had a malfunction but they didn't announce it till like four or five months later. They said, "Oh, the test just didn't work. Sorry, we weren't able to test it. They were supposed to test the EM drive in outer space and it it just had a malfunction and just didn't work. Didn't get to test it out." That was the IVO people, the EVO people. That's who Charles Chase or how uh what Charles Chase is talking about right here. So, Charles Chase knows all the EM drive companies as well. He knows Charles Buer, he knows IVO, and then the other one was Hover Incorporated. I hadn't even heard of them yet, but we'll be looking up them later, too. This is just like we literally found like the like smog's cash of gold and gems and we're just going around just like looking just picking up emeralds and rubies and [ __ ] like oh what else what else are you going to teach us today Mr. Chase, please. Do you have some more gold and diamonds for us? >> Though, because of all the the, you know, the charge associated with that, right? And so, you have to be really careful about those measurements and uh because the the charges can um you know, attract to something and and you get various forces, especially if you're trying to measure something small. So, making something that rotates, you know, um you know, really is the acid test, I guess. But anyway, so yeah, I do think uh you know there could be a direct relation between this these kind of macroscopic uh you know large size asymmetric capacitor type things and the asymmetric potentials in our resonant only dodes that we're saying and we predict will generate uh very large forces. And since they're you know on the the nano micro scale you can make an array of these things that's you know very lightweight and yet still generates a a very large force. But you know that that all depends on us being able to um interact with the vacuum right uh you know if we can't interact with the vacuum you know all the sort of center of mass conservation arguments hold that well you know momentum in a closed system has to be contained essentially so um I think I'm digressing from your question but >> so he just decides to go on a little side quest and basically say the only way any of this is possible The only way any of this stuff is possible, the vacuum can't be empty. That's what he says right there. Vacuum can't be empty. Well, you know what? Good news, everybody. That's the only thing that we need for all this to be real is the vacuum is not empty. Well, what what do we call that? What do we call that? Oh, we call it the ether. We call it the ether. We call it the 0ero point energy. 0 point energy. The ether. We're bringing it back. We're making 0 point energy cool again. We're making it cool again. It never wasn't cool, but we're making it cool again. >> No, no. Vacuum energy is in the news right now. I feel like this is one of those things. >> It's in the news, chat. Vacuum energy is in the news. It's cool again. People are talking about it. Cool, successful people are just having casual conversations about vacuum energy, zero point energy. It's just that's what cool people are doing. Now, somebody is sending me a wakeup call saying, "Hey, Tim, this is important. Not only is Charles Gulerstein producing net force without reaction mass in these again, as you mentioned it, larger plate asymmetries." But both doctors Harold Sunny White and Garrett Modell over at the University of Colorado described converting casimer effect zero point energy into electrical power. You just mentioned the Casemir effect yourself. So I wanted to ask if you're also exploring potential energy generation aspects of ZPE and do you have any thoughts on the emerging science that White and Modell are working on? >> Does he have any thoughts on their Does he have any thoughts on their science? He hosted them at a conference. We might be watching Tim Ventura being redpilled by MH370X in real time. He might be having like a a crisis of conscience going on here. This is wild to watch this all play out. Okay. Yeah. What are you gonna say? >> Yeah. So, first let me just say that if you can generate >> Let me guess. He's known them for a super long time. Let me guess. He's known them for a super long time, right? These guys all know each other without even I I've never heard I don't think I've heard Charles Chase say Hal Pudof's name, but I know for a fact that Charles Chase and Hal Pudof are buddies. I know for a fact. I guess it just means I have psychic remote viewing powers, chat. I don't know how I know that, but I just know it. >> A force like we're predicting from our um uh vacuum fluctuation flow is what we call it because we're flowing the vacuum fluctuations in a preferential direction. So if you can generate a force, you can make something rotate and then you can generate you can make a generator. So you can you can um you know generate electricity that way. So, you know, by generating a force with our device, yeah, we'll be able to generate energy as well by using an oldfashioned electrical generator. Um, yeah. And so, and and uh you know, so Sunny and Garrett are both really good friends. You know, Sunny and I go back a long time. Um, we worked together when I was at the Skunk Works and he was at NASA. We worked on um a few different things that we were both doing at that time. And Garrett I've known known for a super long time, too. he's uh um come to our advanced propulsion and energy um workshops that we've had uh at MIT there and uh I've known Garrett for a super long time really really brilliant guy uh great great researcher and so I you know with with Garrett's system he's using a type of a diode and is measuring a very small current uh coming from that that uh diode um and so uh you know and then Sunny is distorting um the vacuum distribution by creating pillars and and things that uh that make the vacuum uh distribution asymmetric. >> It's pretty cool. There's so many different ways to do it. There's so many different ways to do it. Of course. Yeah. He knows he's known them forever. He's known them forever. Known them for decades. Like it makes me wonder who's influencing who? Did those guys get the idea to do this technology because Charles Chase told them to? Like why did Mo Arman do the coherent matter wave beam patent? Like because I can tell right away what's going on here. Like if I'm somebody that knows there's some magical technology that's possible because I worked at Loheed Martin and I saw it. Now all I have to do is whisper in somebody else's ear and say, "Hey, you should investigate this. It's going to work. Trust me, I know it's going to work. I can't tell you why I know, but I know it's going to work." And then you say in and if it when it does work out, you just put me as the co-author for the patent. I'm the co-author for the patent and now we both make a lot of money, right? That's how this [ __ ] is working. That's how this is playing out. That's why you see these co-authors on a lot of these patents and they're all connected to Loheed Martin. That's why Bernard Hay from Loheed Martin is also connected to Garrett Modell and it it's kind of if Garrett Modell does not notice that or realize that like that is that would blow me away. chat. >> Interesting. >> And because it's asymmetric, you can generate a current that way. So, um, yeah, both those things look really, uh, promising. >> Oh, and I guarantee you this dude is really rich. This dude is really rich. I would really love to know how many millions of dollars this dude made off Loheed Martin. My guess is he was getting paid over a million dollars a year with stock options and all kinds of crazy stuff. And that doesn't even include then the patents which I have no idea how much they sell those patents for but probably millions. Um you know time is an interesting component like does it reach you know I'm just bringing up things that enter my mind right time is a component there and does it reach some sort of those type of devices reach some sort of equilibrium after some amount of time you know we worry about that with our own or think about that with our own device as well you know what what happens over time with that um but these are the sort of things that are at the edge of our understanding of of science right you know with with vacuum fluctuations there's the um big difference between the what the cosm ological constant and QED predicts for the um you know the the the energy density of the vacuum is 120 orders of magnitude different right so this is an area of science where science doesn't know really what's going on and there's another situation right there right we're we're looking at a man that's built magical technology literally built a compact fusion reactor and he's playing koi about how much vacuum energy there is going there's 120 orders of magnitude between the cosmic microwave background, which is what we think of as the background energy, and the background energy is calculated based on quantum mechanics. This is very important. So, I'm going to go I'm going to say it one more time. This 0 point energy all around us everywhere, this ocean of energy we're in, if we measure it just based on the heat, the cosmic microwave background, it's this tiny tiny little amounts. If you talk to a lot of academics, they're going to say, "No, there's only a tiny amount of vacuum energy because they don't know what they're talking about. But if you do quantum mechanics, if you actually go and calculate at the quantum scale how much energy there is and then extrapolate it, it's practically infinite. It's practically infinite." So that's what Charles Chase is saying here is they know that the answer is not the cosmic microwave background. The answer to how much vacuum energy is is it's the quantum answer. The quantum answer is correct. >> And you know people talk about u you know even with the kasmir force which you know we've talked about but never really mentioned what it is. I I know you've talked about it on your show before but you know when you have two plates uh that are close together or other objects they don't have to be plates. Some of the modes of the vacuum are excluded from in here some of the frequencies. So there's a lot more outside than inside and it causes the plates to smack together. You can have different materials. You can actually get repulsion by using different materials on the inside. But um what's interesting is you can derive that force, the kasmir force with never invoking vacuum fluctuations. It's something called radiation reaction. And you know it's a normal ordering in the quantum electronamics. I I I don't know that much about it. I'm not you know I'm an arm chair physicist if anything. And uh but I do know that this is the case. So you know again that's an example. Are vacuum fluctuations really or not? um and uh can we use them? what what's the uh you know are they mutable and you know what's this difference between the cosmological constant and the value that QED predicts you know so I'm just pointing out this is the area that science should be pursuing and um you know people the funding agencies like you mentioned like NSF and and others and should be funding this type of work that is in the unknown and is on the edge and um that's the only way >> so now we're just basically on our soap box saying that they need to be funding this research. They don't need to fund this research. We already know the answer. Just give us the compact fusion reactor and all everything will just tumble out. Like, do I really just have to make it this clear? Do I have to make it as clear as possible? You don't need a bunch of research to figure out stuff that Loheed Martin already figured out 20, 30 years ago. The moment you release your magical fusion reactor that can fly around and produce unlimited energy, people are going to wonder how the hell that thing's working. And then the unification and realizing that the vacuum energy is wrong. All that will just instantly happen. So this is the craziest. We don't need laws for disclosure. We just need people to just tell the truth. Just tell the truth and reveal what you already know and we can just advance civilization like a hundred years overnight. Like a hundred years overnight. I even forgot. We haven't even talked about unification theories in so long because it just it seems redundant to me now. But they've already figured out unification of quantum mechanics and general relativity. That's like a huge thing for physicists. That's like something like it's barely even registers on the scale of the science that we're talking about. That's like the base thing. That's like the entry point to the science we're talking about. That blows people's minds. Kuza Klein figured that out in 1926. 1926 we unified the gravity and electromagnetism. Scientists are still coping. >> The breakthroughs are going to happen. Well, you know, in in terms of White and Modell as well as what you're doing with tunneling diodes and what Buler is doing on a slightly larger scale in terms of zero point energy, I mean, probably like anybody else who took college physics, right? Um, you know, we all learned about ZPE. We all learned that if you hit the vacuum hard enough with a particle, it'll eject an antiparticle. You know, the basics are all there. There was always this idea that you can't extract net energy from it. And so to see what they're doing now, I'm like, "Oh my god, you know, that's amazing." And even more amazing, the part for me that is mind-blowing is they're putting it on a chip, which means they can put that into transistor packaging. They can fabricate that like a semiconductor. And so with the tunneling diode system that you're using in theory, as you refine that, do you think that that's something that you might be able to put on a chip and basically amplify the power thousands or millions of times? >> Yeah. So that that that's the way we make it. We make it just in a, you know, regular semiconductor fab. Um, and we Did Tim Ventura not know that those are microchips that they're doing? It's like a diode. What do you think a diode is? A diode is a semiconductor. Semiconductors refer to all of the components of a microchip of a circuit of a tiny little circuit. So semiconductor industry, when we talk about a semiconductor company, we're talking about microchip companies. That's what we're talking about. And what he's like, "Oh, is that the next step? Do you put it on a microchip?" Yes. Yes. It feels like Tim Ventur is like on the MH370X bandwagon from like a year ago when we were like this is all about putting it on microchips. Like why bother with a free energy over unity magnetic motor? You don't want a magnetic motor that's three feet wide. I want a microchip that goes in my phone. A microchip that goes in my phone. That's where engineering is at right now. And later on in here, he's going to explain how the other science that he's been researching leads to that lithography. Lithography is making microchips. Making microchips. That's where we're at today. I don't want us to figure out where we were at in the 70s or the 80s. How does that help us? That doesn't help us. I want us to figure out where we are at now in 2025. That's the technology we need to steal. We need to steal the technology they're working on today, not the technology they had 30 years ago. That's that's obsolete now. >> Do it on a silicon wafer and and you can make an array of diodes um you know across the wafer um so you can have millions of dodes all generating forces and those all add up together. Um and uh yeah. Yeah. So that way you can generate with these very micro structures really large forces and um you know the first application we're looking at is for um for space propulsion because it's you know you don't need much force but as the technology matures you know just kind of like sunnies and garretts you know they're generating a little current right now uh as we understand more about the mechanism and the physics you know of course that's going to increase we'll be able to generate more I would think we'll be able to generate larger forces that would have a lot of terrestrial application as as well. And like I mentioned, you know, just being a generator and making a magnet rotate, you can generate electricity that way. Everyone could have their own little thing that's generating electricity and um you know, never needs to be plugged in or fueled or anything, right? So it sounds sounds kind of impossible and yet it's um you know, it it's all based on scientifically valid assumptions. So you know, but it it hinges on that one key thing. Can we is the vacuum something we can interact with? And you know, and can we consider the universe an open system, which to us it is. It's an open system. So yeah, so we're changing the vacuum and that's going off somewhere. That's, you know, that's some someone else's in the universe's problem or issue. I don't know if that makes any sense. >> That last thing he said there is relevant. He doesn't dig into it in this interview but he mentioned it in one of his presentations is so if we are manipulating the vacuum conservation still holds. So if we are somehow able to make a system where we're able to get over unity out of that then that means there must be a debt being paid somewhere else. What he's implying here is that if we pull some energy from over here it's got to be coming from over here. So he's saying like if we are exchange energy it's not that we are like breaking the laws of physics we just don't see the impact of it. This is actually kind of a scary thought. There's something called the twin universe theory. And that theory was basically developed to try to understand how free energy could be possible. Like you imagine that we're on the surface of a lake and you're looking at your reflection down below, right? It's like, okay, well, if I pull energy out of here, then it's yanking it from below. So, wherever this were to move, that means I'm subtracting from here and I'm adding to up here or vice versa. So, it's kind of like thinking like that. And it's another way to think of it's like plucking a string on a guitar. It's going to vibrate back and forth as well. So, I don't know if that's necessarily accurate to how the world will really end up how it really ends up working, but it's a scary thought to think about is that when you're taking your free energy, you might be taking energy from someone or somewhere else. Just keep that in mind, chat. Keep that in mind. >> Sense or not, but you know, if we're sending momentum out by changing the vacuum, well, that's going to go somewhere. >> It it does make sense. And I want to again once again point viewers to the links that I'm going to put in the YouTube show notes because you did a presentation. This was a late 2022 presentation where you drilled down on vacuum energy. It was like at least an hour PowerPoint if I remember correctly and you went through all of these various aspects of it in great detail along with the physics. I mean that was the first presentation the first live stream I showed was going through that vacuum energy presentation wasn't it? Feel like it was. So for people who want to learn more about that, I absolutely want to point them to that. Again, I went back and forth through that thing for a couple of hours doing research and it was wonderful. It was a wonderful overview. And you >> you mean you watched my live stream? I mean like my live stream went over it for a couple hours. Yes. >> You talk about propulsion, you talk about energy generation. There is so much substance and information there. Now, I did want to touch on something that's a little bit different, and that's Paul Thibidos's graphine energy converter. And this one is intriguing to me because from what I have read, >> you mean my other live stream? My other live stream about Paul Tibido? That one? Yeah. Okay. How have we not mentioned my name yet? I mean, how have we not mentioned my name yet here? It's kind of awkward. Like, did they did they talk about me before or after the interview? like, "Hey, there's this big guy on social media. I'm just gonna rehash everything he's been saying for the last couple weeks and ask you about it." This is like a proxy interview. I might as well be the one interviewing him. Tim Ventur is doing a great job asking him the questions I would have asked him. said this rectifies background energy, but Fibido describes it as rectifying brownie in motion or basically latent heat energy from the environment into electrical current rather than extracting energy from the ZPE. It almost sounds like these are maybe two aspects of the same underlying constant. I don't know what what are your thoughts on that? >> Yeah, so I I know a little bit about Paul's work. you know, he gave a talk at one of our advanced propulsion and energy um workshops when his his um his first experimental information just just came out. Um I haven't followed too much of that lately. I should uh see how Paul is doing, but um yeah, so you know, I thought that he was thinking that the the random fluctuations would happen whether or not you had thermal fluctuations. So, I'm you know, I'm I'm not really up too much on on where he's at. And uh but you can imagine you know vacuum fluctuations making that graphine move and then you know that causing a little bit of current. Uh you know he he went through a lot as I remember to get his paper uh saying the right thing so it would be accepted. >> Yeah. Yeah. There that was and it was a breakthrough when it came out. I remember reading some news stories about that and it was it was mindful. >> Right. Right. So it took some really hard thinking to uh reconcile what he was observing with the laws of physics. >> Yeah. >> And and he was able to do that to the satisfaction of the reviewers. >> It it really just you doesn't it feel like he's just like he's saying what only he can say from like to be accepted by academia? Like it feels like he's very carefully cutting out his responses here. He's like, "Yeah, I I thought Paul Tibido was going to say that like it has to have a thermal, you know, uh, vibr, you know, a change in order for that to do it." But no, Paul Tibido was clear. There doesn't need to be some thermal change for that thing to be extracting energy. He says that I remember actually Charles Chase asking that question and oh yeah, Paul Tibido had to go through all this this work. Yeah, bro. You know what would really help Paul Tibido out? if like you could be like, "Hey, yeah, I know it all works because we did all that stuff at Loheed Martin. That would be pretty helpful if you said that here." But no, he doesn't. >> Now, without mixing myself up too much because again, I'm kind of reaching the edge of what was able to teach me. But one of the things that surprised me was in Thibido's case, there was this idea of rectifying latent heat energy, which is almost like Maxwell's demon or Maxwell zombies, right? Depending on who describes it as what. And so the idea is that you have kind of a one-way valve for heat energy. More energetic particles based on natural distributions may end up crewing on one side than the other and you build up a gradient. You could build up a current from that. Right. And with zero point energy, what you're describing in diodes sounds similar. Um I recall this this may have been yourself. It may have been Garrett Modell. I don't remember which. uh basically saying that electrons can tunnel through some types of diodes and if you modify the diode correctly, you may be able to generate a net electrical current just through random tunneling, right? They can tunnel one way but not another because of the way the diode is constructed. And again, that idea just grabbed me and I said, "Wow, amazing." >> Paul Tibido was in that. But yeah, >> so you know, I wouldn't be working on this so hard if I didn't think that uh there really was something here. And you know, and I've uh you know, I've known that for a long time. Okay. Okay, chat. What more do you need? There it is. There's the confession. There's the confession. Full screen. Full screen. Here we go. Let's just go back five seconds or whatever something here. >> What? 10 seconds. Let's say >> on this so hard if I didn't >> grabbed me and I said, "Wow, amazing." >> Yeah. So, you know, I wouldn't be working on this so hard if I didn't think that uh there really was something here. And, you know, and I've uh you know, I've known that for a long time. You know, it's it's kind of more than just, well, you know, this is scientifically engineeringly interesting. It's kind of like uh you know, I'm driven to do this and I know that there's we can make this work. Um >> um I know there's something here and I've known for a long time. It's not like I'm just scientifically interested. I'm driven. What does that sound like, chat? Does that sound like anybody on your screen right here? Yeah, that's what it sounds like when somebody finds out that they know there's magical technology and they know the world's never going to believe it and they're just trying their best to get the information out. That's what it sounds like right there. He's known for a long time. He knows the stuff is real. I can't believe he just said that. He's clearly not too worried about like consequences. I mean, he's just saying he knows. He's kind of old, so I guess he's not that worried about it anymore, but wow. >> So, but you know, the the bar is really high to to prove things, right? The bar is really high to prove things. So, >> I mean, he's just explaining it, right? He's just saying he's like, "Look, the bar is really high to prove things, so why would I bother trying to prove it?" This is why like a lot of people come at me about Ashton, why don't you go build something? Why the hell would I waste my time doing what all these people are doing? What Paul Tibido, Paul Tibido is a PhD professor at a major university and he gets [ __ ] on by his colleagues and everybody else that says his stuff can't work. But you want me to go do it? You want me to waste my life to go do it? take away time from my other research from promoting the people that have already figured it out. Hell no. That's what they want me. That's what the spooks want me to do. The people hiding this stuff, they want me to go waste my time in a closet somewhere and go try to build this [ __ ] Why? Because they've already got it. That's a waste of time. You're wasting your life if you're doing that. They've already figured it out. You're just reinventing the wheel. If you think reinventing the wheel is a good use of your time, go for it. It's not a good use of my time. Um, I'm really excited about the work we're doing, the work that Sunny's doing, you know, Garrett, Paul, Charles, you know, Encore from from Hover, all these people um out there working on on these devices. And, you know, I think it's it's just wonderful. >> It is. It is. And it does seem like there's convergence happening. It seems like, at least at the moment, they seem to be converging onto a core set of principles, which I think will help us understand the science better. So let me let me ask about coherent matter wave generation. You actually have a patent that you received back in 2016. If I remember correctly, you started working on that patent in 2011 and it was actually granted in 2016. And for the lay people in our audience, I want to start out by asking what is a coherent matter wave? What is a coherent matter wave generator? And and what led you to develop this? >> Holy [ __ ] What? We just did a live stream two days ago and we were trying to figure out how matter wave beams work. And I'll be honest with you guys, it was probably the toughest live stream I've ever done because understanding Bose Einstein condensates and how they can produce a beam of matter that's in phase doesn't make a lot of sense from a conventional perspective. Well, I guess we get to listen to the man himself explain it. Okay, here we go. >> Yeah. So, I I have that patent along with my colleague Dr. M Arman who was a a brilliant Iranian scientist who worked in my group at the skunk works and uh you know he's the one who originally came up with the idea and then I helped him mature it and um >> wait wait wait did he say Iranian scientist? Did he just say that Moaron was Iranian? He did say that right? And did he say was? Did he use the past tense chat? Did he use the past tense? I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist, but what if Mo Arman wasn't with us anymore? And what if like that like I don't you know what this is one of those situations where I don't want to know anymore. In fact, I don't I'm going to pretend like I didn't hear what I just said as well. Like I don't want to dig into this. I have I'm getting bad vibes from what he just said right there, y'all. But y'all talking about when when I talk about Iran and like why we targeted their nuclear physicists, it's about zero point energy. It's about making fusion bombs and [ __ ] that can teleport things like that's why we're targeting nuclear scientists. >> Boy, >> you know, work out some of the the aspects of that. So, uh, but what what is it? So, this is a way of um making a laser out of particles instead of photons. So, you know, with a with a laser um the reason why it's so bright is you've put all the photons uh into the same phase into coherence. So they're all stacked on top of each other and that makes the intensity go up um as the square of the number of of photons instead of just linearly which gives you this this huge laser um sort of power. So we've figured out a way to do that with particles uh versus photons. Now particles are are what's called firmians instead of bzons and I don't know >> here we go. We're actually getting to the sauce here. This was my whole confusion on Wednesday. Particles are firmians. Firmians mean like my hand can't go through the microphone. Firmians, Bzons like light, light would be able to go right through this. Light can stack up and then become amplified. That's how you can get the all the phases lined up. So, how the hell do you turn matter into a Bzon? How is that a possible thing? um you know bzzons are what photons are but um you know so being uh there's something called the polyexclusion principle which doesn't allow you to put um two particles that are firmians into the same state and so you can't make them coherent. So, um, you know, we've figured out a way using something called the Arana. And it's crazy because this this invention has like, you know, five different components that are all a little esoteric that come together to make it possible to make this this beam that's a million times more powerful than a laser. more what I've been most excited about lately is the application to atomic scale additive manufacturing and direct manufacturing so that you can use this coherent beam that you create uh by putting the firmians in coherence using a horn bomb effect um you can use it to uh write uh features down to 02 nanometers you can use it for doing like new sorts of chemistry because you know the way >> that 2 nanometers 0.2 nanometers is getting really, really, really close to atomic scale manufacturing at this point. That's really tiny. Yeah. Somebody's saying how crazy the science is. Go ahead and try us. Go ahead and try us, chat. We You tell me that there's some crazy effects that are coming together. This conversation is about to go completely off the rails, chat. It's about to go completely off the rails. I hope you're ready for this. Here we go. Get excited. By the way, just reminder guys, I think it was Wednesday or Monday. I've lost track of the days. One of those days we were talking about quantum tunneling being connected to fusion. Go back one of the last two live streams. It was one of the last two quantum tunneling potentially being connected to fusion. Remember that >> to think about this is that the atoms or electrons, which are the particles we're talking about, they're really waves, right? They're actually waves and have a frequency. >> Um, and people have shown this, you know, and they def they interfere with each other, you get interference patterns. People have measured the waves of vitamins and other things. So, you know, particles are um are waves. And so, by controlling the phase of those waves using our coherent matter beam device, we can do new brand new chemistry that hasn't been um possible before by combining the waves. kind of think of it as a frequency com combination of atoms >> and by doing that uh like I said you can do new chemistry but you can do atomic scale additive manufacturing where it's not you know it's like the start of the replicator right you can uh you'd be able to build uh something um you know from its atomic parts into a structure and do that at the the atomic scale >> holy crap he said it chat literal replicator Confirmed literal replicator 100% confirmed by Loheed Martin, senior fellow at Loheed Martin. Top 0.1% chat. If the man is saying it in a public podcast, they probably already had it 20 years ago. They probably already had it 20 years ago. Holy smokes. Ashton wasn't lying chat. Bro literally said the words replicator. Said the words replicator. I was on Tim Pool saying they got a replicator. They're already working on replicators. Everyone's going, "Ashton's making up this stuff. He's just doing mumbo jumbo science." Okay. Okay. I tell you what, you don't want to duel me. You can duel my champion. My champion is Charles Chase of Loheed Martin Skunk Works. He's 100 and0. He's 100 and0 when it comes to KOs and intellectual arguments. You got no chance against my man. I've seen what he did to Nobel Physicist that said that we can't do warp drives. You don't want to go up against him. Just saying. Holy smokes. It honestly, it's more than just that. He didn't just say we have replicators. He says we can synthesize new elements. Did you guys hear that? Am I the only one that was like, "Huh, alarm bells are going off in my head." Hey, we can synthesize new elements. Um, what do you mean by synthesize new elements? Because of course we can. If it's all just waves, if matter is just a wave and we get the waves in phase, are we doing fusion? Are we doing fusion? What does it mean when we combine the waves? We're just combining wave functions together. To me, that sounds like you're just playing God at that point. What it really sound like, the first thing that came to my mind was element 115. Element 115, the Bob Lazar element. The first thing I would do if we could create stable waves and mix waves together to make new elements, I would make a super heavy element that could be used as a fuel source, an unlimited fuel source for interstellar travel. Why? Why? Because there's nothing in outer space. There's no matter to pick up in outer space. On Earth, we can use the air and the water to make our plasma, but in outer space, we don't have that. So, in outer space, I would want some super efficient element that can produce a huge amount of energy. Huh. This interview is crazy. I mean, he just said, "Okay, we can make a rep." He's working on a replicator right now using his matter wave beam patent and we can synthesize new elements. New elements. So, yeah, we can do transmutation, we can do alchemy, we got everything is on the table. Everything. The future is crazy, chat. The future is actually better than the science fiction movies and TV shows. It's actually crazier than the TV shows >> speed since it's that coherence and the n squared behavior. You be able to do it at a speed that makes it uh suitable for making devices in a reasonable amount of time that that you know would have a lot of applications talking about 3D printing. >> I don't know if I explained how the coherent matter beam works very well, but it it you know I kind of talked about what the payoffs are of that. It's >> good enough for me. >> I appreciate your I appreciate your describing. It's an incredibly >> Yeah, this kind of also reminds me of the glitter conspiracy chat. Why is glitter some national security thing? Probably because they can make things super small. Making things super small, >> complex idea. And so this is one where I would absolutely recommend that people read up on this. I think you had a great description. It's just there's a lot of depth here, right? This isn't like a fiveminute overview type thing. But when I was doing research for that, what grabbed me was this idea of something called atomronics which utilizes coherent matter wave circuits and it can do ultra precise interferometry as well as having applications for quantum computing. So when I read that I thought well I mean number one the name atomronics is the coolest thing ever but then I thought you know what not only is he working with vacuum energy the unlab is also revolutionizing quantum computing or at least has the potential to. Right. >> Yeah. Right. Right. So, um, yeah, those atomronics, I believe, you know, use >> atomronics. I knew there's going to be a connection to AI here. I knew there was going to be some connection to AI. All this technology is connected. I don't really understand the full connection to AI. My understanding was the AI needs energy for this, but if we're dealing with quantum entanglement and coherence, quantum computers are the next thing, right? Nobody really even understands quantum computers or what they do right now. So, anything he says about quantum computers, I'm interested. >> What are called Bose Einstein condensates, which are, you know, ring, he just said the magic word, everyone. Bose Einstein condensates. It's like a triple word score here. Every single buzzword that we've been researching, he was just talking about coherent matter wave beams and now we've just gone straight to Bose Einstein condensates. Let's go back about 10 seconds. >> Also revolutionizing quantum computing or at least has the potential to. Right. >> Yeah. Right. Right. So um yeah those atomronics I believe you know use what are called Bose Einstein condensates which are you know at super low frequency. So this the coherent matter beam um you know there's some superconductivity in it to uh provide mutual inductance because things to provide >> superc conductivity chat superc conductivity we've hit every single buzzword in this >> the coupling that provides the synchronization of all the matter waves um so but we could operate up at liquid nitrogen temperatures which is you know 77 Kelvin so much easier than the Bose Einstein condensates that are needed for the atom And the Bose Einstein condensates are where you've put particles all into one macro wave function. Uh because they're perfectly perfectly still, but they're only held still because there's a laser hitting the damn thing that is providing the balance. So I don't know. Anyway, I >> Why Why did he say that? Why did he just say that? Nothing is accidental that he just says in this interview. He just randomly goes on a tangent. He was talking about how cold we have to make the Bose Einstein condensates. And he goes, "The only reason why the Bose Einstein condensates are staying like that is because there's a laser that's that's keeping them stable. There's a laser that's stabilizing the Bose Einstein condensate." He goes, "Well, ignore that. No, no big deal." Why why was I thinking about that? Um, was he thinking about that because he knows we can make room temperature Bose Einstein condensates that are self-stable? Stabilized plasmoids, for example. Perhaps an exotic vacuum object that self-stabilizes self-stabilizes not at subzero at at zero Kelvin. That was interesting. >> Russ again. >> Yeah. Well, you mentioned a moment ago, I hadn't read this. These could be potentially a million times stronger than a laser. So, could you use this for something like a cutting laser, right? Except you might be able to do nanocale cutting with it. >> Yeah, you can you can definitely do that. or you know to do deposition of uh you know nanocale and again down to you know sub nanometer sort of dimensions. So um you know better than anything else that that is actually out there what anything can do right now. >> This is like a fundamental tool for developing nanotech. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And new sorts of nanotech and um again new sorts of materials. >> Okay. >> That we can't make now because we're not we don't we're not making the right conditions for those material waves to interfere and combine in in a certain way. And so, who knows where that leads, you know? >> Okay. Okay. Now I get it. Now I get it. Right. He's like, "Oh, look at all this stuff we can do with these these matter waves. We can do atomic scale manufacturing, super advanced lithography. We can create new elements. Clearly, we can do fusion. If you're creating new elements, you're doing fusion. So, how are they pulling that off?" Oh, they're doing this quantum thing where they get all the wavelengths of the quantum particles to fit together. That sounds a lot like the quantum tunneling fusion that we were listening to like just a few days ago. Yeah. How does this get green lit by the DOE and the DoD? Clearly coherent matter wave beams are or were classified for national security? I mean, how far back do these coherent matter wave beams go? Is it just a beam of plasma or it get more complicated than that? So, they've got super advanced microchips, floating balls of plasma flying around, free energy devices up the butt. These people have so much free energy devices, they're just like falling out of their pockets. Oops. Oops. Another free energy device fell out over here, chat. Well, whatever. Let that one go. We got five more over here. I mean, what is this world? How is all this just hidden? Adamronics. We're just making up new words. Adamronics. I just gonna guess that that just means Star Trek replicator type stuff, atomronics. >> And I don't know, I I think about what, you know, can you do it down at uh uh for uh even uh higher energy, so higher frequencies and therefore do things like make super heavy elements, right? Another thing I've been fascinated with and you know, spent some time working on is how to make super heavy elements. These are elements that are way up in the, you know, in the atomic scale that are predicted to be stable. Wait, wait. He's literally talking about Moscovium. What What other elements is he talking about here? Elements that are predicted to be stable that aren't. That's element 115. He's literally talking about it here. Am I the person that has to make this interview go viral? This is a more interesting interview than any UFO interview I've ever heard in my whole life. And it connects to everything all the UFO people care about. Um, stabilizing superheavy elements using coherent matter wave beams. Element 115. Anybody? Does Bob Lazar even want to be vindicated? If Bob Lazar wants to be vindicated, he might want to talk to Charles Chase. Might want to watch this interview. Kind of vindicating Bob Lazar right now. And I did not expect this, by the way. And personally, I don't give a [ __ ] about Bob Lazar. I mean, I think he seems like a nice guy. I don't know him personally. I have no vested interest in whether or not Bob Lazar was telling the truth or not. I just think he probably is because the stuff he says seems to check out. Seems to check out. >> And so, you know how you know atoms that we make that are really with a lot of um protons um decay, they don't last for a long time. Super heavy elements are predicted to last. And um interesting thing is they'll emit posetrons. >> Well, so you could potentially use a coherent matter wave beam. >> Oh yeah. To make these super heavy elements. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that's much higher energy and higher frequencies. So, you know, that's I'm not sure if that's even physically possible to do that. But wouldn't that be cool? >> That would be. Yeah. So, let's add that to our UNLAB list is antimatter shielding. And then we've got, you know, quantum mechanical stuff going on. We we have a lot. You are working on so many amazing things. Let me thank you so much for your time today. It has truly been a pleasure. Absolutely an honor going through all of these amazing technology. >> Jeez, that is it. chat. Well, I mean 30 35 minutes that was 35 minutes of just Charles Chase popping off. I think they hit every single topic I would discuss, but then it just stops. What would I even ask Charles Chase at this point? I don't even know. I think what would I ask Charles Chase? I would say, "Hey, did the Big Bang happen?" I would say, "Charles Chase, did the Big Bang happen? Can I survive if I go through a teleportation wormhole?" I would also ask him, can we go back in time? Is that a thing that we can do as well? He knows the answers to these questions. If anyone on this world knows the answer to these questions, Charles Chase knows. And if he were to just tell me like, well, I think it might be this or that, I would say, he knows. He knows 100%. Yeah, that was 35 minutes of straight fire, guys. Okay, since we're already well over an hour, I think we might call it there. I'm just going to tease the next live stream instead. I wanted to dig into more nukes. Um, but instead I'm just going to show this. So guys, the there's no doubt a connection in nukes. Here you go. Check this out. How do I make this bigger or whatever? There we go. How do you like this right here? How's this grab you? Various plasma stabilization methods for controlled thermonuclear fusion comparison and analysis. May 1972. Wow. You know what? Maybe I will show you a a little bit of this. Let's show a little bit of this. Screw it. I'm feeling it. I'm feeling it. Where is it? 1972. So, we're way way way before uh a lot of the the more recent stuff that we've been researching. This is one of the oldest things we've seen. This whole paper, I only got through about 20 or 30 pages of it, is all about using plasma and fusion to create efficient thermonuclear detonations. I mean, in fact, the more I read it, it just seems like it's all about just plasma infusion. Just all about plasma infusion. Oh, here we go. So, here we go. Screw pinch. Early theoretical studies indicated that the sausage instability of a constructed pinch discharge and the kink instability of a short wavelength could be stabilized by an applied external axial magnetic field as an alternative to the internal axial magnetic field. 1972 they were writing papers about stabilizing plasma using an axial magnetic field just like the orbs in the MH370 videos. Axial magnetic field would be a poloidal magnetic field one that looks like the Earth. Boom. Next. A theoretical study indicated that a screw or diffuse pinch effect with axial symmetric configuration operating above these people's current limit can be stable if the beta value is greater than 0.1. Well, we've learned a lot about beta values, chat, over the last few weeks. This would have meant absolutely nothing to me three months ago. But now, what have I learned about beta values? Oh, I've learned that a field reverse configuration has a beta value of 90% or higher. Close to one. Close to one. This is saying that we can produce a stable plasma with a beta value of just 0.1. And we have the capability of reaching 0.9 or higher. Oh, that's interesting. Very interesting. Again, 1972. The oscillating axially uniform high frequency component of the B field and the oscillating axial component of the current. These are the two ways to get around a lot of the the instabilities in the plasmas. All they were trying to figure out is how do you make a stable plasma? That's what they're trying to do. How do you stabilize the plasma reaction so it's not out of control? Why? Because we're going to do that to make bombs. We're doing that to make weapons. Attention is given to the possibility of working in resonance with the natural plasma oscillation to save energy input required. Wow. 1972 saying that you might be able to get in resonance with the plasma oscillation to minimize energy requirement. Sounds a lot like standing waves to me. The magnetic shear of the magnetic field configuration stabilization can be produced by a number of methods. The two most common methods are, wait for it, pause, the reverse magnetic field device. The reverse magnetic field device. You mean a field reverse configuration? This predates the term field reverse configuration. There it is. Field reverse field device or a helical magnetic windings like DNA right there. Reverse magnetic field device 1972. Holy [ __ ] Of course, it was all connected to nukes. It was all connected to nukes the whole time. Fusion was connected to nukes and fusion was connected to plasma. And they figured out stabilized plasma from building nukes. And then they turned it into a drone using ramjet and scramjet engines. And now we've got plasma orbs flying around doing fusion nuke stuff in the sky, teleporting [ __ ] and the world doesn't get to know because it's all national security and other crazy [ __ ] like that. And they've been gaslighting the hell out of us, telling us, "Oh, it's uh you're just seeing some aliens in the sky. Don't freak out. It's just aliens in the sky." gaslighting the hell out of us when they got plasma orbs flying around based on nuclear technology going back 70 years. This paper is 53 years old. This paper is 53 years old. 53 years. And just in case you think I'm exaggerating in any way, shape, or form, you can read the paper yourself. At present, plasma selfstabilization in appropriate economic magnetic field configurations is still uncertain. If the plasma self-stabilization can prove to be fully effective in the laboratory scale, the actual design of a controlled fusion reactor with the provision of complex stabilizing magnetic fields will require some reliable scaling laws to determine the reactor size. What the? They were already speculating that they were going to be able to get stabilized, self-stabilized plasma balls. They were already theorizing this back in the 70s. So, this is the thing where I say they knew this was all possible. They had already figured out all the science. They had already figured out all the science. They probably were just waiting for the material science. the materials like they needed to actually like fabricate new materials just like Charles Chase was saying. The problem with some of this stuff isn't that they didn't they knew the theory worked. They just needed materials that could do all the magic. They need like the aerrow gels and these other meta materials that they're building. That's what they needed for it to like really take off. And once they did that, once they have all the materials they need, they can build anything they want. They can build anything they want. That's why I think they have everything. Free energy devices of every type, compact fusion reactors, because once they started building their own materials, once they have atomic scale manufacturing, once you have a Star Trek replicator, you've hit the technolog technology singularity, you're just what can't stop you at that point. Okay, I think there's like one or one more slide here. But this self-stabilization I think doesn't even say something MHD. Yeah, hydromagnetic. Instead of saying magneto hydrodnamic, they say hydromagnetic instability. When they say hydromagnetic, that's the same as MHD. So they were using terms, this is so old, they weren't even using the terms that we commonly use now. I'm just going to read this last. This is from the conclusions. It is expected that the research and development of remote control and detection methods for potential dynamic stabilization or feedback stabilization of a thermonuclear plasma will probably become important in developing a controlled fusion reactor. Right there right there in this paper about using plasmas for nukes just decides in the conclusions of the paper the research and development for dynamic stabilization of plasmas of thermonuclear plasmas will become important for controlled fusion reactor. Why are they hiding fusion from us? Because they use they figured out and solved fusion with nukes. You have to be out of your mind to realize to not think. This paper's from 1972. This paper basically describes all the instabilities in plasma and how to solve them at least in theory. So they already had all the theoretical solutions to solve all the plasma instabilities back in 1972. But what 53 years later we still don't have the solutions for them. Of course we solved it. Of course we solved plat fusion. We saw fusion so long ago people wouldn't even believe it. And then it says either the dynamic stabilization or feedback stabilization may be combined with the magnetic field configuration which is the reverse field configuration to stabilize the thermal plasma so that the minimum requirement for a controlled fusion reactor may be attained and satisfied. This might be the exact paper Charles Chase read when he realized they could make a compact fusion reactor. Probably one of the papers that he read because there it is says it right there. Whole paper basically says if you get a B a beta factor greater than 0.1 which we've got much higher than that you can create a magnetic field so powerful that it will create a self- sustaining ball of plasma. self-sustaining ball of plasma. Can solve the instabilities by just making it vibrate or shake. Vibrate or spin. Absolutely incredible, guys. What a live stream tonight, guys. What a live stream. Thank you guys for being here tonight. This has been awesome. Zack Dagger, thank you again for that huge donation. Wow. Thank you guys. I saw the link in the chat. Thank you very much. I'll take a look. Chris, thank you again for those donations, man. Appreciate that. And yes, Ben Rich, the OG. the OG. Ben Rich was probably not lying. Ben Rich knew we had this technology. Nobody was gonna believe this in the 90s. Nobody was believing this in the 90s. People don't even believe it. In 2025, 2025, I found the guy that leaked the videos, uh, you know, found out all the technology, found out the operation, who did the operation, found out there's like clearly a cover up of missing blame. People still can't believe it, not even in 2025. trying to convince people of this in the 90s. No chance. No chance. And then um I don't know why these are showing like usernames. I have to fix that setting. But thank you very much for this donation. None of these people would be out there talking about any of this if you hadn't dragged it out there. Now I don't deserve all the credit. Absolutely not. But I deserve some credit for sure. I literally made sure that 0ero point energy was going to get into people's zeitgeist. And it is. People know about zero point energy now. They don't really understand it, but they know it exists. And that's step one. That's step one to getting the government to admit what they did to MH370. We are winning this propaganda war slowly but surely. 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