Hard Truths /w Sal Pais - Felony Physics Edition
Summary
This episode of the Hard Truths podcast features host Ashton Forbes interviewing Dr. Salvatore Pais, a former Navy engineer and patent examiner known for his controversial patents on plasma compression fusion, high-energy electromagnetic field generators, and inertial mass reduction. The discussion centers on the physics behind the missing Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 (MH370), specifically analyzing videos allegedly showing the plane being teleported via spherical orbs. Pais argues that these phenomena demonstrate 'weapons of time' and wormhole technology, asserting that such capabilities arise from manipulating space-time through extreme energy densities derived from fusion reactors, rather than extraterrestrial origins. The conversation connects advanced physics concepts like the Schwinger limit, Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, and negative temporal excursions to historical anomalies like the Castle Bravo nuclear test, positing that a 'breakaway civilization' or deep-state actors possess these technologies. Furthermore, the dialogue touches upon ancient Sumerian texts (Anunnaki), the concept of a 'super intelligence,' and the geopolitical implications of advanced propulsion and energy systems.
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The MH370 videos are real and depict the teleportation of a Boeing 777 via wormhole technology.
Evidence: Analysis of military thermal footage showing orbs and lines orbiting the plane, interpreted as propulsion and geolocation mechanisms.
Weapons of time, or wormhole weapons, allow for instantaneous transportation and reverse temporal excursions.
Evidence: Mathematical derivation from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle showing time as 1/frequency, and equations from Pais's plasma compression fusion paper indicating energy densities capable of breaking the Schwinger limit.
The technology behind these phenomena is man-made and derived from Maxwell's equations and Heaviside formulations, not alien in origin.
Evidence: Attribution to human geniuses like Nikola Tesla and the assertion that relying on alien tech in war is a Trojan horse.
The yield of the Castle Bravo nuclear test (15 megatons vs expected 6) was due to space-time manipulation or hidden dimensions, not just lithium-7 contributions.
Evidence: The theoretical work of Ferris Williams and the inability of standard lithium explanations to account for a 250% yield increase.
A 'breakaway civilization' controls these advanced technologies, potentially dating back to Sumerian times and the Anunnaki.
Evidence: Interpretation of ancient texts like the Enuma Elish and the 'Tablets of Destiny' as descriptions of time-manipulating weapons, and the concept of humans as property of the Anunnaki.
Plasma acts as a transmedium material facilitating phase transitions to other dimensions (quintessence).
Evidence: The idea that plasma represents far-from-equilibrium phenomena capable of spontaneous symmetry breaking and the Prigogine effect.
The US government (CIA, DoD) possesses fusion technology and artificial general intelligence (AGI).
Evidence: Statements by Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, alleged interactions with insiders like Hal Puthoff, and the suppression of Pais's own patents implying they are already in use.
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Malaysian 370 contact switch 120 decimal niner. Good night. Malaysian 37. >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. >> Even as these grainy satellite images released today by the Chinese government >> again, the Malaysian platoon was a was one shot at China saying, "Knock it up. >> Why shoot it down though if it's not hostile? Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space >> magnets. >> They need distance annihilate. >> This country is very powerful. >> Far more powerful than people understand. We have weaponry that nobody has any idea what it is. And it is the most powerful weapons in the world. Not even close. I remember from Hindu scripture is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says now I am become death the destroyer of worlds. I suppose we all thought that one way or another. Oh, welcome everybody. Welcome to another episode of the Hard Truths podcast with Ashton Forbes. Special guest Lulu Forbes down here, guys. No, just kidding. real special guest today, Salvatore Py, Dr. Navy Engineer. We're gonna be chatting today about the MH370 videos. We're going to be talking about orbs. We're going to be talking about space-time manipulation and time travel as well. Without further ado, my good friend S. How are you doing today? >> Good, brother. Thank you very much for the great honor you do me. And by the way, Lulu is gorgeous. Truly, truly. Let me give a quick disclaimer before you know I come upon your podcast, a hard truth podcast with Ashen Forbes. Um, as a private citizen, my ideas, my opinions, my statements are my own. They have nothing to do with the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. Brother, I would ask you uh for personal favor, give me five minutes to give just a brief introduction to something that I want to talk about if I may have >> that permission. Thank you, sir. All right, let's start this way. Our Secretary of War, Pete Hexath, has recently stated that victory belongs to those who embrace real innovation. There is absolutely nothing more innovative than the design, development, and fielding of weapons of time. which would prove highly disruptive to the arsenals of nations. Imagine the ability to win all wars even before those wars are fought. Imagine a special forces brigade or even an army disappearing here, disappearing here, and reappearing there in the enemy domain almost instantaneously. Imagine the coupling of extreme speed with the ultimate element of surprise. This is weapons of time. Some have called it wormhole weapons, such as Chris Leto in his recent podcast with me on Leto Files. If you have a chance, do watch it. But in summary, she who controls time controls everything. Thank you, brother. That's all. >> Let me ask a follow-up on that. >> Okay. Are aliens real? Do we give Oh, I promised you not to use foul language. So, do we really give a a piece of ma, as the French would say, do we really care? Do we really care? >> You're telling me that we got time travel weaponry, right? So, I think a normal person, first question they're going to ask is they're going to say, "Hey, you're saying we got Edge of Tomorrow capabilities. Does that come from aliens or are we going to use it to fight aliens or what's the deal? >> Are we not proud of being humans? Are we not proud of designing, development, and fielding our own man-made tech? >> Brother, you and I have argued for this for a long time. You you mean to tell me Nicola Tesla the great genius of Tesla had to confer with some three and a half I won't use foul language but these things you know for what the knowledge that he he himself developed over time and and energy frequency vibration it's that freaking simple simple is good that's the pa doctrine >> okay So, let me ask you this then. Are you saying that we need to develop this weaponry and that we don't have it? Are you saying that the DoD isn't aware that this capability is possible right now? Or are you saying that we have it and we need to expand the use of this technology or something else? All I'm saying is that based on very simple physics coming directly for Heisenberg uncertain principle the whole idea of time is on the order of one divided by frequency comes right out of Heisenberg's especially the delta E delta T on the order of H bar where that's the reduced plan constant. You can easily do the math and see that when that energy delta E is expressed as um H delta omega again plank's energy you can see that time can be written as 1 / frequency once you take a chain rule so again simple differential calculus you get something on the order of toao so best so minus delta t referring to reverse temporal excursion and I know what you think of that but minus delta Just like the great D rock, I believe in I believe in the physicality of mathematics. Let's not do away with the antimatter root of the dac equation. Let's consider it. So again, minus delta t is on the order of tao subs times delta omega / omega square. That to subser limit, which you would need in order to do what? to destroy the arrow of time. Thus rendering Hawings chronology protection conjecture null and void. Let me say the way I interpret what you said there is that we can manipulate time dilation through a rapid increase or change in frequency uh is how I imagine it. And that what we're saying is that we can like you said break the arrow of time in a local region of spacetime where we're doing this. Now the problem I have with that in general couple and I wanted to talk about the physics aspect of a little later but we can jump into it right now if we want. First of all, if any of this is even possible, like that's the number one question. Because normal people would just say, people that are not as up to speed on the physics as you or I might be would just say, well, even if this is theoretically possible, who cares? Nobody can do it. It's so far beyond our current capabilities right now, why are we worried about making weapons of time when we still got fighter jets flying? Our F-35s are still rocking around rocket fuel. So, why should we even worry about that? Simple equation 7 8 and 9 in my plasma compression fusion device paper at ILE E transaction and plasma science 2019. Look very carefully 7 8 and 9 indicate that under certain conditions a resonance of vibrational energy can be achieved whereby exponential with respect to time extremely high. We're talking about gawatt to terowatt power levels are feasible. Those power levels can be indicative of power densities on the order of 10 to the 33 watts per meter squared. Those power densities can absolutely put a rip a tear in the space-time continuum thereby breaking the Schwinger limit. >> Yeah. but takes this huge amount of energy density and if that was true then we would have seen that in nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons are this huge amount of how come where why aren't we seeing what you're saying in in the nuclear weapons? >> But we do see it in nuclear weapons. How come for example there have been so many observables from the point of view of certain craft being present when certain detonations were taking place for example but you know this well Ferris Williams the whole idea of Castle Bravo is the only one to come up with a correct physical theory and the dynamic theory of Ferris Williams. I was very fortunate that I came upon one of his patent applications when I was a USPTO patent examiner in 2012 for a brief period for about nine months. I was a patent examiner. I came upon one of his patent applications and I actually called the man and we had a very interesting discussion. He put me in contact with Paul Murad. I sent him my conditional possibility of spacecraft propulsion on the super super luminal at super luminal speeds. That first paper that I tried to publish for four and a half years, finally they said, "Okay, as long as I state in the abstract, it does not violate the special theory of relativity, which it does not because once you break, you put a tear in the space-time continuum, our physics as we understand it ceases to exist. >> This is the beauty of forming or rather engineering black holes. >> Yeah. >> Slow down. Let's I'm going to deconstruct what you just said there. You brought a lot of different points out there. Some of that I don't think everybody knew as well. First, who is Ferris Williams and what patent did you run across when you were in the US PTO? >> The patent had nothing to do with the thermonuclear devices. Uh, I do recall something of the nature of a possibly a new sensor that I he was um on the patent application with someone else but I had looked into his dynamic theory. M >> I came upon it when I was doing my uh so-called private research around 2011 before I joined the patent office. I I joined the patent office. I'll tell you right off the bat because I've always held Albert Einstein in the greatest of esteem. And this idea that while working for the patent office, you could you could let your mind run free while seeing what's available and what of course is not under the secrecy act because those those patent applications have have to be done in the separate room and so forth. Skips. >> Yeah. But anyway, so what's available you uh you get the first eye on the paper of which is a big thing and I wanted to be in the middle of it and then uh I have a transfer to the United States Navy and uh I immediately took it. I've always wanted to work for the armed forces. So >> So let me ask then you so I'll I'll just give some background because I do know about Ferris Williams. was just playing koi there. I just wanted to hear you say that nes manipulate spacetime because I think they do. And I'm surprised more people haven't said that. >> I think that if you look at the Einstein's equations, just like if you look and are able to figure out warp drives and wormholes, you should look at nuclear weapons and say, "Well, isn't the whole goal of a fusion bomb to like try to make a black hole? I mean, isn't that what we're trying to do?" So, of course, they're going to manipulate gravitational waves. That's what a black hole is doing, especially when they collide. So, but what I wanted to say is that Ferris Williams, people should know about him because as you mentioned there, he's the missing link here is that when we set off Castle Bravo and we saw that it was 15 megat tons instead of the expected six megat tons. We kind of gave an excuse. This is two and a half times the payload. They said, "Oh, well, we it was because we added lithium in there," >> which is like, and you challenged that, I think, on um >> it's not the lithium 7 or the lithium 6 has nothing to do with that whatsoever. Not at that yield. It would have been maybe something 30% more, but 2. So, we're talking about huge 200 250%. There you go. It's like cool. >> And so Ferris Williams, his story is that >> he was in the Navy and kind of like you actually he was unorthodox thinker. He never got a PhD actually and he's on record saying he didn't get it because he was given honorary PhD options and he said, "No, I don't want it because I want to show that just a normal person can can achieve these heights." And I don't think he respected academia either. He thought all physics was messed up because he corrected the thermonuclear weapons calculations and he and he found that they were actually 50% higher than what had been recorded. And and to your point, you can't explain this by being like, well, there was some lithium in there. It's just the percentage is way too high. It has to be something significant. >> And it's pretty simple. >> Maybe 30% increase, but not 250% increase. No way. Yeah. >> And even even the 50% increases like just like how could they be off by that much. And so Ferris Williams was they never publicly stated what it is that he discovered that corrected them. But it's pretty easy to find out if you just read his his scientific theory is Oak Shannon went on and said that he he wrote a paper about Ferris Williams because I think he felt like Ferris Williams never got the credit he deserved. And I agree >> because Ferris Williams says, "Well, there's an extra dimension. That's it. We >> has to do with mass density." How interesting. Energy density speaking to what? What does energy density speak to? Directly from a dimensional analysis, energy density is pressure. So, we're talking about again Herman David Frroning's idea of a condition vacuum. This idea of a negative pressure, hence a negative energy density. You see, you don't need exotic matter to create these black holes. You can do it just by pounding pounding locally the very fabric of spaceime until it tears apart. The only thing is because of the tremendous surface tension that it exerts because of the tremendous energy uh modification that would be needed to keep that hole open. The hole closes right back on. So pressure of what though when we're talking about this because it sounds like what we're describing here is we're saying this cube has x amount of energy density in it compared to another cube next to it that has y amount of energy density kind of like these two sides of this screen here and whichever one has more it's going to flow from >> in other words you produce a void within the vacuum that's your negative pressure hence suction pressure imagine that Imperial you know in Star Wars the the the Imperial um I forget what it's called, a carrier or whatnot. Notice how it just goes. >> Yeah. >> And all of a sudden you you no longer see it. It's it's very complimentary of something that you've noticed with your orbs. >> Yeah. >> Anyway. Yeah. >> Well, let's dig into that then. I think Well, actually, before I do that, I wanted to ask more about your background. You did kind of lay it out. So, >> did you leave NASA to go to the US PTO? Is that what your background? >> North Gman. I left north of Grman. >> Do you leave NASA to go to North Grumman? >> I I wanted to stay with NASA, but at the time uh I believe the Clinton presidency had just ended and uh uh they had a hiring freeze in government and um would have been extremely hard to try to get a contractor's job and wait for a civilian job to open and I had some family issues at the time and so forth. So I just yeah that's um I had a graduate research uh student fellowship at NASA uh Lewis Research Center. It became NASA Glenn in Cleveland, Ohio. So uh I let's just say I did my doctoral thesis on the um government do. So >> when did you figure out the the >> I owe the country something in my opinion. There you go. >> Okay. Well, we thank you for your returns. I think you're proud. >> Thank you. And we thank you for being who you are. Thank God somebody has the cojones to talk the way you do. Not many people do. So, >> yeah. Just uh yolo, I guess. So, let me So, when did you figure out this? Just let's just be real here. When did you figure out the secret wormhole technology? When was it? >> It really started with that. >> I'm rolling the dice. I'm going to say that I'm going to say you felt like something was off when you were working at NASA and when you got to Northrup, you definitely knew there was something off. That's what I'm feeling like. Go ahead. I've always felt that there was something more to special relativity. It it really all started with this paper, conditional possibility of spacecraft propulsion at superliminal speeds. that took four and a half years to publish and uh finally when was accepted by um by um Ind science I forget ind science publishers I believe they're located in Germany there's somewhere you in in Europe the journal it was supposed to be published in did not have enough articles and just went under but the chief editor of it thought very highly of the paper and had it uh and spoke to the chief editor of another journal who was able to publish it. So it was published in the same journal that uh the high energy electromagnetic field generator was published in the international journal journal of space science and engineering. So those two came out at the same time. >> Yeah. >> Which of your patents and papers are based off the alien technology? >> None brother. All this is man-made tech. All of it comes from heavyside version of Maxwell's equations. Those beautiful four equations for unknown with harmonic oscillator. I've never seen an I wish I had seen an orb. I wish I had seen three orbs like certain people like Jay Anderson those three orange orbs. Even our brother over there uh Dave Rossi had a special encounter. I mean there are people would who have stories which I'm 100% sure because of who they are are correct. I I was never privy to that. As a matter of fact, most likely, excuse my language, but I think I would crap my pants if uh these things out of, you know, all of a sudden materialize right in front of me and say, "Can you please come with us? We'd like to probe you." I mean, how would you react? Oh, go ahead. Why not? >> I mean, at that point, somebody materializes in front of me, I'm gonna do whatever they say. I'm gonna bow down to them as my new god if we got to because obviously they're here and they're materializing in front of me. I mean, that's some magical stuff to me. >> It's like probes. What probes? Just loop them first, please. Anyway, >> please go easy. That's all I >> All right. All right. All right. All right. See? All right. >> You made me lose my train of thought there. No. So, okay. I think because the aliens might be making you say that. >> Ask a followup. >> All right. >> Have you seen any technologies that a normal person would think looks like alien technology? >> I wish I have never ever absolutely not. I have never seen any technologies. You know, I remember I told you about this about uh getting a email from Hal Putoff asking me if I was on Signal and then basically asking me if I was on a legacy Northrup Brahman program. I said there is such a thing as a legacy Northrup Brahman program. He never answered that second email. >> There I was uh yeah I guess I was never privy to these um brother manmade tech. Trust me, that's where it is. We don't need their so-called technology, even if it exists. And you know why? Because in a war with such a civilization, they would use their technology as a Trojan horse and we would be screwed. It's better to develop our own something they don't understand. Anyway, >> that's pretty smart. How high up do you think Pudaf is? What do you think? What do you think? >> I think he's definitely Jason. Uh I definitely think he's uh he's very high up. I'm pretty sure he's the first consultant if uh something most likely he's the he's the one that took it from Edward Teller. I think Teller had that position for a while. Oh 100% Teller had it for a while. Teller was the best of the best brother. He was the only um friction that he had with the fi the mainstream physics community was that they thought what he did to Heisenberg I mean not Heisenberg sorry God what's his name look at that it completely Oenheimr what he did to Oenheimr was was completely uncool but >> tell was a great patriot bro he wanted this country not only to survive but to be supremacy. He believed in the supremacy of the United States of America. Tell was a true true nationalist. This is and these questions are going to start to make sense here guys. I'm just building up towards something. But so do you think that Hudaf is CIA then? >> Dude, one CIA always CIA. >> He was CIA to begin with. I mean most likely of their science and technology directorate you can tell the man is extremely intelligent. So yeah from every point of view and the idea for him to all of a sudden get an institute of advanced studies at Austin. You know there is such a thing as an an institute of advanced studies at Princeton. >> I know >> all of a sudden he was able to get one in Austin. How interesting. >> I brought that up actually how we how the name is like >> Oh really? You brought it I brought that up completely. I I promise you I've never seen that episode. Wow. Smart. >> Yeah, because uh Yeah, it almost seems like they're they were trying to emulate the you know, Advanced Institute. So, and uh so then I guess the question is because you said that Pudof and Cronies J Stratton, I don't know the exact context, but I'm just being general. You said that they kind of shut down your patents and everybody wants to know about your patents. high energy electromagnetic field generator um inertial uh uh sorry uh inertial production for a transmedium craft uh high temperature super cond super uh conductor etc. So do you think the CIA was shutting down your stuff because they've they're working on it secretly? No idea, brother. One thing's for sure, uh all this technology might must already exist and uh um um otherwise I would have I know I would have had a lab and a team. It just makes complete sense why they never ever prove my physics wrong. Not even one of them tried to take me on. And Pudovv could have easily shut me up if he wanted to or he thought I was wrong. Pudovv as a matter of fact after I gave my um um talk on the super force. I think I was on Kurt Jaangle the second interview I had where Stefan al Alexander who by the way is a very good friend of Eric Weinstein among others. I mean he's a quite a he wrote the jazz of physics. He's he's well established and uh he asked me all kind of questions on the super force. I got an email from Hal after that and the idea of C to the 4th divided by big G said congratulations this is great this is awesome and I mean this is Hal Puto to to this day that means more for me that email means more for me than freaking a presidential award of merit. So anyway, >> well, if you think they already have it, then what's the message in the beginning to Pete Hegsath all about, right? If they have it, why are you concerned? I mean, obviously they can't talk about it publicly if they have it, right? >> Number one. Number two, it's quite possible that um what they have is not necessarily their own to handle. >> They may be something. Remember the great I I really think he's great, Richard Dolan. the whole idea of a breakaway civilization. Also, Dr. Jo Joseph E. Ferrell has said the same thing. Both of them have commented on the idea that it's quite possible that this technology does not belong to our government, but a quote unquote a social order that has broken away from the status quo. >> Imagine a breakaway civilization. It's quite a thought. Anyway, >> uh I've been thinking about it and that's actually I was afraid you were going to say that as the answer because that's what I was wondering too is that maybe it's not as disseminated as we would think and maybe a certain group of gatekeepers really has lockdown on this particular information about about that. >> I mean weapons of time weapons of time it cannot be counteracted and I have a feeling we're dealing with something that goes back way way back to Samrian times that kind of way back. The idea Joseph P. Farrell has written uh on it in the cosmic war. You have to read this. It's called the tablets of destiny. Look carefully at their description. We're talking about weapons of time. And she or rather well she I say she who wields it at the time was the great they called it the great dragon of the Abzu. Her name was Tiamat before it came to Marduk. Marduk, the son of Eni, brother, halfb brotherther of Enlil. Enlil, you well know in Judeo-Christian rel or rather Judeian Hebrew religion is Yah. I am who I am. >> Do you believe just real quick, let me ask we never really I never really push back or anything or even talk about the Anunnaki stuff. Do you think all that stuff's like real >> or has% brother 100% we are the we are property and I have a feeling we are the property of the anu naki the children of the great god Anu that's what it means that's a direct translation it's not what Zacharia sitchin translated as those from who came from heaven to earth no the correct Oxford translation is children of Anu and you have to see who Anu was anu Because they called him the great god. Most likely the head he of Federation. >> Who do I have to ap Do I have to apologize to the Scientologist? Is there going to be like a demon god and there's like souls that they're harvesting? Is that which >> everything that has good in it must also have evil? Uh there is a talk of uh equilibrium here. We're talking about the whole idea of uh the the war between the sons of darkness and the children of light goes back >> millennia. >> Anyway, >> I mean millennia because I have a feeling this whole idea that >> we've been around only for a couple of thousand years is [ __ ] But anyway, >> yeah. >> What do you think about which one do I want to ask first? I guess the the alien disclosure stuff that's happening right now like what do you think about that all the announcements? Uh >> let me ask you a question because this is important. >> Say the Anunaki this idea is correct. Now if if we truly were build as the Adamu to take the chores the work chores of the eigi those were like the lesser gods and they rebelled because they thought the chores were far too much. So that's how the great geneticist uh um I believe Nara uh worked with Eni the brother of Enlil to produce the Adamu the first man. See all this is correct and the >> Hatra Hassis it's called uh and also the Enumalish are correct and these are not myths but they actually occurred. If you had property such as us, would you just give up on it? Do you think anyway? Yeah, go ahead. >> Oh, okay. I mean, I guess that was what I was going to ask is that, you know, do you think that there's a lot of people I think I heard um Gary Nolan, there was a clip or something where he was saying that we might be prisoners or something that tech aliens might be super advanced beyond our understanding. So, this kind of ties into the other question I was going to ask was one I wanted to get your take on the Obama saying aliens were real then Trump now doing the declassification thing but also simultaneously your take on the threeey atlas from a lobe. I don't think I've heard your take on on that. >> I do not have enough data to give um an idea of what that is but uh I mean a lobe is is quite a renowned and wellrespected Harvard physicist and astrophysicist and if he believes this is a possibility who am I to go against his ideas. >> Yeah. So >> well I mean you think we can make wormholes so why would the fly around >> weapons of time reverse temple excursion you are going to argue on that until all of a sudden you enter a temporal chamber and >> you know Literally, I was literally thinking about >> the guilded age. >> No, I was going to go back like 30 years. I'm going to become Bob Lazar. Like, it makes total sense because Bob Lazar is this mythical figure now in the community and it's like, oh, I just become him in the future. Just change the glasses. We're good to go. Uh, but no, >> dude, the way he describes that sports model, I just can't get it out of my mind because that's exactly what the Super Force speaks to. As a matter of fact, I think that's what Hal Puto's idea that my goodness this this is something revolutionary because it is think about it. >> If you look carefully at the gravitational field equation of Albert Einstein, it actually says it is the super force acting locally on the spatial temporal geometric structure structure that does what? Creates energy density hence matter. >> The reason Exactly what Bob Lazar was talking to the sport model. He said >> there was not a rivet. It was completely smooth as if create 3D printed out of space. >> And you probably don't know this though, but Bob Lazar doesn't believe in zero point energy. I have it on good authority >> which is funny. >> Kidding, right? >> No, no, not kidding. It's crazy because this I think this is a really important to point out and this is why I also bring up the three atlas thing because you say, "Well, Avi Loes respected Harvard physicist." Yeah, I've had him on my podcast. I respect him. I respect his credentials for sure. Doesn't mean he's right. And if your perspective is we can make wormhole technology, then thinking that anything's flying around on a rock other than bacteria is absurd because it would mean that any that would be like thinking that any advanced life is going to ride around on horses. You're like no, we have things like rockets or like we can fly like they just don't understand the bigger paradigm of what's going on. And I think that's can also be true of people like Bob Lazar. So the point being that even really smart people, even people who are disclosing some of this stuff >> may not see the bigger the bigger picture. And I think a lot of people don't realize that. They think that like, oh, if somebody's on the they know it all, right? But they can still be we can still be blind to these things. >> Sure. >> I don't know. What do you think? >> Quite possible, bro. You make sense. I mean, it's logical. Who am I to go against logic? Logic is good. Simple is good. This is simple. Simple is good. >> Okay. Are you ready for some uh some MH370 videos here? >> Oh, absolutely. >> This is important, brother. It's important that you keep on hammering this away because there is no way in hell that these videos are not real. >> They You basically found all the elements, all of them, including the MQ9's and all the gadgetry on board. >> Well, yeah. Let me give you a quick update. So I've now decided that the whole operation was CIA as I kind of already assumed. I had >> sense actually, >> doesn't it? >> Who else would have uh access to Diego Garcia among other things? >> Diego Garcia is actually incredibly important, not just from a military standpoint. >> Anyway, yeah. >> Yeah. So, I mean, who else would have access to the orbs? Obviously, who else would have access to cameras that are on these MQ9s before the public even knew about these capabilities? Who else would conduct an operation? You know, I mean, just on an international s, you know, it all pointed to the CIA. Originally, I was blaming the Navy. You actually, which is funny. And then I was blaming the Air Force because I'm looking at Air Force drones, Air Force surveillance. And then I was just assuming that they were working with the CIA. But now I'm seeing the bigger picture is that it's really just the CIA that's procuring that has found out the CIA has their own drone fleet that is off the record and it's only known about because people just subtracted the total number of drones that were made minus the number of contracts are out there and they're like, "Oh, the CIA's got like 90 drones." >> What's plasma, brother? What's plasma? Plasma is You said it at one point in time. It's it's as if it's a phase transition material. What does it make the transition to? The materiality of our world to another possibly a quintessence. Let's call it a quintessence. Let's call it a fifth dimension. All right. So, what if the CIA is some sort of instatial agency to this breakaway civilization? >> Question one. >> Now, now neither Ashton Forbes nor Rice Salvatore Pis are suicidal. This is just simple is good. Just train of logic. That's all. >> Look, I don't want to live in a world where I don't have access to floating orbs and teleportation. So, if it is what it is, just orb me to Diego Garcia right now. You know what? I'll just live the rest of my days out in Diego Garcia sipping uh mojitos or whatever the hell the people are doing out there. But, all right, let me ask a simple question here. Is plasma simply able to reduce drag because of what you just said of its state of matter like through water? Is plasma the reason why we're able to see transmedium craft because they're just pushing right through the air and water like it's not there. Put it this way. I believe the spontaneous symmetry breaking so again spontaneous symmetry breaking of a spatial structure say is equivalent to a phase transition which means what a far from equilibrium phenomena all we're talking about here is nonequilibrium thermodynamics this is the engineering of of the pregoian effect that's all the pi effect is all it is but because plasma is what it is. It represents this almost a transmedium material something that has the ability of undergoing this phase transition by being driven far from equilibrium. That's what makes plasma so incredibly important. It's not just the fourth state of matter is what it represents. It's something between our world and something else >> really >> truly believe that >> hold on to >> and don't forget our universe is what that's a plasma nature of our universe >> the great Anthony Parat 99.9% of the universe is plasma hence the super intelligence I truly believe brother the super intelligence exists and what we're trying to do by artificial intelligence especially AGI and eventually the singularity artificial super intelligence is try to mimic what already exists in nature. >> Do you think that's the same as the Anunnaki lord or whatever it was the do you think >> did the have artificial intelligence? Of course they had such technology as to make them gods in the eyes of everyone else. I mean they even had lesser gods working for them. the giggy they actually used the the head rebel unfortunately he was kind of cut down and his clay let's say was used his material was used >> where does the super intelligence fit in the hierarchy >> that of a primate that was already existence on earth to form this Adamu this first man guess who brought it to term though because that's what's interesting you have to read Dr. the Joseph tarot because he actually went into the text the Atraasis the whole idea is that he was born the only way the Adamu was successfully produced was to be brought to term by the goddess Naga the geneticist the chief geneticist of the Anunaki. Anyway, go ahead sir. How do you reconcile that with the supreme intellig you know universal intelligence the super intelligence has the ability because of a cyclical cosmology because of this whole idea that the super force exists at the plank scale at the super density condition it initiates a super bang and because of the plasma nature of the universe again Nothing comes from nothing. Everything comes from everything. This thing has always been there. It's just has the super intelligence trying to reinvent itself, trying to come up with new formalisms, new structures, trying to experience new ideas, new concepts. Even the species that are alive in say our current universe may not have been alive in the form the former rendition of the super intelligence. It's everything. >> So the super intelligence is higher up than the Anunnaki are. >> Of course >> the super intelligence is everything. It controls everything. Controls time itself. That's why I say she who controls time controls everything. I'm alluding to the super intelligence. >> I just want some more lore on your perspective there. That makes sense. I mean, I think that a lot of people may be surprised if we find out from disclosure that there's a whole bunch of aliens and there may even be, you know, abstract thoughts, ideas like super intelligences as well that are like maybe even not as physical as we would imagine. So, could be interesting. Um, let's jump into these videos here because I want to take a look at these. These are important. and you were on the record on I think Chris Leto saying and you've already said I think multiple times you think the videos are real uh and specifically pointing out the physics associated to them which is something that I think is very important a lot of people will ask me or used to ask me at least you have you talked to VFX experts and I'm like why would I talk to VFX expert I'm staring at military videos I want to know what the physics is that's on display here so the first physics that when I look at This seems weird to me. >> I mean, obviously the orbs are pretty weird, but the lines in front and behind these orbs here, >> why do you think there's lines going on in front of >> Well, they must have a method of propulsion. So, >> okay. So, related to their propulsion for sure. Uh, do you think these are fusion reactors? >> Quite possibly the power source is fusion because it would make sense. it. You would need a very minute amount of matter to basically bring about the gargantuan power densities needed to do what they're doing, basically breaking the Schwinger limit locally around this craft. >> And this whole idea, you you see how they orbit? I think what they're really trying to do is geospatially localize the exact coordinates of the aircraft. they know there's something on the other side. I do not know whether there are six orbs or who who exactly knows exactly how it's done. But this whole idea for example using the space spacetime metric under certain condition you can write delta s is on the order of minus uh c which is the speed of light delta t. Again that delta t that minus delta t speaks to this idea of minus delta t is on the order of ta of s time delta omega / omega square whereby t of s has to do with breaking the schwinga limit. >> Mhm. >> Again nowhere in that does it say that that delta s has to come because something has say is connected between the two points. Now I understand the idea of so look quantum entanglement can be easily explained by the existence of the super force. The super force exists at every point of space and time at the plank scale. So that can explain quantum entanglement why exactly it works. Now can the super force manifest itself at say uh other other scales for example this whole idea of of um Stefan Boltzman constant time t is on the order of h bar omega it talks to what 10 to the to scales on the order of what 10 the minus4 meters with terraertz frequencies well 10 to the minus4 meters exactly what Eric W Davis talked about as the possible scale of a macro dimension. So you basically need to grow the wormhole out of this by using most likely terahertz frequencies. Exactly what your Annie said anyway. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, let's keep it simpler though. >> Okay. >> What's the difference between you have a fusion reactor patent, so I'm going to ask you a fusion related question. What's the difference between bremlung radiation and sharing radiation? >> Sheronov radiation I believe is super lumininal. So >> uh I forget exact again it has to do with accelerating charges that's what it's all about. >> Which one is which one is that >> radiation? Oh ah >> which one is which one's shooting out of these orbs? cuz I can see there's black lines coming out of these orbs. I think this has got to be a fusion reactor, which means it's got to be radiation coming out of this orb. And it's all black, so it's not hot. >> So that would mean it's either ultraviolet or x-ray. And I just can't decide what the difference between Sharon cough and brimstone radiations are. >> So I was hoping if I could get an answer or some idea. >> I wish I could tell you, brother, but again, I have many um gaps in my knowledge. I'm I'm I'm the first to recognize that I lack certain physics knowledge that say fair a mainstream physicist would have. But I've always been interested in this quote unquote exotic physics. >> I call it intuitive physics. Truly is. >> In that case then I can just say I I think these are particle accelerators. And I think what's happening is that like you said super luminal velocities of uh of particles will release uh ultraviolet light in the form of cherankov radiation and that would show up black in a thermal camera that can't pick up ultraviolet. So and that would also explain why they're shooting out in front of them because these particles are being super accelerated in the middle of these fusion reactors as they're causing fusion to occur. >> Do you think that I agree I think they're geollocating? Oh, definitely. Definitely. They're they're taking the coordinance of the aircraft. >> And this also >> go ahead. >> Think what that means. >> Yeah, exactly. >> So, this is the other thing I wanted to bring up with you. Think about what it means that they have to geollocate. And then here later on, they're spinning perfectly vertical around the plane. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And you're like, okay, well, they've now geollocated it, but >> now it's a question of depositing energy density >> and they finish it up by the by approaching the craft just enough so you deposit the maximum power density outlying the shape of the craft. Again, what's space? Space is a macroscopic quantum structure which talks to what? the fabric of our cosmic reality. That's what it arises from. >> And time, what's time? Is a peculiar type of informational energy that permeates the structure. Hence, space time continuum, but at macroscopic scales. How interesting. >> Do you think they're charging up then in some capacity here? And where do you think the capacitors are on these things? How are they storing energy? Or is it just stored in the plasma itself? Like that's it doesn't app signatures don't appear to significantly change like >> well the fusion reactors that also act as propulsion systems. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You need very small amounts of matter to keep the fusion react. These are basically stars flying stars for lack of a now are they thermonuclear devices? I'm pretty sure under certain conditions if these thing detonated they could uh take out a chunk of the earth. But anyway, >> do you think that this do you think they This is one thing I'm still not sure about. Perfectly honest. Not sure. I'm not playing games here with you on this one. I can't decide if they need the lithium in the plane to make this happen or not. And I'm also thinking like >> No, brother. Absolutely not. This is um directly um independent of the craft. What's going on here? Completely from every point of view completely. They don't need anything from the craft. The craft is there to basically be teleported. >> Yeah. >> So the fire the lithium would just have been for the fire and then not at all for the teleportation. Not a requirement. So you think they can hit the energy requirements even without >> on board fusion bomb on that plane which means I mean the reason why I asked was twofold. one because if it is requires lithium on the plane, I don't see how the plane can survive because it the energy is coming from inside the plane. It's going to blow it apart one way or another or rip or you know imploded into a >> just forming a bubble, a spaceime, a void within the vacuum. >> And that void can travel super luminally >> because it no longer has the properties of what we understand as a quantum vacuum >> which would need the ultimate speed, the speed of light. Not once you make a v a void, everything everything changes. Even the arrow of time is destroyed. That's why I'm saying that you and I will one day go in one of these temporal chambers and all of a sudden go back to the guilded age. I've always wanted to live in the past a little bit. See how it was. You know, maybe Roman Empire. I've always, you know, one of my greatest dreams is to actually save Julius Caesar right before the assassination and impale all the Senate, the entire Senate. God >> and Caesar declared the first emperor of the Roman Empire. >> You're going to go back and you're going to become Augustus Caesar. >> No, not at all. I want Julius Caesar to be the first emperor. >> See, I'm going forward, man. Screw this idea. Bye. I'm I, you know, peace out to the past. I'm gonna go like a thousand years in the future and see A, if we've made it, probably not. C, B, if we've reset ourselves, and then C to see if we're more advanced at that point. Pro. I'm guessing no, though. >> Um, more questions on that, >> so >> geollocating it. I think it looks like those orbs are making a hyper cylinder, which is, how do you describe this? It's like an invisible tunnel. But the reason why it's relevant is that it requires an actual positioning coordinate system >> to to kind of work. You'd imagine that there's an invisible tunnel thing appear disappears out of one side, reappears on the other. Do you do you think that's what's going on? Possibly. Possibly. Now, whether you have three orbs on the other, I'm not sure if that's necessary. I'll tell you the truth because the delta S is on the order of minus C. Delta T can speak to something actually being teleported to just another space-time coordinate. But again, what breaks the Schwinger limit on that? Do you need to break the Schwinga limit on the exit side or is it something that quite possibly because of quantum entanglement? It's not necessary. It's if that makes any sense. But anyway, yeah. >> Yeah, it does. No, I don't think you need to break the shrinker limit on the other side. I think it's a one-way tunnel and then I think you just have to figure out where you come out personally. But >> yeah, >> there's still mysteries. I mean, we only see videos on one side. But >> that's the thing. Oh my god. What would you give to know exactly what happened? Oh my god. >> I probably a lot. >> I give some. Yeah. >> And I think they were recording for that exact reason. I mean >> Yeah. >> Why are they recording in thermal like and color rainbow by the way? Clearly they were it's like how I would present it to you, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Like here you go south. >> Look at the beauty. Look at the beauty of this uh let's say tear in the space-time continuum because that's what quote unquote a black hole is again black hole John Archerald Wheeler he had very interesting ideas very interesting terminology I mean you know the mentor of fineman what do you expect >> let me play this clip for you I think you'll appreciate this and then I have a question related to it >> things with planes trains and automobiles absolutely um it is part of the the job And do we, you know, enhance security in those things? >> Absolutely. If that's what we need to do. People know about um the SR71 and some of the other things, the ox cart that was the predecessor. >> Uh the agency does do bleeding edge um innovative platform work. And that's probably >> Oh, that wasn't uh that. Sorry, that was not the clip I wanted to play. Hold on. >> That's Don Marriex. She was the um CIA's technology and science directorate that you were talking about. This is the one I wanted. >> This is one smart lady, I tell you. >> Freaking Oh my god. Can you imagine what she know? >> Diego. She can forward me to Diego Garcia anytime she wants, I'm sure. Um even though she retired a few years ago. But this is the clip I wanted to play because we're talking about >> CIA always CIA brother. Anyway, >> does use bombs for operations. It's not realistic in the in this particular scene. You can actually characterize the blast pattern and shape that of an explosive like to anat's eyelash. And so again, we would characterize the target environment and then we would make sure and we ran we actually built them and and dry ran did dry runs, right? Um and then provided sufficient overwatch. So there she is saying that the CIA has the capability from a blast perspective to shape an explosive down to a gnat's eyelash. Now why do I think that's relevant? Well, I'm watching a plane get orbed out uh teleported on a wormhole and I imagine the fit that's exactly what you need. >> Precision accuracy to the nano scale. Sure. and beyond because if they can produce terahertz frequencies, they're most likely >> anyway. Yeah. >> So, do you think the United States government or some faction within it has figured out fusion? >> Oh, 100%. 100%. Oh my god. I I would love to have a talked with what's her name again? I would love to talk to her in a skiff. Yeah, she she's remarkable. You can tell right off the bat that this is a super intelligent person. Yeah. >> So, you do it >> to the top. Yeah. >> So, you do think they've figured out fusion and it's been >> 100% up >> uh most likely we've had fusion since we um you know 1950s. What What was the name of those two? Um the wit. Ceil the wit and Bryce the wit. >> Yeah. I think those two were definitely adjacent at least. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, what do you think's inside those orbs? >> A very interesting um compact fusion reactor and um quite possibly coupled with the artificial intelligent or rather AGI unit. >> Almost anything is possible once you couple those two. Think about it. You have the power source and you have something that can basically do anything by using that power. >> Think about it. >> Also, if it's true that these craft can be communicated through almost telepathically, that means there's a mind matter connection that already exists. The physics of which that means the physics of consciousness most likely has been cracked too, brother. Anyway, >> yeah, >> I have been wondering about that, but I'm still kind of pushing it to the side because I'm trying to just stick with the hard physics at this point. I mean, if we can wormhole stuff, it's already kind of mindbending enough. But the orbs and the fusion side of it, to me, that's how we change humanity. Like, getting fusion out there faster is how we get this energy. Have you seen the news, this new report just from a couple days ago, I think about uh levitated dipole fusion? Ever heard of that? >> I heard of it. Yeah. >> Oh, you >> I've seen it. I've seen it. Well, you discussed it and I immediately did a little, you know, >> you got to remember that because of Secretary of War Pete Hexf, we now have Geni Genai. Mill, which is not just Gemini 3, but other things that we're privy to. Yeah, it's it's as a matter of fact I'm not gonna say well why not say it in a way a conversation I had kind of shows the bias effect most likely more than 90% is correct it just needs to be proven that's all so I'll just leave it there of course I I tapped it the moment I wanted yeah it's amazing what these uh quote unquote models can do so I can only imagine Imagine having your own fusion power plant, you know, in direct line with say Elon's Colossus. Can you imagine what's possible? Yeah. >> Uh that's one industry I don't want to be involved in. I'm happy to invest my money in those industries, but >> have you seen the uh scientist and fusion people just getting randomly assassinated in their homes? >> Well, I don't know. I'm not that much of a conspiracy theorist guy. When you can construct a pure fusion weapon that basically can go undetectable and you have rogue nations like the one that starts with I and I don't mean our ally >> then holy [ __ ] please Anunnaki come back anyway go ahead bro >> um what you said something what was your thought on that AI thing because I saw they were going to include AI in some military. I forgot to ask you about that last time and I remembered our conversation like a year ago where you didn't really you know you couldn't really talk about the use of AI. What like what changed now is now you're now it's being supported or now it's just publicly supported that military >> it's publicly supported. So I I but again I I truly believe in the triarchy of sensions. this whole idea that based on computational and algorithmic power coupled with say vector databases, so not crap from Reddit but stuff from nature, science, physical review letters. And once this AI agent is able to actually generate an original concept which is shown not to be an hallucination then most likely the metamorphosis from AI to AGI has been achieved based on just adaptive targeted prompt engineering. I believe that possibly using causal inference. So again the idea of Judea's um winner of of the Turin medal the idea of causal inference this idea this relationship between cause and effect >> can bring us to the singularity being achieved at least the artificial side because the super intelligence already there brother >> that's why we're here because >> she is there yeah >> you I mean if they're lying about fusion they could be lying about other stuff do you think they are lying about AGI as well you think they got AGI Okay. >> Yeah. >> Uh, again, my opinions are my own and both Ashton Forbes and I are not suicidal. We actually love ourselves. >> You see all this jewelry? Anyway, so >> I think they do. >> What can I say? I mean, it doesn't need to be said. I concur with your >> That's fine. That's a safe way to say. Yeah. We don't We're not trying to get in trouble here. What do you think it would take for them to like reach out to me and tell me to stop or something? Like I'm kind of surprised. >> Brother, if they would do that, uh people would notice immediately that you stopped doing your podcasts and people would completely I mean first of all uh you know Rogan's uh thing that you are super jacked. I mean you would be super freaking at that point in time you'd skyrocket. Did he be like >> Ashton Forbes? You know that super jacked guy? >> Are you saying I'm invincible? Are you saying I'm invincible? They can't touch me. >> I'm saying that you're very intelligent. That's >> okay. >> And sometimes intelligence can pass for invincibility if properly used. >> I got a real question for you. >> But you need alliances, brother. >> Yeah, >> you need alliances. Yeah, >> it's it's coming out one way or another. I feel like, you know, I got Anna Luna sniping my Twitter posts. Excuse me because she's a congress lady and I do not mean any disrespect and I know she's married, but she is >> Yeah, she's highly attractive. >> An unbelievable specimen of the human race. So anyway, yeah. >> Yeah. >> Here's a question for you. Do you believe that wormholes andor the associated physics including five-dimensional physics is classified? Do you think it's secret? >> Say that again brother. >> Do you think wormhole physics andor the associated physics related to it fivedimensional physics for example do you think this is classified physics? Like do you think uh for example giving you a practical example Ferris Williams do you think they were like oh sorry that's all classified you know people can theorize but you're not allowed to publicly say it if you know >> you may possibly think so I couldn't possibly comment >> okay interesting I am going to think so I am going to think so I do think so I think it absolutely is the reason why I asked was because of that Obama situation that was So weird because Obama just says guy asks him if aliens are real and he's like yeah like you know aliens are real. I haven't seen them. He says he hasn't seen them but they're real. And then he gets asked the follow you know he does the backtrack and he says well yes it's a big universe that's out there. >> But then Trump is saying he he won't say anything about the aliens but he says >> Obama said something he shouldn't. He broke classified information. I'm sitting here going the only thing he said was that aliens are real. I don't know how that could be breaking classified information. But then I thought, huh, if Trump's not lying and I think Trump it tells the truth way more than people think. Then like even stuff like wormhole physics could just be like classified in general. They might just have like things that seem like they shouldn't be classified classified. So my question to you is do you think that's true? Do you think they've got stuff that like really is like you would think never think of it being classified and it's classified? Why' the president lie? President has no reason to lie. As a matter of fact, he ordered our secretary of war, Pete Hexath, to come up with the material. >> Why would aliens be classified? >> Remember that quite a while ago there was some sort of report that said that people would just go crazy. They would say, "Wait a second, because if we were made in the image of God, and how about this three and a half footers or, god forbid, the reptilian dudes, cuz the other the the cute ones, the the the tall, blonde, and blue-eyed, you know, Aryans, let's call them that, you know, you can't question that. Most likely that's Anu Naki bloodline or who knows what. I mean, I'm not going to say the name giants, but how about the Nephilim? How about all this biblical terminology that all of a sudden went into obscurity? How about the tales of the Smithsonian all of a sudden disappearing certain artifacts? what it's all all about. Does it talk to the Anunaki? Because there there pictures that actually show an Anuna key and you actually see this guy sitting on a throne and he is still much taller than the people that are bringing him homage that are bringing homage to him. >> How >> I'm going to go ahead and tell you here >> what were these anyway? Yeah, >> I'm generally not an esoteric guy. You know, but I wonder I do wonder about these things. And this is one I've been wondering a lot about a lot. >> Ever since Hinrich Schlean with a copy, sorry to interrupt you, but I got to go back to this. Every every time Hinrich Schlean just a copy of the Iliad under his arm, finds what could be Troy. You really believe that myths are just myths, brother, or do you think they contain truth? >> I think they contain truth. And I think that's the Graham Hancock approach, right? Is that these myths all contain an element of truth. I think our Bible stories do. And I think if you look at from a different perspective, he looks at it from the disaster perspective. >> But if you look at from the physics perspective, I think it's also really interesting. >> And what I tell people is the same thing I said about Obama is that once you know we can make a wormhole, of course you know aliens are real. I don't need to see aliens. Aliens are real if I can make a wormhole because the whole situation of aliens not being real is now resolved. Just like that. Just like that. Poof. So, uh, my thing about the aliens being interesting is that okay, if I take that to his logical stream, I say we can make a wormhole. Aliens must be real. I go, I wonder if like we are aliens or like we are hybrids of aliens or that maybe the tall whites that were aliens like what if we just made a wormhole and we ourselves on some random planet. Like imagine you jump through a wormhole and now you're on a random exotic planet and you're like, "Oh well, I guess this is my life now. This is my I can't go back. I screwed up." Like what if something crazy like that happened? And these giants that we saw were like the early denisins that came from another planet or something like that and then they just bred into this planet. Now we're what's left. You know, it seems kind of crazy. >> Who knows? But the whole idea is that the gods had to create a flood to get rid of them and most likely did not get rid of all of them. Because think about it, these weren't stupid creatures. >> They would have im immediately said, you know, that mountain over there, that flood might not reach that peak. >> Hey, look, there's a cave over there. Anyway, just Yeah, let's stay away from the topic of giants. Supposedly, it gets people really scared >> cuz it's a very interesting. >> I'm going to talk to Timothy Amberino again soon hopefully because uh I like him. And I think the giant the giant thing to me also is one of those things that's like so far out there that like nobody even gives the time a day kind of like with wormholes. And so that's kind of why I'm also interested because I'm like, hm, >> I just remember that picture that >> picture truly a pictograph of the Anunnaki and supposedly kings bringing homage to to him and he's sitting on a throne sitting and he's still at least two and a half times taller than they are. So if he was to get up, this thing would be about 18 foot tall. Anyway, just leave it there. >> Okay. Well, I've got some more physics related stuff that I wanted to ask you about. Uh but before that, Luna, did you hear that Anna Plina Luna said that she doesn't think that they're man-made? The UFOs that we're seeing in the um things? I challenged her to a debate formally because >> Good. >> I mean, I'm with you. I think that you can explain this stuff as you >> take pride in being a human and you you with your intellect you are able to figure certain things out even though you do not have the physics pedigree that these people demand in order for you to be called a subject matter expert. How dare you voice this grandiose ideas concepts that only belong to a Nobel Prize winning physicist. How dare you? because I believe Joel the plumber can win a Nobel Prize anyway. Yeah. >> So, I guess the push here is that we need like how do we get past this? I mean, this is a big problem I think is that >> people want to blame the aliens for this stuff. And yes, there's a good number of people that have been watching this, watching my content, taking interest, but in general, you know, I still think the vast majority of the public still looks at it as like if it's not explainable, it's got to be aliens. It's got to be extra, you know, they use extradimensional as, you know, oh, is it going to come from the mystery dimension? Do you agree with that or do you do what's your perspective on extradimensional? Do you think there's multiple universes? >> Does that look okay? It looks good, >> brother. Between you and I, do we need multiple universes? I think >> as long as the super intelligence is around, if she desires to create multiple universes, fine. But I think she's fine with just one. >> One that can reinvent itself at will. Whoa. Isn't that the idea that the quantum balance that we're talking about, the super force residing at that super density condition generating a super bang? What if these super bangs can occur at will? Anyway, just leave it there. >> I think that's a good mindset. I mean, that is really what my view is that it's not that we couldn't create a new universe. Uh I think it's a matter of do we need a new universe to explain any of this because the physics allows for like in the UFO phenomenon, the inside of the craft to be bigger than what appears to be on the outside. So, you could argue you're creating space by doing that. So create new universes seems totally within the realms of the physics. just it seems like we're we're broaching on the fantastical sci-fi when they say stuff like, "Oh, the aliens are interdimensional." Because I would never describe somebody, you know, I wouldn't say S is uh what's a good example? Like S can fly. Just because you can get on an airplane doesn't mean you can fly, of course. Right. So just because aliens are inter dimensional doesn't mean that they're technically like, you know, actually manipulating the dimensions. They're using technology to just traverse between them. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> The engineering of science fact into or rather the the engineering of science fiction into into science fact is definitely achieved just by watching the physics of these orbs. Truly, this is what we're actually watching. The engineering of science fiction into science fact. And I think well I mean there's parts of reasons for that right like they there's uh truth in the science fiction like I think the ideas were seated to these people and then that's how it comes out in the media. >> Yes. But this idea for example in Star Trek that you need uh this teleportation device to dematerialize you and you remater No. No. Both you and I have look I believe a special forces brigade even an army can dematerialize here >> and reappear here almost instantaneously rematerialize here how >> and that brings >> the enemy domain almost instantaneously again the speed of light would have something to do with this >> did you see that China is this is a new report but it's based on an old a few old test that China is supposedly working on next generation thermonuclear weapons. Did you see that? >> Oh, God almighty. No, I didn't see that. >> I thought you might appreciate your >> because pure fusion. Well, I I've spoken to, as a matter of fact, when I gave my uh uh my my briefing to the uh you know, the invention evaluation board at PAX, I actually spoke to the possibility of a space-time modification weapon. Now, what's interesting is that the vice commander, I believe, right there and then classified the information and yet somehow it appeared that slide appeared within public domain. I don't know who put it out there. >> You think China figured out the orbs? You think they figured out this technology? You think they figured out those videos? The Chinese mind is incredibly uh elevated, extremely intelligent, brother. This is not the China of in the time of Nixon when they weren't allowed to have a free thought of their own. This is basically a whole different ball game, whole different animal. >> Do you what do you think the foreign policy should be towards China given that information? Do you think we should be trying to make peace with them or you think we should be just trying to annihilate them? >> Unification, brother. Unless the nations of this earth come together, one day we will live to regret it. out there, the free space of our galaxy, possibly even beyond. There's someone someone out there that most likely is watching us with very greedy eyes because we have something special here. The earth is a very special place, a true Goldilock zone. Anyway, >> what do you think of the Venezuelan raid and the discombobulator report? What do you think the discombobulator was? Did you look into it all any of that? >> Not at all, brother. I try to stay away from certain things. All >> I'm pretty sure of is that just as the president say, we have weapons that can manipulate space and time. I don't know if he directly said that, but he's implied it. Yes, the the science and tech the science and technology guy for them that did though for sure. >> Um, okay. Well, let's just talk generally about physics. And why is piso electricity considered like fringe physics and science? >> I don't know. I don't know because the whole thing comes so I mean it's it's so um mundane really. The idea you push a current through one of these materials, it makes it vibrate by its by the nature of its structure. Again, structure is essential. When coupled with vibration, especially vibration that could possibly undergo resonance, wonderful things can happen. The engineering of magic is feasible under certain conditions. So are you saying that I mean is piso electricity strictly a crystallized phenomenon like when you have a material it's crystallized and then because the pressure now you're distorting the chemical or the atomic structure is that >> most that definitely has to do with the structure of the material. Most definitely. Yes. The reason why I asked because the other physics topic I want to discuss with you is um dynamic nuclear polarization uh and and manipulating spin through >> I never looked into that. I I found it way too complex. I started reading I remember I started reading maybe after like second page after the introduction and it just lost me. >> I didn't see the math. I didn't I I need to see it again. Simple is good. I truly live by that dictum >> and to me that seemed complex. >> Why is piso electricity important for your I think it's the superconductor patent right? >> Yeah. >> You coat you coat it you coat like aluminum and pisoelectric material like a thin layer right did I remember correctly? >> It's it's basically an insulator. It's coated with a piso electric material. >> Okay. Insulator. idea again. What did I just say a while before? Spontaneous symmetry breaking speaking to an abrupt face transition. >> That's why. Look carefully at what I'm talking about. Then you'll understand. >> You really are initiating. It's exactly what Victor Lakno, nobody says it better than Victor Lacno. Nobody says it better because that's exactly what I'm doing. I'm actually engineering an a Boseey Einstein condensate and then I'm moving it along that interstatial line between the insulator and the the pisoelectric coating. >> Don't forget the polectric materials are also superconducting but at low temperatures but they still have the superconducting property in them. >> Yeah. Really? So the the >> what's a superconductor >> photons slow down in photo in a superconductor. >> What do phonons have to do with photons? >> Yeah, >> I won't say more than that. But >> okay, >> once you start coupling the ideas, put it in into even Grock is good enough. But um Gemini 3 I think beats it. That's my opinion. >> Yeah. If I just my conceptual viewpoint would be that and how this relates is that we say there's this extra dimension and we look at like the phonons is the lattice structure of our material. What we're doing here is we've got our insulator. We've got our piso electric material and we're putting them right next to each other as our our boundary condition that we're creating. We're putting our charge through it. Vibrate. Shake it all up a little bit and then we're going to have we're going to create a superconductive layer boundary condition essentially. And that and that's what I think you're doing in the um transmedium craft patent. You've got and I think you can just although maybe it's a little bit different because you use like ra uh microwave frequencies and I think right or even sound potentially and you vibrate >> they could be microwave they could be terraertz >> yeah to create a plasma and you're basically creating a boundary condition you're create you're slipping your object from separating >> spontaneous symmetry breaking directly hinting to a what an abrupt space transition. I won't say more than that. >> The physicists out there should understand what I'm alluding to. The great Steven Weinberg also believed in something similar. Anyway, >> you think the plasma orbs are doing something similar to that patent then in terms of like I mean you say you have these cavities right in your triangle patent. You have these cavities all along it filled with gas. >> Quite possible. I think their design is even more simple. I think they were able to engineer something remarkable there. I think those orbs are quite amazing and because of the plasma nature quite possibly conscious. Remember Dr. Joseph Pharaoh? >> Yeah, you got to have a man brother. Oh my god, you got to have a mom. And if you do, please invite me with him >> and and and say that I've been like >> I think his his book on the secret of the unified field is one of the best books out there that's supposed to be uh um non-physics in in I mean it is based on physics but it's because of his pedigree again physicists put him down. They shouldn't because he talks about Gabriel Cone. It he talks about oh my god Gab Gab Gabriel Th Cone was a giant of a man. >> The only other giant in my opinion was Charles Proteius Steinmets Steinmets even though he was of a rather small stature. He's a giant of a intellect. Amazing man. Look into the works of Charles Proteius Styats. It's the guy that actually figured out why electrical discharges especially when driven to certain conditions. It's why we can actually use alternating current in our current grid. Otherwise, these things would have to be anyway I won't go there. Just look into the works of Charles Proteius Steinman. Amazing man. >> Huh. >> Einstein also considered him a great intellect. Einstein was no fool. Yeah. >> How do you think we can use entanglement as a resource? How do we harness entanglement as a resource? Any thoughts on that? Not at this point in time, but I'm pretty sure if if I put my mind to it, I'll come up with something. It's a brother. I'll tell you the truth. Like lately I've almost been like uh I'm I'm so it's beyond like at one point in time I was angry and frustrated. I'm just I just realized at this point in time that if truly all this stuff already exists >> and think about and is still being hidden. Think about what that means. Think about we are, put it this way, brother. Let me put it this way. They sell us slavery and call it the American dream while we are living a lie and call it freedom. You understand what I'm alluding to? Oh yeah. I mean it it's definitely the biggest black pill of all for sure. But at the same time, I mean I still enjoy life. So >> of course. Of course. >> But >> of course. >> So here's the point because I guess the point and I'm going to ask you a follow-up related to what you just said at the end here because I do have that's kind of a personal type of related question. But before we get to that, the thing about entanglement is that it breaks down once you try to measure it. It's actually a huge restriction, right? It's like and when we produce entanglement, we like we split a photon and we send it in two different ways. So you could say like how the question is how are they teleporting in Boeing 77 using some orbs? They clearly have figured out some mechanism that is not based on it's not restricted to that. And this is what I talk about when I'm saying using entanglement as a resource is somehow causing entanglement to occur spontaneously or keeping things entangled that are not somehow without while they're still being measured, observed, recorded because we're watching it on a camera. So >> yes, >> you know, those are being actively measured while we're >> um you know, it's not it's not a cat inside of a box that we can't see right there. >> So this is something I think is very important whether or not you have the answer or not. I just wanted to point out that I think this is a very important question from the physics perspective that should be asked and then needs to probably be addressed related to this is what is that mechanism for generating entanglement as a resource. I think they >> coincidence or rel is engineering the super force at a higher scale. What if the super force has to do greatly with quantum entanglement and somehow we have found a way just like let's call them aliens for one of a better name they also propel the spacecraft by engineering the super force at different scales than just the plank scale >> yeah I think what you're speaking to is this idea that if you understand there's this extra dimension now all of a sudden maybe you can engineer that extra dimension. If you can engineer, then you can engineer entanglement. And even if we don't know what the core mechanism is, we know that that assuming there is this extra dimension, there must be a way to engineer it. Right? >> Eric W. Davis speaks to a macro dimension, another dimension at this macro scale of 10 the minus4 cm 10 theus 4 meters. So 0.1 cm. If indeed this has to do with the terohertz frequencies and so forth, maybe there's a way to widen the gap again. But if that is true, that means somehow we're able to tap the super force in much higher scales than the plank scale 10 theus 33 cm, which is remarkable. >> I think it has to be true. So, let's speak to your time travel situation. Here's the reason why I disagree. >> All right. >> I think I first of all, I agree we can manipulate time. Of course, time dilation I think is proven. I also think that you're right about the math and that you are creating a negative temporal excursion. My limitation is I think you are only able to send the bubble back in time, not send everything else on the outside. You can't reverse the entropy of the universe. So it's 2025 right now. >> There's no going back to 1970. Even if you go in a time machine, you're not going back to 1970. And the reason why I say this is that unless John Kramer is lying. He could be, but I don't think he is. He said he did an experiment in about 2014, I want to say, where they tested retrocausality and EPR experiments and they found even though it should work, his signaling mechanism which bypasses measurement >> somehow still the retrocausality broke down meaning that >> but was he able to break the Schwinger limit because that's a must. >> That's a must. That's the only way you break the error of time as far as I know. Maybe there's another way to break the error of time. But that's definitely one way to break the error of time. >> Interesting. So you're saying that if you break the swinger limit, then all that experimentation, all those rules, all those experiments go out the limb >> void within the vacuum. You have created a void within the vacuum. So hand >> that could be a loophole for him to for him to say publicly that things work a certain way but you know that there may be another way around it because that's the impression I get honestly from his papers is like the guy like this is also what I get from George Hathaway is that these guys love this topic. It's like their favorite thing. They've dedicated their life to it. But then they're also >> not only are they like debunking the debunkers but they also like debunk themselves. They're like up it's not possible but if it were possible it would be like this sliver of window that makes it but you're like wait so you know it is possible like you know and same with George Hathway he tests all these things he's like oh the spinning superconductor doesn't produce gravitation doesn't produce anti-gravity but you're like I'm going to keep testing it for my whole I'm going to spend my whole life on this you're like why are you spend your whole life on it if you don't think it's real >> Eric W Davis is almost the same and don't forget Martin Tmar the whole idea remember he's the one that at first he was very intrigued by the em drive and then did away with it. He's the one that challenged the hell out of the Hayasaka and Takuchi experiment. Anyway, yeah. >> Yeah. And Eric Davis constantly says, I even had Dave Rossi ask him, it was my question about does he think, do we think that the military anybody has, you know, wormhole technology? No. No. Nobody could possibly have had it. Nobody could know. I'm like uh I think I think they know and I think they they helped work on it would be my agreement. Also another question for you on that front. >> Yes sir. >> Um what do you think about the time frame of like the technology? Those videos I made MH370 disappeared in 2014. >> And a lot of people are like why would they test this on the plane? One thing I'm sure about is that's not a test. Like there that wasn't the first time they broke that technology. >> Definitely not the first time. >> No. >> I mean that's a >> this was established technology. They knew exactly what they're going to the effects were. >> No. They planned it out. So then the question though is how far back does it go? You know, and >> to me though, I don't think it go like I I think there's a an explanation where we figure out fusion even going back to the 50s, but we don't figure out the teleportation until the 90s or 2000s. And that and that could be and we may even have known it's real but still not been able to figure it out because of the level of precision required to pull it off. What do you think? >> I have this instinctual belief that Teller cracked it. >> Yeah. Edward Teller did. Yeah. You know he's the one that posted the first docu. >> You know this guy was a true genius. >> Oh no. should be definitely one I mean his >> value should be skyrocketing but because of what he did to openheimer they won't forgive him. >> So >> when I saw his paper 1992 uh dipole fusion propulsion paper that's the levitated dipole fusion I'm talking about with the rings and that's what Loheied Martin built. In fact, I'm looking at a diagram talking about a magnetic bottle and that's what the Loheed Martin guys is literally talking about in the video. >> Like they just took Edward Teller's his his idea and they just took it to the next level in my opinion. >> But let me ask you this. So, >> okay. Well, let's go back to the time travel thing for a second. Do you agree or disagree? How do you what is your counterargument? Cuz I'm saying that time travel is possible, but only the kind of time travel where like you would go back in time like you would reverse your age because the only thing is you're changing the time of this bubble, not changing the time of the outside. >> Definitely a a reverse temporal chamber is feasible. an idea of possibly even say you have cancer and you can somehow put your liver back into a previous stage where yeah the cancer is no longer there and >> and quite possibly with nutrition and so forth make sure the cancer never evolves. >> Who knows? I think that's definitely possible. A temporal re rejuvenation chamber is 100% possible. my opinion. >> I think I have an idea, but anyway, just leave it there. >> So, how do you reconcile how do you reconcile the idea that you could go back in time without multi-universe? >> Brother, to me, once you break the shingle limit, what we understand is causality, what we understand about the grandfather paradox no longer holds. None of this holds. If the great Stephven Hawings chronology protection conjecture ceases to hold because you have broken the air of time. I believe physics as we understand it is now in void within that void that void within the vacuum. That would be new physics. I don't like it. I don't like it because that doesn't give me a pure, you know, I think Fineman wouldn't like it either because he wants to, you know, it's all about the why. You want to get to the root cause and you just say, well, you get to the root cause and it's just magic. Just anything goes. You get you get to the underline and anything goes. I don't like that. I don't like it. I'm not saying I agree or disagree. I'm just saying I don't like it. But >> again, experiment experiment trumps theory every time. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Experiment trumps theory every time walks through the door right now. Otherwise, all this is theory. Theoretical mambo jambo. What did they call my bice effect? Uh, quantum mambo jambo and physics war salad. There you go. >> Toss it, baby. Toss it. >> It's like the Futurama joke though. Those people that called your things quackery, they themselves have been called quacks. So, >> uh, you know, they got oneuped, they got intercepted uh, on. >> Let me ask you this, though. Yeah. >> What do you want >> out of all this? You've now been doing podcasts for a couple years after being in obscurity. >> Uh you've made a lot of different proclamations. You made a a plea to Elon once. You made a a plea here to Pete Hegsth. Um you also warned in the past about China figuring this technology out. I mean, what are you trying to get out of all this? What do you want? >> You want to know what I truly want, brother? I want this world to be far better off than the place it's in right now. I want unification. I want people to come together. I want people to resolve their inhibitions from the point of view of being so divided. I have never seen our country especially just our country in itself so polarized. People no longer having anything to do with their relatives blood. We're talk about ties of blood being severed based on politics. Are you kidding me? I just That's all I want. If If it takes for me to give up on my ideas to basically never have the price effect proven correct or anything of that nature, just stay in the classified domain for the rest of eternity if need be. But I want unification not just of the nation of the whole world. I want us to have a chance of survival. Brother, I foresee something instinctual tells me we are under great threat. And I want this nation, this this world to be able to survive whatever comes its way, whatever threatens earth even in the future. That's all I want. It's awesome. >> I want >> So then here's the last question for you for today, which is because of this disclosure stuff that's happening right now. >> People may want to reach out to you and talk to you. You know, you have a bunch of patents. You've worked with the Navy. You got the pedigree and what have you. You've been saying the right names. Hal Pudof, some of them know that guy. Uh even the arrow officer I spoke to, I think about all the time. The way that this guy was talking about Hal Ludaf, like I was just like, "This guy must be huge." I'm this random arrow officer talking about. >> Don't forget J. Stratton came over to see me fly by two Navy commanders, >> right? And and took me in a special room and asked me about a high frequency gravitational wave generator based on whose advice? Halves. So, >> so the question is what would you tell these Congress people that want to know what they would they're going to say this? They're going to say, "Hey, S, what should I know about this UFO stuff? What what's the most important thing that I should know about this?" What's your answer? that it can be a panacea to the energy needs of the entire mankind forever more. Or it can be one of the greatest doomsday weapons ever, ever to be designed in the history of humanity. Something that could end Earth as we know it. That pale blue dot, imagine one day just vanishing. >> Do you think it should be disclosed? Yes, but carefully and quite possibly in steps. Not all at once. Most definitely not all at once. >> Well, thank you, S. I appreciate this conversation. It's been a great one. Any last thoughts? >> I truly hope that uh our um armed services uh brothers and sisters are protected at all times. And um I want cooler minds to prevail. I want the diplomatic means to prevail before hard-headed individuals get in the room and convince the president otherwise. I just want us to be happy >> and unified. >> That's all. >> Thanks. >> Thank you very much. And thank you everybody in the super chat and the chat that participated today, guys. We appreciate it and we'll be back soon for another Hard Truth Podcast. Have a great day.