The TRUTH about Fusion - Hard Truth w/ Salvatore Pais
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# The TRUTH about Fusion - Hard Truth w/ Salvatore Pais Welcome back everybody to another Hard Truths podcast. My guest Salvatore Py requires no introduction. However, I am going to give an introduction here because there's a great bio that I found earlier this week. Salvatore Caesar Py received the PhD degree in mechanical and aerospace engineering from Case Western University in Cleveland, Ohio. He was a NASA graduate research fellow with the NASA Glenn Research Center in Cleveland. He was with NAVAIR, NOCAD, NASPAC, Puxet River, Maryland, USA. He was a general engineer, advanced concepts analyst with Northrup Grumman Aerospace Systems where he uh currently and currently he works with the Department of Defense, Department of Navy Strategic Systems Program in Washington DC. This was a few years ago where he's involved in a permanent civilian capacity. his advanced knowledge of theory, analysis and modern experimental and computational methods in aerodynamics along with understanding of air vehicle and missile design especially in the domain of hypersonic power plant and vehicle design. Furthermore, he has expertise in electrol optics and emerging quantum technologies particularly the laser power generation arena and high energy electromagnetic field generation. besides condensed matter physics such as the emergent breakthroughs of room temperature superconductivity as related to advanced field propulsion. Okay, without further ado, my friend Salvatore Pis, how you doing today, brother? >> Oh, brother, happy new year to you, sir. You >> Why do you not say your uh resume more often? Holy crap, man. >> Your words are amazing, bro. Ah, come on, man. It's all hype. It's all words, bro. Look, what matters is what we leave behind, and that's our ideas, our concepts. And as long as they're original, they signify something. As long as you impart them to an honorable school boy and say he or she can understand what's going on, then there you go. >> Do you ever worry that you're on like an Iranian or Russian hit list for people that need to be like taken out? >> Not at all. I'll tell you the truth, there's so many more that are so so much brighter. We have some incredible people, brother. You trust me, there are people that you will never then know the names of, never ever uh that have never been on a podcast or anything of that nature, but they're absolutely brilliant and the enemy has no idea of their existence. Thank God for that. Look, the bottom line is this. Let me tell you what guides me, okay? I call it the pais doctrine of physical engineering or rather engineering of physics. Simple is good while complex is not. Again, simple is good while complex is not. These seven words guide everything I do. So, >> um, do you work with some of those brilliant people that you think that nobody will ever know their names, but they're super smart? >> I can never say that, nor can I say whom I worked with, but put it this way, brother. None of the pis effect work, none of the super force work come from any program that I worked on. As a matter of fact, this is no joke. All this will one day be proven original, completely original. Now, the serend the serendipity that it brought and I tell you right off the bat, the disclosure folks, let's call them that cuz I did promise you not to use certain >> Yeah, we'll be >> strong words. But the disclosure folks hated how these patent applications entered the scene out of nowhere. And I am pretty sure that uh certain people who shall remain nameless were completely taken aback by them as they are by for example your ability to read physics papers especially a neutronic fusion for certain propulsion characteristics such as the busousard ramjet the work the work of Paul Seiz one of the greatest that we have ever had in hypers Sonics ever. >> You ever work with him? >> Oh, I wish. No. No. He was He's a legend. He's an absolute legend. No. >> Well, see, that's the thing. I do read scientific papers. And, you know, recently I've been reading your scientific papers, you know, and so this is definitely something I I want to talk to you about. Uh, but before we get to that, I just have more general questions. You know, I'm a I'm just a healthcare IT guy, but I have >> Yeah. Yeah. who who understands what beta squares on the order of RQ means. Oh, by the way, and this is incredibly important. >> It's not high beta and I believe you stated this once. It's not the high beta that we should focus on. It's this beta on the order of one that really matters. The whole idea that plasma pressure is on the order of the magnetic field pressure. >> Meaning what? >> Asking about that. >> Meaning what? B square beta square. Beta square is on the order of R cub R being your characteristic say length of your reactor or whatever unit you want to call this say uh a neutronic fusion unit which means what the compact reactor talks to beta on the order of one. That's why and I remember you stated you stating something of that nature that it's the beta on the order of one that matters. Yeah, 100% on the money. >> It's not the high beta higher than one. You want a beta of one, right? You want it to be because it's about a >> talk beta squares on the order of R cubed. R cubed on the order of one. Meaning what? You really want something compact. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> And I will explain exactly why >> think okay let's go first principles and um as a first order approximation. This is not magneto hydrodnamics where terms like dbdt and the um certain co of the of the b field times a characteristic velocity enter into the equation. No, this is just the ideal gas law. So we're talking about p pressure is on the order of row rt r being a gas constant t being temperature row being density. Mhm. >> Now there's another way for compressible fluids which a gas would be again before the gas phase before the plasma phase you really have a gas. So a a a gas at very high temperature would become ionized. Hence plasma the fourth state of matter. Now this is very interesting. A pressure is an energy density. We're talking about jewels per meter cub. That's what pressure is. It's like a force per surface area. So, so the way now notice PL P is on the order of row RT even for ideal gases again first over first order approximation think of the plasma just as a regular gas but with a very high temperature so that means what your energy density is really guided by just temperature linear no good there's another way pressure is on the order of row density times the characteristic speed squared. And that's where the PI effect comes in because that characteristic velocity can be written under an accelerated mode as your amplitude. Say we're talking about vibration, not just actual spin here, but vibration. Omega square times a characteristic time. You see that omega square? Bang. It becomes a quartic from a quadratic to a quartic. So we talk about highly nonlinear >> that's why that that idea that energy density exactly. So what you really want to do is accelerate the plasma within the core which is I remember you mentioning something of that nature. That's exactly what the polywell truly does >> in a yeah >> the plasma compression fusion device. The one I'm talking about the dynamic fuses. This is where they come in. We're talking about under certain re like a resonance condition. Look at equation seven in that paper. It's very important. It talks about uh >> an energy amplification that becomes exponential with time and a characteristic angular velocity given a certain harmonic oscillation. It's extremely important. We are talking about breaking the schwinger limit brother. Now the whole idea is not to break the showing a limit. You don't want that in a a neutronic fusion device because then you have created that wormhole that you well know >> and show in the videos. I'm 100% I'm 100% sure I'm coming out 2026 new year. I'm just saying it now. I'm 100% sure you that you're 100% right. These videos are real. be real. Not CGI, not someone's idea of real. >> Real. >> They definitely are real. I'm not even that means. >> Would you know what that means? If they had this technology in 2014, >> uh what does it mean? >> Imagine what they have now, brother. Which >> Yeah, imagine what they have now. >> Remember, uh give me some time to talk about weapons of time. >> Oh, we're going to we're going to >> All right, brother. So, go ahead. Um there's the video. So, let me ask you. Oh, man. So many things I wanted to ask you here. I guess the first one though is did you know these videos were real because of the the plasma orbs? Like is that the sign that like gave it away? Because I mean you have a scientific paper about a fusion reactor and like that has to be high beta because these have to be high or compact. >> There were so many things brother so many things. the the the moment they they started pulsating within the unit. The only way you want to do that is to pack as much energy density within that area within that cross-section to create the breaking of the swinger limit. That's the only thing. How how can someone unless you 100% understand the physics and have seen this happen and why would you create CGI if you actually have the videos. Think about it. You were you and I are on the same frequency. We're vibrating at the same frequency. You and I know this thing is real now. >> Yeah. >> I mean this is disclosure right there. Whether the Anyway, no names. >> So how did you get involved in plasma physics and science? >> If I tell this is a lot of people will not believe me because they look at that paper. As a matter of fact, the chief editor who read that paper said uh uh you know who did you study on there? Do you know I have a letter? I actually uh I I have it somewhere. >> Exactly. >> The director of the Princeton Plasma Physics Institute wrote to me because in that paper I mentioned that um I speak of three devices, one of them being the Lockheed Martin, the other the Polywell and the Princeton. Right. >> He wrote to me on letterhead with anyway basically um saying that uh he disagrees with the with the way I interpret that uh their device does not uh how should I say have high performance and so forth. I never wrote back. I look just the fact that he bothered show me that he was bothered. You understand? Just the fact that he bothered to write that letter showed me that he was bothered with my idea. And of course he, you know, later on the letter he tries to say, "Oh, have you looked at this and this? I think your idea is not new really because the chief editor that approved after a long time. This went in two different different peer reviews because when they found out I'm not a plasma physicist, oh, they took me for another peer review." But the uh the person that had the final say said this he's never seen this idea before and he was he was he was totally blown back and he did ask me is this part of a weapon system. So he understood that this can lead to a plasma disruption fusion weapon that you and I discussed. You know the whole idea of Zpinch with a >> fusion twist. Anyway, sounds like a cocktail, right? Cocktail, baby. >> Yeah, it would sound crazy to anybody else that hadn't seen a plane disappear out of this guy. Um, >> and then >> Yeah. So, he asked you, but So, who did you So, I just didn't answer the question, though. Where did you why involved in plasma physics? I mean, you're writing patents about fusion reactors and your >> I've always been interested in fusion. So, so I I read as much as I could and and uh I remember when I came upon the Polywell device by uh Dr. the busard. I I hold him in the highest of ste of of esteem. To paraphrase his great saying, the whole idea that he's never seen a star in the shape of a donut. I mean, this man was not only a a great physicist. He had this comedic character that was just, oh god, I wish I had met him. >> I mean, he is the guy that help he was on the committee to to come up with the idea of building the tokamax. And he's the guy that's all over them, saying that that it's useless. It's a waste of money. It's just a money printing device. It doesn't actually going to get anywhere. And then >> the Russians gave it to us to set us back. >> The Russian so we never get there. Like >> Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. To make sure >> there's fusion reactors everywhere in the sky and none of them are shaped like a donut. Like >> it goes again. Beta squares on the order of R cubed. Beta squares on the order of R cubed. The moment you realize that the plasma pressure must be on the order of the magnetic field pressure to truly optimize the fusion device, then you actually see that this has to be compact. R cube is on the order of one, which means what? This thing should be like a sphere of about 1 meter in diameter >> or radius, >> which should be like 2 meters in diameter. So whatever's inside that orb, say that orb is I don't know. So let me just explain people is really a 2 meter device something of that nature but anyway >> yeah let me explain what just s explaining there. So when we say beta squared r cubed uh the r cubed is a radius. So that's in meters. So one is what we need it to be because if you're cubing it the number gets really big really quickly. So even if you took two and you cube it now that number becomes eight. So that reduces the overall equation significantly. So we need that number to be as small as possible or we we need that number to be one so that uh that's what we're trying to achieve. So that says okay now we have an idea for how big this device should be. It should be one meter. I mean that's the ideal situation. It could be a little bit power the power plant but the orb itself is going to be >> the plasma shooting out is going to be bigger than that because the device on the inside is going to be the one meter device. >> You'll be like an aura around the thing. So the whole thing is driven the whole thing is driven by this simple relation. Beta squar is on the order of r cube where i is your characteristic radius say of your of your um fusion device. >> And let me ask >> beta as you well know is that plasma pressure divided by >> magnetic field pressure which you you are the only one that I heard optimally should be on the order of one. you you hit that thing on the like boom. >> It was Jay Young Park that taught me that and I I was surprised that I hadn't figured out that it was about balance, not about making your beta as high as possible because it makes more sense because everything when we talk about resonance and waves, everything's always about balance. It's not about just cranking it up as high as possible. But this wasn't you just brought something else that I've been wondering about on my live streams watching this was the thing about the polywell device is that it's the structure is still external to where the fusion is happening. So when I look at this though I can see that the plasma is clearly on the outside at least I think so unless those the green heat signatures are the structure on the inside but I don't think it is. I think that's like either the hot electrons or maybe a conductor or something. So, what do you think they changed then here? Because I don't think the poly well is exactly what we're looking at here, but I do think it's the basis for these orbs. I think that the poly well was incorporated in the hypersonic designs to turn it into an engine, which was all the negative drawbacks of the polywell are all solved by flying it around through the sky. I mean, not being able to collect enough hydrogen. I mean, that was the big one. >> So, that's all that's just solved right away. >> So, I think they happen. >> Why does it look like a sphere? Go ahead. >> Simple is good while complex is not. That why you're seeing what you're seeing is discussion for skip, brother. Definitely. >> Yeah. No, I mean I think a lot of my stuff's discussion for skiffs. It's too bad that they haven't. Uh >> it is amazing that they have not contacted you yet with the things that you've been saying say within the last two or three. Uh it's very interesting. It's very >> I'm not going to stop you. I'm not stopping. So, >> it means two thing. Well, it could mean two things. Number one, the disclosure folks got to them. >> You know who they are. I mean, freaking they're the ones who are on Rogan and >> the ones definitely afraid to talk to me about about a video of a plane disappearing with three orbs spinning around that proves all of their physics real. >> I got Let me just pop off for a second because the how Pudof email is one of the weirdest. Like why did he even reply? It almost feels like his guilt forced him to reply to me. Because if you're just going to avoid all the questions and topics, why bother replying at all? Why send a one-s sentence answer back? This guy's talking about, "Oh, I don't know what a neutronic fusion and and and how orbs could be teleported." Bro, what are you talking about? All your papers are explaining this exactly. Somebody made the best point. It's like Yoda saying he doesn't know what the force is. >> This is the man that wrote that wrote the paper on gravity as a space-time metric. And exactly, you know, and me, what do you mean? No. Says what? What? No, nothing. >> It's like, oh, hey, I'm watching a plane literally vanished out of spaceime like that. And you wrote the paper that my sources say you were nominated for a Nobel Prize for explaining this concept. You're not interested in talking. >> Not once, but three times. I believe >> that's the ultimate giveaway. and and like you know the Lu Alzoando clip which I'm gonna keep forever in my back pocket of him talking to Glenn. >> Oh, don't get me started on that dude, man. >> So, let me one more thing. Let me ask you another question. >> I never forgive him for the phone calls that he initiated. >> I told you about it. How he wanted me to meet Averil Hines and Anyway, I won't go into it. Go ahead, sir. >> So, you think the government has fusions figured out secretly? >> Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. 100% sure. Yeah. But it it it's uh put it this way, there's some certain extremely intelligent individuals out there who realize that for example, a company like um try Alpha Energy is worth investing in. >> Yeah, we're going to talk about that one second. Followup question. >> Yeah, go ahead. >> Yes, you think they are. Have you ever had people come talk to you about what you're allowed to say or not allowed to say publicly or threaten you and say like, "Hey, don't talk about Fusion." >> Bro, I think Wikipedia did me the greatest favor in in a way. In a way, they they killed my chances of ever truly becoming mainstream. I think maybe one day, who knows, when somebody actually proves the PICE effect real and it will happen. Mark my words, it will happen. possibly an AGI will but anyway I won't go there yet. Um the moment they said that my work was physics mambojambo fixes work salad quantum mambo jambo a pseudocience you know in a way they did me a favor in a way a great disservice but from the point of view think about it. So, is the reason because you got discredited so they're not they're not worried as much about controlling what you say? Is that your point? >> I have a feeling. Oh, by the way, oh my god, I never gave a disclaimer, brother. I come upon this podcast as a private citizen. I hope they look at this. As a private citizen, I had my statements, my opinions are all my own. They have nothing to do with the United States Navy nor the United States Space Force. These are just the the wild statements of an individual that knows a lot. I'll leave it. >> These are all these are all official statements from the Navy and the government and >> No, never. This is all This is it. This is disclosure. This is the moment you're hearing it. >> Oh my god. Could you imagine? Could you imagine? All of a sudden the the screen goes black. >> Okay. Well, let's talk about some of this stuff. Uh what did you think about Venezuela? I mean, so people are just in the dark for some reason. Our special forces, supposedly Delta Force, just rolled up into the capital city into a military installation to a safe house where a president of a foreign country was hiding in a safe house and extracted him with zero casualties on at least on our side. What I mean, to me, the reason why I bring this up is MH370 videos are clearly an operation just from the way they're recorded. And I don't think people thought that an operation like that was even possible. People are posting old comments talking about people think that special forces are like the space marines. They can just do anything and and go in anywhere. Well, we did and we can. And it it shows to me your point that said people should not mess with America. We have weapons and technology and capabilities that are far beyond what people really understand in the public. What do you think? >> 100% brother. As a matter of fact, this is what weapons of time speak to. The whole idea, it all starts with a very simple relation. Time is on the order of one fre of one divided by frequency. It comes directly from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. If you can uh please to your followers give u I think it's called the ancient pathways by Evan Howell. He's a friend also of our brother Dave Rossi and uh his name again Evan Howell. I had a recent uh part with him on weapons of time. Glory be to N key as in the Sumerian Anunnaki. You should always bring in some mythology so you keep on guessing. But put it this way, brother, with weapons of time, it it is as if um imagine winning all wars even before these wars are fought. That is the power weapons of time. >> You think that's >> we are the United States of America, brother. And as you well know, they can say whatever they want about us. They can call us all kind of names. They can call us fascists. They can call us all these things they want to call us. The bottom line is they are again I almost slipped. They are afraid of us and fear is for dot dot dot slaves. I'll just leave it there. >> Do you think it's right for us to do what we're doing? I mean, if my perspective, geopolitical take is that we're using this weaponry, this advantage that we have and leveraging it to expand our empire, for lack of a better term. I mean, you've got Venezuela has fallen. Iran, we could probably take out anytime we want. Same with Cuba. I think if that happens, don't be surprised. Uh Greenland, we're just going to take Greenland from the the Europe. And who knows, I'm even throwing out there, maybe we'll just take Canada and assimilate Canada. What do you think? Do you think this is appropriate? Do you think this is ethical? >> Again, as as a private citizen, as a private citizen, look at the continent. Imagine being fortress America. Some people call it the American Empire, whatever you want to call it, is still supreme among all other nations right now. So, my opinion is this. Either be with us or dot dot dot. I'm with you. I'm with you. I'm trying to keep neutral, but I can't pretend like it. I'm a huge America first kind of guy. And I'm actually seeing the shift in the political realms. And this is the reason why I started talking about politics. And people wonder, Ashton, why are you talking about politics? You can't disconnect this technology. I mean, go ahead. We have to become united. Some sort of unification factor has to come in >> because remember that great man that once said a house divided cannot stand. >> A house divided cannot stand. Imagine the strength. Imagine the power of this nation if we were united. Unification. We have to somehow become united. Enough for this polarized nonsense. enough with this person saying this person is this and we all American. We all have the objective to become the best nation in the world. Why? Because we truly are the last bastion of freedom. If we fall, it is over for mankind. There's so many bad I want to say it really bad, but I won't because you know they're bad. Okay, it is hard to be good in a world filled with bad. You know what? And that's the way it goes. That's the way it goes. So either we have this power and we are able because of who we are, because of our foundation. And again, this is this year is the 250th anniversary of the greatest nation in the history of mankind. >> Mhm. >> The great Rouso thought of us and what we could become, our founding fathers. Think about it. These were a at one point in time a bunch of rabble a bunch of rebels rather a bunch of rebels that put their freaking John Hancock on a document that could have had all of them hung or god forbid and bailed if you must. >> So you're in support of our expansionism is what I'm hearing. But so >> we have a god destiny. We have a great destiny which we must fulfill. There will be many that call us all kind of names but again America first, America greatest, America best. >> I have to say I am pleased at the direction that we've been taking. It's I mean we've been doing it. I think Jason Grojani would agree and people want wonder why like why are you taking this stance? And for me, S just kind of laid it out, which is that this isn't going to work in the long run if we're all at each other's throats, if we're all adversaries. So, this is the reason why I believe that America should be expanding our influence because the one world government, like maybe we don't want to have tyrants controlling us, but we do need some level of unification, otherwise we're going to blow ourselves up. We're going to blow this whole planet up. We're not going to make it, guys. So this is I think the harsh dark reality of our circumstances that we're facing here and it would also explain why not just America but other countries too would you agree are hiding this information this knowledge this physics this science >> there's so many brilliant people out there brother and it doesn't matter of their nationality doesn't matter of their skin color doesn't matter who they are they exist There is no way that only we have this kind of ideas, this this kind of technology. >> I mean, you see China working on like they have a F FRC plasma fusion reactor that they've been building and testing and all the stuff about the drones has been speculated to either be Russia or China drones. So, it's not like just like us and the whole idea of alien physics. If we figured something out, then Russia and China can figure it out, too. Now they may not have as advanced versions as we do but they could still figure out the core. >> Some of the greatest mathematician physicists are Russians. >> Yeah. >> They have come with idea up with ideas and even though they've been rendered for example like Nikolai Koserev for God's sake everybody makes fun of him but nobody says this guy actually took the Einstein cotton equations which is what you need for what he was trying to look at and he developed a certain theory. Look carefully at his theory before you put the man down and call him a crackpot, a crank and charlatan. Even though before he came up with these ideas of torsion fields, he was one of the greatest astrophysicists in existence. >> Anyway, >> let's talk about DJT. So if the other news that's happened over the last few weeks is Trump media and technology group which is their stock ticker is DJT has merged with Trial Alpha Energy. Trialpha Energy one of if maybe the oldest fusion company private fusion company if not the oldest way possibly one of the oldest and one of only two companies that is doing field reverse configuration with high beta. Uh, this blew me away out of nowhere because Trump Media Group owns True Social. They don't have anything to do with Fusion. So, why are they merging with this Fusion company and the deal was supposedly valued at around $6 billion? For the people that are wondering, this means that the moment the deal officially goes through, Trialpha Energy is officially part of DJT stock. So, they avoided any IPOs. this immediately makes basically TAE becomes a public entity underneath um the Donald Trump's stock. This was wild to me. And the bigger thing was that when I was reviewing your paper again, going back to it, here it is again for people that want to see it. Um you know, I was looking through your sources and this is where I was talking about Bousard and looking into his stuff and I found this guy Jay Young Park who you also quoted here. >> Dr. Park is a very smart man. After all, you don't become chief scientist of TAE by being >> He spoiled it. He just spoiled the reveal. So, he became he let I guess uh Polywell fell apart or something became defunct in 2019 and Jay Young Park then joined Trialpha Energy as a lead scientist, which I thought was interesting because I was trying to figure out what's the connection between field reverse configuration and what Polywell was doing. So, I guess I'll just ask you since you're clearly the expert. I mean, I'm looking at your scientific paper referencing all of these things together. What's the connection, >> brother? They call me a crackpot. I'm no expert. >> No, listen. Uh, first and foremost, uh, as a private citizen, this is just my opinion. This is again because of the Hatch Act, I have to be very careful what I say. But I must say that my hats off to the advisers uh of our president because he has some of the top scientific advisers. This talks directly to project Stargate. Think about the whole idea of what would power these quote unquote gigawatt data centers for the supercomputers that are required to bring AGI to life eventually. um the singularity against a super an artificial super intelligence even though I choose to call it a machine super intelligence um that's just my thing this artificial there's nothing artificial about it it's a very natural thing and it cames from our mode of thinking the whole idea of generative pre-trained transformers the whole idea of attention is everything Ilia Sutsk among others these are phenomenal minds means Sutzkava should win a Nobel Prize one day. But anyway, he is um Sir Jeffrey. I think it's sir should be sir Jeffrey Hinton's uh um best pupil, apt pupil, let's call him. But anyway, u yeah so my hat off to that number one. Number two, uh the Polywell device is is is one of a kind. It was it was extremely well thought out. And as you well know, as you can see carefully, uh it was a certain other individual that used to work for Lock and Martin. I think he still does. >> Uh I forget his name. Was it >> Maguire? That's it. Anyway, >> yeah. Uh >> I noticed you referenced him here as well. >> The physics. Yeah. Do you know at the 2019 AIAA Scitec conference, Lheed Martin was there and I was supposed to I actually asked a question to them about this >> where where it went >> and it never it never got back to me. He never answered it. I asked Dr. Maguire a very interesting question. I still remember the all of a sudden you could hear a pin drop in the whole audience and the whole thing was filled that the guy from Locki just complete silence. So I must have really >> it has to do with with this beta squares on the order of R cubed this idea of the compact fusion device. >> He didn't answer it. He said that he will contact Dr. Maguire. never heard back. But anyway, so >> is this is this the the Dr. Magguire? Is this his son? I'm kind of confused about this actually. >> I believe this is the young dude. >> So I'm not sure if it's I think it's a son. >> Fusion is a much safer >> Yeah. I kind of feel like there's some nepotism thing going on here, right? Like I think this is his maybe they keep it in the family. an extra. >> Yeah, >> that's kind of what I'm wondering because I see in other images as well of older dude and I'm like, "Huh?" >> So, >> okay. I mean, you've got a fusion, you have a fusion patent paper that I'm we were looking at right there that that's from 2019, right? That paper 2018, something like that. >> Yeah. and you're referencing a bunch spec a bunch of very specific fusion reactors that are all using the same concept that in 2019 nobody I could even imagine unless you were in the black world unless you were working directly in fusion would understand what you're talking about and this is what's blowing me away because now I understand it but I only understand it in 2024 2025 you know not 2019 2018 >> and that's why you could hear a pin drop in the auditorium When I asked that question to Lucky Martin, Dr. >> Cuz aren't you speaking to something? I mean, what we're talking about here is >> because all the Spice effect stuff is in the wide world, brother. It's in the wide world. And this has nothing to do with working on legacy programs and so forth. Yes, I've worked on certain things, but they have nothing to do with this. This is something that I noticed from the heavy side version of Maxwell's equations. That's simple because again simple is good while complex is not. That's what drives everything. >> What you're speaking to though is a different understanding of fusion. One not based on temperature one not based on increasing the temperature of your plasma. >> But I just showed you how just by from a first approximation of the ideal gas law. You see why energy density is on the order of temperature while energy density can also be on the order of what a characteristic speed squared. So if you go that path, if you somehow able to accelerate your plasma into the core, you will get much better results than just by going by temperature alone because the temperature relationship is linear while the other one is nonlinear. And you know what nonlinearities do especially in a nonlinear media plasma is? >> Yeah. Are you just speaking to like a negative voltage well then that is then attracting it to accelerate the positive ions towards it just like diffusion like the poly wells devices >> how try alpha energy how are they doing that with F FRC >> it's exactly what they're do uh the negative potential I'm not sure exactly how they do that I think they just keep it confined see my thing achieves the negative potential well just like polywell and you can control it. That's why I I'm amazed nobody took on the dynamic. There were some rumors, you know, I won't mention names, but a certain guy from the Senate Armed Service Committee that was very interested. He was the one that went to PAX, interviewed everybody about the patents and so forth. See, he supposedly worked on a creda with someone in Canada. I I don't know anything else. only that don't forget the air force was very interested in this thing as well and gave it to somebody to look into the theory and the results I've never seen the results nobody contacted me it's strange how this stuff happens anyway >> so are we saying that we are increasing the energy density without it getting hot or are we saying we are it's still going to get hot but we're just achieving increase in a different way >> extremely hot But but you're driving it a different manner now by accelerating your by building this negative potential. Well, you're accelerating the ions within the core. These things have much because the cross-section will be through the roof. These things will want to fuse. >> Mhm. >> Just by the nature of the physics, it's all about acceleration, man. Acceleration. One day the pis effect will be proved correct. not only correct but the source of some unbelievable physics not new physics this is old physics but a new perspective on old physics >> well let me ask two more questions then on that line so is there a connection between this negative potential well and negative energy >> the way I understand like a negative energy density be like a ne think about what is energy density It's a pressure. So it's like a negative pressure. Remember Dave Fringic's paper. Look into Dave Fronning's paper how he talks about the condition vacuum. How as a matter of fact he contacted me before he he passed. They said he was very intrigued with the PI effect. Let's just put that frowning and Paul Murad were the two people that were on my side always saying you got it. >> Paul Murad was on your side. >> Kid you got it. Oh Paul Murad definitely. Oh yes. >> Was he buddies with Frank me? >> Of course. Very very good. He was great friend of John Brandenburg too. >> John Brandenburgg when he saw the super force he was >> we wrote a paper together. >> What h I don't get what's up with John Brandenburgg. like he feels like I don't want to say speak ill of anybody but like he just says some weird stuff now and like I don't really understand what his situation is but clearly he was connected a lot of this stuff too I mean I don't know but >> he's a very intelligent man just leave it there and and trust me his idea of what happened on Mars brother holy dude you got to look into this stuff we truly as a certain gentleman Graham Hancock and I can mention his name because what I'm about to say is very positive. He said we are a civilization with amnesia. >> Yeah. >> 100%. There are things that have happened in your past in our past that we have no clue. >> Yeah. Do you think that the non-equilibrium amplification or whatever we're going to call it is um connected at all to zero point energy or do you think there's a connection at all to fusion and zero point energy? I mean I I may be leading this idea but I'm not committed to it but this idea that fusion is in some way tapping zero point energy. Are we going to figure out that when we start doing these a neutronic fusion reactions are we going to see excess energy? remember Castle Bravo? >> Yeah. 2.5 times higher. So >> this whole idea of lithium 6 and seven. Anyway, I won't go into >> But they can still rationalize that as just being a chemical reaction without >> something else. >> Not we talk about doubling the yield. >> Yeah. You're saying the yield no 2.5 times. It was supposed to be a six yield and it was 15 megat tons. So, are you saying that there's no way that the chemical reaction can account for that excess energy? >> Pause. A very pregnant pause. >> Think of it this way. Think of it this way. Think of it this way. An electron left to its own accord >> in 10 the minus1 seconds about 10 theus 11 seconds would decay into the nucleus. to spiral into the nucleus. Something prevents it. Anyway, >> you agree with Al Pudof then? >> One thing about Putoff, man, even though he spoke against me, even though >> his slap dog over there, Davis, freaking said what he said to Stratton. >> Anyway, let bygones be bygon. It's a new year. Anyway, he still is a great great man. Truly on a genius level. >> Let me explain why before people understand don't understand why we're glazing him here because I didn't even I was testing S there because I didn't even have to say what the paper was I was mentioning. I knew he would know. I'm talking about the ground state of the hydrogen atom. Anybody that follows me probably knows I mention it all the time. >> Sing that the electron should decay into the nucleus. So if we imagine an atom, the electrons are little planets flying around the sun of our atom. Well, he says in one at 10 to the minus1, which is a really really really really really short time, the electron should decay and crash into the nucleus. But it doesn't. Why doesn't it do that? That's literally the question of of how pudaf's ground state of the hydrogen atom. He says the reason why that doesn't happen, and by the way, this is a question that quantum mechanics and classical physics still can't really explain. They just kind of handwave it away. And this is a big question of quantum mechanics for a long time. So and and so that's why Hal Putoff is asking that question. He says it's because the 0 point energy is feeding it energy that it is radiating energy away but it's getting this excess energy it needs to stay stable in its orbit from the zero point energy field. So the reason why I asked that to S obviously is because if that's true, if there is some source that the electrons are just always pulling energy from, then if you pull on those electrons and pull some energy from them, in theory it will recuperate. And now you're like, wait a minute, does that mean that fusion is going to tap into some energy source out there? But if it is, what >> my question to you then is if that's the case, >> depending on your device, >> the plasma compression fusion device, baby, one day somebody will pick it up and realize, let's not discuss its weaponization, which is it would make your tar bomba look like a fire cracker. >> Yeah. >> All right. So, let's not go there. H. >> So >> the problem is that if we can pull energy from the vacuum now you make a weapon that's really just your imagination is the limit >> at that point. I mean right so >> an earth >> how are we going to realize it like now that we've painted the picture and we said okay >> out that planet that was supposed to be where it was supposed to be. What >> are you talking about? Planet X. >> No, not Nibiru. Uh there was a I believe a certain gentleman whose name now escapes me. Shouldn't because this man was uh uh one of Navy's best. He was actually the director of Naval Observatory, I believe, who uh hypothesized that there should have been a planet where the asteroid belt is. I forget the name, but I'm pretty sure if you AI it, you'll Yeah, >> the theory that the asteroid belt used to be a planet that got ripped apart. They claimed that Jupiter would have ripped it apart from tidal forces, but >> I don't know about all that. >> I don't know that, brother. All I know is that once upon a time there was uh the book of creation, the Anumish, the Sumerian book of creation. And I actually speak to it on uh speak to it uh on um even Evan Howell's uh the ancient pathways. Look at this latest weapons of time. Glory be to N key. There were certain weapons that the great gods used. As a matter of fact, this particular weapon belonged to the great god Tiiamat, the great dragon of the Abzu. And Joseph Frell would would come in incredibly right now. Trust me, you have to have Dr. Frell on. The way he speaks of these, they were called the tablets of destiny, and I believe they were weapons of time. >> Huh. Well, let's talk about that in a second. >> Some of them would not be destroyed. Imagine that. Anyway, yeah. >> Well, so let me ask because this is a side quest to your question for you. is that we have this advanced technology. We have fusion. We probably have gravitational wave communication devices. I mean, I know we have quantum radar stuff, so we probably also have gravity telescopes. With all this technology, we must know a lot more. Somebody must know a lot more about the circumstances of our civilization. This is a big question that the UFO people ponder is that if this stuff is real, what does it mean about our civil? Are we in a prison planet? How many alien species? But you don't see a lot of people asking the question about what are the real circumstances of our existence. And if we can see much further detect things, we must have a much better idea of like for example that if the asteroid belt is actually like a planet like maybe we are able to tell what minerals are in the various rocks like oh they're all exactly the same. Clearly this would indicate they're all from the same source. You know stuff like that. Do you think something like that exists? And if it does exist at what level under what agency well who would know about the CIA >> according to the enumish the great book of creation the Sumerian book of creation and refer to the Oxford edition because there there are people who would say oh don't refer to people like Zachariah Sitchin because they he didn't understand Sumerian his misunder whatever man whatever Yeah, >> just the whole idea is the great god and key at the behest of his son Marduk took the great geneticist Ninurag and created the Adamu, the first man who was meant to be a slave to do what? Mine gold for the Anuaki, the children of heaven and earth. >> I'll just leave it there. keep on following this train of thought. They also have the seven great gods of the Anunnaki in their pantheon. I believe Greece has seven gods as well. But anyway, dude, the truth of the matter is again, Graham Hancock, we are a civilization with amnesia. And sometimes I believe that somehow was driven into us genetically. For example, this whole idea that we need to worship, it's as if we have a worshiing gene. Why? For example, there is a list of kings before the flood that lived 30, 45,000 years and all of a sudden after the flood, you have regular lifespans. Question all these because myth could become history. Remember the great Hinrich Schlean with a copy of what the Was it Iliad? The Iliad under his arm, he found what is beginning or rather some people believe to be Troy. >> How these were quote unquote myths. >> Well, anyway, >> yeah, and I want to uncover them, but the reality is we're not going to do it by just going back to ancient books. We got to have some com some new evidence. So that's why I'm asking, do you think that the government knows way more about the circumstances and do you think they have hard evidence that shows it? And if so, where is that hiding? Who's who do you think controls that evidence? Because I doubt it's the Navy. I doubt it's any military organization. It would have to be intelligence, right? >> I believe the knowledge has been um imparted to certain organizations >> um throughout history. it. There is no way. Put it this way. If you were to create something, would you just let it go? Would you just let it be? >> Probably not. >> Come. Remember Charles Fort. Remember what he says in his book of the damned chapter 12. I think we are property, brother. We are property. Anyway, yeah. >> Um, okay. What else did I want to ask? Um, sorry, I lost my train of thought right there. So let's um so somebody knows more about what's going on in my opinion and I think that also Busousard in his discussion spoke pretty openly about this idea that the department of energy would block any technologies that broach on fusion because they have the charter for it. That seemed really odd to me because I would think that everybody would be want to be trying to solve fusion. DOE should be supportive of anybody that's going to do or figure out a better method for it. But Bousard just mentioned multiple times that said that, you know, if we tried to get the hund00 million funding from the DoD, they were afraid that Department of the Department of Energy would just come in and step in and shut it down. I have to wonder if that's also something similar that happened to you and your patents because you sp you speak openly about, you know, people showing up and saying, "Nah, don't don't let these, you know, don't support this, don't fund this." Um >> brother look at Ether it t some people say Ether because it eats all those billions of dollars. Think about it based on our what we just brought about what the whole idea of the poly uh uh fusion what the whole idea of the plasma compression fusion device is truly based on beta squares on the order of r cubed. If you're trying to optimize, you want beta on the order one, which is means what? You want a compact fusion device to have fusion, especially a neutronic fusion, which requires extremely high temperature on the order of billions of Celsius to occur. Which means what? This thing is humongous. It's freaking like a building. You should see this little thing next to it. It's called a man, you know, a six-footer next to this. I don't know, high-rise. I don't know what else to call it. So come on, man. >> You're pretty much saying that there's fraud though, you know? I mean, that's what's happening, right? Like this is fraud. >> Because from a scientific perspective, you can just say look at beta squared r cubed. Your device cannot be that big. It will not work. It cannot work. It can never produce net power that will be beneficial for uh electric generation. So it's already dead on arrival. The IDER is already dead on arrival. iter which is the uh it's Europe I think that's leading the charge on IDER. They're building a giant fusion reactor but they're doing a tokamax style and it's not even meant to be online until like 2035 and it's not meant to produce energy for the grid anyway. It's supposed to be a research type thing. >> Definitely never meet ignition condition which means the ignition >> the plasma will be self- sustaining fusion. So, >> so you look at this and you just go, "This is it's crazy that if you're right, if I'm right about the MH370 videos, then no doubt the billions of dollars have been getting pushed into Tokamax and Hot Fusion are fraud. Straight up fraud because there are people at some level somewhere that know that that was never going to be the solution because they already know what the real solution is." High beta concept. And I think that's leaking out, which is why I brought up the Donald J. Trump the DJT stock because that's a perfect example like the president is in a position to know about weapons that the rest of the people don't know about and if he's going to send his adviser to invest in a company it's >> have great advisors that's for sure real >> listen to Deon Nunes talk about it he they know they know 100% he's like this is a crown jewel they've got science they're doing something nobody else is doing he's saying all this stuff about it saying that this is a trillion dollar bet if we're Right. >> Nunees is a very smart man. >> He's very smart. Definitely definitely knows. Okay, let's change gears. Uh I want to talk about reverse temporal excursion because two reasons. One, I'm not sure I fully understand it. And second, I'm not sure I'm a believer. I'm like >> I like that. I like I like a challenge, baby. Come on. Put up your dukes. No kidding, brother. >> Here's my problem. And this is a thought experiment. >> Go ahead. This this is the thought experiment that the reason why I struggle against going back in time is that if time travel is possible reverse time travel specifically retrocausality um and I'm just speaking in the general terms here then that means that it's going to get figured out even if we don't have it now it will get figured out at some point in the future and that means that at some point in the future someone will come back in time And the future is a really really long time in the future. So in theory, this means that essentially every point in history should be getting manipulated by people who are time traveling in my opinion. And yet we see no evidence that there's time travel manipulation. The time streams not falling apart. Uh you might say that there that if you believe in like the Mandela effect, you might say that that's a thing that's happening, but I think the the evidence is pretty slim there. there should still be like photos and stuff like that if that were the case. And it should be a lot more than just a couple of things. So this is the big reason why I struggle with it. And then also listening to all the Black Project engineers, you know, John Kramer specifically, you know, they speak pretty openly about the idea that the smartest physicist in the world did not think that it was going to be possible that there would be something that prevents retrocausality. So when you say, okay, well, we can, you know, break the arrow of time. I want to understand conceptually what that means. Does that necessarily mean that time can flow in any direction? Or does that just mean that time is stopped at the point of the singularity relative to everything else? Because those would be two completely different interpretations. One that would allow for retrocausality and one that might not. >> Get ready, baby. You ready? >> All right. >> Ready. Space is a macroscopic quantum structure from which our cosmic reality arises. Time is a peculiar type of informational energy which permeates the structure. Think about the words. They're not just words. Paint the picture. permeates the structure. Once you break the Schwingga limit, you have ripped apart the space-time continuum locally. Hence, the so-called arrow of time, the whole idea that entropy will always increase with time is no longer valid. This goes against the whole idea of the chronology protection conjecture of Hawking. Thereby it is quite possible that this peculiar type of informationational energy can be manipulated in such a way that what you understand as past events can be changed without alteration of to the future events. This whole idea of causality no longer has any meaning once you break the swing limit. Once you destroy this arrow of time, >> you're saying we wouldn't even recognize if the if the past got changed. >> You saw this guy uh here here's an interesting idea about uh aliens being us coming back. Uh McMasters, I believe his name is. He has a interesting take on what >> what time travel I I forget what his name is but uh I I think it was on Rogan. I think Rogan had him recently. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> This thing with the He has an interesting take on it. Put it this way, brother. The mathematical physics to me makes sense. minus delta t is on the order of this tao subs that truly has to do with breaking the shingle limit >> times delta omega / omega square >> it's a simple again I go by this ex I call it the pis doctrine of physical engineering simple is good while complex is not this is very simple it arises directly from Heisenberg's uncity principle you take the chain rule you get this the whole idea is this tow of s is based on breaking the swing limit and that's what makes it 10^ the 25 times that fraction r sub r subs / r sub omega time epsilon0 divided by sigma subs squared >> it's dimensionally consistent can check Cuz the whole idea is this electromagnetic energy flux is on the order of what? C * epsilon0 E² where E is your electric field strength. Now E your electric field strength is on the order of what? C the speed of light times B the B field magnetic induction. Brother keep it simple and you shall find the solution to the most complex problem in existence. This whole idea of B beta squares on the order of R cube. It could have told either iter whatever the hell they call it. Anyway, I'm not going to go there. I'm going to be nice. Why are you building a high-rise? Why are you going for Takamac? It should be spherical. It should be small. >> Yeah. And the I guess the time travel thing. >> All right. It's not that the math I agree the math all checks out. Don't agree. Don't disagree at all there. I think it's the concept of what's that what does that mean from a conceptual reality is the hard part. And the reason why I do give it some credit and don't don't dismiss it as well. I saw an airplane disappear out of the sky. And the thing that bugs me about MH370 disappearing out of the sky in those videos is how the clouds don't move. like the way that it's happening is is seems unnatural seems seem does seem like magical >> very good observation >> and so when I say that I go >> and don't forget the reflection don't forget the wave within the aboo the void the void within the vacuum that's key >> in the vacuum this is what was talking about when he said conditioned vacuum >> that's what this negative energy density is all about. You're creating it. >> Mhm. >> And because of the super fluid nature of our universe that is more than 99.999% plasma and one day please have me on to talk about this whole idea of the triarchy of creation. This whole idea is the super force acting at the super density condition that generates a super bang leading because of the plasma nature of our universe to a super intelligence which one day we shall mimic via machine super intelligence. How can the two be apart from one another when it is us that couple them? >> I think you'll enjoy my uh my next hard truth podcast which is going to drop this week. Oh, beautiful. With with uh Wyatt uh Meldman Flock, he was a uh intern at SETI and he does AI and um and other stuff like that. And we we spoke about a lot of some of these concepts and the idea of uh AI, you know, intelligence, machine intelligence, and then what's going to happen with humanity. So, yeah, I think I mean, you can see the convergence of all of these ideas happening. I think this is why the disclosure people say that there's like this timeline because you can see that we've got fusion that's being rolled out and it seems like in a very controlled fashion that will then just coincide with the the requirements of the AI data centers exactly to serve the data centers. So, it's the perfect >> like, hey, why didn't we have these AI? Why didn't we have this Fusion before? We had data centers before, but we just didn't care about using Fusion before, but like, oh, now now everybody's all about Fusion all suddenly. And, oh, and by the way, there's a couple companies that have like been quietly in the backgrounds in the shadows for like 20, 30 years, and now the president's merging with them. Like, go ahead. Sorry. >> No, very say something. >> Very astute observation, brother. As as usual, your research and not only your research, but your analytical manipulation of that research is >> sweet, generous, unique. >> Let's ask I want to do more time travel stuff cuz Palmer Lucky, that guy's a real interesting guy. >> Oh my god, I would love to meet that man. I would love >> Palmer Lucky and I in a room in a Skip together. All the kind of stuff we could talk about. He knows some stuff. >> Who am I? I'm a nobody. >> He's I think he's what they like because he's like a happy golucky guy that is very >> I love his shirts. His Hawaiian shirts, dude. >> He's so intelligent, but he's so nonchalant at the same time like he knows where the line is about what he's allowed to talk about, what he can't. So he'll gleefully tell you about stuff that he's allowed to talk about, but he's very intelligent enough to know not to talk about what is national. He's very political and and he doesn't care who knows it. It it cost him his job. >> Did you see the thing he said about the whales? >> He said that we can find all the whales in the ocean, but we don't want to find the whales. We just want to find the submarines. I just thought this was really weird because I talk about a missing airplane that we're searching for right now, by the way. And how are people just oblivious to the fact that if the military wanted to find a missing Boeing trip 7, it wouldn't matter where on Earth it is. It wouldn't even matter if it's in the core of the earth. I feel like they still would be able to find it even if it was underground somewhere. In the ocean, of course, they would be able to find. Are you guys crazy? They can find every whale in the ocean, but you don't think they can find a Boeing trip 7, >> brother? in order uh see you've gotten to a point where your physics is explaining way too much and I think it's starting to make certain people very very very um nervous >> good >> so my opinion is that they will try very hard to plant something somewhere just to basically say ah Hey, we found it. But I'll tell you right off the bat, there are people out there. >> They're really worried. I have a feeling truly worried because the physics the physics speaks to this speaks to the MH370 videos. >> And you should never go against your instinct, your physical instinct. >> Yeah, brother. When I saw those freaking arms start pulsating, >> I said, "Oh my god." >> That's what you think they're doing on the plane pulsating. >> Anyway, >> I knew what would happen before this. This is what got me. This is what got me. >> Do you know what Palmer Lucky said, though? Palmer Lucky said when he was asked about the UFO stuff, he said something I had never thought of. And I'm going to pay a lot more attention to Palmer Lucky now because I think he knows more than he says. He said >> the guy's a genius. >> He said going back in time is too difficult. What if they come from the past? Because going forward in time is actually really simple. That's actually that's just time dilation. So why can't the answer why does it have to be that the aliens come from the future? Couldn't the aliens be us but from the past? Because just like you said, you're all about civilization resetting. So a civilization in the past could be way more advanced than we are currently right now. So couldn't they have just gone forward to the future and then colonized us here? >> Brother, anything is possible. I'm just talking about physics here. It occurred to me that something extremely extremely simple like time is on the order of one divided by frequency that comes directly from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle. All right. directly dpdx is on the order of h bar. Delta e delta t is on the order of h bar. Hence because plank's energy e is on the order of h bar omega. Boom. You have delta t is on the order of 1 / delta omega. The moment anybody that knows anything about again differential calculus at initial conditions t omega 0 you get what? you get T's on the order of one divided by omega again a macroscopic quantum phenomena coming directly for from Heisenberg's uncertainty principle so even if you didn't realize that dimensionally this is correct and there must be physicality to it time is on the order one divided by frequency comes directly from first principles once you take the chain rule this happens this minus delta t what is the physicality of a minus delta t but reverse tempor for excursion. This is all I'm saying. Go with the instinctual physics. This is intuitive physics. In my opinion, one day it should break all shackles. Intuitive physics. Again, simple is good while complex is not. >> Uh, this reminded me of a video I kind of wanted to play. I'm trying to look for it. Oh, yeah. Here it is. I got it right here. I want to play this for you. Something that I've wondered a lot about and I think my audience has wondered a lot about is the fine structure constant. >> The significance of the fine structure constant. I think you spoke about one of our earlier um interviews that we >> it's the electromagnetic force divided by strong nuclear force. >> This ratio >> pineman called it along with oiler's relationship of E to the I + 1= 0. One of the greatest I I it is it is >> I mean this is the genius of Fland. Sorry about that. You know me, I gotta go on so many tangents. Eventually get to Rome, but yeah, there's only one. >> I found this interview here. Uh it was Tim V alternate Propulsion, one of the Tim Ventura um affiliates uh by this guy. I don't know how to say his name, but very very interesting interview. It's all about using Maxwell's equations and you know kind of getting them to to fit for inertial manipulation >> thrust force or by equating the corresponding energy densities we can establish a theoretical link electricity with gravity and magnetism with inertia by analogy. Setting the gravitational permitivity equal to 4 pi multiplied by the gravitational constant. We can then derive its counterpart the inertial permeability in analogy with the magnetic permeability of electromagnetism in Maxwell theory. Furthermore, by defining electromagnetic mass and degrading it with a new expressions DG and DI um these two have newton per kilogram or meter/s squared as the units of these two um expressions. we arrive at the concept of the electrons or posetrons effective massless electromagnetic mass. Remarkably, when this electromagnetic mass is divided by planks mass and squared as a ratio, it unexpect unexpectedly yields the fine structure constant. >> Okay, what does that mean? Oh, there we go. Remember in my super force paper that I actually by using the fine structure constant I showed that at the plank scale your strong nuclear force equals the gravitational force. So the highest the greatest force known to man the strong nuclear force that occurs on the order of 10 the minus5 meters. on the order of 1/ meter. Okay. But if the strong nuclear force was to be taken at the plank scale, the gravitational force and the strong nuclear force are equal because of the fine structure constant. This fine structure constant is something that somehow was engineered into the fabric of spacetime at the quantum level from the very beginning. This is what I'm talking about as super intelligent must exist. This whole idea of cyclical cosmology by Roger Penrose. >> It's the super intelligence in a way reinventing itself. It tries to gain new understanding, new knowledge. It's quite possible that species that have evolved in the past >> are never to be seen again. So you agree that the fine structure constant is some baseline code of reality that I mean because that and that's how I look at it is like why is this number significant why when you calculate >> extreme significance extreme significance fineman to his dying day believed that this was a clue to everything and all fineman was no fool. Interesting. >> Okay. Well, honestly, S, that's what I wanted to discuss with you here today. Did is there anything else that you wanted to chat about on uh for this particular podcast, >> brother? Uh just weapons of time quickly. All right. In my opinion, it is possible to design, develop, and field temporal weapons, weapons of time, which would greatly disrupt the arsenals of nations. Imagine the ability to win all wars even before those war wars are fought. Imagine the ability to win all wars even before those wars are fought. Please take a look at Evan House the ancient pathway. There's a certain episode with me that he has uh called weapons of time glory be to N key mentioning the Sumerian deity brother of Enlil. It's very interesting. >> This is nothing new. I believe this these existed at one point in time. They were called the tablets of destiny and the great gods used them in a certain cosmic war. I know right now it's going off tangent and but trust me, you got to get Dr. Joseph Frell on >> to truly understand the nature of plasma. It's it's it's a very that would be an incredible quad. Have you, me, him, and Dave on Dave Ross on that quad would be amazing. And and convince him that we're not here to in any way disparage his theories. No, not at all. The physics that we're talking about talks to them. This man, you have to read this book called Secrets of the Unified Field. This is no regular mind. This man should have been a physicist. Anyway, leave it there. >> I agree. I hope he's out there and I hope he sees this. Um, and I would say that it'll happen eventually. I tell people that people wonder like, how do you know it's going to happen? Because I know those videos are real. I know the physics is real. And so, it's just a matter of time. We're just in a situation right now where we're ahead of the game. We're just really, really, really far ahead of the game. Um, maybe decades and we're hoping that, you know, we're slowly getting closer to that goal. I said, and I think we both said, people asked me a long time ago, they said, Ashton, how are you going to get disclosure? What's the next thing? What do we do? Well, you're watching, you've been watching it. The reason why I'm interviewing people like Salvatore Pais here and uh researching all these scientific papers is this is what disclosure is about educating people. It's about getting them more knowledgeable so that it doesn't seem absolutely ridiculous when we start talking about plasma orbs and concepts like teleportation wormholes. These are not we have to demystify that. So that's what the goal is here and I hope you guys have appreciated it. Uh thank you South for joining me. Uh any last thoughts? Again, simple is good while complex is not. Either ether whatever against the polywell device or the plasma compression fusion device or Loheed Martin's compact fusion device. I leave it up to your audience to decide which path should we go. >> All right, >> you heard it there, guys. Tokamax a scam. Department of Energy's fraud. Uh 420 yolo swag. No scope. Peace out everybody. Thank you very much and thank you all for the donations as well. I'll hit those up in the comments guys. Appreciate it. Later.