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# Hard Truths /w Navy Engineer Salvatore Pais LIVE Malaysian 370 contact switch 120 decimal 970. [Music] >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with 239 people on board, including four Americans, has gone missing. [Music] Oh, [Music] [Applause] [Music] I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad Gita, Vishnu. is trying to persuade the prince that he should do his duty and to impress him. Takes on his multi-armed form and says, "Now I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." Hello everybody and welcome to a very special episode of the Hard Truths podcast with Salvatore Pais. I believe this is our fourth time talking to Sal if my uh math is correct. Guys, I am super excited for this interview. We just have to wait a few minutes for S to get on because his other computer was not working. But I decided, you know what? Let's just get right to it. Let's start talking about what we're going to be talking about today. And right off the bat, we are going to be exposing technology that the world does not understand to be real at this point. If you've been following me, you know that that's that's not really a surprise for you. But Salvatore Pais, in my opinion, is the key to this technology. He's the key to it because he works for the US Navy and he has five patents. Five patents, three of which were approved that are all supported by the United States Navy. They include high room temperature high temperature superc conductivity which we talked about on Friday. They also include a transmedium craft with inertial mass reduction. They include a uh magnetically confined fusion reactor that uses counterrotating vortices to compress plasma and produce fusion. And so we're going to be talking with Salvatore Py about these patents, about this science. And I want to be asking specifically today about the connection to nuclear weapons. Nuclear weapons. That's where this road has gone and led us to is the idea that in the 60s when we figured out the Hbomb thermonuclear weapons, we solved fusion. We solved fusion. And S must have insights into this into this history of the technology. The reason why I say this, just to get you guys primed right now before we start talking to him here. And yes, feel free to please hit the likes, follow, subscribe or whatever buttons, share with your friends. Uh, end of the day, you know, if I was a black project engineer like S presumably is, I would never be talking about this stuff. Just be real with you guys. I would just be invisible. I would have no social media presence. I would not be disclosing this information because I, you know, it's more hassle than it's worth, but I'm not a black project engineer. I'm a social media influencer. And so, we're going to get all this information out to you guys uh in whatever way we can. I want to point out this paper right here. This paper, you see the author on this paper, it says Edward Teller. He is the father of the hydrogen bomb. Edward Teller is the father of the hydrogen bomb. This paper says space propulsion by fusion in a magnetic dipole. Space propulsion by fusion in a magnetic dipole. 1992 is when this paper was published. And if this sounds somewhat familiar to you, well, there's a reason for that. This is referencing or this is the precursor you could say to field reversed configuration fusion F FRC's field reverse configuration fusion that paper mentions using helium 3 as your fuel source as we found out what is helium 3 connected to a neutronic fusion. So Edward Teller, the father of the hydrogen bomb, wrote a paper in the early 90s about using a neutronic fusion for space propulsion. The paper doesn't specifically mention field reverse configuration, but it talks about high beta value uh closed magnetic field lines. So it actually is mentioning field reverse configuration without actually saying it high beta value. That's exactly what Loheed Martin and Helen Fusion have been talking about. So, we have a direct connection to the father of the Hbomb, Edward Teller, Ulam Teller device and fusion. So, we're going to be asking S about that as well. Now, in addition to that, we got some other things on here that I want to talk to him about. So before we I was going to pull these up in the middle of the interview, but I want to show zero point energy has been proven. Zero point energy has been proven to be real. Right here 0 point motion of atoms measured directly for the first time September 5th, 2025. This is two days ago. Two days ago. Now, this paper basically says that all of the atoms everywhere are actually interconnected. They're interconnected. And even if you take their temperature down to absolute zero, there's still movement. There's still movement. And what do we call the energy that's left over when we take our temperature down to absolute zero? We call it zero point energy. And what it means is that space is not empty. There is potentially unlimited energy available to us in the fabric of spacetime. And that's what this paper shows. Sabine Hosenfelder actually just did a video about it. Weirdly, she didn't connect it to zero point energy. She said the zero point motion is not the same as zero point energy. Uh, yes it is. Yes, it is. So anybody that doubts 0 point energy is real, there you go. You've got your paper. Now this is important for the discussion with Salvatore Py because reviewing his patents, reviewing his papers, they all confirm this idea that spacetime is not an empty vacuum that spacetime itself as a medium. We can think of space spacetime as a flexible solid super fluid solid. So everything is secretly connected but it can wiggle. It can vibrate around and that's what this paper shows. This paper shows that the atoms are actually interacting with one another all the time. Now another thing I want to point out to you guys as well which is going to be related to the discussion that we're about to have is this paper. I don't know who in my replies yesterday posted this, but wow. This Cornell paper right here shows S's patent is real about room temperature superconductivity. This paper shows that we can actually induce superconductivity in a metal induce it as Sal said via vibration by the lattice structure vibrating. So this paper actually confirms that what S is saying has real experimental evidence to support it. That we can induce we can change the the uh uh the properties of our semiconductor from being an insulator to being a conductor. And then one last thing I want to show here before we get into this is this video right here. Now this video is about Ampear's law and apparently this so we talk about this science that has been suppressed that has been kept hidden from us that you know has been I guess hiding in plain sight. Here's a great example of it. Here's a great example. What Ampier did I'm just going to show you uh oops for a second. What Ampier did is that he said if I take two charged wires and put them next to each other, there's a longitudinal force between them. A measurable, experimentally proven longitudinal force between the wires that either pulls them together or forces them to repel. And actually he says it's the opposite of what we would expect from magnetism. It works in the opposite way that we would expect from magnetism in terms of uh like attracting and uh opposites repelling or sorry uh opposite uh of that. So this Ampiers law has essentially been erased from the textbooks systematically over the decades even though it was experimentally proven to be real. Now this is important because what is a longitudinal force? A longitudinal force is a ripple through the ether. It's a ripple through the ether through the zero point energy if you want to think of it like that. This confirms what we have been saying about what was left behind. What did we lose? We lost the ether. We lost this idea that there's an extra dimension of energy that we're sitting in all the time. And we can show that it's real from the casemir effect, from the Aaronhoff bomb effect. And we can see it from Ampiers's law. From Ampiers's experimentation shows it as well. There's a longitudinal force. said the idea that they said was, "Oh, we'll just throw this out because we're just going to assume that everything's going to interact instantaneously. We're going to assume everything will interact instantaneously, which means everything will be stuck in an equilibrium." But that's not how it really works. So, this is it. This is what we missed. What we missed was things aren't able to just interact instantaneously. You can break the symmetry temporarily and it won't instantaneously come back. And if that's the case, this changes everything about physics. And this is the precursor. This is the basis, the foundation for how warp drives, wormholes, all of this UFO technology, as we've been calling it for some reason, is possible. Okay, so S should be joining us in just a minute, guys. I didn't want to keep you guys in the waiting room without him, but he had to switch computers if you are not if you were not listening uh previously. S will be here in a few minutes. He had to switch computers. He was on and his computer. He had no no audio, no video. So, he's switching computers and he'll be back here in a second. So, I'm keeping you guys busy while we wait for him. Now, the other thing I'm going to show then since we still have a couple more minutes are Sal's papers. I'll just do a quick review of these two papers very quick just summary. The two main papers that we're going to discuss with S. Oh, here we go. >> Okay, >> my brother. >> Can you hear me? >> Hold on. S. There we go. Hey, how's it going? Welcome to the podcast. Man, it's it's it's my birthday, so apologies for the uh delay. Truly, >> happy birthday is in the chat for S. Guys, >> I will never ever attempt to use new equipment on your podcast. Anyone else? You know, I don't care. But yours is special. >> Oh, it's good this time. We've had some issues in the past, but you're looking great right now. >> Really? Oh my goodness. Okay, cuz I'm I'm using old equipment. Wow. All right, that's cool. Okay. So, you ready to do this? >> Oh, 100% my brother. >> Okay. >> Go ahead. >> Do you have to do a disclaimer or are we just going to get right into it? >> My brother, you know, it is my birthday and I'm feeling kind of interesting. >> So, uh, in honor of this day, no disclaimer, but allow me to make a statement if I may, >> please. >> All right. Once upon a time there lived a man, a great man, a great American patriot and great man of the world. His name John Fitzgerald Kennedy. He was a great man and greatly wronged. He believed very much in the American way of life. He believed that we as Americans must always choose to do the hard things, the very hard things. That's what makes us exceptional. That's what makes us above all the rest. In honor of that man, I would like to stay, brother. I would like to state it is hard. It is very hard to be good in a world filled with [ __ ] >> That it is. That it is. Well, let's just get right to it, sir. Um, >> okay. I'm just gonna throw this out there. Do you work on nuclear weapons? >> Oh my goodness. Uh uh I have never taken a course in nuclear engineering nor have I worked on any any design or any weapon that involves thermonuclear energy. I can say that the pais effect the plasma compression fusion device and something I hope to discuss with you now something very that's on the on the tip of my brain it's very important it's called the plasma disruption fusion weapon it's based on the plasma compression fusion uh device all of these ideas the super force as well they come from a serendipitous fusion of imagination and information as you well know and you within the last two years have come up to speed incredibly in physics. So you will know what hard work and serendipitous fusion between information and imagination can create. It can give rise to some of the greatest innovative principles. And one thing we must touch upon, Nastia and Shaloh did me a great disservice by stating on one of your podcasts with them. >> Oh. >> That my work is representative of boosters, that it's not my own, that it's just something I put out there created by others. Who knows what they had in mind? After almost two and a half hours of something more than two hour podcast with them, I never got that impression from them that they were so accusatory of what I had to say. As a matter of fact, I thought I had a good relationship with them until your podcast with them. It left me speechless. Not only that, but what they had to say about Bob. [ __ ] it. What can I say? >> Well, >> interesting people. >> Yeah. But do you understand why they think that? >> No, I don't. Let me say it because a I don't really believe you. And here's the reason why I don't believe you. Because >> Okay, >> a I'm looking at orbs spinning around MH370 zapping it out of spaceime and it dates back to 2014. Your papers, your patents only date back to about 2016, 2018. And when I started researching this, of course, I found you right away. Reached out to you. And I have to say, you are probably the bravest engineer that I've ever come across in my time. Most >> it was on your birthday, brother. Remember? I said, right, it was your birthday. I remember. All right. Go ahead. Here's the thing though is that I look at this and I'm seeing this technology and I know that engineering and science is yes you have innovation you have inspiration but it's a process of building upon historical science historical technology and you know I found a bunch of papers going back to like Hal Pudof you know Eric Davis these are things that were going back to the to the 80s to the 80s like ground state of the hydrogen atom you know talking about zero point energy so this is the reason why I think it's hard for people like even myself to believe that you just insp, you know, you just had a moment of inspiration where all five of these patents, you know, room temperature superc conductivity, inertial mass reduction, um, you know, fusion, all of these concepts all together, it seems like you must have had the the source of the inspiration. I don't know if it is the papers or something you saw or something that you're working on, but you know, that's why I think from from our perspective, it seems like there must be something there. Brother, I cannot say anything to convince you otherwise other than the pais effect, the engineering of the super force, the triarchy of sensions. I hope we discuss AI to bring this up. I think it's important. I think one day, as a matter of fact, it's an AGI that will prove the pace effect correct. I just have this feeling artificial general intelligence, it's not truly around the corner. They have to use something causal inference to bring about to induce the possibility of sensient machines. But let me go back to the subject at hand. It's it's uh and causal inference we must discuss. It is the brainchild of a man. I believe he's a he's the award he's the touring award winner by the name of Judea Pearl. We have to discuss that. But anyway, that's down the road when when we discuss AI. Don't forget it's very important we also discuss the plasma disruption fusion weapon because I believe that certain high prominent Chinese research team have hit on this and it's not too much of a step remember equation 7 8 and nine especially equation nine you in a recent podcast mentioned the idea of plasma vortex dynamics bringing about magnetic field energy amplification that's equation nine just look in the plasma compression fusion device paper. You will see it there. It's it's color of B, right? It's on the order of amplification factor times the magnetic flux density, the B field. But anyway, uh you um the people on your podcast, your followers, the people that as a matter of fact, you know, I truly regard you as a brother, a blood brother, just like I regard Dave Rossi. You and him are very close to me. I will I swear to you that I will never lie to you or him or to your audience because I have great respect for you. One day posterity will prove me not a liar when I say that every one of these patent applications, every one of them rests on the pis effect where my brainchild. No, no lie in this, but >> well, yeah, >> it's I I understand why it's hard to believe. >> I sometimes look back >> at put it this way, I had numerous nights on the porcelain throne, let's call it, at 2 am in the morning reading physics paper, physical review papers, some of them putoff, some of them Davis's. Anyway, you know, I I regard these um esteemed gatekeepers. I keep them in high regard even though they did what they did to me. And we have to discuss this. >> Well, let's just let's just get right into it. We're touching a lot of topics. I got a lot of questions to ask you. So, we can start with that if you want. I mean, so >> I would like to start with that because I would like >> here's the rumor. You know, I've spoken to you several times and I just want to clear everything up because what I've been saying is that you got gatekept by Hal Pudof, Eric Davis, Jay Stratton, and that entire crew when you were trying to get your own I think it's a research team. I don't know what you would call it to or like you know uh funding to to do your high energy electromagnetic field generate and your other patents. Can you clarify, >> brother? All right. And let me state for the record. I never signed an NDA on this, so they can pull me in and question me on why I'm saying this, but this is the goddamn truth. Nothing but the truth to you and Dave Rossy and your following. Always the truth. >> Okay. >> In the summer, it was about summer of 2018, right after I believe the patent application called high frequency gravitational wave generator had just been published by the USPTO. So just the patent application, the patent was to be approved later in 2019. But in the summer of 2018, circa summer of 2018, out of the blue comes a gentleman to visit Pax River flanked by two Navy commanders. His name John Stratton. He goes by J. Stratton, but his name is John. Now this gentleman said that uh on on behalf of Dr. Putoff Harold Putoff he would like to understand more of why I wrote this patent application and what exactly are the principal applications of the high frequency gravitational wave generator. By the way a paper that you posted thank you very much for that almost got a million views. So, it's I think it's my most read paper ever. Thanks to you, by the way. Thank you for everything you have done. You're the only true brother. You and Dave Rossi are the only ones who have believed in my work, who have believed in me every time you've been there for me. So, God bless you. God God bless Dave Rossi. God bless your followers and your audience. true Americans, true patriots, and true guardians of disclosure. Real [ __ ] disclosure, not this [ __ ] trickle trickle control [ __ ] disclosure that they're trying to [ __ ] push down our throats and call it serendipitous discovery. Anyway, um yeah, sorry about that. >> So, what happened? So, they showed up and they wanted to know >> they showed up. So he asked me a series of questions on the high frequency gravitational wave generator and so forth. The I could tell the the two Navy commanders were not exactly uh brought up uh on on the subject matter at hand, but they look very interested in what I had to say. And there's certain things that I'll rather not say that. >> Yeah, >> again, just because I did not put in the disclaimer doesn't mean I don't play by a cube. We're not here to educate and enlighten the enemy. And trust me on this, these guys are very close to something. >> Sure. >> Very close. >> Okay, go ahead. >> They they screwed you over. And let me ask you then, cuz let's We can leave kind of >> Wait, that's the beginning. >> Oh, okay. >> I started work about a year later at the Washington Navy Yard. I was working at the time. As a matter of fact, my plasma compression fusion device was uh was was accepted while I was a um while I was working at Navy SSP uh strategic systems programs. You know what they deal with. Now, at the time, I was extremely fortunate that um I will not say the admiral's name again. I work for the United States government. There's certain things I would rather not discuss. The admiral is an amazing man. Applied physics degree, a true connoisseur of great of great science. What he had to say about the high frequency gravitational wave generator is very interesting. But anyway, that's what started it all. I was asked to go to the Russell Senate building and actually give two briefings to highly placed uh the technical staffing committee of the Senate Armed Services Committee so SASC and that was on two occasions and that's why I met a gentleman by the name of Thomas Kirk McConnell. He goes by Kirk McConnell. He headed a committee of uh there were four of them. It was Kirk McConnell or Thomas Kirk McConnell, Jason Potter, Kraton Green, and a gentleman by the name of Robert Winkl. I've never met him. >> Can one Kurt McConnell is the same one that's on the UAP disclosure fund? That Kurt McConnell. >> Kirk McConnell, sir. >> Okay, just go ahead. >> Yeah. Uh, he knows me well. Now, very well. Now, he's the one that truly wanted to get me the lab and the team. He really pulled for it. I have never seen anyone beside you and Dave Rossi be so strong behind me as this gent Kirk understood my physics. He he understood what the pious effect could bring and he tried very hard. As a matter of fact, there was a committee of four with him leading and the other three gentlemen I mentioned. One of them I have never met. Now they went on a I believe it was a summer in 2019, summer of 2019. Then they went for the entire day to to Pax River to speak with Dr. James Shehy at the time. He was no longer CTO but again he still was SCS so senior executive. Let me just pause real quick cuz James Shehy is he was the CTO of what are they? >> At the time the five patent applications were actually briefed to the invention evaluation board and three of them had passed to be patents. So all all three had become patents by the time they had gone on their let's say their trip for the whole day to talk to the invention evaluation board. see what the PI effect is all about because as you well remember those great articles by Brett Tingley. I owe I owe Brett Tingley a great debt of gratitude. He's a great man by the way. He's the chief editor of space.com now. He's he's no small potatoes. He's actually very I think uh he's quite prominent and he he'll rise quickly. He's very smart man. He he got away from Tyler. I won't mention the last name. No need. You know who I'm talking about now. Um, it was Tyler that insisted, by the way, on on them be called UFO. Again, at every point in time, they have tried to put down my work. For example, this latest uh individual that wrote the article in the London Times saying, you know, this this man wants to build UFO technology for America. that particular I think you've posted it correct because I sent it to you. Thank you very much for doing so again deriding the pais effect deriding the super force calling all my work basically pseudocience and and saying that I uh I uh I am afraid that China will steal my ideas that I'm not sure what exactly was trying to do like get me uh in trouble with the Chinese. Well, so just to go back to the main core here, do you think that the people that were gatekeeping it were doing it because they've already got it figured out and they don't want you to do it? Why would you need this technology? Go ahead. >> Let me let me continue the story. I'm sorry to go on so many tangents. I should focus. This is one of my >> worst >> uh characteristics. I sometimes don't have the ability to focus on a subject. I go on many tangents sometimes never arrive at the point. I I will try very hard to keep it straight this time. Now even though everything is curved as you well know from general relativity now Joe Desix right now uh the idea being this at around 6:30 on that evening on the day that I've gone spoken to all members of the invention evaluation board including one of the greatest patent lawyers in my opinion that ever lived Mr. Mark Loot of the Office of Patent Council at PAX, a remarkable man, wrote with me all five patent applications. As a matter of fact, the one on the craft using an inertial mass reduction device. Well, I better not say that here, but he knows tremendous accolades to to be able to pass that through USPTO, especially with the primary principal patent examiner. We talk about a GS-15 here. basically just writing back to our office appeal just to just two words see appeal and allowing it is it's just something that's never been done in my opinion in USP history but anyway so that night that afternoon at at 6:30 Kirk gives me a call and says most likely you've got your team and your lab you know we have certain things to take care of and I visited I believe I went to the Russell Senate building again to give another briefing to him. I think it was uh Kraton Green at the time and two other gentlemen I cannot mention um very high up but from different agencies. Now uh so you can imagine my exhilaration the dream of my life right? >> Yeah. supposedly, and this I only heard as a rumor. I will not say exactly who told me. There's no need for that. Um, through John Strat, J Stratton, two individuals, two great gatekeepers whose names you very well know, no need to remind your followers, especially of them, intervene and said, "There was nothing there. Don't do it. No lab, no team. Now I ask you, let me >> Yeah. >> If if you under and you have seen some of the physics of the pious effect and what it can lead to, I use very simple mathematics to create some quite complex physics. It is not hard to deduce or rather come to the deductions that I've made. And yet no team, no lab on such what would be called disruptive, not only disruptive technologies, but technologies that would make any nation that possesses them invincible. >> Mhm. >> No lab, no team. So I ask you now, what does that mean to you? You have great analytic capability. What does that mean to you? No, that means they already had it. And I mean, I know they already had it because I'm literally watching three fusion balls circling around a plane, zapping it out of the sky in 2014. So, the point for me is when I look at the MH370 videos, I realize, holy crap, there's a major cover up happening here. And it's not just something on the surface like this requires coordination behind the scenes to ensure that nobody figures this technology out. And so then when I hear about this story, which you told me uh several months ago, I go, they must be they must be gatekeeping that because they've already got it figured out and they don't want anybody else to figure it out and it's technically a waste of resources for somebody to reinvent the wheel that they've already solved. Now my question though is those guys are like connected to Air Force I think, but you're more connected on the Navy side. So, is there some kind of Navy versus Air Force versus, I don't know, CIA, DIA? What's going on with that? >> Something very strange happened in 2020. I have never heard of it. As a matter of fact, I believe it was um Jay Anderson or Project Unity that put it on his ex, he made it a expost. The US Air Force looked into the plasma compression fusion device. They actually made a sber, you know, a sber sib >> the sbers are the uh the funding awards that they give to people. Yeah. Go ahead. >> Gave a small grant on the order of maybe like 45k to two gentlemen over over the summer, I guess, to look into the mathematics, look into the possibilities of what I was saying. I have no idea what happened. I didn't see a report on it. I completely disappeared. There's no results of that. s what >> whatsoever. >> I think Jay posted it. Yeah. But anyway, >> so what's your opinion? >> Do you agree? >> Of course they have it. They must have it. Otherwise, tell me would you given what you've seen and I'm pretty sure that if I went to the blackboard in front of you and you had say all the physics degree in the world and I showed you simply very simple just using the Oliver heavyside they call the heavyside Gibb um version of Maxwell's equations based coupled with a simple harmonic oscillator and I was able to show you mathematically ally prove that magnitude of pointing vector is huge. We talk about nonlinearities on the order of omega square omega cub depending again on whether you use accelerated or rapid acceleration transients acceleration spin and or accelerated vibration. What would you have done? Would you have given me that lab and take engineer the future? No, I'd have gay kept the hell out of you. I'd have gay kept the hell out of I would have done the same thing they do. And this actually kind of leads me to my next question is why why are they hiding this? Cuz I don't believe that people are just good or evil. I think that people are generally a mix of both. And I look at people like Hal Pudof and Eric Davis and I'm inspired by the science they've put out, but I also realize there's a dark side to all this too. The gatekeeping side of it. I'll tell you my opinion is that they think they're doing it for the right reasons, right? And and I I don't like to get too political, but I kind of look back at co, right? >> Both of them are patriots. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Never ever doubt that. >> Did I ever tell you that >> Davis used to be Navy? Uh Harold Putoff, CIA. Both of them extremely patriotic. >> In the depths of their hearts, they believe they're doing the correct thing. And most likely they are. >> Why? Because however, the problem is that the enemy has caught up. [Music] >> Interesting. >> Let me tell you something very it's based on the physics of the plasma compression fusion device. It is very possible by using the physics that I describe in that paper with a few modifications important modifications based on let's call it a Z pinch with a fusion twist. That's not that's all I'll say. Do not ask me for more. Okay. It is possible to engineer a plasma disruption fusion weapon which would make the Telulam thermonuclear device inconsequential with respect to energy yield. M >> the whole idea being spontaneous disruption of collective magnetic fields. >> There's great power that can be harnessed in magnetic fields as you all know. >> Yeah. This >> seems that magnetism is the most important >> the most important phenomena. Go ahead sir. Sorry. You mentioned this in your room temperature superconductor patent about the Q factor and you defined it as the amount of energy that can be stored versus the amount of energy lost I believe. >> Yes sir. >> And and you said the Q factor could be between four or no no uh uh what is it? >> It's 10 to the 4 to 10 the 9th but >> it can exceed 10 to the 9th. It can actually exceed 10 something like a YBCO superconductor. Right? I think that's what you >> remember YBCO when you use it in practice. See that's the beauty of physics. There's a lot of stuff that's possible in physics. And that's why I'll never understand why physicists make fun of engineers because it's engineers that make the physics truly work. >> As a matter of fact, if you were to use YBCO, it proves highly brittle. You can't do much with that [ __ ] >> There's other things that you can use. >> Okay, fair. I think the benefit of YCBO was that it's like uh it's a ceramic, so you can shape it into whatever shape you potentially want. It's brittle and that's a downside. But the point being there is that according to the physics that both you and I strongly believe and know to be real and true, you could make a plasma weapon that can amplify energy to a degree that it's hard to even comprehend, which makes the Teller Ulam look like a little toy, which should not be surprising to people because even during Project Ripple, uh, which was when the the government was testing the fusion bombs, they were finding energy outputs that they could produce that were like a million times more powerful than the A- bombs So this is essentially saying the same thing but kind of explaining more how it could be possible. What would be the actual mechanism potentially using plasma because plasma may be you know uh the for it's the force state of matter that may be one of the ways to pull it off. You've mentioned non-equilibrium plasmas many times. So let me just kind of >> spontaneous spontaneous disruption of magnetic fields ultra high B fields you know what can be done with B fields remember this is magnetic flux density that we're speaking of highly dynamic in nature magnetism in my opinion controls everything >> I agree and I think it's do you did you watch any of my professor U from NASA stuff his on theory is that everything. >> A very interesting man. Most definitely. Yeah. I I wonder how he fared at NASA. They uh these days they don't take uh they don't they don't take well to Mavericks. >> Yeah. That's why I love him even more though, honestly. So, real quick, I I don't want to get too sidetracked because I want to ask you, are you afraid of criminal penalties if you say the wrong thing? >> Of course, we all are. hold that whole security clearances. You have to understand these days it is so easy to get rid of a person. You no longer have to assassinate them. This is a thing of the past. Nowadays it's done economically. They take away your security clearance. You can no longer hold the job. You lose your house. You lose your family. You become homeless. This is America, my brother. This is America. >> No, I want to tell you something. And I think they did that to this guy named Justin Cow. He was good friends with Edward Lynn, the guy who I've identified as leaking the videos. And not to dox him, but we dug him up and we we suspected that he might be the guy that he leaked the videos to or has some connection to it. And it turns out he's like working at Costco now. You're like, so and so you wonder like how could they destroy people? It's actually a lot easier than killing people nowadays. Disgredit them. never allow them to be platformed anywhere. Take away their money. Make sure that they can never get another job ever again. Like I actually worry about these things. Like I have a normal job when I do this. And my biggest fear of all of this is that if I were to lose that job, they've had everybody attack me. Now when Googles my name, they find Ashton Forbes is a fraud. All this crap that's just basically BS. But end of the day, there's nothing you can really do about it. They they own all the media. Brother, as long as our survival depends on others, we are all slaves. Whether we agree with being called that or not, it's insignificant. That's what we are, brothers. >> Slaves. >> I have a few more kind of primer questions that are not physics related before we get into the physics stuff. One I've been wondering about. Why did you wait until 2022 to start making public appearances? I mean, your patents were out there approved in 2018, right? And they were making headlines. >> Actually, there was a very interesting pod that I saw that really got me started. Um, I believe it was on Project Unity with Jay Anderson. He interviewed Brett Tingley and Brett Tingley said that he tried to reach out and he never, you know, that he'd like to know more. He and at the time I will tell you the truth, I I was still hoping for a lab and a team. It's it's unbelievable. You wouldn't believe the blood, sweat, and tears that I've poured over the pace effect and the super force. All this work, all this idea generation and it's not easy generating new concepts. Not at all. You one day will realize that posterity will prove me not a liar, >> brother. Posterity will prove me not a liar. I can't do more than that. There have been such great men that have, how should I say, suffered for the innovation. Well, >> Tesla is the greatest. >> Why did you wait then? Why were you not like just Especially if you were being gatekeeped in 2018? Why didn't you come out right away, start doing podcasts, start explaining it? Why why the delay? Because people didn't think you, you know, people didn't think you were a real person for a while till you started doing podcasts and interviews. >> Yeah. >> People were looking you up. You didn't exist. I was looking you up. You didn't exist. >> A lot of things happening in my personal life. A lot of things happening um in my professional life. There were a lot of things that I was contending with, but in the end, I just said, "Let's do it." Because people have to know the truth. Sooner or later, the truth must win. The truth has to win. Otherwise, all this is for not. Everything we're doing, all this slaving away every [ __ ] day, doing the same thing over and over again, trying to please some individuals that basically cannot be pleased. Is this all there is to life? >> That is the life of a slave. And I refuse to be a slave because fear is for [ __ ] slaves. It's fear that keeps us slaves. And I've been so [ __ ] afraid all the [ __ ] time that I've said enough. Enough. Sooner or later. If something has to happen, it will happen. So let's go for broke. Yeah. You know what? That's a beautiful thought and I agree with you. That's actually my exact view cuz I've wondered and sh and struggled with these concepts of national security, the danger of this this technology, whether or not it's just better to that we don't have it. And that's the craziest part is I actually agree with the Haluds and the Eric Davis's, the CIA, the people that are hiding this technology. The dangers are, as you just pointed out, the plasma disruption weapon, they they're real and it's very scary. But at the same time, we are slaves. We're literally living as slaves in this world where we could have Jetson level level technology, but we've just decided that we're going to intentionally blind ourselves. And the worst part to me is that we don't even get to decide. We don't even get to decide is that other people have decided, the woke disclosure crew has decided that well, it it's just not, you know, it's not the right time or we're not ready for it or or whatever. And to me, that's the biggest thing that says, you know what, screw it. We're just going to see what happens. You know, >> that's right. trickle trickle immaculate constipation. Have you noticed in these so-called congressional hearings, same actors, same almost the same actors and even if the faces are not similar, what they're spewing is almost the same material. >> So, do you want to still get a team if you could get one in a perfect world right now to do your thing or have you moved on? Uh it it has to be uh within our United States government confines. That's the only way I would do it. My >> China is offering a China's offering you a million dollars. You going to take it? >> I am sorry. Are you kidding me? I am I will always I will die an American patriot. I believe in this country. >> I believe in the greatness of the United States of America. When I came here as a child, I kissed the ground on the tarmac because in the old days, at least in the airline I came with, they had stairs. We didn't have that uh tunnel that now, you know, goes to the aircraft. We had stairs and I actually climbed down the stairs and when I touched ground, I fell on all fours and kissed the ground. That was my first gesture to America. I'll never betray this country. >> [ __ ] it. >> [ __ ] everyone else. We're the best and we will prove it. >> If this plant does get vaporized away in a plasma disruption device and I'm going to get vaporized on the United States of America. So, I'm with you on that one. Um, let me ask then, uh, do you when you figure this stuff out, when you're working on this, when your co-workers are working on this, do people freak out? Do people have like a psychological collapse from some of this? I mean, just talking about what we're talking about right now, I imagine if I was working on, you know, the patents, the experiments and stuff that are related to your uh your work. I mean, I could see how this could just you realize that, oh, everything's a big lie. The petro dollar is a lie. You know, I can see how this might mess with people's heads. Does that happen to people? >> It's possible, brother. I will tell you I would have not brought this up but when I saw those five citations actually four from highly placed Chinese research teams and one of them in IT e institute of journal of cybernetics you know what a compact fusion device can also be used in >> imagine an army of those Well, and China's not messing around. They're they're showing off their drone formations, you know, and it kind of makes me wonder. Trump recently just said that we have weapons that we're super far ahead, but China can catch up in like 5 years. He he said that specifically. So, I agree with you. I think that there is a concern there. So, and I imagine that that's part of the reason why this disclosure is moving forward. I mean, not the disclosure that we're doing. and they're just moving anyway. But like the controlled disclosure is that they also realize that because they're not stupid. They realize that, you know, China's working on this, Russia's working on this. People ask me all the time. So I'm going to ask you here in a second. People ask me, Ashton, does China have this? Does Russia have this weaponry? Some people are sure that they have it and we don't have it. And the way I tell people is I say they'll of course they understand the science, of course they understand the physics, but it's more than that. engineering devices that can zap a Boeing trip 7 is more than just understanding the physics like you have to have a whole apparatus to be able to build build this stuff and over time you're advancing this technology further and further. Do you agree with that perception or what's your view of it of the advancement of the technology? >> 100%. And not only that, but think coupling. Imagine an AGI hooked up to a compact fusion, say a plasma fusion comp compression device plus something like a high energy electromagnetic field generator. Imagine what that could do. I don't like to imagine it but go ahead keep going. >> The whole idea of serendipitous fusion of imagination and information is extremely important toward bringing up advanced innovation. What I'm trying to argue for here truly is that say disruptive technology for example this plasma disruption fusion weapon any country any army that feels this weapon first is invincible. All you have to do is have say at the time we have reached AGI level the enemy's AGI would immediately say go over the concept or the blueprints of the weapon would immediately realize this thing. You wouldn't have to detonate the thing to see it work because that would destroy half the world. So what you do is have the AGI battle the other AGI so-called. Yeah. right now a swarm of drones. I have a feeling one day it'll be their AGI versus our AGI. Hopefully not ASI because I have a feeling ASI might just do away with the army and say, "You know what? I'm all omnipotent. >> We don't need it." There was a show, what was the name of it now? I just forgot the name of the show, but I had been talking about it's this animated show and that's actually what the it's all about is all about >> they call it uploaded intelligence. So, the way they get around the whole AI thing is they say, "Well, we're just going to upload people." And they become an AI. And immediately what happens is exactly what you just said is that the AI figures everything out. The AI hits the singularity. The AI the countries that can control the AI start using them in cyber wars with each other and nobody really knows what's going on in the beginning because all of a sudden like missile strikes are happening but nobody really approved it and then you're finding out, oh, the AGI did it. So let's talk a little bit about AI then because I know you wanted to >> let's discuss this strategy of sensions I think it's important and let's discuss this idea of data centers versus something called the scaling factor it's incredibly important to understand this in my opinion there's a metamorphosis process that can occur from an AI say an AI agent an artificial intelligent I think by the way AI is a misnomer my brother. I think uh the president was correct when he said it shouldn't be called AI. It should be called something like for example machine intelligence. >> See human intelligence versus machine intelligence. This artificial part is just not there. I don't see it. It's machine intelligence. You should learn to differentiate the two. Again we are a natural entity. We give rise to natural concepts. There's nothing artificial. That's machine intelligence. Now the first arc of the triarchy of sensients is again compute. The whole idea of computing power. You have to amass as much computing power as possible. >> Let me set the framework here. So when we're talking about the triarchy of sentience, we're talking about what does it take to make AI become AGI. We're talking about correct maybe not sentience if we're going to talk about in terms of machine learning but like super intelligence like how does the AI take the next jump and move up to the super intelligence. So number one you just said is computing power right you need a huge amount of computing power. Go ahead. >> And this is where these data c centers come in. These humongous, for example, Meta wants to have one the size of Manhattan because we we're talk about liquid cooling and we're talking about, for example, right now I believe they're using H100s. That's uh a GPU graphical processing unit. But H100s, I think I think of the past. They will introduce GB300s. These are far far far. So we no long we're no longer talking GPUs. We're talking TPUs. We're talking tensor processing units. The whole idea you know what a tensor is the whole idea of magnitude and multiple directions. Now the truth of the matter is it my opinion this computing power will be greatly greatly enhanced by a room temperature superconductor. The second one, let's leave it there again. E cubed the um not only will that do certain things, but it will minimize greatly minimize to the size that that individual from the institute or rather journal of cybernetics in I have a feeling intended to use the compact fusion device for but anyway won't go there. The second arc in the triarchy of sensients is the vector databases. You don't get your information from [ __ ] Reddit or group or crap you grab off the internet. No, you get it from physical review letters from uh um nature science from highly placed journals from doctoral thesis that have been experimentally verified and validated. So in other words this is highly ver verifiable highly validated experimental data also conceptual and but again mostly experimentally and verified and validated veed databases. Second arc now this is extremely important in my opinion. The third arc represents the completion of the metamorphosis of the AI agent on AGI, let's call it um superb brain. >> Mhm. >> Um so we are talking about IQ's even past Einstein, past 163. Can imagine what that can do, especially when applied to problem solving. The third arc has to do with the uh ability of the AGI or rather the AI agent to generate an original concept never before seen in the literature ever experiment in anything that you have seen there say unclassified and possibly there could be a classified stream if you want to go there only information in skiff versus unclassified information. So it could be a dual branching thing. But anyway, so once that original concept has been generated, once it's experimentally verified and validated that it is not an hallucination, then I believe that the AI agent has achieved AGI status. >> So I mean >> that's a sentence. If we add that up, I mean that's a beautiful thought because one right processing power need a huge amount of processing power >> and uh I was actually sharing right there. I don't know if you saw this. Let me pull it back up again right here. This is actually a paper from 2022 from Cornell that uh corroborates your room temperature superconductor from a topological uh insulator that they're able to produce here. And at the bottom of this, it actually mentions they might be able to use this to produce cubits for quantum computers as well. >> Wow. So, >> oh sir, I have to mention something. This is very important. There is a paper on archive. For some reason, they've left it there. It is called the way to high temperature superconductivity. It has been written by a doctor Victor. V I c last name L A K H N O LNO. Victor L >> of sciences >> he argues >> he argues as a matter of fact in reference 10 of his paper where he actually gives the patent application for the room temperature superconductor based on the pais effect and he argues he actually gives the physical mechanism for what he thinks makes the pis effect room temperature superconductor work. He believes it may work. He says an alternating magnetic field forms the Bose Einstein condensate. Again, macroscopic quantum coherence and then an alternating current moves the condensate. >> That is the physical mechanism. It's based on what he calls a bipolar mechanism. The man has written recently a high temperature superc conductivity book. I believe one day Dr. Lachno may just win the Nobel Prize. I think he hit I I truly believe that he got he got the right idea for achieving and he too believes this to be an active room temperature super. So in other words, there's the chemical part which would be called a passive or conventional room temperature super or high temperature superconductor and an unconventional or active room temperature superconductor. So something you do not need m certain material properties to make this happen. It's truly based on certain vibrations >> and that that is so mind-blowing to me. I hope the people watching this absorb this because in when we think of superc conductivity, we've just been thinking single-mindedly about it. We've been thinking, oh, we have to produce this meta material that will just be superconductive at a certain temperature. And yes, they can make high temperature superconductors, but even those are, you know, maybe 100 degrees higher than absolute zero or something like we're talking room temperature. And we're saying it's unconventional because you might be able to just do it with any metal and you might be able to just induce the superconductivity at that high temperature. And that's just a whole different path, a whole different way of going about it. It's kind of analogist to like how inertial confinement fusion has multiple different approaches as well that are all very similar, but they may do completely different outcomes. >> So, real quick, going back to the AI. >> Yes. um processing power sources, which I'm glad that I've coined the term Reddit brain because I feel like Reddit brain may now start to become like an actual thing. So you if you feed it feed it real peerreview papers from black project engineers and then the third one is if it can produce original concepts. Clearly if something can produce an original concept when you said that >> never before seen it has to be something completely new. The idea that now all of a sudden this so in other words the machine the machine intelligence has achieved human intelligence capability. That's what the third arc signifies. That's why it's so important because now you're talking about possibility of initiating machine sensions. It it may not be complete machine sensions but partial. To get there, you have to use Judea pearls in my opinion. Um, something called causal inference. You have to look this up. Your followers too. Judea pearl. P E A R L. First name Judea spelled like the Romans uh spoke of course the an the ancient Hebrew province. >> So, >> Israel, >> you know what this reminded me of? It reminded me of people saying that the United States government had figured out AI, but they killed it. They killed it. Because I would think, what would be the thing where I would say, "Oh, we figured out, you know, sentient AI." Well, when sentient AI starts spitting out original concepts, that's when I'm going to start freaking out. If I'm I'm go, okay, this thing's alive. Like, it can't, you know, AI can't spit out original concepts otherwise. Do you think that that happened or I mean, does that seem plausible to you that that's already occurred? Because if we're talking if we have this other technology, why don't we have AI at this point? >> Brother, I don't even need to answer that. You already know the answer, but it's nice of you to ask. Yeah, that Thank you. I appreciate the uh of what they always bring about these things years after they have developed them and they give it to the monkeys here. Play play with these instead of your balls. Are you sick and tired of playing with your balls? Play with these new gadgets while they move on to something new. >> Well, so if we do have it, then here's what's scary. Here's the next scary question. Are we obsolete? I mean, if something has a processing power that you described, it has the access to sources that we don't even have access to, you know, classified sources, and it can produce original concepts. I'm going to be honest, the fact that an AI can produce original concepts kind of makes it more sentient than like most people on this planet in my opinion. So, are we obsolete compared to machines? >> Never, brother. Never. We are fragments pieces of a much larger puzzle that is called the super intelligence. And one day hopefully on another pod. See how I Anyway, I put on myself. You're the only one who gives a [ __ ] about my stuff anymore, man. So anyway, >> we got to discuss >> we got Thank you, brother. Like big time. We got to discuss something called the Triarchy of Creation. It is the super force at the super density condition which is like on the order of 10 to the 96 kilogram per meter cube that kind of super density. So again it is the super force 10 the 44 newtons at that super density condition that generates a super bang because of something called a quantum bounce. It's part of an idea brought forth by uh abashar of lube quantum gravity. Now the whole idea you have to go back to Anthony Parat uh student of Hans Alvain the great Alfane magneto hydronamic Albane. Now he believed that uh the entirety of our cosmos is really a uh not only a super fluid on discrete scales on quantum scales but plasma 99% plasma and you as you well know from certain writings of Dr. Joseph Arrow under certain conditions even Alfane in his writings argued that plasma under none equilibrium conditions could become sensient. So what we're speaking of super Fox acting at the super density condition um generating a super bang because of the plasma nature of the cosmos generating a super intelligence quantum entanglement everything is related the whole idea our philosophies hermeticism her stress magistras Hermes tric the whole idea all is one there's so much truth truth in our philosophy. Physics should have never been divorced from philosophy. We must marry them again. That's the only way. The human being will never be obsolete ever. >> Even if ASI comes on the scene, the human being is essential because again this is machine intelligence versus human intelligence. They are desperate. They are they have different sources. One springs from our intellect. The other from the great one, the one, the true one and only one, the super intelligence controls everything and all. >> So no, we will never be obsolete. >> But we must get over the slavery [ __ ] >> somehow. >> Do you think aliens are machine intelligence? >> Some quite possibly some. Absolutely. depending on think of this just run a thought experiment say that your civilization has millions of years of existence you've gone through the AI GI ASI phase >> you have engineered cyborgs the whole idea of the institute of cybernetics the whole idea of a compact fusion unit we even thought of this um even though Uh, I I don't think he used Fusion. He used Fision. What's the name of the I forget the DC comic thing? Is it >> is it DC comic or is it Marvel? >> Um, >> I know all the superheroes. Which superhero we talking? >> Um, >> Robert Oh, Iron Man. >> Yeah, that's it. That's it. >> I think it was vision based though. I'm not sure exactly how that up. But anyway, yeah, he must have had a very good neutron capture device. But anyway, >> oh arc reactor. Is that what you're talking about or whatever? >> Yeah, I don't think there was fusion. Yeah. >> Speaking of fusion, >> why are we hiding fusion from the world? >> Oh my god. >> I mean, you have a knew >> uh >> you know, do you agree? Give me a better question. >> Oh, go ahead. I will never forget a great man by the name of Robert Bousard. He was at Google and he was giving a lecture at Google and he was talking about DAX and he um he just looks at the audience and says my fellow travelers or you know have you ever seen a star in the form of a [ __ ] donut? Did he use the [ __ ] I just added that for public consumption. Have you ever seen a star in the form of a donut? >> Not me. >> Nothing else be need be said. That was a great man. Busousard was as a matter of fact he came up with this thing called CQ. I believe that I discuss it in my paper. They uh uh at the time they were undergoing some fusion studies. They have dropped off since. I don't know if they've gone dark or uh maybe um well, you all know Helon fusion >> reverse. Anyway, yeah, let's leave that where it is. Those are what I called those that is the uh >> regime or rather the the what's the word I'm looking for? That is the realm of the great tech lords. I think there's no need to go there. >> Well, how do you think we're going to power those data centers, S? It ain't going to be solar power, my friend. We ain't >> solar power, man. I mean, it's Manhattan size. Why not put it on the rooftops? >> But I think that's part of this disclosure too. To me, when I'm looking at the fringes of disclosure, where is disclosure going to come from? It's coming from AI. It's coming from these data centers. It's coming from big tech because they need the technology to keep advancing, but they also need to keep it kind of hidden behind the scenes. Um, and so for me, finding helium fusion was like a holy crap moment because I went back and looked at your fusion pad and sure enough you I think you just broach on the subject of a neutronic fusion and potentially I think you said something about maybe using boron or something. >> Boron 11 is very important. Boron 11 is very important. Correct. Uh the um of course you need extremely high temperatures but it's not the temperatures that matter. Remember physics always has a way to give you other ways of achieving the same objective. On one side you have something on the order of row RT. On the other you have something on the order what 12 MB² that speed is nonlinear I believe. What's the temperature? The temperature is linear. Speed is nonlinear. So if you can accelerate something Exactly. >> David Kirkley was the one saying though that because of course he's the C CEO of Helium fusion and his videos guys if you haven't seen them check them out. You know everybody has this conception that you need this very high temperature to achieve a neutronic fusion. And he says experimentally we're seeing energy we're seeing temperature levels much lower than what we thought. And then in fact he even says they're not even trying to get ignition. He says we're not even trying to produce ignition. That's not even something they're concerned about because instead they're saying much like a electric car, they're able to recycle a lot of the energy kind of like with a braking system in an electric car can recycle the energy. And so really it's more of a matter of what's the input versus the output. And they're achieving over unity in non-equilibrium plasmas by the way um without even getting to ignition levels. I think it's like 10 times lower than what they were expecting. >> I don't know. >> Engineering the preosin effect. Remember? >> Yes. >> What brings what brings room temperature super conductivity? There are three effects. Remember them. >> Yes. And I have to look here. I have the paper up in the side. But yes, the pregagene effect is one of them because the pregagene effect is order from chaos, right? Spontaneous order. >> Cooper effect and the misner effect. >> Oh yeah. Meisner. Yep. So expelling the magnetic fields and then the Cooper effect is Cooper pairing getting our our electrons to pair up or electron phonons to pair up. >> Dr. Dr. Lagno has this idea of the bipolar. It's a little different but it's still pairing of diff slightly different sort. Ow. >> Sorry man. Old guy you know everything hurts. >> But going back to helium I want to talk about them just a little bit more. All right, I mentioned that a um non-equilibrium, but the other thing I want to show you here as well. I'm going to pull this up. Oh, let me change my share screen. Um is another paper I found. This paper right here, I think you probably recognize this guy. His name is Edward Teller. And this here says space propulsion space by fusion space propulsion by fusion in a magnetic dipole. So I just asked the AI, hey, does this have anything to do with say for example, you know, field reverse configurations? And sure enough, the AI spit back out to me right away. I couldn't even believe how how uh specific this was going to be. It says the work proposes a conceptual design for fusion rocket propulsion system using magnetic dipole to confine dutyium helium 3 plasma. And it says that that it's defined by MHD stability with high beta values potentially greater than one which this it says these elements closely align with field reverse configuration approaches which also use compact high betas and reverse magnetic fields for propulsion and fusion. Both are open magnetic systems that facilitate easier exhaust for rocket thrust. So >> now remember the fuels. Think of the fuels though because it's important. You are talking about boron 11 with a neutronic. In my opinion, that's the way to go. But it's much harder. They're talk about dutyium helium 3. So you talk about dutyium something that's basically found all the earth's oceans, sea so forth, everywhere basically there's water. Now >> the other helium 3 not so uh well found but a lot of it on the moon asteroids and other things. Interesting. >> We got to also discuss the idea of apathys coming in 20 in u now in 2029 and again coming around possibly >> high probability of impact 2036. This is another thing that I think is bringing them so-called accelerating the you call it walk disclosure. I call it trickle trickle in immaculate constipation disclosure. I think yours is is um brevity has a quality of its own. So yeah. >> So uh one more thing on the field configuration then we'll I'll talk about aus. So right there I showed Edward Teller was working on that that paper is from 1992 1991 actually was working on propulsion via field reverse configuration. By the way guys if you want to know what field reverse configuration looks like it's a spheramac so it's a plasma sphere. Again when you look up in the sky are the stars donuts? No they're spheres. So just pointing that out. The other connection I found which I want to get your imp input on. So first thing I start doing is start googling who are all the founders of helium fusion because why are they working on field reverse configurations? Why is Sam Ultman and Peter Theal like major investors in this company? They obviously in my opinion got pulled something and then I find out that the co-founder's name is John Slow. Okay, John Slow. Who's that? Well, it turns out he had been, of course, looking into field reverse configurations, plasma fus, uh, plasma propulsion and plasmoids. And I find out that one of the top contributors to his work, top co-authors is Richard Escridge of NASA Marshall Space Flight Center. >> Oh, >> now this is interesting. >> Yeah. his daughter is Amy Escridge who, you know, she passed away a few years ago, but she was trying to bring gravity modification to the world. So, I look at this and it's hard for me to not see a connection like a a causal pattern that goes from nuclear weapons to using this plasma for energy and propulsion and then getting to now where we're getting talking about disclosure of uh anti-gravitational, you know, science and what have you. At least that's what they call it. Do you think that there is this kind of connection that goes back to you know fusion bomb to tied to this technology or do you think that gravity modification is a completely separate branch? >> They could be connected. I think what they really found by detonating weapons, it's exactly what Dr. Joseph Frell has come to the conclusion of. They have noticed that it messes with the the fundamental fabric of our reality, >> the vacuum energy state. >> And that's when certain neighbors of ours, let's call them, showed up, >> among other things. Well, yeah. You're going to most likely interfere with their mode of travel. >> Mhm. >> Anyway, >> wow, that's crazy. But this this connects what everybody's been saying about UFOs. People are saying that the aliens got mad when we started setting off nukes. Why? Why would the aliens care about nukes? So, this planet is insignificant to the aliens. If they have free energy and transmutation technology, they don't need Earth. But why would they be mad? because now we can interfere with their mode of transportation. >> I don't know if we're insignificant to them, brother. I think we have to be very careful with uh with that statement. Remember Charles Ford, Book of the Damned, chapter 12. He actually states, I think we are property. There's something about us that we do not understand. >> Could be if we're property, we're also slaves. But so why do you think that I'm allowed to talk about this? >> Oh, brother, you know how insignificant they think of us? Two apes over here playing with their balls. Okay, so we call them headphones, cameras. Not exactly our balls, but still to them, we're [ __ ] apes. Only in collectives brought about by unification can we exercise a collective force that they would be afraid of. Otherwise we are the fearful ones. Individually we are slaves. It's only when we come and unify into collectives, armies, that we become incredibly incredibly distinct and all of a sudden they care. But doesn't that mean that like my rise in social media should be getting them to come, you know, tell me to stop? Because truthfully, I said all it would take is like $10 million and one Scarlett Johansson clone. That I mean, if you've got free energy technology, that seems like small potatoes to me. But I guess they do you I guess what I'm trying to get at is do you think that they might want some of this to come out? Because that's the conclusion I came to. And tomorrow, just spoiler alert, if you're uh there's a podcast coming out on the Resilient podcast where I talk to a Navy Seal and in the middle of that podcast, he I think it's this one. He basically just says like this is disclosure. You are disclosure. They're letting if you're doing this and they're not stopping you. They want it to happen. Do you think that even like the Hal Pudafs want some of this stuff to come out or what's your thought? >> Why not, brother? We're talking physics here. It's real physics. Whether they dismiss it as pseudocience, they know deep down that this is real. They know that what we're talking the truth of the matter is, man, people that aren't that have certain knowledge that have certain that have gone read all these papers and they they this camaraderie even though you may say I hate that guy. Oh, Eric W. Davis, he doesn't know [ __ ] now. Nonsense. The truth of the matter is deep down there's still respect for that individual, for what they have to say, for what they were able to come up with. That's the truth. There's always camaraderie even upon seeming enemies. As a matter of fact, it's important that you respect your enemy. Extremely important because otherwise you underestimate them and that means your destruction. Anyway, >> couldn't agree more. And I'll tell a story in the same vein that you did at the beginning of this. I think maybe I've said this before, maybe not. So when I was, you know, I found how pudaf through your through your work actually. It was your high frequency gravitational wave generator paper that I think references uh gravity as a zero point fluctuation force. One of your papers does if not. And that's how I first found out about Hal Pudof and was like, wait, isn't this guy in the UFO community? This is weird. And I started reading it and I'm not going to say exactly who, but somebody associated with Hal Pudof sent me a paper. They said, "A friend wants you to read this." And it turned out it was Al Pudof's ground state of the hydrogen atom paper from 1987. And this was when I was early into this, so I didn't know about, you know, the ether, what have you. And I read that and that was the thing that just blew me away. just like wait every atom is in a sea of energy and we know this experimentally and the paper shows that and says that you know we're living in this cauldron of energy and that was why it was how putoff's first paper now personally I believe how pudaf wanted me to read that that it came directly from him through an intermediary >> and that's what's led me to try to figure out like what side are these people on maybe they do want some of this stuff to come out maybe their hands are tied right they've got NDA >> they're human beings brother of course they want humanity to survive You don't need to pause when asked the question, do you want humanity to survive? You don't need to pause. You answer right away. Hint hint. >> Interesting. So, let's go to the next thing. Aus. Why do we give a crap about? Because if you're right, and I know you're right, we can just zap it out of the sky with some orbs. I mean, we zapped a Boeing trip 7 out of the sky. What is the AOS like a hundred or thousand meters across or something like that? At best, it can take out a Tri City. bigger than the one at Chelubian. The one >> that Yeah. Yeah. >> Not Tunguska. >> Yeah. No, not the >> This thing, God forbid, becomes an air burst >> and we are talking about Tunguska to the third power. M. >> So, no. God forbid an air burst. That could, God forbid, happen in 36. Unless, of course, we have Ro, get away from I'm sorry. I have a pycat over here. Roro, get away from there, baby girl. >> Animal lovers here. >> Oh, wait. This doesn't make sense. Like, >> if I'm the government and I've got this technology, I'm just going to deflect the asteroid, right? You just send some orbs. You don't even have to teleport it. Just deflect it somewhere else and be like, "Oh, it uh it's not going to hit us." H crisis averted, right? No way. Everybody will believe. You can literally make up anything, >> brother. It comes with a cloud of debris >> that goes for some even if it doesn't impact even if it just it could take a swath of our LEO satellites just can you imagine with all the infrastructure we have with all the Can you imagine your coms going down for like days on end? I think people would go nuts would start playing with their balls because they have nothing else to play with. But anyway, yeah. >> So, what do you think is going to happen? You think we're going to orbit and then disclosure is going to come or what? What was your >> Oh my god. Uh I think uh we're looking at certain technologies quite possibly being if not by 2029 coming in definitely into fruition by 2036. And of course, Apus having gone through that quote I called keyhole no longer being an issue of destruction of humankind. So >> the dinosaurs weren't that lucky, but maybe um us sensient hybrid machines are. So, >> okay. Well, I'm gonna play I'm actually going to play the MH370 videos here because you told me that you don't work on nukes and you said you don't lie and I believe you don't >> because you don't >> because you don't lie and you can you'll be able to answer I don't have to worry about what questions I'm about to ask you then related to this. >> So, first one is this is just a yes or no question. Did you know exactly what was going on with these orbs in these videos the first time you saw this >> before the creation of let's call it the event horizon that >> rip in the fabric of spaceime happened? Not at all. The one thing, the one thing that got to me though was when they start pulsating this in this manner. I said, "Oh my god, they're going to rip [ __ ] spaceime apart." And then I see it >> and I say if this is not real, whoever designed this, whoever made this knows it, has seen it. >> Yeah. Well, let me ask >> of the reflection way, brother. Again, it's a [ __ ] super fluid. Look toward the physics of what a super fluid would do when you put a rip in the fabric of spacetime. Anyway, yeah, I don't need to tell you that. You've read so many papers, you know what I'm talking >> what S's talking about here though is that when you so slow down the zap, you can literally see the reflection of the tail coming out of this zap. Right here on the right side of this, you can see the total internal reflection. Now, this is what happens in a wave pool when you create ripples in a in a water. And why? Because spaceime itself is a medium. So that's why you're seeing analogous effects here. So that part, sure, but here's the part where I'm really like, look at these orbs. I mean, when you talk about nonequilibrium plasma, isn't that what I'm looking at right there? Why is it a certain Why is it green in an orange slice on this? Isn't that an extremely distinctive feature of a field reverse configuration non-equilibrium plasma? What What do you think? >> Could very well be. >> Again, most likely the outer shell is superconducting in nature. Yeah, definitely is because you can even see the little >> houses it houses a power source. There is something inside. >> Do you think the the green part is the electrons that are grouped together or is it possible that the ions can be hotter because that means they're hotter at that >> non- thermal plasma. The whole idea is that the electrons are causing the effect. The nucleus doesn't come into this into this physics. Now the nucleus talks to the super force. But anyway, that's another thing. That's what the aliens use. I believe the aliens modifi have the ability to modify the super or rather manipulate the super force at different scales. >> Wow. >> They don't use what we use. Anyway, go ahead. >> Well, so also I want to point out here that when the orbs first show up, they're all green. They're all green. When I started reading the Air Force papers, it seemed like they could control the movement of the electrons to control the speed. Basically, they can just use the electrons to add resistance if necessary in the air. And if they want to remove it, then they can just move the configuration around. And I have a feeling this is why they're doing this. Now, what I wanted to ask you though is not exactly that. It's kind of hard to see in this version. I may pull up the other version. There are dark lines coming out of behind the orbs here, but there's no dark lines in front of them yet. But later on in the video, especially when you get near where they before they zapped a plane here, >> there's dark lines in front of the orbs, but only in front of the orbs. Now, there's no dark lines behind the orbs anymore. >> The reason why I'm bringing this up with you is that when I was reviewing your room temperature superconductor um >> paper on Friday, right in there, you mentioned, let me see where it says it. I have it up here. You mentioned there's a fu there could be a fusion reactor on board potentially for these hybrid inertial reduction craft that would use the fusion reactor initially. >> Compact fusion reactor. >> Yeah. >> Ring the bell. >> Would it switch then? Is that what you were trying to say? >> Yo, you said an auxiliary propulsion unit possibly a plasma compression fusion or like a compact fusion reactor would provide the initial thrust and electric power generation. Well, this is what blew my mind because then I'm watching those videos and I'm going, "Wait a minute. Oh, sorry. Is it possible that they they initially are using just compact fusion reactor for thrust?" But after they've locked into orientation, now they're switching over and they're essentially using, you know, space juice 0. They're using uh manipulation of electromagnetic fields now to, you know, begin to produce energy. And are they also, here's another thought, are they storing up energy here? like they're winding up. Is that potentially what's going on? Why there's no exhaust coming out of them? To to your point about, you know, the energy storage versus energy loss, the Q factor. Could these things be charging? >> Q factor most likely comes into being on this one. Yeah, most likely. I have a feeling they have the ability to tap quite possibly manipulate the Schwinger limit at much lower levels than say electric fields on the order of 10^ the 18 volts per meter B fields on the order of 10^ the 9 Teslas. >> I don't think that's needed under certain conditions. I think it can be done. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. That's that's my next question here probably. Um, the energy requirements. This is one part where I'm I hate to say these words, but Jack Sarfati might be right. Is that everybody the big critic >> making my knee thr >> Just by uttering the Scarfati name. >> No, I'm kidding. >> He's a He's coming. >> The truth is he's a good old dude. He's a smart [ __ ] That's the truth. >> He's still a [ __ ] >> All right. Sorry. Go ahead. >> The big criticism that people have posed is that to bend spacetime requires these impossible energy levels. There's no way we can do it. Blah blah blah. And Jack Sarat's view is that no, we can actually bring those energy levels down. I was also listening to Jared Yates, shout out to him from Apek. He was talking about the TR3B science. >> Even though he thinks my thing won't work, >> Jared, man, >> some people just don't see >> of little faith. They just don't see it. There's a lot of people, that's what blows me away, just quick tangent. There's a lot of very smart people, even people that are in the know, that just don't see, they just don't see it. They just don't get it. I don't know how else to describe it. I I put Elon Musk in that category. Like, I I blow >> Elon is one smart dude. I'd like I'd really like to um go on, man. >> Wouldn't you like to be in a room with him one day and just talk to him? uh talk to some of the really really interesting fellows, you know, just pull them all in. Imagine a think tank of that nature. What that could generate, man. Oh, man. Any >> one day, man. I believe I can see it happening one day. As long as I'm alive and not orb to the next dimension. >> Yeah, baby. But you are a lot younger than I am. I don't think I'll see those days. >> But go ahead. >> [ __ ] >> The age thing is another interesting topic. I'm going to write that down. But >> oh, age. Oh, remember our temporal excursion chamber over there? We got to work on that. >> Yeah, we got to live forever. We got to work on that. >> Temporal rejuvenation. That's it. We'll call it temporal rejuvenation chamber. All right. Go ahead, sir. >> Just come up with some magic sounding name. Um, >> so Sarat just physics. >> Yeah, >> go ahead. I think Sarat's view is that if you have metamaterials that can change the permitivity and permeability then the energy requirements to bend spaceime also can be reduced just by looking at the mathematical >> he's right he's right >> if that's true and we don't need metam materials because we can use plasma itself to change the permitivity or permeability >> then if I manipulate the permitivity or permeability of the plasma aka the the vacuum energy then does that mean I can reduce the energy requirements significantly as well in order to manipulate spaceime. It seems like that should be the case. Do you >> there many roads that lead to Rome but there's only one via and there are certain things I will not say on a part now in a skiff that's a whole different matter but I'm starting to sound like Lou. >> No that's fine. I it's I'm I'm pushing the limits. So if Anna Pina Luna, Eric Berles, or any of the other people are out there, well, maybe get the man in a skiff. Just a thought. I just wanted >> last year, I forget when, but I wrote you. Uh the chief of staff of Eric Bullet reached over, but I told him that he's got to contact my peeps at PAX. Otherwise, no. My god, you're kidding. Without their Okay, I would not I would not touch the the congressional arena. I mean, that would be absolute immediate dismissal. >> So, no, >> and I'm not stupid. I mean, well, that can be argued, but you know, >> just just my message to the Congress is that I'm going to absolutely shred every single one of these stupid UFO hearings where I'm listening to some pilot or something talk about the alien alien stuff they saw flying around. Like, I want to hear from engineers. I want to hear from now I don't even want to hear from the physicists. I just want to hear from the engineers that are working on this stuff. I want to hear from people like you. I want to hear from Halaputoff. I want to hear from Eric Davis. I want to hear from Charles Chase. I want to hear from the people that are connected to the Air Force, the Navy, Loheed Martin, the other defense contractors. >> My brother, wait just a second. If they do call me in ever, I doubt it, but if they ever do, I need a ride, man. cuz I I I have some some issues and stuff and if I drive for more than an hour, oh my god, forget about >> I'll be your caretaker. I'll be your caretaker. I'll drive you around. I'll be your chauffeur for the day. >> Oh, you're such a good man. You're such a good Only if you agree to participate with me in the spiel. So, when we start talking, I'll hand it off to you, then you hand it back to me. You know what I'm saying? We'll do a duo, a a dynamic duo. I'm down. >> I'm down. I'll live stream it, too. It'll be great. I mean, it'll be more entertaining than whatever crap they're gonna give us on, >> baby. Maybe we get Rosie there, too. Talk about the three musketeers. Oh my god. You know, we'll we'll be bigger than Rogan. Anyway, go ahead. >> Okay. Well, let's talk some physics here. I I have one more question on these uh these MH370 videos and and I'm only gonna ask it because you said that you don't work on nuclear weapons. Do you think these plasma orbs could be acting as the trigger to a two-stage autonic thermonuclear fusion ignition? Do you think this is a fusion ignition detonation that's happening here? Like is I guess my question is is this like a clean fusion bomb that we're looking at here? I asked this because when I read Friedwart Winterberg's textbook about thermonuclear weapons and I started researching thermonuclear weapons, it's all about first stage trigger and then a second stage fusion ignition. And then in the 60s they were trying to figure out how to make a clean just fusion bomb that doesn't even require the a bomb portion of it. And so I look at this and I >> plasma the plasma disruption fusion weapon would be considered a pure fusion weapon. So, one that does not use what they call a fision secondary. >> Yeah. >> Igniting, of course, the tertiary fusion device. So, what you truly have is a pure fusion weapon. It has no radioactive elements. Therefore, it cannot be detected. So, imagine a weapon of that sorts. >> So, do you think that's what this is? >> You don't need it big. You can miniaturaturize the damn thing anyway. Go ahead. >> Well, I mean, so is that what this is? Are we already looking at that right here? Why or why not, >> brother? I don't care to even think on that. But, uh, I >> is >> I give it I mean, I will say it right now, the more I look at these videos, the more I see exactly what they're doing. >> Yeah. This cannot be a fake. >> There's no >> I don't know much about CGI. I'm not a what of a visual effects, but I know the physics and this is the [ __ ] physics. >> So, I know when I'm looking at a portal and I'm looking at a portal open up and close in a fraction of a second, the orbs converging is really the giveaway. Like, why are the orbs converging? Well, it's Kulum's law, man. It's not really that complicated. It's probably magnetic reconnection. And what they were doing with this fusion uh these nukes they were trying to figure out actually it's mentioned in several uh I think John Knuckles as well mentions this that Friedwart Winterberg and John Knuckles both mentioned potentially using plasma as your trigger as for your uh instead of lasers because right now with inertial confinement fusion they're trying to use lasers. I can only see plasma get mentioned, but if this is, you know, a fusion bomb, then that's what's happening here is they're using plasma as the trigger for this cleanronic reaction. Um, but what I want to ask you is why is there an X-ray flash of photons? I have two views of this. I mean, one is that in these fusion bombs, it releases X-rays. Like even Brilliant Light Power doing their hydr stuff, it's releasing X-rays. >> Well, on the spectrum, what are we talking about? 10 to the 16 hertz. >> Yeah. I don't know exactly >> and higher 10 to the 16 because I believe 10 to the 20 and higher is gamma. >> So >> but is it happening because of the fusion reaction or is it happening because spacetime is being manipulated and therefore you're seeing a blue shift factor or is it some combination of the two? I'm a little confused on that. Is any insights you can give me? >> I'm not sure of that either, brother. >> Okay. But I to me it's the reflection wave that says it all because if I know anything I know certain physics of super fluids and what I saw there I said how the hell in a million [ __ ] years how can you get that right? I mean >> the greatest and why would you put so much effort time and okay say they this is CGI or something that means they must have seen the effect because that's the only way you can do what you what the physics tell you should happen it it it's unbelievable though it's unbelievable that they let the individual that if indeed is it's commander Lynn that they let him live. It's wow. >> Yeah. I mean >> to wonder why could it have maybe somebody thought you know maybe this could be part of a disclosure process something of that name. I I don't know. I'm just saying >> there's a lot of speculative thoughts on that front and my view has been that it must have been unintentional or he didn't know what he was doing at the time. Um he's also connected. I actually spoke to somebody that worked with him in the VPU2 Wizards and they said that everybody thought he was like the golden child. Like for some reason he was kind of being blessed. >> So, and then his sister works at Homeland Security. Uh actually she's a lawyer and countering weapons of mass destruction. She even has a paper about next generation weapons beyond nukes which is a little weird. >> Um >> yeah. >> And then her husband, I don't know if you know, is Shawn Naylor. He's um MSM MSM journalist and national security and he was talking to Danny Jones about what it takes to what the president has to do to authorize exjudicial executions. So he may just have been a very connected person and that may be why he didn't go to prison forever or worse. Um, but at the end of the day, unless Edward Lynn um, you know, mans up and comes out and, you know, decides to to whistleblow on this, we we may never know the full truth, but we'll see. >> You know, you touched something. If I may just interrupt for a bit, cuz you mentioned um, weapons beyond nukes and some, you know, a little spark, couple of photons here and there, photo. Anyway, um, imagine something that can control the Higs field, quantum field theory. So, we're going to go with what we know. We talk about what, 125, 126 GVs. >> Mhm. >> Imagine something that can control the Higsfield in the local proximity of say an individual, a tank, an aircraft. poof. Complete disruption. Everything just flying off at the speed of light, I believe. >> Yeah, that's the pos that's that's if you can manipulate the Higsville locally, there is a lot of things you can do. And guess what? >> The super force can do that. Anyway, yeah, I have a feeling the aliens have some crazy [ __ ] But anyway, go ahead. >> No, that's what I This is what I tell people is I think the kids would say it's GG's if that happens because you get encapsulated. They manipulate your local space-time region and now what do we know about Einstein? We know time dilation. Uhoh. So now I've displaced you out of time and now I can change your clock. So now I can make your clock speed up or slow down. I tell people, imagine that you get put into a bubble where you just starve to death in the bubble and then you come out and everybody's looking now you're bones on the ground. Or the opposite, which is imagine they speed your time up. Uh so that or they slow your time down locally so you're stuck in this bubble. You imagine you could see out of the bubble and everything's just basically stopped or everything's just super sped up where now you come out of the bubble and it's a hundred years later. So you just came out of a weapon that you didn't even know and you're it seemed instantaneous to you but now it's a hundred years later because they sped your clock up so fast. I mean this is terrifying. That's worse than being burned to death by in my opinion. But that's the kind of weapons that they could do with this technology, right? >> This time on the order of one divided by frequency. Remember you and I discussed the whole thing using the chain rule and getting one. That constant is really based on epsilon0 / sigma squar s where that's a surface charge density times 105. Does that ring a bell? 10^ the 25 JW per meter cub. But anyway, what I'm trying to say is that using simple mathematics, simple physics, just relational, let's call it Jay Anderson has a has a had a very good name for it, intuitive physics. intuitive physics using intuitive physics. So mathematical physics where the ma the um sorry physical mathematics where the physics drives the mathematics not the other way around. It can create this intuitive physics whereby using small very rudimentary concepts like frequency on the order of one divided by time or something of that nature can result in tremendous ideas, tremendous concepts. You do not need to rely on heavy mathematics to exact this interesting physics. I refuse to call it new physics. There's no such thing. This is a perspective on all physics. That's all. >> Dave Rossi agrees and I agree with both of you. So let's see. Let's I want to ask you about the shringer limit then. >> Yes sir. So um what Jared Yates was saying is that in theory he was saying that maybe superc conductivity can lower the shrinker limit. What do you have to say about that? >> Quite possible. >> Quite possible. >> Remember that of course remember that uh Q factor >> the order of 10 to the 9. That's for superc conductors isn't it? >> So the more it's charged >> we talk about five orders of magnitude higher than regular metals and that's a starting point. You can get higher than that depending on what you how you Anyway. Yeah. >> So you can lower it by five orders of magnitude or more. Is that what you're saying >> theoretically? Of course. >> Amplify it. >> Wow. Well, >> what about >> right in in the case of what you're saying? Correct. So you would actually lower the limit. I mean you would you would use this Q factor gadget let's call it that to affect the Schwinger limit that 10 to the 25 JW per meter cube would still be achieved by the upon energy amplification. >> Yeah. >> Energy stored divided by energy lost. So the more energy you store you store you store. again. Remember the tenderizer thing? You keep on pommeling that piece of meat >> until you pulled a hole in it. >> Yep. >> So that's why So Okay. So the what I'm hearing is that yes, technically you you're kind of lowering the limit, but you're doing so in a way where you're able to store up more and more charge where we eventually are hitting that shrinker limit. We're just doing it in a roundabout way. We're just >> look at energy amplification. Look at resonance effects. Look at equations 7, 8, and 9. equations seven, eight, and nine. You've said it on your podcast already in in the plasma compression fusion device paper, the triple E paper. Yeah. >> So the next question, this is actually one of the criticisms that I heard Jack Sarfat say was, and I think it was Missile Man was also saying this was that, well, if this was true, then nuclear weapons would have hit this Schwinger limit. We should have seen space-time manipulation from nuclear weapons. My view is we probably did. we probably did see or at least the basis for it and then that's how we figured this out. What is your opinion? Or do you think the other view is >> there were a couple of tests that were done >> I forget the uh name of the test but >> where the energy was amplified and they had no idea and then they said something castle bravo then they said something about the lithium tree having >> anyway come into play and >> megaton >> there's a lot of ways to argue what I go with the simplest and most minimalist of observation because usually a razor dictates it all. >> Simplicity and minim minimalism should drive great innovative ideas. The more complex a problem is, the simpler the solution depending on perspective. >> Speaking of which, the next topic is actually a simple solution. Room temperature superconductivity. What's the answer? >> One of them >> hydration is the answer. According to your paper, you can take an insulator, cover it in really any metal, but just take aluminum for example. >> It has to be very thin. So the way you're doing it is not easy. It could be vapor deposition, could be other ways of but again we're talking about microns, >> lithography. >> Look carefully. Look also carefully at the Victor Lakno paper. He has some very interesting ideas in there on the uh how thin the substrate should be and what works and what might not work. >> So then I mean that does that open the men's paper describes the bias effect room temperature superconductor to a tea. He says it so beautifully. I can you need an alternating magnetic field to initiate the formation of the Bose Einstein condensate again at the boundary between the insulator and and the um conductor. Once you initiate that you move it how? With an alternating current. Pulse current. >> Yeah. Pulse current. >> Yeah. But you also though mentioned in your paper sound waves and this now all of a sudden made sense to me when I started realizing well it's just about vibration because if if you just imagine one half of your boundary is an insulator the other half of your boundary is a conductor and now we're vibrating this we're vibrating extremely fast. Now you say we're putting into superp position where now it's like we don't know >> drop phase transitions spontaneous symmetry breaking you're initiating what I would call coherent superp position all of a sudden these two states two very distinct states are put into basically a conundrum what the [ __ ] am I am I an insulator am I conductor and all of a sudden [ __ ] happens >> and so now all of a sudden superconductivity occurs. How do you explain that though? Like why would an insulator that gets put into superp position all of a sudden become superconductive? Right? >> That is my way of seeing this. The mechanism could quite well be explained better or more physically able by the Victor Lakno idea the physical mechanism he describes which is based on bipolar not electron pairing somewhat difference actually quite different. Anyway, go ahead. If you add up all your patents, what is it in your mind? What does it look like? >> The price of it. >> No. Well, I But what is actually what is your device? What is your craft? >> Mark Loot put it best. It's like a bag of chips. You just, you know, take one. You can't have enough. You just keep on until the bag is empty. Hopefully, this bag never runs out. I have a feeling this whole idea of control motion of electrically charged matter and basically in a non-equilibrium plasma state accelerate vibration no accelerates spin what I'm talking about is really engineering the preosian effect remember what it needs it needs a nonlinear medium >> you drive it far from equilibrium while you're always maintaining an electromagnetic energy flux or some sort of energy flux within I mean it doesn't have to be electromagnetic in nature. Remember ultrasound anything higher than 23 kHz right? >> Mhm. >> There are many ways to again there are many roads that lead to Rome but there's only one via >> so um how do you determine if you displace yourself? I I think that the orbs are producing a superconductive shell around the plane around the the local region of the plane and displacing it from space. I'm decoupling it. I mean, that's what you're saying this superc conductivity is able to pull off. How would you determine where you show up though? Like now you've just disappeared and and especially from an Einsteinian perspective, it's just you don't even >> Well, remember that the other three orbs you yourself brought it up. It can be just one. And I believe Dave Rossi and I exchanged uh an email on that and it makes complete sense. You're 100% correct. It has to be three >> because it has to affect this magnetic wormhole. That's what it is really truly that paper that >> you you hit that nail right on the head, man. That's why Professor Professor Dave, it's my birthday and I choose to say what I choose to say. How about you taking a nice teaspoon cuz I be nice and eating out of Ashton's ass until he says, "Okay, you've had enough. Thank you." >> Boom. Gotcha, [ __ ] >> Ah, I'm pretty sure he's a hateful [ __ ] He's got to do something. But anyway, >> okay. I just had to play that. But no, that's hilarious. Thank you for that. >> That's all right. You deserve people don't know that brother, >> you deserve much more than that. >> I'm gonna have to change my name to Ashton. Six orbs probably because there might be three orbs on the other side. >> No, no. You can say the fourth orb is a collective one. >> Yeah, that's I'll just cheat. >> You know, it's made out of three. >> I'll do the >> But it acts as one. >> Exactly. The idea is >> you have three charges on one side. The three orbs are on the plane. They all add up to, let's say, three total units. And then you have an equivalent somewhere else. In fact, in my mind, they're dancing around nothing on somewhere else in some other location. And there's an invisible connection between them. >> And then when the orbs converge, then the same orbs are converging on the other side. And now you see this this symmetry, this entanglement um which turns into a magnetic wormhole. So >> I guess what I'm asking the next thing I wanted to ask about that is do you think that the orbs are spontaneously entangling to one another in both systems like when they get onto the plane? I saw a really cool presentation. >> Everything is connected. Everything is connected. But some are more connected than others. I believe Sean Carroll gave once a very interesting uh presentation on quantum entanglement. What exactly drives it? And um proximity has a lot to do with it. >> Really proximity does. And that's interesting because this idea that when I started digging into wormholes and whether or not retrocausality is real, there's a lot of push back. A lot of people are saying that no, it's not going to be retrocausal. It means there's still signaling happening which would be like it's kind of like saying that we can remove the zero point energy and now go faster than the speed of light but there's always going to be some correction mechanism that will never let you actually go back in time. Like it's never going to let you go back to 1950. And this is interesting because then if that's true, if there is this kind of there's a rules to the game so to speak behind the scenes, it would make sense that like distance the actual physical distance in our spaceime could impact the you know the strength of the signal or the strength of the entanglement. >> Um I don't know does that make any sense to you or what are your thoughts on retrocausality? >> I think it's possible to go back in time. I would love to use this time is on the order of one divided by frequency you know idea that we spoke of to to actually engineer something interesting I have something in mind of course it would be used also for health reasons I mean imagine having the liver of say a 10-year-old you can drink yourself to death every [ __ ] night and just go in that side inside that chamber and come out >> but that's different in my opinion do that you know >> right because that would be changing like that would be putting a bubble around myself or around my liver and then reversing its uh you know process to go back in time. But that's only it locally going back in time. The rest of my body wouldn't be going back in time >> and that's where I kind of draw a line because >> there might be a way to do that as well. >> Oh, okay. You think both are possible? >> Uh you know what, brother? There's something that uh that I'm not sure. I mean, I don't know, but Dr. Pharaoh writes very interesting about this um affidavit by uh ginal de vafan ss I believe uh spo something of the nature some Nazi [ __ ] but anyway he uh gave this idea that the gloa had this ability when run at certain frequencies seems that this thing was able to spin extremely fast. Whatever was inside the >> they claim it's liquid mercury or something like that. >> Red mercury. It's a very interesting uh compound because if true that would be able to initiate the you wouldn't need fishision secondary for fusion. But anyway, I'm not going to go there. Yeah. >> Yeah. And apparently plasma metal. >> Forget I said that now. Dead red mercury. Okay. When spun at very high rates and pulsating with DC current as Dr. Pharaoh says it had this thing of making plants or anything in the vicinity of the object turn to like some black viscous material that was not even just that's whacked. I think that's a temporal effect. >> Yeah. Or maybe think making things grow too, you know, just that would explain a temporal effect as well. I was watching a presentation just the other day where the guy was saying that metal could be argued to be a plasma because of how the electrons can flow so freely. I just thought that was interesting because there's been so many orb sightings where it's like a metal ball and so it's like what if there's like a phase transition where the metal becomes like a metallic liquid plasma >> almost translucent in nature and yet >> and that's actually what it says under the right frequency plasma frequency becomes transparent and under different frequencies it would look metallic >> I mean think about this I still do believe that on the certain frequencies possibly things can actually go through walls. So what is solidity >> when it comes to vibration anyway? >> And that's what I was trying to point out to people the other day is that it's almost like when you're talking about superp position and vibrating your lattice structure to me that's like yeah that's the same mechanism as how I would just go straight through a wall at that point. And the same reason why my hand doesn't go through this is the electrons are repelling it. But if somehow it's been put in a superp position, I would imagine you might be able to make it where my hand just goes right through this. >> I mean something that can induce physical superconductivity say in an active manner not based on material but >> based on say vibration. >> What's there to stop it from actually going through the lattice itself? I mean, this thing is is acting as if the ladder is not even there. One giant matter wave. What's that about? This thing's supposed to be a solid. Or is it? What is the electron? Maybe that is the greatest question of them all. By the way, asked by Einstein, he he once said, you know, instead of [ __ ] bringing another [ __ ] particle to the zoo, how about you find out what the electron is? That's why the man was Einstein only. >> Yeah. Because they were trying to just solve reality, you know, they weren't working off of what does the theory say and then let's do that. They were saying what does reality show us and how do we explain it mathematically? How do we understand it intuitively and it requires a lot of background to understand it. >> Um let's I have some questions that are not necessarily physics related but I think are interesting that either I or other people want to know from you. So, I think we'll run through some of these as we kind of wind down here. >> Um, number one, who is the enemy? >> Anyone that wishes harm upon the United States of America? >> Does that include aliens? I guess I I'm just going to sit. Some people are saying >> anyone that wishes harm upon the United States of America, foreign or domestic. Do you think we're building these weapons to fight aliens? >> They would definitely come in handy. I have a feeling their physics is somewhat different. It's quite possible that uh this could affect their craft. >> It's quite possible that um certain Tesla technologies based weapons. I don't want to go crazy hubris and say pis effect tech, but anyway, you know, something different could affect their craft quite well. For example, this idea of detonating a hydrogen weapon, a thermonuclear device. What was that about? See, >> there are other ways. You don't have to, you know, take out half the world in order to take out to take down a craft. I think again, simplicity and minimalism, the most complex of problems has the simplest of solutions depending on perspective. Remember that. >> Given what you said about maybe we're property, maybe we're slaves, and this idea of why we'd be working on these weapons, h I've heard a narrative. But I want to know if you think there's any credibility to it that if we were to disclose this, if we were to make this information available to everybody that the the aliens would come and zap us or take us out or reset us or something like that. What do you think about that? Is that nonsense? >> I don't know, brother. >> I I'm starting to think even though there's something very special about us, I don't think we present a danger to them. Otherwise, they would have snuffed us out out of existence a long time ago. >> If they truly were, I do not even think they're warlike. >> Maybe some of them are >> now. Indeed, if the Saluran hypothesis is correct and there's a reptilian race out there, I mean, [ __ ] if the [ __ ] would eat you, I don't need an armada by Proxima Santoi of reptilians coming toward me to worry. >> Anyway, >> so yeah, I mean, I'm with you on that. think that I don't believe that the aliens could be hostile because I mean I think that their sense of morality wouldn't even be like our sense of morality. So it's hard to even put it in that perspective. But more I learned about this science like if they care about us it's not going to be for the for the ground or for the air for the water. It's going to be something probably more esoteric related to consciousness would be my guess because >> and quite possibly they have a prime directive. >> Yeah. Prime directive I think is a cool is a I mean if we're property yeah we might just be sheltered right we might be on a display case somewhere without even realizing it. >> I think we have something that protects us something extremely powerful that allow >> people who don't know what prime directive is comes from Star Trek which basically says it's like a non-inference policy or law that says you can't mess with any civilization until they get warp drive which is might be like exactly on the nose. Can you guys imagine if we have warp drive and then the aliens came? Maybe that's what happened with the nukes. I mean, you could argue that we manipulated spaceime with nukes and then the aliens showed up and we're like, "Hey, we're here now. You finally figured out how to manipulate the ether. Uh, we need you to stop doing that like never again. And if you do it ever again, we're just going to zap this planet out of the sky forever." Pretty scary. Um, let's take it back down to Earth here, though, for a second. Oh, actually, no. One more question on aliens. Only one more. >> Okay. >> And it's kind of related to the U to the UFO hearing a little bit. Is do you think that the government is hiding information about aliens? Like maybe that they're in contact with them or that we've got fastline communications in contact with them or that we have offplanet people in any context. >> Doesn't matter, brother. You're the one that says it's all about the [ __ ] technology. All this other [ __ ] can be resolved. We meet them. We shake their hands or whatever the [ __ ] the fin something. We shake something. We salute. We I don't know in part we exchange thoughts. I'm not sure if we've reached that level. I think maybe we had it way way in the past, but we've lost it. >> Who knows how their ways, but it's all about the tech. It's all about the technology. >> Yeah, >> the technology is everything. >> Well, speaking of the technology, what do you think of Space Force moving to Huntsville, Alabama? Rocket City, also to be known as Space Juice City officially. >> I have friends that were still in Colorado Springs and so forth. I can imagine that the real estate value is plummeting. And I mean, from a financial point of view, it can be hectic under one's. But bro, sometimes you got to do what you got to do. >> I mean, Space Force has a tremendous value to the nation. very important very important um branch of the military one day quite possibly because of the nature of space itself being the highest ground the most important branch of the military >> do you think they built that branch do you think Trump made that branch in 2018 I think and it was General Joseph F Dunford is the one he called upon to do it you think they >> General Raymond >> Oh Okay. Well, I was I'm just speaking to uh there was a speech where he brought had Joseph Dunford come up and and say something related to it. But >> do you think they made space force because of this technology? >> You have to remember who uh the president's uh uncle is one of the smartest men. Most likely 100% he was a Jason if the Jasons were created by then. >> Wow. and most likely definitely part of the highest hierarchy of intellectuals. Dr. John Trump. >> Mhm. >> Look, look into I mean, this is no [ __ ] mental [ __ ] This guy is a cerebral giant. He was asked to look at the Tesla papers for a reason. You don't ask Joe Schmo. Maybe Joe the plumber after he reads a lot of physics papers. But you know I I still think Joe Joe the plumber can win a Nobel Prize, brother. >> Wow. >> Kudos to Joe. Yeah. >> Well, speaking about the technology, um do you think that Tic Tac is Loheed Martin technology? >> I don't know, brother, but most likely man-made man-made tech, >> I think. The aliens are far far more advanced. >> Yeah, >> I think we would need I would need to go I would need to reschool in another doctorate and so forth to freaking take me another 20 years to maybe understand a page of that tech something of Oh yeah, I think they're I truly think they engineer the super force at various. Anyway, >> that's the biggest thing for me is that like I think we've been looking at aliens like little children. Imagine Santa Claus. Like, you know, we personify aliens. We imagine that they're on our level, but if they have access to this level of technology and they've been around for any significant period of time longer than we have, then they're going to be just just beyond what we can comprehend. You know, it's almost like we can't even really put our heads in their in their minds, you know? >> Cool. So then the other two questions related to this is that one of the one of the people that I've I don't like to say the word exposed because I respect him a lot uh but revealed is um a Loheed Martin engineer by the name of Charles Chase um and he he actually in his own resume bragged that he was the one that convinced the CXOs of Loheed Martin to build a compact fusion reactor using field reverse configuration. high beta. Pretty much the same thing that Edward Teller was talking about in that paper. Um, is Loheed Martin the one that has this technology? Do you think other defense contractors have it? I mean, I'm pretty sure, >> let me put it this way. >> If I was scientific advisor to the president, I would say, sir, nationalize the [ __ ] out of Lid Martin. You know what they're talking about? That got floated the other day. >> Get the Really? >> That really got floated 100%. >> Well, he has some smart people on his entourage. >> Yeah. Someone said Locky Martin is 97% of the money. >> He has some very smart people. Really got floated. >> [ __ ] >> Yep. I heard I heard the narrative get floated and it blew my mind. >> Another thing that I thought I was an original that >> I mean it kind of goes to entanglement. people I think have the same ideas because we're all connected potentially by the same conscious field and we all we're experiencing the same reality here together. So, you know, I I don't know. I mean, that's just kind of me going on my esoteric front, but I think people should remember Charles Chase, uh, Revolutionary Techn leader of the revolutionary technologies division of the Loheed Martin skunk works. If I'm looking for somebody to know about all this technology, that is the guy. His resume, you know, electromagnet magnetics expert, not technically a PhD, which blew my mind. I but you know his whole life at Loheed Martin worked with Ben Rich. Worked with Ben Rich of Loheed Martin. The guy that says all points in time are connected. >> Um >> the other thing that kind of connects us back together. Do you know what Asteris is? Have you ever heard of that before? >> No. >> Asteris is Loheed Martin's AI. So >> really? How do you spell it? Like asterisk. >> Asterisk. A s r i s. I'll put it in the chat. Asteris >> I actually I'm one of the only people that brought this up. Asteris they came out publicly in 2024 and started offering AI solutions to other defense contractors. >> Oh wow. >> Using this Asteris AI which presumably they had you know behind the the scenes or whatever before that. >> This was when >> just last year 20 2024. >> Okay. >> Yeah. And it offers consulting services on like action plans and things to take which to me is now this is what made me wonder about your triarch or your sentience because I'm wondering like how advanced is this thing if you get if I'm Loheed Martin and I'm feeding this AI scientific papers and all this stuff. This thing's going to get sentient way faster than the AI being fed off of Reddit, you know, and it's going to start being pretty scary. >> Okay, this is where the scaling comes in. Just because you give say even enhanced algorithms or enhanced computational power and you feed it I don't know it it goes off trillions of tokens or you know in case of an LLM based on GPT technologies or generative pre-trained transformers even there's something recurrent memory transformers look into that recurrent memory transformers which could be interesting but anyway So even when you do all that it's the scaling problem it might not result in censient machines you might need look into the work of this man Judea Pearl you might need something called causal inference to bring about this almost ignition of consciousness into what we call a non-physical Well, a physical but nonbiological body even though sometimes wonder what we really are. Anyway, that's a that's for another time. Yeah. >> Yeah. I start to ruffle people's feathers when I say that we might be a biological AI cuz uh I don't want to brooach on people. >> I wonder my brother. I wonder what we truly are. I wonder if we truly are a product of some extremely extremely complex biotechnological genetic engineering but something we don't even understand at this point in time if you believe in the enumish the Sumerian book of creation it is the great Sumerian god and key that at the behest of his son Marduk and Dr. Ferrell knows exactly what I'm alluding to. Um, created the Adamu to act as what? Slave for mining gold >> cuz their own people were kind of pissed off and started a revolution of sorts. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So I I know very little. It's like Anunnaki Samrian stuff, right? The Yeah. >> I don't know, brother. Sometimes I think that myth myth at least has has some truth in reality. >> Sure. >> Look at Hinrich Shlea armed only with a Iliad under his arm >> finds the a possible Troy. >> Let me ask this. This is the last question I want to ask you here. Somebody else brought this up because you know we talk about the dangers of this technology and the capabilities which are absolutely incredible and in your room temperature superconductor paper you mentioned all these different possibilities that we can do. It's very dark honestly the reality of all this. How do we get a happy ending? What do we have to do? >> Complete and total disclosure. You come up to the people. Trust the people. The people are not the people of the 1950s. We have grown up. There have been so many wars, so many fatalities, so many assassinations, so many freaking [ __ ] disgusting acts of inhumity that we have grown up. We have been forced to grow up. I think we're ready. We ready for real disclosure. Trust us. Just if you do this dark [ __ ] this trickle trickle woke disclosure, it will not end well. >> What do you think? >> Do you think that like just the lies and the deceit will end up causing our own destruction? Is that what you're concerned about? >> People will lose faith in those that govern them. M >> that is the cause of all great rebellions. >> I can't agree more on that. That's the thing. And and the weird part is I think that's part of the reason why they're hiding it. Like one of the things I learned from CO is that >> you still have time, man. Come clean. Trust us. >> The government the government >> said it once. >> Yeah. in different words, but he basically said, >> "We're not children, but you treat us as children. Don't >> That would be exactly how I would describe woke disclosure. They treat us like children." And then the problem is they've trapped themselves because now that they've been lying, treating us like children, now they can't tell the truth. Because if they did tell the truth, they're going to lose all credibility. And this is the same thing that happened with CO. If they told the truth about the [ __ ] that they were pushing on us, then no one would trust the government again. But that's the problem. You should have never lied to begin with. There's no way out of that. So, just like Sal said, I'm going to echo it. There's still time to come clean. There's still time to not come clean. If you don't come clean later and this comes out without coming clean, then it's you're going to lose. >> People forgive when they're comfortable and have food on their table. But God forbid there's a calamity or socioeconomic political event that basically destroys the social norms. >> S >> anyway, yes, >> thank you so much for coming on the podcast today. I want to give you a minute to shout out anybody or anything or anything you're working on or whatever you want to do. And I also just want to wish you a happy birthday. Thank you for coming on my show on your birthday. I appreciate that. It's my my great honor to be on your show and thank you for always believing in me and my work. You are one of the few people that truly has always been there for me. You and Dave Rossi, especially you and Dave Rossi have always >> greatest friendship. You are my brothers. You are my brothers and anyone that goes against you, [ __ ] them. Yeah. Thank you very much, sir. I hope you have a great day and I hope you have a happy birthday. >> Thank you very much, sir. Take care and the best to you, brother. Take care. Thank you. Bye.