The Great Wormhole Debate... Sorta.

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Carl Sean could not have predicted 2021, but he did see it coming. He wrote the following back in 1995, and we quote, "I have a foroding of an America in my children's or grandchildren's time. [music] When the United States is a service and information economy. When nearly all the manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries. When awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few and no one representing the public interest [music] can even grasp the issues. When the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably [music] question those in authority. When clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical [music] faculties in decline. Unable to distinguish between what feels good and what's true, we slide almost without noticing back into superstition and darkness. [music] The dumbing down of America is most evident in the slow decay of [music] substantive content and the enormously influential media. The 30-second sound bites now down to 10 seconds or less. [music] lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudocience and [music] superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance. Roll that around for a while. Those [music] were among his final published words. He died 10 months later. Here [music] we are 25 years later realizing just what he was trying to tell us back. >> Well, I can tell you we shared it with America, but I can't share it with you. Okay. the most advanced offensive weapons on the planet. Things that none of the superpowers have developed by Israel, shared with America. >> Ashton Forbes, you know that super jacked guy. >> Malaysian 370 contact 12 decimal 9. Good night. Malaysian. >> Breaking news tonight. A Malaysia Airlines flight with [music] 239 people on board, including four Americans, has [music] gone missing >> even as these grainy satellite images released today by the Chinese [music] government. >> Again, the Malaysian flight was a was one shot at China saying, "Knock it up. >> Why shoot it down though if it's still hostile? [music] Our technologies permit us to manipulate time and space." >> Why didn't you [music] distance annihilate? >> This country is very powerful. far more powerful than people understand. We have weaponry that nobody has any idea [music] what it is and it is the most powerful weapons in the world. Not even close. I remember the [music] line from Hindu scripture [music] is trying to persuade the prince that [music] he should do his duty and to impress him [music] takes on his multi-armed form and he says now I am become death and destroy of worlds. [music] I suppose we all thought that one way or another. Let's go, chat. Airplanes go missing every single day, guys. Thank you guys for being here. Happy Monday. Sorry we didn't do a live stream on Friday, guys. Hopefully you caught the Paramount Tactical interview on Saturday afternoon. It was a really good discussion about the missing general and about some of these technologies that are, I think, slowly being revealed to us. Tonight's show primary focus is going to be on the big debate that was announced. I think it was Friday night. Jesse Michaels said that he got an interview with Eric Weinstein and Eric Davis that they were gonna lay it all out there. So, we are going to talk about that, but I want to give my quick takes, my quick opinions on it before we jump into it. And then we've got some other topics, a little bit of news, and talk a little bit about the missing general because the situation is just getting weird. So, buckle up, guys. Okay, right off the bat, my opinion. Jesse set up the ultimate interview, the dream interview between Eric W. Davis, author of six of the Defense Intelligence reference documents, including the wormholes one, the one about warp drives, extracting energy from the quantum vacuum, etc. between him and Eric Weinstein, Weinstein, however he says his last name. And I expected to have the ultimate throwdown of physics ideas. And I have to say I was disappointed on all fronts. First of all, it's a 4hour video. Ain't nobody got time for four hour videos on anything. Condense that [ __ ] down. Edit it down. Slim the topics down. The first hour was complete horseshit that didn't even need to be included into the discussion. They spent an hour just talking about the idea of government coverups. What are we even doing here? This is a podcast with a guy that helped develop teleportation for the United States government. In addition to that, Eric Weinstein is so insufferable. I could not have lost any more respect for him. We're going to go through it and we're going to play some of the clips, but absolutely completely insufferable. And I came away with the idea that Eric Weinstein thinks that he's going to he's smarter than Einstein and that he's going to be the one that figures out the next general relativity, the next big thing. There's gonna be a lot of criticism of Eric Weinstein in tonight's show. So, if you're a fan of him, I apologize. It's not personal. I just think he's absolute trash and his takes are trash. Eric Davis. Eric Davis. It felt like he wasn't even trying. It's like he's sandbagging the interview. It was so awkward at one point, and I I hope I play the clip for you guys tonight, that Jesse Michaels had to get Eric Davis to defend his own ideas. Eric Weinstein's going, "This is stupid. This is silly. This is nonsense." And Eric Davis is going, "Yeah, it is. It's stupid. It's silly. None of it makes any sense." And then Jesse Michaels has to jump in, but he's going, "But you're saying we can teleport things." And he and then Eric Davis goes, "Well, there's nothing that in the laws of general relativity to say you can't. I don't see any reason why you couldn't teleport something. It's like, if you're not even going to defend your own ideas, what are we even doing here? What are we even doing here? If you're just going to sit there and agree with every stupid [ __ ] take that Eric Weinstein says, what's the point? and Jesse Michaels. At least credit to Jesse Michaels for getting the interview together, but you gotta come in with a better plan than just put the two dudes at the table and see what happens. How about some moderation when when Eric Weinstein's on his third seveninut rant about history that no one gives a [ __ ] about? Maybe we cut him off. Maybe we cut him off and say, "Hey, let's just get to the point. I don't need a seven minute story for you to get to a point that you think general that you think general relativity is incomplete. We can figure that out without the long ass story. Let's just get straight to the questions. So that's my high level. If you can tell guys, I was not too pleased with the discussion. And the main reason why I was upset with the discussion is there was no physics discussion happening. There was actually just no physics discussion. the only physics discussion that even happens in the whole interview is about extended electronamics and in that Eric Weinstein says he doesn't like it and Eric Davis basically says yeah it's stupid doesn't make any sense and then Jesse Michaels is jumping and be like hey you kind of forgot your boss Hal Pudof is like a big proponent of it he goes oh yeah yeah my boss is a big proponent of of EED but it doesn't make it like what are you what are we doing dude When I get these people in the room, I want it to be all physics discussion. I don't need to hear about the alien scops. I don't need to hear about who did which physicist uh was was the smartest, biggest brain one in the 40s during the Manhattan Project. It's just not relevant. Get to the point and get the points out there and get the ideas to be argued. Okay, we're going to come back to this. I don't want to rant too much on it. get my cortisol too spiked at the moment. We have a couple other updates that we need to address before we get to the fun topics. Number one, MH370. Yes, it's in the news again. I actually forgot it was the anniversary yesterday. It was Sunday. I wasn't thinking about it. It was the 12-year anniversary of MH370 yesterday and they put out the Malaysian government finally put out an announcement and said that the most recent search in January was once again fully unsuccessful. The families were upset because nobody was getting any news about the missing plane. There was a search going on. So, I just want to say I told you so. All the people that were telling me they're gonna find the plane. You're going to look so stupid. There was actually people for a couple days saying they did find the plane. This rumor was going around that they found something and they found the plane and they put a drone in the water. People were in my reply saying they found the plane. You're about to look so stupid. Yeah. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. Now you all look stupid. Once again, for the fifth search, five searches now, chat. Five searches in the South Indian Ocean. The most extensive search in human history by far. Never found a single piece of the plane. Not even one [ __ ] piece. Not one. And you say, "Ash, they found some debris." Not the search. The official search found literally nothing ever. Not one piece of the plane. And these are the people telling you that they know where the plane went. These are the people telling you they know where they know where the plane is. It's not even a mystery to them. Have they found anything? Nope. Never found anything in their whole lives. Never had any accomplishments whatsoever. Not even one. Not even the smallest accomplishment. Not even one piece of the plane. And they claim to know exactly where the plane is. And if you think that they're stupid, then you're the what? You're a misinformation artist. Okay, that's all I want to talk about. MH370 for tonight. Well, not really because there are more connections that I think need to be discussed. But before we do that, a quick followup. If you watched last week's live stream, there was a clip that was made about Ross Kolhart. Ross Kohart claims he knows the secret location of the magical portals, but only Ross Kohart knows the secret location of the portals. chat and you don't get to know where that is. He's already played this gimmick once before with the alien spacecraft that was too big to move, but he decided to double down on it. And now predictably, people were calling him out. People were immediately calling him out and going, "Hey man, you went there, but you can't say where it is again. If you just said where it was, then we would all be able to go there and this whole thing would be over." So, here's Ross Colard's followup to the criticism that he's been getting on social media. I haven't even watched this yet, so we'll watch it together for the first time right now. I just knew it was going to be engaging no matter what. >> Yes, there is a portal in the United States. In fact, I suspect there are multiple, but this particular portal is >> Oh, we've upgraded, chat. Chat, we've upgraded. We were at one portal before. Now we're at multiple portals. Now there's a whole portal network that Ross Khard knows about. [ __ ] chat. Two years ago, portals were stupid. Two years ago, if you were talking about wormholes and portals, you were a nut job. Now, now it's News Nation front. It's it's breaking news on NewsNation. Now, in a highly guarded facility that is used under the US Forest Service cover, um there are men with guns who patrol it and there are witnesses who have seen um what are clearly people uh operating with the knowledge of the US military and civilian clothes walking into literally a wall. Um these witnesses are terrified. Let me pause you right there, bro. It's story is already not making sense. You're saying they're obviously military people in civilian clothes that are being witnessed by other people that are walking into wall portals. This is pretty compelling evidence. If any of this were even remotely true, I only have one question. Why did no one just break out their cell phone? Just start recording, bro. If people are walking through walls in their portals or whatever [ __ ] you got going on, uh, just record it. Just record it. Leak it to the world and now we're good. Surprised that hasn't happened yet. They're not about to stick their heads up u on TV, but they are happy to talk to people like me. I've spoken to people who have told me about >> chat. I think I know why they're not willing to go on TV and I don't think it's cuz they're afraid of the government coming after them. I think it's because their videos of their portals or their claims of their portals probably don't stack up to the evidence would be my guess. But go ahead. >> The existence of this portal. I've been to the location. Uh I am aware that it was the subject of extensive study by a team uh that was operating um in the area for some considerable period of time. I'm told that there is technology that is being used to try to deaden the efficacy of the portal to stop things coming out or going through. So now we don't even have control of the portals chat. Now these portals are like the mist. Now we got love crafty and monsters coming out of the portals. And you better be afraid. You better sure be [ __ ] as be afraid. And you better be afraid for your children, too. We got aliens and interdimensional beings and portal monsters. And we can't even control the portals. Can't even control them. Shit's just flying through from every nether dimension you can imagine. Um, I know it all sounds like something out of science fiction, but believe me, the United States knows a hell of a lot more about portals and interdimensional technologies than it cares to admit. Okay. Okay. Okay. Let's just separate the chaff from the wheat real quick. Yes. The United States knows a lot more about portals than they want to admit. They know a lot more about the science of portals as well. That's fine. You're I'm with you there. Now, when you're claiming there's a magical portal system of people walking through walls and [ __ ] like that at secret bases that nobody can see, that you've been to, but you won't say where. That's where you lose me. If you just focus on the United States government knows more about portals, here's a bunch of scientific papers about wormholes, we'd be good. We'd be all Gucci. But you go ahead and you turn the crazy up to 13 for no reason whatsoever. No reason whatsoever to start making these crazy claims that can't be verified. No reason whatsoever. And the other big part about it is this is that when we watch the MH370 videos, we can tell that we are obeying the laws of physics, hard enough as that is to believe. But we also realize this isn't the kind of thing you're just going to spin up on the wall. Those might be a fusion bomb going off on the plane. Those po those orbs spinning around the plane are like a fusion bomb. You're not just going to have a [ __ ] Stargate on your wall that you can just walk through at any time. The whole point of the physics is that there's limitations and rules to it. This is why we don't just speculate about science fiction is we go, "Oh, it turns out if you want to do a portal, it's like a one-way hop. It can't just stay open." Or at least there are major challenges if you want a portal that's staying open because the two sides, their time is not flowing at the same rate. One side of the portal's time can be flowing at a completely different side of the than the other side of the portal. That's a big problem. So, let's let this man finish here. He wasn't done. I I cut him off too quick. And um at some stage, they're going to have to tell the public the truth. Otherwise, it's all going to come rolling out in an absolutely catastrophic way. What more can I say? The portal or portals that I'm aware of. Um, but believe me, it's an extremely sensitive, highly guarded secret military facility. Don't try and access there if you're speculating about where it is. You'll get killed. Um, oh, oh, okay, guys. Sorry. You can't go there. I I know where it is, but you can't go there. If you go there, you'll be killed, but I was there and I'm fine. Also, say, doesn't it seem kind of weird the way he said that? like he almost was like threatening the deep state people. They're going he's saying, "Oh, these people are going to kill me and what have you, but he's going, "This is going to come out. They better tell the truth that this is going to come out." It's almost like he knows what the truth is and he's being like, "Hey, you guys better tell the truth. People are starting to figure it out in the public." Like, that's what that feels like to me for Ross because he probably knows the MH370 videos are real and he's just covering it up for the government. So, it's stuff like that where he's looking at us and he's going he's literally thinking about us and he's going this this these people are figuring it out and we can't cover it up anymore. So, you better start saying something here cuz it's going to start getting really awkward in the next few years. And that's the reality it is. I know where the poor I can't say cuz you'll get killed if you go there. There is a determination by the sections of the national security state that are aware of all of this to keep it quiet, to hide it from you, the general public. I have no idea why they think they can continue to maintain such a degree of secrecy. It's going to blow up in their face, but I'm very sorry. I can't tell you anymore right now. I'm certainly causing mischief. I'm these people like this is just one giant theater kid situation, right? That's what this feels like to me that we've got going on here. It's just it's like the most serious important topic ever. Being treated like it's in middle school by theater kids. That's what it feels like here. Can somebody just say something definitive? Say something verifiable. Say something that we can actually get grounded in reality. Well, maybe President Trump can help us out with that cuz President Trump, he's been talking a lot. And I told people Trump was going to be the person that gave disclosure. He is he loves to talk. He loves to get credit for things. People are saying, "No, he's never going to do it. The deep state won't let him. Trump does whatever the hell he wants, chat." Here you go. Bring out the lasers, chat. Break out the laser beams. And the laser technology that we have now is incredible. It's coming out pretty soon. We're literally lasers will do the work of at a lot less cost. Do the work of what the Patriots are doing or what other things are doing. The situation was very quickly approaching the point of no return and the United States found it intolerable in my opinion based on what Steve and Jared and Pete and others were telling me. Marco so involved and the laser technology. >> So the laser technologies that we have so impressive right now. You say Ashton so what? Lasers aren't magical. Lasers are just normal things, chat. And I say, "Are they though?" Are they though? So guys, first scientific paper of the day. Actually, it may only be one scientific paper of the day. Maybe the scientific paper of the day. Get this knowledge into your membrane right now. You're not going to want to miss it. Are lasers important, chat? Yes. Why? What did we learn last week? Last week we learned nonequilibrium plasma. None equilibrium fusion is this idea that we're not just going to heat up. We're not just going to take this box and heat it up and hope that fusion happens in the middle. No, we're not going to do that. That's stupid. We're going to be smart, big brains, and we're going to shoot laser beams that are already energetic, make them collide or do some magic stuff, whatever. This is where the plasmoid comes into play. We're going to have our laser beams collide, and we're going to produce our cold, nonequilibrium plasma that's already tuned to fusion temperatures. Wow. How are we gonna do that? How are we do that, though? Oh, it turns out we need super powerful lasers. Yes, pulsing the lasers also helps as well. You got it, chat. I am so impressed by you right now. Two years ago, we were all just a bunch of dum dums. We didn't even know what electricity was. Now, people are just screaming in the chat, chirp pulse amplification. Amplify your laser power. We need the lasers. Exact. Let's take a look at this scientific paper we got here. reactor for boron fusion with picoscond ultra high powered laser pulses and ultra high magnetic field trapping. That's my jam chat. That is my jam right there. Why? Because we are going to trap our fusion with our magnetic cusp. Remember the polywell device? Our polywell device has got its rings on it. You trap the electrostatic potential in the middle. That's our magnetic trap. And we're going to shoot the laser beams in there. And we fill it up with boron. And now we got our animronic fusion reactor. It's that simple. That simple. So found a paper by George Miley, the George Miley of fusion, cold fusion, of black projects. Pretty sure this George Miley guy was helping them build the orbs. Pretty sure he was directly involved. Stop chat. Stop cheating chat. I I see you're cheating in the chat comments. You guys are reading ahead and you're and you're ruining the fun for everybody. [snorts] Exactly. But as you can tell, this paper is yatsi McGis all the way to 11. I don't even know what that means. Introduction. In the search for the aim of high energy production by nuclear fusion of light nuclei, an alternative may be available by using laser pulses of picoscond durations and powers in the range above dozens of pedawatts up to terowatts of power. The essential difference to the highly developed laser diffusion by using high huge lasers with nancond pulses for more energy now with achievements of the high foot operation is that non-therrmal forces non-equilibrium non-therrmal or cold non-equilibrium non-therrmal forces of laser pulses are used in combination with the recently achieved ultra high magnetic fields for trapping the plasma. In addition, usees done by the avalanche reaction of fusing light hydrogen with boron 11 with negligible problems of radioactive pollution and direct energy conversion from alpha particles. Chat, what's wrong with me? Have I been cursed? I understood all of those words. It was like reading an alien language that I should not have understood. So, let me break that down. It's basically saying the advent of super powerful lasers in combination with super high magnetic fields. Remember those the the Rebco superconductors? The Rebco superconductors are super powerful magnetic fields from rare earth materials. So he's saying combine your Rebco superconductors with your super powerful lasers and now we can produce non-equilibrium plasmas that are can produce temperatures that can cause a neutronic fusion from proton boron 11. This is a yatsi on every single one. This paper is so close to the orbs that it actually threw me over the edge in thinking that this guy literally just straight up helped build the orbs for them. Let's keep going. gets better. [clears throat] This option was developed in the physics of basically nonlinear processes opened by the interaction of lasers with plasmas nearly from the very beginning of the special turning point of generating the pedawatt lasers by chirped pulse amplification. [laughter] Oh my goodness, chat. He says right there this option opened up because the magnetic fields the material science we needed became available both from the laser aspect where we got chirp pulse amplification won the Nobel Prize in 2017 BTW won the Nobel Prize in 2017 BTW and the magnetic fields. So the ultra high acceleration was calculated since 1978. So, they already knew that lasers were going to be the secret in 1978. Keep this in mind. They knew the material science. Like, they just did the math and they were like, "Oh [ __ ] this is going to be possible once we get to these lasers that are powerful enough. So, they already knew what they had to get to." That's what he's saying right there. Yeah. The public, like as somebody just said, the public is so unaware. That's the most incredible part. We've been researching this for two years and I think back to where I was before and I go, the public wasn't even close to finding this out. Not even close. No one reads this and has any idea what he's talking about. Okay. So, they knew about the halter high acceleration. Oh, yeah. And the direct energy conversion. Also, people just don't know what the words direct energy conversion mean, guys. Direct energy conversion. That right there is alien technology. By the way, as far as I'm concerned, direct energy conversion is alien technology. You have the ability to skip the steam cycle and goes directly to electricity. That's alien tech. Simple as that. Boom. [clears throat] Okay. So, direct energy conversion. And then what else he says? Something about uh mirrors here. Um, scroll down a little bit in building lasers of high powers. Where does he say the thing about the mirror? Oh yeah, right here. So he says right here that listen to this part, new laser architectures based on existing high energy pedawatt technologies for productions of 200 pedawatt laser pulses from a single beam of lines existing in the national ignition facility. Remember John Knuckles is the one who set up the national ignition facility. We know the guy that started the NIF, John Knuckles, famous physicist from or engineer. And he says right here, NIF like lasers, the lasers in the National Ignition Facility can be reduced in size by many orders of magnitude after short laser diode pumped neodymium glass laser amplifiers. This paper is from 2016. Here's George Miley saying that the National Ignition Facility is basically jank. Wood Five League in League of Legends chat. They're saying that and this is why people go, "Why have we not solved fusion?" They have solved fusion. All the material science has been solved for fusion for decades. We just don't have it publicly because it's a national security issue. That's the reason why we don't have it publicly. And then somewhere in here he says something about Yeah, here it is. Plasma mirror techniques can evaluate to what degree the contrast is necessary where it can be explored what initial density profiles of the irradiated targets should be used for optimal conditions of the nonlinear forced driven dialectric explosion. Now, what he's saying right here is that just like that CIA lady was saying, he's saying that we can calculate the uh reaction that's going to happen from fusion and we can tune our laser beam to the perfect possible thing. If we tune our laser beam here perfectly, we can set up the situation where we have the exact reaction that we want to get for our nonlinear uh non-equilibrium plasma to be produced. And then he talks a little about the avalanche reaction which I believe is related to the fact that using proton boron 11 and we already know quite a lot about that. What I did find interesting was this though. Remember when we were talking to Grock the other day and we asked Grock about producing non-equilibrium plasmas, it said that there would be a resonance condition. This is key. You want This is the felony physics right here, guys. This is the [ __ ] that's probably classified. I don't know for a fact, but I assume it is. Grock said, "Not only can you produce these highly efficient autronic fusion reactions, but there's a certain resonance, a certain frequency that causes the cross-section to skyrocket, aka way more fusion to happen." And Grock said it's between 600 and 700 keevs. That's the energy level. between 600 and 700 KVs there's potentially a resonance condition that gets met where suddenly fusion is just going crazy much higher than normal. What does this say right here? This is George Miley again. George Miley says for further confirming the theory of avalanche process the the elastic ion collisions in the broad range of 600 keV's energies will be further evaluated. what he's talking about there when he's talking about the avalanche, he's talking about the chain fusion reaction that occurs. He's like once the fusion reaction happens, you have all this chemical reaction happening. This product gets created, this creates another one, and you have this avalanche occur. And it's saying right here, we want to take a look around the 600K EV range. So, he's saying I did some quick math or just from his experience, and he's saying this range is probably where you're going to find the best reactions, right within where Grock was saying. Okay. Uh, and then this is just a pretty interesting thing. The scheme for designing a an HB11 reactor. Now, I'm not go through all this, but at the very middle, you have your gas, your boron target, and you're shooting it with your lasers here. This is very similar to polywell, very similar to field reverse configuration. The idea that you're shooting your laser into the target in the center, you're going to have your plasmoid get created in the middle of this thing. interesting. And it's uh it's literally a sphere. Literally a plasma sphere here as well. So, I'm very curious to see what this would look like if we saw one of these things operating. And I think some of these plasma fusion companies, like why people wonder, have I been uh ribbing, not really ribbing, I guess, but been uh asking David Kirkley a lot of questions. I think these fusion companies, they're going to have seen these plasmas that look a lot like the plasmas in the MH370 videos. Okay, that was a little more science than I thought, but there you guys go. Now guys, everybody in this live stream, all of you can say I learned science today. Amazing. What a feat. Brag to your friends. Now, next topic, chat. the missing general. We have these lasers. We have this advanced technology and they the question is where does this technology come from? Some people say it comes from aliens. Some people say it comes from ancient civilizations. Some people come say it comes from angels or demons or advanced uh interdimensional beings. Other people say it's all a scop and we invented it. Tesla figured it out. End of the day, I don't really know. I don't really know exactly where it comes from. I lean towards the fact that it's all a big scop. I lean towards that. What I do know is that people know the truth. I spoke with Paramount Tactical Gary Meltton, friend of the show on Saturday about this. There is no way that people don't know the truth of where this technology comes from of the origins or if you go up far enough the number of people becomes less and less and less. Even Eric Weinstein brought this up to Eric Davis. He says the the compartmentalization must be so strict that if you really boil it down, there's only a few number of people that really know the truth. Absolutely. One of those people that would know the truth is the missing major general William McCassland. Now, why can I say that so confidently? Because this guy was the commander of the Air Force Research Labs, guys. Commander of the Air Force Research Labs. I think I had his history up and I lost it, but I'll see if I can snatch it here. And I did a cross reference. I had Grock cross reference the post. Actually, let me I'm skipping ahead here. I'm going to go ahead and go all in on this right now, guys. I believe that one Twitter user, there is a very high probability that they are the missing general. That they are literally the missing general. It seems insane that you could possibly identify the missing general as a Twitter user out of all the anonymous accounts. But I will remind you that I found Edward Sein. I will remind you I found Edward Sein. [clears throat] So I am going to go ahead and post this and you know what? probably gonna end up being wrong at some point, but I think this is compelling enough that we have to go with it because if it's true, if this is true, what I'm about to show you here, it's proof of MH370. This is the reason why we've got to push this. Okay, here's the deal. >> [clears throat] >> Um, there are people that I've been interacting with, mostly anonymously, that are in the know. And usually I can tell pretty quickly when someone's in the know, like for sure. Uh, I don't always know, but I usually can tell. And a couple years ago, I ran across this account called T, wasn't it? T uh TMBB TMB spaceships talking about electrogravidic craft UFO technologies and I could tell right away when I interacted with them that this person knew more like they're talking about electrogravidics all this plasma stuff. I'm going how do you know all this? You're not picking this up off the internet. you have to be involved in some way, shape, or form, at least at a bare minimum, as somebody who's interested in the topics. So, I look at their profile. Their profile says US Air Force, 34year veteran, Air Force Research Labs. Okay. So, I messaged them and I said, "Who are you? Who are you? I mean, and usually if I send you a DM and it's who are you? That means I know you're somebody. I know you're somebody. And the response I got back was, in fact, I'll just read it to you guys now. I'm not going to show my DMs because it'll show my other ones, but I posted it so you guys will know. And he hasn't replied, by the way. So, these are my real I said he says, "I am nobody. I am unimportant. We should not talk yet. You do good work and God bless you, Ashton. This was September 21st, 2024. That was one year after the MH370 investigation began. Okay. So, that was it. So, I followed up and just said, "Well, that's an odd response. I got so much weird crap going on. No one's offering any straight answers. Thank you for the wellw wishes. If you want to know where this is going, I promise you it's going somewhere important. A year goes by, no messages. I never messaged him again. He never messaged me. I noticed his replies in my post. I saw some of his replies talking about Electrovidics. I've monitored his comments pretty closely, actually, and I'm aware of him. And then I get this message on April 28th, 2025. So, this was right after I found out that that one MH370 video was Gorgon Stair. Right after I found out that the one video was Gorgon Stair, this guy suddenly sends me a direct message. And the direct message says this again. April 28th, 2025. I suggest writing a letter to DNI Tulsi Gabbard. Make letter structured first paragraph. Background on disappearance of MH370. Name the DNI owns systems by name. Ask her to task DNIG to research who is doing cover up and where the plane went to. What was the operational objective and why they they kill everybody. Second paragraph, name the DNI systems that were watching the plane at the time. Third paragraph, tell her you have been confidentially asked to write this letter from an individual on her side of the classification system. I cannot speak at this time as that is an operational program and I cannot speak to that. Take care and you will prove the naysayer wrong. A lot of grammatical mistakes. It is obvious to me Ross' words came down from the top indicates opportunity. They are stupid people running the SCOP. You may not get a good response out of this letter at first, but wait. Things are buzzing at the DOE. That was the message that I got. In fact, I'll just pull it up on the screen. So, couple days ago, Friday, the general's been missing for a week, and somebody sends me a message. This is the those are the DMs for you guys. Somebody sends me a message and they say, "Ashton, have you checked this guy's profile? He hasn't posted since the same day that the general disappeared." And I immediately recognized the the profile name. I knew that it was this person. And so I went and I clicked on the profile because I think, guys, there's no way, right? And I look at the profile. Sure enough, the profile pretty much matches the general's description. 34 years in the Air Force. General has 38, but depends on how you count. The general is in all the engineering things that it says on that person's profile. The only thing that didn't match up was the UTOU, which is, I think, University of Texas, Oklahoma University. So, here's the facts. Major General William McCasslin disappears a week ago, Friday. He leaves his cell phone at home. He leaves his glasses at home. No sign of a struggle or forced entry. He's just gone. Basically got no news for a week. We were talking about it, but the news was not even reporting on it. Like they didn't even care to find the guy. The wife comes out. She's not in freaking out. She's not upset that they're not doing anything to find him. They clearly are doing basically nothing. They haven't even had a press conference about his whereabouts. They haven't even had a press conference to give us a timeline for when the last person even saw him. We know basically nothing about the circumstances of this guy disappearing, which is really odd because if you would think that there's a guy that disappeared that people would want to find him and there would be some urgency and they would be trying to get information to the public so that somebody might identify him on the street. But none of that's happening. None of it at all. And then this guy says, "Check out this guy's profile." And so I go click on that profile and I go look at his recent posts and when was the last post? The same day the general disappeared. Over a week ago. Now 10 days ago. So I say, okay, it's like 99.9% chance not going to be him. But at a minimum I can make a post about it and I'll tag him in the post. tag him in the post. I have 300,000 followers. His notifications are going to be blowing up with people saying, "You're the missing general." It's now been 3 days since I made that post and there has been no response from him. He didn't respond to my DM where I asked if he's the missing general. The guy is completely gone off of social media, perfectly coinciding with the general going missing. The reason why I think this that might actually has some possibility of being true is because this general was supposedly feeding information to Tom Delange of the UFO community. And you would ask, how did he get connected to Tom Dange? There's no way Tom Delange found a major general at the Air Force research lab was like, "Hey, you're going to tell me some information now." You know, the general must have found Tom Delange, which means the general was looking for people to give information to that could reveal it publicly. That's his psychological profile based on the Tom Delange info. And if that's the case, it would make sense for him to be following someone like me because I'm doing the same thing Tom Dange is doing. Doing the same thing he's doing. So that's why it's pretty weird because also the way yes there's grammatical mistakes in those DMs, but who knows? He's a boomer on his on his phone typing on his phone. He probably just made mistakes. Probably the autocorrect. Who knows? But the way he typed it almost seemed military to me. Like first paragraph this, second paragraph this, third paragraph this. That's how military people think. Normal people in the commercial sector don't think that way. Plus, that guy was literally in the military. At least the the the TBMS guy, at least he claims to be. So, what I'll say is this. If that guy ends up being the major general, realize what evidence I'm sitting on right there. Chat, let me just break it down for you guys. Are you guys getting the significance of this? I don't think you guys are just for a moment. Assume TMBS, TMB spaceships is the missing major general. I have a DM from a former commander of the Air Force Research Labs telling me to send a letter to the DNI to research the missing airliner MH370 because the oper the system Gorgon stair is still operational and he knows that because he's a Air Force Research Labs [ __ ] commander. Do you get it? If that's the general, we win. Game over. The MA370 videos are automatically real. You think a Air Force Research Lab commander is talking to a dude who was talking about looking at VFX videos? No, bro. No. So, we lose nothing if we're wrong except for a little credibility. But if we're right, this is the craziest [ __ ] story ever. If that's somehow the major general, we've got absolute proof. Why would a major general be sending me DMs about sending a letter to Tulsi Gabbard about this stuff? Oh, because he knew exactly the This is how it played out. He was following me. If this is him, he's following me because he knows the technology is real. He's wondering to see how far I'm going to get with it. And then he finds and sees me figure out Gorgon's stare. He sees me figure out Gorgon's stare and he goes, "Holy [ __ ] this guy found something. He's going to actually be able to do something here." And so he feels compelled to send me that DM and help out. He says, "Here you go. This is what you need to do because he knows how the game is played on the inside." Did I do it? No. I totally forgot. I didn't even I thought that was all [ __ ] I didn't think that guy was legit chat and only I mean I knew he was somebody, right? But I thought he was just a skitso sending me weird [ __ ] So this is the problem that you have is that a lot of people send you stuff like this and you it's hard to sift through the people that are like legit versus the people that are just total weirdos that send you crazy [ __ ] all the time. So take it for what it is. But I have to say, as every day that goes by, it becomes more and more sketchy that that guy's not posted. And look at it like this. We can just wait this out. A, I want the general to be found. I'm very concerned about the general's whereabouts, and I know this guy knows about secret technologies, and I'm a big patriot, so I want this guy to be found safely. If he was picked up, I kind of hope we picked him up. But look at this. If that guy never posts again on his social media and the general is never found, can you imagine? Because we already tied the general to that account. So now if like two more weeks goes by, if a month goes by and that nobody ever posts on that account again and the general just doesn't ever show back up again, that's going to be really compelling evidence that that account was the general. And here's the other thing. We might be able to confirm that's his account. If that's really his account, his wife might know. His wife might have seen him on his phone on Twitter and be like, "Oh, I recognize that. I recognize him on Twitter. In fact, all we probably have to ask to confirm is like, is your husband on have a Twitter account? If he has a Twitter account, that's probably it. That's probably it. So, this is actually not a difficult thing to even confirm. Like, we just need somebody to go ask the wife, does your husband have social media? Is this his social media? If it is, game over. If it is, game over. This guy's been leaking anti-gravity secrets on social media for the last two years. He made his account in 2023. In fact, that might be the reason why he got picked up. If he disappeared and he got picked up by our government, that social media account's probably why. In fact, if that was the case, I'm surprised it's still up. If his account suddenly gets deleted or goes away, by the way, you guys better archive his posts. You guys better archive his posts. If that account suddenly disappears, we'll know. Well, no, he was that was the general. Okay, so that's all I wanted to talk about on that front, but check it out, guys. I'll give you the full name of his uh profile and I'll pull it up here for you. Um, TMBB spaceships. Here it is. Electric propulsive spacecraft and spacecraft systems manufacturing experience 38 years active duty air force PhD engineer AIT AETC these acronyms right here these really narrow it down like this is exactly what William McCasslin's background was. So like unless there's somebody else who spent 30 years in the Air Force that didn't somehow rank up to general. This really narrows it down guys. It's pretty weird. So, we'll see. There he is, guys. Check him out. And here's his last post. February 27th, the exact same day the general disappeared. Local small generate small local field high voltage gap geometrically placed allow sustained dwell time in gap. Wow. Weird chat. Honestly, honestly, guys, if this ends up being real, this is so crazy that if this ends up being real, that might be another Pulitzer Prize. That might be another Purprise, guys. Can you like Can you imagine finding the Missing General's social media account? Like, that's a needle in a hay stack. I wasn't even thinking about something like that being possible. Imagine that's really his account. [ __ ] I mean, if that's his account, this is the biggest UFO news ever. It's the biggest UFO news ever because this guy's been on social. It's not even not even just my DM. This guy's been on social media posting about anti-gravity [ __ ] for two years straight. Read some of his posts. In fact, I'll pull one of them up. I tagged one of them just to read to you guys. I mean, you can just tell this dude's like in the know. One of these is talking about trying to in 2015, Digi Key reported me to the FBI for ordering two large Hamamatsu daylight photo multiplier tubes for his homebrew US Air Force experiment. Here's a different one for you. This is just some examples of this guy's weird posts. Uh says stuff about Nazi models and the uh foo fighters. And here, oh look at this. There are two fu fu fighters on a cutaway trainer display in a military facility near Sandia Mountain chat. Major General William McCassen lived in Sandia. It's like pretty weird, man. The general lived in Sandia. Here he is posting about it. So, this isn't a direct confirmation, but I had Gro go and check all of his posts for any cross referencing data to the general, and it came back with this as one of the examples. So, pretty damn weird, man. I hope they find him, guys. Okay, let's get to the major topic for tonight. [clears throat] the great wormhole debate between Eric Davis and uh Eric Weinstein. Now, right off the bat, the first 50 minutes of this thing, they're arguing over whether or not physicists are involved in the secret project. I can't believe we got to spend 50 minutes talking about this [ __ ] So, let's break it down. I'm going to break down all of Eric Eric Weinstein's points and some of Eric Davis's points here tonight. Number one, he says, "Why are there not physicists involved in the secret UFO program? It's all engineers. Why are there no physicists involved? This is why he doesn't believe it. Because the Manhattan Project had physicists and we can't do anything unless we have the physicist theory." Okay, let's solve this one for Eric Weinstein right off the bat. First of all, wrong. First of all, no one gives a [ __ ] what your physicist theory says is possible. This has got to be the most closed-minded, narcissistic, egotistical take possible. This idea that we need the blessed physicists to come in and tell us we're allowed to do this, that the physics will allow us to do this. And I can already hear Eric Weinstein. I know he's not going to watch this, but I can already hear him saying to go, "No, no, no, no. It's not that we even if we don't necessarily need to explain in in order to produce it, we need to be able to explain the theory so that we can teach people how it works." Wrong again, Eric Weinstein. You're a complete [ __ ] A, no, we don't need to understand how it works. And B, we definitely don't need to explain it to the public. I can't even imagine like this is the reason why we don't have disclosure because the physicists of this world are idiots of the highest possible magnitude. Eric Weinstein actually now is right behind Neil Degrasse Tyson for me because the answer is this. This is what really played out. If we just assume the UFO narrative we're being sold is true. We didn't figure it out. We saw it. We saw let's say teleportation happen. We saw it and we didn't think hey we need to develop some physics to explain that. No, we thought how the hell did we do that and let's try to make that for ourselves. And were people sitting around going hey guys we got to create a full theory of everything before we start trying things out? No. Nobody said that. And anybody that wanted to say that, you just got shown the door. Bye. They just built it. They just figured out how it worked. The idea of spreading scientific knowledge, that's a cultural shift. That's a mindset shift. The defense contractors aren't responsible for that. They're not responsible for teaching the world how physics works. Nor do they care or even want to even begin to argue with your stupid ass about it. That's the reality. And here's the best part. When they figure it out, they have no incentive whatsoever to tell you about it. Not only are they secretly going to figure it out, they also are not going to tell you and they're definitely not going to argue with it you about it over whether or not it's real or not. In fact, they kind of prefer that you don't think it's real. That's how this game is played. So, let's get into the first clip. First thing, shout out to Jesse Michaels because even though I thought he did a pretty abysmal job of moderating the debate, he still is putting out probably the best UFO content out there. It's pretty at least pretty highly up there. He's getting the interviews with the major players. He's got the connections to get the interviews done. We just need to improve the quality a little bit. U [clears throat] also, I'm not petty anyway. So, you know, shout out to anybody whose content that I, uh, you know, show on my show. So, here we go. Uh, we're going to skip ahead a little bit and just go straight to the physics stuff. This thing about evidence I had to jump into here. Experimental results and evidence. Okay, Eric. Also, by the way, I didn't check to see the actual numbers, guys, but I'm pretty sure Eric Weinstein spoke for like 80% of the time. I'm pretty sure Eric Davis only said like five minutes of words throughout the whole two and a half hours that he's on this podcast. We'll see. Oops. Where's my thing? In general, I can produce too many explanations through a creative, sometimes undisiplined mind for a certain set of facts. And this is one of the only times and perhaps the only time I've ever seen a situation where I cannot come up with a single theory of what's going on that explains all of the bizarre behavior in UFO UAP land. too many people who seem relatively reasonable with nearly idetic memories talking about particular names, dates. It is impossible to me that we have a theater company that has figured out how to create this space opera. And on the other hand, the lack of anything tangible. Um I don't believe in something this this old, this long, this many events that we have absolutely nothing uh to go on. So, let me just say it from the beginning that this is the odd situation. One of the reasons nobody from my world wants to get involved with it is that um it just makes you look foolish from the point of view of a scientist because everything >> involved unless they're working on a contract. >> Well, so here you go right [clears throat] off the bat. >> He says he can't make any sense of the story being told here. Really? This is actually the weirdest take from Eric Weinstein that I can get because he's the one going on all the podcasts saying the UFOs are connected to nuclear weapons which are connected to Epstein which is connected to gravity. Bro, all the puzzle pieces are right there. There's only so many ways they fit together. What do you mean you can't make a comprehensive story? That's the easiest part of the whole thing. The hardest part is wrapping your brain around how they covered it up. What do you mean you can't figure out the comprehensive story? Uh, we figured out nukes manipulate spaceime. There you go. Here you go. Clip it. Eric Weinstein, idiot [ __ ] who can't figure out basic reasoning. Uh, nukes are manipulating spaceime. Does it click yet? Does it all just click together all of a sudden? It's really that. Yes, it is that simple. Nukes manipulate spaceime, hence space-time manipulation, hence gravity manipulation, hence general relativity wasn't actually wrong after all. In fact, we're going to go to the next clip, but it turns out it's not that general relativity is wrong. No, no, no, no. General relativity is right. That's the secret. Eric Weinstein in his head believes that you cannot take one step forward without throwing out general relativity. He says we have to have a completely new physical understanding of reality to do the alien physics to do the alien technologies. This is his problem. It's not. General relativity isn't wrong. And when we look at general relativity, we say warp drives are possible. Wormholes are possible. And Eric Weinstein goes, "Those things aren't real. Therefore, general relativity has to be wrong." Well, he's a [ __ ] idiot. I'm sorry, but he is. You're a [ __ ] idiot, Eric Weinstein. Somebody needs to say it to you. You need to be humbled a little bit because you're not even half as intelligent as you think you are. Not even half. literally the epitome of a midwit. General relativity is right. Warp drives are real. Wormholes are real. That's the secret. That's what they're Can you imagine? Would you cover up wormhole technology? Of course you would. It's infinitely more powerful than a nuclear weapon. Does the story make sense yet? Why Epstein was trying to get involved in nuclear weapons engineers at Los Alamos and setting up his institute in Santa Fe Institute at Zoro Ranch. Does it make sense yet? How am I not there debating this guy? Eric Weinstein won't last five minutes in a debate with me. It's not even five minutes, Chad. And I'm not even exaggerating because we're going to have a physics debate when I do a debate. There's not going to be [ __ ] [ __ ] about five minute diet tribes about which uh nuclear physicist got with the most girls or whatever the [ __ ] stories you want to tell. We're going straight into what is dark matter? What is dark energy? Where did all the mass and energy in the universe come from? Is it only possible to violate conservation laws in the first time with the big bang only that one time? These are physics questions, ones that make you think conceptually that don't just go, "Oh, well, I don't like the math here, so this doesn't make sense." I'm ranting too much, but let's go back to the clips. I actually didn't hear what Eric Davis said in response to this, so let's let's listen to this. >> How did they get a clearance? >> Sky is a big place, and >> I disagree. you said that you've >> one of the top government scientists I can't think of his name you would know who it is uh gosh he was a physicist and I just how put off knew him and um he had all he had a lot of clearances in the Manhattan project the post Manhattan project uh a lot of other high technology projects throughout areas of the DoD um uh and and so he was a academician and he had clearances a colleague of mine up at Baylor also has uh deal >> so what he's saying here and this is the obvious Aron argument. Basically, what uh what Eric Weinstein was saying is that his colleagues don't want to get involved with this because they think it's all silly and they think it's all nonsense. Well, here you go. Every single one of those colleagues, yes, every single one of your colleagues, Weinstein, is a [ __ ] idiot. And you say, Ashton, why are you being so mean to me? My colleagues are intelligent PhDs that are respected people in the community. I don't give a [ __ ] who they are. They're [ __ ] retards as far as I'm concerned. All of you need to be taken down about 10 pegs. You've grown way too big for your britches and you're not half as intelligent as you think you are. And you need to come down to reality with the rest of us. Eric Davis is telling you the reality. And the reality is this. None of you are smart enough to be in any black project ever. And that's why you were never hired. That's the hard truth. The reason why you're academic physicists is because you weren't smart enough to make it in the big leagues. So, you should stop pretending opining about how they need you to tell them the truth. No, you need them to explain to you how physics works because you don't understand it. Again, that's the hard truth. That's what I do. >> [clears throat] >> Okay. Actually, this is coming up like right here. This I This is a clip. I can't remember where classifications classifications and he's working on classified stuff that you're not familiar with. You've never heard of. You won't get access to it. If you have a contract >> that requires a clearance, you will get access to something you don't know about. And >> okay, I understand that there's a lot of stuff that's classified. We have an entire system of national labs. There's no question. I'm talking I'm talking about like at the level of ground truth, right? Our our two primary theories are the standard model and general relativity. Both of them are relevant here as Okay. Okay. So, here we go. Already we're just This is why I have no respect for Eric Weinstein. None. The ground truth. What the [ __ ] does that mean? The ground truth of general relativity. Dude, just speak English, man. Just speak English. Stop speaking in riddles and [ __ ] The there's no ground truth for general relativity. The truth of general relativity is wormholes are mathematical solutions to it. Hey, you're a mathematician, right? Maybe you can understand what that what does it mean when something's a mathematical solution. Oh, that means when you take the math, they're proven to be real because the math is proven to be real. This is what Eric Weinstein hates the most. The facts aren't on his side. The facts show that wormholes are real in general relativity. And he hates that. Hates it. Limitations on what we can understand of the world we see. And if somebody has access to theories beyond those two uh and they predicate manufacturing on it and then we get the gifts of that manufacturing just assuming that that story is correct. Um we should be seeing some very weird stuff that is not explicable as if Newton was looking at Lorent contraction. You would say what the heck is that? And >> I love this part because yeah we should see Hey chat we should see some weird stuff that we can't explain if this physics was real. Can you think of any weird stuff that we might have seen that we can't explain if this physics was real? Like Lorent contraction? Oh, did I just watch a [ __ ] airplane teleport out of the sky? Oh, yeah, I did. Oh, look. This is a cl literally classified footage. We're literally staring at classified footage, which I love, by the way, watching an airplane get teleported out of the sky. Hey guys, um, quick I'm going to raise my hand here. I think we might have missed something in physics. I have an anky ankling suspicion that we might have missed something in physics. Why? Well, cuz I'm watching an airplane get teleported out of the sky. It was there one second and then it's not there the next. So, yeah. And this is where Eric says, "We have no evidence." Um, you have no evidence. You have no evidence cuz you're an idiot. You have no evidence because you can't tell when you're looking at a military video. That's why you have no evidence. I have plenty. This is all the evidence I'm going to ever need in my whole life for teleportation. And this is what's crazy to me. The people that claim, they only claim to want evidence. They'll say, "Show me the evol. Eric Weinstein does this. They say, "We need the evidence. There's no evidence out there." And then you show them the evidence and their very first reaction is that's fake. Buddy, I just showed you the [ __ ] evidence and your answer is it's fake. Okay, if you're going to be a complete [ __ ] just just get off this earth and let the rest of the normal smart humans be here cuz we just don't have enough resources to go around for every idiot. We really don't. [snorts] And that's how it plays out every single time. And this is why people say, "Ash, why don't you just build something? Why don't you just show people? Because when you show people, the very first thing they do is they say, "That's fake." That's the very first thing they do every single time. None of them are interested in evidence. None of them are. [snorts] What they're interested in is feeling smart. What they're interested in is feeling like they're better than everybody else and they know all the answers. That's what they're interested in. They're not interested in solving things. They're not interested in evidence. And that's what Eric Weinstein does this entire debate. the whole time he does this. I thought it was just like a Terren Howard thing that he was trying to talk down to Terren Howard. It's not. This guy has only one attitude and it's being a narcissistic, condescending douchebag that's not even nearly as smart as he thinks. Um, so I'm just going to begin with things that make me hugely uncomfortable. And again, it's not as a a digger. It's like I just can't figure this out. So we toss off these humanoid aliens like aliens that are tetropods literally tetropod body body plans and we have arachnids we have insects we have sephopods we have all sorts of intelligent life that doesn't follow a tetropod body plan >> the odd of a humanoid evolving through convergent evolution somewhere else >> okay I'm just >> I learned something from that it's sort of like national security physics >> okay here we go this is the part >> national security physics >> yeah that's not like a Okay, so [clears throat] Eric, so forget the alien [ __ ] I don't know. We were just talking about general relativity and suddenly instead of talking about physics, which we were close, we're talking about aliens for no reason whatsoever. And now finally, this was something I wanted to be addressed. Eric Weinstein talks about Eric Davis's papers. He says, "I read through your papers and it looks like national security physics to me." Yeah, there you go. You got one right. It's national security physics. Hey, there you give give the gold star to Eric Weinstein. Yes, it's national security physics. The stuff that's being discussed literally those papers were classified. Those durs were classified and they got declassified like 2017. But then he completely screws it up. Here we go. >> But if I look at a lot of your papers, they're focused on bizarre, how would I put it? bizarre physics that accepts the standard model in general relativity as ground truth predicated on some sort of engineering desire. >> No, I'm just looking at uh for my per my book uh I was looking at the physics of what's possible with anti-gravity, gravitational wave propulsion or rockets >> within what? Within what framework? >> Say good. Okay. Okay. Okay. Chat, my BS meter is going crazy here. Eric Dave's like, "I was just doing this for my book." What are you talking about? No, you weren't. No, you weren't. You're being paid by the government to write these papers. Chat, can you guys still hear me? Oh, we're back. Okay. This is like the worst debate ever here. You've got Eric Davis not even trying to debate being like this isn't even that important. I was just writing these durs for my book. Like what are we talking about here? And then you've got Eric Weinstein not able to understand anything. Not able to under He's doing the lib meme right now of you can't argue with him because he's intentionally trying not to understand anything. Absolutely incredible. >> Yeah. So GR with or without positivity constraints or how are you >> how are you? Um >> Okay. Okay. Okay. He's about to screw it up right here. So, I need to stop it right here. So, this we were so close to a physics discussion. Did you see how close we were right here? He's saying, "Okay, so your papers, he's saying you're taking general relativity as your base and you're writing these papers to explain wormholes, alien physics, etc." And he's saying, "Okay, so is it general relativity without the positivity constraints?" Chat, there's no [ __ ] positivity constraints in general relativity. So, like, does he even understand physics here? I'm a random dude off the street in healthcare. It negative energy is built in built in to the equations. We just don't accept it. We just don't accept it. That doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You get that? I don't I feel like he doesn't quite understand that. So, we were so close. He says and so here he's going he's actually presenting a theoretical conceptual framework here. He's saying you're taking general relativity and you're saying we can do negative energy. That's what he's saying, right? And we say yes, negative energy is a real thing. That's how we're making wormholes. It's just a pressure force. So I would have loved if the discussion if that's what happened next. Let's see what happens next. >> Let's slow it down. First of all, I don't understand if these things are here from out of town. If they're not co-resident with us here on Earth, they're not here using the standard model in general relativity. I don't think I mean it's not impossible, but but I'm not doing UFO physics. What? Okay, we were actually about to talk about physics. And instead of talking about physics where Eric Weinstein was going to get destroyed and talking about negative energy and what negative energy is, he immediately changes the topic and he goes, "Okay, instead of this, the aliens must be using alien physics. If if we even believe that aliens exist, they have to be using secret alien physics and we have to throw away general relativity." Dude, what is wrong with you, man? I can't get a beat on this guy if he's just a [ __ ] or if he's a scop. This is the same guy claiming that there's a secret cover up related to gravity. I guess in his mind he thinks that there's like a completely different kind of physics out there that completely explains everything we already understand and that it's being hidden in a vault somewhere and that those people understand that secret physics. I don't even get what his mindset is. I'll say it again. We don't need to throw out relativity. Somebody put it in the chat. Er equals EPR. The reason why I'm saying that, do you guys know what the E stands for? Spoiler alert, chat. The E in both of these both stands for Einstein. Both stands for Einstein. And this is going to be relevant because Eric does bring up Eric Weinstein does bring up a good point here in a minute. But I did want to address this part because it's obvious to me if we're trying to understand their arguments, their mindsets of these debates, it's clear that Eric Weinstein thinks that we have to throw out general relativity if we're going to do any of this research, which of course if you think that then you're of course not going to be interested because it's stupid. It's stupid to think that we're going to throw out general relativity. The answer, as Dave Rossi famously said, shout out to Dave Rossi. He's probably out there somewhere. It's a new perspective on old physics. It's not that we have to throw out general relativity. Ferris Williams didn't throw out general relativity. Ferris Williams added an extra dimension. We get everything we have now. We get a little bit more, too. That's the secret to the hidden physics. It's not that we have to throw everything out and find new secret alien physics. No, the secret was the physics was right in front of us the whole time. So to drive this point home, I want to make another point. Did you guys know that general relativity was vastly unpopular? people hated general relativity. It wasn't until, I believe, the 70s where general relativity started to be accepted. Do you know why they hated general relativity? Cuz it makes no damn sense at all. Time dilation. Time dilation does not make any sense in our normal reality. Can you imagine two twins standing next to each other and one of them is aging at a different rate? You would say that's magic. You would say that's breaking the laws of physics. But that is 100% real. And that's only possible because of general relativity. I've said it many times, but general relativity is the thing that breaks physics. General relativity doesn't make physics normal. General relativity makes physics weird as [ __ ] The only reason why warp drives and wormholes are possible is because of that reality in general relativity because everything is relative to everything else. If you really simplify it, the problem is the speed of light is always the same in every reference frame. But the problem is if I'm moving at a high rate of speed, how can the speed of light still be the same? It shouldn't be able to be the same anymore, but it is. That's the trick. So, general, and this is where I'm saying, like, just put me in front of Eric Weinstein. I can argue this in front of a person on a podcast. I'm doing it live right now. And yet, Eric Davis doesn't even push back on this. These are the physics ideas that need to be getting debated. I'm doing propulsion physics for interstellar flight. This I'm not looking at this from a UFO perspective. I'm doing this as part of another. >> So maybe you can make this so wormholes, things like that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I'm not doing this because of UFOs. I'm just saying, hey, >> if this is valid to any degree and we could expect maybe or pray maybe that in the future we can engineer these things. This could be how UFOs move because we're trying to develop this physics for exploitation as a technology for future interstellar and interstellar missions. >> So this is hugely important for me just to understand the context. If I understand, and please correct me if I'm wrong because I don't want to push. >> You know what's crazy? I've got this plane in in 1.25 and it sounds normal. These guys speak so slowly. Eric Davis is downplaying everything he's doing. This I haven't seen a person tow the line this hard for a while. He's like, "I'm not even studying UFOs. I'm just doing uh, you know, wormhole research for no reason whatsoever. The Air Force Research Labs just wanted a teleportation physics study. Doesn't have anything to do with UFOs. Bro, the [snorts] problem with Eric Davis, he's just not a good liar and he's not really good at deflecting the questions because it comes off so weirdly dishonest, especially when this guy is so passionate about this. It reminds me of the Rick and Morty episode, the heist episode. At the end of the episode, Morty is pitching his show to Netflix, and in the middle of it, he loses all his enthusiasm. The guy's like, "It's like somebody just stole enthusiasm for his own idea." That's what I think about the whole time when I'm watching this debate. I'm like, Eric Weinstein stealing the enthusiasm for Eric Davis's own idea in this debate. It's crazy. Okay, let's skip ahead a little bit, guys. We're going to run out of time. Okay. Um Okay, so he brings up Robert forward, I think, here. Bob Forward at was still at the Hughes Research Labs in Malibu. He's the one that motivated me to ask that question >> because he had been >> Let me skip back a minute here >> and >> and you and I talked about that years past. I've read the documents or the websites you sent to me and I'm already familiar with elements of that. Okay. That old newspaper clip. >> All right. So, we we've got 18 talent. We've got Sheldon Glashia, Rudolfph Coleman, Solomon Lechettz, uh Deser Arnowit Dyson. This this begins to feel like, you know, the boys are back in town. >> Yeah. This is physics firepower. Yeah, right. And then the trail just seems to go cold and the >> So, and then this like I just skipped through like 10 minutes of the history here, but basically Eric Weinstein goes through the history. is like, "Oh, so we were working on this anti-gravity stuff and then it just goes cold in the 70s and 80s." And Bob Forward asked the question, where did this like all these things in the 60s and 70s was all about the future, the anti-gravity, we're going to have spaceships flying around and it all disappeared. And so here you go. Eric Davis shouts out Bob Forward. I'm gonna let me play this clip of Bob Forward for you guys real quick. Ready for this? This is one of my favorite B clips. >> Have the ability to cruise over vast distances powered by the sun. No propellers, no roaring engines. Incredible, graceful flights made possible by one of the future's most promising power systems, ion propulsion. Author and scientist Bob Forward is an expert on the future of transport. Ion propulsion is where you take atoms and uh put a charge on them and then use that charge to throw the atoms using electric fields out the rear of the vehicle. >> Not convinced? Take a look at the ionocraft invented by Alexander D. Severki. A huge electric field charges up the air, ripping it into positive and negative ions, making the craft rise and fall on a mysterious electric wind. In Brian Mott's airship, charged air will rush through the hollow core and over the sides, pushing it forward as quiet as a whisper. >> So there you go. There he is. That was Robert Forward explaining MHD craft like in the 80s or 90s or something like that. Interestingly enough, at one point in this interview, Eric Weinstein says that the Biffield Brown effect has been debunked, which is hilarious because you see that you just saw Robert Forward talking about it using electric positive and negative charge for propulsion right there. And of course, it's possible. We we do it with fusion reactors. That's what a neutron fusion is doing. We're literally using the alpha particles from our fusion reactor for thrust for propulsion >> beginning of the 1970s. >> Correct. So, >> and I could never reconcile that. I noticed that back in graduate school during the 80s and I went to an APS meeting. That's the American Physical Society. So, I went to APS meeting with my dissertation supervisor and I ran into they had like a booth for the APS, you know, all the books they sell. uh the the the Physics Today magazine. Well, that was published by somebody else actually, but uh they have all that for members for membership services and benefits. And uh so they've got this advertising booth in the commercial exhibit part of the uh conference and they had the APS historian. And I brought that up with the historian like what 1984 and Bob Forward at uh was still at the Hughes Research Labs in Malibu. He's the one that motivated me to ask that question because he had been looking at anti-gravity when he was at Hughes and this is before he >> The reason why I thought this was interesting, we've found these guys. These are the guys. There isn't another group of secret people. There may be some that we don't know about. Absolutely. For sure. Probably a lot that we don't know about. But Bob Forward was clearly looking at this UFO technology and he was not speculating. People are like, "These guys are just posting theoretical papers. They didn't just make these papers out of nowhere, guys. These papers came from something came from an idea. Came from something that somebody saw that said this might be possible. How do we explain how this works? And Eric D Eric Weinstein one of his big criticisms here he's going to say in a second is he's going to say why are you using general relativity to explain alien physics? And Eric Davis has a perfect response. He says that's all I've got. That's the only tool I have. What what do you expect him to use? You expect him to use some guy's blog unification theory to do the physics? Is is is is Eric Davis going to be taken seriously when he writes his teleportation physics study from some dude's blog based on how he thinks physics works? No. Of course you use general relativity to try to explain how the aliens are flying around because they're using the same physics we are and we know our physics is incomplete. It doesn't mean it's wrong. It's just incomplete. Which means if the aliens are doing something that we don't understand, it probably closes the gaps in our understanding of general relativity. So using general relativity to try to explain these concepts is absolutely the correct thing to do. And it feels like Eric Weinstein doesn't want to have them use general relativity simply because he does not like it. If if Eric Weinstein can explain how aliens fly around using what is this [ __ ] called? Geometric theory or whatever it is, go for it, bro. Happy to listen anytime you want. Let's skip ahead a little bit. I'm going to go to uh 1 minute and 24. Uh oh, he actually talks about this coordinate system. Where was that? I might have to dig around for this. I'm going to I'm going to play this. ord and that group started publishing their papers on semiclassical quantum gravity. >> Well, but my my point is the physicists do not know their own history just the way most academicians believe that peer review goes back to the founding of the Royal Society and it's very clear that it comes from about 1965 to 1975. Okay. >> Um so what we've done is we've erased institutional memory of the physicist's origin story from the physics community. And the this issue of quantum gravity looks like a [ __ ] blocking. Leonard Suskin, one of the fathers of modern string theory, was on a show of a >> sister podcast, Kurt Jungle's theories of everything. >> I or maybe it was with Lawrence Crass and he says we have to go back to the beginning. We have to question absolutely we got this wrong. If we don't go back to the foundations, I'm just thinking like finally it's breaking. He says the foundations and he says of string. >> That's very interesting. Very very telling. Aristotle Phillips is the guy who is at the center of that. There's another guy named Howard Morland. So, I'm [snorts] looking for the spot. It's coming up here in a minute and we'll find it. Um, Eric Weinstein is going to ask how general relativity can explain how where a wormhole goes, which is very interesting. But this actually was a good story. It's a short one. The best ones are the shortest ones. Eric Weinstein explains that a guy was able to figure out how nuclear weapons work. Listen to this. >> Who worked for the progressive magazine and he had the assignment see if you can figure out with no knowledge of physics the teller ulam design for the hydrogen bomb. And he did it and he did it because all of the um information had been sharted and discarded and declassified. He basically put the pieces of the broken coffee cup back together by being meticulous. So, it was a an archaeology and reassembly. It was a reverse engineering program from the from the shredder of theoretical physics. >> Yeah, I agree with that. That sounds like it. >> Okay. Well, that that violates restricted data, which is this bizarre doctrine that comes from the 5050. >> Okay. Dude, this guy is so slow, man. I People are saying in the chat like, "How do you get through this?" These boomers, man. I don't know how boomers do discussions like this. I can't just sit there. It's just so boring. But basically, some guy was able to figure out the hydrogen bomb because all the data is public and the government went after him or thought about going after him, but they couldn't. The government could not go after him because all the information he used to figure out how nukes work was public information. And this now led to a situation where there is a blurry line between what a nuclear secret is because the secrets for how nuclear weapons work is all in the public. And this is the craziest. How's Eric Weinstein not put this together yet? You're going, "Hey man, they're just straight up telling you that the secrets are in the open and you still can't find them. Everybody's figured out gravity manipulation except for Eric Weinstein." Apparently, he's still sitt out here going, "I can't see how this all makes any sense fitting together anymore. Everybody else has got it figured out. random dudes are able to figure out how nuclear weapons are working with no information because all this science is public. You just have to start realizing that it's real. And there's a clip up here coming up. In fact, I'm going to play the clip right now that this one triggered. This is when I turned off the interview, by the way. Here you go. Not one of these proposals excites me. They're boring as sin. I'm sorry to say it. You're talking about people raised on sci-fi who want to be scientific. And by wanting to be scientific, they don't want to go beyond the two frontier theories that we have. And they've also said, "I don't want to be uncreative." So the idea is how do we come up with a wildly implausible story based on stuff that is solid? And at least with some of the other crazy stuff, I have a feeling at least they're trying to do new physics so that the implausibility goes down, but the speculative nature of the physics goes up. I think it would be much better to balance those two. >> I mean, that right there is it. That's That's the clip right there. Eric Weinstein thinks this is all boring to him. To Eric Weinstein, invisibility, warp drives, wormholes, all the stuff that general relativity becomes becomes possible. He does. He thinks it's boring. He thinks it's garbage. He thinks it's nonsense. I I can't even imagine the hubris. How can anyone even call themsel a physicist if you're not willing to dream? Even if it was fake, even if it was fake, you should still be interested in dreaming about the possibilities. The irony of this clip is Eric Weinstein is describing himself. He's the one that desperately wants to be considered an intellectual, that desperately wants to be considered a scientist, even though he's not a physicist, not an engineer, doesn't do research, as in any academic research into anything. As far as I can tell, he's only got a couple papers, if that, and it's basically just him ranting about his ideas. You, sir, are the epitome of somebody who desperately wants to be somebody who's considered a scientist who's not. Objectively, you're not a scientist. Not even close, buddy. Not even close. So, let's go back to this because there's a good point that he brings up here. This is not going to just be all [ __ ] on Eric Weinstein. He deserves all of this, by the way. None of this is unfair to him. He didn't come prepared for this. He doesn't really actually present any physics arguments for why any of this is not plausible. His main argument is essentially this is boring and I don't like this and I think this is all pseudocience. And if you ask him any details, he just starts telling stories about the 1970s. It's like dude, why don't you explain to me why it's not real? And the reason why is because he can't. And this is the same reason why the physicists don't debate me. They know they're wrong. They know they're wrong. You know how all the debunkers try to say Ashen knows he's lying about MH370? The physicists know they're wrong and they know they'll get destroyed in the debate. They know that wormholes are mathematical solution to general relativity. How do you how do you argue against that? If I say, "Hey, wormholes are a mathematical solution to general relativity." What can they say? General relativity is fake. Math doesn't work. There's no counterargument. The debate's over right then and there. I don't see them. So therefore, I don't believe. Okay. Well, you don't see gravity either, but it's still there. You feel it. Uh, let's skip ahead here. >> 120. >> Okay. Where's the thing about coordinate system? I was trying to find it. >> That's very interesting. So, like a little detective search. >> I mean, my point is is that this is the bottleneck and in the current vogue of saying, you know, the lone genius theory is wrong. um then that that wouldn't work. But the lone genius theory is clearly right. I mean it's just obviously right. It's a it's a scop to say it isn't. So my my claim is I know a great deal of those people like personally. Okay. >> I see no indication >> whatever this place >> that they know about any such program >> and the only exception I can find is that there's one black hole that you go into and you don't come out of called Renaissance Technologies that hires in these exact specialties. >> And this is what I'm talking about. Eric Weinstein just makes [ __ ] up. He just literally makes [ __ ] up all the time. So, here's Eric Weinstein again pretending, making information up that he doesn't have, objectively doesn't have, and he's saying, "I know all the top people." This is literally what he's saying in I skip past. He's going, "I know all the top people, and if they really knew about this physics, I would be getting told about it." That's what Eric Wein is saying. He's going, "But you know what? There is one black hole that I even I don't know about called Renaissance Technologies. Dude, shut the [ __ ] up and stop making [ __ ] up. You're not in the know. No one's going to break national security to tell Eric Weinstein how physics works. No, you're not that important, buddy. Not even remotely close to that important. So, he just makes some [ __ ] up here and says, "Oh, well, it's not possible they could be hiding all this except for in this one secret thing that I'm making up right now that nobody's ever heard about. Can you go ahead and clip this?" It's got a level of profitability that doesn't really make sense based on what I know about markets. >> And it's got a secure campus. It's right next to Brook Haven National Laboratory. And it has the resources of Sunni Stonybrook. And Sunni Stonybrook has a math and a physics presence that is far above its rating as a state university of New York campus even as a even as a flagship. >> I wasn't aware of that. That's a >> Okay. So at a bare minimum, bare minimum, >> we would say GR and the standard model, but I already know that even at the bare minimum, that's probably not even touching the truth, >> right? I think what's happening is I think the UAP craft are manipulating the uh the information domain because I think that there's >> Oh, I think that was it. Hold on. Let's go back >> in Long Island. Correct. >> Correct. How do I >> I mean, I think most people didn't realize, >> dude, my thing's all messed up. What is going on here? >> Okay, so at a bare minimum, bare minimum, it we would say GR and the standard model, but I already know that even at the bare minimum, that's probably not even touching the truth. >> Okay, I >> Right. I think what's happening is is I think the UAP craft are manipulating the uh the information domain because I think that there's a subquantum domain of information. Uh people talk about Shannon I'm talking about Fiser information that Roy Freeden at the University of Arizona uh did a lot of research for 25 years on published two books through Cambridge University Press on Fisher information was able to use that to derive all of the major theories and principles of physics including the Wheeler Dwit equation from that being observed and the observer. So, it's all based on the observer, which is quite a quantum pro uh quantum statement. So, it's I don't I'd have to dig it up out of my phone to be able to read to you. >> So, I'm probably just going to give you the context here. There's somewhere else in here that's a clip where Eric Weinstein says that general relativity can explain wormholes, but it can explain where wormholes go. This is actually a good point. Good point for Eric Weinstein. You are right. General relativity just tells us we can bend spacetime if we have enough mass which could lead to a black hole or wormhole etc. But it doesn't tell us how we go from one point over here to another point over here. People were asking saying Ashton will you address this in your live stream tonight? Yes. Here you go. that does require some additional I don't know if it would require new physics but it requires a different type of physics that's where ER equals EPR comes into play wormhole only tells us that we can make a bridge that's all just tells us about the geometry of our spaceime what it doesn't tell us is how do we actually teleport from one spot to the other how do we actually engineer that this is what the ma H370 videos tell us. Now, they don't show us where the plane is going, but we do get clues about how the process works. The orbs spin around the plane perfectly vertical as the plane flies, just like this. And right before they teleport, and what this would indicate is they're directing where they're teleporting the plane to. If that the orientation did not matter, the orbs could just spin on any axis around the plane and they could just teleport away and reappear wherever they want. But it may use a coordinate system. And this would require an extra dimension. Why? Adaptive optics. We have to know the reference point between two locations. And the problem is when we look from here to really far away, there's atmosphere in the way. Light gets blurred. So the question you' say is, Ashton, if I want to shoot a laser beam to teleport something from over here to over here, the problem is I can't see because all this air is blurring my signal, especially over a really, really long distance. Adaptive optics. adaptive optics we use to remove the distortion of the atmosphere. How do we do that? We use a laser. What they do, they shoot a laser beam down at the ground, for example, or up in the sky, depending on if your telescope's looking up or down. And what we do is we can tell the blurriness of that laser and reverse engineer the blurriness away. You say, Ashton, what? Yeah, that's exactly how it works. They literally use a laser and they go, "Oh, that's how much blurriness there is." And then they just correct for that in the image. Boom. Solves the problem. So what this means is there must be some kind of universal coordinate system where you can tell that this location is this related to this location. And the only way in my mind that's possible, there must be objects in both locations like orbs spinning around. Now I don't know what those objects are. Maybe the anchor doesn't need to be three orbs. Maybe it's just one orb like Ash and four orbs. But the secret that we were able to reverse engineer from the MH370 videos is teleportation requires an anchor. It requires the orbs in one location and the orbs in another. It's a warp gate. So if you do connect it to science fiction, the type of teleportation we are seeing is akin to a warp gate except for the warp gate's not stationary. The warp gate is three orbs spinning around your plane. Now lastly, and I don't know the exact physical mechanism, but I have speculated that it is a form of quantum tunneling. What this would mean is it's functionally equivalent to the double slit experiment. When we shoot our electrons through our slits, we get an interference pattern that tells us we don't know where the electron is. That's like the same thing they're doing with the plane. For a brief second, we don't know where the plane is. It's now a waveform that can be in multiple locations. And then we do a measurement and this causes the plane all those other locations to collapse down onto the one true location where the plane now exists. This seems insane. This seems impossible. However, this is real quantum mechanics at the macroscopic level. And the reason why no one will debate is because they know it's real quantum mechanics. They know these are real physical phenomenon. They've been experimentally proven. We just haven't scaled it up publicly yet. So, that is your answer for the coordinate system. Now, I'll take it one step further. And I believe what's really happening is they're basically doing a uh four-wave mixing. Look this up. Look up nonlinear four-wave mixing. What you do is you can cause three waves or multiple waves to combine in a medium and then they will shoot a new wave in a direction that you want them to go in a completely different direction. So you can imagine your three orbs spinning around your plane causing a new wave backwards causing the plane to get sucked backwards. So when it appears out the other way it's just flying over here again. That's the answer for what they're doing to the plane. Ash and Forbes BTW is not suicidal. I just want to make sure you know that. [snorts] So, Fisher information. I totally got sidetracked when he mentions Fisher information. This was crazy because I just played this clip of Eric Davis talking about Fisher information. In fact, I think I have it. I'll just play it. That way I don't have to talk. Um, Eric Davis. Wait, what did I call it? [ __ ] I don't even know what I called it, chat. Uh, okay. Well, I have to go find it actually. So, Fisher information is this idea that everything is just information. That if you really boil it down, everything is just information. And this goes to the holographic principle. This idea that if you were to store all the information about the black hole, you could store all of it on the boundary condition on the the edge of the black hole. the the volume the information increases by the surface area not by the volume. And this is very weird. You would think if I have a ball of stuff, the amount of information should be the total volume of the ball, everything on the inside. But the amount of stuff is just the surface. That's it. Almost like there's nothing on the inside at all. And this would imply that our reality may be more akin to a simulation, more akin to a video game where now things that we see in a video game become possible because everything we think of as real is just information. So if this is just information over here, this information can be moved from over here to over here even though it seems like it's a physical thing. Okay, let's finish this up. Keep going. There's a few more clips I want to do. from which physics drives. New scientist did an article on it which was just brilliant. It was in the I'm not following late60s but late 90s sorry. >> So look right now >> it's like this is so he's like he can't even follow a simple line of thought here. There was someone talking about this IQ thing where like if you're 30 points above somebody else they can't even follow what you're trying to say. Eric Davis is trying to say that we need other ideas to figure out how teleportation is going to be engineered. General relativity just tells us we can make a wormhole. General relativity tells us wormholes are possible. General relativity doesn't tell us how you make a coordinate system to teleport an object from one location to the next. And this is what Eric Davis is trying to get to. He's like going, "Hey, ER equals EPR. Quantum entanglement might tell us some secrets here." and and Eric Weinstein's going, I can't follow this. This doesn't make any sense to me. >> There's a vogue if physics doesn't work, we can talk about quantum information and information theory because computers have money and so it's a way for us to try to get money from people who know computers by making physics >> like information is the is the basic layer of the world. So I I've watched that push for a change of variables just like let's make black holes the new harmonic oscillator that the test object that we push everything onto. [sighs and gasps] I really don't find that highly compelling. We we basically have quirks, lepttons, force particles, Higs. >> We have this arena called spacetime. It's all a model. The model is extremely good. But we don't live there. We don't live in spaceime. >> No, I know that. Okay. >> It's not lines curve. >> Bro, that's the easiest push back ever. We don't live there. That's just a model. No, quantum entanglement is very real and we absolutely live in the reality in which quantum entanglement is happening. By the way, perfect pause right here. Perfect pause. How is he not pushing back on this simple thing? This is almost like Eric Weinstein just throwing the layup up on here. Yes, we do. I think Eric Weinstein might be living in a completely different reality than the rest of us guys. >> Earth points and manifolds. It's a physical space. >> No, but it may be a manifold. I'm not saying that it isn't. I'm saying that you know because of the defects in in these theories that you're looking at an effective theory and you're trying to figure out what the parent theory is. Correct. You have any guesses about that? >> That's goes back to some ruminations I've had based on quantum entanglement quantum uh uh entanglement networks. People in quantum magazine had talked about the work they were doing on quantum entanglements and tensor networks where they were able to show in a model how the big bang is actually a unfolding or an emerging of spaceime and elementary particles and the interaction forces from entanglement networks and I just don't know how long that has has how far that has gotten as >> so good question here he actually asks hey do you have any ideas on what the bigger physics is that's being withheld and you can tell Eric Davis knows the answer. He pauses for a second. You can tell he caught a little bit off guard. And then he goes, "Oh, well, some people have said maybe it's connected to quantum entanglement, quantum entanglement networks. Maybe the big bang is one giant net of quantum entangled particles that have been separated apart." That's actually a pretty good idea. I like that. A theoretical development, but I know that the initial stage of work that was done in the mid2010s was pretty promising. I just haven't heard haven't found any publications to show or inform me on where they've gotten with it. >> Let's talk about getting a craft across interstellar distances. >> You've got some kind of and I I want to be clear that I think propulsion may even be misleading, but there's something like is there [clears throat] is there a method of conveyance? Let's let's call it conveyance. >> Second of all, there's an energy requirement. Of course. And what I'm looking at, I hate to interrupt you, but what I'm looking at is something that bypasses GR because GR is difficult to use. >> Let's talk Let's talk about that one. >> Get around that whole energy requirement that shuts down the ability to engineer and build wormholes or warp drives. We we've got to come up with that whole you're grooved towards this toolkit that's pushed in front of us, right? Like >> entanglement is a real thing, >> but we talk about it in my opinion sometimes too much. I think another thing like that is black holes wormholes again real things but at some level we don't know whether the black hole in the sky and the black hole in the model are the same black hole. >> Yeah. >> And what we talk about entanglement too much and also we talk about black holes and wormholes too much. This is just straight up anti-science garbage at this point. It's just straight up anti-science. I don't know how else to put it. If you think we talk about entanglement too much and it's not relevant or not important, please do not ever study physics, please don't join the physics community. Please do not get involved whatsoever. We do not want you. We do not need people who are like, this is basically the anti-science Amish version of a physics person. Not interested in superc conductivity. Not interested in wormholes or black holes. Not interested in quantum entanglement. Bro, you're not interested in physics. Go do something else. Go get involved with something else. If you hate physics this much, like this is actually crazy. I've never seen a more ignorant person talking about physics in my whole life. This is one of the most embarrassing discussions I've ever seen. And I I don't know how Eric Wines is not embarrassed by this. I would be. Terrible showing on his part. And Eric Davis should be embarrassed, too, because I don't know why he's coming there if he's just not going to answer questions. If he's just going to like acquies to every single thing that Eric Weinstein says, it's just a waste of time. Then all of these Oops. Things that we can do lead nowhere, right? We've been around the traffic circle a million times. >> Oh, dude. Sorry. Sorry. What? And and in case he wasn't [ __ ] enough, he has to dial the retardation up to 20 here. All of these things lead nowhere. How stupid are you? You think quantum entanglement leads nowhere? Have you heard of quantum computers? Have you heard of AI? You think superconductivity or I you didn't say superc conductivity here. I'm including that. You think wormholes lead nowhere? Would you think the Manhattan project was a waste of time? Do you think the fusion bomb was a waste of time, too? All these things just didn't lead anywhere. How about fusion propulsion? Is fusion also a waste of time? Some people literally I think they live in a reality in which we are at the pinnacle of all creation and nothing else will ever be created. Eric Weinstein's probably going to die thinking that he was the smartest man on earth and that we had solved everything and he will be thought of as a simpleton as a as a egoomaniac idiot who couldn't even figure out the simplest conspiracy even when all the puzzle pieces were laid out in front of him. That's the most generous generous opinion I can give Eric Weinstein at this points. And by the third time you've seen the same 7-Eleven, you're starting to think something's wrong. Let's talk about GR as a problem. So in the standard equation in GR, >> this is the kind of [ __ ] I just, bro, I can't even do this. Let's talk about GR as a problem. This is protottypical midwit nonsensical garbage, right? Can we talk about actual physics ideas? No. We have to talk about GR as a problem. We have to we have to have uh nebulous non-specific discussions about things that we not can't really nail down or define. We can't actually get into the physics of warp drives or wormholes. You just don't like them. So, we're not going to talk about them. And instead, we're going to talk about how much you hate general relativity. It's pretty clear at this point based on his disdain for general relativity, wormholes, warp drives, black holes, that Eric Weinstein just doesn't like general relativity. That's the real problem here. Obviously, he doesn't like general relativity. Bad news for him. General relativity is going to win out in the end. Okay. >> Really three terms. We've got the Einstein curvature term. The metric is constant in its own. >> He still has that was five minute skip and he's still talking. By the way, chat, >> you have lovelocks theorem and you lose the constancy of dark energy. You're starting to actually put general relativity in some peril. That's very interesting. I hadn't thought about that. Okay. Depends how you can >> How many times does Eric Davis just go that's very interesting. I haven't thought about that during this interview. I swear Eric David Eric Weinstein or Davis only talks for like 10 minutes total during this interview. >> Steve of general relativity. But to continue with this I don't believe that you can engineer these craft within general relativity or standard model in any way other than formally. So the alcobiier warp drive is a formal solution to the problem because it it leaves unressed how the weakest possible of all forces gravity could be employed at this completely different level to to you know >> okay let me address that literally the most simple [ __ ] ever. How can a weak force become a very small a strong force? Well, it turns out number one, when you're in the vastness of outer space, even a very, very, very tiny amount of acceleration adds up over time. Number one. Number two, if you are riding on a wave, if you are biasing your wave, you only need a tiny tiny tiny bias. You don't need a big bias. any like I said before any amount of acceleration it's going to take you it's going to take you away it's going to add up especially over those long distances so this idea that we have to throw away general relativity there's no way to engineer these ideas no the warp drive the warp drive paper lays it out perfectly negative pressure in the front positive pressure in the back and you're going to get acceleration the only the reason Why these people can't wrap their brains around it, like literally cannot conceptualize it, it's because they think space is an empty vacuum. The moment you realize space is filled with energy, you realize that potential that we're going to create, that bias is a bias in spaceime. Reduce the potential here a little bit, increase the potential here. And you say, "How do you do that, Ashton?" Well, there's this thing called zero point energy. Ever hear of it? Also, just normal energy will do as well. But we can do this with normal energy also. That's it. It's really not complicated. And it's upsetting that Eric Davis doesn't push back yet again because these are things that I know Eric Davis knows the answer to. No question. If I know the answer to them, Eric Davis knows the answer to them. He's just not he's not interested in doing a debate. >> Sandwich FaceTime on top of itself. >> I don't think the generationships make any sense. 800 years. >> Oh, I agree with you. >> Okay. I don't believe that. um >> in other words, we're going to accept the science that we have as if we can't do better science and then we're going to come up with completely implausible ways of using it and we're going to say those are the leading candidates. Dr. Davis, you should push back if you think traversible wormholes that biological material can go through is a is a real feasible thing. Jesse actually Jesse actually had to step up here because Weinstein is just stomping all over Eric Davis saying that his papers make no sense saying that the wormholes aren't real. You can't do any of this stuff. And Eric Davis is just nodding along and Jesse has to finally come like, "Hey, Eric, you have to push back, man." Like, if you think people can go through wormholes, Eric Weinstein's telling you that's [ __ ] right now. So now's the time to push back. This is what I'm saying. You need to have a moderator debating this because you're just letting Eric Weinstein go on these rants and Eric Davis just nodding along and there should we know these people don't agree on everything. So, we should be actually getting to the physics of why it's not possible. Just saying you don't like it, just saying it's not possible because you don't think it's real is not evidence. That's not a debate. You show me a paper why wormholes aren't possible. I've got the wormhole. I've got a dozen scientific papers that show humanly traversible wormos are possible and the math adds up. You show me one that says they're not. Let's talk. Let's debate like that. That didn't happen at all during this, by the way. So, anyway, here we go. >> You mean biological materials going through a wormhole? >> Yeah. >> I don't see anything that prevents it. >> Okay. >> So, you're going to create a wormhole on demand. You can see how pissed off Eric Weinstein is at that because there you go. Jesse has to step in and finally Eric Davis goes, "Yeah, I don't see anything that prevents people from going through a wormhole." That's as far as this NDA will let him go. There's nothing in general relativity that denies. And now Eric Weinstein hates that because he just said they're all fake and not real. He goes, "You're going to make a wormhole on demand? You're going to make a wor You really think you can make a wormhole on demand? Look at the Look at the contempt in this guy's face. Unreal >> to get where you need to go. >> Yes. You know what? I'll step in. Yes. We're going to make a wormhole on demand to get where we need to go. Exactly. That's what we're going to do. Wow. You hit the nail on the head. You want to debate it anytime you want, Eric Weinstein. Any show you want, I will be there. >> You should be able to. That's what my research showed. There's nothing that I would think that could stop you other than that G over C to the fourth power issue. You >> There you go. This is as close as we get during the whole debate to Eric Davis telling the truth. He's going, there is literally nothing in generality stopping you. Now, this is the part where Eric Weinstein, if he had a counterargument, this is the part where you should jump in and say, "This is what's preventing you. There isn't anything. There literally is not anything. Eric Weinstein is just wrong." Simple as that. >> You that really gets inverted when you put it over to the curvature side of the equation. Then the properties of the matter, it's going to be C to the 4th over G. So, it's going to be a gigantic number multiplying the curvature of spaceime that that matter source creates. So, walk me through how do I get to Alpha Centuri by engineering a traversible wormhole? >> Well, you're going to create the mouth or the throat. Well, it that's a good point because even Kip Thorne couldn't describe it, but the best idea is, and this is Thorn's idea not mind, and I don't endorse it. Uh, you create a mouth right at your departure point in space. Uh, and you're going to need another spaceship to carry the throat to the destination point. And >> you're going to need another spaceship to carry the throat to the destination point. Does that sound familiar to anybody out there? You know what that is? Not not exactly. Quite literally the exact thing that John Kramer said. Here it is. Ready for this? What did he say? You need another spaceship to carry the throat to your destination. Here you go. Listen. I'm I'm talking about uh reaching the stars by by accelerating a wormhole to a high very high velocities and shooting them at the stars and using relativistic time dilation to get there almost instantaneously. >> So you fly through the wormhole, >> you send the send the wormhole there, send momentum bearing particles through it to steer it uh around where you want it. You land it and then you expand it and get out and and explore the planet. >> I see. [laughter] Anywhere you want, anytime you want, any podcast you want. I am going to make mince meat out of Eric Weinstein. Are you kidding me? I got the clips ready to go. You ever hear of John Kramer, professor emeritus at University of Washington? Ever hear of him? H you want to know the answer to how they teleport something? Well, you just heard Eric Davis say it and now you just heard John Kramer say, "Oh." Oh, did you know John Kramer and Eric Davis worked together on the breakthrough NASA physics propulsion program? Why is astronaut on the podcast doing the debate? And that's what Kip Thorne came with came up with. I'm thinking when you're creating the throat, that's where all the physics occurs anyway. It's not at the mouth, the exit entrance mouth. It's in the throat. So when you're creating that throat that should automatically do the the connection the hyperspace tunnel connection between two points two distant points earth and Sirius or our star soul and Sirius as examples or earth and alpha centtory one of the planets over there. Um I just know that it does not give you recipe for navigating for being able to target your destination. There are no control navigational control laws built into general activity. All you could do is build the wormhole and you know you could do the studies of a geodessic that goes through it representing either a photon or a piece of matter and you can represent that you know it's going to come out the other side. But how you aim it and navigate to another star using it that's not in generality. You can't pull that out. You can't pull that information out unless there's more work that needs to be done that nobody has thought of doing. >> So again >> but I think you can make a wormhole on demand if assuming you have the negative energy density available to shape it. Oh, not one of these proposals excites me. I tried, chat. I tried [snorts] as hard as I possibly could to not crash out. I tried. I did my best. Not one of these proposals excites you. The idea of flying through a wormhole to Alpha Centauri at instantaneous transmission speeds doesn't excite you, Eric Weinstein. Holy [ __ ] What does excite this man? Do we have to get you onto Epstein Island with all the Lolita? Is that going to excite you? I seriously cannot understand how anybody who claims to be a physicist or interested in physics can have absolutely no interest in literally taking the laws of physics to their absolute extreme. I'm going to let you I'm going to let you finish. They're boring as sin. I'm sorry to say you're talking about people raised on >> boring as sin. This honestly I'm trying to come up with an analogy for this. This is like when you were in middle school when the kid that gets left out of the like you're going to play with all your friends and that gross smelly kid that wants to hang out with you, you all reject him and you're like, dude, take a shower. Take a shower, bro. And he's going, I didn't want to play with you anyway. Those games are all stupid. I didn't want to play with you anyway. I'm gonna go play Connect Four by myself. That's basically how I feel about what Eric Weinstein's doing right here. He's not interested in this because he wasn't invited to the club because his opinions weren't weren't involved because he didn't get the call to be joined in in the party. And so now he's taking his ball and he's going home. This is all boring. I don't want to do any of this. Oh yeah, you don't want to work on cutting edge physics on literally revolutionary technology that will change the whole world. Well, that's why you weren't invited. That's why you weren't invited, bro. >> Sci-fi who want to be scientific. And by wanting to be scientific, they don't want to go beyond the two frontier theories that we have. And they've also said, I don't want to be uncreative. So, the idea is how do we come up with a wildly implausible story based on stuff that is solid? And at least with some of the other crazy stuff, I have a feeling at least they're trying to do new physics so that the implausibility goes down, but the speculative nature of the physics goes up. I think it would be much better to balance those two. Can we talk about one of these weird things? Have you looked at this extended electronamics that no one in my world has ever heard of? [ __ ] chat. Okay. Extended electronamics. This is basically Hal Pudof's baby. Extended electronamics. Taking Maxwell's equations, connecting them to general relativity, and combining electromagnetism and gravity together. Extended electronamics. Eric Davis knows all about it. All about it. Dude's probably read every scientific paper there is about it. Let's see how he responds. >> I've seen elements of it. I've seen a a paper here and there on on extended electronamics. >> I've seen bits of it. I've seen a paper here and there on extended electron. Buddy, buddy, your boss is like one of the biggest proponents of it. What do you mean you've seen you've seen a study here or there about it? What are we doing here, man? You're the worst liar ever. What do you see that as being? >> I don't know what they're trying to get out with it. That's my conclusion. >> I don't know what they're trying to get out of it. Um, scalar physics, uh, extra dimension, directed energy weapons, teleporting things, the ether, uh, unifying, uh, general relativity and quantum mechanics. How about unifying electromagnetism and gravity? You don't know what they're trying to get out of it. How is that a serious respon? You worked on it. You worked on it. This is where I stopped taking the interview seriously. This is where there's just no way. Dude, even again, even Jesse Michaels is listening here and even Jesse Michaels is at this point going, "Dude, what are you talking about?" Ready? >> I don't know what they're trying to extend where it's going. >> A little context for the audience. This is um a term that gets thrown around constantly in UFO discussions. You have even going back to the 90s Ben Rich saying there was some math in Maxwell's equations that was a little off. You know that sort of thing is this recurring sort of theme. >> Yes. Yes. How is there not better discussion over this? Cuz I'm I'm chat we're two hours into this live stream. I should have ended it 30 minutes ago. I've got the glasses on and we are just losing it here. And then you have people now saying that it's a more faithful adherence to the you know more expanded Maxwell equations versus the heavy side kind of simplification of vector calculus that is extended electronamics. Other people say heavy side is the update that makes the extended electronamics. uh no one seems to come up with some sort of lagrange and you've pointed out some real inconsistencies uh with the you know gauge invariance and but I believe Hal Putoff who you have a long work history with and you know as a long colleague he has some interesting work in extended electronics right >> never worked on it I don't know that Hal has uh the only extended electronamics >> it's your boss dude you've been working for him for 30 years 30 years you worked for him you don't know about it bro chat That's all I can do. That's all I can do. I don't want to get my like my cortisol is already spiked, already spiked, already triggered. It's like how pudas saying he doesn't know what zero point energy means. Ah, zero point energy. Yeah, some people talked about zero point energy. Like, dude, all your papers are about it. What are you talking about? You don't have any ideas of what it's all about? How many dissertations have you written in the form of derds about this content? So, as you guys can see there, this is the reason why I was disappointed in the interview. Eric Davis seems to be gatekeeping or playing dumb or I don't know exactly what he's doing, but not really being forthcoming. He's kind of letting Weinstein run all over him, run rough shot over him because he seems like he's happy with the stuff to be like debunked or whatever, and he doesn't seem to care. My advice would be for the next interview, get somebody that's passionate about it. Get somebody that actually cares. Somebody that actually wants to argue. First point of a debate is both sides should actually want to argue the points. If you're not interested in arguing the points, there's no point having a debate. And second thing, let's just get some better moderation in there. Keep the questions going. Honestly, have some pre-anned questions already ready to go so that we can just be shooting them off so we don't get stuck into story time all the time because I feel like you could distill all of that down to like 10 minutes. You could distill that whole conversation down to 10 minutes and you could have got all that content we wanted without all the ego and the narcissism and like intentionally not understanding anything. And then lastly, anytime you guys want Ash and Forbes is ready. I already tell you guys exactly what my arguments mean. If it was me, we would have been talking about the big bang dark energy because the moment you start coming at me with, well, you're using general relativity or general relativity is the best we've got, then I'm going to ask you to fill in the gaps. What's gravity? Hell, what's electricity? Why did the big bang happen? Like, these are the questions that they don't require PhDs. They don't require years of study. They just require a conceptual understanding of the universe. So the kind of debate I want to have is one where everybody can understand the physics concepts that are being discussed, not one where people are just talking over each other trying to talk about who's the most who's got more prestige than the other. Anyway, let's go to the super chats, guys. Thank you very much everybody in the Rumble chat. You guys have been popping off. Not Yoda Double Beriferous. Seen you uh in a in a while, man. Uh and Herbal Green, appreciate you guys. Let's go to uh the pillch chat. What do you guys got in the pill chat going on here tonight? I see John Glock hanging out. We did not miss a Friday show. I did not do the Friday show because I did the Saturday show with Paramount Tactical talking about the missing general. And I will reiterate if that missing general is that TMBBS time ships guy. Oh boy, we just found something crazy. But let's just keep our expectations down and let's keep uh prayers out for the general no matter what. I I hope they find the general. Anybody who's a patriotic American should hope they find the general safe. John Glock, thank you very much. I appreciate you, man. And yeah, he probably knew that physicist name as well. John Glock asked, "Do you think Eric W. Davis did this interview with knowing it would be fruitless? C disclosure." Yeah, I think Eric Davis just did the interview. Maybe he even got paid to do it. I don't know. But I think he just did it because he wanted to. But I don't think his intent was to get disclosure for the people. Eric Davis has an NDA. So, and he said he can't say all that he knows unless Trump were to pardon him or, you know, void his NDA or what have you. So, we have to keep that in mind. And other people are point out this was not a debate. This was a hm yes sir, I never thought of that. Yeah, it was pretty sad. So, not what we expected, but at the end of the day, it was still better than nothing. Let's be honest, chat, it was better than nothing. We've basically been getting a lot of garbage in terms of content, so at least we had some physics debates, but I would add a lot better questions. Drizzle Drizz 200011 gifts add $10. Don't know. Thank you very much, sir. XLX Squee, I heard something about this. Glad I passed on it. Yeah, it's just it's too boring. Like, we went through that was four hours and you guys only watched like 45 minutes of it just now. That's four hours. Now, the discussion goes from that into like aliens and the cover up stuff, and I just don't care about that stuff. If you're interested in that, you can check it out. Like, if you care about Roswell and that type of stuff, I do suggest checking it out. And then at the end, there's like another hour and 20 minutes with just a sit down with Eric Weinstein, which I I'll just admit I didn't watch it. The portals behind his hairline, bro. Blue plasma balls. Dr. agreeer told redacted this is our tech but he's afraid disclosure will be disinformation about aliens demons and dimensional BS he said we for one shot for real disclosure I agree I don't think we just have one shot at it I do think that they will use this to blame any of those people down here right it seems like they set this up so that when the the plasma balls come down the fusion reactors come down people are going to think it's aliens we'll see how it plays out but I think that there's There's enough people that are woken up now that people most people are going to not be fooled by something if they were to try something that simple. We'll see. Astrology for mystics with Jen. Missing general. Did he talk too much or is he being used? If he's being used then by who? I have mapped him. Space Force Hill Air Force Base and Diego Garcia are hits. His wife's reaction is the weirdest part. She also was in the Air Force. She tried to be an astronaut. I found her bio and the fact that she's not more motivated to like figure out where he is is just bizarre to me. So, I'm now actually leaning more towards like we picked him up. I don't see how like a foreign government is going to operate in the United States and pick up our own guys. It's not impossible, but just seems unlikely. Seems more likely our people would have picked him up. dark horse. But honestly, most likely opinion for me right now is that that guy or someone like him on Twitter is the general and the general was leaking information to the public and they found out and they got pissed off and they disappeared him and maybe he'll come back and maybe he won't. Probably depends on his answer to some questions. I hope I'm wrong. Bartt Welding, did the general write the letter to Ashton? Wow. You know, I never thought of that. I don't think so. But now that you say that, that's interesting, right? You still in the game, but the years are starting to catch up to me. That's one of the first things they say is that I won't say anything. I I've memorized this whole thing. I won't say anything more about myself other than I have or have worked at a military base in the Maldes. Been in the game a long time. still in the game. Something like that. He says seemed like it would be someone that has been in the in like the military for 30 plus years and they would have to be technical enough and knowledgeable enough to do something like the the letter to Ash and Forbes, which is pretty extensive. That's an interesting thought. Let's not go too crazy with it. Let's wait a few more days and see if that guy posts on Twitter. And if he doesn't, then let's start going crazy with it. If this guy doesn't post on Twitter by like Friday chat, we're going full Alex Jones. We're gonna just go ahead and start saying that's the guy and start getting attention on it because like I said before, we should be able to confirm if that's his Twitter account. That's a possible thing we can actually confirm. XLX Squee says, "No, GR is correct. We just have to look at it differently. That's why he took his UHT EPR plus Yuon slaps. I took a look at it. Yeah, it's pretty good. And I like the yuan theory is that, you know, people are now thinking outside the box. They're saying, "Oh, ER equals EPR. They're looking at the universe through another lens." And Eric Weinstein does make another good point and says, "We want to simplify things. Everything in physics has gotten so complicated." This is why I think about yuan theory a lot is that yuon theory actually simplifies things. It says, let's not add more and more particles and things. Let's make less particles. Let's say everything is just a dipole moment, a positive and minus charge. That simplifies everything. Leslie Williams, Leslie Wisdom says, "Ashen, thank you for that huge dono." Ashen says it like it is. Eric says what he thinks sounds smart. Yeah, it feels like he's trying to chase the clips a little bit in some of the stuff he does. Also, it feels like he kind of doesn't know what to say in some cases, so he just says random stuff to sound smart. Naria can, I don't know how to say your name, but thank you very much for that. Don't know. Uh, Eric Weinstein realized only the UFO community might listen to his geometric unity theory. Yeah, I don't think the physicist people were taking the geometric unity thing too seriously. And it kind of shows Eric how you can be gatekeeped from your own situation as well. And and yet he has no sympathy for anyone else as far as I can tell. Your monologues are hilarious. My channel says, "Thank you very much. my channel. I appreciate you. Carrie, Ethernet subscriber, and I hope the other uh Ethernet subscribe is doing well. Weinstein owns Tokamax stock. Probably pro. I don't think Weinstein even believes in Fusion at all, chat. I don't think he believes in Fusion at all. It would be my guess. Thank you for that dono. Walkman do Walkman Doo says, "Can we crowdfund a Weinstein Forbes live stream debate for the veterans?" Let's go. Yeah. I wonder if some of these people charge for their appearances. I never charge for a single appearance that I ever did. I did a lot, but I'm also not, you know, I don't as much clout as someone like Eric Weinstein does. Dominic, nice to see you, Dominic. One of my favorite followers. Eric Davis is slated to be at Contact in the Desert. I saw that. I did see that. No, I'm probably not coming this year. Uh, no contact in the desert for me this year. I'm actually probably not doing any conferences this year. I'm kind of over the conference thing, guys. It was okay, but it's a nice little vacay. Um, but it wasn't that it wasn't that exciting for me. So, don't come to those conferences if you were expecting to stalk me or whatever. You know, I don't I'm not against the stalking. You want to stalk somebody, I get it. I'm cool. Whatever. But I won't be at those. So, you got to stalk me somewhere else, guys. Okay. MH370X, thank you for the amazing show tonight. Thank you for being in the chat. I appreciate you guys. Have a great night. We'll be back on Wednesday. We'll be talking more science, more physics, and hopefully we'll have found a missing general by then. Have a great night, everybody. Peace out. Later. [music] Out in the [music] fields where the skies are wide. Talking about a journey through the cosmic ride. Einstein [music] and Thorn, they set the stage for a trip through time across the space age. Wormholes connect distant points in space. Traversible paths to a far off place. No black holes [music] pull, no crushing weight, just a cosmic tunnel to a distant gate. 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